View Full Version : Best 2 channel match for Focal 1007`s?


audiophile82
12-19-06, 04:37 PM
Well, yesterday you helped me decide to keep my two babies (Focal 1007 Be), and therefore I`ve been looking forward even though I can`t afford anything at this time. Today I use an Atoll IN100 amplifier to drive them, and I am very satisfied with it. However, the 1007`s costs about 3 times as much as it does, so I`m thinking there might be a 2 channel amp that will suit them better?

What would be a good match below a price range of about 3000$?

And yes, I´m looking forward 6 months now, but it is always nice to plan things thoroughly...

jewel5
12-19-06, 05:14 PM
Personally, I use a $299 Carvin pro amp to drive my dali Helicon 800s, so I don't agree that you need a similarly expensive amp to drive expensive speakers, but that's an argument for another day. :) If your amp has enough power to drive the speakers without distortion, that should probably be your main concern.

AudioArchitect
12-19-06, 05:18 PM
Well, yesterday you helped me decide to keep my two babies (Focal 1007 Be), and therefore I`ve been looking forward even though I can`t afford anything at this time. Today I use an Atoll IN100 amplifier to drive them, and I am very satisfied with it. However, the 1007`s costs about 3 times as much as it does, so I`m thinking there might be a 2 channel amp that will suit them better?

What would be a good match below a price range of about 3000$?

And yes, I´m looking forward 6 months now, but it is always nice to plan things thoroughly...

Krell KAV400xi
Arcam A32
Bryston B100SST
Simaudio i5.3

audiophile82
12-20-06, 01:38 AM
It has plenty of power and drives them with great sound, I was only thinking I might get even more out of them, and that maybe a costlier speaker would have better resolution and grip? But perhaps my current amp is good enough then...

audiophile82
12-20-06, 01:41 AM
Krell KAV400xi
Arcam A32
Bryston B100SST
Simaudio i5.3

Thank for the suggestions, but those amps cost far more than my specified 3000$ budget, The Bryston sells for 5600$ here....

cpu8088
12-20-06, 03:54 AM
musical fidelity a5

audiophile82
12-20-06, 07:47 AM
How do you think they would sound together with Parasound electronics? Ex. Halo P3 - A23?

ericgl
12-20-06, 08:03 AM
Well, yesterday you helped me decide to keep my two babies (Focal 1007 Be), and therefore I`ve been looking forward even though I can`t afford anything at this time. Today I use an Atoll IN100 amplifier to drive them, and I am very satisfied with it. ...

Then spend your money elsewhere (where it will actually make a difference). Could your room benefit from treatments?

audiophile82
12-20-06, 08:08 AM
Then spend your money elsewhere (where it will actually make a difference). Could your room benefit from treatments?

Maybe, but I am a student and I rent the place I live.

Another project I have coming up is getting a hifi-sub for the 1007s, and I`ve got a SVS SB12 as a candidate there, perhaps that would be better use of my money next year...

ericgl
12-20-06, 08:56 AM
Maybe, but I am a student and I rent the place I live.

Another project I have coming up is getting a hifi-sub for the 1007s, and I`ve got a SVS SB12 as a candidate there, perhaps that would be better use of my money next year...

A better area to spend your dough, IMO.

cpu8088
12-20-06, 10:00 AM
simaudio i5 or i7

latinaudio
01-24-07, 11:40 AM
Almost all Focal speakers shares the same sound: fast, clean, clear AND dry...
Because of this, you will need a warm and soft amp. Tubes are the first choice, try Cayin or Prima Luna: low powered amps that match with the +90 sensitivity of your 1007Be, and cheap too.
Second choice are solid state like NAD gear (very affordable) that are smooth and gentle, or a step up to Musical Fidelity A3 (150 watts, more than enough) or A5.
If you want to spend a lot of money (you will not need it, is better to use expensive speakers with budget electronics than reverse) then go with the Simaudio 5.3 or a better old choice: Mc Intosh 6500 (full, warm, round) that will mate PERFECTLY with the JM Labs.
The Parasound gear was into my candidates (I own a pair of Electra 926) but the sound is harsh for this kind of speakers: look elsewhere.
A final word: your speakers are very sensitive to room placement and toe in. Try different positions, one at a time, specially with no toe in at all.
You will be rewarded with a clean sound than anything else at this price can equal.

audiophile82
01-24-07, 12:42 PM
Well, already they play like gems, crystal clear and with amazing bassqualities for their size. The sound is incredible. I have owned other Focals as well, and the tweeter in your Electras is bit harsh in my opinion. The beryllium is quite a bit better, IMHO.

Which Prima Luna would you recommend me?

When it comes to placement, I have experimented a bit recently and now I have the about 2.2 metres apart (small appartment) and with some toe in. No foam insertions. The soundstage is incredible.

TurboFC3S
01-24-07, 02:49 PM
I wouldn't say the 1007be's need a warm/smooth amp unless you want the final overall sound to be warm/smooth. They're a very neutral speaker, get a neutral amp and tweak your overall sound to your liking from there.

For placement, just use the placement rules listed on the Cardas website. What's he call it, the Golden Cubiod or something?

latinaudio
01-24-07, 05:24 PM
The Prima Luna Prologue One, the Prologue Two is 25% costlier (use different tube complement) for 5 more watts.
In this case, use a subwoofer a let the amp run the Focals, it´s only 35 watts p/ch. I forgot to mention that in the recent CES show, the Focal 1027 was demoed with Pathos Acoustics gear, take a look at the Pathos Acoustics Classic One, an hybrid integrated amp with 85 watts.

latinaudio
01-26-07, 12:29 AM
All the Focals speakers are on the white, dry side of the spectrum, they are not neutral.
If you use a neutral amp or cd, you will end up with a flat, uninvolving sound: a totally different experience than the one you have with a Vandersteen, for example.
The best of the Focals is their precise and clear sound, ultra fast response and the feeling of inmediacy, because of this they are not full and bodied speakers. This trade-off is the hallmark (in my opinion) of the brand.
Go ahead with valves, use them with BAT, Conrad Johnson or Cary and you will know what I am talking about: an almost tactile sound, with warm AND speed (AudioArchitect: take note). Also, give a try pairing them with Cardas cable: another league!

MIkeDuke
01-26-07, 09:38 AM
Try Pathos The Clasic one might be worth a look
http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/pathos-classic1_e.html
http://www.pathosacoustics.com/newclassiceng.htm
I heard an all pathos setup with 1027Be's at CES and it was fantastic. It's price might be where you want to be.
Here is a review of it.
http://www.avguide.com/products/product-3484/?download=%2Ffile-download%3Freview%3D2030

audiophile82
01-26-07, 09:47 AM
I contacted a retailer of Pathos, who had some experience with Focal Utopia and he said the Classic One MK3 might be a bit lean and not powerful enough. He suggested either the Unision Research Unico SE or Pathos Logos. Both a bit more expensive than what I want to buy. Tough choices...

What do you guys think of the Creek Audio Destiny integrated?

MIkeDuke
01-26-07, 10:07 AM
That's too bad. Now, the system I heard was a top of the line $$$$ system so that might have had something to do with it :).
Another option may be Blue Circle. They have an integrated amp that puts out 110 watts. That should be plenty. And I know that some one had a system with Alto Utopia's and a full set of BC gear.
http://www.bluecircle.com/index.php?menu_id=3175
That is the NSCS one.
PM me if it looks interesting to you.

ZeroEight
08-06-07, 03:38 AM
All the Focals speakers are on the white, dry side of the spectrum, they are not neutral.
If you use a neutral amp or cd, you will end up with a flat, uninvolving sound: a totally different experience than the one you have with a Vandersteen, for example.
The best of the Focals is their precise and clear sound, ultra fast response and the feeling of inmediacy, because of this they are not full and bodied speakers. This trade-off is the hallmark (in my opinion) of the brand.
Go ahead with valves, use them with BAT, Conrad Johnson or Cary and you will know what I am talking about: an almost tactile sound, with warm AND speed (AudioArchitect: take note). Also, give a try pairing them with Cardas cable: another league!
Focal 1027be's do not sound dry and lean with YBA or Bladelius amps, to me anyways. I am looking forward to listening to them through Sim as well. However, the Focals did not sound as good with cheaper electronics (like lower end Nad, Onkyo).