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XxDeadlyxX
10-07-07, 01:40 AM
Does the new 3319 build fix the Spiderman trilogy problem?
Also, link?
LAGuy, you acutally had sound past the dvd menu?
Yes, sound was enabled on all chapters. Just black screen.
druid01
10-07-07, 08:38 AM
Does the new 3319 build fix the Spiderman trilogy problem?
Also, link?
No it doesn't :(
HappyFunBoater
10-07-07, 10:47 AM
I've got an HTPC with an ATI HD2600XT running at 1080p. Everything is working and the picture with normal DVD is great.
So I moved my Xbox 360 HD-DVD to the HTPC, installed all the right drivers, and now I can also watch DVDs with the 360 player. Everything is working fine - with DVDs.
But then I downloaded the latest PowerDVD trial and it doesn't recognize HD-DVD disks. (The error is something about "unsupported format". BTW, I can see the file structure just fine via Vista file explorer, so I know the disk is good.) Everything works fine with normal DVD and PowerDVD. I "though" HD-DVD support was available in the PowerDVD trial. Am I just wrong?
I've got an HTPC with an ATI HD2600XT running at 1080p. Everything is working and the picture with normal DVD is great.
So I moved my Xbox 360 HD-DVD to the HTPC, installed all the right drivers, and now I can also watch DVDs with the 360 player. Everything is working fine - with DVDs.
But then I downloaded the latest PowerDVD trial and it doesn't recognize HD-DVD disks. (The error is something about "unsupported format". BTW, I can see the file structure just fine via Vista file explorer, so I know the disk is good.) Everything works fine with normal DVD and PowerDVD. I "though" HD-DVD support was available in the PowerDVD trial. Am I just wrong?
HD-DVD support is part of PowerDVD Ultra, for which there is no trial. That's why the version you loaded calls HD-DVD an "unsupported format."
Vern Dias
10-07-07, 11:03 AM
It's a private link for support use only and for thiose with open tickets, so I can not share it here. (Nor will I PM it to anyone).
Vern
Sapient1
10-07-07, 02:40 PM
I submitted a request on the new Fox titles and received a response giving me a link to the latest 3319 release. Unfortunately the link takes me to a password protected site and they failed to provide a userid and password to access the link!!!
If anyone hass the userid password, would they be so kind as to PM me with it, please?
Vern
I purchased PowerDVD Ultra 2 day's ago(download). I think I have the newest version available. It does not fix F4 nor does it address the Spiderman issue. I have the Pioneer BCD 2202 in my system and I also have the XBox 369 HD drive hooked up through USB. At this time I think I'll stop buying Blue ray disks until they resolve the issues with playback. HD works fine every time. Never had a Hiccup.
almostinsane
10-07-07, 02:45 PM
Since the issue with FF is with Java have you guys thought about updating your Java VM from Sun? Not sure if it would make a difference but it's a thought.
Sapient1
10-07-07, 05:40 PM
Since the issue with FF is with Java have you guys thought about updating your Java VM from Sun? Not sure if it would make a difference but it's a thought.
I downloaded the newest version of JAVA and verified it's install. I'm sorry to report that it didn't work.
Does anyone know if the Update software option works in PowerDVD Ultra. I don't see any updates available for my version. I took a look at the Aug update and it looks like it may actually be newer than the download (purchase) from 2 days ago. My software states the following. PowerDVD Version 7.3(Ultra) . DVD Version 7.3.3104a 1. I found this info by selecting, About, then I clicked my licensed to name box.
hamish b
10-07-07, 05:55 PM
im having major troubles palying vc1 titles on poweredvd
im using
vista 32
ati 2600xt cat 7.9
powerdvd 3104a
running 1080p at 48
all other codecs work fine
what happens is its choppy and very pixellated with green flashes and unwatchable
usually resluts in the whole computer crashing to blue screen then restart
it says something about an infinite loop. anybody else having this trouble?
the trial for arcsoft palys thhem fine
I downloaded the newest version of JAVA and verified it's install. I'm sorry to report that it didn't work.
Does anyone know if the Update software option works in PowerDVD Ultra. I don't see any updates available for my version. I took a look at the Aug update and it looks like it may actually be newer than the download (purchase) from 2 days ago. My software states the following. PowerDVD Version 7.3(Ultra) . DVD Version 7.3.3104a 1. I found this info by selecting, About, then I clicked my licensed to name box.
Also updated Java to no avail.
PDVDU version 7.3.3104.a.1 is the last "public" patch/version. There's another patch to 3319 (?), but Cyberlink is only giving the link out sparingly (they have not answered my requests all week, for example). That new patch doesn't fix the new Fox problems anyway.
hamish b
10-07-07, 10:44 PM
im having major troubles palying vc1 titles on poweredvd
im using
vista 32
ati 2600xt cat 7.9
powerdvd 3104a
running 1080p at 48
all other codecs work fine
what happens is its choppy and very pixellated with green flashes and unwatchable
usually resluts in the whole computer crashing to blue screen then restart
it says something about an infinite loop. anybody else having this trouble?
the trial for arcsoft palys thhem fine
problem solved.
updated the vga bios from the msi web site for the 2600xt
runs beautifully
kevekev30
10-07-07, 10:44 PM
Also updated Java to no avail.
PDVDU version 7.3.3104.a.1 is the last "public" patch/version. There's another patch to 3319 (?), but Cyberlink is only giving the link out sparingly (they have not answered my requests all week, for example). That new patch doesn't fix the new Fox problems anyway.
I disagree the new patch fixed the new fox problems. if you have anydvd enabled you need to disable it and the titles will work if not you have other problems.
druid01
10-08-07, 04:11 AM
Does the new 3319 build fix the Spiderman trilogy problem?
Also, link?
Not only does it not fix the Spiderman issues but ive discovered 3319 breaks Matrix Revolutions, says it requires an update which in 3104 worked fine. :(
lsdavinci
10-08-07, 09:18 AM
Update: The link has expired so my suggestion is to submit a ticket to cyberlink if you haven't done so yet and if you have, just wait a little longer. I will let them know that it does work but not as they instructed...
OK... Although YMMV, 3319 DOES FIX the Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer problem (albeit with little quirks here and there).
I spend Fri, Sat and Sun nights trying to fix this one problem which does include:
Making my blu-ray player into an internal drive.
Upgrading my video card to one that has a smaller heatsink.
PowerDVD breaking to the point I couldn't unistall or re-install.
Deleting all registry entires with Cyberlink.
Restoring my Vista to a date prior to this 3319 upgrade.
After all of the above, I still came to the exact same problem that I had on Thurs night. The retail install (from link provided by Cyberlink), then the 3319 patch. This gave me an installation that didn't play my FF4 disc, didn't play any BD disc for that matter. Even ones that were on hard drive, they didn't have audio. But HD-DVDs played fine.
Now I will start with the solution (my solution) here:
So I did one more thing before I called it a night: I simply re-installed the 3319 patch and VOILA!!!! First test has the BD movie on the hard drive. AUDIO WAS WORKING! and the for ultimate test, FF4. Popped it in, drive started spinning, screen went black, drive stopped for a moment and STARTED SPINNING AGAIN!!!! Then there was a little animated graphic of little circles completing a bigger circle in the middle lower part of the screen. And then came the previews (The Simpsons Movie) and then the FF4 menu. HOLY CR@P! I couldn't believe it. I watched the first 5 minutes and skipped to a couple of chapters. It looked and sounded AWESOME!
So to conclude, everything I did above wasn't necessary but I meant to do it for quite a while. The only thing I did different that seemed to have worked was the following:
1. Installed Retail version (3014 I believe). It does the uninstall and re-install.
2. Played a BD off the hd just to test. it worked.
3. Installed the 3319 patch.
4. Played the same BD. Picture was fine, no audio.
5. Reinstalled 3319 again.
6. Played the same BD. Picture and Sound worked.
7. Played FF4: ROTSS. WORKED!
The little quirk I mentioned above that I saw was that in the menu, I chose the audio setup (like I always do), made my selection, exited audio setup and went the play. Somehow the 2 Audio Setup buttons in the middle of the screen remained when the movie started playing. Couldn't get rid of them. So I stopped it. When I went to play again, it crashed. I rebooted, played the disc, went straight to play (the DTS-HD was default anyway) and everything was smooth from there on. Will it crash or do something weird while watching? Maybe but I'll find out tonight when I watch it with my son.
You know, after all that I went thru I can't help but think we're nothing but beta testers with cyberlink. But hey, this is a new format and Fox threw a monkey wrench in the works. I'm just glad that I didn't have to return the movie which I was close to doing yesterday.
As I said, YMMV so to help with the effort and to let Cyberlink know that maybe it might be a better idea to do what other companies do (like ASUS) and provide the option of installing beta patches which what I think 3319 is and let us have a go at it instead of having people wait and wait and wait and then providing them a link to something that, at first, doesn't seem to work. So PM me for the link and credentials you need to test yourself. Remember, you still need a CD-Key... and remember to post your results.
Good Luck!
So PM me for the link and credentials you need to test yourself. Remember, you still need a CD-Key... and remember to post your results.
Good Luck!
You are without a doubt the kindest person, to give the link. There was also another guy a while back that did the same kudos to you two fine individuals. I quit updating after 3104 the "A" update cripples VC-1 due to the 16fps bug in XP 20fps Vista, using third party apps. I just bought Apocalypto yesterday and although PDVD plays the disk I still play it back in MPC because it just a better player.
I won't update their player until I test their updates on another PC, because they have a tendency of screwing your PC with poorly written installers/uninstallers. I don't trust them and I never really did ever since that last crappy update.
lsdavinci
10-08-07, 12:46 PM
You are without a doubt the kindest person, to give the link. There was also another guy a while back that did the same kudos to you two fine individuals. I quit updating after 3104 the "A" update cripples VC-1 due to the 16fps bug in XP 20fps Vista, using third party apps. I just bought Apocalypto yesterday and although PDVD plays the disk I still play it back in MPC because it just a better player.
I won't update their player until I test their updates on another PC, because they have a tendency of screwing your PC with poorly written installers/uninstallers. I don't trust them and I never really did ever since that last crappy update.
I definately agree. But in a way I'm glad it happened. It showed me the usefullness of Vista's Restore. Wow! I heard about it but never used it until now. It allowed me to restore to the OS just prior to the 3319 update and I was back up and running. Vista Restore is my official Plan B if PowerDVD runs amuck again...
jeffreydeng
10-08-07, 03:20 PM
I am using Windows Vista MCE and PowerDVD. I am using ChainTech AV710 with latest driver downloaded from http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=36&CatID=2910&SubCatID=107. I connect AV710 to SOny receiver via optical spdif cable.
When playing DVD, MCE output DD to my receiver and I can see that DD indicator on the receiver. However when using PowerDVD, if I select 'Use SPDIF' for audio, no sound will be heard. It only work is I choose '2 speakers' for audio setting.
Does anyone know the way to fix this? Or can this be fixed? I really need DD/DTS to be out to my receiver since my receiver only has digital input for multiple speaker configuration. And I need to run PowerDVD for HD contents. If this is a known limit of AV710 I will need to buy other sound card.
Sapient1
10-08-07, 04:41 PM
I'm still waiting to hear from support for the F4 AACS keys. No patch has been posted and no response for my request. Why the hell doesn't the Auto update work on this software. Why does it even attempt to update the critical files needed and then tell you the update was successful when it didn't even update anything. This software needs to be fixed. :mad:
I definately agree. But in a way I'm glad it happened. It showed me the usefullness of Vista's Restore. Wow! I heard about it but never used it until now. It allowed me to restore to the OS just prior to the 3319 update and I was back up and running. Vista Restore is my official Plan B if PowerDVD runs amuck again...
That's good to hear although I have Vista I have never bothered using it, because I just don't use that OS anymore. I think I bought the update from Acronis, and I don't know how well Vista's restore works with raid configurations. I also keep images of my xp set up but PDVD imo just isn't worth a re image anymore... even though it only takes 6 min. PDVD has been downgraded to my garage PC test box using an old Northwood and a donated monitor. Anytime I run a new prog or update it usually goes to the garage first for a 24 hr test.:D
I can't even remember using PDVD to watch a whole movie, because I just don't bother using it anymore. As long as I can play it in MPC I will never use PDVD unless I'm forced to, I got tire of waiting for those guys at Cyber, but by that time I can usually get things working, utilizing AnyDVD or DVDFabHD, or even Decrypter for that matter great for mounting images. Tinder boxes are your best friend especially for the new titles.
Davinleeds
10-08-07, 06:20 PM
I'm still waiting to hear from support for the F4 AACS keys. No patch has been posted and no response for my request. Why the hell doesn't the Auto update work on this software. Why does it even attempt to update the critical files needed and then tell you the update was successful when it didn't even update anything. This software needs to be fixed. :mad:
I've had this update problem for 6 weeks and all they want me to do is uninstall/reinstall. Rippers are updated. Finally they sent me a BD update link for my HD DVD. Yeah, ok.
Vern Dias
10-08-07, 07:49 PM
3319 fixed the Fox titles for me.
Unfortunately it broke the ability to use YXY to do aspect ratio control. YXY used to allow me to move and size the PowerDVD windowed display to handle all aspect ratios on my constant height screen with an anamorphic lens.
With 3319, the display window cannot be moved in the downward direction enough to center the issue. Looks like I'll have to go back to the previous release....
Vern
XxDeadlyxX
10-08-07, 11:00 PM
Not only does it not fix the Spiderman issues but ive discovered 3319 breaks Matrix Revolutions, says it requires an update which in 3104 worked fine. :(
Ok now that is teh sux :mad:
Sapient1
10-09-07, 12:45 AM
OK people. I went to member services and found I had 1 month of voice support for being a Platinum member. I called and was given the link to the 3319 build. I installed the software and now F4 works. I noticed that someone said it broke HD's Matrix Revolutions. I checked out all three Matrix disks and they all worked. I did notice one thing about this build. It uses a hell of a lot more CPU power. I had to turn off Windows Side Bar and my Virus software to make BD run smooth. Otherwise it would chatter and the Video would start to fall appart. I run an AMD 64 X2 6000+ with 2 gigs of ram and a EVGA 8800GTS OC with 640 megs. Onboard sound (Realtek HD) I use the Xbox 360 Drive (USB)for HD's and an internal Pioneer BDC 2202 for BD. I also use a Gateway FPD2485W 24" HD monitor with DVI-D HDCP input.
I don't think this has been mentioned yet: The US-HD DVD of "Hulk" finally works with the 3319 patch.
I'm back to version 2911 anyways. I still can't should off Hardware Accerlation in any version above 2911. The picture quality with my Geforce 8800 GTS and Hardware Accerlation on is just unacceptable. Unfortuantly the good service people over at cyberlink keep telling me to just uncheck the box before starting the movie even after I explained to them, that the boxs checks itself back on as soon as a movie starts.
Sapient1
10-09-07, 08:56 AM
I don't think this has been mentioned yet: The US-HD DVD of "Hulk" finally works with the 3319 patch.
I'm back to version 2911 anyways. I still can't should off Hardware Accerlation in any version above 2911. The picture quality with my Geforce 8800 GTS and Hardware Accerlation on is just unacceptable. Unfortuantly the good service people over at cyberlink keep telling me to just uncheck the box before starting the movie even after I explained to them, that the boxs checks itself back on as soon as a movie starts.
I don't understand why Hardware acceleration is bad for the 8800GTS. The only problem I have is the software uses so much of the systems resources. (As I said above). Maybe someone can explain why we should or should not use Hardware Eceleration to me.
Well as I said, the picture quality with Hardware Accerlation on is just not as good. The picture just doesn't have that 3D look is has in software mode. Also with HA on I've got some really bad Edge Enhancement. I tried diffrent settings in the NVidia Control Panel but it didn't change anything.
arfster
10-09-07, 11:35 AM
Well as I said, the picture quality with Hardware Accerlation on is just not as good. The picture just doesn't have that 3D look is has in software mode. Also with HA on I've got some really bad Edge Enhancement. I tried diffrent settings in the NVidia Control Panel but it didn't change anything.
Tried best quality in PDVD video options?
BigTony
10-09-07, 11:46 AM
Here is the link for 3319 patch, try it at your own risk:
http://download.cyberlink.com/ftpdload/patch/BD_HD/Tov30/DVD070813-02/PowerDVD_Ultra.exe
BigTony
tristartristan
10-09-07, 11:49 AM
Well as I said, the picture quality with Hardware Accerlation on is just not as good. The picture just doesn't have that 3D look is has in software mode. Also with HA on I've got some really bad Edge Enhancement. I tried diffrent settings in the NVidia Control Panel but it didn't change anything.
+1:o
It's why i disable HA.
tristartristan
10-09-07, 11:54 AM
Here's the link for the new player for HDDVD/BR:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19192049-Digital-Theater-2-FREE-Trial-with-HD-DVD-and-BD-Playback
This is the trial version!:)
I don't think this has been mentioned yet: The US-HD DVD of "Hulk" finally works with the 3319 patch.
I'm back to version 2911 anyways. I still can't should off Hardware Accerlation in any version above 2911. The picture quality with my Geforce 8800 GTS and Hardware Accerlation on is just unacceptable. Unfortuantly the good service people over at cyberlink keep telling me to just uncheck the box before starting the movie even after I explained to them, that the boxs checks itself back on as soon as a movie starts.
what version drivers are you using, i use drivers 162.18 with pdvd 3104a and i can turn off HWA with a 8600gts and i see what your saying the pq is better with accerlation off
Yes I tried the Best Quality Option in PDVD. It didn't help. The Cyberlink-Service just sent me another answer to my call regarding the Hardware Accerlation issue:
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Thank you for contacting CyberLink Online Support.
That is great. You are now able watch one of your favorite movies using CyberLink Power DVD Ultra.
We suggest you to follow the steps given below to disable hardware acceleration:
Launch PowerDVD--->Go to Configuration-->Video-->clear the "Enable hardware acceleration.
Also, disable the hardware acceleration in the following way:
1.) Control Panel
2.) Display
3.) Settings
4.) Advanced
5.) Troubleshoot
6.) Set hardware acceleration to "none" or at minimum, disable all DirectDraw and Direct3D accelerations as well as all cursor and advanced drawing accelerations.
We also suggest you to update the display drivers, update drivers of NVIDIA graphics card. That should help in resolving the issue to a great extent. You can visit the manufacturer’s website to update it.
Now, try again to play the rest of your movies.
If the issue still persists then we request you to send us system log file (DxDiag.txt log file) for further analysis.
DxDiag.txt: You can use the steps that follow to create this file......
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Of course I tried out the first option a great many times, but I seem to be unable to try the second option. I get till point 5 which is Troubleshoot but then Vista or NVidia won't let me change anything even though I'm logged in as administrator. I can't push the button that's in the Troubleshoot menu... Very strange. Could this be a driver issue and not a PowerDVD problem? I'm using the 163.69 Driver...
georgeorwell
10-09-07, 12:19 PM
Here's the link for the new player for HDDVD/BR:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19192049-Digital-Theater-2-FREE-Trial-with-HD-DVD-and-BD-Playback
This is the trial version!:)
Great, a supposed link to trial software, in Japanese, that you can't purchase, in the PowerDVD thread.
Here's the link for the new player for HDDVD/BR:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19192049-Digital-Theater-2-FREE-Trial-with-HD-DVD-and-BD-Playback
This is the trial version!:)Whole thread on it here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=900666
arfster
10-09-07, 12:24 PM
We suggest you to follow the steps given below to disable hardware acceleration:
Launch PowerDVD--->Go to Configuration-->Video-->clear the "Enable hardware acceleration.
That's just ridiculous. They suggest fixing their bug by completely disabling all graphics cards functions on the entire PC. On top of that, they suggest it's a driver problem, when in reality the same thing happens with every driver/graphics card out there since 3104.
Installed the PDVD 3319 patch from the link, twice, on XP 8400GS 163.75beta.
1. HA still forced, regardless of whether the box is ticked or not.
2. King Kong still exhibits aliasing and reduced resolution, plus now noticeable banding on opening credits.
3. Fullscreen is now windowboxed (approx 1600x900 on a 1920x1440p72 desktop).
4. Clicking advanced video button in stopped mode closes PowerDVD completely so can't modify de-interlacing settings (with previous versions, PowerDVD crashed).
5. Screen flashes occasionally (possibly during scene changes).
For the drivers:
1. None/PAL/NTSC IVTC control reverts back to None when NTSC applied. I don't think IVTC is actually working.
2. 6500K adjustment still way too red.
3. WMV9 decoder playback of VC-1 with DXVA enabled still has blue horizontal bar across bottom of display in MPC.
4. Can't be arsed checking other parameters.
IMO, neither the beta drivers or PowerDVD update provide any benefit to correct HD-DVD playback (for entry level hardware), but are actually a backward step.
The windowboxing sounds very similar to the ATI 2400Pro anecdotal experiences unless the registry is tweaked. Are entry level graphics cards actually unable to play full 1080p quality?
Playing 300 HD-DVD in blue-screen PIP mode utilises 50% CPU (C2D 2.8GHz) and 870MB RAM even in hardware accelerated mode.
An 8500GT exhibits similar behaviour to the 8400GS, but also crashes after a while playing an HD-DVD (8400GS doesn't crash).
Vern Dias
10-10-07, 08:03 AM
More badness on 3319:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11863501
Vern
It sure seems after each patch, especially after 3104.0 they are adding more restrictions to the player. Heck I'm still using 94.20 drivers with my 3104.0 build but after that update that's when I noticed none of my third party players were working properly due to the fps bug. Re imaging was the only way to get the PC back in it's original state because they changed something in the registry and adding/removing PDVD doesn't fix this. The bug is still there unless I wipe my raid array completely and replace it with a new image.
Here is the link for 3319 patch, try it at your own risk:
http://download.cyberlink.com/ftpdload/patch/BD_HD/Tov30/DVD070813-02/PowerDVD_Ultra.exe
BigTony
BigTony thanks for posting that link I'm sure that will help out a lot of people that are frustrated with Cyber's poor response time. I'm sure you saved them a lot frustration. Although as I stated I have not bothered with anymore updates after 3104.0. And from the looks of it, seems things are getting worse...:mad:
AnthonyB
10-10-07, 03:06 PM
Does this patch allow the use of BD+ and MKB v4?
Has anyone else experienced fine aliasing with an 8x00 graphics card in HA mode and the 163.71 Nvidia drivers? Any ideas what it is and what might be required to eliminate it?
It's most noticeable in the opening credits of King Kong on the King Kong text, but also visible on any near-horizontal line. Not sure what is happening, but it looks like some form of interlacing, field order reversal, artifact.
I think it's robbing me of full 1080p resolution compared to software decoding.
I can't get into the PowerDVD de-interlacing controls as PowerDVD crashes whenever the advanced video options button is clicked, but I'm sure I had it set to None originally.
Hardware acceleration seems to be doing very different things than software decoding, when I think they should be working the same (apart from the acceleration bit).
user4avsforum
10-10-07, 07:58 PM
Great, a supposed link to trial software, in Japanese, that you can't purchase, in the PowerDVD thread.
As unhappy as most of us are with PDVDU I almost think this is appropriate. I for one will switch (to almost anything) as soon as there is an alternative.
CrisisDog
10-11-07, 09:10 AM
I am using Windows Vista MCE and PowerDVD. I am using ChainTech AV710 with latest driver downloaded from http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=36&CatID=2910&SubCatID=107. I connect AV710 to SOny receiver via optical spdif cable.
When playing DVD, MCE output DD to my receiver and I can see that DD indicator on the receiver. However when using PowerDVD, if I select 'Use SPDIF' for audio, no sound will be heard. It only work is I choose '2 speakers' for audio setting.
Does anyone know the way to fix this? Or can this be fixed? I really need DD/DTS to be out to my receiver since my receiver only has digital input for multiple speaker configuration. And I need to run PowerDVD for HD contents. If this is a known limit of AV710 I will need to buy other sound card.
I'm in the process of finishing off my first true dedicated HTPC. A few days ago I connected it up to my older Sony 5.1 receiver via SPDIF using a Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer card. I'm having the same issue. I can get 5.1 audio through Vista Media Center and PowerDVD Ultra *only* on regular DVDs. Once I throw in a Blu Ray disk or HD DVD, it will not output audio via SPDIF and I have to manually reconfigure PowerDVD Ultra to use two channel audio to get any sound. I contacted Cyberlink tech support and they state this is a known issue, and *should* be corrected in one of the upcoming patch updates. More waiting...
:(
originalsnuffy
10-11-07, 11:27 AM
CrisisDog;
I get spdif with PowerDVD ultra and HD DVD, no problem. Just select spdif as your sound output option in both windows and PowerDVD. IMPORTANT: remove ac3filter!
Can anyone tell me if you can buy Powerdvd ultra for less than $99 it seems that's the only price I can find it for. I don’t want to update I need a full install.
shayking
10-11-07, 02:04 PM
sorry guys....IT's Almost BEEN 1 YEAR and look at this crap...
Rediculous....what the hell have they been Doing......???
$100, please do not purchase this software...i feel like pukeing
trevisthomas
10-11-07, 04:28 PM
Holy crap there are 100 pages in this thread.
I'm a bad netizen but i happen to own the 360 HD-DVD drive and i wanted to see if what you guys said was true, that with PowerDVD it would work on my HTPC and it does. I've not purchased the ap yet because i dont want to spend money until i have a permanent internal combo drive. But last night, i fired things up... really to make sure it still worked after some other changes... and it told me that i needed to download a patch to "insure future compatibility" i said... "no not now" and so it kicked me in the teeth repeatedly and said mean things about my mother until i downloaded their 100mb "patch" after that came down and i installed it i found that my free king kong hd-dvd chugged horribly and no longer had surround sound. I thought that it was something else that i had done to the PC but eventually determined that it was the power dvd patch. So i removed it all and reinstalled an old version, and quickly disabled the "check for updates" feature. Seems to work again now. I'm not sure which versions these were but i can attest to the fact that the newer version lacks a spdif out option.
I used to *hate* the intervideo people years ago but it seems like these jokers may be even worse.
jeffreydeng
10-11-07, 05:44 PM
CrisisDog;
I get spdif with PowerDVD ultra and HD DVD, no problem. Just select spdif as your sound output option in both windows and PowerDVD. IMPORTANT: remove ac3filter!
What sound card you are using? AV710 or something else?
And yes, I am using ac3filter. I will try this after I get back home today.
Update: No it doesn't work even I uninstall ac3filter. I am not happy about this.
jeffreydeng
10-11-07, 05:47 PM
I'm in the process of finishing off my first true dedicated HTPC. A few days ago I connected it up to my older Sony 5.1 receiver via SPDIF using a Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer card. I'm having the same issue. I can get 5.1 audio through Vista Media Center and PowerDVD Ultra *only* on regular DVDs. Once I throw in a Blu Ray disk or HD DVD, it will not output audio via SPDIF and I have to manually reconfigure PowerDVD Ultra to use two channel audio to get any sound. I contacted Cyberlink tech support and they state this is a known issue, and *should* be corrected in one of the upcoming patch updates. More waiting...
:(
The worse thing I am having is that I can not get DD5.1 on regular DVD either. I can overcome that by using MCE. But I have to use PDVD for BD nd HDDVD. That sucks.
trevisthomas
10-11-07, 05:49 PM
From what i saw last night, spdif is not in the list of the latest version. Maybe there is a driver issue that causes it to be removed but it's definitly in the older release.
originalsnuffy
10-11-07, 07:27 PM
OOOOH.....if they took spdif out of the new version, all bets are off. But for the spdif to work on my system, with my version of PowerDVD, I had to remove AC3 Filter.
CrisisDog
10-11-07, 08:43 PM
CrisisDog;
I get spdif with PowerDVD ultra and HD DVD, no problem. Just select spdif as your sound output option in both windows and PowerDVD. IMPORTANT: remove ac3filter!
Thanks for the info, but where is this "Remove AC3Filter" that you speak of?
:p
I've been up and down through the X-Fi driver configuration settings and the PowerDVD config screens, can't find it...
CrisisDog
10-11-07, 09:16 PM
Thanks for the info, but where is this "Remove AC3Filter" that you speak of?
:p
I've been up and down through the X-Fi driver configuration settings and the PowerDVD config screens, can't find it...
I think I just answered my own question. It seems to be a software codec package to play the digital audio content of files. Sorry, nope, didn't install it. This is a new PC with a base install of Vista Ultimate x32 and the latest PowerDVD Ultra. Not much else, yet.
Just as an FYI, here's the response I got from CyberLink support...
vCGaurav Reply 2007/10/10 12:11
Dear Keith,
Thank you for contacting CyberLink Online Support.
We understand your concern related with PowerDVD Ultra.
Regarding your issue, please note that PowerDVD Ultra does not support more then 2-channel using the SPDIF for HD-DVD and for Blu-Ray DVD. We wish to inform you that our Product & Development they already working on it and soon they will release the patch for this issue. Once we get any update from our Product & Development department, we will mention the same on our website, so please keep visit www.cyberlink.com for latest updates.
For new queries, you can contact us using the following link for immediate response:
>> index.jsp <<
Please feel free to contact us back for any further clarification in this issue or for any assistance related to CyberLink Products.
Thank You and Best Regards
originalsnuffy
10-11-07, 09:38 PM
The email from Cyberlink saying that they do not support more than 2 channels over spdif is humorous. I use the product...ac3 works just fine. So I do not get what is going on...looks like they disabled it in the recent release.
Is that a common experience? Yecch.
jeffreydeng
10-11-07, 09:39 PM
vCGaurav Reply 2007/10/10 12:11
Dear Keith,
Thank you for contacting CyberLink Online Support.
We understand your concern related with PowerDVD Ultra.
Regarding your issue, please note that PowerDVD Ultra does not support more then 2-channel using the SPDIF for HD-DVD and for Blu-Ray DVD. We wish to inform you that our Product & Development they already working on it and soon they will release the patch for this issue. Once we get any update from our Product & Development department, we will mention the same on our website, so please keep visit www.cyberlink.com for latest updates.
For new queries, you can contact us using the following link for immediate response:
>> index.jsp <<
Please feel free to contact us back for any further clarification in this issue or for any assistance related to CyberLink Products.
Thank You and Best Regards
This doesn;t seem to be right. I have been using EVGA 680i SLI mobo with the optical spdif output and connect it to JVC receiver for playing HDDVD and BD and I have been enjoying the DD and DTS audio. So why they are saying the PDVD Ultra only supports 2 channel of audio though spdif ? :(
almostinsane
10-11-07, 09:54 PM
I think they mean 2 channel PCM.
arfster
10-11-07, 10:23 PM
They probably mean it doesn't work flawlessly, so they prefer to say "don't support" rather than "it's broken". Gives them more time to fix it.
ballenjr
10-11-07, 11:01 PM
.... So i removed it all and reinstalled an old version, and quickly disabled the "check for updates" feature. Seems to work again now. I'm not sure which versions these were but i can attest to the fact that the newer version lacks a spdif out option.
I used to *hate* the intervideo people years ago but it seems like these jokers may be even worse.
Really dumb question, but where can you disable the "check for updates" feature. I've unchecked the "connect to the internet for product information" box, but I'm still getting messages for me to download the latest patch.
Any help would be appreciated.
Holy crap there are 100 pages in this thread.
I'm a bad netizen but i happen to own the 360 HD-DVD drive and i wanted to see if what you guys said was true, that with PowerDVD it would work on my HTPC and it does. I've not purchased the ap yet because i dont want to spend money until i have a permanent internal combo drive. But last night, i fired things up... really to make sure it still worked after some other changes... and it told me that i needed to download a patch to "insure future compatibility" i said... "no not now" and so it kicked me in the teeth repeatedly and said mean things about my mother until i downloaded their 100mb "patch" after that came down and i installed it i found that my free king kong hd-dvd chugged horribly and no longer had surround sound. I thought that it was something else that i had done to the PC but eventually determined that it was the power dvd patch. So i removed it all and reinstalled an old version, and quickly disabled the "check for updates" feature. Seems to work again now. I'm not sure which versions these were but i can attest to the fact that the newer version lacks a spdif out option.
I used to *hate* the intervideo people years ago but it seems like these jokers may be even worse.
i dont remember installing a patch but something has slowed my playback down real good. im running powerdvd on an a64 x2 4200+ x1800 in vista, i cant get h/w accel to stay on for vc1, havent tried h264. It ran fine before, but now runs smooth for a few seconds before falling back to a frame every 10 seconds.
I ripped the hddvd to my hdd and it ran fine - is it possible that usb isnt fast enough for hddvd, or has powerdvd installed a patch with ou me realising?
crumpet
10-12-07, 05:10 AM
guys i just installed power dvd ultra 7.3 and both hd-dvd and blu-ray are working spot on with TrueHD, DD+ and LPCM all being outputted to my receiver via analogue
tell me am i actually getting the HD audio or is it being downgraded somehow
AngelEyes
10-12-07, 05:21 AM
guys i just installed power dvd ultra 7.3 and both hd-dvd and blu-ray are working spot on with TrueHD, DD+ and LPCM all being outputted to my receiver via analogue
tell me am i actually getting the HD audio or is it being downgraded somehow
DD+ appears to be untouched but DTS-HD MA is unsupported and just playsback the core DTS track. DD trueHD is downsampled to a maximum of 16bit 48hz although it may be that tracks originally at this sample rate are further downsampled. LPCM appears to be downsampled also for some reason although know one knows for sure.
Some claim to hear a difference when comparing TrueHD with LPCM, personally I can't. All the new tracks do sound a lot better than standard DD though :)
More info here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=892863
Adam
crumpet
10-12-07, 05:40 AM
is there anyway to check if its being downsampled, how do you know ?
AngelEyes
10-12-07, 05:56 AM
is there anyway to check if its being downsampled, how do you know ?
Well if you read the thread (;)) you will see that cyberlink have confirmed a number of times that it is downsampled to comply with AACS. What prompted me to ask them was the fact I could not hear any improvement of a TrueHD (7.5 mbps) track over a DD+ (1.5mbs) track.
DD+ and TruHD definately sound better than vanilla DD which isn't in debate but the HiRes tracks don't seem any improvement over DD+ 1.5 mbps even though some are as high as 8mbps.
Do a few tests and see what you think. There is often a volume increase that obviously increases the dynamics a bit but a for the vast improvement I was expeccting... it's just not there.
I have some fairly good kit, M&K, Rotel, Arcam SVS etc. and I can't hear an improvement but at least one guy on the thread with a creative 5.1 setup can hear a difference...
The good new is that cyberlink and MS are working on creating a protected path in the OS (probably Vista only I am guessing) which should then allow them to remove the downsampling. However, when this will happen we don't know.
Adam
crumpet
10-12-07, 05:59 AM
so even using any dvd hd will not improve this situation
is that what you tried when you couldnt hear the diff ?
AngelEyes
10-12-07, 06:07 AM
so even using any dvd hd will not improve this situation
is that what you tried when you couldnt hear the diff ?
The downsampling is put in place by cyberlink because the current hardware/software has loopholes that would allow someone to gain access to the copy protected soundtracks. It isn't dependent on the disc or anydvd or anything else, it is there to protect Cyberlink from being sued.
The sound is downsampled in the player before it is sent to the soundcard driver.
As mentioned, if you read the thread in my previous post all your questiosn should be answered. :)
Adam
Well if you read the thread (;)) you will see that cyberlink have confirmed a number of times that it is downsampled to comply with AACS. What prompted me to ask them was the fact I could not hear any improvement of a TrueHD (7.5 mbps) track over a DD+ (1.5mbs) track.
DD+ and TruHD definately sound better than vanilla DD which isn't in debate but the HiRes tracks don't seem any improvement over DD+ 1.5 mbps even though some are as high as 8mbps.
Do a few tests and see what you think. There is often a volume increase that obviously increases the dynamics a bit but a for the vast improvement I was expeccting... it's just not there.
I have some fairly good kit, M&K, Rotel, Arcam SVS etc. and I can't hear an improvement but at least one guy on the thread with a creative 5.1 setup can hear a difference...
The good new is that cyberlink and MS are working on creating a protected path in the OS (probably Vista only I am guessing) which should then allow them to remove the downsampling. However, when this will happen we don't know.
Adam
I have a similar experience. With Dave Matthews live the 2 channel 16/48 sound track sound much better than the 96/24 multi-channel PCM.
I am running a Modded X-FI with LM4562's to a Integra Research RDC1 to a Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature amp to Revel speakers. If it were better, I think I would hear it.
Can someone else try this title and report their findings?
- Rich
Jim HTPC
10-12-07, 09:25 AM
Those that want the latest patch and can't wait can go to a link on the aacsla.com webpage.
The link is: http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/patch/enu/index.jsp
You need to use IE due to the use of ActiveX and you can then download the patch.
Not sure to tell what version it turned into, it just shows 7.3 as always for me.
AngelEyes
10-12-07, 11:11 AM
Go to about and then click on your name it should show this is version 3319.0.
Thanks for the link :)
trevisthomas
10-12-07, 12:07 PM
I ripped the hddvd to my hdd and it ran fine - is it possible that usb isnt fast enough for hddvd, or has powerdvd installed a patch with ou me realising? The interface is plenty fast for hddvd. I mean Microsoft wouldnt have gotten the drive to work on the xbox using usb if it wasnt. Now that dosent mean that there isnt a problem with the usb port on your pc though.
The interface is plenty fast for hddvd. I mean Microsoft wouldnt have gotten the drive to work on the xbox using usb if it wasnt. Now that dosent mean that there isnt a problem with the usb port on your pc though.
Preety sure everything is ok. Does anydvd use up alot of power when decrypting aacs?
I'm just playing back some movies in the japanese Arcsoft player. They're definitely running better, but still slightly chuggy.
I don't understand why powerdvd worked fine, then started lagging horribly. When i updated to the absolute latest version, i got it running much smoother, but still choppy.
Am i expecting too much from a dual core 4200+? I can't find a way to turn HW Accel on for vc1 on my x1800, is that normal? Would upgrading to a 2600 pro fix it? I'm willing to go out and buy one, if it will certainly allow vc1 playback.
trevisthomas
10-12-07, 12:39 PM
Preety sure everything is ok. Does anydvd use up alot of power when decrypting aacs?
I'm just playing back some movies in the japanese Arcsoft player. They're definitely running better, but still slightly chuggy.
I don't understand why powerdvd worked fine, then started lagging horribly. When i updated to the absolute latest version, i got it running much smoother, but still choppy.
Am i expecting too much from a dual core 4200+? I can't find a way to turn HW Accel on for vc1 on my x1800, is that normal? Would upgrading to a 2600 pro fix it? I'm willing to go out and buy one, if it will certainly allow vc1 playback.
I am by no means an expert in any of this but it sure sounds like you're describing the exact same thing i saw with their new version. The latest version removed spdif so my only audio option was AAC and when i tried switching to higher and higher numbers of AAC channels the movies were randomly unplayable. They'd hit scenes where it turned into a slide show and i never had anything like that before the upgrade. I removed the latest version to get spdif back and now it works perfectly again.
This really makes me afraid to plop down the cash for a br/hd combo drive. I just got a PS3 for ratchet and clank so i'll probably let htpc hddvd/br playback mature a while longer.
originalsnuffy
10-12-07, 12:47 PM
Is it confirmed that the latest version of this product turns off spdif support for everybody?
If so....I 'd recommend going back a version. With the new ATI drivers 7.10, and the next to last rev. of PowerDVD...the picture is very nice indeed. Resolution is not full HD...more like 1300x700 (I am at work not home). Had to settle for lower resolution so I could switch between HDMI through the receiver and direct in of VGA. Every so often I crash the HDMI output in hi res mode using PowerDVD, and VGA mode has it limits!
SPDIF works on the three systems that uses optical digital (X-mystique and X-plosion)for sound with PDVD 3319. Maybe the Auzentech cards are recoding the audio? Works fine with anolog (X-meridian) on my main HTPC also.
user4avsforum
10-12-07, 01:45 PM
Holy crap there are 100 pages in this thread.
I'm a bad netizen but i happen to own the 360 HD-DVD drive and i wanted to see if what you guys said was true, that with PowerDVD it would work on my HTPC and it does. I've not purchased the ap yet because i dont want to spend money until i have a permanent internal combo drive. But last night, i fired things up... really to make sure it still worked after some other changes... and it told me that i needed to download a patch to "insure future compatibility" i said... "no not now" and so it kicked me in the teeth repeatedly and said mean things about my mother until i downloaded their 100mb "patch" after that came down and i installed it i found that my free king kong hd-dvd chugged horribly and no longer had surround sound. I thought that it was something else that i had done to the PC but eventually determined that it was the power dvd patch. So i removed it all and reinstalled an old version, and quickly disabled the "check for updates" feature. Seems to work again now. I'm not sure which versions these were but i can attest to the fact that the newer version lacks a spdif out option.
I used to *hate* the intervideo people years ago but it seems like these jokers may be even worse.
Since you have not spent the $ yet I suggest you not do so.
It is probably easier to get high quality HD DVD output using the Japanese ArcSoft demo software than to struggle through the PDVDU/nVidia fiasco.
When I finally got it working, I not only had a PDVDU solution that produces judder and horizontal banding, my HDTV and overall MCE experience has declined with the use of the required nVidia drivers and PDVD MPEG2 decoder.
My plan is to switch to the ArcSoft software as soon as it is available in english; if it had been available when I got my 360 AO I would have used it rather than PDVDU. Hopefully MS or someone will release a fully integrated MCE HD DVD solution that actually works.
BMELVIN
10-12-07, 02:45 PM
I have the older 2910 build - Do I have to install the 3410.a version first then install the 3319 patch over top of the 3410 version? Or can I just directly install the 3319 over the older 2910 build version. Or do I have to un install the old version 2910 and treat the 3319 as a brand new full version?
I am confused?:confused:
arfster
10-12-07, 03:01 PM
Just install the newest one - these "patches" actually just completely uninstall what yoyu have there before, and rewrite everything new.
BMELVIN
10-12-07, 03:10 PM
Just install the newest one - these "patches" actually just completely uninstall what yoyu have there before, and rewrite everything new.
OK so all I need to do is install the 3319 version and it will auotmatically un install my old version and intall the new?
salacious
10-12-07, 03:59 PM
OK so all I need to do is install the 3319 version and it will auotmatically un install my old version and intall the new?
These patches require that you already have PowerDVD Ultra installed. If you don't the installation will fail. When it does install it will remove the current build for you.
SPDIF works on my machine with build 3319. My machine is running Vista Home Premium with a NVidia 8500GT (drivers 163.69) with Realtek ALC-882 onboard audio (drivers 1.78). I still can't turn hardware acceleration off, I think the last build which that worked on was 2911
I am by no means an expert in any of this but it sure sounds like you're describing the exact same thing i saw with their new version. The latest version removed spdif so my only audio option was AAC and when i tried switching to higher and higher numbers of AAC channels the movies were randomly unplayable. They'd hit scenes where it turned into a slide show and i never had anything like that before the upgrade. I removed the latest version to get spdif back and now it works perfectly again.
edit: I'm looking at a 2400pro right now, does hw accel work for vc1 in pdvd?
CCDAstro
10-13-07, 12:54 AM
FYI, I just got a new link from customer service and it shows 3319a. The one that I downloaded this PM in response to the program dialog was 3319....
Getting late so will try it tomorrow....
SPIDF works on my XP with an external Soundblaster USB card and 3319.0
BMELVIN
10-15-07, 12:07 PM
I have tried downloading the latest version 3410a and the 3310 link and both are giving me an error code under my intallation wizard shield error 1628 "" failed to complete installation "" . My software is Vista 32bit. I have tried saving the program and then running it and then just straight running the program. Any idea what the problem is? And what to do next?
I have tried downloading the latest version 3410a and the 3310 link and both are giving me an error code under my intallation wizard shield error 1628 "" failed to complete installation "" . My software is Vista 32bit. I have tried saving the program and then running it and then just straight running the program. Any idea what the problem is? And what to do next?
If you are downloading the patch, I think you need a previous version of PowerDVD already installed IIRC. Although you would think PowerDVD would provide a specific error message if that was the case. Not sure if this is your problem though.
PowerDVD Ultra shows the last three items (not in use), I'm especially worried about the DirectX VA, is this normal? I have Vista 32bit Ultimate.
Thanks,
Tom
Hardware Information:
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 FX-60 Dual Core Processor running at 2613 MHz
3DNow! Technology: In Use
Enhanced 3DNow! Technology: In Use
3DNow! Professional Technology: In Use
IA MMX Technology: In Use
IA Streaming SIMD Extensions: In Use
IA SSE 2: In Use
Video Accelerator: DirectX VA (not in use)
Multispeaker Audio Device: Speakers (Auzen X-Meridian 7.1) (not in use)
SPDIF Output Device: Speakers (Auzen X-Meridian 7.1) (not in use)
This is showing that info while playing a video?
This is showing that info while playing a video?
Well, I'm not sure. I am having problems and looking for something obvious. Sunday I bought a Radeon HD 2600XT to bring everything up compliance. Well, I had a dissapointing experiance, I would either get a green screen or it would play for a few minutes and then crap out. I had the new 7.10 Catalyst installed but just couldn't get it to work properly. Today I took the card back for a refund, basically it didn't perform as well under normal operation as the ATI X850XT I took out, that was the deal breaker. So now I'm trying to figure out which Nvidia card to buy? I would like to get into the 8800 series because of more ram than the 256 that the 8600 has, but reading that the 8800's don't have the best HD? What should I get that will be best for HD in my PC?
Back to the original question, does your DirectX show (not in use) either playing or not playing? I can't check mine until I get another vid card,
Thanks,
Tom
arfster
10-15-07, 10:33 PM
Back to the original question, does your DirectX show (not in use) either playing or not playing?
It shows in use if it's accelerated. If you're using a 2600XT with 7.10, mpeg2 HD no longer accelerates. Anything else should.
It shows in use if it's accelerated. If you're using a 2600XT with 7.10, mpeg2 HD no longer accelerates. Anything else should.
Ok - so can I assume that this should only be checked while a movie is playing?
Thanks
Geronimo.USMC
10-15-07, 11:53 PM
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/10/08/powerdvd_ultra_audio_downsampling_explained/1
one_2go
10-16-07, 07:05 AM
I find the patch distribution from Cyberlink for PDVD 7 Ultra a bit difficult. for example the patch 3319 version is no where to be found and from the download site the only one for Ultra is 3104a. For the latest patch version 3410a it states on the site Ultra users do not download this patch.
Anyone got an idea what the latest version & patch is for Ultra?
Thanks
Rob_Quads
10-16-07, 07:19 AM
I am running PowerDVD version 3104a on a system with a CMI8768 based sound card.
Playing DD plays fine coming through the SPDIF optical output of the sound card but if I am playing a TrueHD or Uncompressed PCM disc all I am getting out of the card via analogue is the front left and right channels.
I have tried setting both PowerDVD and Xear 3D to 6 channel analog sound but all I get is 2 channels.
Is there a trick to gettting PowerDVD to output 6 channel analogue?
originalsnuffy
10-16-07, 07:49 AM
Rob--
Take a look at your corresponding settings within Windows itself.
one_2go
10-16-07, 08:13 AM
I am running PowerDVD version 3104a on a system with a CMI8768 based sound card.
Playing DD plays fine coming through the SPDIF optical output of the sound card but if I am playing a TrueHD or Uncompressed PCM disc all I am getting out of the card via analogue is the front left and right channels.
Is there a trick to getting PowerDVD to output 6 channel analogue?
The only way I have gotten this to work is using the MOBO HD decoder and connecting the MOBO analogue sound outputs to my receiver 6 channel input. I have 3 cables that are 3.5 mm jack on one end and dual RCA jacks on the other.
This forum has a few threads that discuss how to get the HD audio of the HTPC into a receiver/Amp.
I find the patch distribution from Cyberlink for PDVD 7 Ultra a bit difficult. for example the patch 3319 version is no where to be found and from the download site the only one for Ultra is 3104a. For the latest patch version 3410a it states on the site Ultra users do not download this patch.
Anyone got an idea what the latest version & patch is for Ultra?
Thanks
It seems 3104a.1 is the latest publicly released patch for Ultra, while 3319 (or perhaps 3319a???) is the latest "hidden" patch. I can only guess that Cyberlink hides many of their patches because they are only beta-quality. However, their public releases are obviously only beta-quality as well, and we have the honor of paying them about a hundred bucks to be their testers. Cyberlink is a bad company, but their product PDVDUltra is currently the least-lame playback option for full-featured HD-DVD and bD. It is sad.
CCDAstro
10-16-07, 11:00 AM
BTW, as of last Friday the patch that CS was sending links to was 3319a....
I have yet to try it as so far the 3319 works - although I have not tired it with one of the new Blu-Ray titles.
BTW, as of last Friday the patch that CS was sending links to was 3319a....
I have yet to try it as so far the 3319 works - although I have not tired it with one of the new Blu-Ray titles.
I am not sure which version of 3319 that I tried, but PowerDVD would not play with anything but a green screen after my system went to sleep and was restored. I had to reboot to playback again.d
Also, Playback took about 20 seconds longer to start playing anything HDM.
Vista32 System restore did not work to restore. I had to uninstall, find an old version full install, update. It took at least an hour to recover.
I suspect this is why these versions have not been released.
- Rich
I don't believe it it actually played! Even though it still breaks VC-1 on MPC with the 16fps bug it's still a crappy player.;)
Tried to play Transformers with PDVD 3319 and it doesnt get pass the web loading screen. Anybody have a link for 3319a (sent e-mail to cyberlink support but still no answer).
Tried to play Transformers with PDVD 3319 and it doesnt get pass the web loading screen. Anybody have a link for 3319a (sent e-mail to cyberlink support but still no answer).
Edit:Sorry I was fiddiling with the DT2 codec and for some odd reason the Arcsoft update launched in MPC, I forget which codec it actually was sorry for the lack of memory on my part.
Funny thing when I launched MPC it was using Arcsoft web update, it seems Acrsofts codecs get a little confused which player it's in. So just make sure you have auto update activated in DT2 and both players will play the movie. AnyDVD is always good to have even though you are HDCP compliant doesn't mean all your disks will play.
CCDAstro
10-16-07, 06:42 PM
Funny thing when I launched PDVD it was using Arcsoft web update
Now that is just plain odd. Are the two companies related?
I was gonna look at the new LG BH200 set top combo tomorrow (if they are in stock here) and see if I can get them to drop in one of the discs in question. I wonder if they will play in a just released set top? I bet not.
Of course, this is all the fault of those buttholes in Hollywood. Not just greedy but incompetent as well.
Anyone getting slight freezing, could be the DL transition, with the 360 add-on and Ultra software?
I've asked this before but I assumed a software update would have resolved it but now it's becoming a bit annoying.
Thanks in advance!
LIP
Jim HTPC
10-16-07, 07:09 PM
Tried to play Transformers with PDVD 3319 and it doesnt get pass the web loading screen. Anybody have a link for 3319a (sent e-mail to cyberlink support but still no answer).
I have 3319 and I get the same thing
Anyone getting slight freezing, could be the DL transition, with the 360 add-on and Ultra software?
I've asked this before but I assumed a software update would have resolved it but now it's becoming a bit annoying.
Thanks in advance!
LIP
Yes, even on movies stored on HDDs on my server. Just a slight hitch. It seems to be at the layer change.
Well as posted some are getting playback, with the 3319 update but I don't know if they have DT2 installed. Even though DT2 plays the file it plays very poor. PDVD is playing this title perfect on my Tosh with FS off @120Hz 24fps 5:5 in the TV menu. Also as I mentioned in an earlier post ArcSoft needs to work on their aliasing so in this one rare moment in space & time PDVD is the better player even though it breaks PB of MPC VC-1.
I have 3319 and I get the same thing
In another thread ncinsguy mentioned disconnecting the internet connection. I did that and the Transformer disc now works.
I'll DC the connection because PDVD just quit... I mean just quit and I was back to my DT:confused: OH Yea Cybercrap player!!:D Forgot I was using it space & time moment:eek:
Yes, even on movies stored on HDDs on my server. Just a slight hitch. It seems to be at the layer change.
Thanks!
I guess it's an Ultra bug then...it's not huge but on some movies it's a bit of a pain as the delay is actually over a second...
I still like the convenience of the addon with the HTCP as opposed to a standalone unit.
Regards,
LIP
PowerDVD Ultra shows the last three items (not in use), I'm especially worried about the DirectX VA, is this normal? I have Vista 32bit Ultimate.
Thanks,
Tom
Hardware Information:
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 FX-60 Dual Core Processor running at 2613 MHz
3DNow! Technology: In Use
Enhanced 3DNow! Technology: In Use
3DNow! Professional Technology: In Use
IA MMX Technology: In Use
IA Streaming SIMD Extensions: In Use
IA SSE 2: In Use
Video Accelerator: DirectX VA (not in use)
Multispeaker Audio Device: Speakers (Auzen X-Meridian 7.1) (not in use)
SPDIF Output Device: Speakers (Auzen X-Meridian 7.1) (not in use)
Just installed the 3319 patch and I'm seeing the same thing, my audio card (Revo 7.1) is "not in use" and I can't get any audio via analog or SPDIF. When a movie is playing, I have no audio tab when I bring up the config screen. Without a movie running, I can select the output method, but that doesn't help once the movie starts. Tried with both a new HDDVD (Transformers) and Blu-Ray ripped to my hard drive.
Here is what the update splash screen looks like:
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o65/freedombikesusa/DSC00955.jpg
Now when I first plopped the disk in I launched DT2 first and PDVD wasn't even updated I was still using 3104.0 after the update it played just fine in PDVD but breaks VC-1 in MPC XP.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o65/freedombikesusa/opt.jpg
Edit: Sorry for the poor photos my Sony Cybershot is acting weird anybody know what's causing the bend FX??.
Jim HTPC
10-16-07, 10:03 PM
In another thread ncinsguy mentioned disconnecting the internet connection. I did that and the Transformer disc now works.
Thanks. I told Symantec to block all access to the internet for PowerDVD. Now it plays just fine. WOW! What an excellent soundtrack. Probably the first DD I liked.
A definite MUST BUY - TRANSFORMERS on HD DVD!!!
talon95
10-16-07, 10:19 PM
Yea, I get some odd web update screen when the Transformers disk first starts playing. I just hit cancel and it goes on and loads the menu.
HELP!!!!
Made the mistake of updating Ultra as it stated I had to when I started Ultra...now I have no sound on any of my HD-DVD's...
I'm only using onboard sound (nvidia mboard) and an analog output...
LIP
Is there a way to integrate PowerDVD Ultra into Vista Media Center? I just ordered a combo Blu-ray/HD-DVD drive and I want to use it with the media center interface instead of the PowerDVD player. Is that possible?
HELP!!!!
Made the mistake of updating Ultra as it stated I had to when I started Ultra...now I have no sound on any of my HD-DVD's...
I'm only using onboard sound (nvidia mboard) and an analog output...
LIP
Update:
Now I went back to an older version but PDVD tries to force me to update the software with transformers HD-DVD...other HD-DVD's work and play fine...the problem is if I upgrade, I lose audio on all HD-DVD's!!!
Hopefully someone can help.
Thanks.
LIP
BigTony
10-16-07, 11:38 PM
Is there a way to integrate PowerDVD Ultra into Vista Media Center? I just ordered a combo Blu-ray/HD-DVD drive and I want to use it with the media center interface instead of the PowerDVD player. Is that possible?
Kaido,
what is the link for combo blu-ray/hd-dvd drive you ordered?
Kaido,
what is the link for combo blu-ray/hd-dvd drive you ordered?
Funny you should ask :D It just became available - got it $282.27 shipped, be sure to choose Canada-US shipping for $9.99 (not the default $30 shipping option) and to remove the $8 insurance:
http://www.ncixus.com/products/26553/GGC-H20N%2FL/LG%20Electronics/
Update:
Now I went back to an older version but PDVD tries to force me to update the software with transformers HD-DVD...other HD-DVD's work and play fine...the problem is if I upgrade, I lose audio on all HD-DVD's!!!
Hopefully someone can help.
Thanks.
LIP
Update 2:
Installed the update again and boom...sound is back...very strange...
LIP
Anyone get the web update to work with transformers? For me it just sits there for ever....
LIP
Just installed the 3319 patch and I'm seeing the same thing, my audio card (Revo 7.1) is "not in use" and I can't get any audio via analog or SPDIF. When a movie is playing, I have no audio tab when I bring up the config screen. Without a movie running, I can select the output method, but that doesn't help once the movie starts. Tried with both a new HDDVD (Transformers) and Blu-Ray ripped to my hard drive.
I had the same problem so I ended up going to an XP restore point from yesterday, updating the software again and now the sound is back...very strange...
Also strange is that with transformers it forced me to do the update or it wouldn't play...
LIP
Anyone get the web update to work with transformers? For me it just sits there for ever....
LIP
No... loaded 3319a and it didnt work any better then 3319. Only way to play it so far is to not have internet connection enable. I just temp disable network connection for Transformers.
Rathbone
10-17-07, 03:29 AM
Funny thing when I launched PDVD it was using Arcsoft web update, it seems Acrsofts codecs get a little confused which player it's in. So just make sure you have auto update activated in DT2 and both players will play the movie. AnyDVD is always good to have even though you are HDCP compliant doesn't mean all your disks will play.
Could you please give us a screenshot of the japanese version where to find Auto Update in DT2?
talon95
10-17-07, 06:30 AM
No... loaded 3319a and it didnt work any better then 3319. Only way to play it so far is to not have internet connection enable. I just temp disable network connection for Transformers.
Hitting "enter" on the keyboard doesn't work?? Works every time for me with my internet connection active.
Has anyone experienced a problem similar to this?
I play an HD DVD file using Cyberlink, and after about 10 seconds, my computer reboots... I can play the HD DVDs fine in MPC, but would prefer Cyberlink because I can actually get navigation...
It's happened with all versions of Cyberlink PowerDVD I've tried... it can't be heat related, but no other CPU-intensive application reboots my computer!
Tested using Planet Earth and Hot Fuzz
originalsnuffy
10-17-07, 09:05 AM
I used to have Cyberlink PowerDVD crashes all the time under Vista. And the crashes were nasty...very long reboots, often invoking chkdsk.
They were usually due to the copy protection handshaking inherent in both Blu-ray and HD DVD. A combination of finding a stable video driver (in my case, ATI 7.10) and ripping the files to the hard drive worked. I do not like the idea of ripping my discs to the drive in order to play the movie (slow and inconvenient, to say the least). But it does allow the HTPC to in fact function as a...HTPC.
I used to have Cyberlink PowerDVD crashes all the time under Vista. And the crashes were nasty...very long reboots, often invoking chkdsk.
They were usually due to the copy protection handshaking inherent in both Blu-ray and HD DVD. A combination of finding a stable video driver (in my case, ATI 7.10) and ripping the files to the hard drive worked. I do not like the idea of ripping my discs to the drive in order to play the movie (slow and inconvenient, to say the least). But it does allow the HTPC to in fact function as a...HTPC.
It's a video driver issue?
I'm using Catalysts 7.9 - will try 7.10 later today.
The crashes don't occur in MPC though!
And I'm playing the HD DVD as a file on my hard drive, not from the ROM.
Hitting "enter" on the keyboard doesn't work?? Works every time for me with my internet connection active.
Thanks, that works....now I feel real stupid for not trying that :o.
mkloharry
10-17-07, 12:26 PM
Update 2:
Installed the update again and boom...sound is back...very strange...
LIP
I had the same problem after the update, no spif for any program. I installed 3401a again, then I had spif output. Then I applied the Transformer patch again spif works, watching transformers right now with spif 5.1 All my other programs that use spif also are works now too. Don't ask don't tell. Strange. I hope Arcsoft digital theater goes on sale for the USA soon. It plays Transformers just fine, but 5.1 is disabled on the demo.:confused:
sigma957
10-17-07, 01:13 PM
I'm confused after reading all of these posts. I'm currently at 3104a and want to play new discs (28 Weeks Later and Transformers). I'm getting the "critical component of the player requires periodic updates" message. What is the proper procedure to upgrade and not lose spdif?
Rathbone
10-17-07, 03:37 PM
I'm confused after reading all of these posts. I'm currently at 3104a and want to play new discs (28 Weeks Later and Transformers). I'm getting the "critical component of the player requires periodic updates" message. What is the proper procedure to upgrade and not lose spdif?
28 weeks later works with 3319, you have to update. 3104a didn't work for me with this title.
CCDAstro
10-17-07, 06:27 PM
Just tried 3319 and Transformers and everything worked, including SPIDF. Only one short glitch near the middle, probably a layer...
Network disabled and external Creative USB soundcard.
Surf's Up still does not play at all but DOES play on the ArcSoft demo.
I am tired of this PC crap and am gonna get a combo player once the LG BH200 shows up, probably next week. Then the PC will be for wide screen games as God intended! <g>
scottb4u
10-17-07, 08:09 PM
I've done the upgrade but I understand there is another upgrade 3314.1 or 3314.a and that will play "Surfs Up". But my 3314 does not play it...
Anyone have a link? PM me!
Has anyone got PDVD to play any of the web enabled HD-DVD content on any movie?
LIP
sigma957
10-18-07, 02:52 AM
28 weeks later works with 3319, you have to update. 3104a didn't work for me with this title.OK, so I installed the new patch, and yes, 28 Weeks Later plays, but like others, I get no audio. I reinstalled the 3104 patch and audio came back (but of course I can't play 28 Weeks Later). I don't know how people are getting the latest patch to work without losing audio, but it's a total bust for me. I guess I just stay at 3104 and wait for the next patch to hopefully fix the audio issue. Who develops software like this and stays in business...
mefromfl
10-18-07, 05:38 AM
ok i'm so confuse, can someone please tell me what i need to install for powerdvd to play .x264?
Rathbone
10-18-07, 06:02 AM
I find this whole patch discussion quite confusing. Can we make a list of all the patches for PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 please. I think some people are posting patches that don't exist imho (e.g. 3401 instead 3104)
I know of:
2605
2605n
2911
3104a
3104a.1
3304
3319
3319a
Fred Seger
10-18-07, 12:53 PM
I'd been having a audio problems with Powerdvd. They seemed to get worse with each update. I have an x-plosion card set to dts interative. Running vista 32. I had powerdvd set to 6 channel output. First my regular dvd's stopped working (audio and sound). (That's alright cause they playback fine in zoomplayer and MCE). Not only would the sound not work. It would prevent audio from anything until I logout of windows. I read in this thread that going analog might fixed other problems, so I tried that. It worked, but not well because bass management, speaker levels, etc.. are not sufficient in the auzentech drivers, and my receiver doesn't doesn't process the multi-channel input. So I went back to dts interactive.
Then I changed the speaker setup in powerdvd to 8 channels and everything works fine.
Thought I'd share what fixed my problem in case other people have the same problem and search this thread.
Morphx2
10-18-07, 01:38 PM
I am getting horrible fps performance or something is wrong.
Every movie I try it goes EXTREMELY slow and choppy. I am using an HD-DVD on my 360 drive connected to my computer.
I tried 2 different computers and the same thing. I tried Superman 2, transformers, and the hulk and each movie is the same thing. :-\
one computer is my gaming one with an 8800 640 meg graphic card and the other is an onboard geforce 6150.
using the arcsoft trial in japanese, it worked flawlessly..but nothing is working in powerdvd
Has anyone experienced a problem similar to this?
I play an HD DVD file using Cyberlink, and after about 10 seconds, my computer reboots... I can play the HD DVDs fine in MPC, but would prefer Cyberlink because I can actually get navigation...
It's happened with all versions of Cyberlink PowerDVD I've tried... it can't be heat related, but no other CPU-intensive application reboots my computer!
Tested using Planet Earth and Hot Fuzz
No one else has this problem?
It's highly annoying and makes using PowerDVD impossible... will test to see if it occurs with MKV, avi, or MPEG files.
Cyberlink sent me a link to download 3319a, but still no luck. The Transformers HDDVD plays, but no audio. I also get no audio on any other disc I try to play as well as ripped discs on the hard drive. I have a transport stream of a college football game that does play with audio, however.
Could you please give us a screenshot of the japanese version where to find Auto Update in DT2?
I can't cap the screen but if you right click in the player where it says Arcsoft it's the first one in the drop down menu. Actually if you go to the folder everything is in english there is an update .exe if you launch that in the folder it will bring up the update screen. Then you will know what it looks like in the drop menu.
I find this whole patch discussion quite confusing. Can we make a list of all the patches for PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 please. I think some people are posting patches that don't exist imho (e.g. 3401 instead 3104)
I know of:
2605
2605n
2911
3104a
3104a.1
3304
3319
3319a
Well I also noticed now my retail version now updates straight to 3319 patch, without having to cut off chicken heads and dance the bonfire. But this patch causes the PC to hard lock never had that problem before, re imaged back to 3104, but this time I registered the VC-1 decoder and just dumped the player completely, good riddance PDVD!
Regards.
Why do people use these beta fixes then complain they screw up their computers?
The latest official release is 3104a.1
AngelEyes
10-19-07, 03:37 AM
Why do people use these beta fixes then complain they screw up their computers?
The latest official release is 3104a.1
For our amusement? :D
Rathbone
10-19-07, 05:31 AM
Why do people use these beta fixes then complain they screw up their computers?
The latest official release is 3104a.1
Maybe we want to watch our BD+ and MKV4 movies? ;)
Maybe we want to watch our BD+ and MKV4 movies? ;)
Forget the movie. We just want to watch BD+ and MKV4 turn our screen blank.
- Rich
meyer2 Why do people use these beta fixes then complain they screw up their computers?
The latest official release is 3104a.1
There's an official patch? Wow :eek: LMAO!!
lsdavinci
10-19-07, 11:39 AM
BTW, forgot to mention that Transformers works fine on 3319. I disabled the networking as recommended and voila! It rocks! both PQ & AQ!!!
I will try Surf's Up this weekend...
the thing that ticks me off is the don't post what they actually fix/break with the patch notes.
sigma957
10-19-07, 12:09 PM
Why do people use these beta fixes then complain they screw up their computers?
The latest official release is 3104a.1
If you try to play one of the new discs and click "Yes" on the "critical component of the player requires periodic updates... would you like to update now?" message, it takes you to a web page that downloads the 3319 update. There is no mention of it being a "beta" patch. I would call that an official release.
sigma957
10-19-07, 12:26 PM
People who are running the latest patch (that plays Transformers, etc.) and are NOT having audio trouble, what OS and sound card are you running?
I am running XP with a Revolution 7.1 and get no audio whatsoever on any disc with the latest patch. In fact, if I play a disc and bring up the settings screen, there is no "audio" tab.
People who are running the latest patch (that plays Transformers, etc.) and are NOT having audio trouble, what OS and sound card are you running?
I am running XP with a Revolution 7.1 and get no audio whatsoever on any disc with the latest patch. In fact, if I play a disc and bring up the settings screen, there is no "audio" tab.
You will have to do the Cyber Cha Cha, first you need two chicken heads a bonfire and some singing chants.:D But seriously just keep un/installing until you get your results, some have had to do it more than a few times good luck!
I'm using XP, even though I get sound from cyber crappy player spdif/5.1 DD the sound starts to lose sync, and then the player will either just quit or hard lock the PC. I just looped P1 for 5hrs in MPC and my rig is solid as far as stability. It's these crappy decoder engines that need to be addressed. As stated I'm done with PDVD it's just me and Anydvd and DT2 + MPC + VLC. When DT2's decengine.dll gets addressed in the N. American retail version this player should be the "Bomb Diggity";)
Jim HTPC
10-19-07, 01:44 PM
I am using Windows Xp Pro SP2, MSI 8600 GTS video with latest beta drivers, M-Audio Revo 7.1 using coax out (set to digital in the control panel & version 1028 drivers).
Then power up PDVD, go to settings and select SPDIF under the audio tab. Then start the movie. Played DD+ just fine for Transformers.
Oh PDVD version is 3319 (downloaded automatically from website) when I popped the Transformer disc in. Once it was installed, I had to tell Cyberlink to not have access to the internet to avoid the EVO file showing the downloading graphics.... it just went straight to the movie.
it worked flawlessly..but nothing is working in powerdvd
Just reinstall, thats all you can do anything over the 3104.0 patch is a fps bug in Vista it's 20fps in XP it's 16fps. Also as I had mentioned before PDVD's VC-1 decoder sees all Blu-ray/HD DVD titles as DVD disks at 720x480 resolutions when viewing ReClock's property's.:confused:
Your best bet is to go back to your retail copy and just install either 2911 and either update it to anything prior to 3104.a/3319 and use AnyDVD for now with DT2 and ReClock.
sigma957
10-19-07, 02:09 PM
Your best bet is to go back to your retail copy and just install either 2911 and either update it to anything prior to 3104.a/3319 and use AnyDVD for now with DT2 and ReClock.I don't think AnyDVD works with the newer discs yet.
XxDeadlyxX
10-19-07, 08:28 PM
Far out how long do we have to wait for the Spider-Man movies to play :/
CCDAstro
10-19-07, 10:00 PM
Far out how long do we have to wait for the Spider-Man movies to play :/
Until the new combo players are released in a few weeks and we can have the privilege of spending $1000......
I am getting horrible fps performance or something is wrong.
Every movie I try it goes EXTREMELY slow and choppy. I am using an HD-DVD on my 360 drive connected to my computer.
With PowerDVD 7.3.2911 and 7600GS and 163.75 beta drivers in XP, I'm getting the same choppy issue in HA mode (looks like 16fps or something): switch to software decode mode and all is smooth, so it's definitely something to do with the HA. If I go back to 162.18, there's much less chop and it's almost smooth, but acceleration is less (ie CPU usage is a bit higher). Interestingly, 162.18 is before the 8x00 series HA acceleration was implemented IIRC, so the problems seem to have arrived with the HA drivers.
With an 8600GT or a 8400GS, there is very little choppiness with the latest drivers, but the image is aliased as though the 24fps frames have been split into fields and then woven back in reverse field order. The 7600GS does not have the field reversal issue but has choppiness.
None of the Nvidia/PowerDVD solutions is suitable at the moment for XP.
If Arcsoft or Nero work okay, then it must be a PowerDVD issue in the way they are accessing the HA functions through the drivers. Considering the number of Nvidia driver revisions, it's perhaps not surprising Cyberlink can't keep up, especially when they have to contend with new DRM requirements too. Not defending Cyberlink, just trying to explain what might be happening.
Just reinstall, thats all you can do anything over the 3104.0 patch is a fps bug in Vista it's 20fps in XP it's 16fps. Also as I had mentioned before PDVD's VC-1 decoder sees all Blu-ray/HD DVD titles as DVD disks at 720x480 resolutions when viewing ReClock's property's.:confused:
Your best bet is to go back to your retail copy and just install either 2911 and either update it to anything prior to 3104.a/3319 and use AnyDVD for now with DT2 and ReClock.
Have just upgraded to 8600GT, PDVD 7.3.3104.a and Nvidia 163.75 beta.
VC-1 playback now smooth with no noticeable stutter; interlaced material seems to be automatically de-interlaced (so 300 "Fact or Fiction" extra now has no combing); de-interlacing controls don't seem to do anything; HA is automatically enabled; Saturation slider has no effect now; however, there is still aliasing on all material as though the frames are being split into fields and then woven back in reverse field order.
Despite the aliasing, I think this is the best HD-DVD has looked on my PC so far.
If Cyberlink can fix that damn aliasing, I think I could be happy with this setup.
Oops, spoke too soon: there seems to be an issue with the analogue audio centre channel fading in and out. Have gone back to PDVD 7.3.2911 and all is well: still no stuttering but still aliasing.
Alpha10
10-20-07, 04:05 AM
I have some good news bad news going on...
I installed the new 3319a patch and finally after nearly 10 months of complaining I can play HULK, wooohoooo
However I then put Spider-man 3 in and although it actually plays I get bad stuttering and my CPU sits at around 100% (AMD X2 4.2GHz, XP2, 2Gig RAM and ATI X1950Pro(512Mb)) :mad::mad:
pclausen
10-20-07, 08:47 AM
Hi,
I'm running 3319a under Vista Ultimate 64 on an Asus W2P notebook with a built-in HD-DVD drive and 1920x1200 display. ATI x1700 graphics, and T7200 Core 2 Duo 2GHz CPU.
Everything runs fine on the local display, but when I connect to my Denon 3808 AVR via the built-in HDMI connector, I get a "Cannot detect display connection type" shortly after the studio logo plays (I do get sound out the HDMI via the receiver) and then PowerDVD exists.
My notebook is fully HDCP compliant, as is my Denon 3808, as well as the display (Panasonic 65" 9UK plasma.) I haven't tried connecting directly to the display, but there would be no point as the only way to get digital audio out of my notebook is via the HDMI connector.
It doesn't matter if I mirror, extend, or switch to the external display for my desktop. I get the same message each time. The only way I can get a HD-DVD to play is when I disconnect the HDMI cable from my notebook.
I this a known limitation of PowerDVD? (no support for notebooks connected to external displays, even if everything in the video path is HDCP compliant)
Thanks!
Peter
Morphx2
10-20-07, 03:05 PM
Ug, I am getting the green screen using powerdvd now. It was working fine and I did nothing to it :(
WTF! A 99 MB patch just to play the latest movies. What the hell are they (and by THEY I mean everyone involved except the user) thinking! The only ones for whom it is hard is us the freaking users who have HDCP-compliant machines. I have AnyDVD, but it's not updated yet. And all this just makes me glad I can copy movies to my HDD.
Irish_Comer
10-20-07, 05:20 PM
I've skimmed through the last few pages of this thread but I' found no mention of a problem with the latest patch and reclock. I have video and sound if I disable reclock, but no sound if I enable it. Has anyone else experienced this problem.
I'm running Windows XP, with 7XXX Nvidia and M-Audio revolution sound card.
WTF! A 99 MB patch just to play the latest movies. What the hell are they (and by THEY I mean everyone involved except the user) thinking! The only ones for whom it is hard is us the freaking users who have HDCP-compliant machines. I have AnyDVD, but it's not updated yet. And all this just makes me glad I can copy movies to my HDD.
The patch actually removes any old versions of PDVD and then loads a complete updated version. You will have to have an old version installed before the patch will work. Also you will prob have to re-enter the serial number again after its installs.
Morphx2
10-21-07, 02:18 AM
Any idea how I can get rid of the green screen when playing hd-dvd's? I have an 8400gs nvidia card. Maybe a certain driver or something?
I've skimmed through the last few pages of this thread but I' found no mention of a problem with the latest patch and reclock. I have video and sound if I disable reclock, but no sound if I enable it. Has anyone else experienced this problem.
Same here, perhaps it´s a kind of copy protecion of the audio stream. This is really to bad, because without reclock in XP there will be never a jouder free playback.
Any idea how I can get rid of the green screen when playing hd-dvd's? I have an 8400gs nvidia card. Maybe a certain driver or something?
I was able to play HD-DVD with an 8400GS, PowerDVD 7.3.2911 and 163.71 drivers with HA enabled under XP (although the image is aliased).
The only time I have seen a green screen is when I attempted to play an evo off an HD-DVD in a Xbox 360 add-on across a network in MPC. I updated AnyDVD HD on the PC the Xbox 360 add-on was connected to and that cured the green screen. I have no idea what actually creates the green screen effect.
I have noticed that hardware acceleration seems to be one of the evils the end user is grappling with. Have you tried playing a HD-DVD in software decode mode? I know the video will probably be a complete slideshow for a slow CPU, but it might rule out the source or how the source is being accessed as the problem. This was how I determined my green screen problem was related to AnyDVD HD version issues.
If playing an HD-DVD in PowerDVD in software decode mode, a trick to reduce CPU usage by half is to set Video->Advanced->Video Quality=Normal. The image will likely be very aliased, but it's still watchable.
mefromfl
10-21-07, 06:44 AM
What codecs are you guys installing to play .mvk files on powerdvd?
What codecs are you guys installing to play .mvk files on powerdvd?
PowerDVD anecdotally has a problem with certain encode parameters that may be used in X.264 mkv files, if their decoder is used, resulting in 16fps or 20fps playback of 24fps source.
Consequently I only use PowerDVD for commercial VC-1 and AVC HD playback.
For film source HDTV I use dscaler IVTC with MPC and I use CoreAVC for H.264 mkv file playback also with MPC as front end. Haven't hit on a decoder/player combination yet for interlaced mpeg2 HDTV.
sigma957
10-21-07, 11:31 AM
I've skimmed through the last few pages of this thread but I' found no mention of a problem with the latest patch and reclock. I have video and sound if I disable reclock, but no sound if I enable it. Has anyone else experienced this problem.
I'm running Windows XP, with 7XXX Nvidia and M-Audio revolution sound card.Yes, that's it. Disabling reclock solved my audio problems with the new patch. So now I can play the new discs, but I have to put up with slight micro-stutters...
Yes, that's it. Disabling reclock solved my audio problems with the new patch. So now I can play the new discs, but I have to put up with slight micro-stutters...
Aha! Same here....didn't even think of looking at reclock.
johnny124
10-21-07, 04:12 PM
Having a bit of a powerdvd problem - tried Transformers hd-dvd, but got very choppy playback. Powerdvd asked to update, so I allowed it, and then I updated my video drivers also (nvidia 7600 GS, gigabyte branded). However, now when I play anything in powerdvd the picture is zoomed in, and I get only approx. 1/4 of the screen showing (even in fullscreen)...I've gone through all the options I can find but can't see how to resolve this. Have even installed a previous version of powerdvd but same problem. Only thing that seems to fix it is rolling my video driver back, but I don't really want to do this if I can avoid it.
Does anybody have any ideas? :)
Irish_Comer
10-21-07, 04:23 PM
Same here, perhaps it´s a kind of copy protecion of the audio stream. This is really to bad, because without reclock in XP there will be never a jouder free playback.
I set up a dual boot on my PC with XP and Vista. First problem, no bloody Vista drivers yet for the MAudio Revolution 7.1:mad:. Used the onboard sound on my Asus P5B motherboard with SPDIF. I still have the same micro stutter every 10 seconds or so that I have with XP without reclock.:confused:
How can the people behind these formats really expect them to ever be taken on by Joe Public?:(
Having a bit of a powerdvd problem - tried Transformers hd-dvd, but got very choppy playback. Powerdvd asked to update, so I allowed it, and then I updated my video drivers also (nvidia 7600 GS, gigabyte branded). However, now when I play anything in powerdvd the picture is zoomed in, and I get only approx. 1/4 of the screen showing (even in fullscreen)...I've gone through all the options I can find but can't see how to resolve this. Have even installed a previous version of powerdvd but same problem. Only thing that seems to fix it is rolling my video driver back, but I don't really want to do this if I can avoid it.
PowerDVD 7.3.3319 seems to windowbox video for many Nvidia graphics cards with the latest drivers. PDVD 7.3.3104 doesn't have the windowboxing issue with 163.75 beta drivers, but I'm not sure if it will play Transformers.
I have tried a 7600GS with PDVD 7.3.2911 and Nvidia 162.18 and it provides the best PQ I have seen (because 8600GT, 8400GS alias the image), but playback seems to be at a slightly reduced rate (ie has a sort of flicker slideshow effect).
I've tried the latest drivers, but the slideshow effect seems to get worse the newer the driver is.
I would like to try earlier drivers, but my graphics card is not recognised before 158.22, or PowerDVD says the drivers are not adequate: maybe I can find some between 158 and 162 that work.
I noticed that with 162.18, CPU usage is higher than with newer drivers, but slideshow effect is less: seems to me that there is some interplay between PowerDVD and driver versions that impacts adversely on the hardware acceleration.
What are the earliest drivers that will work with your 7600GS and PowerDVD?
Transformers uses the newer AACS v4 I believe, so this may force a particular PowerDVD version and consequently you might have to use earlier drivers.
I haven't tried it yet, but can you get better results with software decoding only in PowerDVD?
No one has any ideas what could be causing PowerDVD to reboot my computer? At 720p, playing an HD DVD is fine... no problems... At 1080p, playing an HD DVD reboots the computer after about 10 seconds.
I tried three versions of PowerDVD, and three different Catalyst driver sets...
So frustrating... makes PowerDVD completely unusable.
I'm playing the HD DVD files off my hard drive - do I enable/disable hardware acceleration? Do I need to use AnyDVD? Does it have anything to do with HDCP and my DVI -> HDMI cable?
I had to update Power DVD to the latest (3319?) to be able to play Transformers. I have an Nvidia 8600 GTS, with 163.44 drivers if I recall correctly, in Vista x86, playing at 1920x1200. Apart from being the stupidest movie in my recent memory, with one of the stupidest scenes in any stupid movie I've seen, no major hard/software issues here. Didn't use AnyDVD as it is not updated yet for Transformers. It's the first HD-DVD I've tried yet that didn't work with AnyDVD though, and I expect it to be updated pretty soon.
So I had to play HDCP-style. Apart from the super annoying "updating some crap" screen that comes up when you start the disc, and the studio logo that comes up next, I didn't have much trouble, though a couple of times if I left the menu running, PowerDVD would just shut down, like a crash but with no error message.
And IanD, you gotta be the unluckiest Nvidia user, still having the aliasing issue. Anyone else having it still?
How can the people behind these formats really expect them to ever be taken on by Joe Public?:(
Joe Public is not using an HTPC.
CCDAstro
10-22-07, 02:14 PM
Joe Public is not using an HTPC.
But the hardware players are also having some of these problems.....
clehner
10-22-07, 02:46 PM
Specifically, afaik there are no consumer BR players that are region free, none at all!
johnny124
10-22-07, 03:09 PM
PowerDVD 7.3.3319 seems to...
Thanks for your reply Ian. When I try to use a driver from the Nvidia website I get different issues - e.g. if I use the latest (non-beta) driver, powerdvd doesn't windowbox the picture, but there is a lot of noise present - almost as though the colour palette has been dropped right down. It disappears if I use the latest driver from the gigabyte website, but that starts off the windowboxing.
Tried a couple of other drivers direct from the nvidia website and they bring different issues too (e.g. picture mostly black etc).
Are the drivers from gigabyte really tailored to my card to such a degree that standard nvidia ones shouldn't work? Or could overclocking (CPU not GPU) be causing these "noise" problems?
Thanks for your reply Ian. When I try to use a driver from the Nvidia website I get different issues - e.g. if I use the latest (non-beta) driver, powerdvd doesn't windowbox the picture, but there i