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If you've used the registry disable options, it unticks when you play, as it finds the drivers are denying acceleration. If you look in the ifno tab you'll see "dxva: not in use".
Ah cool will look out for that.
Also another thing but nothing to do with video, its got to do with the audio.
How do i find out what sound format pdvd is decoding. eg i got transformers with dd+ and want to know if its doing dd+ and not putting it down to dolby digital also want to know the bitrate if possible. Got a prelude 7.1 and want to make sure i got it setup properly.
Sorry for all the question, i just got pdvd few days ago and new to this. Hope though this is helping out someone out there :D
Just got a new innoficial patch from cyberlink support: V3119e. I was also told that they are working on a new official patch which should hopefully be released soon in order to fix problems with newly released discs.
TheMule!
Davinleeds
11-07-07, 08:33 PM
blingo, while playing a disk. right click on picture and click show information. You'll see video and audio info.
MickeyDora
11-07-07, 08:43 PM
I was also told that they are working on a new official patch which should hopefully be released soon in order to fix problems with newly released discs.
You mean the problem of the HUGE BD+ security hole? ;)
blingo, while playing a disk. right click on picture and click show information. You'll see video and audio info.
Thank you.
On AV forum someone posted saying they sent a email to Cyberlink CS and was told they are working with Pioneer to release a patch in the next few weeks. He was told this last Monday.
fyi/warning: After applying the 3319e-Patch it's no more possible to play a blueray or hd-dvd from harddisk or network share! :mad:
TheMule!
fyi/warning: After applying the 3319e-Patch it's no more possible to play a blueray or hd-dvd from harddisk or network share! :mad:
TheMule!
Thanks for the warning Mule.
fyi/warning: After applying the 3319e-Patch it's no more possible to play a blueray or hd-dvd from harddisk or network share! :mad:
TheMule!
Wow, if that's intended, what a bunch of sleazebags. I myself am having trouble with 3319 and S/PDIF passthrough, so I'll revert to 2911, since AnyDVD has been updated anyway, I should be able to play the newer movies.
fyi/warning: After applying the 3319e-Patch it's no more possible to play a blueray or hd-dvd from harddisk or network share! :mad:
Is that option removed, or does it simply not work?
This would render PDVDU unusable, based on the fact that it incorrectly reports my monitor is not HDCP-compliant. My only work-around has been to use AnyDVD, and Cyberlink already made it impossible to play a disc with AnyDVD running, so I have to rip to HDD to watch my movies.
Arcsoft, please release your player soon!
Is that option removed, or does it simply not work?
This would render PDVDU unusable, based on the fact that it incorrectly reports my monitor is not HDCP-compliant. My only work-around has been to use AnyDVD, and Cyberlink already made it impossible to play a disc with AnyDVD running, so I have to rip to HDD to watch my movies.
Arcsoft, please release your player soon!
check out the .9.6 beta - works again with pdvd on bluray
Just bought 300 on hd-dvd which has DolbyTRUE HD but when i do show information its showing MLP 5.1???? Is somthing not set right?
I have a Azutech Prelude 7.1. Am running the latest drivers off there website.
I got it connected via analog outs to my receiver.
In order to avoid missunderstandings and to be more precise (sorry for being unprecise before): even in 3319e you can choose "play media from harddisk". But it's not working anymore: When selecting a directory with a blueray content the screen flashes (seems like building up a video window) and after that powerdvd comes up with an error message. When selecting a directory from harddisk containing a hd-dvd harddisk there simply happens nothing.
So two answers are possible:
1.) Simply a bug
2.) the preparation to remove the functionality "playing content from harddisk"
By the way: Rolling back to the latest official patch version resolves these issues...
TheMule!
FLingier
11-08-07, 12:27 PM
Just bought 300 on hd-dvd which has DolbyTRUE HD but when i do show information its showing MLP 5.1???? Is somthing not set right?
I have a Azutech Prelude 7.1. Am running the latest drivers off there website.
I got it connected via analog outs to my receiver.
That is correctly displayed.
F
B Leisle
11-08-07, 12:30 PM
Is that option removed, or does it simply not work?
The option is still there, but you get an error after selecting the movie folder.
Very disturbing if true. I might accept not working from a network. But disabling hard drive playback significantly cuts into legitimate uses. Can anyone else confirm this?
We can't rule out that it might just be a problem on your system. Knowing how buggy this program can be after all. :rolleyes:
It's not his system. I received 3319e.0 from Cyberlink support 2 days ago and have the same results. Neither HD DVDs or Blu-rays playback from a HDD. I went back to 3104a.1, it's the most stable with broadest compatibility for me. I don't know if it's a bug in 3319e.0 or if it's a more ominous sign of the future supported playback from Cyberlink, but you get a popup dialog box that says a few different things. One said something like "Error, door open...." the other was something like "Internal error....". The latter dialog box leads me to believe it's a bug in the software, not Cyberlink intentionally disallowing playback from a HDD.
Help Please!
I installed the retail version of PDVD 7 Ultra and updated this to 3104a.1 from their website. This all worked pretty good except no spdif output if one selected it it would change to 2 channel stereo. A bug from what I have read and Cyberlink support says the same.
OK, yesterday I noticed the ActiveX update page and downloaded this and applied it.
Still the same except...TheaterTek now can't connect to the audio and can no longer output spdif as it was able to do before the PDVD update.
Before I do anything drastic and maybe make things worse Does Anyone Know What was messed up by the update and how to repair it???????????
Or how troubleshoot this problem.
Thanks
Rew
Is ANYONE using PowerDVD the HD/BD versions on Vista 64?
Thanks
Just bought 300 on hd-dvd which has DolbyTRUE HD but when i do show information its showing MLP 5.1???? Is somthing not set right?
I have a Azutech Prelude 7.1. Am running the latest drivers off there website.
I got it connected via analog outs to my receiver.
MLP is the lossless compression that TrueHD uses. "Meridian Lossless Packing"
btl.
MLP is the lossless compression that TrueHD uses. "Meridian Lossless Packing"
btl.
Thanks Bialio and FLingier
Was worried PDVD was trying use something rubbish, did sound good though :D
Help Please!
I installed the retail version of PDVD 7 Ultra and updated this to 3104a.1 from their website. This all worked pretty good except no spdif output if one selected it it would change to 2 channel stereo. A bug from what I have read and Cyberlink support says the same.
OK, yesterday I noticed the ActiveX update page and downloaded this and applied it.
Still the same except...TheaterTek now can't connect to the audio and can no longer output spdif as it was able to do before the PDVD update.
Before I do anything drastic and maybe make things worse Does Anyone Know What was messed up by the update and how to repair it???????????
Or how troubleshoot this problem.
I ran into the same problem with TheaterTek after installing the 3319a PowerDVD update. I reinstalled TheaterTek (need to uninstall it first) and the problem went away.
jtscribe
11-08-07, 03:02 PM
Boy, I'm starting to get nervous about my HTPC config with all of the folks who are having skips and stutters with Core 2 Duos . . .
Will my current setup be sufficient, or am I going to need to upgrade something?
I've got:
8500GT
2GB PC3200
X2 4400+ (@ 2.2GHz)
I know the 8500GT doesn't accelerate all of the codecs . . . should I look at a 2600XT?
My setup is almost identical - 8500GT, 2GB RAM, E4400 (@ 2.6GHZ).
I haven't had any picture quality issues. VC-1 has about 30% CPU, the others are in the 10-11% range.
btl.
Boy, I'm starting to get nervous about my HTPC config with all of the folks who are having skips and stutters with Core 2 Duos . . .
Will my current setup be sufficient, or am I going to need to upgrade something?
I've got:
8500GT
2GB PC3200
X2 4400+ (@ 2.2GHz)
I know the 8500GT doesn't accelerate all of the codecs . . . should I look at a 2600XT?
I am thinking the problems some are having has less to do with the actual machine and more to do with the setup.
On my htpc I am only running a amd 4400 x2 with 1 gig and a 2600xt. This setup runs theatertek with ffdshow for dvd's and power dvd for the hd stuff. This setup runs everything fine with no problems.
So you do not need a monster system, just a well setup one.
I ran into the same problem with TheaterTek after installing the 3319a PowerDVD update. I reinstalled TheaterTek (need to uninstall it first) and the problem went away.
Thanks for the info will try this tonight. This is a new clean install and would hate to loose it due to this.
Thanks again
Rew
When using PowerDVDUltra to watch the HD-DVD of 300 the info box says my audio is MLP 2.0. The TrueHD track should be 5.1, correct? I still hear sound from all the speakers but the bass disappears and the volume drops dramatically. Anyone else have a similar problem?
How are you getting the sound to your receiver?
There are settings in PowerDVD that have to match the transmission method. Best bet probably is to use the analog outs on your sound card / motherboard and then tell both windows and Cyberlink that you have 6 speakers.
btl.
antonio_car
11-08-07, 04:05 PM
Thanks for the info will try this tonight.
Same problem here.
It seems that only Nvidia audio decoder is unregistered.
You can use directshow filter manager and see if Nvidia audio decoder is registered :
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8527/nvidiaaudioon9.gif
If it is not you can use "register new file" ad reregister Nvidia audio decoder.
Antonio
I'm using the analog outs on my X-Meridian to the reciever so PowerDVD is doing all the processing. I've already designated 6 speaker output. Is the info box wrong? Does anyone else get MLP 2.0 or does yours say MLP 5.1? The DD track seems to work fine, its only when I switch audio to the MLP (TrueHD) track that the changes occur. Oddly enough I just tried my Ratatouille Blue-Ray and again the DD track works fine but when I switch to TrueHD it reads TrueHD 2.0. I still hear sound from all the speakers but the bass drops dramatically and the volume is lower as well.
Boy, I'm starting to get nervous about my HTPC config with all of the folks who are having skips and stutters with Core 2 Duos . . .
Will my current setup be sufficient, or am I going to need to upgrade something?
I've got:
8500GT
2GB PC3200
X2 4400+ (@ 2.2GHz)
I know the 8500GT doesn't accelerate all of the codecs . . . should I look at a 2600XT?
Am running a 4200 X2 and i got it set to BEST quailty. I just finished watching transformers and it ran perfect, max in BEST quailty goes upto 90-95%.
Looking back farther in this thread it seems I am not the only one getting TrueHD 2.0. Maybe this has something to do with the OEM version I got with the LG combo drive. Still can't find a solution though.
Thanks for the info will try this tonight. This is a new clean install and would hate to loose it due to this.
Thanks again
Rew
That works!!
Thanks
Rew
Looking back farther in this thread it seems I am not the only one getting TrueHD 2.0. Maybe this has something to do with the OEM version I got with the LG combo drive. Still can't find a solution though.
I think it is got to do with the OEM version. I think you have to pay abit extra to unlock all the features.
bezoar i got 300 on hd-dvd connected to a receiver via analog out. Am using a prelude and mine says MLP 5.1. The volume does still drop for me as well which i thought was strange.
Seems to say the opposite as far as I can see :-)
What those graphs do show is a 1.8ghz Core2Duo easily handling a VC1 disc, and managing h264 at around 75% CPU without acceleration. That sounds about the same as I've found. The fact yours is so dramtically different points to either a driver/OS foulup, or a hardware failure.
If you look closely at the graphs for no acceleration (the dotted line), XP is near 75%, whilst Vista is closer to 50%.
I agree that my results with C2D 2.8GHz are strange in comparison to theirs with C2D 1.8GHz.
However, unless I have missed something, the testers don't say how they disabled hardware acceleration, but they do mention it can not be disabled with the latest PowerDVD version they used for the test. I wonder what they did, because I want to do the same thing to see if that changes my result.
It's remotely possible that some acceleration was still being done, even if they thought it was disabled. However, I'm migrating to the view that it is some peculiarity of my setup that is producing the higher than expected CPU loading (maybe the PCI-E 4x is very inefficient as it is also driving the AGP socket, even though I only have a PCI-E graphics card).
Thinking about it further, it can't be the PCI-E 4x, because HA is okay and that probably has to transfer more data backwards and forwards as it shares the decoding load with the CPU: it's just software decoding with PowerDVD that is the issue. Considering I was getting PowerDVD issues with Cineplayer 4.3 audio decoder installed, I wonder if something else I have installed is conflicting somehow.
maxleung
11-08-07, 11:13 PM
IanD: It could be the difference between EVR renderer in Vista versus VMR7/Overlay in PowerDVD.
Ian, I figured out why I was getting such dramatic volume loss when switching to TrueHD. There is a setting in the PowerDVDUltra configuration panel that fixed it. Go to the Audio tab, then Advanced. You should see a Miscellaneous tab with 3 different levels of dynamic compression - Quiet, Normal, Noisy. I was preset at noisy which was providing maximum compression, switching to quiet brought everything up to normal levels.
It definitely appears my OEM version only offers TrueHD in 2 channel. I'm not sure now if I should buy the full retail version or wait until Arcsoft has their Total Media theater software out.
arfster
11-08-07, 11:42 PM
Thinking about it further, it can't be the PCI-E 4x, because HA is okay and that probably has to transfer more data backwards and forwards as it shares the decoding load with the CPU: it's just software decoding with PowerDVD that is the issue. Considering I was getting PowerDVD issues with Cineplayer 4.3 audio decoder installed, I wonder if something else I have installed is conflicting somehow.
Yeah, it's definitely not a garden variety problem - thus the suggestion of an ide/sata cable failure.
If you have any particular disks in mind, I could clock mine to 2.8ghz and give you a unaccelerated baseline.
IanD: It could be the difference between EVR renderer in Vista versus VMR7/Overlay in PowerDVD.
I thought Vista was less efficient than XP.
Probably PowerDVD is written to use DX10 and to use it on DX9 means translation overhead or dropping back to much more primitive decoding. Is this still relative for software decoding?
Ian, I figured out why I was getting such dramatic volume loss when switching to TrueHD. There is a setting in the PowerDVDUltra configuration panel that fixed it. Go to the Audio tab, then Advanced. You should see a Miscellaneous tab with 3 different levels of dynamic compression - Quiet, Normal, Noisy. I was preset at noisy which was providing maximum compression, switching to quiet brought everything up to normal levels.
It definitely appears my OEM version only offers TrueHD in 2 channel. I'm not sure now if I should buy the full retail version or wait until Arcsoft has their Total Media theater software out.
Isn't it round the other way? A noisy environment you would want greater volume to rise above the noise level, whilst in a quiet environment, you would want lower volume so you don't blast your eardrums. Has Cyberlink got the settings reversed to what they logically should be (I wouldn't be surprised)? I've always set it to quiet, thinking that would be best as that is what I have. Maybe I should try noisy and compare.
I'm not surprised the OEM is 2 channel only: I heard rumours on other threads.
Arcsoft is still a relative unknown: I couldn't get HA working under XP and software decoding was even choppier than PowerDVD.
Yeah, it's definitely not a garden variety problem - thus the suggestion of an ide/sata cable failure.
If you have any particular disks in mind, I could clock mine to 2.8ghz and give you a unaccelerated baseline.
Can't be IDE/SATA as the same issue occurs with the connected USB Xbox360 add-on, but maybe it is something to do with a common controller chipset issue (my mobo is VIA based).
Was hoping to install a different mobo this weekend, but it has a different ATX power plug than my PSU, so have to hunt an adapter and won't get to it till next week.
I really want to know why my results are so poor with software decoding in PowerDVD as it definitely provides better quality than via HA. I also suspect IVTC might actually work with software decoding and perhaps I can finally get 24fps on my 72Hz monitor: can't tell at the moment due to CPU overload.
I generally use King Kong and 300 for VC-1 and now Transformers for H.264.
King Kong and 300 are almost okay in software decode, but 300 extras are not and IME enabled is definitely not. Transformers plays, but is constantly very choppy. I think all the above are probably >=100% CPU on C2D 2.8GHz in Best quality mode.
Still, I can at least play everything in halfway acceptable quality in HA mode with very modest CPU usage: just want the best possible quality and that only comes with software decode at the moment.
indieke2
11-09-07, 03:23 AM
In order to avoid missunderstandings and to be more precise (sorry for being unprecise before): even in 3319e you can choose "play media from harddisk". But it's not working anymore: When selecting a directory with a blueray content the screen flashes (seems like building up a video window) and after that powerdvd comes up with an error message. When selecting a directory from harddisk containing a hd-dvd harddisk there simply happens nothing.
So two answers are possible:
1.) Simply a bug
2.) the preparation to remove the functionality "playing content from harddisk"
By the way: Rolling back to the latest official patch version resolves these issues...
I heard that, but figure this out. I can't play any HDDVD/BD content thru my DVI input of the Ruby anymore, Pwdvd can not activate HDCP. With the HDMI input, problem solved, but no 48 hz! This is strange as I connect with a HDMI cable and the output of my computer is also dvi....
But, I DO manage to play everything from the HD, without any problem! I have the latest 3119 a version too. Everything plays fine. I did use CC cleaner before reinstalling the 3119 a version. I also like said before, have a HDCP chain.
But what I have to say, in this latest version, I have the impression (am I the only one ?) that the image is much better. Colours look less oversaturated, and most of all, picture is much sharper. For the first time, it is as good as a stand alone player. tried some older movies too, same thing.
tristartristan
11-09-07, 04:37 AM
I thought Vista was less efficient than XP.
You want to bet!!;)
I think it's that Vista uses more resources than XP for what would be basic operation in XP.
Like fancy(largely unnecessary) GUI window transition effects and such.
@indieke2: Please recognize that i'm talking of version 3319E and not of version 3319A. So maybe there are some differences again?!
TheMule!
indieke2
11-09-07, 06:48 AM
Thought it was a mistake first, as I never heard about an E version. Anyway, the A version is working fine!
Polyphemus
11-09-07, 07:26 AM
Guys,
Judging by the Cyberlink Powerdvd update site, 3319f has arrived.
Alpha10
11-09-07, 07:53 AM
Guys,
Judging by the Cyberlink Powerdvd update site, 3319f has arrived.
That's weird, they sent me 3319e only this morning to try and resolve my stuttering issues with Spider-man blu-ray, oh well I'll give this a try as well...
Cheers
tristartristan
11-09-07, 07:59 AM
3319
3319.a
3319.e
3319.f
..........
What are they playing?????????????!!!!!!:confused:
I think i will go with Arcsoft as possible!
Alpha10
11-09-07, 08:03 AM
3319
3319.a
3319.e
3319.f
..........
What are they playing?????????????!!!!!!:confused:
I think i will go with Arcsoft as possible!
yeah, I think I'm on about my 20th+ patch since January :rolleyes:
3319
3319.a
3319.e
3319.f
..........
What are they playing?????????????!!!!!!:confused:
I think i will go with Arcsoft as possible!
It is a cost saving measure. Those numbers are expensive.
Usually, this is a sign of a software organization trying to save face. Someone must have told their manager that 3319 would have support for the newer titles. The good news is there are plenty of letter left :p
- Rich
Alpha10
11-09-07, 09:15 AM
It is a cost saving measure. Those numbers are expensive.
Usually, this is a sign of a software organization trying to save face. Someone must have told their manager that 3319 would have support for the newer titles. The good news is there are plenty of letter left :p
- Rich
At this rate we'll be most of the way through the available letters by tea-time:D
It appears many of you can successfully use spdif from PDVD and yet some of us can't get it to work. I and at least a couple of others are able to set it to output spdif but when the movie is played it changes to 2 channel stereo. All of this Cyberlink acknowledges but has no fix as of yet.
Does anyone have a fix or a troubleshoot sequence to resolve this??
It seems more like a registry setting problem but I am not sure were to look.
Any Ideas??
Thanks
Rew
How many of you guys tried the 3319f?
HappyFunBoater
11-09-07, 09:46 AM
Hmm. I'm feeling a little dense. I went to the PowerDVD upgrade site and can only see version 3409 posted 10/15 for version 7. So 3319f is newer than 3409? Or is the 3409 only for the non-Ultra version and 3319f is for Ultra? Where the heck can I find 3319f? It doesn't show up if I try to do an automatic upgrade check.
Sorry for the lame questions.
Edit: OK, I clicked around a little more and found it at:
http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/download/dl_patch_397_112_ENU.html
Sorry for the lameness. :-)
ncinsguy
11-09-07, 10:09 AM
i'm getting a refund for my powerdvd (already approved). too much trouble dealing with all these patches. i picked up a 360 off ebay for $115 to take its place. funny thing is the 360 has the same specs as my pc. maybe cyberlink should ask MS how they get them to play properly.
@HappFunBoater: 3409 is for the standard edition of powerdvd7 only, 3319 is for the ultra edition of powerdvd. Hope this clears things up...
Forget my answers: too late, you already figured it out by yourself...
TheMule!
i'm getting a refund for my powerdvd (already approved). too much trouble dealing with all these patches. i picked up a 360 off ebay for $115 to take its place. funny thing is the 360 has the same specs as my pc. maybe cyberlink should ask MS how they get them to play properly.
Have they bought out DTS now on the 360, and isnt it missing all the other Audio formats?
Am using the new 3319f everything running fine :D
Sunshine and Die Hard 4 work without needing AnyDVD :D
They dont work with it enabled :confused:
Am using the new 3319f everything running fine :D
Sunshine and Die Hard 4 work without needing AnyDVD :D
They dont work with it enabled :confused:
what version of anydvd are you using by chance? curious if the .9.6. anydvd beta gets broke again with the powerdvd f patch.
what version of anydvd are you using by chance? curious if the .9.6. anydvd beta gets broke again with the powerdvd f patch.
Am using the new beta .9.6.
Should have one out soon but i can wait, all the hd-dvd and blu ray movies i got work fine with new patch without needed anydvd.
Aint had no audio/video problems with new patch.
Ian, I figured out why I was getting such dramatic volume loss when switching to TrueHD. There is a setting in the PowerDVDUltra configuration panel that fixed it. Go to the Audio tab, then Advanced. You should see a Miscellaneous tab with 3 different levels of dynamic compression - Quiet, Normal, Noisy.
Thanks for that bezoar. When watching 300 on hd-dvd switching from dd+ to TrueHD the sound vol dropped so much. I changed it to Quiet and its all working fine now.
Does "f" fix the problem "e" had with playback from HDD or network location?
Does "f" fix the problem "e" had with playback from HDD or network location?
Couldn't tell you mate, i aint ripped a movie to HDD before.
ncinsguy
11-09-07, 11:36 AM
i'm concerned more with pq than aq so i'm not sure what formats are there and available. whatever it is sounds good to me on my 5.1 surround.
Have they bought out DTS now on the 360, and isnt it missing all the other Audio formats?
TokyoShoe
11-09-07, 12:39 PM
I am curious myself about the F version, especially regarding Web Enabled Features. I really wish they would get this feature working.
bingobill
11-09-07, 12:55 PM
Does "f" fix the problem "e" had with playback from HDD or network location?
No it doesn't :( IMHO this is now permanent. BDA applying the pressure ?
...then PDVDU's days are numbered for me...
No HDD playback = worthless player.
Mevlock
11-09-07, 01:18 PM
Just stick your rip in an iso file using imgburn or another app, then mount and play via daemon tools ;)
Works fine for me. Been doing this for a while now for click and play functionality with mediaportal. Works fine with the new patches.
bingobill
11-09-07, 01:37 PM
Just stick your rip in an iso file using imgburn or another app, then mount and play via daemon tools ;)
Works fine for me. Been doing this for a while now for click and play functionality with mediaportal. Works fine with the new patches.
Not so sure about that either, my ISO of FF RoSS played fine with 3319a with 3319f it doesn't play !
Mevlock
11-09-07, 01:54 PM
Not so sure about that either, my ISO of FF RoSS played fine with 3319a with 3319f it doesn't play !
I've yet to try it with an BD+ title but it works with all my other rips.
I am curious myself about the F version, especially regarding Web Enabled Features. I really wish they would get this feature working.
I think we know what the F stands for ;)
- Rich
bingobill
11-09-07, 02:34 PM
I've yet to try it with an BD+ title but it works with all my other rips.
Yes, it works with all my other ISO rips too, seems to be just BD+.
I think we know what the F stands for ;)
Would that be short for "F_ the consumer?"
can anyone send me 3319a ? I dont want to install F if it screws with HDD playback ..I know I can use ISO's but ...
Thund3r
11-09-07, 04:03 PM
in case this actually means anything, I asked cyberlink about adding aspect ratio control for anamorphic lenses etc, and got this response:
I asked:
Does PowerDVD Ultra support vertical
stretching cinemascope films (2.35:1
aspect ratio) for use with anamorphic
projector lenses? Or better yet, is
there a general way to control/convert
aspect ratio? If it does not currently,
will this feature be supported in the
near future?
For reference, please see TheaterTek's
aspect ratio control support:
http://www.theatertek.com/Products/Advanced%20Audio%20Features/adv_AspecRatio.html
--- they said ---
Thank you for contacting CyberLink Online Support.
We understand your concern related with PowerDVD Ultra.
At this moment the features you have asked are not available in current version of PowerDVD software.
However, We have forwarded your concern to our development department. Our development team will review them and try to include in next built of the software.
---
Maybe if enough of us ask, it will actually make it into some version some day ;-)
can anyone send me 3319a ? I dont want to install F if it screws with HDD playback ..I know I can use ISO's but ...
NM i got it thanks
Would that be short for "F_ the consumer?"
Bingo!
- Rich
Yup... 3319f breaks playback from HDD.
I'm already in contact with cyberlink regarding the issues with playback from hdd. Hopefully it's just a bug and not a strategy. Otherwise it's also worthless for me. I'm going to report immediately if getting any news...
TheMule!
Darren Wadsworth
11-09-07, 05:19 PM
Has anone noticed that if you play a ripped BD movie file (just the movie itself)from a hard drive the video stutters badly. But if you play the complete BD movie rip from a hard drive, there are no problems.
Darren
Has anone noticed that if you play a ripped BD movie file (just the movie itself)from a hard drive the video stutters badly. But if you play the complete BD movie rip from a hard drive, there is no problems.
Darren
Yes, I noticed the same thing in 3319.
- Rich
jpowell5
11-10-07, 12:09 AM
In a separate thread we have identified hardware that will allow multi-channel 5.1/7.1 LPCM output via HDMI. This is possible with onboard HDMI ports on Intel based G33 and the upcoming G35 Express chipsets.
The big question now is how will this be handled within PowerDVD? Will it be possible to specify the HDMI port for audio within PowerDVD?
Are the current versions of PowerDVD able to output the full resolution audio signal in LPCM without down converting?
I'm getting close to jumping in on this solution but I want to understand if it is even feasible with the current driver and software landscape.
Has anone noticed that if you play a ripped BD movie file (just the movie itself)from a hard drive the video stutters badly. But if you play the complete BD movie rip from a hard drive, there is no problems.
Darren
Sounds like another attempt by Cyberlink to prevent circumvention of their (erroneous) HDCP-compliance flagging.
To review:
Customers whose system is flagged as non-HDCP-compliant by Cyberlink software had the option of working around this with AnyDVD-HD. Cyberlink PDVDU versions above 3104.a.1 disallow disc playback when AnyDVD is in memory.
Customers in this predicament could rip their disc to HDD, unload AnyDVD, and play the movie from HDD via PDVDU. Cyberlink bagged that feature as of version 3319.e.
Customers could avoid upgrading from 3104.a.1, but Cyberlink added an automatic update feature, and an error message ("Critical component needs updating...") to try to force the updates. And Cyberlink removed links to earlier patches.
Customers could try to get around this by playing the movie file directly from HDD via the Windows Explorer (filetype associated with PDVDU), without "loading" the entire disc content from the PDVDU interface. Cyberlink has fouled that up, as noted in Darren's post above, and others on the SlySoft forums.
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Anyone else wonder if Cyberlink is trying to slam the door on AnyDVD workarounds to Cyberlink's erroneous HDCP-compliance testing? Anyone else suspect the BDA and HD-DVD Forum may have pushed Cyberlink in that direction? Anyone else wish SlySoft themselves would release an HD-DVD and bD player software?
Yup... 3319f breaks playback from HDD.
Plus has windowboxing, forced HA and aliasing issues in XP.
Transformers had some problems just getting through the initial menu process and then used 40%+ C2D 2.8GHz with a 8600GT no less (I don't recall it using anywhere near this amount with AnyDVD HD and PDVD 7.3.2911) with this version, although admittedly Transformers is at least readable directly in PDVD now.
I'll be ghosting back to 2911 as that is the only workable version for me if I also want to experiment with software playback.
Why would Cyberlink force HA, unless we get something more with software decoding which they don't want?
Sounds like another attempt by Cyberlink to prevent circumvention of their (erroneous) HDCP-compliance flagging.
To review:
Customers whose system is flagged as non-HDCP-compliant by Cyberlink software had the option of working around this with AnyDVD-HD. Cyberlink PDVDU versions above 3104.a.1 disallow disc playback when AnyDVD is in memory.
Customers in this predicament could rip their disc to HDD, unload AnyDVD, and play the movie from HDD via PDVDU. Cyberlink bagged that feature as of version 3319.e.
Customers could avoid upgrading from 3104.a.1, but Cyberlink added an automatic update feature, and an error message ("Critical component needs updating...") to try to force the updates. And Cyberlink removed links to earlier patches.
Customers could try to get around this by playing the movie file directly from HDD via the Windows Explorer (filetype associated with PDVDU), without "loading" the entire disc content from the PDVDU interface. Cyberlink has fouled that up, as noted in Darren's post above, and others on the SlySoft forums.
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Hmm for me it didn't disallow playback of HD-DVDs. I updated to 3319 in order to be able to play Transformers (on which at the time AnyDVD didn't work), and after that I've played Serenity and 2001 both from the discs and from the HDD without a problem with AnyDVD running. It was the latest non-beta, I think 6.1.8.4. The only thing I regret about having to update to 3319 is to have seen the stupidest movie this side of Cybertron. But besides that, pretty much the same as 3104a.1. I will update to 3319f and see what gives.
sigma957
11-10-07, 03:46 AM
It appears many of you can successfully use spdif from PDVD and yet some of us can't get it to work. I and at least a couple of others are able to set it to output spdif but when the movie is played it changes to 2 channel stereo. All of this Cyberlink acknowledges but has no fix as of yet.
Does anyone have a fix or a troubleshoot sequence to resolve this??
I was having problems with SPDIF changing to 2 channel audio when playing Dolby True HD. Is your problem similar?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12139548#post12139548
If so, the solution was to use the "S/PDIF Mixing" option and downmix the lossless audio to DTS over SPDIF.
I only have ordinary DVD drive for now as I am waiting for the LG Dual Format player. Currently there does not seem to be any available.
So it is just normal Dolby 5.1
In my menu the downmix is greyed out; so I can't select that.
Rew
can anyone send me 3319a ? I dont want to install F if it screws with HDD playback ..I know I can use ISO's but ...
Could someone please upload the v3319a patch to a shareable service so more than one can make use of it?
I'm also maxing out my CPU with the Transformers HD DVD. CPU usage runs between 50% and 100%, with 70% pretty much the norm until maxing out.
AMD 64 X2 4200+ 2.2GHz
Sapphire 2600XT 256MB
VISTA Home Premium 32 bit
PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 Build 3319a.0
AnyDVD HD 6.1.9.3
Hardware acceleration is ATI Avivo
CCDAstro
11-10-07, 11:17 AM
The only thing I regret about having to update to 3319 is to have seen the stupidest movie this side of Cybertron....
I also could not play "Surf's Up" or "Spiderman 3" with 3319 or before, but 3319a worked. It also worked with YXY (with the file hack described on another thread).
Alan Gouger
11-10-07, 11:43 AM
I also could not play "Surf's Up" or "Spiderman 3" with 3319 or before, but 3319a worked. It also worked with YXY (with the file hack described on another thread).
Just got my LG dual drive today. Will be installing it mid week, waiting for my PC to arrive.
YXY, I remember that program from years ago. Neat little aspect ratio program. I do not remember, does it remember its setting per movie?
Thank you!
That's an interesting hotfix, but I wonder what the solution is for single-monitor setups that have full HDCP, but on which Cyberlink erroneously reports non-compliance?
Alan Gouger
11-10-07, 12:50 PM
This player was mention in this or another thread. Anyone try this?
Looks interesting but I would hate to spend the money and find out it
has its own share of shortfalls. If someone can confirm it works I may check it out.
http://www.arcsoft.com/products/totalmediatheatre/
Need some help with the audio output.
When playing a movie (any dvd or hd dvd or blueray) from the HD I can only get 2 channel output. I can set it to spdif in the config screen before running the movie, but once I start playback it jumps right back to 2 channel mode with no option for spdif.
I have tried several different movies and all are the same. With my other playback software, theatertek, I get digital out of the spdif no problem.
I am just want straight digital output from the spdif with zero processing from the software.
Any ideas?
I tried 3319f on my XP Pro SP2 machine, and I'm getting black bars all around on regular DVDs when HW accel is on. Using an ATI X1900GT with 7.8 drivers. It didn't happen with 3104a. I have yet to try HD-DVD though.
Ponziani
11-10-07, 01:10 PM
I had posted a Knowledgebase article from Microsoft for dual-monitor systems with COPP failures under Vista, but deleted the message to avoid misleading people as I believe PowerDVD uses EVR instead of COPP. This is the hotfix to which IAMU4K refers. I'll post the link again with the caveat that I'm no longer sure this hotfix actually solved my PowerDVD issues (though PowerDVD is now working for me); I also switched to 3319f after installing the hotfix.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939207
Craig Hall
11-10-07, 01:16 PM
It appears many of you can successfully use spdif from PDVD and yet some of us can't get it to work. I and at least a couple of others are able to set it to output spdif but when the movie is played it changes to 2 channel stereo. All of this Cyberlink acknowledges but has no fix as of yet.
I have a workaround for this!
I suddenly started having this problem on Vista two days ago. SP/DIF passthrough was working the night before, the next day it was suddenly broken. I don't think PDVD auto-updated, I still seem to have version 7.3.3319.0 according to the About screen.
Workaround: From the Sound control panel, disable every output device other than the SP/DIF device you want.
In PDVD with analog devices enabled I get this in the Configuration/Information tab (sound reverts to 2-channel as you describe):
SPDIF Output Device: Speakers (C-Media Oxygen HD Aud (not in use)
With analog devices disabled, I get this (passthrough works):
SPDIF Output Device: Digital Output (C-Media Oxygen (not in use)
You don't even have to restart PDVD, just re-open the Configuration menu after making a change (with the player stopped of course), make sure it has the correct device, and set audio to SP/DIF.
Somehow PDVD is getting confused about which device is actually for passthrough. The only automatic update I'm aware of is a Vista Defender update that happened the night things went wrong. Unless Microsoft snuck something else in under the radar, I have no idea what happened.
Craig.
MickeyDora
11-10-07, 01:25 PM
This player was mention in this or another thread. Anyone try this?
Looks interesting but I would hate to spend the money and find out it
has its own share of shortfalls. If someone can confirm it works I may check it out.
http://www.arcsoft.com/products/totalmediatheatre/
Alan,
DT has not been officially released yet. There is a Japanese demo that seems to work but I think it has some Demo limitations. There are a few people that have this already (the full version) but the reports are far and few between.
I have a workaround for this!
I suddenly started having this problem on Vista two days ago. SP/DIF passthrough was working the night before, the next day it was suddenly broken. I don't think PDVD auto-updated, I still seem to have version 7.3.3319.0 according to the About screen.
Workaround: From the Sound control panel, disable every output device other than the SP/DIF device you want.
In PDVD with analog devices enabled I get this in the Configuration/Information tab (sound reverts to 2-channel as you describe):
SPDIF Output Device: Speakers (C-Media Oxygen HD Aud (not in use)
With analog devices disabled, I get this (passthrough works):
SPDIF Output Device: Digital Output (C-Media Oxygen (not in use)
You don't even have to restart PDVD, just re-open the Configuration menu after making a change (with the player stopped of course), make sure it has the correct device, and set audio to SP/DIF.
Somehow PDVD is getting confused about which device is actually for passthrough. The only automatic update I'm aware of is a Vista Defender update that happened the night things went wrong. Unless Microsoft snuck something else in under the radar, I have no idea what happened.
Craig.
Thanks but no amount of changes to the sound card in / out seems to make any difference. My sound device is a Analog Devices 1985 SoundMax for what it is worth.
Rew
Davinleeds
11-10-07, 04:12 PM
This player was mention in this or another thread. Anyone try this?
Looks interesting but I would hate to spend the money and find out it
has its own share of shortfalls. If someone can confirm it works I may check it out.
http://www.arcsoft.com/products/totalmediatheatre/
Using it as an HD DVD player, it played Alexander Revisited before PDVD could, but it would not play 300. It looks and plays a little better than PDVD imo, and seems to have more features. The trial is in Japanese so real testing for me - not. Unless they have a trial in english, I will wait about a month after release. Many are fed up with PDVD and will report their findings.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=900666
Matt_EtheC
11-10-07, 07:09 PM
OK I've tried searching on this everywhere. I'm thinking i just describe the problem wrong or something. When i try to play bluray on PDVD latest version, I get a situation where the picture kinda breaks up. Almost like the vertical hold is off or something. It will play like that for the rest of the film if i let it. If I stop the movie and restart it, its good for a while. Happens about two or three times a movie. Never happens with HDDVD. Using a Hd2400 pro. Latest drivers. Has anyone else seen this behavior?
I tried 3319f on my XP Pro SP2 machine, and I'm getting black bars all around on regular DVDs when HW accel is on. Using an ATI X1900GT with 7.8 drivers. It didn't happen with 3104a. I have yet to try HD-DVD though.
That's the windowboxing I was referring to earlier. It happens for all versions after 3104 for me for HD, but I didn't realise it also happened for DVD.
It seems to be similar to the situation with ATI 2x00 GPUs where if a SORT parameter in the registry is too small, it limits scaling to that buffer size. At least in that case, one could hack the registry to increase the SORT size and overcome the problem.
I don't know why it is appearing in PowerDVD with Nvidia cards now.
Unless Cyberlink release a patch with a major functionality improvement (from the consumer perspective, not AACS LA), I'll be sticking with PDVD 7.3.2911 as the most stable and consumer featured version (3104 and above force HA and don't permit software decoding). In their attempt to appease the DRM gods, Cyberlink are rapidly alienating their customer base.
sigma957
11-10-07, 08:48 PM
Unless Cyberlink release a patch with a major functionality improvement (from the consumer perspective, not AACS LA), I'll be sticking with PDVD 7.3.2911 as the most stable and consumer featured version (3104 and above force HA and don't permit software decoding).Same here. Now that AnyDVD can rip the latest discs, I don't know why everyone is still messing around with the new patches for PDVD. Just install 2911, use AnyDVD, and watch movies.
That's the windowboxing I was referring to earlier. It happens for all versions after 3104 for me for HD, but I didn't realise it also happened for DVD.
It seems to be similar to the situation with ATI 2x00 GPUs where if a SORT parameter in the registry is too small, it limits scaling to that buffer size. At least in that case, one could hack the registry to increase the SORT size and overcome the problem.
I don't know why it is appearing in PowerDVD with Nvidia cards now.
Unless Cyberlink release a patch with a major functionality improvement (from the consumer perspective, not AACS LA), I'll be sticking with PDVD 7.3.2911 as the most stable and consumer featured version (3104 and above force HA and don't permit software decoding). In their attempt to appease the DRM gods, Cyberlink are rapidly alienating their customer base.
Oh, crap, never mind. I thought it was windowboxing, but the movie was encoded like that. I could have sworn that the windowboxing didn't appear when HW accel was turned off. I don't know what's wrong with me. 4 cups of coffee before 9 am may have done it.
wilsonj
11-11-07, 02:55 AM
Same here. Now that AnyDVD can rip the latest discs, I don't know why everyone is still messing around with the new patches for PDVD. Just install 2911, use AnyDVD, and watch movies.
I would say because some people (me included) want to be able to just put a disc in and watch the movie, without haveing the hassle of ripping it to the hard drive. That takes a good half hour on my machine.
Why do you want software decoding? Whats wrong with HA?
I would say because some people (me included) want to be able to just put a disc in and watch the movie, without haveing the hassle of ripping it to the hard drive. That takes a good half hour on my machine.
Why do you want software decoding? Whats wrong with HA?
You can do just that with AnyDVD, you don't need to rip the movie to the HDD. You could though, and that's pretty neat. The reason to stay with 2911 is that the later versions are either buggy or more restricted. The reason to do software decoding is that ATI and nVidia still haven't put their act together with their hardware acceleration for HD, and software decoding at least lets you do some workarounds.
Vern Dias
11-11-07, 06:58 AM
I have an ATI HD 2900 XT and SW decoding clearly delivers a more detailed image with less ringing (EE) than HW decoding does, at least on my system.
Since I have a high end projector with excellent optics (Sony Qualia 004 + Isco Cinema DLP anamorphic lens) and I am projecting on a large screen (5'x14'), any EE is to much EE.
You do need a high end core II duo CPU to handle the work, though.
Vern
Same here. Now that AnyDVD can rip the latest discs, I don't know why everyone is still messing around with the new patches for PDVD. Just install 2911, use AnyDVD, and watch movies.
Some titles doesn't play with 2911. For example Spidey 3 (german version) needs the new patch, with or without AnyDVD.
But i don't like it because reclock doesn't work anymore!
I am waiting for stock to replenish get a LG Dual format player; In the mean time are there any good HDDVD and Blu-ray Test clips to check out PDVD??
Thanks
Rew
Some titles doesn't play with 2911. For example Spidey 3 (german version) needs the new patch, with or without AnyDVD.
But i don't like it because reclock doesn't work anymore!
is that because they have BD+? do any other new disks not work with an older version of power dvd , with Anydvd, because i wont buy any more movies if i cant back them up to my HDD and play them on Pwdvd, and with this new patch it seems that pwdvd is disabling hdd playback, for now im using 3319a if it turns out i cant use it with new disks it looks like i will be out of the hdm market until some one comes out with a player that works with out all the bull$hit
wilsonj
11-11-07, 03:08 PM
You can do just that with AnyDVD, you don't need to rip the movie to the HDD. You could though, and that's pretty neat. The reason to stay with 2911 is that the later versions are either buggy or more restricted. The reason to do software decoding is that ATI and nVidia still haven't put their act together with their hardware acceleration for HD, and software decoding at least lets you do some workarounds.
Actually there are a number of newer titles that simply won't play on 2911. Spiderman3 and Fantastic four are two. I am sure there are more, and more coming.
I agree, neither seem to have HD decoding/acceleration working properly.
is that because they have BD+?
No, i think it's because of the bd-j menus. with 2911 the spider-logo pops up for half a second and then you have black screen.
as per Slysoft
>all available BD+ titles can be copied with AnyDVD ripper, or can be watched on HTPC without HDCP using PowerDVD 3104 and AnyDVD
I've tried multiple versions of PowerDVD including 3319f with and without AnyDVD 6.1.7 beta with the LG HD-DVD/Blu-ray combo drive and can't get the menu with the extra content on 'Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer' (smart menu?). The movie plays and defaults to dts (using spdif) but no other menu options are offered.
Can anyone with this or another BD+ title confirm and/or whether it's a Cyberlink or drive firmware issue? Any workarounds to get the extra content on this disc?
jeffreydeng
11-11-07, 09:10 PM
Because I can't play anything from HDD using 3319f I searched 3319a and got following.
http://rs223.rapidshare.com/files/63299127/Cyberlink_Power_DVD_Ultra.rar
I have downloaded but havent' tried it out yet.
Actually there are a number of newer titles that simply won't play on 2911. Spiderman3 and Fantastic four are two. I am sure there are more, and more coming.
I agree, neither seem to have HD decoding/acceleration working properly.
Hmm this is the sort of thing that makes me hesitate about getting bluray. HD-DVD for the most part has been pretty easy on the restrictions (in comparison). Anyway, so is the much-publicized BD+ crack not working, or are you using an older version of AnyDVD? (I think only the beta cracked BD+ for now.)
wilsonj
11-12-07, 02:42 AM
If you just want to play the movie you can just disable anydvd, select the correct region in PDVD and play! That always worked for me.
If you just want to play the movie you can just disable anydvd, select the correct region in PDVD and play! That always worked for me.
That only works if Cyberlink's routines correctly recognize that your equipment is HDCP-compliant. With my HDCP-compliant equipment, Cyberlink reports non-compliance and therefore refuses to play HDM. AnyDVD is the workaround.
After sampling 40+ pages of this thread I still do not understand one thing - how to get best possible sound out of HD disks in PDVD?
For example, I have a disk with Dolby Digital EX, DTS-HD and PCM tracks. How would the following options rank in terms of output quality via SPDIF:
1. Dolby Digital EX
2. DTS-HD without DTS downmixing on
2. DTS-HD with DTS downmixing on
4. PCM with DTS downmixing on
Also, how would it compare to 7.1 analog output (not taking into account the differnce in DAC quality - only the digital part).
Thanks
How can I launch an HD DVD using a command-line if there is no .VLS file??? (only a VIDEO_TS) directory...
How do I launch the HD DVD using command-line by passing it just a folder?
penngray
11-12-07, 01:49 PM
How can I launch an HD DVD using a command-line if there is no .VLS file??? (only a VIDEO_TS) directory...
How do I launch the HD DVD using command-line by passing it just a folder?
I hope you find out because I want to do the same thing!!
jpowell5
11-12-07, 02:38 PM
After sampling 40+ pages of this thread I still do not understand one thing - how to get best possible sound out of HD disks in PDVD?
For example, I have a disk with Dolby Digital EX, DTS-HD and PCM tracks. How would the following options rank in terms of output quality via SPDIF:
1. Dolby Digital EX
2. DTS-HD without DTS downmixing on
2. DTS-HD with DTS downmixing on
4. PCM with DTS downmixing on
Also, how would it compare to 7.1 analog output (not taking into account the differnce in DAC quality - only the digital part).
Thanks
1. Dolby Digital EX
--> Mediocre quality. You can send it natively over SPDIF but it won't sound as good as DTS.
2. DTS-HD without DTS downmixing on
--> SPDIF will not support the bandwidth for this. Any HD quality soundtrack on Blu-Ray or HD DVD will be downmixed before being output on SPDIF.
3. DTS-HD with DTS downmixing on
--> Probably the best best option for those presented in this list (however, see my comment below about audio card DACs). You will get the highest quality sound assuming that your AV Receivers DACs are better quality than on your sound card.
4. PCM with DTS downmixing on
--> SPDIF does not support multi-channel PCM. Only 2 channel.
Also, how would it compare to 7.1 analog output (not taking into account the differnce in DAC quality - only the digital part).
--> This question doesn't make much sense. You have to take into account the DACS because that is usually more important than the signal being fed. If you're asking what digital source will be fed to the DACs then it should the DTS-HD with downmixing off. That is the highest quality (and highest bit rate) that you mention above. Assuming that the DACs in your audio card are higher quality than your AV Receiver this option will give you the highest quality audio.
I hope you find out because I want to do the same thing!!
Is there a way to create a .VLS file? I tried creating a playlist of all the EVO files, but it didn't work, since I lost the menu navigation using this method...
My question is - which file contains the menu navigation information if there is no ADV_OBJ folder?
Larry J
11-12-07, 04:02 PM
So from what I'm reading around and about in different places, is that 7.3.3319f won't play from the Hard-drive. That's kind of sad and not sure why Powerdvd would do that, even though I'm sure I could take some guesses. I also don't think I see a point having Powerdvd Ultra if that's the case and no way around it. Yeah, of course the old version still works I hear. Copy protection gone wild I guess.
wonder why they removed support for hd from hdd?
mitchjs
11-12-07, 04:52 PM
does anyone have 3319d ??
since 3319e is the 1st to not work playback on HD
id like to do a binary compare of files from 3319d vs 3319e
i got 3319a, and will try it, hopefully i can find the reference to
the error message :)
mitch
Want to hear something funny? :)
More testing with my test bed (Gigabyte 690G motherboard, X2 5000, onboard x1250 Video) reveals some interesting things.
PowerDVD 3319 (not f), on XP MCE 32 bit plays HD DVDs from my storage server FAR more efficiently than Vista. King Kong (which is one of my test HD DVDs) plays at ~80% CPU with XP vs ~95% with Vista. And I don't know, to my eyes, the XP/PowerDVD combo looks SMOOTHER than Vista/PowerDVD.
Interesting..
B Leisle
11-12-07, 05:16 PM
does anyone have 3319d ??
since 3319e is the 1st to not work playback on HD
id like to do a binary compare of files from 3319d vs 3319e
i got 3319a, and will try it, hopefully i can find the reference to
the error message :)
mitch
I think Cyberlink skipped "d" and went to plaid.
B Leisle
11-12-07, 05:18 PM
I asked Cyberlink why I couldn't play my own authored discs from the hard drive. Here is their response:
Thank you for contacting CyberLink Online Support.
We understand your concern related with PowerDVD Ultra.
Please note that PowerDVD Ultra 3319e and 3319f does not support HD content playback from hard drive.
If you try to play HD content from the hard drive, you will get an Error Code: 8090000A. Door is open or disc in not present.
Please feel free to contact us back for any further clarification or for any assistance related to CyberLink Products.
Thank You and Best Regards
LOL, I love it. :D
Q: Why is the sky blue?
A: The sky is blue.
Well, that sucks.
And, they're blatantly lying. Either they don't "understand your concern" or they don't wish you "Best Regards". They just wish you a big FU.
Anyway, I wonder why no one else including the main competition has come up with an HD disc player. I thought WinDVD was able to do it, but it seems it isn't. It's probably hard to keep up with all these stupid updates and requirements.
Do you get in touch with customer service?
I registered my copy that came with my LG combo drive, and it never asked me to make a password. I try having the Cyberlink website email me my password so I can change it, and it never emails it to me. Without being able to log into the customer service part of the website, I can't even get in touch with them. It's really ticking me off. They won't give you a phone number for any kind of support unless you pay them for the phone number subscription for phone tech support. I wish they were located locally so I could drop by their place and chew some arse!
This is dadgummed rediculous! I'm getting frustrated because LG hasn't responded to my email either. I hate to sound like a whiner (although I do right now), but LG or Cyberlink needs to step up and "upgrade" me to the version that isn't 2-channel restricted audio.
It is listed on the box of the LG drive (on back) as having HD-DVD and BD hi def playback. It doesn't mention that the software is crippled or a trial, etc. If you state on the package that it includes it, then you include it.
So, it's official. Cyberlink deliberately removed HDD playback from PDVDU.
Therefore, PDVDU will no longer be a viable HTPC HDM playback solution once 3319a and prior are unusable due to future revisions to HDM releases.
Where is a player that will work?
boatasiaus
11-12-07, 06:29 PM
I sent an email to Cyberlink support questioning the logic behind the hard disk playback issue.
Also told them I would be demanding a refund, (just bought the software 2 weeks ago) if this is in fact true.
Will post any response I receive
PS Also posted a link to this thread, as if that would do any good.
Not to defend cyberlink, but I think they are caught in the middle and their hand is being forced by the studios.
The studios are not happy that their vaunted secutity provisions were quickly bypassed and that powerdvd is one of the only way to gain playback of hacked or ripped movies. I am sure the studios are putting imense preasure on cyberlink to lock down their product. If cyberlink does not conform the studios could conceivably pull any further support/compatability, meaning cyberlink would be dead in the water as far as HD playback goes.
Hopefully the community will continue to provide support to those of us willing to make the effort to find and use work arounds.
jouyang
11-12-07, 07:55 PM
They may be caught in the middle but they should not throw all their HD customers under the bus. I think they should just post a page with a list of verions that they have. Let the customer pick the version that they want and not forcing them to upgrade to F.
They may be caught in the middle but they should not throw all their HD customers under the bus. I think they should just post a page with a list of verions that they have. Let the customer pick the version that they want and not forcing them to upgrade to F.
I do not think they are throwing all their customers under the bus. If you are fully hdcp compliant and play from the disk it should work as advertised. Remember by ripping the disk to HD you are breaking the law even if you own the disk in question.
And as far as I know they are not forcing you to upgrade. I got the nag today and just closed the window. I plan to keep running 3104 until work arounds are effected for the newer releases.
arfster
11-12-07, 09:06 PM
I do not think they are throwing all their customers under the bus. If you are fully hdcp compliant and play from the disk it should work as advertised. Remember by ripping the disk to HD you are breaking the law even if you own the disk in question.
Depends which country you're in, and frankly I couldn't care less. It's my disc, I'll back it up if i want. Laws bought by wealthy interests have no hold over me.
They are forcing us to upgrade though, since newer discs won't play with older PDVD versions.
boatasiaus
11-12-07, 09:06 PM
Not to defend cyberlink, but I think they are caught in the middle and their hand is being forced by the studios.
The studios are not happy that their vaunted secutity provisions were quickly bypassed and that powerdvd is one of the only way to gain playback of hacked or ripped movies. I am sure the studios are putting imense preasure on cyberlink to lock down their product. If cyberlink does not conform the studios could conceivably pull any further support/compatability, meaning cyberlink would be dead in the water as far as HD playback goes.
Hopefully the community will continue to provide support to those of us willing to make the effort to find and use work arounds.
I agree this is likely the issue. The problem in my mind is you can't sell a product based on capabilities, then remove those capabilities.
hamish b
11-12-07, 09:38 PM
meaning cyberlink would be dead in the water as far as HD playback goes.
which as far as the htpc community goes might mean that power dvd is dead in the water
if i didnt own it now there is no way i would buy it in its current condition.
iansilv
11-12-07, 09:47 PM
wow- they just lost all future customers if I can have anything to do with it. . Good luck running a company on existing revenues guys- goodluck. Either fix it, or it is going to be trashed on every forum I can possibly post on.
jsunperry
11-12-07, 09:52 PM
Is there a way to get around the forced update? Clicking 'no' that I don't want to upgrade just puts me in a loop of not being able to play the inserted disc and asking for an upgrade every time I try to play it.
I'm assuming Cyberlink gets info online and then poisons your player for newish discs until you update. Do I have to reinstall 3319a and then keep my internet connection disabled?
Sounds like Slysoft'll fix this pretty soon anyhow.
hamish b
11-12-07, 09:59 PM
mind, we can always wait until somebody illegally hacks current dvd playback software that allows us to do what we want with our legally purchased discs
which is what the studios dont want to happen but is forcing us all to do.
Im just waiting for the studios to change there minds over hdcp graphics cards and then revoke them all, or that current hdcp displays arent good enough and release a new hdcp mark 2, or that drives should play oval discs not round ones or.........
actually better still, just say that they dont want hd playback possible on a pc at all
wow- they just lost all future customers if I can have anything to do with it. . Good luck running a company on existing revenues guys- goodluck. Either fix it, or it is going to be trashed on every forum I can possibly post on.
and to think i was just about to buy a large software suit from them, not now
jpowell5
11-12-07, 10:12 PM
So, it's official. Cyberlink deliberately removed HDD playback from PDVDU.
Therefore, PDVDU will no longer be a viable HTPC HDM playback solution once 3319a and prior are unusable due to future revisions to HDM releases.
Where is a player that will work?
If you are not already aware, Arcsoft has a very cool solution available now in Japan called Digital Theater 2 that should be released in English soon. People who have tried the Japanese trial version say that the PQ is better than PowerDVD.
I'm cautiously optimistic.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=900666
hamish b
11-12-07, 10:20 PM
If you are not already aware, Arcsoft has a very cool solution available now in Japan called Digital Theater 2 that should be released in English soon. People who have tried the Japanese trial version say that the PQ is better than PowerDVD.
I'm cautiously optimistic.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=900666
i have tried it and i personally think its better than pdvd but because you can take off hw accel which provides a better picture
i suspect the english release might be delayed because they too might have to apply the same restrictions that cyberlink are having to incorporate into their software, so when the english release does come out it might have the same frustrating limitations as the current powerddvd release has
here's hoping they dont
B Leisle
11-13-07, 12:19 AM
I do not think they are throwing all their customers under the bus. If you are fully hdcp compliant and play from the disk it should work as advertised. Remember by ripping the disk to HD you are breaking the law even if you own the disk in question.
And as far as I know they are not forcing you to upgrade. I got the nag today and just closed the window. I plan to keep running 3104 until work arounds are effected for the newer releases.
Not all commercial high definition discs are stamped by one of the Big 5 studios and have DRM on them - there is DRM-free material on the market. If Cyberlink permanently disables HDD playback for all high definition media, not only would they be selling defective software, they'd be seriously damaging the chances of gaining future customers if and when other vendors release viable products.
With that being said, it wouldn't surprise me if Hollywood was the source of Cyberlink disabling HDD playback starting with 3319e. For all intents and purposes, PowerDVD is the only viable solution for HDM playback on the PC currently. That coupled with the fact muslix64 and arnezami used PowerDVD as their means of transport to find the workaround to AACS certainly doesn't give Cyberlink much of a good name with Hollywood. AACS LA licenses Cyberlink their unique keys, so I'm sure Cyberlink is definitely under their microscope, plus you've got the BDA empire and their BD+ security all peeved that it's been bypassed. 3319e was released shortly after Slysoft found a way to rip BD+ titles, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together.
Also, please don't think I'm venting on you, I'm angry with Cyberlink for constantly putting it's customer base last on its priority list.
Larry J
11-13-07, 01:29 AM
I'm sure the studios probably never really wanted any thing played back on a computer, and I was surprised HD got going as fast as it did. I'm not even sure they want you to play what you buy, they just want the money for it. Well, they don't get a lot from me really, just too bad enough people cannot stop buying in a group effort, while letting them know why. This over protection HDCP thing is nothing but a big mess.
There really cannot be another reason for Powerdvd to remove HDD playback all of a sudden, unless they are insane. What is there about Slysoft they cannot seem to mess with, but Powerdvd gets scared and does what they ask.
Regardless, the entire situation is pathetic not being able to put something you buy on a HDD and play it back. I have no idea why anyone would buy powerdvd now with the headaches using a computer, rather than a stand alone player.
A friend of mind did try the new versions out just to be sure, and it won't play from a HDD. So, like everyone is saying, until there is another way around this will have to continue using older version. I don't see any signs of a forced upgrade or heard of one.
archibael
11-13-07, 01:56 AM
There really cannot be another reason for Powerdvd to remove HDD playback all of a sudden, unless they are insane. What is there about Slysoft they cannot seem to mess with, but Powerdvd gets scared and does what they ask.
One is completely outside of the legal apparatus of the US (Antigua) and the other is dependent on the goodwill of the studios for its core business?
:rolleyes:
Regardless, the entire situation is pathetic not being able to put something you buy on a HDD and play it back. I have no idea why anyone would buy powerdvd now with the headaches using a computer, rather than a stand alone player.
A friend of mind did try the new versions out just to be sure, and it won't play from a HDD. So, like everyone is saying, until there is another way around this will have to continue using older version. I don't see any signs of a forced upgrade or heard of one.
I'm somewhat surprised if they were pressured into this... isn't "Play disks from hard drive" on their features list? If it's not, they can always say they never claimed it was possible anyway, but if it's on there obviously they would have to accept the returns of anyone who'd bought the software in the last year or so.
Larry J
11-13-07, 03:03 AM
One is completely outside of the legal apparatus of the US (Antigua) and the other is dependent on the goodwill of the studios for its core business?
:rolleyes:
I'm somewhat surprised if they were pressured into this... isn't "Play disks from hard drive" on their features list? If it's not, they can always say they never claimed it was possible anyway, but if it's on there obviously they would have to accept the returns of anyone who'd bought the software in the last year or so.
Yeah, well, I pretty knew the reasons but I wasn't really sure where Slysoft was located, but I had assumed it was somewhere hard for the studios to deal with, if a place like that really exists on the planet.
So, if they weren't pressured then why did they do it? There is zero sense doing that. I just wrote Cyberlink and asked for a reason, I'm sure I'll get very "clear" response. :o
Regardless, I have almost zero use for Powerdvd if I couldn't play from a HDD. Heck, just the fact no other players are out probably means they're having to include who knows what. For some reason I thought there was a thread on AVS trying to use third party software to play HD, but I must have dream it, since I don't see such a thing now. I imagine at some point in time there will be things available so one can do pretty much what they want too, since the studios refuse to agree to anything, even managed copy.
Ten99,
I'm not sure what the problem with your password is with Cyberlink. But I dealt with then about the software they sent with a drive, that was only 2 channel. It took about a month going back and forth, with them asking crazy questions, even wanting screen shots to prove it I guess. Then they finally gave a link to download a version that would work. The even gave a key to it. I really just kept answering their questions for amusement, didn't expect them to actually do something.
archibael
11-13-07, 03:57 AM
Regardless, I have almost zero use for Powerdvd if I couldn't play from a HDD. Heck, just the fact no other players are out probably means they're having to include who knows what. For some reason I thought there was a thread on AVS trying to use third party software to play HD, but I must have dream it, since I don't see such a thing now.
I am sure you dreamt the whole thing. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11341294#post11341294)
This was my answer to cyberlink in regards of removing features:
"I'm sorry but this answer is in no way
acceptable! I bought this software at a
point in time where the feature of
playing hd-content from harddisk was
included. Your decision to remove this
feature afterwards means changing the
contract which exists between cyberlink
and me.
So, it's your turn to give me a refund
for loosing this feature. Otherwise i
have to think about filing a lawsuit
against cyberlink because of changing
the contract without my permission.
Thanks in advance!"
Let's see what they have to say...
TheMule!
Clams Canino
11-13-07, 07:03 AM
I'm just glad I didn't buy it. Time to wait for the HD market (and Software) to sort out more I guess.
-W
Ten99,
I'm not sure what the problem with your password is with Cyberlink. But I dealt with then about the software they sent with a drive, that was only 2 channel. It took about a month going back and forth, with them asking crazy questions, even wanting screen shots to prove it I guess. Then they finally gave a link to download a version that would work. The even gave a key to it. I really just kept answering their questions for amusement, didn't expect them to actually do something.
I don't know either. At this point, I would just like a copy of the software that actually works. I don't need the software to read movies off of a hard drive like so many others do. That doesn't mean that I don't support them (the others) who do. I'm mainly interested in getting the ability to have more than 2.0 sound while watching a movie from the original disc.
You don't happen to have a real email address for one of their Customer Support folks do you? Maybe if I had a way to email them in the first place, I could get the ball rolling. At this point, I can't even establish contact with them.
boatasiaus
11-13-07, 07:49 AM
Well, here it is, my response from CyberlinkDear Ted,
Thank you for contacting CyberLink Online Support.
We understand your concern related with playing HD contents from the hard drive.
We regret but this feature has been disabled in the latest version of PowerDVD Ultra. You will not be able to play HD contents from your hard drive.
Regarding refund, all our sales related issues are handled by our sales partner Element5.
I guess thats it.
saintsaints
11-13-07, 08:23 AM
Create an iso of the hd movie, then mount it with daemon tools and play back with latest PD.
h8redv2
11-13-07, 08:30 AM
Good thing I didnīt upgra
Hopefully ArcSoft will have this feature
I suspect future updates to AnyDVD HD may include "Rip to ISO." Just a guess.
I also think Cyberlink will not bring back HDD playback. Therefore, Cyberlink must suffer as much as we can make them suffer by merely telling the truth about their product, and its lack of utility as advertised.
It was Cyberlink's false reporting of my HDCP-compliant equipment (purchased especially for HD playback, and at increased expense) as "non-compliant" that forced me to use AnyDVD HD as the work-around. It was Cyberlink's refusal to play discs with AnyDVD HD in memory that forced me to use "Rip to HDD" as the work-around. And now they have shut down that solution as well. Cyberlink's PowerDVD Ultra is no longer a viable HDM playback solution.
ballenjr
11-13-07, 09:21 AM
Create an iso of the hd movie, then mount it with daemon tools and play back with latest PD.
Has anyone tried this? Does it work?
This is element5 customer service - I've just phoned and requested a refund (on the basis I can no longer play my home authored HD media from my media server).
Customer service USA
(Language: English):
Tel.: +1 952 646-5022 or +1 800 406 4966
Fax: +1 952 646-4552
Customer Service Europe
(Languages: German / English / French / Italian / Spanish / Portuguese):
Tel.: +49 221 31088-30
Fax: +49 221 31088-29
dukey1980
11-13-07, 09:50 AM
Although the number of ripped HD-DVD and Blu-Ray's on my HTPC was diminishing, i really liked the "play from HDD" feature. Here in europe there aren't a lot of affordable bluray, hd-dvd pc drives. So basically i am bound to my xbox360 drive and to the HD-DVD format for now.
I hope LG dumps that combo pc drive in europe in the next weeks or i will go crazy :-D.
CCDAstro
11-13-07, 10:47 AM
We regret but this feature has been disabled in the latest version of PowerDVD Ultra. You will not be able to play HD contents from your hard drive.
So the next question is what will the upcoming ArcSoft program do with this? Anyone know?
Beefcake
11-13-07, 10:59 AM
I'm going to try creating an ISO from the HDD folders and then mounting it with Daemon tools. Assuming it works, let's hope that Cyberlink never figures out how to make us not be able to do this.
AngelEyes
11-13-07, 11:03 AM
I'm going to try creating an ISO from the HDD folders and then mounting it with Daemon tools. Assuming it works, let's hope that Cyberlink never figures out how to make us not be able to do this.
This certainly worked fine for me with earlier versions of PDVD, I used this method with any 'tricky' disks that would not play from HDD.
Let me know how you get on :)
Adam
jpowell5
11-13-07, 12:21 PM
So the next question is what will the upcoming ArcSoft program do with this? Anyone know?
The trial version available in Japanese is currently able to play HD media from the hard drive.
However, who knows if the Hollywood forces that pressured Cyberlink into crippling their solution will bear down on Arcsoft as well. Only time will tell.
bcollins
11-13-07, 12:32 PM
I'm running 3319f and I am getting the same message as everyone else when I attempt playback from within PowerDVD. When I initiate playback from MyMovies however, the movie still plays fine from the hard drive. So, just to clarify, I can play HD and BD movies from the hard drive with 3319f - I just can't initiate playback from the PowerDVD interface.
CCDAstro
11-13-07, 12:44 PM
So, just to clarify, I can play HD and BD movies from the hard drive with 3319f - I just can't initiate playback from the PowerDVD interface.
Hmm, Interesting. Maybe Cyberlink's way to say to Hollywood: "Hey, we didn't do it, go talk to those Danish Guys (who are a lot harder to get to <g>)"
Larry J
11-13-07, 02:06 PM
I don't know either. At this point, I would just like a copy of the software that actually works. I don't need the software to read movies off of a hard drive like so many others do. That doesn't mean that I don't support them (the others) who do. I'm mainly interested in getting the ability to have more than 2.0 sound while watching a movie from the original disc.
You don't happen to have a real email address for one of their Customer Support folks do you? Maybe if I had a way to email them in the first place, I could get the ball rolling. At this point, I can't even establish contact with them.
I got a email address that comes back when they answer, but I have no idea if it actually works for a response. Kind of doubt it does, but here it is : service@cyberlink.com.tw
Why don't you just create another account with a different email address, you will have to give them all kinds of information again anyway, once they start with their silly questions.
Regarding people converting to ISO files, the last time I did that it was rather time consuming. Depending on the obvious things like computer speed, HDD and such. Plus it ties the pc up and I rather not have to do that really. If anydvd puts it in then that's different.
I think I'm going to play around with stuff and see how well it works without using Powerdvd. I put up with ffdshow, dscaler, ect for a long time in the past, so I'm use to unstable things.
Surprised to hear it might work from My Movies, didn't think blu-ray really worked good using that, but we can try it again I guess.
Maybe Cyberlink got a check from someone instead of pressure, which amounts to about the same thing.
I'm going to try creating an ISO from the HDD folders and then mounting it with Daemon tools. Assuming it works, let's hope that Cyberlink never figures out how to make us not be able to do this.
what program are you using to create the ISO,
speedys4
11-13-07, 03:15 PM
what program are you using to create the ISO,
I would recommend people to use imageburn, if you've heard about dvd decrypter, imageburn is the new version of dvd decrypter. It used basically the same interface... oh btw it's FREE
http://www.imgburn.com/
I would recommend people to use imageburn, if you've heard about dvd decrypter, imageburn is the new version of dvd decrypter. It used basically the same interface... oh btw it's FREE
http://www.imgburn.com/
i tried that, i am having a problem getting it to work from a folder to create an image its restricting me saying the file is too big for iso the thing is i have made these images before i just cant remember how to do it, can someone give me some quick instruction thank you
i just remembered
i tried that, i am having a problem getting it to work from a folder to create an image its restricting me saying the file is too big for iso the thing is i have made these images before i just cant remember how to do it, can someone give me some quick instruction thank you
N/M i figured it out
N/M i figured it out
For my sake, what's the steps?
B Leisle
11-13-07, 04:32 PM
Cyberlink's response today to my question about HDD playback:
Thank you for contacting CyberLink Online Customer Support.
In regard to your issue, we regret the inconvenience you have encountered so far.
We regret to say that PowerDVD Ultra will not play the HD contents from the hard disc drive and therefore this feature is no more supported by PowerDVD Ultra. The PowerDVD Ultra will only play the HD contents using the Blu Ray Drive or HD DVD Drive. We regret to say that this feature will no more be supported by PowerDVD Ultra software.
Sounds to me like they've removed it intentionally and don't intend on ever returning it.
I'm running 3319f and I am getting the same message as everyone else when I attempt playback from within PowerDVD. When I initiate playback from MyMovies however, the movie still plays fine from the hard drive. So, just to clarify, I can play HD and BD movies from the hard drive with 3319f - I just can't initiate playback from the PowerDVD interface.
What OS are you using and are you using MyMovies 2.30 or 2.31? I tried 3319f.0 with Vista 32/Media Center and MyMovies 2.31 and I get the same error as when I try opening a movie from directly in PowerDVD - a popup says "Internal Error".
For my sake, what's the steps?
the only thing i did was select browse for folder, select build in the "mode" drop down menu and in the options i chose UFD for file system, only UFD worked because all other options said the file was too big. than i mounted the image with DAEMON TOOLS and it played back fine in pwdvd as disk mode
the only thing i did was select browse for folder, select build in the "mode" drop down menu and in the options i chose UFD for file system, only UFD worked because all other options said the file was too big. than i mounted the image with DAEMON TOOLS and it played back fine in pwdvd as disk mode
Is HDCP an issue when doing this? That is, can AnyDVD HD be resident in memory, and PDVDU play movies in this manner?
Is HDCP an issue when doing this? That is, can AnyDVD HD be resident in memory, and PDVDU play movies in this manner?
i didnt have any HDCraP issues anydvd was running
bk1987 - thank you.
glad i could help
I'm running 3319f and I am getting the same message as everyone else when I attempt playback from within PowerDVD. When I initiate playback from MyMovies however, the movie still plays fine from the hard drive. So, just to clarify, I can play HD and BD movies from the hard drive with 3319f - I just can't initiate playback from the PowerDVD interface.
Hmm..mine (3319f) throws an error even if I launch a movie from My Movies..
equivalent
11-13-07, 05:51 PM
bcollins, B Leisle & kapone - Thanks for the info about mymovies. Unfortunately, though I think it's fine for HD-DVD, for blu ray titles playing the main title this way doesn't always work, as for some titles powerDVD chooses the wrong audio track (usually a commentary one), and there's no way to change this by right-clicking etc (see mymovies forum). I can confirm this is true for Fantastic Four (1st film, UK) and LXG (UK), for example.
Good job we have the ISO method, eh? Cheers for that Beefcake, AngelEyes, speedys4 & bk1987!
I would recommend people to use imageburn, if you've heard about dvd decrypter, imageburn is the new version of dvd decrypter. It used basically the same interface... oh btw it's FREE
http://www.imgburn.com/
Forgive my confusion, but does image burn allow you to create a virtual drive so it fools PowerDVD or do you have to burn something?
- Rich
Luar Azul
11-13-07, 06:35 PM
First the difficulty in putting the Radeon 2400 in working condition, now this!
Reading through this thread I've found the perfect and simple solution for me regarding all these problems:
To read more books, get out more, be with my family and friends!
Books are more entertaining than movies, they have more depth, one learns much more from them, exercises the imagination, and, especially, one does not have to give these creeps from Hollywood and elsewhere the satisfaction of earning easy money from imprisoned and poisoned art, vicious publicity and marketing stunts.
Why do we care for the latest movie release anyway?
I have already stopped seeing tv commercials some years ago, and surprisingly, with it the need to see television fell off altogether (I watch less than an hour of tv per week); I never thought the time would come to stop seeing movies too, but, as a matter of fact, I'm beggining to realize that, with few exceptions (like The Fountain, MirrorMask, or the Tim Burton or Clint Eastwwod variety and some others) they dumb the mind more than they pleasure or enhance it... We are taught to be anxious by the next big hit, but in the end, we gain nothing from it, except some vague excitement of the nerves that keeps us on the verge for the next big hit, we see the same commonplaces over and over again, we get distracted from our common and real worries and get immersed into a world of fiction that, like any drug, makes us forget of our real life, of our needed cares, and the most we may get is an even deeper thirst for something really meaningful.
It has all become about money, about creating dependent minds, eager for whatever they're selling, not about the great joy of free splendid thinking and creation! It's not about addressing life's problems, deepening into their source, but about escaping them, creating an illusory world where everything is easy and dandy - like a parallel world that one can buy and hide in for a few bucks.
I don't want to play that game anymore ! No more plastic senseless films for me!! Give me books, give me Plato, Thomas Paine and Thoreau, I'll be hapilly enjoying them and growing with them, and I'll save some electricity too!! ;) Give me real life!
Get all the encription you want, you hollywood busters, I'll get infinitely more from the classics.
speedys4
11-13-07, 07:39 PM
Forgive my confusion, but does image burn allow you to create a virtual drive so it fools PowerDVD or do you have to burn something?
- Rich
Nope...imageburn is use to rip HDDVD/Bluray image (ISO). To mount this ISO to a virtual drive you can use program like daemon tools.
You can dl it for free here http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php
FerPhobos
11-13-07, 08:00 PM
I'm running 3319f with hardware acceleration disabled as arfster pointed out :)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12145545&highlight=HWUVD_DisableH264#post12145545
You must reboot to apply the changes.
The picture quality is better in this software mode. The image is a bit sharper and have more depth. My HTPC have an ATI 2600XT, Windows XP and Intel Core2Duo 6850 @ 3.1 GHz. With the beginning of Spiderman3 (heavy image movement with actor names,... ), the average CPU load is about 55%, with peaks no more great than 65%.
Nevertheless the PQ is not so great as in MPC with ffdshow AVC decoder plus unsharp mask 20, or Zoomplayer with CoreAVC + ffdshow unsharp mask 20. The unsharp gives a nice extra... It´s a pity that Haali not allow to get all the audio formats, not have some audio decoders...
Another subject. I have de DVE Combo Format HDDVD+DVD, but when I try to reproduce in PowerDVD the Audio Tests present in the HDDVD side, the program is selfclosed, not being possible to reproduce such tests. Have someone observed the same problem with PowerDVD?
Thank you
hamish b
11-13-07, 08:04 PM
I asked Cyberlink why I couldn't play my own authored discs from the hard drive. Here is their response:
Thank you for contacting CyberLink Online Support.
We understand your concern related with PowerDVD Ultra.
Please note that PowerDVD Ultra 3319e and 3319f does not support HD content playback from hard drive.
If you try to play HD content from the hard drive, you will get an Error Code: 8090000A. Door is open or disc in not present.
Please feel free to contact us back for any further clarification or for any assistance related to CyberLink Products.
Thank You and Best Regards
wouldn't it be best for cyberlink to actually tell us WHY they've stopped hdd playback not just say its not there
if we heard from them via a post on their web site or an email etc explaining that their hands are tied we'd sympathise a bit more. We would still be peeved but it would make us feel that they arent just thumbing their noses at their paid customers.
B Leisle
11-13-07, 08:39 PM
bcollins, B Leisle & kapone - Thanks for the info about mymovies. Unfortunately, though I think it's fine for HD-DVD, for blu ray titles playing the main title this way doesn't always work, as for some titles powerDVD chooses the wrong audio track (usually a commentary one), and there's no way to change this by right-clicking etc (see mymovies forum). I can confirm this is true for Fantastic Four (1st film, UK) and LXG (UK), for example.
Good job we have the ISO method, eh? Cheers for that Beefcake, AngelEyes, speedys4 & bk1987!
3319f.0 + mymovies 2.31 doesn't work on HD DVDs or Blu-ray, I tried Evan Almighty, Blood Diamond (HD DVD), The Wild and Total Recall. I haven't tried rolling back to 2.30 because there's no Blu-ray support so I'm in no better position.
All we need is mymovies to allow users to auto-mount the ISO into Alcohol, Daemon Tools or whatever you use. Snapstream's Beyond Media has the option to auto-mount Daemon Tools. Maybe we could ask kilrsat from Snapstream to hookup with binnerup and show him how to auto-call the daemon mount procedure. ;)
drsmithdtv
11-13-07, 09:06 PM
This might be a long shot but has anyone tried modifying the HD-DVD's .XPL file to see if playback from HDD can be achieved with 3319e or 3319f that way ?
MentalDragon
11-13-07, 11:17 PM
Wow.. to think I was getting ready to buy this tonight... good thing I came to the forums to read up on it first.
I guess I'll wait until Arcsoft's releases theirs... After reading the recent posts... I don't like how Cyberlink is treating their current customers... App Feature wise and their support... Hopefully companies like Arcsoft are more customer oriented so we don't have to depend on a company like Cyberlink.... Looks like the beginning of the end for Cyberlink.
Guess my HTPC build is on hold as of now.
Beefcake
11-13-07, 11:59 PM
B Leisle:
I haven't tested it myself, but I am pretty sure that my movies does have that automation built in by using Daemon tools. I never went that route as I hadn't needed to. Now, the things have changed and I will be doing it!
-Brian
I am hopeful for Arcsoft; however, I do wonder if they could have their player treat customers decently, given the hostile nature of the studios and their Treat-All-Purchasers-Of-Our-Product-As-Thieves mentality.
equivalent
11-14-07, 04:09 AM
B Leisle: Thanks for mentioning that, wouldn't have thought of it otherwise!
I am pretty sure that my movies does have that automation built in by using Daemon tools. Thanks Brian, I will def. try this, it would be