Question guys. Have any of you noticed how high the bitrate is on linear PCM compared to even DTS-hd? I just watched POTC-AWE last night and the bitrate was 6.9 mbps and stayed that way the whole time. The sound was awesome. Are all uncompressed tracks this high(I also noticed this on The Wild)? I say forget the true hd and dts-hd and just put uncompressed audio on it. I know it takes up alot of space but it was very dynamic, smooth, and detailed.(more than ever). Oh yeah, the bass was great as well.

So many people claim that Transformers didn't have good bass, but for whatever reason in my room I think it's absolutely one of the best movies out there.

Transformers on BR in my room is just sick!!! :D

Same goes for Iron man....the Jerico explosion demo scene shook my room :D

How do I create the waterfall measurements during a movie? I would love to see some graphs of the scenes in my room.

I have the equipment and the notebook PC, what software?

Transformers on BR in my room is just sick!!! :D

Same goes for Iron man....the Jerico explosion demo scene shook my room :D

How do I create the waterfall measurements during a movie? I would love to see some graphs of the scenes in my room.

I have the equipment and the notebook PC, what software?

Not sure but the waterfalls are created by analyzing the content on the disc, not in your room. Meaning if you want to do waterfalls of Iron Man bass scenes from your BD disc then you would need a BD player on your laptop in order to take such measurements. This has nothing to do with room response, only the source material itself and what's contained on the disc.

the one scene in iron man where he goes supersonic to golmera(sp?) was sick... the sonic boom absolutely shook my house. don't have a timestamp but it was NICE!!!

definitely some fun bass moments in this one. i think its better than transformers!

*Taken from the Iron Man trailer on the Transformers HD-DVD*

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2009/1667277820_21e515a14a_o.jpg

That big red blob at the top is when he goes supersonic.

Not sure but the waterfalls are created by analyzing the content on the disc, not in your room. Meaning if you want to do waterfalls of Iron Man bass scenes from your BD disc then you would need a BD player on your laptop in order to take such measurements. This has nothing to do with room response, only the source material itself and what's contained on the disc.

I have a BD player on my HTPC but I still thought we could measure the movie in our rooms.

If not waterfall stuff, is there something else that I can use to measure what is happening my room during different scenes in movies?

"Horton Hears a Who!" Blu-ray DTS-HD:MA
1. Chap ? (0:22:40) 6-22Hz WaterFall (http://xs432.xs.to/xs432/08410/whoosh414.jpg)

Thanks to Jesse S
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14848563#post14848563

so i watched Iron Man on Blu this weekend...and wow! thats all i can say is wow!

the question is....why is it only 4 stars????!?! i think it should be bumped higher than that...but thats just me...too many scenes that made me go WTF?!?! (like cloverfield)...just my 2cents :)

so i watched Iron Man on Blu this weekend...and wow! thats all i can say is wow!

the question is....why is it only 4 stars????!?! i think it should be bumped higher than that...but thats just me...too many scenes that made me go WTF?!?! (like cloverfield)...just my 2cents :)

It's definitely not 5 stars. Flight of the Phoenix, and Return of the King both easily best Iron Man.

Arguing over 4 or 4.5 stars though.. not really sure what the difference is. I do agree though that it was comparable to Live Free or Die Hard which is rated 4.5 stars. It's also comparable to Transformers though in my opinion which is rated 4 stars. Sort of splitting hairs at that point though isn't it?

Live Free or Die Hard which is rated 4.5 stars.

LFODH is currently in the 5 stars category...:)

I say forget the true hd and dts-hd and just put uncompressed audio on it.

All other things being equal, TrueHD, DTS MA, and uncompressed PCM should all be exactly the same except for the bitrate. It's no different than saving a big spreadsheet directly, or zipping it up. Uncompressed PCM will have a constant bitrate since it's, well, not compressed.

IronMan 4.314 stars ??? :rolleyes: ;)

4.314 would round up to 4.5 :D.
I vote for 4.5 as well. I was also surprised that it was not on the 4.5 list when I first saw it on the 4 list, just didn't say anything till now. :)

4.314 would round up to 4.5 :D.
I vote for 4.5 as well. I was also surprised that it was not on the 4.5 list when I first saw it on the 4 list, just didn't say anything till now. :)

seems to be deserving it now, before it wasnt

It's now http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/4.5stars.gif

IronMan 4.314 stars ??? :rolleyes: ;)

http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/images/smilies/Animations/lol.gif

How about the THX intro for INDY 4. That was awesome. Just that is great for demo's.

How about the THX intro for INDY 4. That was awesome. Just that is great for demo's.

was it a new one?

or one of the old ones?

http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/thx_logo.jpg

http://www.thx.com/cinema/trailers.html

Yep that new THX trailer is awesome! Wish it was TrueHD even though it probably wouldnt make much of a difference.

It was the first one in your link, amazing life. This was new to me. The THX intro had more bass than the entire movie. Also, this THX intro has more bass than any other THX intro before it. The bass in INDY 4 was good, much more accurate than loud.

"INDY 4" is Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull ?

"INDY 4" is Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull ?

yes

yes

thanks :)

Are the lack of waterfalls nowadays due to blurays? I know that is all I buy now.

Are the lack of waterfalls nowadays due to blurays? I know that is all I buy now.

It is for me anyway. Since last October, I've been really more interested in HD content than any regular dvd release. The only regular dvds I've bought since have been cheap dvds for matching with my 'Rifftracks'.

Anyway, yeah, waterfalls have been on hold for me since my main purchases have been Blu-ray and I don't have a BD player on my PC, yet. I plot my waterfalls straight off the disc so I'll need to get a BD drive to get back on track here.

:p

That is what I thought.

Yep that new THX trailer is awesome! Wish it was TrueHD even though it probably wouldnt make much of a difference.

I saw this trailer yesterday, I just put in the disk to see the opening scene.
Yes this new THX trailer is incredible and I believe it is encoded in a lossless track DD THD or LPCM. I have an HDMI 1.1 receiver and the Multi CH PCM lit up when the THX trailer came on.... disappeared during the "Geoge Lucas LOGO".... and re-appeared when the movie started.
Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I believe it was DDTHD or at least LPCM. Someone with an AVR 1.3- bitstreaming could verify.

Anyway the sound was incredible.

Paul

I saw this trailer yesterday, I just put in the disk to see the opening scene.
Yes this new THX trailer is incredible and I believe it is encoded in a lossless track DD THD or LPCM. I have an HDMI 1.1 receiver and the Multi CH PCM lit up when the THX trailer came on.... disappeared during the "Geoge Lucas LOGO".... and re-appeared when the movie started.
Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I believe it was DDTHD or at least LPCM. Someone with an AVR 1.3- bitstreaming could verify.

Anyway the sound was incredible.

Paul

The on-screen display on my PS3 was showing it to be a 640kbps DD track. Sounded amazing regardless!

It is for me anyway. Since last October, I've been really more interested in HD content than any regular dvd release. The only regular dvds I've bought since have been cheap dvds for matching with my 'Rifftracks'.

Anyway, yeah, waterfalls have been on hold for me since my main purchases have been Blu-ray and I don't have a BD player on my PC, yet. I plot my waterfalls straight off the disc so I'll need to get a BD drive to get back on track here.

:pIs that too difficult to put cable receiver lfeout to comp audio in and makesome waterfalls that way?:cool:

Is that too difficult to put cable receiver lfeout to comp audio in and makesome waterfalls that way?:cool:


It is when the AVR is in one room and the PC is in another room. Seperated by a hallway and all that space between you know?

I guess I am rather lazy about it. :)

I saw this trailer yesterday, I just put in the disk to see the opening scene.
Yes this new THX trailer is incredible and I believe it is encoded in a lossless track DD THD or LPCM. I have an HDMI 1.1 receiver and the Multi CH PCM lit up when the THX trailer came on.... disappeared during the "Geoge Lucas LOGO".... and re-appeared when the movie started.
Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I believe it was DDTHD or at least LPCM. Someone with an AVR 1.3- bitstreaming could verify.

Anyway the sound was incredible.

Paul


Yes I saw the THX trailier and yes it sounds amazing. Its was showing on my receiver as plain old Dolby Digital.

Yes I saw the THX trailier and yes it sounds amazing. Its was showing on my receiver as plain old Dolby Digital.

Thanks bori, I couldn't tell as I had my 1400 internally decoding the sound... so my receiver only displays Muti Ch PCM regardless of whether it is regular DD or DDTHD. Although, now that I think about it, my samsung BD player will be able to tell me.... anyway I'll check it again tonight.
BTW, the DDTHD track on the film is also pretty nice. I only watched the opening scene but it sounded great. As for the THX trailer, your right, it did sound amazing!!!

Paul

Are the lack of waterfalls nowadays due to blurays? I know that is all I buy now.

Maybe,

but I'll have some IronMan (DVD) waterfalls sometime later today (Saturday).

:cool:

cool

cool

just finished watching it, was ok bass wise. Had to turn it up more than normal. Transformers was better.

But , I love any marvel comic book movie! Needs a part 2 & 3

_Noah_
On the Master List Of Bass has Iron Man receiving 4.5 stars and Transformers only receiving 4?

care to vote??, ooohhhh you deleted your post

who else thinks IronMan is better than Transformers?

I thought Iron Man was better than Transformers for bass.

I thought Iron Man was better than Transformers for bass.

really?

Well I'm working on the waterfalls now, about 1/3 done the movie. Should be up in 3-4 hrs.

care to vote??, ooohhhh you deleted your post

who else thinks IronMan is better than Transformers?

I deleted my post because I saw the discussion of why Iron Man was rounded up. I thought both movies had amazing bass, just different types.

Transformers seemed to have a lot of "rumbling" bass / sine sweeps through out.

Iron Man had a lot of hard "punchy" bass, specifically when Stark first decides to fight evil and breaks all the windows out of his lab.

I deleted my post because I saw the discussion of why Iron Man was rounded up. I thought both movies had amazing bass, just different types.

Transformers seemed to have a lot of "rumbling" bass / sine sweeps through out.

Iron Man had a lot of hard "punchy" bass, specifically when Stark first decides to fight evil and breaks all the windows out of his lab.

thank you for sharing your valuable opinion, so if you had to rank the both of them,.....?

Iron Man WaterFalls



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Here's an idea, and this is just a suggestion DrP... I don't mean to tell you how to run your thread, just throwing this out there...

What if instead of ranking the movies with just a 5star/4star/3star/ect ranking, that you actually do away with those rankings... and instead group all the movies together and rank each one on a scale of 1-100. That may eliminate the confusion of one movie being 4stars as opposed to being 4.5stars. So for instance Iron Man may fall in the middle somewhere with a ranking of let's say 85 out of 100... which would equate to about 4.25 on your current scale.
Thoughts?

Here's an idea, and this is just a suggestion DrP... I don't mean to tell you how to run your thread, just throwing this out there...

What if instead of ranking the movies with just a 5star/4star/3star/ect ranking, that you actually do away with those rankings... and instead group all the movies together and rank each one on a scale of 1-100. That may eliminate the confusion of one movie being 4stars as opposed to being 4.5stars. So for instance Iron Man may fall in the middle somewhere with a ranking of let's say 85 out of 100... which would equate to about 4.25 on your current scale.
Thoughts?


I'm open to all suggestions


so rank some, what would ironman be?

transformers
cloverfield
lotr
bhd
etc...

I just watched some demos of Iron Man, Transformers, Dark Knight prologue, X-men 3, WOTW and INDY 4(THX intro). Nothing touches WOTW but Cloverfield comes very close. Xmen 3 has more deep bass than transformers and Iron man but less over all bass. Just play the scene with phoenix and professor X. These are all great. I would probably put all of them in the same class, excellent. WOTW and Cloverfield would be reference Standard.

I'm open to all suggestions


so rank some, what would ironman be?

transformers
cloverfield
lotr
bhd
etc...

I think a lot more input from other more experienced members is in order here.

I have not listened to all of the movies on the current lists at reference level on my current system. Plus the fact that only a simple Audyssey calibration has been done on my system, and the room is not ideal for interpretation and critique of said subjects.
With that said, lately I have viewed Iron Man Blu-ray at reference, and based on past listening sessions, I would probably rank it at about an 83 on a scale of 1-100. As well as I have viewed Transformers HD-DVD, and would rank that at around an 81.

What we need to keep in mind here I think, is that there needs to be left on the table, "room for improvement". So what would we rank the the best title on the list?... certainly not a 100, because that would leave no "room for improvement" within future titles.

Anyone else have any opinions?... rankings?

thank you for sharing your valuable opinion, so if you had to rank the both of them,.....?

Sorry if my input isn't up to par with your superior knowledge and skill. I would rank both Transformers and Iron Man with a solid four stars. I watched I, Robot today and I think it bested them both.

I would agree with that Smarty-pants. They are close after hearing them again.

I just watched some demos of Iron Man, Transformers, Dark Knight prologue, X-men 3, WOTW and INDY 4(THX intro). Nothing touches WOTW but Cloverfield comes very close. Xmen 3 has more deep bass than transformers and Iron man but less over all bass. Just play the scene with phoenix and professor X. These are all great. I would probably put all of them in the same class, excellent. WOTW and Cloverfield would be reference Standard.

i think WOTW was awesome too. a lot of people seem to like the lightning strike scenes but i liked the scene where the tri-pods were coming up out of the ground. did you have any favorite scenes or just the whole movie ?

Sorry if my input isn't up to par with your superior knowledge and skill. I would rank both Transformers and Iron Man with a solid four stars. I watched I, Robot today and I think it bested them both.

Sorry if I came off that way, it was'nt my intention. In no way am I superior in knowledge and skill to anyone here or anywhere.

Thank you

I wouldn't have interpreted your comments in that way DrP. I'm not sure why Noah did though. Didn't seem sarcastic at all... and belive me, I would know... my name IS Samrty-pants :D;).

Sorry if I came off that way, it was'nt my intention. In no way am I superior in knowledge and skill to anyone here or anywhere.

Thank you

I apologize as well. Your last few posts seemed sarcastic to me. I'm sorry I misunderstood your intent.
-Noah

Well, I'm known to be a little sarcastic once in awhile.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

;)

Ok so I uploaded all the IronMan WaterFalls

begin here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14892037#post14892037

Ok so I uploaded all the IronMan WaterFalls

You sure did, it took like 5 minutes for the dag_gone page to download before I could read the last post :D.

Ok so I uploaded all the IronMan WaterFalls

begin here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14892037#post14892037

thanks doc :)

Wow, there's some pretty deep bass there in Iron Man! Can't wait to watch it with my Castle next week :D. Great work, DrPain!

Ok so I uploaded all the IronMan WaterFalls

begin here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14892037#post14892037


WOW, thanks DrPain :eek::D

Nice waterfalls doc. I did some matrix reloaded waterfalls for your thread.:)

chap1 trinitys mission
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap1trinitysmission.jpg

chap3 agents are coming
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap3agentsarecoming.jpg

chap3 neos superman thing
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap3neossupermanthing.jpg

chap4 welcome home
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap4welcomehome.jpg

chap12 seraph and neo fighting
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap12seraphandneofighting.jpg

chap15 neo with ironpole
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap15neowithironpole.jpg

chap15 neo pushes agents and flies away
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap15neopushesagentsandfl.jpg

chap20 i handle them
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap20ihandlethem.jpg

chap21 neo flies away from the mountains
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap21neofliesawayofthemou.jpg

chap22 just follow the sirens
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap22justfollowthesirens.jpg

chap25 neo saves morpheus and keymaker
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap25neosavesmorpheusandk.jpg

chap26 door to source
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap26doortosource.jpg

chap26 drill
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap26drill.jpg

chap27 powerplant blow
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap27powerplantblow.jpg

chap29 door of architect
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap29doortoarchitech.jpg

chap32 neo saves trinity
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap32neosavestrinity.jpg

chap34 its hammer
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/marrixrelchap34itsthehammer.jpg

More :eek:stuff later.;)

Thanks lfe man, I have been looking for reloaded waterfalls. Do you happen to have a waterfall when the agent jumps on the caddy during the car chase, also when the car flips over after that? Thanks again

Thanks lfe man, I have been looking for reloaded waterfalls. Do you happen to have a waterfall when the agent jumps on the caddy during the car chase, also when the car flips over after that? Thanks again


+1

That part certainly has it's share of deep 15-30hz rumble to it.

:)

i think WOTW was awesome too. a lot of people seem to like the lightning strike scenes but i liked the scene where the tri-pods were coming up out of the ground. did you have any favorite scenes or just the whole movie ?

One of my favorite parts is right when the tractor trailer crashes into the house after the overpass gets destroyed. That has some incredibly loud bass.

Thanks lfe man, I have been looking for reloaded waterfalls. Do you happen to have a waterfall when the agent jumps on the caddy during the car chase, also when the car flips over after that? Thanks again

You mean scene where that car hits ground two times after flip, i think that scene is in that "just follow the sirens" waterfall, exactly to right where you can see that color palette bc... some nice 15hz booms just there if you zoom that waterfall.

Matrix reloaded is just great to show some 10-25hz bass energy and there is not much strong upper frequencies to mask them in same time.:)

excellent

thnx lfe man!!! :cool:

One of my favorite parts is right when the tractor trailer crashes into the house after the overpass gets destroyed. That has some incredibly loud bass.

That's one of my favorite parts too. So glad I asked Kweezr to plot that part. Serious bass! Another good part with gobs of deep stuff is the hillside battle and the explosion.

One of my favorite parts is right when the tractor trailer crashes into the house after the overpass gets destroyed. That has some incredibly loud bass.

That is some incredible bass!!:D

"Matrix Reloaded"

WaterFalls !!!!

http://images.blu-ray.com/movies/covers/1089_front.jpg

"Matrix Reloaded" HD-DVD DD+ TrueHD Blu-ray TrueHD

1. Trinity's Mission, Chap 1 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap1trinitysmission.jpg)
2. Agents are Coming, Chap 3 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap3agentsarecoming.jpg)
3. Neo Superman Thing, Chap 3 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap3neossupermanthing.jpg)
4. Welcome Home, Chap 4 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap4welcomehome.jpg)
5. Seraph and Neo Fighting, Chap 12 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap12seraphandneofighting.jpg)
6. Neo With Ironpole, Chap 15 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap15neowithironpole.jpg)
7. Neo Pushes Agents and Flies Away, Chap 15 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap15neopushesagentsandfl.jpg)
8. I Handle Them, Chap 20 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap20ihandlethem.jpg)
9. Neo Flies Away From the Mountains, Chap 21 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap21neofliesawayofthemou.jpg)
10. Just Follow the Sirens, Chap 22 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap22justfollowthesirens.jpg)
11. Neo Saves Morpheus and Keymaker, Chap 25 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap25neosavesmorpheusandk.jpg)
12. Door to Source, Chap 26 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap26doortosource.jpg)
13. Drill, Chap 26 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap26drill.jpg)
14. Powerplant Blow, Chap 27 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap27powerplantblow.jpg)
15. Door of Architect, Chap 29 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap29doortoarchitech.jpg)
16. Neo Saves Trinity, Chap 32 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/matrixrelchap32neosavestrinity.jpg)
17. It's Hammer, Chap 34 WaterFall (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/marrixrelchap34itsthehammer.jpg)

Tomorrow!!!

The Incredible Hulk (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800080/)

Universal Studios | 2008 | 113 mins | Rated PG-13 | Oct 21, 2008


Blu-ray Specs

Video

Video codec: VC-1
Video resolution: 1080p
Aspect ratio: 2.35:1

Audio

English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
English: Dolby Digital 2.0
French: DTS 5.1
Spanish: DTS 5.1

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/screenshot.php?movieid=824&position=6
http://images.blu-ray.com/movies/covers/824_front.jpg

Guys let me tell you. I just finished watching The Incredible Hulk and the bass in that movie is something I've never experienced in my home theater. I had pictures vibrating off the walls, DVD and BRs falling off the shelf and two of my friends grinning from ear to ear at every bass intensive scene. AMAZING REFERENCE ALL THE WAY.

What about Matrix Revolutions. I would be curious about some of those scenes. I am sure that the final attack in Zion has some great stuff. I know I remember seeing some charts of the last fight with Smith with water bubbles that seemed pretty low. Maybe I need to pick up The Incredible Hulk.

If Target thinks I'm paying $30 for the Hulk Blu-Ray they are nuts.

Why don't they just honor their online price of $25...

Stores are so dumb these days.

Guys let me tell you. I just finished watching The Incredible Hulk and the bass in that movie is something I've never experienced in my home theater. I had pictures vibrating off the walls, DVD and BRs falling off the shelf and two of my friends grinning from ear to ear at every bass intensive scene. AMAZING REFERENCE ALL THE WAY.

I agree 110% :eek: Absolutely amazing. I envy you guys that have reference systems and multiple subs! Strap down anything that is loose :D

The movie of the Week/Month is MIA! :rolleyes:

I agree 110% :eek: Absolutely amazing. I envy you guys that have reference systems and multiple subs! Strap down anything that is loose :D

+100 definitely had my room vibrating. Its a reference audio all the way.

I agree 110% :eek: Absolutely amazing. I envy you guys that have reference systems and multiple subs! Strap down anything that is loose :D

I have the H100 and I was afraid to turn it really loud with the Incredible Hulk Blu-ray. I played it way below what I normally watch movies at and this DTS track has extreme dynamics. The 50 Cal scene is amazing. It has crazy Bass. I have to watch it when the kid isn't asleep.:D

Movie of the week!

Well, I haven't seen it on BD yet (just in theaters). The one scene in particular that I thought had the best bass was towards the end of the movie when the helicopter crashes. Seemed pretty deep there. If anyone does a waterfall for Incredible Hulk, that's the part I would like to see plotted.

Just finished watching the Incredible Hulk myself. This is a great bass movie. Another scene that was awesome was when they fired those 2 canons at the college. Even when firing tranquilizer guns it would hit you in the chest. Excellent, will be a new demo movie for me. I liked the bass better than Iron Man for sure. Very dynamic sound track.

So would you say HULK is a BUYER even though it is $25 on BluRay...


OR

A renter via my NetFlix

???????????????????????????

So would you say HULK is a BUYER even though it is $25 on BluRay...


OR

A renter via my NetFlix

???????????????????????????

I rented mine online but, I am looking to buy it now that I saw how good it was. I am looking to pay 20 bucks not 25.

The movie of the Week/Month is MIA! :rolleyes:

hmmmmm :confused:



;)

I'm trying to test out my H-100 which I just got last week (along w/ SR606 & other goodies)

I have these HD-DVDS:

- 300
- matrix trilogoy
- riddick
- u571
- sands of iowa jima
- sky captain
- happy feet

Which should I start with? It looks like 300, u571 & riddick are at the top of the BASS list.

What about Matrix Revolutions. I would be curious about some of those scenes. I am sure that the final attack in Zion has some great stuff. I know I remember seeing some charts of the last fight with Smith with water bubbles that seemed pretty low. Maybe I need to pick up The Incredible Hulk.

Sorry i dont have matrix films anymore(reloaded was loaned from public library), but if i find revolutions and matrix there...then why not. :cool:

Brad, take this for what it is worth. I have a movie night every Tuesday night and the same guys come over. They all have watched WOTW, Cloverfield, Transformers, Iron man, LOTR(all of them), etc... After watching The Incredible Hulk they were all smiles and said it was awesome. I bought it for $26 on bluray, worth it to me. I enjoyed the movie as well. The Incredible Hulk was always one of my favorites as a kid and they did it right this time.

So would you say HULK is a BUYER even though it is $25 on BluRay...


OR

A renter via my NetFlix

???????????????????????????

I'd definitely pay 34.99 for it if I had to. The audio on this movie is what uncompressed is all about. Also If you pick it up at best buy they give you a really cool lithograph with a cardboard frame that has "the incredible hulk" embossed in gold. Not to mention all the extras, digital copy and BDlive. Well worth it's price of twenty seven bucks.

Brad, take this for what it is worth. I have a movie night every Tuesday night and the same guys come over. They all have watched WOTW, Cloverfield, Transformers, Iron man, LOTR(all of them), etc... After watching The Incredible Hulk they were all smiles and said it was awesome. I bought it for $26 on bluray, worth it to me. I enjoyed the movie as well. The Incredible Hulk was always one of my favorites as a kid and they did it right this time.


Well as long as the movie is good I don't mind it. After the last HULK with Eric Banana I wanted to cry. I loved the Hulk as a kid with big LOU and the first Hulk was horrible.

I just hope this one is better and does the hulk more justice!

Sorry i dont have matrix films anymore(reloaded was loaned from public library), but if i find revolutions and matrix there...then why not. :cool:

Thanks. That would be great. I think there is some good stuff in that one.

Well as long as the movie is good I don't mind it. After the last HULK with Eric Banana I wanted to cry. I loved the Hulk as a kid with big LOU and the first Hulk was horrible.

I just hope this one is better and does the hulk more justice!

This one is much better than the first, in all aspects.

I'd definitely pay 34.99 for it if I had to. The audio on this movie is what uncompressed is all about. Also If you pick it up at best buy they give you a really cool lithograph with a cardboard frame that has "the incredible hulk" embossed in gold. Not to mention all the extras, digital copy and BDlive. Well worth it's price of twenty seven bucks.

Incase ya'll do not browse the blu-ray special buys section if you go to the Magnolia section at a bestbuy and take a demo (takes like 5 minutes), ask them for the $10 coupon off a blu-ray (Expires 11/1). I did this and picked up incredible hulk for $16.99.

Now that I watched it I must say it has the best audio I have heard in a movie. Every footstep in the final battle felt like they were running through my house. It was awesome!

This one is much better than the first, in all aspects.

Agreed! Bring on Hulk 3.:D

The Hulk delivers stunning BASS. I was so excited by it that I broke down and registered after a year or so of lurking just to share in the enthusiasm. hoo ra

Incidentally, my PS3 hooked to a Rotel 1068 only provides vanilla DTS. If DTS MA sounds better than what I heard last night, I would've been soaked in drool by the end of the movie.

The Hulk delivers stunning BASS. I was so excited by it that I broke down and registered after a year or so of lurking just to share in the enthusiasm. hoo ra

Incidentally, my PS3 hooked to a Rotel 1068 only provides vanilla DTS. If DTS MA sounds better than what I heard last night, I would've been soaked in drool by the end of the movie.

From what I hear depending upon the movie the experience may only be 5-10% better. Any improvement is nice, but if you have other areas where you can upgrade your sound (better speakers most notably) you'll end up getting more sound for your dollar than adding new electronics in the same quality category as your Rotel.

My 2 cents of course.

I need to go buy this movie everyone keeps talking about :D

What makes The Incredible Hulk great is that the bass is in all the right places. Gun shots hit you in the chest, big foot stomps will be felt, etc.... There are subtle bass scenes and very loud ones. Just makes for a great and exciting experience. You almost leave the room sweating. As you can tell I liked the Movie alot.

What makes The Incredible Hulk great is that the bass is in all the right places

yup :cool:

What makes The Incredible Hulk great is that the bass is in all the right places.

That's good to hear. I hate it when you are watching a big action flick and you see these scenes that should have bass but don't. Always feels way off in those cases. Revenge of the Sith comes to mind as does a few others.

Guess I should look into getting this one. ;)

Any last words...HULK SMASH 5 STARS.:eek:

BASS Movie of the Week/Month:

Week of October 21, 2008

The Incredible Hulk (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800080/)

Universal
113 minutes
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8971063#post8971063

DrPainMD,
Have you scene the Incredible Hulk and if so what did you think? Good and obvious choice for the bass movie of the week.

Be on a lookout for "Meet Dave" DVD.
About 13 minutes into the movie the bass is earthshaking! It shattered a light bulb in my room! :eek: This is the scene when he tries to adjust the pitch of his voice.

DrPainMD,
Have you scene the Incredible Hulk and if so what did you think? Good and obvious choice for the bass movie of the week.

No I have not seen it yet, but its a definite rental :p

....probably Halloween weekend ill watch it

oops

Ocean's Thirteen has been on HBO in Dolby Digital lately

there are 2 scenes where there's this device used under the casino to shake the whole building to make people think there's an earthquake

pretty cool bass scene

also in the same movie, when the helicopter takes off with part of the casino roof does some room shaking

ok, now back to Hulk :)

I checked some scenes from ang lee hulk and bass is there, maybe even better than ih.:eek:;)

Guess I should look into getting this one. ;)

With those numbers in your sig im surprised you haven't:eek:

With those numbers in your sig im surprised you haven't:eek:

:D Heheh. Sure would but I haven't been spending money on BD's as of recently. Saving up for a new amp and room treatments that I so need. :p

I just got the hulk today and wanted to give it a preview listen before waching the whole thing tomorrow. all i have to say is wow! what the hell did they use to mix this soundtrack, hotsauce?i knew from the opening scene i was in for something special. i went to the next chapter where the army guys are looking for him and he first transforms, i couldn't believe what i was hearing.... dynamics:eek:LFE :eek:surround sound:eek: i heard every bullet wiz by me in a 360 degree sound field. if my sub could talk it would ask me what kind of frequencies are you sending me, please stop. this track is HOT! i never thought any movie would replace cloverfield as my number 1 audio blu-ray but the hulk is it. this DTS soundtrack makes transformers sound like a school play. and its not just the LFE thats sounds good, the dialog is crisp and clear also. this is a very good soundtrack, demo material of the year, have i said enough?scott you need to get somebody to buy this movie for you, your system will thank you in the end......or hate you :D

Speed Racer Blu-Ray Dolby Digital 5.1

Chap 1 00:02:15
Chap 2 00:05:00
Chap 2 00:06:44
Chap 2 00:07:34
Chap 2 00:08:05
Chap 2 00:08:21
Chap 3 00:11:13
Chap 3 00:14:44
Chap 4 00:15:49
Chap 5 00:19:02
Chap 8 00:34:00
Chap 11 00:48:22
Chap 12 00:49:02
Chap 12 00:49:43
Chap 16 01:09:02
Chap 16 01:09:32
Chap 17 01:10:39
Chap 17 01:10:45
Chap 17 01:11:32
Chap 17 01:12:00
Chap 19 01:19:36
Chap 19 01:21:13
Chap 22 01:32:13
Chap 25 01:48:04
Chap 26 01:52:20 till the end of the movie

The last time stamp is the final race of the movie and the entire thing is filled with bass, about 25 minutes worth.

Enjoy

Thanks Kevin12586 for the Speed Racer timestamps.

Surprised you did'nt get Hulk.

can we get some waterfalls for the Hulk?? i cant wait to watch this on blu...or green or whatever it is!!

can we get some waterfalls for the Hulk?? i cant wait to watch this on blu...or green or whatever it is!!

I'll be renting it next weekend and making some 'falls , so until then if anyone else comes up with them... please post them.

I just got done watching the Hulk and there is some intense low bass! A few scenes that really seemed low were when Banner transforms into the Hulk on the enclosed bridge and his hand hits the window. There was a good low pulse there. The scene right when they first turn on the sonic guns was really intense and shook the room (this is the one I want to see a waterfall for. I'm guessing loud <16hz content). When the helicopter crashes was good and there were various parts during the end battle. I liked the movie and thought the sound in it was great.

I have to agree. The Incredible Hulk really has some very good bass. I was impressed with the output here. You can really shake the room with this one. All of the scenes that everyone else pointed out certainly do rock. A keeper for sure with good repeat watching potential.

Picked up Sleepy Hallow and Incredible Hulk yesterday. I will give Hulk a viewing soon sometime this week. Hopefully really nice sounding on my subs.

Scott,
Wait till the part when they turn on the sonic guns against Hulk:eek:! Since our sw's have similar capabilities, I know it's going to rock for you.

Scott,
Wait till the part when they turn on the sonic guns against Hulk:eek:! Since our sw's have similar capabilities, I know it's going to rock for you.

Oh yeah? Okay, I will definitely prepare myself for that part. Guess I'll have to watch that tonight then. :D Thanks for the heads up, Ricci!

Now I am even more curious for some bass plots for Hulk. :)

I just watch a movie called Dark Floors and it had very strong bass throughout, kind of reminded me of Cloverfield in a way.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0985025/

The sonic guns are very cool. Even the subtle bass effects like the tranquilizer guns creating that thump in the chest are great.

Thanks Kevin12586 for the Speed Racer timestamps.

Surprised you did'nt get Hulk.

I am renting it first before I buy it. It is at the top of my Netflix list but I have been unlucky so far. Maybe this week I will get lucky, based on the reviews here in this thread I can't wait :D

I hate to admit this, but I just watched Journey to the Center of the Earth, and it has a tremendous amount of bass sustained for long periods of time. It is a definite watch, if you can stand watching Brendan Frasier.

Blu-ray Edward Scissorhands sounds cool. Especially for those here that like music. Danny Elfman...need I say more.

Watched "The Incredible Hulk" on Blu-Ray.

While I agree it has great bass, and numerous scenes with Bass on top of the quality.

I think it still falls short of WOW, and Cloverfield in "Rattle the house down Bass". Although it does have more quantity of bass scenes than both.

But it is definitely on my short list of great bass (sound in general) movies.

Next bass movie to watch for is Hellboy II. There are some very decent bass scenes especially during the the conflict near the end. It is nowhere as impressive as Iron Man, however. Should be out on DVD and Blu-Ray on November 11.

I wonder if Wall-E is going to have some good bass. Has anyone seen it in the theater or have it early on Blu-ray yet?

Can someone with the Cloverfield BLU RAY get a waterfall for this scene?
It is where they turn the corner and the monster pops out and they start shooting the crap out of it before going into the subway.

Chap 8 (0:34:57 - 0:36:25)

PS...I just rewatched Cloverfield in TRUEHD since I vastly upgraded my system since my first viewing.

First viewing was with SBS mains and SCS Center with 2 generic surrounds and a PC 16-46+ in TRUE HD.

This viewing was with SCS mains and center and SBS surrounds and a single back surround (generic) with a PB-13ULTRA.

Might I say HOLY **** what a difference. Besides the bass being unreal the overall sound experience with an all SCS front was great...but also the MATCHING SBS surrounds really added something more to the track...just sounded amazing. :)

this thread is great! a whole long list of movies i need to rent and try out. :)

I wonder if Wall-E is going to have some good bass. Has anyone seen it in the theater or have it early on Blu-ray yet?

I saw Wall-E in the theaters. I don't remember there being a lot of bass throughout the movies, but what was there was intense. The scenes that comes to mind the most are where the transport ship carrying EVE lands on Earth. The thrusters were pretty deep and covered a broad bass spectrum. Sadly, my local theater sucks for sound so the movie is probably better than I recall for bass.

Journy to the Center of the Earth did not have alot of bass scenes but had a couple of good ones. The T-rex scene is great.

Did you go for the 3D version?

Yes I did. Everyone thought it was cool including myself. Not so much the stuff coming out of the screen but just the overall appearance looked like it was real. The airplane cabin just looked real. Sometimes scenes can get out of focus but overall pretty cool.

I am going to get that one as well. I did not see it in 3D in the theater so I am curious.

I've asked this before, but only got about 5 movies so I'll ask the question again.

What's your "Top 10 Horror Movies with Bass" ?

:cool:

I can't remember how much bass but 2 movies that made people jump were Exorcism of Emily Rose and The Descent.

Out of the three Terminator movies which one has the best and the most bass? Will it be 1,2 or 3?

Out of the three Terminator movies which one has the best and the most bass? Will it be 1,2 or 3?

i like watching the 3rd one in surround sound. i don't have the 2nd one on dvd though to compare.

i like watching the 3rd one in surround sound. i don't have the 2nd one on dvd though to compare.

Does the third have the scene with the semi truck down the street? This scene had really good bass. Just dont remember if it was 2 or 3?

Does the third have the scene with the semi truck down the street? This scene had really good bass. Just dont remember if it was 2 or 3?

You mean that crane scene, that scene was in third one, but first and second are good with bass too.;)

You mean that crane scene, that scene was in third one, but first and second are good with bass too.;)

that crane scene is sick! i need to watch that with my new sub. i know it is a very loud scene in general, i've watched it a few time w/o a sub..

Can someone with the Cloverfield BLU RAY get a waterfall for this scene?
It is where they turn the corner and the monster pops out and they start shooting the crap out of it before going into the subway.

Chap 8 (0:34:57 - 0:36:25)

PS...I just rewatched Cloverfield in TRUEHD since I vastly upgraded my system since my first viewing.

First viewing was with SBS mains and SCS Center with 2 generic surrounds and a PC 16-46+ in TRUE HD.

This viewing was with SCS mains and center and SBS surrounds and a single back surround (generic) with a PB-13ULTRA.

Might I say HOLY **** what a difference. Besides the bass being unreal the overall sound experience with an all SCS front was great...but also the MATCHING SBS surrounds really added something more to the track...just sounded amazing. :)


Anyone willing to do this scene for me?

Anyone willing to do this scene for me?

If dvd version waterfalls are ok... i can do that and some others. Just finished some hulk charts(not ih), but still more to go. phew:)

Just finished watching The Incredible Hulk! Awesome LFE. It was great with the dual Ultras!

T3 may not have the lowest bass, but for me it certainly has some of the loudest. Pleanty of spots. When the POV comes out of the water wiith the big ship near the start, the entire crane scene. That little flying robot. Yep, pleanty of loud bass to choose from. Journy was pretty good. I agree with MK. Bass was good but not over
the top and the 3D was nice. It made it look cool, but nothing really "jumped" out at you. Still, I will watch it again in 3D.

LFE man I'm sure the reg dvd waterfall for that scene won't be all the different so I'd love to see it.
Thanks

T3 may not have the lowest bass, but for me it certainly has some of the loudest. Pleanty of spots. When the POV comes out of the water wiith the big ship near the start, the entire crane scene. That little flying robot. Yep, pleanty of loud bass to choose from.

i just watched it last night, pretty quietly though. about 18-20 under reference level. but yes there is a lot of bass and just a lot of noise in general. very loud movie. the crane scene is SICK! i need to watch it again next time the house is empty.

the 1st Underworld is one of my all time favorites too. and Kate's so hot!

LFE man I'm sure the reg dvd waterfall for that scene won't be all the different so I'd love to see it.
Thanks

Ok, i try to put them here tomorrow.

Doom should be added to the list of movies with great bass. There are some explosions and LFE effects that are awesome in that movie. Movie is horrible but sound is great.

Doom should be added to the list of movies with great bass. There are some explosions and LFE effects that are awesome in that movie. Movie is horrible but sound is great.

Yup, its pretty intensive in the beginning when that universal logo show up and later that zoom to the planet. Maybe i put some waterfalls here someday from it.

Does any think it strange that a major motion picture, like the Hulk, would have such a strong tie to another motion picture, Iron Man? I have never seen anything like it in motion picture history? Has anyone else ever seen this between films before?

Does any think it strange that a major motion picture, like the Hulk, would have such a strong tie to another motion picture, Iron Man? I have never seen anything like it in motion picture history? Has anyone else ever seen this between films before?

If you watched the clip at the end of Iron Man (after the credits) it shows Samuel L jackson approching Tony Stark about joing a special team. The Hulk and two others join that team also. They become a group that work together. So they are setting that up.

Does any think it strange that a major motion picture, like the Hulk, would have such a strong tie to another motion picture, Iron Man? I have never seen anything like it in motion picture history? Has anyone else ever seen this between films before?

They're building up to an Avengers movie that will star Iron Man, The Hulk, Thor and Captain America. Supposed to come out in 2010 or 2011.

They're building up to an Avengers movie that will star Iron Man, The Hulk, Thor and Captain America. Supposed to come out in 2010 or 2011.

Hulk is rumored to be the villain in the avenger movie.

Hulk is rumored to be the villain in the avenger movie.

I also read that Robert Downey, Jr. is already signed on to do 2 more stand-alone Iron Man films, so the Hulk may also make appearances in one of them. Who knows?

Robert Downey has agreed to play Iron Man in the Avengers movie. Also, with Marvel now taking control of their movies, it is about damn time we get more Marvel characters in one movie.

Most Marvel movies take place in NYC so it only makes sense to have multiple Marvel characters in one movie, even if it is just a cameo.

Robert Downey has agreed to play Iron Man in the Avengers movie.

And 2 more Iron Man movies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/29/robert-downey-jr-signs-on_n_138801.html

I watched a Netflix DVD of IDJ : Kingdom of the crystal skull last night. It was ok. The movie was decent with plenty of over the top action but kind of hokey overall. There were a few good bass parts but nothing that really hit me as a demo quality part. Didn't seem to be anything very low at hot levels. There were plenty of loud explosions. It didn't compare to the Hulk which was the last movie I had watched. I did watch it at a bit lower level than usual though so maybe that had something to do with it.

I agree about IDJ except I use the THX into as a demo.

Here is what bgillyjcu asked and then some more.:)

Chap 1 (0:00:17 - 0:00:43)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap100017-00043.jpg

Chap 4 (0:18:19)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap401819.jpg

Chap 8 (0:34:57 - 0:36:25)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap803457-03625.jpg

Chap 9 metro station
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap9metrostation.jpg

Chap14 (1:01:41-1:03:10)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap1410141-10310.jpg

Chap 14 (1:03:48 - 1:04:30)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap1410348-10430.jpg

Chap 14 (1:05:07 - 1:05:20)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap1410507-10520.jpg

Chap 15 (1:08:41 - 1:09:37)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap1510841-10937.jpg

Chap 15 (1:12:00 - 1:13:11)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap1511200-11311.jpg

Btw, how those chapter1 stomps sound in bluray, do they grow like small to bigger??:cool:

Thanks for the charts.

WOW those look really hot...was that the LFE channel only or is that ALL the channels playing??

The Steps in BluRay get bigger and louder until the last big one which is pretty powerful.

(To compare your settings vs the settings used on the original waterfall settings can do you a couple repeats of ones that were done so we can compare.
To me it looks like your settings might be different because there is just soooooo much red on your plots. They look extra hot.)


Ask the DR. What he uses for his settings...i'm sure he will share :)

is cloverfield a good movie though? i heard it was dumb.

is cloverfield a good movie though? i heard it was dumb.

I thought it was decent. If you don't mind the Handicam point of view, it's like a modern day Godzilla flick.

Awesome Bass! Up there with War of the Worlds.

I thought it was decent. If you don't mind the Handicam point of view, it's like a modern day Godzilla flick.

Awesome Bass! Up there with War of the Worlds.

i guess i should at least rent it and try it out.

is cloverfield a good movie though? i heard it was dumb.

I haven't seen it, but my sister had to leave the theater to throw up, cuz the way it's filmed made her motion sick. Heard that happened to quite a few people.

I haven't seen it, but my sister had to leave the theater to throw up, cuz the way it's filmed made her motion sick. Heard that happened to quite a few people.

quite a few people get like that. if the sound is as good as everybody says then i guess it's worth at least renting and checking out. i'll have to make a trip to blockbuster and rent this and the incredible hulk.

Thanks for the waterfalls for Cloverfield lfeman. I added them to the list.

Thanks for the charts.

WOW those look really hot...was that the LFE channel only or is that ALL the channels playing??

The Steps in BluRay get bigger and louder until the last big one which is pretty powerful.

(To compare your settings vs the settings used on the original waterfall settings can do you a couple repeats of ones that were done so we can compare.
To me it looks like your settings might be different because there is just soooooo much red on your plots. They look extra hot.)


Ask the DR. What he uses for his settings...i'm sure he will share :)


These are the settings I use:

* croseiv's SpecLab (V2.70 b20) Settings 1 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13937451&postcount=1562) / croseiv's SpecLab Settings 2 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13937460&postcount=1563) / croseiv's SpecLab Settings 3 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13937473&postcount=1564)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/3001944033_111f8e7197_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/3002826570_ddb029923e_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/3002826592_8f0239abb3_o.jpg

Hope this helps.

AVIA DVD

From the main menu goto the Advanced Menu then Subwoofer Setup

Chapter 7 - Calibrations

SubWoofer Level, LF/C/RF/LS/RS

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3151/3002861568_742f90f641_o.jpg



SubWoofer Phase Warble, LF/C/RF/LS/RS

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3221/3002054159_8b98c3c3d5_o.jpg

Here is what bgillyjcu asked and then some more.:)

Chap 1 (0:00:17 - 0:00:43)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap100017-00043.jpg

Chap 4 (0:18:19)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap401819.jpg

Chap 8 (0:34:57 - 0:36:25)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap803457-03625.jpg

Chap 9 metro station
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap9metrostation.jpg

Chap14 (1:01:41-1:03:10)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap1410141-10310.jpg

Chap 14 (1:03:48 - 1:04:30)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap1410348-10430.jpg

Chap 14 (1:05:07 - 1:05:20)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap1410507-10520.jpg

Chap 15 (1:08:41 - 1:09:37)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap1510841-10937.jpg

Chap 15 (1:12:00 - 1:13:11)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/cloverfieldchap1511200-11311.jpg

Btw, how those chapter1 stomps sound in bluray, do they grow like small to bigger??:cool:

:eek::eek::eek:
cloverfield remains the number one audio soundtrack, i named the hulk number 1 after i saw it. but i think i got a little carried away, cloverfield has yet to be topped, that movie just sounds amazing.

AVIA DVD

From the main menu goto the Advanced Menu then Subwoofer Setup

Chapter 7 - Calibrations

SubWoofer Level, LF/C/RF/LS/RS

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3151/3002861568_742f90f641_o.jpg



thanks for that pain. that is a very useful feature in avia for those of use using a sub on each channel. makes it very easy to set the level of the sub on each channel separately

Has anybody got waterfalls of the Hulk yet? I'm interested in the sonic cannon scene mostly. I've been unable to get Spectrum Labs working properly so far:o.

Has anybody got waterfalls of the Hulk yet? I'm interested in the sonic cannon scene mostly. I've been unable to get Spectrum Labs working properly so far:o.

I'm guessing single digit or low teens Hz in that scene.

My SVS PC12Ultra-with MBM-12 bottoms out during that scene if I run it with Audyessy and Dynamic EQ at -20 on my Denon. That's with subs calibrated even with my mains at 75dbs and no boost.

Yeah it's a doozey. I'm guessing sustained high level 9-16hz stuff. Just a guess, but I do know that when I watched the movie at -5db with the sw set 3db hot it was very impressive. Like freaked out some friends who don't know impressive;). Heck it kind of caught me off guard.

Should sound awesome on my Acoustimass! :D

*HULK SMASH!*

Lolz. :p

Damn new Xbox games have kept me from watching Hulk. Gotta watch out for that action sequence. Also hope the helicopter crash sounds as good as it did in theaters.

Thanks for the charts.

WOW those look really hot...was that the LFE channel only or is that ALL the channels playing??

The Steps in BluRay get bigger and louder until the last big one which is pretty powerful.

(To compare your settings vs the settings used on the original waterfall settings can do you a couple repeats of ones that were done so we can compare.
To me it looks like your settings might be different because there is just soooooo much red on your plots. They look extra hot.)


Ask the DR. What he uses for his settings...i'm sure he will share :)

Yup, there is all channels and they are taken to receiver sub out to comp audio in with high sound level. That way they are so reddish and i use speclabs decimate imput by (divisor) number 8 setting too...ouch, i just tested that and if i change decimate imput to somelike 16 its just lame, all pink is gone and red is not that red anymore. Very strange,oh well...:confused:

Yup, there is all channels and they are taken to receiver sub out to comp audio in with high sound level. That way they are so reddish and i use speclabs decimate imput by (divisor) number 8 setting too...ouch, i just tested that and if i change decimate imput to somelike 16 its just lame, all pink is gone and red is not that red anymore. Very strange,oh well...:confused:


Actually that is good!! If everyone is using the same settings then we can acurrately compare movies to each other.

No sense in making it look hotter than it really is. Pink and really red should only be scene in the HOTTEST of scenes....lighter red is still pretty powerful and so is yellow!

ps...LFEMAN I know you don't just sit around doing this kinda stuff (even though it is fun) But if you have spare time run those scenes again with the new settings and see how they compare to the first time you did it. I would love to compare them both! :D

No sense in making it look hotter than it really is. Pink and really red should only be scene in the HOTTEST of scenes....lighter red is still pretty powerful and so is yellow!



That's what I did with my color setting back when I was still doing these. I didn't see the point in having more colors after pink or white. Obviously anything red should be very powerful stuff with the pink reserved for the loudest parts. Yellow should be strong but not as powerful as red. Green should be noticable but not very strong.

That's how I feel anyway.

Keep up the great work guys!

BGILLYJCU OFFICIAL HULK BLURAY REVIEW:

This movie in DTS-MA offers one of the most amazing tracks I have ever heard.

The LFE, the surrounds, the mains...everything was stunning and clear and perfect!


I am willing to bet my last $ that the sonic blast when they shoot HULK in the grassy field is somewhere centered around 15hz...maybe even towards 12hz.

Just LOW and powerful. The FIRST time I have heard my PB-13 CHUFF. (I stopped the movie and played it back without the grill and the chuff went mostly away.) BUT that just shows you how much LOW end energy that note has!

I would rank this movie OVERALLn (meaning total sound not just the LFE) above most (if you heard the DTS-MA track).

The LFE of the movie is as close to a 5 star movie as you will get.

If you do not own this yet...the movie is actually GOOD too. I am a hulk age fan, (the original of course with LOU) and this movie does a fantastic job in 2008 terms. I would say sonically this is a buyer no doubt, but honest even if you have a mid or lower end system this movie is worth the purchase!

I cannot wait to see waterfalls...>Dr.....(hint hint)

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/HPO/Sunshine.jpg

The DTS MA track on this one is constant low bass.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/HPO/Sunshine.jpg

The DTS MA track on this one is constant low bass.

i netflix'd that a few weeks ago. the dvd had great bass also in dolby digital

bass everywhere from start to finish

i netflix'd that a few weeks ago. the dvd had great bass also in dolby digital

bass everywhere from start to finish

Great movie too!

Going to netflix it now..>Thanks boys!

Just got a new Sony BDP-S550 woot! Been watching Eragon BD (DTS-MA). Holy crap! Awsome sound! Awesome picture. The bass in that movie is VERY under rated. With DTS-MA it is literally stunning.

Going to netflix it now..>Thanks boys!

Be ready when you watch sunshine.;)

chap1 our sun is dying
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/sunshinechap1oursunisdying.jpg

chap1 four prosent irreversible damage
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/sunshinechap1fourprosentirreversibl.jpg

chap 8-9 detonation beyond all imagining
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/sunshinechap8-9detonationbeyondalli.jpg

Sorry bgillyjcu, i dont have any interest to make cloverfield charts anymore, its just worn out to me now.:D

Be ready when you watch sunshine.;)

chap1 our sun is dying
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/sunshinechap1oursunisdying.jpg

chap1 four prosent irreversible damage
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/sunshinechap1fourprosentirreversibl.jpg

chap 8-9 detonation beyond all imagining
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/sunshinechap8-9detonationbeyondalli.jpg

Sorry bgillyjcu, i dont have any interest to make cloverfield charts anymore, its just worn out to me now.:D

wow, that's rotary sub material right there :eek:

Gotta love 'Sunshine'.

Great movie! +1

:)

Nah, Just wait until you guys hear Kung Fu panda. It sounds crazy good in 24 bit Dolby True HD. Even AVS reviewer Ralph Potts gave it a perfect score.

Nah, Just wait until you guys hear Kung Fu panda. It sounds crazy good in 24 bit Dolby True HD. Even AVS reviewer Ralph Potts gave it a perfect score.

I knew this was a good bass movie when I saw at the theater.

Near the end of Kung Fu Panda. I hit about 124db. Louuuuud.

http://xs233.xs.to/xs233/08450/kfp1360.jpg

Near the end of Kung Fu Panda. I hit about 124db. Louuuuud.

http://xs233.xs.to/xs233/08450/kfp1360.jpg


If i'm reading that chart correctly, it looks like the hottest bass is centered right at 25hz, correct?

Picked up my copy of Kung Fu Panda on blu-ray today! Lookin' forward to watching it later today. THe price was only 5 bucks more than the SD DVD to boot!.

wow!! thats some serious energy lol! looks like the FOTP spin lol :) ill have to check this one out

Yep that is one HOT 25hz pulse....Should be impressive if your sub has headroom in that area...but be CAREFUL not to bottom your sub. Something like that can easily bottom most subs!

CALLING ALL WATERFALL FRIENDS. I am just dying for HULK. :D

My Ultra's handled the "pulse" at the end of Kung Fu Panda effortlessly (3dB above my normal reference).

Great movie! I really like what blu-ray has to offer.

I must say I do love your stacked Ultras.

I just moved KFP up to #1 on netflix. I mean 100 out of 100 makes that the must see flix of the week!

(still praying to see HULK waterfalls soon) :D

Just watched KFP Saturday night. That scene was awesome. Both dogs ran and hid under the bed. It shook the room (which is approx. 10,000 cubic feet).
I had to go back and play it 3 times.

CALLING ALL WATERFALL FRIENDS. I am just dying for HULK. :D

Yeah, me too. I just tried watching this on my Sony S300 this weekend and the player reboots everytime the movie starts. Even tried skipping the first chapter from the menu. Guess I'll have to wait til I get my S550. :(

CALLING ALL WATERFALL FRIENDS. I am just dying for HULK. :D

Hopefully this coming weekend I'll get some, been busy, sorry.

Thanks Dr. I just can't wait to see what those sonic blasts actually are. I predict somewhere around 15hz.

I watched KFP last night as well and thought it was good. Not quite Incredibles bass but the overall sound was nice. Like everyone's been saying the end fight has a good bass pulse. The other spot that I remember having a good bass nugget was near the beginning when they are doing the Dragon Warrior choosing ceremony and there is a burst of fireworks. nothing real low just hot.

Ricci-

what is your sub setup?

There are strong bass wallops throughout the movie. They saved the max bass SPL for the blast at the end.

E.g at the very start of the movie when panda is dreaming, the baddie slams his fist on the table and that is a big boom. If you aren't getting that then your setup is not reproducing it fully.

http://xs233.xs.to/xs233/08461/kfp2125.jpg

Hopefully this coming weekend I'll get some, been busy, sorry.

Remember to take all channels to those charts.;):)

Ricci-

what is your sub setup?

There are strong bass wallops throughout the movie. They saved the max bass SPL for the blast at the end.

E.g at the very start of the movie when panda is dreaming, the baddie slams his fist on the table and that is a big boom. If you aren't getting that then your setup is not reproducing it fully.

http://xs233.xs.to/xs233/08461/kfp2125.jpg

Don't worry man I'm getting it all. I've got 115-120db of output down to about 8 or 9hz. :) I'm only noting the parts that seem impressive. Like a cut above your normal just loud bass parts that are in most movies. I was kind of in and out of the room while I watched it and didn't really get the very beginning of the movie.

Remember to take all channels to those charts.;):)



I disagree. I would ONLY do LFE. That is what we want to see. Even with bass management...the LFE channel is the one where the MAJOR bass is.

Does every one else agree?

http://xs233.xs.to/xs233/08461/kfp3939.jpg

Some intensity is lost with the LFE discarded. Still lots of bass in the main channels.

I disagree. I would ONLY do LFE. That is what we want to see. Even with bass management...the LFE channel is the one where the MAJOR bass is.

Does every one else agree?

nope. i'd like to see what the surround channels have out of curiosity :)

I disagree. I would ONLY do LFE. That is what we want to see. Even with bass management...the LFE channel is the one where the MAJOR bass is.

Does every one else agree?

Not exactly. I do agree that I would like to see a separate graph when appropriate but most bass does not always reside in the LFE. Every movie is mixed differently by different people. It just throws out lots of potential bass to be graphed if you only did the LFE channel. Take a long look at the Revenge of the Sith graphs. One in particular was silent in the LFE but in the center (or whatever the channel was...) there was tons of bass from 10hz and up. Wouldn't have even known that was there if we just plotted the LFE channel.

For these reasons I was doing plots with the whole mix included.

Plus, almost everybody uses bass management at home so it's nice to see what the subwoofer actually sees.

ahh....true.

I guess just sum all the channels since most of us (if not all) are using bass management. I know my sub gets everything below 80hz...all other speakers get 80hz and above...

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Bass freaks will be happy with the Hellboy 2 Blu Ray disc :)

The 7.1 mix is something else. The bass is incredible.

Kung fu panda...excellent lfe...a must have BD. You won't be dissapointed!

Watch for "The Dark Knight" to be released on DVD on Dec. 9. I had a little "preview" at home this morning.:) This will be another great bass movie to get excited about.

Quick reminder now that Hellboy 2 is out. (haven't listened to it yet but I got it),

Hellboy 1, also had a ton of LFE as well.

Kung fu panda...excellent lfe...a must have BD. You won't be dissapointed!

No kidding--very satisfying. Much more mid-bass than I expected. BD is really fantastic.

Seems to have some above 80hz in the LFE on the escape scene, like Iron Man when his thrusters sputter near the end. If your sub isn't located near your mains (and your LPF set isn't set at 80-90hz), you'll know just where it is when that part hits!

So has anyone charted Tai Lung's bridge collapse/escape sequence from KFP?

Easily the best `kid' CG movie since `The Incredibles' IMHO..very entertaining!

Watch for "The Dark Knight" to be released on DVD on Dec. 9. I had a little "preview" at home this morning. This will be another great bass movie to get excited about.

I could get access to some early w'falls on DK but the guy won't unpack his Taiwan version ... :(

So has anyone charted Tai Lung's bridge collapse/escape sequence from KFP?

Easily the best `kid' CG movie since `The Incredibles' IMHO..very entertaining!


+1. I'd love to know where that bridge collapse hits. Also, the finger "skidush" at the end is really something...

Loads of fun, and amazing SQ and PQ.

Me Still want HULK Waterfalls! :D

Me Still want HULK Waterfalls! :D

arrrggg

Just finished a second watching of Kung Fu Panda (BD-True HD). The Skidoosh scene is INSANE!!!! It pressurized my whole living room and shook the whole house. Wow!

Hey guys. I've watched kung fu panda about twice now. I dont know if there's an issue with my subwoofer setup but, that kadoosh scene at the end doesnt seem to be very impressive for me on the low end. I first heard that scene at around -10 db from reference, and the 2nd time i put it on reference. it didnt blow me away. I find that the transformer scene where one of them does a front flip, shoots the floor with his guns, to flip back upwards was more impressive. That scene really shook the house and was nice and low. I'm running an older velodyne f1500 sub. i only had one input plugged in to the left, would that be the issue?

Hey guys. I've watched kung fu panda about twice now. I dont know if there's an issue with my subwoofer setup but, that kadoosh scene at the end doesnt seem to be very impressive for me on the low end. I first heard that scene at around -10 db from reference, and the 2nd time i put it on reference. it didnt blow me away. I find that the transformer scene where one of them does a front flip, shoots the floor with his guns, to flip back upwards was more impressive. That scene really shook the house and was nice and low. I'm running an older velodyne f1500 sub. i only had one input plugged in to the left, would that be the issue?

How does your sub handle 25 Hz? That's where the energy is concentrated in that scene. The LFE in the transformers is a bit higher than 25 (I think 35 Hz and up).

Hey guys. I've watched kung fu panda about twice now. I dont know if there's an issue with my subwoofer setup but, that kadoosh scene at the end doesnt seem to be very impressive for me on the low end. I first heard that scene at around -10 db from reference, and the 2nd time i put it on reference. it didnt blow me away. I find that the transformer scene where one of them does a front flip, shoots the floor with his guns, to flip back upwards was more impressive. That scene really shook the house and was nice and low. I'm running an older velodyne f1500 sub. i only had one input plugged in to the left, would that be the issue?


There is bass in that scene but maybe your just looking for too much because of reading many of these posts before hand? Kind of raised your expectations a bit too much.

I just got done watching Hellboy 1 and Kung fu Panda back to back on Thursday and While they both have great bass, Hellboy 1 easily blew it away. I went into Kung fu panda with to high expectations.

2 scenes really stood out, the Cave Collapse scene escape and the Skidoosh 25hz scene at the end. With alot of solid upper LFE scattered about.

There is bass in that scene but maybe your just looking for too much because of reading many of these posts before hand? Kind of raised your expectations a bit too much.




The bass is there. Sounded better and more powerful than I thought it would. A matter of opinion. The audio in KFP is simply outstanding. It will bring out weaknesses and strengths in the LFE department for sure. ;)

There is bass in that scene but maybe your just looking for too much because of reading many of these posts before hand? Kind of raised your expectations a bit too much.

I just got done watching Hellboy 1 and Kung fu Panda back to back on Thursday and While they both have great bass, Hellboy 1 easily blew it away. I went into Kung fu panda with to high expectations.

2 scenes really stood out, the Cave Collapse scene escape and the Skidoosh 25hz scene at the end. With alot of solid upper LFE scattered about.

I agree Hellboy 2 had much more bass. KFP had bass but not as much as Hellboy but the last scene in KFP was very good.:) I also went into KFP thinking it was another Cloverfield or The Incredible Hulk but it does not come close.

The bass is there. Sounded better and more powerful than I thought it would. A matter of opinion. The audio in KFP is simply outstanding. It will bring out weaknesses and strengths in the LFE department for sure. ;)

no doubt it's good, but I still wouldn't put it in the same league as the incredible Hulk, Cloverfield and Hellboy 2 (as for most recent LFE releases go).

The overall sound is excellent in KFP, but as for Deep LFE, only several scenes.
Even that last one hits at 25hz. which by no means is bad but it's not WOW lightening strike territory. Now that will test your subs out and see if they are for real.

I think everyone is getting excited for KFP because it has alot of upper LFE IMO, and most subs can handle that fairly well. It's also loud. That helps too.

If you have a sub that can go really deep, The 3 movies I mentioned make Kung Fu look like Bambi.

I agree Hellboy 2 had much more bass. KFP had bass but not as much as Hellboy but the last scene in KFP was very good.:) I also went into KFP thinking it was another Cloverfield or The Incredible Hulk but it does not come close.


agreed!!!

I think everyone is getting excited for KFP because it has alot of upper LFE IMO, and most subs can handle that fairly well. It's also loud. That helps too.

kinda like darla taps

that scene sounds great on a good pair of full-range speakers with no sub

I find that the transformer scene where one of them does a front flip, shoots the floor with his guns, to flip back upwards was more impressive. That scene really shook the house and was nice and low. I'm running an older velodyne f1500 sub. i only had one input plugged in to the left, would that be the issue?http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2245/1648969410_875721aa53_o.jpg it sounds `better' because it's a higher freq. sweep. More than likely your older sub's `sweet spot'..

no doubt it's good, but I still wouldn't put it in the same league as the incredible Hulk, Cloverfield and Hellboy 2 (as for most recent LFE releases go).

The overall sound is excellent in KFP, but as for Deep LFE, only several scenes.
Even that last one hits at 25hz. which by no means is bad but it's not WOW lightening strike territory. Now that will test your subs out and see if they are for real.

I think everyone is getting excited for KFP because it has alot of upper LFE IMO, and most subs can handle that fairly well. It's also loud. That helps too.

If you have a sub that can go really deep, The 3 movies I mentioned make Kung Fu look like Bambi.

agreed!!!


We all have opinions. But I'll say the scene in KFP pressurized my HT and shook the house like none other. Maybe your sub missed it?:)

We all have opinions. But I'll say the scene in KFP pressurized my HT and shook the house like none other. Maybe your sub missed it?:)

Nope, didn't miss it at all. Like I said before, that scene was good for bass in that particular movie, but wasn't the be all and end all some have made it out to be. Maybe it's boomy with your sub? ( I kid, knowing you have dual ultras)So you think it's even better than it really is? Very similar to the Transformers ironhide flip scene, which really didn't do it for me either.


maybe like Sbwille said that scene just happen to hit your subs sweet spot, mine just happens to be much lower.....:D:D:D J/K

Nope, didn't miss it at all. Like I said before, that scene was good for bass in that particular movie, but wasn't the be all and end all some have made it out to be. Maybe it's boomy with your sub? ( I kid, knowing you have dual ultras)So you think it's even better than it really is? Very similar to the Transformers ironhide flip scene, which really didn't do it for me either.


maybe like Sbwille said that scene just happen to hit your subs sweet spot, mine just happens to be much lower.....:D:D:D J/K

Come on lets get real now. The scene in KFP at the end of the movie was good but, I think the reason it was so good is because the rest of the movie lacked the real strong bass. Movies like WOW,Cloverfield,Ironman are some of the movies that should be used as reference material for bass. There has not been any movie that I have seen that could dethrone WOW for the strongest bass. Cloverfield definitely comes close but no cigar. This is just my opinion.:)

... There has not been any movie that I have seen that could dethrone WOW for the strongest bass. Cloverfield definitely comes close but no cigar. This is just my opinion.:)

I concur with that opinion. Very well said.

p.s., I am very interested in what Dark Knight is going to be like along these lines. I saw it in a very good theater, and I was very impressed.


Tim

I'm not by any means saying KFP has the strongest bass, just very strong bass and very well done with great articulation and impact. Cloverfield, on the other hand, has strong, but very droning, dull and boring bass, and the Hulk really didn't impress me that much. I guess it's about delivery. WOTW is simply a very hot DTS sound track which many consider poorly done.

Iron Man is great as well.

I'm not by any means saying KFP has the strongest bass, just very strong bass and very well done with great articulation and impact. Cloverfield, on the other hand, has strong, but very droning, dull and boring bass, and the Hulk really didn't impress me that much. I guess it's about delivery. WOTW is simply a very hot DTS sound track which many consider poorly done.

Iron Man is great as well.


For the last two days I have been working with Dr. Hsu on flattening my frequency on my subs. This has drastically improved the performance of Dual 3.3 turbos and dual MBM-12s. I have watched KFP three times since the improvement. The scene at the end is very strong and rattles the hell of my entire house. Its very nice when you get very strong surprising bass in a movie. This is what KFP captures in its audio mix and its got to be one of the best audio track on blu ray. As far as being a movie for demo of bass its not the best. Maybe the last scene is a good demo but thats about it.

...Cloverfield, on the other hand, has strong, but very droning...

Agreed as well.


Tim

Agreed as well.


Tim

Well we can all agree to agree then!:)

I just watched KFP again and I feel the same as Jedi. It's a fun movie with good SQ and overall audio. There are a few good bass scenes and the end skadoosh pulse is nice and loud. Just a good well balanced audio presentation.

I also just watched Pulse for the first time. Now that is some intense bass :D. Everybody talks about the hallway scene with the loud 16hz bass and it was cool, but I was much more impressed with the really low bass that is spattered all throughout the movie. Has any one ever noticed the low descending bass wave at the very end of the credits? This was way more impressive to me on my system than the hallway scene. Sounded like it went below 10hz.

Cloverfield, on the other hand, has strong, but very droning, dull and boring bass, and the Hulk really didn't impress me that much. I guess it's about delivery. WOTW is simply a very hot DTS sound track which many consider poorly done.
Iron Man is great as well.

What do you mean? i think cloverfield has yet to be beat.

And WOTW is another amazing track.

What do you mean? i think cloverfield has yet to be beat.

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Cloverfield=boom...boooooom....boom, booom. BOOOOOM, boooooooom boom boom booom. SCREAM...boom boom...:)

The only thing that was droning, dull and boring in Cloverfield was Hud.:)

The only thing that was droning, dull and boring in Cloverfield was Hud.:)

LOL I’m glad the Cloverfield monster ate him, then spat him out, obviously disagreed with the taste of Hud or what ever he ate at that lame party earlier.:D

LOL I’m glad the Cloverfield monster ate him, then spat him out, obviously disagreed with the taste of Hud or what ever he ate at that lame party earlier.:D

A spoiler code like this one would have been nice, since I have Cloverfield on my shelf, but have not had a chance to watch it yet :rolleyes:.

I also just watched Pulse for the first time. ... Everybody talks about the hallway scene with the loud 16hz
Time stamp please? 1:12:40 ?

"Pulse" (2006) HD-DVD DD+ TrueHD http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/5stars.gif
1. Chap 15 (1:10:47)
2. Chap 15 (1:11:03)
3. Chap 15 (1:11:58) 15-20 Hz PLAY @ OWN RISK! WaterFall (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfall%20SPL/Pulse_ch15_1-1.jpg)

Pulse

Yes, there is more bass than just that lab scene.

chap 1 (00:00:04)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/pulsechap100004.jpg

chap15 (01:15:09)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/pulsechap1511509.jpg

chap15 (01:17:06)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/pulsechap1511706.jpg

This is the scene what ricci mentioned

chap16 (01:27:46)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/pulsechap1612746.jpg

I agree Hellboy 2 had much more bass. KFP had bass but not as much as Hellboy but the last scene in KFP was very good.:) I also went into KFP thinking it was another Cloverfield or The Incredible Hulk but it does not come close.

You may be right bori, but in KFP, the mid bass was very articulate and tight...one of the reasons KFP was so good on the lfe front for me and IMO, it makes for a very good reference movie for sound.

I watched Cloverfiled on a normal tv with no sub and hated the movie and just can't seem to get myself to buy it to watch it again in my theater room. Hulk was excellent movie, both in the lfe front and story. Lots of lfe in that movie. Ironman was good, but I thought the lfe was good but by no means great, probably because I just got done watching Transformers. I left the room amazed after that flick.

Wondering how WAL-E and the other movie coming out on the 25th...Hancock.

Pulse

Yes, there is more bass than just that lab scene.

chap 1 (00:00:04)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/pulsechap100004.jpg

chap15 (01:15:09)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/pulsechap1511509.jpg

chap15 (01:17:06)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/pulsechap1511706.jpg

This is the scene what ricci mentioned

chap16 (01:27:46)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/lfeman/pulsechap1612746.jpg

Thx LFEman. Yep that Chapter 16 waterfall corresponds with what I felt! Ugly low stuff there:D.