Kevin12586
02-18-08, 03:46 PM
How can anyone that has seen U-571 say to remove it from ANY best of bass movie list?
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View Full Version : The Master List of DVD, HD-DVD & Blu-ray Movies with BASS Thread...With WaterFalls Kevin12586 02-18-08, 03:46 PM How can anyone that has seen U-571 say to remove it from ANY best of bass movie list? Macfan424 02-18-08, 04:07 PM Top "50" "Must Have" BASS Movies (in progress)... ---- Total: 54 Either 4 have to go or make the top 50 a top 100? They are all deserving. Why not just alter the concept and call it a best of the best "Hall of Fame" rather than just locking in on an arbitrary number. New ones will come out that deserve inclusion too, but that doesn't mean the older ones are any less worthy as demo material. Just maintain this list's high standards and let it slowly grow as warranted. Kpt_Krunch 02-18-08, 04:20 PM I'm not a big fan of the bass in Matrix, it's OK, but how many of you use that movie to demo your bass, I sure don't. Close Encounters is another one, until the end there is no real bass in that movie that I would demo - great movie though. To remove 4 I would remove the following Close Encounters Matrix DareDevil The Fast and The Furious: Tokyo Drift There's better bass movies out there than those IMO, but hey, only because you gotta drop 4. Flageborg 02-18-08, 05:43 PM DareDevil has bass so deep..... - only the fewest can demonstrate - I'm one of them :) Mrkazador 02-18-08, 06:35 PM I recently saw Tokyo Drift and I have to agree, take it off the list. DrPainMD 02-18-08, 10:34 PM They are all deserving. Why not just alter the concept and call it a best of the best "Hall of Fame" rather than just locking in on an arbitrary number. New ones will come out that deserve inclusion too, but that doesn't mean the older ones are any less worthy as demo material. Just maintain this list's high standards and let it slowly grow as warranted. I like this idea better than a top 50 or top 100 Now the hard part is to come...rating them. Theres around 500 movies on the whole list. http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/5stars.gif http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/4.5stars.gif http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/4stars.gif http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/3.5stars.gif http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/3stars.gif http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/2.5stars.gif http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/2stars.gif http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/1.5stars.gif http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/1star.gif http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/halfstar.gif Kpt_Krunch 02-19-08, 01:54 AM DareDevil has bass so deep..... - only the fewest can demonstrate - I'm one of them :) It does? I've only seen it once on the movie channel - didn't like it much. Now I'm thinking about renting the thing. I just thought the movie was terrible. You sure there aren't any other movies out there with bass as good but watchable? :) mdk2007 02-19-08, 09:23 AM well i can agreed with the really low stuff in daredevil...pretty impressive stuff. I thought Fast and Furious had some nice bass throughout....while it is more music orientated...some of the racing stuff was great...maybe just me :) Ill still use the Balrog scene from LOTR to literally scare people :) I find it hard to get away from the top ten's for reference...nothing else really gets played! fumoffu 02-19-08, 10:59 AM well i can agreed with the really low stuff in daredevil...pretty impressive stuff. I thought Fast and Furious had some nice bass throughout....while it is more music orientated...some of the racing stuff was great...maybe just me :) I think the only real way to settle what should be in the top lists is some kind of waterfall shoot out :) mdk2007 02-19-08, 04:57 PM that is certainly one way to do it :) DrPainMD 02-19-08, 11:47 PM I think the only real way to settle what should be in the top lists is some kind of waterfall shoot out :) lets get ready to ruuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmbbbbllllle http://www.california-lims.com/miscimages/michealbuffer.jpg croseiv 02-20-08, 09:15 PM Playing around with a waterfall of a song by Bass Mekanik. The song is Machine Melt. This is the first two minutes of the song. It has some good bass at 20-30 Hz. DrPainMD, I hope it's okay to post this here. I just wanted to see how it looked. http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/croseiv/BassMekanik.jpg DrPainMD 02-20-08, 09:32 PM Playing around with a waterfall of a song by Bass Mekanik. The song is Machine Melt. This is the first two minutes of the song. It has some good bass at 20-30 Hz. DrPainMD, I hope it's okay to post this here. I just wanted to see how it looked. http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/croseiv/BassMekanik.jpg its fine, but lets see more movies :cool: anidabi 02-20-08, 11:43 PM its fine, but lets see more movies :cool: Why don't you make a thread for music waterfalls or some sub section in this thread. I like to show more music, there are tons of movies already, but no one is showing music waterfalls. Mrkazador 02-21-08, 12:53 AM I agree. A music waterfall thread would be awesome! DrPainMD 02-21-08, 06:44 AM Somewhat related: You want gunshots? Get Mr. Brooks. WOW. They gunshot audio in that movie is literally shocking. I am so glad I have an Ultra 13. :D Tim Yes, probaly the best damn realistic powerful gun shots I have heard ina movie yet. Totally awesome, play it too loaud and the neighbors may call the cops thinking it is that real. Almost scary real I alsmot ducked for cover.. :) Would be nice to see a waterfall of Mr.Brooks. DrPainMD 02-21-08, 06:44 AM Why don't you make a thread for music waterfalls or some sub section in this thread. I like to show more music, there are tons of movies already, but no one is showing music waterfalls. I'm pretty busy as it is, if you want you can start one. croseiv 02-21-08, 08:37 AM I agree. A music waterfall thread would be awesome! Yeah! I agree. :cool: DrPainMD 02-21-08, 02:53 PM Top DVD Movies With Bass - Rated (work in progress) Please Rate them as you like, I don't wont to be to the soul rating source. Don't forget that these are the "Best of the Best", so any lower than 3 stars means its not worthy of this list. http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/5stars.gif The Haunting Flight of the Phoenix The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring The Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World Pulse War of the Worlds http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/4.5stars.gif Blackhawk Down Casino Royale Domino Finding Nemo King Kong (2006) Hot Fuzz The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers Man on Fire Titan A.E. U-571 http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/4stars.gif Batman Begins Live Free or Die Hard Open Range http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/3.5stars.gif DareDevil The Fast and The Furious: Tokyo Drift Flags of Our Fathers The Incredibles The Matrix The Matrix Revolutions Monster House Mr. & Mrs. Smith Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End The Simpson's Movie Serenity Sunshine Superman Returns Transformers Underworld We Were Soldiers X-Men 3: The Last Stand xXx http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/3stars.gif Apocalypto The Chronicles of Riddick Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind Crimson Tide Fantastic 4 Fifth Element Ghost Rider Hellboy House Of Flying Daggers The Island Minority Report Poseidon Running Scared Sin City Stealth Smokin' Aces Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones OvalNut 02-21-08, 03:22 PM The following get 5 stars for BASS from me: - Titan A.E. - Domino Also, I saw the following wasn't on the list, I give it 3 stars for BASS: - Stealth I would bump Superman Returns down to 3 stars. Man on Fire gets at least 4, maybe even 5 stars. DrPainMD 02-21-08, 03:28 PM The following get 5 stars for BASS from me: - Titan A.E. - Domino Also, I saw the following wasn't on the list, I give it 3 stars for BASS: - Stealth I would bump Superman Returns down to 3 stars. Man on Fire gets at least 4, maybe even 5 stars. thanks I respect your judgement, if It was up to me to rate all of them, I give them what they don't deserve. I'm never satisfied when it comes to quality. I could go as far to add half stars? If things start to get to close. fumoffu 02-21-08, 04:49 PM Top DVD Movies With Bass - Rated (work in progress) Please Rate them as you like, I don't wont to be to the soul rating source. Don't forget that these are the "Best of the Best", so any lower than 3 stars means its not worthy of this list. http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/5stars.gif Hot Fuzz I am going to assume that we are bassing this on quantity of good bass. I this may cause me some disrespect but I would move Hot Fuzz down to 4 because I thought there was alot of poor uses, that almost made it annoying. I still think that this movie is great though! Has anyone seen Run Lola Run TrueHD Blu-ray recently. I just saw theBlu-ray edition last night, and I was really surprised in a coupe of points by the amount of bass. It has an great techno sound track. It got my pipe rattling at -21dB! Granted they seems to be only tuned to about 30-35Hz. Panoppolite 02-21-08, 10:54 PM Regarding "K-19 The Widowmaker" in the 5th chapter entitled "Crush Depth" About halfway through the chapter, the subsonic bass goes to near an 8K and 16K signal oscillating with a 2Hz carrier wave as they approach the submarine's technical depth limits. Very tough on subwoofers if not of the best quality. Can be felt quite dramatically and if the subs cover is off, you can see the woofer surround going back and forth while it vibrates furiously, but below hearing. mdk2007 02-22-08, 01:09 AM I would give Live Free or Die Hard at least 4 stars...just so impressed with everything about that movie from a sound perspective :) I think for sure transformers is a five star movie...anyone saying there isnt enough bass doesnt have the right equipment :) that movie was just awesome throughout...and of course the flip kicks some serious butt! just my thoughts for right now...i need to watch more on my system to get a feel!! :) lovin this thread fumoffu 02-22-08, 10:16 AM I think for sure transformers is a five star movie...anyone saying there isnt enough bass doesnt have the right equipment :) that movie was just awesome throughout...and of course the flip kicks some serious butt! just my thoughts for right now...i need to watch more on my system to get a feel!! :) I agree with the 3 star rating of Transformers. The Bass was good. That's why it's on the list! But it lacking low stuff, and there are many times when you think there should be more bass but it's us not there. The ending action scene is great, but I really expected more bass when the robots were walking. Looking at the waterfalls there is nothing that stands out the way a 4 or 5 start movie should. There is a lack of red below 30 Hz, much less pink or white. Please link to a water fall that you think should put it up there :) OvalNut 02-22-08, 10:44 AM The thing about Transformers is that, with a couple exceptions, there isn't much bass in the 20-30 hz range that we're used to look at for low bass. ... But, there is alot of bass BELOW 20 hz. That's where the earlier comment about you just have to have the right equipment to experience it comes from. For much of that movie, it felt like I was riding on a cushion of LFE, all tingly and endorphin producing but not really audible. Excellent bass! I do though also agree that in light of the storyline there could have been more in the 20-30 hz range, and that the robots' footsteps should have been much more crushing and room shaking, so I give it 4 stars for bass. Tim fumoffu 02-22-08, 11:02 AM The thing about Transformers is that, with a couple exceptions, there isn't much bass in the 20-30 hz range that we're used to look at for low bass. ... But, there is alot of bass BELOW 20 hz. That's where the earlier comment about you just have to have the right equipment to experience it comes from. For much of that movie, it felt like I was riding on a cushion of LFE, all tingly and endorphin producing but not really audible. Excellent bass! I do though also agree that in light of the storyline there could have been more in the 20-30 hz range, and that the robots' footsteps should have been much more crushing and room shaking, so I give it 4 stars for bass. Tim This are the waterfalls I can see to really support the sub 20 claim. Chap 11 (1:03:10) http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2386/1648968372_92d21c002f_o.jpg Chap 5 (0:22:25) http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2376/1648966068_c4b1367ae4_o.jpg jedi.night 02-22-08, 12:24 PM I agree with the 3 star rating of Transformers. The Bass was good. That's why it's on the list! But it lacking low stuff, and there are many times when you think there should be more bass but it's us not there. The ending action scene is great, but I really expected more bass when the robots were walking. Looking at the waterfalls there is nothing that stands out the way a 4 or 5 start movie should. There is a lack of red below 30 Hz, much less pink or white. Please link to a water fall that you think should put it up there :) I agree with your transformers opinion 100%. Kevin12586 02-22-08, 12:57 PM Transformers at 3 stars sounds right to me, I was actually disappointed with the minimum amount of bass, especially for a Michael Bay film :( fumoffu 02-22-08, 11:26 PM I just finished watching "Live Free or Die Hard" DTS-MA Blu-ray I'd give it http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/4stars.gif, I think. I'd love to see a water fall of the gas pipe scene and probably a couple others too! Kevin12586 02-23-08, 12:03 AM I just finished watching "Live Free or Die Hard" DTS-MA Blu-ray I'd give it http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/4stars.gif, I think. I'd love to see a water fall of the gas pipe scene and probably a couple others too! I agree, 4 stars sounds about right. There were a few very good bass scenes, and the guns sounded great, but I don't believe as far as bass goes, it should be rated higher than that. DrPainMD 02-23-08, 01:43 AM I love seeing all you folks rate these films! mdk2007 02-23-08, 12:50 PM 4 stars for Live Free sounds good...though i deff. think transfomers should be more than three stars but thats just me :) if you arent getting a back massage from the LFE then i think its time for a new sub(s) :) but really i thought it was at least 4 stars... thanks! fumoffu 02-23-08, 01:23 PM 4 stars for Live Free sounds good...though i deff. think transfomers should be more than three stars but thats just me :) if you arent getting a back massage from the LFE then i think its time for a new sub(s) :) but really i thought it was at least 4 stars... thanks! What scenes put it there? mdk2007 02-23-08, 02:36 PM For Transformers? Look at the list of waterfalls Dr. has made...i mean...the whole last 40 min were just awesome to watch...i the attack on the base was great...i mean maybe someone can back me up that this movie had some sick bass lol...i didnt think it was great until i upped my system and messed around with some EQ...then it became a different movie :) DrPain....is there anyway you can put a waterfall up for X-3 with the house scene?? i thoguth my house was going to lift off watching that...thanks!! Kevin12586 02-23-08, 04:30 PM DrPain....is there anyway you can put a waterfall up for X-3 with the house scene?? i thoguth my house was going to lift off watching that...thanks!! I need to rewatch that scene, I haven't watched it since I upgraded my system. :D SbWillie 02-23-08, 04:39 PM Rendition has some strong (-5)bass especially in what I will only call the tense interrogation lead-in and actual inter. scenes. WOrth checking out...I've already turned it in. I've been sick all week with this flu kraup and was too tired to finish it. jedi.night 02-24-08, 01:01 AM For Transformers? Look at the list of waterfalls Dr. has made...i mean...the whole last 40 min were just awesome to watch...i the attack on the base was great...i mean maybe someone can back me up that this movie had some sick bass lol...i didnt think it was great until i upped my system and messed around with some EQ...then it became a different movie :) DrPain....is there anyway you can put a waterfall up for X-3 with the house scene?? i thoguth my house was going to lift off watching that...thanks!! Actually it was very disappointing..the only decent bass was the "Ironhide" flip. And that lasted 5 or so seconds. IMO transformers was underwhelming and my PC-ULTRA and MBM-12 can attest to this.... DrPainMD 02-24-08, 09:30 AM DrPain....is there anyway you can put a waterfall up for X-3 with the house scene?? i thoguth my house was going to lift off watching that...thanks!! I don't have X3, sorry. DrPainMD 02-24-08, 09:48 AM Top DVD Movies With Bass - Rated (work in progress) Please Rate them as you like, I don't wont to be to the soul rating source. Don't forget that these are the "Best of the Best", so any lower than 3 stars means its not worthy of this list. http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/5stars.gif The Haunting Flight of the Phoenix The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring The Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World Pulse War of the Worlds http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/4.5stars.gif Blackhawk Down Casino Royale Domino Finding Nemo King Kong (2006) Hot Fuzz The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers Man on Fire Titan A.E. U-571 http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/4stars.gif Batman Begins Live Free or Die Hard Open Range http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/3.5stars.gif DareDevil The Fast and The Furious: Tokyo Drift Flags of Our Fathers The Incredibles The Matrix The Matrix Revolutions Monster House Mr. & Mrs. Smith Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End The Simpson's Movie Serenity Sunshine Superman Returns Transformers Underworld We Were Soldiers X-Men 3: The Last Stand xXx http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/3stars.gif Apocalypto The Chronicles of Riddick Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind Crimson Tide Fantastic 4 Fifth Element Ghost Rider Hellboy House Of Flying Daggers The Island Minority Report Poseidon Running Scared Sin City Stealth Smokin' Aces Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones SbWillie 02-24-08, 09:52 AM great work as always DP! one question: I thought everyone considered King Kong a LFE dud? Macfan424 02-24-08, 01:15 PM Please Rate them as you like, I don't wont to be to the soul rating source... I'm not suggesting anything because I can't really improve on your list. Great job! :cool: (But I think you mean "sole," not "soul." :p) NewOrlnsDukie 02-24-08, 02:03 PM Here we're seeing some of the difficulties in doing ratings. What are we looking for here? It's really a matter of whether we're rating things based on: 1) duration of hard-hitting bass or 2) those with the absolute lowest frequency (those w/ 20Hz and below) or 3) movies with a few scenes that are just truly world-class jarring, but otherwise doesn't have a lot of bass For example, I'd say that the closing sequences of Monster House and the Darla tank-tapping and submarine sequences of Finding Nemo can hang w/ the best of 'em, but large portions of the movie have very little bass. Then there are films like Apocalypto that have a lot of REALLY low stuff, but not a lot of the higher frequencies of LFE that make people think of a movie as a true bassheads movie. Then we have films like Transformers and Sunshine that give your sub a good workout (though Transformers really works the woofers on your spkrs more than your sub) just b/c of the duration of the LFE, but don't get ridiculously low. I truly have some trouble distinguishing which is 'more important,' b/c I think it would depend on your equipment and intent. If you've got a high spl sub that doesn't necessarily go that low and you just want a movie that allows you to feel your sub throughout, then Transformers is a great choice. If, however, you wanna have friends over or wanna check out yourself with the most impressive scenes, then you may be more interested in Finding Nemo. I don't know that there is a real 'answer' to this. I just wanted to put it out there as a reason we may have trouble reaching consensus on the relative merits of each. Kevin12586 02-24-08, 04:10 PM Here we're seeing some of the difficulties in doing ratings. What are we looking for here? It's really a matter of whether we're rating things based on: 1) duration of hard-hitting bass or 2) those with the absolute lowest frequency (those w/ 20Hz and below) or 3) movies with a few scenes that are just truly world-class jarring, but otherwise doesn't have a lot of bass For example, I'd say that the closing sequences of Monster House and the Darla tank-tapping and submarine sequences of Finding Nemo can hang w/ the best of 'em, but large portions of the movie have very little bass. Then there are films like Apocalypto that have a lot of REALLY low stuff, but not a lot of the higher frequencies of LFE that make people think of a movie as a true bassheads movie. Then we have films like Transformers and Sunshine that give your sub a good workout (though Transformers really works the woofers on your spkrs more than your sub) just b/c of the duration of the LFE, but don't get ridiculously low. I truly have some trouble distinguishing which is 'more important,' b/c I think it would depend on your equipment and intent. If you've got a high spl sub that doesn't necessarily go that low and you just want a movie that allows you to feel your sub throughout, then Transformers is a great choice. If, however, you wanna have friends over or wanna check out yourself with the most impressive scenes, then you may be more interested in Finding Nemo. I don't know that there is a real 'answer' to this. I just wanted to put it out there as a reason we may have trouble reaching consensus on the relative merits of each. I think if we all give reasons WHY we rate a movie somewhere we can have a discussion about it and reach a consensus. If I just say "X movie should be rated 3 stars" then ther is nothing much to discuss. But if I say "X movie should be rated 3 stars because......." then others can agree or disagree based on my reasoning. :) Mrkazador 02-24-08, 06:29 PM 30 Days of Night (Re-encode of Blu-Ray AC3) 00:22:00 - 00:23:10 Aaron and Gabe doing Rock, Paper, and Scissors. http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9308/89265470nu5.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=89265470nu5.jpg) This movie has 4 other scenes with sub 20hz bass. DrPainMD 02-25-08, 12:01 AM great work as always DP! one question: I thought everyone considered King Kong a LFE dud? I liked King Kong as a Movie, and it had very good BASS through out. I don't care what others think on this one, but maybe I'm bias towards it. DrPainMD 02-25-08, 12:03 AM I'm not suggesting anything because I can't really improve on your list. Great job! :cool: (But I think you mean "sole," not "soul." :p) Haha, yes I meant sole or soul, as in one's soul( inner body spirit). Late night drinking has that effect on grammer with me. :p DrPainMD 02-25-08, 12:14 AM Here we're seeing some of the difficulties in doing ratings. What are we looking for here? It's really a matter of whether we're rating things based on: 1) duration of hard-hitting bass or 2) those with the absolute lowest frequency (those w/ 20Hz and below) or 3) movies with a few scenes that are just truly world-class jarring, but otherwise doesn't have a lot of bass For example, I'd say that the closing sequences of Monster House and the Darla tank-tapping and submarine sequences of Finding Nemo can hang w/ the best of 'em, but large portions of the movie have very little bass. Then there are films like Apocalypto that have a lot of REALLY low stuff, but not a lot of the higher frequencies of LFE that make people think of a movie as a true bassheads movie. Then we have films like Transformers and Sunshine that give your sub a good workout (though Transformers really works the woofers on your spkrs more than your sub) just b/c of the duration of the LFE, but don't get ridiculously low. I truly have some trouble distinguishing which is 'more important,' b/c I think it would depend on your equipment and intent. If you've got a high spl sub that doesn't necessarily go that low and you just want a movie that allows you to feel your sub throughout, then Transformers is a great choice. If, however, you wanna have friends over or wanna check out yourself with the most impressive scenes, then you may be more interested in Finding Nemo. I don't know that there is a real 'answer' to this. I just wanted to put it out there as a reason we may have trouble reaching consensus on the relative merits of each. Nothing is written in stone here, so I'm taking the democratic way. The more votes wins. Let the chips fall where they lay, and I'll sort it out after the "trial" period of the ratings period. Like I stated it's a work in progress. I think if we all give reasons WHY we rate a movie somewhere we can have a discussion about it and reach a consensus. If I just say "X movie should be rated 3 stars" then ther is nothing much to discuss. But if I say "X movie should be rated 3 stars because......." then others can agree or disagree based on my reasoning. :) We can all argue till the cows come home.... P.S. I'm just trying to make this thread more interesting and helpful to others. I'm not judge and jury. tripleM 02-25-08, 01:29 AM Transformers at 3 stars sounds right to me, I was actually disappointed with the minimum amount of bass, especially for a Michael Bay film :( It starts early too ( lack of it that is) - ie scene that should have more bass but comes up limp: when the first helicopter robot attacks the US base. There was a pause for the robot to load up his weapon & when he launches into the 'small' arms fire, it is weak. I know there was capacity limitations with HD discs but even in DD+ it was limp. Flageborg 02-25-08, 05:24 AM Top DVD Movies With Bass - Rated by Flageborg Criteria: by amount of bass starting from 1Hz and up – and duration Hot Fuzz Live Free or Die Hard Flight of the Phoenix The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring The Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World Pulse War of the Worlds Mr. & Mrs. Smith Transformers Blackhawk Down Casino Royale Domino Finding Nemo Fantastic 4 Underworld X-Men 3: The Last Stand xXx The Chronicles of Riddick The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers Man on Fire Titan A.E. Serenity The Island The Haunting Batman Begins DareDevil Open Range The Incredibles We Were Soldiers The Matrix Revolutions The Fast and The Furious: Tokyo Drift Flags of Our Fathers Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones The Matrix Hellboy Monster House U-571 King Kong (2006) Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End The Simpson's Movie Sunshine Superman Returns Apocalypto Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind Crimson Tide Fifth Element Ghost Rider House Of Flying Daggers Minority Report Poseidon Running Scared Sin City Stealth Smokin' Aces SbWillie 02-25-08, 07:14 AM I liked King Kong as a Movie, and it had very good BASS through out. I don't care what others think on this one, but maybe I'm bias towards it.what I said was based on what I've heard to be honest...sub isn't appearing in my LR AOY.:( berty52 02-26-08, 02:55 PM What about Beowulf, is the LFE anygood?? DrPainMD 02-26-08, 11:30 PM what I said was based on what I've heard to be honest...sub isn't appearing in my LR AOY.:( whats LR AOY ? kweezr 02-27-08, 09:18 AM What about Beowulf, is the LFE anygood?? Many scenes have strong bass,I'll try and get some stamps tonight. jedi.night 02-27-08, 02:40 PM 30 Days of Night (Re-encode of Blu-Ray AC3) 00:22:00 - 00:23:10 Aaron and Gabe doing Rock, Paper, and Scissors. http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9308/89265470nu5.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=89265470nu5.jpg) This movie has 4 other scenes with sub 20hz bass. Just watched this the other night, Ton's of LFE. There might even be more that 4 scenes with sub 20hz bass, my glasses were rattling 20 feet away at my bar during some "quiet" scenes. Thumbs up for me. 4 possible 5 star LFE movie on Blu-Ray. berty52 02-27-08, 04:50 PM Many scenes have strong bass,I'll try and get some stamps tonight. Thank you Kweezr SbWillie 02-28-08, 07:47 PM whats LR AOY ?Living room as of yet.:rolleyes: DrPainMD 02-28-08, 09:36 PM Who ever mentioned the movie, DOA: Dead or Alive , Thanks. I just watched it last night on TV. It had some very frequent Bass ala Hot Fuzz. Maybe not as much but a reasonable amount. Don't know how low some of the stuff went, I wasn't able to play it very loud. Was an OK movie, worth it just for the girls fighting, some of which is like those modern kung fu movies, with all the flying using wires moves. jedi.night 02-29-08, 04:06 PM Who ever mentioned the movie, DOA: Dead on Arrival , Thanks. I just watched it last night on TV. It had some very frequent Bass ala Hot Fuzz. Maybe not as much but a reasonable amount. Don't know how low some of the stuff went, I wasn't able to play it very loud. Was an OK movie, worth it just for the girls fighting, some of which is like those modern kung fu movies, with all the flying using wires moves. I think you mean the Videogame turned movie, DOA meaning "Dead or Alive". Just a quick correction to avoid confusion. bgillyjcu 02-29-08, 10:11 PM Hey....Shoot Em Up DTS might need to be in the 4....maybe 4.5 star area. Some serious bass in that movie....the gun fire was sweet and punchy and it also had LOW couch shaking bass too! DrPainMD 02-29-08, 11:04 PM I think you mean the Videogame turned movie, DOA meaning "Dead or Alive". Just a quick correction to avoid confusion. Yah thats the one. DrPainMD 02-29-08, 11:04 PM Hey....Shoot Em Up DTS might need to be in the 4....maybe 4.5 star area. Some serious bass in that movie....the gun fire was sweet and punchy and it also had LOW couch shaking bass too! I'll make a note off that OvalNut 02-29-08, 11:22 PM You want crisp, accurate, punch a hole in your chest gunshots? Rent Mr. Brooks, and then let's talk. Though it is for sure a much bassier movie, Shoot 'Em Up DTS doesn't rank in the gunfire category in comparison. Tim Flageborg 03-01-08, 04:12 AM You want crisp, accurate, punch a hole in your chest gunshots? Rent Mr. Brooks, and then let's talk. How is the gunshots attack - comparing to THE shooting scene in Open Range ? OvalNut 03-01-08, 09:30 AM How is the gunshots attack - comparing to THE shooting scene in Open Range ? Better. Much better than that scene even. Really. If you've ever been to an indoor shooting range, that is the experience you get. Tim OvalNut 03-01-08, 09:32 AM We missed one: The Incredibles - 4 stars. Tim DrPainMD 03-01-08, 12:51 PM We missed one: The Incredibles - 4 stars. Tim for sure yah, I'll be revising the list tonight around midnight. mdk2007 03-01-08, 11:24 PM did anyone get a chance to see Jumper?? Im not gunna lie but the whole time in the theater i was thinking how awesome the bass was going to be for HD or regular DVD's :) DrPainMD 03-01-08, 11:38 PM Top DVD Movies With Bass - Rated (Work in Progress) ... Revised see first post: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=755493 anidabi 03-02-08, 11:45 AM Serenity only 3,5 stars? It should be at least 4 or 4,5 stars. Kevin12586 03-02-08, 12:09 PM The Incredibles is listed under both 3.5 and 4 stars. I believe it should be under 4 stars ;) pdadi 03-02-08, 12:10 PM I think incredibles is more bassy then finding nemo DiCecco 03-02-08, 01:57 PM I just watched my import HD-DVD of Under Siege 2 last night and can tell you that when the train wreck at the end happened my Epic Tower was shaking my whole house. For an old mvie I was impressed with LFE of this HD-DVD. DHabeck 03-02-08, 07:46 PM Any comments on Beowolf? Mostly the attack on the church (1:22:00-1:22:45)? It bottomed out my Ed A2-300, never heard the THUD! before. Not Transformers at -10, or Hot Fuzz at -10....or even WOW.....But this I had to drop to -17 to not bottom. jedi.night 03-02-08, 08:01 PM If we could get some waterfall charts of 30 days of Night, I'm pretty sure it will fall in the 5 star range. There was some seriously low LFE. Not so much that it was loud, but the "feel" type of Bass. Also one must have a sub that can go deep to fully appreciate.... jhixson 03-02-08, 08:57 PM Serenity only 3,5 stars? It should be at least 4 or 4,5 stars. I agree Serenity has some very good bass. Digital2004 03-03-08, 06:10 PM could the lfe of TRANSFORMERS DVD and hd dvd be compared ? if possible with the region 3 dvd which is very bassy and a lot more faithful to the master mix vs the r1/R2 dvd and hddvd ? Mrkazador 03-03-08, 06:57 PM 30 Days of Night (Re-encode of Blu-Ray AC3) http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1628/10630to10640im2.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10630to10640im2.jpg) 01:06:30 - 01:06:30 The group goes to some grocery store to pick up supplies and find a little girl. http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7512/11352to11440jz2.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11352to11440jz2.jpg) 01:13:52 - 01:14:40 Eben goes to grandmas house to distract the vampires. He starts the generator and flashes the light at one of them. foamfan 03-03-08, 09:12 PM Awesome compilation but there is one basshead movie that's missing: DAS BOOT, bass all over the place with very good acting and a great story. I love the DTS version in German. bori 03-03-08, 11:51 PM I watched 30 days of night and that had many scenes with good bass. Also if you are interested check out Solstice and Storm Warning these movies have many scenes with bass. I also did a comparision with Open Range and Mr. Brooks gunshot scenes and Mr. Brooks wins hands down for the best gunshot scene. TrinhTD 03-04-08, 12:45 PM I think "Assault on Precinct 13" should be on the list. Macfan424 03-04-08, 02:53 PM Awesome compilation but there is one basshead movie that's missing: DAS BOOT, bass all over the place with very good acting and a great story. I love the DTS version in German. I wondered how Das Boot failed to make the cutoff, too. MIkeDuke 03-04-08, 03:15 PM I wondered how Das Boot failed to make the cutoff, too. Probably because unless you know it, you don't think of it. It is an older movie(1981) that many people just don't have(I do). The list is mainly new(er) Special effect films. I happen to like Das Boot as well. SVS has it listed with three scenes on their website Depth Charges Scene 21(59:30) Storm Surfing Scene 25(1:15:15) Hitting Bottom Scene 17(53:15 side B) Flageborg 03-04-08, 06:00 PM I think "Assault on Precinct 13" should be on the list. That movie has nothing to do on a "bass list"! Flageborg 03-04-08, 06:02 PM I wondered how Das Boot failed to make the cutoff, too. It's a good movie, but the absent of bass explains why it's not on the list ;) Flageborg 03-04-08, 06:08 PM SVS has it listed with three scenes on their website Depth Charges Scene 21(59:30) Storm Surfing Scene 25(1:15:15) Hitting Bottom Scene 17(53:15 side B) It's an old list from SVS..............;) Macfan424 03-04-08, 06:14 PM It's a good movie, but the absent of bass explains why it's not on the list ;) Guess I never noticed its absence. :p (And, no, I don't just have a $100 sub. :)) MIkeDuke 03-04-08, 06:30 PM It's an old list from SVS..............;) I know. That list is kind of stale. I just thought I would post it, just becasue. But it is a very good movie. TrinhTD 03-04-08, 08:03 PM That movie has nothing to do on a "bass list"! There is a scene or 2 in that movie that caused my dual SVS CS-Ultras to bottomed. Shane Martin 03-04-08, 10:40 PM Mr Brooks was scary good. and I'm totally shocked Toy Story 2 isn't on that list. Flageborg 03-05-08, 07:19 AM There is a scene or 2 in that movie that caused my dual SVS CS-Ultras to bottomed. Do you have Time Stamps ? Chapter(s) ? Digital2004 03-05-08, 12:23 PM again if the waterfalls of Transformers can determined, that would be nice. there's an LFE issue somewhere... just played again for a client MINORITY REPORT track 8 and 9: Spielberg sound team is really amazing..... !!!!! Hellboy also has amazing bass. and BLADE 2. Del torro of course. let's hope Bay gives the correct master to Paramount for the blu ray edition. or i mean if Paramount does it job correctly... simon_templar_32 03-05-08, 09:13 PM I'm curious to know how many of these waterfall charts are for the LFE channel only, as opposed to the LFE channel plus redirected bass. I ask because it appears that some receivers suffer from an LFE hole problem, wherein setting a crossover chucks away/rolls off the upper part (> crossover point) of the LFE channel sent to the subwoofer. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=991439 Some of us are wondering how much would be lost with a crossover set at, say, 80Hz or 60Hz or ... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13305188#post13305188 Flageborg 03-06-08, 03:40 AM again if the waterfalls of Transformers can determined, that would be nice. Here's the PULSE-test scene from Transformers http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/Transformers_Pulse.JPG sound dropouts 03-06-08, 01:50 PM wow there are a lot of dts tracks in the top...are all the five star dts? MIkeDuke 03-06-08, 02:41 PM Not sure of the time, but in Transformers, right around the time when Blackout gets killed there seems to be something going on. Not sure how low it is or if it is low, but my room just shudders with this. It is unlike anything else I have felt. It could be nothing but if anybody can check this out, it would be cool. It is after the "pulse" scene. Maybe if the recording can start a little before he is killed to after? Mrkazador 03-06-08, 04:52 PM I just checked that scene and most of audio is around 30+. There is a few parts where it goes down to 15hz -25db. When Blackout falls down it goes down to 25hz at -10db. Flageborg 03-06-08, 04:54 PM Maybe if the recording can start a little before he is killed to after? Just give me start/stop time ;) simon_templar_32 03-06-08, 05:12 PM Here's the PULSE-test scene from Transformers Is this just the LFE channel or the LFE channel plus the redirected bass? Mrkazador 03-06-08, 05:18 PM Just give me start/stop time ;) Its around 02hrs 9min That is the start of the fight with Blackout. MIkeDuke 03-06-08, 06:43 PM Just give me start/stop time ;) Mrkazador has it about right. On my disk, it is during chap 21 arround 2:00-2:04, give or take I would just be intersted Thanks OvalNut 03-06-08, 07:19 PM I just rented and watched Das Boot, German soundtrack with subtitles, over the last 2 nights. It has a few moments, but I really wasn't overly impressed. Maybe 3 stars for bass, maybe. Great movie though. Tim DrPainMD 03-06-08, 07:59 PM Here's the PULSE-test scene from Transformers http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/Transformers_Pulse.JPG Mine was read straight from the DVD disk. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2245/1648969410_875721aa53_o.jpg I think this was my color pallete: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2310/2065545409_af95d50df9_o.jpg Mrkazador 03-06-08, 08:03 PM http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4311/83039868oy1.png http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7527/52473480te6.png Theres my graph, redirected bass 120hz. Bluray AC3 640. DrPainMD 03-06-08, 08:04 PM Mr Brooks was scary good. and I'm totally shocked Toy Story 2 isn't on that list. I'll add it to the 3 stars list, until others say it grants more. DrPainMD 03-06-08, 08:06 PM http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4311/83039868oy1.png Theres my graph. Bluray AC3 640. whats your color graph? Mrkazador 03-06-08, 08:11 PM Check my edit :) DrPainMD 03-06-08, 08:14 PM Check my edit :) checked ;) DrPainMD 03-06-08, 08:18 PM I wonder if there is any way to all of us to have the "EXACT" color pallet? this has bothered me from day one. Theres 3 variables to consider: Brightness, Contrast and the Color Scheme chosen (when you left click on the colored bars). Mrkazador 03-06-08, 10:06 PM I figured out how everyone can use the same color scheme. If we all agree on my setup :) Purple= 0db White-ish Pink= -10db Dark Red= -20db Extract the attached file (SETTINGS.zip) to the install folder of Spectrum Lab. Default is C:\Spectrum Cool thing about this is the settings.ini configures everything for you so you don't have to look at kweezr's Spec Lab Settings: View Here (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/spectrum%20lab/?sc=1) If you can add this post to the first page it would be easier to setup. This being if we all agree on my setup :) SbWillie 03-06-08, 11:49 PM dark red at -20..whitish pink @-10 to purple at 0...some charts here are misleading if the reds are much lower than -20. anidabi 03-07-08, 03:18 AM I figured out how everyone can use the same color scheme. If we all agree on my setup :) Purple= 0db White-ish Pink= -10db Dark Red= -20db That was my setup for a long time, but now I thik that it's better if purple is -10dB, White-ish Pink -20dB and Dark Red around -30dB. Actually, kweezr has the same setup. That way you can see the white-ish pink more often. What I'm trying to say is that the -10dB is very rare and if pink is at -10dB, all you are going to see in the graphs is dark red and some rare occasion pink. The graphs are not as clear if the pink is at -10dB. anidabi 03-07-08, 03:25 AM Oh my god, none of you think that Harry Potter: Order of The Phoenix doesn't belong to the bass list? :eek: That movie should be at least in the four star league. Flageborg 03-07-08, 04:24 AM Not sure of the time, but in Transformers, right around the time when Blackout gets killed there seems to be something going on. Here it seems to be something going on..........;) http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/Transformers_BlackOutFight.JPG Flageborg 03-07-08, 05:06 AM Here is an example how you can calibrate level and color Use this track: http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/System_BurnIn.mp3 to get this picture: http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/Waterfall_calibrate_level_color.JPG MIkeDuke 03-07-08, 07:27 AM Thanks for that chart Flageborg. Does not look too bad to me:). It feels quite nice also when cranked in my room:D. The shudder for me happens right after that last slide. But the entire scene is good for me. Digital2004 03-07-08, 05:36 PM thanks for the transformers charts but can it be verified if indeed the bass are often more mixed in the front channels than in the LFE ? otk 03-08-08, 12:33 AM thanks for the transformers charts but can it be verified if indeed the bass are often more mixed in the front channels than in the LFE ? in the movie "Pulse", the pulse actually starts out in the front channels and when she opens the door, the LFE channel takes over SbWillie 03-09-08, 12:12 AM The Invasion(HD DVD): ch.1-2 (00:07-2:03 ) 7 Hz,12 Hz,1 Hz, 3 Hz (@-5):eek: ch. 2 (3:55) 16 Hz ch. 2 (5:37) ch. 4 (11:33-13:33) 5 Hz,8 @ -5 (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/TheInvasionch.jpg) ch. 6 (18:18-19:09) ch. 8 (21:45-22:1) ch. 9 (25:23-55) 1 Hz ch.10 ( 31:25-33:08) 2 Hz throughout ch.11 (34:06-34:33) (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/TheInvasionch11X43.jpg) ch.11 (35:35-36:24) 1 Hz (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/TheInvasionch11X43.jpg) ch.11 (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/TheInvasionch11Y.jpg) ch.14 (43:10-45:00) " ch.14,etc (46:37- (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/TheInvasionch11X45.jpg)on and on)..too many to list! :eek::D heja 03-09-08, 01:29 AM The Invasion(BR): ch.1-2 (00:07-2:03 ) 7 Hz,12 Hz,1 Hz, 3 Hz (@-5):eek: ch. 2 (3:55) 16 Hz ch. 2 (5:37) ch. 4 (11:33-13:33) 5 Hz,8 @ -5 ch. 6 (18:18-19:09) ch. 8 (21:45-22:1) ch. 9 (25:23-55) 1 Hz ch.10 ( 31:25-33:08) 2 Hz throughout ch.11 (34:06-34:33) ch.11 (35:35-36:24) 1 Hz ch.14 (43:16-45:00) " ch.14,etc (36:37-on and on)..too many to list! :eek::D !!!! Anyone made waterfalls yet? MIkeDuke 03-09-08, 10:41 AM Here it seems to be something going on..........;) http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/Transformers_BlackOutFight.JPG Thanks again. If you could do me one more favor? The part that I am really interested in is right after that last picture you show. It is the part where he actually falls on the ground. Could you run another sweep from the point he gets blasted to the point where he is on his back? DrPainMD 03-09-08, 10:49 AM I figured out how everyone can use the same color scheme. If we all agree on my setup :) Purple= 0db White-ish Pink= -10db Dark Red= -20db Extract the attached file (SETTINGS.zip) to the install folder of Spectrum Lab. Default is C:\Spectrum Cool thing about this is the settings.ini configures everything for you so you don't have to look at kweezr's Spec Lab Settings: View Here (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/spectrum%20lab/?sc=1) If you can add this post to the first page it would be easier to setup. This being if we all agree on my setup :) cool, excellent job! What do others think? SbWillie 03-09-08, 10:58 AM I like it uhh lot. By the way..THe Invasion isn't a great movie...I was surprised it squeezed out as a PG 13. Not gonna be in my collection for sure (BB rental). I would say 2/3 of the movie had sub 30 Hz bass hitting -30 or better(to -5). Very little of it was action related (gunshots,explosions) (added links to previous time stamp post!) The Invasion ch. 4 `session': http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/TheInvasionch.jpg ch. 11: http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/TheInvasionch11.jpg ch.14 http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/TheInvasionch11X45.jpg Flageborg 03-09-08, 11:46 AM cool, excellent job! What do others think? Great. Let's establish a Waterfall-standard. Put the settings.ini file in first post. BUT, I tried Mkazadors settings file, and to me it looks like a mismatch regarding his edited post #1104. Anyway - I would prefer NOT to use same color for different part of the scale. So far the settings file must be adjusted...... Have a look at this....... SbWillie 03-09-08, 11:58 AM or http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/colorchart.jpg ;) dark purple near `5 going into 0 does sound good though. Mrkazador 03-09-08, 04:18 PM Flageborg, I believe my new color scheme is much better than the old (thx SbWillie!). It would be nice if everyone had the same color scheme but as long as the user posts his color scheme with the waterfall everything is fine. Even then, if people don't want to use my color scheme they can use the settings.ini to configure everything for them. They can change the colors after. SbWillie 03-09-08, 04:40 PM np DrPainMD 03-09-08, 10:28 PM The Invasion(HD DVD): ch.1-2 (00:07-2:03 ) 7 Hz,12 Hz,1 Hz, 3 Hz (@-5):eek: ch. 2 (3:55) 16 Hz ch. 2 (5:37) ch. 4 (11:33-13:33) 5 Hz,8 @ -5 (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/TheInvasionch.jpg) ch. 6 (18:18-19:09) ch. 8 (21:45-22:1) ch. 9 (25:23-55) 1 Hz ch.10 ( 31:25-33:08) 2 Hz throughout ch.11 (34:06-34:33) (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/TheInvasionch11X43.jpg) ch.11 (35:35-36:24) 1 Hz (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/TheInvasionch11X43.jpg) ch.11 (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/TheInvasionch11Y.jpg) ch.14 (43:10-45:00) " ch.14,etc (46:37- (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/TheInvasionch11X45.jpg)on and on)..too many to list! :eek::D great work ! thanks DrPainMD 03-11-08, 07:28 PM updated... Top DVD Movies With Bass - Rated (Work in Progress) http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/5stars.gif The Haunting Flight of the Phoenix Hot Fuzz The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring The Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World Pulse War of the Worlds http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/4.5stars.gif Blackhawk Down Domino Finding Nemo Live Free or Die Hard Man on Fire Titan A.E. http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/4stars.gif 30 Days of Night 300 Casino Royale The Chronicles of Riddick Fantastic 4 Harry Potter: Order of The Phoenix The Incredibles The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers Mr. Brooks Mr. & Mrs. Smith Open Range Serenity Shoot 'Em Up Transformers U-571 Underworld X-Men 3: The Last Stand xXx http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/3.5stars.gif Batman Begins DareDevil The Fast and The Furious: Tokyo Drift Flags of Our Fathers King Kong (2006) The Matrix The Matrix Revolutions Monster House Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End The Simpson's Movie Sunshine Superman Returns We Were Soldiers http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/3stars.gif Apocalypto Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind Crimson Tide DOA: Dead Or Alive Fifth Element Ghost Rider Hellboy House Of Flying Daggers The Island Minority Report Poseidon Running Scared Sin City Stealth Smokin' Aces Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones Toy Story 2 SbWillie 03-11-08, 09:43 PM Bee Movie: ch.1 (5:31) 8Hz ch.1 (6:42) ch.4 (14:20-19:15) 7 HZ, 2 Hz 6 Hz,0 Hz, :D ch.4 is a demo chapter!:D ch.6 (31:08) etc. OvalNut 03-11-08, 10:01 PM COOL! Gotta love Bass Heavy Children's DVD Selections (http://www.hometheaterspot.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/125760/post/737983/#737983) :D Tim froggyliver 03-12-08, 12:13 AM Are certain movies better with certain subs? Obi-UWS 03-12-08, 02:50 AM Where is Blade Runner "The Final Cut"?Great bass in True HD.:) Pibbo 03-12-08, 03:00 AM So I got my Hsu VTF-2 Mk3 today (see here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13353647#post13353647)), and it's AWESOME! My room is pretty small so it's able to shake things with ease. I haven't come close to straining it yet, but it sure is straining my room. :D I noticed there's no entry for Ghost In The Shell 2: Innocence. It's filled with deep bass and today I really experienced it proper. These are my first waterfalls, so maybe you could help me interpret them. My color scale probably isn't perfect. I played the DVD on my computer in WMP11 with system volume at 100% and the player at 16%. Ghost In The Shell 2: Innocence (DVD-DD): Chapter 1 (1:00 - 2:45) City of the FUTURE! http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7969/capt01oq6.jpg The first purple lines around 20Hz are when a helicopter does a fly-by. It FELT awesome. Chapter 1 (3:45 - 5:25) Alley brawl http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8358/capt02vr8.jpg For visual aid: http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3184/explosionvk1.jpg Chapter 7 (33:50 - 36:30) Yakuza shootout http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5263/capt03qn0.jpg Lots of guns Chapter 7 (36:45 - 38:45) Cyborg battle http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4669/capt04cm9.jpg Grenades, automatic pistols, giant scissors, you name it Chapter 12 (1:08:00 - 1:09:40) Togusa freaks out http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8822/capt05dn1.jpg Lots of stuff exploding Well, that's the notable stuff for me. There's a lot of bass throughout the whole movie though. croseiv 03-13-08, 09:11 PM I'm surprised Monster's Inc isn't in the Top List (especially since seeing Toy Story 2 is). There's numerous loud and deep bass scenes in that movie. There's one scene akin to the Darla scene when the huge monster crosses the street early in the movie. Some explosive bass there. And when there's power surges (screams). SbWillie 03-13-08, 09:32 PM yes but they are very sporadic. croseiv 03-13-08, 09:34 PM yes but they are very sporadic. So are they in Toy Story 2... ZO6KLR 03-14-08, 01:06 AM Might as well add Slingblade to the list. I watched it last night and things were moving. The beginning of the movie when Carl is reflecting on the killing of his mother and Jesse Dixon is probably the best. MIkeDuke 03-14-08, 09:42 AM Might as well add Slingblade to the list. I watched it last night and things were moving. The beginning of the movie when Carl is reflecting on the killing of his mother and Jesse Dixon is probably the best. UMM HMM. SlingBlade:) DrPainMD 03-14-08, 12:25 PM I'm surprised Monster's Inc isn't in the Top List (especially since seeing Toy Story 2 is). There's numerous loud and deep bass scenes in that movie. There's one scene akin to the Darla scene when the huge monster crosses the street early in the movie. Some explosive bass there. And when there's power surges (screams). maybe because its called...."a work in progress"? thats why...:rolleyes: TrinhTD 03-14-08, 01:08 PM Someone please check out Hitman. landshark1 03-14-08, 04:34 PM Someone please check out Hitman. yeah, it does seem to have some good bass. :) croseiv 03-14-08, 07:44 PM I'd personally give Monster's Inc. 3.5 stars, but I guess I'm in the minority here. I certainly didn't intend to piss any one off.:p DrPainMD 03-15-08, 02:13 AM I'd personally give Monster's Inc. 3.5 stars, but I guess I'm in the minority here. I certainly didn't intend to piss any one off.:p you didn't piss me off (if I did )... I give all new candidates the 3 star minimum until the majority votes it higher on the top list. mailiang 03-15-08, 11:59 AM Someone please check out Hitman. Hit Man! DTS Lots of action and lots a bass! The whole movie has plenty of bass content. You're going to have create something close to the size of Niagara Falls to chart this one.;) Ian :D REVNU 03-17-08, 02:36 AM Hit Man! DTS Lots of action and lots a bass! The whole movie has plenty of bass content. You're going to have create something close to the size of Niagara Falls to chart this one.;) Ian :D Hitman definitely gave my STF-2 a nice workout. I had it cranked up in my tiny 10' x 10' game room, thought it was gonna pop a window out since the room is totally sealed once the door is closed. :eek: MUCHO 03-17-08, 02:39 AM Yup was just coming on here to see if someone had hitman yet. It reminds me of Hot Fuzz only not quite so hot and of course Hitman is trying to be serious. :D:D:D alexg75 03-17-08, 05:10 AM Bee Movie: ch.1 (5:31) 8Hz ch.1 (6:42) ch.4 (14:20-19:15) 7 HZ, 2 Hz 6 Hz,0 Hz, :D ch.4 is a demo chapter!:D ch.6 (31:08) etc. Oh I most defintely agree with you here. OvalNut 03-17-08, 10:05 AM Agreed on The Bee Movie. The scene with the tennis balls was excellent. It gives you that heebie-geebie atmospheric ultra-low bass. I would have liked the bass in that scene to be recorded a couple db hotter perhaps, but it's still excellent as is. It really set the mood and made you feel as small as a bee. Tim SbWillie 03-17-08, 07:00 PM The bass in the first beekeeper scene may have been too overcooked though (view over the brim of the hat). gverde 03-18-08, 02:59 PM Beowulf also has a lot of bass throughout the movie. I was watching it the other day and my sub was really getting a workout. mailiang 03-18-08, 04:29 PM Beowulf also has a lot of bass throughout the movie. I was watching it the other day and my sub was really getting a workout. True. But the output levels could have been a bit hotter. Ian Obi-UWS 03-18-08, 07:37 PM Another for your consideration. "The Frighteners" on HD-DVD. 4 Stars IMHO. DrPainMD 03-19-08, 07:58 AM Another for your consideration. "The Frighteners" on HD-DVD. 4 Stars IMHO. having trouble seeing some of your text. I'm using the retro color scheme. DrPainMD 03-19-08, 08:00 AM March 19, 2008 Added: "Bee Movie" 1. Chap 1 (0:05:31) 8Hz 2. Chap 1 (0:06:42) 3. Chap 4 (0:14:20 - 0:19:15) 7Hz, 2Hz 6Hz, 0Hz 4. Chap 6 (0:31:08) "Ghost In The Shell 2: Innocence" 1. City of the Future, Chap 1 (0:01:00 - 0:02:45) WaterFall (http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7969/capt01oq6.jpg) 2. Alley Brawl, Chap 1 (0:03:45 - 0:05:25) WaterFall (http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8358/capt02vr8.jpg) 3. Yakuza Shootout, Chap 7 (0:33:50 - 0:36:30) WaterFall (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5263/capt03qn0.jpg) 4. Cyborg Battle, Chap 7 (0:36:45 - 0:38:45) WaterFall (http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4669/capt04cm9.jpg) 5. Togusa Freaks Out, Chap 12 (1:08:00 - 1:09:40) WaterFall (http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8822/capt05dn1.jpg) Hitman SE DTS Blu-ray Slingblade DrPainMD 03-19-08, 08:02 AM Great. Let's establish a Waterfall-standard. Put the settings.ini file in first post. Which .ini have we all agreed upon? jedi.night 03-19-08, 10:06 AM True. But the output levels could have been a bit hotter. Ian agreed. Obi-UWS 03-19-08, 11:34 AM having trouble seeing some of your text. I'm using the retro color scheme. Sorry Dr. I'll leave text alone this time and hope its OK. I would add "The Frighteners" the director's cut on HD DVD to the list. Great bass IMHO 4 stars. squidboy 03-19-08, 03:06 PM "Bee Movie" 1. Chap 1 (0:05:31) 8Hz 2. Chap 1 (0:06:42) 3. Chap 4 (0:14:20 - 0:19:15) 7Hz, 2Hz 6Hz, 0Hz 4. Chap 6 (0:31:08) Wouldn't 0 Hz be no sound at all? penngray 03-19-08, 04:57 PM Wouldn't 0 Hz be no sound at all? there is actually no sound below 20 Hz ;) Just vibration you can feel and other things will rattle in the room (that you can hear). SbWillie 03-19-08, 06:55 PM I say just post the schemes with the color graph..since everyone differs on how it should look. DrPainMD 03-19-08, 07:14 PM I say just post the schemes with the color graph..since everyone differs on how it should look. or green starts @ -60, red at -30 to dark red @ -20, pink @10 and dark purple @ 0...is my idea.;);) if green starts at -70 then theres way to much green smeared on the charts thereby diluting the charts.Roughly half the charts have this color scheme. make up your mind? lol just teasing yah for editing your post.... I do it all the time SbWillie 03-20-08, 12:30 AM ouch SbWillie 03-20-08, 01:10 AM I am Legend Blu-Ray: ch. 3 (7:45-7:53) 10 Hz ch. 3 (12:08) ch. 7 (26:08-26:50) 1Hz (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch7.jpg) ch.12 (42:22-44:16) -5 stuff (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch12.jpg) ch.13 (47:25-30,48:02-12) ch. 14 (52:15-53:30) 3 Hz (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch1443.jpg) ch.17/18 (1:01:07-1:04:54) 3Hz ch.23 (1:21:00-1:24:15) ch. 24 (1:25:20-1:30:14) ch. 14's got cut off sorry. plenty more but these were the 3 I decided to link. MIkeDuke 03-20-08, 08:31 AM I am Legend Blu-Ray: ch. 3 (7:45-7:53) 10 Hz ch. 3 (12:08) ch. 7 (26:08-26:50) 1Hz (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch7.jpg) ch.12 (42:22-44:16) -5 stuff (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch12.jpg) ch.13 (47:25-30,48:02-12) ch. 14 (52:15-53:30) 3 Hz (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch1443.jpg) ch.17/18 (1:01:07-1:04:54) 3Hz ch.23 (1:21:00-1:24:15) ch. 24 (1:25:20-1:30:14) ch. 14's got cut off sorry. plenty more but these were the 3 I decided to link. Chap 7 looks sick:D. Thanks Kevin12586 03-20-08, 08:35 AM I am Legend Blu-Ray: ch. 3 (7:45-7:53) 10 Hz ch. 3 (12:08) ch. 7 (26:08-26:50) 1Hz (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch7.jpg) ch.12 (42:22-44:16) -5 stuff (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch12.jpg) ch.13 (47:25-30,48:02-12) ch. 14 (52:15-53:30) 3 Hz (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch1443.jpg) ch.17/18 (1:01:07-1:04:54) 3Hz ch.23 (1:21:00-1:24:15) ch. 24 (1:25:20-1:30:14) ch. 14's got cut off sorry. plenty more but these were the 3 I decided to link. This look like it is going to be a FUN movie to watch ;) Dave_6 03-20-08, 09:01 AM This look like it is going to be a FUN movie to watch ;) I enjoyed it. Too bad my Velo DPS-10 doesnt do the LOW frequency stuff :( mailiang 03-20-08, 12:33 PM I enjoyed it. Too bad my Velo DPS-10 doesnt do the LOW frequency stuff :( Your Velo will reach 20hz, but gives up a lot of distortion at high volume levels.(29%@98db@1ft) However if you have a small space with some decent room gain, and you're looking for some of the deeper stuff, your output levels at 20hz or so may be enough. Ian Dave_6 03-20-08, 01:30 PM Well its in a BIG room; 10 ft vaulted ceiling, opens up into a kitchen and another hallway. Its too much space for the little sub :( Scottfox 03-20-08, 03:31 PM What subs to Y'all have that let you hear (feel) frequencies below 10Hz?? I have an HSU 2.3 that is rated down to 18Hz in room. I can't imagine it putting out anything useful below 10Hz. Is it just going to force the sub into extreme excursions causing damage, or will it do something useful? SbWillie 03-20-08, 06:38 PM it was edited as soon as I clicked `post'...oh well...I'm fine with something new on the color chart. My whites will become purple based on past charts. I wish I had my HT when we watched `I am Legend'..the evac sequence at the bridge would've brought the house down. SbWillie 03-20-08, 06:41 PM What subs to Y'all have that let you hear (feel) frequencies below 10Hz?? I have an HSU 2.3 that is rated down to 18Hz in room. I can't imagine it putting out anything useful below 10Hz. Is it just going to force the sub into extreme excursions causing damage, or will it do something useful?I've only come across one or 2 peeps here who have DIY subs that can go below ten..and then there's a fan sub thing that can push 5HZ for around $5,000! I'm getting a Ultra so mid-teens near field will be attainable.Wife won't allow the house to be torn apart with all of her decor up. mailiang 03-20-08, 06:59 PM Well its in a BIG room; 10 ft vaulted ceiling, opens up into a kitchen and another hallway. Its too much space for the little sub :(:eek: Time for an upgrade! ;) Ian :D mdk2007 03-20-08, 10:19 PM could someone do me a huge favor and make a waterfall for chapter 10 on Xmen 3 when the house is coming a part?? that is one of my favorite scenes to show off and i would love to know what type of material there is in there....btw i watched Man on Fire DTS and wow!! i can understand why it got 4.5 stars! sick movie! thanks! Ben Dave_6 03-21-08, 08:24 AM :eek: Time for an upgrade! ;) Ian :D No kidding :D I think I need one of those Seaton subs to help with the big space :eek: MIkeDuke 03-21-08, 08:47 AM No kidding :D I think I need one of those Seaton subs to help with the big space :eek: No doubt:D lalakersfan34 03-21-08, 01:21 PM What subs to Y'all have that let you hear (feel) frequencies below 10Hz?? I have an HSU 2.3 that is rated down to 18Hz in room. I can't imagine it putting out anything useful below 10Hz. Is it just going to force the sub into extreme excursions causing damage, or will it do something useful? I'd doubt many people here are actually getting a perceivable 10hz and below. You're looking at massive DIY or IB subs to accomplish that. It looks cool on the waterfalls, but the vast majority of people aren't going to even notice that it's there. I'm good to about 15hz in-room, and I don't feel like I'm missing much at all. As for your Hsu, the amp has a high pass filter that starts to steeply roll off frequencies below the tuning point. This will protect the woofer from over excursion. Incidentally, you know how the amp has a toggle depending on which tune you're using? That is what sets the high pass filter. This is also why Hsu warns to make sure that you use the correct setting depending on whether or not you're using a port plug. If you leave the filter set at a lower frequency in max output mode, you COULD damage your sub. JBLsound4645 03-21-08, 06:32 PM could someone do me a huge favor and make a waterfall for chapter 10 on Xmen 3 when the house is coming a part?? that is one of my favorite scenes to show off and i would love to know what type of material there is in there....btw i watched Man on Fire DTS and wow!! i can understand why it got 4.5 stars! sick movie! thanks! Ben Oh I know that scene like the back of my hand. Mostly peaks with in-room response on my Technics SH-8055 at 25Hz when things slow down as Wolverine struggles to open the sliding doors then BOOM! The house landing or rather impacting was around or near to 120dbc at my last home. I’ll have to play that scene out again and see how it does on a concrete floor rather than a wooden floor.:cool: there is actually no sound below 20 Hz ;) Just vibration you can feel and other things will rattle in the room (that you can hear). Try placing your finger tips on the cone while playing sine wave tone. I tried a few in the past from the Denon Hi-Fi Check CD CO-75046 produced (1992) tones like 4Hz 8Hz 16Hz 32Hz 62Hz and 125Hz the infersoinc ones just move my hand up and down. The audible tones felt uncomfortable like 62Hz just buzzed the hell out of my whole arm after several minutes it had tinkling feeling, kinder like [white finger] when minors are drilling with heavy machinery in the mines. mdk2007 03-22-08, 03:51 PM sooo i just watched the crash scene from Flight of the Phoenix and i damn near wet myself! WOW!! I seriously thought my house was going to come a part! Deff going to be my new demo for people :) just thought ya'll should know! Love this forum JBLsound4645 03-22-08, 06:16 PM sooo i just watched the crash scene from Flight of the Phoenix and i damn near wet myself! WOW!! I seriously thought my house was going to come a part! Deff going to be my new demo for people :) just thought ya'll should know! Love this forum I bet you did with some mild 25Hz peaks then suddenly rising without waning with high peaks! What’s cool is the electrical storm the static sound buzzes all-around the room kinder fooled me, into thinking I’m overloading the centre back and sidewall surrounds. Takes a bit of getting used to it does with Flight of the Phoenix.:D mdk2007 03-22-08, 06:20 PM yeah its like on a whole other level! everything is so viceral...like everything...just a pleasure to watch really...cant wait to watch with 4 18's :)...i cant believe it took me so long to get this movie! *there was one part where my jar dropped...and i have Master...WOTW...LOTR's...Nemo (though Darla is ridiculous)...and when it was a steady 28-29hz around 15min or so and then it dropped down really low...just amazing. reminded me of Spidey 3 particle, but 12 times better :) Pibbo 03-22-08, 09:47 PM So where's "I Am Legend" on here? Just watched it and there's lots of very deep and visceral bass. One large explosion near the end almost seemed to lift my own room off its foundation. Pretty good flick too (with the alternate ending). SbWillie 03-22-08, 10:44 PM here u go:I am Legend Blu-RayHD DVD: ch. 3 (7:45-7:53) 10 Hz ch. 3 (12:08) ch. 7 (26:08-26:50) 1Hz (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch7.jpg) ch.12 (42:22-44:16) -5 stuff (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch12.jpg) ch.13 (47:25-30,48:02-12) ch. 14 (52:15-53:30) 3 Hz (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch1443.jpg) ch.17/18 (1:01:07-1:04:54) 3Hz ch.23 (1:21:00-1:24:15) ch. 24 (1:25:20-1:30:14) The botched family evac. scene(ch.12) had the strong (dbwise) bass.http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch12.jpg ch. 14's got cut off sorry. plenty more but these were the 3 I decided to link.not near as deep as the famous `Irene' sequence but solid. otk 03-23-08, 11:31 PM i just saw the movie August Rush on dvd there is a short scene chapter 21 (1 hour 13 minutes in) were this boy prodigy wonders into a church and sits down at the pipe organ. he's playing around with the keys but nothing is sounding until he presses in one of the preset buttons that activates the pipes and he presses down on one of the bass pedals for a second and it shook my whole room then he starts playing for about a minute and there's lots of bass coming from the pipe organ it's a short but powerful scene and a pretty good movie too bori 03-24-08, 12:35 PM So where's "I Am Legend" on here? Just watched it and there's lots of very deep and visceral bass. One large explosion near the end almost seemed to lift my own room off its foundation. Pretty good flick too (with the alternate ending). I watched I am Legend and that movie was terrible. The only bass that was good was at the end. I will be selling my copy of I am legend on blu ray. SbWillie 03-24-08, 06:39 PM What? The only bass that was good was at the end sourbeef 03-24-08, 08:36 PM Let me throw this one out in case anyones interested. Edward Scissorhands. It has a very musical soundtrack throughout the movie, for those into the music side of things, and it booms/bangs along the way. bori 03-25-08, 01:48 AM What? I dont know if I had a bad copy of I am legend but I kept switching back and forth From DD and True HD to see if there is something wrong with the track.To my disappointment nothing for both the tracks. By the way I had the Blu Ray version, listened to the movie on dual HSU 3.3 turbos with an MBM-12. Watched it on a PS3 connected to the Onkyo 805 through HDMI. Flageborg 03-26-08, 11:14 AM could someone do me a huge favor and make a waterfall for chapter 10 on Xmen 3 when the house is coming a part?? that is one of my favorite scenes to show off and i would love to know what type of material there is in there.... thanks! Ben One of my favourites too...... http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/XMenIII.JPG Flageborg 03-26-08, 11:52 AM DareDevil - another favourite :eek: http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/DareDevil_I.JPG Flageborg 03-26-08, 11:53 AM More DareDevil :eek: http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/DareDevil_II.JPG mdk2007 03-26-08, 02:36 PM Flageborg thank you soo much for doing Chap 10- Out Of Control! everytime i watch that scene it always puts a smile on my face. the first time i played it with my new set-up my dad thought the house was going to come apart!! thanks again! mdk2007 03-26-08, 04:29 PM do you have a plot of the shockwaves towards the end?? those are pretty fun! thanks! ribbit 03-27-08, 07:34 AM i have a request guys: airplane exploding in The Incredibles SD DVD (mommy and the two kids in the plane) anybody do a waterfall on this scene? Flageborg 03-27-08, 08:59 AM do you have a plot of the shockwaves towards the end?? those are pretty fun! thanks! Something like this? http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/XMenIII_II.JPG Flageborg 03-27-08, 09:01 AM i have a request guys: airplane exploding in The Incredibles SD DVD (mommy and the two kids in the plane) anybody do a waterfall on this scene? This scene is also a part of my DemoDVD :) http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/Incredibles_II.JPG ribbit 03-27-08, 10:34 AM you the man Flageborg! thanks a lot! mdk2007 03-27-08, 11:30 AM lol i was thinking arkyte's shockwaves :) but that sure as hell works!! man i wish people would talk about this movie more...really is a lot of fun. What type of Demo Dvd are you talking about? is it availible anywhere?? Thanks again for your help! you are the man squidboy 03-27-08, 02:31 PM lol i was thinking arkyte's shockwaves :) but that sure as hell works!! man i wish people would talk about this movie more...really is a lot of fun. What type of Demo Dvd are you talking about? is it availible anywhere?? Thanks again for your help! you are the man For a bunch of good demo discs, check out this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=575236 Flageborg, Is your demo disc one of the ones available there? If not, are you willing to share? Flageborg 03-27-08, 05:01 PM My 2007 versions......;) Maybe I can send a DVD to one of you over there - who can share it.......? lfe man 03-27-08, 06:47 PM How about the scene where xavier says"get to the alkaline lake"and then roaaar:D SbWillie 03-28-08, 07:35 PM How about the scene where xavier says"get to the alkaline lake"and then roaaar:Dmainly 30-50 Hz stuff. DrPainMD 03-29-08, 12:45 AM Thanks to all for contributing to the thread. I've been very very busy at work and have not had time to update as frequently as I would like. Again, Thank you very much. Keep those waterfall charts coming!! SbWillie 03-29-08, 09:30 AM How about the scene where xavier says"get to the alkaline lake"and then roaaar:D http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/X-Men144.jpg saprano 03-30-08, 01:28 PM Spectrum Lab Software (used to make waterfalls): http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/spectra1.html Spectrum Lab Settings: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/spectrum%20lab/ and http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12517791#post12517791 Tools and Software: Sound Pressure Level (SPL) Meters Radio Shack Digital-Display Sound-Level Meter (http://www.radioshack.com/sm-digital-display-sound-level-meter--pi-2103667.html) Radio Shack Analog Display Sound Level Meter (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103668&cp=2032057.2032187.2032193.2032222&parentPage=family) Radio Shack SPL Meter Correction Tables (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=505236) SVS's Radio Shack SPL Meter Compensation Chart (http://www.svsound.com/questions-faqs-rscomp.cfm) Galaxy Audio SPL Meter (http://www.galaxyaudio.com/galaxy/ProductsCM.html) Software Ovation Multimedia - Avia: Guide To Home Theater DVD (http://www.ovationmultimedia.com/avia.html) Video Essentials: Get The Most Out Of Your Home Entertainment System DVD (http://www.videoessentials.com/) AVS - jeffreylebowski's Free Software for First Reflection Points (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=822273) Room EQ Wizard Help Thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=529224) Home Theater Shack: Room EQ Wizard (http://www.hometheatershack.com/roomeq/) Home Theater Shack: BFD Guide (http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/bfdguide/) Home Theater Shack: BFD Links (http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/bfd-rew-forum/35-bfd-guide-quick-links-faq-tips.html) SPL Calculator by C.M.Collins (http://www.myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html) Harman Kardon - Waves & Modes-A Room Resonances Locater (XLS spreadsheet) (http://www.harman.com/wp/pdf/Room%20Mode%20Calculator2002.xls) TrueRTA Audio Spectrum Analyzer (http://www.trueaudio.com/) TrueRTA For Dummies (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=572477) Audio Spectrum Analyzer - Spectrum Lab (Waterfall Chart) (http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/spectra1.html) Test Tones, DVD's Realm Of Excursion (http://www.realmofexcursion.com/) (Download Section) RealTraps - Test Tone CD (http://www.realtraps.com/test-cd.htm) Bink Audio Test CD (http://binkster.net/extras.shtml) Rives Audio Test CD 2 (http://www.rivesaudio.com/software/softframes.html) Stay in Tune with PentaTone (http://www.sa-cd.net/showtitle/3379) AVS - DIY Audio Test DVD (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=742969&page=1&pp=30) VB-Audio - Sine Wave Generator - "LF Generator" (http://www.vb-audio.com/) See my sig for more on Setting Up Your Home Theater Audio 101 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10118822#post10118822) do i need a spl meter to use those test tone's? or can i just play them. ssteel01 04-01-08, 10:19 AM Started watching The Mist last night...(ok, not a great movie)...but, wondering if any of the waterfall folks have checked it out yet. There's been a few scenes that seem to have some pretty deep effects. One scene pretty early on involves a tree crash and another I noticed/felt was during the "earthquake" in the supermarket. Just curious if anybody had waterfalls or interest in doing them. The effects felt pretty low, but I'd be hard pressed to guess how low. Scott bori 04-01-08, 01:09 PM I just finished watching Ladder 49 on blu ray. WOW. The bass in some these scenes had my couch hovering over the floor. This is a terrific movie to really give your subwoofers a workout. Let me know what everyone thinks about this movie. SbWillie 04-01-08, 08:31 PM sorry to get off subject but in 3 days we're getting the first 100% thx cert. theater right here in the Oklahoma CIty metro area so I'll get the full effect of movie bass b4 it hits the dvds, finally! SWEET BABY!! (http://www.warrentheatres.com/Moore.pdf) mdk2007 04-01-08, 11:32 PM i wonder what the cost is going to be per movie?? though id pay it because that just looks sick :) has anyone watched Superman returns recently...i saw it on cable and i thought it had some ridiculous stuff..i ordered it and cant wait to listen to the real deal :) any thoughts or opinions?? :) otk 04-02-08, 01:45 AM sorry to get off subject but in 3 days we're getting the first 100% thx cert. theater right here in the Oklahoma CIty metro area so I'll get the full effect of movie bass b4 it hits the dvds, finally! SWEET BABY!! (http://www.warrentheatres.com/Moore.pdf) what's next, laserdisc ? :p Flageborg 04-02-08, 06:04 AM has anyone watched Superman returns recently...i saw it on cable and i thought it had some ridiculous stuff..i ordered it and cant wait to listen to the real deal :) any thoughts or opinions?? :) Here is a little bit from that movie...... http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/SupermanReturns.JPG mdk2007 04-02-08, 10:08 AM well that just looks fun! we need to find a way to get ahold of one of your discs flageborg! id be willing to pay shipping...wonder how painful it would be to PA,US...maybe you could let me know? youve been a big help throughout! DrPainMD 04-02-08, 07:46 PM April 2, 2008 Added: "August Rush" HD-DVD Blu-ray 1. Chap 21 (1:13:00) "DareDevil" SE DC DTS 1. The Accident, Chap 4 (0:10:15) 5Hz WaterFall (http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/DareDevil_I.JPG) 2. The Accident, Chap 4 (0:10:21) 5Hz 3. Blind Justice, Chap 8 (0:27:30) WaterFall (http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/DareDevil_II.JPG) "I Am Legend" Blu-ray 1. Chap 3 (0:07:45 -0:07:53) 10Hz 2. Chap 3 (0:12:08) 3. Chap 7 (0:26:08 - 0:26:50) 1Hz WaterFall (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch7.jpg) 4. Chap 12 (0:42:22 - 0:44:16) -5Hz WaterFall (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch12.jpg) 5. Chap 13 (0:47:25 -0:47:30, 0:48:02 - 0:48:12) 6. Chap 14 (0:52:15 - 0:53:30) 3Hz WaterFall (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch1443.jpg) 7. Chap 17-18 (1:01:07 - 1:04:54) 3Hz 8. Chap 23 (1:21:00 - 1:24:15) 9. Chap 24 (1:25:20 - 1:30:14) "Superman Returns" HD-DVD Blu-ray 6. More WaterFalls For Superman Returns (http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/SupermanReturns.JPG) "X-Men 3: The Last Stand" SE DTS-ES DD-EX 3. Out of Control, Chap 10 WaterFall (http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/XMenIII.JPG) 5. More WaterFalls For X-Men 3: The Last Stand (http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/XMenIII_II.JPG) The Mist CE Obi-UWS 04-02-08, 08:32 PM Hello Dr. For your consideration I submit the following: "Road To Perdition" WS DTS The gunfire in Chapters 5, 8, and 18 and the train in chapter 12 really Rock the Room. Anyone else see this one? MIkeDuke 04-03-08, 07:59 AM Haven't watched Road To Perdition in a long time. I always thought it was a great movie. It also sounded great to me as well. Not just the bass, but the over all sound was top notch to me. DrPainMD 04-03-08, 11:48 PM Hello Dr. For your consideration I submit the following: "Road To Perdition" WS DTS The gunfire in Chapters 5, 8, and 18 and the train in chapter 12 really Rock the Room. Anyone else see this one? I think I saw this, but without a sub. Thats a Tom Hanks movie? But I did just watch "The Hitcher" (2007) with Sean Bean on HD-TV and it had pretty good bass at low volumes. Its a Michael Bay production.... so you be the judge. Obi-UWS 04-03-08, 11:54 PM I think I saw this, but without a sub. Thats a Tom Hanks movie? But I did just watch "The Hitcher" on HD-TV and it had pretty bass good at low volumes. Its a Michael Bay production.... so you be the judge. Yes, Tom Hanks, Paul Newman, Jude Law & pre 007 Daniel Craig check out the DTS version. The Hitcher already made the list Road To Perdition did not. DrPainMD 04-04-08, 12:20 AM Yes, Tom Hanks, Paul Newman, Jude Law & pre 007 Daniel Craig check out the DTS version. The Hitcher already made the list Road To Perdition did not. I know, was just saying I saw it. Havnt seen it before. Cant watch them all:cool: .... Dan Craig was also in "Tomb Raider" , I think the first one. I'll add your contributions sometime tomorrow. Thanks Obi mdk2007 04-04-08, 01:21 AM is there anyone that can do some waterfalls for Live Free or Die Hard?? That is one of my favorite movies for bass and just an awesome overall film. any help would be greatly appreciated!! thanks! Flageborg 04-04-08, 04:57 AM is there anyone that can do some waterfalls for Live Free or Die Hard?? That is one of my favorite movies for bass and just an awesome overall film. any help would be greatly appreciated!! thanks! This one ? http://images.play.com/covers/3275181x.jpg mdk2007 04-04-08, 08:57 AM lol yeah... :) really a lot of fun to watch. the car flip is just sick! ps my dad watched superman last night and he couldnt stop talking about it...esp that drop with the crystal...i cant wait to watch it! Citat3962 04-04-08, 10:12 AM Started watching The Mist last night...(ok, not a great movie)...but, wondering if any of the waterfall folks have checked it out yet. There's been a few scenes that seem to have some pretty deep effects. One scene pretty early on involves a tree crash and another I noticed/felt was during the "earthquake" in the supermarket. Just curious if anybody had waterfalls or interest in doing them. The effects felt pretty low, but I'd be hard pressed to guess how low. Scott Yeah this was the first movie I watched after getting my Subwoofer setup! That Earthquake quickly determined I had the gain a bit tooooo high.. No setup to get a waterfall though :( I'm guessing it's pretty good stuff though. in fact the whole movie has a lot of good LFE punctuation! otk 04-04-08, 10:16 AM i just saw the movie August Rush on dvd there is a short scene chapter 21 (1 hour 13 minutes in) were this boy prodigy wonders into a church and sits down at the pipe organ. he's playing around with the keys but nothing is sounding until he presses in one of the preset buttons that activates the pipes and he presses down on one of the bass pedals for a second and it shook my whole room then he starts playing for about a minute and there's lots of bass coming from the pipe organ it's a short but powerful scene and a pretty good movie too i found the scene on youtube. of course you're not going to experience the bass you'll get from dvd or blu-ray but at least it will give you some idea of the scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ0y97pNgcE Obi-UWS 04-04-08, 10:59 AM I know, was just saying I saw it. Havnt seen it before. Cant watch them all:cool: .... Dan Craig was also in "Tomb Raider" , I think the first one. I'll add your contributions sometime tomorrow. Thanks Obi Thank you Dr. for all your work on this forum. Good catch on Craig. I've started putting Red sticker dots on the spine of all my DVD's with Bass to make them easy to find. Obi og playa 04-04-08, 12:05 PM Hit Man! DTS Lots of action and lots a bass! The whole movie has plenty of bass content. You're going to have create something close to the size of Niagara Falls to chart this one.;) Ian :D I watched this movie and wow... it had some serious bass. Might be even a 5 star bassmovie? SCEvan 04-04-08, 12:35 PM Alien vs. Predator Requiem Dolby Digital would be a great addition to the list, movie has some crazy bass. But then again I just recently upgraded my system ;). I'll give a review of cloverfield later on :O. mdk2007 04-04-08, 01:39 PM id agree hitman was good but i would give it a solid 3.5-4...i think x-3 and superman returns should be bumped up just becuase there were some scenes that my life might be in danger :) hitman was a lot of fun to watch though....the hotel scene has some awesomee xplosions and gunshots :) Flageborg 04-04-08, 02:04 PM lol yeah... :) really a lot of fun to watch. the car flip is just sick! Die Hard 4.0 - shooting scene in apartment http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/DieHard4_I.JPG Flageborg 04-04-08, 02:05 PM Die Hard 4.0 - car flip scene in tunnel http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/DieHard4_II.JPG Flageborg 04-04-08, 02:07 PM Die Hard 4.0 - JetFighter versus Truck with "old man" http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/DieHard4_III.JPG lfe man 04-04-08, 02:21 PM Yes, cloverfield should be on 5 star list already:D. Deep bass even in that bad robot scene and sound design is overall oscar worthy. and thanks sbwillie for X3 chart.:) mdk2007 04-04-08, 02:35 PM flageborg, thanks again! man that shoot out in the apartment is probably my favorite gun scene right now...though hitman is close, Die hard deff takes the cake! btw, what equip are you using?? your theater looks amazing! little jealous actually :) SCEvan 04-04-08, 04:07 PM Cloverfield was very good for bass, just not as good as I expected, I dont think my equipment could handle some of the really low frenquencies, or it just sounded distorted because the whole basement was rattling. :D Dave_6 04-04-08, 04:20 PM Cloverfield was very good for bass, just not as good as I expected, I dont think my equipment could handle some of the really low frenquencies, or it just sounded distorted because the whole basement was rattling. :D How/where did you get Cloverfield already??? Flageborg 04-04-08, 04:38 PM flageborg, thanks again! btw, what equip are you using?? your theater looks amazing! little jealous actually :) Here is my equipment: Receiver: Denon AVR-4306 Amplifiers: DOXA 70mkII Dual/Mono and NAD DVD player: Oppo 971H CD player: Denon DCD-1560 w/LCAudio XO'clock Projektor: Mitsubishi HC3000 (professionally calibrated by Gorm) Screen: Projecta Center: 2 x BIF C21 Front System 1: B&W 801 Matrix Series II Front System 2: BIF 41 Front System 3: BIF W12 Surround : BIF R21 Sub-front 1: 1 x SVS 25-31PC-Plus Sub-front 2: 2 x SVS PB12Plus/2 Sub-EQ Sofa: Behringer DSP1124P Sub-sofa-back: 2 x Cerwin Vega 15" XL Sub-sofa-seat: 2 x Cerwin Vega XL-18S Sub-sofa-puff: 1 x RH 18" Cables: BetterCables, Monster, MITerminator and Tara LAbs Lightning: Adjustable spotlights in ceiling Remote lightning: ELKO The Room: Width: 5,70m Length: 9,30m Listening Position: 3,80m Linear SUB-SPLreduction from front to back: 100db -> 97db = 3db http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/SUBkurver%20B&W801.JPG DrPainMD 04-04-08, 04:57 PM Thank you Dr. for all your work on this forum. Good catch on Craig. I've started putting Red sticker dots on the spine of all my DVD's with Bass to make them easy to find. Obi lol good idea with the red stickers mdk2007 04-04-08, 11:33 PM wow thats a damn nice setup flageborg!! you must enjoy yourself :) with all these waterfalls and such...do you have any favorites to watch?? scenes?? Flageborg 04-05-08, 03:03 AM ...do you have any favorites to watch?? scenes?? My favourite scenes are on a Demo DVD ;) I posted pictures of these discs a couple of days ago......... mdk2007 04-05-08, 10:56 PM quick question....how is Hot Fuzz not five stars?? im pretty sure you could cause serious damage to your house with the right equipment :) anyone else agree with the bump?? Flageborg 04-06-08, 05:13 AM anyone else agree with the bump?? Yepp DrPainMD 04-07-08, 09:04 AM quick question....how is Hot Fuzz not five stars?? im pretty sure you could cause serious damage to your house with the right equipment :) anyone else agree with the bump?? Flageborg Yepp Done SCEvan 04-07-08, 11:09 AM How/where did you get Cloverfield already??? I have my resources. mdk2007 04-07-08, 11:36 AM so what type of bass are we expecting from cloverfield?? should this be on par with WOTW as far as the OMG factor?? Is there bass throughout or just the beginning sequence? Dave_6 04-07-08, 11:44 AM I have my resources. Thanks :rolleyes: bori 04-07-08, 01:55 PM Sweeney Todd organ music during the opening credits of the movie was great.:D JBLsound4645 04-07-08, 02:22 PM Die Hard 4.0 - shooting scene in apartment http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/DieHard4_I.JPG Oh the shoot is well mixed and balanced by Andy Nelson, Anna Behlmer and Tom Lalley. I like it when McClane jumps back into the flat and flips a refrigerator onto its side then sits down with his back to it. Suddenly WHAM! The door jolts on the LFE.1 with an almost sickening feeling knowing there is bunch of pissed off guys with automatic machineguns blazing away! The neighbours in that block of flats must be stone deaf not to hear what is going around them. :DLOL http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee15/Evolution3417/DieHard40DVD7.jpg I only missed Die Hard 4.0 (2007) by just one day at the Empire Leicester square and had to settle with Transformers (2007) in 56KW of JBL customized THX July 26th 2007. mojomike 04-07-08, 02:36 PM so what type of bass are we expecting from cloverfield?? should this be on par with WOTW as far as the OMG factor?? Is there bass throughout or just the beginning sequence? The bass is throughout once the action begins. I'd describe the bass as sort of Godzilla-like or Jurassic Park-like. It's very good. I even liked the movie as well. It seemed realistic. JBLsound4645 04-07-08, 02:40 PM The bass is throughout once the action begins. I'd describe the bass as sort of Godzilla-like or Jurassic Park-like. It's very good. I even liked the movie as well. It seemed realistic. I heard rumours when specking to one of the staff members at Empire Leicester square a few months back on the telephone, that the sound was awesome on cloverfield (2008) with it 56KW JBL THX sound power. She said it was “loud enough for blood to come out of our ears” well I’ll take pass on that, yuck. SCEvan 04-07-08, 09:32 PM so what type of bass are we expecting from cloverfield?? should this be on par with WOTW as far as the OMG factor?? Is there bass throughout or just the beginning sequence? There is bass throughout the entire movie, the kind that will make you run to your subwoofer and turn the volume down by 1/4 :D croseiv 04-07-08, 10:02 PM Cool! I see Monster's, Inc made into the top list. Excellent.:D It's one of my all time favorites. |