OK guys, I have a pretty impressive bass scene that is low, deep, long and pulsating. The crazy thing is that I found this scene on a streamed foreign film on Netflix. It is a 2010 Bollywood movie that is one of Netflix's newer titles that is in HD and Dolby 5.1.

The name of the movie: Raajneeti

Time: 2 hrs 14 min

Scene: Car blows up. Bass starts after explosion, is probably around 25 Hz, and lasts for almost 5 seconds.

Interesting, I've yet to hear anything resembling base from streaming. I'll check that one out. Hey, I'm from Nawlins too! :cool:

Awesome Tony!! Who Dat!! I was living in Algiers when I moved a few years ago. Ben Franklin high school, UNO, and Xavier for pharmacy.

Yeah, if your internet is fast enough (at least a solid 6mbs) Dolby 5.1 comes through. The dubbing of the movie is not comparable to Hollywood movies; however, the scene caught me off guard and really moved some air.

Sorry for the mini reunion here guys. :o I was a westbanker. Shaw, LSU. Had a good friend at BF in the mid 80's.

I do have 6meg service and get the 5.1, but it never seems the LFE is up to par. I don't really expect it to be BR quality though.

OK guys, I have a pretty impressive bass scene that is low, deep, long and pulsating. The crazy thing is that I found this scene on a streamed foreign film on Netflix. It is a 2010 Bollywood movie that is one of Netflix's newer titles that is in HD and Dolby 5.1.

The name of the movie: Raajneeti

Time: 2 hrs 14 min

Scene: Car blows up. Bass starts after explosion, is probably around 25 Hz, and lasts for almost 5 seconds.

I have a good connection and watched that part not at all impressed. By the way I have an epik conquest.

Cool, it had my dual Epik Sentinels pumping. Sorry to waste your time.

Today I'm going to watch my son's BD copy of "cats and dogs the revenge of kitty galore" in our home theater. I know it's barely watchable, but I have a feeling about the potential LFE on this one after being forced to watch it in the living room (no subs).

TRON = VERY bass HEAVY...may be one of the best bass movies I have heard...and its frequent, heavy stuff and chest hitting stuff...kinda felt like i was on a wooden rollercaoster...see this, crazy bass stuff, I swear they had those bass scenes running hot.

Those ships taking off...thought my room was going to fall apart...also some excellent chest hitting stuff, which is my favorite bass feeling!

TRON = VERY bass HEAVY...may be one of the best bass movies I have heard.

Those ships taking off...thought my room was going to fall apart...also some excellent chest hitting stuff, which is my favorite bass feeling!

I will be watching this tomorrow. My conquest will be put to the test. =)

Tron is excellent, my new demo movie. People with mediocre surrounds will blow them up at reference levels.

In today's headlines: The LFE Drought Is OVER!!!

T-R-O-N L-E-G-A-C-Y !!!

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Too many great sonic scenes to graph and LFE to 3 Hz. Hafta watch it again. :D:cool::eek:

Strap in, boys... this one ain't playin'

Bosso

TRON does rock how do I know got to watch the first 10 minutes before I had to shut it down due to the evil eye! :D Its all good though will be watching it this weekend by myself.

watched the first 10 min as well last night. the wife felt the floor shake upstairs from the empire. Need to watch this alone.

I watched twice in a row!! The bass is just incredible with a great score backing it up. The mains and bass were in unison, one of my favorite overall sound movie. Again, the surrounds were very dynamic as well, no more any surrounds will do if you watch at reference.

I watched twice in a row!! The bass is just incredible with a great score backing it up. The mains and bass were in unison, one of my favorite overall sound movie. Again, the surrounds were very dynamic as well, no more any surrounds will do if you watch at reference.

I have not watched it yet so MK does it come close to WOTW?

I have not watched it yet so MK does it come close to WOTW?

Yes it does. It is a 5 star bass movie but I will have to watch WOTW again to really compare. The mains were much better than WOTW so that combined with the bass made it a great experience. Think of it like Inception score with FOTP bass.

:eek: Man it is going to be hard to wait for the weekend to watch this. Thanks MK for the reply and Bosso for the graphs.

Yes it does. It is a 5 star bass movie but I will have to watch WOTW again to really compare. The mains were much better than WOTW so that combined with the bass made it a great experience. Think of it like Inception score with FOTP bass.

It is a great experience. No filters on this bad boy. It moves lots of air with lots of pressurization.

Awesome. Tron Legacy had fantastic bass at the theater. :D

Reserved a copy at my local RedBox to watch tonight. I will probably end out buying it too.

Awesome. Tron Legacy had fantastic bass at the theater. :D

Nothing like the bluray!!!! I watched Tron twice in 2 different 3D theaters. One at my local Marquee THX 3D cinema and once on the Disney wonder's 3d theater. My theater blew them both away!!! The bass is just great! All the subjective BS(as Penn would say) is there! Pants flapping, hair moving, hair standing on end, walls flexing, etc.... This movie does it all.

What are the timestamps on the best LFE? I didn't see any on the above waterfalls.

I don't have time to watch the whole thing so I just want to demo a few scenes.

Basically any action scenes. Just start it at when Sam enters the grid!!

Nothing like the bluray!!!! I watched Tron twice in 2 different 3D theaters. One at my local Marquee THX 3D cinema and once on the Disney wonder's 3d theater. My theater blew them both away!!! The bass is just great! All the subjective BS(as Penn would say) is there! Pants flapping, hair moving, hair standing on end, walls flexing, etc.... This movie does it all.

NICE! I'm happy to hear that. :) I love to have a perfect mix of slamming midbass and pressurizing deep bass. The midbass with T:L was CRUSHING at my local cinema. The local theater I go to is a great barometer for how good bass will be at home. I can't wait to throw this disc at 12 JBL 2226's and four SS RLp18's. :eek: :eek: :eek:

NICE! I'm happy to hear that. :) I love to have a perfect mix of slamming midbass and pressurizing deep bass. The midbass with T:L was CRUSHING at my local cinema. The local theater I go to is a great barometer for how good bass will be at home. I can't wait to throw this disc at 12 JBL 2226's and four SS RLp18's. :eek: :eek: :eek:

It will be better than the cinema for sure! You will soon realize how 12 of those 15's are not even needed as 6 will blast you away!!

Haha! Yeah, I think about that all the time, James. I know our rooms are similar in size and I think about how you're rockin' the place hardcore but with half the amount of midbass drivers that I plan on installing. Holy cow, man! :cool:

Haha! Yeah, I think about that all the time, James. I know our rooms are similar in size and I think about how you're rockin' the place hardcore but with half the amount of midbass drivers that I plan on installing. Holy cow, man! :cool:

I would use the money to upgrade something else. I am thinking about selling 2 subs because I could just turn the 2 up a little for the same effect. I am building a new screen once again as my last one warped and created wrinkles(can't see them during a movie). I am pricing out aluminum this time.

My screen has the same issue so I'm using that as an excuse to upgrade mine as well. :D I think I'm sticking with lumber again but I'm pushing up from 100" diag to 120-126"-ish diag.

There are other reasons why I'm using extra midbass drivers but I don't want to muck up this thread with too much OT stuff. I'll have all that stuff thoroughly documented in an upcoming build/install thread.

Looks like Tron could get me evicted. By the house, not by the owners of the house :D

Can't wait for Tron! Just wish damn Blockbuster Online would send these Blurays out faster!!!

In today's headlines: The LFE Drought Is OVER!!!

T-R-O-N L-E-G-A-C-Y !!!

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Too many great sonic scenes to graph and LFE to 3 Hz. Hafta watch it again. :D:cool::eek:

Strap in, boys... this one ain't playin'

Bosso

TRON does rock how do I know got to watch the first 10 minutes before I had to shut it down due to the evil eye! :D Its all good though will be watching it this weekend by myself.

watched the first 10 min as well last night. the wife felt the floor shake upstairs from the empire. Need to watch this alone.

I watched twice in a row!! The bass is just incredible with a great score backing it up. The mains and bass were in unison, one of my favorite overall sound movie. Again, the surrounds were very dynamic as well, no more any surrounds will do if you watch at reference.

Yes it does. It is a 5 star bass movie but I will have to watch WOTW again to really compare. The mains were much better than WOTW so that combined with the bass made it a great experience. Think of it like Inception score with FOTP bass.

It is a great experience. No filters on this bad boy. It moves lots of air with lots of pressurization.

Nothing like the bluray!!!! I watched Tron twice in 2 different 3D theaters. One at my local Marquee THX 3D cinema and once on the Disney wonder's 3d theater. My theater blew them both away!!! The bass is just great! All the subjective BS(as Penn would say) is there! Pants flapping, hair moving, hair standing on end, walls flexing, etc.... This movie does it all.
Ahhh. I miss comments like these in this thread. Haven't had any since the incredible hulk came out in 2008. Well we have but nothing similar like the hulk IMO.

So since this hasn't been done awhile...........

Bass Movie Of The Week/Month

Tron Legacy




:)

F**kin' aye! :D

This release really shines in a nicely tuned HT. MUCH better experience than in the theater.

Actually, the last effect with this much punch all the way to 3 Hz was HTTYD at the end when the big dragon hits the ground (comparing digital and mic'd versions):
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The Tron scene you referenced is mic'd version only. I'll have to get the digital version up (haven't had time yet, maybe lfeman can help us out here) and see if there's anything lower than 3 Hz, but it's definitely a great effect in any case.

It's when the kid sits at the keyboard in the arcade and the laser shoots and the kid's sucked into the digital world. It's definitely intense. I wasn't ready for it. I sat up and paid attention to the meters and clip lights after that one. :D:eek:

Bosso

Tron is a great flick for great Bass and all around great sound. The movie is good, the sound is better. I have not watched a movie that has struck me so hard by sound quality that it was a must own in a very long time. (Scott Pilgrim aside, since that is probably my favorite movie in the last year for both bass and quality of film).
Tron is a definite must own. In fact, I will probably have to go out and buy the Tron set from Amazon today. Oh and did I mention it practically shook my house down. I watched it with a big grin for sure.

So, you guys are saying I should give Tron Legacy a listen?? :rolleyes:

Well, I know what I'm doin' Saturday night ;) :D

Chris

Watched Tron last night, my wife left the room too much bass for her.:D

Watched Tron today bass was great. Walls were shaking but movie itself was bad IMO.

Watched Tron today bass was great. Walls were shaking but movie itself was bad IMO.The movie is quite awful, but the LFE is redonkulous. Our first viewing of the movie, my button pushing daughter had set my preamp on the wrong settings and I wasn't that impressed. After realizing what had happened I re-watched some scenes and was quite pleased with the low information being pumped out. Crazy.

The movie is quite awful, but the LFE is redonkulous. Our first viewing of the movie, my button pushing daughter had set my preamp on the wrong settings and I wasn't that impressed. After realizing what had happened I re-watched some scenes and was quite pleased with the low information being pumped out. Crazy.

It can't be as bad as "The Last Airbender" could it? I don't know if I can suffer another bad movie for LFE this month.

It can't be as bad as "The Last Airbender" could it? I don't know if I can suffer another bad movie for LFE this month.Actually, I think I'm in the minority here. Seems most people here either liked it or thought it was ok. Never saw Airbender, so I can't compare.

It can't be as bad as "The Last Airbender" could it? I don't know if I can suffer another bad movie for LFE this month.

It's leaps and bounds better than that terrible movie. Tron: Legacy isn't going to win many awards, but it's not the worst plot, acting, direction, or cinematography ever. It's actually watchable, slightly better than Unstoppable, which was right on the edge of my tolerance level.

I actually enjoyed Tron Legacy. I left my expectations at the door, enjoyed the entertainment and marveled at the visuals. I think people miss out on being entertained due to unrealistic expectations.

It can't be as bad as "The Last Airbender" could it? I don't know if I can suffer another bad movie for LFE this month.

I think I enjoyed the last airbender more than tron. Horrible story audio is great

For those that might not be aware The Incredibles is coming to BlueRay this next Tuesday! HiDefDigest gives it it's highest rating for audio and video, should be a must own IMO. :cool:

For those that might not be aware The Incredibles is coming to BlueRay this next Tuesday! HiDefDigest gives it it's highest rating for audio and video, should be a must own IMO. :cool:

Ralph Potts on this forum gave it 100 for video and 100 for audio. So it should, by definition, be a reference disk.

For those that might not be aware The Incredibles is coming to BlueRay this next Tuesday! HiDefDigest gives it it's highest rating for audio and video, should be a must own IMO. :cool:
I place stock in Pixar's track record but not in highdefdigest. Those guys gave Megamind their highest rating and Megamind's LFE is terribly underwhelming.

If you read their review methodology High-Def Digest reviews on overall audio quality. Not how overwhelming the LFE is.

If you read their review methodology High-Def Digest reviews on overall audio quality. Not how overwhelming the LFE is.
Yes and good LFE is a not-insignifcant part of the overall audio quality. And for added context we are in a lfe thread.

Yes

The rest is irrelevant.

Just watched Tron last night and was very impressed. Did not go in with much expectations since I did not go to the theaters to see this one. Had the walls shaking for the first half of the movie. Then some family members went to bed and I had to turn dynamic volume on...Might end up buying the movie since I really enjoyed it and would like to listen at regular volume. Had it set at -35 when watching regularly and then set it to -30 with dynamic volume. Usually I like to listen around -20 to -25 when I am allowed.

So far If would say Tron places close to the top in overall quality bass. I was not too impressed with WOTW or Cloverfield, but my sub is entry level and I believe I was missing out on a good bit.

Others would be:
Flight of the Phoenix (plane crash)
How to Train
Dark Knight (first to bottom out my sub during the tunnels scene at -18, 0 being reference)

Kick in the Chest Bass:
Hurt Locker
Master and Commander

Most "fun" bass:
Kick Ass

Tron was fun. Not sure I'll be putting it at the top of my five star list, but it's definitely a fiver. The LFE wasn't as over the top hot as some others I've heard, but it was nice.

WotW, FotP, HTTYD, and Percy Jackson still top it for me though.

Watched Skyline on Bluray yesterday. Crap movie but the bass was outstanding and relentless throughout the movie.

The LFE in Tron is so well done. Low, Hard hitting and accurate! MY PB-13 had a great workout!

More Tron: Legacy

Time Stamp 1:53:00 thru 1:54:40 Into the portal:

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Time Stamp 1:47:00 I Fight For The Users:

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Time Stamp 1:28:00 End Of The Line Man:

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2nd Viewing. Awesome.

Bosso

guess what...












Even more Tron: Legacy waterfalls.:D

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Great bass, but i think this movie don't have that much of info in lfe channel, it seems that all big bass scenes are pretty much in other channels, at least lcr channels have tons of stuff.:)

Finally got around to Unstoppable. According to graphs posted here, it may not be the lowest, but that doesn't stop it from being one of my favorite all time!

I enjoy hot LFE tracks, but this one pointed out how important it is to be "appropriate". Natural sound vs. Artificial sound. For instance, how many of us have heard a Jericho bomb from "Ironman". :) The rumble of a train, however, is a sound most of us have experienced. When you hear it done well in your theater, it's just amazingly enjoyable!

This movie was an example of great LFE that was a "character" in and of itself. Without capable subs, I think it would fall flat on its face...loose suspense, etc.

Thanks, LFE Da MAN. :):cool:

Glad you came in on this one. Hope all is well across the pond.

Bosso

Great work here, Bosso and LFEman.

Bosso and Scott, you're welcome.:)

Finally got around to Unstoppable. According to graphs posted here, it may not be the lowest, but that doesn't stop it from being one of my favorite all time!

I enjoy hot LFE tracks, but this one pointed out how important it is to be "appropriate". Natural sound vs. Artificial sound. For instance, how many of us have heard a Jericho bomb from "Ironman". :) The rumble of a train, however, is a sound most of us have experienced. When you hear it done well in your theater, it's just amazingly enjoyable!

This movie was an example of great LFE that was a "character" in and of itself. Without capable subs, I think it would fall flat on its face...loose suspense, etc.
I liked Unstoppable overall. It had some good bass and the movie as good in general. The bass wasn't as crazy as Tron, but I like the movie much more.

Great bass, but i think this movie don't have that much of info in lfe channel, it seems that all big bass scenes are pretty much in other channels, at least lcr channels have tons of stuff.:)
Not that I was disappointed with the bass in LFE department. Quite the contrary for me, it felt like my sub was really working. I could feel the cone getting a really big workout. But I will agree that there is a lot of stuff in the mains. I thought the mains got very loud. In fact, this is the first movie that I think may be a strain for my mains at the level I have been watching BR's at. Not that it sounded bad, because it did not. I just think I may have to just lower my level just a bit for this one. No big deal because I have a feeling it will sound fantastic.

Great bass, but i think this movie don't have that much of info in lfe channel, it seems that all big bass scenes are pretty much in other channels, at least lcr channels have tons of stuff.:)

Isn't that how all movies are? Theres alway bass in the left, center and right channels. Even the surrounds. Thats why i would rather look at charts that show the redirected bass instead of the ones that show one single information.

Just got done watching Tron and WOW, new demo disc for both LFE and PQ
Better than Cloverfield for LFE IMO

I just finished re-watching my favorite Tron scenes at -10dB. Definitely my new HT demo. I was getting this annoying buzz from my surround speakers during the opening music before the disc games... turns out it was the covers rattling against the speaker cabinets... not caused by the surrounds themselves, but my Hsu VTF-3 MK3 was shaking my walls so hard that it was resonating the grills on my Klipsch surrounds on the other side of the room. Took off the covers, and things were better. Now I gotta figure out how to better secure them. LOL

Things I really like about the Tron sound: Score is more "in your face" than most movies, and in a good way. Everything is mixed with such a wide immersive space. Surrounds are used constantly throughout. I really loved the sound when the Recognizer ships were flying Sam to the games.

Right after watching Tron we watched Ocean's 13 blu-ray, and it felt like mono sound by comparison. Huge contrast.

Tron had awesome bass and great sound overall. The story has some holes but I enjoyed it and have watched 3 times already. Thanks to Bosso and lfe man for the graphs!

I watched Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows 1 last night. Some pretty decent LFE in this one and a good movie if you enjoy them.

Sounds exciting, I'm looking forward to seeing, hearing, and of course feeling what it's all about.

As always, thank you for the spectral content graphs.

Tron had awesome bass and great sound overall. The story has some holes but I enjoyed it and have watched 3 times already. Thanks to Bosso and lfe man for the graphs!

I watched Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows 1 last night. Some pretty decent LFE in this one and a good movie if you enjoy them.

TRON legacy had a very good mix! I also watched some of the Deathly Hallows 1 last night but it was late and the kids were in bed halfway through. Even though they are upstairs my wife didn't want the floor shaking so I had to either turn it down or watch it again later.. I chose to watch it again but so far I thought the surround mix and the LFE were very impressive.

HPDH1 had some pretty good LFE, it's no Tron Legacy in the LFE department; but it's a better moviev to watch IMO.

has the first post by "DrPainMD" with the list of number of "Stars" been updated with recent releases ?

Watched "Tron" last night. I must not be a base head... Or let me rephrase and go back to my thoughts on "Unstoppable". To me, the LFE track in Unstoppable was far more enjoyable than Tron. Tron was just too much, it was happening through the entire movie. Everything in the Tron world shook the house. About 30 min in, I lowered LFE by 4db because we were exhausted by it! And the house was still rattling in places I hadn't heard before.

If you want to hear your subs get a workout, it's great. If you want LFE that feels appropriate, I don't think this is it. That might be a topic in and of itself...what movies might make a list of both 1. Good movie 2. Appropriate, but slamming base.

And the house was still rattling in places I hadn't heard before.


Perhaps you should try some Room EQ. This would set reference levels and tame boomy un-natural bass.

I have a well treated room, Parametric EQ on the subs and Audyssey on the whole system. Reference levels are set and although it isn't perfect yet, it's not an out of control base system. My issues with Tron are not system related (well, maybe 10% :) )

I would agree, tron seemed a little over the top in the lf...it beats you up pretty good...still pretty cool tho.

Tron Legacy is now my go-to demo disc for both picture quality and especially sound. Agreed with posters above on this.

Yesterday, I grabbed Megamind on sale for the little one and we watched the Button of Doom short. BOOM! BOOM! Loved it. :)

Fry's had the 6 previous Harry potter movie on Blu-ray for $10 each, Target price matched! I bought the first 5 of them I have on dvd, a couple of mine were even "full screen" LOL. Time for a Potter-thon!

has the first post by "DrPainMD" with the list of number of "Stars" been updated with recent releases ?

bump...

Post 1 was on "11-23-06, 09:23 AM"

I'm sure there have been movies with good bass since then. Can someone update the original list. There might be newer movies worthy to be added in 5 Stars, 4 Stars, 3 Stars....

thanks

bump...

Post 1 was on "11-23-06, 09:23 AM"

I'm sure there have been movies with good bass since then. Can someone update the original list. There might be newer movies worthy to be added in 5 Stars, 4 Stars, 3 Stars....

thanks

I've be asking about this for a looooooooong time. The OP doesn't participate anymore so you'll have to ask a mod if you want control over it.

I liked when this thread was more active with kind of stuff. See my post on the last page about tron. I miss that kind of thing.

Astroboy - DVD. Has a little bit of LFE fun around 10 minutes in, then goes to sleep for an hour. Much like myself when I watched it.

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Waiting until I get my new BD player so I can watch Tron in 3D and lossless, but glad to hear that it's got great bass. It had probably the deepest bass I've heard in a theater, a theater that I frequent, nonetheless.

I am just jumping back into this thread after awhile being away. While channel surfing recently I watched the last 1/2 of AstroBoy. Silly movie from what I could see of the end but then there was this fight between AB and the big bad monster robot and I was hearing a low rumble, lower than anything I have ever heard in my room. Nice enough that I would try to get the film on blue ray and try it direct instead of cable 5.1. Lower than the ice fields scene in titan ac, lower than anything in the lord of the rings series, latest star trek and latest terminator.
A total surprise.

oh snap, Flyers just scored tieing it up 3-3.
Signing off now.

I've be asking about this for a looooooooong time. The OP doesn't participate anymore so you'll have to ask a mod if you want control over it.

I liked when this thread was more active with kind of stuff. See my post on the last page about tron. I miss that kind of thing.

Someone would have to start a new thread; the first post in this thread can only be modified by the OP.

If someone is interested, PM one of the mods so they can sticky your thread and close this one. I am already managing another thread otherwise I might be interested.

The mods can do whatever they want, closing this thread and starting a brand new one would just cause confusion when I'm pretty sure the mods could just label someone else the "Master/OP", or take control themselves.

Someone definitely needs to start a new thread and its not me lol. I might make a comeback and post some new waterfalls if a new thread is created, who knows....

Yo guys...Is the final scene in How to Train Your Dragon in which the giant dragon crashes from the sky supposed to be room shaking or full of subsonic content?

I can't seem to hear much when it crashes down. But the I can definitely hear the dragon's wing flaps which seem pretty low to me.

i'm using a new Rythmik F12 to test this.

Yo guys...Is the final scene in How to Train Your Dragon in which the giant dragon crashes from the sky supposed to be room shaking or full of subsonic content?

A little of column A and a little of column B. It does reach really low at high levels.

Yo guys...Is the final scene in How to Train Your Dragon in which the giant dragon crashes from the sky supposed to be room shaking or full of subsonic content?

I can't seem to hear much when it crashes down. But the I can definitely hear the dragon's wing flaps which seem pretty low to me.

i'm using a new Rythmik F12 to test this.


That final scene, IMHO, is def too strong for my dual ULS-15s........ I cannot get much room shaking feeling on that scene and i think it is simply because the content is way too low for my subs to successfully reproduce at usable levels.

Just like you, i can hear the wings flap and even feel that but the part that everyone speaks about, the dragon coming out of the cave, is less than overwhelming in my case. I dont feel much there at all, and i am very surprised.

But that blu ray is def a good one for bass, its really good.

The mods can do whatever they want, closing this thread and starting a brand new one would just cause confusion when I'm pretty sure the mods could just label someone else the "Master/OP", or take control themselves.

Speaking from experience, unless they are going to give you access to all of DrPain's posts, which they won't, a new thread will have to be created.

That is what was required with the thread that I manage, a new one had to be created when I took it over.

If you do not believe me, PM a mod and find out. ;)

That final scene, IMHO, is def too strong for my dual ULS-15s........ I cannot get much room shaking feeling on that scene and i think it is simply because the content is way too low for my subs to successfully reproduce at usable levels.

Just like you, i can hear the wings flap and even feel that but the part that everyone speaks about, the dragon coming out of the cave, is less than overwhelming in my case. I dont feel much there at all, and i am very surprised.

But that blu ray is def a good one for bass, its really good.

wow...even your 2 mighty ULS 15 got overwhelmed by this scene? And I thought my F12 had managed to shut down because it was so quiet.

Guess we'll have to wait for someone with a Sub 2 or Submersive to comment on this scene.

wow...even your 2 mighty ULS 15 got overwhelmed by this scene? And I thought my F12 had managed to shut down because it was so quiet.

Guess we'll have to wait for someone with a Sub 2 or Submersive to comment on this scene.

With my 2011 Captivator powered by an EP4000 in bridged mono, the part where the big dragon comes out of the cave is really intense and deep! However, I'd have to say when it hits the ground and explodes at the end of the fight is even better.

I think the big dragon cave exit scene isn't the highest intensity, but it is one of the lowest parts of that movie. Again, my Captivator was anything but silent here!

With my 2011 Captivator powered by an EP4000 in bridged mono, the part where the big dragon comes out of the cave is really intense and deep! However, I'd have to say when it hits the ground and explodes at the end of the fight is even better.

I think the big dragon cave exit scene isn't the highest intensity, but it is one of the lowest parts of that movie. Again, my Captivator was anything but silent here!

you guys have to realize that if you are getting bass waves from a ported sub well under it's tune it is 100% distortion and not clean. If this is anything under 12hz the cap will be 100% distortion. I think that cave seen is under 10hz.

you guys have to realize that if you are getting bass waves from a ported sub well under it's tune it is 100% distortion and not clean. If this is anything under 12hz the cap will be 100% distortion. I think that cave seen is under 10hz.

I understand completely and that's why I think it's less impressive than the other scenes. The Cap doesn't do much of anything below its 15hz tuning, especially with a HPF installed. The point was that I think there must be something wrong with their sealed sub configuration, because if my ported sub is outputting a lot of LFE in that scene, then it's not for lack of content. ;)

I understand completely and that's why I think it's less impressive than the other scenes. The Cap doesn't do much of anything below its 15hz tuning, especially with a HPF installed. The point was that I think there must be something wrong with their sealed sub configuration, because if my ported sub is outputting a lot of LFE in that scene, then it's not for lack of content. ;)

Nothing wrong with their sealed sub, just does not have the chops to produce enough spl as a single Cap within the Cap's range. That cave scene though is meant for multiple sealed 18 inch subs(with room gain and/or EQ) or a giant ported sub with a very low tune(I have not seen one to go this low yet).

^^^ that is exactly what i was thinking. That scene has to be meant to be played on multiple 18s......dont get me wrong, HTTYD is definitely a good bass movie for my duals but those really intense scenes get nothing worth talking about from my subs. Actually, playing a 10Hz test tone at -10dB from reference bottomed my subs, so playing those sub 10Hz scenes really isnt possible in my case. I would def like to hear or feel what those scenes really should be though, that might be a great experience.

MK, can you reproduce those scenes at reference?

^^^ that is exactly what i was thinking. That scene has to be meant to be played on multiple 18s......dont get me wrong, HTTYD is definitely a good bass movie for my duals but those really intense scenes get nothing worth talking about from my subs. Actually, playing a 10Hz test tone at -10dB from reference bottomed my subs, so playing those sub 10Hz scenes really isnt possible in my case. I would def like to hear or feel what those scenes really should be though, that might be a great experience.

MK, can you reproduce those scenes at reference?

Yes I can, but I have 8 sealed 18's in a 2100 cubic foot room. It just adds some pressure and the feeling of doom.

Don't forget about IB's =] They're also capable of digging low.

Don't forget about IB's =] They're also capable of digging low.

Same concept.

The most brutal scene in the movie is the giant dragon crashing into the ground. Not only does it pack a punch above 20 Hz, it has a simultaneous bottom that spans 2-15 Hz that would be demanding all by itself.

http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae206/pointonetech/Picture2-5.png

As MKT said, the Cap hasn't a chance of reproducing that effect. In fact, at reference level from 4 meters, there aren't a whole lot of systems anywhere that can handle the scene.

My own jury is still out on whether or not MKT's system handles it at ref level, as I don't believe the Chase stuff is up to it in any quantity because of the amplifiers roll off. Time will tell.

OTOH, I'm positive that notnyt's system can handle the job. Many are familiar with the capability of his LMS 5400 18" drivers times 8, and I know for a fact that the marathon MA5050 amps play strong to around 5 Hz, so he's at least good to there, which is saying a lot.

My system has new amps that get me to 3 Hz, which I've verified by running the scene directly from the BR Player vs mic'ing the playback by the subs at the LP:

http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae206/pointonetech/HTTYDDragonhitsthegrounddigitvmic.jpg

Bosso

The most brutal scene in the movie is the giant dragon crashing into the ground. Not only does it pack a punch above 20 Hz, it has a simultaneous bottom that spans 2-15 Hz that would be demanding all by itself.

http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae206/pointonetech/Picture2-5.png

As MKT said, the Cap hasn't a chance of reproducing that effect. In fact, at reference level from 4 meters, there aren't a whole lot of systems anywhere that can handle the scene.

My own jury is still out on whether or not MKT's system handles it at ref level, as I don't believe the Chase stuff is up to it in any quantity because of the amplifiers roll off. Time will tell.

OTOH, I'm positive that notnyt's system can handle the job. Many are familiar with the capability of his LMS 5400 18" drivers times 8, and I know for a fact that the marathon MA5050 amps play strong to around 5 Hz, so he's at least good to there, which is saying a lot.

My system has new amps that get me to 3 Hz, which I've verified by running the scene directly from the BR Player vs mic'ing the playback by the subs at the LP:

http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae206/pointonetech/HTTYDDragonhitsthegrounddigitvmic.jpg

Bosso

Actually I can hit reference down till 7hz with this setup. My next setup should hit 5hz or 3hz(amp) ;)

With my new measurements not using cal files I am down 10db's at 10hz and 12 db's at 7hz from 20hz. I know I can hit over 126 db's at 20hz so doing the math reference should be good at 7hz but not flat unless I boost quite a bit down low.

Bosso, when are you releasing info on these amps? =]

The dragon crashing scene is quite intense and more impressive than the cave exit.

I'm running a single SubMersive in a reasonably small room, in an apartment no less (!).

Measured with REW to 4hz before it drops off (perhaps we did something wrong as Mark says most owners measure in the 7 - 15hz range).

The dragon crashing scene is quite intense and more impressive than the cave exit.

I'm running a single SubMersive in a reasonably small room, in an apartment no less (!).

Measured with REW to 4hz before it drops off (perhaps we did something wrong as Mark says most owners measure in the 7 - 15hz range).

What Mic did you use?

The dragon crashing scene is quite intense and more impressive than the cave exit.
My IB would agree with you. I just played that scene at -3 from reference but my IB is running 8db hot and the cave exit doesn't have much there except a few blips here and there, you can definitely hear/feel things happening but nothing like one would expect. The cave exit should have had some low and intense content seeing that it's breaking up the earth/mountain around it.

If the ultimate goal is to dig down to subterranian levels, how come nobody has mentioned the Thigpen rotary fan subwoofer? I thought it was capable of delivering solid output to below 1hz. It's not cheap, but I suspect that several of the systems described here aren't either. Maybe it could be used to augment a system that currently digs down to 20hz. Any thoughts? Sorry if I am opening a big can of worms.

because it's cheaper to build a setup like mine than to buy one thigpen. My setup will crush a thigpen in spl and sq.

Bosso, when are you releasing info on these amps? =]

In about 2 weeks. You and MKT will be the first to get a ping. :cool:

MKT,

I lifted this Dayton 1000 amp FR a while back. I know the amp has been MKII'd since then, but have not seen any confirmation that its FR is any different:

http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae206/pointonetech/Picture5-4.png

If the roll off of the MKII is different, no one has measured it or said where the HPF is or what order, but my experience has been that Class D amps of a claimed 1kw output roll off before 10 Hz.

If my guess is wrong, it should be no problem for someone who has one to prove it.

Bosso

Posting that old graph of a different amp doesn't prove anything.

Lets stick to facts... owners are hitting some pretty incredible numbers with the Chase subwoofer systems. People that have actually heard the subs love them.

Will they hit 2 Hz? Probably not. :D

In about 2 weeks. You and MKT will be the first to get a ping. :cool:

MKT,

I lifted this Dayton 1000 amp FR a while back. I know the amp has been MKII'd since then, but have not seen any confirmation that its FR is any different:

http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae206/pointonetech/Picture5-4.png

If the roll off of the MKII is different, no one has measured it or said where the HPF is or what order, but my experience has been that Class D amps of a claimed 1kw output roll off before 10 Hz.

If my guess is wrong, it should be no problem for someone who has one to prove it.

Bosso

I ran a new sweep but this time with no cal files and just using C-weighted on my RS meter. I am down 10db's at my LP at 10hz from 20hz. My response is +/- 3 db's from 12-100hz without any EQ.

Posting that old graph of a different amp doesn't prove anything.

Lets stick to facts... owners are hitting some pretty incredible numbers with the Chase subwoofer systems. People that have actually heard the subs love them.

Will they hit 2 Hz? Probably not. :D

Except, that's the amp they use, is it not? Who's posted solid 10hz numbers with the Chase systems?

Yes I can, but I have 8 sealed 18's in a 2100 cubic foot room. It just adds some pressure and the feeling of doom.

This has to be the best quote of the thread!

Except, that's the amp they use, is it not? Who's posted solid 10hz numbers with the Chase systems?

No, that is not the amp. The only reason I bothered to post here was to counter the misrepresentation of the posted graph.

There have been quite a few graphs posted here and elsewhere in user reviews. Considering that it is basically plug and play, and what it cost, the Chase subs do very well.

You guys are heavy hitters, no questions about it. Most people do not measure, most of us that do cannot measure down that far (10 Hz.) with any degree of accuracy anyway. I hope you guys can come up with a decent RS SPL table in your other thread, I have considered sending you my meter for your study!

Yes I can, but I have 8 sealed 18's in a 2100 cubic foot room. It just adds some pressure and the feeling of doom.
This has to be the best quote of the thread!

Agreed, I thought about stealing that for my sig. :D

When you get really good bass, you know just what MKT is talking about.

Posting that old graph of a different amp doesn't prove anything.

Lets stick to facts... owners are hitting some pretty incredible numbers with the Chase subwoofer systems. People that have actually heard the subs love them.

Will they hit 2 Hz? Probably not. :D

You can't be serious. You guys post graphs, defend them, discard them, post new ones, defend them, discard them, use mics without cal files, get caught lying about it, claim amnesia as to what mic was used and on and on.

Let's not insult any more than we have by preaching who should stick to facts, eh?

If the FR is different, post the correct one. If you can't do that, please take the 'trust me' attitude back where they buy that sort of nonsense.

People with experience don't have to actually hear a sub to know the score, but thanks again for the continual insinuation otherwise.

Bosso

Kettle black. If you want to prop up your position with that questionable graph, you go for it.

Just don't expect to be taken seriously, mmmkay?

Kettle black. If you want to prop up your position with that questionable graph, you go for it.

Just don't expect to be taken seriously, mmmkay?

The graph is an actual measured result. I realize from you CHT guys' posting history that that's a foreign concept, but to most of us here, not so much.

I don't sweat being taken seriously, but thanks for your concern.

IOW, as usual, you have nothing to offer but hot air. I'd be swell of you to take it elsewhere.

Bosso

Question is, what is that graph an actual measured result of? :confused:

At best, it is misleading.

Question is, what is that graph an actual measured result of? :confused:

At best, it is misleading.

So, post one that is accurate.

In about 2 weeks. You and MKT will be the first to get a ping. :cool:

Bosso

Oh I see how it is...Is this because I only have 4 18's in the ht system? :)

Oh I see how it is...Is this because I only have 4 18's in the ht system? :)

How could anyone exclude you? It should have been OK to go without saying, my friend. :D:cool:

Bosso

Bosso, does your system consist of 18s also or are the blackbirds and ravens a different size woofer? If there are 18" how many are there in your system?

Bosso, does your system consist of 18s also or are the blackbirds and ravens a different size woofer? If there are 18" how many are there in your system?

quality 15's

How many though?

At least eight drivers, from what Bosso has posted about the system.

I've run extensive placement and number of dual 15 modules tests in my room. 4 BBs (8x15) is more than enough. When I add 4 more (16x15) I get no noticeable improvement in dBSPL, non-linear behavior or transient tracking, at least to my ears and to the equipment I have to monitor such performance.

I don't run my sub +10dB hot and I don't try to peg the RS meter. I listen generally at around -5dBRL and may bump the SW +3dB if the soundtrack warrants it, but generally I like a flat response for movies and I absolutely hate a bumped sub with music. I'm a bass player, not a bass maniac. :)

Still, with 8x15 and a couple of 8kw burst SMPS amps fed by a custom analog processor with 18 preset curves, I doubt anyone would feel they lack performance anywhere across the LFE BW. They look pretty cool too. :p

Bosso

They look pretty cool too. :p



And those pics are where?

Except, that's the amp they use, is it not? Who's posted solid 10hz numbers with the Chase systems?

This is incorrect.

Our systems utilize the SA-1000 amplifier. The measurement from Chuck's thread was from an earlier model: the HPSA-1000.

This is incorrect.

Our systems utilize the SA-1000 amplifier. The measurement from Chuck's thread was from an earlier model: the HPSA-1000.

Any graphs?

Any graphs?

The graph posted came from Chuck. To my knowledge he has not tested the newer Dayton amplifiers.

Ricci should be getting one of our sealed subwoofers soon if all goes as planned. And hopefully that can help demonstrate what the units actually do at 10hz along with some CEA numbers.

Your room is looking very nice BTW notnyt.

The graph posted came from Chuck. To my knowledge he has not tested the newer Dayton amplifiers.

Ricci should be getting one of our sealed subwoofers soon if all goes as planned. And hopefully that can help demonstrate what the units actually do at 10hz along with some CEA numbers.

Your room is looking very nice BTW notnyt.

Thanks. I'm not trying to cause any issues btw, I'm just overly curious.

Thanks. I'm not trying to cause any issues btw, I'm just overly curious.

No problem at all man!

More on topic: I am actually looking forward to doing some serious movie watching next week. From all the talk about the Tron soundtrack, I may actually have to add that to the list.

I've run extensive placement and number of dual 15 modules tests in my room. 4 BBs (8x15) is more than enough. When I add 4 more (16x15) I get no noticeable improvement in dBSPL, non-linear behavior or transient tracking, at least to my ears and to the equipment I have to monitor such performance.

I don't run my sub +10dB hot and I don't try to peg the RS meter. I listen generally at around -5dBRL and may bump the SW +3dB if the soundtrack warrants it, but generally I like a flat response for movies and I absolutely hate a bumped sub with music. I'm a bass player, not a bass maniac. :)

Still, with 8x15 and a couple of 8kw burst SMPS amps fed by a custom analog processor with 18 preset curves, I doubt anyone would feel they lack performance anywhere across the LFE BW. They look pretty cool too. :p

Bosso

Much information there, and I'd enjoy discussing it all. However, your comments wrt overall spectral balance are of particular interest to me. How are you determining your sub/LFE system operational level? When you mentioned a +3db bump, are you referenced to 1kHz? Additionally, is your 20hz spectral balance referenced at -5dBRL?

My involvement in performance audio, and my enthusiast background in home audio, have me constantly assessing balance in general. More specifically and wrt our discussion here, sufficient LF impact and balance without undue chestyness imparted to vocals. Different material, at various playback levels, have a wide variety of "tilt" requirements IMO.

I've got go to settings that I can use for most any recorded material,.... and this is where the rig stays. However, for all my demo spectaculars, I've got very specific playback level, and EQ settings (documented). These changes a relatively small, yet highly significant IMO. Regardless, my primary interest is in your rig's spectral balance, and some degree of elaboration of your above comments.

Thanks

Except, that's the amp they use, is it not? Who's posted solid 10hz numbers with the Chase systems?

Hey Notnyt -

I was thinking about adding to my sub thread and came across this. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=20095025&postcount=66

Isn't all the way to 10Hz but it doesn't look like the sub will be down much if at all that low.

That Dayton OmniMic looks like a nice unit. :)

What Mic did you use?
We used a Galaxy CM-140 Sound Level Meter (http://www.cross-spectrum.com/measurement/calibrated_cm140.html). A friend of mine brought his over, setup REW and did all the measurements.

http://www.operatorchan.org/t/arch/src/t115728_derailed-train-derailed-thread-demotivational-post.jpg

In that case, can anyone recommend something new I should pick up this week BESIDES Tron Legacy? lol

I want some good reference material but I want to check out a new flick as well.

In that case, can anyone recommend something new I should pick up this week BESIDES Tron Legacy? lol

I want some good reference material but I want to check out a new flick as well.

Harry Potter

Harry Potter

While i'm over the HP target age group :eek: Is the sound track good? How about the film. (i enjoyed the HP films so far, guilty pleasure I suppose). :o

Not a great movie, but Skyline had some hard hitting bass in it too. And I ONLY have a HSU VTF2.3

While i'm over the HP target age group :eek: Is the sound track good? How about the film. (i enjoyed the HP films so far, guilty pleasure I suppose). :o

I like the HP's and they have been getting darker and less cute so I like them better. The sound track sounds great but the bass is good, not great.

Harry Potter

I admit to liking the HP series for the most part. I will have to give Deathly Hallows a shot!

Narnia 3 had some good bass throughout the movie.

...can anyone recommend something new I should pick up this week BESIDES Tron Legacy? lol

I want some good reference material but I want to check out a new flick as well.
Some old, some new, but my list of favorites:

Tron Legacy
War of the Worlds
Percy Jackson: The Lightning Thief
How to Train Your Dragon
Flight of the Phoenix
The Dark Knight
Hot Fuzz

The graph posted came from Chuck. To my knowledge he has not tested the newer Dayton amplifiers.

Ricci should be getting one of our sealed subwoofers soon if all goes as planned. And hopefully that can help demonstrate what the units actually do at 10hz along with some CEA numbers.

Your room is looking very nice BTW notnyt.




Here is the graph taken from the SA-1000 owner's manual.


http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm232/Red_Foreman/Dayton_SA1500.jpg

Narnia 3 had some good bass throughout the movie.

Just finished this one and it had some fun bass scenes. I had low expectations for this and ended up enjoying it.

The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor - DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1

Late to the game on this one but holy smokes
I have every top rated blu-ray (audio) and this gives up nothing
Had no idea (just noticed it is on the front page at 4 1/2)
well deserved

has the first post by "DrPainMD" with the list of number of "Stars" been updated with recent releases ?

bump...

Post 1 was on "11-23-06, 09:23 AM"

I'm sure there have been movies with good bass since then. Can someone update the original list. There might be newer movies worthy to be added in 5 Stars, 4 Stars, 3 Stars....

thanks

I've be asking about this for a looooooooong time. The OP doesn't participate anymore so you'll have to ask a mod if you want control over it.

I liked when this thread was more active with kind of stuff. See my post on the last page about tron. I miss that kind of thing.

Someone would have to start a new thread; the first post in this thread can only be modified by the OP.

If someone is interested, PM one of the mods so they can sticky your thread and close this one. I am already managing another thread otherwise I might be interested.

The mods can do whatever they want, closing this thread and starting a brand new one would just cause confusion when I'm pretty sure the mods could just label someone else the "Master/OP", or take control themselves.

Someone definitely needs to start a new thread and its not me lol. I might make a comeback and post some new waterfalls if a new thread is created, who knows....

Speaking from experience, unless they are going to give you access to all of DrPain's posts, which they won't, a new thread will have to be created.

That is what was required with the thread that I manage, a new one had to be created when I took it over.

If you do not believe me, PM a mod and find out. ;)


guys please lets do something about this....:confused: the fist post with the list of movies needs to be updated.... there are a lot of new movies with good BASS since then and the list is so outdated....!

please what can we do...?!?

guys please lets do something about this....:confused: the fist post with the list of movies needs to be updated.... there are a lot of new movies with good BASS since then and the list is so outdated....!

please what can we do...?!?

if the OP doesn't come back, someone will have to start another one

if nobody is up to it. we'll just have to keep this one going as is

whenever a new mega bass movie comes out, there's usually a thread about it that last a couple months

it is nice to have a master list but what can you do

^ the best method would be the addition of a wiki within the thread that allowed members to edit it, therefore making it self-sustaining and doesn't rely on one person. This type of feature is used in forums like slickdeals so I would think AVS has the potential to also have the same capability. Would also benefit other threads instead of having to sift through an entire thread for updates, people could just update the wiki within the thread for everyone to reference.

A wiki would be the perfect thing but how does one create it? Do you have to host your own server or pay for it?

Mega"]
Some old, some new, but my list of favorites:

Tron Legacy
War of the Worlds
Percy Jackson: The Lightning Thief
How to Train Your Dragon
Flight of the Phoenix
The Dark Knight
Hot Fuzz

I'll add Scott Pilgrim vs the World to that list. Surprising low end....

JSS

So...I just watched Iron Man BD for the first time with my newest edition, the Submersive HP. It was a fun ride...but there were some disappointing things that I wanted to see if anyone could confirm or tell me I'm crazy, lol. I was really expecting the Jericho missile test scene to be crazy. Massive rumbling and all sorts of movement...but it was a bit of a let down. There were so many other explosions on the disc that were more guttural than that. Heck, I felt even when the Iron Man was walking out of the Cave his foot steps were more pounding. Am I crazy, or was that explosion not as hot as I thought it might be?

Black swan good bass in this movie. The movie itself is pretty good.

watched Hereafter and while the movie was meh, good bass scenes during the beginning and with the visions. wasn't expecting it at all

I'll add Scott Pilgrim vs the World to that list. Surprising low end....

JSS


I just watched Scott Pilgrim vs. the World last weekend and it had some awesome LFE! A good variety of punch and low extension. Also watched The Hurt Locker. That had some really good LFE too.

Here is the graph taken from the SA-1000 owner's manual.


http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm232/Red_Foreman/Dayton_SA1500.jpg

Exactly. The older unit did not have a selectable subsonic filter.
It had the subsonic filter permanently engaged at about 18hz.

So...I just watched Iron Man BD for the first time with my newest edition, the Submersive HP. It was a fun ride...but there were some disappointing things that I wanted to see if anyone could confirm or tell me I'm crazy, lol. I was really expecting the Jericho missile test scene to be crazy. Massive rumbling and all sorts of movement...but it was a bit of a let down. There were so many other explosions on the disc that were more guttural than that. Heck, I felt even when the Iron Man was walking out of the Cave his foot steps were more pounding. Am I crazy, or was that explosion not as hot as I thought it might be?

DreamWarrior the issue is that your copy of Ironman has flagged the "Night Listening Mode" of your receiver. For some reason this movie when produced enacted this flag and unless you go into the receiver and deactivate it, your bass in everything you watch from now on will be lackluster. There was a huge thread about it here two years ago (too lazy to look it up) but yeah go into your receiver and turn off the night listening mode and replay that scene. I made the same mistake and was wondering where all my bass went (I have 10 sub drivers in my main HT system) then I remembered and turned of night mode and tried it again and holy smokes that Jericho scene was awesome.

DreamWarrior the issue is that your copy of Ironman has flagged the "Night Listening Mode" of your receiver. For some reason this movie when produced enacted this flag and unless you go into the receiver and deactivate it, your bass in everything you watch from now on will be lackluster. There was a huge thread about it here two years ago (too lazy to look it up) but yeah go into your receiver and turn off the night listening mode and replay that scene. I made the same mistake and was wondering where all my bass went (I have 10 sub drivers in my main HT system) then I remembered and turned of night mode and tried it again and holy smokes that Jericho scene was awesome.
I don't see anything in my Denon 2106 configuration for night mode. Maybe it'll get better when the BD player is connected via HDMI so I can get the PCM (or bitstreamed) output rather than the toslink output. We'll see....but thanks, I'll watch for that when I get a better receiver.

It's not the actual Iron Man movie causing it, it's the fact anything in Dolby True HD audio will for some reason enact night mode if night mode is set to auto in either your AVR or BD player. Go into the menu of the AVR & BDP and set night mode to off, not auto.

So...I just watched Iron Man BD for the first time with my newest edition, the Submersive HP. It was a fun ride...but there were some disappointing things that I wanted to see if anyone could confirm or tell me I'm crazy, lol. I was really expecting the Jericho missile test scene to be crazy. Massive rumbling and all sorts of movement...but it was a bit of a let down. There were so many other explosions on the disc that were more guttural than that. Heck, I felt even when the Iron Man was walking out of the Cave his foot steps were more pounding. Am I crazy, or was that explosion not as hot as I thought it might be?

DreamWarrior the issue is that your copy of Ironman has flagged the "Night Listening Mode" of your receiver. For some reason this movie when produced enacted this flag and unless you go into the receiver and deactivate it,.

It's not the actual Iron Man movie causing it, it's the fact anything in Dolby True HD audio will for some reason enact night mode if night mode is set to auto in either your AVR or BD player. Go into the menu of the AVR & BDP and set night mode to off, not auto.


Thank you to all of you that posted this info. IronMan was the one bluray that so many others raved about in terms of LFE that I never understood why. Other than the cave exist and a few other scenes, I did not know what the hype was about and why this movie got a 4.5 LFE rating on this thread. My previous sub was a HSU VTF3.2 and I'm currently running the SubMersive HP and still felt this movie was bit of a let down overall for LFE.

After I read these comments, I went ahead and checked my BR player settings and it was set to DRC OFF. I played the disc and hit the Late Night button for my Onkyo 805 receiver remote and noticed that it was set to "Auto", I switched it to "off" and had to head off to work so did not get to test anything out. My BR player bitstreams the audio to my receiver.

After work, I powered everything back on and played the disc again. I noticed it defaulted to "Auto" again for Late Night Mode, I switched it to "off" again and ran through some of the scenes I thought was lackluster (Jericho missile, Supersonic flight scenes and a few others). There is a Very nice improvement in those scenes now. I finally hear and feel what the "hype" was about! :D

Thanks again guys!

Ugh, lol...I am glad my disappointment with Iron Man's Jericho scene could help others lol. I will keep an eye out when I see the dynamic range compression (aka night mode) on my new receiver. In the mean time, I'll toy with my BD settings to see if the optical's DTS output can get better.

Thanks again! Here's to enjoying movie bass :cheers: lol.

I got a sneek peek @ the movie "I am Number 4" and I am just say'in; Be prepared!

I got a sneek peek @ the movie "I am Number 4" and I am just say'in; Be prepared!

Watched it yesterday and the dts core had great LFE!!!

Great soundtrack on The Incredibles. Watched it yesterday with my son on bluray.

There is an upcoming re-release of Master & Commander on Blu-Ray (May 10th). It comes in a "Digi-Book" case but I'm unaware if anything has changed or if they are including more extras.

I wonder if it will be given a new video transfer and if the audio portion will be any different (some people here complained about an apparent 25hz filter applied to the LFE).

Would be nice but I'm not getting my hopes up!

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Master-and-Commander-The-Far-Side-of-the-World-Blu-ray/22237/

Any waterfalls of Harry potter 7 ?
Good LFE ;), and good film too!

Thanks in advance :)

Spent a little time searching threads, but couldn't find what I was looking for - which is a movie with good "punch" bass. Watched Kung-Fu Hustle at the dealer the other day and it's got some amazing punch during the fight scenes. Problem is, I don't have that movie at home (although it is a great and amusing flick). Any scene recommendations that have good punch to them (not necessarily deep and low, but powerful and 'sharp'). Thanks in advance

Spent a little time searching threads, but couldn't find what I was looking for - which is a movie with good "punch" bass. Watched Kung-Fu Hustle at the dealer the other day and it's got some amazing punch during the fight scenes. Problem is, I don't have that movie at home (although it is a great and amusing flick). Any scene recommendations that have good punch to them (not necessarily deep and low, but powerful and 'sharp'). Thanks in advance

Fight Club.

Fight Club.

Thanks.
Never seen it, but know about it. Any particular scenes?

Spent a little time searching threads, but couldn't find what I was looking for - which is a movie with good "punch" bass. Watched Kung-Fu Hustle at the dealer the other day and it's got some amazing punch during the fight scenes. Problem is, I don't have that movie at home (although it is a great and amusing flick). Any scene recommendations that have good punch to them (not necessarily deep and low, but powerful and 'sharp'). Thanks in advance

I have always liked the midbass and gun shots in Underworld.

I hope it's not just my system, but I was not particularly impressed by the quality of bass in "Percy Jackson: The Lightning Thief". Lot's of others listed here I was impressed by, but not that one.

I hope it's not just my system, but I was not particularly impressed by the quality of bass in "Percy Jackson: The Lightning Thief". Lot's of others listed here I was impressed by, but not that one.

Been a while since I've seen it but I was definitely impressed at the time. It's not quite WotW, but I think it's easily a 4.5 and maybe a 5.

Been a while since I've seen it but I was definitely impressed at the time. It's not quite WotW, but I think it's easily a 4.5 and maybe a 5.

There are maybe about 2 or 3 other movies out of the five star list that could match WotW. It's pretty much at the top of the heap ;)

Percy Jackson is still 5 star for me, especially now that I have the Blu-Ray. It challenges my tapped horn in a way most movies don't. No complaints at all about the sound mix quality - Randy Thom knows what he's doing.

Fight Club has to be the best audio mix i have heard on BD. It is a must have BD (great movie also) if it is just for the audio.

There are maybe about 2 or 3 other movies out of the five star list that could match WotW. It's pretty much at the top of the heap ;)

Percy Jackson is still 5 star for me, especially now that I have the Blu-Ray. It challenges my tapped horn in a way most movies don't. No complaints at all about the sound mix quality - Randy Thom knows what he's doing.

Randy Thom does make this hobby much more enjoyable for all of us. If I see that he's the sound designer/mixer on an action movie I'll rent it no matter how bad I think the movie will be.

Btw, which 2 or 3 would say compare to WotW? Not trying to start an argument just genuinely curious as I haven't kept up with the best releases for the past year or so.

Tron Legacy and Flight of the Phoenix. Maybe Incredible Hulk 2008 and/or Cloverfield too.

Guys we got to come up with a new thread with "Updated Master List".

Thus thread is way too outdated and kind of solves no purpose coz there are a lot of new movies that can now be and absolutely should be added to the original list.

This thread is great but unfortunately has run it's course. There is good info in there but it's too segregated and we need a new thread with a new compilation.

This is my way of showing support to anyone who would come forward to start and regularly update a new thread.

Any volunteers to start a new thread...? :)

Guys we got to come up with a new thread with "Updated Master List".

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1333462

Thanks Wolf :)

Hang tight boys. I got to watch The Frankenstein Syndrome and the bass on it will give you a punch 1,2 & 3!!

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=18548

Can someone explain to me what "waterfalls" means?

I didn't read through every page. I did not see Incepetion, This BluRay is outstanding for bass. Pretty much the whole movie throughout has mass ammounts of bass. My desk upstairs shakes as well as our windows. It sounds like someone is riding by in a Suburban filled with 18" woofers. I'm using the PSB Subsonic8

I didn't read through every page. I did not see Incepetion, This BluRay is outstanding for bass. Pretty much the whole movie throughout has mass ammounts of bass. My desk upstairs shakes as well as our windows. It sounds like someone is riding by in a Suburban filled with 18" woofers. I'm using the PSB Subsonic8Inception is one of my least favorite LFE movies. It just sounds wrong. There's a lot of it, but it doesn't sound good in my room on my system. It has it's own unique sound from the sub that I don't find appealing at all.

The Inception that won the Oscar for Best Achievement in Sound Editing and Best Achievement in Sound Mixing?

Inception is one of my least favorite LFE movies. It just sounds wrong. There's a lot of it, but it doesn't sound good in my room on my system. It has it's own unique sound from the sub that I don't find appealing at all.

I totally agree my one room has 2 Paradigm sub 12 and the other has 2 Paradigm sub 2 and it just sounds weird.

Yep, I'm on board with Inception being an odd one...lots of bass? yes. But my room just doesn't work with whatever they were trying to accomplish. Maybe that's what they were after? unsettling awkwardness. :)

I'm ready to take the heat on this one. Justin Bieber's Never Say Never had an outstanding audio track as well as LFE. It was pounding!

Inception is one of my least favorite LFE movies. It just sounds wrong. There's a lot of it, but it doesn't sound good in my room on my system. It has it's own unique sound from the sub that I don't find appealing at all.

I know exactly what you are talking about Stephen. I have watched it 2 times now and the LFE is strange. Plenty of it, but its not very satisfying for some reason. Not one of my favorites for LFE either.

Out of topic question but where's the "show me your sub" thread gone? I thought I saw it stickied a couple of months ago. Or am I just blind?

^^

Here you go:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1075618&highlight=show+your+subwoofer

guys, i am in the process of finishing up 4 sealed subs and want to test them out with some good 10hz-20hz bass.

sorry, i know this a lazy question but could you tell me a few good scenes of the movies listed on the front page to test out? i just don't feel like going through all the movies i have to find good scenes.

here are the movies i have access to:

Blackhawk Down
The Dark Knight
The Incredible Hulk (2008
Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World
War of the Worlds
The Incredibles
Kung Fu Panda
Transformers
Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End
and a few others............

Incredible Hulk's sonic cannon scene (in slo-mo when he first gets hit by the sound energy), sweeps upward from around 11hz on up, at a very high level.

JSS

do you by chance remember what minute that is in the movie?

@smokarz...I can help with a couple...

M & C: Start at Chapter 4....
WOW: Start at Chapter 4 and watch through Chapter 6 to get you started...

thanks laugsbach, i'll give those a try.

War of the Worlds ch 9 lighting and airplane crash have plenty of 1-20hz bass and ch 14 hill battle have too(tank rounds, bazookas) 1-20hz shots.

Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End ch20 kalypso starts to transform have 11hz bass.

The Incredible Hulk, hulk takes forklift and hits it in wall is 15hz area, hulk is pumped at some medicine 3-25hz bass:eek:, abomination takes missile and hits head on it 10-15hz, hulk drops in helicopter and hits street 13-16hz, hulk grabs to the abomination chest and hits fist in his face 8-32hz, helicopter crashes to the roof, 15hz bass in impact part.

The Dark Knight:

Joker's baddies shoot wires to crash helicopter, 10-15hz shots.

Btw, there is new bass thread, this will closed soon.:)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1333462

I didn't realize those shots by the Joker's baddies was down that low. I haven't used REW, but do play a bit with my BFD. Since employing the filters I'm currently using, those shots are quite strong for me. An air pressure sort of thing.

Glad to hear you comment that they're that low. I feel better about how far I'm digging.

I didn't realize those shots by the Joker's baddies was down that low. I haven't used REW, but do play a bit with my BFD. Since employing the filters I'm currently using, those shots are quite strong for me. An air pressure sort of thing.

Glad to hear you comment that they're that low. I feel better about how far I'm digging.

I must say i was little wrong in that, the shots are actually in 14-26hz in hottest part. I should not put any info just by memory...sorry about that, my bad.:o:p

ohhhh, now you've gone and done it. :) Just kidding. That's one subtlety that came out with my current filters that I don't have without them. I use the impact of those shots as an audio cue to guage how I'm doing way down. I know, I know... measurements would be more than a "cue". I'm working on it. :)

I know, I know... measurements would be more than a "cue". I'm working on it. :)

Tony,

So; I assume you are still pursuing REW measurements? I am trying to join this club - have everything purchased only to find out I received an intermittent USB/sound-card/interface (the Behringer 202 would have been great but it seems I received a bad one). Looking at other options now ...

Are you have any measurement luck..?

Craig, I've got two local buddies with the equipment and we've just never gotten together to "get er done". I used REW from my laptop, but I don't think my sound card allows it to work properly and I use the RS meter as the mic. My buddy has the proper stuff. Any time now we'll take a stab at it.

I suggest at a minimum to employ those filters from Danley. They'll give you a much better result than no EQ at all. At least as an interim solution. It certainly reduced the immediacy for measurements in my room.

Craig, I've got two local buddies with the equipment and we've just never gotten together to "get er done". I used REW from my laptop, but I don't think my sound card allows it to work properly and I use the RS meter as the mic. My buddy has the proper stuff. Any time now we'll take a stab at it.

I suggest at a minimum to employ those filters from Danley. They'll give you a much better result than no EQ at all. At least as an interim solution. It certainly reduced the immediacy for measurements in my room.

Brief thread Hi-Jack:
I wish I had 2 Danleys to employ those filters with. However; I have only 3 lowly SVS cylinders, And one way (or another) I'm going to figure out how to REW this room :)
Now back to our regularly scheduled thread discussion

I'm having a real brain fart Craig??? I thought you had a Danley? Were'nt we going back and forth on PM about buying the Behringer and the filters that Danley recommended starting with? Forgive me....too much on my plate I suppose.

ok ..this thread is wayyyyy to long for me ;)

Can i get a top 10, or best of , .. Loudest and or lowest movies I dont car about overall SQ or surround .. just loud...

Right now Im at

WoTW
Cloverfield
Hulk ( 2008 )
Dark Knight
Kung Fu panda
Terminator Salvation
Serenity
Hurt locker
Iron man


Thats about all I have for descent LFE.. U571 is not there because i dont like the movie or the only 2 scenes with bass..


Is there a thread for only loud and low?

ok ..this thread is wayyyyy to long for me ;)

Can i get a top 10, or best of , .. Loudest and or lowest movies I dont car about overall SQ or surround .. just loud...

Right now Im at

WoTW
Cloverfield
Hulk ( 2008 )
Dark Knight
Kung Fu panda
Terminator Salvation
Serenity
Hurt locker
Iron man

Thats about all I have for descent LFE.. U571 is not there because i dont like the movie or the only 2 scenes with bass..

Is there a thread for only loud and low?

Just loud?

Fight Club tops my list. It is quite loud. Painful at times.

Other loud ones are Tron Legacy, Scott Pilgrim, Inglorious Basterds....

JSS

Just loud?

Fight Club tops my list. It is quite loud. Painful at times.

Other loud ones are Tron Legacy, Scott Pilgrim, Inglorious Basterds....

JSS



Ok.. Im gonna get hated on this.. BUT,,, I FINALLY just watched WoTW for the forst time ... Not that impressed.. Many other movies have just as much if not more LFE.. I dunno if its because this movie is now what 7 yrs old? Yea its awesome, But IMO ive felt more in Hulk and ironman...

My sub is a BFM THT, so Im pretty capable of hearing most of what there is to hear..

Dont hate me :(

Ok.. Im gonna get hated on this.. BUT,,, I FINALLY just watched WoTW for the forst time ... Not that impressed.. Many other movies have just as much if not more LFE.. I dunno if its because this movie is now what 7 yrs old? Yea its awesome, But IMO ive felt more in Hulk and ironman...

My sub is a BFM THT, so Im pretty capable of hearing most of what there is to hear..

Dont hate me :(

Compared to the LFE fest that Tron Legacy and other recent offerings boast, WOTW can seem that way. But WOTW has a lot of content that a THT will not do justice to below 20hz. I have 2 THTs, and I have no idea what is happening below 16hz.

THT does very well w/ films like terminator salvation, scott pilgrim and others like transformers and iron man (1&2 for both), that have most of the LFE power above 20hz.

JSS

Unstoppable is a good one, imo.

Live Free or Die Hard is pretty decent.

Compared to the LFE fest that Tron Legacy and other recent offerings boast, WOTW can seem that way. But WOTW has a lot of content that a THT will not do justice to below 20hz. I have 2 THTs, and I have no idea what is happening below 16hz.

THT does very well w/ films like terminator salvation, scott pilgrim and others like transformers and iron man (1&2 for both), that have most of the LFE power above 20hz.

JSS


Tron Legacy huh?? Just might have to do a blind buy on that one.. scott pilgrim? really? the same movie with the guy from superbad?

Tron Legacy huh?? Just might have to do a blind buy on that one.. scott pilgrim? really? the same movie with the guy from superbad?

Yup, really. Funny flick, good indie/garage music, great sound mixing (tons of low level background stuff going on), and hard hitting bass. 15-25hz is the wheelhouse, nearly perfect for a corner loaded THT (or two)....

As for Tron, i know that it has tons of content below 15hz, but i can't monitor it, it's outside the tht's passband, so it'll never pack the pressurization that the ib and multiple sealed guys get with it....good effects, the lightcycle scenes are great, but i thought the film overall left something to be desired. The disc duels weren't as impressive as i thought they would be...

JSS

keep up the good work :cool:

keep up the good work :cool:

nice to see you again DrPainMD :cool:

keep up the good work :cool:

Welcome back, Pain!

Where the hell have you been?!?! :p

keep up the good work :cool:

Hey keep up the good work :rolleyes:

Welcome back, Pain!

Where the hell have you been?!?! :p

away with real life issues greater than any forum

away with real life issues greater than any forum

Why the hostility? We all know this forum is just for fun and not a priority.

Why the hostility? We all know this forum is just for fun and not a priority.

MK,

DrP hit the wrong smilie....no hostility intended...

JSS

MK,

DrP hit the wrong smilie....no hostility intended...

JSS

I read that.

Did anyone ever make waterfalls of the animation movie "9"? I thought it had extreme LFE actually, was getting nervous about blowing out my maelstrom during that movie:)

Just added 52 more Blu Rays to my collection for $85 going out off business sale at Blockbuster so I will have a lot of watching to do to come up with some good LFE spots in movies.

what are waterfalls?

There was a "best scene" compilation bluray going around for demonstrating your system. Does anyone know who was selling that?

Search for "home theater demo disc version 2.0". It's got some some great LFE scenes

You need to add X-men: Origins to the list. Excellent LFE.

You need to add X-men: Origins to the list. Excellent LFE.

This thread is no more updated, new thread is below.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1333462

This thread is no more updated, new thread is below.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1333462

bump it

p.s anyone have a free sub they wanna give away? trying to get back into it

Hehehe, no but I can nudge you to DIY if you're interested. ;)

Welcome back...again. :)

Hehehe, no but I can nudge you to DIY if you're interested. ;)

Welcome back...again. :)

thanks, but i dont have tools or money

btw, what are people using now to make waterfalls?

Still using Spectrum Lab as far as I can tell.

thanks, but i dont have tools or money

btw, what are people using now to make waterfalls?


Is that really you DrPain! They've resurrected this thread and woken you up again! :cool:



Ian :D

Is that really you DrPain! They've resurrected this thread and woken you up again! :cool:



Ian :D

yah its me lol

i need a free subwoofer

Still using Spectrum Lab as far as I can tell.

dvd or bluray?

Both though mostly Blu-ray these days.

Both though mostly Blu-ray these days.

ok

i need help setting up speclab on my laptop, yes really i do