View Full Version : calibration for ur ps3 on ur hdtv


vincentnyc
12-04-06, 10:47 PM
what kinda calibration/settings do u guys have for ur hdtv? i heard someone here said u have to do it during blu-ray playback and press triangle. but what do u do afterward? any1? when u calibrate...do u need to do it for for all these settings like: 1080p, 720p, and 480p? thx in advance.

darthrsg
12-04-06, 10:57 PM
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vincentnyc
12-04-06, 11:08 PM
oh great...looks like i got groupies now that is stalking me.

Daniel L
12-05-06, 01:09 AM
U R very fun-E

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vincentnyc
12-05-06, 08:13 AM
Any1???^^^

efranzen
12-05-06, 08:47 AM
If you have a Sony BD movie (maybe other studios as well), from the main menu on the disc hit the Triangle button. Then enter the code 7669 (which stands for SONY) and then the enter button. This will bring up 3 or 4 calibration screens. I tried it with my Black Hawk Down BD disc last night and it worked.

vincentnyc
12-05-06, 09:06 AM
cool thx. i will try it when i get a blu-ray movie from bb. i just return mi:3 yesterday..

efranzen: out of the 3 or 4 calibration screens...which one did u use?

JackBau3r
12-05-06, 09:07 AM
Hey! Not funny! I hope the OP isn't mocking me, because I made a thread like this a few days ago(nobody didn't bother replying).

I bought Resistence and I found out on my 23 inch Samsung LCD HDTV that having these settings seem to work fine:

Contrast-90
Brightness-60
Sharpness-20
Color-50
Tint-50
Tone-Cool2

I have dynamic contrast set to on, too. Reason why is that the contour lines tha are dark or things that are just dark are actually dark when I turn it on. Also, Cool2 seems to be a perfect, because the colors actually look real in environment.

efranzen
12-05-06, 09:13 AM
cool thx. i will try it when i get a blu-ray movie from bb. i just return mi:3 yesterday..

efranzen: out of the 3 or 4 calibration screens...which one did u use?

Well, to be honest, I didn't use any of them. They did not seem particularly useful to me.

My particular HDTV does not have different video calibrations on a per input basis. It just has 1 calibration for a 480i/p signal and a second calibration for a 720p/1080i signal. I use the Avia disc for my calibration through my Toshiba HD-A1 HD DVD player. The Avia would not work correctly on my setup using the PS3 as the PS3 will not upconvert to 720p/1080i. So I would only be able to calibrate the 480i/p setting with that disc. With my Toshiba I can calibrate both signals though.

You should still check out those test screens though. Just because I didn't find them useful doesn't mean that you won't either. Your mileage may vary.

vincentnyc
12-05-06, 09:41 AM
well there are 3-4 calibration i can select. what happen if i dont like any of them? how do i go back to my current setup?

vincentnyc
12-05-06, 10:27 AM
everything for me looks good for the blu-ray movies and ps3 demo games.

but when i put in my ps2 games (winning eleven nine), when i choose england and pick their red jersey...it display like a maroon type of color instead of red red.

so my question is if i do the calibration, will it fix the problem? but will it also mess up my blu-ray setting and ps3 games setting? if so, im not gonna go ahead and calibrate my ps3 then.

Felgar
12-05-06, 11:54 AM
You guys should use the standard color-bar pattern to set contrast, brightness, color, and hue, with a blue filter for color and hue. This is no different than Avia and I can't see how you wouldn't find it helpful. One of the later screens demostrates resolution and can be used to set sharpness.

vincentnyc
12-05-06, 12:00 PM
felgar: how do u do that on ur ps3?

Felgar
12-05-06, 03:04 PM
See post #6. It should work on Taledega Nights. If you don't have a blue filter then you need to find one from somewhere, or go buy Avia which comes with one. If you don't understand how to use the patterns then you should use Avia anyways and learn by doing them with Avia first as it includes a tutorial. So you'd use Avia for SD and the PS3 patterns for HD.

vincentnyc
12-06-06, 09:22 AM
If you have a Sony BD movie (maybe other studios as well), from the main menu on the disc hit the Triangle button. Then enter the code 7669 (which stands for SONY) and then the enter button. This will bring up 3 or 4 calibration screens. I tried it with my Black Hawk Down BD disc last night and it worked.


tried it last nite with the crappy movie ricky bobby. press "select" and enter in 7669 and select "enter"....but nothing happen. on the top on the menu, i do see color for: red, yellow, green and blue. and there is up, down, left and right arrows next to the colors. is that what u talking about? is that the cailbration screen?

Blitzzz
12-06-06, 10:03 AM
tried it last night on Talladega Nights. WORKS

load the disc
hit triangle when the movie menu comes up
input "7669" then enter on the translucent ps3 BD menu screen
screen will go black and switch to calibration screens
use R1 to cycle through the 4 or them

vincentnyc
12-06-06, 10:37 AM
tried it last night on Talladega Nights. WORKS

load the disc
hit triangle when the movie menu comes up
input "7669" then enter on the translucent ps3 BD menu screen
screen will go black and switch to calibration screens
use R1 to cycle through the 4 or them


strange..didnt work for me...is the code "7669" sony for the ps3 or for a tv? cuz my tv is a westinghouse.

Felgar
12-06-06, 11:04 AM
It causes the PS3 to load the patterns from the disc and show them. You have to be at the main movie menu as mentioned by Blitzzz.

vincentnyc
12-06-06, 11:48 AM
oh on the movie menu where it asks u to "play" the movie as oppose while u are in the movie? i tried it while the movie was playing...gonna tried it tonite again on the movie menu screen.

vincentnyc
12-06-06, 11:51 AM
now once u select the calibration screen that u want...is this calibration gonna be use on all the games, video, and blu-ray movies?

Felgar
12-06-06, 12:02 PM
Yes vincent it would, because when you do the calibration you are actually adjusting your TV to adapt to whatever your PS3 is putting out.

As a simplified example, one pattern will have a very dark black bar inside a black patch. The black patch is showing the reference level of 'black' (or no light output) to your TV. So when reading a movie disc or playing a game and the PS3 is told "show black here" then it will output that color. The darker bar is probably 'blacker than black' and shouldn't really ever show up in material. So to set your TV properly, you set the brightness (black level) on your TV so that the darkest bar can just barely no longer be seen as it will dissappear into the main black box. Set it too low and very dark greys would show as black on your TV too. Set it too high and the reference black becomes grey and you never get a nice deep black.

Oh, one thing that's worth noting is that some TV's remember different settings for different signals. If your TV is like this, you need to do the calibration at 1080i and then 480p. Also a good starting point would be to copy the same results to a 720p input. (or check if you can bring up the patterns fromn a 720p game which I haven't tried)

qjones
12-06-06, 02:30 PM
Hey! Not funny! I hope the OP isn't mocking me, because I made a thread like this a few days ago(nobody didn't bother replying).

I bought Resistence and I found out on my 23 inch Samsung LCD HDTV that having these settings seem to work fine:

Contrast-90
Brightness-60
Sharpness-20
Color-50
Tint-50
Tone-Cool2

I have dynamic contrast set to on, too. Reason why is that the contour lines tha are dark or things that are just dark are actually dark when I turn it on. Also, Cool2 seems to be a perfect, because the colors actually look real in environment.


I have a Samsung LN-S4695D - I'm going to give these a shot tonight. Maybe with my screen being kinda on the mid/large size I should tone the contrast down a bit or just use the power save function with it at 90..... any thoughts?

JackBau3r
12-06-06, 03:59 PM
Actually, take off dynamic contrast and set the brightness on 50. MUCH better. Let me know what you think, because I want your opinion too.

Pratt75
12-30-06, 11:26 AM
Just found this thread, thank you for the great information. I just got a PS3 recently and have it hooked up through HDMI to a 26" Samsung LCD. I'm going to try a few of things some of you have done and see what happens. Thanks again for the great information.

Are the blue ray disc calibration tests good enough or should I end up getting the avia calibration dvd to get the most out of my setup?

modiGTI
12-30-06, 12:16 PM
Quick question: Are you guys with Sammy's leaving game mode on or off?

Pratt75
12-30-06, 12:21 PM
My samsung doesn't have a game mode unfortunately I don't believe. This is the model I have.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN-R268W-HD-Ready-Widescreen-Flat-Panel/dp/B0009612GQ/sr=8-1/qid=1167499238/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-5116301-4833647?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

delusive1
12-30-06, 12:24 PM
I went to the appropriate thread for my lcd. Tried numerous calibration. I ended up just using standard for br movies and vivid for games. I have yet to try this calibration test that comes with the BR movies.

Pratt75
12-30-06, 08:08 PM
The BR disc does give you four test patterns but there is no explanation as to what we are supposed to use them for. They are not really helpful to someone who is new to tv calibration so they didn't help me.

Felgar
01-02-07, 11:28 AM
Pratt, Avia will help you out there as it has demonstrations on how the patterns work and what the various settings do. Once you go through Avia then the patterns on the PS3 will make complete sense to you. And of course Avia is perfect for any SD calibration, and has a bunch of good audio stuff too. I would highly recommend getting it.

Jiffylush
01-02-07, 05:59 PM
Thanks for all the info here guys, going to try this on TN myself.

Felgar, you have tons of patience and are a great resource, thanks for your contributions.

Pratt75
01-02-07, 11:26 PM
Thanks for all the info here guys, going to try this on TN myself.

Felgar, you have tons of patience and are a great resource, thanks for your contributions.

I agree with Jiffy, thank you very much for all of the helpful information. :) Felgar I guess my next purchase will have to be avia, thanks again.

Wesley Hester
01-03-07, 12:18 AM
On my particular DLP HDTV, I have found the black level via HDMI from the PS3 to be higher at the menu, in games, etc. than that of Blu-ray movies. I have to toggle between a 27 Brightness with games and 40 with Blu-ray movies to achieve the correct black level. In comparison to other equipment in my setup, my DirecTV HD Satellite receiver has to be at 27 because it is so bright over HDMI as well, while all other components (including an Xbox 360 via VGA) are set to 40 brightness.

Filipinoyakuza
01-03-07, 02:11 AM
If anyone has calibrated their PS3 for gaming and playing blu-ray movie on the Sony KD-34XBR960 CRT TV could you post what you have your input setings set on this TV through the HDMI input 7.

Here is what I currently have mine set to (PS3 connected to KD-34XBR960 through HDMI cable) .

Mode Pro:
Picture: 35
Brightness: 32
Color: 31
Hue: 0
Sharpness: MIN
Color Temp: COOL
Clear Edge: OFF
Adv Color Axis: DEFAULT

Thess settings are great for watching blu-ray movies on PS3 but I wouldnt reccomend those setting when playing games on PS3.

Felgar
01-03-07, 10:52 AM
Thanks for the kind words guys...

On my particular DLP HDTV, I have found the black level via HDMI from the PS3 to be higher at the menu, in games, etc. than that of Blu-ray movies. I have to toggle between a 27 Brightness with games and 40 with Blu-ray movies to achieve the correct black level. In comparison to other equipment in my setup, my DirecTV HD Satellite receiver has to be at 27 because it is so bright over HDMI as well, while all other components (including an Xbox 360 via VGA) are set to 40 brightness.
Hmm, that's interesting. On my plasma, both HD and Blu-Ray are pretty close to the same. Granted my HD source is from a cable box but still... If you use component on the Satellite receiver does your brightness level change? To me it sounds like the difference between SD and HD IRE values, where I've found SD to require a substantially lower brightness. Maybe the Satellite receiver is set to the wrong color space or something? (and you are watching on an HD channel not SD right? Depending on the source material my cable box will require the HD or SD black level settings)

Also, what are you using in-game to determine the proper brightness? I use the same settings for both Blu-Ray and Games and I've found it pretty good.

Wesley Hester
01-04-07, 12:56 AM
For the PS3 and games, I simply hold the PS button until the screen appears asking if you want to turn off the controller or the console. Correct me if I'm wrong (I could be with a DLP) but that screen's background should be black. For Blu-ray movies, I'm referencing the black bars or 2.35:1 movies. Also, after adjusting the black level of the screen mentioned above, Blu-ray movies appear too dark, i.e. the lower brightness setting was actually making the image itself too dark and not just the black bars blacker.

Suhnder
01-04-07, 03:05 AM
Anyone know how to set white levels correctly with the 7669 screen? The reference black thing is obvious, but the only white I see is a solid white block on the lower left. Am I missing something?

stevcha
01-04-07, 09:39 PM
Can someone explain what to look for when using the Blu ray test screens? I've read the various websites on how to use the Avia and DVE screens but I'm not sure what I'm looking for when setting white, black, color and hue when using the Blu ray screens. I assume the screens are as follows:

Screen 1 - used to adjust color, tint
Screen 2 - sharpness
Screen 3 - black and white level
Screen 4 - not sure??


Now for screen 1 what am I looking for when I adjust color and tint using a blue, red, & green filter? For screen 3 what am I looking for when adjusting black and white levels? Thanks in advance.

markenglert
01-04-07, 10:08 PM
Can someone explain what to look for when using the Blu ray test screens? I've read the various websites on how to use the Avia and DVE screens but I'm not sure what I'm looking for when setting white, black, color and hue when using the Blu ray screens. I assume the screens are as follows:

Screen 1 - used to adjust color, tint
Screen 2 - sharpness
Screen 3 - black and white level
Screen 4 - not sure??


Now for screen 1 what am I looking for when I adjust color and tint using a blue, red, & green filter? For screen 3 what am I looking for when adjusting black and white levels? Thanks in advance.


Screen 1 is for adjusting Tint, Color and Brightness... I use the Avia Blue filter and adjust by looking at the two bars on either side of the middle bar. The bars ought to appear as solid blue under the blue filter. There should be no little or no line break where the long part of the bar meets the smaller, bottom portion. When you get those two bars to be solid blue, put the filter away and look at the green and red bars. My TV tends to push a lot of red, so I bring the Color setting down until it's no longer bright neon red and a bit more natural looking... even if it effects the perfection of my solid blue bar.

To adjust the black, look at the lower right hand corner of your screen and turn the brightness up until you see a small gray bar appear. Then turn the brightness down until you can see the gray bar and the area around it looks nice and black.


Screen 2 is for adjusting Sharpness, turn your sharpness down to 0 or 50, depending on your set, and fiddle with the setting until you see no halo effects (bright whites on the edges of the blacks) and the lines appear smooth. I pay special attention to the slightly tilted lines along the top of the screen.


I use 3 and 4 for checking my contrast. The black to white gradation on 3 should be as smooth as your set will allow, the lines on 4 should all be white but without any "bleeding" of the white into the black.

After you get through them all, go back and do it all again! The adjustments you make to the Contrast will affect you brightness and Color. I usually go through at least a few times and then again in a few days.

stevcha
01-04-07, 10:27 PM
Screen 1 is for adjusting Tint, Color and Brightness... I use the Avia Blue filter and adjust by looking at the two bars on either side of the middle bar. The bars ought to appear as solid blue under the blue filter. There should be no little or no line break where the long part of the bar meets the smaller, bottom portion. When you get those two bars to be solid blue, put the filter away and look at the green and red bars. My TV tends to push a lot of red, so I bring the Color setting down until it's no longer bright neon red and a bit more natural looking... even if it effects the perfection of my solid blue bar.

To adjust the black, look at the lower right hand corner of your screen and turn the brightness up until you see a small gray bar appear. Then turn the brightness down until you can see the gray bar and the area around it looks nice and black.


Screen 2 is for adjusting Sharpness, turn your sharpness down to 0 or 50, depending on your set, and fiddle with the setting until you see no halo effects (bright whites on the edges of the blacks) and the lines appear smooth. I pay special attention to the slightly tilted lines along the top of the screen.


I use 3 and 4 for checking my contrast. The black to white gradation on 3 should be as smooth as your set will allow, the lines on 4 should all be white but without any "bleeding" of the white into the black.

After you get through them all, go back and do it all again! The adjustments you make to the Contrast will affect you brightness and Color. I usually go through at least a few times and then again in a few days.

Thanks!! This is exactly what I was looking for. One question, do you use red and green filters at all when adjusting the tint?

Felgar
01-05-07, 01:12 AM
No strevcha, only the blue is used for both color and tint. The red and green have other purposes (i.e. to adjust the red push Mark was talking about with other Avia patterns.)

stevcha
01-05-07, 01:28 PM
No strevcha, only the blue is used for both color and tint. The red and green have other purposes (i.e. to adjust the red push Mark was talking about with other Avia patterns.)

Thanks!

gamelover360
01-05-07, 01:36 PM
But how do you use the red, blue, green squares?

chap
01-16-07, 07:46 PM
I used the calibration easter eggs on the disk, but I didn't like the gradient they use for the contrast/brightness patterns. I prefer it in bar form instead of gradients becaues its easier to tell what your looking at. Does anyone have a test pattern file? You would think that there should be some HD test patterns out there you can just download.

Wesley Hester
01-17-07, 09:02 AM
On my particular DLP HDTV, I have found the black level via HDMI from the PS3 to be higher at the menu, in games, etc. than that of Blu-ray movies. I have to toggle between a 27 Brightness with games and 40 with Blu-ray movies to achieve the correct black level. In comparison to other equipment in my setup, my DirecTV HD Satellite receiver has to be at 27 because it is so bright over HDMI as well, while all other components (including an Xbox 360 via VGA) are set to 40 brightness.

The PS3 uses a different color format when outputting Blu-Ray movies. It is passing blacker-than-black and whiter-than-white. When playing games and in the dashboard your PS3 switches back to RGB color (from 4:2:2) so you need to have different calibrations for each purpose.

If you want to have the system operate at the same levels all of the time, go into the Blu-Ray setup and set playback to RGB color instead of Auto. This will give you the same format for both movies and games. You'll need to recalibrate according to the new setting, but black and white levels will coincide from there on out.

There is nothing wrong with your PS3. This is normal behavior for a machine that is using 2 different color spaces based on application.

Thank you for that information. I posted awhile back in another thread about having to use two brightness settings on my Samsung HL-S5679W LED DLP HDTV and most everyone looked at me like I was nuts. For my HDTV, I use a 25 Brightness level for Games/dashboard and a 40 Brightness level for Blu-ray movies. I also have to use 25 for my DirecTV Satellite receiver which is 'bright' over HDMI as well so I have both it and the PS3 connected to the same HDMI input on the TV with a monoprice 2x1 switch. Of course I still have to manually up the Brightness to 40 when I watch a Blu-ray movie but I like the Auto setting better than RGB only.