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HTMan34 12-19-08, 10:10 AM Yes, thanks for the update on the update! Still loving this player....:
Agree with you 100%! This is my player to keep in my theater until something comes along from Pioneer that will force it into another room and replaced!
SimonCHAN 12-20-08, 09:24 AM Unfortunately :mad:, after upgraded to 3.87, it won’t load Chungking Express.
SimonCHAN
BasementBob 12-20-08, 11:55 AM Watched: Death Race BluRay
No problems.
Firmware: 3.85
Ray Cathode 12-20-08, 06:30 PM I installed 3.87 with no problems. Planet Terror disc 1 still will not play. I have emailed Chris as he requested and will let you guys know when I receive any word back from him. With the Holidays, it may be a bit.
The HD1 will display "Load" on the front panel and on the screen but locks up after spinning up. One must manually remove the disc and reboot the machine to unlock it.
Merry Christmas all and thank you Chris qnd Pioneer... if you are reading this! Pioneer and Chris have earned my business for ALL of my home theater and audio needs... including a soon to be made purchase of a Pro 151FD 60" Elite Plasma. They excel with their products and people!
Ray
BasementBob 12-21-08, 12:56 AM Watched: Traitor BluRay
No problems.
Firmware: 3.85
I thought it held together well.
rudolpht 12-21-08, 07:28 PM Prince Caspian played great tonight (now that I have a panel in the Family room with HDMI).
No problem (just slow to load :o)
Firmware: 3.87
HTMan34 12-21-08, 08:00 PM I installed 3.87 with no problems. Planet Terror disc 1 still will not play. I have emailed Chris as he requested and will let you guys know when I receive any word back from him. With the Holidays, it may be a bit.
The HD1 will display "Load" on the front panel and on the screen but locks up after spinning up. One must manually remove the disc and reboot the machine to unlock it.
Merry Christmas all and thank you Chris qnd Pioneer... if you are reading this! Pioneer and Chris have earned my business for ALL of my home theater and audio needs... including a soon to be made purchase of a Pro 151FD 60" Elite Plasma. They excel with their products and people!
Ray
Is this a purchased BD or a rental? I find it odd that there are still BD's here and there that still will not play on all players! I am confident that Pioneer/Chris will take care of this issue ASAP...I agree, Pioneer has earned all of home theater business as well, including like yourself a Kuro plasma in a few months to replace my existing plasma in my theater. They are top notch and their customer support is excellent! Merry Christmas to you and your family as well and to all of AVS :)
HTMan34 12-21-08, 08:02 PM Dark Knight player great the other night, decent load speeds, excellent PQ/AQ. I played it running FW 3.85 then upgraded to 3.87 the other day when it was released.
BasementBob 12-31-08, 04:22 PM Watched Babylon AD BluRay
No problems.
Firmware 3.85
Watched WallE BluRay again
Hung in 2 spots. (power off, insert disk, fast forward to stop point, continue watching).
It was agreed by all my guests that BluRay is the best format except for watching movies.
BasementBob 01-02-09, 12:38 AM Watched Burn After Reading BluRay
Watched Righteous Kill BluRay
No problems.
Firmware 3.85
HTMan34 01-02-09, 04:17 PM Watched Burn After Reading BluRay
Watched Righteous Kill BluRay
No problems.
Firmware 3.85
How did Righteous Kill look/sound? Saw this one in the theaters, I will pick it up next week.
BasementBob 01-06-09, 12:57 PM How did Righteous Kill look/sound? Saw this one in the theaters, I will pick it up next week.
I don't remember. It seemed ok.
Watched Bangkok Dangerous BluRay
No problems.
Firmware 3.85
Video: lots of digital noise (low intensity snow). [BDP-HD1 -> Pioneer FHD1 plasma]
drhankz 01-14-09, 07:58 AM Are all the Pioneer Fans here jumping up and down about
the New Pioneer Blu-Ray Players announced at CES?
Is it time to trade in our BDP-HD1 :D
Lets at least Give Pioneer a WAVE http://charles-song.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/partywave.gif
Rob Tomlin 01-14-09, 09:48 AM Are all the Pioneer Fans here jumping up and down about
the New Pioneer Blu-Ray Players announced at CES?
Is it time to trade in our BDP-HD1 :D
Lets at least Give Pioneer a WAVE http://charles-song.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/partywave.gif
drhankz, you need to make up your mind: are those WAVE guys from Anthem or Pioneer?
;)
HTMan34 01-14-09, 10:36 AM Are all the Pioneer Fans here jumping up and down about
the New Pioneer Blu-Ray Players announced at CES?
Is it time to trade in our BDP-HD1 :D
Lets at least Give Pioneer a WAVE http://charles-song.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/partywave.gif
I have been waiting to replace my HD1 in my theater with another Pioneer Blu-ray player, but decided to wait until something came along that was full functioned and was a decent price. The 23FD looks like that player for me. I am still a little hesitant, especially with all the "issues" that the 05/51 players are having. I most likely will make the leap and purchase a 23FD in April/May when they are released, as long as the 05/51 models are straightened out before the release of the new players. I briefly considered the 09FD, but I can not justify paying $2200 for a player that has a ton of features that I don't need and will never use (too much analog audio stuff). The 23FD looks to be a scaled down version of the 09FD, without all the high-end analog features and minus some of the heavy-duty circuitry. Hopefully we can gets some reviews before the new models are released, perhaps from some people here that might obtain an early model or from some magazine publications. Either way, once the HD1 is moved out of my theater, I am still planning on keeping it and just moving to my bedroom or into another room (Rock solid player!).
drhankz 01-14-09, 12:35 PM drhankz, you need to make up your mind: are those WAVE guys from Anthem or Pioneer?
;)
Hi Rob
I think they are adult appropriate for EITHER [GRIN]!
Actually if you need to KNOW?
I stole them from the PS3 Blu-Ray Player Owners Thread.
Now why did you force me to admit my source :D
drhankz 01-14-09, 12:39 PM I have been waiting to replace my HD1 in my theater with another Pioneer Blu-ray player, but decided to wait until something came along that was full functioned and was a decent price. The 23FD looks like that player for me. I am still a little hesitant, especially with all the "issues" that the 05/51 players are having. I most likely will make the leap and purchase a 23FD in April/May when they are released, as long as the 05/51 models are straightened out before the release of the new players. I briefly considered the 09FD, but I can not justify paying $2200 for a player that has a ton of features that I don't need and will never use (too much analog audio stuff). The 23FD looks to be a scaled down version of the 09FD, without all the high-end analog features and minus some of the heavy-duty circuitry. Hopefully we can gets some reviews before the new models are released, perhaps from some people here that might obtain an early model or from some magazine publications. Either way, once the HD1 is moved out of my theater, I am still planning on keeping it and just moving to my bedroom or into another room (Rock solid player!).
It looks like the BDP-320 does the same stuff for $200 less than the 23 ;)
HTMan34 01-14-09, 05:54 PM It looks like the BDP-320 does the same stuff for $200 less than the 23 ;)
Yeah I noticed that too. I wanted to get another Elite player, really just to match my AVR which is an Elite as well.
drhankz 01-14-09, 08:58 PM Yeah I noticed that too. I wanted to get another Elite player, really just to match my AVR which is an Elite as well.
The Elite need to be Elite http://charles-song.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/partywave.gif
Good Luck with it :D
BasementBob 01-15-09, 02:31 AM Looks like this is soon to become a "what did I buy next thread".
Nevertheless
Watched Eagle Eye BluRay
No problems
Firmware 3.85
I liked it. Amazon.com gives it mixed reviews.
The voice is Julianne Moore.
drhankz 01-15-09, 07:54 AM Looks like this is soon to become a "what did I buy next thread".
Nevertheless
Watched Eagle Eye BluRay
No problems
Firmware 3.85
I liked it. Amazon.com gives it mixed reviews.
The voice is Julianne Moore.
We are finally at the Stage where more than one vendor has Profile 2.0
Players so it is time to think about - WHAT NEXT.
I'm not aware anyone is working on Profile 3.0 - so many it is time to
talk about What Next ;)
NemoZorro 01-15-09, 11:16 AM I have been waiting to replace my HD1 in my theater with another Pioneer Blu-ray player, but decided to wait until something came along that was full functioned and was a decent price. The 23FD looks like that player for me. I am still a little hesitant, especially with all the "issues" that the 05/51 players are having. I most likely will make the leap and purchase a 23FD in April/May when they are released, as long as the 05/51 models are straightened out before the release of the new players. I briefly considered the 09FD, but I can not justify paying $2200 for a player that has a ton of features that I don't need and will never use (too much analog audio stuff). The 23FD looks to be a scaled down version of the 09FD, without all the high-end analog features and minus some of the heavy-duty circuitry. Hopefully we can gets some reviews before the new models are released, perhaps from some people here that might obtain an early model or from some magazine publications. Either way, once the HD1 is moved out of my theater, I am still planning on keeping it and just moving to my bedroom or into another room (Rock solid player!).
My opinion here, but I think that many of the "issues" of the 51/05 players were a bit overblown. Especially now, with the current firmware, the 05 is really a stable player. The only problem I had was with For Your Eyes Only, but that was resolved with a firmware update.
They do have the 1st gen BD-ROM drives (actually the 2nd gen as our HD1s have the 1st Pio drives) and that is probably the cause of some of the SD DVD issues.
Anyway, I guess experiences vary, and I believe that the majority of the owners have had little or no trouble. The vocal minority (I'm not bashing here, it is important to have bugs listed, problems reported, etc) seem to have knocked these players down a few pegs below what they really are.
2 pennies rolling in on the table.....:)
HTMan34 01-15-09, 07:52 PM The Elite need to be Elite http://charles-song.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/partywave.gif
Good Luck with it :D
LOL! I am not usually one to replace things very quickly, so I figure might as well get the best that is available. We will see what happens though, might buy it right away or might even wait for some reviews to come out first.
HTMan34 01-15-09, 07:54 PM We are finally at the Stage where more than one vendor has Profile 2.0
Players so it is time to think about - WHAT NEXT.
I'm not aware anyone is working on Profile 3.0 - so many it is time to
talk about What Next ;)
I had heard that they are working on profile 3.0 only players, and then even car and portable players that are 3.0 profile only. I would love to pruchase a car Blu-ray player that would play BR-Audio discs, would sound very nice in the car, especially in my new '10 Camaro SS that I ordered!
HTMan34 01-15-09, 07:56 PM My opinion here, but I think that many of the "issues" of the 51/05 players were a bit overblown. Especially now, with the current firmware, the 05 is really a stable player. The only problem I had was with For Your Eyes Only, but that was resolved with a firmware update.
They do have the 1st gen BD-ROM drives (actually the 2nd gen as our HD1s have the 1st Pio drives) and that is probably the cause of some of the SD DVD issues.
Anyway, I guess experiences vary, and I believe that the majority of the owners have had little or no trouble. The vocal minority (I'm not bashing here, it is important to have bugs listed, problems reported, etc) seem to have knocked these players down a few pegs below what they really are.
2 pennies rolling in on the table.....:)
I do agree with you, the issues were blown out of proportion, but if I am going to replace my HD1, then I want something that is going to last me for a while with little or no issues right away, since my HD1 has and still is rock solid.
drhankz 01-15-09, 08:06 PM I had heard that they are working on profile 3.0 only players, and then even car and portable players that are 3.0 profile only. I would love to pruchase a car Blu-ray player that would play BR-Audio discs, would sound very nice in the car, especially in my new '10 Camaro SS that I ordered!
I have had the 1st Profile 2.0 player even before they did the FW
update to enable - more than a year now.
I can honestly say I have never ever used any Profile 2.0 feature.
I want to watch a movie not PLAY doing other things.
BasementBob 01-15-09, 10:01 PM Next Player Wish List
- fast load times
- very very fast response to buttons (fast forward, next, and other navigation). I should be able to put in a disk and play any interesting scene, without the someone I'm showing it too getting bored and leaving.
- doesn't hang
- support for all audio formats
- doesn't force stop/reload if hdmi signal is lost (firmware 3.0 or so fixed that)
- rock solid video
- rock solid audio
In short
- a player that I can use to show movies to my friends without embarassment
- a player that loads a BluRay disk and starts a movie faster than it takes me to sit down and eat my entire dinner. I don't mean gets me to the first advertisement or loads -- I mean Starts The Movie. That's what I bought the thing for.
And now back to our regularly scheduled program...
Watched Swing Vote BluRay
No Problems.
Firmware 3.85
Movie review: nothing special
HTMan34 01-16-09, 06:44 PM I have had the 1st Profile 2.0 player even before they did the FW
update to enable - more than a year now.
I can honestly say I have never ever used any Profile 2.0 feature.
I want to watch a movie not PLAY doing other things.
I agree, I really could not care less about BD-live features or really any features/extras for that matter.
Rob Tomlin 01-16-09, 06:55 PM I agree, I really could not care less about BD-live features or really any features/extras for that matter.
Well, I agree about 96% of the time.
However, there are some great/classic movies where I really love the extra features.
The most recent example for Blu ray (perhaps the ONLY examply, actually) is Blade Runner. The extra features on that set are great. But the movie needs to be great too, or the extra features are pretty meaningless to me.
Blade Runner is such a cult classic, and there is so much controversy surrounding it's making, that the extra features have plenty of interesting subjects to cover.
I still worry that BD-Live will be used as little more than a marketing tool to sell us more crap. :(
drhankz 01-17-09, 07:35 AM I agree, I really could not care less about BD-live features or really any features/extras for that matter.
Then any upgrade from the BDP-HD1 to something newer will
only get you two features that count - Faster Load times and
DTS-HD decoding.
HTMan34 01-17-09, 09:20 AM Well, I agree about 96% of the time.
However, there are some great/classic movies where I really love the extra features.
The most recent example for Blu ray (perhaps the ONLY examply, actually) is Blade Runner. The extra features on that set are great. But the movie needs to be great too, or the extra features are pretty meaningless to me.
Blade Runner is such a cult classic, and there is so much controversy surrounding it's making, that the extra features have plenty of interesting subjects to cover.
I still worry that BD-Live will be used as little more than a marketing tool to sell us more crap. :(
I have watched some extras, but for the most part to me they are just useless, especially when they include a separate disc just for the extras. BD-Live would be cool to check out and see what it is all about, but I am guessing that I will not really be all that interested in it. I am sure you right about it being a marketing tool somewhere in the future. Things will start out as being free and then things will probably cost, like trailers and video clips.
HTMan34 01-17-09, 09:22 AM Then any upgrade from the BDP-HD1 to something newer will
only get you two features that count - Faster Load times and
DTS-HD decoding.
I am not interested in BD-Live, but it would nice to have a player with it "just in case" in the future. I figure if I am replacing the HD1 after a bunch of other players have come out, then I might as well have "everything" in my next player. I am really just looking for a solid player that has DTS-MA and faster loading times, those are 2 main concerns.
Walkamo 01-29-09, 04:38 PM Hi Everyone,
New firmware (Ver. 3.88) should be up by tomorrow....
Thanks,
Chris
HTMan34 01-29-09, 07:10 PM Hi Everyone,
New firmware (Ver. 3.88) should be up by tomorrow....
Thanks,
Chris
Thanks for the info Chris. Any info on what this update addresses?
tackforce 01-30-09, 06:00 PM Installed 3.88 Firmware update. I watched Wall-E Blu Ray with no more hung up problem.Great to enjoy movie again. Thank you Pioneer.
HTMan34 01-30-09, 08:54 PM Just downloaded and installed FW update 3.88. Will watch tonight to see if anything is different.
HTMan34 01-30-09, 08:58 PM Watched My Best Friends Girl last night. Played great on the HD1, no issues. PQ was good, not great. Very dirty movie, but VERY funny, highly recommended!
BasementBob 02-01-09, 03:44 AM Watched Saw V
No problems.
Firmware 3.88 (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Support/HomeEntertainment/Blu-rayDisc+DVD/EliteBlu-rayDiscPlayers/ci.BDP-HD1.Support?tab=B)
Ray Cathode 02-01-09, 08:16 AM Thank you Chris... you are da man and Pioneer is THE COMPANY! This is exactly why I will buy (only) a new 60inch Pioneer Elite Plasma and a new Pioneer receiver this year.
Your support and response is outstanding and this HD1 just keeps getting better with each firmware release. I am happy to report that 3.88 indeed allows Grind House Planet Terror to load and play without a hitch... and it seems to load java now at faster speeds than before.
When you actually come out with a fully equipped Elite player in the class of this HD1... I'll buy that too! Thanks to all the guys at Pioneer that work so hard for us with little praise... we appreciate and thank you more than you can know!
Ray
HTMan34 02-01-09, 09:42 AM Thank you Chris... you are da man and Pioneer is THE COMPANY! This is exactly why I will buy (only) a new 60inch Pioneer Elite Plasma and a new Pioneer receiver this year.
Your support and response is outstanding and this HD1 just keeps getting better with each firmware release. I am happy to report that 3.88 indeed allows Grind House Planet Terror to load and play without a hitch... and it seems to load java now at faster speeds than before.
When you actually come out with a fully equipped Elite player in the class of this HD1... I'll buy that too! Thanks to all the guys at Pioneer that work so hard for us with little praise... we appreciate and thank you more than you can know!
Ray
I agree 100% with you! I will too be purchasing a Kuro plasma this year as well. I still am amazed that at over 2 years old this player still seems to keep getting better with each FW update. I am considering purchasing the 23FD, but of course keeping my HD1 and moving it to my bedroom...And I also agree, Chris/Pioneer are both world class!
NemoZorro 02-05-09, 03:41 PM I agree 100% with you! I will too be purchasing a Kuro plasma this year as well. I still am amazed that at over 2 years old this player still seems to keep getting better with each FW update. I am considering purchasing the 23FD, but of course keeping my HD1 and moving it to my bedroom...And I also agree, Chris/Pioneer are both world class!
Well said; thanks Chris and Pioneer! :)
drhankz 02-07-09, 07:40 AM I agree 100% with you! I will too be purchasing a Kuro plasma this year as well. !
I don't THINK SO :mad:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1117484
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10158724-92.html
Walkamo 02-18-09, 09:11 PM Hi Everyone,
I am please to announce that we have added the ability to upgrade the firmware for the BDP-HD1 and BDP-94HD... The instructions have been posted onto the support section for each model.. It is a different procedure from the BDP-95FD and the BDP-09FD....
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Support/HomeEntertainment/Blu-rayDisc+DVD/EliteBlu-rayDiscPlayers/ci.BDP-HD1.Support?tab=B
Enjoy...
Chris
HTMan34 02-19-09, 09:22 AM Hi Everyone,
I am please to announce that we have added the ability to upgrade the firmware for the BDP-HD1 and BDP-94HD... The instructions have been posted onto the support section for each model.. It is a different procedure from the BDP-95FD and the BDP-09FD....
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Support/HomeEntertainment/Blu-rayDisc+DVD/EliteBlu-rayDiscPlayers/ci.BDP-HD1.Support?tab=B
Enjoy...
Chris
Wow, good stuff! Thanks Chris. Now I don't have to keep buying DVD-R's!
NemoZorro 02-26-09, 04:18 PM Hi Everyone,
I am please to announce that we have added the ability to upgrade the firmware for the BDP-HD1 and BDP-94HD... The instructions have been posted onto the support section for each model.. It is a different procedure from the BDP-95FD and the BDP-09FD....
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Support/HomeEntertainment/Blu-rayDisc+DVD/EliteBlu-rayDiscPlayers/ci.BDP-HD1.Support?tab=B
Enjoy...
Chris
Wow; I missed this. Thanks Chris!
HTMan34 02-26-09, 06:35 PM Wow; I missed this. Thanks Chris!
I tried this the other night, couldn't get it to work after following the instructions. I haven't had a chance to try it again. I will have to try it again and see what happens.
RalphoR 02-26-09, 10:01 PM I'm so happy Pioneer is still giving the HD1 such top support. Thanks, Chris! The web updates are a great idea but I'm kind of leaning towards upgrading to another unit. I almost bit on the 05....have been intrigued by the 09....but will most likely look into the 23FD or the next generation units. I can't believe how much mileage I've gotten out of the HD1. It will be a sad day when I sell it.
Wonderful support indeed.
New functionalities when the product is already at 2 years in its life cycle. That's simply amazing.
I was so disappointed that Pioneer had nothing to offer during this Christmas season. I end up buying a sony bdp-S550 and a PS3 to test dts-master and 2.0.
Like everybody here with a brand new receiver, I was not convinced by the BDP-09FD (not a player for the HDMI guys like us).
The 23FD seems to go in the good direction.
I'm at the moment more attracted by the Denon universal DVD-A1. Unfortunately with the bad economic conjuncture the chance that Pionner put a universal player on the market are nearly nonexistent. Believe me I love Pioneer and I would buy it immediately.
BasementBob 03-11-09, 01:48 AM Watched Punisher 2: War Zone (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001QB9H2E)
No problems.
Watched Transporter 3 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001QB9H1K)
No problems.
About 17 minutes in I had to pause for 20 minutes, and when I came back I pushed PLAY and it ran for a few seconds and then stopped. I had to reload (complete with LOADING, and skipping past the previews to get to the menu). [Although I'm pretty sure I pushed PLAY, I'm willing to entertain the possibility I pushed STOP -- in which case it did exactly what I told it to do. :) ]
BasementBob 04-02-09, 09:40 PM Watched "The Day the Earth Stood Still"
No problems.
(Lots of subwoofer)
drhankz 04-03-09, 06:23 AM Watched "The Day the Earth Stood Still"
No problems.
(Lots of subwoofer)
Mr. SHOW OFF http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif
You always get the MOVIES TOO EARLY ;)
BasementBob 04-03-09, 08:00 AM drhankz:
A couple days, no big deal. Sometimes I get them weeks after everyone else. :o It averages out I suppose.
The reason I post is because I'm in the habit now of previewing movies to ensure that they function, before inviting friends and family to watch. It's a huge time waster, and kind of sad really. So I'm trying to reduce readers of this thread's anxiety about upcoming bluray title purchases, and let others take the risk of their first showing being with someone else in the room.
It's also why I tend to post simply that the disk worked or not, rather than a review.
drhankz 04-03-09, 08:14 AM It's also why I tend to post simply that the disk worked or not, rather than a review.
What Lossless codec is on the MOVIE?
BasementBob 04-03-09, 05:19 PM What Lossless codec is on the MOVIE?
I didn't check the audio options when I played the movie -- I just hit play.
The back of the box says "5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio".
drhankz 04-03-09, 06:34 PM I didn't check the audio options when I played the movie -- I just hit play.
The back of the box says "5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio".
OH WOW - you have NO IDEA what you are missing :p
DTS-HD - WOW WOW WOW http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif
Rob Tomlin 04-03-09, 07:24 PM OH WOW - you have NO IDEA what you are missing :p
DTS-HD - WOW WOW WOW http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif
But the HD1 doesn't decode DTS HD?
drhankz 04-04-09, 07:00 AM But the HD1 doesn't decode DTS HD?
Hi Rob
Really ;)
Maybe that is why I have NOT USED mine in OVER a year.
OLD technology needs to be retired.
I have a Cellar full of OLD AV technology even two CRT PJ's
and a LCD PJ, not to mention all the OUTDATED Audio Gear.
drhankz 04-04-09, 07:03 AM But the HD1 doesn't decode DTS HD?
BTW - my experience with DTS-HD is it is even BETTER
than TrueHD. And most of the NEW Blu-Ray releases
seemed to be HEAVILY Biased towards DTS-HD. It seems
very few are using TrueHD.
But then Maybe I'm TOO OLD and just imagining this shift http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif
aawhite 04-06-09, 06:25 PM I have a BDP-HD1 running firmware 3.88 connected via HDMI to a VSX-01... I cannot seem to get the player to internally decode Dolby TrueHD as it should be able to do as per firmware version 3.40.1.
BDP-HD1 settings:
Dolby Digital > PCM
DTS > PCM
HDMI Audio Out > PCM
VSX-01 reads PCM when watching a bluray with Dolby TrueHD (Dark Night...) but when I select the on-screen audio options of the BDP-HD1 it says "Dolby Digital 3/2.1" instead of "Dolby TrueHD".
I skipped many firmware updates including 3.40.1 and went directly to 3.88. Do I need to upgrade to 3.40.1 and then back to 3.88 in order to get the new formats?
Does anyone have any guidance? Any help getting the BDP-HD1 to correctly decode the new audio formats is greatly appreciated.
aawhite 04-06-09, 06:27 PM I have a BDP-HD1 running firmware 3.88 connected via HDMI to a VSX-01... I cannot seem to get the player to internally decode Dolby TrueHD as it should be able to do as per firmware version 3.40.1.
BDP-HD1 settings:
Dolby Digital > PCM
DTS > PCM
HDMI Audio Out > PCM
VSX-01 reads PCM when watching a bluray with Dolby TrueHD (Dark Night...) but when I select the on-screen audio options of the BDP-HD1 it says "Dolby Digital 3/2.1" instead of "Dolby TrueHD".
I skipped many firmware updates including 3.40.1 and went directly to 3.88. Do I need to upgrade to 3.40.1 and then back to 3.88 in order to get the new formats?
Does anyone have any guidance? Any help getting the BDP-HD1 to correctly decode the new audio formats is greatly appreciated.
gluvhand 04-06-09, 07:26 PM With the player doing the decoding your receiver SHOULD display PCM, MPCM, multi-pcm, or something similar, depending on receiver brand. Only when the receiver decodes a bitstream will it display True-hd, dts-ma... Just make sure you select the true-hd sound option on each disc.
You don't know to go back an run previous f/w. All following f/w's will include all previous.
aawhite 04-06-09, 08:01 PM gluvhand,
That is the root of my problem....When I try and select different audio options on a bluray disc (i.e. Dark Night which has Dolby TrueHD) the player will not give me a Dolby TrueHD option. Rather it gives me Dolby Digital 3/2.1 English, French...
My AVR is reading PCM, which is correct as the BDP-HD1 internally decodes Dolby True HD.
HTMan34 04-06-09, 08:06 PM I have a BDP-HD1 running firmware 3.88 connected via HDMI to a VSX-01... I cannot seem to get the player to internally decode Dolby TrueHD as it should be able to do as per firmware version 3.40.1.
BDP-HD1 settings:
Dolby Digital > PCM
DTS > PCM
HDMI Audio Out > PCM
VSX-01 reads PCM when watching a bluray with Dolby TrueHD (Dark Night...) but when I select the on-screen audio options of the BDP-HD1 it says "Dolby Digital 3/2.1" instead of "Dolby TrueHD".
I skipped many firmware updates including 3.40.1 and went directly to 3.88. Do I need to upgrade to 3.40.1 and then back to 3.88 in order to get the new formats?
Does anyone have any guidance? Any help getting the BDP-HD1 to correctly decode the new audio formats is greatly appreciated.
You sound like you are doing everything correctly...the biggest thing that needs to be done is to set the HDMI Audio out to PCM, which you have done already. The receiver will display as PCM. It sounds as if you did not select the TrueHD track on the actual movie in the setup or audio menu. When you hit the "Audio" button on the remote, try scrolling through the avaiable audio tracks and make sure that it is selected on TrueHD. I have been using my HD1 and internally decoding TrueHD tracks for a long time now, since the first FW that made it available.
HTMan34 04-06-09, 08:08 PM gluvhand,
That is the root of my problem....When I try and select different audio options on a bluray disc (i.e. Dark Night which has Dolby TrueHD) the player will not give me a Dolby TrueHD option. Rather it gives me Dolby Digital 3/2.1 English, French...
My AVR is reading PCM, which is correct as the BDP-HD1 internally decodes Dolby True HD.
Try selecting the audio option in the main menu on a BD, it will definitely be there.
aawhite 04-06-09, 08:10 PM ok, so i realize now that firmware 3.88 includes all previous versions.
My problem is simply that I cannot select "Dolby TrueHD" or "DTS-HD" on any of the supported discs I have tried (Dark Night, WallE, RocknRolla).
My AVR IS reading PCM....but if the disc says its outputting Dolby Digital am I wrong to think that something is amiss?
aawhite 04-06-09, 08:12 PM HTMan 34,
First of all, GO GREEN!!!!!
I am trying to select TrueHD via the Audio Menu but it is simply NOT there...
Could this be fixed by re-upgrading my FW?
drhankz 04-06-09, 08:25 PM My problem is simply that I cannot select "Dolby TrueHD" or "DTS-HD" on any of the supported discs I have tried (Dark Night, WallE, RocknRolla).
My AVR IS reading PCM....but if the disc says its outputting Dolby Digital am I wrong to think that something is amiss?
Dark Night has the TrueHD in the Language Menu.
Wall-E has NO TrueHD track so that will be hard to Select.
PCM is what your AVR should show.
aawhite 04-06-09, 08:27 PM ok, ok
I just selected TrueHD via the "BD Menu" button rather than the "Audio" button and sure enough the button GUI popped up and let me select TrueHD....After that I hit the "Audio" button in order to check which format the change had selected...Sure enough it changed the selection to 2/5 Dolby Digital.
I guess the BDP-HD1 has a problem with the audio readout during playback because the disc says i am getting TrueHD and I am sure this is uncompressed Dolby.
aawhite 04-06-09, 08:50 PM Wall no TrueHD....right.
Problem is solved, i need to select the audio format via the interactive bd menu rather than the audio selection of the BDP-HD1
thanks a lot yall
drhankz 04-06-09, 08:58 PM Wall no TrueHD....right.
Problem is solved, i need to select the audio format via the interactive bd menu rather than the audio selection of the BDP-HD1
thanks a lot yall
Yes - that is what I tried to tell you as did others.
Good Luck
aawhite 04-07-09, 12:28 AM Yes - that is what I tried to tell you as did others.
Good Luck
But my question was, in short:
Why will the HD1 not display the correct audio format in its internal audio HUD during playback?
On another note, the Pioneer Additional Info regarding Firmware 3.40.1 states that the HD1 will decode DTS-HD. Are they referring to DTS-HD Master Audio or DTS-HD High Resolution Audio?
drhankz 04-07-09, 08:03 AM But my question was, in short:
Why will the HD1 not display the correct audio format in its internal audio HUD during playback?
It doesn't display it - that is what is does.
On another note, the Pioneer Additional Info regarding Firmware 3.40.1 states that the HD1 will decode DTS-HD. Are they referring to DTS-HD Master Audio or DTS-HD High Resolution Audio?
I have NO IDEA what makes you think that - it is NOT TRUE.
HTMan34 04-07-09, 09:00 AM HTMan 34,
First of all, GO GREEN!!!!!
I am trying to select TrueHD via the Audio Menu but it is simply NOT there...
Could this be fixed by re-upgrading my FW?
Thanks, hopefully everyone including KG will be healthy in the next 2 weeks!
rboster 04-07-09, 09:03 AM ok, ok
I just selected TrueHD via the "BD Menu" button rather than the "Audio" button and sure enough the button GUI popped up and let me select TrueHD....After that I hit the "Audio" button in order to check which format the change had selected...Sure enough it changed the selection to 2/5 Dolby Digital.
I guess the BDP-HD1 has a problem with the audio readout during playback because the disc says i am getting TrueHD and I am sure this is uncompressed Dolby.
I merged your thread into the owner's thread for this player. Please post any and all questions and comments concerning this player in this thread vs starting a separate thread.
thanks
HTMan34 04-07-09, 09:03 AM But my question was, in short:
Why will the HD1 not display the correct audio format in its internal audio HUD during playback?
On another note, the Pioneer Additional Info regarding Firmware 3.40.1 states that the HD1 will decode DTS-HD. Are they referring to DTS-HD Master Audio or DTS-HD High Resolution Audio?
The HD1 does not internally decode any form of DTS-HD, whether it be DTS-HD MA or DTS-HD HR. There was rumor/talk that the HD1 was supposed to be updated to decode DTS-HD HR, but since there were only a few titles in the very beginning I guess they decided to scrap that idea since it is was just not worth the time and money.
aawhite 04-07-09, 09:09 AM It doesn't display it - that is what is does.
I have NO IDEA what makes you think that - it is NOT TRUE.
How about you take a look here:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ephox/StaticFiles/PUSA/Files/BDP-HD1/BDP-HD1_3401E.pdf
This is the "Additional Information regarding Firmware on and after Ver.3.40.1", and in the chart on the first page it shows DTS-HD being output 5.1 PCM via HDMI.
Thats why I have that IDEA.
drhankz 04-07-09, 09:18 AM How about you take a look here:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ephox/StaticFiles/PUSA/Files/BDP-HD1/BDP-HD1_3401E.pdf
This is the "Additional Information regarding Firmware on and after Ver.3.40.1", and in the chart on the first page it shows DTS-HD being output 5.1 PCM via HDMI.
Thats why I have that IDEA.
That is a VERSION I have NEVER seen. It is also NOT the Version
that came with FW 3.40 - I know because I host all the FW updates
on a personal web server.
However with that said - the version you sent me would CERTAINLY
confuse anyone and lead them to YOUR CONCLUSION.
drhankz 04-07-09, 09:29 AM http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ephox/StaticFiles/PUSA/Files/BDP-HD1/BDP-HD1_3401E.pdf
When I went to my own hosting site - I did find that same PDF
document shown above in the FW 3.88 Folder.
I still claim it DOES NOT DECODE DTS-HD or DTS-MA, but I
can easily see why reading that would make anyone think it
does.
aawhite 04-07-09, 09:50 AM I still claim it DOES NOT DECODE DTS-HD or DTS-MA, but I
can easily see why reading that would make anyone think it
does.
I agree completely. Wonder if it ever will...Probnot
drhankz 04-07-09, 10:05 AM I agree completely. Wonder if it ever will...Probnot
It is NOT a Software limitation. It is a HARDWARE limitation
of this GEN #1 Platform.
BTW - I don't use my BDP-HD1 for anything except taking
up RACK SPACE as you can see (http://nevca.ods.org:8080/Tyler/HolidayViperClubParty/pages/GR13_jpg.htm). I must say the DTS-HD
Lossless Movies are WAY BETTER than even the TrueHD
movies.
I have the latest update but can not get Role Models - Unrated to work... anyone else have this problem?
HTMan34 04-12-09, 09:44 AM I have the latest update but can not get Role Models - Unrated to work... anyone else have this problem?
No problems here. I watched Role Models/Unrated Version about 2 weeks ago and it played fine from start to finish on my HD1. I am using FW 3.88.
No problems here. I watched Role Models/Unrated Version about 2 weeks ago and it played fine from start to finish on my HD1. I am using FW 3.88.
Thanks for the info. Maybe I had a faulty disc. Will request another one from Netlflix. It just would not pass the first initial loading.
HTMan34 04-12-09, 07:17 PM Thanks for the info. Maybe I had a faulty disc. Will request another one from Netlflix. It just would not pass the first initial loading.
The copy I watched is a purchased copy from the store that I own.
drhankz 04-12-09, 07:58 PM Thanks for the info. Maybe I had a faulty disc. Will request another one from Netlflix. It just would not pass the first initial loading.
I could be WRONG - but I believe the Studios ALLOW Netiflix
to MAKE COPIES of the movies themselves. There are a lot
of reported problems with Netiflix movies on all kinds of machines.
Another one will usually fix the problem.
BasementBob 04-13-09, 02:01 AM Watched "2010 The Year We Make Contact BluRay"
I was hoping that it would be an improvement over the DVD version of this that I have, which is dark in several spots, and has a variety of camera flair and special effects errors. In otherwords I was hoping for a 'restored' edition. No such luck. The BluRay video might even be worse.
HTMan34 04-13-09, 10:26 AM I could be WRONG - but I believe the Studios ALLOW Netiflix
to MAKE COPIES of the movies themselves. There are a lot
of reported problems with Netiflix movies on all kinds of machines.
Another one will usually fix the problem.
This would actually make sense then, sin ce all the reported issues with Netflix BDs. I rent from Blockbuster quite often and I have never had an issue with any of their BDs...of course they are usually filthy and have to cleaned first before I play them :D
drhankz 04-13-09, 02:40 PM This would actually make sense then, sin ce all the reported issues with Netflix BDs. I rent from Blockbuster quite often and I have never had an issue with any of their BDs...of course they are usually filthy and have to cleaned first before I play them :D
AGAIN - I'm not 100% sure about it but I seem to have read it somewhere.
Hay but at my age getting anything right is a small miracle :p
HTMan34 04-13-09, 05:46 PM AGAIN - I'm not 100% sure about it but I seem to have read it somewhere.
Hay but at my age getting anything right is a small miracle :p
It seems to make sense though, unless all their BDs are just so severly scracthed and ruined from being sent back and forth in the mail to people.
drhankz 04-13-09, 05:49 PM It seems to make sense though, unless all their BDs are just so severly scracthed and ruined from being sent back and forth in the mail to people.
In Theory - the Blu-Ray association says Blu-Ray has
a special coating to make them scratch resistant - but
nothing is full-proof.
New copy is due Thurs. Hopefully it will work. The one I sent back literally locked up my player on the initial loading screen.
drhankz 04-14-09, 07:21 AM New copy is due Thurs. Hopefully it will work. The one I sent back literally locked up my player on the initial loading screen.
The Lock Up certainly sounds like a BAD copy
That is why I rent Locally - Knock on wood - never had a problem with any movie
The Lock Up certainly sounds like a BAD copy
That is why I rent Locally - Knock on wood - never had a problem with any movie
Netflix is local for me... right up the street :D
The replacement copy of Role Models worked perfectly.
tackforce 04-19-09, 02:20 AM Hello I found this from the DTS web I hope this can explained why the firmware Ver3.40
said the DTS-HD output 5.1 channel.
The original DTS engineers designed a unique, future-proof coding system that has a “Core + Extension” structure. The DTS “core” contains data for a 5.1-channel system, operating at 44.1 or 48kHz, with a bit rate of 1.5Mbps (mega-bits per second). As DTS has introduced new technologies, these new “extensions” can then be added onto the core. That means the DTS-HD is the "extensions" part of the DTS "core" Our BDP-HD1 just left out the "extensions" part and decode the "core" part of the DTS-HD format.
BasementBob 05-17-09, 05:44 PM Watched Valkyrie (BluRay) (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001KZIRKY)
No Problems.
Good film.
Good video/sound.
drhankz 05-17-09, 05:47 PM Watched Valkyrie (BluRay) (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001KZIRKY)
No Problems.
Good film.
Good video/sound.
I watched it 6 Months Ago
BasementBob 05-19-09, 05:57 PM Watched Taken (BluRay) (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GCUNYO)
No problems.
Loading takes a while, and there's a section while loading that the screen is black for almost a minute between green 'loading' bars.
Although I'd seen 98% of this in theatres six months ago, this time I watched the Extended Cut, which gave another 2 minutes of bits edited out of the North American theatrical release for the PG-13 rating. No change in plot details, but the fight scenes are a little longer.
NemoZorro 05-22-09, 05:06 PM Watched Taken (BluRay) (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GCUNYO)
No problems.
Loading takes a while, and there's a section while loading that the screen is black for almost a minute between green 'loading' bars.
Although I'd seen 98% of this in theatres six months ago, this time I watched the Extended Cut, which gave another 2 minutes of bits edited out of the North American theatrical release for the PG-13 rating. No change in plot details, but the fight scenes are a little longer.
I kinda miss the loading bars! I wish the 51 had them. The HD1 is still a solid unit.
RalphoR 05-22-09, 06:59 PM I'm glad to see this thread still has life! I have purchased two BD players since the HD1: The Denon 3800 and the Pioneer Elite 09 (both of which are in full use at my house). It was sad to sell the HD1...well almost sell. It's in the consignment room at my local high end A/V dealer. I don't go in there...I just can't look at it without being sad. It's nice to see some of you still have yours, except for drhankz...his is in the elephant rack graveyard :-)
HTMan34 05-23-09, 09:29 AM I'm glad to see this thread still has life! I have purchased two BD players since the HD1: The Denon 3800 and the Pioneer Elite 09 (both of which are in full use at my house). It was sad to sell the HD1...well almost sell. It's in the consignment room at my local high end A/V dealer. I don't go in there...I just can't look at it without being sad. It's nice to see some of you still have yours, except for drhankz...his is in the elephant rack graveyard :-)
I still have mine, 2 1/2 years later. Still going strong! I am still looking for a replacement, but I am in no rush. Might check out the 23FD but also might just wait until CES and see what Pioneer has in store for next year.
BasementBob 05-23-09, 12:38 PM I looked through some of the other threads here yesterday, to see if something had GREAT load times (throw some CPU at the job please!) and responsiveness (fast forward, pause, restart), and Good picture/sound.
Didn't see anything more than minor improvements (expounded upon with great enthusiasm though), and even a few that wouldn't play some BluRays that my HD1 plays.
NemoZorro 05-26-09, 04:34 PM I looked through some of the other threads here yesterday, to see if something had GREAT load times (throw some CPU at the job please!) and responsiveness (fast forward, pause, restart), and Good picture/sound.
Didn't see anything more than minor improvements (expounded upon with great enthusiasm though), and even a few that wouldn't play some BluRays that my HD1 plays.
Well, the big thing for me was being able to bitstream the HD sound, and the 51/05 players have been fine. They are faster, but not night and day faster, than the HD1. And I really do miss that load bar!
The HD1 has really held up, and yes, we still have it.
BasementBob 06-04-09, 12:36 AM Watched The International (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001YXXR3E)
No problems.
Boring. Much to much use of "The Stare". I don't know off hand how long this film was, but it should have been a half hour shorter.
Watched Gran Torino (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001KVZ6ES)
Froze for 10 seconds at 56 minutes in.
Froze for 70 seconds at 1:36:40 till 1:37:50.
In both cases it recovered automatically.
A really good film in my opinion.
NemoZorro 06-29-09, 05:21 PM Anybody load the new firmware yet?
BasementBob 06-29-09, 05:46 PM Anybody load the new firmware yet?
I didn't know there was a new one. 2009/06/09 (Y/M/D, ISO 8601)
I downloaded the new BDP_HD1_Ver392.zip file from here (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Support/HomeEntertainment/Blu-rayDisc+DVD/EliteBlu-rayDiscPlayers/ci.BDP-HD1.Support?tab=B) but I've not installed it into the player yet.
HTMan34 06-29-09, 08:12 PM Anybody load the new firmware yet?
Thanks for the heads up. Has anybody tried checking tyhe FW updates via the ethernet jack/internet? The last time I tried it, it did not work. I followed the instructions on how to do it and nothing happened after numerous tries.
RedSoxInHD 07-01-09, 02:57 AM Just tried Quantum of Solace with firmware 392. Pretty much unwatchable. Gets REALLY choppy, finally just gave up trying to watch it.
NemoZorro 07-01-09, 05:46 PM Ours is in a box so haven't loaded it yet, but I'm curious how the internet update would work.
HTMan34 07-02-09, 05:42 PM I updated my HD1 to FW 3.92 last night via the internet. Worked great, very easy! I actually like it better than burning a DVD, much easier. The only thing that I don't like is the fact that after you press the subtitle button on the remote to start the download process, there is kind of a delay and you are not sure if anything is going to happen. After about 10 seconds or so then it finally displays "net download" on the LCD of the player. Haven't tried any BD's yet, hopefully tonight.
NemoZorro 07-02-09, 05:58 PM I updated my HD1 to FW 3.92 last night via the internet. Worked great, very easy! I actually like it better than burning a DVD, much easier. The only thing that I don't like is the fact that after you press the subtitle button on the remote to start the download process, there is kind of a delay and you are not sure if anything is going to happen. After about 10 seconds or so then it finally displays "net download" on the LCD of the player. Haven't tried any BD's yet, hopefully tonight.
Good to know the process works! Sounds pretty painless, but I don't think I'll lug it across the house to the router....:)
HTMan34 07-04-09, 09:49 PM Good to know the process works! Sounds pretty painless, but I don't think I'll lug it across the house to the router....:)
Fortunately when I had my house built I made sure to have another etheret jack ran into my theater!
BasementBob 07-09-09, 11:39 PM Watched Push (BluRay) (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001OQCVII)
Old Firmware 3.88
No problems.
Better than I dared hoped for. 3.95/5
Jeremy112 08-08-09, 11:30 AM Hey everyone,
I just got my BDP-HD1 working about a month ago (bought a bad unit about 6 months ago and waited for the next bad unit (with a different issue) to come along.
So far I havent had a single problem with it and I think the firmware is still the original version from when it was made. I also popped my bad blu ray drive into my PC and it still can burn blu rays and DVD's! (Just not read them:()
Anyway I saw that you could update the firmware via the internet? I am curious as to how this works?
Also I have purchased 9 blu ray movies and every one of them loaded and ran perfect! I love the player and couldn't be happier with it. Im just waiting for the BDP-09FD to get "affordable" for a used one. the BDP-HD1 is my first blu ray player, I have seen other blu ray players but still never enjoyed watching a movie on them as much as my BDP-HD1 :D
Also that its the first blu ray player in the world kinda has some history to it!
HTMan34 08-08-09, 08:16 PM Hey everyone,
I just got my BDP-HD1 working about a month ago (bought a bad unit about 6 months ago and waited for the next bad unit (with a different issue) to come along.
So far I havent had a single problem with it and I think the firmware is still the original version from when it was made. I also popped my bad blu ray drive into my PC and it still can burn blu rays and DVD's! (Just not read them:()
Anyway I saw that you could update the firmware via the internet? I am curious as to how this works?
Also I have purchased 9 blu ray movies and every one of them loaded and ran perfect! I love the player and couldn't be happier with it. Im just waiting for the BDP-09FD to get "affordable" for a used one. the BDP-HD1 is my first blu ray player, I have seen other blu ray players but still never enjoyed watching a movie on them as much as my BDP-HD1 :D
Also that its the first blu ray player in the world kinda has some history to it!
Congrats on the player. I still have my HD1 since December of '06 and still love it! The FW updates via the internet work real well. You have to go into the "Home Menu" and choose "Initial Setup Menu". In there select "Language" and then "OSD". Highlight English and then hit the "Subtitle" button. It will display on the front panel of the player either "no updates" or "NET DWLD". The 2nd one will actually download the latest update, takes about 8-10 minutes.
BasementBob 08-27-09, 09:13 PM Watched Gladiator Extended Cut BluRay (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NU2CY4)
I don't know how I watched this movie last, but I don't remember the video being this incredibly sharp. A little grain now and then, but mostly spectacular clarity.
Is anyone having trouble with the latest net updates? I'm running firmware 3.92 and have been having trouble playing some discs, most recently War.
I noticed on the website that the latest firmware is 3.95, but when I try to update via the net it tells me there are no updates available.
Before I resort to burning a disc, has anyone been able to update past 3.92 using the net?
- Dave
drhankz 11-30-09, 01:51 PM Is anyone having trouble with the latest net updates? I'm running firmware 3.92 and have been having trouble playing some discs, most recently War.
I noticed on the website that the latest firmware is 3.95, but when I try to update via the net it tells me there are no updates available.
Before I resort to burning a disc, has anyone been able to update past 3.92 using the net?
- Dave
My Wondeful Pioneer Has been Sleeping for over a year and a Half.
Burning a Disk is always the BEST - a lot faster in General.
HTMan34 11-30-09, 05:06 PM Is anyone having trouble with the latest net updates? I'm running firmware 3.92 and have been having trouble playing some discs, most recently War.
I noticed on the website that the latest firmware is 3.95, but when I try to update via the net it tells me there are no updates available.
Before I resort to burning a disc, has anyone been able to update past 3.92 using the net?
- Dave
I haven't tried updating past 3.92 yet via the internet. I will try in a little while and report back.
BasementBob 12-01-09, 04:11 PM I'm still running firmware 3.88.
No problems with any BluRay I've bought or watched, and there have been several in the past couple months.
I'm still running firmware 3.88.
No problems with any BluRay I've bought or watched, and there have been several in the past couple months.
That makes me think my problems are more likely with the player itself than the firmware.
- Dave
BasementBob 12-13-09, 11:37 PM Back in May 2009 I got a private message from someone I'll call D.H. suggesting I might like a PS3 for BluRay movies. Now that I have both, here's my comparison (PS3 / Pioneer BDP-HD1).
The PS3 has an annoying loud hum. It's less than 50db(A) but it's still annoying. [For most movies less than 2 hours, the Pioneer is quieter].
The navigation (pause, next, fast forward) are all much faster on the PS3. The Display button includes a time bar (where you are in the movie, how long the movie is in hours:minutes:seconds).
The remote is bluetooth, so it doesn't matter where you point it.
When you hit pause and leave it for quite a while, the image dims quite a bit (sort of screen-saver).
The 1.5 speed with audio is interesting (R2 button). I used to have that on an old VHS player I had.
Turning the power off a mid movie still looses the place, and I couldn't find a goto hour:minute:second feature on the PS3.
With the PS3 I'm using the optical out giving me 5.1 sound, and hdmi out through an hdmi switch into a pioneer FHD1 plasma television.
I'm not planning on doing an A-B video/audio comparison, nor trying DVD upconversion through both. I'm kicking around the idea of doing an A-B disk load time comparison with the same BluRay disk.
drhankz 12-14-09, 07:09 AM The PS3 has an annoying loud hum. It's less than 50db(A) but it's still annoying. [For most movies less than 2 hours, the Pioneer is quieter].
BOB - Something is wrong somewhere - there is NO HUM from
a PS3. Some of the Gen #1 PS3 had fans that were a bit noisy.
Unless you bought a USED Gen #1 unit - you should not be able
to find a Noisy Fan. The HUM problem is something I have never
heard from ANY PS3 owner on any THREAD.
I own (3) PS3 - (1) Gen #1 and (2) Gen #2.
HUM is just NOT part of a PS3 - unless you are translating FAN
noise as HUM
BasementBob 12-14-09, 10:22 AM Unless you bought a USED Gen #1 unit - you should not be able to find a Noisy Fan. The HUM problem is something I have never heard from ANY PS3 owner on any THREAD.
It's an all new PS3 120 gb from Futureshop/BestBuy.
It's 5' away, as the laser pointer travels (I have no crows in my home), on the top of a shelving unit so it's 7' off the floor, and it makes noise. Fortunately there's only two buttons on the unit {eject and power}, and I know where they are, so it's operable even overhead.
Note that I routinely listen to television at around 60db(C), which is quieter than most.
When I said it was less than 50db(A) I meant it was noisy enough that I went and got my radio shack sound level meter, which only goes down to 50db(A), and I attempted to measure the volume of the noise.
As for if it's
a) BluRay spinning disk noise
b) fan noise
c) some other noise
I didn't pay much attention.
trex4757 12-24-09, 10:42 AM Is anyone having trouble with the latest net updates? I'm running firmware 3.92 and have been having trouble playing some discs, most recently War.
I noticed on the website that the latest firmware is 3.95, but when I try to update via the net it tells me there are no updates available.
Before I resort to burning a disc, has anyone been able to update past 3.92 using the net?
- Dave
No, I am having the same problem. When I received my unit it included the following message from Pioneer:
"Please note that the internet method of upgrading the unit is not possible until firmware version 3.92 on the supplied disc is installed. "
I installed verson 3.92 via the supplied disc, but I still cannot update to 3.95 via the internet. I get the message "no updates" on the display.:confused:
I think I may be having the same problem that you encountered with your old BDP-HD1. Was it reading "No Disc." Did you go through the warranty process?
drhankz 01-18-10, 12:55 PM I still cannot update to 3.95 via the internet. I get the message "no updates" on the display.:confused:
What is so terrible about updating to 3.95 via disk?
It is available on the Pioneer Website (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Support/HomeEntertainment/Blu-rayDisc+DVD/EliteBlu-rayDiscPlayers/ci.BDP-HD1.Support?tab=B)
And it is MUCH MUCH FASTER AND SAFER than the Internet :rolleyes:
HTMan34 01-18-10, 04:27 PM I tried a couple of weeks ago to update the FW via the internet and also received the "no updates" message on the display. I just updated with a DVD from the download on the website. I really prefer the DVD update instead, always nervous when doing the updates via the internet! I worry that my internet connection will quit on me halfway through the download/install.
RayN999 02-05-10, 07:35 AM Hey everyone,
I just got my BDP-HD1 working about a month ago (bought a bad unit about 6 months ago and waited for the next bad unit (with a different issue) to come along.
So far I havent had a single problem with it and I think the firmware is still the original version from when it was made. I also popped my bad blu ray drive into my PC and it still can burn blu rays and DVD's! (Just not read them:()
Anyway I saw that you could update the firmware via the internet? I am curious as to how this works?
Also I have purchased 9 blu ray movies and every one of them loaded and ran perfect! I love the player and couldn't be happier with it. Im just waiting for the BDP-09FD to get "affordable" for a used one. the BDP-HD1 is my first blu ray player, I have seen other blu ray players but still never enjoyed watching a movie on them as much as my BDP-HD1 :D
Also that its the first blu ray player in the world kinda has some history to it!
I received the other 'problem child' from Jeremy (thanks again for sending that for cost of shipping only!). The 'different issue' with this one was the bad drive mentioned as well as the power supply board was busted. Jeremy managed to get the power supply back to fully functional before sending it my way, but the drive seemed to be a challenge.
I let the player sit for a couple months but would occasionally search ebay for the replacement blu-ray drive. Finally located a BDR-101A drive for $99 on ebay, purchased it, and received it on 2/3/10. Installed the drive, did some tests, and it seemed to play most of the discs I have except for the 2 I had from Netflix and one burned disc. So I figured a firmware update was needed, but here's where the fun starts.... After running the firmware update to 3.95, player then showed 'Drive Err' on the display & refused to go any further. Plugged drive into PC, and it seemed to work perfectly. Quite puzzling....
Fortunately Jeremy had sent along that old drive that wouldn't read blu-rays anymore. I plugged that drive back in, and it read the firmware DVD just fine & completed the process without issues. After this, I confirmed that the firmware on the player was indeed 3.95, but this drive still wouldn't read blu-rays. So I figured at worst I'd be out $99 for the replacement drive, I pulled bottom cover off the drive & swapped the controller boards between the old problem drive & the new replacement with Drive Err. Plugged the new/old drive back into the player & it fired up & is now working perfectly!!!
Tested the 2 Netflix discs now, and they are both working just fine as well. Tried other blu-rays I had sitting around here, and with the exception of one disc I burned with an odd file content layout (has just an AVCHD file on it, used it in the PS3), the player read & played them without a hiccup.
Now I need to keep an eye out for an original remote for this beast.
So I'm a new 'old' owner of a BDP-HD1 after a little bit of sweat & elbow grease & shadetree engineering (and $99). Thanks again Jeremy :D
BasementBob 02-15-10, 01:51 AM Tried to watch Couples Retreat. The menu loaded fine, but then it hung after I pressed PLAY. Then it was a real pain to get out of the player, STOP did nothing and EJECT kept saying "Can not play disk" (the power button was still functional) -- I ended up using the paper clip hole to get it to eject, and the disk was still spinning.
I'm still running firmware 3.88.
Then (after power off, power on) I put in Black Dynamite -- and that worked fine.
(my PS3 is on loan to a friend for a couple months)
drhankz 02-15-10, 07:27 AM (my PS3 is on loan to a friend for a couple months)
ONLY One PS3 - I have three - you need more than one
HTMan34 02-15-10, 03:56 PM Tried to watch Couples Retreat. The menu loaded fine, but then it hung after I pressed PLAY. Then it was a real pain to get out of the player, STOP did nothing and EJECT kept saying "Can not play disk" (the power button was still functional) -- I ended up using the paper clip hole to get it to eject, and the disk was still spinning.
I'm still running firmware 3.88.
Then (after power off, power on) I put in Black Dynamite -- and that worked fine.
(my PS3 is on loan to a friend for a couple months)
I actually just watched Couples Retreat last night on my HD1. Worked great, no issues whatsoever, I am running FW 3.95. Try updating the FW and it should work fine...as far as the movie goes, pretty good, funny but thought it would have been better for a Vince Vaughn movie. I think that there were actually too many big names that kind of overshadowed Vaughn.
BasementBob 02-28-10, 04:34 AM I actually just watched Couples Retreat last night on my HD1. Worked great, no issues whatsoever, I am running FW 3.95. Try updating the FW and it should work fine...I tried to watch The Greatest Game Ever Played (still at firmware 3.88), and it hung too. So, reading the writing on the wall I updated the firmware to 3.95 via DVD-R, and now Couples Retreat is playing.
EDIT: The Greatest Game Ever Played works too.
HTMan34 02-28-10, 09:27 PM I tried to watch The Greatest Game Ever Played (still at firmware 3.88), and it hung too. So, reading the writing on the wall I updated the firmware to 3.95 via DVD-R, and now Couples Retreat is playing.
EDIT: The Greatest Game Ever Played works too.
Good to hear they worked! Now hopefully Pioneer continues to update the FW for our HD1, otherwise some of these new titles may not play!
paulgas 04-07-10, 06:09 PM Went to watch movie and all it says is "no disc" Tried many movies all it says is "no disc" worth fixing?
Paul
Walkamo 04-23-10, 04:44 PM New firmware should be posted tonight....... Ver. 4.00
Rob Tomlin 04-23-10, 07:17 PM New firmware should be posted tonight....... Ver. 4.00
Cool.
NemoZorro 05-01-10, 11:53 PM New firmware should be posted tonight....... Ver. 4.00
Thanks for the heads up Chris!
paulgas 07-12-10, 04:08 PM I have a bdp-hd1 bought new 3 years ago. rarely used. stopped reading discs. Try and repair or just use xbox?
NemoZorro 07-15-10, 05:42 PM I have a bdp-hd1 bought new 3 years ago. rarely used. stopped reading discs. Try and repair or just use xbox?
Good question; guess it depends on how much it can be repaired for. It is quite the dinosaur now - but certainly good and reliable for its day.
HTMan34 07-16-10, 06:16 PM Sounds like it might be the drive that went bad. You might be able to pick a drive up real cheap on Ebay. If that is the case then I would definitely keep it and fix it...the HD1 is a great BD player, I still have mine, almost 4 years old now and works like the day that I purchased it!
nealgrof 01-26-11, 02:48 PM Does anybody have this? I missed it last year.
The Pioneer link says "page not found." I Googled, but couldn't come up with any other links. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
drhankz 01-26-11, 03:11 PM Does anybody have this? I missed it last year.
The Pioneer link says "page not found." I Googled, but couldn't come up with any other links. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
Did you try PMing Walkamo
HTMan34 01-26-11, 03:39 PM Does anybody have this? I missed it last year.
The Pioneer link says "page not found." I Googled, but couldn't come up with any other links. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
I have this and updated it a while ago when it first came out. I have been using FW 4.0 for a while now and it works without any issues...I just tried the support page for the HD1 on Pioneer's website and am seeing the same thing you are. It appears a problem with the site. I know a lot of people having been complaining about having issues with their website recently, especially after they redid the site. I have the update, but unfortunately it is way too large to e-mail you, it is about 48mb.
drhankz 01-26-11, 06:09 PM I have the update, but unfortunately it is way too large to e-mail you, it is about 48mb.
I can provide a web hosting service for you to transfer
the file and then anyone can download. I looked on my
hosting server - because at one time I was HOSTING
copies for Pioneer.
HTMan34 01-27-11, 06:29 PM I can provide a web hosting service for you to transfer
the file and then anyone can download. I looked on my
hosting server - because at one time I was HOSTING
copies for Pioneer.
That sounds good to me. I would happy to provide the FW update for anyone to be able to download. Let me know.
nealgrof 01-28-11, 03:27 AM Guys, I do so appreciate your rallying to assist. But...it seems I downloaded it back in November, and never did anything with it. I just found it.:o
I wanted to let you know before you all went to any trouble.
Warm regards.
drhankz 01-28-11, 07:00 AM Guys, I do so appreciate your rallying to assist. But...it seems I downloaded it back in November, and never did anything with it. I just found it.:o
I wanted to let you know before you all went to any trouble.
Warm regards.
THANKS for the update http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif
HTMan34 01-28-11, 05:06 PM Well we can host it anyway just in case someone else needs it.
drhankz 01-29-11, 10:40 AM Thanks to Dan [HTMan34] for his help Uploading FW 4.0.
Anyone who needs update can click on the FTP SERVER LINK HERE (http://www.atego.ods.org/Login)
Use the Anonymous Login option by just entering your e-mail address
Then you will see the Pioneer Update Files Click on them
and select the version you want.
HTMan34 05-17-11, 05:36 PM Just an FYI...there is a new FW update, version 4.20, added on Pioneers website on 5/10/11. I just downloaded and will try later to install. Not sure if it is available via internet download yet, I will check later before I install from a DVD.
drhankz 05-17-11, 09:01 PM Just an FYI...there is a new FW update, version 4.20, added on Pioneers website on 5/10/11. I just downloaded and will try later to install. Not sure if it is available via internet download yet, I will check later before I install from a DVD.
Any link info would be helpful
HTMan34 05-18-11, 04:13 PM Here is the link to Pioneers website for the HD1 FW updates...
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Blu-ray-Disc-and-DVD/Elite-Blu-ray-Disc-Players/BDP-HD1?tab=firmware
drhankz 05-18-11, 04:15 PM Here is the link to Pioneers website for the HD1 FW updates...
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Blu-ray-Disc-and-DVD/Elite-Blu-ray-Disc-Players/BDP-HD1?tab=firmware
Thanks - Dan the Man
HTMan34 05-19-11, 06:45 PM Thanks - Dan the Man
No problem...pretty cool that Pioneet is still releasing updates 5 years later!
drhankz 05-20-11, 07:15 AM No problem...pretty cool that Pioneet is still releasing updates 5 years later!
It is COOL they have continued to Support such an old Blu-Ray player.
HTMan34 05-20-11, 03:51 PM It is COOL they have continued to Support such an old Blu-Ray player.
Agreed!
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