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madkaw
01-24-08, 09:15 AM
DRHANKZ, I wanted to migrate my HMG to a secondary hard drive. I cannot get the player to pick up "My Documents" from anything other than the C:, can you help me out. I replaced the target to point to it the secondary drive but the player keeps reverting back to what ever is on the C:

drhankz
01-24-08, 09:20 AM
DRHANKZ, I wanted to migrate my HMG to a secondary hard drive. I cannot get the player to pick up "My Documents" from anything other than the C:, can you help me out. I replaced the target to point to it the secondary drive but the player keeps reverting back to what ever is on the C:

I had the same problem. I think it is a Limitation of WMP-11.

I switched to another Media Server Application - TVERSITY (http://www.tversity.com/home)

It is FREE and solved my HMG problem here.

HTMan34
01-24-08, 11:09 AM
DRHANKZ, I wanted to migrate my HMG to a secondary hard drive. I cannot get the player to pick up "My Documents" from anything other than the C:, can you help me out. I replaced the target to point to it the secondary drive but the player keeps reverting back to what ever is on the C:

In WMP 11, you should be able to change the drive and directory within the "Library/Monitor Folders" tab option. If you manually add the directory on a different drive it should work, provided there is some form of media in that directory...I am trying it right now and will post results in a few minutes.

HTMan34
01-24-08, 11:41 AM
In WMP 11, you should be able to change the drive and directory within the "Library/Monitor Folders" tab option. If you manually add the directory on a different drive it should work, provided there is some form of media in that directory...I am trying it right now and will post results in a few minutes.

Figured it out...I have 2 partitions on my hard drive. I created another folder on the second partition and added some pics to it. Manually added it to the list of monitored folders in WMP 11 in the Library tab. Was able to see the folder in the HMG. Don't try pointintg the My Documents folder to somewhere else, it will not work. It is set to the default directory when Windows is first installed and saved in the registry...instead just create a new folder on the drive you want the media to be saved to and then add the media into that folder. Then make sure you add that new directory to the monitored folders list in WMP in the Library section. All should be good.

madkaw
01-24-08, 12:30 PM
I will try when I get home, thanks for the help guys.

HTMan34
01-24-08, 03:21 PM
I will try when I get home, thanks for the help guys.

No problem...

HTMan34
01-29-08, 10:54 AM
Man, can't believe how quiet this thread has been the last few days. Guess everyone is enjoying watching BD's on their HD1's and patiently waiting for the new Elite players.

drhankz
01-29-08, 01:41 PM
Man, can't believe how quiet this thread has been the last few days. Guess everyone is enjoying watching BD's on their HD1's and patiently waiting for the new Elite players.

HAY MAN - what other choice do we have ;)

It works 100% and there is nothing else to BUY.

http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

HTMan34
01-29-08, 02:25 PM
HAY MAN - what other choice do we have ;)

It works 100% and there is nothing else to BUY.

http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

You got that right!

zuulboy
01-29-08, 04:41 PM
I had the same problem. I think it is a Limitation of WMP-11.

I switched to another Media Server Application - TVERSITY (http://www.tversity.com/home)

It is FREE and solved my HMG problem here.
As I've posted before, I lost my HMG since moving to Windows Vista. I tried TVERSITY but I must not be setting it up correctly because HMG still doesn't work. Any special tips to setting it up? I indicated which folders have my files, but HMG is still grayed out on my BDP-HD1. Maybe HMG doesn't work if your computer has a main logon and a guest? I'm just guessing. I keep hoping a new firmware update fixes the problem, but it never does.

drhankz
01-29-08, 04:47 PM
As I've posted before, I lost my HMG since moving to Windows Vista. I tried TVERSITY but I must not be setting it up correctly because HMG still doesn't work. Any special tips to setting it up? I indicated which folders have my files, but HMG is still grayed out on my BDP-HD1. Maybe HMG doesn't work if your computer has a main logon and a guest? I'm just guessing. I keep hoping a new firmware update fixes the problem, but it never does.

I am clueless about Vista.

I know Vista tries to block everything.

Some others here might be of more help.
I assume you have tried to open your Vista
Firewall settings to ALLOW Tversity - if Vista
even has such a left over concept from XP.

rich121
01-29-08, 05:21 PM
I'm staying with XP for awhile longer.. maybe VISTA will get updated?

madkaw
01-29-08, 06:09 PM
Its funny how these junky old out of date pioneer players :D:pare the only ones to play every title, and correctly. The 95 in the den works like a charm as does the HD1 in the bedroom. The Pioneers are the only threads that actually discuss a player and not how much stuff is wrong with them. IE, the panny received a update this morning and it did not fix any of the problems with the player.

Rob Tomlin
01-29-08, 08:11 PM
Man, can't believe how quiet this thread has been the last few days. Guess everyone is enjoying watching BD's on their HD1's and patiently waiting for the new Elite players.

Like others have said, it just works. Also, "patiently" waiting is the key word. I am not big on extra features anyway, so a 2.0 player is of little extra value.

I would like a player that was faster to load though.

rudolpht
01-29-08, 09:04 PM
Ok, I'll add some OT type conversation. Should I play Sunshine on my BDP-HD1 (:)) or should I return it unplayed? The disk that is ;)

Dave Moritz
01-29-08, 09:05 PM
I am currently looking into upgrading my current Sony BDP-S300 Blu-ray to a newer player that offers full bitsteam of lossless codex's to a receiver. My main focus currently is to save for a receiver and choose the one that fits my needs. Then I can focus on a better Blu-ray player.

But here is what I am looking at so far:
Denon DVD-2500BT
Panasonic DMP-DM30K
Panasonic DMP-DM50K
Pioneer BDP-95FD

I really do not care if it is a 2.0 profile player because I do not intend on using the internet features. Other than to update the firmware that is. The two things I am looking for is a really good picture and bitstreaming lossless to my future receiver. How well does the Pioneer BDP-95FD accomplish these tasks? I have heard that the BDP-HD1 does a great job with video so I would assume that it would do just as well with the 95FD. Does anyone here with the 95FD have problems with bitstreaming Dolby True HD or DTS-HD MA to there receiver for it to be decoded?

Paul Arnette
01-30-08, 08:28 AM
Like others have said, it just works.

That's the truth, brother! 3:10 to Yuma, Resident Evil: Extinction, Shoot 'Em Up, and Sunshine all played without a hitch. http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

HTMan34
01-30-08, 11:32 AM
As I've posted before, I lost my HMG since moving to Windows Vista. I tried TVERSITY but I must not be setting it up correctly because HMG still doesn't work. Any special tips to setting it up? I indicated which folders have my files, but HMG is still grayed out on my BDP-HD1. Maybe HMG doesn't work if your computer has a main logon and a guest? I'm just guessing. I keep hoping a new firmware update fixes the problem, but it never does.

Try checking firewall settings, whether you are using Windows Firewall or a 3rd party one. If they are set incorrectly they will block anything trying to go out or coming in. I have Vista Home Premium and the HMG works fine with WMP 11. You might even want to uninstall WMP 11 and reinstall it and then readd the HD1 within WMP.

HTMan34
01-30-08, 11:34 AM
That's the truth, brother! 3:10 to Yuma, Resident Evil: Extinction, Shoot 'Em Up, and Sunshine all played without a hitch. http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

And this is the reason that I still have my HD1 since December of '06!

BasementBob
01-30-08, 01:46 PM
rudolpht:
Should I play Sunshine on my BDP-HD1
Well that depends.
If you're talking about the John Denver CD "Sunshine" I think the BDP-HD1 doesn't play CDs.
If you're talking about the BluRay movie "Sunshine" -- yes play it. Good film. Visually stunningly rich to a sci fi fan.

BasementBob
01-30-08, 01:49 PM
[humor]
3:10 to Yuma, Resident Evil: Extinction, Shoot 'Em Up, and Sunshine all played without a hitch.
Why "without a Hitch (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EZ7ZYA)"? It's available in BluRay. :)

rudolpht
01-30-08, 10:32 PM
rudolpht:

Well that depends.
If you're talking about the John Denver CD "Sunshine" I think the BDP-HD1 doesn't play CDs.
If you're talking about the BluRay movie "Sunshine" -- yes play it. Good film. Visually stunningly rich to a sci fi fan.

The latter. Thanks :)

HTMan34
01-31-08, 12:30 AM
[humor]

Why "without a Hitch (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EZ7ZYA)"? It's available in BluRay. :)

I think he means because since these are all 1.1 profile titles that contain a PIP option, which obviously will not play on the HD1, but the movies themselves play fine.

Nevermind...just got your joke:)

Paul Arnette
01-31-08, 10:25 AM
[humor]

Why "without a Hitch (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EZ7ZYA)"? It's available in BluRay. :)

Because while the BDP-HD1 wouldn't choke on it, I would. ;)

NemoZorro
01-31-08, 11:08 AM
Just saw Game Plan - not bad - good for family feel good time. I really don't mind the Rock as an actor. Course I liked Arnold in his family comedies too.

Disc played perfectly and looked very colorful. Football scenes were kinda funny to watch though.

madkaw
02-01-08, 09:22 AM
BUMP,
What are you fellas going to watch this weekend movie wise? Other than the Superbowl.

giomania
02-01-08, 03:37 PM
BUMP,
What are you fellas going to watch this weekend movie wise? Other than the Superbowl.

Flags of Our Fathers. Yes, I am very behind...

Mark

BasementBob
02-01-08, 05:19 PM
Spiderman 3 (also behind -- got a pile)

drhankz
02-02-08, 07:36 AM
I can't believe how fast the LOAD TIMES are on a New Blu-Ray Movie.

Seemed like 10 seconds.

madkaw
02-02-08, 08:54 AM
I can't believe how fast the LOAD TIMES are on a New Blu-Ray Movie.

Seemed like 10 seconds.

This is the exact reason why I have no problem waiting for the 2.0 model. The HD1 in the bedroom and the 95 in the den are more than adequite. Actually the 95 is a tick faster than the HD1. I watched AVP last night and it took about 12 seconds to load.

HTMan34
02-02-08, 08:55 AM
BUMP,
What are you fellas going to watch this weekend movie wise? Other than the Superbowl.

Nothing this weekend for me...heading down to Florida with the family. Did just finally watch Spiderman 3 last night though, excellent AQ and very good PQ!

HTMan34
02-02-08, 08:56 AM
Flags of Our Fathers. Yes, I am very behind...

Mark

Very good movie.

HTMan34
02-02-08, 08:57 AM
I can't believe how fast the LOAD TIMES are on a New Blu-Ray Movie.

Seemed like 10 seconds.

I agree with you on the load times. They are improved big time! All movies that have to load the Java applets in the beginning are a lot quicker, especially with the last FW update.

HTMan34
02-02-08, 08:58 AM
This is the exact reason why I have no problem waiting for the 2.0 model. The HD1 in the bedroom and the 95 in the den are more than adequite. Actually the 95 is a tick faster than the HD1. I watched AVP last night and it took about 12 seconds to load.

Same here. No reason to move the HD1 out of the theater just yet. If the 2.0 comes in the fall, then so be it. My HD1 is perfect for now!

drhankz
02-02-08, 09:02 AM
I agree with you on the load times. They are improved big time! All movies that have to load the Java applets in the beginning are a lot quicker, especially with the last FW update.

Wait to you watch THE BRAVE ONE on Blu-Ray.

FASTEST LOAD TIME EVER. http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

Paul Arnette
02-02-08, 02:34 PM
BUMP,
What are you fellas going to watch this weekend movie wise? Other than the Superbowl.

Superman Returns with my son, and Monty Python's Life of Brian with my wife. I'm actually starting to make a dent in my watch pile, but sometimes it feels like I'm working at the post office instead of mail it's the movies that keep on coming. :D

obsession
02-02-08, 05:36 PM
I keep getting "DATA DISC" when I try to update with a disc that I cut for Version 3.70. Can someone with a Mac, preferably running Leopard, give me detailed instructions on how to download the update and specifically how to burn the DVD to update the player. This should be intuitive, but I'm missing something in the online instructions.

I have also searched this forum and others for hours with no success.

Thanks for any help someone can give,

obsession

drhankz
02-02-08, 09:27 PM
I keep getting "DATA DISC" when I try to update with a disc that I cut for Version 3.70. Can someone with a Mac, preferably running Leopard, give me detailed instructions on how to download the update and specifically how to burn the DVD to update the player. This should be intuitive, but I'm missing something in the online instructions.

I have also searched this forum and others for hours with no success.

Thanks for any help someone can give,

obsession

I'm on a MAC and as long as you use TOAST - there
is NO PROBLEM burning an update Disc.

HTMan34
02-03-08, 07:24 AM
Wait to you watch THE BRAVE ONE on Blu-Ray.

FASTEST LOAD TIME EVER. http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

I plan on renting this one...Tell me your secrets for getting these movies early:D

HTMan34
02-03-08, 07:26 AM
Superman Returns with my son, and Monty Python's Life of Brian with my wife. I'm actually starting to make a dent in my watch pile, but sometimes it feels like I'm working at the post office instead of mail it's the movies that keep on coming. :D

I hear you. The same thing with me, I just start catching up and then I get a bunch more and I am behind again. I guess it is better than being stuck watching repeats:D

giomania
02-03-08, 07:53 AM
I keep getting "DATA DISC" when I try to update with a disc that I cut for Version 3.70. Can someone with a Mac, preferably running Leopard, give me detailed instructions on how to download the update and specifically how to burn the DVD to update the player. This should be intuitive, but I'm missing something in the online instructions.

I have also searched this forum and others for hours with no success.

Thanks for any help someone can give,

obsession

I use disk utility, and it works in both tiger and leapord. I just download the iso file, launch disk utility, click on the file and click burn. Sometimes the files are not in the view pane of disk utility, so I just have to drag it over after locating it in finder.

There are also instructions somewhere on the master firmware burning thread, where I initially learned how to do this.

I hope this makes sense.

Mark

drhankz
02-03-08, 07:55 AM
I plan on renting this one...Tell me your secrets for getting these movies early:D

NO SECRET - My Rental store gets Tuesday Releases on Friday.

They all do :rolleyes:

NemoZorro
02-07-08, 11:41 AM
Just saw Wall Street last night - as usual, it played perfectly. Also, it loaded really quickly - under 20 seconds from load to menu.

Was a bit disappointed in the print, though. A few obvious flaws - one scene has what looks like a piece of dust for a few seconds. A bit grainy, but I don't mind that.

Most of the print looks OK, but I guess I'm spoiled by what Disney has been doing lately. Love the movie, and I'm still impressed with the core DTS sound, and of course the HD1s ability to play with out a problem.

HTMan34
02-09-08, 11:39 PM
Been down in Florida all week with the family at Disney. I went into one of the stores in downtown Disney and they had a big Blu-ray display. Plasma showing all the current and upcoming Disney titles, including a short Finding Nemo clip with a picture of the case. Below the display was almost every Disney BD available. Thought it was pretty cool that BD is becoming more and more mainstreamed everyday. Just thought I would share with everyone. BTW, Nemo looked awesome, right up there with Chicken Little and Cars.

Abbas
02-12-08, 12:30 AM
Been down in Florida all week with the family at Disney. I went into one of the stores in downtown Disney and they had a big Blu-ray display. Plasma showing all the current and upcoming Disney titles, including a short Finding Nemo clip with a picture of the case. Below the display was almost every Disney BD available. Thought it was pretty cool that BD is becoming more and more mainstreamed everyday. Just thought I would share with everyone. BTW, Nemo looked awesome, right up there with Chicken Little and Cars.

Did you see one for Monsters, Inc?

HTMan34
02-12-08, 11:21 AM
Did you see one for Monsters, Inc?

No, only new titles I think were Nemo and Naria. I would love to hear when Disney is planning on Monsters Inc. and a bunch others.

NemoZorro
02-14-08, 03:49 PM
Saw Life of Brian - played flawlessly. Good transfer; much better than Wall Street. "Always look on the bright side of life........"

HTMan34
02-14-08, 03:54 PM
I finally got around to watching the "Ocean's" BD box set that I received for Christmas. If you want to experience very fast load times, these are definitely the movies. Just as fast as SD DVD's, the actual movie came on within a few seconds after putting the disc into the HD1. Now why can't all BD's load this fast without all the extra junk that bombards most other BD! BTW, the PQ was kind of weak on these movies as well as the pretty awful DD soundtrack.

NemoZorro
02-14-08, 03:59 PM
I finally got around to watching the "Ocean's" BD box set that I received for Christmas. If you want to experience very fast load times, these are definitely the movies. Just as fast as SD DVD's, the actual movie came on within a few seconds after putting the disc into the HD1. Now why can't all BD's load this fast without all the extra junk that bombards most other BD! BTW, the PQ was kind of weak on these movies as well as the pretty awful DD soundtrack.

Yea, I was more disappointed with the audio than the video. But I think part of the PQ issue was the "look" they were going for - definitely evident in the SD versions as well.

Love the movies, though. I am still hoping for the original Rat Pack version in BD.

drhankz
02-15-08, 08:00 AM
FYI (http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Toshiba/Report:_Toshiba_to_Drop_HD_DVD/1468)

HTMan34
02-15-08, 10:53 AM
Yea, I was more disappointed with the audio than the video. But I think part of the PQ issue was the "look" they were going for - definitely evident in the SD versions as well.

Love the movies, though. I am still hoping for the original Rat Pack version in BD.

The grainy kind of look was definitely part of the directors intent, but some of the dark scenes with faces have a cartoonish look. The overall PQ was weak and the audio was very weak as well. I think for a big box set that Warner would have given it a better treatment, but hopefully now that they are focusing on BD's only, things should consisitently be better. A lot of their newer titles have a TrueHD track and the PQ is very good.

HTMan34
02-15-08, 10:55 AM
FYI (http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Toshiba/Report:_Toshiba_to_Drop_HD_DVD/1468)

Combine this with all the other news this week, this really does not suprise me too much. Walmart, Best Buy and Netflix basically just put the final nails into HD-DVD.

drhankz
02-15-08, 12:59 PM
Combine this with all the other news this week, this really does not suprise me too much. Walmart, Best Buy and Netflix basically just put the final nails into HD-DVD.

I am format neutral - but the handwriting does seem to be clear.

HTMan34
02-15-08, 09:39 PM
I am format neutral - but the handwriting does seem to be clear.

Oh it is very clear now. I am very curious as to what this means for Toshiba as a company. They have invested alot, and I mean a lot of money into HD-DVD, and now have to face the music of defeat. Could be trouble for them as a company.

rudolpht
02-16-08, 09:08 AM
The party's over. (http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/) Expect to see remain in-stock HD DVD prices to fall (already at Amazon)

rudolpht
02-16-08, 09:25 AM
Chris, we need a Panasonic BMP-BD50 Pio competitive product? Hints?

drhankz
02-16-08, 10:03 AM
The party's over. (http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/16/toshiba-pulling-the-plug-on-hd-dvd-already/) Expect to see remain in-stock HD DVD prices to fall (already at Amazon)

I always figured this would be the outcome.

I was always format neutral. Both formats
delivered great PQ and AQ.

But it is all about content and that is where
Blu-Ray had more Studio Support.

drhankz
02-16-08, 10:05 AM
Chris, we need a Panasonic BMP-BD50 Pio competitive product? Hints?

I think Chris knows that and I'm sure Pio will
have one - I just think Panny will be 1st.

HTMan34
02-16-08, 10:32 AM
I always figured this would be the outcome.

I was always format neutral. Both formats
delivered great PQ and AQ.

But it is all about content and that is where
Blu-Ray had more Studio Support.

HD-DVD really never had that big of chance of winning, maybe in the very beginning, but then Blu-ray really got their act together and it has been downhill since for HD-DVD. I for one am just glad that the end is near and we can finally focus on 1 format and hopefully it will adopt to the mass people so it will continue to get better and even more consistent in quality.

HTMan34
02-16-08, 10:34 AM
Chris, we need a Panasonic BMP-BD50 Pio competitive product? Hints?

Chris already said that later on this year there will be a 2.0 Elite player that will most likely be similiar to the upcoming 05FD, just with some more features added on to it. It should be a great product and I am looking forward to replacing my HD1 in my theater with this Elite player.

drhankz
02-16-08, 10:36 AM
Chris already said that later on this year there will be a 2.0 Elite player that will most likely be similiar to the upcoming 05FD, just with some more features added on to it. It should be a great product and I am looking forward to replacing my HD1 in my theater with this Elite player.

Yup - Hopefully the Pio 2.0 Player will be available
for a Christmas Present to myself :D Just like the
HD1 was.

rudolpht
02-16-08, 11:52 AM
Yup - Hopefully the Pio 2.0 Player will be available
for a Christmas Present to myself :D Just like the
HD1 was.

A 4th of July present would be better :o

drhankz
02-16-08, 11:59 AM
A 4th of July present would be better :o

No Argument - but I think it is too early.

dr.pat
02-16-08, 01:20 PM
No Argument - but I think it is too early.

Now that the format war has ended more and more companies will develop blu-ray players and we will benefit from their "new feature" competition.
The Denon 3800 and the upcoming 05FD were close to be the successor to my hd1, but i will stick to it until a 2.0 profile arrives.
Hd1 is still a lot of joy and nearly no frustration (the only one is dts-master). I was a little sad to get titles like Pan's Labyrinth in 5.1 core when I have a 7.1 system. But if you take the PQ you can't really beat the HD1 at the moment. (denon 3800 will probably have a better PQ).
I don't care about the upscaling, what I really want is the best PQ and AQ for my blu-ray movies to show on my pionner PRO-150FD.
The HD1 was built with a quality-oriented vision and that's why it's still hard to find a successor one year later.

drhankz
02-16-08, 03:06 PM
The HD1 was built with a quality-oriented vision and that's why it's still hard to find a successor one year later.

I think all of us on the BDP-HD1 Thread Agree http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

rudolpht
02-16-08, 05:04 PM
I think all of us on the BDP-HD1 Thread Agree http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

yup

HTMan34
02-16-08, 10:17 PM
Yup - Hopefully the Pio 2.0 Player will be available
for a Christmas Present to myself :D Just like the
HD1 was.

Same here! Already have plans of moving the HD1 out of my theater and into the den. Of course my rear projection in the den will have to be replaced with a nice new plasma to go along with the HD1. Can't wait, but until then the HD1 will work fine for me.

HTMan34
02-16-08, 10:19 PM
I think all of us on the BDP-HD1 Thread Agree http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

Definitely! I am still amazed that this player is a 1st gen player.;)

HTMan34
02-16-08, 10:21 PM
Went to my local Walmart tonight and was browsing the BD's. It appears that a lot of the movies they are now selling are actually cheaper than some of Amazon's. The prices seem like they are going down. Maybe the exclusivity news already started trickling down. They had "The Rock" for only $18.99 and "We Own the Night" was a few dollars cheaper than Amazon. Let's hope this will continue.

drhankz
02-17-08, 07:48 AM
Went to my local Walmart tonight and was browsing the BD's. It appears that a lot of the movies they are now selling are actually cheaper than some of Amazon's. The prices seem like they are going down. Maybe the exclusivity news already started trickling down. They had "The Rock" for only $18.99 and "We Own the Night" was a few dollars cheaper than Amazon. Let's hope this will continue.

I'll have to surf my Walmart to compare.

I do like the convenience of shopping online
with Amazon and the FREE 2 day Shipping.

BasementBob
02-17-08, 09:39 AM
Walmart used to edit DVD movies for content. (i.e. a special batch of DVDs were created for WalMart for several R rated and action films)

HTMan34
02-17-08, 11:18 AM
I'll have to surf my Walmart to compare.

I do like the convenience of shopping online
with Amazon and the FREE 2 day Shipping.

I also like shopping on Amazon, but it is sometimes nice if I am in Walmart shopping and I can just pick up the movie that I want right then and there and not have to wait for it, provided it is cheaper than Amazon. Just a nice alternative to Amazon, but Amazon is still the king for movies and a lot of other things!

rudolpht
02-18-08, 09:38 AM
I also like shopping on Amazon, but it is sometimes nice if I am in Walmart shopping and I can just pick up the movie that I want right then and there and not have to wait for it, provided it is cheaper than Amazon. Just a nice alternative to Amazon, but Amazon is still the king for movies and a lot of other things!

I have to admit I'm lazy like Hank. On the rare occasion DeepDiscountDVD has some older movies that I'll get an order there.

HTMan34
02-18-08, 11:12 AM
I have to admit I'm lazy like Hank. On the rare occasion DeepDiscountDVD has some older movies that I'll get an order there.

It it amazing how much stuff I order on the internet, basically anything. It is much cheaper most of the time and it is a lot easier. I do my entire Christmas shopping via the internet:D

HTMan34
02-18-08, 11:16 AM
I just picked up Crimson Tide on BD yesterday from Best Buy. $14.99, not bad at all. They had a number of titles for that price, other than that they are a big ripoff! Most titles are $34.99! Unbelievable, but it is nice to find a cheap movie once and a while.

drhankz
02-18-08, 11:16 AM
It it amazing how much stuff I order on the internet, basically anything. It is much cheaper most of the time and it is a lot easier. I do my entire Christmas shopping via the internet:D

Same here.

I save money and time and it is convenient.

Although Tim calls me LAZY [GRIN]!

BasementBob
02-18-08, 11:29 AM
Watched Michael Clayton [Blu-ray] -- no big surprise, spent $34 to get it.

HTMan34
02-18-08, 04:05 PM
Same here.

I save money and time and it is convenient.

Although Tim calls me LAZY [GRIN]!

Not lazy at all, just gives you more time to do other things, and spend money elsewhere, like buying BD's from Amazon:D

HTMan34
02-18-08, 04:06 PM
Watched Michael Clayton [Blu-ray] -- no big surprise, spent $34 to get it.

Plan on renting tihs one, no real interest in purchasing.

dr.pat
02-18-08, 06:02 PM
Watched Michael Clayton [Blu-ray] -- no big surprise, spent $34 to get it.

Yes... not really an interesting movie. Well done but nothing special.
In the Valley of Elah is far better in my opinion. (if you need to pick something in the releases of the week).

HTMan34
02-19-08, 09:43 AM
I think we should all celebrate Blu-ray's victory today and go out and buy a BD and watch it on our beloved HD1's!

dr.pat
02-19-08, 11:20 AM
Looks like we will have Universal movies in a few weeks. :p

"While Universal values the close partnership we have shared with Toshiba, it is time to turn our focus to releasing new and catalog titles on Blu-ray," said Craig Kornblau, president of Universal Studios Home Entertainment. :p

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/news/html/breaking_article.cfm?sec_id=2&&article_ID=12118

Come on Paramount don't stay in your corner :-)

HTMan34
02-19-08, 04:50 PM
Looks like we will have Universal movies in a few weeks. :p

"While Universal values the close partnership we have shared with Toshiba, it is time to turn our focus to releasing new and catalog titles on Blu-ray," said Craig Kornblau, president of Universal Studios Home Entertainment. :p

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/news/html/breaking_article.cfm?sec_id=2&&article_ID=12118

Come on Paramount don't stay in your corner :-)

It will probably be more than a few weeks, remember Universal nver manfactured BD's, only HD-DVD's. They will have to retool their factories to accomidate BD manufacturing equipment. Probably will not see a Universal BD until at least the summer. Paramount on the other hand manfactured both, so should be an easy transition to full BD manufacturing.

drhankz
02-19-08, 05:45 PM
It will probably be more than a few weeks, remember Universal nver manfactured BD's, only HD-DVD's. They will have to retool their factories to accomidate BD manufacturing equipment. Probably will not see a Universal BD until at least the summer. Paramount on the other hand manfactured both, so should be an easy transition to full BD manufacturing.

I think all of these folks outsource the Manufacturing
to others. At most they probably do the Encoding.

BasementBob
02-19-08, 10:37 PM
drhankz

At most they probably do the Encoding.
Even that's a steep learning curve I'll bet they're not looking forward to. Encoding HD-DVDs with any quality (video, menu, defining all the navigation buttons, etc) was MUCH easier than doing a BluRay. The mastering environment for HDDVD was a much nicer UI, and did more with less effort.

drhankz
02-20-08, 06:22 AM
drhankz


Even that's a steep learning curve I'll bet they're not looking forward to. Encoding HD-DVDs with any quality (video, menu, defining all the navigation buttons, etc) was MUCH easier than doing a BluRay. The mastering environment for HDDVD was a much nicer UI, and did more with less effort.

I agree - but now we have only one format and it
is time to JOIN the GAME.

HTMan34
02-20-08, 09:44 AM
I think all of these folks outsource the Manufacturing
to others. At most they probably do the Encoding.

Either way, it will not be in a few weeks, more like a few months to get up and running. We will probably start seeing BD's from Universal byt the summer.

HTMan34
02-20-08, 09:47 AM
I agree - but now we have only one format and it
is time to JOIN the GAME.

I am sure Universal will make every effort to start getting BD's out ASAP, they don't want to lose any more money than they have to. Paramount on the other hand should be able to start releasing BD's again today, if they decide to do so.

NemoZorro
02-21-08, 02:42 PM
Went to my local Walmart tonight and was browsing the BD's. It appears that a lot of the movies they are now selling are actually cheaper than some of Amazon's. The prices seem like they are going down. Maybe the exclusivity news already started trickling down. They had "The Rock" for only $18.99 and "We Own the Night" was a few dollars cheaper than Amazon. Let's hope this will continue.

Yes, the Rock was always that price at our local WM. Many of the Disney ones are 19.99 or 24.99 when they first come out. Definitely something to check for. I like picking up locally there or at Frys because if something is wrong it is easy to exchange. Although that extra coating has made cleaning these discs a breeze without fear of scratching like with DVD or HD.

HTMan34
02-21-08, 08:46 PM
Yes, the Rock was always that price at our local WM. Many of the Disney ones are 19.99 or 24.99 when they first come out. Definitely something to check for. I like picking up locally there or at Frys because if something is wrong it is easy to exchange. Although that extra coating has made cleaning these discs a breeze without fear of scratching like with DVD or HD.

I am a Amazon junky, but it is noce every now and then to have an alternative like Walmart to pick up a BD if the price is the same or even lower than Amazon...The extra coating is very nice, especially when you rent them and there are tons of fingerprints or some scratches, makes it a lot easier to clean them.

schoolyard
02-24-08, 02:21 PM
I am also a hd-DVD looser so I bought a BDP-HD1 player,but it has no ac power cord and every electronic site or store has universal power cords,but they all have receptor for a unit with 3 prongs on back of unit,I am not talking about end that plugs into wall,those are all grounded to plug in wall.The only place so far is Pioneer who has ac cord with two prong receptacle that plugs into back of player,my question is a three holed ac power cable fits on back of machine,but player only has two,can I use connector that you can bye anywhere or am I stuck paying 50.00 from Pioneer-Thanks

madkaw
02-24-08, 04:26 PM
I am also a hd-DVD looser so I bought a BDP-HD1 player,but it has no ac power cord and every electronic site or store has universal power cords,but they all have receptor for a unit with 3 prongs on back of unit,I am not talking about end that plugs into wall,those are all grounded to plug in wall.The only place so far is Pioneer who has ac cord with two prong receptacle that plugs into back of player,my question is a three holed ac power cable fits on back of machine,but player only has two,can I use connector that you can bye anywhere or am I stuck paying 50.00 from Pioneer-Thanks

You can use any standard 3 prong (computer power supply cord). The players have no grounding circuit is the only reason they are 2 pin.

schoolyard
02-24-08, 09:15 PM
It's funny to see how much the people working at electronic stores really know-nothing,half of the people I asked the same question did not know what a ac power cord was.Thanks for your help,I had a feeling that was correct but I did not want to short-circuit player.I hope this works as well my A20-I bought this because I already have Elite AVR.

NemoZorro
02-28-08, 06:17 PM
I am also a hd-DVD looser so I bought a BDP-HD1 player,but it has no ac power cord and every electronic site or store has universal power cords,but they all have receptor for a unit with 3 prongs on back of unit,I am not talking about end that plugs into wall,those are all grounded to plug in wall.The only place so far is Pioneer who has ac cord with two prong receptacle that plugs into back of player,my question is a three holed ac power cable fits on back of machine,but player only has two,can I use connector that you can bye anywhere or am I stuck paying 50.00 from Pioneer-Thanks

BTW, welcome to the club. You should find the HD1 to be a very stable unit. Hopefully anyway! :)

HTMan34
02-29-08, 12:47 AM
BTW, welcome to the club. You should find the HD1 to be a very stable unit. Hopefully anyway! :)

Very stable indeed, rock solid for a 1st gen player!

sddave
03-02-08, 12:04 AM
Disregard

rudolpht
03-02-08, 09:55 AM
Just waiting to get the kids away from more productive pursuits so we can watch Justice League the New Frontier

drhankz
03-02-08, 10:19 AM
Just waiting to get the kids away from more productive pursuits so we can watch Justice League the New Frontier

I never heard of that movie - but when I looked
it up - it seems to be a KIDS movie so why are
you waiting for the kids to go away.

HTMan34
03-02-08, 10:21 AM
I never heard of that movie - but when I looked
it up - it seems to be a KIDS movie so why are
you waiting for the kids to go away.

I think he wants the kids to watch it with him.

drhankz
03-02-08, 10:27 AM
I think he wants the kids to watch it with him.

In my version of ENGLISH - I don't think so.

Away is Away :D

rudolpht
03-02-08, 12:10 PM
I think he wants the kids to watch it with him.

I want the kids to STOP doing important things and come have fun watching with their Dad :) It's that extra dry wit with a smidge of sarcasm.

HTMan34
03-02-08, 02:52 PM
I want the kids to STOP doing important things and come have fun watching with their Dad :) It's that extra dry wit with a smidge of sarcasm.

I actually got that when you first posted it, the old timers like Hank are a little slow:D...just j/k.

rudolpht
03-02-08, 03:50 PM
I actually got that when you first posted it, the old timers like Hank are a little slow:D...just j/k.

You got him before I did :), but ... for old timers :) :o :) this "adult" cartoon was a pretty good take on post Korean-conflict retro superheroes. Everyone knows the comics are just for big kids :) A little preachy, but impressed. (And of course it came from my lazy Amazon order early last week :))

HTMan34
03-03-08, 10:08 AM
You got him before I did :), but ... for old timers :) :o :) this "adult" cartoon was a pretty good take on post Korean-conflict retro superheroes. Everyone knows the comics are just for big kids :) A little preachy, but impressed. (And of course it came from my lazy Amazon order early last week :))

I love being "lazy" and ordering from Amazon!

Walkamo
03-04-08, 10:28 PM
Hi Everyone,

New firmware is now posted on our website for the BDP-95FD as well as the HD1 and 94HD..


CHANGE HISTORY

- Enhances stability of BD-Java playback (*)
- Fixes uncontrollable menu of certain DVD-Video disc.
- Fixes intermittent audio during playback of certain BD-ROM disc.
- Performance improvement
* The player's action can be slower than expected depending on contents (menu, game, etc.) included in certain BD-Java discs.


Thanks,

Chris Walker

Rob Tomlin
03-04-08, 11:19 PM
Hi Everyone,

New firmware is now posted on our website for the BDP-95FD as well as the HD1 and 94HD..


CHANGE HISTORY

- Enhances stability of BD-Java playback (*)
- Fixes uncontrollable menu of certain DVD-Video disc.
- Fixes intermittent audio during playback of certain BD-ROM disc.
- Performance improvement
* The player's action can be slower than expected depending on contents (menu, game, etc.) included in certain BD-Java discs.


Thanks,

Chris Walker

Great. We appreciate your continued participation here Chris, as well as Pioneer's continued customer support!

My next Blu-ray player will, in all likelihood, be another Elite. :cool:

drhankz
03-05-08, 06:22 AM
Hi Everyone,

New firmware is now posted on our website for the BDP-95FD as well as the HD1 and 94HD..


Thanks for the update Chris and thanks for posting
the info here, otherwise we would not have known
about it.

madkaw
03-05-08, 06:30 AM
Downloaded this morning, but had to go to work so I will try it out this afternoon.

HTMan34
03-05-08, 10:17 AM
Hi Everyone,

New firmware is now posted on our website for the BDP-95FD as well as the HD1 and 94HD..


CHANGE HISTORY

- Enhances stability of BD-Java playback (*)
- Fixes uncontrollable menu of certain DVD-Video disc.
- Fixes intermittent audio during playback of certain BD-ROM disc.
- Performance improvement
* The player's action can be slower than expected depending on contents (menu, game, etc.) included in certain BD-Java discs.


Thanks,

Chris Walker

Thanks Chris for the info. Nice suprise this morning!

dbill
03-05-08, 10:39 AM
what is the latest version # for the HD-1

BasementBob
03-05-08, 12:00 PM
Firmware BDP_HD1_Ver375.zip is being downloaded now from
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Support/HomeEntertainment/Blu-rayDisc+DVD/Blu-rayDiscPlayers/ci.BDP-HD1.Support?tab=B

Prior version was 3.70

NemoZorro
03-05-08, 05:31 PM
Thank you again Chris - you guys continuing to support this player makes it oh so likely we will continue to patronage Pioneer in the future! Thanks again.

HTMan34
03-05-08, 07:49 PM
Downloaded and installed the 3.75 FW update this afternoon. Worked perfectly as usual. Now I will try tonight and see if there are any noticable differences in performance. Nice surprise from Chris and the guys at Pioneer. Way to go guys!

HTMan34
03-05-08, 07:49 PM
Thank you again Chris - you guys continuing to support this player makes it oh so likely we will continue to patronage Pioneer in the future! Thanks again.

Come on Elite 2.0 profile player!

Rob Tomlin
03-05-08, 07:54 PM
Downloaded and installed the 3.75 FW update this afternoon. Worked perfectly as usual. Now I will try tonight and see if there are any noticable differences in performance. Nice surprise from Chris and the guys at Pioneer. Way to go guys!

I just burned the disc, and will download it later tonight. Burning it to disc was no problem.

rudolpht
03-05-08, 10:12 PM
Hi Everyone,

New firmware is now posted on our website for the BDP-95FD as well as the HD1 and 94HD..


CHANGE HISTORY

- Enhances stability of BD-Java playback (*)
- Fixes uncontrollable menu of certain DVD-Video disc.
- Fixes intermittent audio during playback of certain BD-ROM disc.
- Performance improvement
* The player's action can be slower than expected depending on contents (menu, game, etc.) included in certain BD-Java discs.


Thanks,

Chris Walker

Thanks Chris!

Rob Tomlin
03-06-08, 10:32 AM
I completed the FW upgrade last night without a hitch.

drhankz
03-06-08, 10:43 AM
I completed the FW upgrade last night without a hitch.

True Pioneer Performance - NO HITCHES :D

HTMan34
03-06-08, 11:16 AM
True Pioneer Performance - NO HITCHES :D

I counted yesterday and there have been 8 FW updates so far for the HD1, all were downloaded and installed with no problems! I am still amazed on this 1st gen player and the level of support that Pioneer is still providing for it.

madkaw
03-06-08, 12:38 PM
I counted yesterday and there have been 8 FW updates so far for the HD1, all were downloaded and installed with no problems! I am still amazed on this 1st gen player and the level of support that Pioneer is still providing for it.

:D
Look at how many there have been for the Sammy 1000....... my point exactly.

HTMan34
03-06-08, 06:54 PM
:D
Look at how many there have been for the Sammy 1000....... my point exactly.

And most of these updates were soley for making this player just perform better and faster, not too many issues or problems that needed to be fixed by these updates.

drhankz
03-06-08, 08:46 PM
And most of these updates were soley for making this player just perform better and faster, not too many issues or problems that needed to be fixed by these updates.

Ya just that one Lionsgate problem way back when Lionsgate
had the wrong database format and Pioneer went out of their
way to fix what was a Lionsgate problem.

HTMan34
03-07-08, 08:16 AM
Ya just that one Lionsgate problem way back when Lionsgate
had the wrong database format and Pioneer went out of their
way to fix what was a Lionsgate problem.

Yup, not many issues, mostly Pioneer fixing issues that were from the result of movie manufacturers being ahead of the hardware companies. Since there seems to be more consistency between both parties now, Pioneer now focuses on just making the HD1 an even better player than it already is!

Rob Tomlin
03-07-08, 09:44 AM
Ya just that one Lionsgate problem way back when Lionsgate
had the wrong database format and Pioneer went out of their
way to fix what was a Lionsgate problem.

Which title was that? Was it "The Descent"?

uw69
03-07-08, 09:53 AM
I think another measure of how good this player is....hardly any up for sale either here or on e-bay. Those that have them hang on to them!

drhankz
03-07-08, 11:13 AM
Which title was that? Was it "The Descent"?

That was the one. Lionsgate had the Java Database
wrong and Pioneer changed their FW to accommodate
a mistake - which no one has made since. They must
have a special piece of code just for the one mistake.

NemoZorro
03-07-08, 01:55 PM
I know it's a bit off topic, but I'm wondering what if any impact Pioneer's plasma decision will have on their BD business. Looks like they will be partnering with Sharp even on BD stuff, unless I am misreading the article.

I think we all know how quality Pio products are; I just hope that newer BD players won't suffer in quality from any "arrangement" with another manufacturer.

dr.pat
03-07-08, 01:58 PM
I read this thread every day and for once that I skip it, that's the day they choose to release the new firmware.

So here is my seventh cavalry thanks to Chris :p

dr.pat
03-07-08, 02:05 PM
Anybody knows the status of dts-hd High resolution audio?
I finally managed to get one movie using it (La môme (french import) - La vie en rose). The player seems to recognize it but I have no certainty. :confused:

drhankz
03-07-08, 02:33 PM
Anybody knows the status of dts-hd High resolution audio?
I finally managed to get one movie using it (La môme (french import) - La vie en rose). The player seems to recognize it but I have no certainty. :confused:

The status is it will be available of the BDP-05FD model when it ships.

Rob Tomlin
03-07-08, 04:01 PM
That was the one. Lionsgate had the Java Database
wrong and Pioneer changed their FW to accommodate
a mistake - which no one has made since. They must
have a special piece of code just for the one mistake.

That's what I thought.

I upgraded the FW before I rented The Descent, and it played without a hitch. :cool:

dr.pat
03-07-08, 04:08 PM
The status is it will be available of the BDP-05FD model when it ships.

I'm not speaking about dts-master. I'm speaking about their mid-level codec.

http://www.dtsonline.com/dts-hd/dts-on-bluray-and-hddvd.php

One of the firmware updates was supposed to give the HD1 compatible with DTS-HD High Resolution. We never got the final confirmation.

drhankz
03-07-08, 04:15 PM
I'm not speaking about dts-master. I'm speaking about their mid-level codec.

http://www.dtsonline.com/dts-hd/dts-on-bluray-and-hddvd.php

One of the firmware updates was supposed to give the HD1 compatible with DTS-HD High Resolution. We never got the final confirmation.

Too many DTS-HD's to keep track of.

Are there any movies with DTS High-Res versus DTS-MA?

spaghettisound
03-07-08, 05:03 PM
I Played my Apocalypto disc, which did never play right, and it had NO bad VIDEO spots like it was before. I think the upgrade helped? I have had my BDP-HD1 for some time, and I love this Player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I also have an Elite amp and Receiver, with the wood panels on the sides. I love Pioneer Elite equipment!!!!!!!!!!!! And I Love this Players UPGRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HTMan34
03-07-08, 05:33 PM
I know it's a bit off topic, but I'm wondering what if any impact Pioneer's plasma decision will have on their BD business. Looks like they will be partnering with Sharp even on BD stuff, unless I am misreading the article.

I think we all know how quality Pio products are; I just hope that newer BD players won't suffer in quality from any "arrangement" with another manufacturer.

The article only says that they are having their Plasma displays manufactured by Sharp and other companies instead of in house...also adding LCD's to their lineup. I am sure that Pioneer is going to want to keep their reputation as building the best Plasmas on the market and will oversee a lot of the process.

HTMan34
03-07-08, 05:35 PM
I'm not speaking about dts-master. I'm speaking about their mid-level codec.

http://www.dtsonline.com/dts-hd/dts-on-bluray-and-hddvd.php

One of the firmware updates was supposed to give the HD1 compatible with DTS-HD High Resolution. We never got the final confirmation.

I think that the fact that there are only a few movies that contain a DTS-HD HR soundtrack we will never see it incoprporated into the HD1's FW for internal decoding.

HTMan34
03-07-08, 05:36 PM
Too many DTS-HD's to keep track of.

Are there any movies with DTS High-Res versus DTS-MA?

Most of the earlier Lionsgate movies contained DTS-HD HR, but even they switched over to using 7.1 PCM on the newer movies. I think HR will be a thing of the past soon as MA takes over.

HTMan34
03-07-08, 05:37 PM
I Played my Apocalypto disc, which did never play right, and it had NO bad VIDEO spots like it was before. I think the upgrade helped? I have had my BDP-HD1 for some time, and I love this Player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I also have an Elite amp and Receiver, with the wood panels on the sides. I love Pioneer Elite equipment!!!!!!!!!!!! And I Love this Players UPGRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think we are pretty much all in agreement with you on this thread about this player, excellent to say the least!

BasementBob
03-07-08, 07:08 PM
[humor]

I got a blu-ray disk that said in a flyer inside
IMPORTANT NOTICE. This Blu-ray disk is the most advanced high definition technology available. If you have any problems with this disk it must be the fault of your Blu-ray disk player. Please consult your hardware manufacturer's website for the latest firmware and follow its installation instructions.
Is this anything I need to worry about? (It seems to play fine.)

schoolyard
03-07-08, 10:47 PM
I am a new BDP-HD1 owner and an trying to download
firmware upgrade disc sent by Pioneer,I get wrt failed 6
message yet I can play any BD disc or SD disc,anyone have any clues,of course the upgrade is 3.70 and now there is a newer update-bad player or bad disc?Any help
would be great-I am a HD-DVD re-tread.Thanks

NemoZorro
03-08-08, 01:51 AM
The article only says that they are having their Plasma displays manufactured by Sharp and other companies instead of in house...also adding LCD's to their lineup. I am sure that Pioneer is going to want to keep their reputation as building the best Plasmas on the market and will oversee a lot of the process.

This was the part I was concerned about in the full PDF:

In the optical disc field, Pioneer and Sharp have agreed to join forces to expand their respective Blu-ray Disc-related product businesses. This step takes the alliance beyond merely supplying existing products such as DVD players and DVD recorders to each other. Joint development of pickups and drives for Blu-ray Disc players/recorders, will bolster the two companies’ vertically integrated business models spanning devices to end products. Cost reductions resulting from more efficient development and volume growth will in turn contribute to business expansion. Here too, Pioneer and Sharp are resolved to build even stronger ties by efficiently conducting joint development.

I don't know; I just trust Pio and their quality alot more than I do Sharp. Maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit here, but the BD and Plasma combos that Pio has now can't be beat in my opinion, and I just hope that quality doesn't suffer because of this new development.

BasementBob
03-08-08, 10:59 AM
Maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit here, but the BD and Plasma combos that Pio has now can't be beat in my opinion
I believe that Pioneer is getting out of the Plasma manufacturing business. I believe they have a deal with Panasonic to share their technology, perhaps in a similar way that they're doing bluray with Sharp.

From Ultimate AV:

Pioneer Makes it Official
By Scott Wilkinson
March 7, 2008 — In a press release issued today, Pioneer announced it will stop manufacturing raw plasma panels, stating, "We have judged that maintaining the cost competitiveness of plasma display panels at projected sales volumes will be difficult going forward. Accordingly, we have decided to terminate in-house plasma display panel production and to procure these panels externally, after panel production for our next series of models is complete...Pioneer is currently in discussions on the feasibility of procuring panel modules that may incorporate the Company's proprietary technologies. Details will be announced as soon as they are finalized."

Rob Tomlin
03-08-08, 11:43 AM
I'm not speaking about dts-master. I'm speaking about their mid-level codec.

http://www.dtsonline.com/dts-hd/dts-on-bluray-and-hddvd.php

One of the firmware updates was supposed to give the HD1 compatible with DTS-HD High Resolution. We never got the final confirmation.

I don't remember which movie it was (even though it was in the last week) but I went in and chose the DTS track (don't remember if it specified DTS HR etc), and my Anthem D2 showed an audio input of 1536 kbps, which is more than a legacy DTS track, isn't it?

HTMan34
03-08-08, 11:49 AM
[humor]

I got a blu-ray disk that said in a flyer inside

Is this anything I need to worry about? (It seems to play fine.)

Almost every BD comes with one of these "disclaimers", just the movie companies trying to blame the hardware manufacturers if the BD does not play correctly...nothing to worry about.

HTMan34
03-08-08, 11:52 AM
This was the part I was concerned about in the full PDF:

In the optical disc field, Pioneer and Sharp have agreed to join forces to expand their respective Blu-ray Disc-related product businesses. This step takes the alliance beyond merely supplying existing products such as DVD players and DVD recorders to each other. Joint development of pickups and drives for Blu-ray Disc players/recorders, will bolster the two companies’ vertically integrated business models spanning devices to end products. Cost reductions resulting from more efficient development and volume growth will in turn contribute to business expansion. Here too, Pioneer and Sharp are resolved to build even stronger ties by efficiently conducting joint development.

I don't know; I just trust Pio and their quality alot more than I do Sharp. Maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit here, but the BD and Plasma combos that Pio has now can't be beat in my opinion, and I just hope that quality doesn't suffer because of this new development.

I hear you and agree with the fact that Pioneer's Plasmas and BD players can not be beat, but Pioneer is not going to let that go down the tubes. They will most likely have the final say on any product that make, whether it is by themselves or in conjunction with Sharp or any other manufacturer.

HTMan34
03-08-08, 11:55 AM
I believe that Pioneer is getting out of the Plasma manufacturing business. I believe they have a deal with Panasonic to share their technology, perhaps in a similar way that they're doing bluray with Sharp.

Bascially they will have someone build their Plasmas, they will provide the parts and the guts of the TV's. I believe that they will have LCD's incorporated into their lineup as well.

HTMan34
03-08-08, 11:57 AM
I don't remember which movie it was (even though it was in the last week) but I went in and chose the DTS track (don't remember if it specified DTS HR etc), and my Anthem D2 showed an audio input of 1536 kbps, which is more than a legacy DTS track, isn't it?

That is the full bitrate DTS core track, which is more than the older DTS tracks on SD-DVD's.

BasementBob
03-08-08, 12:40 PM
HTMan34
Almost every BD comes with one of these "disclaimers", just the movie companies trying to blame the hardware manufacturers if the BD does not play correctly...nothing to worry about.I think you missed the humor.
Yes, almost every BD and HDDVD comes with a 'please load new firmware' flyer.
What made it amusing is I just installed, what, the sixth firmware update, yesterday? And I skipped a couple firmwares.

dr.pat
03-08-08, 01:05 PM
Seems Pioneer isn't really abandoning Kuro Plasma after all.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/08/pioneer-isnt-abandoning-kuro-plasma-expects-same-quality-panel/

Good news... the PRO-150FD is really the best screen I've ever had. I really hope they continue to elaborate this Kuro concept.

dr.pat
03-08-08, 01:17 PM
I am a new BDP-HD1 owner and an trying to download
firmware upgrade disc sent by Pioneer,I get wrt failed 6
message yet I can play any BD disc or SD disc,anyone have any clues,of course the upgrade is 3.70 and now there is a newer update-bad player or bad disc?Any help
would be great-I am a HD-DVD re-tread.Thanks

Did you correctly burn the iso?
You must not burn the iso file on a disk but the iso image must create a disk with several files on it.
After you burn the iso you must be able to see 4 files on the dvd (BRANDED and P0001.BIN, P0002.BIN, P0003.BIN).
Also check the type of dvd you use.
I've always used an DVD+R but I think DVD-R is recommended.

schoolyard
03-08-08, 05:24 PM
Thanks for your reply,I was mailed the firmware disc from
Pioneer,my computer I found does not have a dvd burner
just a dvd reader so I ordered disc from Pioneer,I am going to buy a burner unit for my computer,they are cheep,then download 3.75 firmware on dvd-r disc and re-try,I hope it works or I have a problem with player,I guess?

BasementBob
03-08-08, 06:21 PM
I got a Sony DVD-R burner last year (might be a DRU-720A), and a copy of Nero 7 Ultra Edition, just for this.
Into my Dell computer, with Windows XP, I've never had any problems doing the below:

=======================

1) Start > Programs > Nero 7 Ultra Edition > Data > Nero Burning ROM

2) Clicked on DVD-Video

3) Clicked on the OPEN button on the bottom. Opened the "GM3_r57900_BP06A_Std_PIO_Static_Prod_MRUA136_branded_umdvd.i so" file that was in the .zip file I downloaded from the pioneer website.

4) Left hand side now says "CD Image". Right hand side has the "Burn" tab.

5) I used top left dropdown list to change it from "CD" to "DVD", at which point the left hand side now says "DVD Image".

6) I put in my blank DVD-R into the disk tray. After a few seconds windows noticed I had a "blank CD" in there and popped up a what do I want to do with it window, which I just closed.

7) back in Nero7, I've left the:
Action Determine maximum speed - unchecked
Action Simulation - unchecked
Action Write - checked
Action Finalize Disk (no further writing possible) - checked
I changed the write speed from 32X down to 4x (the slowest)
I left the Write method at "disk-at-once" and 1 copy.

8) I pushed the BURN button

9) It started burning the disk. Down on the bottom left I checked the "Verify Written Data". and then left it until it finished.

10) after it finished, the disk popped out automatically.

11) I put the disk back in, and used Windows Explorer to see what was on it, and I saw the expected 4 files.

HTMan34
03-08-08, 08:31 PM
HTMan34
I think you missed the humor.
Yes, almost every BD and HDDVD comes with a 'please load new firmware' flyer.
What made it amusing is I just installed, what, the sixth firmware update, yesterday? And I skipped a couple firmwares.

Gotcha...:D

HTMan34
03-08-08, 08:33 PM
Seems Pioneer isn't really abandoning Kuro Plasma after all.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/08/pioneer-isnt-abandoning-kuro-plasma-expects-same-quality-panel/

Good news... the PRO-150FD is really the best screen I've ever had. I really hope they continue to elaborate this Kuro concept.

Good to hear. I figured that they would not just throw in the towel, looks like they are just having someone build the plasmas for them with all of their parts and technology.

madkaw
03-12-08, 06:13 AM
Watched Blazzin Saddles last night. have seen the movie a million times but it is so funny I had to buy it on Blu. PQ was pretty good for a movie made back in the 70's. Not a very politically correct movie but a good one for sure. Of course it played just like it was supposed to on the HD1.

NemoZorro
03-12-08, 02:43 PM
Watched Blazzin Saddles last night. have seen the movie a million times but it is so funny I had to buy it on Blu. PQ was pretty good for a movie made back in the 70's. Not a very politically correct movie but a good one for sure. Of course it played just like it was supposed to on the HD1.

I too love that movie. We got it free as an HD DVD with our A2 purchase, however it was one that I would have bought on BD (and still might!). Just about anything Mel Brooks or Chevy Chase (I know, sick, stupid humor).....

NemoZorro
03-12-08, 02:46 PM
Seems Pioneer isn't really abandoning Kuro Plasma after all.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/08/pioneer-isnt-abandoning-kuro-plasma-expects-same-quality-panel/

Good news... the PRO-150FD is really the best screen I've ever had. I really hope they continue to elaborate this Kuro concept.

OK, that is good news. I've been a bit down with some sun poisoning the last few days and have been rather sad at the prospect of no new true Pios. Seems silly to be sad over a television......Hopefully the same can and will be said of their BD offerings....

Chris, can you share any trade secrets here that will reassure us that Pio will remain in control, especially of their BD players? :)

BasementBob
03-13-08, 10:37 AM
No big surprise, I've been watching more BluRay than HDDVD lately - cause I tend to watch new DVDs more often than old ones, and while it's possible I might buy an HDDVD if something fantastic comes up, it is not likely.

Anyway, yesterday while about to watch "No country for old men [bluray]" I turned on the bdP-HD1 and after a few seconds it said "Loading". At which point I realized that I'd never removed "Hitman [bluray]". So I pushed Open (on the front of the BDP-HD1), and when it didn't open I pushed Open again. Well after a 10 second wait the drawer opened and closed and it said "Loading" again. Apparently it queues the Open button presses (I pushed it twice, so it closed). So I pushed Open (on the front of the BDP-HD1), and when it didn't open I pushed Open again. Well after a 10 second wait the drawer opened and closed and it said "Loading" again. Drat. Again. So i pushed Open just once more, and waited patiently. This time it opened and stayed open, and the closing drawer didn't try to eat my fingers as I tried to snatch the "hitman [bluray]" dvd out, and put "no country for old men" in.

Pretty good acting in "no country for old men". It never even occured to me that the irish girl was irish, and the spanish guy was spanish (or were they acting in the Bonus Features?).

HTMan34
03-13-08, 04:46 PM
No big surprise, I've been watching more BluRay than HDDVD lately - cause I tend to watch new DVDs more often than old ones, and while it's possible I might buy an HDDVD if something fantastic comes up, it is not likely.

Anyway, yesterday while about to watch "No country for old men [bluray]" I turned on the bdP-HD1 and after a few seconds it said "Loading". At which point I realized that I'd never removed "Hitman [bluray]". So I pushed Open (on the front of the BDP-HD1), and when it didn't open I pushed Open again. Well after a 10 second wait the drawer opened and closed and it said "Loading" again. Apparently it queues the Open button presses (I pushed it twice, so it closed). So I pushed Open (on the front of the BDP-HD1), and when it didn't open I pushed Open again. Well after a 10 second wait the drawer opened and closed and it said "Loading" again. Drat. Again. So i pushed Open just once more, and waited patiently. This time it opened and stayed open, and the closing drawer didn't try to eat my fingers as I tried to snatch the "hitman [bluray]" dvd out, and put "no country for old men" in.

Pretty good acting in "no country for old men". It never even occured to me that the irish girl was irish, and the spanish guy was spanish (or were they acting in the Bonus Features?).

I just rented that the other day, hopefully will watch it tonight. Watched Michael Clayton on BD last night, actually pretty good movie but the PQ was not impressive at all. I think the reason for the not so great PQ was partly director intended, grainy, kind of dark and dull picture.

Tolstoi
03-14-08, 07:52 AM
Pretty good acting in "no country for old men". It never even occured to me that the irish girl was irish, and the spanish guy was spanish (or were they acting in the Bonus Features?).

This one is scheduled for Saturday with I-Robot.:D

dr.pat
03-19-08, 06:44 PM
Just watched I Am legend...it’s really impressive. (Even if you have already seen it in theater)
Be careful the lossless track is in second position in the menu. Track one is the lousy 640kbps dolby digital.
I was so disappointed by the sound during the 5 first minutes of the movie that I did a codec checking (home menu -) video - yellow button) and it was indeed the lousy track.

Next will be enchanted;)

madkaw
03-19-08, 06:58 PM
Just watched I Am legend...it’s really impressive. (Even if you have already seen it in theater)
Be careful the lossless track is in second position in the menu. Track one is the lousy 640kbps dolby digital.
I was so disappointed by the sound during the 5 minutes of the movie that I did a codec checking (home menu -) video - yellow button) and it was indeed the lousy track. :mad

Next will be enchanted;)

I will agree, the last couple movies that we have watched are the best I have seen on BR.
I Am Legend and I Robot.

Tolstoi
03-20-08, 08:58 AM
I will agree, the last couple movies that we have watched are the best I have seen on BR.
I Am Legend and I Robot.

I Robot was just amazing:eek:

This weekend I have scheduled I Am Legend.

HTMan34
03-20-08, 09:17 AM
I Robot was just amazing:eek:

This weekend I have scheduled I Am Legend.

Guess I will be getting these now, I think you guys convinced me:D

HTMan34
03-20-08, 09:19 AM
Finished watching No Country for Old Men, We Own the Night, and Dan in Real Life. All good movies, pretty decent PQ.

madkaw
03-20-08, 12:39 PM
Finished watching No Country for Old Men, We Own the Night, and Dan in Real Life. All good movies, pretty decent PQ.

No Country for Old Men kind of reminds me of a Quentin Tarintino films.

dr.pat
03-20-08, 02:10 PM
Some catch up to do :p

Enchanted tonight.

en then
The host
No country
Appleseed ex machina
Jesse james

To finish with the amazon 50% sales
Aviator
Last samuray
Full metal jacket
2001

HTMan34
03-20-08, 04:09 PM
No Country for Old Men kind of reminds me of a Quentin Tarintino films.

It was actually pretty good, until the end, which I think was pretty stupid. I like the Atnon character, very good acting.

HTMan34
03-25-08, 04:14 PM
This thread really slowed down big time now that it is not a sticky anymore!

giomania
03-26-08, 11:14 AM
I guess when the player runs great, there is not much to say.

Mark

drhankz
03-26-08, 11:39 AM
I guess when the player runs great, there is not much to say.

Mark

That is the BOTTOM LINE.

We have all praised the player in the early pages,
now it is a known fact and all we can talk about
is the movies we watch and enjoy.

Of Course Mark :D You would enjoy them more if
you bought a new Pre/Pro :D

BasementBob
03-26-08, 08:37 PM
I was reading about the start/load/off times on the new player (beta, not for sale yet) by Walkamo in a sticky thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13474349&page=20).
Tempting for the upgrade.
As you may recall, I frequently sit down to watch movies while I eat dinner -- and as often as not with BluRay, I'm done eating before the movie starts.

Power On Time (Once power is hit, player boots and you can load a disc): 14 Secs
Disc Eject Time (While playing a disc, press eject and tray opens) 2 Secs
Power Off (While playing a disc hitting power) 1 Sec

HTMan34
03-26-08, 10:04 PM
I guess when the player runs great, there is not much to say.

Mark

Exactly! Looking forward to the 2.0 profile Elite player later this year. I am confident that it will be even better than the current Elite players with the same Pioneer support we are getting now.

HTMan34
03-26-08, 10:06 PM
That is the BOTTOM LINE.

We have all praised the player in the early pages,
now it is a known fact and all we can talk about
is the movies we watch and enjoy.

Of Course Mark :D You would enjoy them more if
you bought a new Pre/Pro :D

I miss the daily discussions on this thread. We need the new Elite players to come out soon:D

HTMan34
03-26-08, 10:07 PM
I was reading about the start/load/off times on the new player (beta, not for sale yet) by Walkamo in a sticky thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13474349&page=20).
Tempting for the upgrade.
As you may recall, I frequently sit down to watch movies while I eat dinner -- and as often as not with BluRay, I'm done eating before the movie starts.

Those are definitely some impressive times. Very close to SD-DVD.

BasementBob
03-26-08, 10:32 PM
Those are definitely some impressive times. Very close to SD-DVD.

My Oppo971's:: Time from off, plus me pushing the disk tray open button, plus the disk tray opening and ready for me to put a new disk in: 10 seconds.

MSmith83
03-26-08, 10:49 PM
My Oppo971's:: Time from off, plus me pushing the disk tray open button, plus the disk tray opening and ready for me to put a new disk in: 10 seconds.

My Oppo 980 also takes precisely 10 seconds to open its tray from power-off. My Denon DVD-2930 takes 11.5 seconds, and one of my Toshiba HD-A30s takes 43 seconds.

In terms of powering down into standby, the Oppo 980 takes 7 seconds, the Denon DVD-2930 is instantaneous, and the HD-A30 takes 10 seconds.

The times achieved so far by the upcoming Pioneer are indeed very, very impressive for an HD optical player.

Ptheman
03-26-08, 11:51 PM
schoolyard

"I am a new BDP-HD1 owner and an trying to download
firmware upgrade disc sent by Pioneer,I get wrt failed 6
message yet I can play any BD disc or SD disc,anyone have any clues,of course the upgrade is 3.70 and now there is a newer update-bad player or bad disc?Any help
would be great-I am a HD-DVD re-tread.Thanks"

I suggest that you download the latest firmware upgrade (3.75) and that you ensure that the iso image file you burn onto your disk contains both the number of files and file sizes specified in the firmware instructions prior to installing the firmware upgrade. In addition, if you expect there could be power interruptions during the upgrade process (even very short interruptions ... impending storm or during storm do not even think about doing the upgrade... the unit could end up being 'bricked'), wait until this threat is over before doing the upgrade. The upgrade should work fine with no 'error' messages.

ptheman

schoolyard
03-30-08, 01:20 PM
Well it seems I bought a unit from ebay that was a demo
unit and was not meant for retail sales.I tried everything and the player wont update,so I sent it to Pioneer in Long Beach 16 days ago,and Pioneer has sat on it since then,they wont tell me if they can or will update it,all I get is a run around that service is waiting for a sales mgr.to OK or deny any repair since it was a demo unit.I can get a refund from seller,but I want the player,I could have bought any brand player,but after reading here for a long while I looked for a HD1,I thought I found one so I bought it,I had no idea it was a demo.I own two other Pioneer Elite
avr's,and I don't understand why it takes so long and so much runaround from Pioneer to just update player.Pioneer keeps telling me they have not made a decision as to weather they will charge me or not,I have
been able to watch a grand total of one movie in 4 weeks of ownership.This is very frustrating as they paid to have my 74txvi to be updated & now this crap.

pjjnw
03-30-08, 05:26 PM
My player says cannot play this disc on the tv. The disc looks ok to me." 28 days of night" Anyone see this movie?
pj

HTMan34
03-30-08, 07:41 PM
My player says cannot play this disc on the tv. The disc looks ok to me." 28 days of night" Anyone see this movie?
pj

Have not tried playing this BD yet on my HD1, but I have gotten this message from trying to play otgher BD's. I usually just eject the disc and out it back in again, then let it reload again. It usually works. Worse case scenario would be to just power off the player all together and then try again...If this does not work then the disc could be either dirty or bad. If it is a rented disc give it a good clean with a soft cloth/tissue.

NemoZorro
04-01-08, 03:53 PM
Trouble, trouble, trouble - the last few BDs have just frozen and the audio is now out of sync and I'm really frustrated that this is April 1st and, oh, wait, April Fools!

Unit is flawless as usual. Saw Dan in Real Life and Enchanted. Both very good movies and good transfers. Played as usual, although I was a little disappointed that Enchanted did not have the usual uncompressed PCM audio option from Disney. However, it had TrueHD and it was very good as well.

Sorry Schoolyard about your situation. You can do the firmware upgrades yourself, and I believe if you start with the first one and do them in order they will even upgrade a demo unit, that is of course when you get it back. I have the firmwares archived if you need or want to try......

HTMan34
04-01-08, 04:38 PM
Trouble, trouble, trouble - the last few BDs have just frozen and the audio is now out of sync and I'm really frustrated that this is April 1st and, oh, wait, April Fools!

Unit is flawless as usual. Saw Dan in Real Life and Enchanted. Both very good movies and good transfers. Played as usual, although I was a little disappointed that Enchanted did not have the usual uncompressed PCM audio option from Disney. However, it had TrueHD and it was very good as well.

Sorry Schoolyard about your situation. You can do the firmware upgrades yourself, and I believe if you start with the first one and do them in order they will even upgrade a demo unit, that is of course when you get it back. I have the firmwares archived if you need or want to try......

I have to agree with you, this player is flawless!...He would only actually have to do the lastest FW update, they all contain the previous updates when a new one comes out.

NemoZorro
04-01-08, 04:47 PM
I have to agree with you, this player is flawless!...He would only actually have to do the lastest FW update, they all contain the previous updates when a new one comes out.

Good point, that would probably work.

I know Disney puts alot of extra stuff on their discs, some of which I like, but this player handles it fine - albeit a little slow on the Java but certainly faster than it used to be thanks to all the firmware updates.

Rob Tomlin
04-01-08, 05:47 PM
Trouble, trouble, trouble - the last few BDs have just frozen and the audio is now out of sync and I'm really frustrated that this is April 1st and, oh, wait, April Fools!



Good one! You may be the only person that actually "got me" on an April Fools joke today! :)

drhankz
04-02-08, 06:39 AM
Good one! You may be the only person that actually "got me" on an April Fools joke today! :)

My Bartender got me last night.

He gave me a $1127 Bar Bill :mad:

schoolyard
04-02-08, 09:18 AM
Now three weeks the player has been at Pioneer and no reply,the problem with the player is it wont except any firmware updates,it always says wrt.failed.Now waiting for
management to decide if they will fix player so it will except update,and they just keep running me around and say no decision has been made,three weeks of this.They upgraded my 74txvi for no charge and no questions,I don't
get it.

HTMan34
04-02-08, 10:53 AM
Good point, that would probably work.

I know Disney puts alot of extra stuff on their discs, some of which I like, but this player handles it fine - albeit a little slow on the Java but certainly faster than it used to be thanks to all the firmware updates.

Yes, this player is rock solid! The FW updates have been great and have helped out somewhat.

HTMan34
04-02-08, 10:54 AM
My Bartender got me last night.

He gave me a $1127 Bar Bill :mad:

That's a lot of drinks:eek:

HTMan34
04-02-08, 10:55 AM
Now three weeks the player has been at Pioneer and no reply,the problem with the player is it wont except any firmware updates,it always says wrt.failed.Now waiting for
management to decide if they will fix player so it will except update,and they just keep running me around and say no decision has been made,three weeks of this.They upgraded my 74txvi for no charge and no questions,I don't
get it.

Tell them to send the player back along with the 3.75 FW disc and just try doing it yourself again with the disc from Pioneer.

Rob Tomlin
04-02-08, 09:17 PM
My Bartender got me last night.

He gave me a $1127 Bar Bill :mad:

:eek:

NemoZorro
04-03-08, 11:21 AM
Good one! You may be the only person that actually "got me" on an April Fools joke today! :)

One of the radio stations here in Phoenix got into a bit of trouble over a "report" that our freeways were going to tolls effective on April 1st! It was pretty elaborate.

schoolyard
04-09-08, 09:51 PM
Well Pioneer really stepped up,today after one month of them having my player and no answer,Pioneer told me today that they would send me a BDP-95FD instead of fixing my HD-1A,I said ok and I hope I made the right move by saying yes,but kudos to Pioneer for this.

madkaw
04-09-08, 10:07 PM
Well Pioneer really stepped up,today after one month of them having my player and no answer,Pioneer told me today that they would send me a BDP-95FD instead of fixing my HD-1A,I said ok and I hope I made the right move by saying yes,but kudos to Pioneer for this.

Considering they are giving you the best player on the market, I would say yes you got a good deal.

Rob Tomlin
04-09-08, 10:19 PM
Well it seems I bought a unit from ebay that was a demo
unit and was not meant for retail sales.I tried everything and the player wont update,so I sent it to Pioneer in Long Beach 16 days ago,and Pioneer has sat on it since then,they wont tell me if they can or will update it,all I get is a run around that service is waiting for a sales mgr.to OK or deny any repair since it was a demo unit.I can get a refund from seller,but I want the player,I could have bought any brand player,but after reading here for a long while I looked for a HD1,I thought I found one so I bought it,I had no idea it was a demo.I own two other Pioneer Elite
avr's,and I don't understand why it takes so long and so much runaround from Pioneer to just update player.Pioneer keeps telling me they have not made a decision as to weather they will charge me or not,I have
been able to watch a grand total of one movie in 4 weeks of ownership.This is very frustrating as they paid to have my 74txvi to be updated & now this crap.

Well Pioneer really stepped up,today after one month of them having my player and no answer,Pioneer told me today that they would send me a BDP-95FD instead of fixing my HD-1A,I said ok and I hope I made the right move by saying yes,but kudos to Pioneer for this.

:eek:

So you buy a used unit off eBay, it's a DEMO unit not intended for retail sale, and Pioneer gives you a brand new 95 in exchange?!!?

:eek:

Yeah, you damn well better give Kudos to Pioneer for this! They very easily could have denied warranty repair under these circumstances.

madkaw
04-10-08, 06:16 AM
:eek:

So you buy a used unit off eBay, it's a DEMO unit not intended for retail sale, and Pioneer gives you a brand new 95 in exchange?!!?

:eek:

Yeah, you damn well better give Kudos to Pioneer for this! They very easily could have denied warranty repair under these circumstances.

The bottom line here is what pioneer continues to do for its customers...... Make them happy.

Rob Tomlin
04-10-08, 10:19 AM
The bottom line here is what pioneer continues to do for its customers...... Make them happy.

And in this situation, they went way above and beyond!

HTMan34
04-10-08, 10:54 AM
Well Pioneer really stepped up,today after one month of them having my player and no answer,Pioneer told me today that they would send me a BDP-95FD instead of fixing my HD-1A,I said ok and I hope I made the right move by saying yes,but kudos to Pioneer for this.

WOW! That is an awesome deal! Can I send my HD1 in for the new Elite player coming out soon? :D

HTMan34
04-10-08, 10:55 AM
The bottom line here is what pioneer continues to do for its customers...... Make them happy.

Seriously! Pioneer is definitely at the top when it comes to customer service and support, not to mention their top notch quality products that they contain to make!

NemoZorro
04-10-08, 11:09 AM
Did an Anne Hathaway weekend with Prada and Becoming Jane. Prada actually locked up, but I was able to turn the unit off with the remote. After inspecting the disc, I found a nasty piece of dust. Once removed, the disc played flawlessly.

Good movies by the way if you are in an Anne mood......

And yes Schoolyard, you got a good deal. Good job by Pio....

schoolyard
04-11-08, 12:32 PM
I know one thing for sure,I will buy other Pioneer products
in the future,I already own two elite avr's,and will continue
to buy more.I was not looking for anything but my unit repaired,so I am more then gratified at there deal.I am and was a Pioneer cust for life.

rudolpht
04-11-08, 07:00 PM
I'm going to get a SC09-TX to show my pleasure with Pio.

HTMan34
04-11-08, 08:39 PM
I'm going to get a SC09-TX to show my pleasure with Pio.

LOL...That is A LOT of appreciation, $8,000 worth!

HTMan34
04-11-08, 08:42 PM
I know one thing for sure,I will buy other Pioneer products
in the future,I already own two elite avr's,and will continue
to buy more.I was not looking for anything but my unit repaired,so I am more then gratified at there deal.I am and was a Pioneer cust for life.

Pioneer products and customer service/support are top notch! It doesn't hurt to have a bigwig from Pioneer on this forum providing great information for us either...Thumbs up to Pioneer and Chris!

NemoZorro
04-11-08, 08:44 PM
Pioneer products and customer service/support are top notch! It doesn't hurt to have a bigwig from Pioneer on this forum providing great information for us either...Thumbs up to Pioneer and Chris!

Ditto. I would like one of those $8,000 toys too, but something tells me I would be in the doghouse for a long time!

rudolpht
04-11-08, 08:58 PM
LOL...That is A LOT of appreciation, $8,000 worth!
Good products. Good service. And I had every Pio flagships since the from the D1S to the 59TXi days. Time to come home.

HTMan34
04-12-08, 10:20 AM
Ditto. I would like one of those $8,000 toys too, but something tells me I would be in the doghouse for a long time!

Yeah me too...but I guess my lowly Elite 82TXS will have to do for now:D

HTMan34
04-12-08, 10:21 AM
Good products. Good service. And I had every Pio flagships since the from the D1S to the 59TXi days. Time to come home.

That receiver is one awesome product!

rudolpht
04-12-08, 11:52 AM
That receiver is one awesome product!

Not to keep going off track, but the video should be worlds best based on Qdeo technology. Secrets best tech award of 07.

After the 59TXi I went the separates route. The Anthem was great when it worked but it didn't (for me). The Yamaha Z-11 had good sound, but bad video. The Onkyo has stupid upgrade policies. So I do want to come back to Pio, because they are customer focused and have great products.

RalphoR
04-12-08, 02:38 PM
I've had the BDP-HD1 since December 06 but I haven't chatted on this post. I love the thing so much I haven't jumped on the 94 or 95. I don't think I'll get the 05 coming out soon but I will jump on the first 2.0 piece or a flagship piece later in the year.

Tim...I'm with you on Elite loyalty. I have the 49TX with the iLink upgrade and have been very happy with it. I recently bought the 91TXH (for the HDMI) but it's hooked up to my 52XBR3 which is part of my SECOND set up. I want to keep the 49TX as my centerpiece. I do have to admit I've looked into the SC09-TX but I've come to the conclusion of getting a Classe SSP-800 in a few months to replace the 49TX instead. I can't justify $8,000 on a receiver (even a monster Elite one) when I already have the 91TXH to keep my Elite fix going. It was a tough choice but I'm moving to Classe for my flagship piece. I am staying with Pioneer Elite for my blu-ray player, for sure.

Ralph

rudolpht
04-12-08, 03:21 PM
Tim...I'm with you on Elite loyalty. I have the 49TX with the iLink upgrade and have been very happy with it. I recently bought the 91TXH (for the HDMI) but it's hooked up to my 52XBR3 which is part of my SECOND set up. I want to keep the 49TX as my centerpiece. I do have to admit I've looked into the SC09-TX but I've come to the conclusion of getting a Classe SSP-800 in a few months to replace the 49TX instead. I can't justify $8,000 on a receiver (even a monster Elite one) when I already have the 91TXH to keep my Elite fix going. It was a tough choice but I'm moving to Classe for my flagship piece. I am staying with Pioneer Elite for my blu-ray player, for sure.

Ralph

I loved my 49TX (still have it dormant on a shelf actually). The Classe stuff looks great. Personally I figured I couldn't go wrong with Anthem or other world class reps (I did go wrong), and my meandering is bringing me home. All the talk about the Denon AVP-A1HD/AVP-A1HDCI is killing me, but I'm shaking it off waiting for the SC09-TX.

It is still a crap shoot, and the initial user experiences, and likely need for early updates based on the complexity of HDMI & everything else, will tell the tale (hopefully soon).

In the mean time I just enjoyed Enchanted (It's a good movie believe it or not) and Adventures of Baron Münchhausen (which I always liked and now like better on Blu-ray) on my HD1.

When a profile 2.0 Elite comes out, I'll be there in a heartbeat.

RalphoR
04-12-08, 09:13 PM
Are you going to wait for 2.0 player or the flagship piece for your next blu-ray player? I think I'm going wait for the flagship piece that's the compliment for the SC09-TX. I believe that's due right around the same time as the 2.0 unit.

I'm wavering a bit about the Classe SSP-800 or the SC09-TX. The SC09-TX is due to hit any day now, I think. That's pretty tempting! There's something about that piano black look...

Ralph

rudolpht
04-12-08, 10:40 PM
Are you going to wait for 2.0 player or the flagship piece for your next blu-ray player? I think I'm going wait for the flagship piece that's the compliment for the SC09-TX. I believe that's due right around the same time as the 2.0 unit.

I'm wavering a bit about the Classe SSP-800 or the SC09-TX. The SC09-TX is due to hit any day now, I think. That's pretty tempting! There's something about that piano black look...

Ralph

Ralph,

Definitely waiting for the Pio Profile 2.0 before the HD1 gets demoted to the family room. I'll let you know how the SC09-TX turns out :) I'll be in the 1st wave....

HTMan34
04-13-08, 10:11 AM
Ralph,

Definitely waiting for the Pio Profile 2.0 before the HD1 gets demoted to the family room. I'll let you know how the SC09-TX turns out :) I'll be in the 1st wave....

I have the same plan...The HD1 will be kept in my theater until the 2.0 Elite comes out and then it will be moved over into the family room. Good luck with that awesome receiver!

RalphoR
04-14-08, 09:02 AM
Hey Tim,

I'm envious! I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the SC09-TX. The sound and picture should look awesome with the HD1. I never thought I'd get this much mileage out of the BDP-HD1! It's like the creature that just won't die :-)

Just a bit off track but is anyone interested in the new Kuro projector from Pioneer Elite? I'm not sure of the model number (9000 maybe?). It looks sweet and would be a killer combo with the SC09-TX and BDP-HD1.

Ralph

dr.pat
04-14-08, 05:59 PM
I have the same plan...The HD1 will be kept in my theater until the 2.0 Elite comes out and then it will be moved over into the family room. Good luck with that awesome receiver!

+1 The new Pioneer flagship 2.0 profile with sacd support will be the successor of my HD1.
I will buy a PS3 to check 2.0 interactivity and dts-master.
It will make me patiently wait for the polished 2.0 profile player Pio will put later this year on the market.

HTMan34
04-14-08, 06:56 PM
+1 The new Pioneer flagship 2.0 profile with sacd support will be the successor of my HD1.
I will buy a PS3 to check 2.0 interactivity and dts-master.
It will make me patiently wait for the polished 2.0 profile player Pio will put later this year on the market.

I am hoping that what Chris said about the price of this player is true. He mentined that the second player due out later this year would be priced a little bit higher than the 95FD.

RalphoR
04-19-08, 06:50 PM
I didn't see Chris' posts but I thought that there were three or four BDs that Pioneer was going to release this year:

the 95FD
the 05
a 2.0 player
and a flagship 2.0 player

Can anyone confirm or deny this? I'm waiting for the flagship, personally. I think that would be the rightful/deserving replacement for a great unit like the BDP-HD1

Ralph

rudolpht
04-19-08, 07:19 PM
Hey Tim,

I'm envious! I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the SC09-TX. The sound and picture should look awesome with the HD1. I never thought I'd get this much mileage out of the BDP-HD1! It's like the creature that just won't die :-)

Just a bit off track but is anyone interested in the new Kuro projector from Pioneer Elite? I'm not sure of the model number (9000 maybe?). It looks sweet and would be a killer combo with the SC09-TX and BDP-HD1.

Ralph

Ralph, I think the Kuro would be an excellent match. I'm running a 123" screen so it may take plasmas/LCDs a while to catch up (for a non-Saudi prince, anyway) :)

I too will be going for the Flagship Profile 2.0 then demote the HD1 to the family room (where my 49TXi is working great).

drhankz
04-19-08, 09:09 PM
Ralph, I think the Kuro would be an excellent match. I'm running a 123" screen

Only 123"?????

156" here :)

rudolpht
04-19-08, 10:31 PM
Only 123"?????

156" here :)

156" Plasma, now that's ... :o

There is always a bigger fish :) :)

Actually I would have gone bigger, but that was the biggest silverstar and I would have had to build a bigger bulkhead :o

I do look enviously at the new Stewart Cinecurve's though....

drhankz
04-20-08, 06:48 AM
I would have had to build a bigger bulkhead :o
.

My Screen came un-assembled.

Yours Came Assembled - I have not heard of that.

rudolpht
04-20-08, 10:13 AM
My Screen came un-assembled.

Yours Came Assembled - I have not heard of that.

It was big and I could have built a multi-stall outhouse with all the plywood. a sight to behold. Maybe the Silverstar is unique.

HTMan34
04-20-08, 11:23 AM
I didn't see Chris' posts but I thought that there were three or four BDs that Pioneer was going to release this year:

the 95FD
the 05
a 2.0 player
and a flagship 2.0 player

Can anyone confirm or deny this? I'm waiting for the flagship, personally. I think that would be the rightful/deserving replacement for a great unit like the BDP-HD1

Ralph


Chris mentioned a couple of months back that there will be 2 players this year, the 05FD (1.1 profile player) and a 2.0 profile player due out later on this year, probably in the fall sometime. As far as price, he mentioned that 1 player would be less than the 95FD and the other would be a little more than the 95FD, probably around $800 for the 05FD and $1100 or so for the 2.0 profile player. That is all the players announced so far, then of course there will be 2 European variants of these 2 same players, so I guess you could say that there will be 4 players out this year. Personally I hope they do not come out with a ridiculously priced player, say in the few thousand dollar range, the 05FD with a 2.0 profile would be the perfect player!

RalphoR
04-21-08, 08:59 PM
HTMan34....I agree. I don't want to pay a premium for an Elite flagship player but they do such a great job with their flagships and they stay current for quite a bit of time. Anyone remember the DV-09? That beast lasted me six years, even with the chroma bug :D

I still think a flagship BD/DVD/SACD/DVD-A/iLink unit is in the works to pair with the SC09-TX and the new Kuro projector. Talk about a premium :eek:

Ralph

RalphoR
04-21-08, 09:01 PM
:eek: a 156" or 123" screen? Mine is just 110". I think I have screen-is envy ;)

Ralph

Rob Tomlin
04-21-08, 09:20 PM
I still think a flagship BD/DVD/SACD/DVD-A/iLink unit is in the works to pair with the SC09-TX and the new Kuro projector. Talk about a premium :eek:

Ralph

I hope so. That's the one I am waiting for! :cool:

:eek: a 156" or 123" screen? Mine is just 110". I think I have screen-is envy ;)

Ralph

I guess I'm just average, as mine is 123". ;)

drhankz
04-21-08, 09:22 PM
I hope so. That's the one I am waiting for! :cool:



I guess I'm just average, as mine is 123". ;)

Ya Baby - you have to have at least 123" :D

HTMan34
04-22-08, 10:29 AM
HTMan34....I agree. I don't want to pay a premium for an Elite flagship player but they do such a great job with their flagships and they stay current for quite a bit of time. Anyone remember the DV-09? That beast lasted me six years, even with the chroma bug :D

I still think a flagship BD/DVD/SACD/DVD-A/iLink unit is in the works to pair with the SC09-TX and the new Kuro projector. Talk about a premium :eek:

Ralph

I agree, their flagships are amazing, as well as their whole Elite line. I just think at some point it becomes kind of overkill, and you are then paying for something that is bascially the same as their cheaper Elite players.

HTMan34
04-22-08, 10:30 AM
Ya Baby - you have to have at least 123" :D

I guess I am well below average than with my 50" plasma:eek:

dr.pat
04-23-08, 07:27 PM
I guess I am well below average than with my 50" plasma:eek:

Same here, my 60" Kuro pro-150FD is out of competition :confused:

HTMan34
04-24-08, 10:02 AM
Same here, my 60" Kuro pro-150FD is out of competition :confused:

How do you like the Kuro? I am thinking about getting the 50" PDP 5010FD this summer, they have some great deals on them, to replace my Philips 50" plasma. The Philips will be moved into the den, along with the HD1, once the 2.0 profile Elite BD player comes out later this year.

rudolpht
04-24-08, 10:04 AM
A Kuro + a BDP + an SC09-TX still gets into the exclusive club. :)

NemoZorro
04-24-08, 02:43 PM
How do you like the Kuro? I am thinking about getting the 50" PDP 5010FD this summer, they have some great deals on them, to replace my Philips 50" plasma. The Philips will be moved into the den, along with the HD1, once the 2.0 profile Elite BD player comes out later this year.

We have a 150 and LOVE it! It is paired with the HD1 now but is waiting for the 05....

dr.pat
04-24-08, 03:17 PM
How do you like the Kuro? I am thinking about getting the 50" PDP 5010FD this summer, they have some great deals on them, to replace my Philips 50" plasma. The Philips will be moved into the den, along with the HD1, once the 2.0 profile Elite BD player comes out later this year.

Pure Joy!!! Really incredible screen.
Until now, I've never seen any better.

The pro150-FD is plugged on a denon avr-4308 and the HD1 will be in charge until a Pioneer 2.0 profile arrives.
Really happy with the 3 components. I can only recommend the Kuro, not one flaw detected in 7 months of service.

HTMan34
04-25-08, 10:51 AM
Pure Joy!!! Really incredible screen.
Until now, I've never seen any better.

The pro150-FD is plugged on a denon avr-4308 and the HD1 will be in charge until a Pioneer 2.0 profile arrives.
Really happy with the 3 components. I can only recommend the Kuro, not one flaw detected in 7 months of service.

That is what I figured! Thanks, now I want to go out and buy one:D...I too am waiting for a 2.0 Elite to replace my HD1 and move it into the den. Can't wait

dr.pat
04-27-08, 05:06 PM
We finally have some official specifications for the 1.1 profile. (european BDP-LX71 = BDP-05FD)

http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/content/press/news/bdplx71.html

No exact specifications for the BDP-LX91, but it seems to be the model we are waiting for.

Profile 2.0
Decode All Audio Formats
SACD/DVD-A Support
Release at end of year at approx 2000 Euros :p

HTMan34
04-28-08, 09:19 AM
We finally have some official specifications for the 1.1 profile. (european BDP-LX71 = BDP-05FD)

http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/content/press/news/bdplx71.html

No exact specifications for the BDP-LX91, but it seems to be the model we are waiting for.

Profile 2.0
Decode All Audio Formats
SACD/DVD-A Support
Release at end of year at approx 2000 Euros :p

Cool, thanks for the info. Can't wait for the 2.0 profile player, hopefully it will be a little bit cheaper, not really looking forward to another $1500 or more player.

drhankz
04-28-08, 09:56 AM
Cool, thanks for the info. Can't wait for the 2.0 profile player, hopefully it will be a little bit cheaper, not really looking forward to another $1500 or more player.

I COULD BE WRONG - But didn't Chris
already say that European info was WRONG.

BTW - I'm already enjoying my $299 Profile 2 Player.

uw69
04-28-08, 10:17 AM
I COULD BE WRONG - But didn't Chris
already say that European info was WRONG.

BTW - I'm already enjoying my $299 Profile 2 Player.

Drhankz, your using a PS3 these days?:)

drhankz
04-28-08, 10:19 AM
Drhankz, your using a PS3 these days?:)

I still have the Pioneer and I added a PS3 - Yes.

HTMan34
04-29-08, 09:54 AM
I COULD BE WRONG - But didn't Chris
already say that European info was WRONG.

BTW - I'm already enjoying my $299 Profile 2 Player.

I know Chris did say that the pictures and the information about the European player that was floating around on AVS that had the big LCD display on the front panel that was supposed to be expensive was definitely not true. He said that he knew all the players that were being released this year and that was not one of them. He said that there was supposed to be 2players in the US this year, the 05FD, being a little less than the 95FD and another one, that will be a 2.0 player with a price a little more than the 95FD.

drhankz
04-29-08, 10:00 AM
I know Chris did say that the pictures and the information about the European player that was floating around on AVS that had the big LCD display on the front panel that was supposed to be expensive was definitely not true. He said that he knew all the players that were being released this year and that was not one of them. He said that there was supposed to be 2players in the US this year, the 05FD, being a little less than the 95FD and another one, that will be a 2.0 player with a price a little more than the 95FD.

OK ;)

dr.pat
05-09-08, 06:30 PM
I still have the Pioneer and I added a PS3 - Yes.

I will do exactly the same ....buy a PS3 for the 1.1, 2.0 and dts-master titles and wait for Pioneer to release a nice 2.0 flagship player. ;)

drhankz
05-10-08, 06:55 AM
I will do exactly the same ....buy a PS3 for the 1.1, 2.0 and dts-master titles and wait for Pioneer to release a nice 2.0 flagship player. ;)

It does get you a 2.0 Player 6 months sooner ;)

HTMan34
05-10-08, 10:56 AM
It does get you a 2.0 Player 6 months sooner ;)

Have you tried any BD-Live BD's yet?

dr.pat
05-10-08, 01:35 PM
It does get you a 2.0 Player 6 months sooner ;)

Probably not so good as the flagship player Pioneer will put on the market.
But your are right, I also think it will be released in november, december...

...and widely available in January (if you don't know Jeff):p

HTMan34
05-10-08, 02:46 PM
Probably not so good as the flagship player Pioneer will put on the market.
But your are right, I also think it will be released in november, december...

...and widely available in January (if you don't know Jeff):p

I think all of us here that own HD1's are waiting for this 2.0 profile Elite player!

drhankz
05-10-08, 03:02 PM
Have you tried any BD-Live BD's yet?

I wish I knew HOW to use profile 2.0 Features.

There are only a few movies with 2.0 and I
tried them - but I honestly don't know what
buttons to push to activate the 2.0 features.

I'll have to spend some more time when I'm
not laying on the beach :p

dr.pat
05-10-08, 05:53 PM
I think all of us here that own HD1's are waiting for this 2.0 profile Elite player!

It's the most logical choice. We have an excellent player, we have little to gain with a temporary upgrade. The 2.0 is here to stay like HDMI 1.3
I could always be wrong, but I really think 2.0 is the one to get.
SA-CD is also a real plus for me as a big fan of classical music. (with a respectable collection of SA-CD)
Special tweaking for Kuro plasma is the cherry on the top.