24 on FOX - Day 6 - NO SPOILERS

[Stryker412]

24 Season Six prequel video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qc9QkIhZzs

New season in just a few weeks!

[WilliamR]

This show can't start fast enough.

[steverobertson]

This show can't start fast enough.

I agree along with Prison Break coming back

[noleintheburg]

Over/under for the first Jack Bauer whacking...I say 11 minutes....you know they have to roll credits flashbacks, etc.

[jmj713]

My Season Five boxset just arrived from Amazon. Now I can get caught up!

[archiguy]

Over/under for the first Jack Bauer whacking...I say 11 minutes....you know they have to roll credits flashbacks, etc.

How about first torture scene? I say, 40 minutes in. Unless, of course, my torturing precedes your whacking, assuming the same individual gets both treatments.

[noleintheburg]

How about first torture scene? I say, 40 minutes in. Unless, of course, my torturing precedes your whacking, assuming the same individual gets both treatments.

Yeah your right, protocol dictates...Jack gets captured, then tortured, then somehow kills the torturer with a safety pin or other lethal weapon. Then cut to clock and commerical....

[taxman48]

I'm taking 15 minutes for the first whacking.. Jack Bauer tortured; forced to watch "Deal or No Deal" with Howie Mandel :eek:

[jabbathespud]

Lots of good season 6 info here:

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/24/index.html

[Kirby Baker]

I'm going out on a limb here I know, but first whacking at the 3 minute mark! ;)

[WilliamR]

I'm going out on a limb here I know, but first whacking at the 3 minute mark! ;)

I guess you guys didn't watch the posted link to the season preview, it has your answer.

[archiguy]

I guess you guys didn't watch the posted link to the season preview, it has your answer.

We don't want to get "spoiled". Where's the fun in that? :p

[Stryker412]

We don't want to get "spoiled". Where's the fun in that? :p

Not really a spoiler since it won't be shown on TV.

[fbrito]

We don't want to get "spoiled". Where's the fun in that? :p

It's more of a prequel to season 6. They did this for season 5 as well. Sort of sets the story for the upcoming season. Definitely worth the 10minutes to watch it.

[nikeykid]

It's more of a prequel to season 6. They did this for season 5 as well. Sort of sets the story for the upcoming season. Definitely worth the 10minutes to watch it.

at first i thought it was a shameless rav 4 plug, but at the end i thought it was really good. great twist :)

[Kirby Baker]

I guess you guys didn't watch the posted link to the season preview, it has your answer.

Not really. My estimate was for the first episode, not for the prequel. I still stand by 3 minutes...

[scowl]

Over/under for the first Jack Bauer whacking...I say 11 minutes....you know they have to roll credits flashbacks, etc.
It'll be thirty seconds after some poor guy gets wacked while standing next to him.

If you want to live, never stand next to Jack Bauer. Never go out on missions with Jack Bauer, even if the freedom of the world depends on it (won't do you any good if you're dead). Do not become friends with Jack Bauer, even if you were President once. Do not marry Jack Bauer. If you're related to Jack Bauer stay away from him and for heaven's sake don't "drop by" his office during a national crisis.

[TommyK]

There's no telling how many guys he's already wacked since the end of last season. Even when being held prisoner, Jack Bauer wastes no time. :cool:

[Drifty]

Last year someone posted the 10 minute prequel found on the dvd somewhere on the web. If anyone comes across the link to this years prequel, please post the link here. Thanks.

[Drifty]

Last year someone posted the 10 minute prequel found on the dvd somewhere on the web. If anyone comes across the link to this years prequel, please post the link here. Thanks.

Nevermind, I need to open my eyes. More coffee....

[memnoch]

it seems kinda lame if jack bauer was just handed over by the chinese to the US as a "favor" of some sort. i mean, what's the whole point of the capture? i'd have preferred they use 4 hours for jack's escape, then a half-hour to "teleport" to CTU.

[lax01]

Season starts next Sunday! Apparently a DVD leaked of the first 4 episodes already...I'm waiting though...I want to watch it live in HD

Jack...more badass than ever in Season 6

[broadwayblue]

can't wait. love the back to back double headers to kick off the season!

[lax01]

can't wait. love the back to back double headers to kick off the season!

such a great way to start the season...seriously

[scanpa]

Season starts next Sunday! Apparently a DVD leaked of the first 4 episodes already...I'm waiting though...I want to watch it live in HD

Jack...more badass than ever in Season 6


The first 4 Episodes were great!

[JCL]

No spoliers, please.

Nonetheless, visitors to this thread beware of such.

[Mikelod]

No spoliers, please.

Nonetheless, visitors to this thread beware of such.

So true, one needs to read this thread at their own risk. :)

[CPanther95]

Threads merged.

Please do not post any spoilers in this thread including any comments regarding episodes that have yet to air at their normal broadcast time on the East Coast.

Example:

1) Comments like "there's a twist at the end of episode 7 but I won't say what it is" is a spoiler.

2) Posting cast additions or guest appearances announced (that were not seen on the preview following the show) are also considered spoilers. {We had many pissed off members when Tony's return was posted ahead of time in Day 4(?)}

[scanpa]

Here is a photo of the Season 6 Premier DVD, that someone in the UK got his hands on.



http://www.centralpafire.com/forum/imagehosting/thum_245a1b66c39c67.jpg

http://www.centralpafire.com/forum/imagehosting/thum_245a1b64eaa6e6.jpg

[lax01]

Fox must be hurting for money...canceling a ton of shows, releasing DVDs for shows that haven't aired ;)

[scanpa]

Fox must be hurting for money...canceling a ton of shows, releasing DVDs for shows that haven't aired ;)

No Kidding, The 24 season 6 Premiere DVD will be released in the stores on January 16th 2007 here in the USA.

[Digger16309]

24 Season Six prequel video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qc9QkIhZzs

New season in just a few weeks!

"This video has been removed at the request of copyright owner Twentieth Century Fox because its content was used without permission."

This one is still up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVnRN-TJNaM

[Stryker412]

If you have XBOX Live, a theme and picture pack for 24 is now up.

[fredfa]

As best I can tell, the critics have been doing a pretty good job at keeping spoilers out of their new season previews/reviews. But they aren't perfect, and I am sure some spoilers have slipped through.

A host of reviews have been posted over the past few days on the "Hot Off The Press" sticky, and more will be added today, tomorrow, and Sunday.

I don't want to spoil anyone's enjoyment of Jacvk Bauer's latest escapade, but if you'd like, check these reviews out at your own risk:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9435042&&#post9435042

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9435610&&#post9435610

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9435338&&#post9435338

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9424502&&#post9424502

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9416134&&#post9416134

[Aliens]

Marisol Nichols - the new hottie on 24. Dark, thick, long, brunette hair...Whoo-ah.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/Deltoid/shoespre.jpg

[LL3HD]

Marisol Nichols - the new hottie on 24. Dark, thick, long, brunette hair...Whoo-ah.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/Deltoid/shoespre.jpg
:eek: What’s the matter with you?
Didn’t you read CPanther’s spoiler rules?
Damn, you just spoiled me! :p :D

[keenan]

Marisol Nichols - the new hottie on 24. Dark, thick, long, brunette hair...Whoo-ah.


Liked her ever since I saw her in that blind detective show on ABC, don't recall the name, but the show had some great PQ and she looked fantastic. :)

[LL3HD]

Liked her ever since I saw her in that blind detective show on ABC, don't recall the name, but the show had some great PQ and she looked fantastic. :) Blind Justice :cool:

[keenan]

Blind Justice :cool:
Yup, that was it, silly premise, but the eye candy was nice, the wife wasn't too bad either.

[Stewed]

Marisol Nichols - the new hottie on 24. Dark, thick, long, brunette hair...Whoo-ah.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/Deltoid/shoespre.jpg



"Soooooo Hot, want to touch the hieny"


Thanks to whoever mentioned the 24 content on xbox live!

thread subscribed, best show on tv. Now I wish the PQ for 24 was on Par with CSI or Grey's anatomy. I know, it's apples and oranges

[leebo]

Liked her ever since I saw her in that blind detective show on ABC, don't recall the name, but the show had some great PQ and she looked fantastic. :)

I've been in lust since Vegas Vacation. Please dont let her be Jacks GF or another "Kim".

I hope she's a baddie. I know, Mandy's girlfriend!!! Yeah, thats the ticket! And they kidnap Jack, tie him up, and torture him by making him watch them get it on.

I can hardly wait for THAT DVD!!! :p

[turansformer]

So, how many of you guys want to get together and play the well known 24 drinking game. Everytime Jack says "dammit" or tortures somebody you have to take a shot.... wait, maybe that wouldn't work. We'd all be hammered by the end of the first episode. On a serious not, I'm curious to see how intense the first episode is in comparison to the season 5 premiere. I remember Fox advertising in season five that "you will be blow away after the first fifteen minutes," and needless to say, I was blown away. Hope the same goes for Sunday.

[archiguy]

Oh, '24' drinking games are legendary. You can play one where you take a shot every time they make a cell phone call (talk about getting hammered :eek: ). Or every time you hear that distinctive bee-boop CTU telephone ring. Or every time Jack exclaims There's no time!, or Dammit Chloe! Or start with the technobabble, or.... heck it's endless. That will be '24's ultimate claim to TV fame: the ultimate drinking-game show. :D

[Plasmacat]

Kiefer on Charlie Rose tonight.

[Stewed]

"WHO DO YOU WORK FOR?!?!?"

Now Drink!

I always laugh my A$# off the first time that line gets said

[CPanther95]

... or every time that AT&T (?) CTU phone ring occurs. After 10 minutes you'd be praying they answer the damn phone after the first ring.

[turansformer]

Where's that thread about cruising the forum while drunk, because I've got a feeling many of us will be doing so when 24 starts....

[Nachosgrande]

For those who have 24 on Season Pass, be sure to check your Tivo To Do List and see if it selected. The Upcoming Episodes List does not have 24 on Channel 88 for Sunday's episode and will not record it. Be sure to record the show from the Program Guide.

-end of public service announcement

[RavenX]

Official trailer is not a spoiler. My thoughts on official trailer:

I checked out official trailer on Fox web site and it looks like beginning of "Die Another Day". Jack with beard cuffed by Chinese.

[scanpa]

Just remember if you do miss the show Sunday or Monday night, those First 4 Episodes will be available on DVD for $14.95 Tuesday at a retailer near you.

[Stewed]

Just remember if you do miss the show Sunday or Monday night, those First 4 Episodes will be available on DVD for $14.95 Tuesday at a retailer near you.


LMAO. Thank you Corperate Masters! Brilliant!

$100 says episodes will also be on xbox live soon also

[Plasmacat]

Here's the video of Kiefer on Charlie Rose. Includes clips from the new episodes:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6971209877512557928&q=charlie+rose

[lax01]

< 7 hours away!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111

[GATER]

Really looking forward to tonight. I started with season 5, and went back and watched all 5 seasons over the last couple of months. What a great show this is! The only bad thing is I'll have to wait a week for each episode, unlike watching the next episode each night with the dvd's:)

[CPanther95]

Almost time to go remove the anamorphic lens in the theater and pop the popcorn. No Tivo in the theater, so Fox's advertisers get my eyeballs tonight.

[Spiky]

Interesting that their "special" preview during halftime was SD even though normal commercials they manage to get out in HD. At least here it was.

[Todd]

No Tivo in the theater, so Fox's advertisers get my eyeballs tonight.
Dude, what up with that??

[jluzbet]

90 Minutes... time to take a shower and call it TV time :D

[CPanther95]

Dude, what up with that??

I have 4 HD-Tivos, but not much need for one in the home theater. We only watch DVDs, 24 and Lost up there.

[rezzy]

Morris to Chloe:

"Your 'rah hottie...!" :D

[scanpa]

Jack's Kill Count for Episode 1: 1
Jack's Torture Count for Episode 1: NONE
White House Mole?
CTU Mole?

[David F]

Neck biting Jack! I was laughing out loud!

[scanpa]

I hate having already seen these 4 episodes 11 days ago. :(

So much to talk about. :)

[venk]

Anyone else notice a TON of grain in dark scenes for example when Faiyid was hunting Jack in the sewer. It was extremly distracting but became a non issue in normal light scenes.


I'm running OTA Fox 2 Detroit to a Panny 42" Plasma

[NetworkTV]

Neck biting Jack! I was laughing out loud!

....well, this year is the 20th anniversary of "The Lost Boys". Perhaps that was product placement for the next DVD release.... ;)

[scanpa]

Anyone else notice a TON of grain in dark scenes for example when Faiyid was hunting Jack in the sewer. It was extremly distracting but became a non issue in normal light scenes.


I'm running OTA Fox 2 Detroit to a Panny 42" Plasma

some. here on Lebanon Comcast FOXHD Ch 234 on the Comcast Reading Headend.

[Mike4HDTV]

2 hours down and so far I not impressed with the storyline for this season.

More terrorists setting off bombs in L.A. and big shocker, there Arabs.

I can't believe how many scars that Jack has on his back from being tortured in China.

Tomorrow's preview looks very good.

BTW, the Nadia chick is hot.

[jonnythan]

Anyone else notice a TON of grain in dark scenes for example when Faiyid was hunting Jack in the sewer. It was extremly distracting but became a non issue in normal light scenes.


I'm running OTA Fox 2 Detroit to a Panny 42" Plasma
Yeah, same here. I'm watching on Time Warner HD on a 50" plasma. It was annoying, but not that bad.

[CPanther95]

More terrorists setting off bombs in L.A. and big shocker, there Arabs.

Would a group of angry Swedes make it more realistic for ya, or maybe suicide bombing Belgians?

[RaymondBlue]

Anyone else notice a TON of grain in dark scenes for example when Faiyid was hunting Jack in the sewer. It was extremly distracting but became a non issue in normal light scenes.


I'm running OTA Fox 2 Detroit to a Panny 42" Plasma

I noticed last year that fox would bit starve 24. Most of the shows were transmitted @ less than 8mb/s, whereas American Idol would be north of 12mb/s. I assume they don't want people making good copies, hurt DVD sales ;)

[rezzy]

Would a group of angry Swedes make it more realistic for ya, or maybe suicide bombing Belgians?For myself, it would be more realistic if he fought them anywhere else besides LA.

[RaymondBlue]

Would a group of angry Swedes make it more realistic for ya, or maybe suicide bombing Belgians?

I think more shocking would have been French terrorists :rolleyes:

[CPanther95]

Jack could take Paris by himself in a 24 hour period - that's even if it took 12 hours to figure out France was behind the threat. :)

[clevername]

all right, list of already potentially annoying characters/plotlines:

Chloe/Chloe's boyfriend/dude from season 1 (or was it 2?) who's back

the President's sister

Kumar and his interactions/adventures in white LA

annoying staff surrounding the President

already awesome stuff:

everything with Jack. Just like always.

Anyone ever found a site that maybe takes the episodes and edits out all the crap that doesn't really pertain to Jack and the main plot? I'd love to watch that alone, even if some of the subplots have related elements to the main plot. Give me enough with the Jack/main CTU activity scenes/main President scenes to understand the story and I'll be happy.

[lax01]

so whats the chain of command at CTU? I had trouble figuring that one out...whats Chloe's role?

Kumar as a terrorist? Come on....he needs to take a bong-hit and relax

[CPanther95]

The President's sister should be behind bars at least for the duration of this season.

[thebland]

Loved it! Always do. Great television.

[nitman]

Were tonights episodes in DD5.1?

I didn't hear anything out of my surrounds in either episode.

I was watching Fox 5 New York.

[paudemge]

^^^^Well that is better than what I got, my power went out 1/2 way though and didnt' come back on until after it was over.

[scanpa]

so whats the chain of command at CTU? I had trouble figuring that one out...whats Chloe's role?

Kumar as a terrorist? Come on....he needs to take a bong-hit and relax

CTU Chief: Bill B.
CTU Deputy: Nadia
CTU Floor Supervisor: Milo
CTU Field ops: Curtis Manning

Chloe is still lead computer Analyst.

[joenobody33]

The bitrate 24 is transmitted at really sucks. My local FOX was broadcasting at around 10Mbps. They're broadcasting the local news in SD now @ 13.5Mbps.

[scanpa]

Were tonights episodes in DD5.1?

I didn't hear anything out of my surrounds in either episode.

I was watching Fox 5 New York.

I noticed that also, very low rear & Surround Audio levels. But the Commercials were in full 5.1 (very loud!) for the HD Ones!

[turansformer]

So, did anybody play any drinking games tonight?

[lax01]

CTU Chief: Bill B.
CTU Deputy: Nadia
CTU Floor Supervisor: Milo
CTU Field ops: Curtis Manning

Chloe is still lead computer Analyst.

I guess that makes sense but it seemed like Chloe got some type of a promotion...

I don't like how Jack is acting weak...he should be in total badass mode by now

[Gruson]

Good ep!

I have to say that DirecTV's local HD broadcast of Fox was REALLY lacking compared to the real local channel.

It almost did not even look HD.

This is the first time viewing 24 in HD via DirecTV and I was really let down.

OTA quality is much better.

:(

[lax01]

I noticed that also, very low rear & Surround Audio levels. But the Commercials were in full 5.1 (very loud!) for the HD Ones!

when the helicopters flew behind us, I heard it...turn up your volume!

[turansformer]

On another note, I like the angle where Jack looked into the eyes of the guy he tortued and couldn't do it. I think we'll see that played out over several episodes as he tries to recover from being tortued for 20 months.

[scanpa]

So, did anybody play any drinking games tonight?

You Bet!

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[scanpa]

when the helicopters flew behind us, I heard it...turn up your volume!


Trust me it was up! http://www.centralpafire.com/forum/images/smilies/hand.gif

[ricwhite]

^^^^Well that is better than what I got, my power went out 1/2 way though and didnt' come back on until after it was over.

Do you suspect terrorism?

[turansformer]

^^^^Well that is better than what I got, my power went out 1/2 way though and didnt' come back on until after it was over.

I bet Kumar did it.....

[bphisig]

Kumar is a much better casting decision than Rudy last year.

Great stuff tonight, can't wait for tomorrow.

[jdiehl]

So, Jack gets knifed in the shoulder, and skewered in the spine, but 30 minutes later he's running around like absolutely nothing happened to him.

Even worse, he puts on a fresh pullover/sweater at the empty house, yet it has zero, count them, zero blood stains from the deep wounds he received when tortured minutes earlier. :rolleyes:

Oh yes, before I forget, who leaves their high-end cellphone in their 20yr old car? He needed to break into an old car (so he could hotwire it) but then it's got a souped up cellphone sitting there waiting for him (capable of entering a GPS location and instantly pulling up a detailed map. LOL, what consumer level phone can do that anyway? I can look the other way when they do that stuff with their CTU PDA/Cellphone's, but not when their consumer grade).

[ricwhite]

2 hours down and so far I not impressed with the storyline for this season.

More terrorists setting off bombs in L.A. and big shocker, there Arabs.



Personally, I think using any people as terrorists is getting old. I would like to see some kind of twist where, say, the animal kingdom is used to a greater degree. Like maybe some revolting animals from the circus plot against their handlers and break out to reign havoc over a city. CTU and Jack must use all of their resources to combat their attacks. I'd love to see Jack go up against an elephant, for example. Maybe use some torture and interrogation techniques. "Where are the rest of the animals! Believe me, you're not going to like what I do to your trunk!" That would be good.

[Rakesh.S]

So, Jack gets knifed in the shoulder, and skewered in the spine, but 30 minutes later he's running around like absolutely nothing happened to him.

Even worse, he puts on a fresh pullover/sweater at the empty house, yet it has zero, count them, zero blood stains from the deep wounds he received when tortured minutes earlier. :rolleyes:

Oh yes, before I forget, who leaves their high-end cellphone in their 20yr old car? He needed to break into an old car (so he could hotwire it) but then it's got a souped up cellphone sitting there waiting for him (capable of entering a GPS location and instantly pulling up a detailed map. LOL, what consumer level phone can do that anyway? I can look the other way when they do that stuff with their CTU PDA/Cellphone's, but not when their consumer grade).

cha ching!

we haven't even gotten to the 2nd part of the premiere and the realism flaws are already showing..ouch.

They'll never top the season 5 opener.

Gotta love Jack going dracula on a terrorist's ass after getting a spool of nerves cut and being stabbed in the spinal cord....and then proceeding to hit the ground running, and drop-kicking terrorists out of trains.

now Kumar is involved..oh dear. I hope the choppers can make it to White Castle in under 20 mins to take him out.

Over the top does not begin to explain this show -- the critical acclaim and hype are puzzling.

[HDTVFanAtic]

Oh yes, before I forget, who leaves their high-end cellphone in their 20yr old car? He needed to break into an old car (so he could hotwire it) but then it's got a souped up cellphone sitting there waiting for him (capable of entering a GPS location and instantly pulling up a detailed map. LOL, what consumer level phone can do that anyway? I can look the other way when they do that stuff with their CTU PDA/Cellphone's, but not when their consumer grade).

I find more and more BS in every season. Now, if you didn't bother to DVR FF through the spots you would know that Sprint used that as product placement to introduce their new phones and service.

But regardless, iirc, Jack was in another room when the call was made to CTU with the lattitude and longitude of the house - so how did he know them?

And let's see - anyone believe they wouldnt immediately go back and try and get the bad guy once he said he would have to think about honoring their agreement - that order would be given in about 2 seconds after that statement.

So they have military helios ready for mission that is top national priority in LA - yet Jack can negotiate LA Traffic and get there faster - yeah...right.

And finally, who really thinks that National Security is really discussed on all these unsecure cellphones.

And yes, you are correct about his recovery from the toture. Just totally it's just totally out there - however, I was wondering is this the first time they have actually shown the President in DC or the oval office. I could not remember it from previous seasons.

I'm done for the night.

[jonnythan]

Why do you even watch the show? Sounds pretty painful for you.

[Rakesh.S]

I think the only redeeming aspect to tonight's premiere was the teaser for Drive -- malcolm reynolds' new show premiering this spring.

[gators96]

I loved the show tonight. I don't get caught up in what is realistic or not. It is a tv show for crying out loud.

[Steve Wright]

I keep thinking this is going to be the dream season where Jack dreams up the entire day and wakes up in a Chinese prison camp. Something too surreal about this season so far..

[OrleansDawg]

Show tonight was the best two hours of 24, imo

God I love the show

Tons of bs but thats TV...keep me interested

[Spiky]

Video wasn't as bad as last year. So far. But it's clearly below the quality of the last House episode from the same channel.

And DVD copies look absolutely fantastic from last year. Downrezzing to 480 pretty much cancels all the bad. Although it's then only 480.

[nikeykid]

oh cmon all you 24 haters. jack kicked a suicide bomber out of a train. that's awesome! what else should he do? he's clearly superhuman in a human way which is way this show is so great. who cares if this show is unrealistic? just root for jack!

[Chris Rein]

You know, I can check my brain at the door every once and a while, but something REALLY got me tonight. I've been a fan since the beginning, and have loved every season of 24. Sure, there have been some, "Um, okay" moments, but check this...


How in the sam hell could ANYONE NOT see that the guy had a bomb strapped to his chest under that suit?


It looked like an oversized juice-box was stuffed underneath there! I guess everyone thought his tailor sucked or something! :p

[keenan]

Completely unrealistic and as stupid as ever, but it's still fun as hell to watch.

[broadwayblue]

oh cmon all you 24 haters. jack kicked a suicide bomber out of a train. that's awesome! what else should he do? he's clearly superhuman in a human way which is way this show is so great. who cares if this show is unrealistic? just root for jack!

exactly. you have to be able to let a lot of things go or you just can't enjoy the show. i mean jack did kick a suicide bomber out of a train. awesome indeed...even if it wasn't the same train car the bomber actually got in. ;)

[kucharsk]

But regardless, iirc, Jack was in another room when the call was made to CTU with the lattitude and longitude of the house - so how did he know them?Fayed was obviously at least within earshot, as they took pains to do an insert showing Jack repeating the coordinates as Fayed read them to CTU…

[noleintheburg]

I loved the show tonight. I don't get caught up in what is realistic or not. It is a tv show for crying out loud.

As much as it pains me...I have to agree with the Gator.

[NorthJersey]

CTU Chief: Bill B.
CTU Deputy: Nadia
CTU Floor Supervisor: Milo
CTU Field ops: Curtis Manning

Chloe is still lead computer Analyst.

Sorry, but Nadia, aka Audrey from Vegas Vacation, does not look Arab to me, but something tells me that she will turn out to be the mole in CTU (she spoke Arab to Fayed over the phone).

Chloe actually looked kind of hot...

Now why would the terrorists strike Detroit, Chicago and LA, but not NY or DC ? Are the writers to afraid to offend anyone in those areas due to 911 ?

Kumar looks like he's going to bite the big Slider tonight, but after H&KGTWC, can't really take him seriously as a terrorist. I'm waiting for Neil Patrick Harris to stop by and steal his car

[jeepmatt]

After all the other posts about unrealistic storylines - doesn't anyone see the biggest one?

That the US now has its second black president?

[SbWillie]

Last season's airport hostage standoff blew this year's premiere away...not even close!

[Ed Dixon]

This is an action series. It requires you to check your “realism logic” outside the TV room.

It boils down to trying to guess who are the bad guys, which good guys are going down, who gets whacked next, and what surprises are in order.

It’s also fun to see how they ‘manage’ to insert new technology into unlikely places each season. They went to some lengths with a transmitter and lat/lons to find the bad guy location, when the inside guy could have just text messaged the street address.

Ed

[JWhip]

The whole point of the show is its complete unrealism and strange twists. That is what makes it so much fun to watch. It is NOT high art after all!

[EmptyPocketsCarl]

Oh yes, before I forget, who leaves their high-end cellphone in their 20yr old car? He needed to break into an old car (so he could hotwire it) but then it's got a souped up cellphone sitting there waiting for him (capable of entering a GPS location and instantly pulling up a detailed map. LOL, what consumer level phone can do that anyway? I can look the other way when they do that stuff with their CTU PDA/Cellphone's, but not when their consumer grade).

Did you notice the first commercial right after that scene when they went to break? It was Sprint. And the voice over said something like "want to be like a federal agent? get the new blah blah phone..."

It's only a matter of time before we hear Jack mutter "thank God that guy left his Sprint GPS enabled phone in the car!"

Cool show, fun action, but the advertising and sponsorship is too much.

[Ed Dixon]

There is an interesting news note on Drudge about possible Day 6 plot direction.

Ed

[Evangelo2]

Now why would the terrorists strike Detroit, Chicago and LA, but not NY or DC ? Are the writers to afraid to offend anyone in those areas due to 911 ?

They had the perfect setup to shift 24 to a new city this year and didn't capitalize on the oppurtunity. With Jack coming back from CHina and his release being negotiated 2 days earlier they could have had him arriving in NY or DC or anywhere.
-Evangelo2

[Viventis]

The two hour premier (especially w/DVR) went by so quickly!!!! I guess I am hooked again. Jack's miraculous healing ability aside, this is going to be a great season. The one other thing that made me wonder a bit was the school of thought that a terrorist with a bomb should sit in the last seat of the last car on a train. But then again, kicking him into the middle of the next car at the moment of the explosion wouldn't work. Wasn't the terrrorist on the bus Asian?

[bobby94928]

After all the other posts about unrealistic storylines - doesn't anyone see the biggest one?

That the US now has its second black president?

Let's go back a bunch of years. John Kennedy was elected the first Catholic president, a very big deal at the time. A little later, if he wasn't assassinated, Bobby Kennedy was well on his way to being the second. It was obvious that the people loved David Palmer, it makes total sense to me that his brother got elected.

[mnk716]

24 is an awesome show and entertaining.

have to put in my "unreals":

how does jack remember Buchan's cell phone after almost 2 years in a torture enviornment.

i

[scanpa]

You guys will love tonights 2 episodes!

[Steve Wright]

It was obvious that the people loved David Palmer

Would those by the ficitional 24 Americans? :D

[ricwhite]

I agree that 24 is just getting too unbelievable. It's just too unrealistic. Why can't they at least put in some logical believability like they do with my other favorite series such as LOST, HOUSE, and PRISON BREAK? Sheesh.

[Ed Dixon]

Not sure that either Lost or House win any awards for realism. Both are good shows, and record everyweek here.

Ed

[nikeykid]

I agree that 24 is just getting too unbelievable. It's just too unrealistic. Why can't they at least put in some logical believability like they do with my other favorite series such as LOST, HOUSE, and PRISON BREAK? Sheesh.

i hope you were sarcastic because you dared put "logical" and "prison break" in the same sentence.

[Stan54]

I love 24, but I do not expect realism. 24 is similar to the Saturday matinee serials of the 1930's and '40's. I regularly attended these screenings during the '40's and somewhat in the early '50's. Purely excitement. 24 is far more sophisticated and better presented than the serials of old, but it's the same idea. Instead of having a 9 year old kid jumping around in his seat, it has a 69 year old kid jumping around in his seat. ........... A tip of the hat to the modern superhero, Jack Bauer!

[Deric]

Not sure that either Lost or House win any awards for realism. Both are good shows, and record everyweek here.

Ed


i hope you were sarcastic because you dared put "logical" and "prison break" in the same sentence.

I think AVS needs titles

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[gators96]

I enjoyed "Back to the Future" even though I know there is no such thing as a flux capacitor or time travel. Some people are acting like they are just realizing that "24" isn't the most realistic show in the world. It has been this way since the beginning.

[Stewed]

First time I've subscribed to a 24 thread, but I've been watching since season one. I knew there'd be some knobs who weep for realisim flaws, but my god people, lol. Why watch if it's so painfull? Reminds me of the Comic book guy from the simpsons. "Rest assured I was on the internet within minutes expressing my disaproval" heh

Anyway, I bet all the people who've already seen the 1st four hours are laughing at everyone saying that the plot line is weak. I bet you the real hook comes at the end of tonight, like it did last year and the year before that, and the year before that.

One questions I can't remember, is Nina Meyers Dead?

Also: Will Tony's Cubs mug make an appearence? Not sure if anyone will know what I mean by that...

[rezzy]

I enjoyed "Back to the Future" even though I know there is no such thing as a flux capacitor or time travel. Some people are acting like they are just realizing that "24" isn't the most realistic show in the world. It has been this way since the beginning.No flux-capacitor? That's heresay......! :mad:

[somekind]

After all the other posts about unrealistic storylines - doesn't anyone see the biggest one?

That the US now has its second black president?


And they're brothers. Is it a Jeb Bush set-up?

[scowl]

So, Jack gets knifed in the shoulder, and skewered in the spine, but 30 minutes later he's running around like absolutely nothing happened to him.

Even worse, he puts on a fresh pullover/sweater at the empty house, yet it has zero, count them, zero blood stains from the deep wounds he received when tortured minutes earlier. :rolleyes:
This supports my theory that Jack Bauer is a Replicant.

[jdiehl]

Anyway, I bet all the people who've already seen the 1st four hours are laughing at everyone saying that the plot line is weak. I bet you the real hook comes at the end of tonight, like it did last year and the year before that, and the year before that...

Of course it does.

I won't spoil anything, but after watching the first 2 hours in HD last night, with a copy of the season 6 DVD (episodes 1-4, plus 10min of episode 5) sitting there begging to be watched, my wife and I couldn't resist and watched tonight's action yesterday. The plot gets better, much better. And outside of Jack's stab wounds still NOT seeping blood through his gray shirt, there isn't too much check-your-brain at the door type of stuff for hours 3-4. ;)

It's an action/adventure show. Yes, it can be over the top and ridiculous from time to time, and many of us find it fun to poke fun at the inconsistencies of the show, but that doesn't mean that we enjoy it any less.

[Ed Dixon]

I enjoyed "Back to the Future" even though I know there is no such thing as a flux capacitor or time travel.
Actually time travel does exist, it’s just a one way action. Velocity results in going into the future. You just can go back.

Ed

[CPanther95]

Very true, no need for a time machine to go "back to the future".

[CPanther95]

Very true, no need for a time machine to go "back to the future". :)

[roachxp]

Anyone notice Jack landed and it was still dark out and 10 minutes later the sun is shining high LOL. I still love this show.

[jluzbet]

One questions I can't remember, is Nina Meyers Dead?

Season 3 jack put a bullet in her head :eek:

[nikeykid]

Season 3 jack put a bullet in her head :eek:

clearly nina is a cylon and upon death would just be uploaded into another host body. in that case, i hope she comes back :D

why shouldn't jack have a regular arch-nemesis??

[fredfa]

(From Marc Berman’s Monday, Jan. 15, 2006, Programming Insider blog at Mediaweek.com )
http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/...0451/m/11410182

(Household rating and share are first, followed by total number of viewers (in millions) and adult 18-49 rating and share.)
8:00 p.m.
CBS NFL Playoffs/60 Minutes: 19.2/28 -- 32.22 million -- 11.2/25
Fox 2 (season premiere): 8.1/12 -- 14.38 million -- 5.5/12
ABC Extreme Makeover: Home Edition: 5.8/ 8 -- 9.63 million -- 3.6/ 8
NBC Grease: You're the One That I Want: 4.8/ 7 -- 7.89 million -- 2.6/ 6
CW 7th Heaven: 2.0/ 3 -- 3.13 million -- 1.1/ 2

8:30 p.m.
CBS 60 Minutes : 11.3/18 -- 17.80 million -- 5.1/11
Fox 24 (season premiere): 8.8/13 -- 15.87 million -- 6.0/13
ABC Extreme Makeover: Home Edition: 7.3/11 -- 12.07 million -- 4.5/10
NBC Grease: Your the One That I Want: 4.9/ 7 -- 8.49 million -- 2.9/ 6
CW 7th Heaven: 1.9/ 3 -- 3.09 million -- 1.1/ 2

9:00 p.m.
ABC Desperate Housewives: 10.3/15 -- 18.18 million -- 6.5/14
CBS 60 Minutes/Cold Case: 10.8/16 -- 18.73 million -- 4.3/ 9
Fox 24 (season premiere): 9.1/13 -- 16.28 million -- 6.3/14
NBC Apprentice 6: 4.8/ 7 -- 7.22 million -- 2.8/ 6
CW Beauty & the Geek (R): 1.0/ 1 -- 1.69 million -- 0.7/ 2

9:30 p.m.
ABC Desperate Housewives: 10.918 -- 17.25 million -- 7.0/15
Fox 24 (season premiere): 9.1/13 -- 16.22 million -- 6.3/14
CBS Cold Case: 8.9/13 -- 13.64 million -- 3.6/ 8
NBC The Apprentice: 4.8/ 7 -- 7.37 million -- 2.9/ 6
CW Beauty & the Geek (R): 1.0/ 2 -- 1.69 million -- 0.7/ 2

• Source: Nielsen Media Research data (R = repeat)

[Stewed]

I'm predicting right now that Chloe is getting whacked this season

[jluzbet]

Wao it gained almost 2 million by the end of the show... Sweet
has premier this been the highest in ratings?

[patrickpiteo]

Yeah, same here. I'm watching on Time Warner HD on a 50" plasma. It was annoying, but not that bad.OTA in NY had the same issues..

[patrickpiteo]

Well the new President Palmer ain't nothing like the old one.. How long before he gets it? He has that dope by him and asks him for advice.. uggg

[broadwayblue]

The one other thing that made me wonder a bit was the school of thought that a terrorist with a bomb should sit in the last seat of the last car on a train. But then again, kicking him into the middle of the next car at the moment of the explosion wouldn't work.

I'm pretty sure he didn't board the train in the last car, as it looked like he and the handler were standing on the middle of the platform when the train came in. There is some continuity issue there, but as you say, kicking him into the middle car wouldn't work. It's really just the kind of stuff we have to let go to enjoy the show.

[Stewed]

Hard time has defineitly made Jack a little soft. The old Jack would have hornswaggled the bomber before he even knew it

[keenan]

Hard time has defineitly made Jack a little soft. The old Jack would have hornswaggled the bomber before he even knew it
No worries, in the next 6 to 8 hrs bullets will bounce off his chest and he'll be cutting a guys leg off instead of watching someone else just stab the leg. :p

[tshoot1]

Did anyone else have a problem with the opening gambit? Everyone got on board immediately with the plan to trade Jack for the bad guy's location.

How many times did we hear Bill's wife, and everyone else, say last season: the US does NOT negotiate with terrorists. That was always rule #1. (And still is, in the real world.)

[NorthJersey]

clearly nina is a cylon and upon death would just be uploaded into another host body. in that case, i hope she comes back :D

why shouldn't jack have a regular arch-nemesis??

forget Nina, time to reincarnate Naked Mandy for the 2nd half of this season!

[AntennaMan1]

Wasn't the terrrorist on the bus Asian?
Same thing I was thinking. Quite possibly Chinese?

[partyflavor]

Jack's miraculous healing ability aside, this is going to be a great season. The one other thing that made me wonder a bit was the school of thought that a terrorist with a bomb should sit in the last seat of the last car on a train. But then again, kicking him into the middle of the next car at the moment of the explosion wouldn't work. Wasn't the terrrorist on the bus Asian?

You people nitpicking the show! I know that it is not the most realistic show on television, but it certainly is more logical than Prison Break. Also, some of these nitpicks can be explained away.

First of all, someone mentioned it being dark and then the sun coming minutes later. Well, there were two things related to that. First of all, when it was dark at the beginning and when the bus exploded it was that pre-dawn in LA look. The next scene was in the freaking White House on the East Coast where it is already 9AM and the sun is up easily by this time. They also mentioned that it's been about 3 months since Wayne was inaugurated and barring unusual circumstances that means it is March or April. I'm not going to go back and see exactly when the sun was shining in LA, but according to http://www.laalmanac.com/weather/we88_03.htm sunrise in early March is at 6:22 and gets closer to 6am every day. Add to that the fact that the sun has to come up over the mountain and so it could seem dark one minute and then bright a few minutes later. Anyone who has lived in the shadow of a mountain would understand that.

Also, let's talk about Jack's torture wounds. The knife in his shoulder was to get at the bundle of nerves. It didn't say he wanted to sever them, but he did inflict pain. Then there was no blood on the shirts afterwards because Fayed poured some kind of acid over it to cauterize the wound (hence Jack screaming as it was poured on to the wound). He doesn't want Jack to bleed out before he has had all of his fun with him. It's possible this was something like dichloroacetic or trichloroacetic acid, and although it was not applied with medical precision, I'm sure it did the job to close the wound. I don't know why there wasn't blood on his back from whatever he stuck in there, but all I can surmise is that it wasn't a very big entry wound into the flesh and it had time to coagulate by the time he changed shirts.

Lastly, the terrorist on the train being in the last car. For one thing, just because the platform extends past a point doesn't mean the train will. They build the platforms for the expectation of, say a 10 car train, and then they might use 6 or 8 cars until demand increases. Also while Jack on closer to the front of that car and walked the length of it to the back which would of put that end of the car closer to the end of the platform. As for the terrorist sitting at the back of the train making no sense, it was not his objective to blow up the train while it was moving and so the back car made sense. If you've ever been on a subway before, people tend to congregate on the platform near where the stairway comes down. Few people will walk all the way to the end of the train, so there are less people in that car and less chance of his mission being disturbed. When he got to Union Station, he was (probably) going to get off the train and blow up in the midst of the crowd that would be considerable larger and would have more kills. Hence, the other guy waiting outside Union Station for something to happen.

So, some of the logic to 24 takes just a little more logic than the average viewer (apparently) has. Of course, there are just somethings in the show that are not logical and can't be explained away, but there are far fewer than many other shows on tv, and most of these have to do with Jack's magical ability to transport himself around LA and memorize phone numbers (that surprisingly haven't changed in two years) and strings of coordinates he only hears once in highly stressful environments. But hey, he's Jack Bauer!

[scanpa]

Well said Partyflavor.

[archiguy]

Wonder whatever happened to the "bluetooth group"; that group of guys pulling President Logan's strings last year...? Will they be back, perhaps ending up being behind all the current mayhem? My guess is they're the third (no...fourth) layer of evildoers that Jack will have to confront and conquer.

[fredfa]

Some "24" ratings comparisons with previous years:
TV Notebook
Good start for Fox's '24'
By Rick Kissell and Variety Staff January 15, 2007

The clock is ticking once again and Fox's "24" got off to a nice start with its special two-hour premiere Sunday night. CBS dominated the opening 90 minutes of the evening with NFL playoff action, while NBC's revamped lineup -- including the second week for "Grease" and "The Apprentice" -- looked shaky.

According to preliminary nationals from Nielsen, "24" averaged a 6.1 rating/14 share in adults 18-49 and 15.7 million viewers overall from 8 to 10, opening with a 5.8 rating in the first hour and rising to a 6.3 in its second hour. The drama thriller was down from last year's bow (7.0/15 in 18-49, 16.3 million viewers overall), which had the benefit of a football lead-in, but was on par in key demos with the 2005 season opener, which did air behind football.

Show's opening-night perf is all the more impressive given that the AFC playoff game between the New England Patriots and San Diego Chargers on CBS didn't wrap until nearly 8:30 in the East. And in its second hour, "24" nearly caught ABC's "Desperate Housewives" (6.8/15 in 18-49, 16.7 million viewers overall), which hit a firstrun series low for the second straight week.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117957408.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

[jonnythan]

Blood on the shirt thing:

What was the time between Jack getting the knife in the shoulder and the time he changed his shirt at the abandoned house with Assad? 20 minutes? If that relatively small wound is still bleeding by then, that's messed up ;)

[John Chu]

My wife and I both thought there should have been something more exciting and more cathartic for Jack's return from China...an escape, a rescue operation..something.

C'mon, Jack had two years to figure out a way of there!

Other than that...we are right back into this stuff like nothing has happened.

"I don't know if I can do this anymore."

"You'll remember."

[Rakesh.S]

Wonder whatever happened to the "bluetooth group"; that group of guys pulling President Logan's strings last year...? Will they be back, perhaps ending up being behind all the current mayhem? My guess is they're the third (no...fourth) layer of evildoers that Jack will have to confront and conquer.

the tv spots last week where they did the ads saying "america doesn't negotiate with terrorists....and neither does Jack" showed Jack choking the bluetooth guy that looked like David Cross.

[jonnythan]

Negotiating with terrorists:

America does not negotiate with terrorists. That's central to the show. That means that the US does not concede things under the threat of terror, not that the US never engages in any relations with known terrorists. It's an important distinction.

"We'll give you, a known terrorist, something in exchange for helping us stop someone from committing acts of terrorism" is different from "We'll give you something in exchange for you halting/stopping your terrorist action."

[archiguy]

the tv spots last week where they did the ads saying "america doesn't negotiate with terrorists....and neither does Jack" showed Jack choking the bluetooth guy that looked like David Cross.

Ah, I think you may be right. (You're speaking of the oft-shown clip where Jack, in response to the evildoer whining about Jack hurting him, says with conviction, "Trust me, I'm not.") But if it happens in the first few episodes, then it has to be only the second layer of baddies. Leaving, of course, a few more layers of terrorist-types to be discovered (typically at the 8, 16, and 20-something hours). The formula's pretty well established by now. ;)

[Don H]

This supports my theory that Jack Bauer is a Replicant.

Naaa. He's a really a cylon. Model #24.

[ArtBee]

As someone posted here last year, "Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas".

[rezzy]

My wife and I both thought there should have been something more exciting and more cathartic for Jack's return from China...an escape, a rescue operation..something.

C'mon, Jack had two years to figure out a way of there!

Other than that...we are right back into this stuff like nothing has happened.
Agreed. They could have dedicated an hour to his capture/escape; woulda' been way more interesting. I guess everyone including the terrorists were pretty much on hold until Bauer came back home.

[Stryker412]

Nice to see Dr. Bashir kicking some ass. :)

[ridgefamus]

I guess everyone including the terrorists were pretty much on hold until Bauer came back home.

It appeared to me that Bauer was brought back home as trade bait because the terrorists were active.

[scowl]

America does not negotiate with terrorists.
Nope we don't! We just hand them Jack Bauer for them to torture and kill in exchange for sketchy information without an argument! :)

If someone had told me Wayne Palmer had become the 24 President, I would have expected Americans to be afraid to leave their homes while the milliary dropped bombs on suburban homes. The guy nearly brought down David Palmer's administration single handedly in season 2 because he couldn't keep his pants zipped up. The country may be going to hell in a handbasket, but I'm sure hot babes are passing through the White House pretty quickly now.

[scanpa]

Showtime!

[scanpa]

Jack "Don't Get Up!" :)

[clevername]

I know everyone feels we should be suspending our disbelief and everything, but how are we supposed to believe that the President's brother in law would be treated like that?

Does anyone here actually believe he would not receive special treatment, no matter what Arab organization he was head of?

[Todd]

It's jumping back and forth between HD and SD here (WVBT-43 in Norfolk). Is this a local or national problem?


UPDATE: I heard from the engineer and it's a local router problem. They are working on it.

[clevername]

must be local. I've been HD the whole time.

[scanpa]

Episode 4 Time.

Do not miss this episode!


This episode will make you want Episode 5.

[David F]

Wayne Palmer is an even bigger pussy than President Logan was....

[scanpa]

Hope you have your sunscreen SPF 100000 if your in LA!

[flint350]

Weakest link, most unrealistic - is not all the time-warp transport and no blood thru clothes stuff. It's the new President. Sorry, brother or not, given his background and obvious (lack of) ability, this guy would not be the President. He belongs in an IHOP where he would make a great waffle.

[Aliens]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[ftboomer]

The Curtis shooting was more dramatic and "out of the blue" than the nuke. With 5 more nukes on the loose this is going to turn into Jericho

[Aliens]

Curtis :( :( :( :( :(

[clevername]

The Curtis shooting was more dramatic and "out of the blue" than the nuke. With 5 more nukes on the loose this is going to turn into Jericho

yep.

saw the nuke actually going off coming, but didn't think they'd actually kill Curtis (I'm assuming he's dead, but you never know). Too bad, Curtis was one of the few characters I could actually tolerate. Now it's down to Buchanan and Jack.

[scanpa]

The Curtis shooting was more dramatic and "out of the blue" than the nuke. With 5 more nukes on the loose this is going to turn into Jericho

4 of the 5 are left. One just lit up Valencia. :eek:

[Mike4HDTV]

Fantastic episode tonight.

Curtis being shot by Jack - Shocking.

A nuke going off - Wow.

Can't wait till next weeks episode.

[scanpa]

Curtis :( :( :( :( :(


My Fav of the show also.

:(

[scanpa]

Wayne Palmer is an even bigger pussy than President Logan was....

When will Jack become president. It's the only way this show can go off the air.

[scanpa]

yep.

saw the nuke actually going off coming, but didn't think they'd actually kill Curtis (I'm assuming he's dead, but you never know). Too bad, Curtis was one of the few characters I could actually tolerate. Now it's down to Buchanan and Jack.

Wait till you see who his replacement is! :eek:

[CPanther95]

Unfortunately the previews shown last night pretty much gave away the fact that the nuke was going to go off. They blew a great opportunity for a great dramatic effect.

The Curtis killing (or at least shooting) may have crossed my line for pulling for Jack. What the guy did deserved death - he should have tried to talk Curtis down and if that didn't work - oh well.

[Mike4HDTV]

Do any of you think that we will have any flashbacks this season showing how Jack was tortured when he was in China? I would like to see how he got some of those scars and burns epecially on his right hand.

[jim9251]

I hadn't watched 24 until this season because my local FOX channel just started carrying HD programming.

Holy cow! The nuke going off totally surprised me and it wasn't at all like Jericho, this show is well written, well acted and very very good. I'm hooked.

[flint350]

...The Curtis killing (or at least shooting) may have crossed my line for pulling for Jack. What the guy did deserved death - he should have tried to talk Curtis down and if that didn't work - oh well.

Not sure I get it - isn't that exactly what he did. Or are you suggesting something I'm missing?

[scanpa]

Do any of you think that we will have any flashbacks this season showing how Jack was tortured when he was in China? I would like to see how he got some of those scars and burns epecially on his right hand.

Most of the Torture scenes were covered in episode 6x00 the pre season show, that was included with the season 5 DVD box set.

That was about 6-7 months into his capture. after that he never said another word till he was released to Bill & Curtis in episode 6x01

[jpeckinp]

No flux-capacitor? That's heresay......! :mad:

Well that is subject to discussion. I work on RF equipment all day and a few of the units that I work on have a laser trimmed cap on them and if the flux is not removed from them it changes the capacitance. So could that not be a "Flux Capacitor"???? :D

[jonnythan]

Not sure I get it - isn't that exactly what he did. Or are you suggesting something I'm missing?
He means that Assad deserved death and that Jack should have tried to talk Curtis down. If Jack couldn't talk Curtis down, and Curtis shot Assad, then, well, that sucks, but Assad deserved death anyway. I think he'd argue that Assad's life wasn't worth shooting Curtis over.

[jluzbet]

for the haters out there that said this premiere sucked... Take that...

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[clevername]

it's tough to argue that when Assad's life, at that point in time, might save millions of American lives.

Kill him after this crisis is over? Sure. Let him die now at the height of the crisis? Can't let that happen.

Jack gave Curtis a chance. He realized Curtis wasn't going to back down. He did what he had to do.

[Ramsrule]

for the haters out there that said this premiere sucked... Take that...

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Yeah, the last 10 minutes of the show tonight turned everything around...... I was beginning to think that this was going to be a crappy season, but now it's looking pretty damn good at the moment! :D

I hate to see them kill off Curtis..... Maybe Jack should have tried to wound him first instead of going immediately for the kill-shot? :confused:

Oh well..... looking forward to next week!

[lax01]

Need more Bauer kills....

[ricwhite]

I hate to see them kill off Curtis..... Maybe Jack should have tried to wound him first instead of going immediately for the kill-shot? :confused:

Oh well..... looking forward to next week!

The way Curtis posiitioned himself left very little Jack could shoot. Other than a head shot, the neck was about the only option. That's the reason why Curtis positioned himself that way. He eliminated any "disabling" shots and only left fatal shots -- which he figured Jack wouldn't do.

I didn't see that one coming. The "unexpected" is what makes this series good. Last year it was Palmer, Michelle and Tony. So far this year it's Curtis. Who's next?

I also didn't see the nuke actually going off. I was actually surprised that it went that far. Five nukes this year is pretty extreme. I don't know how they're going to top that next year.

[jonnyozero3]

Next year I bet Jack will have to stop an unscheduled lemming migration before it gets to the pacific.

[mjohnsto]

I'm not getting any HD channels in San Jose, CA tonight. Just when I was tuning in for 24! Ugh. Anyone else having this problem?

[Ericglo]

for the haters out there that said this premiere sucked... Take that...

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Take what? If it wasn't for the last ten minutes, then the show would have sucked.

[OrleansDawg]

I thought the 2nd 2 hours were still very good. Not as good as the 1st night of tv but very solid. Kept me interested most of the time.

The last few minutes were very exciting though...got me pumped for the rest of the season

[cherry ghost]

I know everyone feels we should be suspending our disbelief and everything, but how are we supposed to believe that the President's brother in law would be treated like that?

Does anyone here actually believe he would not receive special treatment, no matter what Arab organization he was head of?


I might be wrong, but I don't think they're married. Not only that, but I don't think the President even knows that his sister is "involved" with the guy.

[igreg]

How did Fahead (sp?) survivie the nuclear blast? Wasn't he in the warehouse at the time? (Based on previews for next week)

[jonnythan]

I might be wrong, but I don't think they're married. Not only that, but I don't think the President even knows that his sister is "involved" with the guy.
Ding ding. She's not wearing a ring.

[nikeykid]

i agree that curtis dying was more dramatic than the nuke itself, in fact, i've not felt so emotional during this show since teri died. it was that powerful to me. the nuke was pretty nice, but i don't know why because they've done nuclear threats before, but i guess this one was over actual population.

[jabbathespud]

How did Fahead (sp?) survivie the nuclear blast? Wasn't he in the warehouse at the time? (Based on previews for next week)

Fayed left the warehouse about 25 minutes before the detonation, right after the package arrived.

I knew Curtis was not long for the world considering he was a guest star, not a regular.

[afrogt]

Wait till you see who his replacement is!

Why do I have a hunch that Tony Almeida never died?

If my guess counts as a spoiler, please delete.

[rolltide1017]

Five nukes this year is pretty extreme. I don't know how they're going to top that next year.
Next year is going to be interesting. See, because of the nuke going off, they are going to have to stop a mutated lizard called Godzilla.

[ldivinag]

I'm not getting any HD channels in San Jose, CA tonight. Just when I was tuning in for 24! Ugh. Anyone else having this problem?

comcast DVR had HD/dd5.1...

they claim to get their KTVU feed straight from sutro...

[HDTVFanAtic]

Did you notice the first commercial right after that scene when they went to break? It was Sprint. And the voice over said something like "want to be like a federal agent? get the new blah blah phone..."

It's only a matter of time before we hear Jack mutter "thank God that guy left his Sprint GPS enabled phone in the car!"

Cool show, fun action, but the advertising and sponsorship is too much.

I am sure you didn't see the DBS Dish on the house as they showed the Mushroom cloud - oh, about 6 times between the show and the previews of next week - lol. No problems with product placement there for Fox and Directv either!!!

[HDTVFanAtic]

They had the perfect setup to shift 24 to a new city this year and didn't capitalize on the oppurtunity. With Jack coming back from CHina and his release being negotiated 2 days earlier they could have had him arriving in NY or DC or anywhere.
-Evangelo2
Yes, but then they would have had to take the cast out of LA and film on location!!!!

God forbid they can't go home at night or pay extra cost for location shoots!

[HDTVFanAtic]

Agreed. They could have dedicated an hour to his capture/escape; woulda' been way more interesting. I guess everyone including the terrorists were pretty much on hold until Bauer came back home.

Sure, let's get him from China to LA in 60 minutes - that is believable as him crossing LA everytime in less than 10 minutes.

[HDTVFanAtic]

Fantastic episode tonight.

Curtis being shot by Jack - Shocking.

A nuke going off - Wow.

Can't wait till next weeks episode.

A nuke went off the other season as well as the President watched from AF1 - this time he watched from the Oval Office. In 24, the President always has to watch the nuke.

[HDTVFanAtic]

comcast DVR had HD/dd5.1...

they claim to get their KTVU feed straight from sutro...

In SFO, they had a direct feed of KTVU to Comcast - not OTA via Sutro. It was put in right before the Superbowl 2 years ago.

[Aliens]

Watched back-to-back episodes last night and didn’t have time to worry about checking my brain at the door. Great start! Flaws? Hell yes, but WGAS. The fastest 4 hours of TV I’ve ever watched (yeah, they’ve added 5 more minutes of commercials per ep.). The music continues to add so much tension. Still a great show!

Let me be the first to say Presidential Advisor Tom Lennox is the White House mole. For longtime 24 followers, the following exchange between Lennox and Palmer after agreeing to a full pardon for Assad should be a dead giveaway.

Close-up of Lennox and then of Palmer.

Lennox: “I still don’t like it.”

Palmer: “I understand. And it makes me appreciate your loyalty all the more, Tom.”

The first of what will be many hints along the way. Keep your eyes peeled.

[Aliens]

Hey, no one mentioned Milo is back. It was S1 when he last appeared, although, I was thinking it was S4. My, how time fly’s when you're having fun. :D

[lexluthor]

I don't think anyone mentioned yet that we did see the leader of the "bluetooth group" in the preview, so I guess we'll still find out what they are up to.

[d2s2]

Did anyone notice that Numair was wearing an orange jumpsuit as the clock hit 9:00 AM, but when he arrived at Fayed's safe house he was wearing a blue-grey jacket, shirt and pants? Did he slide down the batpole while running to the safehouse? :D

Also, when Roger Cross's name appeared in the credits as a "guest star" at the beginning of 0601, I said "Oh, no. They're going to kill Curtis this day." I didn't know it was going to be so quick. I think this leaves only KS as the only regular from Day 1 left on the show, with MJR as the only regular from Day 2 left. :(

There is one question that I have that I don't think was ever explained. The president in Day 4, I thought, survived the AF1 plane crash, but Logan remained president through Day 4 and Day 5. Did I miss something? Help would be appreciated - TIA.

[bphisig]

Did anyone notice that Numair was wearing an orange jumpsuit as the clock hit 9:00 AM, but when he arrived at Fayed's safe house he was wearing a blue-grey jacket, shirt and pants? Did he slide down the batpole while running to the safehouse? :D

Changed in the car? The bigger question is how he managed to get off the premises and changed in 10 minutes.

Also, when Roger Cross's name appeared in the credits as a "guest star" at the beginning of 0601, I said "Oh, no. They're going to kill Curtis this day." I didn't know it was going to be so quick. I think this leaves only KS as the only regular from Day 1 left on the show, with MJR as the only regular from Day 2 left. :(

I didn't even notice his being a guest star until last night. By MJR, I am assuming you mean Chloe, but she didn't show up until Day 3. Everyone from day 1 and 2 is gone, except Jack of course.

There is one question that I have that I don't think was ever explained. The president in Day 4, I thought, survived the AF1 plane crash, but Logan remained president through Day 4 and Day 5. Did I miss something? Help would be appreciated - TIA.

I think he must have been injured to the point that he couldn't come back. But you're right, they hinted that he was still alive, but never really covered the extent of his injuries.

[O2C]

Random thoughts / observations / responses:

A very large number of consumer grade cell phones can easily return a street map from lat/long. My cell phone received FCC approval nearly three years ago and does it easily. The key is a data package / internet access / WAP access.

Kal Penn was slightly miscast or the role should have be rewritten for him. Achmed (being a varient of the most standard Ahmed) is an Arabic name and the role appeared to have been written for an Arab as opposed to an Indian (or even a Gujarati). Casting Indians as Arabs (ala Lost) is kind of annoying. Just rewrite it as an Islamic Indian, especially considering that India has more than 6 times the Muslim population than Saudia Arabia.

I don't know why someone complained that Nadia didn't look Arabic. I mean I speak Spanish and I don't look like a Spaniard.

And velocity doesn't move you forward in time. Higher velocities makes you experience time at a slower rate than those you're measuring your velocity relative to.

I hate to say it, but I'm glad they killed of Curtis. He's been along side Jack through way to many bombings, shootings, knifings, etc without a scratch.

[SbWillie]

Curtis didn't ide..he is out of commision and done with CTU..might as well be dead.

[noleintheburg]

The thing about this show (once you check your sense of reality at the begining), is thatwhen they kill off a main character, it is always bittersweet, the only main character that went off in a blaze of glory, was the dude who flew the plane with the nuke into the desert, but he was dying from radiation poisioning anyway.

I remember Jack having to shoot his boss in the head.....that was almost as much of a shocker as last night, I did not see that coming, I thought for sure Curtis was gonna plug Assad.

[cemkf3]

Considering that Curtis didn't appear until day 4, I don't see how that changes anything. Tony was the last remaining regular from day 1 besides Jack to be knocked off if my memory serves me correctly. Who is MJR? If it is Chloe (MLR) She didn't make an appearance until day 3 when Jack was trying to get off his drug addiction.

Also Aaron Pierce is still able to come back to the show. I don't know if he will or not but if he does he will have appeared in all 6 seasons as well.

[Viventis]

I wonder how many bonehead decisions President Palmer is going to make this season. Maybe he will give his sister to the terrorists in exchange for a promise not to use the next nuke during a Laker game.

[NorthJersey]

Next year is going to be interesting. See, because of the nuke going off, they are going to have to stop a mutated lizard called Godzilla.

or Tara Reid ! :)

[scottro]

Kal Penn was slightly miscast or the role should have be rewritten for him. Achmed (being a varient of the most standard Ahmed) is an Arabic name and the role appeared to have been written for an Arab as opposed to an Indian (or even a Gujarati). Casting Indians as Arabs (ala Lost) is kind of annoying. Just rewrite it as an Islamic Indian, especially considering that India has more than 6 times the Muslim population than Saudia Arabia.

I hate to say it, but I'm glad they killed of Curtis. He's been along side Jack through way to many bombings, shootings, knifings, etc without a scratch.

Well, Adoni Maropis (Fayed) is Greek, but looks like a bad guy...I'm sure that's close enough for the majority of Americans watching this show.

I hated to see Curtis go, but in the world of 24 he far outlived the life expectancy of the people that come in contact with Jack Bauer.

[NorthJersey]

damn, at the rate the writers are writing off previous seasons' cast members, I expect Buchanen to die by the end of this season, and who knows how much longer Chloe has to live. If she goes, hopefully it'll be Rambo style like she did with the machine gun (can't remember if that was last season or the one before).

Great episodes so far, but the one "filler" I couldn't stand was when Chloe had to step in and break up the spat between Milo and Morris, where we find out the Chloe dated Milo before Morris. Once that was done, all of a sudden the two boys were good friends again. Blah, horrible writing there...

One other thing, do the other 4 nukes really have to be in LA ? C'mon terrorists/writers/producers, can't you place nukes in other cities across the country ?

[properbostonian]

I hated to see Curtis go, but in the world of 24 he far outlived the life expectancy of the people that come in contact with Jack Bauer.

You're right and Chloe should feel fortunate she is a fan favorite. Otherwise, she probably would have met an unexpected demise many seasons ago.

I know it doesn't make sense to want to leave a hit show but I am curious to know if he asked out? It wasn't exactly a dynamic character he was playing.

[CPanther95]

Not sure I get it - isn't that exactly what he did. Or are you suggesting something I'm missing?

I meant he should have tried to talk Curtis down, and if that didn't work, he shouldn't have shot him - even if that beheading bastard got popped.

[CPanther95]

Just a reminder that this is a "No Spoiler" thread for 24. Any spoilers should be discussed here: Spoilers Thread for 24 on Fox - Day 6 - WARNING: No Spoiler Tags (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=788612)

Any posts with spoilers (even with spoiler tags) will be deleted. Also note that even if it is not a true spoiler, any use of spoiler tags will flag the post for deletion.

[steverobertson]

Just a reminder that this is a "No Spoiler" thread for 24. Any spoilers should be discussed here: Spoilers Thread for 24 on Fox - Day 6 - WARNING: No Spoiler Tags (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=788612)

Any posts with spoilers (even with spoiler tags) will be deleted. Also note that even if it is not a true spoiler, any use of spoiler tags will flag the post for deletion.


Thanks I appreciate you doing this. I for one don't like being tempted and also don't like to stumble across things by accident as I did with the Curtis killing last night although I didn't know it was him I knew someone was going.

[Stewed]

Why do I have a hunch that Tony Almeida never died?

If my guess counts as a spoiler, please delete.


I've been trying to convince my viewing posse that Tony's not dead, he was my favorite character aside from Jack so I hope it's true.

Long Live his Cubs Mug!
Death to Chloe!

[sleeks]

Curtis didn't ide..he is out of commision and done with CTU..might as well be dead.

From Fox's 24 website episode recap:

9:55 A.M.
Jack drops his gun and raises his hands in a gesture not of surrender but of despair at Curtis’s death. Jack walks away in tears. He vomits and falls to the ground.

[CPanther95]

I wonder how many bonehead decisions President Palmer is going to make this season. Maybe he will give his sister to the terrorists in exchange for a promise not to use the next nuke during a Laker game.

Not sure I'd consider that a boneheaded move - whether or not the nuke was set off anyway.

[scottro]

My money says that Edgar comes back from the dead to save the day; slim, lisp-free and ready to KICK ASS :D

Or KICK ATH if I was wrong about the lisp... :p

[hv9200]

Damn ice storm knocked out cable last night, I recorded Sunday's premier and now I lost last nights episodes due to power outage...anyone know if the 2007 series is played on another network?

[Iteki]

Would a group of angry Swedes make it more realistic for ya, or maybe suicide bombing Belgians?

"FREE LICHTENSTEIN!"

[jewing1043]

They showed a commercial during the show that said that you could go out and purchase the first 4 hours on dvd today

anyone else notice that or have any idea on the price?????

[Reshired]

I think Jack and Jillian (Scotts mom) will get together(romanticly) sometime in a future episode. Jack had always has a romantic tie or 2.

Jack and Jillian went up the hillian to fetch a terrorist or 2 some wata...

[JCL]

They showed a commercial during the show that said that you could go out and purchase the first 4 hours on dvd today

anyone else notice that or have any idea on the price?????

It's $10 up here in Canada, must be about $5 down there n the states. Ha.

[Reshired]

It's $10 up here in Canada, must be about $5 down there n the states. Ha.

Who needs a DVD when you have an HD DVR.

[bobby94928]

It's $10 up here in Canada, must be about $5 down there n the states. Ha.

Right on. $10 at Best Buy.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=24&sc=Global&cp=1&sp=&qp=crootcategoryid%23%23-1%23%23-1%7E%7Eq3234%7E%7Enccat02015%23%230%23%2310&list=n&usc=All+Categories&nrp=15&iht=n

[Iteki]

Kumar looks like he's going to bite the big Slider tonight, but after H&KGTWC, can't really take him seriously as a terrorist. I'm waiting for Neil Patrick Harris to stop by and steal his car

"NPH would never do that!"

[Iteki]

Same thing I was thinking. Quite possibly Chinese?

More likely Indonesian (high Muslim population)

[hv9200]

Who needs a DVD when you have an HD DVR.
For when there is an ice storm and knocks the cable/power out....I will consider this option now. Best buy has it for 9.99...wonder if netflix has it...hmmm

[Iteki]

Nice to see Dr. Bashir kicking some ass. :)


Glad I'm not the only one who remembers DS9...where's the Chief? They need one last adventure!

[Iteki]

Jack "Don't Get Up!" :)


My fiance was commenting that this show was getting old, always the same old plots. Then this happened and we both cracked up :-)

THese are the moments that make 24 worth watching, regardless of plot holes.

Jack Bauer is the ultimate alpha male...no 'federal agent, i'm commandeering your car, sorry blah blah blah', just the purely practical 'don't get up' (or I'll bust you up).

[Iteki]

Unfortunately the previews shown last night pretty much gave away the fact that the nuke was going to go off. They blew a great opportunity for a great dramatic effect.

The Curtis killing (or at least shooting) may have crossed my line for pulling for Jack. What the guy did deserved death - he should have tried to talk Curtis down and if that didn't work - oh well.

Jack is a creature of duty first and foremost. How many friends has he lost? How many people has he tortured/killed. For him it's all about the greater good and getting the job done. Curtis got in the way of that...he never had a chance. :-(

Heck, Jack had to work with Nina, who murdered his wife and unborn child. And Curtis gets all in a lather over soldiers who took a soldiers chance and got unlucky.

[Iteki]

How did Fahead (sp?) survivie the nuclear blast? Wasn't he in the warehouse at the time? (Based on previews for next week)

He left beforehand I believe.

[JCL]

Who needs a DVD when you have an HD DVR.

I dumped the first 4 from the HD DVR to DVD, saved 9 bucks.

[Iteki]

One other thing, do the other 4 nukes really have to be in LA ? C'mon terrorists/writers/producers, can't you place nukes in other cities across the country ?

Cheaper production costs I'm sure. This hasn't always been a hit show, and it's gotta be expensive to produce with all the action/stunts/effects.

[Iteki]

Good start. What I like about this show is that despite always being in LA, and having the same sort of plots, etc. they are never afraid to shake things up on the personal level with the characters. They create characters we care about (loving or hating) and then put them in real jeopardy. Sometimes that means killing them off.

That (and Jack's general badassness) is what keeps me tuning in.

[fredfa]

(From Marc Berman’s Tuesday, Jan. 16, 2007, Programming Insider blog at Mediaweek.com )
http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/25010382

Note: These metered market numbers are based on household rating and share in 52 markets, and exclude the St. Lous and Tulsa markets. They are broken out by half hour.

NBC
8:00 p.m. Golden Globe Awards 14.2/20
8:30 p.m. Golden Globe Awards 16.0/22
9:00 p.m. Golden Globe Awards 15.8/22
9:30 p.m. Golden Globe Awards 16.3/23
10:00 p.m. Golden Globe Awards 16.8/25
10:30 p.m. Golden Globe Awards 15.1/24

Note: The year-ago average for The Golden Globe Awards was a 15.3/22. Last night's average was a 15.7/23.

Fox
8:00 p.m. 24 9.8/14
8:30 p.m. 24 10.1/14
9:00 p.m. 24 10.2/14
9:30 p.m. 24 10.4/14

• Source: Nielsen Media Research data (R = repeat)