View Full Version : DMR-eh50 not recording some scheduled shows
Phil Tomaskovic 12-11-06, 12:42 AM I've seen this problem before but it hadn't happened for awhile, but saw it again this weekend twice. Ebert & Roeper is on in Chicago Sat nite and then repeated Sun morning. I have schedules events for both. Sometimes it is delayed Sat nite due to a football game or other sport and the recording will be skipped since it is not on at the scheduled time. Sun morning is pretty constant at the scheduled 10:30 am time. So this morning I noticed it didn't record Sat nite but I think there was no delay. So this Sun morning, I saw it wasn't recording when it should, but when I turned on the set, it started recording immediately. So I missed half the show. Turned on at 10:45 and properties reflected only 15 minutes recorded,
So at least for this show, the recorder is not turning on to record when in standby mode, but recognizes it should be recording when I turn it on during the scheduled time.
Has anyone seen a fix for this?
Church AV Guy 12-11-06, 06:48 PM This problem has been discussed at length on this forum. Do a search and you will find lots of information on the subject.
Phil Tomaskovic 12-27-06, 10:50 AM Panasonic did send me a firmware update, but no luck. Weird thing this is only happening on Ebert & Roeper show, all my other scheduled events come in fine. And I have the first broadcast on Sat nite and the repeat on Sun morning both scheduled and both are skipped.
something specific to the tv guide entries for these?
There was a thread a while ago in which this problem occured specifically for the "Kelly & Regis" show on a daily basis (Panasonic E-85) in the Philly area. While many other posters could not reproduce the problem, a second Philly area poster did on his E-500. The solution was to do a hard reset of the units to wipe out the EPG and let the TVGOS rebuild from scratch. That action cleared up the problem with the R & K timeslot and the TVGOS behaves for a while.
Phil Tomaskovic 12-27-06, 02:41 PM Thanks, Does the hard reset do anything to saved recordings or just wipe out the schedule?
Just wipes out the schedule and the listings. Doesn't touch anything you have recorded onto the HDD.
Phil Tomaskovic 12-28-06, 12:42 PM Did the reset and the guide is loaded, thanks we'll see what happens this weekend.
I had several options for which guide to use, would that matter? it was saying to identify if certain station was on chs 72 & 120. regardless which I picked before, I saw ebert at the right time. so is this just to resolve what's on these 2 channels?
Church AV Guy 12-28-06, 01:46 PM Some zip codes have more than one service provider. I think it was just trying to use your answer to determine which you use so it can get your exact channel line-up.
Phil Tomaskovic 04-29-07, 10:41 AM Well, it started happening again for Ebert & Roeper (and the other scheduled recordings were fine). So I changed the E&R to just be manual recording without the tv guide. Set it to weekly, Sat pm 10:30-11:10 (to allow for sports making it run late). And the manual recording didn't start last nite either! I turned the power on around 11pm and then it started recording. So this bug is not tv guide based then?
Well, it's been a couple months since your last reset. Just back up a few posts here and do the hard reset again to wipe out the EPG and clear the units RAM and let TVGOS reload from scratch. I do mine every 6 months. The TVGOS will behave for "a while". How long a time period "a while" actually is varies.
And as always, if it is a recording you really want, turn on the recorder and leave it on for the evening. I do that every night and have never missed a recording in over a year.
Phil Tomaskovic 04-29-07, 02:35 PM Well, it's been a couple months since your last reset. Just back up a few posts here and do the hard reset again to wipe out the EPG and clear the units RAM and let TVGOS reload from scratch. I do mine every 6 months. The TVGOS will behave for "a while". How long a time period "a while" actually is varies.
And as always, if it is a recording you really want, turn on the recorder and leave it on for the evening. I do that every night and have never missed a recording in over a year.
Thanks, I plan to do the reset. I just thought it was funny that it was a manual setting vs thru the tv guide and it still didn't turn on. Also that it was manual and just the Ebert show has a problem.
I think I had left the recorder on but eventually it turned off on its own. Does that seem right, that it has some timeout setting? Maybe it just turned off after one of the other recordings finished?
EVERONWARD 04-29-07, 05:01 PM I have 2 EH 50's and one has been having the same problem you have described. I have tried everything and it was working good for about 2 months and now it is back to the same problems. I may end up getting a new different brand machine.
Rammitinski 04-29-07, 05:43 PM It might be awhile before any models coming out will include TVGOS. They're currently in the process of adapting it to receive the guide info digitally from a CBS channel.
And it appears it will be pretty slim pickin's for HDD models, at least for the near future.
The forthcoming Philips and Polaroid models don't list TVGOS in their pre-release specs.
Phil Tomaskovic 05-01-07, 02:33 AM It might be awhile before any models coming out will include TVGOS. They're currently in the process of adapting it to receive the guide info digitally from a CBS channel.
And it appears it will be pretty slim pickin's for HDD models, at least for the near future.
The forthcoming Philips and Polaroid models don't list TVGOS in their pre-release specs.
Are these problems unique to the EH50? I bought a 75 vcr/dvd when CC was closing them out but it isn't in big usage yet. Has anyone heard of similar problems with it?
Surprising how much the UI changed between them. Some I like, some I don't. Wonder how different the Guide software is?
Rammitinski 05-01-07, 02:48 AM Well, I have the EH75 set up to record from Dish, so the guide isn't filled in (only does for cable and Direct).
I believe it has the 9th generation TVGOS. I briefly had a Panasonic plasma that also had it, and I loved it. I thought it was much improved over the last gen guide.
I've had the EH75 for over a month, and haven't had any problems with missed recordings so far. It's been performing fine.
My older E85 has never had any problems at all.
nameless33 05-02-07, 02:36 AM I've seen this problem a few times on my EH50. Thing works fine most of the time. I suspect it's more to do with the station or cable network. It wouldn't wake up and record the super bowl the year before last, and also the NCAA basketball final four this year. It's a messed up system, but I'm happy it works most of the time. I don't think there's any way to make it foolproof except to babysit it.
Phil Tomaskovic 05-02-07, 09:05 AM What throws me is why the manual recording didn't wake up. I would think that shouldn't have anything to do with the station.
nameless33 05-10-07, 08:10 AM What throws me is why the manual recording didn't wake up. I would think that shouldn't have anything to do with the station.
I could be wrong, but I think it's all based on the VCR+ code system, even if you set it manually. I recall people theorized it was still downloading program information even if you set it to not display/use the EPG. At least that would explain some of it's weirdness.
I've seen this problem a few times on my EH50. Thing works fine most of the time. I suspect it's more to do with the station or cable network. It wouldn't wake up and record the super bowl the year before last, and also the NCAA basketball final four this year. It's a messed up system, but I'm happy it works most of the time. I don't think there's any way to make it foolproof except to babysit it.There is a way to make it foolproof, leave the unit on for the evenings recordings. If the unit is on, it won't miss. I have an E-85 with a terrible track record of missing recordings during primetime if it is off. For over a year I have made it a practice of turning on the unit for the evenings recordings -- have not missed a single scheduled record. The auto-off timer in the E-85 is set for 2 hrs so if I forget to turn it off, it does so itself and is able to get the next days worth of listings.
EVERONWARD 05-11-07, 01:28 PM I am having the same problem with one of my EH 50's. It doesn't wake up to record. And the problem only seems to be with recording anything on CBS.
I think someone mentioned this problem with only one station awhile ago. What was the solution to get the problem fixed? I do not use the TV Guide + code.
How do you reset the unit?
Thanks
Tom
L David Matheny 05-12-07, 04:41 PM I am having the same problem with one of my EH 50's. It doesn't wake up to record. And the problem only seems to be with recording anything on CBS.
I think someone mentioned this problem with only one station awhile ago. What was the solution to get the problem fixed? I do not use the TV Guide + code.
How do you reset the unit?
Thanks
Tom
I've had the problem with my EH50 even after various firmware updates. It never misses the news at noon or eleven, but it often misses shows scheduled during prime time. I'm pretty sure it's a firmware bug that keeps the unit from noticing that it needs to start a recording while it is busy downloading guide data. As already noted, you can circumvent the problem by leaving the unit on. I think it would also not occur if the TV Guide On Screen system was disabled by selecting "Set Channels Automatically" during setup. Other than the lack of an ATSC tuner, this bug is by far the worst problem with the EH50.
I record 3 min. on PBS every night to make sure its on PBS and i get the guide but it misses regularly. On another forum i read that if you are watching a program and hit return to stop it, but shut it down with the play button flashing on the front of the unit it will miss the next recording. Since then every time i can remember i hit the return button , i then hit stop button and it stops flashing.
Does it work , well every time i check it did bit that might have been luck and i still forget to do it most of the time. Joe
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