OT: MacBook + Boot Camp & FlipFlop's Linux CD???

[R8ders2K]

Greetings,

Does anyone know or has tried booting an Intel based MacBook with Boot Camp running WinXP SP2 with FlipFlop's Linux Boot CD?

I'm wondering if this particular combination will work so I can stop borrow a friend's PC laptop when I need to update a Replay to add the D* D-10 IR codes.

TIA :)

[madSkeelz]

I'm sure it'll work, but I'd be happy to confirm if you post a link to the CD. [And yes, I am too lazy to search.]

The real question is how you're going to get your MacBook to talk to an Ultra ATA hard drive.

And just to be clear, you don't need to partition your hard drive or have WinXP installed to boot off of a Live Linux CD like FlipFlop's. It'll "just work" with any Intel-based Mac.

[R8ders2K]

Here's the info for FlipFlop's Linux Boot CD.

Adding new IR Blaster codes to a ReplayTV (to add control for certain DirecTV receivers and others)

(Including DirecTV D10, D11, H10 and H20 receivers)

From: FlipFlop in the Adding new IR Blaster codes to the Replay unit thread at AVS Forum. (This method doesn't rely on or need any other program (like DVArchive or WiRNS) to transfer new IR codes to your ReplayTV.)

"I rebuilt the bootable CD image with a function to automatically detect all ReplayTV units, and automatically copy the 13 RID files that I found floating around this thread. Now installing RID files is as easy as 1,2,3, without any need for WiRNS or DVArchive.

To install a RID file on the ReplayTV, use the following procedure.

1) Create a bootable CD using the image from sourceforge.net (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=17245&package_id=13712)
2) Boot your computer using this CD image
- after booting it should automatically detect your ReplayTV(s)
and automatically copy the necessary files to the Photo partition
3) On your ReplayTV, switch the network configuration to static, and set both
DNS server settings on your ReplayTV to match the IP address reported on
your computer (be sure to note what your previous settings were)
4) On your ReplayTV, select Menu..Setup..Connect to ReplayTV Service Now to
force it to connect through your PC.

If all goes well, you should get a clock and a CPU meter pop up on the screen
during the net connect. These are done at the beginning and end of the script
just so you can see that the script began and completed.
Use 2-4-3-Zones to access the debug menus and toggle these back off.

Now you should be able to set your device up with one of the following codes

2000 all pansats
2001 all viewsats V1
2002 all viewsats V2
2003 all dreambox
2004 all coolsats
2005 Accurian
2006 3500S
2007 DirecTV D10
2008 LG LST-3xxx
2009 PanSat2500
2010 Sylvania SRZ3000
2011 USDTV Receiver
2012 Viewsat

Once things are working, restore the ReplayTV network configuration to your
previous settings. You can also safely remove the "install" photo directory
from your ReplayTV(s). This folder was automatically created during the
install process."

[madSkeelz]

Ohhh. It's all LAN-based. He sure is a clever monkey. And, it's only 10MB. No need to burn a CD, you can boot off of a USB stick!

[R8ders2K]

I'm sure it'll work, but I'd be happy to confirm if you post a link to the CD. [And yes, I am too lazy to search.]

The real question is how you're going to get your MacBook to talk to an Ultra ATA hard drive.

And just to be clear, you don't need to partition your hard drive or have WinXP installed to boot off of a Live Linux CD like FlipFlop's. It'll "just work" with any Intel-based Mac.

I already posted the link (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=17245&package_id=13712) to FlipFlop's CD in my other reply.

I guess I'm a little confused... :confused:

I thought that since the MacBook is booting into Mac OS X, won't it have to be set to boot into Windows, via Boot Camp, in order to boot of the Linux CD?

[R8ders2K]

Ohhh. It's all LAN-based. He sure is a clever monkey. And, it's only 10MB. No need to burn a CD, you can boot off of a USB stick!

REALLY? How would I do that?

[madSkeelz]

Well rats. My mind got ahead of itself. FlipFlop would have to re-roll the ISO to enable USB booting support. So, maybe the next time he builds the image, we can ask him to add that in.

[FlipFlop, if you're lurking, check out refit.sf.net, I think it's probably enough to get you started.]

Anyhoo, burning the ISO to a CD will def. work. Just make sure the MacBook has all the latest firmware updates from Apple.

[Creech]

Is there any reason to load Windows? Intel Macs run Linux just fine.

[R8ders2K]

Is there any reason to load Windows? Intel Macs run Linux just fine.

Thanks for the input, but merely running Linux isn't the question.

What I'm looking for is confirmation that if I insert FlipFlop's Linux Boot CD into a MacBook, will it automatically boot from the CD or will I first have to enable Windows via Boot Camp inorder for the CD to load first? Or do I merely hold down the "C" key when booting the MacBook?

I understand the MacBook is essentially a PC laptop that boots into Mac OS X, but I'd like to see if I can use it to load FlipFlop's CD so I can stop borrowing a PC laptop to do the same thing.

My only confusion is whether or not I'm supposed to hold down the "C" key. As how else do I tell the MacBook to boot from the CD. Or will it merely boot from the CD without holding the "C" key...?

Thanks in advance. :)

[madSkeelz]

Yes, you can burn FlipFlop's ISO image to a CD-R, and then boot your MacBook Pro with it.

You do not need to do anything with the BootCamp Assistant. You don't need to download it, you don't need to run it.

To boot from a CD [regardless of which OS is on the CD], you can either hold down the C key during startup, hold down the OPTION key during startup and select the CD from the boot picker, or select the CD in the Startup Disk preference pane.

[R8ders2K]

Yes, you can burn FlipFlop's ISO image to a CD-R, and then boot your MacBook Pro with it.

You do not need to do anything with the BootCamp Assistant. You don't need to download it, you don't need to run it.

To boot from a CD [regardless of which OS is on the CD], you can either hold down the C key during startup, hold down the OPTION key during startup and select the CD from the boot picker, or select the CD in the Startup Disk preference pane.

GREAT! That's what I was looking for the "old" hold down the OPTION key during startup. I've probably forgotten more stuff about the Mac that I'm willing to admit. :D Forgot about that little thing. Haven't used it since the beginning of the Mac OS 9/Mac OS X days.

All of my Macs are PPC based and my wife's new MacBook (her Christmas present) will be my first Intel based Mac.

THANKS!! :)

[little_blaine]

All of my Macs are PPC based and my wife's new MacBook (her Christmas present) will be my first Intel based Mac.



You mean your wife's first Intel based Mac right? :D

I'm on the same boat as you, used to be a huge mac fan up to the mac os 8 days, then gave up and put them all in storage for a while, but now I'm getting back into it. I got an core duo mini earlier this year and Santa came early and brought me a macbook pro just yesterday... I'm loving every minute. Wonderful systems.

[R8ders2K]

You mean your wife's first Intel based Mac right? :D .

Ah, yeah... That's what I meant... ;)

I'm on the same boat as you, used to be a huge mac fan up to the mac os 8 days, then gave up and put them all in storage for a while, but now I'm getting back into it. I got an core duo mini earlier this year and Santa came early and brought me a macbook pro just yesterday... I'm loving every minute. Wonderful systems.

I've been a Mac user since the Mac 512K days and even worked for a couple of Mac developers, Living VideoText of MORE fame and SuperMac Technology.

[little_blaine]

Supermac technology? Would that be UMAX? That rang a bell since I still have one of the UMAX supermac clones, G3 upgrade card inside, mac os 8 in all its glory. If not, what was supermac? A quick web search also shows a maker of graphics chipsets that was acquired by radius in 1994.

[R8ders2K]

I was with SuperMac PRIOR to the Radius acquistition/merger. I left Living VideoText after it was acquired by Symantec and joined SuperMac's tech support.

Apple had already shipped the Mac II when I joined SuperMac. At that time, SuperMac was known for it's 19" color Sony Trinitron monitor, the XP20, a hard disk drive, and DiskFit, a backup utility and SuperSpool, a print spooler utility. Later, SuperMac went on to add other software like SuperLaserSpool for the LaserWriter, PixelPaint and PixelPaint Pro, and Acknowledge (a telecommunications application).

I left SuperMac to change careers.

And to set the record straight and contrary to RasterOps' (whom acquired Truevision and later was acquired by Pinnacle Systems) claims, SuperMac was THE first to demonstrate 24-bit accelerated video, three 8-bit video cards hardwared together to a C-Cube JPEG compression card, and THE to show digital video before it became the norm. Remember the CinePak codec? That was SuperMac's.

[R8ders2K]

Okay, FlipFlop's Linux Boot CD will work on a MacBook using the OPTION key at boot. :)

However, :eek: it did not find/recognize any of my Replays on my network. I noted the following error...

Failed to find nameserver in '/etc/reslov.config' [FAILED]

The MacBook was hooked up to my wireless network via a WET54G and was able to access the internet and AirPort Admin Utility was able to see the AirPort Extreme BS and AirPort Expresses, prior to booting off the CD.

Any ideas...?

FlipFlop, you out there...?

[madSkeelz]

You should probably be doing this with everything hard-wired. It's unlikely FlipFlop's CD includes the correct driver's for your MacBook's WiFi NIC.

[R8ders2K]

I didn't use the internal AirPort Extreme WiFi. Instead, I had the MacBook hooked up via ethernet to a Linksys WET54G.

This particular combination worked fine for regular PC laptop.

But I'll give a hardwire hook up a try.

[gatomon]

I downloaded the CD (.iso) image, burnt it with toast and booted off the cd. Turned on DHCP on my router (normally off) and used a hardwired ethernet connect. When I boot off the disk, the linux starts, but it does not see the two replaytv's I have. Had same problems as R8ders2K. I believe the networking is not being set correctly, maybe the ethernet driver is missing?

I have a cheap compaq laptop that I run with Ubuntu (linux); it dual boots with windows XP. I booted using the CD and it worked as advertised (** THANKS FlipFlop **). It would be nice if a revision of the disk could be made so that intel macs work (I could help if there is interest).

By the way, I've compiled RTVPatch (version 2.5.5) on the MacBook Pro too. Maybe we can post it somewhere if there is interest (I have a PCC version too).

-Chris