well that's nice news. I hope that applies to the Logic3 too. I still haven't gotten totally clean codes for the Nyko so I'm using the Logic3. And I'm not buying the PS3IRX1 until mike cracks the PS button secret.

After updating to FW 2.01 it seems like the Nyko no longer has that 2 second delay anymore when first issuing commands. FYI. No more delay and no more "up arrow" bug.

I noticed the same thing.

Allright...
have to admit, i haven't read the entire thread, but i can't figure out how to search for what i want to know, i already have a sony dvd/hdd-recorder, my problem now is, what if i get this usb receiver, which as i understand already use sony dvd codes, will my remote for the sony conflict with this? or will controlling ps3 conflict with my dvd player?

Anyone?

My PS3IRX1 is in the mail. I have a sony hd hdd dvr. I'm hoping the dvr remote will control the PS3. But that doesn't answer your question. You basically have two dvd players, so there might be a problem. Maybe if you only turn one on...

well that's nice news. I hope that applies to the Logic3 too. I still haven't gotten totally clean codes for the Nyko so I'm using the Logic3. And I'm not buying the PS3IRX1 until mike cracks the PS button secret.
I would also get the PS3IRX1 immediately if the PS button is implemented...

Mike, perhaps if a sufficient number of individuals committed to purchasing if you could enable the PS3 button that might give you the added "incentive" (R&D $$$) to expedite the upgrade?
:D

I would also get the PS3IRX1 immediately if the PS button is implemented...

Mike, perhaps if a sufficient number of individuals committed to purchasing if you could enable the PS3 button that might give you the added "incentive" (R&D $$$) to expedite the upgrade?
:D

I feel certain I can implement the home key as soon as I know what USB transactions are required. It's not simple. I have analyzed two devices that implement the home key and the answer just wasn't there. However, my USB analyzer only works on a PC so I can't see what the PS3 is doing to the device to enable this function. I'm at the point where I need to lease a USB transaction sniffer. They are very high $$$.

^^ Well I did my part in helping to make that happen. I just ordered your unit as well.

Good luck in getting the PS button to work. That would make this unit phenomenal.

Cheers

^^ Well I did my part in helping to make that happen. I just ordered your unit as well.

Good luck in getting the PS button to work. That would make this unit phenomenal.

Cheers

ditto for me, both on the recent ordering and the wellwishing for a PS button
:D

KO

Yeah, 2.01 fixed the lag. I was getting ready to order a PS3IRX1. A PS button could definitely tip me that way, but now the Nyko is back to performing as expected for me.

I ordered the unit on Monday, I believe, and it was already here on Friday. And, the postage was actually what was charged! :D

In all seriousness, though, I grabbed my URC-6131, entered the JP1 codes for the remote, and in less than 15 minutes, I was zipping and zooming through the DVD player. Yeah, it's unfortunate that there's no power off right now, but for the most part, I can handle that.

Now I have to decide whether to keep the Bluetooth remote or not. I figure you never know when you might need it for the odd DVD...

Thanks for a great product!

I noticed now that with the playstation 3 remote control I can turn the playstation 3 on now. But what on the remote turns it off. Cant figure that out, which button.

I noticed now that with the playstation 3 remote control I can turn the playstation 3 on now. But what on the remote turns it off. Cant figure that out, which button.
IIRC, it's the same button... The PS button. It will give you the option to Turn off PS.

Just received the PS3IRX1 in the mail today.

Plugged it into one of the PS3 USB ports & it worked fine first time out. I have the PS3 inside a large wall unit behind a door closed.

My controller is a Harmony 890 IR/RF combo unit programmed for PS2 with an IR extender inside the wall unit.

The 890 transmits an RF signal which is converted to an IR signal by the extender then the PS3IRX1 does its thing when it gets the IR command.

Am very happy with the results

I think I may have gotten a bad PS3IRX1. No matter what I do I cannot get mine to work. Plugged it into my PS3, configured my logitech 880 remote to use PS2 commands, and disabled the 'stop and turn devices off, and I get nothing. It doesn't seem to work at all.

Any way I can test this device plugged into my PC?

I think I may have gotten a bad PS3IRX1. No matter what I do I cannot get mine to work. Plugged it into my PS3, configured my logitech 880 remote to use PS2 commands, and disabled the 'stop and turn devices off, and I get nothing. It doesn't seem to work at all.

Any way I can test this device plugged into my PC?

I have had one bad unit before. It was not programmed. Not sure how THAT happened. I'd be happy to send you another one. Just send me a message at Schmartz.com with your order number and send the other one back via snail mail.

In the meantime, try shining up the USB contacts.

For testing on a PC, just plug it in and them launch the game controller dialog on the control panel. After a short delay it should show up in the list. If so, the USB portion is working.

Then click on properties and a dialog will be displayed showing indicators for the buttons. Press bottons on your remote and see if the button press indicators light up. If so, the IR portion is working and your PS3IRX1 is fully functional.

Let's see... effortless setup, great customer service, super fast shipping, VERY nice aesthetic (basically looks like part of PS3), and the satisfaction of supporting a small operation/fellow AVS enthusiast....what more could you ask for? (well, besides that elusive PS home button? :p )

great job, Mike!

KO

OK. Cleaned the contacts, plugged it into my PC and nothing shows up, so I will e-mail you the info and send it back via snail mail.

Thanks for the quick response over the holiday!

I feel certain I can implement the home key as soon as I know what USB transactions are required. It's not simple. I have analyzed two devices that implement the home key and the answer just wasn't there. However, my USB analyzer only works on a PC so I can't see what the PS3 is doing to the device to enable this function. I'm at the point where I need to lease a USB transaction sniffer. They are very high $$$.Would one of these work? I may be able to get one 'on loan' for up to a month.

http://www.lecroy.com/tm/products/ProtocolAnalyzers/usbhs.asp?menuid=67

What about one of these units?

http://www.totalphase.com/products/overview/usb/

OK. Cleaned the contacts, plugged it into my PC and nothing shows up, so I will e-mail you the info and send it back via snail mail.

Thanks for the quick response over the holiday!

Well, I am sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks for your patience! Guess I'll have to turn in my SuperMan cape now. Just glad you're here in the US so you'll get your replacement right away.

Would one of these work? I may be able to get one 'on loan' for up to a month.

http://www.lecroy.com/tm/products/ProtocolAnalyzers/usbhs.asp?menuid=67

What about one of these units?

http://www.totalphase.com/products/overview/usb/

Thanks for the input. FUMPER gave me a heads up on the Beagle and I've already got one on the way!

My new PS3IRX1 is working well with my Sony DVR (HDG-HDD250) remote. I just moved the switch to DVD and it was already set to control a Sony DVD player, hence it worked with the PS3IRX1.

One question I have is whether the sixaxis "Select" key is supported. I haven't been able to find the equivalent on my remote. As a work-around, I can use the triangle (menu) key then select the function from the on-screen menu.

Just received the PS3IRX1 in the mail today.

Plugged it into one of the PS3 USB ports & it worked fine first time out. I have the PS3 inside a large wall unit behind a door closed.

My controller is a Harmony 890 IR/RF combo unit programmed for PS2 with an IR extender inside the wall unit.

The 890 transmits an RF signal which is converted to an IR signal by the extender then the PS3IRX1 does its thing when it gets the IR command.

Am very happy with the results


Hi Bear,

I have the exact same setup. Could you tell me a bit more about how you setup A) the IR extender? (did you just place the extender to the front of the PS3IRX1?) and B) did you use the PS3 as the device, but change the controls to the PS2 or did you not use the PS3 in the device setup at all?

Thanks in advance!

Hi Bear,

I have the exact same setup. Could you tell me a bit more about how you setup A) the IR extender? (did you just place the extender to the front of the PS3IRX1?) and B) did you use the PS3 as the device, but change the controls to the PS2 or did you not use the PS3 in the device setup at all?

Thanks in advance!

I have the extender mounted to the side of the cabinet wall as far forward as it will go about equidistant from the top & bottom. The 2 shelves have their front edge set back a bit from the front edge of the cabinet.

Starting at the cabinet floor I have the TX-SR674 by itself because it generates a lot of heat.

On the first shelf up I have a Toshiba HDMI std def DVD player, sitting on top of that a Zenith VCR. The Tosh sits on one inch square tubing & the VCR sits on one inch square tubing to give them some airflow. The back of the cabinet is slotted to provide ventilation.

On the top shelf I have the PS3 sitting next to a Wii.

Since the cable box is in another section of the cabinet I ran the 4 double ended IR emitters along the bottoms of the shelves since I had to use one set anyway. The IR emitters are not assigned to any specific device. The TV is controlled with IR output direct from the 890 since it is always in the clear.

I set the up 890 device section as a PS2 then incorporated that into my activities. I renamed the PS2 activity on the 890 screen to BluRay. I did not know there was a PS3 choice & never even looked for one.

Right now all I have to do by hand outside of loading the disks in turning off the PS3.

I can take a few pictures when I get home if you think you would like to see it.

^^Thanks much Bear! I think I know how I will run it now. I have LOVED the 890 up to now, excluding the fact that I could not control the PS3. So thank you and thanks to Mike for this great little innovation!

Well, I've ordered :cool:. Looking forward to tryin' it out with my 880.

Thanks,
Dave

In case anyone is interested, EBGames.com now has the Nyko BluWave remote for 9.99 + tax, you can get free Value shipping (5-10 days) with "SAVER" code to save $2.99.

After updating to FW 2.01 it seems like the Nyko no longer has that 2 second delay anymore when first issuing commands. FYI. No more delay and no more "up arrow" bug.

Nothing against Mike, just one more note that the Nyko is working great for me as well. I just received mine recently (after already upgrading to firmware 2.01 on the PS3) so I never had any of the previous issues but I have tested for them and it seems work very well. I'm totally happy with it other than the power on/off issue, which is annoying but not a deal breaker for the moment. Having *at least* the ability to turn it off would be pretty handy. But oh well.

Just ordered one for my new PS3 (an 80gig Wal-Mart special). Looking forward to using it with my Harmony 720.

I have a Logitech 550 remote and it works great with everything except for the ps3. I was thinking about picking up the Nyko PS3 Blueway remote control today.

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802793

Will the Nyko remote some how enable me to use my Logitech 550 remote for the ps3, and if so what do I have to do exactly in order for my Logitech to work with the ps3.

Also, will the Nyko remote turn the ps3 on & off. Please help a newbie out :-)

I have a Logitech 550 remote and it works great with everything except for the ps3. I was thinking about picking up the Nyko PS3 Blueway remote control today.

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802793

Will the Nyko remote some how enable me to use my Logitech 550 remote for the ps3, and if so what do I have to do exactly in order for my Logitech to work with the ps3.

Also, will the Nyko remote turn the ps3 on & off. Please help a newbie out :-)
Disclaimer: I had a bad experience with the Nyko originally that led to me returning it and buying a USBIRX3. However, by the reports here, the latest firmware revisions for the PS3 have finally ironed out the problems I was experiencing. It should work all right for you.

For the Harmony, all you need to do is add a "Game Console with DVD" device, manufacturer Nyko, device name "Blu-Wave" (I think that's how it's named in the database). Then you just need to create an activity for it, check the button mappings in the activity, and you should be good to go.

No, you can't use the Nyko to turn the PS3 on and off, because it can't emulate the functionality of the Sixaxis' "PS" button. Mike Muecke is working on adding that functionality to the PS3IRX1, but I don't think there's any ETA yet.

I'd still recommend the PS3IRX1 as the best solution, but it sounds like the Nyko has reached the point where it's workable.

thanks dixie for the quick response, may try it out.

Nothing against Mike, just one more note that the Nyko is working great for me as well. I just received mine recently (after already upgrading to firmware 2.01 on the PS3) so I never had any of the previous issues but I have tested for them and it seems work very well. I'm totally happy with it other than the power on/off issue, which is annoying but not a deal breaker for the moment. Having *at least* the ability to turn it off would be pretty handy. But oh well.

I'm a few weeks away from offering a model with power ON/Off. I'm also going to add Home key support soon in the base model.

Sounds like Sony is working to make the NYKO more functional. I truly wish Sony would work with me to add USB control of ON/OFF. I've tried to talk to them but got the big brush off. The Pacific rim companies typically work together (when they aren't pirating each other). Kind of makes for an uneven playing field. But, for my company, I'm more interested in providing products for the high end, not the low end. I can't compete against China on price. There are enough avid Gadget Junkies out there to keep me busy! By sevicing the high end, I'm able to afford to personally support my customers and continue to evolve the product. This kind of product REQUIRES ongoing support. Try getting someone to actually answer your questions at NYKO. No way. Do they keep in touch via forums? What happens when the Sony firmware breaks the NYKO again?

Just curious, does the NYKO support the Home key? Also, does it handle the button mapping of Pirates of the Caribbean - DMC properly? Does it look great and blend well with the front panel of the PS3? (I'm rather proud of the new looks of the PS3IRX1).

Anyway, I don't take any of this personally. I'm amazed that they can provide so much hardware for such a small price. Wow!

BTW, I'm still having fun! :D

Mike
Schmartz.com

I'm a few weeks away from offering a model with power ON/Off. I'm also going to add Home key support soon in the base model.


I guess this means someone on my Christmas list, will be getting a smaller present! :D

I'm a few weeks away from offering a model with power ON/Off. I'm also going to add Home key support soon in the base model.

Interesting distinction -- does that mean that the base PS3IRX1 (or USBIRX3 w/upgraded firmware) will be able to power off via the Home-button menu, and the new model will be able to power on and off directly? (I'm envisioning the new model with a tiny little mechanical arm that folds out, reaches up over the front edge of the PS3, and smacks the on/off button. You could add direct "Eject" button support the same way...)

Also, how do you plan to map the Home button? Some special key combination (might be tough to program on a remote, even a Harmony), or map a rarely-used button from the Sony remote?

Or is too early to be asking these questions? :D

Just curious, does the NYKO support the Home key? Also, does it handle the button mapping of Pirates of the Caribbean - DMC properly?
I was just wondering the same thing, since I got rid of my Nyko before I encountered the POTC: DMC problem. I've also started seeing reports that Ratatouille BD does the same sort of button remapping, so this may be an ongoing thing with Disney BDs and the Java platform they're using.

I just got my PS3IR from Schmartz. It works great with PS3 firmware 2.01 and my Harmony 890 - far better than I expected. Response is very snappy. The functionality is far better than I expected. Power on/off is the only real limitation, and there does not seem to be a way to jump to the main menu when playing a Blu-ray disc (but there is a key to bring up the Pop-Up Menu, from which you can often access the main menu). When configuring my Harmony, I just entered "PS3" as the device type and all the commands were there. I did change some mappings...mapped Exit key to the Return command, and the Guide key to the Top Menu command (which actually brings up the pop-up BD menu) and the Info key to the Display command. I also think I had to change the mapping of the OK key to the Enter command (it might have defaulted there, but I'm not sure). I'm very surprised that it works as well as it does. I have the new PS3 40gb version, if that makes any difference.

I just got my PS3IR from Schmartz. It works great with PS3 firmware 2.01 and my Harmony 890 - far better than I expected. Response is very snappy. The functionality is far better than I expected. Power on/off is the only real limitation, and there does not seem to be a way to jump to the main menu when playing a Blu-ray disc (but there is a key to bring up the Pop-Up Menu, from which you can often access the main menu). When configuring my Harmony, I just entered "PS3" as the device type and all the commands were there. I did change some mappings...mapped Exit key to the Return command, and the Guide key to the Top Menu command (which actually brings up the pop-up BD menu) and the Info key to the Display command. I also think I had to change the mapping of the OK key to the Enter command (it might have defaulted there, but I'm not sure). I'm very surprised that it works as well as it does. I have the new PS3 40gb version, if that makes any difference.

Thanks for the report. I was hoping Sony didn't change the front panel shape so the PS3IRX1 would still fit. Good news!

I'm a few weeks away from offering a model with power ON/Off. I'm also going to add Home key support soon in the base model.Mike
Schmartz.com

Will we have to replace the PS3IRX1 or will it be a firmware upgrade?

Or is too early to be asking these questions?


Never too early! I expect to have the firmware working here in the lab today or tomorrow now that I have a USB hardware packet sniffer. What would make sense for the home key mapping?

Interesting thought on the eject. I don't think I have room for the extra components. But, it is the same concept. I spoof a touch event on the front panel with a small sticker. The sticker contains a copper pad that is placed over the switch to be activated. I send signals to this copper pad to emulate a touch. Works great and you can still manually touch for activation since the sticker is really thin. I plan to provide a black sticker with the 0/1 graphics so that it looks nice. There will be a tiny wire running between the sticker and the unit.

Will we have to replace the PS3IRX1 or will it be a firmware upgrade?

Home key support is just a firmware upgrade that I can do for a small fee.

The power on/off unit is more compicated and a totally different product. I'd have it out sooner but I keep getting swamped by orders for the existing unit.:)

Never too early! I expect to have the firmware working here in the lab today or tomorrow now that I have a USB hardware packet sniffer. What would make sense for the home key mapping?

Interesting thought on the eject. I don't think I have room for the extra components. But, it is the same concept. I spoof a touch event on the front panel with a small sticker. The sticker contains a copper pad that is placed over the switch to be activated. I send signals to this copper pad to emulate a touch. Works great and you can still manually touch for activation since the sticker is really thin. I plan to provide a black sticker with the 0/1 graphics so that it looks nice. There will be a tiny wire running between the sticker and the unit.

Hmm -- looking at your key mapping chart, how about "Subtitle" to serve as the Home button? It's the one DVD remote button on the chart that doesn't have an intuitive or semi-intuitive mapping to the available controller functions, so it really doesn't serve any useful function right now.

I was joking about the mechanical arm for on/off, but looks like I hit closer to home than I knew. (Not that I wouldn't like to have a PS3 with metal tentacles, but that sort of thing never ends well.) That's a pretty neat hardware hack you came up with -- if the wire is going to be long enough and flexible enough to route it unobtrusively along the edges of the PS3, then it could be effectively invisible, just like the PS3IRX1 itself. Sounds like you really are having fun with this stuff!

I'm sure that if you could add a similar connection for the Eject button, it would be popular as well. It would still be nice to have a one-button eject on the remote, rather than having to navigate into the Options menu to do it, or fumble for the console's Eject button in a darkened room.

I'm happy to report that there are no current issues with the PS3IRX1. I'm getting 100% yield and have figured out how to build them in larger quantities. I did have another DOA last week but it turns out to be from the same first batch that the only other DOA came from. Somehow they didn't get programmed. Considering the fact that I test 100% of the units before they are shipped, how this happened is a mystery to me. But, on that first new batch, I was doing order fulfillment for two days straight so I probably grabbed a couple from the wrong pile at 4AM. I was getting a little delirious!

I am also happy to report that I am close to recovering the costs of tooling, etc. So I will finally be able to make some $$$ as well as have fun. I had the current plastic tool made by ProtoMold. They are excellent at low volume. The current tool is good for about 100k units. If somehow I manage to exceed that, I'll will then be able to afford the more expensive hard tool. With a hard tool, the plastic piece cost will go way down. Right now they cost a whopping $4 each in quantity.

I'm hoping Sony doesn't try to shut me down when I start selling the PS3IR+PWR device. They seem to be hell bent on keeping BlueTooth and the PSP as the only ways to turn on the PS3 so, we'll see. At least then they would finally be talking to me:D I'm guessing that they won't want to further annoy their PS3 customers. I did receive an order for three units from a law firm recently so, it does kind of make me nervous:eek:

Sales are up again so I'll need to get help with order fulfillment soon. That will free me up to do customer support, improve the products, and maybe even build a real web site. The current web site is admittedly lame. I am also working toward adding PayPal and Google Checkout options. This will clean up the international order process.

Even though the current website is lacking, it does have the important stuff covered well. All transactions are handled by GoDaddy.com through a secure financial gateway provided by Innovative Solutions (a Quicken Company) so, I don't ever have to handle any secure information myself. The Google and PayPal options will just make this more evident and finally support international addresses properly. This should make the process seem more comfortable and secure.

I appreciate everyone for buying my products and being patient while I get better at the business side of things. I promise to improve the Shopping experience soon!

Hopefully some AVS members find this bit of information interesting and that it is appropriate for the forum. Someone please let me know otherwise!

I'm on the verge of ordering one of your products, but since the power on/off and home key are on the verge of completion, I think I want to wait. What will the price increase look like for the PS3IR+PWR?

Hmm -- looking at your key mapping chart, how about "Subtitle" to serve as the Home button? It's the one DVD remote button on the chart that doesn't have an intuitive or semi-intuitive mapping to the available controller functions, so it really doesn't serve any useful function right now.

Hmmm... it doesn't seem very intuitive but it may be the best option, at least for hard core gadget freaks who are happy to remap keys and such. I'm not sure how this would seem to the general public. Of course, the general public would probably shy away from adding this kind of hack anyway.

What about the "Program" code. I can use any code in the standard Sony DVD and/or PS2 code set. And this key is not implemented on the PS3 so it wouldn't be as confusing maybe? I do hope to eventually develop an IR to BlueTooth module. In that case, "Subtitle" will be a valid key (along with every other key on the Sony PS3 remote, even colors, etc).

I'm on the verge of ordering one of your products, but since the power on/off and home key are on the verge of completion, I think I want to wait. What will the price increase look like for the PS3IR+PWR?

Well I don't think I'm supposed to talk about prices here right? But I guess since this is in general terms it's OK. I am going to offer it in the $50 range. It's a tiny niche market so it is a specialty item with very low volumes. Hence the price. FYI, there are several others waiting already. Sounds to me like a fine strategy if you are the patient sort. It may be late January before I get it into full production so, you may want to get the base model for now. But it all depends on how much you are into gadgets. Me, I routinely pay more than the cost of the base unit just for shipping 'cause I can't wait for ground shipping. But then again, I am a huge gadget freak:D

Hmmm... it doesn't seem very intuitive but it may be the best option, at least for hard core gadget freaks who are happy to remap keys and such. I'm not sure how this would seem to the general public. Of course, the general public would probably shy away from adding this kind of hack anyway.

What about the "Program" code. I can use any code in the standard Sony DVD and/or PS2 code set. And this key is not implemented on the PS3 so it wouldn't be as confusing maybe? I do hope to eventually develop an IR to BlueTooth module. In that case, "Subtitle" will be a valid key (along with every other key on the Sony PS3 remote, even colors, etc).

Gotcha. Not having a PS2 remote to look at, I was going by your previously posted chart, but I just logged into my Harmony account to check the full list of PS2 codes available. You're right, "Program" does make more sense. I assume you're reserving "Power" for the new on/off-capable device, or I'd propose that too.

For Harmony users, the choice is moot, since we can map any button (soft or hard) to any IR code. For those with less flexible remotes, there might be a question of whether their default configuration is more likely to make the Program or the Subtitle function available to them. However, for the core audience purchasing the device, those who have a button-mapping problem are much more likely to be able to fix it than the average consumer.

...will there be a charge for the firmware upgrade?

Thanks! I don't mean to get you into trouble regarding prices. I was just curious if it would still be something I'm interested in once I get a rough price, and it is :)

I'm not in a *huge* hurry to have one, so I can wait. Unless, of course, the current units will be upgradeable - but it seems that this is probably not an option since it sounds like differenet hardware entirely.

So no biggie, I'll tough it out another month or two!

...will there be a charge for the firmware upgrade?

Yes, I'll add an item to the shopping cart options. I'm planning on charging $10 for the upgrade (includes free shipping). This means that I can upgrade and get yours back to you in 2-3 days for US destinations.

I haven't really figured it all out yet. One option is that I could process a few at a time and just send out an upgraded unit as soon as the upgrade is ordered. I would have to charge the full price and then credit back the difference when the old one arrives back at my lab. That way nobody would need to be without their unit. But that would mean that I would consider all units as being in an upgrade pool so that you wouldn't be getting the same one back. I'm not so sure how this would set with some people since the condition of the shiny plastic cover can vary depending on how well you treat it. It scratches real easily since it has a shiny finish.


I can also upgrade the original USBIRX3 units but I don't have any of those to start an upgrade pool.

Yes, I'll add an item to the shopping cart options. I'm planning on charging $10 for the upgrade (includes free shipping). This means that I can upgrade and get yours back to you in 2-3 days for US destinations.

I haven't really figured it all out yet. One option is that I could process a few at a time and just send out an upgraded unit as soon as the upgrade is ordered. I would have to charge the full price and then credit back the difference when the old one arrives back at my lab. That way nobody would need to be without their unit. But that would mean that I would consider all units as being in an upgrade pool so that you wouldn't be getting the same one back. I'm not so sure how this would set with some people since the condition of the shiny plastic cover can vary depending on how well you treat it. It scratches real easily since it has a shiny finish.


I can also upgrade the original USBIRX3 units but I don't have any of those to start an upgrade pool.
I would definitely be interested in ordering a unit now if you think you could add the power on/off to it later, even for the difference in price.

If the shiny plastic is important to some people (it is to me... well, at least I would like minimal scratches), you might be able to offer an "as is" case option or a "new case" option for an additional $5 (if the cases really only cost you $4?). I would definitely buy one now if I could upgrade in the future for ~$20-$25.

Mike (MMuecke), the PS3 does not appear to provide power to the USB ports when the PS3 is off. If there is no power at the USB ports, how would you send a power-on touch signal? Obviously, sending a power-off touch signal (technically no different than the power-on touch signal) would not be an issue since the PS3 would already be on.

BTW, I intend to buy the PS3IRX1 as soon as you are able to add the PS button functionality. You have the most elegant solution currently available on the market.

I would definitely be interested in ordering a unit now if you think you could add the power on/off to it later, even for the difference in price.

If the shiny plastic is important to some people (it is to me... well, at least I would like minimal scratches), you might be able to offer an "as is" case option or a "new case" option for an additional $5 (if the cases really only cost you $4?). I would definitely buy one now if I could upgrade in the future for ~$20-$25.

Actually the Power ON/Off feature requires a totally different hardware design. It will look the same though.

Boy there are a lot of people posting the same questions over and over in this thread. Maybe this thread needs to die since it hasn't gotten so long and most aren't willing to search or read through the whole thing. Maybe starting a new thread with all of the FAQ info in the beginning listed in an organized fashion would be a good idea.

FYI, yes the firmware is upgradeable and yes he intends to charge a fee. Also, yes the USB port is now powered when remote play is enabled on the PS3.

I agree. Several people have emailed me saying it was too tedious to search through all of these posts. Much has changed. The only thing up front is about the old PS2 adapter solution. It would be nice to have a FAQ section and add the newer solutions with pros and cons of each. Perhaps posting the Pronto codes and key mapping for each as well. The information is all here, just widely scattered. I'll help supply info if needed. This is the first forum I've ever joined so I wouldn't know how to begin. Who has the power to start a new thread anyway?

just start it yourself with a new post at the forum level. Don;t let someone else do it as your are the only one that can control that post by editing. That is critical - being able to edit and update the first post

I recommend taking above paragragh you have - copy it and make the new post and then put a link for it here

this thread can then die and go into archive

The moderator can make it a sticky ifhe chooses to

Actually the Power ON/Off feature requires a totally different hardware design. It will look the same though.
Mike, congrats on adding this feature! Are you accepting preorders? I would like to have mine under the Christmas tree if possible.

just start it yourself with a new post at the forum level. Don;t let someone else do it as your are the only one that can control that post by editing. That is critical - being able to edit and update the first post

I recommend taking above paragragh you have - copy it and make the new post and then put a link for it here

this thread can then die and go into archive

The moderator can make it a sticky ifhe chooses to

I agree, but be sure to post the link in here, because I am waiting (also) on the PS button/ Power ON/OFF functionality to buy one of these babies, but I don't have time to look around for new threads, so I would be lost without the link.

Mike, congrats on adding this feature! Are you accepting preorders? I would like to have mine under the Christmas tree if possible.

I know I said a few weeks. But, all of the sudden, delivery by Christmas seems like a scary proposition. I wouldn't want to spoil somebody's Christmas gift if I'm delayed by an unexpected problem. I am pleased with all the interest in the new version. I'll do my best but, no promises for delivery by Christmas everybody!

I'll put the PS3IR+PWR up on the website for preorders soon. I'll post an announcement here in the forum when I do. BTW, as always, you will not be charged for the device until it ships.

I agree, but be sure to post the link in here, because I am waiting (also) on the PS button/ Power ON/OFF functionality to buy one of these babies, but I don't have time to look around for new threads, so I would be lost without the link.

I could start a thread on Schmartz solutions for the PS3 but, I'm not sure that I'm the right guy to start a general thread including the competition. I'd expect me to be a little biased.

Let me just get something straight. There's the current version. There will be a new version with the PS button implemented, and yet another one with the PWR function. Is that correct, or am I way off base here? I think I could even get away with just the PS button, and that's why I'd like to get this clarified.

And don't worry, I personally am in no hurry.

I could start a thread on Schmartz solutions for the PS3 but, I'm not sure that I'm the right guy to start a general thread including the competition. I'd expect me to be a little biased.

That's OK, you can name the thread to deal with your device and PS3. Some sort of troubleshooting/feedback/Q&A, etc.

Let me just get something straight. There's the current version. There will be a new version with the PS button implemented, and yet another one with the PWR function. Is that correct, or am I way off base here? I think I could even get away with just the PS button, and that's why I'd like to get this clarified.

And don't worry, I personally am in no hurry.

Sounds like the PS button functionality will be a firmware update to the PS3IRX1, where existing PS3IRX1 and USBIRX3 units can be returned to Mike for the firmware upgrade. The version with direct power-button functionality (via external wired connection to the PS3's power button) will be a new model with different hardware.

Good, I guess the next question is: Is it confirmed that the Power ON/OFF functionality will be via external wired connection, Mike?

And, will you be selling both the current version and the powered one?

If first answer is yes and second answer is no, I will buy one of the existing units as soon as the PS button is implemented.

If second answer is yes, it doesn't really matter for me, I will decide then.

Thanks,

Good, I guess the next question is: Is it confirmed that the Power ON/OFF functionality will be via external wired connection, Mike?

And, will you be selling both the current version and the powered one?

If first answer is yes and second answer is no, I will buy one of the existing units as soon as the PS button is implemented.

If second answer is yes, it doesn't really matter for me, I will decide then.

Thanks,

Right, the power ON/OFF control is accomplished via a sticker that is placed over the 0/1 button on the front panel. It should look professional. A tiny (black) wire will connect to the PS3IR+PWR. The wire can be routed in such a way as to not be noticeable, especially when the PS3 is sitting flat (horizontal).

I will still be selling both products. I expect some people will be happy with the home key support since you could at least turn the PS3 off.

So just to summarize a little further, and please correct me if I'm wrong!

--

-Currently available is the PS3IRX1 which does all but power on/off and home button.

-Soon to be available will be the *new* PS3IRX1 which WILL have the home button, but not power on/off.

-Also soon to be available is the PS3IR+PWR which will do the home, AND will do power on/off.

-The current PS3IRX1 units will be able to have the firmware upgraded for a small fee. This upgrade will alow current units to use the home button but NOT power on/off.

-Current units and the *new* PS3IRX1 will NOT be able to be upgraded to a PS3IR+PWR because they are different hardware.

So, in other words, if you are waiting for the power on/off function, you would probably want to hold off until the PS3IR+PWR is released.


Is that all correct?

I have heard a lot of difference opinions on this subject, and maybe this is best suited for the harmony threads.

What is the consensus for setting up control of the PS3 commands in Harmony setup.

I know to start with Game w/ built in DVD. After that I've read PStwo, PS2, Nyko Blu-Wave, and recently PS3. I waiting to order his latest version, and wondering what the best choice is for my 880.

Right, the power ON/OFF control is accomplished via a sticker that is placed over the 0/1 button on the front panel. It should look professional. A tiny (black) wire will connect to the PS3IR+PWR. The wire can be routed in such a way as to not be noticeable, especially when the PS3 is sitting flat (horizontal).

I will still be selling both products. I expect some people will be happy with the home key support since you could at least turn the PS3 off.

That's correct, me included. I will be checking back here often and will place an order once the PS button is implemented in production.

Thanks a lot, and don't be shy about starting the new thread, it will actually help a lot of people around here, if you keep it updated with FAQ, news, troubleshooting, and the like.

I have heard a lot of difference opinions on this subject, and maybe this is best suited for the harmony threads.

What is the consensus for setting up control of the PS3 commands in Harmony setup.

I know to start with Game w/ built in DVD. After that I've read PStwo, PS2, Nyko Blu-Wave, and recently PS3. I waiting to order his latest version, and wondering what the best choice is for my 880.

That depends what USB IR receiver you're using with your Harmony. If it's the Nyko Bluwave, then you should select that device, because it has its own IR codes. If you're using one of the following:

Official PS2 DVD remote IR receiver with a PS2-to-USB adapter
Schmartz.com USBIRX3
Schmartz.com PS3IRX1

then Sony PStwo is the best bet, since all of those use the IR codes for the official Sony PS2 remote. If you're using a third-party PS2 IR receiver, then you'd need to find the right codes or learn them from the matching remote, since the third-party products are unlikely to use the Sony IR codes.

At some point, it seems like either somebody re-added the PS2 remote codes to the Harmony database with the name "Sony PS3", or the Harmony folks created an alias for the PStwo entry. It should work equally well, but you might as well go with the PStwo device.

Note that whatever you do, you're going to need an IR receiver of some sort, since the PS3 does not include any built-in IR functionality.

Actually I recommend that someone else start the thread. AVS is very particular about not using the forum to advertise. Mike might not be intentionally trying to advertise but him posting a thread about it (even if it's completely non-biased and presents all options with all correct information) could be misconstrued by the moderators.

Actually I recommend that someone else start the thread. AVS is very particular about not using the forum to advertise. Mike might not be intentionally trying to advertise but him posting a thread about it (even if it's completely non-biased and presents all options with all correct information) could be misconstrued by the moderators.

Actually, I recommend we lose the "new thread" idea and just leave everything here. Who wants to have to set up a new subscription? :rolleyes:

Actually, I recommend we lose the "new thread" idea and just leave everything here. Who wants to have to set up a new subscription? :rolleyes:

This is short-sighted. I just bought my remote several days ago (just got a PS3).

I don't want to have to search for Pronto codes, nor read this long thread.

Neither do many other newcomers. It would be common courtesy to have an FAQ in the first post of a new thread. It would take old timers several seconds to subscribe to such a thread and that thread could easily linked here. I would much rather do that than read this entire thread, or search through it for what I don't know.

And its apparent that MMuecke doesn't want to keep answering newbie questions either.

I can't address the "don't like advertising" aspect very - well, but I would think he makes a trivial amount on these sales so it appears more of a service to AVS'rs rather than advertising.

A similar outlook on Moome products in the CRT forum/marketplace got me and I am sure many others subscribed to an alternate another outside forum to get information, so I suppose it is a potentially valid concern but maybe not as this is not a product conflicts with something AVS or their suppliers are offering.

At any rate I hope the FAQ is done before I get mine and start playing with it or shooting newbie questions back here.

Sounds like Sony is working to make the NYKO more functional.

I have absolutely nothing to back this up, but I kind of got the feeling that whatever Sony broke with 2.00 and fixed with 2.01 was just coincidental to how the Nyko worked. I doubt they're working with anyone on the USB remote support. I think they'd either develop one themselves or work with Logitech on it.

And its apparent that MMuecke doesn't want to keep answering newbie questions either.


Really, I like talking to everybody. Even Newbies!

But, I imagine it gets pretty boring for subscribers to see the same questions over and over. However it gets done, we need a thread that starts out with all of the current information, product history and descriptions, future product descriptions, setup recommendations, FAQ, and with the Key mappings and Pronto code files attached. This would cut down on chatter and help newbies find the support they need right away.

Speaking of newbies, since I link back to this forum, I have been adding to the count of members in the AVS community. They see the ads, they wander to other areas... How can this be a bad thing?

Really, I like talking to everybody. Even Newbies!

But, I imagine it gets pretty boring for subscribers to see the same questions over and over. However it gets done, we need a thread that starts out with all of the current information, product history and descriptions, future product descriptions, setup recommendations, FAQ, and with the Key mappings and Pronto code files attached. This would cut down on chatter and help newbies find the support they need right away.

Speaking of newbies, since I link back to this forum, I have been adding to the count of members in the AVS community. They see the ads, they wander to other areas... How can this be a bad thing?

Sounds like a list of things that belong on YOUR site. ;)

I have absolutely nothing to back this up, but I kind of got the feeling that whatever Sony broke with 2.00 and fixed with 2.01 was just coincidental to how the Nyko worked. I doubt they're working with anyone on the USB remote support. I think they'd either develop one themselves or work with Logitech on it.

You're probably right.

OK, I decided to start the thread and I will update it as needed. Mike has already saved the second post for further updates.

Take a look at the new thread. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=946674)

Sounds like a list of things that belong on YOUR site. ;)

Absolutely true! And I am working on that very thing. In the meantime I hope AVS doesn't mind the added traffic and new members. Some sort of compendium of all of the PS3 IR solutions probably belongs here until Sony adds IR support to the PS3.

So just to summarize a little further, and please correct me if I'm wrong!

--

-Currently available is the PS3IRX1 which does all but power on/off and home button.

-Soon to be available will be the *new* PS3IRX1 which WILL have the home button, but not power on/off.

-Also soon to be available is the PS3IR+PWR which will do the home, AND will do power on/off.

-The current PS3IRX1 units will be able to have the firmware upgraded for a small fee. This upgrade will alow current units to use the home button but NOT power on/off.

-Current units and the *new* PS3IRX1 will NOT be able to be upgraded to a PS3IR+PWR because they are different hardware.

So, in other words, if you are waiting for the power on/off function, you would probably want to hold off until the PS3IR+PWR is released.


Is that all correct?

Absolutely correct!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the "Home" key allow turning off the unit by holding it down? I would be happy if it did that and not need the "power kit".

Right. And just a press of the Home/PS Button turns it on, too...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the "Home" key allow turning off the unit by holding it down? I would be happy if it did that and not need the "power kit".

YEs you will be able to turn off the PS3. No, you will not be able to turn On the PS3 with the home button.

Mike, Will there be access to the main menu button (not pop up menu) in the future for one of your devices or firmwares? It's annoying that the menu button doesn't work during previews. I have to skip them until I get to the main menu or the movie plays.

Mike, Will there be access to the main menu button (not pop up menu) in the future for one of your devices or firmwares? It's annoying that the menu button doesn't work during previews. I have to skip them until I get to the main menu or the movie plays.

Can you go to the main menu using the wireless controller?

If so, what button do you use?

where is the home key located, which remote are you talking about exactly

Mike what is the price expected to be for the new hardware w/on & off capabilities?

YEs you will be able to turn off the PS3. No, you will not be able to turn On the PS3 with the home button.

Ah, I forgot about that. This is a show stopper for me. I suppose, since it's USB and USB isn't powered when the PS3 is in standby, the home button wouldn't turn it on. Bummer. :(

So I guess it's wait until the new hardware comes out for me, but I will have to see it with the PS3 vertical because I don't have an option to mount it horizontally. I'm not a big fan of wires running everywhere.

Mike, how with your hardware solution get power?

Mike, how with your hardware solution get power?


You must enable the USB port power to stay on by enabling the remote start feature on the PS3. Unfortunately, the PS3 doesn't seem to support USB remote wakeup from standby so this doesn't help for Power On. Sony could choose to do this someday but so far. Nada.

You must enable the USB port power to stay on by enabling the remote start feature on the PS3. Unfortunately, the PS3 doesn't seem to support USB remote wakeup from standby so this doesn't help for Power On. Sony could choose to do this someday but so far. Nada.

Urk. To enable remote start, you'd still need a PSP handy to set up Remote Play on the PS3, correct? That's kind of a pain.

Does anyone know if the Remote Play communication between PS3 and PSP is based on direct (802.11 ad-hoc mode) wireless communication, or is it IP-based? Seems like someone ought to be able to write a piece of software to run on a PC or other device and emulate the network functionality of a PSP. That might make it possible to enable remote start without having a real PSP on hand. (Of course, knowing Sony they've probably encrypted the communication between the devices, but nothing's insurmountable.)

Urk. To enable remote start, you'd still need a PSP handy to set up Remote Play on the PS3, correct? That's kind of a pain.

Does anyone know if the Remote Play communication between PS3 and PSP is based on direct (802.11 ad-hoc mode) wireless communication, or is it IP-based? Seems like someone ought to be able to write a piece of software to run on a PC or other device and emulate the network functionality of a PSP. That might make it possible to enable remote start without having a real PSP on hand. (Of course, knowing Sony they've probably encrypted the communication between the devices, but nothing's insurmountable.)

It's IP based as I don't have to be on the same network as the PS3 with my PSP. I can be anywhere in the world (with WiFi) and access my PS3.

Having said that, Sony would not likely release this and, even if you had the SDK, would seem to be a huge security threat. I suppose that's why you have to "pair" your PSP to your PS3 initially.

Am I understanding right that if you have a PSP you can program your PS3 to leave power on to the usb ports all the time?

If this is the case, and you "turned on usb ports," wouldn't the *new* PS3IRX1 that incorporates the home key work to turn on the PS3 the same way that the home key on the ps3 controllers can turn on the system?

I don't know why Sony wouldn't leave power on to the usb ports when the system is in standby. I would like that feature for charging controllers while my system is off. It really bothers me that I have to charge them when the system is on.

Am I understanding right that if you have a PSP you can program your PS3 to leave power on to the usb ports all the time?

If this is the case, and you "turned on usb ports," wouldn't the *new* PS3IRX1 that incorporates the home key work to turn on the PS3 the same way that the home key on the ps3 controllers can turn on the system?

I don't know why Sony wouldn't leave power on to the usb ports when the system is in standby. I would like that feature for charging controllers while my system is off. It really bothers me that I have to charge them when the system is on.

Unfortunately, these are two different things. Enabling remote start (which requires a PSP) means that the USB ports have power while the PS3 is in standby. This will let Mike's new on-off capable device receive the IR signal to power on, and send an electrical impulse to the PS3's physical on/off button.

However, even with remote start turned on, the PS3 still won't honor a wakeup signal coming from the USB ports the way that it will from a Bluetooth controller. That would require a further firmware change from Sony. That's why the updated PS3IRX1 with home-button functionality still won't wake up the system.

Unfortunately, these are two different things. Enabling remote start (which requires a PSP) means that the USB ports have power while the PS3 is in standby. This will let Mike's new on-off capable device receive the IR signal to power on, and send an electrical impulse to the PS3's physical on/off button.

However, even with remote start turned on, the PS3 still won't honor a wakeup signal coming from the USB ports the way that it will from a Bluetooth controller. That would require a further firmware change from Sony. That's why the updated PS3IRX1 with home-button functionality still won't wake up the system.
Thanks for clearing that up.

As a side note, can one PSP "enable" as many PS3s as it wants? It would almost be worth it to all chip in for a PSP and then just pass it from person to person after we all enable with it. I would buy one myself but I really have no use at all for it other than enabling power to the USBs for standby.

Thanks for clearing that up.

As a side note, can one PSP "enable" as many PS3s as it wants? It would almost be worth it to all chip in for a PSP and then just pass it from person to person after we all enable with it. I would buy one myself but I really have no use at all for it other than enabling power to the USBs for standby.

Judging by the online PS3 manual at us.playstation.com, a PSP can only be paired with one PS3 at a time (and vice versa). However, I don't see why the PS3 would ever find out if its associated PSP abandoned it for another PS3, so one PSP should be able to serially pair with an unlimited number of PS3s, and enable each one to turn on Remote Start.

... I would buy one myself but I really have no use at all for it other than enabling power to the USBs for standby.

Ask one of the kids in your neighborhood if you can borrow his. :)

Home key support is just a firmware upgrade that I can do for a small fee.

I was going to order a PS3IRX1 instead of getting the Sony remote, but having to pay $35 for the PS3IRX1 rather than $20 for the Sony remote, and then paying for firmware upgrades just kills the sale for me. I can live with the extra remote.

Can you go to the main menu using the wireless controller?

If so, what button do you use?

Mike, I don't have a PS2 remote. I used the codes that are somewhere in this thread to program my Pronto TSU9400. The code associated with menu in the Excel file is for the pop up menu. Is there a code for the top menu?

There is no button for top menu on the sixaxis controller so no the PS3IRX1 won't do it.

There is no button for top menu on the sixaxis controller so no the PS3IRX1 won't do it.
Erik,

By Top Menu do you mean the DVD Menu that typically includes "Play" and "Scene Selection" etc? If so, there is in fact an IR button that is mapped to call up this Menu.

Erik,

By Top Menu do you mean the DVD Menu that typically includes "Play" and "Scene Selection" etc? If so, there is in fact an IR button that is mapped to call up this Menu.

SD,

That's the "Menu" button. On a DVD it will go to the DVD top menu, because that's the only kind a DVD has. On a Blu-ray disc, it will bring up the pop-up menu. To get to the top menu on a Blu-ray (the one that stops playback and looks like a DVD menu), you need to use the "Top Menu" function, which is not mapped on the Sixaxis or any of the IR remotes. You have to use Triangle to bring up the on-screen menu, and then select Top Menu from that.

Thanks. That clears things up.

If you are buying a PS3 IR remote don't forget the Nyko remote is on sale for $9.99 until this Sunday.

BTW the PS3 driving wheel with pedals is also on sale for $19.99 (50% off) at Gamestop.

... On a Blu-ray disc, it will bring up the pop-up menu. To get to the top menu on a Blu-ray (the one that stops playback and looks like a DVD menu), you need to use the "Top Menu" function, which is not mapped on the Sixaxis or any of the IR remotes. You have to use Triangle to bring up the on-screen menu, and then select Top Menu from that.
Thanks for the reply. I guess I'm still confused.

I am looking at the BD "Resident Evil during play. If I select "Menu" on my Harmony Remote I get a Menu that includes four options. Main Menu, Languages, Scene Selection, and Special Features. (If I want to stop the DVD I would have just selected Stop on my Remote.)

From that four item Menu, if I select Main Menu it is kind of a waste of time in that the choices are Play Movie (Movie is already being played), Languages, Scene Selection, Special Features, and Blu-Wizard. (All of these except Blu-Wizard are present in the original Menu window.

Bottom line, if I select "Menu" on my Harmony during playback I get the menu with all options except "Blu-Wizard" - which I don't care about.

PS Has everyone found they can map an IR key to cause the bar with the time remaining to be displayed?

quote: "PS Has everyone found they can map an IR key to cause the bar with the time remaining to be displayed?"

I have that on the "Info" button of the Harmony 880. (Nyko dongle) I can't remember which command it is from the Sixaxis controller that I mapped to it offhand though.

Edit: I just looked up my Harmony set-up (at work), and it's the "Display" command I learned from the Nyko which I have mapped to the 'Info' button.

...
Edit: I just looked up my Harmony set-up (at work), and it's the "Display" command I learned from the Nyko which I have mapped to the 'Info' button.

On my Harmony it is "Select" from the PS3 list that I have mapped to a key to get the time remaining and total time display.

Thanks for the reply. I guess I'm still confused.

I am looking at the BD "Resident Evil during play. If I select "Menu" on my Harmony Remote I get a Menu that includes four options. Main Menu, Languages, Scene Selection, and Special Features. (If I want to stop the DVD I would have just selected Stop on my Remote.)

From that four item Menu, if I select Main Menu it is kind of a waste of time in that the choices are Play Movie (Movie is already being played), Languages, Scene Selection, Special Features, and Blu-Wizard. (All of these except Blu-Wizard are present in the original Menu window.

Bottom line, if I select "Menu" on my Harmony during playback I get the menu with all options except "Blu-Wizard" - which I don't care about.

PS Has everyone found they can map an IR key to cause the bar with the time remaining to be displayed?

Is the movie still playing onscreen when you get the menu you describe? If so, it's the pop-up. It sounds like what you get when you select "Main Menu" is the "top menu". On many BD movies, it seems like the "top menu" is more or less irrelevant, since you can get everything you need from the pop-up menu. On "Blood Diamond", for instance, the top menu consists of a static screen with a list of special features -- not what you'd consider a main menu at all.

As noted by others, the controller button to display the time remaining is "Select". The Nyko and PS3IRX1 also provide a "Display" button, of course, but it ultimately maps back to the game controller "Select" button.

Is the movie still playing onscreen when you get the menu you describe? If so, it's the pop-up. It sounds like what you get when you select "Main Menu" is the "top menu". On many BD movies, it seems like the "top menu" is more or less irrelevant, since you can get everything you need from the pop-up menu. ...
:confused:

Yes, the movie is still playing. I never select "Main Menu." When I select "Menu" I have that key mapped to "Square Symbol." In the case I cited, at least, that Menu is hardly "irrelevant" in that it has all the actions I could want available at the click of one button on the Harmony.

As noted by others, the controller button to display the time remaining is "Select".
This is what I reported above - just trying to help others.

:confused:

Yes, the movie is still playing. I never select "Main Menu." When I select "Menu" I have that key mapped to "Square Symbol." In the case I cited, at least, that Menu is hardly "irrelevant" in that it has all the actions I could want available at the click of one button on the Harmony.


This is what I reported above - just trying to help others.

SD, I was saying that the "Top Menu" (same as "Main Menu") is irrelevant because everything important is available from the pop-up menu.

Sorry, I misread your question above about time display -- thought you were asking for advice, rather than offering it.

Hello :),

Thursday I received my PS3IRX1, 1 week after sending (I live in Switzerland)

I can say that it is excellent! Reactivity is really perfect, no latency, much better than all the IR receivers. I use it with my Logitech Harmony 785.

I had the Nyko Blu-Wave Infrared Remote.

It's almost to the level of a bluetooth connection!

But .. I do have a criticism, the cover metal has no good welds, and when I removed the PS3XR1 the ps3, he stayed in the port usb. So I redesigned the welds, now it is ok.

It is a pity that audio and subtitles do not work.. :/


p.s Google thanks to the English translation french :D

Hello :),

Thursday I received my PS3IRX1, 1 week after sending (I live in Switzerland)

I can say that it is excellent! Reactivity is really perfect, no latency, much better than all the IR receivers. I use it with my Logitech Harmony 785.

I had the Nyko Blu-Wave Infrared Remote.

It's almost to the level of a bluetooth connection!

But .. I do have a criticism, the cover metal has no good welds, and when I removed the PS3IRX1 the PS3, he stayed in the port USB. So I redesigned the welds, now it is OK.

It is a pity that audio and subtitles do not work.. :/


p.s Google thanks to the English translation French :D

Thank you for the feedback. It is good to know how quickly the international shipping goes.

Sorry about the cover. Sounds like I let one slip through my quality check. For now, I have to manually make the welds. Soon I will have an ultrasonic welder. That will be much better.

Please let Sony know you want audio and subtitle support via USB. Until they support this feature it is not possible for the PS3IRX1.

-Mike

Hi. I'm sorry if this question has already been answered.

How sensitive is the PS3IRX1 and does it need direct line of sight?

I ask this as I have had devices in the past that are really poor in terms of IR signal reception.

I will be controlling my PS3 through a Sony Audio System Remote, but a my PS3 is low-down I am worried that the PS3IRX1 will be obscured by the 'lip' at the front of the PS3. I addition I have a table in the middle of the lounge further compounding and line-of-sight issues.

Does anybody out there have any views on this before I buy.

Cheers in advance.

Please let Sony know you want...
-Mike

I would like to suggest a few things to Sony but don't know how. Is there a web page or link someone could direct me to?

Thanks,
Gary

I would like to suggest a few things to Sony but don't know how. Is there a web page or link someone could direct me to?

Thanks,
Gary

IF you find out how, let us all know:)

I'd like to give two big thumbs up to Mike's product as well. Provided great customer service.

IF you find out how, let us all know:)

http://www.us.playstation.com/Corporate/ContactUs/ConsumerServices (http://www.us.playstation.com/Corporate/ContactUs/ConsumerServices)

You can try this one.

I'd like to give two big thumbs up to Mike's product as well. Provided great customer service.

Me too. I bought it a couple of weeks ago, and forgot to post about it. Great product, works perfectly. Just be careful -- don't take it out of the package and set it on the couch. It's so small you could easily forget that it's there, and sit on it. Can't tell you how close I came to this when I got the package. I opened it up and was looking at it, got a phone call, and the next thing I knew I almost sat on it. :eek: So beware! :p

Dan

I heard that the new Sony ES receivers have TheaterLink. When you select an HDMI input (PS3), TL will turn that product on and allow you to control it through the ES. Has anyone confirmed this?

This was in the news today.
A Universal remnote that has BT!
http://www.electronichouse.com/images/uploads/VAVE_remote_300.jpg
http://www.electronichouse.com/article/ricavision_vave_100_universal_remote_with_windows_vista_side show_available/C55/

And a $300 price tag. :eek:

If Sony can do it for $25 you would think Logitech could come up with something at a more reasonable price.

And a $300 price tag. :eek:

If Sony can do it for $25 you would think Logitech could come up with something at a more reasonable price.
You would equate Sony's Blu-Ray remote with a programmable Universal IR/Blu-Ray/WiFi remote? lol

You would equate Sony's Blu-Ray remote with a programmable Universal IR/Blu-Ray/WiFi remote? lol

Well, no, but they did get the Bluetooth functionality in a $25 remote, that's what I was thinking about.

And a $300 price tag. :eek:

If Sony can do it for $25 you would think Logitech could come up with something at a more reasonable price.

Besides which, I haven't seen any indication yet that this will actually work with the PS3. It seems heavily Windows MCE-oriented, and I notice that the docking station is supposed to have a Bluetooth transceiver in it. That suggests to me that it actually only uses Bluetooth to talk to its own docking station...

This was in the news today.
A Universal remnote that has BT!
http://www.electronichouse.com/images/uploads/VAVE_remote_300.jpg
http://www.electronichouse.com/article/ricavision_vave_100_universal_remote_with_windows_vista_side show_available/C55/

We'll see if it supports PS3. Despite all the hype, having BlueTooth does not guarantee interoperability. But it sounds cool!

And a $300 price tag. :eek:

If Sony can do it for $25 you would think Logitech could come up with something at a more reasonable price.

Even at their volume, I suspect Sony is selling these at a loss or near the break even point. It makes sense for their long term strategy. Not so for Logitech.

I heard that the new Sony ES receivers have TheaterLink. When you select an HDMI input (PS3), TL will turn that product on and allow you to control it through the ES. Has anyone confirmed this?

Interesting... I use a Psyclone HDMI switch with 4 sources. This is by far the best way to cleanly switch everything. It switches the HDMI and the digital optical link that goes to my sound system. I have noticed that my satellite box will not turn on until I select it as the source, then it automatically turns on. The PS3 however does nothing.

For the Harmony, all you need to do is add a "Game Console with DVD" device, manufacturer Nyko, device name "Blu-Wave" (I think that's how it's named in the database). Then you just need to create an activity for it, check the button mappings in the activity, and you should be good to go.


Thanks for the tips. Works great.

To clarify for newbs like me - once you have created the activity you have to push "customize buttons" and then you can set up the buttons how you want.

I believe the only thing you cant do it turn the ps3 on and off with the nyko remote.

Ok, just found out my PS3 will be getting to me next tuesday!
So I am checking this thread and got ton of info.

What are the Pros/Cons of the Nykos Blu-Wave vs the PS3IRX1?
I plan to use my Logitech Harmony 880 to control all my gear.

I use the Harmony 880 with the Nyko Blu-Wave IR dongle with absolutely no problems. Only feature you will really miss is the On/Off. I may pick up the PS3IRX1 when that feature is integrated. Also, the Blu-Wave isn't really plug-and-play like everyone says the PS3IRX1 is. I had to learn a couple of functions to the 880 from the Nyko remote but that wasn't a big deal.

I use the Harmony 880 with the Nyko Blu-Wave IR dongle with absolutely no problems.
I learned the Nyko's commands into my Pronto, and I'm having an issue where arrow up and arrow down commands are issued twice on each press. Anyone else encounter this?

I'm really interested in this PS3IRX1 product, but I haven't been able to find where I am supposed to buy it. Can someone post a link (I'm sure it's on here somewhere but I'm at work and don't have time to read every page)?

Also, did I read correctly that to get it to work with my PS3 and Harmony 880 I just need to set it up as a Sony DVD player?

I'm really interested in this PS3IRX1 product, but I haven't been able to find where I am supposed to buy it. Can someone post a link (I'm sure it's on here somewhere but I'm at work and don't have time to read every page)?

Also, did I read correctly that to get it to work with my PS3 and Harmony 880 I just need to set it up as a Sony DVD player?

http://www.schmartz.com/main.sc

I have mine set up as a PS3 from the Harmony data base - PS2 will also work. With the PS3 selected, there is a warning that you will not be able to control the PS3. Ignore that warning - it is intended for less sophisticated users. :)

Can you get the IR nyko Dongle by itself, or, to you have to get the whole remote? Also - wouldn't just about any IR dongle work theoritically (such as what would come with a wireless mouse), or does it have to be specific for the remote functions?

Can you get the IR nyko Dongle by itself, or, to you have to get the whole remote? Also - wouldn't just about any IR dongle work theoritically (such as what would come with a wireless mouse), or does it have to be specific for the remote functions?

You have to buy the whole package, since they don't sell the dongle by itself. And no, not any dongle will work -- it has to recognize a specific set of IR codes, and it has to emulate a USB game controller to the PS3.

You have to buy the whole package, since they don't sell the dongle by itself. And no, not any dongle will work -- it has to recognize a specific set of IR codes, and it has to emulate a USB game controller to the PS3.

Thanks for the reply. I think I will get a Harmony for my other devices, but I'm going to get the Sony remote for the PS3. Since a second device is needed for power on and off, I may as well have the one that does everything.

Thanks for the reply. I think I will get a Harmony for my other devices, but I'm going to get the Sony remote for the PS3. Since a second device is needed for power on and off, I may as well have the one that does everything.
When you insert the BD/DVD into the PS3 it turns the power On. When you remove the DVD turn the power off if you desire.

By using the PS3 DVD/BD you will not be able to control volume with it and the tiny black buttons on the black remote with no back-lighting will drive you crazy if you view in other than a fully lighted room.

YMMV

I am with SaltiDawg on the 2 remotes thing. Once you get a harmony remote and start using it to control everything, you are going to get very annoyed with having to grab the PS remote to use it. Also, since you don't use the PS remote that often, you probably won't end up with the buttons memorized so you will need the lights on in order to use it.

When you say that you can't turn the playstation off does that mean with just one button press? I realize the USB ports are dead when the unit is in stand by so I understand power on being impossible, but can't you still hold down the PS button and then tell the PS to turn off? If Sony puts an on/off command over USB in an update, how hard would it be to update the Schmartz.com reciever to work with it? I probably won't get the new one with on/off ability cause I want to keep it as clean looking as possible.

I really wish Sony would have been smart enough to include an IR reciever in the unit itself, even if they wanted to use bluetooth for everything. It can't cost that much to implement.

When you say that you can't turn the playstation off does that mean with just one button press? I realize the USB ports are dead when the unit is in stand by so I understand power on being impossible, but can't you still hold down the PS button and then tell the PS to turn off? If Sony puts an on/off command over USB in an update, how hard would it be to update the Schmartz.com reciever to work with it? I probably won't get the new one with on/off ability cause I want to keep it as clean looking as possible.

I really wish Sony would have been smart enough to include an IR reciever in the unit itself, even if they wanted to use bluetooth for everything. It can't cost that much to implement.

It was reported recently that the PS button cannot (maybe "cannot" is not the right choice of word) be implemented because of a Vendor ID (or lack thereof), so turning it off from the remote is not an option either. However, I do agree that the bluetooth remote is not needed, and in some cases (mine being one) it brings more trouble than benefit... I love my Harmony remote.

And I personally don't think Sony's lack of implementation of an IR receiver had anything to do with cost, but mostly because of "innovation". I despise Sony cameras, for instance, because they use the Memory Sticks and not, say, SD cards. And for that reason alone I stay away from their cameras. But that's Sony.

...but can't you still hold down the PS button and then tell the PS to turn off? ... The PS button is not available at all to an IR device.

When you insert the BD/DVD into the PS3 it turns the power On. When you remove the DVD turn the power off if you desire.

By using the PS3 DVD/BD you will not be able to control volume with it and the tiny black buttons on the black remote with no back-lighting will drive you crazy if you view in other than a fully lighted room.

YMMV

Oh my, I didn't even think of that - that I'd have to use both remotes DURING the watching of the movie - one for volume and the other for other DVD functions. And, yes, the power issue is lesser than that.

It looks like it will be a Harmony paired with the Nyko.

The PS button is not available at all to an IR device.


Ok I didn't know that. However, doesn't the PS button does work when a controller is plugged into the USB port (not just over bluetooth), so there should be some USB signal that corresponds to that button press right? I wonder if the designer of the PS3IRX1 couldn't just assign his own IR signal that gets translated into that USB signal somehow? It seems like he has figured out how to use his own IR signal to act like it is pressing the on off button on the PS3 itself.

Does the Sony HDMI control interface with the PS3 in any way?

Ok I didn't know that. However, doesn't the PS button does work when a controller is plugged into the USB port (not just over bluetooth), so there should be some USB signal that corresponds to that button press right? I wonder if the designer of the PS3IRX1 couldn't just assign his own IR signal that gets translated into that USB signal somehow? It seems like he has figured out how to use his own IR signal to act like it is pressing the on off button on the PS3 itself.

First off, I believe that plugging the controller into the USB port only serves two purposes: to charge it, and to let the controller and PS3 sync up with each other. Even when it's plugged in, the actual control inputs still go via Bluetooth, I'm pretty sure.

Second, there is a USB code that the PS3 recognizes as the PS button. However, Sony has locked down the PS3 firmware so that it only acknowledges the PS button code if it's being sent by devices with a particular USB vendor id. Mike Muecke hasn't had any luck getting in touch with someone at Sony who could add his vendor id to the list of authorized vendors who can send the PS button code. He can't just use someone else's vendor id who's already on the list, or he's liable to get himself kicked out of the USB Implementors' Forum, and possibly sued.

The problem is not technical, but political -- the PS button is already implemented, but unless Sony is willing to specifically recognize the PS3IRX1 in the PS3 firmware, it won't work.

It looks like it will be a Harmony paired with the Nyko.
Rather than the Nyko, some of us have concluded the PS3IRX1 is a more elegant solution. http://www.schmartz.com/main.sc

Ok I didn't know that. However, doesn't the PS button does work when a controller is plugged into the USB port (not just over bluetooth), so there should be some USB signal that corresponds to that button press right?...
It is my belief that the controller when plugged into the USB port is still using Blu-Ray to communicate with the PS3. The USB port is only providing 5 Volts to the controller so as to charge the battery.

EDIT: Dixie Flatliner pointed out above that the USB port also serves to synch up the controller with the box.

I'm pretty sure when the the controller is plugged into the USB it sends the signals that way, cause for the first few system updates you had to plug the controller in to go through part of the update. I could be wrong though.

As for the rest, thanks for explaining it to me. Hopefully Mike Mueke can get hold of someone at Sony and it taken care of.

So I guess now my question is, is it worth the extra money to get the PS3IRX1 over the Blu Wave? Are there firmware updates with the PS3IRX1, and if so are they free?

I received the unit today and all I can tell you is that it works flawlessly with my Harmony 890. This unit is worth every penny! Looks great (actually, it looks more invisible the way it blends into the system), it functions great and the setup took all of about 30 seconds.

Thanks much! It's such a no brainer when another AVS member comes up with something so great.

I'm pretty sure when the the controller is plugged into the USB it sends the signals that way, cause for the first few system updates you had to plug the controller in to go through part of the update. I could be wrong though.

As for the rest, thanks for explaining it to me. Hopefully Mike Mueke can get hold of someone at Sony and it taken care of.

So I guess now my question is, is it worth the extra money to get the PS3IRX1 over the Blu Wave? Are there firmware updates with the PS3IRX1, and if so are they free?


You may want to read back a few pages on this thread. Almost every question you've asked has been answered previously. Most have been very recently, so you'd only have to read back a few pages to get up to speed :)

Rather than the Nyko, some of us have concluded the PS3IRX1 is a more elegant solution. http://www.schmartz.com/main.sc

I did look at that, but I can't tell from the photos what it is and how it connects - are there any better pictures anywhere?

I'm wondering if anyone else has tried this...or if it will even work.

I want to control the PS3 with my harmony remote, but obviously cant without an IR port. Now, i do have an IR receiver that connects using USB, its in a set i got from dell that i currently use with my Windows Media Center laptop. Since it operates under the windows OS, will it still be usable with the PS3? Has anyone tried setting this up before?

Thanks

I couldn't get any Media IR receivers to work with PS3. I tried with one from my VAIO and one from an HP.

Just get a Nyko or a PS3IRX

I did look at that, but I can't tell from the photos what it is and how it connects - are there any better pictures anywhere?
That's part of the beauty of the product... it is virtually invisible when plugged into one of the USB ports. It's a circuit board about the size of a postage stamp with a glossy black cover to match the PS3 case and a USB plug.

I'm pretty sure when the the controller is plugged into the USB it sends the signals that way, cause for the first few system updates you had to plug the controller in to go through part of the update. I could be wrong though.

As for the rest, thanks for explaining it to me. Hopefully Mike Mueke can get hold of someone at Sony and it taken care of.

So I guess now my question is, is it worth the extra money to get the PS3IRX1 over the Blu Wave? Are there firmware updates with the PS3IRX1, and if so are they free?

You might find some answers in this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=946674) as well.

I received my PS3IRX1 yesterday, 3 days after ordering. It is smaller than I thought. You really don't see it plugged in even if you know it is there. I set up my Harmony 880 using the "PS3" profile. I had to go into the buttons for the "PS3" activity to assign the controller commands to the 880 buttons. Once it was set up, everthing works perfectly! I was actually suprised at how fast and accurately the direction button works. Based on previous posts, I expected to have issues requiring me to manually learn the buttons...didn't need to.

I think the PS3IRX1 is worth the money. I'm sure Mike isn't going to sell a huge volume of these, so he has to charge a premium to make it worth while. Since I only want the dongle, The Nyko remote would have just taken up space in a drawer or landfill. The PS3IRX1 is the way to go if you want to use your existing UR.

The PS3IRX1 is the way to go if you want to use your existing UR.

Agreed, I got mine a couple of weeks a go and I'm very pleased with it. I'm using it with a Harmony 670 and as stated by other Harmony users configuring the remote has been quite painless. Nice not having to deal with multiple remotes.

Thanks Mike for making a top quality product and for the fast shipping, I'm a happy camper :)

Yes,

Cheers to Mike,

and cheers to my first posting

-dr.

Just got mine today, thanks Mike.
I'm trying to get it to work with a Yamaha RX-V1500 receiver remote which is capable of controlling Sony DVD players, but alas - no luck. There are 2 codes listed in the receivers manual (0560 and 0891) but neither one gave me any joy. It looks like I'll have to purchase a PS2 remote and train my Yammy remote, unless someone can help me out.
Then again, there's always the option of getting a Harmony.

Does the PS3IRX1 turn the PS3 on and off?

Does the PS3IRX1 turn the PS3 on and off?

Check out this page: www. schmartz.com/main.sc

There is a $35 unit that does NOT have power on/off capabilities. There is a $50 unit that adds the ability to turn the unit on/off with the use of a small wire it says.

Keeping in mind that I use my PS3 to play a game/movie off a disk, that means I have to approach the unit anyhow. Hence, you'll be putting a disk in and turning the power on/off anyhow. I saved myself the $15.

However if you leave a specific game (or movie) in your player and want to turn it off, I guess it would be a nice feature. Mine arrives today, hope to test it this weekend.

I'm trying to get it to work with a Yamaha RX-V1500 receiver remote which is capable of controlling Sony DVD players, but alas - no luck.

I'm a little surprised. There are only a handfull of Sony DVD code sets. In fact there are only two main ones used. So what you have should work. As a quick test, could you plug the device into a USB port on a PC? If you bring up the game controller window (from control panel) it should show up there. And if you click on properties, you get a display with separate LEDs to show when a button is pressed. Also, can you use Pronto codes? They are located here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12341448#post12341448).

Mike, I am really starting to get interested in the PS3IR+PWR, but a have a couple of questions:

Are you still working with Sony to get your VID added in the firmware (for Home button purposes)? How is that process going?
If another company has the proper USB Vendor Id that works with the Home button, would the USB group allow you to contact the other company to request them letting you use the same ID or is that not allowed?
Why does the remote play have to be enabled in order for the on functionality to work?
If I set up my PSP to work with remote play, then I set up the PS3IR+PWR to remote play, will my PSP still work as a remote play device? In other words, will adding the PS3IR+PWR to my PS3 stop the ability for the PSP to control the PS3?
How does the "Top Menu" and "Pop-up Menu" issue work? Since they are two different buttons on the PS3 remote, yet the PS2 remote never had these buttons, does your device support these two very different buttons?
What about the colored buttons (red, Green, Blue and Yellow)? Are they supported with your product? From what I understand, those colored buttons are going to become more important with Blu-Ray extras and functionality and I'd like to have them working.

Thanks,

Mike, I am interested in buying the PS3IRX1, but I also had a question. If you do get your USB vendor ID added, will I have to send my unit back to get upgraded, or would this be something that would come on an update for the PS3 and then the home button would work? I will order one today if I know I wont have to ship it back to get it updated. If I would have to ship it back, I will probably just wait until you get everything figured out. (BTW the power button on my PS3 doesn't seem to work right, that's why I'm not too interested in the PS3IRX1+PWR)

Just got my PS3IRX1 and it works liek a charm!
No extra work needed, just plug-it in!

My logitech harmony 880 was setup to use PS3 codes (I think)
So I guess they have it already setup to use the same PS2 codes on PS3 in the Harmony database!

I was torn on getting teh one with the power button and was actually emailing Mike about a possible exchange until I got the item in the mail today.
Really didn't want to deal with sending it back and not having Harmony control with it so I guess I will just keep it.

I guess If me (or the wife) needs teh power button feature I will just buy another and give away the one with out it.

PS:
Response time is pretty good using a Logitech harmony 880 remote with it!

Are you still working with Sony to get your VID added in the firmware (for Home button purposes)? How is that process going?
Tediously slow... I'm required to become an official Sony hardware developer. No response yet as to the cost. It will most likely be too expensive to pursue.


If another company has the proper USB Vendor Id that works with the Home button, would the USB group allow you to contact the other company to request them letting you use the same ID or is that not allowed?

With permission I would have no qualms. But I'm not so sure I understand why my competition would want to help me do this. LOL


Why does the remote play have to be enabled in order for the on functionality to work?

This allows the USB power to remain on.


If I set up my PSP to work with remote play, then I set up the PS3IR+PWR to remote play, will my PSP still work as a remote play device? In other words, will adding the PS3IR+PWR to my PS3 stop the ability for the PSP to control the PS3?

Absolutely not! My device is just using power from the USB port. It is not paired with the PS3 in any way.


How does the "Top Menu" and "Pop-up Menu" issue work? Since they are two different buttons on the PS3 remote, yet the PS2 remote never had these buttons, does your device support these two very different buttons?
What about the colored buttons (red, Green, Blue and Yellow)? Are they supported with your product? From what I understand, those colored buttons are going to become more important with Blu-Ray extras and functionality and I'd like to have them working.


These special buttons are NOT supported. And I have no way to add this to the USB devices. Sony doesn't support these functions through USB. I am looking into offering an IR to BlueTooth device that WILL support each and every function of the Sony PS3 remote. It is still a ways out.

All good questions!

If you do get your USB vendor ID added, will I have to send my unit back to get upgraded, or would this be something that would come on an update for the PS3 and then the home button would work?

As of next week, I plan to switch to new firmware that does implement the home key. For the new devices, when (and if) Sony does enable the PID, it will just work. Anything shipped up until now would require an update.

I plan to add the ability to update the firmware in the field soon. I'm trying to work it into my schedule for February.

As of next week, I plan to switch to new firmware that does implement the home key. For the new devices, when (and if) Sony does enable the PID, it will just work. Anything shipped up until now would require an update.


Thanks for the quick reply. When you get this done could you please send me a PM or post it in this thread, or your other thread in your Schmart Solutions for PS3 IR Control (Discussion, Feedback, Q&A) thread. I am subscribed to both threads so I will get an email notice. I will order one as soon as this change goes into effect. Thanks for the great work trying to help us all for this rediculous problem that Sony created:)

P.S. Have you consdered contacting a company like Logitech to see if they may be interested in buying the design off you? Seems to me like it would be a nice addition to there Harmony line, and they may have more clout with getting Sony to recognize it (they already have wireless controllers that plug into the USB ports to function).

Just in case you were feeling overwhelmed. Thank you, thank you, thank you for pioneering this little device.

Whenever its time to upgrade, I will just send you more money!

BTW the reason that I don't really want to have to ship it back, is because once I get it I'm sure I won't be able to deal without having it for a few days:)

BTW the reason that I don't really want to have to ship it back, is because once I get it I'm sure I won't be able to deal without having it for a few days:)

Exactly!
I was about to return the PS3IRX1 for the newer version with Power On/Off feature.
But I tried it out and I know I won't be able to live a few days without it!

I sure do hope an online FW Update feature will happen when I actually really need it.

For now though, it works as advertised and enough for my needs :D

I'm a little surprised. There are only a handfull of Sony DVD code sets. In fact there are only two main ones used. So what you have should work. As a quick test, could you plug the device into a USB port on a PC? If you bring up the game controller window (from control panel) it should show up there. And if you click on properties, you get a display with separate LEDs to show when a button is pressed. Also, can you use Pronto codes? They are located here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12341448#post12341448).

Thanks for your patience Mike, I needed to clear the functions already set up on the remote's DVD selector and then set the Sony DVD code (0560 works). I'm up and running and I'm a very happy little camper!
Great product and great help and advice for dummies like me.
Cheers.

Can this device be set up to be on Controller #6? or 5?
The Bluetooth is already on 7 and I have a couple of 4 player games that I wouldn't want the kids having to unplug this small dongle to have access to their games.

Thanks!

# Matt

I've asked these questions elsewhere but I've never received a response. Hopefully this is the best place to ask.

I'm on the fence about buying either the Nyko remote with IR or the PS3IRX1, but I have the same question about both: Will either let me program buttons like "display," "subtitle," and "audio" on my Harmony remote? Is there a list of the exact commands that are supported by each receiver? If not, I think it would be helpful to have an FAQ section either here or on Mike's website about what exact functions the IR receiver will allow on the universal remote. This is a selling point for me and I'm sure it would help others as well. Thanks in advance.

I've asked these questions elsewhere but I've never received a response. Hopefully this is the best place to ask.

I'm on the fence about buying either the Nyko remote with IR or the PS3IRX1, but I have the same question about both: Will either let me program buttons like "display," "subtitle," and "audio" on my Harmony remote? Is there a list of the exact commands that are supported by each receiver? If not, I think it would be helpful to have an FAQ section either here or on Mike's website about what exact functions the IR receiver will allow on the universal remote. This is a selling point for me and I'm sure it would help others as well. Thanks in advance.

If you read through back a few pages, all of these questions are answered. Most won't do this, so a dedicated thread was created here

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=946674

Is there any difference in what commands are accepted by the Nyko product and by Mike's product or do they each support the same commands?

Is there any difference in what commands are accepted by the Nyko product and by Mike's product or do they each support the same commands?

Essentially they have the same command set, because they both appear to the PS3 as a game controller. They can each perform the same playback functions as a Sixaxis controller, except for the analog sticks and the PS button (and the PS3IRX1 has the potential to emulate a working PS button in the future, unlike the Nyko).

I am looking into offering an IR to BlueTooth device that WILL support each and every function of the Sony PS3 remote. It is still a ways out.


Nice work, Mike. I think you've made a lot of people happy with this project.

I *am* surprised that an IR-to-BT device hasn't made it onto the market, yet. When I first heard the PS3 wasn't going to have IR, I figured it'd be a matter of weeks, if that, before one of those Asian companies you've never heard of had such an adapter out on the market!

Is the model that features on/off toggle only or can it be discrete on and off?

This allows the USB power to remain on.





Wait - turning on remote play keeps the USBs active when the machine is sleeping??? More info please! PM me if you can - this thread is tough to keep track of...

Is the model that features on/off toggle only or can it be discrete on and off?


Think about the technology for a moment.... When you power the PS3 on and off by hand you can only toggle, right? The on/off IR solution is only mimicking a touch of your finger, so therefore it is only a toggle.

so therefore it is only a toggle.

That is sound thinking. However, since I have a microprocessor in the PS3IR devices, I can detect when the PS3 is on or off. This means that if it is already on when a request to turn on is received, I simply do nothing. Same as with off, if an off command is received and it is already off, I do nothing. The bottom line is, I HAVE implemented a discrete power On/Off feature. I am using the '0' and '1' IR commands as the codes for this since it matches the front panel.

I am still not feeling up to snuff so, I haven't shipped the new units yet. maybe today. I'm also still tweaking and testing. When I started building in volume, I noticed that the orientation and placement of the connecting wire effects the stability of the ON/OFF control. This was unexpected. I can easily make it work here in the lab but, I am trying to make this sensitivity go away so it will be easier to install. Otherwise I will have to provide a ton of support.

Think about the technology for a moment.... When you power the PS3 on and off by hand you can only toggle, right? The on/off IR solution is only mimicking a touch of your finger, so therefore it is only a toggle.

Well, it could work if the dongle itself has a way of determining whether the PS3 is powered on or off at the moment. (Possibly from the state of the USB connection?)

However, Mike's using the PS2 IR codes, and I don't believe the PS2 had discrete power codes. As I recall, for the PS2s with built-in IR receiver, which were the only ones capable of remote power-on and -off, pushing the power button on the remote once turned on the system, and holding the power button for 3 seconds turned it off. Pushing the button while the system was on caused it to reboot, I think.

To maintain compatibility with the PS2 codeset and remotes programmed for it, he'd probably need to maintain the push-on/hold-off setup.

EDIT: Oops. Should have previewed before I posted. Looks like Mike answered the question conclusively.

That is sound thinking. However, since I have a microprocessor in the PS3IR devices, I can detect when the PS3 is on or off. This means that if it is already on when a request to turn on is received, I simply do nothing. Same as with off, if an off command is received and it is already off, I do nothing. The bottom line is, I HAVE implemented a discrete power On/Off feature. I am using the '0' and '1' IR commands as the codes for this since it matches the front panel.


Wow, that is great to hear Mike. Very nice design indeed! Good luck in ironing out the consistency of the connection.

Does the PS3IRX1+PWR have the updated firmware that allows use of the Home button, in case I want to use a harmony for other functions?

I just want to make sure that everyone understands that, in order to enable the power on function, you MUST enable remote start on the PS3. As far as I can tell, you must pair a PSP device with your PS3 in order to enable remote start. That means you must have, or at least temporarily borrow, a PSP device in order to enable the full functionality of the PS3IR+PWR.

You can still turn the PS3 off using the PS3IR+PWR without enabling the remote start. But to allow the PS3IR+PWR to turn on the PS3, the USB ports must remain powered when the PS3 is turned off. Until Sony gives us another option, the ONLY way to do this is to enable remote start.

I just want to make sure that everyone understands that, in order to enable the power on function, you MUST enable remote start on the PS3. As far as I can tell, you must pair a PSP device with your PS3 in order to enable remote start. That means you must have, or at least temporarily borrow PSP device .

Will the person that I borrow the PSP from be able to access my PS3, or is there a way to deny that once I have enabled remote play? I really want those USBs on!

I just want to make sure that everyone understands that, in order to enable the power on function, you MUST enable remote start on the PS3.

...the USB ports must remain powered when the PS3 is turned off.

first, i got my PS3IRX1 after T-giving but couldn't test it out until this week (school was quite busy). my wife is used to the way our Harmony 720 operates the regular DVD player, so after some remapping, it functions intuitively and works like a charm. thanks to Mike and everyone else's input.

back to my thought on the Remote Start: once this function has been enabled, it keeps the USB ports powered while the PS3 is off (per Mike's quote above). then this should allow us to charge our controllers, too, while the PS3 is off?! can anyone confirm this?

if this is true, i'm surprised i haven't read about this "convenience".

happy holiday's y'all!

is there any pictures of the sticker that has to be applied?

Once remote start is enabled, does it stay enabled through power cycles(rear on/off switch), firmware updates, etc? IOW, once I borrow a PSP and turn it on, what situation would require using the PSP to turn it back on again?

IOW, once I borrow a PSP and turn it on, what situation would require using the PSP to turn it back on again?

I have only used my PSP once. Since then, through months of testing, PS3 firmware upgrades, and 100s of back panel switch power cycles the USB ports have remained ON throughout everything!

Here is a picture of the PS3 front panel with the sticker applied.

I have only used my PSP once. Since then, through months of testing, PS3 firmware upgrades, and 100s of back panel switch power cycles the USB ports have remained ON throughout everything!

Perfect! Now I just need to get your unit, and "steal" my nephews PSP. :D

I have only used my PSP once. Since then, through months of testing, PS3 firmware upgrades, and 100s of back panel switch power cycles the USB ports have remained ON throughout everything!

So let me be clear for myself: if I borrow a PSP and start remote play, the USBs stay powered meaning I can turn the unit on with my universal remote using your +PWR model?

If I borrow someone else's PSP, however, does that mean they can access or start my PS3?

Want to just make sure soemthing.

In order to use the full function of the PS3IR+PWR, you will need to get a PSP?
And after you do what you need with the PSP, you can just unsync the PSP to the PS3 if needed?
And this is all just needed to keep teh USB Port On at all times and there is no other way around it but using a PSP?

Correct. You need to enable remote-play to get the PS3 to keep the USB power on. The only way to enable remote-play is to plug a PSP into the PS3.

While I understand theoretically why sony would set this up this way, it does make it a PITA for people without a PSP.

so again my question: once remote start is enabled with a PSP, which keeps the USB ports powered on while the PS3 if off, we will then be able to charge our controllers without having to turn the PS3 on???????

Quick Nyko question...

I programmed my Harmony 890 for my PS3 using the settings...
"Play Video Game"
"Play Game"
"Game Console with DVD"
"Nyko"
"Bluwave"

and I do get it to work somewhat. The keys for the X, O , triangle, & square work, but the "play", "stop", "next", "prev" and arrow pad doesn't seem to work.

Do I have to do this manually with the Nyko remote and the 890 or am I not entering in the right code for the Nyko?

Thanks.

I have only used my PSP once. Since then, through months of testing, PS3 firmware upgrades, and 100s of back panel switch power cycles the USB ports have remained ON throughout everything!

You still offering a credit if i send you my Gen 1 dongle? If I upgrade to the one with power on/off I just need my PSP one time right, not everytime I want to use the PS3?

Quick Nyko question...

I programmed my Harmony 890 for my PS3 using the settings...
"Play Video Game"
"Play Game"
"Game Console with DVD"
"Nyko"
"Bluwave"

and I do get it to work somewhat. The keys for the X, O , triangle, & square work, but the "play", "stop", "next", "prev" and arrow pad doesn't seem to work.

Do I have to do this manually with the Nyko remote and the 890 or am I not entering in the right code for the Nyko?

Thanks.

Have you done "Customize Buttons" for the activities you created yet? The Harmony software doesn't always map all the buttons you might expect when you create the activity. Just go in to each one and assign the codes to the keys that you need.

Have you done "Customize Buttons" for the activities you created yet? The Harmony software doesn't always map all the buttons you might expect when you create the activity. Just go in to each one and assign the codes to the keys that you need.

That's what I thought I'd have to do, but wasn't sure.

Thanks.

so again my question: once remote start is enabled with a PSP, which keeps the USB ports powered on while the PS3 if off, we will then be able to charge our controllers without having to turn the PS3 on???????

I can answer your question with certainty:

I have a PSP (with the latest firmware) and a 60 GB PS3 with the latest firmware. On the PS3, I have remote start enabled. I have put the PS3 into standby mode and plugged two Sony PS3 SIXAXIS controllers into the front USB port (far left when PS3 is horizontal or bottom when PS3 is verticle) and the PS3 does NOT charge the controllers. :(

Have you tried plugging the controller in while the unit is on and then turning off the unit? You know I have a PS3 (with PSP and remote start enabled) sitting not 12 feet from me and I'm too lazy to get up and try it myself. LOL

I've been trying to make my PS3IRX1 work with the Harmony 880. It seems to work but I have some trouble entering the button customization section on my Harmony Activity. I know, it's a remote issue but because of that I haven't entirely switched to using this device. Here are so me problems / questions I've had so far, maybe someone can help me:

1. On two ocasions it sees that the PS3IRX1 has hijacked the Controller #1 spot and as such I have had to unplug it so I can get my Sixaxis to connect as #1 so I can play my games. I have always had the Sony Bluray Remote as #7. Can the PS3IRX1 be forced to a certain address? or at least stay-off #1.

2. As the -PWR version became available after I bought this, is there any credit or upgrade available to trade-up to the PWR option?

Sorry if the answers are on this Thread, did a quick scan and coundn't find them.

1. On two ocasions it sees that the PS3IRX1 has hijacked the Controller #1 spot and as such I have had to unplug it so I can get my Sixaxis to connect as #1 so I can play my games. I have always had the Sony Bluray Remote as #7. Can the PS3IRX1 be forced to a certain address? or at least stay-off #1.

Are you turning on the PS3 with the sixaxis? I believe the PS3IRX1 automatically sets itself to #2 as long as the sixaxis is used to turn on the unit.

Are you turning on the PS3 with the sixaxis? I believe the PS3IRX1 automatically sets itself to #2 as long as the sixaxis is used to turn on the unit.

Yes, you would want to turn on the PS3 with whatever sixaxis controller you wish to be #1.

I see, that makes sense. Thanks guys. It's unfortunate that it can't be locked on an address like the Sony remote but I understand the limitations. I should probably buy the PS3IRX1+PWR unit but what would I do with this other one? Anyone, PM if interested, please.

Got the Nyko Bluwave today, kicked the Harmony 880 around a bit and BAM. Works very well, I have to tweak the delays a bit. The only downside is power on/power off. This isn't a deal killer, I have to get up to load a disc anyways.

On a side note, after getting used to having 2 drives (360-HDDVD combo) taking my game out to load a BD will take some getting used to.

1. On two ocasions it sees that the PS3IRX1 has hijacked the Controller #1 spot and as such I have had to unplug it so I can get my Sixaxis to connect as #1 so I can play my games. I have always had the Sony Bluray Remote as #7. Can the PS3IRX1 be forced to a certain address? or at least stay-off #1.
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I don't know about if there's a way to force PS3IRX to a specific port, but I do know there is an easier way to get the sixaxis back to #1, from the comfort of your chair w/o having to get up or unplug anything...... just push the home button -> controller settings -> change it to #1. viola

KO

It's unfortunate that it can't be locked on an address like the Sony remote but I understand the limitations.

It would take cooperation from Sony. I'm still working on becoming a registered Sony product. Until then, it's just not possible.

I should probably buy the PS3IRX1+PWR unit but what would I do with this other one?

Originally, I wanted to provide a trade in program. But, after trying it out a few times and doing the math. It's just not practical or economically feasible. OK, actually it's a real pain!

It bothers me to not help my early adopters out but I really can't do it and stay in business. It seems weird that you end up penalizing the very people who help you build your business. But, that is the nature of bleeding edge technology I guess.

I appreciate everyone that has been there from the start. And, I appreciate the feedback that has driven the product improvements. Hopefully it's enough to know this and to have the fun of being one of the first to try something out.

BTW, I tried announcing early to make this situation a little better. However, all this did was pretty much stop billable sales cold for over a month while I got the new one out. And add to that I got sick at a most inconvenient time. So now my reputation for filling orders quickly is all shot to hell. What's a guy to do...

So bottom line is, buying and selling bleeding edge technology has some issues but you gotta admit it's fun anyway!:D

Here's wishing everyone a Happy New Year! I can't wait to see what we come up with in 2008.

why is there different key association for certain movies. I just bought the Die Hard Collection on Bluray and the only thing that works is the ffw and rwd.

why is there different key association for certain movies. I just bought the Die Hard Collection on Bluray and the only thing that works is the ffw and rwd.

Could you elaborate? Which remote and which device are you using? Could you give a listing on what doesn't work?

So bottom line is, buying and selling bleeding edge technology has some issues but you gotta admit it's fun anyway!:D

Hang in there Mike. I owned a small online business such as yours a little while ago, but I shut it down because it became more of a hastle than anything. Online customers can be brutal. Many times, they don't understand that people get sick and when it's a one man company, things happen.

Well, I just purchased the PS3IR+PWR.

I hated using the controller. The buttons are too sensitive and it kept falling off the couch, skipping chapters as it stumbled to the floor

Anybody have a PSP I can borrow?

Could you elaborate? Which remote and which device are you using? Could you give a listing on what doesn't work?

Mike,
Your support on this forum is awesome. Thanks heaps for your efforts and best wishes for continued sales success with a great product.
Cheers
Stu.

So I borrowed a PSP today.

I registered the PSP and enabled Remote Start.

Once I unregistered the PSP, Remote Start was disabled.

So It looks like you can't unregister it.

Is that all that's necessary to remotely start the PS3?

Mike,
Your support on this forum is awesome. Thanks heaps for your efforts and best wishes for continued sales success with a great product.
Cheers
Stu.

Well thanks for the kind words. I'm not getting that much pleasant communication lately since I fell so far behind on shipping the new product. LOL

So I borrowed a PSP today.

I registered the PSP and enabled Remote Start.

Once I unregistered the PSP, Remote Start was disabled.

So It looks like you can't unregister it.

Is that all that's necessary to remotely start the PS3?

I think you have to leave the PSP registered with the PS3 for Remote Start to be available. As I understand it, though, if you give back the PSP and its owner pairs it back up with his/her own PS3, your PS3 will never find out about it, and Remote Start will remain enabled.

...As I understand it, though, if you give back the PSP and its owner pairs it back up with his/her own PS3, your PS3 will never find out about it, and Remote Start will remain enabled.

Can anybody else out there confirm this? My PS3IR+PWR is coming soon, and I will find somebody to borrow a PSP from if this is true. Also, if the person you borrow the PSP from doesn't pair it back up with their PS3, will they have access to your PS3? I know this has been asked before, but I haven't seen an answer to this question.

Is anyone using the PS3IR+PWR with a Home Theater Master MX900?? I see mostly people talking about Logitech and other remotes with this and I want to make sure I wont have any issues before I order.

Can anybody else out there confirm this? My PS3IR+PWR is coming soon, and I will find somebody to borrow a PSP from if this is true. Also, if the person you borrow the PSP from doesn't pair it back up with their PS3, will they have access to your PS3? I know this has been asked before, but I haven't seen an answer to this question.

Remote start requires a login using your PSN account. Their PSP will be configured to access, but they shouldn't be able to log in.

Is anyone using the PS3IR+PWR with a Home Theater Master MX900?? I see mostly people talking about Logitech and other remotes with this and I want to make sure I wont have any issues before I order.

I'm planning on using it with an MX-800 and soon to be an MX-980.

It looks like it uses PS2/PS3/Sony DVD codes, so it shouldn't be a problem.

I ordered it a few days ago.

I'm planning on using it with an MX-800 and soon to be an MX-980.

It looks like it uses PS2/PS3/Sony DVD codes, so it shouldn't be a problem.

I ordered it a few days ago.

Are there actual PS3 codes in the software? I didn't notice them when I installed the software a year ago.

I saw a post saying they used learned codes and loaded them into the software. I haven't played with my software in like a year so I need to get in there and figure out what he is talking about. Or maybe I can just use a Sony DVD player instead??

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11830328&highlight=mx-900#post11830328

Any updates on shipping these puppies out?

Thanks Mike!

Are there actual PS3 codes in the software? I didn't notice them when I installed the software a year ago.

I saw a post saying they used learned codes and loaded them into the software. I haven't played with my software in like a year so I need to get in there and figure out what he is talking about. Or maybe I can just use a Sony DVD player instead??

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11830328&highlight=mx-900#post11830328


I just took a look at the IR Database.

Under AUX/Sony, there's PlayStation 2 entry.

I guess there wouldn't be a PS3 entry, since there's no official PS3 IR remote.

If you want to wait a week or two I'll let you know it works out for me.


Eddie

I just took a look at the IR Database.

Under AUX/Sony, there's PlayStation 2 entry.

I guess there wouldn't be a PS3 entry, since there's no official PS3 IR remote.

If you want to wait a week or two I'll let you know it works out for me.


Eddie

Cool thanks, yeah PM me and let me know how it goes for you

Any updates on shipping these puppies out?

Thanks Mike!

Just so you aren't out waiting for the post carrier, the answer is I have most of the orders ready but I have not dropped them into the mail stream yet. I got ambitious and attempted to make too many for Wednesday then missed the cutoff time for getting them to the post office. Then, I checked the forum right before heading out to the post office Thursday evening and noticed a new post about what looked like a problem with one of the PS3IRX1 units using a Harmony 880. It was one of the new units I just sent with the updated code supporting the home key. I elected not to drop them off in case I needed to tweak the code since it would be effecting over 100 units. It took all day Friday to obtain an 880 for my lab and to thoroughly test the potential show stopper out. It turns out there is NO PROBLEM. My 880 works flawlessly with both PS3IR version combinations with the old and new PS3 versions. So now I can finally drop the accumulated batch of PS3IR+PWR units into the mail stream Saturday.

BTW, I just told the Harmony setup program that I had a PS3 and it just worked right away with absolutely no adjustments. Even the power ON/OFF worked great. And, I was impressed with how smooth it felt with the 880. Wow! Now I see what everyone has been raving about. I've been too busy making and testing them to sit down and enjoy using the latest stuff myself. Damn I'm good! (when I'm not screwing up) LOL just slow...

Awesome!

My dad keeps telling my mom "I don't know how to play Blu-Ray yet on the PS3" but it'll all be programmed soon enough into his Harmony 720 just like the Tosh A2 for HD-DVDs is!

Thanks for all your efforts, you rock.

BTW, I just told the Harmony setup program that I had a PS3 and it just worked right away with absolutely no adjustments. Even the power ON/OFF worked great. And, I was impressed with how smooth it felt with the 880. Wow! Now I see what everyone has been raving about. I've been too busy making and testing them to sit down and enjoy using the latest stuff myself. Damn I'm good! (when I'm not screwing up) LOL just slow...

I'm awaiting the Harmony One to replace my 880. It has nice buttons like the 659 and the functionality of the 880. My non-PWR PS3 IR remote has been great and hope it performs flawlessly with their new remote released in a few months.

I'm sorry to be asking this again, as i'm pretty sure someone in this thread already answered this
is there no way to return to the menu without using the homebutton
i.e. playing music, and then starting a picture slideshow...

i thought i saw someone mention it, but i can't seem to find it now, and can't figure out what to search for to get the post i need...

NE1???

I'm sorry to be asking this again, as i'm pretty sure someone in this thread already answered this
is there no way to return to the menu without using the homebutton
i.e. playing music, and then starting a picture slideshow...

i thought i saw someone mention it, but i can't seem to find it now, and can't figure out what to search for to get the post i need...

NE1???

By menu, do you mean the XMB? If yes, then you can just press "stop" to stop a movie disc and it will return you to the XMB.

ah yes... but you see... i want to keep the music playing

cant figure out whether this is only possible with the home button

This looks promising: http://ces.cnet.com/8301-13855_1-9844025-67.html?tag=more

I have not read all of the previous posts, so I am sorry if this has already been addressed or if this issue has already been taken care of.

Kestin

This looks promising: http://ces.cnet.com/8301-13855_1-9844025-67.html?tag=more

I have not read all of the previous posts, so I am sorry if this has already been addressed or if this issue has already been taken care of.

Kestin

Rumor is Sony won't release their Bluetooth codes to anyone in order to sell more of their remotes. So it may have bluetooth, but until it is confirmed by someone that the PS3 can be controlled by this device, I wouldn't buy one.

For those who were asking about Universal Remote Control products, like Home Theater Master, I'm using the PS2 codes out of the IR database with an MX-1000 and MX-980, and they're working just great with a Schmartz remote dongle.

For those who were asking about Universal Remote Control products, like Home Theater Master, I'm using the PS2 codes out of the IR database with an MX-1000 and MX-980, and they're working just great with a Schmartz remote dongle.

Good to hear. I just got my MX-980 today and it's just the greatest thing in the world.

I think I spent the last week programming it so it was nice to actually see it loaded on the remote. All the graphics are custom, so I had to make an image for every single button.

Now, I can't wait for the PS3IR+PWR. It'll feel good to kick the controller to the curb.

For those who were asking about Universal Remote Control products, like Home Theater Master, I'm using the PS2 codes out of the IR database with an MX-1000 and MX-980, and they're working just great with a Schmartz remote dongle.

Sweet! Now I just need to order the dongle

Good to hear. I just got my MX-980 today and it's just the greatest thing in the world.

I think I spent the last week programming it so it was nice to actually see it loaded on the remote. All the graphics are custom, so I had to make an image for every single button.

Now, I can't wait for the PS3IR+PWR. It'll feel good to kick the controller to the curb.

Damn there are graphics on the 980?? Thats cool... my 900 doesn't have that :(

Good to hear. I just got my MX-980 today and it's just the greatest thing in the world.

I think I spent the last week programming it so it was nice to actually see it loaded on the remote. All the graphics are custom, so I had to make an image for every single button.

Now, I can't wait for the PS3IR+PWR. It'll feel good to kick the controller to the curb.

Sorry to post off topic but Ultra if you don't have a personal objection please make sure to post your pics to remotecentral. Some of us non-artistic types could really use more images for the 980 and there's a decided dearth of them out there so far. Thanks.

It seems there is a problem with some of the PS3IR units I have sent out. It only effects anything shipped with the new code that supports the home key. I'm getting extra keys on any continuous key such as arrows.

So far I have determined it varies by hardware. That's why I couldn't recreate it here over the weekend. I was lucky enough to test only good hardware. Until I understand the problem I am not shipping anything out.

I read all the excitement here. I agree it will be cool to have one (that works). When I finally get them perfected and shipped that is.:D

I have added an installation guide with pictures to the Schmartz info on the forum also.

I read all the excitement here. I agree it will be cool to have one (that works). When I finally get them perfected and shipped that is.:D


If I order this week when do you think it will ship? Can I drive over and get it?? :D

I have added an installation guide with pictures to the Schmartz info on the forum also.

Wiat where is the guide? I looked at your site and I am not seeing it??

Wiat where is the guide? I looked at your site and I am not seeing it??

It is in the main thread at the bottom of the post here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12341448#post12341448

If I order this week when do you think it will ship? Can I drive over and get it?? :D


Yes! You can pick it up here. I could use the instant feedback. Although, after spending an insane amount of hours meticulously going over the code and the hardware I am certain I have a rock solid release now. (famous last words) The problem was that I needed to re-tune the code after adding all of the new features. This effected about 5% of the units that went out. Since the microprocessor is not crystal based, I have to allow for a window of variability in my tuning for the IR code packet timeouts and such. Doh!

The installation instructions for the PS3IR+PWR are attached here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12341448#post12341448). I would recommend anyone planning to order one to look at the installation document. I want everyone to know that it takes a small amount of finesse and is not a totally consumer level product yet. It's more of an... upgrade kit... yeah that's it!

So i'm guessing that when the units ship out, we will be getting confirmation emails?

Could you elaborate? Which remote and which device are you using? Could you give a listing on what doesn't work?

I am using a harmony 550, and NOTHING but ffwd and rwd work. I had to pull up the in movie menu by pressing triangle. I was kinda rough for a second I had an important phone call come in and i was trying to pause the movie in a hurry, i ended up muting the reciever and taking the call.

Of course this is wishful thinking but it would great if a Nyko Blu-Wav owner could buy a Schmartz PS3IR PWR ON/OFF accessory product that would contain the necessary wire, etc and integrate with the Nyko IR dongle.

Mike could you technologically and legally make such a product?

Why not just use the PS3IR unit as is? It does IR commands as well as power on and off. Maybe I'm missing something, but what is so special about the Nyko dongle?

MMuecke,

Where do you stand on being backlogged. I know you recently said that you're holding up current shipments due to a technical issue with hardware variances. What are you anticipating for the delay time? How much are you charging for these. I've looked at the linked installation PDF and although installation seems rather simple, I'm unclear on where you place the copper strip. I don't have to access under the black panel that houses the power on/off button on the PS3 itself? Right?

How do I go about ordering one, I'm very much interested in a IR unit that does power switching.

So I'm guessing that when the units ship out, we will be getting confirmation emails?

Yes, my system does that automatically. Finding and fixing the bug in the code added another 5-6 days to the already egregious delay. I am pretty current with the PS3IRX1 orders. I'm "just" 5 days behind and the backlog is only in double digits. It's the orders for the PS3IR+PWR that is so backed up. It's more labor intensive to make and most everyone has switched to this version instead of ordering the base model. I'm surprised. I would think that the wire and sticker would put most people off on the idea. It seems so... experimental.

I believe its because most people feel that small wire will be camouflaged by the 100 other wires already sticking out of all their equipment and nobody will probably notice.

Why not just use the PS3IR unit as is? It does IR commands as well as power on and off. Maybe I'm missing something, but what is so special about the Nyko dongle?
I already bought that one. That's all I meant. :)

hey Mike did you get the PM I sent you?

I believe its because most people feel that small wire will be camouflaged by the 100 other wires already sticking out of all their equipment and nobody will probably notice.

Exactly, the fire dept would probably shut me down if they saw the rat's nest of cabling I've got going on in and around my rack. :D

I already bought that one. That's all I meant. :)

Actually, the NYKO wouldn't have the ability to use the kit. Even though the PS3IR units are tiny. There is a ton of magic going on in there to make the buttons smooth amd fast, overcoming short sighted thinking in the way the PS3 firmware works, faking out the PS3 in general, and last but not least, the power switching.