View Full Version : Initial impression - Harmony 550
Schteevie 12-14-06, 01:55 AM It is a nice sleak remote, and for the small cost it seems to be the way to go.
Quick question - I would love to be able to customize the "picture" and "sound" buttons... but they are not re-mappable are they...
complaints:
I can't say I love the stupid "wizard" style set-up interface
- I sure wish it was more "advanced" or at least had a more advanced option...
I had a hell of a time figuring out that I needed to increase the "repeater" to get my Pioneer 4360 to switch inputs when I changed activities... It wouldn't change to my cable box (SA 8300HD)input from the DVD player (OPPO 971H) because the TV was too busy syncing after changing res from the DVD player, and would miss the input comand...
It feels like there is a small motion sensor/ball bearing in it, but it doesn't light up when I pick it up, so I guess there isn't one...?
more later - but I needed to post something after spending almost 2 hours controlling my frustration and keeping from smashing it, while reprogramming it again and again... before FINALLY figuring out the issue. :mad: :rolleyes: :p
rodeoclown 12-14-06, 10:12 AM Awesome...thanks for the feedback...I am considering this model as well.
What other Harmony remotes if any did you consider before plopping down for the 550?
Doug_Eldred 12-14-06, 10:18 AM I, too, am somewhat underwhelmed. I have yet to get it to work with my Mac Mini, though it claims to recognize the model number. It does fine with the Comcast STB, HP plasma TV, Sony DVD player, and Logitech Z-5450 speakers, though.
Mine seems to sense motion after an overnight lull, and turns the backlight on, but doesn't do so thereafter, so there must be some kind of a timer involved.
For $99 I think I expected more, but that said as long as it lets me do 90% of what I want to do with one control I guess I'm satisfied, if not ecstatic. There's no way I'm going to pay half the cost of the TV for a fancier remote!
Doug
Schteevie 12-14-06, 11:48 AM Hey - I just noticed the back light does turn on when picking it up after an over night lull... weird.
Anyway - to answer the questions - the 550 really is the best laid out remote with the most customization, yet clean look that I could find.
None of the fancy roundy ones with rediculous colour displays appealed to me.
I got mine from DELL when they had it on sale fo $99 - but even at full price it is less then half the cost of the "ipod" priced high end models - that don't have any fundamental differences.
Regarding the mac - I suggest you play with the delay and repeater functions - it should work, maybe you just need to get the IR signal isolated.
Again - my only real complaint is the stupid set-up wizard - if it were more advanced, I would have likely figured out my problem a lot sooner.
for those looking to compare the remores - this is a great thread:
harmony comparison thread (http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rc-harmony/thread.cgi?4251)
rosh400 12-14-06, 12:57 PM I just bought the 670. It's available for $110 from Buy.com with google checkout. I really like the button layout. It is excellent for DVR control and even as the 30 second skip for my comcast STB. I share the OP's criticism about lack of advanced controls. I wish I could map picture and sound right to the video and audio setup menu on my Sony HDTV. It would be great if logitech could add that capability.
dtviewer 12-14-06, 01:07 PM Schteevie-I feel your frustration with the set-up wizard. But there is an answer!!! After you log in, exit out of the wizard immediatly! You dont have to use the wizard for programing! Just go to your login/member page and make all your changes there. It is SO much easier than using the wizard. Trust me, I suffered just like you before finding this out. Heres the link without the wizard- sign in and program.
members.harmonyremote.com
Doug, dont settle for 90%. This remote WILL do 100%. If need be, call Harmonies help desk-they are terrific. They'll get you up and running. And any other questions ask on here-someone will have some advice.
After buying my first harmony (have 3 now!) I have bought them for a lot of family and friends. Now I dont get the calls all the time like "how do I set my TV for the dvd again?"
Schteevie 12-14-06, 01:45 PM Schteevie-I feel your frustration with the set-up wizard. But there is an answer!!! After you log in, exit out of the wizard immediatly! You dont have to use the wizard for programing! Just go to your login/member page and make all your changes there. It is SO much easier than using the wizard. Trust me, I suffered just like you before finding this out. Heres the link without the wizard- sign in and program.
members.harmonyremote.com
THANK YOU! :eek: :D
THAT is a lot easier to deal with.
I HATE the stupid questions the wizard asks me to try to "guess" what my problem is, when I know EXACTLY what the problem is but can't get to the option to edit it.
Anyway - I also did some research regarding the 550 motion sensor - unlike the sensors on the high end harmonys, it seems it resets itself after it is activated, and doesn't work again until the remote has been un used for 2 hours.
There is no way that I can find to edit this to a shorter time - oh well.
At this point, the remote is doing everything I want!
It only took about 2 hours and a lot of hair pulling last night to get it that way :rolleyes: ;) :p
golferadam 12-14-06, 02:28 PM I have had the Harmony 550 for about 6 months now. I like the fact that it can control everything. However, I have had to face the harsh reality that I prefer the softer buttons of the Adelphia remote that came with my Motorola 6412. It just seems like those buttons are easier to press than the ones on the 550. Looking at the different Harmony models it seems they all have hard buttons. Is this the preferred feel for a remote?
Doug_Eldred 12-14-06, 02:31 PM As a reviewer somewhere (cnet?) said, I think the buttons are a little small, even for someone like me with smallish fingers, and too close to the end, making it almost a two-hand job to change channels. But that's a minor quibble.
Schteevie 12-14-06, 02:31 PM I have had the Harmony 550 for about 6 months now. I like the fact that it can control everything. However, I have had to face the harsh reality that I prefer the softer buttons of the Adelphia remote that came with my Motorola 6412. It just seems like those buttons are easier to press than the ones on the 550. Looking at the different Harmony models it seems they all have hard buttons. Is this the preferred feel for a remote?
I am confused - you mean you prefer harder buttons right?
The 550 has soft buttons - and that is one of my complaints about it...
but I am dealing with it.
golferadam 12-14-06, 02:38 PM I am confused - you mean you prefer harder buttons right?
The 550 has soft buttons - and that is one of my complaints about it...
but I am dealing with it.
I don't think I explained it well. I prefer the buttons of the Adelphia remote. They are softer and easier to press.
I agree that the number keys on the 550 are soft, button the channel up/down, volume up/down, LCD buttons, and OK/directional buttons are overly stiff. For example, when I push one of the above mention buttons on the 550 there is a small clicking noise. I don't mind the noise but it's indicative that depressing the button is not a fluid motion the way it is on the Adelphia remote.
Here is a picture. The buttons I have circled are the ones I think are too hard. Unfortunately those are the main ones I use.
Schteevie 12-14-06, 02:52 PM I don't think I explained it well. I prefer the buttons of the Adelphia remote. They are softer and easier to press.
I agree that the number keys on the 550 are soft, button the channel up/down, volume up/down, LCD buttons, and OK/directional buttons are overly stiff. For example, when I push one of the above mention buttons on the 550 there is a small clicking noise. I don't mind the noise but it's indicative that depressing the button is not a fluid motion the way it is on the Adelphia remote.
Here is a picture. The buttons I have circled are the ones I think are too hard. Unfortunately those are the main ones I use.
interesting - Those are the buttons I like on the 550.
I actually like the feed back of the stiff buttons - on/off.
The feed back of the soft buttons is less clear in terms of being certain it has engaged...
I don't like any soft buttons on remotes or cell phones.
I ended up getting a 550 from Dell for $74. Should be a nice replacement for my MX-500. The wife loved that remote, so she should be happy with the 550 too :)
I did prefer the Tivo-like layout of the 670, but the 550 looks cooler and seems to have a higher-resolution screen or at least a smaller text size. That, and I like the rubber-coated underside.
Thanks for all the information!
Can you define more than one "page" of activities (i.e. more than 4) on the 550? Documentation on the 550 is extremely scarce online.
Can you define more than one "page" of activities (i.e. more than 4) on the 550? Documentation on the 550 is extremely scarce online.
Yes - many more, though I can't recall if it was somewhere in the nature of 15 or 255 -- I believe devices are limited to somewhere around 15 and activities are 255. In any event, well more than 4.
Doug_Eldred 01-05-07, 12:05 PM There's a detailed writeup on how to get a Harmony to fully emulate an Apple Remote on http://www.123macmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10117. I haven't tried it yet, but plan to do so.
bierboy 01-05-07, 01:08 PM ...I did prefer the Tivo-like layout of the 670, but the 550 looks cooler and seems to have a higher-resolution screen or at least a smaller text size. That, and I like the rubber-coated underside....I just picked up the 550 as a replacement for my dying 659. I had considered the 670, but was able to get this one much cheaper. It's taking some getting used to (since the Menu and Guide buttons are opposite what they were on the 659). And I thought I wouldn't like the shape, but I'm getting used to it. And, yes, the rubber-coated bottom is nice. Definitely like the location of the transport buttons (since I have a TiVo S3), and there are certainly many more buttons to use, too.
BostonGirl 01-05-07, 05:08 PM I have to say I love this remote. I have an old harmony, back before logitech was making them and they came straight from harmony out of canada. So I was looking for a new one picked this 550 up and it's great. Thanks for the member login site, I forgot where to get into the "normal" menu. Also glad my remote isn't the only one whos light turns on weird..lol..Sometimes it turns on by itself and other times if i hit the coffee table. Almost took it back. :rolleyes:
peralta151 02-29-08, 11:52 PM amazon.com has them for $74.19.
bd_showtime 04-12-08, 01:47 PM Picked one up from PC Richard and Son for 49.97 shipped.
great price on a great remote.
fistofsouth 04-12-08, 08:31 PM Picked one up from PC Richard and Son for 49.97 shipped.
great price on a great remote.
I thought about doing that, but read BAD things about PC Richard and Son. If you actually get a new 550 in a sealed box and in a reasonable amount of time with no added fees PLEASE report that in this thread.
kshane9 04-18-08, 08:42 AM I thought about doing that, but read BAD things about PC Richard and Son. If you actually get a new 550 in a sealed box and in a reasonable amount of time with no added fees PLEASE report that in this thread.
I ordered mine on Monday and it arrived on Thursday. No hidden fee's.
PatrickB101 04-18-08, 09:36 AM i have had the remote for about 4-5 months now. (maybe longer) I have a 880 as well i perfer this remote to that one even though it is less impressive to visitors I like the thinness to it the button feels. I have no other experiences with other competitors. I am also using a Next Generation Home Products Remote RF extender inside of the harmony 550. works great!
fistofsouth 04-18-08, 09:06 PM I ordered mine on Monday and it arrived on Thursday. No hidden fee's.
Very nice. Most of the bad things I read came from people using their B&M store so perhaps their website is less problematic. Thanks for the input.
PannyMann 04-20-08, 10:53 AM I thought about doing that, but read BAD things about PC Richard and Son. If you actually get a new 550 in a sealed box and in a reasonable amount of time with no added fees PLEASE report that in this thread.
$49.99 from PC Richard, free shipping got here in 3 days. Don't know
what bad things U heard about them but I had a great experience
buying my Panny 50" plazma from them as well.
Steve Schauer 04-22-08, 10:31 AM I ordered a 550 from PC Richard on Sunday for $49.99 including UPS ground shipping.
Somehow (some sort of PEBKAC issue) I didn't type in the shipping address correctly. I got an email about 20 minutes later asking me to call about a problem on my order. I called and talked to an American human (on Sunday!), gave her the correct address, and Monday morning I got the UPS tracking info.
I'm impressed.
cw_racefan 04-23-08, 09:01 AM Just looking for opinions here, I have about a 3 year old 676 that is in need of replacement and was wondering about this 550. Is this a step down from the 676, or simply a different form factor with the same capabilities? The $50 price from PC Richard is very attractive.
aukwood 04-24-08, 06:12 PM The 550 sounds good-I think I'm going to get one from the pc richard guys. Some of my components are located in front, some to the rear, a projector in the middle. I'm guessing either I could wave the remote around or I would need some sort of repeater to control them all. Any thoughts?
nyboy42 04-27-08, 08:09 PM i have had the harmony 550 remote for a little over a year now. So far it has done a good job. BUT, today i looked at the screen on my remote and noticed that there are sort of ink spots on the LCD screen. No menu or text is being displayed. I have no idea how this happened. The remote was not physically damaged in anyway. There are no cracks at all but yet the LCD has stop functioning. Being that this is a very expensive remote, what are my options? Is this a common issue with the 550? please advise,
Give logitech a call, I spose.
On the PC Richard & Son site, their product page (http://www.pcrichard.com/catalog/product.jsp?modelNo=HARMONY550) says "SALE PRICE ONLY VALID WITH PURCHASE OF TV", I guess that isn't being enforced?
aukwood 05-08-08, 09:35 PM No, it goes thru at check out $50/free ship/no problems. Got one a couple of days ago and it's pretty cool to program online, takes some thought to decide about various components' functions but the software is user friendly so am confident I'll be able to get the commands perfected. Also picked up a Next Gen IR/RF extender as per other avs members (I think it was tiger) so life might be good!
buckrogers71 05-11-08, 08:56 PM I looked at the statement as well then came here. Lucky I did or I would have spent 10.00 more on ebay.
just worked for me. I got charged the 7% sales tax b/c they have stores in NJ:mad:
djnsmith7 05-25-08, 05:22 PM You can get a free 550 at BB right now when you purchase a display for $999 or more on their referenced list.
Nino1919 06-02-08, 01:18 AM i got bestbuy to pricematch PC Richards price of $50. Awesome price.
You can get a free 550 at BB right now when you purchase a display for $999 or more on their referenced list.
I should have done that since I'm going to get a 550 anyway. I purchased the Samsung 46A650 LCD at a local BB and the remote free offer is only for online purchases. Ah well. :o
I don't see the 550 on PC Richards site :confused: Where's the cheapest to purchase it from these days?
Tigerdirect has it for $49.99 + shipping (and plus tax in a few states). Amazon has it for $56.28 shipped. Just ordered mine :)
SiouxJuggernaut 06-13-08, 08:00 PM So I am having a couple problems with my 550 that I am hoping someone can help me out with.
1. For some reason it always defaults my A/V receiver to "Variety/Sports" at the very end. Even after I added in changing to "Movie", it goes to movie, and then at the end makes a final change to "Variety/Sports".
2. I have a TV and Projector in the living room to save on Projo bulb life, but half the time when i use the command for tv on my tv, it ALSO turns on the projector even though that command is not programmed in. Any ideas?
Other than these two things I love the remote, just a little frustrating.
I thought about doing that, but read BAD things about PC Richard and Son. If you actually get a new 550 in a sealed box and in a reasonable amount of time with no added fees PLEASE report that in this thread.
My parents bought me one and it shipped the day after they ordered, arriving today for the exact amount listed (49.something).
Great remote so far! I wish I could set it up to some sort of IR->RF thing for my dish receiver downstairs that is set for the tv upstairs haha.
buckrogers71 07-02-08, 09:43 PM So I am having a couple problems with my 550 that I am hoping someone can help me out with.
1. For some reason it always defaults my A/V receiver to "Variety/Sports" at the very end. Even after I added in changing to "Movie", it goes to movie, and then at the end makes a final change to "Variety/Sports".
2. I have a TV and Projector in the living room to save on Projo bulb life, but half the time when i use the command for tv on my tv, it ALSO turns on the projector even though that command is not programmed in. Any ideas?
Other than these two things I love the remote, just a little frustrating.
I had a similar problem w/ my stereo and tv. The wife sometimes would rather watch tv w/ out the surround sound...yeah go figure:confused:
So I called Logitech and they said just program it for the tv and cable to go on and no stereo. I had to rename it "quiet" tv. So maybe if you just programed the remote in a similar fashion, it might work.
8IronBob 07-05-08, 07:44 PM Just pulled the trigger on Amazon for one of these bad boys, after looking it over at BB earlier on this afternoon. Seems like it should be a pretty good remote once I learn all that it can do. Should be a pretty good start. Hopefully it's updated enough for today's equipment, as opposed to the stuff from two years ago when this was launched. That will be a challenge...
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