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stepmback
12-19-06, 03:31 PM
Is it true that the PS3 has be controled by bluetooth? I am intersted in controlling the Blueray drive for my hometheater with my Harmony. Is there a solution for this?

rboster
12-19-06, 03:36 PM
Yes, it is bluetooth. I don't know a lot about the Harmony remotes, but I don't recall the ability to control using BT signal. The only solution that I am aware of is to buy the aftermarket remote offered by Sony. There are several threads already talking about the remote that would come up in a search of this forum

Here is one such thread (there are others)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=768859&highlight=remote

Ron

Innerloop
12-19-06, 04:47 PM
It seems like some enterprising company could make a IR-to-Bluetooth adapter for this. It might not be super cheap, but its far from impossible.

Brian Hampton
12-19-06, 05:26 PM
Hi,

I haven't tried it yet because my PS3 is under the tree, but others have had good luck using the PS2 remote controls that come with IR receivers and then combining that with the radio shack PS2 to USB adapter. I picked up the RS ps2 to USB adapter and a PS2 remote with IR receiver (some don't come with the IR receiver so watch out.) And I told my Harmony I have a ps2. From what I've read it should work once the Blu-Ray player is launched. You can read up about it in the playstation forum here.

-Brian

pidge
12-21-06, 04:43 AM
I was fooling around with my Harmony 880 remote and noticed there is a profile for the PS3 from Logitech so I took my USB IR receiver for my MCE remote control and plugged it into the PS3 USB port. Unfortunately, although the light was blinking on the USB IR receiver, it had no effect on my PS3 :(

Boy I can't believe it is taking so long for Sony to release their remote control.

Neo1965
12-21-06, 06:39 AM
email Logitech tech support and ask. Perhaps there is a specific brand of USB IR that they work with.

tboo
12-21-06, 06:42 AM
On a side note, the PS3 remote is available. I picked one up last night at EB

Neo1965
12-21-06, 07:03 AM
^ Not in Toronto. EB did not have one yesterday. The USB IR is useful for me because of the harmony.

ndtriathlete
12-22-06, 08:55 PM
Neo - Try calling some other Gamestops and EBGames in your area. There are about 5 of those stores in my area, but only one of them had the PS3 remote. Good luck!

rob316
12-22-06, 09:18 PM
I just don't understand Sony they can never make anything easy. Look at the 360 it is IR and you can program the 360 with your harmony. I have an 880 with the 360 programmed and it works great. I am not bashing Sony but geez could they give what the consumer wants. Someone here said that BT is Worldwide and I agree but it is better used for PDA's Cell Phones etc not for a remote control for an entertainment console JMO.

Rob

Neo1965
12-22-06, 09:48 PM
Neo - Try calling some other Gamestops and EBGames in your area. There are about 5 of those stores in my area, but only one of them had the PS3 remote. Good luck!
Near where I live, they said they don't have them yet, these days, there's long lineups (xmas shopping) and often the phone just rings and rings - especially this week.

My preference is the USB-IR as I like my harmony remotes. The wireless kbd works too (F2=floating-menu) and you absolutely need one for web browsing.

bobpaule
12-23-06, 05:10 PM
I did my homework. Here are the Sony original parts:

97076 The remote and the receiver, best here:

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product_Id=3956131&JRSource=yahoo.datafeed.PS2+97076

SCPH-10150 The remote control itself without the IR receiver

SCPH-10160 The IR receiver


AVOID the SCPH-10420 Sony PS2 remotes at EB, Walmart, and Kmart, these do not include the receiver.

I already have the RS adapter.

I kindly suggest you modify your original post to reflect this, otherwise a lot of folks will end up holding the remote in one hand and the PS2 USB adapter in the other hand wondering what to do.

The source of this confusion is that after 2003 PS2s started sporting an IR input, eliminating the need for the receiver.

blackbill
12-23-06, 07:35 PM
The fact is that Sony is good for doing this sort of thing. I have a Sony HC3 Hi def camcorder... it's a nice machine, but the accessory shoe is not the standard size that you would see on ANY other cam. It was purposefully built smaller so that you could only use Sony accessories.... nice cam.... but kind of a cheap thing to do!

Innerloop
12-24-06, 11:19 AM
Here's the thing - I applaud Sony for having the foresight to use Bluetooth rather than IR as a remote control standard for PS3.

Sony took a very forward-thinking approach with this box. Its literally a piece of hardware from the future, landed into my living room with a $300+ Sony incentive.

Bluetooth IS a better system for remote control of home theater, period. PS3 seems to be about putting together a future-proof box that will last for 5-10 years. Bluetooth, Blu ray drive, HDMI 1.3, soft-touch control buttons, slot-loading drive, ultra-quiet fans, etc. Everything has been done without cutting corners.

Infrared is dead. Sony is showing the industry the way forward. With bluetooth we can start controlling our HT gear directly from our PCs, or our cell phones. We can hide our gear behind an opaque surface. We could place our gear at the rear of our theaters. We could hit our projector remote codes without holding an IR remote like a circus performer.

Don't slam Sony for ignoring "what's normal" and trying to give us "what's better".

Mark0
12-24-06, 11:35 AM
Without cutting corners? Are you kidding?
If Sony included an IR port, a remote control, an HDMI cable, upscaling abilities, etc... I might agree.

ADGrant
12-24-06, 11:41 AM
Bluetooth IS a better system for remote control of home theater, period. PS3 seems to be about putting together a future-proof box that will last for 5-10 years. Bluetooth, Blu ray drive, HDMI 1.3, soft-touch control buttons, slot-loading drive, ultra-quiet fans, etc. Everything has been done without cutting corners.

Infrared is dead. Sony is showing the industry the way forward. With bluetooth we can start controlling our HT gear directly from our PCs, or our cell phones. We can hide our gear behind an opaque surface. We could place our gear at the rear of our theaters. We could hit our projector remote codes without holding an IR remote like a circus performer.

Don't slam Sony for ignoring "what's normal" and trying to give us "what's better".

There are no universal remote controls which currently support BlueTooth. There are no other CE devices that use BlueTooth for remote control. While BT may be better in theory, in the real world HT components need to support IR.

Ktak
12-25-06, 01:34 AM
I think he meant the PS3 controllers and remotes come with rechargable batteries charged by USB, so can't take disposable AAs.

Actually, the optional remote control does take disposable AAs, but you can also use rechargeable NiMH batteries if you want.

Innerloop
12-25-06, 11:14 AM
There are no universal remote controls which currently support BlueTooth. There are no other CE devices that use BlueTooth for remote control. While BT may be better in theory, in the real world HT components need to support IR.

Yeah, but there are not HT components right now that support HDMI 1.3 either, but they still included it on the box because its the way of the future. Maybe what we're seeing is a sign of where Sony is going in the future in terms of HT gear, and a couple years from now when we have Bluetooth-controlled HT gear with 2-way communication between the remote & components all of which can work without line-of-sight on inside cabinetry, won't we be a lot better off?

PS3 is a great way to "push" new technology to a massive number of people in a way that few other pieces of hardware can. If PS3 takes off it will push not only the adoption of Blu Ray, but also the adoption of HDMI, BT remotes, etc.

Ken H
12-25-06, 11:58 AM
Keep on topic.

mswlogo
12-26-06, 11:32 AM
Here's the thing - I applaud Sony for having the foresight to use Bluetooth rather than IR as a remote control standard for PS3.

Sony took a very forward-thinking approach with this box. Its literally a piece of hardware from the future, landed into my living room with a $300+ Sony incentive.

Bluetooth IS a better system for remote control of home theater, period. PS3 seems to be about putting together a future-proof box that will last for 5-10 years. Bluetooth, Blu ray drive, HDMI 1.3, soft-touch control buttons, slot-loading drive, ultra-quiet fans, etc. Everything has been done without cutting corners.

Infrared is dead. Sony is showing the industry the way forward. With bluetooth we can start controlling our HT gear directly from our PCs, or our cell phones. We can hide our gear behind an opaque surface. We could place our gear at the rear of our theaters. We could hit our projector remote codes without holding an IR remote like a circus performer.

Don't slam Sony for ignoring "what's normal" and trying to give us "what's better".

I have a Pronto Touch Screen and Harmony remote (so I'd be as ticked off as anybody, but I'm not).

I totally agree with comments above. Need to move forward sometime. So what it's not backwards compatible. If it was, nobody would try the BlueTooth remote. I'm convinced bluetooth is the future. It's everyone else that needs to catch up !!!

I keep pointing the bluetooth remote at the PS3 :-)

If you want to stay in the past buy an XBOX with Component and IR.

It will take some time for others to recognize bluetooth is a great choice for home entertainment remotes. I have many bluetooth devices and Sony's implementation is the cleanest smoothest I've seen.

Kudo's to Sony.

rlsmith
12-26-06, 06:27 PM
Without cutting corners? Are you kidding?
If Sony included an IR port, a remote control, an HDMI cable, upscaling abilities, etc... I might agree.

1. IR port: possibly arguable, but Blue Tooth is better for this sort of thing.
2. Remote and HDMI cable: I have drawers full of cables etc. that came with things that I bought. I would rather pay less and not have these things included.
The PS3 is already a huge bargain.
3. Upscaling capabilities for the PS3 will come with an upgrade we are told.

jayselle
12-26-06, 10:54 PM
Yeah, but there are not HT components right now that support HDMI 1.3 either, but they still included it on the box because its the way of the future. Maybe what we're seeing is a sign of where Sony is going in the future in terms of HT gear, and a couple years from now when we have Bluetooth-controlled HT gear with 2-way communication between the remote & components all of which can work without line-of-sight on inside cabinetry, won't we be a lot better off?

PS3 is a great way to "push" new technology to a massive number of people in a way that few other pieces of hardware can. If PS3 takes off it will push not only the adoption of Blu Ray, but also the adoption of HDMI, BT remotes, etc.

What if the PS3 only supported HDMI 1.3? As it is it supports 1.2 and 1.1 so it is compatible with existing technology.

Would of it been that big of a deal to include an IR port? Cost to Sony is what a couple pennies for the actual IR port and maybe a dollar for integration.

Mark0
12-26-06, 11:08 PM
1. IR port: possibly arguable, but Blue Tooth is better for this sort of thing.
2. Remote and HDMI cable: I have drawers full of cables etc. that came with things that I bought. I would rather pay less and not have these things included.
The PS3 is already a huge bargain.
3. Upscaling capabilities for the PS3 will come with an upgrade we are told.

My point is if they could have spent the extra $10 to include IR port, HDMI cable, remote and upscaling abilities and make this player a much better deal, but it's almost as if Sony purposely went out of their way to NOT make this device a great blu-ray player.

bfdtv
01-03-07, 02:34 AM
I did my homework. Here are the Sony original parts:

97076 The remote and the receiver, best here:

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product_Id=3956131&JRSource=yahoo.datafeed.PS2+97076

SCPH-10150 The remote control itself without the IR receiver

SCPH-10160 The IR receiver
The above link at J&R is the wrong item. I ordered one and they sent me the unit without the IR receiver.

They don't appear to sell the remote with receiver anymore. Does anyone else have a source of these remotes with the IR receiver?

jayselle
01-03-07, 01:41 PM
The above link at J&R is the wrong item. I ordered one and they sent me the unit without the IR receiver.

They don't appear to sell the remote with receiver anymore. Does anyone else have a source of these remotes with the IR receiver?

Just so you know these remotes will only work when the movie is actually playing. You can't turn the unit on and off which might negate it's use if you want to integrate with a universal remote.

MUCHO
01-04-07, 02:37 AM
Just so you know these remotes will only work when the movie is actually playing. You can't turn the unit on and off which might negate it's use if you want to integrate with a universal remote.

Not really - because you still have to physically put the disc in! (Which turns the unit on and auto boots the DVD)

:D

TauRus
01-04-07, 02:47 AM
Just so you know these remotes will only work when the movie is actually playing. You can't turn the unit on and off which might negate it's use if you want to integrate with a universal remote.
If you were talking about the PS3 BT remote, you are wrong - my PS3 remote does turn the PS3 on/off by pressing the playstation button, same as Sixaxis controllers.

sneals2000
01-04-07, 06:42 AM
If you were talking about the PS3 BT remote, you are wrong - my PS3 remote does turn the PS3 on/off by pressing the playstation button, same as Sixaxis controllers.

I don't think this discussion was about the BT remote, it was about configuring the PS3 so that it could be controlled via IR remote so that other IR remote controls could be used (such as the Logitech Harmony, the Philips Pronto universal devices etc.)

Doing so requires a PS2 IR receiver and a PS2 to USB adapter - which then allows a PS2 DVD remote control OR a universal remote pretending to be a PS2 DVD remote control - to control the PS3. However this only works when the PS3 is in BD replay mode - and doesn't allow remote power on and off functionality.

That said, given that you have to physically put a disc into the PS3 to play it, power on and off functionality may not be a total deal breaker for some.

spblat
07-19-07, 04:34 PM
See "Playstation 3 Blu Wave Remote" by Nyko at Amazon. Customer review looks like it's a winner to bridge IR to BT on PS3. Power on and off isn't going to happen with IR.

squall4008
01-07-08, 06:21 PM
See "Playstation 3 Blu Wave Remote" by Nyko at Amazon. Customer review looks like it's a winner to bridge IR to BT on PS3. Power on and off isn't going to happen with IR.

really powering on/off over IR would be possible if sony would power the USB ports while in stand-by, i know there is some demand for this to charge controllers while the system is off

Jakes
01-07-08, 07:32 PM
Hello,
Just another guy ready to jump on the BD bandwagon here. I was ready to buy the PS3 as my BD player until I learned today that the PS3 does not support IR remote codes. This is a huge drawback for me as I have (and love!) the Harmony 880. I do not wish to add another remote to my setup after having eliminated all of them for the 880. The 880 makes things very easy for all users from tuning on ceiling fans and air conditioning to watching DVD's and DVR. The wife is a huge fan of the 880 as well and using the PS3 controller to watch movies would drive me crazy, and make it very difficult for her. I was not buying the PS3 primarily for gaming, but was interested in trying some of the games out, using it as a music server, internet browsing, etc. As difficult for some to understand as this may be, the lack of IR is probably going to be a deal-breaker for me.:(
-Jakes

Ron Jones
01-07-08, 09:18 PM
Hello,
Just another guy ready to jump on the BD bandwagon here. I was ready to buy the PS3 as my BD player until I learned today that the PS3 does not support IR remote codes. This is a huge drawback for me as I have (and love!) the Harmony 880. I do not wish to add another remote to my setup after having eliminated all of them for the 880. The 880 makes things very easy for all users from tuning on ceiling fans and air conditioning to watching DVD's and DVR. The wife is a huge fan of the 880 as well and using the PS3 controller to watch movies would drive me crazy, and make it very difficult for her. I was not buying the PS3 primarily for gaming, but was interested in trying some of the games out, using it as a music server, internet browsing, etc. As difficult for some to understand as this may be, the lack of IR is probably going to be a deal-breaker for me.:(
-Jakes
I've been using my Harmony 880 to control my PS3 since early last spring. To make this work you must purchase an IR-to-USB adapter that simply plugs into one of the PS3's front panel USB ports. Then you can teach your 880 the IR codes from either a PS2 IR remote (if you happen to have one) or from an aftermarket PS3 IR remote (that comes packaged with the required IR-to-USB adapter). Here is the Amazon link for this low cost (ie., $13.99 with free shipping) package: http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-Blu-Wave-Remote/dp/B000R5H7KE******pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1199758612&sr=1-2 This solution supports the basic functions for controlling the PS3 for disc playback, but does not include a power on/off function nor some of the other items (e.g, numeric keys) on the Bluetooth remote Sony sells for the PS3.

MUCHO
01-07-08, 11:11 PM
As difficult for some to understand as this may be, the lack of IR is probably going to be a deal-breaker for me.:(
-Jakes

That's not difficult AT ALL for me to understand.

Nyko Bluwave is your inexpensive answer

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12405876&highlight=nyko#post12405876

It cannot turn it on/off but when you put in a disc the PS3 automatically turns on and starts loading the movie. So you only have to turn it off. Or if you use it to run FAH then you are leaving it on 24/7 anyways.

Alternatively there is a more expensive solution that apparently will soon also control on/off. http://www.schmartz.com/main.sc

Goodluck

wickedmpulse
01-08-08, 01:38 PM
That's not difficult AT ALL for me to understand.

Nyko Bluwave is your inexpensive answer

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12405876&highlight=nyko#post12405876

It cannot turn it on/off but when you put in a disc the PS3 automatically turns on and starts loading the movie. So you only have to turn it off. Or if you use it to run FAH then you are leaving it on 24/7 anyways.

Alternatively there is a more expensive solution that apparently will soon also control on/off. http://www.schmartz.com/main.sc

Goodluck
It's true. I just bought the Nyko Bluwave remote. You plug the IR USB dongle into the front of the PS3 and steal the remote codes from the Nyko remote with you Harmony. The Nyko codes are in the Logitech database so after a little button tweaking, you'll be able to perform all of the basic functions necessary for watching a movie. The Sony Bluetooth remote does more but there's no way to intergrate that with the Harmony so the NYko is your best bet. It's really a must have for anybody with a universal remote.

Jakes
01-08-08, 02:03 PM
Thank you for the links. The "Eclectic Gadget" solution with on/off seems to be exactly what I am after, but I do not have access to a PSP to enable remote start. Jeez, why is something like this so difficult in the year 2008? Without being able to control on/off from the remote, what's the point? PS3 does not seem to integrate/play well with others. BTW, MUCHO what is FAH? Perhaps I could just leave the PS3 on all the time, but it seems like a waste of power unless there is a good reason, and if the PS3 does run hot as others have suggested, then leaving it on all the time will never give it a chance to properly cool.
-Jakes

BillY2KFRC
01-08-08, 03:53 PM
Thank you for the links. The "Eclectic Gadget" solution with on/off seems to be exactly what I am after, but I do not have access to a PSP to enable remote start. Jeez, why is something like this so difficult in the year 2008? Without being able to control on/off from the remote, what's the point? PS3 does not seem to integrate/play well with others. BTW, MUCHO what is FAH? Perhaps I could just leave the PS3 on all the time, but it seems like a waste of power unless there is a good reason, and if the PS3 does run hot as others have suggested, then leaving it on all the time will never give it a chance to properly cool.
-Jakes

My take is this. I use the Nyko Blu Wave solution for my Harmony/PS3 and LOVE it. The power on/off isn't a big deal to me. If I'm turing on my PS3, I'm always putting in a disc, hence I can turn it on from the front of the machine. And when I'm ready to turn it off, I'm taking out a disc, hence I'm already up and in front of the machine again. No biggie to me.

Beerstalker
01-08-08, 05:30 PM
You guys might want to take a look at these devices.
http://www.schmartz.com/main.sc;jsessionid=B4E895D69425218E4D631D27C8D7A3CC.qscweb25 ?categoryId=1

A member here, MMuecke, has designed them to add an IR sensor to the PS3. He has a version without power on/off, and one that attaches to the surface of the power button in order to turn it on and off. They are a little more expensive than the Nyko and other IR remote solutions, but they blend into the PS3 much better, and have much better support.

There is also a thread here in the Remote Control Area that covers these devices and has a lot of good information on them.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=946674

MUCHO
01-08-08, 09:17 PM
BTW, MUCHO what is FAH? Perhaps I could just leave the PS3 on all the time, but it seems like a waste of power unless there is a good reason, and if the PS3 does run hot as others have suggested, then leaving it on all the time will never give it a chance to properly cool.
-Jakes

http://media.ps3.ign.com/articles/773/773231/vids_1.html

lchiu7
01-08-08, 10:55 PM
My take is this. I use the Nyko Blu Wave solution for my Harmony/PS3 and LOVE it. The power on/off isn't a big deal to me. If I'm turing on my PS3, I'm always putting in a disc, hence I can turn it on from the front of the machine. And when I'm ready to turn it off, I'm taking out a disc, hence I'm already up and in front of the machine again. No biggie to me.

I also use the Nyko solution with a Harmony 880. But I usually turn on the PS3 with the BT controller since that also pairs the controller with the PS3 (BT pairing). Can never tell after a movie session if the kids want to play a game or something.

Since I have turned it on with the BT controller, I turn it off that way, or as noted above, since I am likely to be removing the movie or game disc, turn it off at the console itself.

Works fine for me.

Junkhead
01-11-08, 04:03 PM
Could the PS3 be controlled through a tv that can control other HDMI devices????

I have a sony KDS60A3000 that can control other HDMI devices, would i be able to do this with the PS3 and the 880???? :eek::eek:

Oliver Deplace
01-11-08, 10:31 PM
My take is this. I use the Nyko Blu Wave solution for my Harmony/PS3 and LOVE it. The power on/off isn't a big deal to me. If I'm turing on my PS3, I'm always putting in a disc, hence I can turn it on from the front of the machine. And when I'm ready to turn it off, I'm taking out a disc, hence I'm already up and in front of the machine again. No biggie to me.

At least the PS3 will accept the disc immediately. Imagine doing that with a Toshiba HD A1. You walk over to turn on the player, push the eject button, then go get a beverage and take a bathroom break. By the time you return, the tray should be open.

I used to have a Blu-ray controller, but I hated the button placements.

Junkhead
01-12-08, 08:34 AM
At least the PS3 will accept the disc immediately. Imagine doing that with a Toshiba HD A1. You walk over to turn on the player, push the eject button, then go get a beverage and take a bathroom break. By the time you return, the tray should be open.

I used to have a Blu-ray controller, but I hated the button placements.I have an A3 and man that wait still sucks!

arobinator
02-29-08, 03:52 PM
I dont know if this came through on an update but there is now limited support for the PS3's IR functions with the 360 harmony remote. Just add it as a device. You will get the blue tooth warning but you still get the IR commands.:)

Ryan R B
07-08-08, 11:29 PM
Just got my PS3. Agree it is aggravating that I cannot turn it off with my my Harmony and instead have to use my controller or BT remote. I understand that there are various ways to use a PS2 remote adapter and a Harmony remote to control all other functions (aside from on/off). One thing I was told was that the reason the on/off does not work is because the PS3 does not power up the USB outlets before it is on. Has anyone tried (I am sure they have), using a powered USB hub with the usb dongle plugged in it, then connected to the PS3? I guess there are a variety of ways to try to backfeed power to the usb slots, but just curious if it had been tried....

spblat
07-09-08, 12:28 AM
Another thing to consider is that if you have a PSP, you can remotely turn on the PS3 via--get this--wifi. Won't help you much but maybe it's another piece to the puzzle.

lchiu7
07-09-08, 03:59 AM
Just got my PS3. Agree it is aggravating that I cannot turn it off with my my Harmony and instead have to use my controller or BT remote. I understand that there are various ways to use a PS2 remote adapter and a Harmony remote to control all other functions (aside from on/off). One thing I was told was that the reason the on/off does not work is because the PS3 does not power up the USB outlets before it is on. Has anyone tried (I am sure they have), using a powered USB hub with the usb dongle plugged in it, then connected to the PS3? I guess there are a variety of ways to try to backfeed power to the usb slots, but just curious if it had been tried....

There is a huge discussion here on remotes that can power on the PS3

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016741

The bottom line is, power on needs Bluetooth. The USB port is not active when the PS3 is in standby and anyway even if it were powered, there is no control function from USB that can turn it on.

So the devices that enable power on remotely actually appear to use batteries that are charged via the USB port when the PS3 is on and so are always on. They receive an IR signal from a remote (and this could be a Harmony) and then issue the appropriate BT signal to power on the PS3, just as the PS3 controller does.

For my part, I have the Nyko. While it doesn't power on the PS3 I am happy enough to either use the PS3 controller to turn it on (and this also pairs the controller with the PS3 should you wish to play games) and/or just lean down and use the power on button! Playing discs with the Nyko installed I can use my Harmony for basic disc navigation commands.

Larry

Ericdj
05-11-09, 02:13 AM
Best Buy
Distributor: Logitech
Model: 943-000029
Sku: 9274714
Upc: 0-97855-05916-1
Street date: 05.31.09

keylion
05-11-09, 06:58 PM
Best Buy
Distributor: Logitech
Model: 943-000029
Sku: 9274714
Upc: 0-97855-05916-1
Street date: 05.31.09

Just so people know, this is an adaptor for use with Harmony remotes rather than a remote itself. More details here (http://www.sonyinsider.com/2009/05/11/logitech-harmony-adapter-for-ps3-gets-real-coming-at-end-of-may/).

acegamer
05-12-09, 07:34 AM
The logitech harmony adapter is up for sale on Amazon now.

harmony adapter (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Adapter-Playstation-3/dp/B00267S7XW/ref=amb_link_84307351_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=right-3&pf_rd_r=12GTWSWWF8G0QSPMVJ5K&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=477083191&pf_rd_i=507846)

Lee Bombard
05-12-09, 10:00 AM
So how does this fit into a set up with a Harmony One? Does it sit on a shelf facing the PS3? Does it snap onto the actual Harmony One?

Chuck_IV
05-12-09, 10:52 AM
From what it looks like is it is just an IR receiver that translates the IR to Bluetooth commands and sends them to the PS3. So you just aim your remote at it, like any piece of equipment and it shouldn't need to be aimed at the PS3, as the PS3 will just pickup the Bluetooth commands.

I'm guessing this would work for all IR remotes, but I am not sure, as this is the first I've actually seen of it.

averse
05-12-09, 11:46 AM
Not really - because you still have to physically put the disc in! (Which turns the unit on and auto boots the DVD)

http://www.*****************/trafficreport/img/3721/k09f0423lglc/b.gif

Lol. I'm trying to figure it out too.

fireman325
05-12-09, 01:52 PM
So how does this fit into a set up with a Harmony One? Does it sit on a shelf facing the PS3? Does it snap onto the actual Harmony One?

Since it's bluetooth, I doubt if it has to point toward the PS3. Probably just put it up with the rest of your components, and aim your existing Harmony remote in the general direction.

MikeCandler
05-12-09, 04:38 PM
So how does this fit into a set up with a Harmony One? Does it sit on a shelf facing the PS3? Does it snap onto the actual Harmony One?

It plugs into the wall and sits in your setup, all it does it take in an IR command and sends it back out via blue tooth to your PS3. I just ordered mine and plan on simply putting it beside the PS3 as its not a large unit.

What I am wondering is if this will be able to power on and off the Wii as well moving forward...would only make sense.

fireman325
05-12-09, 04:44 PM
It plugs into the wall and sits in your setup, all it does it take in an IR command and sends it back out via blue tooth to your PS3. I just ordered mine and plan on simply putting it beside the PS3 as its not a large unit.

What I am wondering is if this will be able to power on and off the Wii as well moving forward...would only make sense.

That's an interesting idea, and would be kinda nice. What I wonder is, after you've paired it with a PS3 and a Wii, would it power on both consoles every time?

Geaux Tigers
05-12-09, 05:16 PM
I own an IR2BT that I allows me to control my PS3 using my Harmony Remote. It allows for complete control including turning the PS3 on and off. I would love for Harmony to put the PS3 symbols in its database (X,O, etc.) If someone has bought the Harmony PS3 converter then please let us know what symbols are in the Harmony database. I am hopeful that the Harmony PS3 adapter will encourage Harmony to make the PS3 symbols available to those that want them. I hope Harmony does not penalize those who bought other IR to BT converters as it is not our fault that it took Harmony so long to come up with its own product.

nated
05-12-09, 05:34 PM
I've been waiting patiently for Logitech to release their PS3 adapter since it was announced. Now it's just a waiting game until I can pick one up in The Great White North™. Can't wait!

keylion
05-12-09, 08:07 PM
Although it's what we've been waiting for, would you not say $60 is a little expensive for an adaptor, no matter how good it is?

fireman325
05-12-09, 09:24 PM
Although it's what we've been waiting for, would you not say $60 is a little expensive for an adaptor, no matter how good it is?

I was gonna order an IR4PS3 a while back, but after the shipping costs from Canada it was about the same price. Some of the other full-function solutions (IR2BT (http://ir2bt.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=11&zenid=0002be6c7a1e9da72faca1ad34658480)) are even more expensive. Having said that, I still hope I can pick up one up for a little less $$ at some point.

wvasko
05-13-09, 07:22 AM
Well I know it's on the expensive side, I'm getting too old to chase women, drink whiskey and all that entails(I can still chase it's the catching I'm having a problem with) So at least I can dabble with this electronic stuff(which I do believe is not as expensive as the women/whiskey stuff anyway) Aside from the fact that my wife is 7 ft tall and a mean woman.

I ordered one from Amazon this morning and will get a report back as soon as it comes. I got the free shipping so it could be at least a week to 9 days you never know.

Chuck_IV
05-13-09, 08:04 AM
It now makes more sense as to why IR2BT skyrocketed their prices. They must have known this was coming and tried to cash in on their setup before the masses got wind of Logitech's device.

$60 while a tick on the pricey side(compared to the original IR2BT) but is not bad for what it does, if you want full integration of your devices into one remote. I'm wondering if it is programmable if Sony ever adds other commands to the PS3.

I'm actually surprised it took a larger company so long to mass market one of these devices. What's even stranger is why Sony didn't try to cash in on this and market their own device.

MikeCandler
05-13-09, 09:48 AM
I own an IR2BT that I allows me to control my PS3 using my Harmony Remote. It allows for complete control including turning the PS3 on and off. I would love for Harmony to put the PS3 symbols in its database (X,O, etc.) If someone has bought the Harmony PS3 converter then please let us know what symbols are in the Harmony database. I am hopeful that the Harmony PS3 adapter will encourage Harmony to make the PS3 symbols available to those that want them. I hope Harmony does not penalize those who bought other IR to BT converters as it is not our fault that it took Harmony so long to come up with its own product.

The IR2BT does not have a home button correct? Thats going to be the one major difference with the logitech PS3 adapter as it has all 51 commands (same as the PS3 BD remote).
The current Harmony One I have already has the X,O,etc buttons mapped on the touch screen...obviously cannot use them right now but they are there so presumably all that will need to be done is add the new device and its good to go :). Mine will be here next Tuesday (shipped from USA to Canada) but I will report back how everything works for every one.

wvasko
05-13-09, 11:26 AM
The IR2BT does not have a home button correct? Thats going to be the one major difference with the logitech PS3 adapter as it has all 51 commands (same as the PS3 BD remote).
The current Harmony One I have already has the X,O,etc buttons mapped on the touch screen...obviously cannot use them right now but they are there so presumably all that will need to be done is add the new device and its good to go :). Mine will be here next Tuesday (shipped from USA to Canada) but I will report back how everything works for every one.
Do they have the PS3 already set up that you can go to Logitech and install now.

Geaux Tigers
05-13-09, 12:53 PM
The IR2BT does not have a home button correct? Thats going to be the one major difference with the logitech PS3 adapter as it has all 51 commands (same as the PS3 BD remote).
The current Harmony One I have already has the X,O,etc buttons mapped on the touch screen...obviously cannot use them right now but they are there so presumably all that will need to be done is add the new device and its good to go :). Mine will be here next Tuesday (shipped from USA to Canada) but I will report back how everything works for every one.

The IR2BT allows you to use all 51 commands from the PS3 as far as I know. The IR2BT I believe I originally bought for $50. The owner of the company decided to no longer sell the original IR2BT and now sells an upscale version that has more features but costs $150. The IR2BT has been a great IR to BT converter. Sony issued a FW upgrade for the PS3 that affected the IR2BT that I owned but my IR2BT was upgraded for free which fixed the problem. I can not imagine the Harmony PS3 controller being much different than any of the other IR to BT converters for the PS3 that are currently on the market.

Harmony is a very good company and I am sure that the PS3 converter that they are making is a good product but it is my understanding that all of the IR to BT converters on the market allow you to use all of the commands that are available for the PS3. The NYKO Blue-Wave remote is different as it is not a converter but simply an IR to USB dongle for the PS3 that gives you control over most of the major functions of the PS3. I originally used the NYKO dongle with my Harmony remote but bought the IR2BT because I wanted full control over my PS3 including the ability to turn the player on and off remotely.

I wonder how many more PS3's Sony could have sold had they not decided to partially cripple the player by not including IR support for the player. I only use my PS3 to watch Blu-ray's and occasionally display photos. I do not own a game for my PS3 nor have I ever played a game on it. I bought my PS3 because it was the best blu-ray player available at the time and I have been very satisfied with the player. The PS3 is the only original player that has been upgradeable to profile 2.0 (BD-Live.)

I am surprised that it has taken Harmony this long to bring its own converter to market and I will be interested in the reviews.

dogdoctor
05-13-09, 04:08 PM
The IR2BT does not have a home button correct? Thats going to be the one major difference with the logitech PS3 adapter as it has all 51 commands (same as the PS3 BD remote).
The current Harmony One I have already has the X,O,etc buttons mapped on the touch screen...obviously cannot use them right now but they are there so presumably all that will need to be done is add the new device and its good to go :). Mine will be here next Tuesday (shipped from USA to Canada) but I will report back how everything works for every one.All the competition within the IR to BT conveter group can do all 51 keys (including PS key). And some have actually gone further to use other IR commands not specific to the PS3 to generate discrete on and off macro codes. There is a recent addition to the Schmartz market called the PS3IR-1000 $80, that also boasts powerstate sensing of the PS3. It is IMO that this harmony device is going to be an oversized, glammed up version of the original IR2BT (unless they allow firmware updates via the logitech website). It is uncertain at this time if it will even allow BT macro sequences to be emmited directly from the box from a single IR input command. I'll await people reviews and hope some will pass them along in the IR to BT Converter comparison thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016741).

wvasko
05-14-09, 07:53 AM
This is just a Harmony 1 adventure. I got on line with remote to download the PS3 game settings as I have ordered the new Logitech adapter. (thought I would get ahead of the program so that all would be ready when I got adapter) I have 2 accounts one for a H-670 and one for the H1 account so I get to web page and put in the proper password etc and it tells me welcome to my H1 account. So I add the new device, the PS 3 game console. To make a long story short when I get done It had somehow mixed up the 670 and H1 accounts and on H1 I now had my 670 TV and it wiped totally out an HDMI switch device I had and all the "Additional Buttons" and "Favorites" and "Activities" on the rest of the H1 devices were wiped out again totally. I spent the afternoon redoing all the device buttons and still have more work to do. I am ready now for my PS3 adapter but it did take some work. I have no idea what happened or why, just thought I would dump the mishap on forum. Do not get me wrong, I like my Harmony remotes but the online adventure kinda bit me on the butt.

EVT
05-15-09, 11:12 AM
The IR2BT does not have a home button correct? Thats going to be the one major difference with the logitech PS3 adapter as it has all 51 commands (same as the PS3 BD remote).
The current Harmony One I have already has the X,O,etc buttons mapped on the touch screen...obviously cannot use them right now but they are there so presumably all that will need to be done is add the new device and its good to go :). Mine will be here next Tuesday (shipped from USA to Canada) but I will report back how everything works for every one.

Mike,

Where did you order the adapter from that ships to Canada I'm looking to do the same thing as I can't find it locally in Toronto.

Mike1117
05-18-09, 01:50 PM
I bought the Harmony solution. Very easy to set up & works perfect. Does not attach to the PS3 and I don't believe it needs to be in sight of the PS3 - just needs to be in sight of the remote.

Foxbat121
05-18-09, 02:17 PM
This is just a Harmony 1 adventure. I got on line with remote to download the PS3 game settings as I have ordered the new Logitech adapter. (thought I would get ahead of the program so that all would be ready when I got adapter) I have 2 accounts one for a H-670 and one for the H1 account so I get to web page and put in the proper password etc and it tells me welcome to my H1 account. So I add the new device, the PS 3 game console. To make a long story short when I get done It had somehow mixed up the 670 and H1 accounts and on H1 I now had my 670 TV and it wiped totally out an HDMI switch device I had and all the "Additional Buttons" and "Favorites" and "Activities" on the rest of the H1 devices were wiped out again totally. I spent the afternoon redoing all the device buttons and still have more work to do. I am ready now for my PS3 adapter but it did take some work. I have no idea what happened or why, just thought I would dump the mishap on forum. Do not get me wrong, I like my Harmony remotes but the online adventure kinda bit me on the butt.



Did you use Harmony app to configure or use standard browser when this happened? I too have two accounts for two different Harmony remotes. But I usually use the browser to configure them (http://memebers.harmonyremote.com) instead of using the app. This way I can avoid any mishap like you just experienced. I only use the Harmony app to flash the remote.

wvasko
05-18-09, 03:00 PM
Did you use Harmony app to configure or use standard browser when this happened? I too have two accounts for two different Harmony remotes. But I usually use the browser to configure them (http://memebers.harmonyremote.com) instead of using the app. This way I can avoid any mishap like you just experienced. I only use the Harmony app to flash the remote.
Sure now you tell me, No big deal but I will give it a try next time.
Thank You

MikeCandler
05-20-09, 01:27 PM
Mike,

Where did you order the adapter from that ships to Canada I'm looking to do the same thing as I can't find it locally in Toronto.

Hey sorry for the late reply, I ordered mine from Amazon.com actually came in this morning so I will be hooking it up and trying it out tonight.

EVT
05-20-09, 11:28 PM
Thanks Mike.

Did you ship it to a Canadian address? When I tried to process the transaction amazon would not allow shipping to my address.

MikeCandler
05-22-09, 09:03 AM
Thanks Mike.

Did you ship it to a Canadian address? When I tried to process the transaction amazon would not allow shipping to my address.

Yes I shipped directly to my house in London, Ont thats odd though I order from .com all the time maybe fire them an email might be something with your address.

wvasko
05-22-09, 08:22 PM
It was delivered on the 20th, hooked it up on the 21st. It took all of 5 minutes to get it up and running and then I got online and changed the additional buttons printing to caps moved PS button to number 1. and PS3 Off button to number 2. If I was a puppy my tail would be wagging all over the place. As others have said it is so small you can stick it anywhere and another interesting tidbit is that the AC-Adapter is cool to the touch. This sometimes does not happen with some AC-Adapters that get warm to touch. The 1st time I hit the off button and it went through the macro shut-off I didn't believe it, I had to do it again. As everybody knows what works on one system sometimes is a surprise on another system. I actually now have put to rest 7 remotes in the remote burial drawer.

nated
06-01-09, 02:04 PM
Netlink just put up their product page for the Harmony adapter:

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=72935K

They are doing free shipping with the $10 gift card as well, pretty good deal.

lwright84
06-02-09, 11:44 AM
http://www.google.com/products?q=harmony+ps3+adapter&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=aEglSureAeaDlAeapaHtBw&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title

Sub-$60 everywhere practically. There's also a great review\experience guide on engadget:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/05/19/logitech-harmony-adapter-for-the-playstation-3-review/