http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/5029_paramount/en/web/

Hm, don't really like that organic rounded look of the robots. I guess it would be impossible to keep the old-school feel without it looking equally lame though...

R.I.P. childhood memories.

The movie looks like it will be a feast for our HT's :D ... Looking forward to it!. :cool:

The movie looks like it will be a feast for our HT's :D ... Looking forward to it!. :cool:

Shoot, it already is. I downloaded the HD trailer here:

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/transformers_hd.html

Played it in my theater, (106 inches of transforming Optimus Prime! Boo-yah!) and I don't think I could've geeeked out any more than I did. LOL

Yup agree it would rock on our HT.

Wow. From this trailer it seems like a rather frightening film to be based on a child's action toy. I guess in this day and age that's what it needs.

Whoa. That looks cool.

In the original cartoon, The transformers came to Earth and fought against each other, ignoring the humans. In this movie it looks like they are trying to take over the planet.

I like!

Thank God it isn't going to be a cartoon.
BTW, this trailer rocks!

...........uhmm looks like any other Bay movie, even with Spielberg as EP. We shall see!

Loved what I saw, can't wait until next July to see it. Since I got my theater I haved pretty much stopped going to the movies, but I think I will have to make an exception for this movie.

It does look like it should sound great at home though. :D

nice!

That trailer is simply amazing! I echo the sentiments expresed, I really can't wait to see and hear it both in the theater and in my HT. Glad they waited till the technology is available to do the transformers in the right way, and in real time instead of animated. Watching them transform in the trailer sure brings back memories. Sigh.
BTW : Anybody seen the recently re-released version of the old 1986 movie?

Looks more and more like exactly what I've been fearing, that the movie will be all about the humans with the "evil robots" secondary. There's basically nothing recognizable about any of the classic robot characters in that trailer. And being a Michael Bay movie, all of the transformation sequences will be quick-cut edited in an incoherent series of 1/4 second-long shots.

Was there really no one else in all of Hollywood available who could direct this instead?

I have no idea who Shia LaBeouf and Travis Van Winkle are, but that trailer looks pretty damn promising....

I hope that there is actually somewhat of a plotline and interesting dialogue, and not just special effects...but the trailer really has made me interested!

I have no idea who Shia LaBeouf and Travis Van Winkle are, but that trailer looks pretty damn promising....

Shia LaBeouf is Hollywood's favorite go-to guy for the designated "teenage sidekick" character in their big budget movies. See: Charlie's Angels 2, I Robot, Constantine.

Come on Josh ..stop Barricadin'. LOL

I liked this trailer and I'm hoping Bay injects an actual story behind this action. The soundtrack needs to rock here.

Looks more and more like exactly what I've been fearing, that the movie will be all about the humans with the "evil robots" secondary. There's basically nothing recognizable about any of the classic robot characters in that trailer. And being a Michael Bay movie, all of the transformation sequences will be quick-cut edited in an incoherent series of 1/4 second-long shots.

Was there really no one else in all of Hollywood available who could direct this instead?

Yep, quiet frankly I was much more intrigued by that Mars teaser a few months back, now this "ID4" type thing just gives me a feeling I like I saw this movie already.

In the spirit of traditional Bay films, this movie is going to be the "guilty pleasure" viewing experience of the summer. Count me in!

Yep, quiet frankly I was much more intrigued by that Mars teaser a few months back, now this "ID4" type thing just gives me a feeling I like I saw this movie already.

Just wait until they reveal that the energon cube everyone is fighting over is actually an old Powerbook hidden at Jeff Goldblum's house somewhere in Berverly Hills. OH NOES WAS THAT A SPOILER? ;)

And being a Michael Bay movie, all of the transformation sequences will be quick-cut edited in an incoherent series of 1/4 second-long shots.


I'm calling this one. Your beef with the transformations will be relegated to trailers only. If there's one thing Bay can actually be relied on, it's too much of a good thing. I'll bet there will be plenty of full transformation sequences.

We can wager something if you like... like my used Insectacon grasshopper kickback. :P

As for the movie sucking or not... well... Micheal hasn't made a movie I liked yet, but there's always a first time! ^_^

Just wait until they reveal that the energon cube everyone is fighting over is actually an old Powerbook hidden at Jeff Goldblum's house somewhere in Berverly Hills. OH NOES WAS THAT A SPOILER? ;)

Considering the absolutely absurd amount of product placement in Michael Bay's last movie (seriously, why would these clones living in an underground bunker need to wear Puma sneakers and drink Aquafina?), I can only imagine how he'll go to town with this one. He's obviously got some auto manufacturers lined up for branding.

Josh, isn't any movie good to you? Please list the one's you do.

The trailer made me anxious to see it. I'm taking it for what most Michael Bay films are - big budget action movies involving shoestring plotlines and mediocre acting, accented by an amazing chase sequence brought to you in part by Ford. I'll probably see it twice, then go home and watch the 25th anniversary edition of the Transformers movie that I own.

Just wait until they reveal that the energon cube everyone is fighting over is actually an old Powerbook hidden at Jeff Goldblum's house somewhere in Berverly Hills. OH NOES WAS THAT A SPOILER? ;)


Nah, it's a Commodore 64 :D

Considering the absolutely absurd amount of product placement in Michael Bay's last movie (seriously, why would these clones living in an underground bunker need to wear Puma sneakers and drink Aquafina?), I can only imagine how he'll go to town with this one. He's obviously got some auto manufacturers lined up for branding.

Product placement was credited being pioneered by your bud Spielberg. Since he exec produce this well............. :)

Josh, isn't any movie good to you? Please list the one's you do.

Here are over 250 movie reviews I've written. I liked some of them. :)

http://www.mindspring.com/~zyber/reviews.html

Have at it.

Why do we even need "good" transformers to "protect us"? They should have just eliminated that part of the plot completely.

Yeah, the FX look cool, and I know it's more true to the original cartoons, but it seems it would have been more more interesting if it was sort of an alien war taking place on the planet with the transformers ignoring us and wreaking havok in the process.

Now that's what I call a movie.:D

The trailer looks great to me. Could be a really neat movie, as you guys say, both in the theater and at home.

However, I also agree that I hate the style of a different shot every 1/4-second, lets hope we dont get that this time.

However, I also agree that I hate the style of a different shot every 1/4-second, lets hope we dont get that this time.

I believe that was just done for the teaser trailer. I am certain when we watch the movie we will be shown full transformations, not just 1/4 second splices.

I believe that was just done for the teaser trailer. I am certain when we watch the movie we will be shown full transformations, not just 1/4 second splices.

He's referring to Michael Bay's shooting/editing style in general. He uses lots of cuts, especially during big action sequences; he cuts multiple times to about every conceivable angle about 5-10 seconds. He rarely lingers on a shot in his films, especially during action sequences. If you've seen Bad Boys II just count the number of cuts going on during on of the big action sequences; it will surprise you.

Fair enough, I thought he was referring to the trailer. I haven't seen Bad Boys II yet, but if Michael Bay has done that to his movies in the past, then I can see cause for concern.

Whoo,
This looks nutty. I may even see it in the theaters.

Seth

Holy smokes!!! My jaw is still on the carpet......... I am still a Michael Bay fan but since Armaggeddon, he hasn't been the same. He tried to copy James Cameron with Pearl Harbor. Bad Boys 2 had huge potential but it was too long, overblown, and the jokes were cheap. The Island was better. And since he split with Bruckheimer and started effing around with Texas Chainsaw, I thought he was done. This trailer just reeks of The Rock and Armaggedon and that's a good thing. Bay should stick with what he does best: a 2h testosterone rush!

Fair enough, I thought he was referring to the trailer. I haven't seen Bad Boys II yet, but if Michael Bay has done that to his movies in the past, then I can see cause for concern.

Make that for every movie he made, with a possible exception of Pearl Harbor.

Make that for every movie he made, with a possible exception of Pearl Harbor.

Based on his previous movies that I have seen I haven't been bothered by how they were filmed, but to each his own. :D

This movie looks like it will be fun. It should be great on HD DVD.

I'm sure it will be different from the 80's cartoon, but that's okay. If I wanted to see the 80's cartoons again, I'd watch the 80's cartoons!

For those of you that haven't seen them, there are 2 new 30 second trailers (http://media.movies.ign.com/media/568/568421/vids_1.html) on IGN.

All I can say is WOW, this movie is going to be GREAT :D

I have no idea who Shia LaBeouf and Travis Van Winkle are, but that trailer looks pretty damn promising....



Looks like he will be sidekicking in Indiana Jones IV too! It was the 'Bernie Mac' choice that had me scratching my head :?

I have no problem with the Bruckhiemer or Bay styles of filmaking so I may have to crawl my pasty white body outa the HT and see this one!

Guess you can't judge a movie by it's source material, but I have to laugh at the credit "Based on Hasbro's Transformer Action Figures."

Guess you can't judge a movie by it's source material, but I have to laugh at the credit "Based on Hasbro's Transformer Action Figures."

Especially since Hasbro's Transformers were based on Takara's Microman action figures. :D

There are 3 new pictures from the movie up at yahoo. If you click on 'Transformers slideshow' (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/transformers.html;_ylt=AhghAlma1Hp.kBdAMFk4ZfNfVXcA) you will see 3 new pictures from the movie, all I can say is the cgi for this movie looks like it will be ridiculous.

Looks more and more like exactly what I've been fearing, that the movie will be all about the humans with the "evil robots" secondary. There's basically nothing recognizable about any of the classic robot characters in that trailer. And being a Michael Bay movie, all of the transformation sequences will be quick-cut edited in an incoherent series of 1/4 second-long shots.

Was there really no one else in all of Hollywood available who could direct this instead?
Pretty much. The trailer actually looks kind of good but the film itself will be every bit as loud, dumb and tweaked as Armageddon, just wait. At least Afleck isn't in it.





Is he??

No but we got Josh Duhamel from tv's Vegas. you make the call..............

D'oh!!

For those of you that haven't seen them, there are 2 new 30 second trailers (http://media.movies.ign.com/media/568/568421/vids_1.html) on IGN.



good lord, this is looking incredible. supposed to be a new full trailer end of April/beginning of May. I have to admit, I'm counting the days until this movie comes out. I read an article about ILM saying the effects they're doing for this film are way beyond anything they've ever done, including all the star wars movies, etc..

Looks interesting. There is already a great Transformers movie...

Transformers: The Movie

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092106/

Even today i enjoy this movie. Great music, Orson Welles as the voice of Unicron, great stuff.

There will be a new trailer (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/transformers.html) debuting at about 1:10pm today :D

OMG that new trailer looks awsome, OMG

WOW what a feast of visuals

That was pretty cool. I'm a little worried that the humans shown will cheese it up (ala 'Bring It!'). Also I hope the cut down on the cliches (i.e start of romance, empowered hot chick with sass etc). If I remember the cartoon, the people in that generally got in trouble and did not save the day.

Also I hope the cut down on the cliches
This is a Michael Bay film, so you can count on cliches-a-plenty. I'm still taking my son to see it, though.

That trailer was jaw dropping. Those mid-air Starscream jet transformations are insane!

Trailer looks good; my son is excited.

(This movie brought to you by Chevrolet and the New Camaro.)

The Linkin Park intro sounded so good, has a nice build up to it. If I didn't know that a Transformers movie was coming out and I saw that trailer, I would have shat myself (it was so good).

Starscream's mid-air transformations are frickin amazing.

Also I hope the cut down on the cliches (empowered hot chick with sass etc

For some reason, I've never had a problem with this cliche :D

Definitely Starscream's transformations were hot, I also loved seeing Optimus take the karate pose near the end. Did anyone else notice Jazz getting his a** handed to him by Megatron? This movie is going to be great :D

Believe it or not, the scale of the fim in this trailer looks smaller than in the other. I don't know. I just wan't floored like I thought I'd be. Yes, the FX are amazing and flawless in 1080p, but I am not excited for some reason.

Then again, I have liked exactly ONE movie by Michael Bay (The Rock). Why would I like this one? Pearl Harbor was an abomination. Bad Boys II was scripted by a monkey on crack. The Island was just beyond laughable. Armageddon was stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid...

Anyway... :D

Believe it or not, the scale of the fim in this trailer looks smaller than in the other. I don't know. I just wan't floored like I thought I'd be. Yes, the FX are amazing and flawless in 1080p, but I am not excited for some reason.

Then again, I have liked exactly ONE movie by Michael Bay (The Rock). Why would I like this one? Pearl Harbor was an abomination. Bad Boys II was scripted by a monkey on crack. The Island was just beyond laughable. Armageddon was stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid...

Anyway... :D

I must have missed it, how did you feel about Armageddon again???? ;)

Um, I believe I said something about it not being very smart. :D

I don't know... Deep Impact made Armageddon looks pretty good ;)

Check out the second Transformer trailer...

http://media.movies.ign.com/media/568/568421/vids_1.html

Is there anyway to DL one of the high def trailers, save it to my PC and then burn it on a DVD? I'd like to watch this one on my plasma in HD :)

Is there anyway to DL one of the high def trailers, save it to my PC and then burn it on a DVD? I'd like to watch this one on my plasma in HD :)

If you mean save it as a file on your computer and burn it to a CD or DVD as data, sure. Just, um, do that.

If you mean you wanna convert nice high resolution H.264 to a video DVD, um, you could, but it would look awful and it sure wouldn't be "HD"...

Nah I wouldn't wanna ruin it :) Guess I would have to have a HTPC or hook my PC up to my plasma, correct? Too bad mine doesn't have a VGA input...

After seeing this extended, shown during the pre-show of the MTV movie awards, all I can say is I can't wait for this movie.......... :D

Optimus Vs. Bonecrusher (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0kZHybANP4k)

And for this one (http://autobotsrollout.com/) , just put any bogus email address when it asks for it. Click on exclusive clips

After seeing this extended, shown during the pre-show of the MTV movie awards, all I can say is I can't wait for this movie.......... :D

Optimus Vs. Bonecrusher (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0kZHybANP4k)


WTF, the robots are rollerblading? :eek:

Here (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=234_1180950954&p=1) is another exclusive clip, has a few scenes not seen before. Also, this website (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=8437) has just about everything that has been released.

Enjoy :)

Microsecond-long cuts, terrible dialogue, obnoxious music... Yup, it's a Michael Bay film allright. :(

Know what bothers me? Optimus is a Peterbilt, not a Mack truck.

I dont even think this is a spoiler but..

In the trailer, "bumblebee" blows out the other car's glass but the humans retain their bionic hearing.

I thought they were promising to keep things to proper scale? Why is it that Optimus Prime, who supposedly transforms from a tractor trailer state, looks about twice the size of that other truck in the shot?

http://www.mindspring.com/~lizap/trans.jpg

I dunno about the rest of the film, but in that pic you show, it looks like he is closer to the "camera" therefore he just appears larger.

I dunno about the rest of the film, but in that pic you show, it looks like he is closer to the "camera" therefore he just appears larger.

That was the only frame I was able to grab with a reasonably clear image, but in the shot he moves from behind the truck and passes it. The truck looks tiny in comparison. The following shot of the two robots falling off an overpass also looks way out of scale.

That was the only frame I was able to grab with a reasonably clear image, but in the shot he moves from behind the truck and passes it. The truck looks tiny in comparison. The following shot of the two robots falling off an overpass also looks way out of scale.

Gotcha. Oh well. Maybe one of the Transformers takes on the role of a garbage truck and helps the others by compacting them. :)

I thought they were promising to keep things to proper scale?

Your "evidence" taken aside, no, actually you're in error. Bay never said any such thing. There was mention of keeping things "more" realistic in terms of scale, which made fanboys all over the world pop their zits in whining dismay, but nobody ever said it was supposed to be perfect.

Speaking of Bay, did anyone happen to catch him as a judge in "On the Lot" the other day? This Zap2It blog post has a pretty hilarious recap of his appearance:

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2007/06/week_two_of_on_.html

"Guest judge Michael Bay telling the guy that he'd made a two-minute story into a three-minute film and that it felt padded. That's a criticism from a filmmaker who thought that there was sufficient narrative in Bad Boys 2 to demand a 147-minute running time."

"Michael Bay says that the concept was a bit of a retread and that he's seen the idea before. That's a criticism from the man whose next film is based on a cartoon based on a toy line."

"Michael Bay calls it a "groaner" and says people were laughing at her, not with her. That's a criticism from the man who thought he was making a genuinely romantic moment when he had Ben Affleck trot animal crackers across Liv Tyler's chest in Armageddon."

:D

Does anyone know what the rating will be? My nine year son is a big fan.

Looks like they're targeting PG-13.

I think Michael Bay is perfect for this project. I don't want a story, I don't want a plot, I don't want characters. All I want is to see transformers driving, transforming and fighting. They'll be badass and oozing style with no substance.

Who'ld be foolish enough to expect anything more from a concept of cars turning into robots?

Bring it on.

Robots in disquise. That is all I want. Actually, it would be cool if Soundwave was in it. Not for the stupid tapes that transformed into pterodactyls or panthers or whatever. Just his VOICE. Man I loved Saturday mornings when I was a kid. Transformers ruled the TV back then.

After seeing this extended, shown during the pre-show of the MTV movie awards, all I can say is I can't wait for this movie..........

Optimus Vs. Bonecrusher

OMG..........that was WICKED!

I just want to see Deceptions blowing the crap out of stuff and Optimus Prime beating them down, as long as they have that, I could care less if the size scale is realistic, who is dircting, etc. Also wouldn't hurt to throw in the all G1 transforming sound effects and some musical riffs from the old series, they do that, then I am in Transfan heaven.

I just want to see Deceptions blowing the crap out of stuff and Optimus Prime beating them down, as long as they have that, I could care less if the size scale is realistic, who is dircting, etc. Also wouldn't hurt to throw in the all G1 transforming sound effects and some musical riffs from the old series, they do that, then I am in Transfan heaven.

From what I have heard you will get ALL of your wishes :D

Then heaven it is.

Just talked to someone who saw it and he said it was badly scripted at times, quite dumb for the most part, but that it is so filled with kinetic energy and absolute massive @ss kicking on a HUGE scale that you just don't care. He compared it to ID4, which means it should be fun the first time around, but not for repeat viewing, other than watching certain action scenes.

This person HATED every Bay film other than THE ROCK, by the way. Just like me. :)

yes that definately fits ID4...terrible script but fun...for one viewing.

I don't know much about Bay, but when he termed The Island a summer popcorn-movie, that instantly made me not want to see it. The Transformers looks like it may fit the bill, though. When the toys first came out, I was too old for them.....I still may catch this movie anyway.

BTW, I thought The Rock had plenty of entertainment, but a few unbelieveable moments as well.

i hope the sound design is top notch with massive tight bass, deep bass and cruching mediums and highs. a blasting sound mix. i'd hate to see massive scenes with no bass :D

THIS could be THE next demo disc indeed once it's on blu ray/hd dvd (Paramount ?)

I remember an interview of Michael Bay in Les Annes Laser, famous French home theater-dvd-HD magazine where he talks about his father in law or adoping father (?), i think it's Friedkin, but he also is asked what he likes in movies: his reply was: "I just love to destroy things, blast everything". :D ..... he sure is a master at it.

Just talked to someone who saw it and he said it was badly scripted at times, quite dumb for the most part, but that it is so filled with kinetic energy and absolute massive @ss kicking on a HUGE scale that you just don't care. He compared it to ID4, which means it should be fun the first time around, but not for repeat viewing, other than watching certain action scenes.

This person HATED every Bay film other than THE ROCK, by the way. Just like me. :)
That sounds familiar. I'm now a bit more optimistic going into the movie (I am required to take my son as he's a Transformers fanatic).

I was starting to get concerned with how much the product placement was going to bug me during the movie, as the trailers look like they could almost be a GM commercial. But then I remembered that the cartoon was just as much a commercial for the toys. Now, if Bay had skills other than making stuff Blow'd Up (http://www.youtube.com/?v=td4VEGiIQmk), he could've used product placement as a point of ironic subtext instead of a hammer to beat his audience over the head.

Of course I'm assuming, and if Bay handles it deftly, I'll gladly come back to this thread and eat crow. :)

What are you all looking for in this movie? stop with the nick picking....my word have any of you ever seen the orginal G1 show? your brain would just shut down and piss all over itself if you tried to nick pick it. I've been a fan since I was 5....and I cant believe all the complaints I've already read about everything. I think everything I've seen so far looks fantastic and I love how everything looks because it looks real. I can't believe the effects they are using. Who would have thought that cgi would look so good that they could make a transformer's movie....that just boggles my mind. This movie is about transformers, its mindless fun action and a good time. If you expect anything else then you are going to be dissapponited and you really dont know anything about transformers.

There's mindless action fun, and then there are Michael Bay movies, which tend to be so aggressively stupid that they insult the audience for watching them.

I wouldn't mind The Transformers being mindless action fun, but I do mind it being a Michael Bay movie.

What are you all looking for in this movie?
...
If you expect anything else then you are going to be dissapponited and you really dont know anything about transformers.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm looking for a mindless summer action movie with my transformer-crazy son.

I do not want a summer action movie BROUGHT TO YOU BY GENERAL MOTORS (shouting courtesy of Bay's directorial 'style').

I don't mind foils or two-dimensional characters, but I don't want them so mind-numbingly stupidly stereotyped that I'm muttering expletives under my breath.

I do not want deus ex machina as a substitution for a real script.

And I do not want seizure-inducing editing.

Expecting anything more shows you really don't know anything about Michael Bay.

What are you all looking for in this movie? stop with the nick picking....my word have any of you ever seen the orginal G1 show? your brain would just shut down and piss all over itself if you tried to nick pick it. I've been a fan since I was 5....and I cant believe all the complaints I've already read about everything. I think everything I've seen so far looks fantastic and I love how everything looks because it looks real. I can't believe the effects they are using. Who would have thought that cgi would look so good that they could make a transformer's movie....that just boggles my mind.If one more person calls a made-up creature or machine real-looking, I'll scream. It's a bit like those who called the Hulk movie fake-looking. I didn't know he actually exists. :rolleyes: :p

There's mindless action fun, and then there are Michael Bay movies, which tend to be so aggressively stupid that they insult the audience for watching them.

I wouldn't mind The Transformers being mindless action fun, but I do mind it being a Michael Bay movie.
Bu bu but can't people change?
Perhaps Mr. Bay has achieved some level of competence by now...after all, he is getting alot of experience with his on-the-job training... :D

If one more person calls a made-up creature or machine real-looking, I'll scream. It's a bit like those who called the Hulk movie fake-looking. I didn't know he actually exists. :rolleyes: :p
LOL!
FWIW, I liked the way Hulk looked....although, granted, he didn't look at all like Bill Bixby... :D

do you really not understand what i meant by real looking? come on dude dont take it out of context. It means it looks real in a sense that you can be pulled into the story and not sit ther and say" that looks so fake" for the entire 2 hours. And no I honestly dont know anything about Bay that much. I dont pay too much attention to all that to be honest I like the movie or I dont, it has nothing to do with the people behide it. But thank you for giving me the list of things that i dont know about bay that you care so much about....if you dont really know anything about transformers then why do you care about it so much? why dont you watch it before freaking out on the people making the movie. If anyone had told me 5 years ago that they were going to make a live action big budget summer transformers movie i would have laughed...as a fan I'm extatic that this is even being done.

If one more person calls a made-up creature or machine real-looking, I'll scream. It's a bit like those who called the Hulk movie fake-looking. I didn't know he actually exists. :rolleyes: :p

Bzzzzzzz- I call BS :D :D
Movies are about suspension of disbelief and creating a sense of plausibility. When I watch a movie like Babe I know animals don't talk, but if they DID talk that's how they would look. When I watch LOTR I say, yep- that's a Balrog alright. Doesn't exist, but the movie gave me a sense that they found one and filmed it. The Hulk- nope. Transformers are a thing one could easily imagine as real- they're based on real world mechanical stuff like trucks, just assembled differently and moving. So to have them look unreal in a movie with this budget is a major screw-up.

if you dont really know anything about transformers then why do you care about it so much? why dont you watch it before freaking out on the people making the movie.
This is AVS; we talk about movies (and related) in this forum. It's what we do; we can be passionate about film.

I didn't know that calling a hack like Bay a hack constituted "freaking out."

Although I was too old for them the first time around, I've had to learn a lot about Transformers because of my son.

Question: As an extatic fan, does it bother you that Megatron is not going to transform?

Megatron does transform, only he doesn't adapt to an earth vehicle, he maintains his alien 'ship' form, for whatever that's worth. guess he doesn't feel the need to hide.

anyway, i'm posting to link to this, which is a higher quality avi file from that MTV show (http://www.dcbowden.com/transfers/TF_MTV_clip.avi) of the Bonecrusher skating clip smashing into Optimus so you can see what's going on; his robot mode puts wheels under his feet so he can effectively skate, which I though was a cool design, he literally hockey-checks that bus in half...

also, this clip looks incongruent, the cut to them falling off the bridge is clearly later in this battle as they're on a grounded freeway in the previous shot. looks awesome anyway.

do you really not understand what i meant by real looking? come on dude dont take it out of context. It means it looks real in a sense that you can be pulled into the story and not sit ther and say" that looks so fake" for the entire 2 hours. And no I honestly dont know anything about Bay that much. I dont pay too much attention to all that to be honest I like the movie or I dont, it has nothing to do with the people behide it. But thank you for giving me the list of things that i dont know about bay that you care so much about....if you dont really know anything about transformers then why do you care about it so much? why dont you watch it before freaking out on the people making the movie. If anyone had told me 5 years ago that they were going to make a live action big budget summer transformers movie i would have laughed...as a fan I'm extatic that this is even being done.Oh, lighten up....:)....what I mean is, outside of his movies, I don't know much about Micheal Bay. I'm quite familiar with The Transformers, though I've never played with the toys. I'll still go and see this movie.

There's nothing wrong with a mindless action-movie once in a while, but all of Bay's movies seem to be mindless. At least the ones I've seen. Oh, BTW Fred, pigs can talk....and dinosaurs actually looked just like they do in Jurassic Park. :rolleyes: :D

Michael Bay is the greatest action director of our time.

Michael Bay is the greatest action director of our time.
Your time, not mine.;)

Well yes he does transform but like the other guy said into a ship. Yeah I do think thats kind of lame but I know they cant do the gun casue of the toy....oh well, hopefully that turns out. One thing that does have me worried are the voices though. That could make or break a lot of it for me......it does worry me after that horrible job they did with venom in sm3. What were they thinking? He started talking and I laughed under my breath at how stupid that came off. I think the way they talk and show their emotions through the voices and their faces would be a very challenging thing to do and hopefully they do it right.

Noy any time, DaveFi.

Michael Bay is the greatest action director of our time.

Pretty close. I like James Cameron better. Bay just oozes style and it's so delicious, like McDonald's. Show me a bunch of action scenes without me knowing who the directors are, and I bet I can pick out Bay's work. I'm lovin' it.

Bay just oozes style and it's so delicious, like McDonald's.
Fast Food Nation or Super Size Me?

Michael Bay can make someone getting off a toilet seat look epic.

Oh, and James Cameron is simply the greatest director period.

For whatever reason, Australia got the first premiere of the movie earlier in the week. For those that are interested here is a spoiler free (http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showthread.php?t=11196) review of the movie.

For those that don't want to read it, it is very positive, here is a rundown:

Transformers screen time: 9/10
Action 9/10
CGI 10/10
Humor 6/10
Human characters:7/10
Storyline:8/10
Dialogue:8/10
G1 references:8/10
Transformer movie:8/10

Also, he stated that for those that are worried that we have seen too much from either the trailers or tv spots, the reviewer stated 'You haven't seen nothin yet' :D

I just had a chance to watch the movie at an Private Screening in NYC...

I am no professional movie reviewer, however I am almost never easily wowed by Hollywood shenanigans. This movie was absolutely stunning. I enjoyed every moment of it... I too was very worried about how the voices would be handled... allow me to say, that it was incredible.

& as previously stated, the trailers show you nothing.

Thats my bit.

OMG, I don't think I have ever been this excited for a movie. Honestly.

Jesus I can't wait to see this movie!

Pretty close. I like James Cameron better. Bay just oozes style and it's so delicious, like McDonald's. Show me a bunch of action scenes without me knowing who the directors are, and I bet I can pick out Bay's work. I'm lovin' it.

You can pick out Bay's action scenes because his will be the ones incoherently edited into a seizure-inducing string of half-second shots.

I just had a chance to watch the movie at an Private Screening in NYC...

I am no professional movie reviewer, however I am almost never easily wowed by Hollywood shenanigans. This movie was absolutely stunning. I enjoyed every moment of it... I too was very worried about how the voices would be handled... allow me to say, that it was incredible.

& as previously stated, the trailers show you nothing.

Thats my bit.

How was Weaving as Megatron?

How was Weaving as Megatron?
I'll preface by saying that honestly, I was VERY disappointed that they would not be using the original voice for Megatron and although Hugo was pretty fitting as Agent Smith, I just wasnt expecting much as Megatron. Megatron's voice is one of the main reasons I fell in love with Transformers in the first place... (among other reasons, like Prime's voice)...

Well.... Hugo was excellent as Megatron. He had every bit as much ferocity as you would come to expect from the leader of the Decepticons.

I did find flaws in the movie because I was looking for them... however they were so small that I would have been doing myself a massive disservice to even consider them.

Michael Bay can make someone getting off a toilet seat look epic.Herein lies the problem. He (amongst others) is unwittingly destroying moviemaking by upping the ante each time. Then expectations get set too high, and diminishing returns become inevitable. As I mentioned, a little mindless candy is fine once in a while, but too much and the brain turns to mush.

Cameron is a good writer and director; please don't mention his name with the other guy's in the same sentence.

So, in other words, Michael Bay's movies are just too good. Interesting argument.

Regular MB basher here. But I have to admit...I'm getting sucked into the marketing on this one. It just looks good to me. But I've been burnt badly by Bay before (at least six times, I think), including my choice for worst movie ever. But I just...can't...help...it...the commercials are really cool.

God help me.

I just had a chance to watch the movie at an Private Screening in NYC...

I am no professional movie reviewer, however I am almost never easily wowed by Hollywood shenanigans. This movie was absolutely stunning. I enjoyed every moment of it... I too was very worried about how the voices would be handled... allow me to say, that it was incredible.

& as previously stated, the trailers show you nothing.

Thats my bit.

Was the movie at least 2 hours long? What was the overall crowd reaction during the screening?

I cannot recall the exact length of the movie but it began at about 2:13pm and we walked out of the theater at around 4:40, I'd say.

The movie is just over 2 hours or maybe a bit more but again, I cannot really recall that as it was one busy day for me overall.

I watched the movie with representatives from Dreamworks, AMC Theater, United Artists, Loews and other Theater industry people so it was more of a mature crowd.... they were screening the movie to determine how many theaters they wanted to showcase it in, respectively.

Many of the guys were mid 40's to late 50's. I would comfortably say I was the youngest guy there (27).

There was a standing ovation when it ended. I participated (but did not initiate it :p ).

God help me.

Don't fight it. They have guys who know what you want before you do. Bay got burnt on The Island because the marketing was apparently poor. He's back with a vengeance cuz he won't let that happen twice in a row.

Bay got burnt on The Island because the marketing was apparently poor.
:rolleyes:
A perfect marketing plan couldn't have saved that craptacular dreck.

the runtime is 135 minutes. and it's interesting that even the newest tv spot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcmywtsnxJI) still says not yet rated and there's no rating listing on imdb yet. i've believe i've read that it's pg-13, though, at least that's their target rating.

i'm turning 30 on july 5th so this movie will be a great present! even my wife can't wait, she played with the toys as a kid just like i did (but we didn't have tv so never saw the show) :cool:

I cannot recall the exact length of the movie but it began at about 2:13pm and we walked out of the theater at around 4:40, I'd say.

The movie is just over 2 hours or maybe a bit more but again, I cannot really recall that as it was one busy day for me overall.

I watched the movie with representatives from Dreamworks, AMC Theater, United Artists, Loews and other Theater industry people so it was more of a mature crowd.... they were screening the movie to determine how many theaters they wanted to showcase it in, respectively.

Many of the guys were mid 40's to late 50's. I would comfortably say I was the youngest guy there (27).

There was a standing ovation when it ended. I participated (but did not initiate it :p ).

A standing ovation is a GOOD thing :D

For those that are interested, IGN has some new and some old TV clips from the movie, there were 3 alone that I hadn't seen before.

Enjoy (http://media.movies.ign.com/media/568/568421/vids_1.html)

i just watched the G1 movie. I saw it when i was 10, so I remembered nothing. Man, it was bad. The dialogue is so laughable. Grimlock is such a bonehead. The story is so weak. It was a trip down memory lane to see many of the characters so that was great. Optimus Prime is such a great leader and I'm pumped to watch Bay's version.

I am almost finished reading the book. Some have panned TF2007 because it is a human story, whereas G1 was robot-centric. I'm glad Bay took a different approach. I wasn't crazy about the robot designs at first, esp the Decepticons, but G1 looks so dated. The book reminds me of T2: a kid, two robot sides, one side determined to kill, the other to protect. All of Bay's testosterone: fast cars, big trucks, guns, helicopters, carriers, and fighter jets won't mean a thing unless we care for the characters. Sam's friendship with Bumblebee is evident in the final trailer when we see Bumblebee getting hurt. If that's any indication, we're gonna have a good time. It's gonna be bayhem baby!

Noy any time, DaveFi.

I am inclined to agree with you.

From IMDB:

Director:
2012: The War for Souls (2010) (pre-production)
Prince of Persia: Sands of Time (2009) (pre-production)

Transformers (2007)
The Island (2005)
The Lionel Richie Collection (2003) (V) (video "Do It to Me")
Bad Boys II (2003)
... aka Good Cops: Bad Boys II (Malaysia: English title)
Pearl Harbor (2001)
... aka Pearl Harbour (UK: promotional title)
Armageddon (1998/I)
The Rock (1996)
Bad Boys (1995)
Shadows and Light: From a Different View (1992) (V)
Great White: My... My... My... the Video Collection (1991) (V) (video "Call It Rock N' Roll")
Playboy Video Centerfold: Kerri Kendall (1990) (V)



What's so great here? :confused:

Sam's friendship with Bumblebee is evident in the final trailer when we see Bumblebee getting hurt. If that's any indication, we're gonna have a good time. It's gonna be bayhem baby!


I agree that Shia looks like he'll make a great Sam from what we've seen so far. He can act well enough and is very into the material.

For whatever reason, Australia got the first premiere of the movie earlier in the week. For those that are interested here is a spoiler free (http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showthread.php?t=11196) review of the movie.

For those that don't want to read it, it is very positive, here is a rundown:

Transformers screen time: 9/10
Action 9/10
CGI 10/10
Humor 6/10
Human characters:7/10
Storyline:8/10
Dialogue:8/10
G1 references:8/10
Transformer movie:8/10

Also, he stated that for those that are worried that we have seen too much from either the trailers or tv spots, the reviewer stated 'You haven't seen nothin yet' :D


That qualifies as a "review"? Hot damn! :D

From the review.. "as there were just too many cliches"

I guess that is to be expected :(

It's gonna be bayhem baby! :rolleyes: This is what I'm afraid of. I've been bay'd once too many times before. Make that five times.

:rolleyes: This is what I'm afraid of. I've been bay'd once too many times before. Make that five times.

Same here, BUT at least a couple of your Bay attacks featured Ben Affleck, never have they included giant fighting transforming robots-- a huge upgrade.

Same here, BUT at least a couple of your Bay attacks featured Ben Affleck, never have they included giant fighting transforming robots-- a huge upgrade.

I'm pretty sure Ben Affleck is a robot. ;)

I'm pretty sure Ben Affleck is a robot. ;)Actually, if you caught a certain South Park episode, you will know that Ben is the son of two people with a certain "torsonic polarity syndrome":D.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/Cartman_and_the_Thompsons.jpg

New TV spot here (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=21223).

saw it yesterday at Cinemaexpo in Amsterdam with Katzenberg, Seinfeld (Bee movie, very funny). also watch out for KUNG FU PENDA, very funny
www.cinemaexpo.com

image: CHRISTIE 3DLP 2K, image size about 17meters i'd guess
super picture, sharp, yet often the usual Bay touch (blown out whites, oversaturated colors)
sound: PMC discrete was AMAZING !
the movie: it kicks ass ! there's humour at times and Shea is very good, this guy is asked everywhere. there's the blond and the brunette, so for all tastes :)
the cars oh oh !! the robots oh oh ! the choppers, the planes, the tanks, the big trucks you got it all. weapons galore, and again amazing sound. but this was PCM so dont expect as good in a commercial theater with a Dolby 380k....

the public was very communicative, lots of wow, yeepee, applauds, laughs, and wow again.
age: mostly 30-60 (this is a show for the movie industry)
so if that public loved it so will the 8-24

amazing CGI, extremely well done. the belief factor is huge because the robots feel there.

can"t wait for the blu ray edition in PCM on a pro sound system (watch out baby systems :D )

this movie deserves $350,000,000 at the US box office

saw it yesterday at Cinemaexpo in Amsterdam with Katzenberg, Seinfeld (Bee movie, very funny). also watch out for KUNG FU PENDA, very funny
www.cinemaexpo.com

image: CHRISTIE 3DLP 2K, image size about 17meters i'd guess
super picture, sharp, yet often the usual Bay touch (blown out whites, oversaturated colors)
sound: PMC discrete was AMAZING !
the movie: it kicks ass ! there's humour at times and Shea is very good, this guy is asked everywhere. there's the blond and the brunette, so for all tastes :)
the cars oh oh !! the robots oh oh ! the choppers, the planes, the tanks, the big trucks you got it all. weapons galore, and again amazing sound. but this was PCM so dont expect as good in a commercial theater with a Dolby 380k....

the public was very communicative, lots of wow, yeepee, applauds, laughs, and wow again.
age: mostly 30-60 (this is a show for the movie industry)
so if that public loved it so will the 8-24

amazing CGI, extremely well done. the belief factor is huge because the robots feel there.

can"t wait for the blu ray edition in PCM on a pro sound system (watch out baby systems :D )

this movie deserves $350,000,000 at the US box office

Did the bass kick a** as expected?

sure did ! waves of it and tight bass too. center channel not good because of no THX baffling wall behind (it's an auditorium first) and no proper EQ (you could often hear a 60-200hz mode).
no distorsion, plenty of headroom (i guess quite a few 18" gunners and twin or quadruple 15" for the LCR

i never felt a bass missing from a scene where you'd expect bass and that tells a lot :)

Thanks :D

Here in Miami in selected Theaters I will be able to see the Transformers on July 2nd. I can not wait for this any longer. :D

It is actually being shown in some theaters on July 2nd at 8pm throughout the country.

Shows seem to start at 8 PM on July 2nd.

Man, it's going to be packed. I want a 10 AM show.

Take the final trailer x 20. That's basically Transformers. Try to

a) see it in a theater that has a good sound system and a good projector. If possible, go with digital cinema presentation.

b) don't sit one picture height from the screen. 1.5-2 is better, unless the screen is small. You'd get very dizzy when the action sequences start.

Full blog review coming soon.


fuad

The US premiere is tonight in LA so we should start getting some reviews soon.

The last trailer (the best one of the two) x20??? :eek: :eek: :eek: Now I really can't wait.

Will your blog contain spoilers?

HBO has a first look tonight at 8:30pm EST for those interested.

Veri nice pics.

Will your blog contain spoilers? No spoilers than what you can see in the trailers. I have to put at least the basic premise of the movies after all. I put veiled hints but nothing that would give away the scenes until you go read the review again.

My Die Hard 4.0 review. (http://mymovienews.blogspot.com/2007/06/die-hard-40.html) Just for comparison.


fuad

Michael Bay is the greatest action director of our time.


*loads gun....aims at forehead...*

Saw it today , blew me away, made me feel like a kid again. That is all.

You know what makes me giddy?

Just seeing the Autobots drive along side each other, transforming, working as a team, etc.

I Cant wait til Tuesday. I don't care if It doesn't have a plot, I don't care if Michael bay made it, And I don't care it it has a ton of stereotype cookie cutout characters. And most of all I don't care if I get spleen and liver damage from the LFE and all my teeth fall out from all the sugar and junk food I'm going to eat either because I may go to the theater once a year and I plan to rot my brain out for once and I don't care!

:D

Go enjoy yourselves because there's not alot of things in life that bring real joy!

Flan

http://www.bk.com/transformers/index.html

amazing score

i think from the scene where an helicopter approaches. very atmospheric and powerful. but the images and the blasts were so amazing it was hard to pay attention to the score.
the CD soundtrack should therefore be a must-have
Jablonski scoring, a disciple of Zimmer

TRANSFORMERS is a movie that WILL make many want to upgrade BIG their home theater system....


here's a hint.... :)
http://www.deagel.com/library1/medium/m02006111900054.jpg

well there's also a MASSIVE scene with a ...... argh... i'd spoil. :D if a include the photo here.
but i tell you guys: you will see in TRANSFORMERS some of the best attack aircrafts the US military have (and i'm not talking of the usual fighter F15 jets).
aircrafts never shown i think in a movie (while they do exist in the military for 25years)

there are military scenes that will BLOW BLAST WOW you like never before. it feels extremely real because it does happen as cgi is only a micro part of the scene.
this movie merits $400M at the box office.

Stop it guys, I can't wait any longer for Tuesday to get here!!! :D

Damn it.. I can't wait....... This is the one movie that I cannot wait to see!!!!!

DAMN....

I saw this movie about (3) weeks ago and I havent really been able to talk with anyone about it. I've been sitting on the emotions of the movie since I seen it and I dont know if its a good thing or not. The movie is already "old" to me but to see you guys so amped for it, makes me feel sooo left out. I want to feel what you feel soooo badly. Now it's almost like seeing it too early was more of a curse than a gift.

Even though I am planning to see it again on opening day.... I still wish I hadnt seen it already. Man, you guys are in for a treat!

Hopefully next week when we all see it and give our impressions, we all remember that everyone hasn't seen it so please if you must include spoilers, use spoiler tags. Thankfully no one has let anything slip yet ;)

tatoo: where did you see it so early ? i saw it at cinemaexpo in Amsterdam Monday 25th
and plan to see twice more once it's released then it's 3months at least before we see the blu ray edition (perhaps by that time HD dvd will have ceased)

Saw it at the E-Walk theater in NYC.... on the 13th of June at approx. 2PM.

Private screening.... roughly 30 people in total. I didnt know I was going to see the movie until 11am the same day... and I was stuck in a 2hr meeting before the movie. I was forced into seeing the movie I had been waiting to see for what feels like my entire life.

To nail the coffin, I was in a monkey suit with a tie on... and I had to be "professional" the whole duration of the film, due to the particular crowd. It was certainly not the way I had intended to see TRANSFORMERS... but I enjoyed it none the less. :D

(perhaps by that time HD dvd will have ceased)
Leave the Blu-ray fanboism in the Blu-ray forum. :rolleyes:

YaY! Got my ticket to the Midnight showing at the Arclight in L.A. I bet you $100 someone will be dressed like a Transformer.

I will have a flask of Patron Silver, ready for a good time.

As the random disposable human says, "BRING IT!"

Has anyone that seen it not liked it yet? Surprisingly I haven't read anything bad from people that have seen it, not that I am complaining ;)

Just saw the movie last night at an advanced screening. It was a blast. The crowd was really into it (somewhat too much with the hooting and hollering). I'll definitely be seeing it again just to see what I missed the first time. It had the typical Bay film editing. The transforming "on the fly" was pretty cool. There was ample amounts of 'cheesiness' in the script, but the overall movie was enertaining.

I'll be seeing DIE HARD 4 Sunday, despite my misgivings. I hope to see Transformers the Sunday after. Wish I could see both sooner.

I caught an advanced screening yesterday. This movie was everything it should have been - 2 hours of amazing action, massive destruction, and eye-candy overload. It definitely lived up to its hype. The biggest surprise was that the non-robot stuff was actually pretty well done also. I'll be seeing this movie at least 2 more times in the theater. Not only are the visuals jaw-dropping, but the sound in this movie is killer! In the screening I was at, people were shouting, laughing, wincing, cheering, it was crazy. Easily the best "popcorn" movie of the year. Can't wait to get this at home on HD!

http://bp3.blogger.com/_sq04-WzIAkI/RoaDb3rIVXI/AAAAAAAAAJs/Hk7q-PqymGA/s400/Transformers+01.png
Here's my review blog on Transformers. (http://mymovienews.blogspot.com/2007/06/transformers.html)

Apart from what you can see in the trailers, it's spoiler free.


fuad

Nice review, based on what has been released so far, do you consider this the best of the bunch? Spoiler free, I like that :D

Nice review, based on what has been released so far, do you consider this the best of the bunch? Spoiler free, I like that :D You mean summer action movies? Yes, it is.

But Die Hard 4.0 comes very very close because the action sequences are done by a human - easier to relate to. It is improbable that we get a chance to be McClane but it is impossible for us to be Optimus Prime. :cool:

Harry Potter is next but I doubt the spectacled one will match McClane and Transformers, even if he has a 10" wand.


fuad

the war scenes in the desert are amazing, extremely impressive.
the sound as you insist in your review indeed is the new reference. Bay's sound is always first rate (pearl harbor, the island, bad boys 2).
jeez the cgi are miles away from Independance day etc. the levelof of realism/integration here is absolutely stunning.

someone should go ahead and start an official review thread for this movie. I think we're going on thursday, nice 30th birthday present :)

Awesome movie, now its time to speculate on who is in part 2, hopefully they follow the gen 1 movie and have Megatron tranformed into Galvertron, so we can watch him go off the deep end and get psycotic on the Autobots.

my primary want-to-see in a sequel would be a combiner group. Devastator? um, yes please. :eek:

Are maybe Predaking

Can we at least wait a full week or 2 to talk about who should and shouldn't be in any sequels? This way there is no chance of giving away any spoilers as far as who may or may not have died in the movie. Or, create a thread specifically about that so anyone who reads it knows what they are getting themselves into.

Thanks

Great fun!

It's corny, lame, retarded, dumb, and bad.

It's also funny, fun, exciting, and all around kick-ass.

It will be the highest-grossing movie of 2007.

Getting mixed reviews on Rottentomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_movie/) . 60% right now.

that's much higher than what I thought it would get...

Getting mixed reviews on Rottentomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_movie/) . 60% right now.
I have to say that after reading through many of those reviews, it seems that the majority of the "Negative" reviews are obviously Michael Bay haters.

Not to discredit their ability to accurately review a movie... but sometimes people go into things looking for flaws. With the specific reason to not like it... no matter what.

Well, I'll go see it, I'll just wait to be able to use a ticket. $7.75 fo a matinee is getting out of my range.

$6 for non-expiration tickets on eBay is pretty cool. Only thing is you have to wait 2-weeks before they accept them on a new movie.

I have to say that after reading through many of those reviews, it seems that the majority of the "Negative" reviews are obviously Michael Bay haters.

Not to discredit their ability to accurately review a movie... but sometimes people go into things looking for flaws. With the specific reason to not like it... no matter what.

Agreed, one review I saw yesterday actually said that the movie had too much CGI . I guess the reviewer expected that the vehicles were actually going to transform as opposed to them using CGI to create the robots. :rolleyes:

What's more surprising is that the reviewer is actually a name that most people would know.

saw the film last night. I managed to score some tickets, and walked into a packed theater almost an hour before show time.

this is an "event" movie. The crowd was ecstatic, and I haven't seen this kind of enthusiasm since Star Wars Episode 1 where people were energized, clapping and screaming when the lights went down (however I will never forget the collective "what the hell was that" at the end of the first star wars movie either).

This is a pretty good movie. Its the popcorn movie without a doubt. There are flaws, both in characters and the type of humor displayed, and these are simply not the autobots and decepticons you remember. Though, are still fun to watch and the transforming sequences are dazzling. For those of us with home theaters, this will be your next demo DVD (or blue-ray or whatever) for sure. I'm already excited about adding it to my collection.

A word of caution: Do not sit close to the screen. the camera moves and robots zipping past can be nausea inducing. There were times I couldn't even tell who was who. . . there was so much carnage. I'm not going to review this film here, but I think a majority of folks will enjoy it, and there are some beautiful shots of these robots and its the kind of movie you need to see in the local cinema, then soak it up when it comes to yours. ;)

I saw it last night and thought it was excellent. Keep in mind I was five in 1984 when they came out and have found memories of the Gen.1 Transformers. While they aren't the exact same Transformers the 1984 ones were they are about as good as you could get for a live action movie. The CGI work is excellent and the movie is paced very well. I had no idea it was 2 1/2 hrs because it just kept moving. It's pretty much the perfect summer movie that has something for just about everyone with cars, hot women, hot guys, comedy, action, great cgi, good story, etc.

Getting mixed reviews on Rottentomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_movie/) . 60% right now.

LOL, Just yesterday it was at 88%.....I think some of the Bay haters just had to chime in. I swear some of these reviewers expect the 3rd coming of Christ, or out of body experience when they go to a movie. The rest of us just want to escape and have fun for 2 hours :rolleyes:

Flan

box office report TYler durden predicts $150M from July 3 to July 8

it merits $300M BO in the US imho, it's really that much bang for the bucks
explosions are not cgi btw :) Bay loves to destroy for real and the US army sure helped !

this will be a major hit on DVD and HD.

LOL, Just yesterday it was at 88%.....I think some of the Bay haters just had to chime in. I swear some of these reviewers expect the 3rd coming of Christ, or out of body experience when they go to a movie. The rest of us just want to escape and have fun for 2 hours :rolleyes:

Flan


lol !! but so true. i hope the religious ultra conservatists antidarwinists won't pollute too much the net regarding TRANSFORMERS

this movie is a thrilling ride!

saw the film last night. I managed to score some tickets, and walked into a packed theater almost an hour before show time.

this is an "event" movie. The crowd was ecstatic, and I haven't seen this kind of enthusiasm since Star Wars Episode 1 where people were energized, clapping and screaming when the lights went down (however I will never forget the collective "what the hell was that" at the end of the first star wars movie either).

This is a pretty good movie. Its the popcorn movie without a doubt. There are flaws, both in characters and the type of humor displayed, and these are simply not the autobots and decepticons you remember. Though, are still fun to watch and the transforming sequences are dazzling. For those of us with home theaters, this will be your next demo DVD (or blue-ray or whatever) for sure. I'm already excited about adding it to my collection.

A word of caution: Do not sit close to the screen. the camera moves and robots zipping past can be nausea inducing. There were times I couldn't even tell who was who. . . there was so much carnage. I'm not going to review this film here, but I think a majority of folks will enjoy it, and there are some beautiful shots of these robots and its the kind of movie you need to see in the local cinema, then soak it up when it comes to yours. ;)


i agree, beter sit at at mid or 2/3 theater from the screen. i always also prefer to dominate the screen in high raised stadium theaters (bass are better there too as you sit closer to the back wall). and you dont miss a thing then.

don't you love the attacks in the desert ? oh my. kuddos to the spectre ! (won't say more).

LOL, Just yesterday it was at 88%.....I think some of the Bay haters just had to chime in. I swear some of these reviewers expect the 3rd coming of Christ, or out of body experience when they go to a movie. The rest of us just want to escape and have fun for 2 hours :rolleyes:

Flan
YUP.

I think it's time to rename this the "Official Transformers The Movie Thread"... might help quiet the confusion.

Transformers...BEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR!!!

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I don't want to give away any plot details, but I will say the CG and story are absolutely perfect! Perfect! They couldn't have done anything better I don't think. Character development (yes...that's not a typo) was spot-on. The Autobots' intros were AWESOME! Same with the Decepticons (some were REALLY gnarly and creepy looking). Good stuff to be seen people!

Can you tell if it has a killer bass track?

I saw this is a poorly run theater (because it was out there on Tuesday) so I can't comment on whether it has typical action movie fratboy bass - however I would venture that as a reasonable presumption. I mean come on, this is Michael Bay.

Overall, I can't disagree with a single criticism made of the movie from the "fanboy" perspective. I am myself a veteran fanboy of the comics, show, toys, and original movie. However I, personally, went into this with very low expectations and I had an amazingly fun time and was very happily surprised by the end with just how much I enjoyed this movie.

My advice would be stay away from reading reviews and just leave your brain at home and go - this is a really enjoyable, if silly, summer blockbuster (and not so insultingly bad as to snap you out of your defocused "just eat the popcorn" mode like some other tripe that's come out this year).

TRANSFORM AND SELL OUT! :D

Just saw it at my local Imax here in Dublin.

Overall 8.5 out of 10
Sound quality (they played it a little soft, dont know why) 7/10

In short, if you're gonna see this make sure the theater you go to has killer sound.

Victor

I thought my brain was overly stimulated waiting for the various references ("More than meets the eye"..."Robots in disguise") wondering how they were going to effectively work those in. They did so perfectly in my mind! It was fun!

The bass is tight and appropriate. This has the possibility of becoming a reference audio disc if they transfer it right. There was some spectacular work with the sound, not just overcranked bass for the hell of it. Honestly. There were sonic booms and such with jets and weapons, but not overly so. I took my other half with me, and she had a fantastic time (even though I had to explain to her some of the jokes and subtle references to different things from the old days). There was even an incredibly humorous dig at "Armageddon" in there that EVERYONE laughed out loud at.

Very well done!!!

I thought the movie was pretty damn good. This is subject material I thought could never be realized on the big screen. For me it was like x-men. Since the day I heard about it coming out I was in disbelif and thought it couldnt be done. And like x-men the only thing TF left me with was wanting more! There was not one shot in this entire movie that I thought looked fake unlike certain movies *cough* sm3 *cough*. This is the type of movie that you leave and say "wow....Ive never seen something like that before." It took an 80's cartoon and made it appear real for crying out loud. If this doesnt win the AA for speacil effects I will glady take a piss on whatever does.

I haven't seen it yet, and was not familiar with the cartoon, nor have I had any of the "Transformers" line of toys...but the trailer caught my interest.

Just beware with this thread; Party-PooperScooper has been on a rampage lately.

Saw on June 25th CInemaexpo, 3DLP CHRISTIE + PCM sound:
sound: A W E S O M E ! stunning. you'll lose a lot in a theater with the analogic DD 380kbs
this will be a killer demo HD disc in the Fall (july +3months=october I guess)
image: super, contrast, sharp. some overblown whites and oversaturated colors still too often, typical of Bay
CGI: amazing ! jeez the advances they did
hot babes: well you get the brunette and the blonde, choose :D
Shia: he's very funny. good surprise
the cars: i want that Camaro !
humour: very funny. audience was 30-60 and they laughed well at the funny parts
wow factor: lots of it. this audience was stunned several times
clapping: yes there were quite some.
cheesy moments: yah, there is a few. it's ok :D
war scenes: euh oh, some mighty impressive help by the US military and this wasn't CGI !
many will be surprised.

9/10

I'd like to see it in a DLP theater, but mine is playing Ratatoullie. So I'll just end up seeing it at my local multiplex like everyone else. Oh, and BTW, which theaters use "analogic DD 380kbs":confused:

Wait. I just tried to reread that whole paragraph and I'm confused.:confused::D

Very few movies ever get me to the theatres. I got out of work early (because of the holiday) and snuck into the theatre for a matinee at 2:00. Wow! I was a fan of the cartoon when I was a kid and heard about this movie..... I'm not going to spoil it for anyone, but there is a scene on the highway that I can't wait to try on my personal HT. That scene is up there with the scene from the second Matrix movie. The theatre I went to had average sound, I was hoping for a little more oophmm on the lower end, but it was respectable. Don't get me started on that yellow Camaro..........bad bad bad bad ass car! GM really got some great PR on this movie, it almost seem like they were a sponsor. Overall, a 10, I'll even buy the DVD and a couple of toys to put on my bookshelf.

I thought this movie was the best in a long time. It was everything that I was expecting and more. When we finally got to see Optimus I felt an adrenaline rush inside of me that I have not experienced in some time...
Wow..Wow and Wow.>

Went last night, and was impressed. The first time we heard Primes voice, I got the chills. I think that The original Voice of Megatron would have worked just fine. Still not fond of what they did to the appearance of the Decipticons but oh well. Found it kinda funny that they had most of the cars GM, and made the Police car a Mustang. Thinking of getting the "To Punish and Destroy" decal on my GT. Going back with the wife tomorrow. Can't wait for the sequel.

I got a chance to see the movie tonight and WOW it was awesome. Transformers came out when I was 5 so I grew up on them. I was skeptical about this movie but it really blew me away and was done very well. The humor in the movie is even good, and really worked. I can't wait for the inevitable sequel.

I saw it in a decent sized theater but there was zero bass. I plan to go as far as I have to to see it in a better theater. Also, I had a kid behind me giving his family a running commentary of the entire movie. I would gladly have paid $50 to see this in HD On Demand in my own house. I went with my brother and my wife. So right there that's $30. Anyone in/near Ocean County have a killer theater? PM me.

I thought Die Hard was great when I saw it on Saturday, but Transformers kicked royal butt. It was definitely better than expected and I can't wait for the dvd release.

I loved it. I thought the humor was a bit too long in the middle, but I loved the movie, still. I'm going back for seconds! Your audio system better be up to par for this one! ILM took the visual effects to an even higher notch! As a kid, this is how I wanted all my action cartoons to be!

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TF2007 was a case of too much good material and not enough time. The basic premise is solid. LaBeouf and the autobots are the stars of this show. When they're on, they light up the screen. And so does the CGI!! I can't remember a single shot that looked fake. Incredible. (Oscar for VFX. I'm calling it now!) Prime and Bumblebee took up most of the Autobots' screen time and their parts were well written. Although just enough of their personalities were shown, Jazz, Ratchet, and Ironhide were likable. Add in Bay's love to blow stuff up and his incredible eye for making things look hip, we already have a 110min movie.

And then there the human side of the story. When things slow down, the two leads were fleshed out well, but in a cliched way. The whole geeky guy lusts for hot babe lusts for rich, football jock is easy to relate to. Fox, Duhamel, Mac, Gibson, Turturro were adequate. Anthony Anderson was hilarious, esp with the Wolverine comment! Unfortunately, Jon Voight was a cardboard cutout, and Rachael Taylor didn't look the part of Maggie, although she's hotter than Fox. The movie stumbles (the govt agents, and the soldiers sound stupid sometimes) when it tries to explain technical mumbo-jumbo.

Well, that left no time to flesh out the Decepticons. With exception for Megatron, they were reduced to filler. Ironhide needed someone to shoot at I suppose. The final battle, although lengthy, contains some jaw-dropping visuals. The Bumblebee/Barricade chase scene was so tense. I could literally hear the audience gasp when it started. Anyways, I could have easily sat thru an additional hour. Definitely a crowd pleaser. Spidey/Shrek/Pirates 3 added together is not as fun as this.

Here here!!! I'm with you guys. In fact, I've now seen the movie twice in less than 24-hours. I have to tell you, watching it the second time, it's better. You aren't nearly as shocked and overwhelmed at what you are seeing so you really have an opportunity to WATCH what's going on and react. Loved it even more tonight than I did last night.

i meant the dolby track is on the film print :) not a cd like dts or pcm (qbit server)
if there was no bass then it's the theater, you'd be amazed how many theaters dont have subs for cost cutting reasons !!!

'cause there is bass ! tight bass and long deep waves

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larry

Hands down, to me, this is the first time I can say the CGI didn't look CGI. The metal that made up Optimus' face looked completely realistic. If anyone knows of any articles on how they did the CGI, put up a link.

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larry

You should have closed my original thread, that was about the trailer. The other thread someone made last night was about reviews and such.

I saw it last night and absolutely LOVED it! I am definitely gonna go see it a couple more times before the end of the weekend :) I have never gotten so many chills while watching a movie :D

Man, I loved this flick. When I read the screenplay last summer, I thought it would be kinda corny, but it played out well on screen. I'm prchasing this the very nanosecond it releases on HDM.

have we seen a movie with such percentage of very very happy viewers ?

that combination of almost constant wow factor all along the film (which is very rare).
i remember DIE HARD 3 was almost non stop ride/clever dialogues etc. or Casino Royale also is all along kinda a constantly engaging. Batman Begins too, Gladiator.

but TRANSFORMERS puts the bar very ver high, is really such a non stop combination of mega wow wow humour wow humour wow wow :D

So I believe I saw Transformers in a 4K DLP projected theater last night...the movie was absolutely breathtaking...I've never seen anything so incredibly sharp. The colors pop out at you and the entire image is 3 dimensional...

Does anyone have a list of 4K theaters in the US so I confirm that it was indeed the high-res DLP cinema?

there's no 4KDLP. only SONY RX serie has 4K res
JVC is working on a proto 4K

You should have closed my original thread, that was about the trailer. The other thread someone made last night was about reviews and such.

Thank you. That was my point yesterday when my original thread was closed. Who cares about a trailer, or is going to find any reviews in a search when the title is reflective of a trailer many months old?

My nephews went.last night...original show they wanted to see was sold out so they went super late...said it was awesome.

When Prime stated,"I am Optimus Prime!" the audience erupted in applause..

this one's gonna be HUGE apparently...I'll wait for a rental!

$28M 2sday night alone...very good shot at $150+M by Sunday IMHO.

you gonna wait for a rental ????????????? i agree theaters for many can't provide a great show (image sound) but some great theaters exist and who has a 2K DLP with 15,000watts and a 70ft screen cinemascope at home ? :)

there's something about a very reactive audience too. it's cool. once in a while. this movie must be seen atleast once in a good theater. so was GLADIATOR, STAR WARS, PRIVATE RYAN, etc

Unbelievable! Every Transformers fanboy (including me) should now be peeing their pants watching this movie.

Second time around today, (had to take the wife) and I found that I had as much fun as the first time around. If you go by Rotten Tomatoes, it is now rotten. Funny thing is that I have yet to hear anyone come out of the Theater that seemed dissapointed. Critics are worthless. Ever since our local newspaper critic gave Showgirls 4 stars I stopped listening to what they have to say.

I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would...probably because I only had one hour of sleep beforehand.

But the score that plays during the Autobot arrival is brilliant.

Second time around today, (had to take the wife) and I found that I had as much fun as the first time around. If you go by Rotten Tomatoes, it is now rotten. Funny thing is that I have yet to hear anyone come out of the Theater that seemed dissapointed. Critics are worthless. Ever since our local newspaper critic gave Showgirls 4 stars I stopped listening to what they have to say.

well on yahoo movies average of "critics" is around B B+
which is high for these intellectual critics for a summer pop corn movies

the public is wrong too sometimes: PIRATES 3 and SPIDERMAN 3 dont imho deserve this box office monster. i dont mind PIRATES 4 but let's hope for a much better script and some sense back in the story and less "grey green" cgi galore

TRANSFORMERS gives A LOT for your theater ticket. a lot of fun ride thrills. and huge wow factor missing for many years.

saw it tonight, loved it, though it is a flawed movie which makes it a 3 out 5 for me. That sounds bad but anything above 2 is positive for me. I just really hated certian charectyars and some of the pacing seemed off but everything else just reeked of awesome. Loved transformers as a kid and despite some charectars turning out sour all the important ones were done right. Even Jazz who could have been annoying and cheezy turned out badass and well done. Anyways reccomend it. I plan on catching it again on a DLP screen. The film grain seemed really evident on the screen I watche dit.

Unbelievable! Every Transformers fanboy (including me) should now be peeing their pants watching this movie.

Yea peeing is the word ( if you watch the movie you know what I mean)

Does anyone know the enitre budget of this film?

Also I would like to know how they did this CGI to make it so real.



Movie was great. Had its famous Bay scenes with the car chases on the highway and the turntable gunfights found in Bad Boys II and The island.

This movie also reminded me a little of Independence day too. Only thing this movie was missing was Will Smith himself.

Yea peeing is the word ( if you watch the movie you know what I mean)

Does anyone know the enitre budget of this film?

Also I would like to know how they did this CGI to make it so real.



Movie was great. Had its famous Bay scenes with the car chases on the highway and the turntable gunfights found in Bad Boys II and The island.

This movie also reminded me a little of Independence day too. Only thing this movie was missing was Will Smith himself.
cg wise it was all ILM I think or mostly with some smaller hosues mixed in. The key thing is that they used a lot of practical effects. They made and entrie bumblebee model that did quite a lot as far as movement. The fact you can rarely tell is a great acheivement.

cg wise it was all ILM I think or mostly with some smaller hosues mixed in. The key thing is that they used a lot of practical effects. They made and entrie bumblebee model that did quite a lot as far as movement. The fact you can rarely tell is a great acheivement.


I did watch the making of Transformers on tv. Bay used REAL explosions and the actors really had to run away from REAL exploding pipelines. He also sent the boys to boot camp so they can get a real experience of combat.

I appreciate that Bay took this film serious and really had as much realism as possible on the set. Just to think it was so real some of the actors could have died on set if something went wrong just says how hardcore he took this movie.

Anyone know how long this movie was in production and the budget?

I did watch the making of Transformers on tv. Bay used REAL explosions and the actors really had to run away from REAL exploding pipelines. He also sent the boys to boot camp so they can get a real experience of combat.

I appreciate that Bay took this film serious and really had as much realism as possible on the set. Just to think it was so real some of the actors could have died on set if something went wrong just says how hardcore he took this movie.

Anyone know how long this movie was in production and the budget?

I'm impressed. We have a digital DLP screen at the RAVE theater 10 miles away showing this. But we also have a Studio Movie Grill (film, not digital) about 10 miles away in the opposite direction also showing this. We haven't been to a SMG yet.

Decisions, decisions... :)

Anyone know how long this movie was in production and the budget?


Production:
February 2006 - June 2007

FILMING:

May 29-2006 til (unknown)

<IMDB>

budget:
$147M (advertising will push it up$20+M)

Had its famous Bay scenes with the car chases on the highway and the turntable gunfights found in Bad Boys II and The island.

I wish it had THE Michael Bay signature shot, this time of Shia holding the cube: The slo-mo, sweeping from waist level, camera looking up, while the actor raises head. (Cage in The Rock, and Lawrence and Smith in Bad Boys.)

I'm impressed. We have a digital DLP screen at the RAVE theater 10 miles away showing this. But we also have a Studio Movie Grill (film, not digital) about 10 miles away in the opposite direction also showing this. We haven't been to a SMG yet.

Decisions, decisions... :)


Id go DLP. I watched it yesterday and man the robots are stellar in HD


Bay and Spielberg are an awesome duo.

Also i just noticed. The voice of Optimus Prime is the same voice as the old cartoon AND the same voice that narrorates the opening introduction of the Voltron cartoon am I right?

I finally went to see Transformers. After a few hours in line (from 9:00 pm to 11:10) I was able to see the movie. In my opinion Transformers is a rare piece of art. This may sound crazy but Michael Bay made a bad movie adaptation but a beautiful screenplay none of the less.

I looked into a series of aspects: ( I knew that the storyline would have issues but I do not care at this point in time)

Development of characters (humans) very poor
CGI (visual and sound effects) F****ing Amazing
Action scenes (top of the line)
Transformation Sequences (Robots) There is not a movie that can match this achievement so far.

My disappointment was not about the bunch of advertising that we may find in the movie (from apple to eBay) but about the new genre that Michael Bay had introduce us “The Robot-Comedy”. He should have been more serious about this. I know I have to be flexible about it because this is a film that reached a wide population, from kids to adults for years. However, and this is a question for you guys. I want to know how you neutralized a Transformer with a fire extinguisher. Again I believe that the writers were reaching the younger audience, F****ing insulting. I was not mad about the aggressive advertisement (of brands) at all, as a matter of fact one of my favorites scenes was the car persecution: Mustang (saleen) Vs the Camaro. I did like the idea of the transformers option having a form that we identified easily. I must add that the movie has tons of fast motion scenes and at some point there were a bit distracting. The Transformers designs were so well created and the way they transformed from cars, jets etc to machines it’s hard to describe.

Humans:

I was certainly impressed with Shia LaBeouf performance’s my god this kid can really act. I am looking forward to see Disturbia 2007. I really do not care if Megan Fox can act or not, I will take her home any day. The rest of the humans were none existent for me. Some scenes were very silly but necessary to give a break to the little ones. It was this mother who took her soon outside for a few moments after he start crying because of the strong violent scenes (weird). The whole president’s undercover organization was very stupid. I think they should have taken this part of the movie with more seriousness. Definitely this is a most buy demo material for HD DVD and BD home presentation. There is a better analysis out there about the movie but I will recommend you to see it and judge for yourself.

Id go DLP. I watched it yesterday and man the robots are stellar in HD


Bay and Spielberg are an awesome duo.

Also i just noticed. The voice of Optimus Prime is the same voice as the old cartoon AND the same voice that narrorates the opening introduction of the Voltron cartoon am I right?

Peter Cullen:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0191520/

THis movie is going to be huge for a couple reasons...the name/nostalgia and the fact it's NOT:

Spiderman 3
POTC 3
Die Hard 4
Rush Hour 3
Bourne 3

the only NEW action flick of the summer! :D

of course only ONE MAN could do Optimus right...

OK.... well, my only gripes with the movie are the following:

- $4000 for that car??? What country were they in again?
- Jon Voight's suit blazer was 2 sizes too tight!
- Anthony Anderson was lame. They should have cut him from the movie and gave his paycheck to a charity.


Other than that, the movie was EXCELLENT!!!! I'm going to see it again for the 3rd time this Sat. :p

OK.... well, my only gripes with the movie are the following:

- $4000 for that car??? What country were they in again?
- Jon Voight's suit blazer was 2 sizes too tight!
- Anthony Anderson was lame. They should have cut him from the movie and gave his paycheck to a charity.


Other than that, the movie was EXCELLENT!!!! I'm going to see it again for the 3rd time this Sat. :p

I think tyrese's street slang during live action battle was a bit uneeded. "Make it rain?" Are we in the strip club now? Also the pee scene with bumblebee was way over the top and a bit grotesque.

as listed I enjoye dthe movie a lot but my gripes:
-John Tutorro, It was like some one tricked him and told him this was going to be a cheezefest and he should act like he's in naked gun. I love teh guy he's done some terrific parts and is talented as hell. and then he gives this performance that belongs in the rocky and bulwinkle movie.

-Frenzy/soundwave- didn't really hate the charectar itself I just found it odd that considering all the transformers were designed to transform realistically and then frenzy seems to just form any random part he needs magically(I know a bit critical but did distract for me).

-only otehr thing that irked me was ripping a computer apart to just send morse code. Again nitpicking but really all morse code is rhythmic pulses which sould be a cheived just by opening and closing a ciruit a computer is way overcomplicated for that.

The film rocks on a level of sound design and animation. It really is unbelievable what they managed to pull off. Hearing a transformer hit the concrete was just incredible to listen to.

The story though, is weak. And it seems the "All Spark" can only turn things into "evil" transformers, which I thought was just strange. The references to "More then meets the eye" and the rest of the cliche tag lines we had as kids were a bit lame too. It felt at times, that Bay just looked at a few of the original cartoons, threw in a few lines that we "all knew", and hoped he created some kind of nostalgic magnet for the rest of us. For me, the lines were a tad cheesey, and you can see why they belong in a cartoon only.

The action was fantastic, though, I'm sorry, sometimes way to fast and dizzying. I actually got nauseous at one point. The action has to be seen though to be understood, describing it is pretty difficult. Though, it is fantastic, you sometimes can't tell who is who, and I just wanted Bay to keep the darn camera still for a moment. This must have been frustrating for the animation crew.

Its a fun movie, but definately not the transformers/personalities we grew up with. Voices and personalities are just all around different, and retain only a hint of what we knew as kids.

Word of caution here: don't bring your kids. I was amazed at how many 4 year olds and UNDER were in the theater. Sorry, this is not a "young" kids movie. There is carnage, cussing, skimpy clothing and death everywhere. My jaw dropped at how many younglings were just scampering around the theater. The machines are fantastic, but there is just a lot of stuff the kids aren't ready for.

This is an "event" movie, so don't miss out. I tend to wait for things to release on DVD since I have my own theater now, however, this one you need to see with a group.

Oh and I agree about that little robot guy (was it really frenzy?).

He reminded me of a Gremlin type character, and was frankly, very annoying, and not funny in the slightest bit. How he managed to sneak around, without being seen was just, dumb.

and the agent guy, was way over the top. i didn't understand the comedy involved with his role as a secret agent. was really mismatched and stupid. i've heard he's a great actor, but in this, his tone was all wrong.

I think tyrese's street slang during live action battle was a bit uneeded. "Make it rain?" Are we in the strip club now? Also the pee scene with bumblebee was way over the top and a bit grotesque.
hmmm... actually I think Tyrese was right on cue. I have enough family who have served and are currently serving to tell you first hand that there is nothing out of the norm with using certain street jargon on the battlefield.

I would agree. I've served in the military, and this stuff goes on all the time. Bay also worked closely with the armed forces, and asked them flat out what would they say/do in these situations to try and get a realistic viewpoint from the soldiers and commanders.

so, a lot of the military jargon that is on screen, are the types of things that would really be said had this "actual" situation occurred. I give Bay some points for this, it was a good call.

I've served in the military, and this stuff goes on all the time. Bay also worked closely with the armed forces, and asked them flat out what would they say/do in these situations to try and get a realistic viewpoint from the soldiers and commanders.
Much of what combat troops actually say in "the heat of battle" would not survive PG-13 rating. Times have changed from when General George Washington admonished the Continental Army: The general is sorry to be informed that the foolish and wicked practice of profane cursing and swearing--a vice heretofore little known in an American army--is growing into fashion. He hopes that the officers will, by example as well as influence, endeavor to check it, and that both they and the men will reflect that we can have little hope of blessing of Heaven on our arms if we continue to insult it by our impiety and folly.

I agree on the military dialogue as well. First rate realism in my mind. Battlefield communications in the heat of the moment are never as cut and dry clear as they were in John Wayne movies. There's emotion on a level none of us (except those that have served) have any idea about, and in those extreme situations, people always resort to reflecting their socialized upbringing. So for me, I liked it more that Bay was (for lack of a better term) "keeping it real" with some of these lines.

People have bagged on the story line and the classic lines from the cartoon. I have to disagree. I think people should consider you have to leave reality at the door when you start seeing actors discussing things such as an All Spark, Cybertron, and a planet full of sentient machines (not from The Matrix). I personally loved the movie and saw it twice in 24 hours (extenuating circumstances with some friends).

I have to agree 100% that this movie might actually look better in HD on a small screen because of Bay's editing in a couple of sequences. The initial battle of Barricade and Bumblebee was difficult to follow on such a big, non-HD, screen. I honestly think that I will enjoy this movie more at home, which is hard to fathom considering I've seen it twice already!

Dare I ask if there's a possibility of a Director's Cut?

Jdog:

What an awesome idea, imagine if Bay had shot a HARD R-RATED version of this and unleashed it on us in a BluRay release!

Cuss words, people getting sliced in half by Decepticons, and most importantly... MEGAN FOX BOOBAGE!

We can dream...

Yeah, topaz, we need "HARD R-RATED" flix about robots that transform from other machines, based on kids' toys. We need adult flix based on all toys and cartoons, come to think of it. Where's "Smurfette Does Dallas"???
Sheesh!

All due respect to IAM4UK, but I agree with topaz. I think an R-rated version would suffice my desires of this movie. When the trailers were released and they held the "rating pending" deal on there for so long, it gave me hope there was an R-rated version somewhere in the fold. I think I've outgrown the boobage thing in movies, since I see them on a daily basis it's lost it's luster:) But when people all of a sudden lose their ability to speak midway through motherfu....you get the idea. I don't know about the BluRay deal either, but whatever. I'm all for a Director's Cut just to see more footage and longer battles. Language and boobs aside, I would love an extended Megatron/Optimus death-match.

Where's "Smurfette Does Dallas"???


Another great idea!

She always was asking for it.

THis movie is going to be huge for a couple reasons...the name/nostalgia and the fact it's NOT:

Spiderman 3
POTC 3
Die Hard 4
Rush Hour 3
Bourne 3

the only NEW action flick of the summer! :D

of course only ONE MAN could do Optimus right...

HOLLYWOOD can only do remakes or sequel after sequel. though they are exceptions and i look forward to BOURNE 3, the final chapter (very tought and violent, good !). I dont pirates 4 if gets its senses back 'cause this third one kinda sucks.

TRANSFORMERS rocks and i'm ready for the nr 2 :))))))

Bay is THE master of destruction indeed. in the french mag Les annees laser he said in a interview that just crave for destroying stuff !! he also talked of his bad relations with his father inlaw or something, William Friedkin i think (or Frankenheimer ??).

he sure did blow up lots of stuff in TRANSFORMERS. no CGI can match that.
when the SPECTRE and the A10 are called on, it's not with blank bullets :D

I'm all for the occasional venture into the popular Summer movie motif of "stuff blowed up real good!", and I'm glad we've come a long way from the 1970's era effects of the superimposed fireball (or spark-fest) to represent such destruction. That's one reason I think a remake of "Logan's Run" might not be a bad thing. Whatever happened to that project?

[Smurfette] always was asking for it.
I'd feel much less creeped-out about that comment if you added a sarcastic grin or wink emoticon... :rolleyes: ;) :D :eek: