The Master List of DVD, HD-DVD & Blu-ray Movies with BASS Thread...With WaterFalls [Text View] - Page 8

otk

07-20-08, 02:35 PM

ok, it looks like there are 2 launch scenes. the 1st one looks like it might even be more intense than the 2nd one but i wont be sure till i here the dolby digital version (the @max channel only showed it in pro-logic, i have to wait to see it again in digital or rent the dvd)

the first launch is at 1 hour 4 minutes

the 2nd launch is at 1 hour 24 minutes

each scene has tons of bass that lasts between 30 and 60 seconds

the first launch looks more intense because it blows the windows out of the house (literally in the movie windows shatter and pictures fall off the wall) and it almost sounds like a gunshot when the rocket ignites

the re-entry scene is at 1 hour and 35 minutes

just a reminder, the movie "The Astronaut Farmer" just started on cinemax in HD and dolby digital @ 2:15 so the first launch scene should be coming up around 3:19 give or take a minute (eastern time zone)

Kevin12586

07-20-08, 02:44 PM

I watched 10,000 B.C. last night in Blu-ray and it was better than I thought it would be. Here are the timestamps for you, enjoy :)

10,000 B.C. Blu-ray Dolby TrueHD 5.1

Chap 1 00:03:14
Chap 3-4 00:11:05 - 00:15:43 (this is a scene full of mammoths running so there is bass throughout)
Chap 6 00:20:34
Chap 6 00:21:13
Chap 6 00:22:28
Chap 6 00:23:06
Chap 7 00:27:23
Chap 10 00:38:34
Chap 11 00:42:02
Chap 11 00:44:10
Chap 12 00:47:08
Chap 16 01:02:42
Chap 16 01:03:26
Chap 16 01:04:23
Chap 17 01:06:30
Chap 19 01:17:16
Chap 21 01:21:10
Chap 21 01:21:33
Chap 21-22 01:23:16 - 01:24:16 (this is a scene full of mammoths running so there is bass throughout)
Chap 22 01:25:00

Whew :D

Is that enough for you DrPain? ;)

lfe man

07-20-08, 03:50 PM

car crash chap1 (0:05:06)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/mhdchap10506.jpg

man behind winkies chap3 (0:15:37)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/mhdchap31537.jpg

trip to club silencio chap11 (1:39:30)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/mhdchap1113930.jpg

some scary bass.:eek:

sound dropouts

07-20-08, 03:58 PM

I have just watched pearl harbor, and think that its bass belongs at 3.5 to 4 stars...it is better than transformers, incredibles, and King Kong.

I also think that matrix revolutions should be higher than 300, which only had one or two decent bass scenes.

Kevin12586

07-20-08, 04:41 PM

I also think that matrix revolutions should be higher than 300, which only had one or two decent bass scenes.

Agreed

DrPainMD

07-20-08, 05:32 PM

thanks for all the new info people, I'm in the process of uploading some "I am Legend" waterfalls.

Will add all info soonish....

SbWillie

07-20-08, 08:15 PM

I think DK will be better than BB from a bass perspective...the shotgun blasts and some of the other gun shots were very good, and while the theater struggled with some of it, I am sure there was deep bass in the prowler chase scenesWell even in the backup theater I had to see it in the club sequence pressureized the room and the first clip of the Tumbler tore the joint up...YES the film is a MASTERPIECE overall moviewise as well....

:D:D
11/10, 5 stars,etc!

sound dropouts

07-20-08, 08:18 PM

Well even in the backup theater I had to see it in the club sequence pressureized the room and the first clip of the Tumbler tore the joint up...

You must have good theaters in your area....

Drakan

07-21-08, 06:59 PM

ok, it looks like there are 2 launch scenes. the 1st one looks like it might even be more intense than the 2nd one but i wont be sure till i here the dolby digital version (the @max channel only showed it in pro-logic, i have to wait to see it again in digital or rent the dvd)

the first launch is at 1 hour 4 minutes

the 2nd launch is at 1 hour 24 minutes

each scene has tons of bass that lasts between 30 and 60 seconds

the first launch looks more intense because it blows the windows out of the house (literally in the movie windows shatter and pictures fall off the wall) and it almost sounds like a gunshot when the rocket ignites

the re-entry scene is at 1 hour and 35 minutes
From the dvd...
cap03 is the first launch.
cap04 is the second.
Seems like great bass.

DrPainMD

07-21-08, 07:46 PM

Got some WaterFalls for "I Am Legend" SD version taken straight from the DVD.
The most notable ones being:
10. Evacuation, Chap 12 (0:42:22 - 0:44:16) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/2690111843_1274b2a2e6_o.jpg) WaterFall (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch12.jpg)

"I Am Legend" HD-DVD Blu-ray TrueHD
1. Miracle Cure, Chap 1 (0:02:10) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2690108457_057e082d47_o.jpg)
2. Fellow Hunters, Chap 2 (0:03:15 - 0:04:20) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3278/2690921048_2ac5e1b528_o.jpg)
3. Fellow Hunters, Chap 2 (0:04:50 - 0:05:35) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/2690921448_1946bcd997_o.jpg)
4. In for the night, Chap 3 (0:07:45 -0:07:53) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/2690921694_c6696522a8_o.jpg)
5. In for the night, Chap 3 (0:11:50 - 0:12:08) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3083/2690922014_00c5fc32ec_o.jpg)
6. Shop And Forage, Chap 6 (0:21:33) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3187/2690110207_5ed1912743_o.jpg)
7. Seaport At Midday, Chap 7 (0:25:55 - 0:26:50) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3201/2690110601_cff8856c7f_o.jpg) WaterFall (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch7.jpg)
8. Race To The Light, Chap 8 (0:29:55) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/2690922906_1a3099ccee_o.jpg)
9. Race To The Light, Chap 8 (0:31:29 - 0:31:45) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2690111229_1a6726bb6b_o.jpg)
10. Evacuation, Chap 12 (0:42:22 - 0:44:16) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/2690111843_1274b2a2e6_o.jpg) WaterFall (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch12.jpg)
11. Man Trap, Chap 13 (0:47:25 - 0:48:30) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3090/2690112223_1cd6ac007f_o.jpg)
12. Dogs Of Sundown, Chap 14 (0:50:10) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3195/2690112407_35e79f8da6_o.jpg)
13. Dogs Of Sundown, Chap 14 (0:51:55 - 0:52:40) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/2690112885_3d1690aa51_o.jpg) WaterFall (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/Sbwillie/IamLegendch1443.jpg)
14. Swarm Of The Infected, Chap 17 (1:00:39 - 1:01:50) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2690925822_6b02972ab0_o.jpg)
15. Swarm Of The Infected, Chap 17 - 18 (1:01:50 - 1:03:05) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/2690926308_da07ac7ceb_o.jpg)
16. Family Tragedy, Chap 18 (1:03:05 - 1:04:10) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2690926920_24056f7884_o.jpg)
17. Family Tragedy, Chap 18 (1:04:10 - 1:04:30) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2690927292_673b0e54a2_o.jpg)
18. God Told Me, Chap 22 (1:17:30) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/2690927608_d007fc8175_o.jpg)
19. Home Invasion, Chap 23 (1:20:35 - 1:21:25) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2690115953_490f85a4dd_o.jpg)
20. Home Invasion, Chap 23 (1:22:27 - 1:23:27) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/2690928578_583f5dab24_o.jpg)
21. Home Invasion, Chap 23 (1:23:27 - 1:24:03) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3134/2690929088_2904031aec_o.jpg)
22. Home Invasion, Chap 23 (1:24:03 - 1:24:50) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3023/2690117485_7fdf4ed79e_o.jpg)
23. I Can Save You, Chap 24 (1:24:40 - 1:25:45) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3134/2690117969_70f189461a_o.jpg)
24. I Can Save You, Chap 24 (1:25:45 - 1:26:44) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/2690930580_5bf6fd2a29_o.jpg)
25. I Can Save You, Chap 24 (1:26:25 - 1:27:25) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2690118861_722aec6958_o.jpg)
26. I Can Save You, Chap 24 (1:27:53 - 1:29:00) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/2690119321_3e73847579_o.jpg)
27. I Can Save You, Chap 24 (1:29:00 - 1:30:00) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3265/2690119827_7edee35c03_o.jpg)
28. His Legend, Chap 25 (1:30:50) WaterFall (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3175/2690120189_fa98824b21_o.jpg)

DrPainMD

07-21-08, 07:56 PM

I thought since you were hanging out in the BD section that you had a player. You should make that one of your next upgrades so you can exprience the better audio and video quality ;)

I hang there to get BR info for this thread. I wont be getting a BR player in the near future, still working on my speaker upgrades. But who knows if they come down in price alot....maybe.

DrPainMD

07-21-08, 08:12 PM

Added:

"10,000 BC" LE Blu-ray TrueHD
1. Chap 1 (0:03:14
2. Chap 3-4 (0:11:05 - 0:15:43)
3. Chap 6 (0:20:34)
4. Chap 6 (0:21:13)
5. Chap 6 (0:22:28)
6. Chap 6 (0:23:06)
7. Chap 7 (0:27:23)
8. Chap 10 (0:38:34)
9. Chap 11 (0:42:02)
10. Chap 11 (0:44:10)
11. Chap 12 (0:47:08)
12. Chap 16 (1:02:42)
13. Chap 16 (1:03:26)
14. Chap 16 (1:04:23)
15. Chap 17 (1:06:30)
16. Chap 19 (1:17:16)
17. Chap 21 (1:21:10)
18. Chap 21 (1:21:33)
19. Chap 21 - 22 (1:23:16 - 1:24:16)
20. Chap 22 (1:25:00)

"Mulholland Dr." DTS
1. Car Crash, Chap 1 (0:05:06) WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/mhdchap10506.jpg)
2. Man Behind Winkies, Chap 3 (0:15:37) WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/mhdchap31537.jpg)
3. Trip To Club Silencio, Chap 11 (1:39:30) WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/mhdchap1113930.jpg)

Shutter (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0482599/) Blu-ray DTS-HD:MA

DrPainMD

07-21-08, 08:33 PM

cap03 is the first launch.
cap04 is the second.
Seems like great bass.

those seem to be odd chapters for those times ???

DrPainMD

07-21-08, 08:34 PM

Anybody have suggestions for Bass the DVD, Blu-ray Movie off the Month?

otk

07-21-08, 08:50 PM

Anybody have suggestions for Bass Movie off the month?

has to be the new batman movie

Kevin12586

07-22-08, 08:36 AM

I just watched Cloverfield this weekend so I still recommend that :D

Drakan

07-22-08, 10:45 AM

those seem to be odd chapters for those times ???

:). Those are just file names from Speclab. I will have get the chapters a little later. Work :(.

SbWillie

07-23-08, 06:21 PM

has to be the new batman movieyep! :going again next weekend! only it will be @ the WARREN! DOne right!

DrPainMD

07-23-08, 06:32 PM

NEW (but an oldie but a goodie) BASS MOVIE OF THE MONTH/WEEK

Going out on a wing here :rolleyes: :p

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=8971063&postcount=4

laugsbach

07-23-08, 08:58 PM

^^^^^^^^

Doc, the Bass Movie of the Month/Week Post looks awesome. I have BB on HD-DVD. I'm off to fire it up!

Larry

lfe man

07-23-08, 09:10 PM

Not bad choice. I just checked some scenes from it... scene where gary oldmans character shoots second round into monorail pillars was cool.

bori

07-23-08, 09:17 PM

NEW (but an oldie but a goodie) BASS MOVIE OF THE MONTH/WEEK

Going out on a wing here :rolleyes: :p

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=8971063&postcount=4

Its no Cloverfield but, if you have to chose a new one that will work.

MKtheater

07-23-08, 09:48 PM

Yes, the bass in Batman Begins is not up to Cloverfield standards BUT The bass is still loud(120 db's uncorrected) and the movie is much better. A great recommendation especially with the new one out, which is probably the best comic book movie yet.

DrPainMD

07-24-08, 04:27 AM

I had a hard time finding a new one, just picked that one since the new one is out. :rolleyes:

I have a couple of choices for Sept. ;) :cool:

Kevin12586

07-24-08, 08:26 AM

I also just re-watched that one, I guess that will work as well. ;)

DrPainMD

07-24-08, 08:31 AM

I also just re-watched that one, I guess that will work as well. ;)

when playing BB you can live vicariously and pretend its DK :p :rolleyes:

Kevin12586

07-24-08, 01:11 PM

when playing BB you can live vicariously and pretend its DK :p :rolleyes:

I have the BD that has the first 6 minutes of the DK so pretending won't be too hard ;)

I will be seeing DK on Saturday though :)

lfe man

07-24-08, 07:53 PM

I have the BD that has the first 6 minutes of the DK so pretending won't be too hard ;)

I will be seeing DK on Saturday though :)

Enjoy great bass from dk(especially hospital boom):eek::p:D

Kevin12586

07-25-08, 08:37 AM

Enjoy great bass from dk(especially hospital boom):eek::p:D

If I was at home watching the BD then I would be looking forward to it. But since we are going to the theater who knows how it will sound. :confused:

coolstrategist

07-25-08, 08:53 AM

I have the BD that has the first 6 minutes of the DK so pretending won't be too hard ;)

I will be seeing DK on Saturday though :)

What BD has 6 minutes of DK and where did you get it?

laugsbach

07-25-08, 10:28 AM

What BD has 6 minutes of DK and where did you get it?

I don't have the disc but I would guess it is the Blu-ray release of Batman Begins that would have a trailer for the Dark Knight.

Larry

Kevin12586

07-25-08, 01:07 PM

I don't have the disc but I would guess it is the Blu-ray release of Batman Begins that would have a trailer for the Dark Knight.

Larry

Correct

ChrisAttebery

07-25-08, 04:13 PM

Started watching Transformers on DVD last night. The bass is definately a little wierd. In the first attack scene where the robot is blowing up everything in sight there's barely any bass when the planes and tanks are being thrown about. Meanwhile, in other places the bass is overblown for the action on the screen.

I just saw BB for the first time. I Tivo-ed it, so it wasn't the best sound, but it was very respectable and the movie was pretty good.

The disclaimer: I'm watching everything on my PC using a pair of Sennheiser headphones. I forget the model, but they have very good low end response. I can hear the low bass sound, I just can't feel the hit. My Shiva is feeling neglected these days, but I don't dare fire it up with my 5 and 3 year old kids sleeping right above the living room.

SbWillie

07-26-08, 04:34 PM

You must have good theaters in your area....it's still better than most AMC,etc theaters but it pales in comparison to the Warren (the only 100% THX theater in the U.S.)

Hunter844

07-26-08, 07:42 PM

http://www.filmstalker.co.uk/archives/2008/07/tr2n_tron_2_trailer_online.html

May have already been mentioned....the above link takes you to a bootleg trailer of TR2N (aka Tron 2). It's sort of a crappy bootleg but you'll get the point...I'm betting this movie is going to be a favorite in the Sub forum whenever it comes out.

laugsbach

07-26-08, 08:14 PM

Hi Doc,

Here are your updated timestamps for BB:

"Batman Begins" SE DTSHD-DVDBlu-ray LE TrueHD
1. Burning Down The House, Chap 11 (0:40:10)
2. Tumbler Test Drive, Chap 17 (0:57:06 – 0:57:47) 30-5Hz WaterFall (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfall_too/BatmanBegins_thetumbler_LFE.jpg)
3. The Dock, Chap 18 (1:00:50 – 1:03:27) WaterFall (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfall_too/BatmanBegins_thedock_LFE.jpg)
4. The Scarecrow, Lighten Up, Chap 24 (1:18:05 – 1:18:41) WaterFall (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfall_too/BatmanBegins_scarecrow_LFE.jpg)
5. Tumbler Envy, Chap 28 (1:32:43 – 1:32:52)
6. Trust Me, Chap 28 (1:34:22 – 1:34:33)
7. Burning Down The House Part 2, Chap 32 (1:50:21 – 1:50:41)
8. The Word is "Panic", Chap 33 (1:53:13 – 1:53:30) WaterFall (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfall_too/BatmanBegins_panic_LFE.jpg)
9. Monorail Crash, Chap 36 (2:03:52 – 2:04:16) WaterFall (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfall_too/BatmanBegins_monorailcrash_LFE.jpg)
10. More WaterFalls For Batman Begins (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12524773#post12524773)

DrPainMD

07-26-08, 08:24 PM

laugsbach

07-26-08, 08:49 PM

OMG, thanks for your dedication!

You must use the white background, hard to see the black lettering. No problem tho...

will add it to the list

Thanks Doc,

I seem to have problems when I write this in MS Word and then cut and paste here. Any suggestions?

What do you mean by "the white background"?

Larry

****EDIT*** I'm a little slow on the uptake...you're using the Black Background and I'm using the default....now I see the problem!

DrPainMD

07-26-08, 09:09 PM

Thanks Doc,

I seem to have problems when I write this in MS Word and then cut and paste here. Any suggestions?

What do you mean by "the white background"?

Larry

****EDIT*** I'm a little slow on the uptake...you're using the Black Background and I'm using the default....now I see the problem!

cool , thats what I meant.... :cool:

awesome job, thanks again

DevilDog151

07-27-08, 12:15 AM

it's still better than most AMC,etc theaters but it pales in comparison to the Warren (the only 100% THX theater in the U.S.)
Yeah, I just went to See Dark Knight today at my local AMC that hasn't been upgraded since the early ninties with a friend from work. It's pretty sad when after the movie he tells me he can't wait to see it on Blu-ray at my house and that Batman begins sounded better at my house. It took me a while to get used to the blurry resolution of the screen and especially the poor audio quality.They really need to step it up. Especailly if someones paying 8.50 a ticket. Anyways, has anyone got word on when DK is being released on BR? There sure was a lot of explosions and heavy action scenes. I have a feeling it's going to be reference for sure.

DrPainMD

07-28-08, 12:14 PM

July 28, 2008

Added some audio codecs that were missing throughout the thread (mainly Blu-ray titles). Not that anyone would notice... ;):rolleyes::p

laugsbach

07-28-08, 01:51 PM

Hi Doc,

I had an off day today and decided to help out with some timestamps:

"The Haunting" DTS-ESDD-EX
1. Introduction, Chap 1 (0:00:00 – 0:01:07)
2. Coming Mother!, Chap 10 (0:38:08) WaterFall (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfall%20SPL/TheHaunting_comingmother.jpg)
3. The Cold, Chap 10 (0:39:18- 0:39:37) 22Hz WaterFall (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfalls/TheHaunting_cold.jpg) WaterFall (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfall%20SPL/TheHaunting_cold.jpg)
4. Knock Knock, Chap 10 (0:38:53 – 0:38:57)
5. Lock The Door, Chap 10 (0:40:22 – 0:40:25)
6. The Wind, Chap 17 (1:14:23 – 1:15:07)
7. Rumbling, Chap 17 (1:15:48 – 1:16:12)
8. It’s Not Real, Chap 19 (1:25:30 – 1:26:48)
9. To The Door, Chap 22 (1:40:07 – 1:40:10)

Note: Additional Timestamps added and my rental copy was in DD 5.1 only.:(

Larry

laugsbach

07-28-08, 01:58 PM

Hi Doc,

Here is Movie #2:

"The Astronaut Farmer"
1. Sudden Launch, Chap 18 (1:04:05 – 1:05:01)
2. Blastoff, Chap 23 (1:24:04 – 1:24:34)
3. Reentry and Landing, Chap 26 (1:35:05 – 1:35:59)

Larry

DrPainMD

07-28-08, 02:08 PM

thanks laugsbach, will add them to the list. :cool:

mdk2007

07-28-08, 09:51 PM

I just watched Hitman on Blu-ray and i wanted to cast my vote for 4.5 stars!

There are some scenes and explosions that hit like nothing i have had on my system. i would kill to see waterfalls on a lot of these scenes, but yeah if you havent checked this out...really take the time to rent it...esp on Blu!

K back to your regular bass discussion!

laugsbach

07-28-08, 11:53 PM

^^^^

Dial up the Hitman Trailer on the BR version. There is one very intense LFE moment during the trailer that is better than in the movie!

Larry

Kevin12586

07-30-08, 08:40 AM

Here you go Dr.:

Shoot Em Up Blu-ray DTS-MA 7.1
Chap 1 00:01:02
Chap 1 00:02:03
Chap 3 00:11:23
Chap 4 00:12:56
Chap 4 00:13:36
Chap 5 00:15:10
Chap 5 00:22:28
Chap 6 00:25:34
Chap 6 00:25:57
Chap 7 00:28:41
Chap 8 00:32:42
Chap 9 00:37:14
Chap 9 00:41:18
Chap 10 00:45:51
Chap 11 00:55:15
Chap 12 00:58:59
Chap 13 01:07:27
Chap 14 01:13:23
Chap 14 01:15:25
Chap 14 01:16:32
Chap 15 01:18:56

Enjoy :D

SbWillie

08-01-08, 08:50 PM

Yeah, I just went to See Dark Knight today at my local AMC that hasn't been upgraded since the early ninties with a friend from work. It's pretty sad when after the movie he tells me he can't wait to see it on Blu-ray at my house and that Batman begins sounded better at my house. It took me a while to get used to the blurry resolution of the screen and especially the poor audio quality.They really need to step it up. Especailly if someones paying 8.50 a ticket. Anyways, has anyone got word on when DK is being released on BR? There sure was a lot of explosions and heavy action scenes. I have a feeling it's going to be reference for sure.YEp course an IMAX theater is slated to open next door to the mall the AMC dump is located in in 2010 so they will be closing soon...taking their lame ceiling `surround' speakers with them.

back to bass! Sorry!

bori

08-01-08, 08:57 PM

^^^^

Dial up the Hitman Trailer on the BR version. There is one very intense LFE moment during the trailer that is better than in the movie!

Larry

Are talking about the part right after they apply the barcode to his head? It a distorted sounding bass.

laugsbach

08-01-08, 10:16 PM

Are talking about the part right after they apply the barcode to his head? It a distorted sounding bass.

I have sent this back to BB and only viewed it due to a post about it here in this thread. I just remember it being room filling and it didn't sound distorted to me.

Larry

DrPainMD

08-01-08, 10:35 PM

Here you go Dr.:

Shoot Em Up Blu-ray DTS-MA 7.1
Chap 1 00:01:02
Chap 1 00:02:03
etc...

Enjoy :D

added , thanks

Hector.B

08-11-08, 11:22 AM

Any waterfalls on Step Up 2: The Streets blu-ray? There is some really deep bass in the last two scenes of the movie! Really gave my HSU VTF2.3 a workout!

DrPainMD

08-11-08, 08:48 PM

Due to the AVS Forum Data Loss (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/announcement.php?f=113&a=123) could the members who posted any times and movies, repost them please.

thanks

Flageborg

08-12-08, 04:36 AM

http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/Minority_Report.JPG

Flageborg

08-12-08, 04:37 AM

http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/Batman_Begins.JPG

Kevin12586

08-12-08, 08:36 AM

Hellboy Blu-Ray PCM 5.1

Chap 2 00:07:31
Chap 2 00:08:52
Chap 4 00:24:07
Chap 4 00:30:54
Chap 7 00:53:44
Chap 8 00:58:53
Chap 8 01:02:05
Chap 9 01:05:03
Chap 10 01:07:29
Chap 13 01:38:42
Chap 13 01:41:03
Chap 13 01:44:40
Chap 14 01:46:50
Chap 15 01:53:39 - Chap 16 02:01:00

The last timestamp is a battle scene and has too much bass to list.

Enjoy

Dr, I feel your Pain ;)

I also have to redo my list from August 2nd and it is going to be a pain in the a**. You have Shoot Em Up timestamps still which was the last thing I watched before HellBoy. Good thing because I don't keep the timestamps after I post them here.

Hector.B

08-12-08, 10:16 AM

I appreciate everyone posting their waterfalls! They are beautiful to look at! I know someone had posted some Minority Report Timestamps right before the crash...here they are...if the original poster would like me to remove...just let me know.

Originally posted by: laugsbach
Doc,

Updated & added some timestamps:

*"Minority Report" DTS-ES DD-EX*
1. The Arrest of Howard Marks, Chap 2 (0:10:02 - 0:10:15)
2. The Arrest of Howard Marks, Chap 2 (0:10:54)
3. Case 1109, Chap 7 (0:39:51)
4. Case 1109, Chap 7 (0:41:10 - 0:41:22)
5. Everybody Runs, Chap 8 (0:44:05)
6. Everybody Runs, Chap 8 (0:50:04) *_WaterFall_* (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=116874&d=1218089355) *_WaterFall_* (http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/Minority_Report.JPG)
7. Everybody Runs, Chap 8 (0:51:04 - 0:51:11)
8. Auto Assembly Line, Chap 9 (0:52:21)
9. Auto Assembly Line, Chap 9 (0:52:32 - 0:52:35)
10. Auto Assembly Line, Chap 9 (0:54:01- 0:54:17)
11. The Spyders, Chap 14 (1:16:52- 1:17:03)
12. Agatha is the Key, Chap 15 (1:26:49- 1:26:53)
13. Downloading Agatha, Chap 16 (1:33:28)
14. Leo Crow, Chap 18 (1:48:32)
15. An Echo, Chap 19 (1:53:26)
16. Forgive Me John, Chap 23 (2:14:49)

FWIW, I would upgrade this title to 3.5 Stars.:)

Larry

DrPainMD

08-12-08, 11:20 AM

thanks to all for re-posting, I hate backing up, even though it only takes 10mins. ;)

laugsbach

08-12-08, 12:32 PM

I appreciate everyone posting their waterfalls! They are beautiful to look at! I know someone had posted some Minority Reports Timestamps right before the crash...here they are...if the original poster would like me to remove...just let me know.

Originally posted by: laugsbach
Doc,

Updated & added some timestamps:

*"Minority Report" DTS-ES DD-EX*
1. The Arrest of Howard Marks, Chap 2 (0:10:02 - 0:10:15)
2. The Arrest of Howard Marks, Chap 2 (0:10:54)
3. Case 1109, Chap 7 (0:39:51)
4. Case 1109, Chap 7 (0:41:10 - 0:41:22)
5. Everybody Runs, Chap 8 (0:44:05)
6. Everybody Runs, Chap 8 (0:50:04) *_WaterFall_* (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=116874&d=1218089355) *_WaterFall_* (http://www.flageborg.no/SVSpatruljen/Waterfall/Minority_Report.JPG)
7. Everybody Runs, Chap 8 (0:51:04 - 0:51:11)
8. Auto Assembly Line, Chap 9 (0:52:21)
9. Auto Assembly Line, Chap 9 (0:52:32 - 0:52:35)
10. Auto Assembly Line, Chap 9 (0:54:01- 0:54:17)
11. The Spyders, Chap 14 (1:16:52- 1:17:03)
12. Agatha is the Key, Chap 15 (1:26:49- 1:26:53)
13. Downloading Agatha, Chap 16 (1:33:28)
14. Leo Crow, Chap 18 (1:48:32)
15. An Echo, Chap 19 (1:53:26)
16. Forgive Me John, Chap 23 (2:14:49)

FWIW, I would upgrade this title to 3.5 Stars.:)

Larry

Thank you so much Hector.B! I didn't save this information on my computer.:o

Larry

lfe man

08-12-08, 04:42 PM

Hitman dd5,1

c4 in throat chap3
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/hitmanchap3.jpg
door explosion chap6
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/hitmanchap6.jpg
elevator shootout chap6
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/hitmanchap61.jpg
shootout in party chap16
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/hitmanchap16.jpg
mil-mi24 fires chap21
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/hitmanchap21.jpg

DrPainMD

08-13-08, 03:32 PM

Ok, I've added all recent posts and made a back up. I'm planning on backing the thread up once a week from now on.

Kevin12586

08-16-08, 10:17 PM

Justice League: The New Frontier Blu-ray Dolby TrueHD 5.1

Chap 5 00:14:58
Chap 11 00:40:38
Chap 12 00:43:05
Chap 13 00:47:51
Chap 15 00:53:15
Chap 18 01:05:04
Chap 19 01:07:06
Chap 19 01:08:23

Smarty-pants

08-17-08, 02:14 AM

^^^^

Dial up the Hitman Trailer on the BR version. There is one very intense LFE moment during the trailer that is better than in the movie!

Larry

So, THIS is what you've been up to huh buddy? :D
This is the stuff I LOVE! Just so little time to get into it like I really want (NEED) to.

My setup has basically been in somewhat "temporary" setup for quite a while now. It's still pretty decent though, just not anywhere near how I want it. So things like calibrating the system for ULTIMATE BASS have been on the back burner. Now I've wandered in here and I think I'll be subscribing now. :)

We (the wife and I) have been aspiring to buy a new house for quite a while, and are finally going to do it. Can't wait forever ya know?:) So I'll be lurking for now, and hopefully soon I'll have a new theater room to do with as I wish.
Getting excited just thinking about it, but getting depressed about how much work it's going to be starting setup (astetics, calibration, construction) from scratch.

In the mean time my friend, I have a ton of dvds (including that DTS-ES Haunting soundtack ;)) that I may be willing to donate to the cause. If you want some stuff to test, I could send you the discs you need if I have them. Just send them back when you're done. If you're interested, just shoot me a PM dude.

Later...

Kevin12586

08-17-08, 04:38 PM

DrPain, I have a suggestion, tell me what you think. Presently there are a few of you that can do waterfalls of specific movie scenes and a lot of times some of us make a request to have a scene waterfalled to see how it looks. Those requests get lost here in the thread as time goes by.

How about you make a list of these requests in the first post? This way, those of you that can do a waterfall, if you have the requested movie or get it later you will know what scenes are asked for. As they are done, obviously, you would remove them from the request list.

What do you think?

DrPainMD

08-18-08, 07:40 AM

Hector.B

08-18-08, 07:45 AM

Step Up 2: The Streets blu-ray! ;)

DrPainMD

08-18-08, 07:45 AM

Added:

Justice League: The New Frontier (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0902272/) Blu-ray TrueHD

"Justice League: The New Frontier" Blu-ray TrueHD
1. Chap 5 (0:14:58)
2. Chap 11 (0:40:38)
3. Chap 12 (0:43:05)
4. Chap 13 (0:47:51)
5. Chap 15 (0:53:15)
6. Chap 18 (1:05:04)
7. Chap 19 (1:07:06)
8. Chap 19 (1:08:23)

Kevin12586

08-18-08, 08:38 AM

Sounds like a good idea. What requests have been made so far?

When I get a chance I will help you look through and see what I can find.

jwagner95

08-18-08, 08:41 AM

Quick request if no one minds. Can someone post a waterfall of Disney's Cars in the first chapter where Lightning McQueen is pumping himself up for the race and the camera briefly shows cars passing on the tracks. The part I'm talking about is when the cars actually pass by the camera. It doesn't "sound" that low, but I could "feel" the infrasonics as the cars pass by.

Kevin12586

08-18-08, 01:14 PM

If you could give the timestamp it would make it easier for whoever is doing it.

jwagner95

08-18-08, 04:33 PM

If you could give the timestamp it would make it easier for whoever is doing it.

Yeah, sorry. I'm at work and I was talking about it to a coworker. I'll try to get a timestamp when I get home.

jwagner95

08-18-08, 08:25 PM

If you could give the timestamp it would make it easier for whoever is doing it.

Well, I tried and failed at SpecLab. The scene is the opening scene of Disney's Cars at 00:00:45 and 00:01:01 (hh:mm:ss). It's not the most bass-heavy scene of the movie, but I definitely felt some vibrations I wasn't expecting.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Flageborg

08-20-08, 04:06 AM

laugsbach

08-20-08, 02:05 PM

So, THIS is what you've been up to huh buddy? :D
This is the stuff I LOVE! Just so little time to get into it like I really want (NEED) to.

My setup has basically been in somewhat "temporary" setup for quite a while now. It's still pretty decent though, just not anywhere near how I want it. So things like calibrating the system for ULTIMATE BASS have been on the back burner. Now I've wandered in here and I think I'll be subscribing now. :)

We (the wife and I) have been aspiring to buy a new house for quite a while, and are finally going to do it. Can't wait forever ya know?:) So I'll be lurking for now, and hopefully soon I'll have a new theater room to do with as I wish.
Getting excited just thinking about it, but getting depressed about how much work it's going to be starting setup (astetics, calibration, construction) from scratch.

In the mean time my friend, I have a ton of dvds (including that DTS-ES Haunting soundtack ;)) that I may be willing to donate to the cause. If you want some stuff to test, I could send you the discs you need if I have them. Just send them back when you're done. If you're interested, just shoot me a PM dude.

Later...

Hello Smarty,

Ya, I have been livin' in the subwoofer forum as I just added subwoofer #3 & #4. This is a great thread to help me find good bass movies to demo. My Wife & I love to experience movies with bass!:D

Larry

jwagner95

08-20-08, 05:38 PM

Have a look at this one.....

Thanks for the plot. I guess with all the higher frequency energy, it didn't sound as low as it was. I'm guessing it was that 18 Hz bit I felt right before the screen blacks out.

Flageborg

08-21-08, 04:17 AM

Thanks for the plot. I guess with all the higher frequency energy, it didn't sound as low as it was. I'm guessing it was that 18 Hz bit I felt right before the screen blacks out.

What we actually feel - and what frequency that? is - depends on our system. As you can see - it has energy far below 18Hz. I downloaded a test-DVD from Rotary Subwoofer and it confirms that I have a lot of energy down to 4.09Hz - which is the lowest Hz on their test-DVD.

We have different low definitions - and low ends ;)

bgillyjcu

08-21-08, 03:03 PM

Just got Master and Commander Blu Ray.

Anyone else finding that in order to get the same subwoofer output vs the DTS DVD that they need to bump up the volume about 4-5db MORE.

The DTS DVD I would watch at -12db Master volume.

The BLU RAY DTS-HD I have to crank to -8db to get the same bass output.

Are all blu rays recorded about 4db LOWER than standard DVDs??

laugsbach

08-21-08, 04:30 PM

bgillyjcu,

I own the DVD and rented the BR and from my memory, I seem to recall that I played the DTS-MA at a louder volume than the DVD DTS version. There really wasn't a hugh difference between the DTS vs DTS-MA track. More details in the surrounds I suppose. I, too, play all my action movies around -12dB.

Larry

DrPainMD

08-22-08, 09:53 PM

Have a look at this one.....

http://flageborg.no/waterfall/Cars_Pixar.JPG

Can you do these please? Also please inlcude the chapter and time, reading from your pics is hard.

"Cars" THX Blu-ray 24 Bit LPCM
1. Intro, Chap 1
2. Last Lap, Chap 1
3. Fireworks Commercial, Chap 3
4. Cars Pass Rig, Chap 5
5. McQueen Eludes Oncoming Traffic, Chap 5
6. McQueen Arrives' in Town, Chap 6
7. There's Frank!, Chap 11

DrPainMD

08-22-08, 09:58 PM

UPDATE

I've added all the missing HD-DVD Audio Codecs, even though it's dead.

If any title (HD-DVD or Blu-ray) is missing a Audio Codec it means it's just plain old 5.1 DD or I missed adding it.

DrPainMD

08-23-08, 09:23 PM

Just having fun....

Bom Chicka Wah Wah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZmRdKMkFLU&feature=related

Smarty-pants

08-23-08, 09:34 PM

Just having fun....

Bom Chicka Wah Wah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZmRdKMkFLU&feature=related

I just ordered 17 cases... :D

Kevin12586

08-24-08, 07:00 PM

Just having fun....

Bom Chicka Wah Wah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZmRdKMkFLU&feature=related

:eek::D

landshark1

08-24-08, 07:18 PM

have anyone check out the Meet the Spartan?? the movie is very stupid and doesn't really worth my bulb life. however, there's some good bass through out the movie tho! e.g. when the spartan soldiers drop their swords/sheilds on the ground, etc..

lfe man

08-24-08, 07:26 PM

Assault on precinct 13 dts

chap11 (0:55:06)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/assaultofprecint13chap1105506.jpg
chap14 (1:13:16)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/assaultofprecint13chap1411316.jpg
chap18 (1:28:05)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/assaultofprecint13chap1812805.jpg

Severance dd5.1

chap2 magic mushrooms
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/severancechap2magicmushrooms.jpg
chap5 great managements skills
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/severancechap5creatmanagementskills.jpg
chap11 the cellar
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/severancechap11thecellar.jpg
chap13 the real lodge
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/severancechap13thereallodge.jpg
chap15 the showdown
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/severancechap15theshowdown.jpg

Return of the living dead mono lol:D
chap15 (1:28:28)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/rotldchapter1512528.jpg

High tension dd5.1 french
chap1 (0:01:24)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/hightensionchap100124.jpg

Damn, i hate those axe commercials.:eek::mad:

DrPainMD

08-24-08, 07:44 PM

Damn, i hate those axe commercials.:eek::mad:

So do I, but thats my fav

lfe man

08-24-08, 10:19 PM

So do I, but thats my fav

Thank god, maybe we bassheads still has some hope.:rolleyes::p:D

DrPainMD

08-26-08, 09:14 AM

New BASS Movie of the Week/Month:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8971063#post8971063

laugsbach

08-26-08, 10:08 PM

Smarty-pants

08-26-08, 10:54 PM

Good call, Doc! :D

I just rec'd the DVD & HD-DVD version from a very kind, fellow AVS'er and my local Blockbuster store finally had the Blu-ray version in today. I added one more timestamp:

"U-571" CE DTS HD-DVD DD+ Blu-ray DTS-HD:MA
1. Alarm!, Chap 8 (0:40:15)
2. Torpedo Hit, Chap 9 (0:47:48)
3. They All Missed, Chap 9 (0:55:55) WaterFall (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfalls/U571_ch15_depthcharged2.jpg)
4. Plane Flyover, Chap 12 (1:06:28)
5. Depth Charge, Chap 15 (1:17:34) 5-40Hz WaterFall (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfalls/U571_ch15_depthcharged1.jpg)
6. Depth Charge Part Two, Chap 15 (1:19:35 - 1:20:31)

To my eyes and ears, the Blu-ray version wins hands down!

Larry

Larry, different soundtrack on the BR compared to the HD DVD? If so, I'll have to get that one on Blu then... and sell my other versions :rolleyes::D;).(<-nothing ever changes :D)
U-571 is one of my favorites. Gotta have the best version eh?! :)

EDIT:Oh, oops, I see now that you have MA listed as the soundtrack. That's goin on the wish list now. :)

laugsbach

08-26-08, 11:16 PM

Hi Smarty,

Yep, the DTS-MA rules this title. This is the first time I have liked the way the BR version looked vs. the HD-DVD on several titles that I own or have rented. It really was fun having all three versions and playing the above scenes over and over. Of course, my Wife was about to go off like one of the depth charges.:D:D

Larry

Smarty-pants

08-26-08, 11:36 PM

:D My wife HATES it when I turn it up anywhere close to reference level. She always says, "What do you think this is a real theater or something?... turn it down." Nah baby, this is BETTER than a real theater :D.

DrPainMD

08-26-08, 11:41 PM

DrPainMD

08-26-08, 11:47 PM

eh?! :)

oh your Canadian now eh? :p;)

EDIT:Oh, oops, I see now that you have MA listed as the soundtrack. That's goin on the wish list now. :)

All of the codecs are listed on the main page of my list.

Smarty-pants

08-27-08, 12:03 AM

You know what they say... when in Rome, do as the canooks would do eh? :D:p

That codec just kind of threw me for a loop, because I thought that the U571 tracks were the same on BR and HD. I must have been thinking of a different title.

Thanks for the info :).

DrPainMD

08-27-08, 12:08 AM

Smarty-pants

08-27-08, 12:09 AM

Here is my never fail source. When ever in doubt about what may or may not be on the dvd, you can go to dvdempire. They scan the ACTUAL dvd itself (the back). The only drawback is that if it's an upcoming release, they may not have the scan till a couple days before release because they don't have it on hand yet. It's about as accurate as you can get other than the occasional misprint of the case itself.
http://www.dvdempire.com/Exec/v4_item.asp?userid=99366268496749&item_id=1410947&tab=5&back=1&anchor=1#topoftabs

DrPainMD

08-27-08, 12:36 AM

Smarty-pants

08-27-08, 01:10 AM

Cool, thanks for the link, are they like Amazon or any other DVD selling/reviewing site?

Well, I guess so. Not exactly sure what you're asking.
They are a dvd retailer. Never been much for reviews though. Back in the day, they used to be a decent source for affordable dvds. Combined with their coupons, you could put together a decent order of 3-4 discs that would end up being the best price on the net.
I mostly stopped buying discs for about 2 years. (I had SO MANY that I hadn't even watched :rolleyes:). Now it seems their prices have risen and I haven't bought anything there lately. Again, back in the day, their customer service was top notch too. Not sure about now.
I LIKE TO USE THEIR COVER SCANS THOUGH! :D
(sorry DvdEmpire, $20-$30 for HD DVDs is a bit too much :rolleyes:)

DrPainMD

08-27-08, 01:21 AM

Well, I guess so. Not exactly sure what you're asking.
They are a dvd retailer. Never been much for reviews though. Back in the day, they used to be a decent source for affordable dvds. Combined with their coupons, you could put together a decent order of 3-4 discs that would end up being the best price on the net.
I mostly stopped buying discs for about 2 years. (I had SO MANY that I hadn't even watched :rolleyes:). Now it seems their prices have risen and I haven't bought anything there lately. Again, back in the day, their customer service was top notch too. Not sure about now.
I LIKE TO USE THEIR COVER SCANS THOUGH! :D
(sorry DvdEmpire, $20-$30 for HD DVDs is a bit too much :rolleyes:)

I think I might use the cover scans, thnx again

edit:

Then again, I don't think I'll use the back covers, it might be infringing on some ones ;) niche.

Kevin12586

08-29-08, 12:33 AM

New BASS Movie of the Week/Month:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8971063#post8971063

Always a good choice :D

DrPainMD

08-29-08, 05:48 AM

Always a good choice :D

bet yah can't guess whats up next week...? :cool:;)

DevilDog151

08-29-08, 11:02 AM

BASS Movie of the Week/Month = Transformers: special edition blu-ray

DrPainMD

08-29-08, 11:21 AM

BASS Movie of the Week/Month = Transformers: special edition blu-ray

Im not going to say, but your very close...:cool:

Kevin12586

08-30-08, 01:02 AM

BASS Movie of the Week/Month = Transformers: special edition blu-ray

Good guess, I agree ;)

I have it in my Netflix queue, can't wait to see it in lossless audio :D

A few weeks later is Ironman, that one I am buying :cool:

DrPainMD

08-30-08, 10:36 PM

Good guess, I agree ;)

Nope.... ;)

mdk2007

08-31-08, 03:34 PM

i just wanted to give someone a heads up on a ridiculously good soundtrack...

If anyone gets a chance...check out the Dark Knight's soundtrack...its better than most movies!! There is tons of sub 20hz bass and well yeah...its awesome!

So i know this is mostly about movies (of which i love!) checking out the soundtrack is well worth your time :)!

MKtheater

08-31-08, 03:44 PM

Already own the soundtrack. It is very good.

Kevin12586

08-31-08, 03:54 PM

Nope.... ;)

Is it a movie that is out already or comes out this week?

DevilDog151

08-31-08, 08:38 PM

Good choice with U-571's placing. I watched it on Sat and man that movie has some extreme bass. Those depth charges had me running to the phone to call my friend to come over and check it out. It's also not just the great bass but, the whole movie has an awesome mix and even the PQ is steller. I've found my new demo disc to show off Blu-ray.

DrPainMD

08-31-08, 10:29 PM

Is it a movie that is out already or comes out this week?

both?... :confused: ;)

Kevin12586

09-01-08, 03:04 PM

both?... :confused: ;)

I have no clue if it isn't Transformers. I will just wiat until you post it ;)

laugsbach

09-01-08, 03:17 PM

Hi Doc,

This is a great bass movie and deserves to have some timestamps:

"Mr. Brooks" Blu-ray DTS-HD:MA
1. Ecstasy, Chap 6 (0:10:49 - 0:10:52)
2. Ecstasy, Chap 6 (0:10:58 - 0:11:10)
3. Unobstructed View, Chap 15 (0:39:22 - 0:39:25)
4. Sadistic Killing, Chap 24 (1:22:44 - 1:22:52)
5. The Hangman, Chap 29 (1:42:55 - 1:43:22)
6. The Hangman, Chap 29 (1:43:56 - 1:44:01)
7. Cemetery Plot, Chap 30 (1:47:07)

Larry

DrPainMD

09-01-08, 10:33 PM

DrPainMD

09-01-08, 11:30 PM

NEW BASS Movie of the Week/Month

Transformers "2 Disc" :p Special Edition on Blu-ray

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=8971063&postcount=4

Smarty-pants

09-02-08, 12:19 AM

NEW BASS Movie of the Week/Month

Transformers "2 Disc" :p Special Edition on Blu-ray

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=8971063&postcount=4

Ok, how does this thing stack up against the HD DVD? I suppose another one I'll have to double dip on :rolleyes:. At least I never bought the sd version :).
So many people hate this movie and I don't know why. Of course it'll never be on the AFI top 100 or anything, but I think it's a great popcorn/bluckbuster type flick, and I'm usually a sucker for those. I suppose I'm a little biased since I used to love the Transformers cartoons when I was a kid :D.
Looking forward to hearing some comparisons between the HD and BR versions.

QUESTION: On the HD version, in the opening scene where the transfromer comes in as a helicopter... after he turns into a robot, he then punches the ground to release a huge... (or what seems like it should be), a huge shockwave. To me it seems as if there should be some unbeliveable underground/rolling thunder/earthquake type bass. Is that really the case, and my system needs calibrated better, or is there a lack of base in the soundtrack at that moment.

DrPainMD

09-02-08, 06:30 AM

Ok, how does this thing stack up against the HD DVD? I suppose another one I'll have to double dip on :rolleyes:. At least I never bought the sd version :).
So many people hate this movie and I don't know why. Of course it'll never be on the AFI top 100 or anything, but I think it's a great popcorn/bluckbuster type flick, and I'm usually a sucker for those. I suppose I'm a little biased since I used to love the Transformers cartoons when I was a kid :D.
Looking forward to hearing some comparisons between the HD and BR versions.

QUESTION: On the HD version, in the opening scene where the transfromer comes in as a helicopter... after he turns into a robot, he then punches the ground to release a huge... (or what seems like it should be), a huge shockwave. To me it seems as if there should be some unbeliveable underground/rolling thunder/earthquake type bass. Is that really the case, and my system needs calibrated better, or is there a lack of base in the soundtrack at that moment.

Theres some talk about it...

Transformers BD Thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1032686)
Transformers Blu-ray vs HD DVD Comparison Thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1061018)
Unofficial Blu-ray Audio and Video Specifications For Transformers (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14475060&postcount=676)
DVD Transformers Bass (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=872006&highlight=transformers)
Transformers LFE lacking...what is your disc number? Thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=925725)
Transformers DVD - HD-DVD Comparison PIX Thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=929161)

bgillyjcu

09-02-08, 10:20 PM

The problem with that shockwave is that we THINK there should be strong LFE there, but the makers just didn't do that.

It sucks...but what can we do! :)

After watching and comparing the BluRay to the SD-DVD I'd say the Blu Ray has tighter more defined bass....especially apparent with the guns of the transformers.

BUT I wouldn't say the BluRay adds anything deeper or more powerful to any scenes. It just simply improves the quality of the LFE vs the DVD, not the amount of LFE.

Kevin12586

09-02-08, 10:39 PM

Bee Movie Blu-ray Dolby TrueHD 5.1

Chap 4 00:17:10
Chap 5 00:21:07
Chap 7 00:39:09
Chap 10 00:53:13

I may have missed a scene or two but there is NO WAY I am watching this turd again. Dreamworks owes me 1.5 hours of my life back

DrPainMD

09-02-08, 11:35 PM

The problem with that shockwave is that we THINK there should be strong LFE there, but the makers just didn't do that.

It sucks...but what can we do! :)

right on

DrPainMD

09-02-08, 11:36 PM

Smarty-pants

09-03-08, 03:03 AM

Thanks for the responses to my inquiries about Transformers guys... and thakks for all those links DrPainMD :).

Flageborg

09-03-08, 03:18 AM

in the opening scene where the transfromer comes in as a helicopter... after he turns into a robot, he then punches the ground to release a huge... (or what seems like it should be), a huge shockwave. To me it seems as if there should be some unbeliveable underground/rolling thunder/earthquake type bass.

1. Is that really the case,

2. and my system needs calibrated better, or

3. is there a lack of base in the soundtrack at that moment.

1. No

2. Why dont you post a frequency response chart for your subsystem?

3. Yes

This is what really happens.................

http://flageborg.no/waterfall/Transformers_Beginning.JPG

Smarty-pants

09-03-08, 03:33 AM

Why dont you post a frequency response chart for your subsystem?

I don't really know how to do that. I'm pretty much what they call "compootar illitterott":D.
Seriously though, the system has been tweeked here and there, but has basically been in temporary setup for a while now. I've put hours and hours of work into cabling, positioning, calibrating some things... but really optimizing the sound other than running the Audyssey on my receiver is all that has been done for the sound/bass since I got my new receiver about 6 months ago. There's no time for any of that right now.
We are shopping for a new house, and hopfully the system will be able to set in it's new home soon. Then, as they say, "IT'S ON!".:)

Kevin12586

09-03-08, 08:27 AM

damn , its that beed eh?

Unfortunately :(

SbWillie

09-05-08, 11:22 PM

Personally I actually liked Bee Movie....thx guys for contributing...I'm broke and have to go elsewhere just to use a comp so I still can't post charts. :(

JimmyDaves

09-06-08, 03:03 AM

I know this sounds odd, but what movies can give the center channel speaker a workout? I just purchased a pair of very nice speakers along with the matching center speaker. I think the Left/Right pair of speakers sounds ok, but it's rare that I find a movie that gives the center speaker a workout. There's so much that can some out of the center speaker, such as dynamics, bass with the right movies. Any suggestions for center channel speaker dynamics, bass, etc?

otk

09-06-08, 12:32 PM

shponglefan

09-07-08, 01:17 AM

Just watched Beowulf and there are some really choice bassy scenes in that movie. Movie itself is okay, although kinda creepy (uncanny valley effect ruined a perfectly good naked Angelina Jolie scene).

Good bass scenes include:

Grendel's first appearance (Ch 2): 0:08:14
Beowulf's first appearance (Ch 3): 0:15:34
Dragon attack (Ch 11): 1:22:05

And then the whole fight with Beowulf and the dragon at the end of the movie.

With my SVS PB13 Ultra at 1/3 gain, the entire basement was shaking and my clothes were rippling. It was epic. :D

a3plew

09-07-08, 01:30 AM

eightninesuited

09-07-08, 02:43 PM

shponglefan

09-07-08, 03:52 PM

Funny thing, I was watching Saving Private Ryan yesterday and it didn't seem as impressive in the way of bass at all. The whole Omaha Beach sequence left me puzzled as to why it sounded so laid back. The separation of the effects are really not that great compared to recent stuff (or maybe I'm just spoiled by lossless audio on Blu-ray) and the bass is REALLY lacking during explosions.

It just goes to show how audio effects have improved in 10 years.

I noticed that too. I wonder if it has to do with the DVD version, since I remember getting rocked by bass in the theaters when I first saw it.

FWIW, there is some decent bass in the end of the film (when the tanks are approaching). I had to crank my woofer a bit and it was enough to send lots of vibrations through my couch.

DrPainMD

09-09-08, 02:38 PM

Well almost anything pails in comparison to Pulse or WOTW. Saving Private Ryan was in 98' ? DVD was a baby then. Plus it could have been how it was mixed for the BASS (or lack of), yes I know it won Academy Awards for Best Effects, Sound Effects Editing and Best Sound. People are more bass hungry now.

otk

09-09-08, 03:10 PM

People are more bass hungry now.

http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/images/smilies/Props/eat.gif

Scott Simonian

09-09-08, 03:10 PM

Funny thing, I was watching Saving Private Ryan yesterday and it didn't seem as impressive in the way of bass at all. The whole Omaha Beach sequence left me puzzled as to why it sounded so laid back. The separation of the effects are really not that great compared to recent stuff (or maybe I'm just spoiled by lossless audio on Blu-ray) and the bass is REALLY lacking during explosions.

It just goes to show how audio effects have improved in 10 years.

I am not sure if I ever uploaded some of the waterfalls I took of SPR back in the old "waterfall" thread. Pretty much what it is is that SPR doesn't have any real low bass. Pretty much nothing under 30hz throughout the whole movie. There are trails of bass below 30hz but the majority of it all is above 30hz. No cool sweeps or anything. Just relentless bass and midbass.

What I do in my setup (since I know there is NO chance of bottoming my sub with SPR) is that I may bump up the LFE by 5-6dB just for SPR. Sounds really good at that point. :)

So true about bass effects these days... Lots have changed.

DrPainMD

09-09-08, 03:21 PM

I am not sure if I ever uploaded some of the waterfalls I took of SPR back in the old "waterfall" thread. Pretty much what it is is that SPR doesn't have any real low bass. Pretty much nothing under 30hz throughout the whole movie. There are trails of bass below 30hz but the majority of it all is above 30hz. No cool sweeps or anything. Just relentless bass and midbass.

What I do in my setup (since I know there is NO chance of bottoming my sub with SPR) is that I may bump up the LFE by 5-6dB just for SPR. Sounds really good at that point. :)

So true about bass effects these days... Lots have changed.

I've got no waterfalls for SPR. Would love to have some.

I'm waiting on a movie to come along and be like Pulse, WOTW, FOTP, Finding Nemo, U-571, King Kong, Transformers, HotFuzz, DOA, 30 Days of Night, 300, Cloverfield, LOTR, M&C, FOOF and Yentl all rolled into one!!!!

Ricci

09-09-08, 03:27 PM

How do you determine which movies get 4 or 5 stars? Is it the overall amount of bass throughout the movie, or could a movie with 1 or 2 really spectacular bass sections get scored that high? Does the quality of the movie come into play?

I ask because I just watched Titan AE for the first time and I see it is a 4.5 star bass flick. Master and Commander is a 5 star bass flick. Now don't get me wrong I love the cannon blasts and overall bass in M&C, but it is a long movie with many parts that are subdued and lacking in any bass. Titan AE has basically ridiculous levels of low bass throughout the entire movie with few breaks (everything from laser blasts to closing doors and then there is the whole Ice field section). I'm just wondering what got that extra half star for M&C.

BTW I like the bass scenes in M&C a lot better SQ wise and have no problem with the 5 star rating for it. Just curious.

laugsbach

09-09-08, 04:11 PM

I'm waiting on a movie to come along and be like Pulse, WOTW, FOTP, Finding Nemo, U-571, King Kong, Transformers, HotFuzz, DOA, 30 Days of Night, 300, Cloverfield, LOTR, M&C, FOOF and Yentl all rolled into one!!!!

Yeah Doc, that would be the icing on the Bass Cake.:D:D

Larry

DrPainMD

09-09-08, 05:21 PM

Yeah Doc, that would be the icing on the Bass Cake.:D:D

Larry

Yentl is one of the most under rated bass movies out there. ;)

DrPainMD

09-09-08, 05:27 PM

Scott Simonian

09-09-08, 05:29 PM

I've got no waterfalls for SPR. Would love to have some.

I'm waiting on a movie to come along and be like Pulse, WOTW, FOTP, Finding Nemo, U-571, King Kong, Transformers, HotFuzz, DOA, 30 Days of Night, 300, Cloverfield, LOTR, M&C, FOOF and Yentl all rolled into one!!!!

The hard part about SPR is the sustained sequences of LFE that would be charted. I can tell you, I have watched pretty much the entire movie (sure did watch all the parts that would have bass) with SpecLab on and there isn't too much content down low and during something like the opening beach assault, a 60 - 120 second chart would show you about everything that is going on for those 15mins of action. Not that this is a bad thing. Just won't rock the foundation like some newer movies with deeper bass. Now, get yourself a seriously ridiculous midbass setup (or any subwoofer system capable of extreme SPL) then you will be in for a treat with good ol' Saving Private Ryan. Always a classic. :)

Cloverfield is definitely a new "classic" regarded bass and overall LFE usage. I like it a lot.

EDIT: Oh yeah... I will see if I ever uploaded those graphs of SPR on my photobucket. If not then I will get some fresh ones out there for you all to look at.

DrPainMD

09-09-08, 06:02 PM

EDIT: Oh yeah... I will see if I ever uploaded those graphs of SPR on my photobucket. If not then I will get some fresh ones out there for you all to look at.

thx :D

Scott Simonian

09-09-08, 06:27 PM

thx :D

No problem...

... and by "fresh new graphs" I mean "any requests?". ;)

MKtheater

09-09-08, 11:13 PM

I just watched Transformers for the first time on bluray and I must say the bass was better than the HD dvd version. Much better midbass punch. Also, the dialog was smoother a bit and the whole movie had better dynamics. I had to play this movie about 5 db's hot on the Hd dvd but not with Bluray.

DrPainMD

09-10-08, 07:33 AM

No problem...

... and by "fresh new graphs" I mean "any requests?". ;)

Titan AE
Mr. Brooks
Lord of the Rings Trilogy
Hot Fuzz
Bridge to Terabithia
Beowulf

etc...

bori

09-10-08, 11:09 PM

Has anyone seen forbidden kingdom on blu ray? I saw it today and the bass towards the end the movie was great. The movie was actually pretty good with those hot woman.:D

lalakersfan34

09-10-08, 11:30 PM

MKtheater

09-10-08, 11:48 PM

lalakersfan34

09-11-08, 12:22 AM

I liked the video overall better on the HD DVD. The bluray video was better at times but more grainy scenes overall than the hd dvd. The bass was similar but more punchy. I use a 140 inch screen so on the typical 50 inch it may look identical.

Interesting. As far as I know, they use the same exact video encode, so it's a bit odd that one would be grainier than the other.

DevilDog151

09-11-08, 02:15 AM

Funny thing, I was watching Saving Private Ryan yesterday and it didn't seem as impressive in the way of bass at all. The whole Omaha Beach sequence left me puzzled as to why it sounded so laid back. The separation of the effects are really not that great compared to recent stuff (or maybe I'm just spoiled by lossless audio on Blu-ray) and the bass is REALLY lacking during explosions.

It just goes to show how audio effects have improved in 10 years.

That is so true. One of my friends asked me if he could come over and watch his copy of Heat because he thought it would sound great on my system. Needless to say we were very disappointed. I've never heard gunfire so muffled and there was no directionality to the bullets. After we watched it because it is a good movie I popped in 3:10 to Yuma and he was blown away by the shootout in lossless pcm. Yes, we have come a long way in sound engineering and recording.

sound dropouts

09-11-08, 09:22 AM

Interesting. As far as I know, they use the same exact video encode, so it's a bit odd that one would be grainier than the other.

They have two different encodes, there is much argument over which is better...the hd dvd seems to not be as blocky, but has parts that are a little smoother (ie, smudged so compression is not as obvious).

MKtheater

09-11-08, 09:46 AM

Lets put it this way, I am keeping the bluray and giving the hd dvd to my friend because the video is very close(identical most of the time) but I like the audio on bluray better.

lalakersfan34

09-11-08, 10:27 AM

They have two different encodes, there is much argument over which is better...the hd dvd seems to not be as blocky, but has parts that are a little smoother (ie, smudged so compression is not as obvious).

Thinking a little more about the video encode, I think I do remember them having different video encodes after all. Sorry, must have been a mental lapse (too many of those lately!)

Lets put it this way, I am keeping the bluray and giving the hd dvd to my friend because the video is very close(identical most of the time) but I like the audio on bluray better.

Cool, thanks for the assessment. I might buy the Blu-ray version. After all, I'm going to need some great bass to test out my Castle in a month or so :D.

MKtheater

09-11-08, 10:33 AM

Iron man will be out then too.

lalakersfan34

09-11-08, 10:45 AM

Iron man will be out then too.

Very true. I remember thinking that Iron Man had some pretty good bass in the theater, so I have high hopes for the Blu-ray.

I personally can't wait for Dark Knight. That part with the gun on the rail firing bullets so they could analyze how they shattered was pretty sick. I wonder what frequency band those shots were in. I remember thinking "wow, those shots are pretty loud" - which is something I never think in a movie theater around here. That's the kind of scene that will be unbelievable on your system.

MKtheater

09-11-08, 07:53 PM

lalakersfan34

09-11-08, 08:19 PM

The Dark Night Prologue is my favorite demo piece now with awesome picture quality and the dynamics are awesome. I have finally decided to change things up in the theater. I will be selling some gear to make 4 dual sealed 18 inch sono's. 8 18 inch woofers total.

I guess those 4 18" water heater ported subs weren't cutting it, huh? :p. Just when I was feeling good about getting a Castle in my <1000 cubic foot room, you add even more bass to your already absurd system!

MKtheater

09-11-08, 08:48 PM

It won't be adding that much spl except 3-10 hz which will gain 20 db's. I just want to try the sealed array. I already listed all my Ada gear on Ebay to free up cap room. Oh, the midbass will increase as well.

sound dropouts

09-11-08, 11:03 PM

I personally can't wait for Dark Knight. That part with the gun on the rail firing bullets so they could analyze how they shattered was pretty sick. I wonder what frequency band those shots were in. I remember thinking "wow, those shots are pretty loud" - which is something I never think in a movie theater around here. That's the kind of scene that will be unbelievable on your system.

Yes, those WERE loud in the theater...the only part of the movie that I thought was really loud. There were times when the movie was SUPPOSED to be loud, but the subs were not up to it.

DevilDog151

09-14-08, 01:40 AM

What I'm really waiting for is that scene where the Joker blows up that hospital. I have some really high expectations for this movie come Dec.

saprano

09-14-08, 02:54 AM

I cant wait for the dark knight ether. i love playing the Prologue on my system.the scene were the bank robber slams that thing on the volt to crack it open shook my room, i remember in imax thats part was loud.

Kevin12586

09-14-08, 12:13 PM

What I'm really waiting for is that scene where the Joker blows up that hospital. I have some really high expectations for this movie come Dec.

Agreed

DrPainMD

09-14-08, 07:25 PM

I have some really high expectations for this movie come Dec.

Don't, it might end up like the Transformers.... :(

sound dropouts

09-14-08, 10:51 PM

Don't, it might end up like the Transformers....

BB was good but not really REALLY great. the dark knight was mixed by the same people, so it probably will sound similar.

MKtheater

09-14-08, 11:09 PM

I thought BB was better than Transformers for bass.

Hector.B

09-15-08, 07:13 AM

these remote guns in dark knight were probably the loudest I have ever experienced at an imax theater or any theater!

MKtheater

09-15-08, 09:49 AM

That is how it was supposed to be, even Alfred commented how loud it was.

sound dropouts

09-15-08, 12:36 PM

I thought BB was better than Transformers for bass.

ditto

many movies are better than either however.

morevideoplz

09-16-08, 03:16 AM

DrPain or whom ever...Could some one post the waterfalls for the rear and side speakers from a blu ray with full range surround signal.I wish to know what kind of bass is really available to the rear speakers.Not what is present on the lfe channel.How much speaker makes sense back there.

bgillyjcu

09-19-08, 09:32 PM

DAMN Beowulf was HORRIBLE.

I mean it did have some pretty good bass scenes but the movie was awful and that CGI crap of humans was even worse! I even watched the BluRay and I couldn't stand how fake it looks!

a3plew

09-20-08, 01:36 AM

That is how it was supposed to be, even Alfred commented how loud it was.
:eek: Some good memories lol. I cant wait till this comes out on blu-ray. Is there a release date yet?

DrPainMD

09-20-08, 08:53 AM

:eek: Some good memories lol. I cant wait till this comes out on blu-ray. Is there a release date yet?

http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/news/07/30607.php

December 2 or December 9?

http://media.movieweb.com/news/2008/tdkdvd.jpg

spectrumbx

09-22-08, 03:27 PM

As "The Island" been mentioned?

It has very wide range of bass sound.

Nevermind, it's on the list.

DrPainMD

09-22-08, 08:09 PM

As "The Island" been mentioned?

It has very wide range of bass sound.

Nevermind, it's on the list.

During the car chase scene has some good bass.

a3plew

09-22-08, 10:22 PM

Ill get some time stamps by Thursday:the forbidden Kingdom on blu-ray had some decent low bass moments. :D

landshark1

09-23-08, 12:29 PM

Ill get some time stamps by Thursday:the forbidden Kingdom on blu-ray had some decent low bass moments. :D

yes, at the fighting scene, there's some good bass there!

DevilDog151

09-25-08, 01:11 AM

Wow, I just watched Hot Fuzz today and I can't believe a comedy can have more bass than all of the action movies I own. I told my buddy that I just found a DVD that had the most bass throughout the whole movie and when I told him what it was he just looked at me with this puzzled look and said "Hot Fuzz? I never would have thought". Throughout the whole movie pictures in my foyer were vibrating off the wall similar to Cloverfield except for a lot longer. I love this thread and you guys are awesome.
By the way does anyone have timestamps for Kill bill 1 & 2 on Blu?

MKtheater

09-25-08, 01:39 AM

MIkeDuke

09-26-08, 11:28 AM

I thought I read somewhere what the frequency range was during the bubble burst at the end of the matrix revolutions. That had some very low effects, room shook alot with deep vibrations. Anyone know what it was?
If I am not mistaken, I think it was 10hz. Someone had a spectral chart of this scene but I can't find it now.

shponglefan

09-27-08, 01:09 AM

Hot Fuzz was insane! The final shootout was just non-stop rumbling! I'm surprised my neighbors didn't call the cops on me. :D

Kevin12586

09-27-08, 03:16 PM

a3plew

09-27-08, 10:12 PM

The Forbidden Kingdom Blu-Ray DTS-MA 7.1

Chap 4 00:22:15
Chap 4 00:27:15
Chap 6 00:41:33
Chap 13 01:19:05
Chap 14 01:23:04
Chap 14 01:23:27
Chap 14 01:23:48
Chap 14 01:24:36
Chap 14 01:25:02
Chap 14 01:26:36

Enjoy :)
LOL:D My system has been in use non stop since the day I mentioned about posting the time stamps lol. Friends and family listening to music and watching movies for the past few days. Thank you.

Kevin12586

09-28-08, 02:15 PM

I wondered what happened to you posting them ;)

Good thing I checked here before I sent the movie back to Netflix.

DrPainMD

09-28-08, 03:44 PM

Kevin12586

09-28-08, 04:08 PM

No problem Doc

MKtheater

09-30-08, 04:23 PM

FINALLY, Guys, Iron Man has awesome and alot of bass. Very powerful throughout the whole movie. Enjoy.

bgillyjcu

09-30-08, 04:35 PM

So we are talking better than Transformers?

Are we at a Cloverfield level?

MK I know your system goes LOW....are we talking a lot of bass below the 30hz, 20hz, 15hz areas?

I am so mad today because I had a $25 gift card from Amazon so I ordered it from them. I thought they would ship it so we would have it today, but no they shipped it today so I'll probably have to wait until the weekend to watch it.

But hey, at least I'm getting this BluRay for free :)

MKtheater

09-30-08, 04:39 PM

I have not measured frequencies but there are scenes that are definitely like Cloverfield. Some really low stuff, some normal stuff, everything. Powerful. It did remind me of Cloverfield.

lfe man

09-30-08, 05:17 PM

Yeah, iron man is new 5 star bass candidate. Bass is so ridiculously strong in many places...one scene where iron man flies to afhganistan and hits the ground caused me to stop the film and then i walked kitchen to take some cool off.:D

laugsbach

09-30-08, 05:24 PM

^^

You guys are killing me.:eek::eek::eek::eek:

I have Iron Man right on my desk here at work. T-minus two hours and counting till I get home.:D

MKtheater

09-30-08, 10:04 PM

I just rewatched it and the bass is as strong as Cloverfield for sure. There is powerful bass anytime there is action(when there should be) and then some.

mojomike

09-30-08, 11:53 PM

The bass is strong pretty much any time Iron Man is suited up. The climax scenes start right at about 1:40 into the movie and those scenes seem to have the most bass. This movie is a rare bird: A great movie with great bass!

I'm not sure if the bass is quite as deep as Cloverfield, but it's excellent never the less.

DevilDog151

10-01-08, 02:55 AM

My vote for Bass movie of the week goes for Iron Man! I had two friends from work over today and In the first scene there was some explosions and I looked over to my friend and he was just grinning. From every step Iron Man takes to all the explosions and shootouts it was a non-stop audio overload although the track was mixed pretty low I had to turn the volume up louder than most movies. Partly also because I was showing off my new SVS sub to my friends. It also had a really good storyline and downey was pretty witty at times. All in all comic book movies have come a long way.

mojomike

10-01-08, 07:33 AM

The next bass movie to look for is Indiana Jones 4 which should be available in about two weeks. While I wouldn't consider it a bass reference movie, it does have a few scenes which seem to have very deep bass effects.

juggy4805

10-01-08, 09:59 AM

FINALLY, Guys, Iron Man has awesome and alot of bass. Very powerful throughout the whole movie. Enjoy.

The last fight had imense bass when the villain was walking around. Definitely a house shaker.

laugsbach

10-01-08, 10:18 AM

although the track was mixed pretty low I had to turn the volume up louder than most movies.

Same thing here DevilDog151. I had to increase the master volume to -4dB on my Onkyo 805 to have the same sonic impact that Cloverfield gives me on -14dB. I would guess a DRC flag on the BR.:confused::confused::confused:

MKtheater

10-01-08, 10:36 AM

I think IronMan is recorded fine and Cloverfield was hot.

DevilDog151

10-01-08, 07:38 PM

Same thing here DevilDog151. I had to increase the master volume to -4dB on my Onkyo 805 to have the same sonic impact that Cloverfield gives me on -14dB. I would guess a DRC flag on the BR.:confused::confused::confused:

I double checked my DRC on the PS3 and the it was off. On my reciever Late Night must not work on LinearPCM as it says "not available"

I watched it again today and ran my sub a little hotter and in the scene where he walks out the cave the LFE was so deep pictures in my dining room were vibrating off the wall. Extreme LFE with Iron Man.

morevideoplz

10-01-08, 08:58 PM

I asked the same question on post#1933 Other than the lfe on the subwoofer,how much full-range signal comes from the surrounds? Is there more bass from the side or rear surrounds? Should I maximize the surrounds for bass output or just let the subs handle all bass information?thanks

otk

10-01-08, 09:03 PM

Bee Movie, currently running on HBO has some bass in it

It has bass pretty much throughout the whole movie, a couple of notable scenes, the tennis ball scene is pretty cool and there's a pretty strong lighting strike in one scene. a scene early in the movie where a bee is doing some type of tests and getting swatted at with various household items gets the subs pumping

It's not really a "bass movie of the month" type movie but it does keep the subwoofers "busy" from start to finish

SbWillie

10-01-08, 09:29 PM

waterfalls for IM anyone? hmmm..

SbWillie

10-01-08, 09:34 PM

Based on my experiences(S) @ the THX cert. Warren I think the `F-22 Warp back' moment,the cave stompout, and the bulk of the climax should be pretty killer.....course there could be a TOn of lower stuff crossed out of the Warren mix.....
and NO I can't post ANY falls since this is NOT my main comp. :( I can't download the software!

laugsbach

10-01-08, 10:29 PM

I double checked my DRC on the PS3 and the it was off. On my reciever Late Night must not work on LinearPCM as it says "not available"

I watched it again today and ran my sub a little hotter and in the scene where he walks out the cave the LFE was so deep pictures in my dining room were vibrating off the wall. Extreme LFE with Iron Man.

I have a Sony 350 hooked up to an Onkyo 805 via HDMI and the 805 is bitstreaming the DD TrueHD. The 805 will default the Late Night Function to Auto for the TrueHD track and bingo, soft bass output for Iron Man. Set the Late Night Function to off and WOW.:eek::eek::eek:

Here are the SPL numbers on the first Humvee Explosion at 0:02:34:

With Late Night Function: Default setting of AUTO = 98dB
With Late Night Function: OFF = 108dB

Above with a MV of -14dB.

Just another thing to remember, turn off LNF.:D:D

Scott Simonian

10-02-08, 01:05 PM

Lolz!

I can't believe people are having so many issues regarding the dynamic range. Why would anyone leave the Midnight mode to Auto anyway? I always turn that **** off. :p

The bass in IM was pretty decent. Not fantastic but plentiful. Personally, I found the bass in Cloverfield to be much more intimidating and scary at times. IM just rocked the house. Obviously not a bad thing but I found it to be mostly just boomy rumbles for the most part.

laugsbach

10-02-08, 05:43 PM

Lolz!

I can't believe people are having so many issues regarding the dynamic range. Why would anyone leave the Midnight mode to Auto anyway? I always turn that **** off. :p

Hi Scott, on my Onkyo 805, the default setting is AUTO for DD TrueHD tracks that are bitstreaming from my Sony 350. I can change it to OFF, but as soon as I cycle the 805 (ON, Standby, ON) the Late Night Function has defaulted back to AUTO. The AUTO setting for IM really neuters the bass. The AUTO setting for Cloverfield seems to have no effect at my listening volume.

So, I have to remember to turn OFF LNF or set the Sony 350 to decode TrueHD. Then when a DTS-MA track shows up, I have to remember to switch the Sony 350 back to bitstreaming or I miss out on the DTS-MA.

So, yes Scott, I wish I could just set LNF to OFF and forget about it but Onkyo, DD TrueHD and/or the way the BR was authored won't let me.:(

Scott Simonian

10-02-08, 07:25 PM

Hi Scott, on my Onkyo 805, the default setting is AUTO for DD TrueHD tracks that are bitstreaming from my Sony 350. I can change it to OFF, but as soon as I cycle the 805 (ON, Standby, ON) the Late Night Function has defaulted back to AUTO. The AUTO setting for IM really neuters the bass. The AUTO setting for Cloverfield seems to have no effect at my listening volume.

So, I have to remember to turn OFF LNF or set the Sony 350 to decode TrueHD. Then when a DTS-MA track shows up, I have to remember to switch the Sony 350 back to bitstreaming or I miss out on the DTS-MA.

So, yes Scott, I wish I could just set LNF to OFF and forget about it but Onkyo, DD TrueHD and/or the way the BR was authored won't let me.:(

Ouch! Now that is a feature I definitely wouldn't want turning on without me knowing about it. Glad my receiver doesn't do that. That would be a showstopper for me if I were out looking for new equipment. Sorry to hear you have to go through all that.

laugsbach

10-02-08, 09:25 PM

^^

Thanks for the kind words, Scott.:)

BTW, your set-up looks and I'm sure, sounds amazing.:eek::eek::eek:

allredp

10-02-08, 10:09 PM

Just finished IM and am very impressed! My buddy called and agreed--this is definitely in the top 5 LFE movies I've experienced.

Only problem is I believe I may have bottomed out either my main R or my PB13U during the main fight at the end. Right where they are climbing in the sky and freezing over, there's the part where IM hits the bad dude, there's a quick, deep LFE hit and then a couple more.

Yikes, something didn't sound like the rest at that part! I'm rewinding now to see what's up, but I've never maxxed my system out on anything yet, so, I'm really impressed (and hopeful that I haven't damaged anything).

Anyone else run that last scene and have any issues?

I was running my system at 77dB on my Onkyo 875 (as pre/pro) and pushing over 400w to the LCR via my Sherbourn 7/2100 in bridged mode. I routinely run Transformers over 80dB, so I thought I'd be OK...

Kevin12586

10-02-08, 10:09 PM

Did anyone take any bass timestamps in Iron Man?

allredp

10-02-08, 10:26 PM

OK, re-ran that scene in the final battle while standing near the sub.

It is definitely producing a sharp "woop-woop" kind of sound. Never heard this out of my Ultra before--and I've run things pretty hot. Is this what people call "chuffing"? How could I test if it is, or what it is?!

This only occurs where the bad dude is falling back to earth and IM is intermitently firing off his thrusters as he tries not to fall as well. It doesn't happen anywhere else in the movie--and there's lots of LFE all throughout.

Interestingly the cone isn't visibly extending as far as other LFE parts in this vicinity. However, it is clearly making an ugly sound.

Any ideas?

Waterfall stamps should reveal something--anyone able to provide those for IM?

mojomike

10-03-08, 10:12 AM

lalakersfan34

10-03-08, 10:52 AM

Please try that scene with different tuning settings. That may help to figure out if it's chuffing. Personally, I've never been ably to bottom out a 13Ultra.

I'm also curious to know what tune allredp is using with his Ultra. It sure seems like the sound he's getting is chuffing, and that's much more likely to occur in the 10hz tune. The 15hz tune, from what people here say, isn't very prone to chuffing, and the 20hz tune should probably never run in to chuffing. Regardless, I'm very glad to know Iron Man has such serious bass. The Castle should hopefully be here by the end of next week and I'm hoping to use Iron Man to put it through its paces :D

allredp

10-03-08, 11:48 AM

Please try that scene with different tuning settings. That may help to figure out if it's chuffing. Personally, I've never been ably to bottom out a 13Ultra.

I figured that could be a problem, but I'm actually running it in 20hz tune (no ports blocked and the subsonic filter is at 20hz also).

I've been racking my brain about it and am wondering what others are experiencing at the same scene? Is it possible that this is the sound that it is supposed to make as per the sound mix?

Last night I powered the sub down and ran the scene with just my mains (still x-over at 50hz) to test whether it was at higher frequency, but it isn't. On the mains it barely registers, so it must be pretty low.

Anyway, I'll see what the other tunes give me just in case.

mojomike

10-03-08, 01:07 PM

Give it a try in sealed mode. Obviously while sealed, chuffing is impossible.

SbWillie

10-03-08, 01:55 PM

allredp

10-03-08, 05:17 PM

Give it a try in sealed mode. Obviously while sealed, chuffing is impossible.

Aha, an excellent point! Will do and report...

bgillyjcu

10-03-08, 05:23 PM

IM Waterfalls.........seriously...I thought you boys would be all over this one and quickly! :)

I'm still sitting here with no BLU RAY of IM because USPS is retarded and SLOW. You would think a PREORDER of this from Amazon would get here by at least NOW considering it shipped from a PA location and I live in OHIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I too have a PB-13 so I'll report on its performance when I get the BluRay.

Scott Simonian

10-03-08, 05:35 PM

I wish I could contribute to the waterfalls these days. I mostly find that I am picking up the Blu-ray version of things that come out now. My PC doesn't have a BD drive in it so I can't do them like I used to...

My next computer will have a BD drive in it, for sure. :)

DrPainMD

10-03-08, 11:34 PM

Revolver (2005) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0365686/)

nice bass shoot out in the begining

DrPainMD

10-03-08, 11:41 PM

Did anyone take any bass timestamps in Iron Man?

lets hope

allredp

10-04-08, 01:59 AM

Hey, mystery solved on the weird sound made during the finale of IM on my PB13U.

I had the LPF set to 120hz, not the 80hz (my x-over is at 50hz). Once I switched the nasty noise is gone! The Ultra is cranking again!!!

Very cool...

+1 on the charts and graphs for IM.

Thanks.

DrPainMD

10-04-08, 12:03 PM

BASS Movie of the Week/Month: Week of September 30, 2008 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=8971063&postcount=4)

http://images.blu-ray.com/movies/covers/899_front.jpg

DevilDog151

10-04-08, 03:25 PM

Nice, Iron Man definitely has some extreme lfe. Now in two weeks we got "The Incredible Hulk" coming out. It's going to be fun seeing how that one plays out. I got a crappy screeners copy so the audio isn't too good. On the scene where they meet Hulk at the university and they blast him with those soundwave cannons it hit pretty low LFE sweeps. I can't wait to get it on Blu in all its DTS-HD MA glory.

DrPainMD

10-04-08, 03:43 PM

DevilDog151

10-04-08, 08:43 PM

I voted over in the audio tier thread for Daredevil as reference. It has an amazing soundtrack. There was lots of LFE as well but, Iron Man definitely tops it in the LFE department except it's a shame the rest of it's mix was sub par.

Smarty-pants

10-04-08, 10:33 PM

I finally got Iron Man in the mail today :).
Had a hectic day with the kids all day, so when the wife got home form work I told her to keep the kids upstairs while I do some (ahem) testing in my theater.
I got to watch the first half at reference level, and man, all I can say is WOW! :D
The thing has some killer LFE, and a really good comic movie too.
Can't wait till I get my new theater done and then it'll really be time to get serious :D.

phatfreeza

10-05-08, 05:23 PM

thirdeye11

10-06-08, 10:08 AM

the one scene in iron man where he goes supersonic to golmera(sp?) was sick... the sonic boom absolutely shook my house. don't have a timestamp but it was NICE!!!

definitely some fun bass moments in this one. i think its better than transformers!

So many people claim that Transformers didn't have good bass, but for whatever reason in my room I think it's absolutely one of the best movies out there.

I watched Iron Man last night, and while it definitely had some good deep bass action that rumbled I never felt like it was any of that "kick you in the chest" bass. My house was shaking quite a bit though during certain parts. I like when he touched down in Golmira. I remember that one shaking my house, and I think the initial explosion in the first 2 or 3 minutes may have been the loudest bass in the entire movie!

The one comment I would make about this movie was that there were multiple parts where the bass shakes your entire room, however, I also felt like most of the bass noises sounded similar to one another so the variety wasn't there as much as I would have liked. Also someone else's comments about the rest of the mix being poor I would agree with. While it was not terrible, and certainly watchable this movie did not create spaces for me like Fight Club or any of my other surround sound 'standards' do.

mojomike

10-06-08, 10:13 AM

MKtheater

10-06-08, 10:23 AM

Exactly, Transformers had more punchy bass but Iron Man had more bass overall with more output. I still like the bass in Transformers. Heck, I like all bass even if its just some.

backwoodz

10-06-08, 10:41 AM

the one scene in iron man where he goes supersonic to golmera(sp?) was sick... the sonic boom absolutely shook my house. don't have a timestamp but it was NICE!!!
+1...that was insane

I had just finished hookin up my new amp and sub and had quite a few people over for the movie. My neighbors couldn't have been happy with me that night:D

definitely some fun bass moments in this one. i think its better than transformers!

I have to disagree:p I had never seen Ironman before and I was expecting more 'action' scenes:rolleyes:

allredp

10-06-08, 04:07 PM

I watched Iron Man last night, and while it definitely had some good deep bass action that rumbled I never felt like it was any of that "kick you in the chest" bass...

I also felt like most of the bass noises sounded similar to one another so the variety wasn't there as much as I would have liked. Also someone else's comments about the rest of the mix being poor I would agree with. While it was not terrible, and certainly watchable this movie did not create spaces for me like Fight Club or any of my other surround sound 'standards' do.

Interesting point--I had very similar experience.

I loved it and was impressed with the amount and depth of the bass, but it was pretty "one-note" throughout.

E.g. when IM comes out of the cave and start incinerating everything, there's a big stationary machine gun that starts spitting at him. However, the bass is very, very low, rather than a more mid-bass sound you'd expect.

Other gunfire wasn't really punchy either--like you get on The Island, or Live Free or Die Hard.

I loved the movie, but am not compelled to watch it again as a "demo" necessarily.

phatfreeza

10-06-08, 09:40 PM

So many people claim that Transformers didn't have good bass, but for whatever reason in my room I think it's absolutely one of the best movies out there.

I watched Iron Man last night, and while it definitely had some good deep bass action that rumbled I never felt like it was any of that "kick you in the chest" bass. My house was shaking quite a bit though during certain parts. I like when he touched down in Golmira. I remember that one shaking my house, and I think the initial explosion in the first 2 or 3 minutes may have been the loudest bass in the entire movie!

The one comment I would make about this movie was that there were multiple parts where the bass shakes your entire room, however, I also felt like most of the bass noises sounded similar to one another so the variety wasn't there as much as I would have liked. Also someone else's comments about the rest of the mix being poor I would agree with. While it was not terrible, and certainly watchable this movie did not create spaces for me like Fight Club or any of my other surround sound 'standards' do.

i think i may have to watch transformers again hahaha :)

on a side note, there were some scenes that i did feel needed a little more oomph... someone already said it but that scene where he comes out of the cave and starts flaming everyone, it was hard to differentiate the bass. it just seemed like one long bass note.