No one playing PC games anymore? [Text View]

Scotty L

12-09-06, 11:47 PM

ehh there are sooo many pc games it's hard to talk about it here.

I could go on & on about Marvel Ultimate Alliance (I even made a site about it (www.marvelmods.com) :)). Same goes for mohaa or graw, but everyone has different tastes. It's more fun to talk about those games on forums that are specifically about them, where we can nitpick at every detail.

It's different for consoles because there are only a handful of "hot" games that everyone has and can talk about. When Crysis comes out everyone will want that then you'll see discussion pick up in this "general" PC gaming forum.

eidt- this looks pretty neat:

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/737/737992/vids_1.html

oktoberrust11

12-10-06, 12:17 AM

I'm still playing BF2 mostly. And Defcon.

Tinker

12-10-06, 12:36 AM

Playing same old same old here, BF2 and BF2142. Really nothing new in FPS lately for PC. Done Prey, Fear, Doom, Quake and Oblivion etc..... Havent played a RTS in a long time so I just bought Company of Heroes. It I cant kill something in the game I dont play it....:D

HorrorScope

12-10-06, 02:19 AM

Not the best site in the world for videogames imo. This is a A/V site imo, I stroll in to take a peek but 2nd rate videogame forum and that isn't a slam, AVS wasn't about that.

N8DOGG

12-10-06, 05:29 PM

Ya I just went out and got company of heros and I've realized how much I hate RTS games lol. "their guy is right beside you dumbass SHOOT HIM MAN!!!!!!!!! ) its much to frustrating to play when I can be tender of my own fate!
I though I read that crysis got pushed to Q3 of 07 but I'm not 100% sure. I'm waiting for quake wars and UT2007 as well as crysis they look like alot of fun!
Right now I'm basically only playing BF2142 and I threw back in pacific fighters but I'm really waiting for something new to feed my need for killing lol

Doctor Krypton

12-10-06, 10:40 PM

Unless something earth shattering comes out for the PS I'm all but done with PC games.
In fact, if I could go back I would not have even bothered with a gaming rig.

greenman

12-10-06, 10:49 PM

I'm sure lots of new games are on the horizon. DX10 and vista aren't even out yet, nor alot of the hardware to support them. I pretty sure that game developers are holding off for all that to settle down to release the games. Kind of like when a new console comes out, the older consoles quit releasing games until the newer ones have come out.

N8DOGG

12-11-06, 12:39 PM

Ya sometimes I almost regret spending all the money on my pc but then I look to whats coming out and how much time I spend on it and really it makes the justification worth while IMO

Jim S

12-11-06, 08:05 PM

I've got networked gaming PCs, an xbox, and an xbox360. I would consider myself more of a PC gamer but I've spent alot of time lately on GOW because it plays more like a PC game (thank you EPIC). ;) But I am also playing GRAW on the PC and have GTR2 waiting in the wings and will probably get RB6 Vegas on PC if they didn't muck it up.

The PC forum has always been less active. I've marveled at the stuff that they manage to find to talk about on the console forums. :D It feels like a younger crowd other there. Sort of like Special Ops versus enlisted. :D

Caswell

12-12-06, 08:53 AM

I'm recovering from a few years of playing MMORPG's. I try to stay far, far away from my PC when I want a gaming fix.

Scotty L

12-12-06, 10:07 AM

I'm recovering from a few years of playing MMORPG's. I try to stay far, far away from my PC when I want a gaming fix.
haha, did you see the editorial in this month's PC Gamer? The guy said he lost 40 pounds after quitting WoW. But now that the expansion is coming along he says it looks like he'll gain it all back again. :eek:

jhoff80

12-12-06, 05:47 PM

I'm considering switching over to console gaming. I mean I've always had consoles, but I guess what I'm really doing is giving up on PC gaming. Its not that I don't enjoy it- its that its way too expensive. Besides that, the last PC game I played was Half-Life 2. There are games in the future that definitely interest me (Crysis being the main one), but quite a few other games that I'm interested in (such as Alan Wake) will be available on consoles too. I definitely love that the games can look much better on the PC, but I'm not quite so sure I can justify the expense anymore with how few PC games I actually play, and how few and far between the big releases are. I'd definitely miss mouse/keyboard FPS control, but with the amount of money I'd save, I think I could probably deal.

(To stress my point, my Wii and original Xbox, as well as my DS have been used many more times than my PC for gaming.)

csnow

12-12-06, 07:10 PM

The "Games for Windows" kiosks should be going up soon in retail stores. I think DX10, Vista, and the new MS marketing campaign will reinvigorate the PC market. Game studios will be able to leverage their development costs over both the PC and 360. Also, MS Live will allow PC and console gamers to play each other. Should be interesting....

TheMadMilkman

12-12-06, 08:55 PM

haha, did you see the editorial in this month's PC Gamer? The guy said he lost 40 pounds after quitting WoW. But now that the expansion is coming along he says it looks like he'll gain it all back again. :eek:

People with no self-control make me sad.

Brady84

12-12-06, 10:38 PM

Flyhigh

12-12-06, 11:17 PM

I came across this thread and it made me think "wow, I really don't play PC games anymore". I started to think why this has become the case and I came up with a few reasons. Let me just say that when Medal of Honor, Call of Duty and Battlefield 1942 (and Desert Combat) were in their prime, I rarely played games on my xbox that weren't sports. In fact, I remember playing MOHAA online until the sun came up a number of times. Those games were great. They had their drawbacks too. The cheating was a big one for me. It became so rampant that I would no longer try to find games without cheaters, I would just deal with it as part of the game. Some of the cheating was not "modding" but just buggy software. People would constantly be able to get underneath maps or shoot through walls or take advantage of other glitches to ruin the game. The constant patch updates also became annoying. That's not to say that this kind of behavior does not exist on consoles, but it is so much less prevalent. While it's not cheating, the other thing about PC gaming that creates an unbalanced playing field is the fact that not everyone is playing on the same platform. One system may be able to play a game with all of the graphics turned up, presenting the maximum amount of visual cues while another system would be so choppy as to be almost unplayable. That leads to the fact that in order to keep up with the latest games, an investment of roughly $3000 would be needed to purchase a decent gaming system and as my computer aged, I began to question whether that was worth it or not when the alternative was $2500 less expensive.
Other issues I had with PC games were that they were just to complicated and frustrating at times. Things like not being able to voice chat with your team mates without awkward add on programs like Roger Wilco took some of the fun out of team play. Not being able to join friends easily in Battlefield became a huge drawback. Having to change DMZ and other network settings on routers and firewalls almost made hosting games more complicated then the hassle was worth. Of course, theres always the windows operating system that all of these games work through that would inevitably freeze up at the worst possible times. Also, I'd grow grey hair by the time my pc loaded, then the game loaded, and then that map loaded.
I'm sure some of these problems have since been made easier but with consoles, the convenience is just too appealing, and on the Xbox 360 Live, joining, hosting and meeting with friends is made simple and efficient. Do the latest PC games look better then the latest console games? Maybe. How much do you have to spend to own a PC to run those games at the resolution and with all the goodies turned up to match the consoles? Do I miss the keyboard and mouse playing FPS games. I'm not going to lie, hell yeah I do but you know what? You get used to the controller and at least I know that no one is binding keys to strafe and lean and run at the same time ;)
I'd sure miss those good old Medal of Honor days a lot more if I didn't spend all my time playing Gears of War till the sun comes up. :D

ChrisFB

12-15-06, 08:29 PM

Probably a few things that have been mentioned.

1) This is a HUGE release time for consoles and there is massive hype all over it.

2) PC gaming has dwindled a bit and the expense can be high if you want to make sure you always have eye candy in the latest title.

3) Vista and DX10 is yet on the horizon and needs to get established. This is a PC lull compared to a Console tsunami (i.e. possibly the most exciting period we will see in a 5-10 year period).

4) This is an AV forum or home theater - PC gaming with mouse and KB can be awkward. The television and 10' interface is the realm of the console

5) Not a great gaming forum. The draw for me used to be maturity here and getting an opinion from a man/woman rather than a 10 year old boy. Now that "Home Theater" and HD are all the rage and anyone who purchases a LCD or DLP based display and owns a console is now a home theater gamer posting here - it has degenerated to some degree (hence the tougher moderation and the split into 5 subforums when there used to be 1 big one).

hdtv00

12-15-06, 10:03 PM

Read the last page of the new Games For Windows mag and you'll have your answer in a nutshell. Pc companies have gotten lazy and sloppy release games that have no business being put out yet. Patches on day of release are far to common and often never even solve the problems or just create new ones.

How many pc games in the last 4 months were nothing but 360 ports and bad last gen dumbed down ports at that...sure given time vista, games for windows and the killer pc games will come. But how many of us will still care at that point. The sky isn't falling it just looks like its about to rain is all.

I do like that games now have to be widescreen and 360 controller able to be labeled on the game for windows platform but its just not the pcs time lately really.

Twylight

12-16-06, 12:53 AM

I have recently whooped a few pc games

titans quest
Darkstar one
neverwinter nights 2
gothic 3
bf2142
a little wow here and there

a few trends i dont like in pc gaming
retread RTS and shooters
crap mmo's from korean

Ill be honest I think I like Bioware/BIS type games the best - ill likely follow them to the 360 and ignore the PC except for 2142/wow.

For some reason i cant get into GoW on the 360 - i need to try again

I think im gonna play Xenosaga 3 on ps2 next...and i put a wii under my christmas tree cause my wife might get me shirts if i dont =)

dj4monie

12-25-06, 06:18 PM

Its all about money -

The best game developers are not making PC games. That's just the truth. There's no money in PC games. As was mentioned by others, PC developers always seem to focus on visuals and not actual game play, something that has always been a target of gamers when you compare the PS's intial focus on 3D games over 2D and Nintendo's stance on gameplay over graphics.

Just like the Wii is not the graphical powerhouse the PS3 is, they tout gameplay over graphics to go with the lower MSRP. I still think its a mistake by Nintendo as more and more people drop coin on LCD and Plasma TV's, your just not going to have many core game players with CTR's anymore.

So basically Nintendo set themselves up to be a very DISTANCE 3rd in the console wars. PC's problem has been pushing the visual window to try and keep pace with consoles improved graphical power. What they forgot is that, alot of people aren't willing to upgrade their hardware for the latest releases.

In 2 PC's owned, I have purchased just 2 video cards -

ATI AIW Rage
ATI AIW 9600XT

As you can see my focus as been on other accepts of these cards, but I didn't want to not be able to play any games, so I spent more than the average game player does on hardware.

I just refuse to spend $400 for a card to play games on, when the PC libuary is seriously LIMITED in terms of games I would actually buy and play.

I have played more MAME and other emulators on my PC than actual PC game releases.

I wanted to play GTR when it came out, but when I saw you needed top grade hardware just to run the game at a decent level, I decided to skip it. Pro Race Driver plays smoothly on here, but I fear TOCA 2 wouldn't fair as well and I didn't buy it.

It just seems silly to me to have to buy hardware every 2-3 years when the average console lifespan is 5-10 years.

Somebody should post screen images from NFS: Carbon on the PS3, Xbox 360 and PC with any PC card you can think of and the graphical difference is MINIMAL at best and both games run SMOOTHLY at 60fps with room to spare.

So talking 2nd gen 360 games compared to 1st gen PS3 games with version 4 releases of Nvida or ATI graphics (PS3 graphic chip is Nvidia, 360 chip is ATI/AMD) drivers. Sure PC's when enabled can have a few more levels of detail, but they hardly ADD to gameplay.

PC's for the momement will still be the platform of choice for point & click games and other games that don't need a joystick or wheel to play.

Even budget gaming rigs are pricey, even compared to what some people are paying for PS3. You can't argue you'll get more out of a PC, because your already typing on one, which means you have one already. If you coming from a Pent3/AMD K6-2 machine, then that argument would be valid...

mohanman

12-26-06, 05:38 PM

I havent played a single pc game since xbox 360 came out. ps3/wii also makes it less comfortable to sit in front of a monitor and play with keyboard/mouse. I wish sometime in the future pc gaming will be as easy to get a game going as it is with these systems. I am glad that microsoft is making that wireless adapter for the pads and headset. Now if they can just get a standarized output like hdtv for those of us playing on plasmas/lcds etc, and easy launch software.
Mo!

modiGTI

01-08-07, 03:27 AM

I feel the same as most here. I use to be all about PC gaming and the only thing I liked on console was Final Fantasy and GT but it's just takes too much $$$ to keep up these days. When I don't meet the specs to run the game, it's really annoying to play the game on low settings. Yeah it's about gameplay but I want the enjoy the eye candy also.

Jaxcomet

01-08-07, 03:11 PM

Too much PC gaming for me. World of Warcraft has had me sucked in since June leaving my XB360 collecting dust.

Even Gears of War (which I did buy) cannot drag me away..........

FiveMillionWays

01-09-07, 02:33 AM

I'm waiting for Crysis!

goatwuss

01-11-07, 03:36 PM

Warcraft 3 is still my game of choice - I play it every day, though not too much ladder anymore. (I play DOTA for the most part. SO much fun and so addictive)

I used to be a hardcare PC gamer, started from the beginning with the EGA Sierra games, but really, there have been so few really good games out for PC in the last couple of years. I loved oblivion, and I'm playing Neverwinter Nights 2 now which is pretty fun... but I don't like the counterstrike clones, or the mundane war-simulation games.

I just got my Wii a couple days ago, and it is loads of fun. So until more ORIGINAL games come out for PC, it will probably just collect dust. (except for warcraft 3, which is in a separate category for me)

(that category is "addictions" in case you are wondering)

wokisan

01-15-07, 06:50 PM

Waiting for Crysis as well and getting ready to build a new Vista rig (haven't upgraded in a while).

But I'm still playing Civ IV, Sid Meier's Railroads, AoE III, and a little Sim City 4. I recently got back to playing Sin Episodes: EP 1. But I admit, the consoles have grabbed more of my attention this winter.

powerstroke

01-16-07, 10:24 PM

Still playing COD-UO regularly online. Keeps me interested with all the diff custom maps and mods.

pestario

01-17-07, 10:24 AM

I am a fairly recent PC gamer that switched over to consoles 100%. I am already starting to lean towards building a gaming rig again. I really like some of the MMO that are coming thisyear not tom mention Crysis, hellgate london, etc.

HorrorScope

01-17-07, 01:07 PM

What I find interesting is that a lot of issues consoles are now having are reason why people left pc gaming. PC gaming in the end is still king over here but we can have fun on the consoles to.

Troubleshooter

01-17-07, 03:24 PM

I admit I did get a Wii and have been playing it but honestly, I just haven't seen anything that strikes me as great on the PC for a while. It's unfortunate!
-Trouble

VisionOn

01-17-07, 03:38 PM

I divide my time between PC, PS and 360. There are strengths and weaknesses on all fronts but to say there are no good game developers working on the PC is ridiculous. The PC still owns the world of strategy, rpg, simulation and first person. If you compare the upcoming releases of consoles and PC over the next year the PC lineup is far more interesting and diverse.

Consoles may have more titles but they all basically variations on the same things. There is nothing pushing the envelope on consoles like Spore, Crysis or Huxley that wasn't developed initially for the PC. So while PCs might get ports of console games, the consoles also get ports of PC games and in both cases neither translate that well.

And Gears of War wouldn't even exist on the 360 if it wasn't for Epic's development on the PC. Their biggest PC franchise is the reason that game exits at all.

modiGTI

01-18-07, 03:45 AM

I forgot about Spore...that is a must have for me.

ChrisFB

01-18-07, 10:33 AM

Once the console launch of the last 1-1.5 years is behind us and the everlasting Vista delay period is through (basically the same 1-1.5 years), PC gaming should heat up again. DX10 too. Frankly though, I don't think it's too bad. There have been some really high quality games and I'm still fairly adicted to Battlefield especially the PEO2 mod.

HeadRusch

01-18-07, 01:45 PM

I for one have kinda dropped completely out of the PC gaming aspect of things, and am not sure if I will return. Battlefield 2 I'd probably still play against the bots, but the game is mature enough now that jumping into public games just isn't going to be fun for me...my character has hardly any stats (Think I'm still a lance corporal....hmmmm).

I've waffled for awhile on building a new rig, but then decided against it totally when I realized I couldn't find any games that I expected to play that I thought I'd actually enjoy.
What I might do is get one of those ATI Radeon AGP cards that are due out soon, that would give my system more legs and help me drive my 1080p monitor......

I even bought the $20 dollar Half Life 2 add on, and I think I stopped at the first level....it just did nothing for me. I couldn't get into it. To this day it sits there, unused but installed.

Also, gaming at my desk is starting to seem very pedestrian to me :) Adding insult to injury I've learned to appreciate FPS's with a joypad. This is terrible for person-to-person battles in terms of ACCURACY, but against equally crippled opponents also using joypads...and against AI monsters in games....then its more than adequate. I no longer miss a KBM control in my FPS...a horror among horrors and someplace I never thought I'd go.

I think the key factor now with DX10 is going to be this: You're gonna have to expend a decent chunk of change to get gaming with Vista.....*is it worth it*. For alot of people, I'm guessing myself included, the answer may be "no". Dropping a grand or more to play a couple FPS's (that will also be on Console) and maybe a driving or RTS game is just not enough to justify the expenditure....

nameless33

02-10-07, 03:57 AM

mohanman

02-11-07, 10:59 PM

I used to be a big pc gamer, but it is so much easier and much more fun to sit on the couch and play 360 (gears) or halo2 with headset and friends throughout the country. Plus it is much cheaper to get one system rather then upgrading the damn system every month for hundreds of dollars. That is why I got a Mac Pro! yes I went from Alienware to Mac Pro, and I love it! Mac on one hard drive, windows on another. And you know what? It works!

Lates!

HeadRusch

02-12-07, 09:06 AM

I got kinda stuck on unreal tournament botmatches. Found a map I liked and a bunch of skins for the bots, cranked up the gamespeed and I play it forever. Tried UT2004 and I like the zoomed instagib deathmatch playing the low grav Plunge map for a "change". I'm old school, I like seeing body parts bouncing around after I frag'em.

I also love playing botmatch, tho I really hate the fact that in many of the single player games like CTF they just aren't very helpful, I've hit a brick wall on some of those maps because the bots just aren't any help, no matter what commands I'm giving them, and its frustrating not being able to progress.

heids24

02-12-07, 05:18 PM

Seems to be a common theme here, but I too am a waverying PC gamer moving over to the console side. I've always had consoles, but mainly played them for the sports games. With the launch of the new powerful next gen systems, the pains and cost of pc gaming just isn't as appealing. About every 2.5 years I'd drop about $3000 on a new rig so I could play all the latest games with all the juice turned up. Not that I ever thought it was money well spent, but now that I'm due for a new $3000+ system again, I don't think I can pull the trigger. (I'm married now so that changes the story a bit as well!) The next gen systems have really closed the gap on PC's. I admit, I do miss the ole keyboard and mouse control and hope something like that is released for the Xbox360 in the near future. I also miss all the multiplayer add-on maps and game mods that were available as free downloads. Those features certainly extended the life of any game. However, Xbox Live is doing a much better job creating the type of multiplayer environment that had formerly been exclusive to the pc. I've been playing COD3 on XBL and am loving every minute of it. The graphics on some of those maps are amazing. The gameplay is fast and there's lots of variety in the way you can play the game. It's as much fun as I've had playing the BF series or Counterstrike Source on the PC. Plus I don't think the next gen systems have reached their full potential yet. I think we'll see some pretty strong showings over the next year or so as game developers figure out how to take advantage of all that power. Although I am intrigued at what DX10 hold for the future of pc gaming. Who knows, once the pc market is flooded with solid DX10 games that surpass the console games, I could very well find myself shelling out for my next $3000+ pc. Sigh...the downfalls of being an Early Adopter.

HeadRusch

02-12-07, 06:06 PM

The real problem is that there hasn't been a real uber-cool FPS since FEAR.....the biggest game release since then was the Fear Expansion pack :P Driving and the occasional hard core flight sim are the last sole domain of the PC these days. Even RTS's are being done on consoles now, and RPG's. Run Oblivion on your $400 xbox 360? Or sit at your desk on a small monitor and play it on a PC that will require a $400 videocard alone to get it to run acceptably.

No new Lucas Jedi games, no new Quakes or Dooms...that multiplayer QuakeWars add on/full game isn't anywhere close to being seen, HL2 episode 2 is taking forever (for a game that supposedly adds less than 6 hours of single play time..WTF Valve!? and now it not due till the END of this year??).....Sin's first episode came and went like a wet fart....Battlefield 2 was great but al of the expansion packs were greeted with a resounding "meh"...even Battlefield 2142 didn't kick off the way BF2 did, it was more a MOD than a brand new game. All the upcoming "super FPS's" have been delayed..and delayed. Crysis looks nice but its not looking evolutionary, not revolutionary. STRIKER or whatever its called from Europe looks nice but we all know those european-developed games can go alot of different ways......could be pretty but lousy performanc,e or lousy game AI, etc. BIOSHOCK and other such games are coming cross platform...will you need a mouse/keyboard precision for these games? Jury is out...

Meanwhile CoD2 comes out on the PC and at 1280x720 runs at 20fps on everyones high-end rig, but it pushes 60fps on the Xbox360 at the same resolution....which discouraged alot of people who then discovered "you know, this game doesn't play so bad with the joypad".

This is the first generation of consoles to stand toe to toe with the PC in terms of graphics and, in many ways, eclipsing it. There's far more gaming being done with pretty graphics and lots of HDR on the console side of things, meanwhile for the same effect on the PC you need a $300+ videocard and a reasonably fast PC......so people are definately going "What exactly am I upgrading for?".

The Xbox and PS2 used to get inferior ports of PC games. the 360 and PS3 will likely now get first-run games and the PC will get the ports.

Tho many will not admit this, PC gamings writing is on the wall....it'll never die, but much like Mac users have lamented for years, there will reach a point where we'll start to go "Aww this sucks, there's no PC version planned".

SpeedyHTPC

02-13-07, 11:01 AM

Um, isn't the Xbod 360 NOT directx 10 compliant? What happens then?

I cannot stand button mashing.

I am a big GRAW, rainbow 6 Vegas player. How the hell can you aim quickly and fast with an analog joystick? Doesnt it always overshoot where you want it to go?

jones07

02-13-07, 11:41 AM

I'm a flight and racing sim fan-man and if you are Hardcore like me, PC is the only place to get your fix. Consoles are a unfunny joke when it comes to fight and racing sims
http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php

VisionOn

02-13-07, 03:17 PM

This is the first generation of consoles to stand toe to toe with the PC in terms of graphics and, in many ways, eclipsing it. There's far more gaming being done with pretty graphics and lots of HDR on the console side of things, meanwhile for the same effect on the PC you need a $300+ videocard and a reasonably fast PC......so people are definately going "What exactly am I upgrading for?".

The Xbox and PS2 used to get inferior ports of PC games. the 360 and PS3 will likely now get first-run games and the PC will get the ports.

Tho many will not admit this, PC gamings writing is on the wall....it'll never die, but much like Mac users have lamented for years, there will reach a point where we'll start to go "Aww this sucks, there's no PC version planned".

here we go again ... Blizzard and their 9 million subscribers would have something to say about that. This prediction appears every time a console is released and in two years while the 360 and PS3 are stuck with same hardware the PC will overtake them once again.

There are better quality titles coming out for the PC over the next few months than any console. The PS3 is being loaded up with PC/360 ports and the high caliber first runs for the 360 are thin on the ground when it's not getting PC ports. In addition the consoles might get UT, but the PC is where the action and development will be. As it always has.

The majority of big envelope pushing games that will be released this year will be PC based games. I've never been bothered if a console game doesn't make it to the PC, because the vast majority are not particularly ground breaking.

ChrisFB

02-13-07, 04:55 PM

With Vista and DX10 out, plus the new cards making a quantum leap in performance (8800s) I can't imagine the PC will be out in the cold for long. Technology will get cheaper and filter down - resolution is pretty much maxed at 1080p for most desktops/HTPCs so I'd expect a lot prettier textures and effects. MSFT is starting to get behind the PC for gaming again. The new OS is now in place so no more uncertainty among software devs and hardware manufacturers. I mean really, the situation over the last 4-5 months could not have been any worse and MSFT seemed to be doing everything to hurt PC gaming rather than help it. A lot of that is behind us now.

But as was said, content content content. FPS fans need a new fix. I'm still playing BF2. Heck, we need a whole new genre as FPS is pretty common now. WOW is kicking hard but I'm sure people will tire in the next year or so at most. RTS is RTS. Give me a new quake or a killer FPS with modes that can appeal to the deathmatch junkie or the tactical team player - that would be nice. Too many games are either/or these days.

HeadRusch

02-14-07, 02:20 PM

Here's one reason why I'm not playing new games lately:
clipped from firingsquad:

The NPD Group has released the latest list of the top 10 best selling PC games in the US, this time for the week ending Feb. 3:

# 1 - World Of Warcraft: Burning Crusade Expansion Pack: Blizzard
# 2 - World Of Warcraft: Blizzard
# 3 - Vanguard: Saga Of Heroes: Sigil Games/Sony Online
# 4 - The Sims 2: Electronic Arts
# 5 - Deal or No Deal: GlobalStar/Take 2
# 6 - The Sims 2 Pets Expansion Pack: Electronic Arts
# 7 - Battlefield 2142: Electronic Arts
# 8 - Flight Simulator X Deluxe: Microsoft
# 9 - Age Of Empires III: Microsoft
# 10 - Age Of Empires 2 Gold: Microsoft

Only 1 of all these games applies to me :)
And I'm not willing to pay full price for BF2142.....I just started playing BF2 again....

ChrisFB

02-14-07, 03:07 PM

Only 1 of all these games applies to me :)

Your new video card is going to make the Sims 2 Pets Expansion Pack scream. Lucky man. ;)

HeadRusch

02-14-07, 04:28 PM

16AF, 8xAA + adaptive....I get a firm 20fps!

"So lifelike" is the phrase I keep using...

Scotty L

02-14-07, 08:40 PM

Here's IGN's release list

http://pc.ign.com/index/release.html

cohagen

02-15-07, 11:36 AM

Meanwhile CoD2 comes out on the PC and at 1280x720 runs at 20fps on everyones high-end rig, but it pushes 60fps on the Xbox360 at the same resolution....COD2 played great on my P4 3Ghz and X800XT. I played COD, COD UO, and finally COD2. It's a quake engine game and always ran smooth as silk on my modest hardware.

HeadRusch

02-15-07, 11:46 AM

When it was released a year ago people were shocked that it ran so poorly on most systems when running in Direct X 9 mode at highre resolutions with max detail.

If you compared the 360 version with the PC version at 720p, the textures were sharper on the PC, but otherwise the game ran significantly better on the 360 side of things....COD2 was not easy to get running at good framerates on a PC, tho I think your X800XT was considered one of the high-end cards from the past few yeras before the X19xx series was launched, no?

cohagen

02-15-07, 01:08 PM

Yes the x800xt was a $300 card I think around the time COD2 came out.

It's really hard to believe the xbox version of the game was so good considering CoD was born as a PC title. Has anyone ever had full res screens of PC and Xbox 360 to compare? Can you do screenshots on a 360?

HeadRusch

02-15-07, 02:22 PM

At the same resolution (1280x720) the textures on the 360 version were just a bit weaker...not night-and-day weaker, just a tad bit weaker......but the 360 version had double the framerate, it was crazy.

If you google search there are sites that did a comparison between the two. I think Cod2 ran with 2xaa, so on the PC side the AA was "sharper"....but the two were hardly what I'd call "distinguishable"....they were very, very similar...minus the performance differences.

kylebisme

02-15-07, 02:26 PM

You need a devkit and a non-retail version of the game to take screenshots, here is a post with a few from an old thread on the subject:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7972123&&#post7972123

The 360 obviously has no AA and straight biliniar filtering, and an FoV of about 62 compared to 80 on the PC version. It also has vsync but only double buffering with some really nasty framerate drops in HD modes. Stitching the 360 to a 480 line mode does wonders for the framerate, and also pleasantly adds 4xAA, but unfortunately no AF.

As for the PC version, When it came out I was running an old 2500+ overclocked to 2.2ghz, and x800xt-pe, and 1GB of ddr-400. With that setup I ran the game at 1064x600 with 4xAA and 8xAF with everything else cranked aside from leaving textures on 'auto', which looks far better than the 360 version in either mode; and those settings and thanks to triple buffering it also didn't have nearly the framerate issues of the HD mode on the 360.

cohagen

02-15-07, 03:21 PM

Dang you guys are good!

Anyway I get my 8800gtx rig today I think so I'm not fussin' what the consoles can and can't do anymore. ;)

SpeedyHTPC

02-15-07, 04:46 PM

What do you guys think DirectX10 and Crysis will do to the console gaming? Are the Xbox360/PS3 capable of DirectX10 like graphics already?

jedimastergrant

02-17-07, 05:20 PM

I don't know about crysis on consoles but there has been mixed messages coming from crytek about it.

I have not been playing many pc games lately either. Nothing really good since FEAR. Been playing a lot of 360 and PS3. I like the mouse and keyboard better but pc gamers out there should not be limiting themselves because there are a lot of great games that are exclusive to console or play better with a gamepad. Plus, if you have a nice big hdtv and a couch it is a great immersive experience.

I will always have a pc and want to play the latest graphics intensive fps games. I am a graphics whore. But, I am just pissed about the cost of keeping up. I probably won't be able to play crysis for at least a year or 2 after it comes out and by then there will be something comparable on consoles. Not better, but comparable. And probably only better if you spent 2K on your rig. My outrageously expensive $600 PS3 will play great games for the next 5 years, but my pc I built a year and a half ago can't even play crysis with the eye candy. Did I mention that I'm pissed?