I just posted this at remote central. It may be of interest to AVS members also.

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As we all know, PS3 uses Bluetooth for remote communication and there is no IR receiver. The upcoming remote will also be Bluetooth, so there does not appear to be an IR learn option here. Until someone makes an IR remote for this (with an IR USB receiver), there is a short term solution. This is for BLURAY DVD playing only.

1. Purchase a PS2 to USB adabter from radioshack (part # 26-729) $11.00. This dongle was originally designed to connect PS controllers to a PC.

2. Purchase a SONY original PS2 DVD remote (model schp-10150)

3. Plug the remotes IR receiver into the radioshack adapter and then plug the USB end of the adapter into any PS3 USB port.

4. If the PS3 is not line of sight, connect an IR blaster to the IR receiver (as you would a normal IR eye on any equipment).

5. Learn the IR codes direct from the PS2 remote for use in custom remote programming. Program custom remote accordingly.

That’s it. Now, this predominantly works when in the BluRay mode. This means that a client still needs to navigate to the blue ray disc and select it with the PS3 controller. However, once the disc is playing, they can have full control from their programmed remote. I said it was primarily for DVD playing, however, the 4 major PS2 buttons (Triangle / Circle / Square / X) do work at all times. Unfortunately, navigation with the 4 way pad outside of the DVD area does not work.

Tested so far:

Triangle / Circle / Square / X = All work @ all times.
L1 / L2 / R1 / R2 = Work in DVD mode only.
Select / Start = Work in DVD mode only
4 way pad = Work in DVD mode only
Enter button in middle of 4 way pad = Does not work at all
All remaining buttons (Approximately 32) = Does not work at all

*DVD mode is when the DVD is in, and the client has already selected it with the PS3 controller.

As you can buy the adapter for $11 at radioshack and a used Ps2 remote for $4.99 at GameStop, the investment is minor. While the functionality is limited, customers will appreciate not having to hold a controller and a remote while watching a movie. The reality is, suggesting a BR player is a better solution. However, the PS3 is somewhat doable, so its worthy of a post (and customers will ask for this !).

Cool. I've got one of those Radio Shack PS2 adapters so it's good to know it works with the PS3.

Awesome news. Could you also post the remotecentral link to your post or PM it to me so I can follow the thread there to ?

Thanks

That's not going to be enough once more features like interactivity are added. It already isn't enough for people like me who like to watch a lot of anime who like to occasionally switch between language and subtitle tracks.

Actually this works pretty well. I'm having a problem programing my Harmony though. For some reason the up, down, left and right buttons will not learn the commands from the PS2 remote. Even if they did, for some reason the PS2 remote is sending multiple commands for these four functions when you are in the triangle menu only. What I mean is if you push one of these buttons it will move 3 to 5 items over for each button push. For some reason it works fine in the on screen menu, but not in the Triangle menu. If anyone figures out the up, down, left and right issue with a Harmony this will be a viable option for the time being.

Edit: I was able to get the directional buttons working by forcing the Harmony to learn the codes as Raw data, but I still cannot get the button repeating for these 4 buttons to stop. I tried to adjust the repeat in the Troubleshooting section of the Harmony software, but all that did was made it so I had to double press every fuction to get them to work and it still did not stop the repeating on the arrow buttons.

This is promising. I just found my old PS2 DVD Remote and IR Sensor. I'm going to have to get the Radio Shack gizmo tonight and do some investigating!

That is good too know!

I thought this was a solution, but here is the problem:

I went to Gamestop and looked at the PS2 DVD remote controller. Looked to me that it connected to the built-in IR receiver in the PS2, and it did not include an IR receiver which plugged into the controller slots. Did I miss something??????

That is the new style. Old big PS2's didn't have IR, so you had an adaptor that you plugged into one of the controller slots.

Hey,

Just thought I would let anyone know who's reading this thread I bought the PS2 IR lighted remote for under $5 on sale at FYE. I had a gift card so I stopped in to see if they had it and they had two marked $9.99 and $14.99 but it rang up $4.99 at the register.

-Brian

p.s. FYE goes by a lot of store names too such as Coconuts, Camalot and others.

Hey,

Just thought I would let anyone know who's reading this thread I bought the PS2 IR lighted remote for under $5 on sale at FYE. I had a gift card so I stopped in to see if they had it and they had two marked $9.99 and $14.99 but it rang up $4.99 at the register.

-Brian

p.s. FYE goes by a lot of store names too such as Coconuts, Camalot and others.


Did it include the ir reciever?

Yes. And a fairly nice looking lighted remote (though, I'll use my Harmony.)


-Brian

I thought I would put up a pic of the one I found cheap.

(It even looks pretty nice.)

(I hope it's going to work.)

Actually this works pretty well. I'm having a problem programing my Harmony though. For some reason the up, down, left and right buttons will not learn the commands from the PS2 remote. Even if they did, for some reason the PS2 remote is sending multiple commands for these four functions when you are in the triangle menu only. What I mean is if you push one of these buttons it will move 3 to 5 items over for each button push. For some reason it works fine in the on screen menu, but not in the Triangle menu. If anyone figures out the up, down, left and right issue with a Harmony this will be a viable option for the time being.

Edit: I was able to get the directional buttons working by forcing the Harmony to learn the codes as Raw data, but I still cannot get the button repeating for these 4 buttons to stop. I tried to adjust the repeat in the Troubleshooting section of the Harmony software, but all that did was made it so I had to double press every fuction to get them to work and it still did not stop the repeating on the arrow buttons.

Bob,

You shouldn't need to learn the commands for this -- the PS2 DVD remote commands are already in the Harmony system, so you just need to add a "Game Console (With DVD)" device, and use either "PS2" or "PSTwo" for the model number. ("PS2" is the old, fat console that you've got the remote for, and "PSTwo" is the slimline version with the integrated IR receiver, but the commands should be mostly the same.)

Bob I had the same problem as you with my Harmony 880 remote. Could only get it to work when sent as raw and then it skipped several times. The solution I found was to re program the data again as raw. The second time I did this the Harmony worked perfectly and moved one space at a time. Hope this helps.

Adam

Adam, tried it but it still dosen't work. What's wierd is that in the On Screen Menu and Top Menu it moves once per click. It's only when I hit the triangle button to access things like how much time is left/elapsed that the button skips multiple times. What's confusing is that the original PS2 remote is doing this as well, but unlike the Harmony which is skipping 5 spaces the PS2 remote is only skipping 2, if that makes any sense. I don't know what's going on, but if someone has a solution in the Harmony database, I'm all ears.

Dixie, unfortunately it seems that the PS3 will only respond to the commands from the remote that came with the IR adapter. I can program these to my Harmony, but if I try a code that is in the Harmony database nothing works. If tried to set it up as a game console with DVD as a PS2, PlayStation 2 and Playstation 2 nothing worked. These codes work fine on my slimline PS2 but they don't work on the PS3.

Dixie, unfortunately it seems that the PS3 will only respond to the commands from the remote that came with the IR adapter. I can program these to my Harmony, but if I try a code that is in the Harmony database nothing works. If tried to set it up as a game console with DVD as a PS2, PlayStation 2 and Playstation 2 nothing worked. These codes work fine on my slimline PS2 but they don't work on the PS3.
That's unfortunate -- I just realized that it might work if you had the official Sony PS2 DVD remote and receiver, but if your receiver is for a third-party remote, then it probably has its own unique IR codes used between the remote and receiver. Ah, well.

bob13654, did you try changing the number of repeats in the Harmony interface? I would try setting it to 1 or 2 repeats and see if that fixes it.

Dixie I have the official PS2 remote and IR receiver, but for some reason the original remote is jumping just like the Harmony.

toker. Yeah I tried that, but what happened is that I had to double push Play, Rew etc... to get those commands to go through and the Triangle menu was still jumping multiple times, so that was a no go.

So to boil this down, all one needs to do is get the IR dongle, the adapter from PS2 to USB, plug it into the PS3 and then use the PS2 codes from Harmony. Insteresting, I might actually still have that IR thingy around somehwere from my gen 1 PS2. Either that or wiat for the inevitable PS3 Harmony. I see X Box has one so it's only a matter of time.........

Hopefully this solution will work for my Harmony. Should get it in a couple of days. The downside is that my 880 may be going bad. Buttons are sticking. I may have to repurchase the 720. :(

Unfortunately, for those of us with an IR remote without a PS2 remote, I think the best option is to wait for and pay the extra $10 (over the cost of buying the PS2 set-up) for the PS3 remote for full functionality.

Hopefully, Harmony or someone else is working on a Bluetooth and IR universal remote.

Interestingly, the following comment from vidgame.net reminded me that my OE Sony PS2 DVD remote w/ IR dongle came with a firmware upgrade disc!... I'm gonna have to dig up that old disc I bet!

The Sony PS2 DVD remote that was released in 2002, came with a disc to update the PS2's DVD drivers. The data must be saved on a PS2 memory card and would allow access to certain functions of the DVDs not previously offered on the PS2 console. This data takes up about 2mB. The data can be erased and redownloaded later.

Could it be that this "missing disc" [for your purposes] is your fly in the ointment...?

pic below from a currently on-going eBay auctioneer. I'm going to look for my disc...but Lord its been years since that one-time install on my ol' PS2... :(

http://home.nycap.rr.com/suepohlftpspace/ps2remotewdisk.jpg

...then again...what if the upgrade disc hoses up my purdy PS3.... :o

I acquired the original PS2 DVD remote and the Radio Shack dongle referred to above. {I spent some time using a third party PS2 DVD remote, but it had too few buttons....and the codes are different IR signals!!} I am using the Harmony 659 remote.

I identified the Sony PS2 remote by supplying several of the button presses, such as Play, but note that this is NOT the "Play" command for the PS3!! Once identified, the Harmony library had many many commands already known, such as circle, triangle, R1, L2, etc. But there were FIVE which didn't seem to work correctly, even when I learned them in "training mode'; I had to use RAW learning for the four directional arrows and the key labeled SELECT.

I then custom mapped Harmony buttons to PS3 SIXAXIS commands as follows:

Harmony PS3
4 directions 4 directions
Play & Pause Start
Info Select
CH+/CH- R1, L1
Guide & Menu triangle
Enter & Select X
Exit & Stop circle
FF, REW R2, L2
This managed to make just about all the key commands functional, with the notable exception of getting to the Title Menu. I navigate via the triangle menu to do that, as well as for changing audio and subtitle choices.

...then again...what if the upgrade disc hoses up my purdy PS3.... :o

Amen! No way would the patch code for the PS2 work on the PS3, except possibly to FuBar the system. I wouldn't try this if I were you.....

You can get the actual PS3 remote from EB Games for less than $25.

Can you detail exact ally what you did? My Harmony 880 shows up today, and I just found my old PS2 DVD remote and IR sensor. I'm planning to stop at RatShack and get the adapter today as well.

Thanks!

I acquired the original PS2 DVD remote and the Radio Shack dongle referred to above. {I spent some time using a third party PS2 DVD remote, but it had too few buttons....and the codes are different IR signals!!} I am using the Harmony 659 remote.

I identified the Sony PS2 remote by supplying several of the button presses, such as Play, but note that this is NOT the "Play" command for the PS3!! Once identified, the Harmony library had many many commands already known, such as circle, triangle, R1, L2, etc. But there were FIVE which didn't seem to work correctly, even when I learned them in "training mode'; I had to use RAW learning for the four directional arrows and the key labeled SELECT.

I then custom mapped Harmony buttons to PS3 SIXAXIS commands as follows:

Harmony PS3
4 directions 4 directions
Play & Pause Start
Info Select
CH+/CH- R1, L1
Guide & Menu triangle
Enter & Select X
Exit & Stop circle
FF, REW R2, L2
This managed to make just about all the key commands functional, with the notable exception of getting to the Title Menu. I navigate via the triangle menu to do that, as well as for changing audio and subtitle choices.

You'll have setup instructions with your 880 (to set up much more important hardware than our PS3, believe me ;)). Follow those instructions...first.

With those instructions followed, among other things you will have set up a Harmony web account. When you're ready to 'teach' the 880 your PS2 DVD remote buttons, you'll log back onto that Harmony web account. Select "Home." Then Add New Device. Add Gaming Device. Gaming Device with DVD. Sony Brand. PS2 or PStwo depending on the model number of your PS2 that you insert when prompted.

But again, as outlined in this thread. What the 880 'learns' through this effort is minimalistic, at best (presently...;)?).

- Dave

PS. The adapter and the IR dongle does not come into play during the 'learning' process. You simply need that inserted into each other & then into a USB port on the front of the PS3 (line of sight remember!) for the 'learned' 880 to actuate its commands during blu-ray playback.

For some reason the directional buttons don't work at all for me - any one else have this problem??

For some reason the directional buttons don't work at all for me - any one else have this problem??

As mentioned in my previous post, I had to learn (in RAW mode) the four directional keys and Select. Have you tried that?

Does anyone know if you could skip the ps2 and radio shack adapters and use a generic UZBE IR dongle? I have a Harmony 880 so I'll just use the PS2 remote codes.

Nevermind, it won't work... hopefully USB IR support will be included in a future update. It would be a little more elegant solution.

MrSniffer:

Thank you for your instructions on how to set up the Harmony 880 / PS2 commands for the PS3. It all works perfectly for me with the exception of the directional keys. I have twice gone through "learn RAW commands" with no success. Do you have any suggestions that may make the RAW commands work (e.g. hold the key down longer or shorter, etc.)?

Whenever the IR dongle is connected via usb my controller is automatically assigned to port 3 and I can't change it. Does anyon else have this problem?

I am able to get the directional keys and select working using raw mode, but I'm getting sluggish response when I press those keys. Is this happening for anyone else? Any fix? Adjusting the key response times hasn't worked for me so far.

I am able to get the directional keys and select working using raw mode, but I'm getting sluggish response when I press those keys. Is this happening for anyone else? Any fix? Adjusting the key response times hasn't worked for me so far.

That's odd. Mine is the opposite. I get too many repeats. I even used the Harmony software to adjust the repeats (took it all the way down to zero) and it didn't help. One button press of the directional pad can scroll through an entire line on the pop up menu.

thanks to the OP for this. I originally bought the Sony BD remote, and found it klunky (and NO BACKLIGHT!!!) and everything was so perfect originally with just one remote (Harmony 880)....I found it a nuisance with multiple remotes again.

So I returned the Sony BD remote ($25) and bought the two adapters mentioned above, and now can use the Harmony again! (it only cost me $11 (USB adapter) + $3 (used PS3 remote) = $14!!!) :)

thanks to the OP for this. I originally bought the Sony BD remote, and found it klunky (and NO BACKLIGHT!!!) and everything was so perfect originally with just one remote (Harmony 880)....I found it a nuisance with multiple remotes again.

So I returned the Sony BD remote ($25) and bought the two adapters mentioned above, and now can use the Harmony again! (it only cost me $11 (USB adapter) + $3 (used PS3 remote) = $14!!!) :)

I use the Harmony, but trying to explain to my wife how to get to the menu is beyond my teaching skills. So I'd like to have a BD remote as well. Where did you get (and return) yours?

Mr Sniffer,....

If the pS3 is on then press the power button for 3 seconds and it will turn off.

Then,.. put a movie into the slot and it will boot up in the video player with the IR support working.

No menus to navigate (unless the dvd boots to it's own menu.)


-Brian

Dixie I have the official PS2 remote and IR receiver, but for some reason the original remote is jumping just like the Harmony.

toker. Yeah I tried that, but what happened is that I had to double push Play, Rew etc... to get those commands to go through and the Triangle menu was still jumping multiple times, so that was a no go.


Bob-
did you ever figure this double jumping issue out yet? (or anyone?) thx

... For some reason the up, down, left and right buttons will not learn the commands from the PS2 remote. ...

Edit: I was able to get the directional buttons working by forcing the Harmony to learn the codes as Raw data...


For some reason I can't get my Harmony 880 to learn the Arrows either...
all the other basic commands "learned" fine though-

what exactly do you mean by "raw data" ? Do you mean manually learning the IR signal by pressing the PS2 remote into the Harmony receiver (which I tried)?

I bought a used SCPH-10171 with IR receiver dongle on eBay, and got the adapter from Radio Shack. I tried teaching the remote's commands to my MX-850 remote, but few work on the SCPH-1071 or the MX-850 (mainly the geometric shapes and "x", and R1, R2, L1, L2.

My SCPH-1071 came with a CD and an instruction book that tells how to install "the DVD Player on a memory card (8 MB) (for PlayStation 2)"; should I do this? Will it mess up my PS3?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. TIA.

Jim

For some reason I can't get my Harmony 880 to learn the Arrows either...
all the other basic commands "learned" fine though-

what exactly do you mean by "raw data" ? Do you mean manually learning the IR signal by pressing the PS2 remote into the Harmony receiver (which I tried)?

I have the same problem. All other commands work, Play / Pause, Enter / Select, Info, Menu, Guide, Exit, Fast Forward, Rewind. But I can't get the directional keys to work. HELP......

The PS2 IR is also getting assigned to player 1. So when I turn on a PS3 controller, the PS3 controller is assigned "Controller 2", this wouldn't be a problem but when I start a game (Resistance) the PS3 controller does not work. I have to unplug the PS2 IR and then assign the PS3 Controller to Controller 1. How do you assign the PS2 IR to controller 3?

Thanks,
Smitty

I have the same problem. All other commands work, Play / Pause, Enter / Select, Info, Menu, Guide, Exit, Fast Forward, Rewind. But I can't get the directional keys to work. HELP......

The PS2 IR is also getting assigned to player 1. So when I turn on a PS3 controller, the PS3 controller is assigned "Controller 2", this wouldn't be a problem but when I start a game (Resistance) the PS3 controller does not work. I have to unplug the PS2 IR and then assign the PS3 Controller to Controller 1. How do you assign the PS2 IR to controller 3?

Thanks,
Smitty

I have the same issue. My controller always gets assigned to "3".

Do you have to install the drivers for the dongle or will it just be recognized by the PS3

You still can't power on/off the PS3 via IR, correct?

Do you have to install the drivers for the dongle or will it just be recognized by the PS3

Just play and play.

You still can't power on/off the PS3 via IR, correct?

Correct.

Were there any blutooth universal remotes unveiled at CES? I was looking at getting the Harmony 1000, but I'd rather have a remote that works easily with the PS3.

I think Logitech's response was that they are "looking into it."

The PS2 IR is also getting assigned to player 1. So when I turn on a PS3 controller, the PS3 controller is assigned "Controller 2", this wouldn't be a problem but when I start a game (Resistance) the PS3 controller does not work. I have to unplug the PS2 IR and then assign the PS3 Controller to Controller 1. How do you assign the PS2 IR to controller 3?.............I have the same issue. My controller always gets assigned to "3".

I just figured out that I don't have to disconnect the PS2 IR to play games, I just have to hold down the PS button on the PS3 controller after the game is loaded, once the screen comes up, change the "Assign Controller Ports" to 1. I've tested it with Ridge Racer 7 and Resistance, so I'm sure it will work on all games.

Hope this helps.

I would have paid an extra $10 for my PS3 if it included a built-in IR port. It makes no sense to me why Sony didn't design this feature into the PS3.

Sure there are workarounds, but I still haven't found one that powers the PS3 on/off. :mad:

Sony didn't include an IR port so that we all had to shell out the additional money for their new remote. I find it hard to believe that blue-ray disc will require bluetooth to take advantage of anything. It is still shortsighted IMHO. Of course, I got the old adaptor to work with my Harmony remote. I hate when they nickle and dime us like this.

Were there any blutooth universal remotes unveiled at CES? I was looking at getting the Harmony 1000, but I'd rather have a remote that works easily with the PS3.

Only thing I've found so far is a Bluetooth remote built for MS Windows Vista SideShow features. I'm not sure if they will allow programing for "other" devices beside the PC... but one of the articles mentions a "Universal" remote model which indicates that you can control a TV as well... so there is hope. This one comes out in April '07.

http://www.krunker.com/2007/01/13/ricavision-windows-vista-remote-controls/

http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/3389/ricavision_unveils_vista

When you plug the IR receiver in via the Radio Shack adapter, does a USB device icon or anything show up in the XMB? When I plug other USB devices in, an icon appears; but I get nothing on the screen when I plug the RS adapter/IR receiver combo in.

Only thing I've found so far is a Bluetooth remote built for MS Windows Vista SideShow features. I'm not sure if they will allow programing for "other" devices beside the PC... but one of the articles mentions a "Universal" remote model which indicates that you can control a TV as well... so there is hope. This one comes out in April '07.

http://www.krunker.com/2007/01/13/ricavision-windows-vista-remote-controls/

http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/3389/ricavision_unveils_vista

That is good news. I'm hoping there will be a hack or something for the vista remote so I won't have to wait any longer.

Were there any blutooth universal remotes unveiled at CES? I was looking at getting the Harmony 1000, but I'd rather have a remote that works easily with the PS3.

I talked to Logitech guy at CES about it, and his response was that they are not going to support PS3 because they use different frequency (not compatible with Bluetooth) in they radio-wave based remotes. Hopefully, they will change they mind.

I think Logitech's response was that they are "looking into it."
From Gizmodo (Thursday, Jan. 4th):

Leave it to the folks at Logitech to usher in the PS3's first dedicated wireless keyboard. The $79 Cordless MediaBoard is a full fledged keyboard with a built-in touch pad that lets you navigate through menus and browse through the Internet on your PS3 PC style. It works up to 30 feet away from your console and uses RF technology instead of the PS3's built-in Bluetooth (it comes with a USB dongle). As a Logitech fan, it's good to see the company rolling out its line of PS3 accessories. The MediaBoard will be out next month. – Louis Ramirez


So...if Logitech has a USB dongle to communicate between PS3 and its keyboard via RF, can we assume that something is in the works to allow the Harmony remotes (i.e., 880 and 1000 w/ RF capabilities), to also work w/ PS3 via RF?

From Gizmodo (Thursday, Jan. 4th):

Leave it to the folks at Logitech to usher in the PS3's first dedicated wireless keyboard. The $79 Cordless MediaBoard is a full fledged keyboard with a built-in touch pad that lets you navigate through menus and browse through the Internet on your PS3 PC style. It works up to 30 feet away from your console and uses RF technology instead of the PS3's built-in Bluetooth (it comes with a USB dongle). As a Logitech fan, it's good to see the company rolling out its line of PS3 accessories. The MediaBoard will be out next month. – Louis Ramirez


So...if Logitech has a USB dongle to communicate between PS3 and its keyboard via RF, can we assume that something is in the works to allow the Harmony remotes (i.e., 880 and 1000 w/ RF capabilities), to also work w/ PS3 via RF?

That's what I'm hoping for.

Does anybody know if Sony has plans to make a USB IR dongle and a IR remote that will give us full control of the PS3 (and not the limited control using the PS2 remote)?

IMHO, Sony has miss the boat on providing IR control.

Sincerely,
snooktarpon

Seems like to much trouble just to play a dang movie don't you all think?

Logitech's MediaBoard doesn't appear to have PS3 buttons (e.g., triangle, etc.). It just looks like a generic keyboard. What makes it PS3 specific?

Bob-
did you ever figure this double jumping issue out yet? (or anyone?) thx


Sorry for the late response, been out of town. Yes I did finally fix the jumping issue, but I haven't figured it out. Unfortunately it was a matter of trial and error where I just sat in front of my TV with my laptop and just forced the remote to learn the commands over and over until they finally work. If you do it enough times, eventually the damn thing will send a code to the Harmony that dosen't cause it to jump on the screen.

To answer your other question. When you go into the screen to learn commands, there is an advanced mode option (can't remember what they call it, but there is a button on the bottom of that screen that will take you to the advanced mode). In this screen you can select to learn command as raw data. That's the option you need as it was the only way for my Harmony to learn the directional buttons.

I used the dongle from Radio Shack ($11) and a used GameStop remote ($3), learned the codes into my pronto, customized the buttons, and it works flawlessly. It would be nice if they did build something PS3 specific but for the interim this works like a charm. The only item my setup is lacking are the PS specific buttons (triangle, square, etc..) as the remote I found doesn't have those. I'm going to source an original PS2 w/IR in the near term but for now I have full control over the movies which is primarily what I wanted it for. Good cheap alternative!!

What we need is a Harmony 1000 that will do RF, Bluetooth and IR. I hope Logitech is working on this already. :)

I have not been successful with this so far. I have purchased the radioshack adapter, I'm using an original Sony brand remote and ir dongle, But with now success. I even point the original Sony ir remote at the dongle when playing a movie and not a single button works. Is there some type of configuration that I need to do? I have the adapter plugged in to the first usb on the front. I have it plugged in from startup. The ps3 was updated today.

Not sure why this isn't working for you. It should be plug and play and I too have mine in USB 1. Not trying to be a smart a$$ but did you check the batteries in the remote? If it's been sitting for awhile they may need to be refreshed. Other than that check to ensure everything is seated completely. If it still isn't working, you may have a faulty remote or IR receiver. You could remedy the remote issue by downloading the IR codes from remote central and import them into your universal and try that. If you are still having issues, I'd go to Gamestop and get a new remote/ir.

I bought a "Pega PS2 controller to PS3 USB adapter" and a completely generic Chinese PS2 "Slim DVD Remote Control" with IR receiver, and they seem to work about as well as the official Sony remote and Radio Shack adapter (no Power on, no eject, directional keys work in DVD mode, shape keys always work, etc.). For reference/pictures, you view them on eBay:
http://cgi.*********/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180085403613
http://cgi.*********/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140085606377

[Those are supposed to be links to cgi DOT ebay DOT com.]

I'm going to try to program my Harmony with this remote's codes later this week, since I don't think they are the same as the Sony remote.

I agree with everyone else that Sony or a third party should create a small IR adapter for the PS3 supporting all of the BR remote functions. The adapter, IR dongle, and limitations of the PS2 remote codes just aren't very elegant when applied to a PS3.

There is a problem with this solution that the PS3 always assigns the IR dongle to be "controller #1", in case that is an issue for people.

I went out and bought the odds and ends that are needed to make my PS3 IR friendly with my HTM MX-500 learning remote. Everything worked according to the plan EXCEPT the MX-500 refuses to learn the arrow keys. I've tried over and over and I've also tried learning them to various points on the MX-500...

Any thoughts as to what the issue might be?

Lee, I had the exact same issue programming into my Pronto. What I did was go to remote central, download several of the files that had the PS2 file included and tried each one till I found one that worked. I then copied the files into mine and it now works flawlessly.

I went out and bought the odds and ends that are needed to make my PS3 IR friendly with my HTM MX-500 learning remote. Everything worked according to the plan EXCEPT the MX-500 refuses to learn the arrow keys. I've tried over and over and I've also tried learning them to various points on the MX-500...

Any thoughts as to what the issue might be?My Mx-500 wouldn't learn the left & right arrow keys. This link has a method about half way down called "Duck Blind". It worked for me and now I have them programmed. My MX-500 liked to use the "Duck Blind" method with a DVD case and the remotes close together. http://www.remotecentral.com/features/irtips.htm

Well the "blind duck" method was a partial success...

The left and right arrows have been learned but for the life of me I can not get it to learn the up and down arrows.

All other suggestions welcome.

I encountered the same problem as others with regards to being unable to initially get the directional arrow keys programmed to work properly on a Harmony 880 remote control. Thanks to all the posts here I was able to get the remote to learn these keys in "Raw" mode. It's working great. Picked up a used PS2 remote with IR receiver from EB Games for $5 and adapter from Radio Shack for $11. I had a little effort figuring out how to program in raw mode however. For others that might read this you need to get into the device screen where it allows you to learn remote commands from your old remote control device. At the very bottom of the screen to learn the keys is an option button labeled "Custom". Select custom then you'll see a new screen come up that has a feature labeled "Learn Raw ...".

I do have one question that I was hoping someone might have an answer. Anybody know how to remap keys to have one key on the remote programmed to perform two independent actions across two devices. I previously had my standard DVD player setup so that when I pressed the PLAY button it played the DVD but also dimmed the lights on my Grafik Eye. Since the std function of the play button on the remote already had the play function internally set all I had to do was essentially program the key to add an action to select a lighting scene on the Grafik Eye device. Since I've remapped the PLAY key now for the PS3 to PLAY I'm not sure how to set the same key to also add a second function to control the Grafik Eye. Anybody know if this is possible?

Thought I would sign up and offer some help. I, too had the "direction button" problem (namely, they wouldn't do anything). I decided to try and fix the problem. I dug out the old PS2 remote, and began to experiment. I found that it would control the menus, but sporadically. I tried to learn the commands as raw, but had no luck. The Harmony interface told me that it learned the commands, but nothing would happen when I tried the direction buttons on my 880. Time to try again. This time, I put some FRESH batteries in the PS2 remote - it was controlling the menus perfectly. Went through the learning/programming successfully, and tried out the 880. Had the same problems others reportes - one push of the button would result in the selected icons scrolling all the way across. I tried setting the repeats lower. No luck. I grabbed the PS2 remote to see how it worked. I found that one quick push would give me the next icon, while holding the button for anything longer than a split second would duplicate the scrolling the 880 was giving me. Hmmmmm - I think I am on to something! Went back to learn the commands again, this time pressing and releasing the direction buttons on the PS2 VERY QUICKLY! I didn't change the repeats. Did the update, and tested. Result: the 880 now controls all menu functions perfectly. I also mapped "circle" to the "OK" button to use in the menus.

To sum up:
1. Use fresh batteries in the PS2 remote
2. Learn the direction commands as RAW
3. Press and release the direction buttons VERY QUICKLY when learning the commands (practice the time using the PS2 controller in the BD PS3 menus)

Hope this helps some people out... ;)
BTW, great forum.

So...if Logitech has a USB dongle to communicate between PS3 and its keyboard via RF, can we assume that something is in the works to allow the Harmony remotes (i.e., 880 and 1000 w/ RF capabilities), to also work w/ PS3 via RF?
The USB dongle is obviously appearing to the PS3 *as* a keyboard (like plugging in a USB keyboard to the USB port). The dongle has the firmware necessary to convert the RF codes received from the actual keyboard into USB-HID-specification keyboard commands that any USB-keyboard-capable device (PC, PS3, etc) would be able to understand.

It wouldn't take much on Sony's part to make an update that allows USB IR transceivers to be plugged in, and then accept certain remote codes (most likely the PS2 remote's IR codes, or a new, yet-to-be-created PS3-specific remote's codes). That would remove the need for the (IMHO) hackish connection involving a PS2-to-USB adapter. What would be even nicer is just a dongle about the size of a flash drive that has an IR window on the end.

It would also be possible to allow the USB port to turn the PS3 on and off. I don't think it actually turns off, just goes into a deep power save mode. There are ACPI standards that allow the USB devices to wake the machine from power save mode, and obviously turning it off should be even more simple. Just keep in mind that the PS3 is nothing but a specialized computer (you can install Linux on it, for example). It all just comes down to Sony not releasing that capability, when it is very much possible to do.

I agree with everyone else that this is would definitely be useful and it sucks that Sony is screwing us out of any such capability. And it is definitely something that Sony could *easily* add, since it can download automatic updates from the company. All they need is a driver. If they really wanted to make their customers happy, they'd allow at least a certain subset of currently-marketed USB IR dongles, and then create a configuration interface that allows the PS3 to learn IR codes from another remote and assign those buttons to specific features of the interface. It's all possible, they just want to take your money for the bluetooth remote. Which is pretty sad considering how much money their customers have paid for the PS3 to begin with :(

If their only intention is to take your money for a bluetooth remote, then that explains the controller as well. I mean, it's bluetooth. How dare they? They could have made it Infrared. Like half of the Wii-mote. Has anyone considered a bluetooth universal remote that converts signals to IR using blasters for all your old antique equipment?

Well the "blind duck" method was a partial success...

The left and right arrows have been learned but for the life of me I can not get it to learn the up and down arrows.

All other suggestions welcome.MX-500 users give this a try it worked for me to get the arrow keys to work.

1)hold the arrow key(up,down,left,right) on the sony remote and don't release it.
2)get the MX-500 is in "ready" mode and keep pushing the arrow key on the mx-500 real quick (it will just keep displaying "ready") while holding the arrow key on the sony(remember don't release the sony arrow key).
3)then after about 10 quck pushes on the mx-500 release the mx-500 key and it will display "good".

This worked for all my arrow keys.

Just a quick update...
i was finally able to learn the remaining arrows by borrowing another PS2 remote from a friend at work. With this remote the two other arrow keys learned without any additional hassle. I'm not sure what the difference was between the two PS2 remotes but it did the trick.

Thanks to everyone for their kind suggestions and assistance.

Regards,
Lee

My memory isn't what it used to be but..

I bought the PS2 remote for my PS2 a looong time ago before I bought a stand alone DVD player. I remember when I finally bought my standalone Sony DVD player I could have sworn that my PS2 remote actually worked for my Sony DVD when it came to using the navigation buttons as well with play, pause etc etc. Sony from my understanding is really good about using the same codes/remotes for all of thier TV's and of course DVD players. This I believe is also true about the PS2 remote as well.

Since I sold my PS2 and remote a long time ago and don't own a PS3 maybe someone can test it out? Just program your universal remote for a Sony DVD player since you have a PS2 IR dongle in and see what happens?


Dregun

Just found a quick article that might shed some light on it. But unfortunately cannot post links just yet.

The article I found was on gaming age and was a review of the PS2 remote.

When I had the remote I had to install a driver like it says in this article, I don't think its a firmware update just the information on how to decode what is being sent to the IR receiver.

Dregun

If you wanted to use IR commands to navigate the PS3 menu outside of the movie player, couldn't one just buy an IR keyboard, plug in the USB dongle and learn the keyboard codes, and then have a little more functionality to control the PS3?

If you wanted to use IR commands to navigate the PS3 menu outside of the movie player, couldn't one just buy an IR keyboard, plug in the USB dongle and learn the keyboard codes, and then have a little more functionality to control the PS3?

The idea is to integrate PS3 functionality with the rest of one's IR based home theater (i.e. universal remotes, repeaters, macros etc...). There is already a PS3 remote, it just isn't IR which makes it an odd man out in the home theater world.

What I meant was the PS2 remote solution doesn't function in the PS3 XMB, while the keyboard solution would. And the keyboard maps almost all of the controller buttons. and if you had an IR keyboard, you could have your Universal Remote learn those IR signals from the keyboard, and send them to the keyboard's USB dongle attached to the PS3. You still can't turn the unit on/off unfortunately, but you can control the PS3 a little more with your universal remote, including the music and photo functions.

Actually I was also thinking, granted it might be extreme, that I might try to build a mechanical device that sits on the PS3 that I can trigger via IR to turn it on and off (or alternatively open the ps3 panel and attach a trigger electronically on the inside of the PS3), and therefore I'd be all set along with the keyboard solution. Might be fun, too.

Actually I was also thinking, granted it might be extreme, that I might try to build a mechanical device that sits on the PS3 that I can trigger via IR to turn it on and off (or alternatively open the ps3 panel and attach a trigger electronically on the inside of the PS3), and therefore I'd be all set along with the keyboard solution. Might be fun, too.

Ah, I see where you were going with that.

For on/off you might check out the Xir Remote mod for the original Xbox. This is used to provide on/off for the remote (generally people with modded boxes using it for Xbox Media Center and streaming files). They have firmware, programmers, diagrams, kits and customization stuff. If nothing else it may give you some ideas. http://xir.us/

Thanks for the tip. I think, however, I have some stuff lying around from an old project I did in school, and also think I have a good circuit design of my own that should work, but who knows, its been so long since I've done any circuit design. I found one problem with using a mechanical device (I want to avoid opening the PS3 if possible), in that the front panel of the PS3 doesn't work by tactile force, but rather I believe works like a touch pad sensing a change in capacitance. This could work in my favor if I can build a circuit that just has a wire touching the front panel and have that be switched by either a relay or a transistor to some triggering load. I can throw that load onto a 555 timer output and hopefully use that to turn the PS3 on and off.

I also mapped "circle" to the "OK" button to use in the menus.Jay, what did you gain from this? "Circle" is used to stop BD playback. Thanks.

Jay, what did you gain from this? "Circle" is used to stop BD playback. Thanks.

Perhaps I have my mapping mixed up going from memory. What button on the PS2 remote "selects" things? That is what I would have mapped to the OK button on the 880. I use "info" to bring up the BD menu while watching a movie, the arrow keys to scroll, and the OK button in the middle of the arrows to select that icon. For example, the "i+" icon that brings up the data about the MPEG, the audio and the time remaining.

Let me know if you want me to double check.

The most important thing is learning the correct commands from the original remote. As I said before, I found the mapping from Remote Central to be incorrect, and the pre-loaded codes in the Harmony database didn't work either.

Since my long post above, I am happy to report that my 880 is working perfectly, and I never have to use my PS3 controller for movies. I also deleted other users on my PS3, so inserting a BD or DVD causes the PS3 to turn on, and go directly to the movie's menu screen, bypassing any need to even touch the controller.

I hope this helps,
Jason.

Perhaps I have my mapping mixed up going from memory. What button on the PS2 remote "selects" things? That is what I would have mapped to the OK button on the 880. I use "info" to bring up the BD menu while watching a movie, the arrow keys to scroll, and the OK button in the middle of the arrows to select that icon. For example, the "i+" icon that brings up the data about the MPEG, the audio and the time remaining.

Let me know if you want me to double check.

The most important thing is learning the correct commands from the original remote. As I said before, I found the mapping from Remote Central to be incorrect, and the pre-loaded codes in the Harmony database didn't work either.

Since my long post above, I am happy to report that my 880 is working perfectly, and I never have to use my PS3 controller for movies. I also deleted other users on my PS3, so inserting a BD or DVD causes the PS3 to turn on, and go directly to the movie's menu screen, bypassing any need to even touch the controller.

I hope this helps,
Jason.The button I use to say "OK" is the 'x'. I use it to select.

The power button (or PS3 controller) still needs to be touched to turn-off the PS3 when you are finished with a movie, though, right?

I tried learning in raw my directional buttons several times. They do work **IF** I select a given directional button very deliberately. If I try to push a button in quick succession, then it skips several selections. I've tried various settings for repeating (0-5, or something like that), and also for inter-key settings (0 milliseconds to default 500 milliseconds). I can't find a combination of settings that allows me to hit a directional arrow "with enthusiasm" without skipping. Any suggestions?

The button I use to say "OK" is the 'x'. I use it to select.

The power button (or PS3 controller) still needs to be touched to turn-off the PS3 when you are finished with a movie, though, right?

I tried learning in raw my directional buttons several times. They do work **IF** I select a given directional button very deliberately. If I try to push a button in quick succession, then it skips several selections. I've tried various settings for repeating (0-5, or something like that), and also for inter-key settings (0 milliseconds to default 500 milliseconds). I can't find a combination of settings that allows me to hit a directional arrow "with enthusiasm" without skipping. Any suggestions?

Yes, you still have to turn it off manually (or use the controller). I just hit "off" the next time I walk by.

Check my long post above for how I got the buttons to work for me. It took a couple of hours, and a few tries at learning RAW, but they work perfectly.

Check my long post above for how I got the buttons to work for me. It took a couple of hours, and a few tries at learning RAW, but they work perfectly.I did, in detail. Thank you for posting that. What I am specifically looking for are 2 PS3 device settings:

1) inter-key delay, measured in milliseconds
2) there is another device setting found under "troubleshooting", that ranges from 0-5. It is described as:

"If your device responds too slowly, or not at all when you press a button on the remote, increase the value to 4 or 5. If your device responds too quickly, lower the value to 2, 1 or 0."

For these 2 elements, what are your settings?

I did, in detail. Thank you for posting that. What I am specifically looking for are 2 PS3 device settings:

1) inter-key delay, measured in milliseconds
2) there is another device setting found under "troubleshooting", that ranges from 0-5. It is described as:

"If your device responds too slowly, or not at all when you press a button on the remote, increase the value to 4 or 5. If your device responds too quickly, lower the value to 2, 1 or 0."

For these 2 elements, what are your settings?

1. Interkey: 500ms
2. set at 3

I left these at factory settings once I had learned the commands in RAW correctly.
HTH

Jason.

1. Interkey: 500ms
2. set at 3

I left these at factory settings once I had learned the commands in RAW correctly.
HTH

Jason.Thanks, I'll try these settings. Mine works as it is, but does skip a bit. Not perfect, but it does work.

Thanks, I'll try these settings. Mine works as it is, but does skip a bit. Not perfect, but it does work.

The key for me to stop the skipping was to press and release the buttons on the original PS2 remote really quickly when learning. I would double check the delays, then relearn.

I have been searching for a way so that I can use a standard universal IR remote to control the PS3 functions. Since I have the requisite USB skills, I finally decided to build my own solution. I made a small USB stick that receives Sony IR codes and puts out USB HID keyboard packets. It's a whopping 1.2" x 0.6" in size. And works great! Unfortunately, Sony doesn't seem to support USB remote wakeup or at least I haven't figured out how to make it work yet. This means that you can't turn on the PS3 via IR yet. There is no mapping for the PS button either. But I can map all of the other controller keys to the universal IR remote. It's still a work in progress though as I don't have a plastic cover yet.

Anyway, I happened to find this thread a while back in my search and wanted to see if there is still any interest in a solution of this sort. Like, is anybody interested in buying one? I was thinking of selling them for about $40 at first until the volume goes up. If anyone is interested, I guess I can put up an EBAY storefront or something. I have 25 units ready and parts for about 2000 more when I get more PCBs. I'm not really sure how to go forward from here but, I think there is a small niche market of videophiles with a similar need for a solution like this. I apologize if this post is somewhat of a sales pitch but, I don't see any better way to reach other people that have this problem.

I have been searching for a way so that I can use a standard universal IR remote to control the PS3 functions. Since I have the requisite USB skills, I finally decided to build my own solution. I made a small USB stick that receives Sony IR codes and puts out USB HID keyboard packets. It's a whopping 1.2" x 0.6" in size. And works great! Unfortunately, Sony doesn't seem to support USB remote wakeup or at least I haven't figured out how to make it work yet. This means that you can't turn on the PS3 via IR yet. There is no mapping for the PS button either. But I can map all of the other controller keys to the universal IR remote. It's still a work in progress though as I don't have a plastic cover yet.

Anyway, I happened to find this thread a while back in my search and wanted to see if there is still any interest in a solution of this sort. Like, is anybody interested in buying one? I was thinking of selling them for about $40 at first until the volume goes up. If anyone is interested, I guess I can put up an EBAY storefront or something. I have 25 units ready and parts for about 2000 more when I get more PCBs. I'm not really sure how to go forward from here but, I think there is a small niche market of videophiles with a similar need for a solution like this. I apologize if this post is somewhat of a sales pitch but, I don't see any better way to reach other people that have this problem.

I'd be interested but only if you can solve the wake up problem. If you can't solve the wake up problem then I still have to keep a controller by my chair and then I don't have as much of a desire for the IR solution.

I have been searching for a way so that I can use a standard universal IR remote to control the PS3 functions. Since I have the requisite USB skills, I finally decided to build my own solution. I made a small USB stick that receives Sony IR codes and puts out USB HID keyboard packets. It's a whopping 1.2" x 0.6" in size. And works great! Unfortunately, Sony doesn't seem to support USB remote wakeup or at least I haven't figured out how to make it work yet. This means that you can't turn on the PS3 via IR yet. There is no mapping for the PS button either. But I can map all of the other controller keys to the universal IR remote. It's still a work in progress though as I don't have a plastic cover yet.

Anyway, I happened to find this thread a while back in my search and wanted to see if there is still any interest in a solution of this sort. Like, is anybody interested in buying one? I was thinking of selling them for about $40 at first until the volume goes up. If anyone is interested, I guess I can put up an EBAY storefront or something. I have 25 units ready and parts for about 2000 more when I get more PCBs. I'm not really sure how to go forward from here but, I think there is a small niche market of videophiles with a similar need for a solution like this. I apologize if this post is somewhat of a sales pitch but, I don't see any better way to reach other people that have this problem.

Sounds good, but it might be too much $$. I have a whopping 10 bucks in my PS2 remote/IR receiver and PS2 to USB adapter. It is not obtrusive - the USB plugs in, the wire goes around the back and the IR receiver is hidden inside my HT component rack.

The other problem is that it would be more than the BD remote, too.

If I were you, I would offer it to a manufacturer and take a lump sum for the design.

Good luck!
Jason.

Well, what I want is a single control for everything, like a Harmony. Just buying the Bluetooth remote doesn't fix that problem. And I guess if everyone is happy with the Ps2 converter dongle solution, there won't be many people with this problem anymore so that's good. The $$$, well it could go down to the $10 range eventually if the volume was high enough. I am just wanting to recoup some of my investment by selling some to early adopters. I was thinking there was a bunch a people (like me) that were annoyed with this problem who regularly burn that kind of change just to try something out or be part of something new. But, it may not be like that. It was a fun project anyway. In the long run I want to build a web business selling gadgets for niche markets such as this. Since surviving Cancer, I have decided to re-invent my life where I can focus on doing stuff that is fun from now on and get out of the boring rut of working in a cubicle as a corporate drone! So, I retired and am living that dream. Viva the revolution!

I was surprised that the PS3 didn't support a USB keyboard all that well. I should be able to plug in any USB keyboard and use the media keys such as FF, Play, and pause but it doesn't seem to work. It should also allow sleep and resume from the standard keys as well. Has anyone seen this work? Perhaps they will add this in a future firmware upgrade. I still think the PS3 is usefull just as a moderately priced BD player. If I were a kid, I would be pointing that out to Mom and Dad in hopes of getting one around the house. I wonder how many PS3s were bought for games anyway since there are not that many games available yet.

$40 is pretty high considering one can use the IR dongle discussed in this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=847228
at least once (if) it becomes available for purchase in the US. With this new offering you can supposedly control the full XMB using your IR remote for less than $20.

Great! That's what I was looking for a few months back. It doesn't turn on the power but who cares? You have to get up to put in a DVD anyway.

As part of my project I built an IR sniffer and, I see what is happening with the arrow keys. The genuine sony PS2 remote sends the arrow sequence for both the Game controller and the generic Sony DVD, back to back. I can't imagine how anybody would get lucky enough to catch only the correct one. It's all down to luck since if you hold it down long enough to make sure you get the right code, you are in danger of either getting the wrong one, both, or more than 1 of a code. Since this looks like a new keypress, it would cause the arrow key learned to either, do nothing, work, or make multiple moves. Learning in raw mode would be extremely difficult. Sounds like some of us are very lucky!

With the built-in harmony commands, it only sends the DVD arrow codes.

The dongle I built works with the Harmony 1000 right out of the box. In fact, I even was able to enter Playstation 3 as the device and selected the "Game with built-in DVD". Works like a champ with no learning. It also works flawlessly with the newer PS2 IR remotes. It wasn't easy but... it's all working now.

When I was cleaning my apartment today, I found the old IR receiver from my PS2 remote, which I haven't used in years (not since I dumped my error-prone old school PS2 for the slimline model when it came out), so I'm eager to take a crack at getting my Harmony 880 to control movie playback on the PS3 (especially with the upscaling firmware coming out tomorrow!). Problem: I can't find the old PS2 remote. Will I basically be OK using the PS2 codes in Logitech's online database, or do I absolutely, positively need the old remote to teach my Harmony certain signals? (Some of the posts in this thread make the arrow keys seem potentially problematic...)

When I was cleaning my apartment today, I found the old IR receiver from my PS2 remote, which I haven't used in years (not since I dumped my error-prone old school PS2 for the slimline model when it came out), so I'm eager to take a crack at getting my Harmony 880 to control movie playback on the PS3 (especially with the upscaling firmware coming out tomorrow!). Problem: I can't find the old PS2 remote. Will I basically be OK using the PS2 codes in Logitech's online database, or do I absolutely, positively need the old remote to teach my Harmony certain signals? (Some of the posts in this thread make the arrow keys seem potentially problematic...)


I needed the PS2 remote. Give it a try without and see what happens! The hard thing to find is the IR receiver, so you can just buy the remote cheap, brand new, if you need it.

The dongle I built works with the Harmony 1000 right out of the box. In fact, I even was able to enter Playstation 3 as the device and selected the "Game with built-in DVD". Works like a champ with no learning. It also works flawlessly with the newer PS2 IR remotes. It wasn't easy but... it's all working now.
Good job on figuring out the arrow keys.

Can you summarize exactly what functionality you have working? Is still only in DVD/BD playback or can you navigate the XMB?

Well, I got all the other buttons mapped successfully to my 880, but the arrow keys aren't working, so I'll either keep digging for my old PS2 remote or buy one for $5 if they really are that cheap. UNLESS...MMuecke, if I'm reading your post right it sounds as if you *didn't* have to teach the remote any codes when you created the device as a PS3. Is that right? When I entered "PlayStation 3" as a model number, I got a warning that "your reomote can't control this device because it uses Bluetooth instead of IR blah blah..."

As part of my project I built an IR sniffer and, I see what is happening with the arrow keys. The genuine sony PS2 remote sends the arrow sequence for both the Game controller and the generic Sony DVD, back to back. I can't imagine how anybody would get lucky enough to catch only the correct one. It's all down to luck since if you hold it down long enough to make sure you get the right code, you are in danger of either getting the wrong one, both, or more than 1 of a code. Since this looks like a new keypress, it would cause the arrow key learned to either, do nothing, work, or make multiple moves. Learning in raw mode would be extremely difficult. Sounds like some of us are very lucky!

With the built-in harmony commands, it only sends the DVD arrow codes.

The dongle I built works with the Harmony 1000 right out of the box. In fact, I even was able to enter Playstation 3 as the device and selected the "Game with built-in DVD". Works like a champ with no learning. It also works flawlessly with the newer PS2 IR remotes. It wasn't easy but... it's all working now.MMuecke, I'm echoing a couple other requests here. Please summarize exactly what your device does. Does the dongle you built work with Harmony 880 right out of the box, too? It doesn't seem like it would be a bother, but it really is an irritant when watching a BD movie w/ my PS3, and using my Harmony 880, direction arrows effect 2-4 commands. Uggh. I sent you a PM early this am, don't know if you got it.

Well, I got all the other buttons mapped successfully to my 880, but the arrow keys aren't working, Yep, par for the course.

Hello All,
I just noticed that I have XMB support now with the 1.8 firmware upgrade using my Harmony remote ,and an IR receiver from an original ps2 remote. Has anyone else noticed this? It is not useable yet because it seems to jerky. Hopefully someone will figure out the correct delay settings for the directional buttons.
Thanks,

Hello All,
I just noticed that I have XMB support now with the 1.8 firmware upgrade using my Harmony remote ,and an IR receiver from an original ps2 remote. Has anyone else noticed this? It is not useable yet because it seems to jerky. Hopefully someone will figure out the correct delay settings for the directional buttons.
Thanks,

I, too noticed this right away! I am happily using my 880 for everything now (except games, of course!) Mine works smoothly - read back for my advice on delays and learning the direction keys as RAW. A great benefit with the update since we can now access streaming media (I am using WMP 11).

Now if we could just figure out an IR command for PS :D

Good luck!
Jason.

I, too noticed this right away! I am happily using my 880 for everything now (except games, of course!) Mine works smoothly - read back for my advice on delays and learning the direction keys as RAW. A great benefit with the update since we can now access streaming media (I am using WMP 11).

Now if we could just figure out an IR command for PS :D

Good luck!
Jason.Hey, Jason. Good for you (seriously). Glad you were able to get the direction keys to work without skipping. I tried 4-5 times in raw, and no luck. All still skips. Per MMuecke, "the Sony PS2 remote sends the arrow sequence for both the Game controller and the generic Sony DVD, back to back. I can't imagine how anybody would get lucky enough to catch only the correct one. It's all down to luck since if you hold it down long enough to make sure you get the right code, you are in danger of either getting the wrong one, both, or more than 1 of a code. Since this looks like a new keypress, it would cause the arrow key learned to either, do nothing, work, or make multiple moves. Learning in raw mode would be extremely difficult".

Your success, I don't believe, has anything to do with intrakey delays, or strength of IR signals. Just a bit of random luck. I'm going to try again, because this is frustrating when watching BD.

Cheers!

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Your success, I don't believe, has anything to do with intrakey delays, or strength of IR signals. Just a bit of random luck. I'm going to try again, because this is frustrating when watching BD.

Cheers!

I agree, it was very frustrating. I actually held off buying the PS3 until the IR solution was announced - I am adamant about having one remote for everything. It took me a long time one night to get it to work. Did you try brand new batteries? This, combined with the REALLY FAST key press/release on the PS2 remote during learning is what did it for me. If I just ended up lucky, I am pretty happy.

Jason.

I'm going to try to create new IR codes off of this set:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/sony/Sony_ps2.htm

I'm also having the jerkiness, skipping, whatever you want to call it with the directional buttons in the XMB and the command screen while watching BD. The directionals seem to be just fine during a BD, but not when I'm in the PS3 interface.

Learning from the remote is a PITA as it seems to save the code as a held down button rather than just a press.

Also, I find the codes at Remote Central don't work for me...and I have an official PS2 remote and dongle.

I'll follow up later with results, and if I have them, the HEX codes.

Ed

The logic3 IR remote for PS3 work fine in BD mode and XMB mode.


Go to amazon co uk and search ps3 blu-ray dvd remote


I have just bought one.

cool

Take a look here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=847228

mauros where are you based?

As I wrote in the thread you linked to, amazon.co.uk won't let me ship the Logic3 remote to the US.

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I wrote to Logic3 using their US website and asked about availability, but they didn't respond.

I'am italian.

$40 is pretty high considering one can use the IR dongle discussed in this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=847228
at least once (if) it becomes available for purchase in the US. With this new offering you can supposedly control the full XMB using your IR remote for less than $20.

So does this unit mentioned in the above link provide anything (if yes what?) over the PS2 IR dongle/PS2 IR remote solution?

I'am italian.ah, lucky you.

So does this unit mentioned in the above link provide anything (if yes what?) over the PS2 IR dongle/PS2 IR remote solution?It is supposed to provide XMB support, not just DVD/BD playback. It's still missing the PS button though.

However,
I just noticed that I have XMB support now with the 1.8 firmware upgrade using my Harmony remote ,and an IR receiver from an original ps2 remote.maybe the PS2 solution will work just as well now.

Though using the Logic3 IR dongle may solve the arrow key usability issues.

I dont' want to outfit my PS3 with old IR tech. I just want more companies (like the Harmony division of Logitech) to release some blu-ray supported remotes.

Yes, logic3 work in XMB, all buttons (arrows, triangle, circle, etc. etc....)

So, following the guidelines in the first post in this thread, I have a semi-successful solution to controlling my PS3 via IR (I'll consider it successful when I can use the direction arrows as expected).

One side-effect is that whenever I turn on my PS3 and play a game, it always pairs with port 2, and I must then reassign it to port 1. The game will not respond with one controller assigned to port 2.

If I unplug the USB, and restart the game, the controller then goes to port 1 as I wish. I've tried plugging the USB in different inputs (1-4), but my controller always pairs with port 2.

Are there known solutions to get my controller to pair with port 1? Thanks.

same problem with the logic3 remote. But not all games won't work with controller 2. GT HD want controller 1 but other games work fine with anyone.

Arrows buttons works with logic3 but I think because it send two code when you press button. One code work in XMB and one work in BD mode. Arrow buttons have a little delay when pressed, and for teach arrow button to harmony remote you need to operate in RAW mode.

I've been able to get the IR codes separated, but each individual code does not work in the XMB or in BD movies. Only the combined code works, and the PS2 seems as if it needs everything sent.

For example, the remote sends 3 repetitions of IR code 1 and 1 of IR code 2. Separate them out to 1 of IR 1 and 1 of IR 2, it doesn't work. Combine 1 of IR 1 and 1 of IR 2, it doesn't work. But combined as taught, it skips three spaces in the XMB, and works properly in BD.

More trial and error to follow...

Ed

Are there known solutions to get my controller to pair with port 1? Thanks.

Not so far. I have even called Sony tech, and they couldn't help. I just push PS and reassign to controller 1.

I just push PS and reassign to controller 1.Exactly, Jay. Thanks for the reply.

I've been able to get the IR codes separated, but each individual code does not work in the XMB or in BD movies. Only the combined code works, and the PS2 seems as if it needs everything sent.

For example, the remote sends 3 repetitions of IR code 1 and 1 of IR code 2. Separate them out to 1 of IR 1 and 1 of IR 2, it doesn't work. Combine 1 of IR 1 and 1 of IR 2, it doesn't work. But combined as taught, it skips three spaces in the XMB, and works properly in BD.

More trial and error to follow...

EdInteresting, Ed. Looking forward to seeing what you find.

Has anyone tried using the new PS2 remote (without the IR receiver) together with a USB-IRDA dongle? Sorry if this has been discussed.

thanks

CN

I've been able to get the IR codes separated, but each individual code does not work in the XMB or in BD movies. Only the combined code works, and the PS2 seems as if it needs everything sent.

For example, the remote sends 3 repetitions of IR code 1 and 1 of IR code 2. Separate them out to 1 of IR 1 and 1 of IR 2, it doesn't work. Combine 1 of IR 1 and 1 of IR 2, it doesn't work. But combined as taught, it skips three spaces in the XMB, and works properly in BD.


I think the original remote change code on long and short button pressure. With short pressure it skip one space. With long pressure change code and scroll quckly.
Original PS2 remote and sixaxis work very quickly on XMB but logitech arrows buttons are too slow and don't scroll on long pressure...

I think the original remote change code on long and short button pressure. With short pressure it skip one space. With long pressure change code and scroll quckly.
I believe this is not quite right. I've again (in the last 2 days) tried to map my PS2 remote directional buttons to my Harmony 880. When depressing the 4 buttons, I am using a pencil tip, and VERY quickly hinge my wrist, and don't even press down on the button all the way. In other words, I don't think one can depress it for a shorter period of time.

I then tried it in XMB, and it skips about 4-5 spaces. :(

I believe this is not quite right. I've again (in the last 2 days) tried to map my PS2 remote directional buttons to my Harmony 880. When depressing the 4 buttons, I am using a pencil tip, and VERY quickly hinge my wrist, and don't even press down on the button all the way. In other words, I don't think one can depress it for a shorter period of time.

I then tried it in XMB, and it skips about 4-5 spaces. :(

My 885 (learned in RAW mode) don't skip 4-5 spaces. It works fine, but too slow... Original PS2 work like sixaxis....

On harmony 885 I have:

Inter-key Delay: 0 ms
Inter-Device Delay: 0 ms

My 885 (learned in RAW mode) don't skip 4-5 spaces. It works fine, but too slow... Original PS2 work like sixaxis....

On harmony 885 I have:

Inter-key Delay: 0 ms
Inter-Device Delay: 0 msHmm, I'll try changing to your inter-key and inter-device delays. The delays don't seem to matter too much, as Jay was able to map in RAW, and he used different delays.

Perhaps someone else has the HEX codes or RAW codes they can post? I've even created the IR codes through a program using the proper device codes and can't get them to work. Only taught as previously stated worked.

Also, I can't press the button any faster than I am now. :)

I am a little confused about which DVD remote and/or IR receiver I need to get in order to make it work with my Harmony 880. I think I got the first part: get the USB to PC dongle for PS2 from RadioShack. Then it says get PS2 DVD remote. Which one? I believe there are multiple versions of PS2 remotes out there now. Some say they only work with "new" or redisigned PS2 systems. Is that the one I need? Or do I need the "old" version? Does the remote come with a separate IR receiver? That I need to plug into RadioShack dongle? Anybody's got pictures of the things that complete the sutup?

I am a little confused about which DVD remote and/or IR receiver I need to get in order to make it work with my Harmony 880. I think I got the first part: get the USB to PC dongle for PS2 from RadioShack. Then it says get PS2 DVD remote. Which one? I believe there are multiple versions of PS2 remotes out there now. Some say they only work with "new" or redisigned PS2 systems. Is that the one I need? Or do I need the "old" version? Does the remote come with a separate IR receiver? That I need to plug into RadioShack dongle? Anybody's got pictures of the things that complete the sutup?

You need the old version, because early PS2s didn't have an IR port built-in, so the old remote control comes with a separate IR receiver. The new control doesn't come with the IR receiver that's why it won't work with early PS2s. The actual remote controls are almost exactly the same, the new one has a few extra buttons. So you plug that separate IR receiver in the USB thingy you bought at Radioshack and you should be set.
- There are some issues though that you can read about in this thread (most notably that without any experimentation the directional buttons will "skip" in the XMB and in the screen that comes up by pressing the triangle during a movie), some people were able to overcome this issue though by repeatedly learning the codes with a universal remote.
- Also there is a mention of another thread which talks about a different solution sold by a 3rd party company that is reportedly more solid and works right out of the box.
- Both solutions are missing the ability to turn your PS3 on or off though.

Got it, thanks! (I am new to PS-world :))

However, RadioShack does not list Sony scph-10150 ("old" remote) on the webiste. Do they still have them in B&M stores?

You can buy the old PS2 remote with the IR Dongle on ebay for $11.00. They are shipped from China. I bought one and it took about 10 days to arrive.

Yes, logic3 work in XMB, all buttons (arrows, triangle, circle, etc. etc....)

Just bought one of these off of eBay (UK) to use with my new Pronto. It works like a charm. As discussed, no PS3 button, but I'm fine with that for now...it gets the trick done for the time being until another company comes out with another here in the States with every single button. Until then, I'm happy to be able to control most of what I need to for XMB movement and DVD/Blu-ray playback. I'm not finding lag to be any issue.

Incidentally, using this makes me think about how easy a product like this really is to design and manufacture. Plain and simple, the whole reason nothing like this has come out in the States yet must have to do with licensing/marketing reasons (e.g., Sony still pumping its Bluetooth controller) than anything else. Until this happens though, I'm pretty happy now.

Paid about $28 all-in including shipping from UK. Yeah, about the same as the Bluetooth control I also have, but the peace of mind that I can now also control with IR is great!

Whenever I power on the PS3 (with the receiver for the PS2 remote plugged in via usb), my controller always defaults to player 3. Does anyone know of a way to work around this?

Whenever I power on the PS3 (with the receiver for the PS2 remote plugged in via usb), my controller always defaults to player 3. Does anyone know of a way to work around this?

No. See the above posts talking about this. Press "PS" and reassign to controller 1.

Just picked up the Blu Wave Remote for PS3 (by Nyko) from amazon. It's an IR remote with USB dongle. I haven't seen anyone talk about it so I thought I'd alert everyone. I should have it next week and will let everyone know how it performs. My intent it to program my Harmony 880 and throw this remote in a drawer to never be seen from again.

Just picked up the Blu Wave Remote for PS3 (by Nyko) from amazon. It's an IR remote with USB dongle. I haven't seen anyone talk about it so I thought I'd alert everyone. I should have it next week and will let everyone know how it performs. My intent it to program my Harmony 880 and throw this remote in a drawer to never be seen from again.

could u please post a link etc

Just picked up the Blu Wave Remote for PS3 (by Nyko) from amazon. It's an IR remote with USB dongle. I haven't seen anyone talk about it so I thought I'd alert everyone. I should have it next week and will let everyone know how it performs. My intent it to program my Harmony 880 and throw this remote in a drawer to never be seen from again.

PLEASE LET US KNOW how this works. Ihave a harmony 880 as well and If I could pick this up and reprogram my 880 to emulate this remote I would be very happy. Let us know if the PS button works.

could u please post a link etc

Nice, I hope this thing works out. The USB dongle isn't obtrusive. There's nothing resembling a PS button on the remote, but everything else is there.

http://www.amazon.com/Blu-Wave-Remote-for-PS3/dp/B000R5H7KE/

Nice, I hope this thing works out. The USB dongle isn't obtrusive. There's nothing resembling a PS button on the remote, but everything else is there.

http://www.amazon.com/Blu-Wave-Remote-for-PS3/dp/B000R5H7KE/

Yes, please do post your thoughts on this remote - and the implementation of the harmony rather than the actual remote itself. I have a 890 and would love to ditch the useless PS3 remote as soon as possible. (I say useless due to the fact I watch in a dedicated, light controlled room - and no backlit keys makes it a loser for me.)

If this works, I'll do the same thing. Buy the remote for the dongle and use the 890 with it instead. Fingers crossed...

Yes, please do post your thoughts on this remote ......


Second/third(?) this!

Please let us know.

I am (still) hoping for some discrete power on/off functionality..

____
Axel

pretty sure sony is working on an IR remote for ps3, they have to, they can charge $50 for it and ppl will buy it.

Potentially GREAT find, sp1dey. I just added it to my Amazon wish list, and am awaiting your findings.

The USB adapter seems very compact - won't even see it when inserted. If the direction arrows work (hopefully for both BD in-screen menu and XMB), I am down for this product. I still cannot get the direction arrows to not skip 3-5 entries with the original PS2/USB adapter thingy.

This could be really great news! Waiting on impressions too! Thanks!

I bit the bullet and ordered one as well.

Doh! Hoping to get it today but UPS seems to have stalled my package in Jersey. I'll have full impressions by mid week.

Doh! Hoping to get it today but UPS seems to have stalled my package in Jersey. I'll have full impressions by mid week.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. I am 'on the fence' regarding buying this as I would love to eliminate the PS3 remote from my system completely. Turning the player on/off - is something I do at the console anyway. If I could use the 890 for everything but that, I'd be a happy camper.

I actually had my Amazon package waiting at home. Initial impressions... wow is this Nyko remote a PoS. It is very cheaply made but does the job (since it will soon be lost at the bottom of a drawer). The IR dongle is responsive and well, not ugly.

I just did an initial program using the learning features of the Harmony 880 and I am pleased. Please keep in mind there is NO PS button. I'm starting to think it would be useless given the likely lack of power to the USB ports when the machine is in standby... anywho. I have some tweaking ahead on some of the learned functions (delays and such to work out) but full XMB navigation exists. Given the configurability of the Harmony 880 you will have to decide what keys to map where and what to put in the precious LCD screen.

In addition to the missing PS button, it's also lacking an eject button (I'm trying to figure out a way around this - although it's not much of an issue for me).

All in all, in spite of it's shortcomings, it is a much much improved solution over the Bluetooth remote (given we've become Harmony Nazi's). I’ll likely keep a six axis handy for a while just in case.

Thanks sp1dey.

In the future, I hope a Harmony owners will be sure to label their PS3 as another device so other owners can take advantage of same device profile with their existing IR receiver. If you simply label your PS3 as a "PS3" or "Playstation3", other Harmony owners won't gain access to the new IR codes. If you label it as something original, such as "Bluwave PS3," Harmony will update their online database with that information, so long as others know to add that device name.

For those that came late to this thread, is there any IR code that will turn on a PS3? Or are we always stuck turning on the PS3 initially with another remote?

MY RIG
SAMSUNG HLT6176S
PS3 - BLUERAY
XBOX360 HD-DVD - HD-DVD
ONKYO TX-SR 605 RECEIVER
KEF (KHT3005BL) SPEAKERSYSTEM

I am considering the Harmony 880 - will it control these components?
Will it control the PS3 and the Xbox360?

Please advise

I actually had my Amazon package waiting at home. Initial impressions... wow is this Nyko remote a PoS. It is very cheaply made but does the job (since it will soon be lost at the bottom of a drawer). The IR dongle is responsive and well, not ugly.

I just did an initial program using the learning features of the Harmony 880 and I am pleased. Please keep in mind there is NO PS button. I'm starting to think it would be useless given the likely lack of power to the USB ports when the machine is in standby... anywho. I have some tweaking ahead on some of the learned functions (delays and such to work out) but full XMB navigation exists. Given the configurability of the Harmony 880 you will have to decide what keys to map where and what to put in the precious LCD screen.

In addition to the missing PS button, it's also lacking an eject button (I'm trying to figure out a way around this - although it's not much of an issue for me).

All in all, in spite of it's shortcomings, it is a much much improved solution over the Bluetooth remote (given we've become Harmony Nazi's). I’ll likely keep a six axis handy for a while just in case.

Thanks for the impressions! I will probably never use the remote itself once things are programmed - so I'm glad to see the dongle was worth it! I was a little worried about responsiveness but looks like that is non-issue. Have you tried with DVD, BD, and the PS3 menus? If it navigates well with the 880 I'm spending some money tomorrow.

This is GREAT news!! All I want to be able to do is get around the XMB and control DVD's and BR's with this (well, my mx500 remote that is). Finally! Thanks Sp1dey!

It's also cheap enough that if another better solution comes out, this will have paid for itself for the time I used it.

Ordered today - should have it by tomorrow with my Prime membership. I'll post some quick thoughts on it as well with my 890 RF extender setup. Hopefully it will allow me to throw both the remote that comes with it, as well as my BT PS3 remote, in a drawer to never be touched again...

Edit: Just got my confirmation from Amazon - not expected to ship until 6/20 - still should have it this week though.

Thanks for the impressions! I will probably never use the remote itself once things are programmed - so I'm glad to see the dongle was worth it! I was a little worried about responsiveness but looks like that is non-issue. Have you tried with DVD, BD, and the PS3 menus? If it navigates well with the 880 I'm spending some money tomorrow.

I've tried everything and it worked well (other then the lack of PS and eject buttons). There is a little delay on the direction keys on the Harmony, but this delay isn't present on the Nyko remote itself... I ran out of time last night, but suspect a little tweaking of the programmed keys will eliminate this (it's a non issue I just tend to be a perfectionist).

Bottom line, if you have a universal programmable remote, there is no reason not to get this. Like a later poster said, it's so cheap that if something better comes along, no biggie.

For those that came late to this thread, is there any IR code that will turn on a PS3? Or are we always stuck turning on the PS3 initially with another remote?

Why not just turn it on by putting a disc in? By the time one can sit down again (presuming a decently sized display at a moderate distance), the main title should be coming up...

I got a Harmony 720 as a gift and was considering getting the Remote Central contraption together (PS2 to USB, PS2 IR receiver, etc) but now I think I'll use this Nyko solution. Getting impatient though... anyone know if it's in stores yet? Gonna have to try EB Games or something later today.

Why not just turn it on by putting a disc in? By the time one can sit down again (presuming a decently sized display at a moderate distance), the main title should be coming up...

I got a Harmony 720 as a gift and was considering getting the Remote Central contraption together (PS2 to USB, PS2 IR receiver, etc) but now I think I'll use this Nyko solution. Getting impatient though... anyone know if it's in stores yet? Gonna have to try EB Games or something later today.


I looked at EB and BB over the weekend for this and could not find it. I just ordered from amazon too. Really looking forward to going back to my 1 remote (can't see crap on the ps3 remote in my dark home theater!).

Does anyone know if there is any harm in leaving the ps3 turns on permanently? like with the green light? That would solve my issue with the ps button. i mean you can't even charge controllers while it is off. does it go in some kind of power save mode when it is just idle at the xmb? do you think it would dramatically lower the life of my ps3 if I leave it no 24/7?

As far as charging controllers, you could get that Nyko dock station thing.

I've had my PS3 folding for 3 or 4 days straight and didn't notice any issues. I believe at one point I read mention of Sony advocating "always on" functionality but I might be imagining that.

Why not just turn it on by putting a disc in? By the time one can sit down again (presuming a decently sized display at a moderate distance), the main title should be coming up...For Blu-ray playback, you are right -- inserting the disk turns the PS3 on. Still, there's no disk to insert if you want to use the PS3's [limited] media center functionality.

Does anyone know if there is any harm in leaving the ps3 turns on permanently? like with the green light? That would solve my issue with the ps button.Pressing other buttons like 'select' on the PS3 Bluetooth remote will also turn the PS3 on. I guess the same is not true of the USB IR adapter? It isn't supplied with power while the PS3 is off?

Just ordered, thanks

Wow I just ordered it this morning with super saver shipping and they already shipped it by UPS. But it says I won't get it until the 26th. Weird!

For Blu-ray playback, you are right -- inserting the disk turns the PS3 on. Still, there's no disk to insert if you want to use the PS3's [limited] media center functionality.

Just leave it on? Don't do Folding much?


Pressing other buttons like 'select' on the PS3 Bluetooth remote will also turn the PS3 on. I guess the same is not true of the USB IR adapter? It isn't supplied with power while the PS3 is off?

I imagine that is fixable by a firmware update. My Denon AVR, for example, has a menu option to leave the USB and Ethernet powered when it's standby, so Sony should be able to fix that...

For Blu-ray playback, you are right -- inserting the disk turns the PS3 on. Still, there's no disk to insert if you want to use the PS3's [limited] media center functionality.

Pressing other buttons like 'select' on the PS3 Bluetooth remote will also turn the PS3 on. I guess the same is not true of the USB IR adapter? It isn't supplied with power while the PS3 is off?
I would guess that the USB port is powered, you could check by plugging in a laptop fan or the like and see if it works, but it probably isn't "live" for signal commands, which makes it essentially "dead" for our purposes.

No, the USB is unpowered when the system is off---that's why the controllers won't charge.

Thanks sp1dey.

In the future, I hope a Harmony owners will be sure to label their PS3 as another device so other owners can take advantage of same device profile with their existing IR receiver. If you simply label your PS3 as a "PS3" or "Playstation3", other Harmony owners won't gain access to the new IR codes. If you label it as something original, such as "Bluwave PS3," Harmony will update their online database with that information, so long as others know to add that device name.


I didn't know about this feature. Sure would be handy if I could just download Sp1dey's codes to my 880 and not need to buy a Nyko remote... :)

Since I already have a PS2 IR dongle attached via USB to PSX...

Just ordered, thanks

Wow I just ordered it this morning with super saver shipping and they already shipped it by UPS. But it says I won't get it until the 26th. Weird!



Mines already shipped, with an estimated arrival date of the 21st, Thursday.

Well, if multiple owners of this device confirm it works as it seems it should work, I'll be buying one, too! And I spent $64, including shipping, on the PS2 IR dongle parts!!! Oh well, that's the life of early adopters, eh? :rolleyes:

Check the egg for a better price.

Just ordered from New Egg since Frys, BB, Jerk It City, EB/Gamestop, etc had no idea what I was talking about.

Good that I ordered from amazon this morning and it already shipped. Amazon does not have it anymore. Newegg has it for a higher price. I got it for $13.99 with free shipping from amazon when they still had it. Hope it works out. I have a Harmony clone from H/K (TC30). I should be able to program it.

Check the egg for a better price.The $64 also included an IR emitter for my Zantech IR repeater system. That was approx $28 alone. I have my PS2 IR receiver behind my PS3 - out of sight.

My remote arrived from Amazon today, just 36 hours after I ordered. Haven't played with it yet.

My remote arrived from Amazon today, just 36 hours after I ordered. Haven't played with it yet.Eager to hear your findings...

Good that I ordered from amazon this morning and it already shipped. Amazon does not have it anymore. Newegg has it for a higher price. I got it for $13.99 with free shipping from amazon when they still had it. Hope it works out. I have a Harmony clone from H/K (TC30). I should be able to program it.

Sorry. I didn't see the original price on Amazon. With free shipping that was a good deal. I also had to buy something else on Newegg so shipping wasn't a big deal.

Good that I ordered from amazon this morning and it already shipped. Amazon does not have it anymore. Newegg has it for a higher price. I got it for $13.99 with free shipping from amazon when they still had it. Hope it works out. I have a Harmony clone from H/K (TC30). I should be able to program it.
http://www.amazon.com/Blu-Wave-Remote-for-PS3/dp/B000R5H7KE/
Yeah I bet, this thread is what killed their stock. Especially since their always about 10x as many lurkers as posters. Here's the new egg link for anybody wo missed Amazon.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16879213018

Mine is out for delivery so I'll post my thoughts nlt tomorrow on use with it and the Harmony 890 w/ RF extender.

Got 5 of them today by next day shipping, lol other 4 are for the bro's/cousins . Will pot my results

I received my Nyko Blu Wave remote today and have all the buttons on that remote working now on my Harmony 880. It took several attempts to get the directional buttons working properly.

They first were "repeating" like others have reported for the PS2 DVD remote IR solution but after 3-5 re-learn attempts all are working fine. Everything but the directional buttons worked on the Harmony on first attempt .... just those darn directional buttons were pains to learn.

BTW. The learned directional buttons from the Nyko remote work both in the PS Menu modes and in the Bluray movie content menus/screens. I'm a happier campy now.

I have a PS2 DVD remote with IR + usb adapter dongle available. Email if interested... otherwise I'll put up on eBay this weekend.

I'll go ahead and add my positive experience. I got my nyko remote today too (a day earlier than expected). I programmed my mx-500 and everything works great.

One of my directional buttons came out doubled too, I re-programmed it careful to just tap the button on the nyko remote and that took care of it. The nyko directional buttons must just repeat easily.

I also used a "low profile" usb extension cord on the PS3 and put the IR dongle in the back with one of my IR extender legs on the front of it. This worked great too, no prob with the extension. (my equipment is inset in the wall at the back of my home theater)

I'm sooo happy with this! Back to 1 remote!

Sorry for the dumb question, but can someone explain how to setup this Nyko remote with the 890 remote? Why is this any different than the Sony remote? Where does the USB dongle go?

I have what may be a dumb question, also. I am very interested in this solution, but how is life without the PS button? Do you find yourself frequently pulling out another controller to get the PS button? If you want to turn the system off or get back to the XMB while listening to music, you need the PS button. Do any of you find this cumbersome?

Sorry for the dumb question, but can someone explain how to setup this Nyko remote with the 890 remote? Why is this any different than the Sony remote? Where does the USB dongle go?

It's not any different than the old PS2/USB adapter solution. It works the exact same. It sounds a little less cumbersome in terms of what needs to be plugged in to the USB, though. Not a problem for my system, as my PS3 sits on top of a component cabinet so I just run the long USB around the back and the the IR receiver is in the cabinet next to the amp. The programming is the same. Go for whatever you can find. I lucked into my PS2 controller with IR adapter, and the USB to PS adapter for about 15 dollars. Both were used at game stores. If I were to do it today, I would just order the new one because it is easy.

I have what may be a dumb question, also. I am very interested in this solution, but how is life without the PS button? Do you find yourself frequently pulling out another controller to get the PS button? If you want to turn the system off or get back to the XMB while listening to music, you need the PS button. Do any of you find this cumbersome?\\

Life is fine without the PS button. I never grab the controller unless I am playing a game. The PS3 turns on when I insert a DVD/BD, and I turn the PS3 off when I leave the room by touching the standby button. You don't need PS to get out of music, you use circle (going from memory here, but I am positive you can do it - I have with stored mp3s, and streaming from my PC).

Hope this helps,
Jason.

Quick update with my use of the IR receiver with my Harmony 890 w/ RF extender. The BD and DVD navigation works like a charm - with all BD disk navigation working perfectly. I am unable to use it to navigate through the main menu system of the PS3 however. As others have stated it moves in large 'chunks' with the directional buttons in that menu system - but doesn't in BD disk menus for some reason. I need to reprogram the directional buttons and see if that helps, but thus far that's not working. For BD playback though, it works spectacularly - and if I never get the other figured out it will still be worth it for me.

Life is fine without the PS button. I never grab the controller unless I am playing a game. The PS3 turns on when I insert a DVD/BD, and I turn the PS3 off when I leave the room by touching the standby button. You don't need PS to get out of music, you use circle (going from memory here, but I am positive you can do it - I have with stored mp3s, and streaming from my PC).Hey Jason, you may know this, but I turn off the PS3 when gaming by always hitting the PS button on my controller, and choose turn system off. The only time I touch the standby button is when I've finished watching a BD.

Any other sources for the Nyko Blu Wave? Seems amazon, buy.com and newegg are tapped out.
Thanks,
-Alex-

Quick update with my use of the IR receiver with my Harmony 890 w/ RF extender. The BD and DVD navigation works like a charm - with all BD disk navigation working perfectly. I am unable to use it to navigate through the main menu system of the PS3 however. As others have stated it moves in large 'chunks' with the directional buttons in that menu system - but doesn't in BD disk menus for some reason. I need to reprogram the directional buttons and see if that helps, but thus far that's not working. For BD playback though, it works spectacularly - and if I never get the other figured out it will still be worth it for me.


I had the repeating problem with two directions on my mx-500 remote. re-programming carefully only tapping the direction on the nyko remote solved the issue.

I did some experimenting regarding the PS button and so far it seems that 'turn off' capability is possible using only USB connection. (I have an early prototype PS3 controller that doesn't have bluetooth in it). So theoritically IR-USB dongles can be made to take advantage of this.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to 'turn on' the PS3 using this controller. I'm not very familiar with USB programming, but I'll try to capture the raw USB codes to see what is being passed during 'turn off'. Any suggestions on software/how to?

:mad: Argh. Newegg voided my order. :mad:

Maybe time to build the contraption... probably just keep going with the bluetooth remote and hope Sony or something one else comes out with something more... integrated. A "dongle" to plug into the 4th port (farthest to the right) that huggged the chassis would be best.

Hey Jason, you may know this, but I turn off the PS3 when gaming by always hitting the PS button on my controller, and choose turn system off. The only time I touch the standby button is when I've finished watching a BD.

As I said, "I never grab the controller unless I am playing a game." Guess how I turn it off when I am done playing? ;)

As I said, "I never grab the controller unless I am playing a game." Guess how I turn it off when I am done playing? ;) :cool: But when watching a BD, I must physically press the PS3 standby...

Newegg voided my order too. Odd since as far as I know I was one of the first ones to order.

It appears that the IR remote defaults to the contoller 1 position and the game controller gets the 2 position. So when you want to use the game controller to play a game you have to go to the contoller setup screen to change the game controller back to the 1 position to access the game. Not a huge deal but anyone know if you can default the IR remote to the 2 position so that you don't have to change the game contoller each time?

for those with harmonys, is there a way to upload your codes for others to download?

I tried the MCE IR USB extender from my old VAIO and that didn't work, either, unfortunately. On an amusing note, it did turn on my 360, though. :) I wonder if Harmony is working on their own thing... Have any of the USB IR dongles for PC's proven to work or not?

So can someone tell me, does that Blu-wave remote bring up the pop-up menu etc, or not? I seem to be reading conflicting reports.

Also, I have the Playstation 2 IR remote (with the dongle), and a USB -> PSX adapter, but for some reason it's REALLY laggy, so much so that I press a directional button on the XMB and nothing happens, or it zooms across all the icons. Just clearly not working correctly. Is my USB adapter just buggy, or is this a common complaint? I also found the IR adapter conflicted with my playing the Hot Shots Golf demo. Some weird lag/non responsiveness from my SIXAXIS controller with the USB adapter plugged in.

Thanks all.

So can someone tell me, does that Blu-wave remote bring up the pop-up menu etc, or not? I seem to be reading conflicting reports.

Also, I have the Playstation 2 IR remote (with the dongle), and a USB -> PSX adapter, but for some reason it's REALLY laggy, so much so that I press a directional button on the XMB and nothing happens, or it zooms across all the icons. Just clearly not working correctly. Is my USB adapter just buggy, or is this a common complaint?

Find my post on page three (I think) on how I fixed this with my setup.

Find my post on page three (I think) on how I fixed this with my setup.

Thank you for this. Will report back!

I just cannot get this IR receiver thing to work properly. Not only does it re-map my controllers to port 2 when they turn on, but it actually interferes with games as well. Some games work fine (Resistance, for example), but others such as the Hot Shots Golf 5 demo are actually unplayable. For some reason, the controller doesn't respond correctly with the IR plugged in.

Oh well. Thanks anyway, guys.

I just cannot get this IR receiver thing to work properly. Not only does it re-map my controllers to port 2 when they turn on, but it actually interferes with games as well. Some games work fine (Resistance, for example), but others such as the Hot Shots Golf 5 demo are actually unplayable. For some reason, the controller doesn't respond correctly with the IR plugged in.

Oh well. Thanks anyway, guys.

The controller defaulting to "2" is a known issue that we all have. Sony has no solution for it. The only answer is to press PS and reassign the controller to "1". I haven't had any issues with the IR setup interfering with games, but I don't have Hot Shots Golf. I will try and DL it to see if I have the same problem.

i don't see any Audio, Subtitle, Pop Up Menu buttons on the Nyko's picture, do these buttons exist?

Hi,
I just ordered the Nyko IR remote for my PS3 for use with my Harmony 880.


What device should I select when programming my 880?
Has someone created a custom device for the Nyko PS3 remote we can select that will save us having to program the directional buttons?


Thanks!

i don't see any Audio, Subtitle, Pop Up Menu buttons on the Nyko's picture, do these buttons exist?

At this point think of the Blue Wave remote as just an IR transformation of the sixaxis controller. There's no audio or subtitle button, you'd use the triangle button on the remote to access those functions (I hope this will change in the future, but I'm not counting on it). The menu is accessible with the square button on the remote.

"So can someone tell me, does that Blu-wave remote bring up the pop-up menu etc, or not? I seem to be reading conflicting reports."

Yes, there is a Menu button and so far depending on how the BD was programmed it has taken me to the pop-up menu but I can't attest exactly if this works 100% of the time ... you'll either end up with pop-up or the top menu... but my experience so far with my BD titles is pop-up. As mentioned by others, subtitles, audio, and other features you must go through the TRIANGLE (options) menu to adjust.

However, I think there is a way to get those feature to be direct IR changable if someone could figure out what the IR codes are ... the Sony BD remote has these button on it so "direct changing" of these features is possible if someone could just understand what IR codes correspond to those features.

the Sony BD remote has these button on it so "direct changing" of these features is possible if someone could just understand what IR codes correspond to those features.But the Sony remote doesn't use IR. What makes you so certain that IR codes exist?

Here's a dumb question....

I have a USB IR receiver that came with my HP HTPC. Can I use that - and the codes from the Nyko remote?

Try it and let us know. :)

My contraption method (using a Mad Catz remote) doesn't seem to work. After I use the Mad Catz to learn the command on my Harmony 720, they seem to work but it seems like they're coming in "bursts" of 2 or 3 (or more!) from the Harmony at a time. For example, i'll hit play and it will pause, play, pause, play, pause even though in the learning step I just tapped it on the Mad Catz for a second... if I had skip back, it will do it at least twice, etc. Is there any way to "break down" the commands in the Harmony software is there?

Try it and let us know. :)

My contraption method (using a Mad Catz remote) doesn't seem to work. After I use the Mad Catz to learn the command on my Harmony 720, they seem to work but it seems like they're coming in "bursts" of 2 or 3 (or more!) from the Harmony at a time. For example, i'll hit play and it will pause, play, pause, play, pause even though in the learning step I just tapped it on the Mad Catz for a second... if I had skip back, it will do it at least twice, etc. Is there any way to "break down" the commands in the Harmony software is there?
Have you tried adjusting the speed/repeat of the commands at the Harmony site? There's a menu to adjust all that stuff, I think it's under troubleshooting or customization, I forget which one. I've had the remote since last week but haven't had the time to play with, I'll try and program my 880 today and see what I can come up with. I've had pretty good luck with those fine-tuning adjustments in the past.

Have you tried adjusting the speed/repeat of the commands at the Harmony site? There's a menu to adjust all that stuff, I think it's under troubleshooting or customization, I forget which one. I've had the remote since last week but haven't had the time to play with, I'll try and program my 880 today and see what I can come up with. I've had pretty good luck with those fine-tuning adjustments in the past.

Yeah. I tried both dropping it really low (50ms IIRC) and high (500ms) but didn't seem to notice a change...

I'm already using the PS2 IR/USB workaround (I happened to have an old PS2 remote that I used with my old PS2). Does the Nyko remote provide any additional advantages over the PS2 IR/USB workaround? For example, can you go to the XMB menu with it?
Just wondering if the Nyko remote is worth getting for those who already impemented the PS2 remote workaround.

Yeah. I tried both dropping it really low (50ms IIRC) and high (500ms) but didn't seem to notice a change...
hmm..I don't think that's what I was talking about, I recall the screen I was in used a 1-10 like setting scheme. I posted some visuals of it in the TiVo S3 thread, I see if I can find it. Although, I think Harmony has changed the look of their site since then.

I found them. Note that this was to fix a TiVo that was responding too slow, so for the PS3 the too fast selection would be the one to choose.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/Har1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/Har2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/Har3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/Har4.jpg

I hope that helps, I'm trying to squeeze some time in to program mine today, I'll post my results.

Well now that you broke it down Micky Mouse style, I think I'll have to try that later today! :D Thanks!

Unfortunately, been there, done that. Didn't help in the xmb - still jumps 4 or 5 over horizontally. Need to try and reprogram the buttons but I'm not holding out a lot of hope there. Doesn't matter to me - for in movie experience it works fine and that is what I wanted it for anyway.

I have got a perfect working solution that I'm very satisfied with. :D

I'm in the UK and stumbled across this thread when looking for an answer to operate my PS3 with a universal remote.

I thought it only fair and decent to pass on my experience to users on the other side of the pond.

Please check out my thread over at the UK AVforums:

(won't let me insert hyperlink)

edited to include hyperlink here: UK AVforums (www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=542415)

Hope this helps.


simon, it's good to know the Harmony PS3 database codes worked with your Logic3 remote. Unfortunately, those of us in the US can't seem to get a Logic3 shipped here, and the Blu-Wave USB dongle that we are discussing recently does not appear to respond to those codes. Ah well, I'm sure we'll stumble across the answer to this puzzle in time.

Hmm... changed down to 0 and still experiencing the same problems. Testing with the Mad Catz remote works, though. Guess it's time to have the 720 another go at the Raw Learning. That UK site also breaks it down sesame street style, so think I'll try to incorporate some of those tricks...

I might have to take you up on your offer, though, Simon. Thanks!

OK, for anyone interested in getting hold of the Logic3 remote, as described in my previous post (see below).



I'm not completely familiar with how it works, but can't you just upload the commands that your Harmony has copied from the Logic3 remote and create a new profile, or device at the Harmony site so that others can just select the device and the commands would already be set?

I'm not completely familiar with how it works, but can't you just upload the commands that your Harmony has copied from the Logic3 remote and create a new profile, or device at the Harmony site so that others can just select the device and the commands would already be set?

The issue is this: Harmony has database codes for the PS3 that work with the Logic3 remote receiver. These codes include functions such as audio track and subtitle selection. But we in the US cannot get the Logic3 shipped here. We can buy a Nyko BluWave remote and receiver, but the Harmony codes are not registering with the Nyko hardware, so IR capabilities are limited to those of the sixaxis controller (no subtitle or audio buttons, for instance). simon1 is graciously offering to be the middle man for anyone in the states that wants to get their hands on a Logic3. I suspect he's going to regret this whole business :)

The commands are not the issue here. It's the receiving device that you lot are having problems with.

If it was the commands, there isn't a way for users of the Harmony software to access the commands uploaded by a different member in any event.
Okay, like I said, I'm not familiar with all that, I just noticed others here have mentioned something along those lines, I probably misunderstood.

Put me down for one of those Logic3's BTW.

The issue is this: Harmony has database codes for the PS3 that work with the Logic3 remote receiver. These codes include functions such as audio track and subtitle selection. But we in the US cannot get the Logic3 shipped here. We can buy a Nyko BluWave remote and receiver, but the Harmony codes are not registering with the Nyko hardware, so IR capabilities are limited to those of the sixaxis controller (no subtitle or audio buttons, for instance). simon1 is graciously offering to be the middle man for anyone in the states that wants to get their hands on a Logic3. I suspect he's going to regret this whole business :)
Got it now, it's at the receiving end, the PS3/USB dongle, where the issue is. :)

I'm definitely interested since this contraption setup doesn't appear to be working out.

simon1, I'll take one.

I finally got around to setting up my 880 with the Nyko remote and so far, everything works perfectly. I don't play games so I don't know if I'm missing anything there, but as far as playing BD discs, it does everything I need, I even discovered the "Display" button which I had never used before, provides some interesting info.

It works just fine in the XMB as well, no double or triple moves, it works just as it's supposed to. I'm happy with it.

As far as I can tell, the only things it doesn't do are power on/off and eject which are non-issues for me.

What about the pop-up menu? I'd say outside of the usual transport controls, I usually use display and pop-up menu the most. I don't really care about discreet codes for specific subtitles,e tc Yeah, but it'd be nice but it'd be very rare I would bother unless I couldn't access the pop-up menu.

I almost always turn on my PS3 by putting a disc in anyway. Shutdown (usually by PS button from the bluetooth remote) would be different, but I can certainly live with tapping the power button after i pick the disc out of the PS3, too.

I see the Blu-wave is back in stock at Newegg.... I'm wondering if I'll think the Logic3 dongle is really worth twice the price of the Blu-wave....

What about the pop-up menu? I'd say outside of the usual transport controls, I usually use display and pop-up menu the most. I don't really care about discreet codes for specific subtitles,e tc Yeah, but it'd be nice but it'd be very rare I would bother unless I couldn't access the pop-up menu.

I almost always turn on my PS3 by putting a disc in anyway. Shutdown (usually by PS button from the bluetooth remote) would be different, but I can certainly live with tapping the power button after i pick the disc out of the PS3, too.

I see the Blu-wave is back in stock at Newegg.... I'm wondering if I'll think the Logic3 dongle is really worth twice the price of the Blu-wave....

The Nyko functionality is identical to the sixaxis controller, excepting the PS button. So pop-up menus are accessible with the square button.

Are we talking about the onscreen menus such as features, language, etc that pop up from the bottom of the screen when playing a BD? If so, those work fine with full movement and functionality. I used the Menu button on the Harmony and the direction and select keys work fine.

If we're talking about that virtual keyboard thing that pops up, yes, that pops up as well although I've never done anything with it myself. What is the function of that anyways?

I see the Blu-wave is back in stock at Newegg.... I'm wondering if I'll think the Logic3 dongle is really worth twice the price of the Blu-wave....So what is the benefit of the Logic3 over Blu-wave? Is the Logic3 in Harmony's database, while the Blu-wave isn't? All the functionality is the same?

The issue is this: Harmony has database codes for the PS3 that work with the Logic3 remote receiver. These codes include functions such as audio track and subtitle selection. But we in the US cannot get the Logic3 shipped here. We can buy a Nyko BluWave remote and receiver, but the Harmony codes are not registering with the Nyko hardware, so IR capabilities are limited to those of the sixaxis controller (no subtitle or audio buttons, for instance). simon1 is graciously offering to be the middle man for anyone in the states that wants to get their hands on a Logic3. I suspect he's going to regret this whole business :)

Just go to Ebay UK and search for Logic3. I got one off of someone there for $28(shipped).

Just go to Ebay UK and search for Logic3. I got one off of someone there for $28(shipped).

Good to hear that they're available from ebay, amazon uk was the only known option before.

I wasn't able to find any on the Ebay UK site, but I did a www.google.co.uk search and found a couple other UK retailers with the Logic3 remote.

I ordered one for a total of $10 more than the Blue-wave total at newegg.com. Hopefully it was worth it for the ease in set-up.

I goggled the UK site for Logic3 and came up with many products, mostly for the IPod Nano. What item SPECIFICALLY should I be looking for?

Google the UK site for "logic3 remote (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=logic3+remote&btnG=Google+Search&meta=) ". Check out the datakits.co.uk link.

Google the UK site for "logic3 remote (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=logic3+remote&btnG=Google+Search&meta=) ". Check out the datakits.co.uk link.

Cool. Ordered one.

Now the wait.

Just got my Nyko delivered to work, so I'll test it out on my Harmony 720 tonight. It has a "top menu" button, so I'm curious if anyone with a Harmony and Nyko has tried to learn / learn raw this command? And/or just used it from the Nyko remote itself.

The top menu button does the same thing as the sixaxis square button, it displays the pop-up menu. The only issue I've had so far with the Nyko codes on my Harmony 880 is a delay between commands, such as when flipping through XMB tabs quickly. The Nyko does it fine, but the Harmony takes a second or so for each command. I've set the inter-key delays to zero, and even tried different settings on the mystery 0-5 Harmony advanced configuration option. Still no improvement. It's usable certainly, but kind of frustrating trying to navigate Blu-ray menus and of course the XMB.

I'd be especially interested in knowing whether the Harmony remote with Logic3 receiver suffers from these same inter-key delays. If it's faster, I might be tempted to get one

The top menu button does the same thing as the sixaxis square button, it displays the pop-up menu. The only issue I've had so far with the Nyko codes on my Harmony 880 is a delay between commands, such as when flipping through XMB tabs quickly. The Nyko does it fine, but the Harmony takes a second or so for each command. I've set the inter-key delays to zero, and even tried different settings on the mystery 0-5 Harmony advanced configuration option. Still no improvement. It's usable certainly, but kind of frustrating trying to navigate Blu-ray menus and of course the XMB.

I'd be especially interested in knowing whether the Harmony remote with Logic3 receiver suffers from these same inter-key delays. If it's faster, I might be tempted to get one
I noticed that too, in fact, tried playing with the settings today and didn't really make much improvement at all. Definitely not a deal-breaker, but it's certainly not as lightening fast as the Sony BT remote.

I'm going to play with it some more as I recall from the previous Harmony software setup menus that a few of the selections for adjustment were counter-intuitive, if you wanted faster, you actually need to set something slower, that sort of thing.

Just got everything learned, mapped, and set from the Nyko to my Harmony 720. Everytyhing works great and much easier to learn than the Mad Catz, which had frequent "try again" messages. I'm actually pleasantly surprised by the Nyko remote. Feels nice and sturdy and not at all cheap like I was expecting.

Got every bottun on the Nyko mapped to my 720. "TopMenu" from the Nyko mapped to the "Menu" button on my 720 brings up the BD pop-up menu on The Patriot, at least, so that's great, as the transport functions, display (still love the bitrate meter, btw), and the pop-up menu are my most frequently used buttons in BD, of course. Triangle works to bring up the PS triangle options, of course. Play / Pause I both have mapped to the learned Play function from the Nyko. Info on the Harmony is mapped to Display (no difference from Select, of course).


Works in the XMB, as well, though I noticed the response was a bit slow and I couldn't get the "speed burst" i do from the PS3 (or the MadCatz, though that one was just crazy TOO responsive).

In short, the Nyko solves all the functions I need. Getting discrete subtitle / audio, etc would be great for the future to map to soft keys but right now I'm 100% satisfied.

That is great news UxiSXRD. I just received my Nyko remote in the mail today. Now I just have to wait until my PS3 gets here on Monday or Tuesday! It does look very nice. I was quite surprised for the $15 I spent on it. I have a Harmony 680 and I will probably work on mapping it now so it will be ready when the baby arrives! I'd much rather have the dozen buttons I use on a regular basis available on my Harmony then a Sony BT Remote with a bunch of buttons I'll use once in a great while. Love the Harmony!

anybody received their Logic 3?

I want to hear about the review of it before i decide on nyko of going international

Pardon my confusion, but how can the new Nyko remote possibly do everything the sony BD remote does? It doesn't have enough buttons.

Or do people mean that the Nyko can do everything because you get access to the PS3 menu from where you can do everything? (Not very elegant - the menu sucks - give me a direct button anyday).

For example, the Nyko doesn't have direct buttons for: OPEN/CLOSE, AUDIO, ANGLE, SUBTITLE, POP-UP MENU, NUMBER KEYS, CLEAR, TIME, SLOW/STEP.

Some pictures:

The original PS2 IR DVD remote that people were originally recommending:

http://www.remotecentral.com/articles/ps3-ir-remote-photo02.jpg


The PS3 Bluetooth remote (nice, but no IR):

http://www.gamepro.com/sony/ps3/games/news/images/84708-3.jpg

The new Nyko PS3 IR remote:

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/06/nyko_bluwave.jpg

Kal

Pardon my confusion, but how can the new Nyko remote possibly do everything the sony BD remote does?
I don't think you need dedicated buttons when there's a software menu with these features. To access, don't you just have to press stop on a disc that's playing?

I'm not saying that I want it that way (no dedicated buttons), but the Nyko seems functional.

-KLH

I don't think you need dedicated buttons when there's a software menu with these features. To access, don't you just have to press stop on a disc that's playing?


No, it overlays the content that's playing and, as with the BD pop-up menu you can change things like subtitles and audio track on the fly while in play.


I'm not saying that I want it that way (no dedicated buttons), but the Nyko seems functional.


Right, this is definitely workable for the users of Universal Remotes at less than the cost of the dedicated Bluetooth remote (I got my Blu-wave shipped for under $20). It will only take a firmware update for Sony to give full functionality, though anyone could guess where this is on the priority scale (I'd guess pretty low).

Ok, thanks. It's as I expected: You can't get direct access to all the functions with the Nyko or PS2 remote through a single button as you can with the 'true' PS3 bluetooth remote, but you can get access to the on-screen MENU while the movie's playing.

Not a big deal really, as 99.9% of the time you don't need to hit these buttons quickly efficiently while the movie's playing.

So the million dollar question is: Where can one order the Nyko Blu-Wave Infrared Remote? It's on backorder at nyko.com...

Kal

Amazon's got it but 2-3 week backorder also it looks, looks like a few of the vendors under used and new on Amazon say they have it in stock but want a slight premium. One on eBay also.

Thank god this was finally released! So once I get one I just plug in the USB dongle, and I can load the PS2 IR commands from the MX950 database (looks like they've got them under AUX catigory)... and should be good to go right?

FWIW, I ordered my Nyko remote yesterday off Ebay. Item #150137691352. They had 12 yesterday. 8 are left now. Hasn't shipped yet.

Kal

If I use the Nyko remote with my Harmony 890, how does that work? I assume the Nyko USB dongle goes into the PS3, and does the Harmony emitter stick onto the USB dongle? I assume that's where the IR is?

newegg has it in stock for 19.98 shipped