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Kiefer is signed for two more years and the show was just picked up by Fox last week for those two seasons.
He is under a 2 year contract to Executive produce the show!
Viventis 05-22-07, 05:43 PM I agree... I'd rate the seasons like this from best to worst:
Season 4 (Hour 4)
Season 5 (Hour 5)
Season 1 (Hour 1)
Season 3 (Hour 3)
Season 2 (Hour 2)
Season 6 (Hour 6)
Wow! I can't wait for Season 7 (Hour 7).
klemsaba 05-22-07, 07:39 PM You guys complain about the writing, well guess what, with that ending the writers are not cornering themselves, and now can pretty much go anywhere they want.
24 Writers don't even concern themselves resolving cliffhanger seasons anyway.
ricwhite 05-22-07, 07:46 PM So, what will the "sneak peak" of season 7 on the upcoming DVD entail? It almost always involves Jack and if they show him alive, then it will obviously deflate any tension regarding his "suicide" thoughts. I am also interested to know which Toyota will appear in the "sneak peak."
I think season 1 is a good prerequisite cause it really develops Jack Bauer. I think 2 and 3 are very skippable.
The best thing about season 1 to me is in the beginning Jack Bauer is being completely played by the bad guys. He's utterly confused has no idea what's going on and he practically seems like an ordinary guy. Once he starts to figure out what's going on, then he turns into the badass we know.
Season 2 started out great but the end but reintroduced Jack "hacksaw" Bauer as a shouting robocop who will do anything without blinking an eye which made him less interesting. It also proved that 24 cannot deal with real political issues without insulting anyone who learned how the government works in high school.
Season 3 and season 4 had some great moments and some good red herrings, but that's when it started to seem like they were writing every episode two weeks before they shot it and were running out of ideas.
I watched season 5 and this season mostly because of the outlandish plots and over the top characters. Almost every episode had something in it that didn't make sense if you thought about it. Anything that served to drag the show on another week has been acceptable in the latest seasons.
John Chu 05-22-07, 08:21 PM Season 2 was always my favorite.
It had Jack, President Palmer and Sherry.
Season3 was kind of a let down, but 4 and 5 were excellent.
I remember being emotionally drained after the ending of Season 4, since fans were basically on edge the whole season and then seeing Jack walk into the sunset.
[I really experienced withdrawal the days after Season 4]
Wow! I can't wait for Season 7 (Hour 7). :D
Look, all the seasons had their faults...however you could overlook them because, all in all, they made some sense and were coherent. Season 6 was like they specifically looked for all the faults from the previous seasons and threw them together into a big turd soup of crapiness...Personally, I think its just time for the show to end...
WirelessGuru 05-22-07, 10:16 PM Wow! I can't wait for Season 7 (Hour 7).Guess I meant to say (Day) instead of (Hour). :) Oh well ;)
kucharsk 05-22-07, 10:24 PM Look, all the seasons had their faults...however you could overlook them because, all in all, they made some sense and were coherent. Season 6 was like they specifically looked for all the faults from the previous seasons and threw them together into a big turd soup of crapiness...Personally, I think its just time for the show to end...
Then don't watch.
The rest of us will continue to enjoy 24, as even when it's bad it's one of the best shows on television.
fujiyama 05-22-07, 11:43 PM Then don't watch.
The rest of us will continue to enjoy 24, as even when it's bad it's one of the best shows on television.
is a nice way to stifle any criticism of a weak season of what has otherwise been a very entertaining show.
Personally I thought this season was garbage and the finale was ridiculous too. I think the new characters introduced were terrible. Most of the season was forgettable and boring. It seemed like much of the plots were recycled (and they seemed like some of the poorer sub plots that too).
"24" actually got me to start watching TV again so I criticize the show as a fan. I loved the first couple seasons, as over the top as they were at times. The endings for most of the seasons were also great (though 3's was kind of lame - and I really enjoyed that season overall).
This season though just had episodes that could not contain my interest. Last season seemed to have a few filler episodes half-way through the season, but then there was that one jaw-dropping twist which got the show up and running. This season tried to have a good twist, but then just dropped the ball.
This season was a real disappointment for "24" fans. And I don't think you can just say "don't watch" the next season. I've stuck through this lousy season, and I'll continue to watch and continue to criticize. In fact, I hope the writers keep in mind what fans have to say about the season - and turn it around next season.
archiguy 05-23-07, 07:31 AM A buddy of mine and I have been watching '24' since Day 1 and have made it a centerpiece of our Tuesday night hang-out (which we've been doing for about 20 years or so). It's fun to make fun of the outlandish plotlines and there's plenty of fodder for drinking games. A lot of the people I hang with also used to be so into the show we'd talk about it the next day, try to figure out what plot twists would come next week, etc.
Well, after watching the finale the other night, we're officially done. My wife bailed about a month ago. Nobody in our circle talks about it anymore, and several others have also bagged it. Every show kind of runs its course; they run out of ideas and just start recycling them. '24' has done this since S-2, of course, but at least it was always entertaining. I think this season the show committed the greatest sin an action show like this can: it was boring. It looks like it's officially "jumped the shark", and FOX is just squeezing the last drops of life out of it. If the ratings drop another 25% next year, it won't be back the following year. They shoot horses don't they? Time to put this show to rest. Jack standing there contemplating suicide with a fade-out to the silent clock would have been a great way to wrap up the series.
NorthJersey 05-23-07, 10:02 AM Like most of us in this forum, I've been a devout follower of 24 since the beginning. Like the consensus, this season has been pretty aweful, but it did pick up towards the end until the anti-climactic ending. I could have sworn that either Jack was going to put a bullet in his skull or jump off the cliff into the ocean. I still can't figure out the great event that was going to lead to a new 24 next season, it surely can't be that whatsherface is pregnant.
Hopefully most of the characters from this season are gone, including the current President Palmer. But I started to accept Powers Booth as the man in charge at the end, I'd like to see him as the actual Present when season 7 comes around.
eddie_d_lopez 05-23-07, 10:10 AM Booth provided some good comedic moments this season with his dry, over-the-top management style...
Then don't watch.
The rest of us will continue to enjoy 24, as even when it's bad it's one of the best shows on television.
What do you say to someone who criticizes Bush or his adminstration?
I know, something like..."If you don't like it, move to Canada"!
If I didn't watch 24, I'd have nothing to joke about with my coworkers on Tuesday mornings.
noleintheburg 05-23-07, 12:02 PM I think next year needs to circulate completely around Jack.....I think it could be a case like the begining of season 5.....which started off with a bang and kept on going right till the last minute....
The writers need to really sit down and arc this to the end, kind of like what the writers of Lost have done, if it has two seasons left, then tell a story arc covering the last two seasons, nothing wrong with a big cliffhangar for the end of season 7, if it is setting up the series finale'.
I think they need a new group angry at the writers. How about something centered around enviro-terrorists like the Earth Liberation Front? I think Tom Clancy has a book about that.
I think they need a new group angry at the writers. How about something centered around enviro-terrorists like the Earth Liberation Front? I think Tom Clancy has a book about that.
Not a bad premise. Michael Crichton's "State of Fear" has a similar theme. Hope it gets feature-film treatment.
Digger16309 05-23-07, 09:21 PM ..as even when it's bad it's one of the best shows on television.
That's simply not true, and just because you write it once a week doesn't make it true either. There was a 25% drop in the audience for the Season 6 finale vs. the Season 5 finale. That is a fact and that is an atrocious loss of audience from one year to the next for a formerly-hot, emmy-winning, formerly-in the top 20 every week show.
To many of us, and millions of others who don't use this board, "Bad 24" does not equal good television.
Some of us will watch the beginning of Season 7 just to see if the writers and producers did get the message they say they did, and if they bring the show back to what it once was. If they didn't get the message, the ratings will tank quickly.
. . . even when it's bad it's one of the best shows on television.
That's simply not true . . . .
It’s neither “true” nor “simply not true.” It’s simply a matter of opinion, don’t you see?
bphisig 05-23-07, 10:53 PM I must be one of the only viewers that actually enjoyed the ending. The possibilities are virtually limitless for next season. Jack could be anywhere and doing anything to start next season. It gives the writers the perfect opportunity to start fresh, the way they did with Season 4.
Am I the only one who is seeing it this way? Think long term, everybody.
jonnythan 05-23-07, 10:54 PM You're not the only one, and I've said as much.
They neatly wrapped up all existing storylines and essentially wipred the slate clean.
Joel Surnow could take a few hints from Damon and Carlton....
Paul Bigelow 05-24-07, 12:19 AM Wiped clean. We *know* Jack doesn't jump or season seven, is going to be Chloe tearing up the place. This show doesn't go by "years" so next season could be several years from now.
'24' renewed for 2 more days
By Nellie Andreeva The Hollywood Reporter May 15, 2007
The clock on "24" will continue ticking for two more seasons.
Fox has renewed the Emmy-winning real-time drama starring Kiefer Sutherland through the 2008-09 season.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i939dbea16d13723006c63b7858525fed
Looks like 24 will be ending the same time something else that is long overdo ends. Coincidence? I think not. ;)
noleintheburg 05-24-07, 07:27 AM I must be one of the only viewers that actually enjoyed the ending. The possibilities are virtually limitless for next season. Jack could be anywhere and doing anything to start next season. It gives the writers the perfect opportunity to start fresh, the way they did with Season 4.
Am I the only one who is seeing it this way? Think long term, everybody.
I think that was the entire point, I enjoyed the ending, because like you I am thinking they'll get this off to a new and better direction....common opinion is that season 4 and season 5 were the two best, so maybe 7 and the last one, 8 can be that good if not better.
properbostonian 05-24-07, 08:35 AM I must be one of the only viewers that actually enjoyed the ending. The possibilities are virtually limitless for next season. Jack could be anywhere and doing anything to start next season. It gives the writers the perfect opportunity to start fresh, the way they did with Season 4. Am I the only one who is seeing it this way? Think long term, everybody.
Nope. I agree completely. It was a perfect ending.
I have a few minor ones, but my only major gripe this season was the whole Morris Chloe dynamic. I understand why the show needs that stuff written into the plot but I just didn't like it. Chloe's character was so, I don't' know, subdued this season. Just wasn't what I was expecting out of her.
Also, I hope Nadia comes back. :D
I used to love the show and watched it again this year.
But how many times can the plot involve the bad guys attacking CTU itself?
How many times can the president's authority be bypassed by his own adminitration or by CTU or Jack?
Would CTU still exists on the morning after that?
How many times can Jack be on the wrong end of CTU and yet they still take him back?
It's little thing that are over the top too. It would be too easy to step into the helicopter and have it fly away. No, better to have Jack jump and grab onto a rope ladder in mid-flight. The rope ladder wasn't there when the helicopter took off and swung over to fetch him; Did the boy deploy it?. Was the helicopter rotor rotating all that time when they both went on the platform? I didn't notice. Know how long it takes to start a helicopter? It's measured in minutes rather than seconds.
Why did the chinesse bad guy give the component back to Jack's father?
Why didn't the US military try to catch that sub? Or even disable it?
It's all a little too much.
noleintheburg 05-24-07, 09:59 AM I used to love the show and watched it again this year.
But how many times can the plot involve the bad guys attacking CTU itself?
How many times can the president's authority be bypassed by his own adminitration or by CTU or Jack?
Would CTU still exists on the morning after that?
How many times can Jack be on the wrong end of CTU and yet they still take him back?
It's little thing that are over the top too. It would be too easy to step into the helicopter and have it fly away. No, better to have Jack jump and grab onto a rope ladder in mid-flight. The rope ladder wasn't there when the helicopter took off and swung over to fetch him; Did the boy deploy it?. Was the helicopter rotor rotating all that time when they both went on the platform? I didn't notice. Know how long it takes to start a helicopter? It's measured in minutes rather than seconds.
Why did the chinesse bad guy give the component back to Jack's father?
Why didn't the US military try to catch that sub? Or even disable it?
It's all a little too much.
Which why the slate was wiped clean.....I don't think we'll be seeing CTU anytime soon.
For whom has the silent clock been used?
I remember (I think) Edgar and Tony but that's it.
jonnythan 05-24-07, 10:19 AM Teri in Season 1, Mason (silent clock in the middle of the episode) in Season 2, Palmer (at the end of Season 2 even though he didn't die), Chappelle in Season 3 (there was the sound of the train over the clock), and Edgar.
Tony did not get a silent clock. I remember some consternation about that and some theorizing that he didn't die because he deserved a silent clock.
jonnythan 05-24-07, 10:25 AM The rope ladder wasn't there when the helicopter took off and swung over to fetch him; Did the boy deploy it?.
They showed Buchanan deploying it just after the boy got in the helicopter. Pay more attention ;)
Why did the chinesse bad guy give the component back to Jack's father?
You should pay more attention to the thread, too. Chang headed to the top of the platform to fend off the oncoming attack. He gave it to Bauer because he had a better chance of making it to the Chinese sub.
Why didn't the US military try to catch that sub? Or even disable it?
Because that would start a war with China, which is obviously undesirable. If the component had made it onto the sub, they probably would have done exactly that.
The Chinese sub was in our waters engaging in activity that would cause the Russians to attack us. We would have been within our rights to sink the sub, and the ChiComms would be the ones with a lot of 'splainin' to do.
jonnythan 05-24-07, 10:45 AM China wouldn't have to explain much if they wanted to go to war over it.
Especially in the 24 universe.
boostedmaniac 05-24-07, 03:16 PM The whole season was pretty soft. I sure hope they start fresh next season with some new ideas.
China wouldn't have to explain much if they wanted to go to war over it.
Especially in the 24 universe.
That's when the VP explains that we have enough ICBMs to render their 1 child policy moot. :D
NetworkTV 05-24-07, 03:45 PM You should pay more attention to the thread, too. Chang headed to the top of the platform to fend off the oncoming attack. He gave it to Bauer because he had a better chance of making it to the Chinese sub.
...which was ridiculous. He didn't have enough grunts to take care of things? If I'm a criminal mastermind, I'm going to sneak out the back on the ol' Zodiac while my henchmen hold everyone off for me until the sub arrives. There's no way I'm going to hand my prize over to a guy I still don't totally trust, then risk my neck run around playing cowboy.
Speaking of little rubber boats, why didn't Jack just shoot a hole the Zodiac as they were heading off with the kid? Sure, he couldn't safely shoot either of the bad guys around the kid, but the boat was pretty exposed.
ended with a dribbling whimper. Sad. It's too bad when everyone in the room can just about shout out each line before it is spoken.
On the other hand just watched Keifer's 2000 movie "Desert Saints" and it was very original and good.
jonnythan 05-24-07, 03:55 PM Speaking of little rubber boats, why didn't Jack just shoot a hole the Zodiac as they were heading off with the kid? Sure, he couldn't safely shoot either of the bad guys around the kid, but the boat was pretty exposed.
That wouldn't have sunk the boat.
From what I saw, it wasn't a Zodiac, it was a RIB. It would have taken a number of considered shots to make it no longer useable.
ridgefamus 05-24-07, 09:30 PM Chloe's character was so, I don't' know, subdued this season. Just wasn't what I was expecting out of her.
You'll have to forgive her today. She's pregnant. Explains a lot. ;)
I was wondering why the Russians, who had the "uplink" to the whole oil rig scenario, didn't see the helicopter flying around it and escaping. Wouldn't they have reasonable doubt that the chip might not have been destroyed in the blast? They were too easy to let the VP off that hook. Of course, it was closing in on 6:00. :rolleyes:
VisionOn 05-25-07, 12:07 AM I wasn't looking forward to this so I kept delaying watching it. Surprisingly I quite enjoyed it.
They dialed down the stupidity a notch (the kid for component exchange plot is stupid no matter how you spin it ...) had a few shootings (instantly exploding barrels!) and Jack got to look sad and haunted instead of annoyed and tired. I even quite liked the downbeat ending. Given how crap some of the plotting has been this year, the fact this wasn't a totally ridiculous disaster was a surprise.
And Crazy Vice President Booth turned down his crazy level to appear reasonably sane. Pity they didn't do that earlier when he was chewing through the scenery like a 7 foot pirahna. Chloe pregnant I saw coming a mile away, but it did get a smile out of her, which is something rarely seen.
Apart from the war with Russia which I still don't get any more than why they were threatening to nuke a middle east country when they knew a Russian general was behind it, the only part which had me yelling at the screen was "just get in the boat Jack. You're right next to it. You don't have to go for the helicopter. There's a boat. You see it? There? It's white? has an engine and floats? IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU JACK!"
The only reason not to get in it, was so that it could be used to conveniently ferry away his dying father to reappear another day. :rolleyes:
Next year they should keep two F16 at CTU. They have an airstrike or have to shoot a plane down every year so it will just save them some time.
(and did they ever answer the mystery of what exactly the Chinese exchanged for Jack's freedom at the beginning of the day?)
pretzelkid 05-25-07, 01:04 AM ...which was ridiculous. He didn't have enough grunts to take care of things? If I'm a criminal mastermind, I'm going to sneak out the back on the ol' Zodiac while my henchmen hold everyone off for me until the sub arrives. There's no way I'm going to hand my prize over to a guy I still don't totally trust, then risk my neck run around playing cowboy.
Especially since Chang has been cutting and running and letting his "redshirts" take the heat since he got his hands on that circuit board. It was way out of character for Chang but then how else are you going to resurrect the circuit board next season?
Because that would start a war with China, which is obviously undesirable. If the component had made it onto the sub, they probably would have done exactly that.
Come on, if anyone should be threatening war, it's the U.S.! The Chinese have kidnapped a total of 3 U.S. government agents, blackmailed their way to acquiring sensitive foreign intel, killed even more U.S. agents, shot a freaking government helicopter out of the sky, and broke into a secure government facility, killing a high ranking officer and many others in the process! Right now, China has no place to threaten us! In fact, I was disappointed how the U.S. was portrayed so spinelessly this season. China is committing multiple acts of war on U.S. soil, and all the government cares about is avoiding a dispute with the Russians?! If not for the Chinese, there wouldn't be any dispute! I know Lennox said in the end that the Chinese will have to answer for their actions, but that the government was just letting the Chinese push them around all day was embarrassing.
DLCPhoto 05-25-07, 08:09 AM I searched this thread, and wasn't able to find this addressed, but was it ever clarified who, other than Chad Lowe, who was ultimately behind the assassination attempt? He was obviously taking orders from somone else, and as far as I can recall, the primary figure(s) behind this were never identified.
Is this known, and I missed it, or is it unresolved (intentionally or unintentionally)?
Thanks.
NorthJersey 05-25-07, 10:15 AM I searched this thread, and wasn't able to find this addressed, but was it ever clarified who, other than Chad Lowe, who was ultimately behind the assassination attempt? He was obviously taking orders from somone else, and as far as I can recall, the primary figure(s) behind this were never identified.
Is this known, and I missed it, or is it unresolved (intentionally or unintentionally)?
Thanks.
I thought that it was tied back to Graham (brother) and Philip (father) Bauer
kucharsk 05-26-07, 03:46 PM Graem and Philip were behind the assassination of David Palmer and the deaths of Tony and Michelle.
They never explained who may have been pulling Chad Lowe's strings; that's what future seasons are for. :D
Deamon Speeding 05-27-07, 04:16 PM What's the scoop with Milo's brother coming to CTU without any escort at around 5am and then disapearing without telling anyone? The way I see it either the writers had 5 minutes left to kill or that guy will be back in next season...
TwinTurboZX 05-27-07, 06:22 PM The ending was very well done. It was very much like the ending to season 3 showing Jack's human side. It was very deep, emotional, and interesting.
Now, to all those people who are saying that they have watched this show since Day 1 and are now bailing out... GOOD RIDDANCE!! You were probably never a fan of the show to begin with, and at least we won't have to hear you continuously bitch and moan in the Day 7 thread.
What's the scoop with Milo's brother coming to CTU without any escort at around 5am and then disapearing without telling anyone? The way I see it either the writers had 5 minutes left to kill or that guy will be back in next season...
That was weird!
The head of CTU says 'Go see who that is...'
Well I missed the final 2 hours. Someone erased it off my dvr :mad: . Does anyone know if I can watch it online?
bobby94928 06-02-07, 01:10 PM Well I missed the final 2 hours. Someone erased it off my dvr :mad: . Does anyone know if I can watch it online?
http://www.myspace.com/24
noleintheburg 06-03-07, 05:21 PM Well here is the season 7 premise....not really a spoiler, because it will be everywhere soon enough:
"What would Jack Bauer do if he met those responsible...for everything?"
Met those responsible... for everything? So he really did jump off that cliff and die. He's in heaven now, and we'll see him meeting God, Jesus, scientists, every dead world leader both good and bad. 24 really is changing!
kucharsk 06-03-07, 11:47 PM Sounds like an episode of South Park:
Jack Bauer meets God… and Jack's pissed.
I guess everyone responsible will be located within an hour of CTU...because everyone knows you can't have 24 without it being in LA and at CTU...
aranganath 06-04-07, 09:43 AM I guess everyone responsible will be located within an hour of CTU...because everyone knows you can't have 24 without it being in LA and at CTU...
Unless there is no more CTU, which I think is a strong possibility for the next season.
Well, if there's no more CTU, where will Chloe have her baby? In a hospital? :eek:
Well, if there's no more CTU, where will Chloe have her baby? In a hospital? :eek:
No 24 is never that reasonable...
No more CTU? Did the 19th Terrorist strike-force to storm the place in the past 6 months finally succeed in blowing it up (completely)?
WilliamR 06-05-07, 08:15 AM Anyone watching those debriefs on fox.com? I keep seeing commercials for them.
noleintheburg 06-05-07, 08:49 AM I've watched them they really don't add much, except prove Jack didn't jump off the cliff.
WilliamR 06-05-07, 11:47 AM I've watched them they really don't add much, except prove Jack didn't jump off the cliff.
Well, that is a good thing then I guess. Depends on how you look at it. :D
This past season was my first season watching 24. I just started watching season 1 on DVD (first 2 hours). Can I assume that everyone but Jack from season 1 is dead, or looks so different that I didn't recognize him/her?
archiguy 06-21-07, 09:39 AM This past season was my first season watching 24. I just started watching season 1 on DVD (first 2 hours). Can I assume that everyone but Jack from season 1 is dead, or looks so different that I didn't recognize him/her?
Yes, except for Milo (Eric Balfour). He was brought back for the dismal S-6 for no apparent reason other than to be involved in some pointless, clock-killing romantic melodrama and then get unceremoniously killed off. :rolleyes:
Does Milo have the 70s porn star mustache in season 1? I didn't see him in the first 2 hours.
I agree that Season Six was by far the weakest in 24’s run. Still, I was entertained because I still get a kick out of its combination of over-the-top preposterousness, which amuses me, and watching its fine ensemble cast playing the silly situations with straight-faced earnestness. It’s a winning combination, which explains why they are ramping up for Season Seven, I suppose.
I hadn’t thought of how few of the Season One cast are still around. That they are mostly all gone now makes sense because you never know whose body is going to be the next to fall on 24. The only given is that a LOT of bodies will fall. :)
WilliamR 06-21-07, 10:38 AM Anything new in those on-line debriefs?
wmessin 06-21-07, 11:57 AM Anything new in those on-line debriefs?
not really, except they hint at the fact that Agent Burke (the guy with the needles) either crazy loves his needles, or is part of a conspiracy. Oh, and Jack apparently doesn't jump off the cliff.
Jack leaves pretty pissed off at his being questioned about the death of another agent. It doesn't really setup anything new for season 7, which makes sense since not everyone will see the mobisodes.
Jones moves into '24' Oval Office
By Nellie Andreeva The Hollywood Reporter July 21, 2007
Cherry Jones has been appointed president on the upcoming season of "24," sources said.
The network wouldn't confirm, but sources said Jones has come on board the real-time thriller, the first major casting addition to the show's upcoming seventh season.
"24" producers had been contemplating having a female president next season for some time. (HR 6/22)
Their decision to go for it adds another wrinkle to the closely watched Democratic Party's presidential race, in which Hillary Clinton is the frontrunner.
Production of the 20th Century Fox TV/Imagine TV-produced "24" was recently delayed until August when a set-in-Africa storyline fell through and the producers went back to the drawing board.
Jones' feature credits include "Ocean's Twelve" and "The Village."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i54b0908a60497eb9db8bc893f4cc6828
nikeykid 07-21-07, 01:10 PM waittttttttt what set-in africa storyline?? they could barely do a storyline in san fran.... lollllll.
Shouldn't a new topic be created for Day 7?
If they had to scrap the storyline and start over, that's not a good sign.
luckytwn 07-22-07, 10:37 PM waittttttttt what set-in africa storyline?? they could barely do a storyline in san fran.... lollllll.
They were actually planning to go to Africa to shoot on location. The problem is when the network ran the numbers, it was going to be incredibly expensive and nixed the plan. That is why they had to scrap the storyline. They did consider trying to shoot in California but find locations that could stand-in for Africa but ultimately decided it wouldn't work.
“24” production clock stopped
By Nellie Andreeva The Hollywood Reporter
The seventh season of Fox's Emmy-winning "24" is facing another production delay.
The real-time drama starring Kiefer Sutherland that was scheduled to start filming Aug. 27, will now begin shooting Sept. 10 so that the writers can complete enough scripts for the new seasonlong plot.
Production start on 20th Century Fox TV/Imagine TV's "24" originally was pushed from late July-early August to Aug. 27 when the producers' original set-in-Africa story line fell through and they went back to the drawing board.
There has been only one new casting on the show so far -- Cherry Jones as the U.S. president -- with a couple of other deals at different stages.
"24" is going through a major revamping this year after coming off a lackluster sixth season.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3id91feee4bbb8d44096fba916e08ec292
jonnythan 08-16-07, 09:54 AM So they're writing all of the scripts before it starts filming??
Shocking!
And awesome :D
And a good sign. The earlier seasons were mostly prewritten or at least they had a good idea of where the season would go. They admitted that while they winged most of the writing on season 4 and it turned out all right, it hasn't been working very well seasons since that one.
And a good sign. The earlier seasons were mostly prewritten or at least they had a good idea of where the season would go. They admitted that while they winged most of the writing on season 4 and it turned out all right, it hasn't been working very well seasons since that one.
except for maybe season 5 when they won an Emmy?
i think last season was the first one that was universally disliked....
CPanther95 08-16-07, 01:18 PM The hype for Season 5 was greatly exaggerated IMO.
perhaps, but last season makes season 5 look like the greatest season in the history of television!!!!
They need the scripts in case the writers go on strike.
With "24" can we even tell the difference? :p
:eek::rolleyes: Oh boy…. if you thought the show was tanking last season…:rolleyes:
Time right for Garofalo on '24'By Nellie Andreeva
Aug 21, 2007
Hollywood Reporter
The political left and the political right are going to meet on Fox's "24" this coming season.
Actress-comedian Janeane Garofalo, an outspoken liberal, is set to co-star on the conservative-leaning real-time drama, whose co-creator/executive producer Joel Surnow jokingly describes himself as a "right-wing nut job."
On the Imagine TV/20th Century Fox TV series, Garofalo will play a government agent who is part of the team investigating the crisis befalling Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) and company in the upcoming season.
Garofalo is the second major cast addition to the action drama, which is going through a major revamping coming off a lackluster sixth season. Cherry Jones was tapped last month to play the new president (HR 7/21).
After two production delays related to major changes to the story line, "24" is now slated to begin production on its seventh season Sept. 10 (HR 8/16).
Garofalo's most recent TV series gig was a role on "The West Wing," Aaron Sorkin's left-leaning White house drama for NBC.
She starred on CBS' legal drama pilot presentation from Barry Schindel this past development season and lended her voice to the hit Walt Disney Co./Pixar animated feature "Ratatouille." She next appears in the Lifetime telefilm "Binky."
On the political side, Garofalo has been a vocal critic of the Iraq War. She also did a stint as a co-host on liberal radio network Air America.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i35dfa8e5f7b68d261cee24ae98a6f0a9
Garofalo can be quite funny, but "24" is not in need of a comedienne at this point. I think she can contribute to a successful season of "24," if -- and only if -- the writers get things back on track with an exciting and engaging storyline. Last season had too few genuinely thrilling moments.
bobby94928 08-21-07, 11:28 AM Garofalo can be quite funny, but "24" is not in need of a comedienne at this point. I think she can contribute to a successful season of "24," if -- and only if -- the writers get things back on track with an exciting and engaging storyline. Last season had too few genuinely thrilling moments.
Keep in mind that Mary Lynn Rajskup who plays Chloe O'Brian is also a comedienne. She hasn't raised a laugh since starting her 24 venture....
Garofalo can be quite funny, but "24" is not in need of a comedienne at this point.
I wouldn't mind a smart snarky female character that could challenge Bauer's one track mind and interrupt his constant yelling at people who get in his way. Rajskup's Chloe mostly made sour faces and snapped at people in between talking technobabble while doing exactly what Jack tells her to do.
And if Surnow gets tired of her, he'll just bump her character off.
And with that, another member of the Larry Sanders cast joins the 24 cast:
Penny Johnson
Janeane Garofalo
Mary Lynn Rajskub
Megan Gallagher.
Well, we should see Gary Shandling as the Director of CTU! "Uh, Jack, I'd kinda like for you to go apprehend this terrorist, but, if you don't feel like it..."
StrangeCock 08-21-07, 04:56 PM "Hey now!"
Harley_Dude 08-22-07, 09:50 AM Keep in mind that Mary Lynn Rajskup who plays Chloe O'Brian is also a comedienne. She hasn't raised a laugh since starting her 24 venture....
She was a cast member on the short lived 2005 comedy series "Kelsey Grammer Presents: The Sketch Show". (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0412161/)
I will hold out comment until I see her in action...she wasn't bad on The West Wing...but I honestly can't see her working on 24...that is if I even decide to watch it this season
archiguy 08-22-07, 10:20 AM I will hold out comment until I see her in action...she wasn't bad on The West Wing...but I honestly can't see her working on 24...that is if I even decide to watch it this season
She's a good actress. She'll do fine. But I can't see her hanging out with Surnow over drinks. :rolleyes:
But I'm not sure I buy all the "right-wing nut-job" talk about Surnow anyway. Remember, S-4's plotline was all about a right-wing President who plots to gin up an invasion of an nonthreatening oil-rich nation in order to get his hands on their oil supplies. And good ol' Jack Bauer, always politically neutral just like we'd hope he would be, broke up the plot and brought him down. And Limbaugh & Company somehow didn't see fit to denounce the season as leftie propaganda, either; in fact, I believe they held a symposium to offer praise and accolades. Talk about surreal..... :p
Arch, Limbaugh and Surnow are friends, and Limbaugh understands that the writing on "24" is not agenda-driven, but is motivated by other factors. Namely, how do we interest the most viewers to tune in?
archiguy 08-22-07, 11:10 AM Arch, Limbaugh and Surnow are friends, and Limbaugh understands that the writing on "24" is not agenda-driven, but is motivated by other factors. Namely, how do we interest the most viewers to tune in?
Oh, I know; it's just a shame life can't imitate art. ;) But if any other network had done a similar storyline, you can just imagine the outrage. Rush would still be purple about it. :p
...I believe they held a symposium to offer praise and accolades.
My head is still recovering...
http://russellarch.com/uploaded_images/rushkiss-750336.jpg
Sorry for spoiling your appetite, folks.
CPanther95 08-22-07, 11:21 AM Love to see Sorkin do a right-leaning program just to screw with people's heads. :)
I think Surnow gets his conservative satisfaction exclusively from the Bauer character and doesn't feel the need to have it permeate every message that the show delivers. However, regardless of how open minded he is in the plots he develops - there needs to be more attention paid to Day 7. Political leaning either way wasn't the problem last season (or the one before - but I think I'm pretty alone in being critical of Day 5) the problem was they seemed to get lazy in developing a quality overall plot and thinking they could just recycle a bunch of mini-plots throughout the season.
CPanther95 08-22-07, 11:22 AM My head is still recovering...
http://russellarch.com/uploaded_images/rushkiss-750336.jpg
Sorry for spoiling your appetite, folks.
How the heck did that situation come about?
How the heck did that situation come about?
Mary Lynn was on Letterman a while back and she said that he came up behind her and when she turned around to see who it was, he kissed her.
archiguy 08-22-07, 12:09 PM How the heck did that situation come about?
The conservative Heritage Foundation held a symposium to celebrate all things '24' about a year back. It's their favorite show. All the big right-wingers were there, including the likes of Clarence Thomas. Rush moderated the gala event (oops, probably shouldn't use that adjective when talking about those guys). You didn't hear about that, CP? Your invite must have gotten lost in the mail. ;) :p
Mary Lynn was on Letterman a while back and she said that he came up behind her and when she turned around to see who it was, he kissed her.
Hope she's had all her shots. :D
How the heck did that situation come about?
Apparently, is wasn’t planned.
But the next story she tells topped them all. She was invited to participate in a conference run by the Heritage Foundation entitled: "24 and Terrorism: Fact, Fiction, or Does it Matter?" Rajskub reported the title (it's f'reals, believe it or not) to a disbelieving crowd with a scream of anguish.
Soon enough she found herself in Washington DC, talking in chambers with Clarence Thomas. She described her brain as floating away from her body due to the surreality of it all; and that the subject of her conversation with a supreme court justice was, of all things, her art, and why (in her words) it "looks kind of like the art of a retarded adult."
When it was time for the panel, she found herself being introduced by Rush Limbaugh. Then she found herself being kissed by Rush Limbaugh. On the lips. The pictures of the kiss made news around the world. "Chloe and Rush Limbaugh are dating!" she crowed. It led her to imagine what it would be like if he really was her boyfriend.
Rajskub is at ease about political affiliations; it's everyone around her who gets up in arms about the implications of the show she's on. She reported a phone call she got from an ex who was less than happy with the photo he saw in his local paper. "When he kissed you, did you feel him sucking your soul out of your mouth?" he asked.
http://themlrfanclub.com/blog/2007/04/complications-of-purchasing-poodle.html
She does seem ditzy in THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMKso6yDZN0&mode=related&search=) clip from Jay Leno – but what a bod! Just the type you'd like to have that one night stand with.:)
archiguy 08-22-07, 12:35 PM She does seem ditzy in THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMKso6yDZN0&mode=related&search=) clip from Jay Leno – but what a bod! Just the type you'd like to have that one night stand with.:)
She is adorable. From what I understand, she made her bones through improv comedy, not the easiest gig. That bit about dating her therapist probably came out of her stand-up act. Funny and smart; no wonder Rush wanted to kiss her. In his line of work, he probably doesn't meet too many gals like that. :p
Radio talkers don't meet funny & smart women? I can't quite connect the dots on that one.
archiguy 08-22-07, 12:50 PM Radio talkers don't meet funny & smart women? I can't quite connect the dots on that one.
I didn't say all radio talkers; but considering his female guests usually run along the lines of Ann Coulter.... :eek: Who would you rather make out with? ;)
Well, Arch, Limbaugh does not have guests as a general rule. And Ann Coulter is quite lovely, as well as being both funny and smart. So I'm still not tracking with the original contention.
Regardless, it looks like the "24" producers/writers are trying to shake things up a bit this season, which is welcomed. Last season was a bit stale.
archiguy 08-22-07, 01:47 PM Well, Arch, Limbaugh does not have guests as a general rule. And Ann Coulter is quite lovely, as well as being both funny and smart. So I'm still not tracking with the original contention.
Regardless, it looks like the "24" producers/writers are trying to shake things up a bit this season, which is welcomed. Last season was a bit stale.
UK, if you actually really believe that Ann Coulter is lovely, funny, and smart (I'd give her one out of three to be charitable), then it's not surprising you're having trouble tracking with the original contention. We best leave it at that. ;)
I do agree with you on the need to shake up the show though. It's always (well, at least since the second season) been derivative, but last season was dull as well, and that's the kiss of death. It's hard-core nugget of fans, as referenced above, will never abandon it however, so it's safe to assume that Mr. Surnow will be able to end the show on his own terms, whenever he wishes that to be.
jonnythan 08-22-07, 01:56 PM Ann Coulter is funny, smart, and pretty hot. I don't see how anyone can argue with that.
Well, maybe "hot" is overstating things. But still.
CPanther95 08-22-07, 02:07 PM I'd give her a "very hot" before she lost so much weight. Now she's all skin and bones.
archiguy 08-22-07, 02:07 PM Ann Coulter is funny, smart, and pretty hot. I don't see how anyone can argue with that.
Well, maybe "hot" is overstating things. But still.
Maybe it's that black hole where her soul ought to be that influences the perception. She says some pretty disgusting stuff with great regularity (and no, there's really not anyone remotely like her on the other side, thank goodness), and is celebrated for it in certain circles.
CPanther95 08-22-07, 02:14 PM (and no, there's really not anyone remotely like her on the other side, thank goodness),
Not to get off on a political tangent, but that's laughable. There's many (too many) on both sides that say some very vile, disgusting things about the opposition.
I guess everyone hears only what they want to hear.
Not to get off on a political tangent, but that's laughable. There's many (too many) on both sides that say some very vile, disgusting things about the opposition.
I guess everyone hears only what they want to hear.
what he said.
Bill Maher is every bit as vitriolic as Ann Coulter, just not as easy to look at.
She is adorable. From what I understand, she made her bones through improv comedy, not the easiest gig. That bit about dating her therapist probably came out of her stand-up act. Funny and smart; no wonder Rush wanted to kiss her. In his line of work, he probably doesn't meet too many gals like that. :p
She was on Mr. Show with Bob and David way back on HBO...she's really funny
archiguy 08-22-07, 02:39 PM what he said.
Bill Maher is every bit as vitriolic as Ann Coulter, just not as easy to look at.
Actually, no, he's not (and, he has the advantage of speaking the truth; and he's funny). Look, I could pull some classic Coulter quotes to illustrate the point (remember what she said about the 9/11 widows being happy their husbands were dead? Ugh.), but I'd rather not pollute the thread with that sludge. Trust me, she's out there more or less on an island, for a woman especially. The worst of the worst.
jonnythan 08-22-07, 02:52 PM I have to agree.
I despise partisan politics, I really do. There are galactic morons on both sides of the equation. These people are simply pawns in the politicians' game of dividing the electorate and laughing all the way to the bank while the sides fight each other. I've got no horse in this game - I never vote for either of the major parties except in rare circumstances, and I've been known to go both ways.
That being said, Maher is *nowhere near* Coulter. Coulter is a total wackjob who admires McCarthy. Maher may be misguided sometimes, but he's at least in this reality and is open to having his opinions challenged.
There's many (too many) on both sides that say some very vile, disgusting things about the opposition.
I guess everyone hears only what they want to hear.
And generally speaking, most of what they say isn’t true; it’s said to shake the beehive. But as you say, they hear what they want to hear truth be damned.
...I'd rather not pollute the thread ...:p too late for that Arch... you've made your point in spades today... :D
Coulter delights in her lightning-rod status, and I can understand why that's a turn-off. But I reject every contention that claims she acts hateful or that she's factually inaccurate in her pronouncements. The example used by archiguy a few posts up is illustrative. "Ugh!" is exactly right, but that was Coulter's reaction to what she heard from some people...she quoted them, revealed the conclusion it suggested, and reacted in disbelief/disgust. As for her intelligence, I'm certain none of her "opponents" are eager to debate the merits of her arguments, even on paper, when her harsh tone is necessarily mitigated. She is very adept at researching topics in media, particularly via the Lexis-Nexis resource. ... Concur with CP that she looks less attractive now that she's skinnier.
... As for her intelligence, I'm certain none of her "opponents" are eager to debate the merits of her arguments, even on paper, when her harsh tone is necessarily mitigated. She is very adept at researching topics in media, particularly via the Lexis-Nexis resource.You’re absolutely correct. ;)
On another note, I believe that a smart producer should have coerced AC into the Rosie spot, on The View. This would be a ratings bonanza. And…better yet… keep Rosie and Whoopie on-- and let all of them try and debate AC.:cool:
But I reject every contention that claims she acts hateful or that she's factually inaccurate in her pronouncements. I'm certain none of her "opponents" are eager to debate the merits of her arguments, even on paper, when her harsh tone is necessarily mitigated. She is very adept at researching topics in media, particularly via the Lexis-Nexis resource...
I guess everyone hears only what they want to hear.
:)
archiguy 08-22-07, 03:39 PM The example used by archiguy a few posts up is illustrative. "Ugh!" is exactly right, but that was Coulter's reaction to what she heard from some people...she quoted them, revealed the conclusion it suggested, and reacted in disbelief/disgust.
The thing is, only someone who's as pathologically disturbed as she could come up with the "suggestion" that those poor women who had lost so much could actually wish their husbands dead. She's said so much of that kind of stuff, that even if she has any well-reasoned positions (I've never read any - only more of that kind of thing) they would get lost in all the screeching bile.
Look, I understand she's attractive to some for reasons I and others can't begin to fathom. Let's just leave it at that and get back to '24', huh? At least we can all agree last season was substandard and they need to kick it up a notch.
archiguy 08-22-07, 03:43 PM On another note, I believe that a smart producer should have coerced AC into the Rosie spot, on The View. This would be a ratings bonanza. And…better yet… keep Rosie and Whoopie on-- and let all of them try and debate AC.:cool:
Boy, would that be a free-for-all. Somebody would end up dead. :p
Coulter delights in her lightning-rod status, and I can understand why that's a turn-off. But I reject every contention that claims she acts hateful or that she's factually inaccurate in her pronouncements. The example used by archiguy a few posts up is illustrative. "Ugh!" is exactly right, but that was Coulter's reaction to what she heard from some people...she quoted them, revealed the conclusion it suggested, and reacted in disbelief/disgust. As for her intelligence, I'm certain none of her "opponents" are eager to debate the merits of her arguments, even on paper, when her harsh tone is necessarily mitigated. She is very adept at researching topics in media, particularly via the Lexis-Nexis resource. ... Concur with CP that she looks less attractive now that she's skinnier.
Coulter's arguments are easily debunked but she is good at researching her topics and then cherry picking that research for information that can be taken out of context. What ever you feel about her appearance is not relevant. No one's appearance is ever relevant.
Coulter's arguments are easily debunked but she is good at researching her topics and then cherry picking that research for information that can be taken out of context. What ever you feel about her appearance is not relevant. No one's appearance is ever relevant.
no one's appearance is ever relevant? are you a monk?
no one's appearance is ever relevant? are you a monk?
Thank you for providing an excellent example of a statement taken out of context. A person's appearance is never relevant to the validity of their arguments.
Thank you for providing an excellent example of a statement taken out of context. A person's appearance is never relevant to the validity of their arguments.
Unless their argument is that they are better looking than you. :D:)
Good article in the News thread about Season 7
No more CTU
No more LA
No more Muslim Terrorist
I'm getting more excited
CPanther95 08-22-07, 05:45 PM Thank God. The idea of muslim terrorists is just so far-fetched. ;)
Just don't get rid of the torture - that's Jack's calling card and the source of some of the best scenes over the years.
Good article in the News thread about Season 7
No more CTU
No more LA
No more Muslim Terrorist
I'm getting more excited
Me, too. Totally revamping the thing is their only chance - it was the only way they were going to get me back.
No more CTU, LA, or Muslim Terrorists; what about large wild cats stalking nubile teenage daughters of the hero? We must all admit that is the iconic memory-making moment of the entire series!
No more CTU, LA, or Muslim Terrorists; what about large wild cats stalking nubile teenage daughters of the hero? We must all admit that is the iconic memory-making moment of the entire series!
It really is, we need to have more of that.. :p:D
archiguy 08-23-07, 08:03 AM Actually, I'm surprised they haven't tried to bring Kim back beyond that brief disjointed guest appearance in S-4. She was the best eye-candy this show ever had (especially when wearing [and running in] that "wife-beater" tee-shirt). Ah, good times. :)
I mean, they brought Milo back ferpetesake, only to kill him off merely for shock value.
Nachosgrande 08-23-07, 09:39 AM Can someone tell me where the 24 thread is?!?!?!!
Can someone tell me where the 24 thread is?!?!?!!
*Looks around*
*Whistles*
*Looks down*
Um I think we're in the 24 thread...
Can someone tell me where the 24 thread is?!?!?!!
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Actually, I'm surprised they haven't tried to bring Kim back beyond that brief disjointed guest appearance in S-4. She was the best eye-candy this show ever had (especially when wearing [and running in] that "wife-beater" tee-shirt). Ah, good times. :)
I have to point out that also she looked great digging that grave early in season one and the man (and it was a man) who wrote that scene is a genius.
that grave-digging scene was a transcendent thing of beauty.
kucharsk 08-25-07, 05:44 AM That being said, Maher is *nowhere near* Coulter. Coulter is a total wackjob who admires McCarthy. Maher may be misguided sometimes, but he's at least in this reality and is open to having his opinions challenged.
Hmmm... McCarthy said the government was infested with Communists, many of whom were feeding classified information to the Soviets with the intention of hurting the United States.
With the fall of the Soviet Union, we found out from KGB records that - oops! - he was right.
God, what a crackpot.
But aside from the fact that Maher is a blathering liberal idiot who wouldn't know the truth if it hit him in the face, what does any of this have to do with 24?
Now if we want to talk about how my biggest hope for season 7 is that Jack will get to shoot and kill Janeane Garafolo's character, that's a different story. :D
Hmmm... McCarthy said the government was infested with Communists, many of whom were feeding classified information to the Soviets with the intention of hurting the United States.
With the fall of the Soviet Union, we found out from KGB records that - oops! - he was right.
God, what a crackpot.
Joseph McCarthy was a disturbed egomaniac who trampled over the rights of innocent Americans in order to feed his own desperate need for power and attention. The fact spies did exist on both sides of the Cold War (how ever so shocking!) was coincidental. McCarthy didn't really care about Communists. He didn't care whether the people he was accusing were actually "anti-American" or not. All he cared about was himself, and destroying the principles of the US Constitution in order to make a name for himself and punish his detractors.
That anyone would still try to defend Joseph McCarthy in light of all the historical evidence about him is revolting. Shame on you.
kucharsk 08-26-07, 05:50 AM Yep, never mind that McCarthy was right, shame on me for pointing that fact out.
Do I approve of his methodology? Of course not. Were there Communists throughout the government and Hollywood? Damn straight. Their influence lives on in those Democrats (note, I didn't say all Democrats) and others on the far left who firmly believe America is the root of all evil in the world and if Communism and Socialism were just allowed to "work properly" the world would be a better place, and that can't happen until America is no more (think Sean Penn.) Were it not for McCarthy, would the subject of Communists in the American government have even been breached? I don't believe so.
Don't forget that Senator McCarthy was not in charge of the House Un-American Activities Committee, whose hearings most people associate with McCarthy. Let's also not pretend that Murrow's "exposé" of McCarthy wasn't driven as much by Murrow's desire to use the media to further his liberal ideals as to "show America the truth" about the man.
"Blacklisting?" Done entirely by Hollywood studios on their own, as much to hide their own liberal and Communist leanings as anything else, yet the heads of those studios get a wash. Instead, McCarthy gets the blame for "destroying" people like Dalton Trumbo, who records show actually was a member of the Communist Party.
But once again, this has nothing to do with 24, so if you want to take this to PMs or elsewhere I'll be thrilled to continue this conversation; if we continue here we'll just get this thread locked.
Actually, no, he's not (and, he has the advantage of speaking the truth; and he's funny).
Well it's not like he openly wished that the VP was killed in a terrorist attack.:rolleyes:
There are lots of actors with ideotic political views. Fortunately, on this show, we only have to listen to what the writers make them say.
I think it's time for a new thread for Day 7.
Well it's not like he openly wished that the VP was killed in a terrorist attack.:rolleyes:
He didn’t. It was taken completely out of context. He even went on Bill O’s show, and we all know Bill O would have blown him away for making such a statement, but he didn’t have a problem with what Maher said because he never said it. Sheez! BTW, the sun will rise in the West tomorrow and set in the East. There, I said it and you read it, so it has to be true.:rolleyes:
Next week’s revisionist’s hero: Adolph Hitler :rolleyes:
It was taken completely out of context. Out of context?...well.... I think we all got his joke...and his message....
Here is the exact quote...
"I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn’t be dying needlessly tomorrow ... I’m just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGsHB7Hjpi4
...well.... I think we all got his joke...and his message....
You can read into it whatever you need to read into it, but he wasn’t advocating Cheney’s assassination. Here’s Maher on Bill O’s show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QO4jaKG27o
Bill O talking about calling people names is hilarious. I guess he never listens to the names that fly out of his mouth and those on right-wing hate radio. What people have called Clinton and Carter are mild compared to what Maher says about Bush or Cheney.
That’ll be it for me. We all believe what we believe, and no amount of posting will change that. :)
That’ll be it for me. We all believe what we believe, and no amount of posting will change that. :)It’s a very politically charged day here at AVS… and I certainly don’t want to turn up the juice, since it’s not going to accomplish anything here.;)
kucharsk 08-27-07, 01:57 PM Bill O talking about calling people names is hilarious. I guess he never listens to the names that fly out of his mouth and those on right-wing hate radio.
As opposed to the hate-filled statements on say, Daily Kos.
hdjeff724 08-27-07, 10:57 PM I'm a big 24 fan. I'll be looking forward to Season 7, and hoping that it's much, much better than Season 6.
kucharsk 08-27-07, 11:44 PM I'm a big 24 fan. I'll be looking forward to Season 7, and hoping that it's much, much better than Season 6.
Amen.
I didn't think Season 6 was as horrid as many, but after Season 5, it was a big, big let down.
It also may have to do that the first four hours or so got the season off to such a strong start, so when we saw the same old setups coming it just provoked a "I know where this is going" reaction.
The fact that they effectively neutered Chloe's character didn't help, either.
I mean, did anyone not know Phillip was going to be the season's bad guy from the minute we met him? (As in, did anyone really not know that the "kidnapping" of Jack and Phillip was a setup from the get-go?)
It also may have to do that the first four hours or so got the season off to such a strong start, so when we saw the same old setups coming it just provoked a "I know where this is going" reaction.
If 24 is good at anything, it's starting the season off with something that looks like is going to unique and fantastic. Every season started off with enough mystery and intrigue to last half a season. It's that second wind that they've failed at so many times.
I never thought 24 would be on for more than a few seasons. It's an exciting and innovative show, but the scenario is necessarily limited. It is literally the "ticking time bomb" scenario, and that can only be replayed so many times and remain fresh.
Well, last season was my first. I enjoyed it enough that this summer we've been going through the season 1-4 DVDs. We have 7 more hours of season 4 left.
It's interesting to see how much cast turnover there is.
Since there's always some member of CTU dating another member, I'm predicting that Chloe and Jenine Garafolo's character will start dating. This will be even more cringe-inducing than all of the torture scenes combined.
As opposed to the hate-filled statements on say, Daily Kos.
IMO.. both sides are idiots.
Bill O and the Daily Kos.. basically both the extreme left, and the extreme right can all go to "you know what" :D
timick1 09-25-07, 03:41 PM Kiefer Busted on DUI
There's nothing Jack Bauer can't handle. Kiefer Sutherland, on the other hand...
The 24 star was arrested for misdemeanor driving under the influence in the early-morning hours Tuesday, after failing a field sobriety test, the Los Angeles Police Department said.
Sutherland was stopped at the corner of La Cienega and Beverly at 1:35 a.m., after officers spotted the Emmy winner making an illegal U-turn. After making the stop, the officers issued the actor a field sobriety test, which he failed.
"It would be premature to comment at this time," Sutherland's publicist, Evelyn Karamanos, said of the incident.
According to police, the Breathalyzer revealed the 40-year-old's blood-alcohol level to be more than twice the legal limit of 0.08, TMZ reported.
Earlier in the night, the actor, along with fellow network talent, was spotted at the Fox Fall Eco-Casino party, held at the nearby Area nightclub.
LAPD officers arrested the actor at the scene and transported him to the Hollywood police station, where he was formally booked on the misdemeanor charges at 4:09 a.m.
He was released at 5:42 a.m. after posting $25,000 bail, according to the L.A. County Sheriff's Deparment Website. TMZ reported that authorities deemed Sutherland "cooperative and mellow" during the encounter.
The arrest marks Sutherland's second DUI in the past five years. He was also busted in September 2004 and pleaded no contest. He was sentenced to 60 months' probation and 50 hours of community service. As he is now a repeat offender, if he's convicted on his current charge, he must serve a mandatory minimum of five days in jail.
The actor is due in court on Oct. 16.
Meanwhile, despite its inauspicious beginning, the day won't be a complete washout for Sutherland.
The Canadian-reared thesp is set to receive the Excellence Award from the Alliance of Canadian Cinema, Television and Radio Artists in an afternoon reception scheduled to take place at the Los Angeles home of the Consul General of Canada, Alain Dudoit. The prestigious honor is doled out only every two years to an ACTRA member working in L.A.
24 returns to the Fox schedule in January.
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Kiefer Busted on DUI
According to police, the Breathalyzer revealed the 40-year-old's blood-alcohol level to be more than twice the legal limit of 0.08, TMZ reported.
+1222 Respect Points...trying to drive at double the legal limit...thats something only Jack Bauer can do
+1222 Respect Points...trying to drive at double the legal limit...thats something only Jack Bauer can do
Respect points for drunk driving? Get a grip on reality!
Jeremy W 09-26-07, 03:38 AM Respect points for drunk driving? Get a grip on reality!
If Jack Bauer driving drunk is wrong, I don't want to be right.
archiguy 09-26-07, 08:49 AM There have been so many "incidents" where the Kiefster has made an ass of himself out in public that it's pretty clear the guy is an alcoholic. And that's just the ones that have been publicized. There was the time he knocked down the Christmas tree and passed out on the floor in a London hotel, the one where he tore up a bar on the road to Vegas, and several others. Usually he has his entourage of enablers and fellow party-animals with him. He's got a problem.
Since he was already on probation and the consequences are now serious, expect him to take the usually Hollywood remedy: Rehab! Preferably that one in Malibu that all the stars go to when they need favorable treatment from the courts. There will be a FOX PR machine press statement stating how sorry he is to everyone including his Mom. How he's now taking steps to deal with his "problem", etc. etc. The real question is: since these things usually take a month or so, what will that do to '24's' shooting schedule? My guess: his "treatment" will be deferred to the end of the season and his "probation" will continue indefinitely. That's the way it works, kids. ;)
Respect points for drunk driving? Get a grip on reality!
Kiefer can do no wrong in my book...
jonnythan 09-26-07, 03:03 PM I'll take Keifer driving drunk over Paris driving at all every day of the week and twice on Sunday ;)
Kiefer can do no wrong in my book...
Would you think he did wrong if he killed a member of your family while he was driving drunk.
jonnythan 09-26-07, 08:06 PM It was necessary to save the lives of thousands of Americans.
ricwhite 09-26-07, 08:24 PM Can they do a "home" arrest on the set of 24?
Would you think he did wrong if he killed a member of your family while he was driving drunk.
Depends...would I have gotten to meet him at the trial?
If so.................
SeattleAl 09-27-07, 12:30 PM I expect there will be a lot less driving around in SUVs next season, if Kiefer's driver license is suspended.
I expect there will be a lot less driving around in SUVs next season, if Kiefer's driver license is suspended.
And why's that? You think he's actually driving and acting at the same time?
Depends...would I have gotten to meet him at the trial?
If so.................
Why don't you just hang around the front gate of his house until he sets the dogs on you?
Between two earlier seasons, Jack had infiltrated a drug ring and became a user "for the team". Maybe the DUI is a tipoff on the new season ...Jack has infiltrated a group of moonshiners.
It would be funny in the middle of the season for Jack Bauer to get pulled over and arrested for driving with a suspended license right when Croatian terrorists are about to launch missiles at our hydroelectric dams to destroy our way of life.
I've been watching Showtime's Sleeper Cell (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0465353/) and it's so well done that it makes 24 look like a comic book.
Jeremy W 09-27-07, 06:59 PM It would be funny in the middle of the season for Jack Bauer to get pulled over and arrested for driving with a suspended license right when Croatian terrorists are about to launch missiles at our hydroelectric dams to destroy our way of life.
Do you really think Jack Bauer would pull over in that situation? He'd run the cops off the road first.
Do you really think Jack Bauer would pull over in that situation? He'd run the cops off the road first.
No, too risky. He'd talk to the officer using that velvet voice of his (those times he's not yelling) to convince him not to arrest him because of the Croatians and the missiles and the American Way of Life and so on. Then while the cop is doubled over laughing at this outlandish story, Bauer would karate chop him, handcuff him to a fence and steal his patrol car.
Then at the end of the season when Jack Bauer once again has saved the American Way of Life, he will have forgotten about that poor cop that is still handcuffed to the fence with a severe concussion.
SbWillie 09-27-07, 08:56 PM latest news is that due to recent events the show will be called .24!
Paris Hilton judge has Sutherland's case
City prosecutors also want to revoke the '24' star's probation from a 2004 arrest. He could face 18 months in jail.
By Richard Winton Los Angeles Times Staff Writer September 29, 2007
Kiefer Sutherland, as agent Jack Bauer on Fox TV's "24," has seen some pretty tough nemeses.
But when city prosecutors Friday charged the actor with two counts of drunk driving and accused him of violating parole in a prior DUI case, they thrust him into the courtroom of the judge who sent Paris Hilton to jail and, when the sheriff let her out early, sent her, sobbing, right back.
Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer, amid the Hilton circus, declared that he didn't "care to be DUI judge to the stars."
But when Sutherland is arraigned Oct. 16, his case may become another showdown between the judge and Sheriff Lee Baca. Like Hilton, Sutherland is accused of violating his DUI probation. He faces a potential 18 months in jail.
When Baca released Hilton because of an undisclosed medical reason after she served three days of her 45-day sentence, Sauer sent her back.
For years, judges have watched, frustrated, as the sheriff has slashed sentences to alleviate jail overcrowding
"The only strategy is really throw yourself on the mercy of the judge. This is not a judge who is going to go easy on a celebrity," Loyola law professor Laurie Levinson, a former prosecutor, said of Sutherland's case.
"His attorney could seek to remove the judge [from the case]. But if you shoot the king and miss, there will be consequences."
Sutherland, 40, was charged with driving a vehicle under the influence and having a blood alcohol level above the 0.08% state limit after his arrest early Tuesday in Hollywood.
City attorney's spokesman Nick Velasquez said prosecutors also were seeking to revoke Sutherland's probation from a 2004 arrest.
The actor faces up to a year in jail if convicted on the new charges and six months for any probation violation.
Because of the prior conviction, Velasquez said, if convicted, "Mr. Sutherland must serve a minimum of 96 hours in jail."
Sutherland's attorney, Blair Berk, would not comment.
The actor has been convicted of or pleaded no contest to alcohol-related charges three times locally since 1989.
Paul Burglin, a DUI defense attorney and one of the authors of the book "California Drunk Driving Law," said Sutherland may be far better off than Hilton was because the public perception of the heiress was that "she was flouting the orders of the court" by driving without a license.
Still, he said, Sutherland may get a 30- to 60-day sentence. Burglin said the jail time could be served in home detention or at treatment facility.
But Burglin said a judge can exclude a defendant from such alternatives. This was the case with Hilton's sentence.
If there are no technical problems with the prosecution's case, Burglin said, Sutherland's lawyer may consider getting him to enroll him in a residential treatment program.
He said the judge should take into account Sutherland's prior performance on probation, including meeting such requirements as attending classes.
According to police, Sutherland was pulled over about 1:30 a.m. Tuesday near La Cienega and Beverly boulevards after making an illegal U-turn.
He was arrested after failing a breath analysis, allegedly registering over the legal blood-alcohol limit.
Court records show Sutherland was convicted of alcohol-related reckless driving in 1989 and 1993.
In November 2004, he pleaded no contest to one misdemeanor count of driving under the influence and was sentenced to 60 months of probation and 50 hours of community service and ordered to attend an alcohol treatment program.
He won a best actor Emmy last year for his work in "24," which is scheduled to return to the Fox lineup in January.
Sutherland, who was raised in Canada, received the Award of Excellence on Tuesday from the Alliance of Canadian Cinema, Television and Radio Artists, an actors union, for his contribution to fellow Canadian performers and the entertainment industry.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/celebrity/la-me-sutherland29sep29,1,4045208,print.story?coll=la-celebrity-news
POWERFUL 09-29-07, 11:00 PM Lost in all this is that Carlos Bernard is returning as Tony Almeida in season 7 of 24. This is not a spoiler as its been reported in the media.
The actor has been convicted of or pleaded no contest to alcohol-related charges three times locally since 1989.
So Kiefer's used to getting arrested for drunken rampages with few consequences. He'll probably get a few hours of community service and go straight back to drinking again.
ricwhite 09-30-07, 01:06 PM So Kiefer's used to getting arrested for drunken rampages with few consequences. He'll probably get a few hours of community service and go straight back to drinking again.
Kiefer's going to jail this time. I guarantee it. The only question is how long? If guilty (which is a given) the range is from 4 days mandatory to 1 year. However, there is also a parole violation thing that can tack on another 6 months. My guess, is that he'll be sentenced to around 3-4 months.
It might be a good time to write Bauer out of the series which he's been wanting to do for several years now.
archiguy 09-30-07, 08:13 PM Don't count on the Kiefster serving a single day, at least until this season of '24' wraps. FOX will put lots of money and lots of legal talent behind this and the pressure on the judge will be immense (all behind the scenes of course). They'll "work something out" to allow '24' to continue filming with Jack Bauer at the helm, count on it. The American judicial system has long been defined by how much money one can throw at a case. You got enough cash, you win, simple as that. In this case, the defense team's resources are virtually unlimited. FOX has big-time commitments involving their scripted dramas. That judge wouldn't dare upset that high-priced apple cart; no way, no how.
ricwhite 09-30-07, 08:35 PM Don't count on the Kiefster serving a single day, at least until this season of '24' wraps.
There's too much attention right now on "stars" and DUI for them to let him off. In fact, the "pressure" is so great right now to prosecute "stars" who break the law, that they may even go over board to prevent people from claiming he got special treatment. With his DUI reckless in 98 and his DUI conviction in 04 (which he is still on probation for) and now his arrest in 07 for DUI, I don't think there's ANY chance he'll get off.
Now, whether they'll wait to have him serve his sentence until AFTER 24 is done filming this season we'll just have to wait to see. I think that would be fair. But in that case, he better start canceling his summer plans.
ricwhite 10-09-07, 11:53 PM Sutherland plea deal includes a 48 day jail time. Saw it coming.
http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=2007-10-10T011856Z_01_N09404352_RTRIDST_0_ENTERTAINMENT-SUTHERLAND-COL.XML
hansol89 10-10-07, 02:13 AM so will Jack be riding a 10-speed around next season or using a bus to chase terrorists?
so will Jack be riding a 10-speed around next season or using a bus to chase terrorists?
That's true. After all, once someone points out that Jack has broken the rules, he follows them religiously! :p
rsambuca 10-10-07, 11:02 AM I think the resurrected Tony Almeida will be driving Jack around a lot for the second half of the season! I can hear it already:
"Dammit Tony, we don't have time for this. Just take the keys and drive!"
"He told us that even if he had to sacrifice more time in custody in order to protect the show and the jobs of those who work with him, he would do so. From what occurred today, it is evident he is a man of his word," the network and its sister studio, 20th Century Fox Television, said in a statement.
Oh, gee, isn’t Kiefer such a wonderful man.:rolleyes: I dare say that if it were the average Joe’s third offense he would be serving time consecutively and rightfully so. Plus, I think the penalty would be harsher, but I guess that depends on the state.
I realize there is a huge amount of money involved in the production of the show, and his serving the time consecutively would create problems. However, there is this little thing called consequences of your actions. What better way to send that message and get the attention of a repeat offender than having the wrath of a major studio breathing down your neck after costing them millions in delayed production costs because you chose to drive drunk for the third time while you were on probation (something tells me he gave the studios his word the last time as well.). Laws need to be applied evenly across the board regardless of whether you are a superstar or the average citizen. The next thing you know, someone will plead guilty to a charge then change their mind and expect the court to oblige them.
Laws need to be applied evenly across the board regardless of whether you are a superstar or the average citizen.
Ah come on, when has that ever been a hallmark of the US justice system? Great concept, but the reality is quite different...;)
I know you know that, and I agree with with you, but this sort of thing is completely SOP in this country and has been for a long time.
^^^Of course. As I said, they need to be. OJ got a fair trial. :rolleyes:
^^^Of course. As I said, they need to be. OJ got a fair trial. :rolleyes:
:p
Looks like he may not get such a "fair" trial this time as it's looking pretty cut and dried. :)
CPanther95 10-10-07, 05:11 PM That's because it's much harder to get a "fair" trial when you have no real assets. :)
That's because it's much harder to get a "fair" trial when you have no real assets. :)
Well, he does have that fake Rolex. :D
I think the resurrected Tony Almeida will be driving Jack around a lot for the second half of the season! I can hear it already:
"Dammit Tony, we don't have time for this. Just take the keys and drive!"He'll probably just apply for a "hardship work permit" since he needs to drive on the job (for the security of the country you know ;) ). It will be interesting to see him have to blow into the ignition interlock breathalizer device everytime he hops into the his car to get it started though :D.
"Damn it, this is taking too long... I just don't have time for it. Lives are at stake!"
ron
archiguy 10-10-07, 05:55 PM Jack Bauer laughs at ignition interlocks. He just tortures the car until it starts. :D
Yeah, you're right... A whimpy little device like an interlock probably only requires a stern glare or possibly a "Start, damn it!" from Jack Bauer before it rolls over :p
ron
He should have gone to trial and recruited members of the OJ, Robert Blake and Phil Specter juries.
They probably would not only find him not guilty, but would have bought him a few rounds afterward.
If Kiefer spends the holidays in jail then at least he won't be getting drunk and attacking Christmas trees like he did last year.
SbWillie 10-10-07, 09:19 PM `Jack has gone into hiding' for the first 12 eopisodes!
Rakesh.S 10-10-07, 09:23 PM an abbreviated season of this show, or no season at all, would be in everyone's interest
talk about a show that has run for about 6 years too long...sheesh.
jonnythan 10-10-07, 09:25 PM What are you doing in this thread then?
ricwhite 10-10-07, 11:36 PM What are you doing in this thread then?
I was thinking the same thing. Why would somebody who has no interest at all in 24 and thinks it should never have been made be frequenting a discussion forum about 24? How odd is that!! I wonder what else he does that he has absolutely no interest in.
*MOUTH DROPS OPEN*
Season 7 Preview - Obviously some spoilers but you aren't going to escape these commercials unless you stop watching Fox right now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWgmdfOnrv4)
UM
HOLY ****
Jeremy W 10-24-07, 09:48 PM I can't wait!
they'd better do this right, or else it will be jumping the shark on a monumental scale.
lacombo 10-25-07, 06:09 PM why not The U.S.???
just glad I won a few bets. I've been showing it off and collecting money.
Mike4HDTV 10-25-07, 07:17 PM I just finished watching the Season 7 trailer at www.24trailer.com and Season 7 looks like it will be a lot more exciting than Season 6.
No CTU. No LA. Jack's in DC and Tony is alive and he's the bad guy. Wow. Can't wait until Jan 13th and 14th.
NY TIMES
November 8, 2007
For TV Executives, It’s Time to Juggle
By BRIAN STELTER and EDWARD WYATT
Jack Bauer will return to save the world on “24” — again — but somewhat later than expected. And Michael Scott, the comically obtuse regional manager on “The Office,” will not be serving up any original cringe-inducing comments after next week.
As television and movie writers entered the third day of their strike against Hollywood producers yesterday, the walkout continued to complicate matters for the networks.
Fox, the first to announce revisions to its prime-time schedule because of the strike, said it would indefinitely postpone the start of the seventh season of “24,” which had been scheduled for January, to ensure an uninterrupted 24-episode season.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/08/business/media/08strike.html?ei=5065&en=d17d6883e6b9a5de&ex=1195189200&adxnnl=1&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print&adxnnlx=1194542137-tIIL3Sjt4lBE2Ha19BbhoA
NetworkTV 11-08-07, 12:28 PM Well, that was an easy problem to solve. Now he can serve all the jail time he wants...
NetworkTV 11-08-07, 12:29 PM Well, he does have that fake Rollex. :D
Fixed...
Now it deserves the smiley.... ;)
Fixed...
Now it deserves the smiley.... ;)
Thank you sir. :)
Gooddog 11-08-07, 03:24 PM NY TIMES
November 8, 2007
For TV Executives, It’s Time to Juggle
By BRIAN STELTER and EDWARD WYATT
Jack Bauer will return to save the world on “24” — again — but somewhat later than expected.
DAMN IT!!!
DAMN IT!!!
His new phrase:
"THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME!!!!!!!"
faceoff 11-08-07, 04:33 PM Any news of if Keifer is serving his time during the strike, rather than the end of December after filiming was supposed to fininH?
gtaylor0 11-12-07, 05:07 PM FYI - Read in the Washington Post or LA Times that Fox may "blink" and broadcast the 8 completed episodes in the Spring, the rest in the Fall, assuming the strike ends in time. (Same with Lost.) Makes sense - otherwise they literally lose the entire season.
ricwhite 11-14-07, 10:43 PM Well . . . I guess Kiefer Sutherland can go ahead and serve the full jail sentence. 24 has been axed. (Indefinitely postponed, actually). Maybe next year? That is IF Sutherland can keep out of jail.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21688956/
And Day 7 actually showed some promise...besides the ridiculous Tony-is-back storyline...
Kiefer Clocks in to Jail
Now that 24 is on hiatus, Kiefer Sutherland is apparently anxious to get this show on the road.
Barely two hours after being formally sentenced to 48 days in jail in connection with his September arrest for driving under the influence, the Emmy winner reported to Glendale City Jail to start serving his time, E! Online has confirmed.
Records show that the 40-year-old actor arrived at 5:30 p.m. and 16 minutes later he was in a holding cell waiting to be photographed and fingerprinted.
Prisoner 1085109 was then issued an orange jumpsuit and assigned to one of the jail's 96 beds which he'll be calling his own for the next six weeks.
"Mr. Sutherland is very polite and humble. He was very cooperative during the booking process," jail spokesman Officer John Balian said.
Sutherland, who had already agreed to the sentence—30 days for a DUI-related charge, 18 days for probation violation—before today's hearing made it official, chose to be locked up in the smaller Glendale facility as opposed to the massive Men's Central Jail, aka the Twin Towers, in downtown Los Angeles.
The 32,000-square-foot Glendale City Jail offers a pay-to-stay program for well-heeled inmates who have committed lesser offenses.
Per the terms of his plea deal, Sutherland has been ordered to spend the entire time behind bars, meaning no house arrest, ankle bracelets or time off for work.
"Sutherland will be serving the 48 days in the Glendale City Jail, with no early release and no good time/work time credit, so we expect that he will serve the entire 48 days in jail," the L.A. City Attorney's Office said in a statement.
The Young Guns star will be cooling his heels in a double-occupancy 10-by-8-foot cell (although he'll get to fly solo, like Paris did) containing a toilet, washbasin and water fountain. Showers are located in a nearby day room.
Prisoners are allowed no more than two 15-minute visits per day and visiting hours are from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m. Three meals—two hot and one cold—are served daily, with options ranging from corn flakes in the morning to mac-and-cheese and meatloaf at night.
Sutherland will pull laundry and kitchen duty to pass the time, meaning he'll be allowed to move about the jail freely for much of the day rather than be confined to his cell.
On Oct. 9, Sutherland pleaded no contest to driving with a blood-alcohol level over the legal California limit of 0.08 percent and subsequently accepted the fact that he'd have to serve some time. In exchange, prosecutors dropped a charge of driving under the influence.
Sutherland was on probation stemming from a 2004 DUI conviction when he was pulled over Sept. 25 after leaving a Fox-hosted event.
Eschewing the tardiness favored by many of his fellow celebs, Sutherland arrived 15 minutes early for his Wednesday afternoon hearing, during which he was also sentenced to five years' probation and ordered to enroll in an 18-month alcohol education class and attend weekly AA sessions for six months. He must fork over a $510 fine, as well.
Sutherland had no comment as he was leaving the courthouse, but he voiced his remorse earlier this year, saying in a statement: "I'm very disappointed in myself for the poor judgment I exhibited recently, and I'm deeply sorry for the disappointment and distress this has caused my family, friends and coworkers on 24 and at 20th Century Fox. I appreciate the support and concern that has been extended to me these last weeks both personally and professionally."
While it was originally the 24 producers' intention to shoot around the star's incarceration, it currently isn't an issue thanks to the ongoing Writers Guild of America strike. Fox has postponed the premiere of 24's sixth season because only a handful of episodes were ready before the writers walked out, and it will wait until a "whole day" is ready to unfold on a weekly basis.
http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=1ea21629-1ef1-442f-9577-ab32bb362bdf&sid=fd-news
tonybradley 12-06-07, 07:39 AM "Sutherland, who had already agreed to the sentence—30 days for a DUI-related charge...."
Funny how stars get to "Agree" to their sentence. "Nope, don't like that one. Give me what's behind door number 3"
archiguy 12-06-07, 08:02 AM Jack Bauer sneers at the puny Glendale City Jail. He will take a guard hostage and be out in minutes, after which he will commandeer a police car and lead authorities on a miles long high-speed chase thru the streets of LA, smashing many collateral vehicles in the process. He will then prove that it wasn't he who committed those foul deeds, but his alter ego, the weak, sniveling Kiefster, whom he will then torture into confessing, just for the heck of it. And he won't eat or go to the bathroom while doing it, either.
Jack Bauer sneers at the puny Glendale City Jail. He will take a guard hostage and be out in minutes, after which he will commandeer a police car and lead authorities on a miles long high-speed chase thru the streets of LA, smashing many collateral vehicles in the process. He will then prove that it wasn't he who committed those foul deeds, but his alter ego, the weak, sniveling Kiefster, whom he will then torture into confessing, just for the heck of it. And he won't eat or go to the bathroom while doing it, either.
Film crews are standing by around the jail facility to record whatever happens, "reality show" style when Jack busts out. This will be the rest of the season's production, created unscripted on the fly without the need for WGA writers. See it all in January on FOX! :p
He's going to kill and torture so many people in jail...its going to be glorious
I guess he had an interesting choice to make. He could go to the big jail with lots of really nasty people, but he would probably be released early for good behavior/overcrowding. Of course he could also be passed around as a prison bride.
His other choice was to go to the private jail with non-violent offenders, but know that he'll have to serve the whole sentence.
tonybradley 12-06-07, 01:00 PM I guess he had an interesting choice to make. He could go to the big jail with lots of really nasty people, but he would probably be released early for good behavior/overcrowding. Of course he could also be passed around as a prison bride.
His other choice was to go to the private jail with non-violent offenders, but know that he'll have to serve the whole sentence.
Still yet...he's a star...he had a choice. I don't think you nor myself would get the "choice".
Maybe President Palmer will step in and commute his sentence, and then pardon him on his way out of office. ;)
Still yet...he's a star...he had a choice. I don't think you nor myself would get the "choice".
If you were a non-violent offender willing to pay for the private jail, you probably would have that option.
Now if you killed your ex-wife and her boyfried, or just your ex-wife after going to dinner, you had better be a celebrity if you want to get away with it.
If you kill your girlfriend at your house, you might get away with it if you're a famous music producer. That hasn't been completely determined yet.
NetworkTV 12-06-07, 02:08 PM Still yet...he's a star...he had a choice. I don't think you nor myself would get the "choice".
Sure we would. I don't know about you, but I tend to avoid driving drunk. As a result, I get to go home at the end of the day.
The 32,000-square-foot Glendale City Jail offers a pay-to-stay program for well-heeled inmates who have committed lesser offenses.
I wonder if these "cells" have HDTV or instead they make the poor inmates watch everything in stretched SD as punishment for their crimes.
Sure we would. I don't know about you, but I tend to avoid driving drunk. As a result, I get to go home at the end of the day.
Oh come on now. Sure, it's easy for you, but do you know what it's like to be a celebrity? Don't you know the pressure they're under to drink heavily, do drugs and not get a cab or hire a driver?
You just take the easy way out. Sheez!
NetworkTV 12-06-07, 03:03 PM Oh come on now. Sure, it's easy for you, but do you know what it's like to be a celebrity? Don't you know the pressure they're under to drink heavily, do drugs and not get a cab or hire a driver?
You just take the easy way out. Sheez!
Ah, but I'm under constant pressure to be as highly intelligent, good looking and as much of an all around benefit to society as I am.
Of course, that's nothing compared to how extremely humble and truthful I have to be.... ;)
SeattleAl 12-06-07, 03:15 PM This season - the crossover you've all been waiting for:
Prison Break and 24!
The cast of Prison Break appears in hour one to break Jack Bauer out of Glendale Jail for being wrongfully accused. In hours 2 through 24, Jack evades law enforcement while searching for the real criminal - his evil twin.
All I want is Kiefer to come out of jail with a big shaggy beard like he had in the first episode of the last season. Or at least a somewhat shaggy beard like he had in the first episode of the second season.
Three meals—two hot and one cold—are served daily, with options ranging from corn flakes in the morning to mac-and-cheese and meatloaf at night.
You might be thinking, "Hey, that sounds like pretty good grub!", but I'm sure they overcook the meatloaf so it's as hard as a rock, they undercook the mac-n-cheese so it's all runny, and those sadistic prison guards make sure the Corn Flakes sit in milk for 15 minutes so they're all soggy by the time the prisoners get them.
All I want is Kiefer to come out of jail with a big shaggy beard like he had in the first episode of the last season. Or at least a somewhat shaggy beard like he had in the first episode of the second season.
I want to see him get in front of the camera for the first time after getting out and say "I don't know how to do this anymore....."
"Sutherland, who had already agreed to the sentence—30 days for a DUI-related charge...."
Funny how stars get to "Agree" to their sentence. "Nope, don't like that one. Give me what's behind door number 3"
Typically, if you're going to plead guilty to something and skip the trial process, the district attorney would negotiate the sentence with you (via your attorney). Nothing special about this him being a star from what I can see...
I wonder if these "cells" have HDTV or instead they make the poor inmates watch everything in stretched SD as punishment for their crimes.Talk about punishment, just to screw with his head, someone there should get one of those big LED digital clocks with that bleeping seconds sound-- on the hour, every hour-- and put it right outside of his cell. ;)
archiguy 12-06-07, 09:07 PM You might be thinking, "Hey, that sounds like pretty good grub!", but I'm sure they overcook the meatloaf so it's as hard as a rock, they undercook the mac-n-cheese so it's all runny, and those sadistic prison guards make sure the Corn Flakes sit in milk for 15 minutes so they're all soggy by the time the prisoners get them.
:eek: Even Jack Bauer flinches at the prospect of such ruthless torture. Soon, he will remember his captivity at the hands of the Red Chinese with wistful nostalgia.
Talk about punishment, just to screw with his head, someone there should get one of those big LED digital clocks with that bleeping seconds sound-- on the hour, every hour-- and put it right outside of his cell. ;)
How about not letting him eat, sleep or go to the bathroom for 24 hours, just like on the show?
Talk about punishment, just to screw with his head, someone there should get one of those big LED digital clocks with that bleeping seconds sound-- on the hour, every hour-- and put it right outside of his cell. ;)
If someone important or well-known gets killed, then that hour would have a "silent clock (http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Silent_clock)." :p
NetworkTV 12-07-07, 02:39 PM How about not letting him eat, sleep or go to the bathroom for 24 hours, just like on the show?
LOL! That makes me think that it would be fun to have the last few seconds of the last hour be Jack coming out of the men's room, zipping up and saying "man, did I ever have to go...."
archiguy 12-07-07, 03:08 PM If someone important or well-known gets killed, then that hour would have a "silent clock (http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Silent_clock)." :p
And we now know, based on info leaking from this latest season, why Soul-patch Tony didn't get the "silent clock" treatment. ;)
Glendale CA city jail,
http://www.ci.glendale.ca.us/police/Glendale_City_Jail.asp
Ah...comfy...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/Jail_DoubleBeds.jpg
..and such fine cuisine...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/JailFood3.jpg
:D
Get busted for drunk driving... and they give you milk and cookies! :)
jasonblair 12-08-07, 10:18 AM Still yet...he's a star...he had a choice. I don't think you nor myself would get the "choice".His choice was to agree to the terms, or reject them and go to trial. You would get the same choice.
Kiefer Sutherland a 'Model Prisoner' (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20164840,00.html)
Kiefer Sutherland, starting Day 3 of his 48-day sentence for DUI and a probation violation, is a "model prisoner," says a spokesman for the Glendale City Jail.
"He's not happy to be here," Officer John Balian says, "but you can tell from his demeanor that he's sorry and takes responsibility for what's he's done."
Sutherland spent his first full day on Thursday folding jail laundry. He also had cornflakes for breakfast, a turkey sandwich for lunch and chicken a la king for dinner.
The 24 actor, who is housed alone in a cell, has also been assigned to serve meals to the other eight to 10 inmates, one of whom was recently arrested for attempted murder – on four people.
"But we don't put murderers or rapists who are awaiting trial in the same area as a guy convicted of a DUI," Balian explains, adding that Sutherland, as an inmate worker, has access alone to one of three common rooms, each with a television.
The only interaction Sutherland will have with other inmates is when he slides a tray of food through slots in their cell doors.
He also has shower access twice a day.
As of Thursday evening, Sutherland had not had any visitors. However, Balian says that the actor brought several books to keep him busy.
The jail spokesman reiterates that Sutherland will do the full 48 days straight without early release:
"There's no way he's getting out early, unless a judge orders otherwise, which is highly unlikely," he says.
Give Kiefer some alcohol and see if he remains a model prisoner. ;)
It does strike as a little ironic that he is serving a 48 day sentence – 24 + 24 =48. :)
At least Christmas trees (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCiageqMHJc) will be safe this season. :D
"He's not happy to be here," Officer John Balian says, "but you can tell from his demeanor that he's sorry and takes responsibility for what's he's done."
And the Emmy goes to... Kiefer Sutherland for his portrayal of a remorseful prisoner in "The Glendale City Jail". ;)
Brent Madden 12-08-07, 02:27 PM There's no way he'll be able to break out of prison without his "Jack sack" which I'm sure the guards confiscated when he checked in. Hell, he can't even have Chloe send the schematics of the jail to his PDA because they probably took that from him too. This is definitely Jack Bauer's toughest challenge yet. :p
rsambuca 12-08-07, 04:02 PM Chloe and Kim (in a tight white T-shirt) are crawling through the sewers to spring him as we speak. Don't you worry.
I wonder if you could go and visit him...lol that would be amazing
rsambuca 12-08-07, 07:14 PM I wonder if you could go and visit him...lol that would be amazing
LOL!! You could have a ton of fun with that - "Mr. Sutherland, you have a visitor". Kief comes into the room, sees you and says "Who are you?"
Of course you could really play it up and reply "Mr. Bauer, I am here with an urgent request on orders from the President..."
ricwhite 02-11-08, 08:52 PM It sounds as if there will be no season 7 this year. If true, it raises expectations for next year. They will have two years to develop season seven. It better be damn good.
It sounds as if there will be no season 7 this year. If true, it raises expectations for next year. They will have two years to develop season seven. It better be damn good.
I would have the following questions...
1. What happens to the 9 or 10 episodes that have already been shot, edited, and ready-for-air?
2. Can't they just pick up where they've just shot and continue. All the main actors and guest stars are presumably still contracted for the season. (some of them may not be for NEXT season, hence the whole plotline is junked)
3. Can they split Season 7 into two? With 12 episodes before summer, and 12 in the fall. Season 8 in January 2009.
3. If they start season 7 in January 2009 with the originally conceived plot line (spoiler alert: about a woman president), then it may actually be a case of fiction reflecting reality, or not - if Obama or Mccain's supporters have their say. Would Fox really want to take the risk if the election outcome is different?
archiguy 02-11-08, 09:52 PM 3. If they start season 7 in January 2009 with the originally conceived plot line (spoiler alert: about a woman president), then it may actually be a case of fiction reflecting reality, or not - if Obama or Mccain's supporters have their say. Would Fox really want to take the risk if the election outcome is different?
I doubt very seriously that they were attempting to mirror reality. After all, the show has had two black presidents so far; why not a woman?
ricwhite 02-12-08, 09:04 AM I would have the following questions...
1. What happens to the 9 or 10 episodes that have already been shot, edited, and ready-for-air?
2. Can't they just pick up where they've just shot and continue. All the main actors and guest stars are presumably still contracted for the season. (some of them may not be for NEXT season, hence the whole plotline is junked)
3. Can they split Season 7 into two? With 12 episodes before summer, and 12 in the fall. Season 8 in January 2009.
3. If they start season 7 in January 2009 with the originally conceived plot line (spoiler alert: about a woman president), then it may actually be a case of fiction reflecting reality, or not - if Obama or Mccain's supporters have their say. Would Fox really want to take the risk if the election outcome is different?
Good points. I believe that they will go ahead and shoot the remaining episodes this spring/summer, but wait until January 09 to air them all. That is what I read. Maybe with the "head start" for next season, the quality will go up and they wouldn't have to rush out episodes -- which was always a problem in the past.
As far as the plot being stale . . . I guess that is a risk.
I would have the following questions...
1. What happens to the 9 or 10 episodes that have already been shot, edited, and ready-for-air?
2. Can't they just pick up where they've just shot and continue. All the main actors and guest stars are presumably still contracted for the season.
It will be interesting to see if they can get everyone looking as they did when they shot those first 10 episodes. It will be one year since they shot those, and if Kiefer stops his abuse of drugs and alcohol he will definitely look different. Hair length and color they can deal with. But depending on your age, one year can definitely be noticed. Most don’t notice those changes from one season to another, but when you end episode 10 from 2007 and start episode 11 from 2008, well, as I say, it will be interesting.
CPanther95 02-12-08, 09:54 AM No problem - they can just have alternate timelines. ;)
CANNON-FODDER 02-12-08, 10:38 AM And time has always moved differently in CTU vehicles...
v/r,
C-F
TV Notes
Surnow leaving '24'
Co-creator and producer exits to focus on new projects
By Nellie Andreeva, The Hollywood Reporter, Feb 13, 2008
LOS ANGELES -- "24" co-creator/executive producer Joel Surnow is leaving the Emmy-winning drama.
Surnow's departure is effective immediately. He served as an executive producer on the first eight episodes of Fox's real-time thriller's seventh season that were produced before and into the strike but will not be creatively involved in the remaining 16 episodes, slated to begin filming shortly.
Surnow's overall deal with "24" producer 20th Century Fox TV was up April 30. This week, the writer-producer asked the studio to release him early, to which they agreed.
Instead of signing a show deal to continue providing services on "24," Surnow decided to go for "a clean break" and leave altogether to focus on new projects, sources said. ("24" co-creator/executive producer Robert Cochran's overall pact with 20th TV also expired last year, but he continues to work on the series.)
"Joel created one of the landmark series of this decade in '24' and his contribution to its creative excellence over the years has been immeasurable," Fox said in a statement Wednesday. "While he leaves the show in the incredibly capable hands of the talented Howard Gordon, his input will always be welcome."
In the past few years, since executive producer Gordon took the reins of the 20th TV/Imagine TV series as showrunner, Surnow has been developing other projects on the side, including the "The 1/2 Hour News Hour" for Fox News Channel.
Surnow, Cochran and Gordon also shepherded a number of pilots through their production banner Real Time Prods., which will no longer exist, as the three principals won't be at the same roof anymore.
The openly conservative Surnow, who jokingly labeled himself a "right-wing nut," has been the most visible of the masterminds behind "24."
He hasn't shied from speaking his mind and made headlines in November when he asked, "Are we nuts thinking Hillary Clinton could be president of this country? Honest to God, just stand back and think about it."
Ironically, the upcoming seventh season of "24," slated to debut in January 2009, features the first female U.S. president, played by Cherry Jones.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i63ec568afa18bdd0040f7bc9eeccbd21
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