I know Rush may or may not be your cup of tea,but it is some of the cleanest sounding mastering for a live setting that I've heard.Alot of people
criticize Rush for being perfectionists and sounding too pretty.But I disagree,
they are masters at their craft and I say more power to them.So any of the Rush Dvds are pretty bass strong especially on Pearts solos.

The Pulse DVD is actually recorded in two different bit rates, so if your player can handle the higher bit rate, you actually get a slightly better sound than the standard DD track. that and it's just a kick butt concert to watch. Especially the drummer going nuts on "Learning to Fly" during his solo.

DVD makes me sad I gave up smoking the herb many years ago.

Thanks for the heads up on Rush (another good concert DVD to watch)

Whew. Sure seems a lot more calm around here..:)

Does any one have a waterfall of the gunshot scene in Ratatouille?

Hey man,
Calm is good,but sometimes when someone bites you,you have to bite back.I think JBLs determination is alright for him,but if I dont seem to like it,dont bite my head off and cause me to get banned from a forum for trying to be courteous.I think you will agree with me.I was positive towards him,and he told me to bugger off,whatever that means.So I had to respond

OK...now back on topic please

Thanks

let's get BACK on topic adults.:D:D

The last 2 pages should just be deleted and if peeps can't post good stuff on MOVIES then move along PLEASE! Sheeesh!

Does any one have a waterfall of the gunshot scene in Ratatouille?I posted the timestamps but I do not have the charts online...sorry.:o

let's get BACK on topic adults.:D:D

The last 2 pages should just be deleted and if peeps can't post good stuff on MOVIES then move along PLEASE! Sheeesh!

Yes, please lets stay focused on topic, some thinning out would also be nice.

Yes, please lets stay focused on topic, some thinning out would also be nice.

DrPainMD [OP of this thread] ...Thanks

posts deleted: if I missed any: use the report post button

back on topic: lets cut the nonsense

DrPainMD [OP of this thread] ...Thanks

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back on topic: lets cut the nonsense

thank you,


I just finished watching "Return to House on Haunted Hill" (2007) on TV.
It's available on DVD ,HD-DVD and Blu-ray.
Lots of really low BASS throughout the whole movie, for those who like horror its ok for its kind.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0827782/

I just watched National Treasure last night and the bass was OK. There were 2 parts in particular that had some nice bass. Probably the only parts. Made my pants flap but not make my hair stand up. The really good bass movie scenes will knock my door handle off(I really need to fix that).

Trust no one...

JBLsound4645,
Have you seen my subs? Check out my sig. I have a system capable of 122 db's at 10hz and 126 db's at 13-80hz. Making my seats shake is really easy. A movie like WOTW and Cloverfield with loud low bass will not just make my seats shake. BTW when I wear shorts and not pants My hair on my legs stand up. There is no escaping the effects of the bass in my room. I don't care what I wear. The sensation of your hair moving is a big deal, it means your room is pressurizing from the amount of low frequency in your room. The bass at the my theaters(JBL THX equipment which sounds very nice) can't compare to my room. I did this on purpose. I can reach the same amount of spl as the theater but mine will reach into single digits. Why so low, because the newer movies coming out are reaching deeper and deeper.

JBLsound4645,
Have you seen my subs? Check out my sig. I have a system capable of 122 db's at 10hz and 126 db's at 13-80hz. Making my seats shake is really easy. A movie like WOTW and Cloverfield with loud low bass will not just make my seats shake. BTW when I wear shorts and not pants My hair on my legs stand up. There is no escaping the effects of the bass in my room. I don't care what I wear.

Yeah mate, I’ve seen them, was it last week or week before, but yes I’ve seen them. You not playing it with near to 100% 122dbc all the time because you’ll end up with tinnitus sooner or later and that is enough to make you feel really depressed, I Kidd you not mate.

So you would watch a film naked then, why not since it’s not in public place. LOL I might try some Cloverfeild sub bass naked when it comes out next month on region 2 DVD.:D

Just took another look at those pucker sub bass tubes and you built them in day is that right?

Can you or is possible for you to do waterfall graph chart of an in-room frequency response of War of the Worlds (2005), I guess the level would be huge over the direct link to sub bass output to computer?

Trust no one...

The numbers I posted are peak numbers which occur only on the very heavy bass movie scenes at reference levels. Most action movies reach 110-115 db's. It took a weekend to build the subs. maybe 8-10 hours.
I don't have any equipment to make waterfall charts. I showed you the WOTW waterfall(from the beginning of this thread) chart just to illustrate how it was easy to read the chart with the pictures on the side.

If I was to put equipment in a big 200 seat cinema I would still use the JBL 4632 array's but with about 16 of my tubes. Lots of headroom from 10hz to 20khz.

Trust no one...

Trust no one...

Actually that scene is correct, it is not his sub. He should get very good response down to 20 hz with it in a small room. When they go inside is where the movie starts to dig deep into the teens and single digits.

Correct, but according to his chart the bulk of the response is between 30 and 40Hz. Not the 20Hz. But then again good acoustic treatments should help tame that some, but I see mostly bare walls. Also JBL recommends that one or two port plugs should be blocked for lower frequency response, (JBL - the company not poster says the sub will go down to 18Hz with two port plugs blocked) so even in other scenes, he still won't get much lower than 30hz with all three open like that with any scene, even Cloverfield.

But then again I also wouldnt have my CRT TV sitting on a big 20 year old subwoofer like that.

Trust no one...

I meant to say that his sub should get very good output down to 20 hz even without plugs, it won't be flat, but still good output. I used to use pro subs and they were killer from 25-80hz and then dropped off but still got really good numbers down low, just 10-15 db's down with no EQ. I wanted flat(did not need it) so I build these ugly monsters(I love them). That scene is mostly 30-40hz so I don't expect to see 20 hz. JBL should keep running that scene where tom cruise is looking out the window and see what his waterfalls produce. That part of the scene gets into single digits. If they don't show up then his waterfalls are limited by his sub.
The TV should be OK there BUT I would move it myself.

JBL,
Run the rest of the scene and see what you get.

Ashley and your neighbors in that apartment complex you live in, don't mind you playing those bass scenes at loud levels?

Trust no one...

I can't see that the mike would be accurate below or even at 20 Hz would it?

croseiv the sub can't go much below 30Hz without plugging the ports or adding distortion, so I don't think it will matter much anyway. But then again i also wouldn't add an EQ to the mono bass track either. Sigh.

What is all the confusion with all of these tests and microphones and wires and Grateful Dead Wall Of Sound Subwoofers.What happened to just taking the dvd out of the case putting it in the player and enjoying the movie?Just take and rent a dumpster.Use your receiver a television right,center,left,subwoofer,andtwo or three surround speakers.Thats all you need.The rest of that stuff is useless,that goes to the dumpster.To much confusion will make you more depressed than tinnitus will.I have been living with it for 20 years because of working around industrial wood working machines.

At least it's better than endless posts about older movies with hardly any bass at all.....I guess.

But do agree it is getting confusing.

I checked out your Strata Minis,they are gorgeous,My stuff is not even in the same league man.Maybe some day I will get to that level.For now I will have to stick with the rc-10s.

Thanks sgplayer, I use em in my home office and for music only, they are awesome (especially with the built in subs) But I don't want to hijack this thread anymore than it has, but thanks for the compliment.

We now return you to our regularly scheduled program.

We now return you to our regularly scheduled program.

for real this time?

Well said and, http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/images/icons/icon14.gifvery correct it’s more than down and it’s enough to shake the house with sound-waves travelling into the walls. Heck the Spy Who Loved Me when they fire the torpedoes at the front of the oil tanker ship towards the near the end, shock the concrete flooring with jolt!
What you are getting is more of sound pressure than sound wave. 1/4 wave length of 20 Hz is over 14 feet. Unless you have it set up in a room as big as a typical movie dubbing stage, you won't be getting real sound waves below 40 Hz.

How can you make the distinction between sound pressure and a sound wave? When travelling through a gas (air) they are one and the same. When you measure sound volume, you are measuring the Sound Pressure Level. The room does not have to be the full length of the wave to hear the sound properly. The pressure alternating at the right frequency is all that's needed.

for real this time? - Dr.Pain

Yeah, it's hard to argue with people who don't have a clue about how to properly hook up a modern HT.

MatthewB,
Why even make a comment like that. To each their own. I do agree on respecting what the op wants in his thread. With you making comments like that just fuels the fire.

Those are unreal,did you construct those yourself?Do you listen to any music concert dvds,if so how does the bass sound on them?What kind of amplifier does it take to run those?I love looking at everyones equipment on this site,and some of this stuff is just amazing.Alot of great ideas here.I am trying to learn more about multichannel,as I am mainly into just two channel.

6 minutes 50 seconds

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/croseiv/Rat2.jpg



I hit 108 dB at normal listening levels with this scene last night (-15 MV) with the Ultra. Quite a shaker.

This is my first attempt at producing a waterfall from a movie.

Now that's a waterfall chart I can respect, it clearly shows highs (or should I say lows) in the mid teens and going up from there. Thanks croseiv, it's apparent your sub has the cajones to handle absolute peaks.

Thanks MatthewB
I send praise for your last response.Thanks for standing up for the good of all of us descent people on here!

Thanks sgplayer.

I'm curious if anybody has a waterfall of the movie "Golden Compass" the scene where Nicole Kidmans blimp is preparing to land. That one had some intense bass.

u just need to show your color chart...I'm guessing reds are -20 ro `10?

thx for posting the movie chart and NOT a sub's response chart.

Those are unreal,did you construct those yourself?Do you listen to any music concert dvds,if so how does the bass sound on them?What kind of amplifier does it take to run those?I love looking at everyones equipment on this site,and some of this stuff is just amazing.Alot of great ideas here.I am trying to learn more about multichannel,as I am mainly into just two channel.

Hi,
Thanks. They are awesome. I did not expect what I am getting for bass. I helped my friend build these. I have only listened to one concert and it was very nice. They are the best subs I have owned. I use 2 Ada MPA-501's and 1 Ada PF-2501 to run all my speakers. I built them for 2 ohms which is crazy but I knew my amps would handle them. Besides, I get more power at 2 ohms.

MatthewB,
I don't know what to say except if you have personal issues with anyone it should probably be kept in PM's or just notify the mods and let them work it out. The only thing I see wrong so far from JBL is not respected the OP's suggestion for not posting what he does not want. JMO and you can do what you want. I just said what I said before because this will keep going with any little comments which I know DrPainMD does not want.

6 minutes 50 seconds

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/croseiv/Rat2.jpg



I hit 108 dB at normal listening levels with this scene last night (-15 MV) with the Ultra. Quite a shaker.

This is my first attempt at producing a waterfall from a movie.

wow, some low stuff!

wow, some low stuff!

not so low, hardly any strong stuff under 28hz...maybe granny with shotgun are better.

How can you make the distinction between sound pressure and a sound wave?
By auditioning the two.

By auditioning the two.

...but they are one and the same. Sound, audible and sub-audible, is sound pressure. That is physics 101. Perhaps you can cite some evidence to prove otherwise? (I doubt it)

6 minutes 50 seconds

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/croseiv/Rat2.jpg



I hit 108 dB at normal listening levels with this scene last night (-15 MV) with the Ultra. Quite a shaker.

This is my first attempt at producing a waterfall from a movie.





Thanks Croseiv.




Nick

Thank you, you can still see the name tag on the sonosubs. They look much better with the screen up.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z127/spinefixr/Thatisme6feet3inches.jpg

...but they are one and the same. Sound, audible and sub-audible, is sound pressure. That is physics 101. Perhaps you can cite some evidence to prove otherwise? (I doubt it)
One environment being a pressurized condition like a typical size home theater and the other one being a large room like a dubbing stage for movie or even an outdoor condition. Are you saying that you've auditioned a source material in those 2 environments at same volume but could not tell the difference? :rolleyes:

As I said, sound pressure = sound. Sound = sound pressure. They are one and the same. In a smaller room, bass will have a disproportionate amount of room gain at lower frequencies causing what folks sometimes refer to as "pressurization". Actually, all sound that travels through the air is sound pressure. The principles don't change based on the size of the room. What does change is the degree of boundary-related gain.

As I said, sound pressure = sound. Sound = sound pressure. They are one and the same. In a smaller room, bass will have a disproportionate amount of room gain at lower frequencies causing what folks sometimes refer to as "pressurization".
But is sound wave = sound pressure?

The principles don't change based on the size of the room. What does change is the degree of boundary-related gain.
What about the sound quality? Extreme examples would be in-car bass vs. outdoor listening.

Have you been able to compare 1 source material in 2 different conditions? One being an environment not big enough to contain 1/4 wave length of, say below 40 Hz vs. the other one that can?

But is sound wave = sound pressure?
A sound wave = an alternating air pressure variation.


What about the sound quality? Extreme examples would be in-car bass vs. outdoor listenin
Have you been able to compare 1 source material in 2 different conditions? One being an environment not big enough to contain 1/4 wave length of, say below 40 Hz vs. the other one that can?

Bass sound quality to a very large degree is determined by how a particular sub's frequency curve matches up with a particular environment. For example, an unequalized sealed sub will have frequency response wih a predictable low end rolloff. Often this rolloff can be almost perfectly offset by the room gain that you get in a smallish sealed room. Net result is often a fairly flat in-room response. On the other hand, you might wind up with a flatter response in a large open room if you use a good ported sub. Certain sources are better suited to particualr environments. In a very small space like a car, the boundary gain is huge. You can have a sub with a rolloff that begins fairly high and still wind up with a flat, deep frequency response due to the low end gain. The size of the environment being much smaller than the wave length does not prevent you from hearing the frequency. It's still all about the pressure. The difference is that you get more boundary gain as the environmment gets smaller and the gain extends up to includer higher frequencies as you get smaller.

...maybe granny with shotgun are better.



What about this one?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=111189&d=1211613423

More shotguns.......

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=111191&d=1211614549

wow, some low stuff!

I went back and made some adjustments to Speclab (to standardize) and came up with this:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/croseiv/Ratabetter.jpg

Same time as my previous post (6 min 50 sec). Looks much better I think. I will capture the "gunshots". I have looked at them already, and they are roughly equivalent to this energy wise.

I went back and made some adjustments to Speclab (to standardize) and came up with this:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/croseiv/Ratabetter.jpg

Same time as my previous post (6 min 50 sec). Looks much better I think. I will capture the "gunshots". I have looked at them already, and they are roughly equivalent to this energy wise.

looks good!

I can't get speclab to work now. I'm using vista, it was working before on my old pc with XP. Anyone using it with vista?

looks good!

I can't get speclab to work now. I'm using vista, it was working before on my old pc with XP. Anyone using it with vista?

I'm running Vista. Seems to be working pretty good.

I'm running Vista. Seems to be working pretty good.

Can you post some screenshots of your settings please?

Here's the gunshots (from 9 min 53 sec to 10 min 08 sec)

Goes pretty low!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/croseiv/Gunshots.jpg

Can you post some screenshots of your settings please?

Sure! Is there any thing in particular you would like to see?

Sure! Is there any thing in particular you would like to see?

Well, I figure it won't only be for me, but for others who want to setup speclab. It would be a great help.

I'd like to see all the setup tabs. (if you have time)

But I'm thinking it has something to do with my drivers and sound card setup.


EDIT: I got it to work with a microphone, but it does'nt want to get anything straight from the dvd.


Thanks

Try this: (Spec Lab settings)

And this:

And this too:

A sound wave = an alternating air pressure variation.



In a very small space like a car, the boundary gain is huge. You can have a sub with a rolloff that begins fairly high and still wind up with a flat, deep frequency response due to the low end gain. The size of the environmment being much smaller than the wave length does not prevent you from hearing the frequency. It's still all about the pressure. The difference is that you get more boundary gain as the environment gets smaller and the gain extends up to includer higher frequencies as you get smaller.
Perhaps I should have referred to it as "pressurization" than "sound pressure". Obviously if the room cannot accommodate the wave length, then the listener is not getting the true wave pattern. They'll get something though.

If you have experienced the same bass source in 2 different aforementioned environments, you may not want to equate the bass quality from a pressurized vs. not. Former seems to be what most people are used to and think that's how it's supposed to be.

This scene really shakes my living room. I always though it had some pretty deep bass. I haven't really seen this waterfall done before...Some energy all the way down to 5Hz...I sure as heck can feel it with the Ultra. This is perhaps one of my all time favorite scenes.
It starts at 2 min 40 sec.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/croseiv/Amidalasship.jpg


This stuff is addictive...

Perhaps I should have referred to it as "pressurization" than "sound pressure". Obviously if the room cannot accommodate the wave length, then the listener is not getting the true wave pattern. They'll get something though.

If you have experienced the same bass source in 2 different aforementioned environments, you may not want to equate the bass quality from a pressurized vs. not. Former seems to be what most people are used to and think that's how it's supposed to be.

Accommodating the entire length of a sound wave in a space has nothing to do with being able to perfectly hear the sound. For example, the wave length of a 30hz tone is 37.67 feet, yet you can reproduce and hear the tone perfectly through a good pair of headphones which can physically only support a wave length of maybe an inch. It's all about the alternating pressure variation which the ear detects as sound and has nothing to do with being able to accommodate the entire length of the wave.

The bass quality and how it varies based on different sized environments gets down to a matter of tayloring the response of a sub to reproduce a flat frequency response in that environment.

Awesome croseiv !!! Your the man!!!

I'm going to incorporate those settings into the first post. Since this is the newer version(V2.7 b20) it differs from kweezr's. Thanks and keep up the good work.

That star wars scene is great!

EDIT:
Can you post one more screen shot, where you would click on the "Start/Stop" and it shows some settings. On the navigation toolbar on the top. Also if you know the color scheme name, that would be terrific.

Thanks

Awesome croseiv !!! Your the man!!!

I'm going to incorporate those settings into the first post. Since this is the newer version(V2.7 b20) it differs from kweezr's. Thanks and keep up the good work.

That star wars scene is great!


Cool!

Actually, I did see Kweezer's work re the ship landing scene, so it is a duplication of effort on my part there. I think our level settings are a little different.
But it is one heck of a scene.

Awesome croseiv !!! Your the man!!!

I'm going to incorporate those settings into the first post. Since this is the newer version(V2.7 b20) it differs from kweezr's. Thanks and keep up the good work.

That star wars scene is great!

EDIT:
Can you post one more screen shot, where you would click on the "Start/Stop" and it shows some settings. On the navigation toolbar on the top. Also if you know the color scheme name, that would be terrific.

Thanks


The color scheme is RDF multisweep 2

Range -60 dB to 0.

The color scheme is RDF multisweep 2

Range -60 dB to 0.

Thanks, I added your settings to the first post, so all will benefit from it.

Here is a waterfall of the pod race from 58:27 to 59:36.
There's definitely some deep stuff there too!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/croseiv/PodRac.jpg

Strong down to 20 Hz and a little in the mid teens. I always thought this was a deep scene (as my sub was telling my ears and body). That's enough of this for today...:D

We're posting shotgun blasts but completely ignore Open Range? I don't think anything comes close to OR's shotgun blasts. Anyone(besides jbl sound) got any captures on that?

We're posting shotgun blasts but completely ignore Open Range? I don't think anything comes close to OR's shotgun blasts. Anyone(besides jbl sound) got any captures on that?
You then have not yet heard Mr. Brooks. Literally deafeningly realistic is the only way to describe the gunshot sounds in that movie. :eek:


Tim

I have a request for a waterfall:

Somewhat obscure recent movie called Gabriel. I'd like to see the waterfall of the scene where Uriel heals himself. It's in chapter 3 or 4 as I recall.

Thanks in advance,


Tim

Trust no one...

No, but this should suffice.:)

“Impressive, most impressive waterfalls.”

This one kinder pushed the level as well as the frequency up a bit high and the first time I played this in the home, after the pants showing at the Odeon Westover road screen 1 (2002) that didn’t even have one single creditable impact to WOW the audience, it scared the living daylights out of me, (in the home) and I forget which amplifier I was using for the JBL4645 at the time, but not one single issue, just one almighty, tremendous impact on my body, now then.




Yeah. That one shakes the house too.

Yeah. That one shakes the house too.

But what I do is listen to what the LCR can do or reproduce because there not cinema size PA and the sub is so, I reduce the level down to match more or less the bass level along with the other sub that serves as bass extension for the LCRS and then add the LFE.1 with pinch of little slat, otherwise too much in level, will spoil the enjoyment of it all with excessive amounts of LFE.1.

I’d have to go over this flick again with fine toothcomb and see which part of the LFE.1 has the highest level, as I look for level and not frequency response as some portions are slightly lower in output level.

Mate you should check out NASA TV right now, wow what tour of the ISS that’s the real deal, no star wars no star trek it’s the real McCoy, and the view is breathtaking.:)

It's all about the alternating pressure variation which the ear detects as sound and has nothing to do with being able to accommodate the entire length of the wave.
It's not the end of the world if you have not but if you are really interested, I would suggest you give the two environments a try with same bass source.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk279/SpectrumsubbassLFE13417/StarWarsepisode2AttackoftheClonesch.jpg

same as this one from kweezr

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/spectrum%20lab/dbreference.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfalls/ATOC_ch3_flybyexplosion_LFE.jpg

Trust no one...

Trust no one...

I've added some of the new Hi-Def sound formats along side of the movies.

DD+
DTS-HD:MA
DTS-HD:HRA
TrueHD
LPCM

Still working on adding them to the timestamp section.


Oh and the thread title will change once the mods clear it.


Thanks

Hmm, I should have tried those moments out and I think I know the moment in chapter 12 “hey f^&&*k you!” “he’s close he’s really close” LOL

"Apocalypse Now"
1. Chopper Ride, Chap 2 (0:19:47)
2. Arc Light, Chap 4 (0:26:02)
3. Grenade Launch, Chap 12 (1:27:58)

It's not the end of the world if you have not but if you are really interested, I would suggest you give the two environments a try with same bass source.

I hear what your saying, but the same bass source must be taylored to be played back properly in different environments.

I hear what your saying, but the same bass source must be taylored to be played back properly in different environments.

Hmmm, I have the space for an idea of delightful extermination of a sort, I can’t disclose the concept but I’m thinking of a few frequencies and few other on hand items and little imagination would give the correct tone at a certain given distance.

Thanks this thread has been fascinating now all I need is a few parts of low cost and knock them together.

Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope DD-EX Boxed trilogy version

1:03:25-1:03:32.

One of the nicest bass scenes in the movie, a sweep after they hit where alderan should be. Then again anytime the Falcon flies by or when the Death Star goes boom is pretty nice...

It may not compare to the LOTR but it's nice.

also i think the prequel trilogy should all be in the 4-4.5 star range for bass

and LOTR: The Two Towers should be moved to 4.5 stars.

and ill try and think of some more for you guys. :p

tbonetommygun
I like the part where the Falcon is being pulled in by a tractor beam and it sounds like a frequency sweep, when Han Solo shuts the engines off.

I think there was deep moment where its used in the LFE.1 as with the LCR and S was mostly a lower level background of sort, its been a month or two since I played it.

im hearing a bit of something there but if you jump to the beginning of the chapter im pretty sure it's the best bass in the movie. It sure beats the explosion at the end, and the alderan explosion.

Trust no one...

This part of the movie has always impressed me with the effect of subtle deep bass.I never really noticed it at all until I got my PB13-Ultra. While it's not very hot, I can certainly feel it. It's when the Jedi are realizing Anakin may not be the chosen one and are flying in a warship. Neat sound effect there!

Notice the energy at 13 Hz.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/croseiv/NotChosen.jpg

same as this one from kweezr

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/spectrum%20lab/dbreference.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfalls/ATOC_ch3_flybyexplosion_LFE.jpg




I noticed a red line running at 60 Hz here that's not not in my waterfall. I wonder why there is a difference?

I notice the version that you have is (panned & scanned) due to the blue line on the DVD cover and from the screen captures as well.

Noted and I’ve heard or rather felt the film so many times in the home, 13Hz interesting, I’ll seek it out and I’ll trust my feelings, cheers.



Yeah. I acquired my DVD set when I still had a 4:3 CRT. I never liked the black bars. The images must be streched a little on my widescreen display, but I can live with it.

CAN we get back to posting the ACTUAL movie LFE/bass charts and not how well my sub represents LFE??

JBL???:mad::rolleyes:

I noticed a red line running at 60 Hz here that's not not in my waterfall. I wonder why there is a difference?

I recall that on some of kweezr's early charts he had a consistent 60hz interference line that he said was hardware based on his end. I believe that's what you're seeing on that one.


Tim

I recall that on some of kweezr's early charts he had a consistent 60hz interference line that he said was hardware based on his end. I believe that's what you're seeing on that one.


Tim

Thanks very much! I wondered a bit. Seeing that it is at 60Hz points to line (ground) noise perhaps.

JBL,

I don't think it's a good idea to get into a subwoofer frequency comparison here in this thread. Just stick to the low end movie responses measured by running line out to line in as measured with your sound card. That's the way it should be. Cheers!

SbWillie and croseiv, do you realize who it is that you are trying to suggest things to? :rolleyes: That’s if you’ve seen the post by another member. ;) Save your energy.

This discussion is simply about ACTUAL bass in a movie.

Movie waterfalls NOT sub waterfalls.

stop teasin me jbl, please graph the

1:03:25-1:03:32

section for me :p

i swear i head both that part and the alderan explosion at the same volume but the sub-light engines turning off after they come out of hyperspace sounds much louder...

No, but this should suffice.
Nope.
You then have not yet heard Mr. Brooks. Literally deafeningly realistic is the only way to describe the gunshot sounds in that movie.
It sounds unreal in DTS MA Lossless but I still believe Heat on LD was the best gunshot sound yet. For DVD and shotgun blasts only, OR is incredible. For pistol shots, I would agree on Mr Brooks. Those that can only listen to DTS on the regular dvd are missing out a bunch.

Nope.

It sounds unreal in DTS MA Lossless but I still believe Heat on LD was the best gunshot sound yet. For DVD and shotgun blasts only, OR is incredible. For pistol shots, I would agree on Mr Brooks. Those that can only listen to DTS on the regular dvd are missing out a bunch.

Collatelar is another goodie with gunshots and condemned was powerfull too, oh i almost forget last action hero(jack slater gun):eek:. Pretty useless silencers in mr brooks.:D

nm...

Mr. Brooks is maybe a 3-star "gunshot" movie. Not worth mentioning in this thread.....

On top of this list, 5-star, is still:
Open Range
Die Hard 4.0
Hot Fuzz

Here's a great bass scene:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/croseiv/mine.jpg

It's from 45:39-46:36. It shakes the house. My old PSW650 sub simply could not handle this section of movie at all at volume. It goes all the way down to 1 Hz with strong energy at 22-23 Hz! I love it when the horse says "mine".

So is that the ACTUAL LFE w'fall or your sub's (another thread)?

So is that the ACTUAL LFE w'fall or your sub's (another thread)?

NOT that I should really have to explain it to you, but it is of the LFE of the movie measured via line in to my sound card. My settings can be found at the beginning of this thread. I'm not doing any miking of speakers.

This scene really shakes my living room. I always though it had some pretty deep bass. I haven't really seen this waterfall done before...Some energy all the way down to 5Hz...I sure as heck can feel it with the Ultra. This is perhaps one of my all time favorite scenes.
It starts at 2 min 40 sec.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/croseiv/Amidalasship.jpg


This stuff is addictive...

that scene always amazed me with how much bass they use

really sick :cool:

"The Host" (Gwoemul) (2006) HD-DVD Blu-ray
1. Chap ? (1:42:50) 16Hz



I watched this movie last night (Blu-ray, PCM) and had to rewind that scene at least 3 times, had all my walls shaking, gave the dual HSU HO's a nice workout for a few seconds as well ;)

I watched this movie last night (Blu-ray, PCM) and had to rewind that scene at least 3 times, had all my walls shaking, gave the dual HSU HO's a nice workout for a few seconds as well ;)

do you know the chapter # ?

HOST is a four letter word and the film should be treated as one.

NOT that I should really have to explain it to you, but it is of the LFE of the movie measured via line in to my sound card. My settings can be found at the beginning of this thread. I'm not doing any miking of speakers.Just making sure..;):D

HOST is a four letter word and the film should be treated as one.

yah it was a pretty bad movie

yah it was a pretty bad movie

Yes it was. Sorry Pain, didn't look. I still ahve the movie (no mail pick up today). I will jimmy open my Netflix envelope and find out. I'll post tomorrow

"The Host" (Gwoemul) (2006) HD-DVD Blu-ray
1. Chap ? (1:42:50) 16Hz

Chapter 15 :)

Can someone chek scene in star wars 3 where ship breaks half "we lost something...dont worry, we still have a half a ship". Sorry no timestamp now, but you know the scene;):D

Can someone chek scene in star wars 3 where ship breaks half "we lost something...dont worry, we still have a half a ship". Sorry no timestamp now, but you know the scene;):D



Yes I can check, but which chapter? Haven't noticed any other deep bass scenes in this movie but:

Chapter 14 - starting at 00:38:38 and ending at 00:39:31 is the only scene to qualify for this thread

Yes I can check, but which chapter? Haven't noticed any other deep bass scenes in this movie but:

Chapter 14 - starting at 00:38:38 and ending at 00:39:31 is the only scene to qualify for this thread

It's start somewhere in 0:21:05.

0:20:30 and 1:47:47 would be nice to know too.:)

It's start somewhere in 0:21:05.

0:20:30 and 1:47:47 would be nice to know too.:)


I believe you are referring to this:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/croseiv/StarWars3.jpg

Yup, that is the one. Thanks croseiv.:)

Could someone graph the

1:03:25-1:03:32 segment of

Star Wars Episode IV please?


I dont have the ability to connect my LFE to my sound card unfortunately

I dont have the ability to connect my LFE to my sound card unfortunately


Just run your line out to your line in on your sound card (same wire).

or get pretty close by just going direct from the dvd in your comp..not identical to the LFE but very close most of the time.

Just tested some scenes of commando sd-dvd dir cut and when matrix blows those barracks...wow:eek:, some stuff there.

Just tested some scenes of commando sd-dvd dir cut and when matrix blows those barracks...wow:eek:, some stuff there.



Commando - with Arnold :confused:

Don't bather to mention - just forget it.......... sound from the Stone Age

Commando - with Arnold :confused:

Don't bather to mention - just forget it.......... sound from the Stone Age

Actually the dd5.1 sound is quite good and that deep(i think) barracks explosion was little surprise.

This movie had some nice low's

Hello DrPainMD,

I wanted to give you a couple of time stamps for Finding Nemo:

Anglerfish is Chapter 11 @ 33:51

Whale Spouting is Chapter 21 @ 1:12:04

I couldn't find the sliding sub scene and my wife was in a hurry to take the movie back to BB...Sorry. I just upgraded my system to (2) LFM-1+ subs from Outlaw Audio and have been playing your recommendations.

Thank you for all of your hard work!

Larry

Hello DrPainMD,

I wanted to give you a couple of time stamps for Finding Nemo:

Anglerfish is Chapter 11 @ 33:51

Whale Spouting is Chapter 21 @ 1:12:04

I couldn't find the sliding sub scene and my wife was in a hurry to take the movie back to BB...Sorry. I just upgraded my system to (2) LFM-1+ subs from Outlaw Audio and have been playing your recommendations.

Thank you for all of your hard work!

Larry


Thanks , I added them to the list.

Hello DrPainMD,

I wanted to give you a couple of time stamps for Finding Nemo:

Anglerfish is Chapter 11 @ 33:51

Whale Spouting is Chapter 21 @ 1:12:04

I couldn't find the sliding sub scene and my wife was in a hurry to take the movie back to BB...Sorry. I just upgraded my system to (2) LFM-1+ subs from Outlaw Audio and have been playing your recommendations.

Thank you for all of your hard work!

1:28:51 goes to 5 Hz...noone has ever discussed that scene (fish net breaking)

Larry

sub slide
ch. 10/ 30:35-31:38
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/Nemoch10.jpg

Angler fish is Chapter 11 @ 33:51
strong down to 16 Hz

Whale Spouting is Chapter 21 @ 1:12:04
strong to 20 Hz

1:28:51 (net breaking) goes down to 5 Hz..noone has ever brought up that scene.

so quiet here, well i founded this from another forum.

planet terror chapter 23 (1:16:40)

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l165/anidabi/Hifi/Spectrum_lab/DVD/Planet_Terror_ch23_1h_16min_40s.jpg

yikes:eek:

credits go to anidabi:)

so quiet here, well i founded this from another forum.

planet terror chapter 23 (1:16:40)

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l165/anidabi/Hifi/Spectrum_lab/DVD/Planet_Terror_ch23_1h_16min_40s.jpg

yikes:eek:

credits go to anidabi:)

thanks, what forum did you find it from?

where are you in Finland?

I would like to thank the mod(s) who changed the title of my thread..

The New Name Is :

The Master List of DVD, HD-DVD & Blu-ray Movies with BASS Thread...With WaterFalls!!!



:):cool::D;):p



I like this

so quiet here, well i founded this from another forum.

planet terror chapter 23 (1:16:40)

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l165/anidabi/Hifi/Spectrum_lab/DVD/Planet_Terror_ch23_1h_16min_40s.jpg

yikes:eek:

credits go to anidabi:)

Whoah...that's some crazy LF energy right there! What is that, high level 3-4hz?

Yeah, but not many people (including myself) can produce bass below 18hz.
Interesting, but not worth adding to the list since it won't be audible, or felt by anyone but the rare few.

nm

thanks, what forum did you find it from?

where are you in Finland?

I find it there http://www.dvdplaza.fi/, sorry its mainly finnish language forum.

Where i am in finland...hmm, why you ask that?:cool:

I find it there http://www.dvdplaza.fi/, sorry its mainly finnish language forum.

Where i am in finland...hmm, why you ask that?:cool:

Just curious, thats all. :)

Yeah, but not many people (including myself) can produce bass below 18hz.
Interesting, but not worth adding to the list since it won't be audible, or felt by anyone but the rare few.

I personally can't produce bass below 18Hz (well except for the occasional belch::eek:). But my sub can...:D

Poll

I would like to know if it would be helpful or beneficial for the ones who read this thread if I included a link to IMDB (or maybe some other site) incorporated into the name of the movie. So if you clicked on it, it would take you to the site.

Please Answer with a simple Yes or No and why so.

Example:

M

Mammoth (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0487037/)
Man On Fire (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0328107/) DTS Blu-ray DTS-HD:MA
The Marine (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419946/) Blu-ray DTS-HD:MA
Mask of Zorro (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120746/) DTS Superbit THX
Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0311113/) DTS DD-EX Blu-ray DTS-HD:MA

Yes.

I personally think it would be a nice touch to an already awesome forum :)

Sounds good to me. By the way, yor "links" aren't working for me.

anyone remotely excited about Jumper on Blu ray tuesday?? im hoping the bass should be really nice :)

Yes.

I personally think it would be a nice touch to an already awesome forum :)

Well said and in agreement.

Larry

:)

What about 10,000 BC (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443649/) coming June 24 on DVD and Blu-ray. Has anyone seen this?

Sounds good to me. By the way, yor "links" aren't working for me.

did you try clicking the movie title? works for others ....strange:confused:

anyone remotely excited about Jumper on Blu ray tuesday?? im hoping the bass should be really nice :)

here!! :)

Well said and in agreement.

Larry

I concur! A great idea indeed.

Glad everyone is cool with the idea. I've got the A's done. LOL ... only 500 to go.


On a another note, would anyone consider writing a good synopsis, interpretation of how to understand and read the waterfall charts?

Thanks

Glad everyone is cool with the idea. I've got the A's done. LOL ... only 500 to go.


On a another note, would anyone consider writing a good synopsis, interpretation of how to understand and read the waterfall charts?

Thanks

Why don't you just pull from the old thread?

Why don't you just pull from the old thread?

I have done so, but thought maybe it was lacking. (See link in first post) I'm not very good at explaining things, otherwise I would do it.

Something with pop up pictures and coloring pages would be nice ;)

did you try clicking the movie title? works for others ....strange:confused:

I was but they weren't working. It must have been me though because they work now :o

is there anyone that could do some graphs for mr and mrs smith?? i watched in on Blu last night and i thought the house was going to break. :) The car chase and explosion in the desert were huggge lol. any help would be great!

Dr. keep up the awesome work with this thread...others should be jealous of such a forum!

What about 10,000 BC (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443649/) coming June 24 on DVD and Blu-ray. Has anyone seen this?

IMO, it was a very bad movie. It may have some good bass though. But that is not enough for me to pick this one up.

I wish I could measure a certain scene from "the marksman" Its the scene where Wesley Snipe's Charachter runs through the covered bridge while the entire thing is going up in a HUGE explosion the scene lasts at least three minutes and the bass is LOUD and makes the DVDs in the closet slide! The Foam ceiling tiles in my room were rattling! My mom was B*tching about it being loud enough to be heard through the whole house. :D

I wish I could measure a certain scene from "the marksman" Its the scene where Wesley Snipe's Charachter runs through the covered bridge while the entire thing is going up in a HUGE explosion the scene lasts at least three minutes and the bass is LOUD and makes the DVDs in the closet slide! The Foam ceiling tiles in my room were rattling! My mom was B*tching about it being loud enough to be heard through the whole house. :D

the marksman...its so horrible film, never gonna watch that film again. Poor wesley snipes, acting in undisputed 3 now.:D

Watched Cloverfield on Blu Ray just the other day. Now I don't have a new reciever yet because Pioneer is screwing around with the 1018 I want to buy but that is another story.

Even using the Dolby Digital Track with is encoded at the highest quality that it can be for DD Lossy....the bass was amazing. The foot stomps and explosions were really shaking things up. There isn't one scene like WOTW that you would just put on, but rather...skip the first 15mins and watch from there. You will see what I mean.

Now...what will be interesting is in about a month when I get my HDMI reciever, will be watching this again with the TRUE HD track....I hear this is a "WHOLE N'Other Level"!

I just saw Cloverfield yesterday... great movie for audio. The movie itself was actually better than I thought it would be. Could have been better if not for all the pre set camera movement. I understand this was the intended technique and perspective, but all that camera movement actually took away some of the enjoyment IMO.

The bass was fantastic... I forgot how much stuff I had around the house that could rattle, but my PB12 NSD handled the bass effortlessly. Didn't realize it at first, but in the DVD, the director said that the creature was actually a "baby" waking up and walking around the city in "confusion, pain, and anger" possibly looking for it's mother???... Man... some baby!!! Lots of speculation as to the meaning of that splash in the ocean at the end... was it the creature itself arriving from outer space, or the Japanese satellite splashing in the ocean and waking the creature? Two camps are divided here, though the director does indicate at one time that the creature awakes from a long slumber.

Cloverfield 2 is apparently in the works.


Splash at the end in the ocean...?? I am going to have to go watch it again. I don't remember that at all!

Just went back....WOW that is cool....You really have to look at the right corner to see it. I wonder where Cloverfield 2 will be going with that!....So where are these references to the slumber or the satellite?? Where does the director say it was a BABY!

I winder how the big chase scene in the island registers in the sub-bass reigon. there seems to be a lot of noise coming from the sub-woofer in my old setup. I havent tried it on my new setup. :D

fyi...Jumper on Blu Ray is pretty awesome!!

just a heads up for anyone remotely interested :)

I winder how the big chase scene in the island registers in the sub-bass reigon. there seems to be a lot of noise coming from the sub-woofer in my old setup. I havent tried it on my new setup. :D

The Island - chase scene from the beginning - were the deepest bass is.

http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/The_Island.JPG

fyi...Jumper on Blu Ray is pretty awesome!!

just a heads up for anyone remotely interested :)

Any timestamps?

umm when the bus flips at 1:10 and 20 seconds is pretty awesome.

really the whole last 20 minutes has some great low bass :)

Thanks for the "The Island" waterfall flag and mdk for the times in "Jumper" .... I've added them.


I've updated the first post with the incorporated links to IMDB ( upto the letter N so far). Pheeewwww. :eek: Now for O - Z !!!

Hello DrPainMD,

I justed added another Outlaw Audio LFM-1+ to my system and I'm playing various BR discs for the LFE.

I have some time stamps for you:

Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl.

(1) Pirate's Life for Me; Chapter 1; (04:47 - 04:51) First sighting of the Black Pearl.

(2) Interceptor vs Black Pearl; Chapter 11 (01:21:21 - 01:35:00) basically the entire chapter here and there. It is not Master & Commander by any means.:D

(3) The Interceptor Explodes; Chapter 11 (01:30:50)

Thanks again for all of your hard work. This thread is my new favorite here at AVS!:)

Larry

I've added one more thing to make it more fun for users of this thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=8971063&postcount=4

I've added one more thing to make it more fun for users of this thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=8971063&postcount=4

Good idea, will we be nominating these on a weekly/monthly basis? What will be the criteria or will you just choose based on our reviews of the movies?

Excellent choice by the way. Tower has the Blu-ray on sale so I should be picking it up this weekend. :D

Good idea, will we be nominating these on a weekly/monthly basis? What will be the criteria or will you just choose based on our reviews of the movies?

Excellent choice by the way. Tower has the Blu-ray on sale so I should be picking it up this weekend. :D

Im not sure yet, I was hammered when I thought of it and went to bed. But I think it should be "bassed" on users reviews. :p

I finished adding the links to ALL the titles!

click away!

Im not sure yet, I was hammered when I thought of it and went to bed. But I think it should be "bassed" on users reviews. :p

:eek::cool::D

Actually the dd5.1 sound is quite good and that deep(i think) barracks explosion was little surprise.

yeah, i was right:p:D:cool:

boat explosion chapter 3
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/commando.jpg

barracks explosion chapter 23
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/commando1.jpg

Just went back....WOW that is cool....You really have to look at the right corner to see it. I wonder where Cloverfield 2 will be going with that!....The end is the beginning...:rolleyes:

I finished adding the links to ALL the titles!

click away!no surpise C'field is a fiver...

The Haunting is NOT a 5 star - maybe 3 star

Coming Mother!, Chap 10 (0:38:08) and
The Cold, Chap 10 (0:39:18)

in one "shooting"

http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/The_Haunting.JPG

"War" (2007) 7.1 16 Bit LPCM Blu-ray
1. Car Engine, Then Club Music, Chap ? (0:10:30)
2. Boom, Chap ? (0:13:34)
3. Flash Back, Chap ? (0:16:44)
4. Another Boom, Chap ? (123:32)
5. Another Flash Back, Chap ?(124:40)

Here are the chapters and I corrected some of the timestamps:

"War" (2007) 7.1 16 Bit LPCM Blu-ray
1. Car Engine, Then Club Music, Chap 2 (0:10:30)
2. Boom, Chap 3 (0:13:34)
3. Flash Back, Chap 3 (0:16:44)
4. Another Boom, Chap 13 (1:23:31)
5. Another Flash Back, Chap 14 (1:24:43)

Also, if anyone has this movie, can you do a waterfall for a scene for me?

Another Boom, Chap 13 (1:23:31 - 1:23:41)

I replayed those 10 secs about 5 times with a smile on my face the whole time.

Thanks

chapter 16 (1:38:16)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/endofdays1.jpg

chapter 18 (1:43:23)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/endofdays2.jpg

:)

Sorry, I'm arriving a little bit late to the game. I've had my home theater system for about a year now and am thinking about a blu-ray player as a new addition. I checked out this thread and am seeing that not all BR discs that have one of the new lossless audio formats have LPCM listed as an option. Does this mean that my Denon 3806, if playing a blu-ray disc without this LPCM option, will not be able to get lossless audio? I was under the assumption that if the BR player can produce decode the DTS-HD/True HD signal internally and output it, then it means that I will be able to receive an LPCM signal with my receiver on the other end. Can anyone tell me if I'm correct?

Return to House on Haunted Hill

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0827782/

F'n lots of BASS in the opening credits.

Tonnes of BASS in the whole movie, its a horror flick .

Sorry, I'm arriving a little bit late to the game. I've had my home theater system for about a year now and am thinking about a blu-ray player as a new addition. I checked out this thread and am seeing that not all BR discs that have one of the new lossless audio formats have LPCM listed as an option. Does this mean that my Denon 3806, if playing a blu-ray disc without this LPCM option, will not be able to get lossless audio? I was under the assumption that if the BR player can produce decode the DTS-HD/True HD signal internally and output it, then it means that I will be able to receive an LPCM signal with my receiver on the other end. Can anyone tell me if I'm correct?

As long as your BD player can decode TrueHD or DTS-MA to PCM and your receiver accepts PCM over either HDMI or analog you will be fine.

"Jumper" Blu-ray DTS-HD:MA
1. Chap ? (1:10:20)



Here is some updated info and I added a couple of other scenes:

"Jumper" Blu-ray DTS-HD:MA
1. Chap 7 (00:23:40)
2. Chap 20 (1:10:20)
3. Chap 22 ( 1:18:20)

If anyone has this that can do waterfalls, can you do Chap 20 (1:10:20 to 1:10:30), the scene may be shorter than 10 secs but you will get the full scene within this time.

(0:02:55)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/jumper.jpg

More later.:)

Well, I figure it won't only be for me, but for others who want to setup speclab. It would be a great help.

I'd like to see all the setup tabs. (if you have time)

But I'm thinking it has something to do with my drivers and sound card setup.


EDIT: I got it to work with a microphone, but it does'nt want to get anything straight from the dvd.


Thanks


The posted setup tabs helped my out a bit. I have set a few items different than those that were posted. It took me a while to figure out what tabs to touch and play with, and what to leave alone.

Did you ever get speclab to work with the DVD / line input?

I downloaded the program late last week and have played around with it quite a bit. I noticed that the DVD input from my receiver to the analog "line in" input of my soundcard had to be selected in my audio soundcard control program.

I also have to be careful of individual DVD's volume selection. It is easy to be too low or too high in volume level. Also, the analog "line in" input clipped earlier than the CD / Windows media player mix input. I found that it is very easy to get misleading results if the line input is too high.

I also noted that I got different results when the subwoofer line output of the receiver contains redirected bass as well as LFE.

I will probably post a few new not yet done waterfalls after I make sure that I get consistent results.

Here is my first trial. Spectrogram on the top shows the frequency distribution of the volume peak as shown on the amplitude plot located to the right of the waterfall. This image is for LFE plus redirected bass.


3:10 to Yuma, DD DVD

Time 0:07:25

Dan shoots cow.



http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm232/Red_Foreman/capt_310_to_Yuma_0hr_07min_25sec-1.jpg




This is the waterfall image from page 1 of this tread. My peak for this scene shows up in a different part of the spectrum. 30 to 40 Hz is the peak as I measured it, and the following waterfall shows the peak at under 10 Hz. They both can not be correct!


http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/118/12097839ut8.jpg

Did you ever get speclab to work with the DVD / line input?

Nope and its pissing me off, I can get it to work directly from my sub output to the line in of the sound card, but this way it only works when I adjust the volume on the amp. I have to play it loud to see the response in speclab, no good for me, when I'm doing it at 3am. :rolleyes:

I'm slowing piecing together an old desktop, old school!

Nope and its pissing me off, I can get it to work directly from my sub output to the line in of the sound card, but this way it only works when I adjust the volume on the amp. I have to play it loud to see the response in speclab, no good for me, when I'm doing it at 3am. :rolleyes:

I'm slowing piecing together an old desktop, old school!


The "record level control" on my PC's soundcard control interface is the only thing that changes the line input volume level to my sound card. The master volume only changes the line out volume. Still, I set the "record level" volume with the receiver after I adjust the soundcard "record level control" to a standard setting. I have a 50 foot long cable, and I set the record level so the 60 hz hum pickup is not seen on the Spectrum display.

Now that you mention it, my receiver's volume is also set to a healthy output level in order to get a good spectrum display. Pretty much near normal volume listening levels for the master volume control of the receiver (AKA about 10 dB below reference level). The good thing about that is I know about where to set the volume for the spectrum display. I just set the listening level to a little below normal listening levels for each individual DVD.

Do your preamp level outputs work if you set the speakers to Off or to Headphones? That may help for late night measurements.

The "record level control" on my PC's soundcard control interface is the only thing that changes the line input volume level to my sound card. The master volume only changes the line out volume. Still, I set the "record level" volume with the receiver after I adjust the soundcard "record level control" to a standard setting. I have a 50 foot long cable, and I set the record level so the 60 hz hum pickup is not seen on the Spectrum display.

Now that you mention it, my receiver's volume is also set to a healthy output level in order to get a good spectrum display. Pretty much near normal volume listening levels for the master volume control of the receiver (AKA about 10 dB below reference level). The good thing about that is I know about where to set the volume for the spectrum display. I just set the listening level to a little below normal listening levels for each individual DVD.

Do your preamp level outputs work if you set the speakers to Off or to Headphones? That may help for late night measurements.

I'm not sure right now, I just want to read straight from the dvd, no cables no headaches etc... stick in the dvd and thats it, like I've done before.

Two more 3:10 to Yuma spectrograms / waterfalls. Dan's shotgun blast #2 has the best punch on that DD DVD. The amplitude of that shot is high, and the spectrogram shows loads of high level bass.




Dan's shotgun blasts # 1 and 2. Time 1:41:59 for shot #1.

Spectrogram for shot #1.



http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm232/Red_Foreman/capt_310_to_Yuma_1hr_41min_59sec_10.jpg



Dan's shotgun blasts # 1 and 2. Time 1:42:11 for shot #2.

Spectrogram for shot #2. Notice how much louder shot # 2 is as compared with #1.



http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm232/Red_Foreman/capt_310_to_Yuma_1hr_42min_11sec_10.jpg

Can anyone that has the blu ray version of Hitman check out the trailer for Hitman in the extras part of the disc. Let me know if around the 30 second mark of the trailer the bass is absolutely ridiculous. It is very challenging for my dual 3.3 turbo with MBM-12. Please someone check it out and let me know what you think.

I just got done watching a horror movie from Finland called "Dark Floors." While it's certainly not a great movie by any stretch, it actually has some pretty good bass scenes throughout and a couple of chills.

[QUOTE=J_Palmer_Cass;14143460]Here is my first trial. Spectrogram on the top shows the frequency distribution of the volume peak as shown on the amplitude plot located to the right of the waterfall. This image is for LFE plus redirected bass.



Maybe because your using a different program? Spectrogram vs SpecLab ???

[QUOTE=J_Palmer_Cass;14143460]Here is my first trial. Spectrogram on the top shows the frequency distribution of the volume peak as shown on the amplitude plot located to the right of the waterfall. This image is for LFE plus redirected bass.



Maybe because your using a different program? Spectrogram vs SpecLab ???



Same program that is used here. I downloaded it from the link on page 1. I am following the basic instructions on this thread.

My display looks a bit different because I have simply turned on the options for the spectrogram (top display) and amplitude (side display). Most everyone else seems to use only the waterfall plot. I noticed that I was clipping at times, so I now monitor the amplitude plot for normal amplitude of the peaks.

Go the the Spectrum 1 tab, and look at "show" on the top right to select the display options. The 3D spectrum display is also pretty neat if you select that graph!

1. Wave Hits Ship, Chap 5

http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/Poseidon.JPG

10,000 BC has some really good bass scenes.

10,000 BC has some really good bass scenes.

Yes it does because the bass kept waking me up. The movie itself was horrible!:eek:

I am surprised to see that Rambo isn't on the list, hasn't anyone wathced it or doesn't it have any good bass scenes?

I will be watching it tonight so if there is anything good in it I will let you know.

Hey all . . .

I've been following this thread off and on for a while. I was pleased to see the post of Star Wars LFE a few pages back, and I was wondering if anyone who owns the original, unaltered version of the film could post some charts.

Obviously, it's not going to be like the special edition remix in terms of bass content, seeing as it's a DD 2.0 version of the '93 laserdisc pcm soundtrack, but I only watch that version of the movie now, because I'm sick of the special edition changes. I'm just curious how it compares . . . it sounds pretty good on my stereo setup, but I'm not sure how much I'm missing by not having a sub crossed over. Time to get a sub soon, methinks.

Thanks. :)

Spiderwick Chronicles in Dolby True HD sounds incredible in the bass arena. Anytime the ring around the house is messed with and anytime the big monster comes out, the bass is nuts.

I agree but I can't Spec it due to my main comp being down.

Watched Cloverfield (SD DVD) today. It was pretty good. There were definitely some good/great bass scenes. One scene (I forget), I thought my walls were going to crack.

Yes, I'm back in the Game!
I finally got an old pc working to do waterfalls!!!!

:):cool::D:p:eek:

Any requests from Cloverfield (SD DVD)?

Yes, I'm back in the Game!
I finally got an old pc working to do waterfalls!!!!

:):cool::D:p:eek:

Any requests from Cloverfield (SD DVD)?

Glad to hear it! Yeah do you have a plot of the LFE in chapter 17? I think that's when my walls were about to crack...

Glad to hear it! Yeah do you have a plot of the LFE in chapter 17? I think that's when my walls were about to crack...

do you remember the time or what was going on?

I watched Rambo this weekend, it was ok I guess there were a few bass spots, mostly from explosions but there were a couple that did put a smile on my face.

Rambo Blu-Ray DTS-MA 7.1
Chap 6 00:27:47
Chap 12 01:05:51
Chap 13 01:08:26
Chap 14 01:11:37

You could really include ALL of chapter 14 as the entire chapter is full of it.

I also watched Narnia, I should have those numbers tomorrow.

I watched Rambo this weekend, it was ok I guess there were a few bass spots, mostly from explosions but there were a couple that did put a smile on my face.

Rambo Blu-Ray DTS-MA 7.1
Chap 6 00:27:47
Chap 12 01:05:51
Chap 13 01:08:26
Chap 14 01:11:37

You could really include ALL of chapter 14 as the entire chapter is full of it.

I also watched Narnia, I should have those numbers tomorrow.

thanks for all the times Kevin, keep up the good work! :cool:

I will add all the info from this page to the main list.

Glad to hear it! Yeah do you have a plot of the LFE in chapter 17? I think that's when my walls were about to crack...

I just checked and there is no chap 17 :confused:

Spiderwick Chronicles in Dolby True HD sounds incredible in the bass arena. Anytime the ring around the house is messed with and anytime the big monster comes out, the bass is nuts.

You are correct Shane! I am looking forward to the BR version.

The Spiderwick Chronicles [DVD] DD 5.1

Wax Seal, Chapter 1 (01:59 – 02:03)
Field Guide Opening, Chapter 4 (16:19 – 16:22)
Toadstool Ring, Chapter 5 (21:22)
Mulgarath, Chapter 6 (30:50 – 31:05)
Toadstool Ring, Chapter 6 (35:21 & 36:28)
Mole Troll, Chapter 7 (44:27 – 44:31)
Griffin, Chapter 9 (1:01:18 – 1:01:29)
Griffin, Chapter 10 (1:09:07)
Toadstool Ring, Chapter 11 (01:10:31)
Exploding Stove, Chapter 11 (01:15:30) Larry

You are correct Shane! I am looking forward to the BR version.

The Spiderwick Chronicles [DVD] DD 5.1

Wax Seal, Chapter 1 (01:59 – 02:03)
Field Guide Opening, Chapter 4 (16:19 – 16:22)
Toadstool Ring, Chapter 5 (21:22)
Mulgarath, Chapter 6 (30:50 – 31:05)
Toadstool Ring, Chapter 6 (35:21 & 36:28)
Mole Troll, Chapter 7 (44:27 – 44:31)
Griffin, Chapter 9 (1:01:18 – 1:01:29)
Griffin, Chapter 10 (1:09:07)
Toadstool Ring, Chapter 11 (01:10:31)
Exploding Stove, Chapter 11 (01:15:30) Larry


omg someone who actually read the first post, and gets it! (almost ;) )

will add these to the list

thank you laugsbach....

EDIT:

Added it...

"The Spiderwick Chronicles" SE Blu-ray TrueHD
1. Wax Seal, Chap 1 (0:01:59 – 0:02:03)
2. Field Guide Opening, Chap 4 (0:16:19 – 0:16:22)
3. Toadstool Ring, Chap 5 (0:21:22)
4. Mulgarath, Chap 6 (0:30:50 – 0:31:05)
5. Toadstool Ring, Chap 6 (0:35:21 & 0:36:28)
6. Mole Troll, Chap 7 (0:44:27 – 0:44:31)
7. Griffin, Chap 9 (1:01:18 – 1:01:29)
8. Griffin, Chap 10 (1:09:07)
9. Toadstool Ring, Chap 11 (1:10:31)
10. Exploding Stove, Chap 11 (1:15:30)

I just checked and there is no chap 17 :confused:

Ooops. Meant 14.

Ooops. Meant 14.

I was looking for like two days!!! you bloody bas...:mad:


























just kiddin' :D :p :cool:


what time in chap 14? there's lots to choose from....


nevermind, I'm just gonna do all the timestamps that are listed that don't have waterfalls.. give me an hour or so and you'll have it.

[quote=DrPainMD;14185895]omg someone who actually read the first post, and gets it! (almost ;) )

What did I do wrong DrPainMD.:eek::eek::eek:

Larry

[quote=DrPainMD;14185895]omg someone who actually read the first post, and gets it! (almost ;) )

What did I do wrong DrPainMD.:eek::eek::eek:

Larry

lol, no biggie, you just had some of the times in a different format than I do (extra 0's where mot needed) and you had "chapter" instead of "chap". Sure its easy to copy and paste but when I have to edit it, you know.... it takes more time.

no harm no foul

lol, no biggie, you just had some of the times in a different format than I do (extra 0's where mot needed) and you had "chapter" instead of "chap". Sure its easy to copy and paste but when I have to edit it, you know.... it takes more time. no harm no foul

Well DrPainMD, my wife calls me Lexus...the relentless pursuit of perfection.:D

I will copy & paste your template to my computer and do it right the next time. It's the least I can do for you.

BTW, I am really looking forward to the Waterfall from Cloverfield, Chap 4 (0:18:19).

Larry

Well DrPainMD, my wife calls me Lexus...the relentless pursuit of perfection.:D

I will copy & paste your template to my computer and do it right the next time. It's the least I can do for you.

BTW, I am really looking forward to the Waterfall from Cloverfield, Chap 4 (0:18:19).

Larry

thanks, you got a great wife!

happiness is great!

heres that waterfall:

Cloverfield, Chap 4 (0:18:19)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3137/2622411015_47af1ee8cf_o.jpg


not 100% on my settings for the colors.

I'm off to watch the new Rambo on TV.

Here are the timestamps for Narnia, the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe. After going back to list the bass times there were more than I remembered. Some of them were suttle but deep none the less, I could tell from the vibrations.

Narnia, the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe Blu-ray PCM 5.1
Chap 1 00:01:00
Chap 3 00:11:16
Chap 5 00:29:44
Chap 12 01:06:52
Chap 13 01:15:00
Chap 16 01:34:42
Chap 19 01:49:42 (This is a full battle scene so there are plenty of bass effects here)
Chap 20 01:53:27
Chap 22 02:00:48
Chap 22 02:01:42
Chap 22 02:02:06

For those that can do waterfalls, if you have this movie can you please plot Chap 20 01:53:27, I believe 10 secs should cover it but it may be less than that. I am curious to see how low this scene went.

Thanks

Can someone check out the scene at the beginning where the mammoths stampede in 10,000B.C.? The movie wasn't great but this scene had a lot of bass. The rest of the bass in the movie wasn't all that impressive except for 2 other parts and they were nothing like the mammoth stampede.

Can someone check out the scene at the beginning where the mammoths stampede in 10,000B.C.? The movie wasn't great but this scene had a lot of bass. The rest of the bass in the movie wasn't all that impressive except for 2 other parts and they were nothing like the mammoth stampede.


It was no comparison to Jurassic Park. The bass levels through out were not very hot.

Ian

Alien vs. Predator Requiem BLU RAY DTS-MA


Seriously, my subwoofer was active 90% of the movie! I'd like to see some waterfalls on that!

Alien vs. Predator Requiem BLU RAY DTS-MA


Seriously, my subwoofer was active 90% of the movie! I'd like to see some waterfalls on that!


Which chapter?

Time stamp?

The whole movie. LOL

The Nuclear Blast at the end.....

Seriously the movie is a bass fest.


I rented it on BLURAY and I don't have it anymore so I'm no help with timestamps..

The whole movie. LOL

The Nuclear Blast at the end.....

Seriously the movie is a bass fest

:D I loved that part. So much cloths flapping.

Alien vs. Predator Requiem BLU RAY DTS-MA


Seriously, my subwoofer was active 90% of the movie! I'd like to see some waterfalls on that!

Does it out do Cloverfield?

Hey Doc,

I've enjoyed this thread immensely. Excellent work. :cool:

I wanted to give a heads up to see if anyone might be inclined to post a waterfall of a couple of scenes from Vantage Point.

Chapter 14 42:39-41
Chapter 17 5:36-41

These should have some very low stuff unless I've taken leave of my senses. :D

Thanks for the superb resource.

Bosso

Hey Doc,

I've enjoyed this thread immensely. Excellent work. :cool:

I wanted to give a heads up to see if anyone might be inclined to post a waterfall of a couple of scenes from Vantage Point.

Chapter 14 42:39-41
Chapter 17 5:36-41

These should have some very low stuff unless I've taken leave of my senses. :D

Thanks for the superb resource.

Bosso

Thank You very much Bosso, coming from you it's a great compliment and it means allot.

I've have your excellent setup tips in my "Setting Up Your Subwoofer 101" (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1004573) thread : Subwoofer Setup Guide by Bossobass (http://av123forum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3418)

Hi Doc,

Just wondering when to expect the next Movie of the Month post?

Obi

Hi Doc,

Just wondering when to expect the next Movie of the Month post?

Obi

less than two weeks or so...?

Hi Doc,

Just wondering when to expect the next Movie of the Month post?

Obi

Cloverfield is so good, it should be the movie of the month for at least two months.:D

Larry

The Seeker DVD DD5.1

Chap 22 (1:25:00 - 1:25:40)

Please note: the time above is taken from a Region 4 PAL disc, so it will not correspond exactly with the Region 1 NTSC version. A rough calculated time for the NTSC version is 1:21:45 - 1:22:25. Hopefully someone can confirm this.

I thought the sound design for this movie was quite good - pity the movie itself was crap. Definitely only good for a rental. It would be great to see a waterfall for the 40 seconds above.

Thanks for this awesome thread - only recently came across it. I hope to add more movies in the near future

Hey Doc,

I've enjoyed this thread immensely. Excellent work. :cool:

I wanted to give a heads up to see if anyone might be inclined to post a waterfall of a couple of scenes from Vantage Point.

Chapter 14 42:39-41
Chapter 17 5:36-41

These should have some very low stuff unless I've taken leave of my senses. :D

Thanks for the superb resource.

Bosso

I think you may need to double check your chapters and timestamps, Vantage Point doesn't have 17 chapters.

Here are the bass timestamps for Vantage Point (note, because the movie shows the same scene about 5 times and that includes 2 bombs going off each time I only included each bomb once, when it sounded the deepest to me.)

Vantage Point Blu-ray Dolby TrueHD 5.1
Chap 8 00:37:24
Chap 10 00:50:03

Alien vs. Predator Requiem BLU RAY DTS-MA


Seriously, my subwoofer was active 90% of the movie! I'd like to see some waterfalls on that!

anyone else see this movie?

anyone else see this movie?

Yes, there is some deep bass, scene where pred ship hits atmosphere was nice.

anyone else see this movie?



3 others have comments........One To (NOT) Watch !

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/3348555/Aliens-Vs-Predator-Requiem-Ultimate-Combat-Edition/Product.html

Eragon DTS-HDMA

Chp1 - 4:57
Chp5 - 19:19

its causing terrible vibration from walls, doors. no other disc has done this b4, although i havent tried WOTW :o

anyone knows what frequency range those 2 are in?

found nothing here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=755493

"Eragon" DTS Blu-ray DTS-HD:MA
1. Chap 4 (0:15:03) 20Hz
2. Chap 6 (0:22:16) 25Hz
3. Chap 7 (0:28:57) 25Hz
4. Chap 9 (0:35:58) 20Hz
5. Chap 10 (0:40:55) 25Hz
6. Chap 13 (0:51:49) 20Hz
7. Chap 14 (0:57:53) 10 & 32Hz (Loudest)
8. Chap 15 (1:01:53) 20Hz
9. Chap 19 (1:21:42) 24Hz
10. Chap 21 (1:25:16) 20Hz

Vantage Point. ;)



Ian

The Seeker DVD DD5.1

Chap 22 (1:25:00 - 1:25:40)

Please note: the time above is taken from a Region 4 PAL disc, so it will not correspond exactly with the Region 1 NTSC version. A rough calculated time for the NTSC version is 1:21:45 - 1:22:25. Hopefully someone can confirm this.

I thought the sound design for this movie was quite good - pity the movie itself was crap. Definitely only good for a rental. It would be great to see a waterfall for the 40 seconds above.

Thanks for this awesome thread - only recently came across it. I hope to add more movies in the near future

which movie is this?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0484562/

or

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0456003/

I think you may need to double check your chapters and timestamps, Vantage Point doesn't have 17 chapters.

Here are the bass timestamps for Vantage Point (note, because the movie shows the same scene about 5 times and that includes 2 bombs going off each time I only included each bomb once, when it sounded the deepest to me.)

Vantage Point Blu-ray Dolby TrueHD 5.1
Chap 8 00:37:24
Chap 10 00:50:03

would you mind including all the times ?

Sorry Doc, sent it back to Netflix already :o

If a movie on regular DVD has DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1 and new Blu ray or HD DVD versions have also DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1, is there sound difference between them? I guess not but not 100% sure.

More specific, I want to buy the Lord of Ring platinum editions (already had the King) with DTS 6.1 and DD 5.1 sound. But I also wanted to wait for the Blu ray version and am not sure if the Blue ray version will have better sounds on the DTS 6.1 and DD 5.1 tracks. Of course if they add some new sound tracks it's another story.

Just wanted to let anyone know that Daredevil is a realll subsonic treat :)

I watched for the first time on my new system and wow!! this movie really should get some more attention! The accident scene and bar scene are absolutely ridiculous!

Sooo yeah go check it out and let me know what you all think!

PS: I vote for it to get bumped up to at least 4 stars :)

Not exactly a marvel of modern cinema, but their are a few gunfight scenes in the BR Version of Hitman that completely energized my sub. The one in particular is when he stops in on the gun dealing brother of the president.

Gunfire just pounded the snot out of things. The whole movie had some great LFE activity. Nothing like Cloverfield, but still very nice.

If a movie on regular DVD has DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1 and new Blu ray or HD DVD versions have also DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1, is there sound difference between them? I guess not but not 100% sure.

More specific, I want to buy the Lord of Ring platinum editions (already had the King) with DTS 6.1 and DD 5.1 sound. But I also wanted to wait for the Blu ray version and am not sure if the Blue ray version will have better sounds on the DTS 6.1 and DD 5.1 tracks. Of course if they add some new sound tracks it's another story.

That would depend on the type of version or regional DVD has I have noticed with some films like Always (1989) the bass level in certain parts of the film have a fuller low end on language tracks. It takes good trained ear to spot these tiny little almost insignificant details. I believe it’s the Germany language track in Dolby 4:2: 4 not that it matters I’ve seen this film projected quite a few times in two different cinemas when I was projectionist, and the Dolby stereo A type wasn’t a bad matrix mix.

The DVD offers Dolby 4.1 in way its close to the 70mm Dolby stereo six-track magnetic with two “boom channels” and single monaural surround LCR as lots and lots of cool dialogue panning going.

Check out the scene where Ted flies back to the fire fighting training school and small track starts up all by its self, while Ted follows its around on the runway, note the bass level on the different language tracks.

Another title is Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) region 2 not sure how many different languages are on the region 1 or other regionally encoded DVD, but check out the scene where Indiana Jones walks into tent on the archaeology dig site, only to find Marion alive, there is deep bass note that is not as full on the DVD. The widescreen laserdisc is fuller and it’s got nothing to do with PCM its down to piss poor supervision of the films soundtrack.

Titanic (1997) is more fuller on the first edition DVD where I noticed the sound of James Horner score where Jack and Fabrizio are standing on the bow of the grand ole ocean liner, there’s a bottlenose dolphin, that leaps out of the water, with nice low end on the score. The second DVD special edition not so special so be aware of double dipping especially if its Bluray!!!

Just wanted to let anyone know that Daredevil is a realll subsonic treat :)

I watched for the first time on my new system and wow!! this movie really should get some more attention! The accident scene and bar scene are absolutely ridiculous!

Sooo yeah go check it out and let me know what you all think!

PS: I vote for it to get bumped up to at least 4 stars :)

yah its a good movie for bass, will bump it to 4 stars

If a movie on regular DVD has DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1 and new Blu ray or HD DVD versions have also DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1, is there sound difference between them? I guess not but not 100% sure.
On BR and HD DVD, DD and DTS are presented at higher bitrates. DTS is 1506k or full bitrate and DD audio is 640. Most DVD's are 448 DD (or less) and 768 DTS unless you bought the only Warner DTS titles or the early DTS only titles.

They do sound better. When you add on lossless, the difference is not even close. DVD takes a back seat everytime.

i just saw "The Astronaut Farmer" (2006) on Cinemax HD in dolby digital a few days ago and WOW, i can't believe this movie is not listed here yet

the rocket launch scene doesn't shake my house, it moves it !!!!!!!

i only caught the 2nd 1/2 of the movie and the scene where the rocket takes off and then the re-entry were the only scenes with bass but the take off scene is incredible !!!!!

it looks like the movie is on today in SD on Cinemax @ 5:30pm but i'm not sure if the SD channel is in dolby digital

it's on again in HD on 7/20 @ 2:15pm

i'm going to watch the movie from the beginning today @ 5:30 to see if the Cinemax SD channel has dolby digital and to see if there's any other bass worth mentioning in the first 1/2 of the movie and i'll try and get a time stamp for the rocket launch scene

it looks like a movie worth watching too

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0469263/

I rented "I am Legend" (SD) for tonight. I will post the missing waterfalls and other any requests for waterfalls tonight or tomorrow.

"I Am Legend" HD-DVD Blu-ray TrueHD
1. Chap 3 (0:07:45 - 0:07:53) 10Hz
2. Chap 3 (0:12:08)
3. Chap 7 (0:26:08 - 0:26:50) 1Hz WaterFall (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch7.jpg)
4. Chap 12 (0:42:22 - 0:44:16) 5Hz WaterFall (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch12.jpg)
5. Chap 13 (0:47:25 - 0:47:30, 0:48:02 - 0:48:12)
6. Chap 14 (0:52:15 - 0:53:30) 3Hz WaterFall (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch1443.jpg)
7. Chap 17-18 (1:01:07 - 1:04:54) 3Hz
8. Chap 23 (1:21:00 - 1:24:15)
9. Chap 24 (1:25:20 - 1:30:14)

DrPain, don't you have a BD player?

DrPain, don't you have a BD player?

nope, only the xbox360 hd-dvd drive

i just saw "The Astronaut Farmer" (2006) on Cinemax HD in dolby digital a few days ago and WOW, i can't believe this movie is not listed here yet

the rocket launch scene doesn't shake my house, it moves it !!!!!!!

i only caught the 2nd 1/2 of the movie and the scene where the rocket takes off and then the re-entry were the only scenes with bass but the take off scene is incredible !!!!!

it looks like the movie is on today in SD on Cinemax @ 5:30pm but i'm not sure if the SD channel is in dolby digital

it's on again in HD on 7/20 @ 2:15pm

i'm going to watch the movie from the beginning today @ 5:30 to see if the Cinemax SD channel has dolby digital and to see if there's any other bass worth mentioning in the first 1/2 of the movie and i'll try and get a time stamp for the rocket launch scene

it looks like a movie worth watching too

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0469263/

ok, it looks like there are 2 launch scenes. the 1st one looks like it might even be more intense than the 2nd one but i wont be sure till i here the dolby digital version (the @max channel only showed it in pro-logic, i have to wait to see it again in digital or rent the dvd)

the first launch is at 1 hour 4 minutes

the 2nd launch is at 1 hour 24 minutes

each scene has tons of bass that lasts between 30 and 60 seconds

the first launch looks more intense because it blows the windows out of the house (literally in the movie windows shatter and pictures fall off the wall) and it almost sounds like a gunshot when the rocket ignites

the re-entry scene is at 1 hour and 35 minutes

ok, it looks like there are 2 launch scenes. the 1st one looks like it might even be more intense than the 2nd one but i wont be sure till i here the dolby digital version (the @max channel only showed it in pro-logic, i have to wait to see it again in digital or rent the dvd)

the first launch is at 1 hour 4 minutes

the 2nd launch is at 1 hour 24 minutes

each scene has tons of bass that lasts between 30 and 60 seconds

the first launch looks more intense because it blows the windows out of the house (literally in the movie windows shatter and pictures fall off the wall) and it almost sounds like a gunshot when the rocket ignites

the re-entry scene is at 1 hour and 35 minutes

I rented this movie some time ago, but then forget it totally... yeah those launch scenes was pretty intense. Maybe i rent it again someday and put some waterfalls here .

I rented "I am Legend" (SD) for tonight. I will post the missing waterfalls and other any requests for waterfalls tonight or tomorrow.

"I Am Legend" HD-DVD Blu-ray TrueHD
1. Chap 3 (0:07:45 -0:07:53) 10Hz
2. Chap 3 (0:12:08)
3. Chap 7 (0:26:08 - 0:26:50) 1Hz WaterFall (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch7.jpg)
4. Chap 12 (0:42:22 - 0:44:16) -5Hz WaterFall (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch12.jpg)
5. Chap 13 (0:47:25 -0:47:30, 0:48:02 - 0:48:12)
6. Chap 14 (0:52:15 - 0:53:30) 3Hz WaterFall (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch1443.jpg)
7. Chap 17-18 (1:01:07 - 1:04:54) 3Hz
8. Chap 23 (1:21:00 - 1:24:15)
9. Chap 24 (1:25:20 - 1:30:14)
THe chapter 12 `-5Hz' one is a TYPO on my part.