looking for a turntable priced 50-200 dollars thats the best money can get.. its for my dads christmas,, i know its a little late,, but this is what he wants.. Any recommendations is good .. Thanks trev.

also what is a phono stage and a catridge?

A turntable puts out a signal that is very low in output, and is equalized with a RIAA eq curve. A phono stage boosts the output to a similar level as a CD player, etc, and applies the proper re-eq to the signal. Without either a specific phono input on the receiver, or a separate phono stage the volume will be very low, and frankly sound like crap.
A cartridge is the actual pickup where the needle is located. Some cartridges have replaceable needles (stylus), more expensive cartridge, notably moving-coil types have non-replaceable stylus. It wont be a factor in your price range, any cartridge in that range will have a replaceable stylus.

The cartridge holds the stylus (needle). Most cartridges come with the stylus at purchase. Since the stylus is subject to wear during use, it is replaceable component. The "phono stage" likely refers to the special amplification/equalization circuitry in an amp or receiver. The cartridge generates signal levels much lower than typical devices the amp receives. That signal also requires equalization since the physics of putting an audio signal on the vinyl disc requires tweaking. The phono pre-amp stage reverses that record cutting equalization to make it compatible with what it should sound like coming from the original source.

That's a quick and dirty explanation.

Hope that helps.

So anyone have any recommendations on that price range?

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maybe from that site?

I have a Stanton STR8-30 and I am very happy with it. It's an entry level direct drive turn table. This was an upgrade from a very old Panasonic turntable that my grandfather owned. Good luck.

PS- First post :-)

If you can extend your budget to about $300, the new Rega P1 is hard to beat and comes pre-mounted with an Orofone cartridge. You will however, still need a phono stage to go with it. If your dad's receiver/preamp already has an MM (moving magnet type) phono input, a separate phono stage isn't necessary.

Don't expect much in that price range.

I would hunt for a used Music Hall MMF-2.1, Pro-ject Debut III, or the aforementioned Rega P1, all should be stellar tables if you can find one in your price range. One downside to these tables is that you have to manually change the belt to switch from 33 to 45 rpm, which on the Music Hall also means you need to lift off the platter; it's kind of a pain but down the line you can buy a Pro-ject Speed Box which works with both the Music Hall and Pro-ject tables.

I was a longtime vinyl listener and never knew how good it could sound until I got the MMF-2.1, and that's considered a bargain basement entry-level audiophile table.

Keep an eye on eBay, Audiogon, J&R, Needle Doctor's closeouts page, and Audio Advisor's clearance page for deals/sales. Good luck!

I just purchased the Pro-Ject ExpressionII, I was fortunate to audition the music hall mmf-2.1 and the rega. The fit and finish on the Pro-Ject was that much nicer than the other two. The same goes for the Debut III that I was looking at.

Pro-Ject Debut III...

So what did you wind up with?

ok...I have long thought of looking around for a turntable to replace the old dual that I have in my good still-operational sound system purchased in the 70s. SInce I don't play my old records very often, the problem with the dual is the belt drive seizes up, and then you have to take it in for repair, BUT you basically can't find repair places any more. (Good old Resistance Repair in Berkeley closed about 10 years ago.)

So I, to am looking for a reasonably priced and long lived replacement for my Dual...which is too bad becasue I know the cartridge and stylus were good and probably still are, given their modest use by people who were careful!

Any suggestions? (I saw an inexpensive Sony turntable at Best Buy...Model # PS-LX250H - but at $134 it can't be worth much...)

PS...I'm also starting a thread on CD recorders, unless I can find one after posting this...because I wouldn't mind a unit where I could transfer old music to CD as I listen, including my records, and also some old tapes...)

The Technics SL-1200 series have always been a staple for DJ's. So solely based on brand loyalty, I would have to recommend the Technics SL-BD20.

As for cartridges/stylii, I've always been a fan of Ortofon and Shure. For plain, old listening to records, I would definitely recommend the Shure M97xE.

You can find both at TurntableLab.

I also recommend this particular turntable. The stock table and cartridge aren't bad for the price and it's easy to upgrade the Goldring Elan cartridge with a Goldring 1000 series cartridge. Tracking force would be the same for the upgrade cartridges. With the 1000 series, you'll get better high frequency response and improved bass response.