View Full Version : so is disney going to release all on blu ray?


jocktheglide
12-12-06, 06:28 PM
So is disney going to re-release their movies on blu ray now? Just curious if so I plan to dump all my disney stuff while they worth 5 dollars/disc at least :p i remember back in the day if you held a disney VHS tape such as cinderall it was worth well over 100 dollars easy, but now DVD came along and now they are worth squat then DVD was worth something like 60 dollars, but not anymore if disney keeps re-re-re-re release the movies.

spwolf
12-12-06, 06:35 PM
yes, i would say there is 99.99% chance of them doing so.. I think they are waiting for more BD players to be available so they can get more sales...

bboisvert
12-12-06, 06:42 PM
If you're willing to dump the titles at even a rumor of eventual re-release, why do you have them in the first place?

Disney is wacky. The Jungle Book has been OOP for years, even during the theatrical and video release of Jungle Book 2, when they could seemingly sell like pancakes. Yet Peter Pan is about to get its 3rd (!) DVD reissue.


Disney will likely release most/all of their major titles on BD, assuming the format takes off (which is definitely an open question right now for both formats). However, that release schedule could literally take over a decade. If you're willing to wait that long, then I'd say definitely sell off your titles.

bferr1
12-12-06, 06:52 PM
I know that as soon as I break down and get the extended edition of Chronicles of Narnia on DVD, they'll announce the BD version. :rolleyes:

DaveFi
12-12-06, 07:02 PM
First they actually need to release something someone wants to buy.

Petra
12-12-06, 07:05 PM
so is disney going to release all on blu ray?

damn right they are :p

bboisvert
12-12-06, 07:10 PM
First they actually need to release something someone wants to buy.

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/39/49/1496820dd7a0007c8225f010._AA207_.L.jpg

:confused:

isaidme
12-12-06, 07:15 PM
"First they actually need to release something someone wants to buy."

This could'nt be more true, and if they are waiting for more Blu-Ray players to be in more homes then they have it ass backwards. There needs to be more movies available first, this is where they come in, then more people would be interested in blu-ray players. It seems they are doing everything they can as well as a few others to stunt blu-rays growth. I cant understand what their definition of supporing is.

fa8362
12-12-06, 07:19 PM
Disney is always slow to release their classics. I would hold on to your DVDs for a couple of years.

isaidme
12-12-06, 07:27 PM
Annapolis, who wants that? The Cars Blu-Ray should have came out when the DVD did and should have been advertised on tv as such: "Avaliable on DVD and Blu-Ray" same goes for Pirates.

isaidme
12-12-06, 07:30 PM
Hell if Disney waits a couple of years to release their "classics" then there might not be a Blu-Ray to release it on. Its not going to make them anymore money to wait.

zzap64
12-12-06, 07:32 PM
Pirates of the Caribbean is very likely to be released in 2007.

Remember how slooooow Disney was to release their movies on DVD. It took many years. It seems like Disney feel their movies are just too good to release at all.

BTBuck1
12-12-06, 07:52 PM
I'm pretty stokked on Enemy Of the state and Gone in 60 seconds so far.

alfbinet
12-13-06, 12:47 AM
yes, i would say there is 99.99% chance of them doing so.. I think they are waiting for more BD players to be available so they can get more sales...

How many more players do they want available? Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, PS3, and soon to be Pioneer. First they actually have to sell the players, especially that PS3.

joerod
12-13-06, 01:10 AM
Pirates baby!!!

DonoMan
12-13-06, 10:14 AM
Ghibli films, damnit! Porco Rosso and Spirited Away are my top two as far as BD releases (Porco Rosso because it's my favorite Ghibli film and Spirited Away because the DVD releases all suck)

fa8362
12-13-06, 10:47 AM
Hell if Disney waits a couple of years to release their "classics" then there might not be a Blu-Ray to release it on. Its not going to make them anymore money to wait.

I doubt it will make them any money to release now, in fact, they'll probably lose money. All the costs of producing and distributing the titles need to be paid back. I doubt there are enough bd players in people's homes to pay back those costs. Regardless, Disney waited during the introductions of VHS, Laserdisc, and DVD. As such, I doubt they'll diverge from what they've done before. They'll release stuff, but not their classics.

SonnyC79
12-13-06, 10:53 AM
I want me some Pirates and some Narnia, too! I held off on buying the 4 disc Narnia box set that came out yesterday because of the Bluray ad that shows Narnia as "coming soon." Hopefully, we will hear of something at CES.

methos75
12-13-06, 10:56 AM
I really don't understand some of the decisions being made by studios like Fox and Disney, release the big stuff now, that is the main edge that HD-DVD has because Unversal is very proactive in getting big AAA and new releases out on HD-DVD now.

sweetmisery
12-13-06, 11:47 AM
Bring in the Disney cartoons. Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King, Little Mermaid, etc... my fiance and I will be happy next year!

briandnewman
12-14-06, 10:15 AM
Will those cartoons really be worth it in HD? They do lack fine detail (ie hair, outdoor sceens, fire, etc) and have soild colors especially the old ones like Snow White and Cinerella. I really don't see how PQ can be that improved making them must haves on Blu Ray. Maybe if I see one I might change my mind.

Fettastic
12-14-06, 10:29 AM
I'm just wondering how much better 2D animated titles are going to look in HD. They're line drawing, how much more detail/depth are we going to get? I imagine the colors will be slightly better and no artifacts, but I think 2D animation is pretty easy to compress anyway so I don't think there are many.

Beauty and the Beast is a huge exception because they squished 3 seperate version2 on the movie on one disc (4 1/2 hours!), plus features. They didn't want to take the risk of problems with seamless branching and it really hurt the PQ. So I'm glad to hear that will be one of the first out of the gate.

Fettastic
12-14-06, 10:31 AM
I want me some Pirates and some Narnia, too! I held off on buying the 4 disc Narnia box set that came out yesterday because of the Bluray ad that shows Narnia as "coming soon." Hopefully, we will hear of something at CES.

I'm probably going to get the 4-disc set anyway for the extended version and the features.

wolfyncsu7
12-14-06, 10:37 AM
I'm just wondering how much better 2D animated titles are going to look in HD. They're line drawing, how much more detail/depth are we going to get? I imagine the colors will be slightly better and no artifacts, but I think 2D animation is pretty easy to compress anyway so I don't think there are many.

Have you guys seen the Aladdin demo on the Pioneer Elite Blu-ray player? I saw it at Tweeter being displayed on an FDH1 1080p plasma (not sure if I got the model right) and it sure looked great. It's been a while since I've see the dvd version, but it seemed to look quite a bit better. The colors WERE much more vibrant and the lines and 2D planes stood out much better. I'm guessing if you add a lossless soundtrack to something like this and alot of people will be sold on the improvements.

forumreader
12-14-06, 10:37 AM
I'm just wondering how much better 2D animated titles are going to look in HD. They're line drawing, how much more detail/depth are we going to get? I imagine the colors will be slightly better and no artifacts, but I think 2D animation is pretty easy to compress anyway so I don't think there are many.

There is still going to be a pretty big difference. There was a very short clip (like 5-7 seconds) at the Oscars last year for Howl's Moving Castle that was presented in HD when the movie was up for an award, and it look amazing. The colors will/should pop quite a bit more.

Fettastic
12-14-06, 10:49 AM
Well alright, I'm sold. I'll sell my Disney DVD collection tomorrow. I could certainly use the money.

JosephShaw
12-14-06, 12:07 PM
I'm just wondering how much better 2D animated titles are going to look in HD. They're line drawing, how much more detail/depth are we going to get? I imagine the colors will be slightly better and no artifacts, but I think 2D animation is pretty easy to compress anyway so I don't think there are many.

Most of the recent 2d stuff has been done with the aid of computers as well, so I wouldn't say it won't help. I'd imagine only the earliest stuff like Sleeping Beauty and such wouldn't benefit

bboisvert
12-14-06, 12:19 PM
I'd imagine only the earliest stuff like Sleeping Beauty and such wouldn't benefit

Sleeping Beauty was filmed in 35mm Technirama and later presented in Super Technirama 70mm with six-track sound.

It would look crazy-good in HD.

inca
12-14-06, 12:41 PM
Sleeping Beauty was filmed in 35mm Technirama and later presented in Super Technirama 70mm with six-track sound.

It would look crazy-good in HD.

I understand how it was filmed and all, but I just don't understand how it will benefit the older cartoons other then more vibrant colors? I mean its not like there are pores in the cartoons faces, no strands of hair that are sticking out. There will not be millions of individual blades of grass all sharply defined, ect... . I am not saying that there will not be any improvement, I'm just saying that it will not be like watching LOTR on a DVD vs HD. (I watched LOTR TT on TNT the other night and MY GOD!! That was probably one of the best broadcast HD movies that I have seen, it was intoxicating, and yes, it blew away the upconverted image of the DVD, BY FAR!!)

JosephShaw
12-14-06, 01:40 PM
Sleeping Beauty was filmed in 35mm Technirama and later presented in Super Technirama 70mm with six-track sound.

It would look crazy-good in HD.

Yeah, I meantto say Snow White. I always confuse those two, but they're not exactly my favorites either.

foots
04-09-07, 01:43 PM
Have you guys seen the Aladdin demo on the Pioneer Elite Blu-ray player? I saw it at Tweeter being displayed on an FDH1 1080p plasma (not sure if I got the model right) and it sure looked great. It's been a while since I've see the dvd version, but it seemed to look quite a bit better. The colors WERE much more vibrant and the lines and 2D planes stood out much better. I'm guessing if you add a lossless soundtrack to something like this and alot of people will be sold on the improvements.


I finally saw this today at lunch at BB. I must say it was very impressive. I'll admit the animated classics weren't high on my list of BD wants but after seeing the demo I'm really looking forward to seeing them again on BD.

SyHD
04-09-07, 01:52 PM
I finally saw this today at lunch at BB. I must say it was very impressive. I'll admit the animated classics weren't high on my list of BD wants but after seeing the demo I'm really looking forward to seeing them again on BD.

Well if Aladdin was impressive, I can't imagine what The Lion King and The Beauty and Beast will look like. IMHO, those two titles were the most impressive 2D Disney animations ever.

raven69david
04-13-07, 12:40 AM
These are the first titles slated for release:

The Little Mermaid
Beauty & The Beast
Aladdin
Lion King
Monsters, Inc.
Finding Nemo

fitprod
04-13-07, 01:07 AM
These are the first titles slated for release:

Per what? The promo on DVD's?

Cars is coming first.

fitprod

Dan Hitchman
04-13-07, 02:10 AM
Most of the classics were HAND PAINTED CELS. Yes, that's right, actual artists using their hands... to do pain staking, laborious work. No anticeptic CGI junk here!

You're damn right HD will make these things look AWESOME. The background plates for Bambi and Fantasia, for example, are richly detailed with fine brush stroke work. And the colors, my God, the colors! They were treated like moving pieces of art. Not dumbed down, by the numbers, stamped and pressed cookie cutter computer work.

Come on, Disney!! BRING BACK 2D HAND ANIMATION!!!

Dan

JThree
04-13-07, 07:59 AM
They are - in 2009. Of course I think computers do most of the actual coloring these days. I doubt they'll ever get back to doing one completely by hand. But this is great news for those of us who hated the CG only edict handed down at Disney a few years ago.

http://www.animated-news.com/2007/frog-princess-to-take-throne-in-2009/

Jiffylush
04-13-07, 09:33 AM
Most of the classics were HAND PAINTED CELS. Yes, that's right, actual artists using their hands... to do pain staking, laborious work. No anticeptic CGI junk here!

You're damn right HD will make these things look AWESOME. The background plates for Bambi and Fantasia, for example, are richly detailed with fine brush stroke work. And the colors, my God, the colors! They were treated like moving pieces of art. Not dumbed down, by the numbers, stamped and pressed cookie cutter computer work.

Come on, Disney!! BRING BACK 2D HAND ANIMATION!!!

Dan

Lilo and Stitch also used beautiful hand painted backgrounds (except for the space parts I assume).

I totally agree with you about making more movies this way.

Neo1965
04-13-07, 09:55 AM
I guess the ones done with hand painted cels can be interesting, but only if they remaster them in digital with high enough resolution to make a difference. Often, they might just work with an existing digital master, that would be a shame.

But if there was a new digital remaster of their catalog animation, that is going to be some of the most valuable animation content available to consumers that the world has ever seen, since at that resolution, they would pretty much be almost-exact replication frame by frame works of art.

Bear in mind : there are people shelling out a lot of money even for individual prints on transparencies of each cel from any of those old classics.

I'm not saying they won't do it, but I'll believe it when I see it.

plasmalover
04-13-07, 12:40 PM
The one I want the most is Little Nemo, that is my favorite Disney movie of all time.

Rakesh.S
04-13-07, 12:42 PM
beauty and the beast was something else....when they played it on ABC-HD. Stunning wouldn't begin to describe it.

Jeff Lampert
04-13-07, 01:29 PM
Didn't Disney release The Little Mermaid in the past year on DVD? It sold alot, IIRC, a couple of million copies I think. Disney will wait to release their animated classics like TLM, Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if they waited 5 years. They want to sell in the millions when they release it.

seanbryan
04-13-07, 06:33 PM
Looking forward to Ratatouille

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/ratatouilleparishuge.jpg