I called pioneer to see if they called mail a DVD to my house and they said if you have registered your BDPHD1 with us you should see a disc in the mail in about a month or so.

That sounds about right.

Other Manufacturers seem to get the CD/DVD out about
a month after the FW update becomes available on the net!

With the crystalio II I have to admit sending 480i from the Pioneer or just letting the Pioneer do 1080p yields very close resluts... :)

DVDO+WESTY=1080p:

I assume you're talking about a firmware DVD.

I gave both of the firmware DVDs that I burned to my local authorized pioneer dealer. They'll probably give at least one to one customer.

reduce, reuse, recycle.
Clearly I botched reduce -- I made two when I only needed one, just so I could write some Nero instructions.
But I think I'm safely into reuse.

thats cool, I can wait a month I haven't had any problems thus far with the BDP

thats cool, I can wait a month I haven't had any problems thus far with the BDP

So I guess you don't have internet access
and can't download the software?

What do you guys think of the upscaling ability of the BDP HD1 for SD DVD's?

For SD DVD I use 480i and get the Anthem D2 to perform all the VP.

IMHO, The Pioneer BDP-HD1 upscaling abilities for standard DVDs are not very good, compared to the Gennum VXP or Realta HQV chips for example. You definitely should send 480i from the Pioneer to the D2 and let the Gennum VXP chip do the work.

For the little test I performed the XA2 is better than the BDP-HD1. Next I want to test the noise reduction feature of the realta chip. There are still plenty of noisy encoding.

Quick question,

I have an inadequate htpc (Athlon 3800+ 2.4Ghz with 2gig ram and NVidia 7600T KO video card) and was planning on building a new one that can play blu ray and hd dvd smoothly.

Could I just use the Pioneer blu ray player and network it to my current htpc to play the hd .ts movies that I have now and forgo building/buying a htpc?

If the Pioneer can do that I would rather go that route. It would be cheaper than building a new pc and a lot more simple. My htpc does produce a nicer picture than my HD DVD player (when it isn't stuttering), but I get so tired of messing with it.

I want to have access to all of the hd movies that I have on hdd (LOTR,Matrix,etc.)

thanks

ed

I'm trying to catch up after being gone for a week, and I think your post might have gotten overlooked in the excitement of the firmware update.

I haven't used the HMG yet, but have seen it demoed. Also, I believe drhankz has reported that it won't play .TS files, but that you can rename them to .MPG files and then they will work. Don't know if that was for SD only, or also for HD. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, the demo I saw about HMG was pretty impressive; I just haven't had the time to hook it up yet.

Per my post #2001 above, I swapped my BDP-HD1 out for a new one, per Pioneer tech support.

It wouldn't turn on with the remote, only off. They said definitely not normal.

Yep, most definitely. Like I said, I don't know what I was thinking when I asked the question! :o

Perhaps a better question would be which does a better job with 480i over HDMI: the 59 AVI or the BDP-HD1?

I would say it's a toss up but I keep my 59 also for the features you mentioned and because I'm lazy I use it to play non-anamorphic SD DVDs vs setting up separate settings overlayed on a single device in the Anthem, I just use it as a separate device.

For the little test I performed the XA2 is better than the BDP-HD1. Next I want to test the noise reduction feature of the realta chip. There are still plenty of noisy encoding.

I concur, but ever so slight.

I concur, but ever so slight.

Ditto this. I could barely tell any difference at all between the BDP-HD1 and HD-XA2 upconverting Star Wars. I guess that says a lot about the BDP-HD1 since the Reon chip is supposedly so vaunted.

I tried to set up Source Direct for the 480i for SD to do some more testing vs the XA2 doing the up conversion, and it struck me that you couldn't do this through home initial setup menus but had to use the front panel. I actually like the flexibility of doing this on the front pael "quick & dirty" style, despite the unit being in a back room, but surprised I couldn't do the setting via menus also. Things that make you go hmmm. The feature more important than how you get to it, so I'm still happy with it. Maybe a minor future on screen setup consideration, but like I said minor. I would MUCH prefer more CODECs vs a menu update :) :) :)

Ditto this. I could barely tell any difference at all between the BDP-HD1 and HD-XA2 upconverting Star Wars. I guess that says a lot about the BDP-HD1 since the Reon chip is supposedly so vaunted.


You mainly see the difference on test disks during real usage I the difference start to be thin.

Yesterday I received my first European Blu-RAy, OSS117. It works fine on the Pioneer BDP-HD1. I didn’t have time to go further than a quick test. I am anxious to see if they did something with the audio going form 25fps to 24fps. I will only be able to test that Friday night.

Greetings from Vancouver.

First time poster with a couple of questions regarding my BDP-HD1.

Using the player with the Sony Pearl and am generally very happy but am wondering about the experience of others with regards to two issues:

1 The zoom button on the remote doesn't seem to do anything. I've tried with Blu-ray versus SD DVD, and with the player actually playing versus it in pause mode and cannot get any result at all. Is this normal?

2 When starting a Blu-ray disc, the player displays the copyright warning image and the other trailers, but in between each of these, the screen flickers very briefly and the projector displays the name of the selected input (HDMI 2, in my case) in the top corner of the screen in exactly the same way as when the player pj and player are first turned on. This seems to suggest that the player and the projector are transiently losing HMDI synchronisation at these times. It does NOT happen once the movie itself starts playing.

Any ideas? Any feedback appreciated.

(Of note, I have not yet applied the firmware update.)

DL

Hey everyone...just got back from spring break with family...want to download firmware upgrade using my imac G5. Dragged iso file to burn file and burned. Loaded in BDP and it just says "DATA DISC" for over 30 min and running..then shut off.

Please tell me how to burn iso file to DVD-R on imac so BDP will read upgrade. Thanks.

I just got my unit yesterday. It has an October 2006 build date. There were supposed to be two free movies in the box (Invincible and Eight Below), but I only found Invincible in there.

Anyway, I am happy to be joining the owner's club.

Mark

Congrats on joining the owner's club. :) I would contact Pioneer for the heck of it and let them know you were missing a movie. I am going to try The Descent now to see if it works for me after the upgrade...

Hey everyone...just got back from spring break with family...want to download firmware upgrade using my imac G5. Dragged iso file to burn file and burned. Loaded in BDP and it just says "DATA DISC" for over 30 min and running..then shut off.

Please tell me how to burn iso file to DVD-R on imac so BDP will read upgrade. Thanks.


Strike request...figured it out. Thanks.

Greetings from Vancouver.

First time poster with a couple of questions regarding my BDP-HD1.

Using the player with the Sony Pearl and am generally very happy but am wondering about the experience of others with regards to two issues:

1 The zoom button on the remote doesn't seem to do anything. I've tried with Blu-ray versus SD DVD, and with the player actually playing versus it in pause mode and cannot get any result at all. Is this normal?

2 When starting a Blu-ray disc, the player displays the copyright warning image and the other trailers, but in between each of these, the screen flickers very briefly and the projector displays the name of the selected input (HDMI 2, in my case) in the top corner of the screen in exactly the same way as when the player pj and player are first turned on. This seems to suggest that the player and the projector are transiently losing HMDI synchronisation at these times. It does NOT happen once the movie itself starts playing.

Any ideas? Any feedback appreciated.

(Of note, I have not yet applied the firmware update.)

DL

1 &2 are normal. My player acts the same way.

Bob

Re: #2 above. The FBI/copyright screens are 1080i. So your projector is switching back and forth between 1080i and 1080p24. Losing the HDMI handshake each time. Kind of iritiating - but normal.

^Definitely irritating, but the explanation makes sense and thanks for posting it. Although, I swear I did not notice my Pioneer Elite PRO-FHD1 do that until I watched Casino Royale.

Thanks for the replies - reassuring.

Another question - did you all receive at least one free movie in the box with the player?

There were none in mine!

DL

Mine had two: Eight Below and Invincible. Did your player have a sticker on the outside of the box indicating that there were two free movies inside? The reason I ask is that the promotion may have passed. My 60GB PS3 did not include a copy of the theatrical version of Talledega Nights, which was truly a blessing in disguise. :D

I just got my unit yesterday. It has an October 2006 build date. There were supposed to be two free movies in the box (Invincible and Eight Below), but I only found Invincible in there.

Anyway, I am happy to be joining the owner's club.

Mark


Congratulation. I hope you will enjoy this unit as much as I am.

Re: #2 above. The FBI/copyright screens are 1080i. So your projector is switching back and forth between 1080i and 1080p24. Losing the HDMI handshake each time. Kind of iritiating - but normal.

I get a brief flicker but attributed it to the resolution changing, not the HDMI losing handshake. It is brief and not too distracting. Has anyone noticed the top right corner of the FBI screen missing a bit of blue? Looks like a fish eye lens! I've seen it on a couple of movies - maybe just Disney ones; can't remember.

Got Chicken Little and watched it last night. Absolutely fantastic; every bit as good as the demo IMO. The digital Disney castle at the beginning was stunning. Bodes well for future animation - can't wait to see Cars and the 2 Pirate movies. Hard to believe I'm watching this on a 768 panel!

Also, there was a HUGE difference in audio quality between uncompressed PCM and the DD track, even to my little panel speakers. I'm just using the supplied speakers with my panel until I hook up my receiver - they are not too bad. Anyway, the PCM sound field was amazing. I really think I would be fine if all the BD discs included the uncompressed PCM track.

I just got my unit yesterday. It has an October 2006 build date.

Mark

If Pioneer is still selling new units that were manufactured 6 months ago there must be a problem with sales. We have been led to believe that these units sell out as fast as they can be produced, but apparently there is a warehouse full of first production run ones still sitting around waiting to be sold. :rolleyes: Pioneer must not be happy about this situation.

If Pioneer is still selling new units that were manufactured 6 months ago there must be a problem with sales. We have been led to believe that these units sell out as fast as they can be produced, but apparently there is a warehouse full of first production run ones still sitting around waiting to be sold. :rolleyes: Pioneer must not be happy about this situation.

I thought it was strange too - that a newly bought unit would have an Oct 2006 build date. Maybe it depends on where you buy it. Some stores may move product slower than others.

I just got my unit yesterday. It has an October 2006 build date. There were supposed to be two free movies in the box (Invincible and Eight Below), but I only found Invincible in there.

Anyway, I am happy to be joining the owner's club.

Mark

I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine. However, an 10/06 build date sounds fishy to me. My memory is Chris Walker said the first units came into the USA around Thanksgiving and Pioneer spent 3-4 weeks doing QC on the Firmware. The first units were available for sale to the public shortly before XMAS (12/20?). I received mine on 1/12 and it's build date is 12/06.

Some stores may move product slower than others.And some warehouses may not be as efficient at rotating stock. Back in my retail days, we were constantly shipped older units than the ones we'd been selling.

azjya

did you all receive at least one free movie in the box with the player?

American customers are (were?) getting two free DVDs.
Canadian customers got no DVDs, but did get manuals in both French and English.

Thanks for the replies - reassuring.

Another question - did you all receive at least one free movie in the box with the player?

There were none in mine!

DL

I'm in the Vancouver area, too. Bought my player locally a couple of weeks ago - no free discs for me, either...
But I love the image I'm getting from the player, despite the fact that I'm not even sending a native 1080p signal, yet.

I'm using a Lumagen HDQ scaler, and since my PJ (CRT) is not HDCP-compliant, the Lumagen defeats the HDMI signal from BDP-HD1 and defaults to the component feed (but then processes that signal up to 1080p output).

I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine. However, an 10/06 build date sounds fishy to me. My memory is Chris Walker said the first units came into the USA around Thanksgiving and Pioneer spent 3-4 weeks doing QC on the Firmware. The first units were available for sale to the public shortly before XMAS (12/20?). I received mine on 1/12 and it's build date is 12/06.

Given the concern, I double-checked, and it is an October 2006 build. This was an accomodation purchase, so you can't have everything for 58% of MSRP! When I saw that, I figured they gave me the "old stock". I'm not worried, though...it seems to work fine.

I just discovered I don't have a DVD-R or DVD-RW burner on any of my windows PC's, so I can't make the update disc. I have an iMac, so maybe I can do it with that.

Argh.

Mark

I managed to download the files using an iMac and burned them to a DVD-R. The disc ejected saying it failed to complete, but the 4 files are there. Here is what is on the disc:

Branded 1Kb
P0001.bin 1Kb
P0002.bin 49,271Kb
P0003.bin 1Kb

I don't know if I should try popping in the disc and see what happens?

Mark

I tried the disc (living on the edge, here) and it just showed a data disc.

Mark

Are you burning the whole ISO as an ISO, not just copying files?

Are you burning the whole ISO as an ISO, not just copying files?

Rudolph, I used the iMac to download it, and the four files showed up individually in Finder.

I am new to Mac's, so forgive my ignorance.

Mark

Rudolph, I used the iMac to download it, and the four files showed up individually in Finder.

I am new to Mac's, so forgive my ignorance.

Mark


Hopefully there is a mac person around to give advice on burning ISO's. The DVD is forwmated in such a way as to trigger the Pio that it's a firmware update, like the old bootable CDs, so just copying the 4 files will not do the trick. If you left-click (command click) on the xxx.iso you may get an option to burn a DVD. There should some freeware ISO burning utilities for the mac if you hunt around.

Hopefully there is a mac person around to give advice on burning ISO's. The DVD is forwmated in such a way as to trigger the Pio that it's a firmware update, like the old bootable CDs, so just copying the 4 files will not do the trick. If you left-click (command click) on the xxx.iso you may get an option to burn a DVD. There should some freeware ISO burning utilities for the mac if you hunt around.

I speak MAC Lingo - but I don't even know if
an iMac has a DVD Burner.

I got my unit in December and it had a December build date...

I got my unit in December and it had a December build date...

Me too...I got one of the very first units back on December 20th and it too has a December build date.

I speak MAC Lingo - but I don't even know if
an iMac has a DVD Burner.

It does have a DVD Burner. Given the other problems MAC users have experienced, I was just thinking to order the disc from Pioneer. Besides, my theater is not yet completed.

Mark

It does have a DVD Burner. Given the other problems MAC users have experienced, I was just thinking to order the disc from Pioneer. Besides, my theater is not yet completed.

Mark

If you are sure it has a DVD burner - then you just
need to TOAST it [GRIN]! You do need DVD-R media
as well.

I'm not sure what software you tried before - but Toast
has always worked on my MACs. Built-in MAC software
has not worked well.

But if you are in NO RUSH - then you can just wait for
Pioneer to mail you one.

azjya



American customers are (were?) getting two free DVDs.
Canadian customers got no DVDs, but did get manuals in both French and English.


You see at least we got something in exchange :mad:

If you are sure it has a DVD burner - then you just
need to TOAST it [GRIN]! You do need DVD-R media
as well.

I'm not sure what software you tried before - but Toast
has always worked on my MACs. Built-in MAC software
has not worked well.

But if you are in NO RUSH - then you can just wait for
Pioneer to mail you one.

The only thing I wasn't clear on is if they automatically mail out update discs to all registered owner's or do I need to call them. Anyone know for sure?

Thanks.

Mark

I got my unit in December and it had a December build date...


Same for me.

The only thing I wasn't clear on is if they automatically mail out update discs to all registered owner's or do I need to call them. Anyone know for sure?

Thanks.

Mark

Can a call HURT to be Sure?

giomania - if you don't want to wait for an update disc from Pioneer, I concur with drhankz's suggestion to use Roxio Toast DVD burning software. I tried to make an update disc with my PowerMac G5 using just the operating system's tools and had no success. I downloaded Toast from the Roxio site (for $99 less a $30 rebate) and made a good update disc on the first try. You can also order Toast from places like Amazon for as little as $55 or $60. I figured I'd get other uses out of Toast, so it was worth it to me.

Again thanks for the replied.

I have another question - this time regarding the Casino Royale disc.

As mentioned in previous post - I'm using the BDP-HD1 via HDMI into Sony Pearl.

With the player in 1080p 24 mode there are serious stuttering issues.

These are especially noticeable in the title credit sequence with the moving "banners" and shapes against which the credits are projected. These "banners" (for want of a better word) are meant to move at a constant rate, but in this mode, have a regular stutter to them.

Even more noticeable is the scene at the end of the initial chase sequence.

Bond has just shot all the baddies in the yard of the embassy and he hops over a wall or hedge so that he can unpack the bad guy's bag. He finds a homemade bomb and a cellphone. This part has so much stuttering that it is unwatchable in 1080p 24 mode.

What is really odd, is that when I switch to 1080p 60 mode, all the aforementioned problems disappear.

I've examined the disc itself and it appears flawless.

I haven't yet applied the firmware update. Does anyone know whether or not this will cure the problem?

DL

As mentioned in previous post - I'm using the BDP-HD1 via HDMI into Sony Pearl.

With the player in 1080p 24 mode there are serious stuttering issues.


The Pearl needs some "special" timings to work properly with certain scalers and displays.

For example, I don't have any stuttering issues with the BDP-HD1 and my new JVC HD-1 (with the Anthem D2 in between). Pio at 1080p24 to my D2, then D2 out at 1080p24 to the JVC. Casino Royale is smooooth. :D

Again thanks for the replied.

I have another question - this time regarding the Casino Royale disc.

As mentioned in previous post - I'm using the BDP-HD1 via HDMI into Sony Pearl.

With the player in 1080p 24 mode there are serious stuttering issues.

I've examined the disc itself and it appears flawless.

I haven't yet applied the firmware update. Does anyone know whether or not this will cure the problem?

DL

Your Theater does not seem to having any device in the
HDMI path between the BDP-HD1 and the Pearl.

Therefore LEVESQUE's comment about special Pearl
timings is impossible to do.

Levesque is right - Pearl owners have had special needs
when trying to display 1080p/24 material.

What you don't say is - HAS 1080p/24 worked for you
before with other Blu-Ray Movies?

We were told by Chris [Pioneer] that Casino Royale did
need the FW update to operate properly - but he did
not provide more detail than that.

giomania - if you don't want to wait for an update disc from Pioneer, I concur with drhankz's suggestion to use Roxio Toast DVD burning software. I tried to make an update disc with my PowerMac G5 using just the operating system's tools and had no success. I downloaded Toast from the Roxio site (for $99 less a $30 rebate) and made a good update disc on the first try. You can also order Toast from places like Amazon for as little as $55 or $60. I figured I'd get other uses out of Toast, so it was worth it to me.

I'm sure I have a relative with a DVD burner, so will try that route today.

Thanks for the assistance.

Mark

Yes - The Italian Job, Babel, U2 Rattle & Hum all seem to play fine in 1080p 24 with the Pearl.

DL

Yes - The Italian Job, Babel, U2 Rattle & Hum all seem to play fine in 1080p 24 with the Pearl.

DL

Then MAYBE the FW update will fix the problem.

Like I said - Chris said it was necessary for CR - but was not specific.

azjya:

The firmware update fixes what you observed. I watched Casino Royalle before the firmware update and saw what you saw, and I watched Casino Royale after the firmware update and that went away.

With the player in 1080p 24 mode there are serious stuttering issues.

These are especially noticeable in the title credit sequence with the moving "banners" and shapes against which the credits are projected. These "banners" (for want of a better word) are meant to move at a constant rate, but in this mode, have a regular stutter to them.

Even more noticeable is the scene at the end of the initial chase sequence.

Bond has just shot all the baddies in the yard of the embassy and he hops over a wall or hedge so that he can unpack the bad guy's bag. He finds a homemade bomb and a cellphone. This part has so much stuttering that it is unwatchable in 1080p 24 mode.

What is really odd, is that when I switch to 1080p 60 mode, all the aforementioned problems disappear.

Funny that you should mention this, as I just experienced this exact same behavior with my Pioneer Elite BDP-HD1 playing the new Eragon Blu-ray Disc with 24p Direct Out set to On. Setting 24p Direct Out to Off seem to eliminate nearly all the stuttering. In fact, it could have eliminated all of it, sometimes it is hard to discern stutter from cinematography. Anway, the twist here is that I have applied the most recent firmware update.

I am going directly from the BDP-HD1 to a Pioneer Elite PRO-FHD1, so there should be no timing issues to speak of like there supposedly are with the Sony Pearl.

I thought it was strange to see this problem with this particular Blu-ray, as it is a MPEG-2 encode, but I think that the Pioneer guys need to do a bit more extensive testing with the BDP-HD1 and this particular disc (Eragon).

Edited to add:

If it adds any value, and I'm not sure it does, I experienced no problems like this watching Casino Royale with the most recent firmware update.

I was wondering for everyone that has done the FW update, has anyone tried playing The Guardian using enhanced Java mode? I just received Chicken Little today and it has a very similiar enhanced Java mode that you can watch the directors commentary along with all kinds of interactive features that strictly requires the latest BD-J, like the PS3 has. I know with the FW update for the Pioneer, Chris said that it would update to the same Java interface as the PS3 currently has. I for one did not get a chance yet to try The Guardian or Chicken Little, so if I don't try it today I will definitely try it tomorrow.

Again thanks for the replied.

I have another question - this time regarding the Casino Royale disc.

As mentioned in previous post - I'm using the BDP-HD1 via HDMI into Sony Pearl.

With the player in 1080p 24 mode there are serious stuttering issues.
The Sony BDP-S1 has the exact same issue.

These are especially noticeable in the title credit sequence with the moving "banners" and shapes against which the credits are projected. These "banners" (for want of a better word) are meant to move at a constant rate, but in this mode, have a regular stutter to them.
Yep, I saw it on the Sony at the exact same point in the movie

What is really odd, is that when I switch to 1080p 60 mode, all the aforementioned problems disappear.
Also the same with the Sony. It may only be an issue with AVC encoded discs. Paidgeek has said over on the insider's thread that there may be a firmware fix by April.

--
Steve

Also the same with the Sony. It may only be an issue with AVC encoded discs.

According to HighDefDigest, Eragon is an MPEG-2 encode, and I am having similar issues to the ones azjya reported on Casino Royale even with the BDP-HD1's latest firmware upgrade.

Well.. I appear to have a much more serious problem. I will know more tomorrow, after I try a few discs, but tonight I was trying to watch Stranger Than Fiction, on my newly firmware updated unit. Every couple of minutes, there would be multiple drop outs, to a blue no signal screen. I swapped cables, bypassed my scaler, did everything I could think of, but finally switched to the component output of the HD1, and watched the rest of the movie.

I am assuming, that if it was the disc that was deffective, the component output would have had some sort of drop out as well, but it was fine. I am afraid that my HDMI is hosed, either from the firmware, or some other bug. I will try some more discs, including ones I played before to see if I can figure out what is going on.

I am very dissapointed in this unit. :(

Sorry to hear that Phil. I will be pretty upset if I have similar issues when I get mine. I chose the Pioneer over the Sony based largely on the number of posts in the Sony thread talking about playback issues with that player, and people in this thread appearing to have more stable playback. The extra cost is worth having more stability. Take that away and..... :mad:

It does have a DVD Burner. Given the other problems MAC users have experienced, I was just thinking to order the disc from Pioneer. Besides, my theater is not yet completed.

Mark


I have a G5 with DVD burner and had to download file from pioneer web site as zip file and used "stuffit expander" (available online www.stuffit.com/mac/index.html) to extract file. Once saved on desktop as .iso file, I opened finder, selected applications, selected utilities, selected disk utility, selected .iso file in left window and then clicked burn located on top row. This is the process Apple suggests to save file as "image". Once burned, loaded in BDP and successfully updated firmware. That easy. Hope this helps.

We watched Rocky tonite and Eragon last night. No issues at all. Both movies played and looked great. Sorry to read of your HDMI issue Phil. Hopefully unplugging it and restarting it will help....

We watched Rocky tonite and Eragon last night. No issues at all. Both movies played and looked great. Sorry to read of your HDMI issue Phil. Hopefully unplugging it and restarting it will help....

Check for issues on Rocky at 1080p24 right near the beginning when Rocky closes the window in the kitchen and steps outside the house.

--
Steve

I will go back and look but I do not recall having an issue...

We watched Rocky tonite and Eragon last night. No issues at all. Both movies played and looked great. Sorry to read of your HDMI issue Phil. Hopefully unplugging it and restarting it will help....

We watched Eragon and The Holiday last night without incidence. Both movies were surprisingly excellent for content, picture quality and audio. Eragon was far beyond my expectaions, considering the bashing it has taken on parts of AVS. These false reviews are getting far too common place on AVS... but so are a lot of things these days! :eek:

My HD1 has NEVER glitched on any disc (Descent would not play before update) and none since the update (Descent plays fine now).

I too am sorry for those having problems.

Yeah my soon to be adopted daughter Olivia (who is 7.5 years old) actually liked Eragon. And she can be picky. She told me never to buy Th Wild because it is "not good" which bugs me because I read here it has great picture Q. :eek:

I have a G5 with DVD burner and had to download file from pioneer web site as zip file and used "stuffit expander" (available online www.stuffit.com/mac/index.html) to extract file. Once saved on desktop as .iso file, I opened finder, selected applications, selected utilities, selected disk utility, selected .iso file in left window and then clicked burn located on top row. This is the process Apple suggests to save file as "image". Once burned, loaded in BDP and successfully updated firmware. That easy. Hope this helps.

Thanks, I will give it a shot.

Mark

joerod, Ray Cathode, etc.

For those of you who played Eragon without incident, did you have 24p Direct Out set to Yes? I take it you did, but I would like to be sure. If so, I wonder what could be the problem on my end, as I have successfully played 1080p/24fps before going directly from my BPD-HD1 to my PRO-FHD1.

Edited to add:

It never occurred to me to stop the player and try playing with 24fps again. I should have done this with Eragon, but I have already returned it to Netflix. I will agree with those that thought this movie took a somewhat needless critical pounding. Once you can get past the liberal and rather blatent lifts from its inspiration, it is a pretty enjoyable movie.

I have a G5 with DVD burner and had to download file from pioneer web site as zip file and used "stuffit expander" (available online www.stuffit.com/mac/index.html) to extract file. Once saved on desktop as .iso file, I opened finder, selected applications, selected utilities, selected disk utility, selected .iso file in left window and then clicked burn located on top row. This is the process Apple suggests to save file as "image". Once burned, loaded in BDP and successfully updated firmware. That easy. Hope this helps.

Brenzo, I obtained a free trial of Stuffit, but I am unable to figure out how to download the file from Pioneer as a .zip file. I have tried stopping the download before it expands, and then adding it to Finder, but this was not sucessful.

I appreciate any assistance you can provide.

Thanks.

Mark

Brenzo, I obtained a free trial of Stuffit, but I am unable to figure out how to download the file from Pioneer as a .zip file. I have tried stopping the download before it expands, and then adding it to Finder, but this was not sucessful.

I appreciate any assistance you can provide.

Thanks.

Mark

OK, I figured it out. I just let it download and it did not expand. I don't know what happened in prior attempts.

I burned the disc and will try it now!

Thanks for your help.

Mark

I spent more time this morning, trying to re-create the PDP-HD1 HDMI glitch with other titles, and so far have not seen it.

Anyone else with Stranger Than Fiction have problems? I am wondering if it is a defective disc. Wouldn't there be drop outs on the component output as well, if the disc was defective?

OK, I figured it out. I just let it download and it did not expand. I don't know what happened in prior attempts.

I burned the disc and will try it now!

Thanks for your help.

Mark

I assume you were successful?

I assume you were successful?

Brenzo, my apologies. I was cleaning up the basement post drywall...they left a mess.

It was sucessful, and it only took about six minutes total.

Thanks again.

It is a good route for Mac users, since you can get Stuffit for a free trial period...no need to purchase any additional software.

Mark

More input to my freeze/drop out problem, after firmware upgrade.. I had the same thing happen on Flight of the Phoenix, so it doesn't appear to be a disc related issue. Also, I went back and played Stranger Than Fiction, and it didn't drop out in the same places.

Finally, I got League of Extraordinary Gentleman to play, after an interminably long load time, and it froze up completely after a few chapters. The entire BDP-HD1 was non functional, until I re-booted.

If it is not better after rebooting I would contact Pioneer first thing Monday morning...

Rebooting doesn't seem to change anything, other than make it functional again. I rebooted it a lot last night, but was stil having drop outs. Unfortunately, this is an intermittent issue. I usually have to watch 20 or more minutes of a movie, before I see a problem. Some discs play fine. I have a feeling that Pioneer would send it back and say there is no problem. That is just my experience with these issues, they don't put in the time necessary to reproduce them.

Unfortunately, all it takes is one major glitch to ruin a movie. I now have 32 Blu-Ray movies, so I have quite a bit invested. I wish there was another alternative, that was more reliable.

I would try to do the firmware over (using a different disc). You never know... Maybe something just did not go right... I had the same thing happen with an Onkyo SP1000 before...

I had the firmware downloading in the player for over 60 minutes, and thought "Oh, No" it is hosed. I performed the power off, per the instructions, and it resumed when powered on. this time, I noticed that there was a dash blinking in the display, between the words, that wasn't happening before. It finished up, and I checked the firmware and it had been upgraded. Whew. :)

I noticed you are having drop out problems, after the upgrade.

But the posting above also says you had an upgrade problem for
DAY ONE.

None of us who did the upgrade took more than 8 Minutes.

I think your upgrade went wrong somewhere :confused:

You have a point, but before the upgrade, the Descent wouldn't play, and after it would. I would think if an upgrade went wrong, if wouldn't take at all, not some parts better, and some parts worse.

Has anyone played Stranger than Fiction since the upgrade?

Just wanted to give an update -

Following my applying the new firmware this morning, the stuttering problems previously seen with "Casino Royale" appear to have resolved. Have not watched the whole film through yet but we watched "The Holiday" this evening which played through without any problems.

As before, thanks for the input.

DL

I rented The Descent just because I wanted to make sure my player could play it. Well it will after a very long load period. Then after it did load I took it out and put in Hoosiers. for some reason the remote would not respond to the on screen menu. It only would play the movie. Well, after rebooting it worked perfectly. I would have to say this occured because of The Descent. For some reason loading that title caused it to act up. Since the first night after firmware everytitle has worked perfectly (6-8)...

I rented The Descent just because I wanted to make sure my player could play it. Well it will after a very long load period. Then after it did load I took it out and put in Hoosiers. for some reason the remote would not respond to the on screen menu. It only would play the movie. Well, after rebooting it worked perfectly. I would have to say this occured because of The Descent. For some reason loading that title caused it to act up. Since the first night after firmware everytitle has worked perfectly (6-8)...

Joe - you know those horror movies - all blood and guts.

It probably left some blood and guts behind sitting in the Blu Laser :p

Well, I watched The Transporter with 24p Direct Out turned On last night, and I had no issues. So, I'm leaning to my stuttering issue being something in particular with the Eragon BD. Though, I probably should've rebooted my BDP-HD1 and tried it again with 24p Direct Out On before immediately switching 24p Direct Out off, but 4-year-olds can be an impatient sort. :)

Well, I watched The Transporter with 24p Direct Out turned On last night, and I had no issues. So, I'm leaning to my stuttering issue being something in particular with the Eragon BD. Though, I probably should've rebooted my BDP-HD1 and tried it again with 24p Direct Out On before immediately switching 24p Direct Out off, but 4-year-olds can be an impatient sort. :)

Paul-

I must say that I am very impressed! You are very articulate and spell and type quite well for a 4 year old! I never had a clue!

:D

Rob Tomlin:

"Boys and their toys."

:D

lol I meant my son, not me. Although I'm just as impatient to be sure. ;)

Last night I tried playing The Guardian in Enhanced Mode. After a long waiting period (about 5 minutes), a loading type of icon appeared. It finally came up to a different type of main menu screen, which included a new option for the Film Maker Q&A. I selected that option and it appeared that it was going to play. After a few seconds a message popped up that said something like, "Your player does not support this function, check with the players manufacturer for more details". This was a lot further than I was able to get before the FW update with this movie in Enhanced Mode. I then tried Chicken Little. That has a similiar type Q&A feature that requires an enhanced Java engine. This feature is right in the main menu, no standard and enhanced modes like The Guardian has. I selected this option and right away it popped up and began to load. It took a minute or so and this one actually works. Pretty cool feature, has all kinds of questions you can ask the film maker while the movie is playing. This feature worked perfectly, so not sure why The Guardian one does not work. I might try it again just for fun tomorrow...Oh, BTW, Chicken Little probably has the BEST PQ of any BD movie right now, or at least out of all the ones I own. The whole movie the bitrate was pretty much in the mids 30's and peaked out at almost 49kbs! The PQ was just stunning!

Last night I tried playing The Guardian in Enhanced Mode.

The Guardian uses some special feature that NONE of the Blu-Ray
players supports. I tried to find my e-mail from Chris Walker,
explaining it - but I could not find it. I do know whatever is in
this first FW update does not ADD capabilities to handle the
Guardian's Advance Feature.

drhankz:

The Guardian uses some special feature that NONE of the Blu-Ray players supports.I thought it worked on the PS3 -- and used a bunch of that supercomputer graphics ability the PS3 has.

drhankz:

I thought it worked on the PS3 -- and used a bunch of that supercomputer graphics ability the PS3 has.

What do I know about a PS3?

I have a BDP-HD1 ;)

The Gentlemen was asking about Guardian on his BDP-HD1

Yeah my soon to be adopted daughter Olivia (who is 7.5 years old) actually liked Eragon. And she can be picky. She told me never to buy Th Wild because it is "not good" which bugs me because I read here it has great picture Q. :eek:


Get Open Season

:D

lol I meant my son, not me. Although I'm just as impatient to be sure. ;)
:D

I currently own the Sony BDP-S1 and am having some problems:

1) Terrible judder when in 24p mode w/ AVC codecs (supposedly a firmware fix is coming at some point).

2) LOUD (speaker threatening) snapping noise emanates through front speakers when I "release" pause during a movie. (maybe a pre-amp compatibility problem?)

3) When using w/ my 1998 36" 4:3 Sony XBR TV - aspect ratios (1:85/2:35) are displayed incorrectly (both SD and BD discs) - and Sony Service says they are aware of this - but no firmware fix is coming. (Sometimes I like to watch BR disc extras on a conventional TV to keep hours off of my JVC RS1 projector.

Other irritants:

4) When hitting “display off” on the remote - 2 very bright lights stay illuminated on the front panel. These are also buttons (on/off and eject) - so I can’t cover them w/ black tape.

5) Chapter skips are very slow and cumbersome. Many times it chapters too far ahead or behind. And I have to repeat the function. (Difficult to get to the exact chapter I want - unless I use the scenes menu).

6) Scanning kinda sucks - as the unit some times displays a freeze frame for a second or two - then takes off with very course (frame skipping) action.

Does any of your BDP-HD1's have these issues?

I’m going down to Costa Mesa tomorrow to the Pioneer store to test a BDP-HD1 in person. If I like it - the Sony BDP-S1 is history.

Thanks! For any input you can give me.

P.S.
I still use a Pioneer Elite LDS-1 laserdisc player manufactured in 1987. It has never been repaired - and still works perfectly. I just used it last Summer to dub over 100 laserdiscs to DVD-R. So I already have a very high regard for Pioneer Elite equipment. :)

Yesterday I received my first European Blu-RAy, OSS117. It works fine on the Pioneer BDP-HD1. I didn’t have time to go further than a quick test. I am anxious to see if they did something with the audio going form 25fps to 24fps. I will only be able to test that Friday night.


During the week-end I watched OSS117 and Casino Royale. I enjoyed a lot more OSS117 which is quite funny.

Both played flawlessly even OSS117 which is a Blu-Ray imported from France

OK, here we go.... I called my dealer this morning, to see if I could get my buggy BDP-HD1 fixed. He called his Pioneer rep, and got a tech support number for me to call.

I called the number, and the tech answered "Blue Ray Department". I proceeded to tell him that I was having problems with the Pioneer Blu-Ray DVD player, and he responded, "Which One"? I said, don't you only have one, and he said, "yeah, I guess so". So I told him that I have been having HDMI video drop outs, since the last firmware upgrade, and he said "what reciever are you using"? I said, this is not an audio issue, it is a video issue, and it is not going through a reciever. I continued to tell him how the last firmware upgrade caused the problems, and he said, "What firmware upgrade"? I said, the one you posted on your web site, version 2.0. There was a loooooooong pause (like 3 minutes, while I heard him shuffling papers) and finally he said, "You are going to have to call customer service, because I have no information on this". So... I called customer service, and followed the prompts to the repair department, and got a recording asking me to enter my zip code, and then a recording of all the dealers in my area started playing!!!

Nice Job Pioneer. :(

I’m going down to Costa Mesa tomorrow to the Pioneer store to test a BDP-HD1 in person. If I like it - the Sony BDP-S1 is history.

Thanks! For any input you can give me.


Bring your material with you and see Jeff Hagg in the store.
I'm sure he will let you try your own material. Then you will
see for yourself - none of those SONY FEATURES ;) are in
the Pioneer.

In fact the ICON Below shows how us Pioneer Owners FEEL :p

http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

Nice Job Pioneer. :(

I'll see what little help I can be - standby.

Bring your material with you and see Jeff Hagg in the store.
I'm sure he will let you try your own material. Then you will
see for yourself - none of those SONY FEATURES ;) are in
the Pioneer.

In fact the ICON Below shows how us Pioneer Owners FEEL :p

http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

Hey! I thought the smiley/bouncey icon was reserved for new Anthem D2/AVM50 owners!?

But, since I will own the BDP-HD1 too, I guess it's ok! :D

The Guardian uses some special feature that NONE of the Blu-Ray
players supports. I tried to find my e-mail from Chris Walker,
explaining it - but I could not find it. I do know whatever is in
this first FW update does not ADD capabilities to handle the
Guardian's Advance Feature.

As per the leaflet that comes with The Guardian, it says that the PS3 and computer Blu-ray drives play the Enhanced Mode. As I understood the info from Chris, the FW was supposed to update the Java engine to the same as the PS3, which is what is required to play the Enhanced Mode. I could be wrong but I thought this is what was going to happen. It is just weird because Chicken Little and The Guardian are both Disney and they bascially have the same exact Q&A feature that requires the more advanced version of the Java engine, and Chicken Little plays fine while The Guardian does not.

I'll see what little help I can be - standby.

Thanks for looking into this for me. I called my dealer back, and he checked with his Pioneer rep again, and the guy gave him the customer service number. My dealer called to see if he could get my unit serviced, and ended up getting the same recording of the dealers in the area!!

This is unbelievable, and has me giving serious thought as to whether or not I will EVER buy another Pioneer product. It is one thing to have a piece of unreliable equipment, and another thing entirely, to make it next to impossible to even contact someone for repair.

When I had problems with my first generation Toshiba HD-DVD player (my second gen unit has had no trouble) I had no problem getting in touch with the repair department, they also went way out of the way to get my unit repaired, even though it was out of warranty, charged me nothing for it, and the complete turnaround time was a week. This impressed me so much, that I had no problem buying their second generation unit, which is fantastic.

The sad thing is that the service I recieved from Toshiba, should not surprise me, it should be the norm. Unfortunately it is more likely to run into the type of service that Pioneer provides, as they seek to distance themselves from the consumer, and make it as difficult as possible to get after the sale support. :(

If Chris Walker is monitoring this thread, it would be great to see if he could step in and lend a hand.

Thanks for looking into this for me. I called my dealer back, and he checked with his Pioneer rep again, and the guy gave him the customer service number. My dealer called to see if he could get my unit serviced, and ended up getting the same recording of the dealers in the area!!

This is unbelievable, and has me giving serious thought as to whether or not I will EVER buy another Pioneer product. It is one thing to have a piece of unreliable equipment, and another thing entirely, to make it next to impossible to even contact someone for repair.

When I had problems with my first generation Toshiba HD-DVD player (my second gen unit has had no trouble) I had no problem getting in touch with the repair department, they also went way out of the way to get my unit repaired, even though it was out of warranty, charged me nothing for it, and the complete turnaround time was a week. This impressed me so much, that I had no problem buying their second generation unit, which is fantastic.

The sad thing is that the service I recieved from Toshiba, should not surprise me, it should be the norm. Unfortunately it is more likely to run into the type of service that Pioneer provides, as they seek to distance themselves from the consumer, and make it as difficult as possible to get after the sale support. :(

Sorry you are having these problems. I have owned several pieces of Pioneer/Elite equipment over the years, including 2 LD players still going, and I've never had any of the problems you are experiencing. I did have a vertical line on an older plasma panel that they were not able to fix, but they treated me well in the process.

I'm sure that someone up the chain can help. I've found their tech support to be quite friendly and useful; maybe I've been lucky. Anyway, don't give up, because this unit is fantastic when it is functioning properly.

Firmware update took about 6 minutes here; I wonder if something happened with yours - just enough to finish some code but not enough to finish the rest. Try it again if you get a chance.

...Oh, BTW, Chicken Little probably has the BEST PQ of any BD movie right now, or at least out of all the ones I own. The whole movie the bitrate was pretty much in the mids 30's and peaked out at almost 49kbs! The PQ was just stunning!

Completely agree - I haven't tried the Java stuff yet, but the PQ is outstanding all the way through.

Sorry you are having these problems. I have owned several pieces of Pioneer/Elite equipment over the years, including 2 LD players still going, and I've never had any of the problems you are experiencing. I did have a vertical line on an older plasma panel that they were not able to fix, but they treated me well in the process.

I'm sure that someone up the chain can help. I've found their tech support to be quite friendly and useful; maybe I've been lucky. Anyway, don't give up, because this unit is fantastic when it is functioning properly.

Firmware update took about 6 minutes here; I wonder if something happened with yours - just enough to finish some code but not enough to finish the rest. Try it again if you get a chance.


I don't think I want to run the firmware again. I followed their instructions to the letter, and it said, if it took longer than an hour, to stop and run again. Once I did that, it appeared to update properly. Running it again, with the firmware now reading 2.0, might make things worse, and since I can't get a hold of anyone at Pioneer to help me, I may be stuck with this player as it is, so I don't want to make it any worse.

Since you have had good luck with the Pioneer tech support, I would love to have that number. I have been unable to get a hold of anyone who could help me, so if anyone has a number that goes to something other than a recording, I would appreciate it.

I just sent Chris a PM. Hopefully he will respond.

OK, here we go.... I called my dealer this morning, to see if I could get my buggy BDP-HD1 fixed. He called his Pioneer rep, and got a tech support number for me to call.

I called the number, and the tech answered "Blue Ray Department". I proceeded to tell him that I was having problems with the Pioneer Blu-Ray DVD player, and he responded, "Which One"? I said, don't you only have one, and he said, "yeah, I guess so". So I told him that I have been having HDMI video drop outs, since the last firmware upgrade, and he said "what reciever are you using"? I said, this is not an audio issue, it is a video issue, and it is not going through a reciever. I continued to tell him how the last firmware upgrade caused the problems, and he said, "What firmware upgrade"? I said, the one you posted on your web site, version 2.0. There was a loooooooong pause (like 3 minutes, while I heard him shuffling papers) and finally he said, "You are going to have to call customer service, because I have no information on this". So... I called customer service, and followed the prompts to the repair department, and got a recording asking me to enter my zip code, and then a recording of all the dealers in my area started playing!!!

Nice Job Pioneer. :(

Why isnt your dealer the one calling Pioneer or their rep???
Doesnt make sense ...

Had a few freeze ups on units and the firmware 2.0 seems to have been a fix so far. It took about 15 minutes to complete. On one unit I had to power the player down and then reboot. No big deal. Maybe the firmware upgrade wasnt completed properly. You have to wait till the unit goes back into standby mode by itself.

Why isnt your dealer the one calling Pioneer or their rep???
Doesnt make sense ...

My dealer is trying to call Pioneer as well. but can't get a hold of anyone. His rep, gave him the number for tech support, but that guy didn't know anything, and forwarded me to the customer service recording.

I did complete the firmware upgrade, and the unit went into standby.

I don't think I want to run the firmware again. I followed their instructions to the letter, and it said, if it took longer than an hour, to stop and run again. Once I did that, it appeared to update properly. Running it again, with the firmware now reading 2.0, might make things worse, and since I can't get a hold of anyone at Pioneer to help me, I may be stuck with this player as it is, so I don't want to make it any worse.

Since you have had good luck with the Pioneer tech support, I would love to have that number. I have been unable to get a hold of anyone who could help me, so if anyone has a number that goes to something other than a recording, I would appreciate it.

I've always started with the main number in the back of the manual. We have just moved and I don't have them handy, but it is the 800 number in the back.

Understand your concerns about the firmware, but I don't see how it could hurt to try again. If it detects that it has completed correctly, it shouldn't update again. However, it is your money, your call. I would also continually try to contact Pioneer; you'll get someone different each time. Maybe I missed it earlier in the thread (sorry if I did) - will your dealer not exchange the unit?

You have a point. I just started the download again. Even though it showed that it had the firmware installed, it is re-downloading it now. I will watch a few movies after it is done, and let you all know..........

NemoZorro

I've always started with the main number in the back of the manual. We have just moved and I don't have them handy, but it is the 800 number in the back.My BDP-HD1's manual's back cover has numbers for Pioneer in 7 different countries, and 3 different "pioneer customer satisfaction departments" one of which speaks French.
It also refers to "Pioneer Authorized Service Companies" in Canada, and "Pioneer Authorized Independant Service Companies" in the USA (no names/numbers given).

NemoZorro

My BDP-HD1's manual's back cover has numbers for Pioneer in 7 different countries, and 3 different "pioneer customer satisfaction departments" one of which speaks French.
It also refers to "Pioneer Authorized Service Companies" in Canada, and "Pioneer Authorized Independant Service Companies" in the USA (no names/numbers given).

800-421-1625 is in the back of the BDP-HD1 owner's manual that I just downloaded from their site. Not sure if that is the same one I used last time I called them; it has been a couple of years.

That Long Beach number might be good to use as well: 800-421-1404

Free - sure hope you can get a resolution soon; it really stinks to have a problem.

OK, the download went fine, everything by the book. The first disc I put in, I watched for about 10 minutes with no problems, and then things started to fall apart again. Seems that it needs to get warmed up before the drop outs start. Then, every disc I put in after that, had freeze ups and drop outs.

I called my dealer, and he said he would be happy to swap out my unit, but he doesn't have any to swap with, and probably won't until at least May.

I called the customer service number above, as well as the Long Beach number, and the voice prompts for repair, still just take you to a listing of local dealers. I decided to do an end run around the system, and pressed the voice prompt for installation assistance. I got a human, and pleaded my case to him, about how it was impossible to get to repair. He was very helpful, and even though it was the wrong department, he understood that this was not an ordinary repair case, that a local service center could handle. He issued me a case number and transferred me to a rep, who set up the return. If all goes well, I should have a call tag in the next 3-5 days, and then it is a 7-10 day turnaround for the repair.

I will keep you all informed about the process, and thanks everyone for your help and concern. :)

I have not bought a HD DVD since Miami Vice in December.

But THE GOOD SHEPHERD is being released next Tuesday
ONLY in HD DVD format. So I ordered it.

I have not bought a HD DVD since Miami Vice in December.

But THE GOOD SHEPHERD is being released next Tuesday
ONLY in HD DVD format. So I ordered it.

Thanks for the heads up, would give me something to watch while my HD1 is in the shop. Is it worth a blind buy? Have you seen it? I am reading it is a bit long and slow.

My collection:
38 BluRay
65 HDDVD

HDDVD's purchased this month: Mummy Returns, Hulk, American Werewolf In London, Hollywoodland, Blazing Saddles.

Thanks for the heads up, would give me something to watch while my HD1 is in the shop. Is it worth a blind buy? Have you seen it? I am reading it is a bit long and slow.

Not only have I seen it - But as someone who started his
career at the time of this story - I knew the real people
who are portrayed in this TRUE STORY ;)

My collection:
38 BluRay
65 HDDVD

HDDVD's purchased this month: Mummy Returns, Hulk, American Werewolf In London, Hollywoodland, Blazing Saddles.

All good movies - I have them on SD DVD - just not going to
do it a 2nd time ;)

Not only have I seen it - But as someone who started his
career at the time of this story - I knew the real people
who are portrayed in this TRUE STORY ;)

Are you saying you worked for the agency?

Mark

Are you saying you worked for the agency?

Mark

I worked for that one out of college and work for their
sister agency now.

I worked for that one out of college

Me too! It was a great place to work...alas WDC didn't feel like home.

Mark

My dealer is trying to call Pioneer as well. but can't get a hold of anyone. His rep, gave him the number for tech support, but that guy didn't know anything, and forwarded me to the customer service recording.

I did complete the firmware upgrade, and the unit went into standby.

Free.. Glad to hear you are on your way to getting a resolution. Personally in the business I still do not understand why you had to do all the grunt work. Sometimes at different locations the people are just taking orders or mailing brochures but I cant believe the dealer didnt get proactive in doing more. In any event it sounds like you contacted a person who will hopefully get you the resolution you deserve. I know it can be frustrating at times. I recently took a demo lcd projector in for service after hooking it up and there were large rings shaped like a V and the Manufacturers service department fired it up and I guess since it powered up they thought it was ok and shipped it back saying it was one of the color modes. I had already spent 30 of my own hours trying to resolve the issue and when I heard the response from the service company I kind of freaked out. Look forward to hearing how it all goes. Intermittent problems are a difficult to resolve. Try and get a detail of what the issue was and what they did if you can.

Completely agree - I haven't tried the Java stuff yet, but the PQ is outstanding all the way through.

The Java stuff is pretty cool, not something I would use all the time on movies but something different...I watched Rocky Balboa last night finally. Very good PQ also, not Chicken Little PQ but very good though!

I have not bought a HD DVD since Miami Vice in December.

But THE GOOD SHEPHERD is being released next Tuesday
ONLY in HD DVD format. So I ordered it.

I never got around to seeing this movie in the theaters so I was excited to see it coming out, but then I saw it was a Universal film and realized that it will not be on Blu-ray, at least for now. That will probably change soon after Universal bails on HD-DVD, or at least starts making both formats.

I never got around to seeing this movie in the theaters so I was excited to see it coming out, but then I saw it was a Universal film and realized that it will not be on Blu-ray, at least for now. That will probably change soon after Universal bails on HD-DVD, or at least starts making both formats.

At CES - Universal announced a double side DVD
with HD on one side and Blu-Ray on the other
side.

I don't remember when they expected to start
delivering it.

I never got around to seeing this movie in the theaters so I was excited to see it coming out, but then I saw it was a Universal film and realized that it will not be on Blu-ray, at least for now. That will probably change soon after Universal bails on HD-DVD, or at least starts making both formats.

You can always rent a SD DVD version and let
your Pioneer scale it up ;)

OK, the download went fine, everything by the book. The first disc I put in, I watched for about 10 minutes with no problems, and then things started to fall apart again. Seems that it needs to get warmed up before the drop outs start. Then, every disc I put in after that, had freeze ups and drop outs.

I called my dealer, and he said he would be happy to swap out my unit, but he doesn't have any to swap with, and probably won't until at least May.

I called the customer service number above, as well as the Long Beach number, and the voice prompts for repair, still just take you to a listing of local dealers. I decided to do an end run around the system, and pressed the voice prompt for installation assistance. I got a human, and pleaded my case to him, about how it was impossible to get to repair. He was very helpful, and even though it was the wrong department, he understood that this was not an ordinary repair case, that a local service center could handle. He issued me a case number and transferred me to a rep, who set up the return. If all goes well, I should have a call tag in the next 3-5 days, and then it is a 7-10 day turnaround for the repair.

I will keep you all informed about the process, and thanks everyone for your help and concern. :)

Glad you finally got through to someone who can help. Hopefully the repair process will go well. Makes sense with the heat issue as well.

My collection:
38 BluRay
65 HDDVD

HDDVD's purchased this month: Mummy Returns, Hulk, American Werewolf In London, Hollywoodland, Blazing Saddles.

Even though the SD picture is excellent, I'm thinking of getting an HD-DVD player just for the 2 Mummy movies.

At CES - Universal announced a double side DVD
with HD on one side and Blu-Ray on the other
side.

I don't remember when they expected to start
delivering it.

I believe you are mistaken. Warner Brothers developed the Total HD disc...Blu-ray on one side, and HD DVD on the opposite side. Not too fond of the idea personally, as the Blu-ray side reportedly will be limited to 25 gb...

I believe you are mistaken. Warner Brothers developed the Total HD disc...Blu-ray on one side, and HD DVD on the opposite side. Not too fond of the idea personally, as the Blu-ray side reportedly will be limited to 25 gb...

You are most likely 100% correct.

I was having TOO MUCH FUN at CES to pay that
much attention.

Wish "Children of Men" was released on Blue Ray...great flick. Oh well, have to wait until format war is over.

Wish "Children of Men" was released on Blue Ray...great flick. Oh well, have to wait until format war is over.

Playing it tonight (on HD DVD, didn't see at the poor res, poor sound megaplex :)

You can always rent a SD DVD version and let
your Pioneer scale it up ;)

I was thinking about that or even buying it on SD DVD, but then I said to myself, "I can't buy a SD DVD anymore!"...LOL!

I believe you are mistaken. Warner Brothers developed the Total HD disc...Blu-ray on one side, and HD DVD on the opposite side. Not too fond of the idea personally, as the Blu-ray side reportedly will be limited to 25 gb...

I was not fond of that idea either...doesn't make sense to me. I wish Warner and Paramount would just fully commit toBlu-ray at this point. It seems like the BD movies that I have from either Warner or Paramount are not nearly as good as any Disney or Fox BD movies that I own, as far as PQ. I just watched Happy Feet tonight, which is a Warner movie, and was disappointed in the PQ and just overall effort that Warner put into the BD transfer. The PQ was just OK and I was expecting much better. It just seems like they are juggling to many things with the release of the movies on SD DVD, HD-DVD and Blu-ray.

Hi Guys
This is my first post on this forum, have been with Audiogon for a while. You can see my sysytem under the same user name under Community, Member Systems.
I have a new Pioneer Elite BDP-HD-1 on loan in my system from my dealer.
The unit freezes the picture and the sound for up for 1 to 2 seconds on me with SD-DVD.
We have watched over a dozen movies in SD-DVD and some of them freeze 3-4 times.
Last night we watched Lord of the rings and them damn thing froze 6 times in less that than 20 minutes of movie time. That's it the unit is going back, too frustrating.
It does not do this with Blue-ray disc.
I am returning the unit to my dealer which he will replace with a newer Elite or even the Sony Blue ray player.
Any thought's?
Thanks for reading.

Hi Guys
This is my first post on this forum, have been with Audiogon for a while. You can see my sysytem under the same user name under Community, Member Systems.
I have a new Pioneer Elite BDP-HD-1 on loan in my system from my dealer.
The unit freezes the picture and the sound for up for 1 to 2 seconds on me with SD-DVD.
We have watched over a dozen movies in SD-DVD and some of them freeze 3-4 times.
Last night we watched Lord of the rings and them damn thing froze 6 times in less that than 20 minutes of movie time. That's it the unit is going back, too frustrating.
It does not do this with Blue-ray disc.
I am returning the unit to my dealer which he will replace with a newer Elite or even the Sony Blue ray player.
Any thought's?
Thanks for reading.

What is also freezing on Blu-Ray Disk? What type of connection was used? HDMI? If it was HDMI I could be a bad cable. IF you read this thread you will see almost no freezing issues with the Pioneer. Most of the owners are reporting flawless behavior from their unit.

Tolstoi, thanks for getting back to me.
The connection from the BDP-HD1 to my Sony Ruby is a HDMI cable. This is a direct connection no prepro in the way.
If the HDMI cable was flawed would it not freeze on the Blue ray discs as well?
I can hardly wait until my dealer has the new unit.

I just finished updating my BDP-HD1 to the 2.00 firmware posted on the Pioneer site. The update completed successfully, but I did have a few slight differences to the doc.

I used a DVD-RW vs R disk....stated it was supported, and it does work.

When I inserted the disk, the display changed to DISC-DWLD as expected for about 30-45 seconds and then the display went blank. The unit rebooted itself (& my heart stopped for a few secs!).

When the unit powered back on, it again displayed DISC-DWLD but that stayed on for about 1 minute and the disc door opened.

The display changed to DOWNLOAD-1 for about 9 minutes, then changed to DOWNLOAD-2 for a few seconds before displaying DL OK and going into standby.

The unit now displays v2.00 as the firmware and is working great.

Mark

Feels good to be getting back early (Spring Break) and I can't wait to watch a movie on my Pioneer!!!

Tolstoi, thanks for getting back to me.
The connection from the BDP-HD1 to my Sony Ruby is a HDMI cable. This is a direct connection no prepro in the way.
If the HDMI cable was flawed would it not freeze on the Blue ray discs as well?
I can hardly wait until my dealer has the new unit.

If it is a bad cable it will also freeze when watching Blu-Ray. I believe it is a bad unit.

Wish "Children of Men" was released on Blue Ray...great flick. Oh well, have to wait until format war is over.
I wish it was too, these DVD/HD DVD flipper discs just do NOT work.

watched Payback - Straight Up (BluRay) (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000MTFFV8).
No player problems. Works fine.

One strange player anomoly -- the red HD light on the front of the player didn't light. It was on when I loaded the BluRay disk. The output format is 'source direct (1080p/24)', and the Pioneer FHD1 display says it's receiving 1080p. Just the little red HD light was out. I'm watching it again now with the director's commentary -- and this time the red HD light is lit.

I think this is a must see for anyone who's seen Payback more than 3 times -- because it's actually a different movie.

PQ is a bit grainy. In one of the special features they talk a lot about how they fiddled with the colours in the original release and this release. For those of you with ISF calibrations -- this is a great example of what you see is the director's intent, and not a window unto the world.

About 10 minutes in you realize that this film is edgy.
You see things you remember, and there's the occasional additional scene you'd expect in a director's cut. No big deal.
And then about an hour in, there's radical change. Same story, different movie.
"This little piggy went to market" - gone.
Outfit's head's son - gone.
Kris Kristofferson - gone.

I should have my Elite BDP-HD1 a week from today. The wait is killing me!

Sorry Rob, it will be worth the wait though. We are watching Chicken Little with my Wife's Nieces and Nephews tonite. Should be fun! :)

Sorry Rob, it will be worth the wait though. We are watching Chicken Little with my Wife's Nieces and Nephews tonite. Should be fun! :)

Chicken Little is probably the best BD movie that is out right now, as far as PQ! It is simply amazing! Make sure you try the the Q&A feature that uses the new enhanced Java that the Pioneer was just updated to with the new FW update.

We ended up moving it to tonite's agenda! can't wait. Thanks... :)

watched Broken Arrow (BluRay) (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000K7VHGO)

No player problems.

The menu's are unusually quick for this BluRay. Nice.

PQ is good. No grain. Might be a little soft in places, but I prefer that over the grain.

For those of you with D-BOX motion control, it comes with D-BOX on the disk. Should you be affraid during the ejection seat scene? :D

watched Broken Arrow (BluRay) (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000K7VHGO)

No player problems.

The menu's are unusually quick for this BluRay. Nice.

PQ is good. No grain. Might be a little soft in places, but I prefer that over the grain.

For those of you with D-BOX motion control, it comes with D-BOX on the disk. Should you be affraid during the ejection seat scene? :D

I wonder if it is a new mix for the Bluray disc or they just used the codes from the SD DVD mix.

Mark

I watched happy feet with the kids Saturday. What the achieved in terms on representation of a Penguin colony is just amazing. The level of realism achieve is unbelievable. :eek:

For happy feet I picked the HD DVD version since the audio selection is better (TrueDH while no lossless on the Blu-Ray version) what a mistake, I had 2 glitch during playback (blue screen for a fraction of a second). Bloody XA2. :mad:

Sad that Warner didn't provide an LPCM track on the Blu-Ray version, I am sure the BDP-HD1 would play that movie without any glitch.

PS: Yesterday we watched Stranger Than Fiction. An other flawless playback by the HDP-HD1 :D

I watched happy feet with the kids Saturday. What the achieved in terms on representation of a Penguin colony is just amazing. The level of realism achieve is unbelievable. :eek:

For happy feet I picked the HD DVD version since the audio selection is better (TrueDH while no lossless on the Blu-Ray version) what a mistake, I had 2 glitch during playback (blue screen for a fraction of a second). Bloody XA2. :mad:

Sad that Warner didn't provide an LPCM track on the Blu-Ray version, I am sure the BDP-HD1 would play that movie without any glitch.

PS: Yesterday we watched Stranger Than Fiction. An other flawless playback by the HDP-HD1 :D

I have the Pioneer and am considering adding the XA2 for the content that I am missing as well as the audio features that may not be offered on the BD version. My question to you is - How often do you have playback issues with the XA2 and would you make the purchase again?

I did a search of your posts to the BD and HDDVD forum and since there were 277 hits, I figured a direct question would be the easiest (for me at least) route. :D

I have the Pioneer and am considering adding the XA2 for the content that I am missing as well as the audio features that may not be offered on the BD version. My question to you is - How often do you have playback issues with the XA2 and would you make the purchase again?

I did a search of your posts to the BD and HDDVD forum and since there were 277 hits, I figured a direct question would be the easiest (for me at least) route. :D

Since they released the 1.3 firmware it is a bit more stable. There are issues with some of the combos. I had issue with Happy Feet and hollywoodland doesn’t play at all. This is sad since the player output an amazing image and is a faster than the Pioneer BR. I get mainly irritated with the XA2 because I keep comparing to my BDP-HD1 which has working flawlessly since day one. Meanwhile, there is no way out if you want HD DVD only material, since the A2 is also having issues.

Tolstoi:

I played Hollywoodland HD-DVD(combo) on my Toshiba XA1 and it worked.
I know something I watched on HD-DVD recently had skip/pause/go; I think it was The Good Shepherd.

Hollywoodland worked on my XA1 just not my neighbors XA2... :) chicken Little looked top tier on the Pioneer lastnite! :eek: You could see every detail in the red brick roght in the beginning... ;)

I think it was The Good Shepherd.

OK - there Mr. Basement Bob :p .

You got Casino Royale ahead of all of us.

Now you have GOOD SHEPHERD ahead of all of us.

You need to COUGH up the secret to getting them early.

I thought Canada was even behind the U.S. Release dates?

drhankz:

I thought Canada was even behind the U.S. Release dates?
Sometimes it is.
Sometimes there's movies that have been shown in theaters here, that are available as DVD in the USA, and announced in Canada and we wait for months -- and eventually give up and order them from amazon.com instead of amazon.ca.
Usually they're about the same date.

And as for 'all of us', the firthest the other way I know of, is a fellow who posts at AVS who occasionally gets DVDs of movies that are yet to be shown in first time release in movie theatres the month later. Admittidly sometimes they don't have the musical sound track because it hasn't been written yet. I think he's got a contact in the MPAA (http://www.mpaa.org/) or something.

I don't have Children Of Men yet, and others have posted that they've seen that.

drhankz:


Sometimes it is.
Sometimes there's movies that have been shown in theaters here, that are available as DVD in the USA, and announced in Canada and we wait for months -- and eventually give up and order them from amazon.com instead of amazon.ca.
Usually they're about the same date.

I was just pulling your chain ;) because you have gotten some
HOT FLICKS early. My Good Shepherd will be here tomorrow
from Amazon. It is the 1st HD DVD I ordered since December.

watched http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000NIVJEU.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_V44655016_.jpg

Good PQ. No grain.
Good surround/subwoofer effects (I'm using optical)
Slow story. Very nice scenery.


I turned the player off at about 30 minutes into the film yesterday, and restarted it today, and used the remote's "Play Mode" to restart @ 30 minutes -- and now the remote's "Display" button doesn't tell me the hh:mm:ss, but the LCD on the front of the player still does.

BasementBob,

Any problems playing Eragon at 24fps?

I did not have any problems...

Paul Arnette:

Eragon worked great on my FHD1. No pauses, no skips, no freezes, no audio problems -- all's well.
I know it was 1080p. I check that.
I don't recall checking if it was 24fps -- but I never change the BDP-HD1 from (source direct).

I usually like Rachael Weiss in movies, but in this one I found her voice to be dull and lifeless, and her skin a bit grey.

Same here...

Finally ordered the HD1 form Jeff at the Pioneer Store today. Thanks to everyone for pointing me to him. He was very nice and easy to work with. Cancelled the order from tweeter at the end of last week after 4 months of false promises. It will be here in 2 days. Cant wait.

Let that be a hard lesson, avoid Tweeter...

Let that be a hard lesson, avoid Tweeter...

You've said this a time or two before! ;)

Sorry for repeating. I was once a victim of them a few years back. I vowed never to use them for anything and so far so good... :)

Oh, we are getting closer to your unit coming, aren't we Rob?

Sorry for repeating. I was once a victim of them a few years back. I vowed never to use them for anything and so far so good... :)

No reason to apologize! Good for others to know!

Yes, my new Elite HD1 and JVC RS1 should be here shortly (this weekend for the Elite, next week for the RS1).

http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

Hollywoodland worked on my XA1 just not my neighbors XA2... :) chicken Little looked top tier on the Pioneer lastnite! :eek: You could see every detail in the red brick roght in the beginning... ;)

I agree withe you. The detail and PQ of that movie is stunning!

Wow Rob, Pioneer this week and JVC the next! :eek: You are going to be busy... :)

No reason to apologize! Good for others to know!

Yes, my new Elite HD1 and JVC RS1 should be here shortly (this weekend for the Elite, next week for the RS1).

http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif


I hope you have a pile of Blu-Ray ready for action :eek:

Wow Rob, Pioneer this week and JVC the next! :eek: You are going to be busy... :)

Yep, and even busier about a week after that, when I get my Anthem D2! :eek:


I hope you have a pile of Blu-Ray ready for action :eek:

Yep! I have intentionally been putting off watching a lot of Blu-ray and HD-DVD's so I would have a good pile of them to watch when I get the new toys! :cool:

Yep, and even busier about a week after that, when I get my Anthem D2! :eek:




Yep! I have intentionally been putting off watching a lot of Blu-ray and HD-DVD's so I would have a good pile of them to watch when I get the new toys! :cool:

Oh Boy - Pretty soon we will be seeing Rob http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

Good luck with all the new TOYS!

Oh Boy - Pretty soon we will be seeing Rob http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

Good luck with all the new TOYS!

Thanks Doc! :D

Thanks Doc! :D

I should be doing that by tomorrow night.

I bought a new Pioneer Toy from our Friend Jeff Hagg
at the CA Pioneer Store for my mid-size theater.

I should be doing that by tomorrow night.

I bought a new Pioneer Toy from our Friend Jeff Hagg
at the CA Pioneer Store for my mid-size theater.

It's a disease we have, isn't it?! ;)

It's a disease we have, isn't it?! ;)

I'm hoping this will stay the disease until CEDIA
when Sony announces their new PJ to TEMPT ME.
Enough is enough for awhile.

This means I will have totally rebuilt two theaters
in the last 11 months.

I've got an HD1 on order and have been following this thread for quite some time. However, I have a question concerning the 5.1 analog outputs for which I can't find the answer...

I see on page 45 in the .PDF manual downloaded from Pioneer that you can set the surrounds and center channel to "Yes" or "No" and the fronts to "Large" or "Small" for bass management, but what exactly is this doing? Is it simply filtering out (and throwing away) everything below 80Hz (or what frequency?) from the speaker channels or is it actually diverting the lower frequencies to the LFE channel for output via the subwoofer? Is the bass from the center and surrounds being diverted to the LFE channel? To the fronts? Simply thrown away? Is there any bass management at all for the center and surrounds?

I ask because I haven't been able to find a cost-effective (<$500) bass management device to use with my (gracefully) aging Yamaha DSP-A1 and want to make sure I'm not going to be missing out by using the HD1's (seemingly lacking, from the menu options) built-in bass management.

If the HD1 does NOT do proper bass management, can anyone recommend something other than the Outlaw ICBM-1 or M&K BMC Mini to sit between the HD1 and my amp? Neither of these seem to be actually available anywhere.

I've got an HD1 on order and have been following this thread for quite some time. However, I have a question concerning the 5.1 analog outputs for which I can't find the answer...

I see on page 45 in the .PDF manual downloaded from Pioneer that you can set the surrounds and center channel to "Yes" or "No" and the fronts to "Large" or "Small" for bass management, but what exactly is this doing? Is it simply filtering out (and throwing away) everything below 80Hz (or what frequency?) from the speaker channels or is it actually diverting the lower frequencies to the LFE channel for output via the subwoofer? Is the bass from the center and surrounds being diverted to the LFE channel? To the fronts? Simply thrown away? Is there any bass management at all for the center and surrounds?

I ask because I haven't been able to find a cost-effective (<$500) bass management device to use with my (gracefully) aging Yamaha DSP-A1 and want to make sure I'm not going to be missing out by using the HD1's (seemingly lacking, from the menu options) built-in bass management.

If the HD1 does NOT do proper bass management, can anyone recommend something other than the Outlaw ICBM-1 or M&K BMC Mini to sit between the HD1 and my amp? Neither of these seem to be actually available anywhere.

Since I'm not a FAN of using Analog outputs - my two cent opinion
is not to waste any money on any devices to enable you to keep
using your (gracefully) aging Yamaha DSP-A1.

Since buying the BDP-HD1 is not a minor cash outlay - I recommend
supporting this player in a way it was intended ;)

Blu-Ray Movies with Uncompressed PCM tracks over HDMI are just
so awesome - I recommend spending your money to upgrade your
receiver. I just bought a new Pioneer VSX-82TSX, for under $1,000.
There are other alternatives - but running HDMI is really the
correct way to get the full benefits from your BDP-HD1.

I actually prefer using COAX over analog outs... :eek:

I actually prefer using COAX over analog outs... :eek:

AMEN to that Joe - That was the POINT I was hoping to make. :D

Since I'm not a FAN of using Analog outputs - my two cent opinion
is not to waste any money on any devices to enable you to keep
using your (gracefully) aging Yamaha DSP-A1.

Since buying the BDP-HD1 is not a minor cash outlay - I recommend
supporting this player in a way it was intended ;)

Blu-Ray Movies with Uncompressed PCM tracks over HDMI are just
so awesome - I recommend spending your money to upgrade your
receiver. I just bought a new Pioneer VSX-82TSX, for under $1,000.
There are other alternatives - but running HDMI is really the
correct way to get the full benefits from your BDP-HD1.

You're not trying to talk him into a D2 ???? That has got to be a first :) :)

You're not trying to talk him into a D2 ???? That has got to be a first :) :)

Yamaha to a D2 is a big step.

I was just suggesting a baby step to any HDMI receiver.

Actually, with projected firmware updates, doing the D/A conversion in the player is likely to produce the very best sound - jitter is reportedly MUCH worse on HDMI than on S/PDIF !! Chris Martens, (The Perfect Vision), any many other cogniscenti think that HDMI may ultimately prove to be unsuitable for high-end audio, no matter what version you use.

To use the multichannel analog outputs properly, look into getting a multi-channel analog preamp like the Sony TA-P9000ES, the McCormack MAP-1, (see http://www.mccormackaudio.com/map1.html), or the new NuForce AVP-16, (see http://www.nuforce.com/products-ht.htm), and a good quality multi-channel power amplifier for the best sound.

While I am considering ditching the DSP-A1 and moving to seperates, I'm not going to drop a ton of money on a new pre/pro until HDMI 1.3 arrives and the kinks are worked out.

(And yes, before you tell me that 1.3 really doesn't offer much benefit to current devices, and that the HD1 doesn't even have 1.3 out, just be aware that I try to future-proof my purchases as much as possible. I would hope to get the same 10 years of use out of my next system as I have gotten from the DSP-A1. So far, the simple addition of an Octava 5:1 HDMI switch and a Gefen 1:2 HDMI distribution amp has enabled me to keep fairly current.)

Meanwhile, for the next 6-12 months, I'm going to be stuck using analog outputs from the HD1. Spending a couple of hundred bucks on an outboard bass management device as an interim solution doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

This assumes, however, that the HD1 doesn't actually do proper bass management. Can anyone comment on exactly what the HD1 is doing with the lower frequencies on the analog outputs? If it routes the bass information to the LFE channel (like it should) when small speakers are selected in the setup menu, this is a moot issue and I can give up my search. If it simply discards the bass information when small speakers are selected, I'm going to need some additional hardware to correct that deficiency.

RoboRay,

I currently have my BDP-HD1 hooked up to my Denon 4802 receiver via the 5.1 analog outputs and it sounds great. When I set it up I did have to set my L&R speakers to small for it to pass all of the low frequencies (from all channels) to the subwoofer. When set to large, it not only treated L&R as large but also treated all the rest of the speakers as large. About the only issue I had was that the subwoofer output was significantly muted relative to the other channels. I had to boost it about 14db to get it to match the other speakers. The LPCM soundtracks sound outstanding. For DD and DTS soundtracks I still use the optical input to my receiver but the Pioneer decodes equally well.

In my opinion, you don't need to buy new hardware. Analog works just fine.

Bob

Thanks for the info, Bob.

I agree. I would wait and see what you think before deciding to upgrade...

It looks like Pioneer has a second firmware upgrade available, I didn't see anyone talking about it yet. It posted April 3rd.

It looks like Pioneer has a second firmware upgrade available, I didn't see anyone talking about it yet. It posted April 3rd.

WOW - Way good CATCH.

I'm downloading now.

BUT THERE IS A PROBLEM

Their website is still downloading the OLD ZIP file not the new one!

They are working on POSTING the updated file.

It looks like Pioneer has a second firmware upgrade available, I didn't see anyone talking about it yet. It posted April 3rd.

That is very interesting! Thanks for catching that.

Anyone have any info on what this one does? Chris Walker, if you are reading, please chime in! :)

Chris Walker, if you are reading, please chime in!

Yes, inquiring minds want to know. :D

Even if the Website were downloading a new .zip file, I would be hesitant to install anything until I get some more information.

According to the change history:

April 3, 2007
Ver2.10

-Enhances playback compatibility with certain BD-ROM discs.
-Performance improvement


MARCH 14,2007
Ver2.00

-Enhances playback compatibility with certain BD-ROM discs.
-Improves certain BD-ROM discs operability by speeding up menu operations.
-Improves Home Media Gallery playback functionality.
-Performance improvement

I swear these companies hire writers who specialize in the generic... :)

BTW, would you mind posting the URL you are using to see this?

Thanks.

Nevermind, I found it:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_3424/422497225CHANGE_HISTORY_2.txt

So it is at Pioneer.com?

Just checked. It still says 2.0...

Just checked. It still says 2.0...

I got a response from Pioneer at 10:48 AM this morning
agreeing they needed to fix the problem.

I guess the problem is in Japan and they are sleeping ;)

Received the player today, updated to 2.0, 2.1 is still down, played casino royale today, awesome. the menus and setup features are the same GUI as the Sony. The playback software is obviously different though. It is better to the test disk and also in CR it did not judder in 24f like it did with the Sony.
I am very happy and now feel I have the best player on the market.

Version 2.1 is already uploaded on the Pioneer website but the link is not correct.

You need to copy the link from the old firmware 2.0 and change the filename to BDP_HD1_Ver210.zip


/pio/staticfiles/BDP_HD1_Ver200.zip -) /pio/staticfiles/BDP_HD1_Ver210.zip

You will then be able to download the new firmware 2.10

You can also wait that the webmaster fix this link.

I just used the firmware link from the BDP-HD1 Support Page on the Pioneer website, downloaded the file, burned it with my Mac using Toast Titanium, and successfully updated my BDP-HD1 to 2.10. Looks like they must have just updated. Haven't had a chance to try any Blu-Ray discs yet. Will post if I have any problems.

Awesome, it's ready! :)

Does anyone have any word on what this new version fixes/adds?

Jim

Does anyone have any word on what this new version fixes/adds?

Jim

We're all waiting for Chris Walker to jump in and tell us!

I just used the firmware link from the BDP-HD1 Support Page on the Pioneer website, downloaded the file, burned it with my Mac using Toast Titanium, and successfully updated my BDP-HD1 to 2.10. Looks like they must have just updated. Haven't had a chance to try any Blu-Ray discs yet. Will post if I have any problems.

I downloaded it and burned it using Disk Utility. I didn't have to use Stuffit Expander this time, the file expanded automatically and went right to the desktop as an ISO file. I'm not really sure if Stuffit works automatically like that or if Apple fixed this issue in OS X (v 10.4.9).

Anyway, the firmware update took 6 minutes, just like the first time I did it.

Awesome, I'm gettin' good at it now!

Mark

Anyone got a link to this "Pioneer Store" I keep hearing about?

thanks! Mike

No reason to apologize! Good for others to know!

Yes, my new Elite HD1 and JVC RS1 should be here shortly (this weekend for the Elite, next week for the RS1).

http://www.rx8web.com/smilies/bouncy.gif

Rob,

You are in a "perfect storm" waiting on the Anthem, Pio, projector, plasma....

Version 2.1 is already uploaded on the Pioneer website but the link is not correct.

You need to copy the link from the old firmware 2.0 and change the filename to BDP_HD1_Ver210.zip


/pio/staticfiles/BDP_HD1_Ver200.zip -) /pio/staticfiles/BDP_HD1_Ver210.zip

You will then be able to download the new firmware 2.10

You can also wait that the webmaster fix this link.

Link appears to be corrected
From BDP owner's page (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_3424/421797249BDP_HD1_Ver210.zip)

We're all waiting for Chris Walker to jump in and tell us!


Hi Everyone,

Sorry for not getting in on this earlier... Been really busy preparing for our line show...

The main fix in the version was a memory lean issue with Chicken Little... If you played the space invaders game for awhile, then tried some other features, the player could have a problem.....

There were also some various fixes for problems, most people would never see....

You should also be able to play the film-maker Q&A from Chicken Little now... This is a feature that only the Playstation 3 is supposed to play.....

Our software guys are also working on speeding up the Java disc load times... I just received new beta firmware tonight to try out...

Chris

Our software guys are also working on speeding up the Java disc load times... I just received new beta firmware tonight to try out...

Chris


Anything to do with Dragon's lair? This title (game) will be released on Monday.
Can we purchase it? Or are there some incompatibilities with the HD1?

thanks in advance

Patrick

Speeding up load times is good. :)

Anyone got a link to this "Pioneer Store" I keep hearing about?

thanks! Mike

I'm not sure which Store you are referring to - BUT THIS
is the Factory Pioneer Store (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/top/article/0,,2076_334611653,00.html) I buy all my Pioneer from
them and I am 2500 miles away.

I call Jeff Hagg 714-540-8000 - He is the General Manager.

Tell him your an active AVS Forum Member and he will
take Super care of you.

Chris: Are the firmware updates cumulative ? In other words, if I skip this one will I pick it up later if I install a subsequent update?

Thanks

Chris: Are the firmware updates cumulative ? In other words, if I skip this one will I pick it up later if I install a subsequent update?

Thanks

ALL Updates include previous updates.

Hi Everyone,

Sorry for not getting in on this earlier... Been really busy preparing for our line show...

The main fix in the version was a memory lean issue with Chicken Little... If you played the space invaders game for awhile, then tried some other features, the player could have a problem.....

There were also some various fixes for problems, most people would never see....

You should also be able to play the film-maker Q&A from Chicken Little now... This is a feature that only the Playstation 3 is supposed to play.....

Our software guys are also working on speeding up the Java disc load times... I just received new beta firmware tonight to try out...

Chris

Thanks Chris for the info.

Wow that was pretty quick, another FW update already. I just wish the updates were available to download right to the player, hopefully that will happen soon.

I just wish the updates were available to download right to the player, hopefully that will happen soon.

Why not address that question DIRECTLY to Chris :D

He is the man that can make it HAPPEN!

Hi Everyone,

Sorry for not getting in on this earlier... Been really busy preparing for our line show...

The main fix in the version was a memory lean issue with Chicken Little... If you played the space invaders game for awhile, then tried some other features, the player could have a problem.....

There were also some various fixes for problems, most people would never see....

You should also be able to play the film-maker Q&A from Chicken Little now... This is a feature that only the Playstation 3 is supposed to play.....

Our software guys are also working on speeding up the Java disc load times... I just received new beta firmware tonight to try out...

Chris

Chris, we always appreciate you chiming in when you can. We are reasonable people (ok, I am kidding about that part ;) ) and we know you are busy and are not always able to respond immediately, but you always seem to get to us when you can.

This info is appreciated.

One other thing.....just to BUG you some more......any updates on TrueHD / DTS-HD???

I know you must get tired of that question, but it is an important issue. :)

I don't mind burning the discs. It is so easy. I had the procedure done in less than 2 minutes! :eek: I think it is much easier than having to disconnect my unit...

Chris, we always appreciate you chiming in when you can. We are reasonable people (ok, I am kidding about that part ;) ) and we know you are busy and are not always able to respond immediately, but you always seem to get to us when you can.

This info is appreciated.

One other thing.....just to BUG you some more......any updates on TrueHD / DTS-HD???

I know you must get tired of that question, but it is an important issue. :)
Back at the CES didnt Dr Hankz mention something about the True HD was in beta testing at the Dolby Labs.
Just updated to the 2.1 myself. Like previously mentioned it only takes a couple of minutes.

I don't mind burning the discs. It is so easy. I had the procedure done in less than 2 minutes! :eek: I think it is much easier than having to disconnect my unit...

DISCONNECT :( Your UNIT?

You mean you don't have all your theater equipment in a rack
and a Live Broadband connection brought into each piece of equipment.

I ran one Ethernet cable to my double rack of equipment
and then I have an 8 Port Ethernet switching in the rack
to distribute ethernet to all the High-Tech AV Gear. Joe
this is the 21st Century ;)

Back at the CES didnt Dr Hankz mention something about the True HD was in beta testing at the Dolby Labs.
Just updated to the 2.1 myself. Like previously mentioned it only takes a couple of minutes.

That is what was mentioned from the CES FLOOR :D

So lets all blame Dolby LABS ;)

i don't know why, but i am having a problem getting the file to download...had the same problem with the last..any ideas?

i don't know why, but i am having a problem getting the file to download...had the same problem with the last..any ideas?

NO IDEA - it downloaded fast for me this morning.

I used the link in this post

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10226525&&#post10226525

i don't know why, but i am having a problem getting the file to download...had the same problem with the last..any ideas?

IF YOU ARE STILL HAVING TROUBLE --

Try Downloading From ME (http://www.atego.ods.org/Login)

Just enter your e-mail address in the BOX that
is showing for Anonymous Login.

The file on my FTP Server is ALREADY unzipped and ready to BURN.

No I do not have an internet connection in my theater rack. I guess I could still do it but I really never needed to. And my crystalio II has me very spoiled because I just use a USB flashdrive to do firmware upgrades. :)

Why not address that question DIRECTLY to Chris :D

He is the man that can make it HAPPEN!

That is a good point, I should address it to him...

I don't mind burning the discs. It is so easy. I had the procedure done in less than 2 minutes! :eek: I think it is much easier than having to disconnect my unit...

I don't either, but unfortunately I don't have a DVD burner, just a CD burner...never had a need for one and I am still probably a few months away in purchasing a new PC. I just think in the long run it would be a lot easier just to download the update right to the player via an ethernet connection for me.

No I do not have an internet connection in my theater rack. I guess I could still do it but I really never needed to. And my crystalio II has me very spoiled because I just use a USB flashdrive to do firmware upgrades. :)

I have a USB port on my Philips plasma in my theater, probably the best and easier way to do FW updates. I wish the Pioneer had that as well.

I purchased a HP external DVD burner for relatively cheap and I love it. It's the 940 model and using it is a breeze. I have made pre movie slides and trailors plus other stuff. ;)

I purchased a HP external DVD burner for relatively cheap and I love it. It's the 940 model and using it is a breeze. I have made pre movie slides and trailors plus other stuff. ;)

Same here - I purchased in Internal HP DVD burning for $50
and I think the External was $69 or there about.

It was a GOOD Investment not only for FW updates
but for COPYING Movies that I rent [GRIN]! I'm
not suppose to say that in public ;)

I don't either, but unfortunately I don't have a DVD burner, just a CD burner...never had a need for one and I am still probably a few months away in purchasing a new PC. I just think in the long run it would be a lot easier just to download the update right to the player via an ethernet connection for me.

FYI - I updated my Toshiba HD DVD Yesterday via the
Internet because the FW was not available to burn
onto a Disc. It takes just about an hour. It makes me
nervous as heck. Burning a disc is so much faster.

Which firmware version did you download? I am having a tough time with some of their new titles. My Wife is now more than ever wanting me to only use the Pioneer Blue unit! :)

Just called Magnolia HT. Gave my name, the girl said "I was just getting ready to call you....you were next on my list. Your Pioneer Elite is here ready for pick up"!

:D

Just called Magnolia HT. Gave my name, the girl said "I was just getting ready to call you....you were next on my list. Your Pioneer Elite is here ready for pick up"!

:D

Woohoo. What you going to play it on (or wait until Mon?)

Just called Magnolia HT. Gave my name, the girl said "I was just getting ready to call you....you were next on my list. Your Pioneer Elite is here ready for pick up"!

:D

You better run out to get it before they give it to someone else.

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Woohoo. What you going to play it on (or wait until Mon?)

I will hook it up to my current PJ (Dwin) tonight to make sure everything is working properly before I mount the RS1 on Monday.

You better run out to get it before they give it to someone else.

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They do that, and HEADS will ROLL! :eek:

They do that, and HEADS will ROLL! :eek:

Well it sounds like you will get there before the EASTER Bunny
snatches it away :D

I just got a fresh shipment of mint BDP-HD1's in this morning. If anyone else is still waiting around for one or thinking about taking the plunge, now would be the time, I anticipate some lag between this shipment and the next.

Our operators are standing by ;)

Jeff Hagg
714-540-8000
The Pioneer Store

Awesome Rob! You are going to have a great week! :)

I just got a fresh shipment of mint BDP-HD1's in this morning. If anyone else is still waiting around for one or thinking about taking the plunge, now would be the time, I anticipate some lag between this shipment and the next.

Our operators are standing by ;)

Jeff Hagg
714-540-8000
The Pioneer Store

I can VOUCH for GREAT Service from Jeff.

I ordered a New Pioneer Product from him on Monday
and it arrived Wednesday. [I'm 2500 miles away]

I had it up and running 3 hours later.

Something about WORK getting in my way.

Is that your new receiver? How is it working out for you? Does it work well with the Blu ray unit? PCM audio over HDMI? :)

Is that your new receiver? How is it working out for you? Does it work well with the Blu ray unit? PCM audio over HDMI? :)

Is that question directed to me :p

Yes - I bought a new Pioneer for my Mid-size Theater.

I have a D2 in my Big Theater and a Sony in my Little Theater.

IT WORKS AWESOME - too bad my speakers in my mid-size
theater are not as good as they could be - but that is not the
receiver's fault.

Everything worked flawlessly first shot. I have 4 HDMI High-Def
sources. I now have two blu-ray players in two of my theaters.

Awesome Rob! You are going to have a great week! :)

Thanks Joe, can't wait! :)

Is that your new receiver? How is it working out for you? Does it work well with the Blu ray unit? PCM audio over HDMI? :)

If you are referring to Dr. Hanks, he has the Anthem D2 for PCM audio over HDMI! As will I!

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Edit: oops, Dr.Hankz got in before me to defend himself! :D

Well, I just got back from Magnolia HT, and I am happy to announce that I am now an "official" owner of the Pioneer Elite BDP-HD1 Blu-ray player!

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As a nice bonus, I didn't realize that they include 2 free Blu-ray movies: Invincible and Eight Below. Sure they probably are not the best movies out there, but they were priced just right! ;)

Follow up: just opened the box, only Invincible is in there, not Eight Below. :mad:

Follow up: just opened the box, only Invincible is in there, not Eight Below. :mad:

Rob,

We are no longer shipping Eight Below with our players.....please enjoy Invincible and the player!!

P.S. Don't forget to do your firmware updates on our website.

Congratulations on the new player, Rob. Hope yours works out as well for you as mine has for me.

If I had my choice of movie I would prefer Invincible anyway. ;) Let us know what you think! :)