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sigma957
12-11-07, 05:27 PM
Andy, do you know what the Richvideo service does? I personally don't feel totally comfortable disabling PDVD dependencies (although, my gut feeling is that it is safe to do). I can just imagine getting an ambiguous error message sometime in the future...Rich video is used to improve performance when editing video. It is completely unnecessary (and a waste of resources) if all you do with Cyberlink software is play DVDs.

http://www.cyberlink.com/english/technologies/video-technologies-editing.jsp

MKANET
12-11-07, 05:41 PM
Editing video with what products?

Rich video is used to improve performance when editing video. It is completely unnecessary (and a waste of resources) if all you do with Cyberlink software is play DVDs.

http://www.cyberlink.com/english/technologies/video-technologies-editing.jsp

PhoenixCoyote
12-12-07, 02:04 AM
Is anyone else having trouble getting the new Bourne Ultimatum HD-DVD to play with PowerDVD Ultra? I have the most recent PowerDVD update (3319f) installed. I'm using the Xbox 350 HD-DVD drive with my HTPC. When I put the disc in, PowerDVD gets stuck on the 'Loading...' screen where it tries to download content from the internet. I read there were issues with the Transformers HD-DVD taking awhile to load the first time playing in PowerDVD. I left the Bourne disc in for over 20 minutes and it was still stuck on the Loading screen. If I hook the drive up to my Xbox 360, the Loading screen only displays for less than 30 seconds.

vddobrev
12-12-07, 03:00 AM
Haven't seen Bourne Ultimatum yet but it will be here soon, and I will report. I have experienced multiple crashes with Transformers, either getting stuck in the beginning, or if I leave it on pause for a prolonged time, it will completely screw up my system such as the task bar goes to the top of my screen, and my whole desktop is screwed. Transformers is my only HD-DVD so far, but I had no trouble wit a bunch of Blue-rays. If that's how HD-DVD will [not] work, I will be getting only blu-rays...

Another weird thing happened while I was watching The Fifth Element. I decided to open up PDVD settings and see what options are there for the sound, since this Blu-ray only has Dolby TruHD and PCM. The OEM version of PDVD is NOT supposed to let you downmix to DTS, but l was able to select it, and the movie played in DD 5.1 !!! However, I had to stop the movie, and later when I wanted to continue watching, although the downmix to DTS was selected, it had no effect.

kylebisme
12-12-07, 03:08 AM
The OEM version of PDVD is NOT supposed to let you downmix to DTS, but l was able to select it, and the movie played in DD 5.1 !!!
Yeah, the surround sound options work for PCM tracks, but TrueHD with the OEM player is limited to 2.0.

XxDeadlyxX
12-12-07, 03:27 AM
Is anyone else having trouble getting the new Bourne Ultimatum HD-DVD to play with PowerDVD Ultra? I have the most recent PowerDVD update (3319f) installed. I'm using the Xbox 350 HD-DVD drive with my HTPC. When I put the disc in, PowerDVD gets stuck on the 'Loading...' screen where it tries to download content from the internet. I read there were issues with the Transformers HD-DVD taking awhile to load the first time playing in PowerDVD. I left the Bourne disc in for over 20 minutes and it was still stuck on the Loading screen. If I hook the drive up to my Xbox 360, the Loading screen only displays for less than 30 seconds.

Update to build 3516. Build 3516 is the first to support Web Features on discs like Transformers, so hopefully it will fix the problem.

HappyFunBoater
12-12-07, 06:48 AM
I like to keep my PowerDVD program shortcut in a subfolder called Multimedia. (I'm talking about the shortcut that you get to by selecting Start->All Programs.) I also like to keep all the shortcuts in the All User folder, not the individual user folders.

But every time I boot PowerDVD is recreating the shortcuts in the user root folder. How the heck do I stop it from doing this?

Sorry for the bump, but does anyone have a solution? Thanks.

pospower
12-12-07, 07:03 AM
Does anyone have a link to the latest version of PowerDVD Ultra HD that will play movies off my hard drive. I am a fully paid customer and upgraded and now I can't play my HD movies from my hard drive. thanks in advance. I'll even pay someone to ship me a copy if the file is too big. Again I have a key I paid for this program when it came out.

blingo
12-12-07, 07:11 AM
Does anyone have a link to the latest version of PowerDVD Ultra HD that will play movies off my hard drive. I am a fully paid customer and upgraded and now I can't play my HD movies from my hard drive. thanks in advance. I'll even pay someone to ship me a copy if the file is too big. Again I have a key I paid for this program when it came out.

Just down 2911 or 3319a of a torrent site and use your real serial key. If you dont want to do this contact CS and tell them you want a previous release.

subliminac
12-12-07, 08:52 AM
I installed this combo drive last night, along with the PowerDVD software that came bundled with it. Initially everything appeared fine, the computer recognized the drive, and I was prompted to download the software patch, which I did. The problem is every disk I throw at it, from Blu-Ray to regular DVD won't play back properly. The audio stutters like a skipping CD, and the video plays back in a extremely jerky, slow motion-like fashion. I tried playing a regular DVD though Windows Media Player on the new drive and it worked fine. I am running an Intel Dual-Core with 3 Gigs of Ram and a NVIDA 8500GT card. I'm sure this would be more than sufficient to handle it. This leads me to believe it is a software issue alone. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Especially after the curse filled evening I passed last night!

Evil4blue
12-12-07, 09:33 AM
Anyone using the Dolby Digital EX option in PowerDVD to expand 5.1 to 7.1? I have a nice 7.1 system with the retail version of PowerDVD Ultra and have no problems with the 5.1 sound using analog output. Just wondering what the sentiment here is about having the 5.1 sound remixed and output to 7.1? Truthfully, I haven't tried it yet since I'm still exploring all the options within PowerDVD, but I will give it a try tonight when I get my Netflix delivery.

MickeyDora
12-12-07, 09:51 AM
Is anyone else having trouble getting the new Bourne Ultimatum HD-DVD to play with PowerDVD Ultra? I have the most recent PowerDVD update (3319f) installed. I'm using the Xbox 350 HD-DVD drive with my HTPC. When I put the disc in, PowerDVD gets stuck on the 'Loading...' screen where it tries to download content from the internet. I read there were issues with the Transformers HD-DVD taking awhile to load the first time playing in PowerDVD. I left the Bourne disc in for over 20 minutes and it was still stuck on the Loading screen. If I hook the drive up to my Xbox 360, the Loading screen only displays for less than 30 seconds.

Another option is to rip the disc to your hard drive and renaming (or deleting) the largest numbered XPL.

Rathbone
12-12-07, 10:34 AM
Update to build 3516. Build 3516 is the first to support Web Features on discs like Transformers, so hopefully it will fix the problem.


Don't be so sure about that. I tried to play the web enabled features of the german HD-DVDs of Ghost Faced Killer and Crank. Both have web features, which don't work with 3516. I think they have to implement the features for each title seperately. :eek:

andersa
12-12-07, 11:07 AM
Is anyone else having trouble getting the new Bourne Ultimatum HD-DVD to play with PowerDVD Ultra? I have the most recent PowerDVD update (3319f) installed. I'm using the Xbox 350 HD-DVD drive with my HTPC. When I put the disc in, PowerDVD gets stuck on the 'Loading...' screen where it tries to download content from the internet. I read there were issues with the Transformers HD-DVD taking awhile to load the first time playing in PowerDVD. I left the Bourne disc in for over 20 minutes and it was still stuck on the Loading screen. If I hook the drive up to my Xbox 360, the Loading screen only displays for less than 30 seconds.

I watched it yesterday wihout any problems. I'm still using 3319 (w/o a letter) and simply hit cancel everytime PDVD wants to update. The web stuff did not work though, but doesn't concern me.

So far 3319 has played everything I have thrown at it. I'm not using anyDVD either btw.

Al Sherwood
12-12-07, 11:51 AM
Anyone using the Dolby Digital EX option in PowerDVD to expand 5.1 to 7.1? I have a nice 7.1 system with the retail version of PowerDVD Ultra and have no problems with the 5.1 sound using analog output. Just wondering what the sentiment here is about having the 5.1 sound remixed and output to 7.1? Truthfully, I haven't tried it yet since I'm still exploring all the options within PowerDVD, but I will give it a try tonight when I get my Netflix delivery.


Remind me... where is that option found?

Al Sherwood
12-12-07, 12:00 PM
Yeah, the surround sound options work for PCM tracks, but TrueHD with the OEM player is limited to 2.0.

Are we talking about SPDIF mixing here?

I was aware that this was only possible with uncompressed sound tracks, I didn't know it was also PDVD version dependant?

As for sound tracks on BD movies (Cars and Ratatouille for example), what about the uncompressed soundtracks on these. I was under the impression that specific stanalone players could provide TrueHD sound, but how does PowerDVD handle these?

The reason I ask, my only audio connection from the HTPC is SPDIF, I get multichannel sound on BD movies, but IIRC the AV receiver shows PCM comming in from the SPDIF connection.

I read the information on the soundtrack for BD Cars:

Dolby Digital Formats:
- English 5.1 (640 kbps)

DTS Formats:
- None

PCM Formats:
- English 5.1 (24 bit/48 kHz)

Evil4blue
12-12-07, 12:23 PM
Remind me... where is that option found?

On the audio tab in configuration. You can pick Dolby Prologic IIx, under the output drop down, and then click the advanced button and select DDEX. That's it.

Al Sherwood
12-12-07, 12:28 PM
On the audio tab in configuration. You can pick Dolby Prologic IIx, under the output drop down, and then click the advanced button and select DDEX. That's it.

Hmmmm, I'll have to take a look for that. Thanks!

salacious
12-12-07, 02:01 PM
Anyone using the Dolby Digital EX option in PowerDVD to expand 5.1 to 7.1? I have a nice 7.1 system with the retail version of PowerDVD Ultra and have no problems with the 5.1 sound using analog output. Just wondering what the sentiment here is about having the 5.1 sound remixed and output to 7.1? Truthfully, I haven't tried it yet since I'm still exploring all the options within PowerDVD, but I will give it a try tonight when I get my Netflix delivery.

You can get various DVDs which have been mixed for 6.1 e.g DD EX or DTS ES titles. I know Star Wars Ep 1-3 (DD EX) and the Lord of the Rings (DD EX and DTS ES 6.1) are encoded this way. The newer THX Optimizer tests are 6.1 enabled so it is a way to test your speaker setup and make sure that PowerDVD is working properly

Don't be so sure about that. I tried to play the web enabled features of the german HD-DVDs of Ghost Faced Killer and Crank. Both have web features, which don't work with 3516. I think they have to implement the features for each title seperately. :eek:

Build 3516 fixed the online features for Knocked Up. Heroes no longer sits at the loading screen like it use to on disc 2 but the online content doesn't work

sigma957
12-12-07, 02:23 PM
II am running an Intel Dual-Core with 3 Gigs of Ram and a NVIDA 8500GT card. I'm sure this would be more than sufficient to handle it.Are you runnning XP or Vista? The 8500GT does not work well in XP.

Jimwesternguy
12-12-07, 02:37 PM
I installed this combo drive last night, along with the PowerDVD software that came bundled with it. Initially everything appeared fine, the computer recognized the drive, and I was prompted to download the software patch, which I did. The problem is every disk I throw at it, from Blu-Ray to regular DVD won't play back properly. The audio stutters like a skipping CD, and the video plays back in a extremely jerky, slow motion-like fashion. I tried playing a regular DVD though Windows Media Player on the new drive and it worked fine. I am running an Intel Dual-Core with 3 Gigs of Ram and a NVIDA 8500GT card. I'm sure this would be more than sufficient to handle it. This leads me to believe it is a software issue alone. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Especially after the curse filled evening I passed last night!

I had the same problem...I ended up doing a clean install of Vista and Cyberlink. That fixed the problem but I still don't know what the underlying issue was.

ssaeed
12-12-07, 03:21 PM
guys,
my video card Radeon 3850 supports 24Hz out and so does my TV. Will PowerDVD output at 24Hz assuming that blurary and hddvd movies from my LG combo player output at 24hz?

Thanks

vddobrev
12-12-07, 03:30 PM
Are we talking about SPDIF mixing here?

I was aware that this was only possible with uncompressed sound tracks, I didn't know it was also PDVD version dependant?

Thank you, you just saved me $99 as I am not going to upgrade to PDVD Retail. The key word was "uncompressed sound". I put in The Fifth Element and this time I selected uncompressed. Yes, SPDIF mixing to 5.1 DTS works fine with the OEM version. Here is how:

1. Before you start playing the movie, make sure you have SPDIF selected. You have to do this each and every time you start the movie [e.g. if you have stopped it to take a break] because PDVD OEM will default it back to 2 Channel.
2. Start playing the movie, and select PCM uncompressed sound.
3. Open Audio Settings and select Enable SPDIF Mixing and Mixing-DTS.

So no need for me to upgrade to retail until they fix their bug, as the OEM is supposed to be 2 Channel ;)

sigma957
12-12-07, 03:37 PM
Editing video with what products?From the information I've seen on it, Rich video is usually associated with Cyberlink PowerDirector. I don't know what function(s) in PowerDVD could use it. Maybe frame capture?

NaTT
12-12-07, 05:18 PM
Bourne Supremacy experiences

Vista 32 Ultimate
8600GT, 163.69
4200+ dual core
PDVD Ultra 733104
Xbox360 HD-DVD
AnyDVD latest as of today (plus update when it saw I'd bought this specific movie!)
UK copy of movie HD_DVD from play.com £17.99 (half an hour to go to get a copy off of newsgroups in preperation of it not workng)

What a load of B*ll*cks.
(not the movie. loved that once I got it to play)

Anydvd said, ooh it BourneS you need an update, dya wanit? YES.
Followed by hard reboot from a hang :mad:

Only way to play it I found was to say no to any calls to go to the internet ref java. Just say no.
PDVD wanted to load important updates. just say no. *rse to that, I need to play off of HDD if playing purchased movies is this hard....
Then it went to about 2 frames a second through the menu. Hung. Wouldn't let me close PDVD or anyDVD. had to reboot.

Kept the evil that was the disc out whilst re-booting. Stopped AnyDVD.
Played movie. Said no to any internet requests or suggestions that I disable PDVD by upgrading inportant updates.

It played smooth. And stopped every 5 mins requireing me to slect another tiem in the movie before continuing, until about 27mins in and hung the PC.
Would it shutdown? No hung at logging off, so had to hard re-start.

installed that jap version of TotalMediaExtremeTrial. It hang at the java call and wouldn't cancel.
Hard re-boot.
AnyDVD and PDVD running tried again.
Played fine in PDVD
Great movie, buy it on DVD.

Al Sherwood
12-12-07, 06:04 PM
guys,
my video card Radeon 3850 supports 24Hz out and so does my TV. Will PowerDVD output at 24Hz assuming that blurary and hddvd movies from my LG combo player output at 24hz?

Thanks

My HTPC with the HD2600Pro connected to a BenQ W9000 shows 1080p24 when playing back BD and HDDVD movies.... :)

Al Sherwood
12-12-07, 06:15 PM
Thank you, you just saved me $99 as I am not going to upgrade to PDVD Retail. The key word was "uncompressed sound". I put in The Fifth Element and this time I selected uncompressed. Yes, SPDIF mixing to 5.1 DTS works fine with the OEM version. Here is how:

1. Before you start playing the movie, make sure you have SPDIF selected. You have to do this each and every time you start the movie [e.g. if you have stopped it to take a break] because PDVD OEM will default it back to 2 Channel.
2. Start playing the movie, and select PCM uncompressed sound.
3. Open Audio Settings and select Enable SPDIF Mixing and Mixing-DTS.

So no need for me to upgrade to retail until they fix their bug, as the OEM is supposed to be 2 Channel ;)

Glad I could save you a couple of bucks!

Interesting that your selection of SPDIF doesn't stick, because mine does, and I am pretty sure that it did in the OEM version and 3319F (now at 3516).

Did you see this post the Dolby Digital EX option in PowerDVD to expand 5.1 to 7.1? Originally Posted by Evil4blue
On the audio tab in configuration. You can pick Dolby Prologic IIx, under the output drop down, and then click the advanced button and select DDEX. That's it.

vddobrev
12-12-07, 06:58 PM
Glad I could save you a couple of bucks!

Interesting that your selection of SPDIF doesn't stick, because mine does, and I am pretty sure that it did in the OEM version and 3319F (now at 3516).

Did you see this post the Dolby Digital EX option in PowerDVD to expand 5.1 to 7.1?

The SPDIF sticks, as long as I watch movies that have DD or DD+ sound. When I insert a movie that does not have DD but only has PCM and the new HD sound formats, the movie starts playing in 2 channels. I then have to manually stop playback, then selelct SPDIF, and SPDIF Mixing. I guess this is what they mean by the OEM is 2CH.
Yes, I saw the post about DD EX, but I am not interested in it.

vddobrev
12-12-07, 07:04 PM
Is anyone else annoyed at that red and cheesy background of PDVD with the woman holding up a disc? And the cheesy slogan "The No. 1 player...". Hoestly, I am not aware of any other player that puts advertising on the background of their products. Afterall we already own it, why put slogans in the background.
Any hint on how to change the background?

Davinleeds
12-12-07, 07:10 PM
see post 4403

vddobrev
12-12-07, 07:17 PM
see post 4403

Perfect! Thanks a lot!

salacious
12-12-07, 07:18 PM
The background isn't a good advert for disc handling :D

georgeorwell
12-12-07, 07:20 PM
Try Daily Desktops Girl!

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=466767&st=60

Davinleeds
12-12-07, 07:30 PM
So the next question is... how do you get rid of all the logos?

jatoghia
12-12-07, 09:51 PM
Hey, has everybody forgotten about my overscan problem? I have tickets in with Cyberlink and XFX (the makers of my GeForce 8400GS card) and I'm still fighting with the problem that using the DVI->HDMI connection to hook my PC up to my 1080P DLP television I am able to size the screen properly (using the manual screen resize in the nVidia control panel), but as soon as I begin playback of a high definition movie in PowerDVD, or as soon as I start to watch high definition content in BeyondTV4, or as soon as I launch DVDShrink (which seems to be the outlier here, since it is the only non-HD application that does this), my screen overscans the display. It is as if the overscan compensation that I am controlling with the nVidia control panel is being turned off. If I attempt to resize the screen DURING these applications, the player either flashes for a while and then fails with a message that that I don't have HDCP support (which isn't true) or with the latest drivers, the player doesn't even allow me to resize the screen during the playback of high-definition content.

Anyway, as soon as the application exits (or I stop the playback of high definition content in PowerDVD) the screen shrinks back down to the correct size to fit on my TV display.

One last piece of information is that this problem only occurs with the DVI connection and not with the analog VGA connection.

Like I said, I have technical support tickets open with both Cyberlink and XFX. I'm not getting anywhere and its been nearly two weeks. Can ANYBODY help me, PLEASE???

Airscape
12-12-07, 10:13 PM
Lots of good information here but I have a question.

Does anybody have this working with the Intel G33 in XP?
Looks like people have no issues with the G33 in Vista. I have been trying to get it to work in XP but keep getting the driver not supported message.

If you do have the G33 working in XP what driver version are you using?

Jim HTPC
12-12-07, 10:58 PM
I just played Spiderman 3 via PowerDVD using the SPDIF mixing to DTS. WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP-O!!!

I selected uncompressed and my processor did say DTS. The problem is this high frequency metallic ringing that is very annoying. It was very prominent during the scene when Harry comes too @ the hospital and Mary Jane walks in.

Has anyone else heard this high frequency ringing?

archibael
12-13-07, 12:47 AM
Lots of good information here but I have a question.

Does anybody have this working with the Intel G33 in XP?
Looks like people have no issues with the G33 in Vista. I have been trying to get it to work in XP but keep getting the driver not supported message.

If you do have the G33 working in XP what driver version are you using?

Nope. BD/HD DVD not supported on Intel graphics in XP. Sorry.

drsmithdtv
12-13-07, 06:03 AM
With PowerDVD I am getting the occasional pause and stutter on video with DVD playback every 10 or 15 minutes or so. This is both from HDD and disc.

HD-DVD playback is fine from both disc and HDD (version 3516 with some program files copied from an eariler version).

Pion
12-13-07, 10:15 AM
I just played Spiderman 3 via PowerDVD using the SPDIF mixing to DTS. WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP-O!!!

I selected uncompressed and my processor did say DTS. The problem is this high frequency metallic ringing that is very annoying. It was very prominent during the scene when Harry comes too @ the hospital and Mary Jane walks in.

Has anyone else heard this high frequency ringing?

I was getting the same high frequency distortion when using DTS mixing for PCM audio track of underworld and underworld evolution. I don't know if I would call it a ringing sound, but higher frequency sounds are definitely badly distorted. I have to settle for regular dolby for the time being. :(

Airscape
12-13-07, 12:32 PM
Nope. BD/HD DVD not supported on Intel graphics in XP. Sorry.

Awesome. Thanks for the info, will grab vista this evening.

Andy o
12-13-07, 05:01 PM
I was getting the same high frequency distortion when using DTS mixing for PCM audio track of underworld and underworld evolution. I don't know if I would call it a ringing sound, but higher frequency sounds are definitely badly distorted. I have to settle for regular dolby for the time being. :(

Hmm, I thought it might be something related to high-frequency AA filters that could make the high frequencies harsh, but I recently saw those movies, and if I remember correctly they were 48 kHz, so there should be no frequency downsampling. I wonder what it can be.

skibum5000
12-13-07, 06:58 PM
Hmm, I thought it might be something related to high-frequency AA filters that could make the high frequencies harsh, but I recently saw those movies, and if I remember correctly they were 48 kHz, so there should be no frequency downsampling. I wonder what it can be.

maybe doing a bad compression job and not filtering the compressed DTS properly?? just a guess though.
some crappy MP3 encoders at low rates used to have some nasty very high pitched artifacts.

Andy o
12-14-07, 12:04 AM
Holy crap, I just tested Underworld Evolution with S/PDIF mixing. It is horrible. It is a high-frequency pitch, but it doesn't seem to come from high-frequency sounds only. It seems to sound whenever there's something else sounding (even on dialogue and such). It seems the Cyberlink DTS mixing is doing this. When outputting in 8 channels to the sound card, and converting to DTS via my card's DTS Interactive output, there's no such ringing, and the sound seems OK.

But I don't see a big problem here, don't all discs have at least a Dolby Digital track? For DD+ discs, recompression to DD is automatic, and it's pretty much flawless too.

h8redv2
12-14-07, 03:07 AM
Blu-ray Iso gives me an 80040216 error in latest bulid of powerdvd ultra.
Hi I have Die Hard 4.0 ripped til my hdd, since playback has been disabled i have created an udf 1.02 iso with imgburn.
I mount it in daemon tools (latest) and powerdvd gives me internal error 80040216 (as i recall)
Is this because of my homemade iso or is it the player that needs an upgrade ?

equivalent
12-14-07, 05:46 AM
I don't know if it will help, but you can preserve the disc's UDF structure by switching to 'Read' mode in Imgburn, with AnyDVDHD in the background.

BigWorm2005GT
12-14-07, 06:31 AM
OK, silly question: Does the OEM version of PowerDVD not play standard DVD's? I've tried a few of mine and the player simply locks up on them.

The player built into XP MCE gives me an error message that it can't play the discs, either. It says I have to lower the resolution or some such. I'm using HDMI output to an HDCP-compliant television (which shouldn't be a factor on DVD's, anyway).

Did PowerDVD break MCE, too? Thanks!

BW

daniz24
12-14-07, 09:18 AM
hi guys im very new in here

i having a problem play BD using PowerDVD 3319 integrated with Vista MCE. When I play from my movies gallery, the movie is a little bit weird. The menu aren't there, and when you press skip (next) it goes off.

But when I play BD using PowerDVD-Play from harddisk, it played normal just like HDDVD's. Help me guys, thanks

daniz

trbarry
12-14-07, 09:29 AM
My apologies for not going back and reading the previous 76+ pages where this may be answered.

Can the newest PowerDVD play BD+ discs yet (without any other 3rd party cracking software)?

- Tom

laguna_b
12-14-07, 11:53 AM
OK, silly question: Does the OEM version of PowerDVD not play standard DVD's? I've tried a few of mine and the player simply locks up on them.

The player built into XP MCE gives me an error message that it can't play the discs, either. It says I have to lower the resolution or some such. I'm using HDMI output to an HDCP-compliant television (which shouldn't be a factor on DVD's, anyway).

Did PowerDVD break MCE, too? Thanks!

BW

I was able to get it to play regular DVDs fine in MCE and XP. Just don't update beyond 3319 if you want to maintain easy playing of HD from HDD.

sarah99
12-14-07, 01:44 PM
My apologies for not going back and reading the previous 76+ pages where this may be answered.

Can the newest PowerDVD play BD+ discs yet (without any other 3rd party cracking software)?

- Tom

v3104 onwards can play BD+

sigma957
12-14-07, 01:45 PM
But I don't see a big problem here, don't all discs have at least a Dolby Digital track? For DD+ discs, recompression to DD is automatic, and it's pretty much flawless too.Not necessarily. Spiderman 3 has only PCM and TrueHD soundtracks. PDVD will convert TrueHD to 2 channel PCM, but for full 5.1 sound via SPDIF, "SPDIF Mixing" is the only option. I have also experienced the "ringing" sound using SPDIF mixing. I thought maybe it was my equipment, but now I know it's a PDVD problem.

Andy o
12-14-07, 02:11 PM
Not necessarily. Spiderman 3 has only PCM and TrueHD soundtracks. PDVD will convert TrueHD to 2 channel PCM, but for full 5.1 sound via SPDIF, "SPDIF Mixing" is the only option. I have also experienced the "ringing" sound using SPDIF mixing. I thought maybe it was my equipment, but now I know it's a PDVD problem.

Hmm. I'd have thought at least DD was mandatory for blu-ray. I used to like HD-DVD more, but it blu-ray's interface plays better with PowerDVD. Probably with standalone players the issues would be gone with the interface. So still what I don't like about blu-ray is its lack of standardizing.

Al Sherwood
12-14-07, 04:11 PM
Blu-ray Iso gives me an 80040216 error in latest bulid of powerdvd ultra.
Hi I have Die Hard 4.0 ripped til my hdd, since playback has been disabled i have created an udf 1.02 iso with imgburn.
I mount it in daemon tools (latest) and powerdvd gives me internal error 80040216 (as i recall)
Is this because of my homemade iso or is it the player that needs an upgrade ?

I followed equivalent' suggestion: you can preserve the disc's UDF structure by switching to 'Read' mode in Imgburn, with AnyDVDHD in the background.

It worked for me on Casino Royal and Fifth Element... I haven't tried DH4 yet.

skibum5000
12-14-07, 08:45 PM
Not necessarily. Spiderman 3 has only PCM and TrueHD soundtracks. PDVD will convert TrueHD to 2 channel PCM, but for full 5.1 sound via SPDIF, "SPDIF Mixing" is the only option. I have also experienced the "ringing" sound using SPDIF mixing. I thought maybe it was my equipment, but now I know it's a PDVD problem.

why not just use a good soundcard and put out 5.1 analog? it'll be much better quality anyway.

jeffreydeng
12-14-07, 08:51 PM
Blu-ray Iso gives me an 80040216 error in latest bulid of powerdvd ultra.
Hi I have Die Hard 4.0 ripped til my hdd, since playback has been disabled i have created an udf 1.02 iso with imgburn.
I mount it in daemon tools (latest) and powerdvd gives me internal error 80040216 (as i recall)
Is this because of my homemade iso or is it the player that needs an upgrade ?

I am using PDVD 3319a with ripped DH4 in HDD and it plays well. But DH4 is not in iso format. However I have ripped Spider man 3, 28 weeks later etc. in ISO and had no problem so far.

BY the way I am using ImgBurn 2.3.2.0

Andy o
12-15-07, 03:40 AM
I have noticed there's yet another unnecessary (?) process that PowerDVD 3156 puts at the startup, for a total of 4 sneak-crapware processes (language.exe, richvideo.exe, pdvdserv.exe, and now brd.exe). Anyone knows what this new one BRD.EXE does? It said blu-ray region or something in the description (I already obliterated it with Autoruns before I could copy exactly what it said).

And by the way, there's been another process piggybacking powerdvd.exe, CLHelper.exe, but this one only runs when PowerDVD runs, not at startup. Why put so much sneakware? It is a disturbing trend, what with iTunes doing the same thing.

MKANET
12-15-07, 03:58 AM
Logitech webcam software/drivers are by far the worst at doing this.. They go as far as inserting a lower level class driver file in ALL your multimedia drivers (sound cards, video capture cards, etc) "LVUSBSta.sys". you will see this file in all your A/V device drivers (driver file details) if you have any kind of logitech webcam installed.

I have noticed there's yet another unnecessary (?) process that PowerDVD 3156 puts at the startup, for a total of 4 sneak-crapware processes (language.exe, richvideo.exe, pdvdserv.exe, and now brd.exe). Anyone knows what this new one BRD.EXE does? It said blu-ray region or something in the description (I already obliterated it with Autoruns before I could copy exactly what it said).

And by the way, there's been another process piggybacking powerdvd.exe, CLHelper.exe, but this one only runs when PowerDVD runs, not at startup. Why put so much sneakware? It is a disturbing trend, what with iTunes doing the same thing.

rdunnill
12-15-07, 04:41 AM
I just got PowerDVD Ultra working last night, and it plays HD-DVD and Blu-Ray fine. However, an Anchor Bay SDVD title (Straight On Till Morning) exhibits with jerky motion and shearing; anyone know the reason why? The same title plays fine in Vista MCE.

Video card is MSI 8500GT under Vista Home Premium x64.

Rathbone
12-15-07, 11:02 AM
I have noticed there's yet another unnecessary (?) process that PowerDVD 3156 puts at the startup, for a total of 4 sneak-crapware processes (language.exe, richvideo.exe, pdvdserv.exe, and now brd.exe). Anyone knows what this new one BRD.EXE does? It said blu-ray region or something in the description (I already obliterated it with Autoruns before I could copy exactly what it said).

And by the way, there's been another process piggybacking powerdvd.exe, CLHelper.exe, but this one only runs when PowerDVD runs, not at startup. Why put so much sneakware? It is a disturbing trend, what with iTunes doing the same thing.

I can only find brs.exe, no brd.exe. Typo?

Al Sherwood
12-15-07, 11:05 AM
I just got PowerDVD Ultra working last night, and it plays HD-DVD and Blu-Ray fine. However, an Anchor Bay SDVD title (Straight On Till Morning) exhibits with jerky motion and shearing; anyone know the reason why? The same title plays fine in Vista MCE.

Video card is MSI 8500GT under Vista Home Premium x64.

Quite likely an issue of codecs, which ones are being used by PowerDVD to play back the movie. See post #4282

I had a similar thing when I payed back SDVD on MCE and in WMP, eventually a utility was suggested that allowedme to display which codec was in use... and I could ensure the correct one was enabled.

http://mediacenterexpert.blogspot.co...r-utility.html

Rathbone
12-15-07, 11:38 AM
YEAHHHH!!!

I found a way to crack the 3516 BD region protection. Works!

Vista: Delete X:\ProgramData\CyberLink\BDNAV\brf.dat

Will be regenerated with 5 new changes when you start PDVD.

I won't tell you how I found it, in case Cyberlink reads here.

EDIT: I cracked the file to get more changes than 5, but is doesn't go higher as 6.

kbiz
12-15-07, 01:19 PM
Hardware/software:

Vista Ultimate 32-bit
Sound Blaster Audigy SE
PowerDVD Ultra 7.3.3516
LG BD/HD DVD combo drive

Vista settings:

Sounds>Playback>Speakers>Custom - Digital Output Only (selected)
Sounds>Playback>Digital Audio Interface (set as default device)
Sounds>Playback>Digital Audio Interface>Supported Formats - DTS Audio (selected)
Sounds>Playback>Digital Audio Interface>Supported Formats - Dolby Digital (selected)
Sounds>Playback>Digital Audio Interface>Supported Formats - 44.1 KHz (selected)
Sounds>Playback>Digital Audio Interface>Supported Formats - 48.0 KHz (selected)

Creative Audio Console settings:

all default

PowerDVD settings:

Audio>Speaker Environment - Use SPDIF

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Hello. I'm hoping you guys can help me out.

I can't hear digital audio (DD 5.1, etc.) through my Onkyo receiver using PowerDVD Ultra. If I set the Speaker Environment to SPDIF in the PowerDVD audio settings, there is no sound. If I play a HD/BD disc, the audio setting is automatically set back to 2 speaker and I can't even select SPDIF as an option. Can anyone please advise me how to fix these problems.

If I play the same (non HD/BD) DVD using Vista Media Center (using the same above settings), I can output digital audio without a problem.

FYI, I have VLC Player, Xvid codec, and AC3Filter installed. Also, CCMP and K-Lite codec packs have been (but are not currently) installed on this PC.

Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.

Andy o
12-15-07, 01:57 PM
I can only find brs.exe, no brd.exe. Typo?

Yes, sorry. BRS.EXE

Rathbone
12-15-07, 02:14 PM
Here are 3 Files for every BD region with 6 changes each. Just copy and rename them to brf.dat

Andy o
12-15-07, 03:02 PM
Hardware/software:

Vista Ultimate 32-bit
Sound Blaster Audigy SE
PowerDVD Ultra 7.3.3516
LG BD/HD DVD combo drive

Vista settings:

Sounds>Playback>Speakers>Custom - Digital Output Only (selected)
Sounds>Playback>Digital Audio Interface (set as default device)
Sounds>Playback>Digital Audio Interface>Supported Formats - DTS Audio (selected)
Sounds>Playback>Digital Audio Interface>Supported Formats - Dolby Digital (selected)
Sounds>Playback>Digital Audio Interface>Supported Formats - 44.1 KHz (selected)
Sounds>Playback>Digital Audio Interface>Supported Formats - 48.0 KHz (selected)

Creative Audio Console settings:

all default

PowerDVD settings:

Audio>Speaker Environment - Use SPDIF

-------

Hello. I'm hoping you guys can help me out.

I can't hear digital audio (DD 5.1, etc.) through my Onkyo receiver using PowerDVD Ultra. If I set the Speaker Environment to SPDIF in the PowerDVD audio settings, there is no sound. If I play a HD/BD disc, the audio setting is automatically set back to 2 speaker and I can't even select SPDIF as an option. Can anyone please advise me how to fix these problems.

If I play the same (non HD/BD) DVD using Vista Media Center (using the same above settings), I can output digital audio without a problem.

FYI, I have VLC Player, Xvid codec, and AC3Filter installed. Also, CCMP and K-Lite codec packs have been (but are not currently) installed on this PC.

Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.

Hmm I have had trouble with AC3filter and other AC3 codecs installed, try disabling AC3Filter for S/PDIF, or giving it a lower priority, those kinds of things. Though my problem with PowerDVD was that it froze, not it changing to 2 channels, so it might be something else.

kbiz
12-15-07, 07:18 PM
Thank you Andy o for thinking about my problem.

Problem solved - what a relief! Also, what a pain to play BD/HD DVD with digital audio on the PC. It takes a lot of tribal knowledge to make everything work smoothly. Well, at least with Vista. Probably other platforms too...

I uninstalled every 3rd party player/codec/splitter/filter and then simply uninstalled PowerDVD and reinstalled it. I have the free PowerDVD edition that came with my LG BD/HD combo drive. I kept all Vista/PowerDVD audio settings the same as I listed in my previous post. After I installed it, it gave me the "must update" BS so I did. I updated to the latest version (7.3.5616?) which took 45 min at CyberLink's "ultra" slow download speeds. It worked.

Now, I can play both regular and HD/BD DVDs with digital audio through my receiver.

I'm in a good mood now. :)

kbiz
12-15-07, 07:18 PM
I guess I can't post a URL without three posts...

Plus, thanks to these awesome forums, I learned how to sh!tcan that PowerDVD skin with the red smilin' lady for a simple black skin - thank you, thank you, thank you. Get it here halfway down the page:

http://www.nathanm.com/myprojects/

daniz24
12-15-07, 07:33 PM
hi guys im very new in here

i having a problem play BD using PowerDVD 3319 integrated with Vista MCE. When I play from my movies gallery, the movie is a little bit weird. The menu aren't there, and when you press skip (next) it goes off.

But when I play BD using PowerDVD-Play from harddisk, it played normal just like HDDVD's. Help me guys, thanks

daniz

anyone can help??

ReEpAaPaA
12-16-07, 01:37 AM
Hello..really curious how to get HD acceleration going in PowerDvd 7XX when playing a HD DVD.. Below are my specs and even with Hardware Acceleration checked in the PowerDVD settings, I still get 90% or more utilization in Task Manager. I have applied the tweak reg file. Any help would be appreciated as I thought I had the horsepower to run HD / Bly ray content.

Vista 32
1 GB Ram
T2500
2600XT PCIe
PowerDVD 7XX w/HD Patches
LG HD DVD / Blu Ray combo Player
DVI -> HDMI output
All hardware HDCP Compliant
Latest Catalyst and Vivo drivers / codecs

druid01
12-16-07, 04:24 AM
YEAHHHH!!!

I found a way to crack the 3516 BD region protection. Works!

Vista: Delete X:\ProgramData\CyberLink\BDNAV\brf.dat

Will be regenerated with 5 new changes when you start PDVD.

I won't tell you how I found it, in case Cyberlink reads here.

EDIT: I cracked the file to get more changes than 5, but is doesn't go higher as 6.


Thanks, this is a godsend, many of my title's are region A and I had a mini heart attack when i installed 3516.

p.s wonder why 6 is the limit

Andy o
12-16-07, 04:43 AM
Hey, so what did I miss? Did 3516 introduce some region stuff as well? I'm sure this is related to the new process brs.exe, but can someone explain to me how? I have brs.exe killed, but I am guessing were I not using AnyDVD it would give me trouble with other region blu-rays.

rdunnill
12-16-07, 05:17 AM
Quite likely an issue of codecs, which ones are being used by PowerDVD to play back the movie. See post #4282

I had a similar thing when I payed back SDVD on MCE and in WMP, eventually a utility was suggested that allowedme to display which codec was in use... and I could ensure the correct one was enabled.

http://mediacenterexpert.blogspot.co...r-utility.htmlThat
After 8 hours, I still can't get an answer. PowerDVD and TheaterTek SDVD playback is jerky, although that of Blu-Ray and HD-DVD is superb.

As a last resort, I am going to clean-format the drive and reinstall Vista, the drivers, and PowerDVD from scratch. Also, is there any alternative to PowerDVD/WinDVD/Theatertek for SDVD playback? Or am I better off mothballing the HTPC solution altogether and buying a Blu-Ray companion to the A3? If I can't use my 700-title SDVD collection, an HTPC is of little use.

kapone
12-16-07, 05:23 AM
Chances are that it's the NVidia drivers (since you are using 64 bit Vista), that are causing these issues.

Rathbone
12-16-07, 07:09 AM
Hey, so what did I miss? Did 3516 introduce some region stuff as well? I'm sure this is related to the new process brs.exe, but can someone explain to me how? I have brs.exe killed, but I am guessing were I not using AnyDVD it would give me trouble with other region blu-rays.


Until 3319 the region counter has been stored in some unprotected .ini file. Then they introduced a new hidden service called brs.exe and moved the region to another place. I searched the whole time in the registry cause I tought they moved it in there. With a new tool we use to debug windows applications in my company I could trace the brs.exe service to the brf.dat file. The service protects that file, so you have to disable it before hacking the BD region.

I loaded the file in a hexeditor and there are only two values. First is the region, 2nd the counter. If I set the counter value higher than 8F (6 changes), counter switches to 0 and region settings are greyed out.

In post 4567 I added files for each region. Just exchange the original brf.dat with one of my region hacked brf.dat. Maybe someone could program some kind of region change utility for PowerDVD with the information I gave.

tman247
12-16-07, 07:30 AM
I've just 'upgraded' from PDVDU 3104a to the latest 3516. Although the upgrade went ok, I got the problem with not being able to browse for movies on HD. Looking through the thread, I replaced HDDVDNav.ax with the one from 3104. This allows me open open regular SD DVD's from HD, but I still don't get the option to click 'Ok' when I try and open blu-ray movies I've backed up. The Ok option just stays greyed out.

Is there something I'm still missing?

bubbakja
12-16-07, 08:08 AM
If I pickup that bluray/hd combo drive and get this powerdvd software,
can I play them to my Sony LCDprojo tv w/o HDCP ? (stupid xfx8600gt)
Do I need vista?

If I have 7.1 analog outputs on my soundcard and a yamaha HTR5890bl will I get the HD sound decompressed to PCM ok? I have heard conflicting opinions on whether or not Powerdvd can convert the HD sounds to analog and pump them through a soundcard over analog.

I have been dieing to hear uncompressed audio, but I got my receiver in 2005, so no dice unless its PCM.

BigWorm2005GT
12-16-07, 09:19 AM
If I pickup that bluray/hd combo drive and get this powerdvd software,
can I play them to my Sony LCDprojo tv w/o HDCP ? (stupid xfx8600gt)
Do I need vista?

If I have 7.1 analog outputs on my soundcard and a yamaha HTR5890bl will I get the HD sound decompressed to PCM ok? I have heard conflicting opinions on whether or not Powerdvd can convert the HD sounds to analog and pump them through a soundcard over analog.

I have been dieing to hear uncompressed audio, but I got my receiver in 2005, so no dice unless its PCM.

@ Bubbakja,

Doubtful. When I rebuilt my HTPC, I originally had the HDCP-compliant video card hooked up to my HDCP-noncompliant monitor on my computer desk. I tried to play an HD DVD movie and it choked, giving me an HDCP compliance error. When I brought the machine downstairs and hooked it up to my HDCP-compliant HDTV, the movies immediately played.

Based on the above, PowerDVD (which is what I was using) will require an HDCP-compliant video card and display device. Only other option would be to not use digital, and try VGA hookup or component, if your hardware and the player support that.

I and many others are running XP MCE with this drive and software. Vista is not a requirement, and may even be a detriment, due to the OS's higher use of system resources over XP.

BW

tkole
12-16-07, 09:25 AM
@ Bubbakja,

Doubtful. When I rebuilt my HTPC, I originally had the HDCP-compliant video card hooked up to my HDCP-noncompliant monitor on my computer desk. I tried to play an HD DVD movie and it choked, giving me an HDCP compliance error. When I brought the machine downstairs and hooked it up to my HDCP-compliant HDTV, the movies immediately played.

Based on the above, PowerDVD (which is what I was using) will require an HDCP-compliant video card and display device. Only other option would be to not use digital, and try VGA hookup or component, if your hardware and the player support that.

I and many others are running XP MCE with this drive and software. Vista is not a requirement, and may even be a detriment, due to the OS's higher use of system resources over XP.

BW


I would try it anyway. I have an 8500GT that I thought wasn't HDCP compliant and tried it out because my 8800GTS was giving me hiccups with bluray. I put in the card, installed the drivers, and voila it worked like a charm. The cyberlink advisor gave me all greens and my cpu utilization dropped to 35% where it was at 100% with my 8800GTS. If you are not as lucky as me, there is always anydvd hd.

kylebisme
12-16-07, 10:24 AM
Only other option would be to not use digital, and try VGA hookup or component, if your hardware and the player support that.
I can confirm that the player works fine with VGA.

Andy o
12-16-07, 10:27 AM
Until 3319 the region counter has been stored in some unprotected .ini file. Then they introduced a new hidden service called brs.exe and moved the region to another place. I searched the whole time in the registry cause I tought they moved it in there. With a new tool we use to debug windows applications in my company I could trace the brs.exe service to the brf.dat file. The service protects that file, so you have to disable it before hacking the BD region.

I loaded the file in a hexeditor and there are only two values. First is the region, 2nd the counter. If I set the counter value higher than 8F (6 changes), counter switches to 0 and region settings are greyed out.

In post 4567 I added files for each region. Just exchange the original brf.dat with one of my region hacked brf.dat. Maybe someone could program some kind of region change utility for PowerDVD with the information I gave.

Thanks for explaining. That brs.exe stuff is pretty sneaky crapware. I got AnyDVD though, so all this region nonsense should not be a problem. But I haven't tried with other region BDs yet.

bk1987
12-16-07, 11:21 AM
@ Bubbakja,

Doubtful. When I rebuilt my HTPC, I originally had the HDCP-compliant video card hooked up to my HDCP-noncompliant monitor on my computer desk. I tried to play an HD DVD movie and it choked, giving me an HDCP compliance error. When I brought the machine downstairs and hooked it up to my HDCP-compliant HDTV, the movies immediately played.

Based on the above, PowerDVD (which is what I was using) will require an HDCP-compliant video card and display device. Only other option would be to not use digital, and try VGA hookup or component, if your hardware and the player support that.

I and many others are running XP MCE with this drive and software. Vista is not a requirement, and may even be a detriment, due to the OS's higher use of system resources over XP.

BW

or just use ANYDVD HD

Al Sherwood
12-16-07, 11:45 AM
Hello..really curious how to get HD acceleration going in PowerDvd 7XX when playing a HD DVD.. Below are my specs and even with Hardware Acceleration checked in the PowerDVD settings, I still get 90% or more utilization in Task Manager. I have applied the tweak reg file. Any help would be appreciated as I thought I had the horsepower to run HD / Bly ray content.

Vista 32
1 GB Ram
T2500
2600XT PCIe
PowerDVD 7XX w/HD Patches
LG HD DVD / Blu Ray combo Player
DVI -> HDMI output
All hardware HDCP Compliant
Latest Catalyst and Vivo drivers / codecs

AFAIK the only version of the Catalyst drivers that support Avivo hardware acceleration within PowerDVD is version 7.7

This is what I run, no other version including the latest drivers allow hardware acceleration to work.

Al Sherwood
12-16-07, 11:48 AM
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After 8 hours, I still can't get an answer. PowerDVD and TheaterTek SDVD playback is jerky, although that of Blu-Ray and HD-DVD is superb.

As a last resort, I am going to clean-format the drive and reinstall Vista, the drivers, and PowerDVD from scratch. Also, is there any alternative to PowerDVD/WinDVD/Theatertek for SDVD playback? Or am I better off mothballing the HTPC solution altogether and buying a Blu-Ray companion to the A3? If I can't use my 700-title SDVD collection, an HTPC is of little use.

Did you try the utility I suggested? Did you try WMC or WMP with a SDVD and while it is running run the utility to see what codec is being used?

Still sounds codec releated, do you have other third party codecs installed?

Al Sherwood
12-16-07, 11:55 AM
I've just 'upgraded' from PDVDU 3104a to the latest 3516. Although the upgrade went ok, I got the problem with not being able to browse for movies on HD. Looking through the thread, I replaced HDDVDNav.ax with the one from 3104. This allows me open open regular SD DVD's from HD, but I still don't get the option to click 'Ok' when I try and open blu-ray movies I've backed up. The Ok option just stays greyed out.

Is there something I'm still missing?

Yep, you have missed something, a lot of reading, all of this has been answered in the last 40 or so pages... ;)

I will tell you that it requires image files and mounting them to be read by the program, but you really need to go back to about page 140 and start reading, there is a wealth of answers including the tools and what to do.

SnowGoose
12-16-07, 12:35 PM
AFAIK the only version of the Catalyst drivers that support Avivo hardware acceleration within PowerDVD is version 7.7

This is what I run, no other version including the latest drivers allow hardware acceleration to work.
My Radeon HD 2400 card is running Catalyst 7.10 drivers just fine with h/w acceleration enabled. Don't have the LG combo drive, but have some .ISOs mounted with daemon tools and all playback (HD-DVD and Blu-ray) works smoothly, no appreciable artifacts (noted some false contouring in one of the producer's "vanity logos" at the beginning of Ghost Rider, no tearing, no hiccups.

rdunnill
12-16-07, 01:43 PM
Did you try the utility I suggested? Did you try WMC or WMP with a SDVD and while it is running run the utility to see what codec is being used?I tried the utility, but it only works with MCE, and that has only one code; I tried installing the PureVideo trial download, but MCE won't use it. (I believe codecs must be marked as MCE-capable, and I don't know how to do that.)

Still sounds codec releated, do you have other third party codecs installed?I think I did, and I tried removing them, but to no avail.

rdunnill
12-16-07, 03:02 PM
Chances are that it's the NVidia drivers (since you are using 64 bit Vista), that are causing these issues.That's highly plausible, even though in the past I've gotten good results from a PowerDVD and Purevideo combination under Vista.

The clean install is well under way, and I'll report back on the results.

SnowGoose
12-16-07, 03:26 PM
I tried the utility, but it only works with MCE, and that has only one code; I tried installing the PureVideo trial download, but MCE won't use it. (I believe codecs must be marked as MCE-capable, and I don't know how to do that.)

I think I did, and I tried removing them, but to no avail.
I've used the PureVideo codecs in past installations of MCE (MCE 2005) successfully - did you say that you are using x64 Vista?

rdunnill
12-16-07, 05:00 PM
I've used the PureVideo codecs in past installations of MCE (MCE 2005) successfully - did you say that you are using x64 Vista?

Yes, and the clean install accomplished nothing. I strongly suspect that it's due to nVidia's codec not working properly under 64-bit Vista. If I want DVD playback, I must reformat again, and either buy a 32-bit version of Vista or use my copy of MCE 2005.

You'd think with their immense resources, nVidia could have had their products working under 64-bit by now. 64-bit hardware has swept the market, after all.

rdunnill
12-16-07, 05:07 PM
Chances are that it's the NVidia drivers (since you are using 64 bit Vista), that are causing these issues.
I wonder why DVD playback in MCE is fine, then (apart from no sound)?

Al Sherwood
12-16-07, 11:56 PM
My Radeon HD 2400 card is running Catalyst 7.10 drivers just fine with h/w acceleration enabled. Don't have the LG combo drive, but have some .ISOs mounted with daemon tools and all playback (HD-DVD and Blu-ray) works smoothly, no appreciable artifacts (noted some false contouring in one of the producer's "vanity logos" at the beginning of Ghost Rider, no tearing, no hiccups.

That is interesting, you are the first person that has said that the check box stays checked 'after' the movie starts (at Catalyst versions other then 7.7), you did check that this was the case?

SnowGoose
12-17-07, 12:16 AM
That is interesting, you are the first person that has said that the check box stays checked 'after' the movie starts (at Catalyst versions other then 7.7), you did check that this was the case?
Yes, the box (in Power DVD) stays checked, but it's understandably grayed out, considering the playback experience may be otherwise affected if a change was made "midstream"...if it doesn't work this way for you, I might suggest you begin considering "changing things up".

Of course, part of it may be how your "monitors" are set up - I have a single output (DVI to HDMI converted output to my Sony 1080p screen) - perhaps it may be an issue depending on which mode you have set in CCC for your "monitor"? Have you tried a later version of the catalyst driver but ONLY output it to whatever your using to output? (Monitor, ProJo...etc) and see if it makes any difference?

SnowGoose
12-17-07, 12:21 AM
Yes, and the clean install accomplished nothing. I strongly suspect that it's due to nVidia's codec not working properly under 64-bit Vista. If I want DVD playback, I must reformat again, and either buy a 32-bit version of Vista or use my copy of MCE 2005.

You'd think with their immense resources, nVidia could have had their products working under 64-bit by now. 64-bit hardware has swept the market, after all.
I know nVidia has Pure Video, Pure Video HD, and out of the box driver support for certain elements of playback (good reference at http://www.nvidia.com/docs/CP/11036/PureVideo_Product_Comparison.pdf) and the ForceWare driver for x64 says it's supposed to work - there is also mention of certain products that have native support for the feature set regarding playback - but I presume you were just trying to play back through VMC or Media Player under Vista 64? EDIT - does that VMC codec "tool" work under Vista 64? I wonder if it would say much about what codecs that are actually in use?

ssaeed
12-17-07, 02:38 AM
guys,

i am using a Radeon 3850 card and PowerDVD 3516. My standard DVD's are playing with the dark states rather elevated, I'm assuming this is the 16-235 level issue. Is there a way to setup a profile in Catalyst that can be chosen prior to playing the movie that would render the black level as truely black? Or is there a way of accomplishing this in powerdvd?

rdunnill
12-17-07, 04:08 AM
I've used the PureVideo codecs in past installations of MCE (MCE 2005) successfully - did you say that you are using x64 Vista?
I was, but now I've switched to XP MCE 2005 and everything's working.

Vista x64 isn't ready for prime time.

jp2
12-17-07, 10:00 AM
I am using vista home with pdvd 3104, 2600xt and e6600cpu. I also use anydvd hd from slysoft. I have smooth playback of both blu-ray and hd-dvd (from hdd) with mpeg2, vc1, and h.264 avc. I am using the catalyst 7.11 drivers. In pdvd, hw acceleration stays enabled (checked). My cpu stays relatively low (5-20%) through all of the above types of movies. I am trying to validate whether on not hw accel. is actually working but with this combination I cannot seem to turn hw accel. off! I stop the movie, go into pdvd config, disable hw accel., save, then start the movie. When I go back into the config, hw accel is enabled! I have checked with ati's ccc which now has overdrive visible but grayed out. It show some gpu usage but not a lot (up to maybe 20%). I have played around with arcsoft on my xp partition (same machine that I dual-boot). With arcsoft, the vc1 encoded movies have a lot of judder. It doesn't seem like arcsoft is using hw accel. for the ati 2600xt but it does seem like pdvd is. Any suggestions on how to confirm this theory?
thanks,
jp

Bjur
12-17-07, 10:05 AM
To very quick questions:
1. Which version of PowerDVD is the newest version that works with playback from HDD and drives?

2. If I get the newest version which doesn't allow playback from HDD, will I then be able to mount it from ISO through D-tools?

Sorry but 154 pages is just to much to read:)

gsr
12-17-07, 10:16 AM
To very quick questions:
1. Which version of PowerDVD is the newest version that works with playback from HDD and drives?

2. If I get the newest version which doesn't allow playback from HDD, will I then be able to mount it from ISO through D-tools?

Sorry but 154 pages is just to much to read:)

[soapbox mode on...]

Whether it's your intent or not, your last sentence implies that your time is more valuable than everyone else's.

You'll find that many of us who have put in the effort to read the thread will find it too much effort to help those who aren't willing to try to help themselves - there's a thread search function that should help you narrow down the thread contents and answer your questions.

Part of the problem with a post such as yours is that it clogs the thread with the same question - yet again. If you used the search tools, not only would you find the answers you're looking for, but you also wouldn't further clog the thread with repeat information (adding to those 154 pages that are too much for you to read - imagine the next guy who comes along and has to read 155 pages :eek:).

At a minimum, read the last few pages of a long thread before asking questions as your questions may have been answered in the recent past. Preferably, use the search function to dig further back. Most of us aren't expecting newcomers to read EVERY post in the thread, but at least put in an effort...

Bjur
12-17-07, 10:19 AM
[soapbox mode on...]

Whether it's your intent or not, your last sentence implies that your time is more valuable than everyone else's.

You'll find that many of us who have put in the effort to read the thread will find it too much effort to help those who aren't willing to try to help themselves - there's a thread search function that should help you narrow down the thread contents and answer your questions.

Part of the problem with a post such as yours is that it clogs the thread with the same question - yet again. If you used the search tools, not only would you find the answers you're looking for, but you also wouldn't further clog the thread with repeat information (adding to those 154 pages that are too much for you to read - imagine the next guy who comes along and has to read 155 pages :eek:).

At a minimum, read the last few pages of a long thread before asking questions as your questions may have been answered in the recent past. Preferably, use the search function to dig further back. Most of us aren't expecting newcomers to read EVERY post in the thread, but at least put in an effort...

Well it was of course not my intention, but then I would add, it would be a smart move to make a sticky and on the first page perhaps sum up, with important things like these, which are very essential, then us newcomers to the thread won't ask these questions. Just my two cents.

rdewey
12-17-07, 10:30 AM
I have noticed stuttering on high-bitrate Blu-Ray playback (opening credits of Silver Surfer) using an AMD X2 4200+ with an ATI X1650 video card. Do you think my stuttering will resolve by switching to a Geforce 8600 GT videocard in this machine?

Thanks for your advice.

djassa1
12-17-07, 10:31 AM
I know this has been probably discussed and I have tried many things to make it work with an extended desktop between 7 inch 800x600 touchscreen and 106inch 1280x720 projector display.
When powerdvd starts it seems to set the resolution to the primary display which is the touchscreen in my case. If I move the application to the projector secondary display I have a small picture of what it seem 800x600 resolution.
Now If I change the primary touchscreen display to 1280x720, PowerDVD fills the whole projector display and works as it should. But this last resolution makes my touchscreen pretty unreadable.

There is no way actually to make PowerDVD take into account the secondary display resolution.

Is there any settings to force powerDVD to start playing with my secondary display resolution at 1280x720.

Thanks

gsr
12-17-07, 11:05 AM
Well it was of course not my intention, but then I would add, it would be a smart move to make a sticky and on the first page perhaps sum up, with important things like these, which are very essential, then us newcomers to the thread won't ask these questions. Just my two cents.

Volunteers? ;)

Al Sherwood
12-17-07, 11:44 AM
I know this has been probably discussed and I have tried many things to make it work with an extended desktop between 7 inch 800x600 touchscreen and 106inch 1280x720 projector display.
When powerdvd starts it seems to set the resolution to the primary display which is the touchscreen in my case. If I move the application to the projector secondary display I have a small picture of what it seem 800x600 resolution.
Now If I change the primary touchscreen display to 1280x720, PowerDVD fills the whole projector display and works as it should. But this last resolution makes my touchscreen pretty unreadable.

There is no way actually to make PowerDVD take into account the secondary display resolution.

Is there any settings to force powerDVD to start playing with my secondary display resolution at 1280x720.

Thanks

Well you didn't give much information to work with like what video card you are running...:confused:

Anyway, I run an ATI HD2600Pro and it drives 2 displays, a 15" touch screen (Viewsonic V150P, 1024x768) and a projector (W9000,1920x1080). If I set the Catalyst Manager to extend the desktop on to the secondary display (W900), not only does the resolutions remain set for both, but dragging PDVD over to the projector allows me to fill the screen without changing any resolution settings for either display.

IIRC, when I shut down the system in this configuration, when it is started back up it goes right to work as it should with all of the same settings.

Your comment: There is no way actually to make PowerDVD take into account the secondary display resolution.

Is there any settings to force powerDVD to start playing with my secondary display resolution at 1280x720

makes me wonder if you are trying to run in 'clone mode'. As you have surmised PDVD does not recognize dual moniotrs (this is by design) nor does it allow playback on 2 monitors at once (again by design/HDCP)

bubbakja
12-17-07, 11:44 AM
can Anydvd decode the TrueHD an DD+ to lossless analog pcm like PowerDVD?

The main reason I want to install this drive is so I can get lossless audio w/o upgrading to a new receiver.

I already have the Montego DDL which should have the frequency support needed to push the PCM. I just want to experience lossless sound!

I have a PS3 but bought my Yamaha HTR5890BL in 2005, so no HDMI :(

Al Sherwood
12-17-07, 11:55 AM
Yes, the box (in Power DVD) stays checked, but it's understandably grayed out, considering the playback experience may be otherwise affected if a change was made "midstream"...if it doesn't work this way for you, I might suggest you begin considering "changing things up".

Of course, part of it may be how your "monitors" are set up - I have a single output (DVI to HDMI converted output to my Sony 1080p screen) - perhaps it may be an issue depending on which mode you have set in CCC for your "monitor"? Have you tried a later version of the catalyst driver but ONLY output it to whatever your using to output? (Monitor, ProJo...etc) and see if it makes any difference?

Hmmmm, kind of cryptic? I might suggest you begin considering "changing things up

The monitor setup has nothing to do with the hardware acceleration, CCC settings didn't affect the hardware acceleration box being checked or not, and you can't run PDVD on 2 monitors at once anyway...

Having said this, everything runs fine, with PDVD at 3516, Cat drivers at 7.7 and an extended desktop onto the projector with the primary display happy as well. What's the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it! ;)

The most recent version of PDVD (3516) is likely the reason the hardware acceleration check box stays now.

SnowGoose
12-17-07, 12:35 PM
I was, but now I've switched to XP MCE 2005 and everything's working.

Vista x64 isn't ready for prime time.
Point taken - sorry you had to resort to that!

SnowGoose
12-17-07, 12:44 PM
Hmmmm, kind of cryptic?

The monitor setup has nothing to do with the hardware acceleration, CCC settings didn't affect the hardware acceleration box being checked or not, and you can't run PDVD on 2 monitors at once anyway...

Having said this, everything runs fine, with PDVD at 3516, Cat drivers at 7.7 and an extended desktop onto the projector with the primary display happy as well. What's the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it! ;)

The most recent version of PDVD (3516) is likely the reason the hardware acceleration check box stays now.
Congrats on having a stable setup. Enjoy! :-)

djassa1
12-17-07, 01:12 PM
Well you didn't give much information to work with like what video card you are running...:confused:

Anyway, I run an ATI HD2600Pro and it drives 2 displays, a 15" touch screen (Viewsonic V150P, 1024x768) and a projector (W9000,1920x1080). If I set the Catalyst Manager to extend the desktop on to the secondary display (W900), not only does the resolutions remain set for both, but dragging PDVD over to the projector allows me to fill the screen without changing any resolution settings for either display.

IIRC, when I shut down the system in this configuration, when it is started back up it goes right to work as it should with all of the same settings.

Your comment:

makes me wonder if you are trying to run in 'clone mode'. As you have surmised PDVD does not recognize dual moniotrs (this is by design) nor does it allow playback on 2 monitors at once (again by design/HDCP)

I am running an ATI HD3850 dual heads with 2 different screen resolution as I stated before and I do not use clone mode, but extended desktop mode.

You are telling me that with 2 different resolutions, PDVD is able to fill the extended screen without problem? This is exactly the thing I cannot do. At the time I move PDVD to the extended display, it sticks with primary display resolution and gives me a small screen.

Amazing

Al Sherwood
12-17-07, 01:31 PM
I am running an ATI HD3850 dual heads with 2 different screen resolution as I stated before and I do not use clone mode, but extended desktop mode.

You are telling me that with 2 different resolutions, PDVD is able to fill the extended screen without problem? This is exactly the thing I cannot do. At the time I move PDVD to the extended display, it sticks with primary display resolution and gives me a small screen.

Amazing

I know you said 'extended desktop' but in that post I did not know if you were running an ATI card or Nvidia. I just wanted to be sure the information I shared was relevant to your situation.

Yes, full 1920x1080 on the projector and 1024x768 on the Viewsonic, both displays in operation, with PDVD on only one display at a time. Move PDVD over to the projector from the Viewsonic and then select full screen.

But to be clear, this was not always the case for me either. When I had PDVD at 3319f the image when moved to the projector would not go 'full screen', however when I updated to 3516 the problem disappeared (no other changes in my setup).

What build of PDVD are you at?

djassa1
12-17-07, 01:43 PM
I know you said 'extended desktop' but in that post I did not know if you were running an ATI card or Nvidia. I just wanted to be sure the information I shared was relevant to your situation.

Yes, full 1920x1080 on the projector and 1024x768 on the Viewsonic, both displays in operation, with PDVD on only one display at a time. Move PDVD over to the projector from the Viewsonic and then select full screen.

But to be clear, this was not always the case for me either. When I had PDVD at 3319f the image when moved to the projector would not go 'full screen', however when I updated to 3516 the problem disappeared (no other changes in my setup).

What build of PDVD are you at?

I use the oem version that comes with the LG BluRay-HD DVD combo drive. I already updated to a new version after the application has checked through Internet and gave me the option tio download and install a new version. I am at work right now and will check later for the exact version, Thanks

vddobrev
12-17-07, 02:27 PM
I was, but now I've switched to XP MCE 2005 and everything's working.

Vista x64 isn't ready for prime time.

It probably depends on your particular system, I am using Vista x64 and everything is working!

SandmanUtah
12-17-07, 02:52 PM
Unfortunately, that seems to be the exact theme of this thread. Sometimes it works with certain versions in certain setups if you hold your tongue out just right. If I wanted the software equivalent of tv rabbit ears on the fringe of a reception area, I'd look for somebodies home brew basement hack job. Cyberlink knows this doesn't work like major software is expected to, they run you round and round with canned responses through their CS trying to but time. I actually do not know why it's being bundled by LG with the combo drives and whatever/whereever it's being packaged. I am having to put this on a DO NOT BUY THIS BUNDLE reccomendation unless someone can find someone with the EXACT same setup as they have with detailed versions of all drivers/OS and equipment.

If Adobe or Apple dropped a POS like this and were charging for it, someone would get their head lopped off at those companies. BOOOOOO Cyberlink!

sigma957
12-17-07, 04:06 PM
That is interesting, you are the first person that has said that the check box stays checked 'after' the movie starts (at Catalyst versions other then 7.7), you did check that this was the case?I am running a 2600XT with Cat 7.11 and hardware accelleration definitely works. After starting the movie, the checkbox remains checked and my cpu usage is about 15-25% for VC1, 10-15% with AVC. If I uncheck it and restart the movie, cpu usage is 40-60% for both VC1 and AVC. This is with PDVD 2911.

SnowGoose
12-17-07, 04:32 PM
I am running a 2600XT with Cat 7.11 and hardware accelleration definitely works. After starting the movie, the checkbox remains checked and my cpu usage is about 15-25% for VC1, 10-15% with AVC. If I uncheck it and restart the movie, cpu usage is 40-60% for both VC1 and AVC. This is with PDVD 2911.
Interesting - but I noted that my CPU on AVC was quite high - around 50%! This with my aforementioned Cat 7.10/PDVD 3516 combination. Was kinda chalking this up to the fact that I was using the HD 2400 (AGP)? I have a dual-core Pentium (Pentium D 925) with 1 GB RAM.

Any thoughts as to why CPU was so high, even though there appears to be evidence of h/w acceleration?

Will report back on VC1 % tonight...

Al Sherwood
12-17-07, 04:45 PM
I am running a 2600XT with Cat 7.11 and hardware accelleration definitely works. After starting the movie, the checkbox remains checked and my cpu usage is about 15-25% for VC1, 10-15% with AVC. If I uncheck it and restart the movie, cpu usage is 40-60% for both VC1 and AVC. This is with PDVD 2911.

The more posts to this thread the more it would seem that many of the reported findings may be unique to the system they get tested on...:rolleyes:

It is interesting because, I checked my HD2600Pro with Cat 7.7, 7.10 and 7.11 and the only with version 7.7 would the box stay checked, this was with both the LG OEM version and PDVD 3319f. (Vista 32bit OS)

Did you mention the OS you run?

Are the XT and the Pro cards that different?

vddobrev
12-17-07, 05:00 PM
I have selected in PDVD player setup for movies to start from where left off. This works for some blu-ray, and doesn't for others. My only HD-DVD Transformers always starts from the beginning. Is anyone else having this problem? Any suggestions?

MKANET
12-17-07, 06:02 PM
Yes, I have that problem... and probably the reason why this is the only disc (out of ALL blu-ray & HD-DVD discs) that has stuttering. Cyberlink will fix this problem in their next software update.

I have selected in PDVD player setup for movies to start from where left off. This works for some blu-ray, and doesn't for others. My only HD-DVD Transformers always starts from the beginning. Is anyone else having this problem? Any suggestions?

Andy o
12-17-07, 06:54 PM
Yes, I have that problem... and probably the reason why this is the only disc (out of ALL blu-ray & HD-DVD discs) that has stuttering. Cyberlink will fix this problem in their next software update.

How would it be connected? It seems to me that he said the only HD-DVD he has tried is Transformers, but this resume thing doesn't work with any HD-DVDs that I've tried with or without AnyDVD.

By the way, it doesn't work either with any bluray discs that I've tried, but I've always had AnyDVD enabled since I've had access to bluray, so I don't know if it's AnyDVD or my PowerDVD software, or the discs. It's really annoying when you have to suck up the stupid studio logos, and sometimes even have to FF repeatedly through many commercials until you get to the menus.

I also wonder why AnyDVD doesn't have an option to disable prohibited user operations on blu-ray. The most annoying are the stupid antipiracy screens, in no less than 3 languages! A workaround for me has been to instead of selecting "play movie" on the menu, to go to chapter selection and select chapter 1, but they again took care of annoying the hell out of me with Pirates 3, which doesn't even let you go to any chapters directly without looking at the blue and red screens.

Al Sherwood
12-17-07, 07:50 PM
I'll check some other titles, but I can tell you that with PDVD 3516 I can resume the BD title Casino Royal exactly where I left off...

Catch this, it remembers this so well that if I switch to the archived version (HDD ;-)) it still remembers where I left off!

Figure that one out!

OK, I checked what HD-DVD's I have and BD, it would seem for my system and settings only the BD titles will resume where they left off.

jp2
12-17-07, 08:01 PM
Al,
I think one of the variables that is affecting hw accel. is the version of pdvd. I, like the other user seemed to be having hw accel. working with pdvd 2911 and my current version of pdvd 3104. Although with 3104 I can not seem to disable it! With 2911 I could enable and disable and the cpu reflected that it was indeed working. I have not tried any of the more recent versions of pdvd because I did not want to lose the ability to play from the hdd of be forced to mount as iso files. I am using the 2600xt on vista and have tried the 7.7, 7.10 and now the 7.11 with similar results.
jp

Al Sherwood
12-17-07, 09:28 PM
Al,
I think one of the variables that is affecting hw accel. is the version of pdvd. I, like the other user seemed to be having hw accel. working with pdvd 2911 and my current version of pdvd 3104. Although with 3104 I can not seem to disable it! With 2911 I could enable and disable and the cpu reflected that it was indeed working. I have not tried any of the more recent versions of pdvd because I did not want to lose the ability to play from the hdd of be forced to mount as iso files. I am using the 2600xt on vista and have tried the 7.7, 7.10 and now the 7.11 with similar results.
jp

I tend to agree with you JP, lots of variables with this software, I think that once you find a combination that works you stick with it until there is an over-riding reason to change things!

Andy o
12-17-07, 11:06 PM
Hmm with BD I do get the dialog asking me if I want to resume, but it starts from the beginning regardless. I'll have to try with other discs. Using 3516 by the way.

h8redv2
12-18-07, 03:51 AM
I'll check some other titles, but I can tell you that with PDVD 3516 I can resume the BD title Casino Royal exactly where I left off...

Catch this, it remembers this so well that if I switch to the archived version (HDD ;-)) it still remembers where I left off!

Figure that one out!

OK, I checked what HD-DVD's I have and BD, it would seem for my system and settings only the BD titles will resume where they left off.

Are you saying you can play files from harddrive in 3516, how ?
I thought they removed this function.

equivalent
12-18-07, 05:41 AM
I think Al is referring to playing the ISO copy of the disc (AnyDVDHD + Imgburn (in 'Read' mode)). I was surprised at the resume function too (The disc resumed from the point I stopped the mounted ISO) but I suppose to the player it's the same disc ID, regardless of which drive it appears in!

Andy o
12-18-07, 08:18 AM
Crap, does it work for all your BD's? I have so far tried with Spiderman 3, Pirates 3, Volver, Ratatouille (though I need to ISO that one up and try with 3516), both Underworlds, and probably a couple more I'm forgetting, but not one let me resume. I just got the dialog and the thing still started from the beginning.

equivalent
12-18-07, 10:41 AM
I've only tried about three (including Superman Returns and Casino Royale). Strange that you're getting the dialogue (resume playback one, I assume?). Have you checked that the auto resume settings stay at 'play back from last scene' in configuration?

Andy o
12-18-07, 10:51 AM
I've only tried about three (including Superman Returns and Casino Royale). Strange that you're getting the dialogue (resume playback one, I assume?). Have you checked that the auto resume settings stay at 'play back from last scene' in configuration?

Yep, and yes. My DVD's always have worked OK. They do start from where I left off. I'll keep on trying, cause it's a pain having to wait for the sometimes sloooow menus (I hate the stupid transition animations... transitions should be instant). About this, some HD-DVD's I've seen are far better than any blu-rays. In Corpse Bride and some others, the movie starts and there's no start menu, only the overlaid one. And with new blu-ray movies like Pirates 3 force-feeding us the FBI crap even when choosing scenes directly, it will only get more annoying.

sfapen
12-18-07, 11:07 AM
When I playback Test Pattern to check vertical Resolution,
I can not see that 1080EA of Horisontal Line is fully- resolved using Power DVD.
The Sources what I use to check Vertical Resolution is,
"W6RZ Test Pattern- 1 pixel alternative black and white Horisontal Line full field"
and, "Video resolution test" and "film Resolution Test" in HQV Benchmark Blu-ray Version.

The result is like that-
Some 1-pixel width Horisontal Line is resolved,
But, at least 50% of Horisontal Resolution is not fully resolved,
Some Lines are merged or interplated,
in other words, Vertical Resoultion have some loss.

Is there any one who can get maximum Vertical Resoution using PowerDVD
in 1080 line contents(especially, Interaced 1080 source)?

I use RADEON 2600pro in Vista 32bit, and enabled HW Accel in Power DVD menu, and use "Auto Mode De-Interacing" and also enabled 3:2 pull down detect option in Catalyst Control Pannel. (Vetor Adaptive mode also get same result in my configuration)

P.S : When I use KMPlayer and use "Microsoft MPEG2 Video Decoder", I can see all the Horisontal Line is resolved to get maximum "Vertical resolution"

darth1
12-18-07, 11:15 AM
Hi Guys seasons greetings from the UK. This my first post to this forum & i hope someone can help,Im running P-dvd v 3516 & outputing audio with s/pdif have no problems with std-dvd where i get DD&DTS,with Blue-Ray no problem[ Kingdom of Heavan DTS/ Last Samurai DD ] but with HD-DVD no joy!
On Transformers & Bourne Ultimatum i get DD form both during studio intros & the same in menus,but during main feature just white noise.If i switch to 2 cnl i get sound but only Pro-Logic or Neo:6 also in P-dvd config down-mixing is not avalable.Any ideas please!

Al Sherwood
12-18-07, 12:04 PM
I've only tried about three (including Superman Returns and Casino Royale). Strange that you're getting the dialogue (resume playback one, I assume?). Have you checked that the auto resume settings stay at 'play back from last scene' in configuration?

I have yet to try Ghost Rider, but Casino Royal and Fifth Element work. The drop down has another setting " always ask before resuming" or something like that, which pops up the GUI that gives you the choices of from the beginning or last viewed scene, This is the one I have selected.

When I get home tonight I can check if the other 'resume' option works (I would suspect so), and also check out Ghost Rider.

Al Sherwood
12-18-07, 12:06 PM
I think Al is referring to playing the ISO copy of the disc (AnyDVDHD + Imgburn (in 'Read' mode)). I was surprised at the resume function too (The disc resumed from the point I stopped the mounted ISO) but I suppose to the player it's the same disc ID, regardless of which drive it appears in!

h8redv2, equivalent is right on all accounts...

equivalent
12-18-07, 12:57 PM
Yep, and yes. Oh dear, I don't know what to recommend, other than a quick reinstall maybe?

charliecossie
12-18-07, 02:26 PM
Darth1:
You asked exactly the same question on AVForums just a few days ago.
Your question was answered, yet you have chosen to ask the same thing here. Why's that?

Andy o
12-18-07, 04:39 PM
OK, actually I just tried Prison Break disc 2 of S1 and it does work, even with AnyDVD. So now there are two possibilities.

1) All the previous discs I tried really don't work (since you guys didn't mention them, it could be).

2) Since I wasn't really testing this stuff (didn't try different settings, like pressing "stop" instead of just closing the window, and stuff like that) then probably it does work, only I have to do something that you're doing when stopping the movie.

I think number 2 is more probable.

Thanks for checking this up for me.

Andy o
12-18-07, 04:48 PM
Now I have another question, I haven't seen it mentioned before.

With blu-ray, I can use the mouse for the menus like you can with DVDs (point-and-click), but only for some titles. I had noticed that it was usually MPEG-2 menus (regardless of the movie being in whatever format), but now I see it works with Prison Break menus, which are AVC. I guess it depends on what the people who made the disc want for mouse compatibility. Anyone has any clue about this?

Just off the top of my head the movies I've tried are:

Mouse works:
Volver
Both Underworlds
Paprika
Prison Break

Does not work:
Tekkonkinkreet
Ratatouille
Pirates 3
Spiderman 3

I have also seen Live Free or Die Hard, but I can't remember if it worked there.

ditcho
12-18-07, 04:51 PM
AFAIK, discs authored in "Advanced mode" do not allow the use of mouse in PowerDVD.

Al Sherwood
12-18-07, 04:58 PM
AFAIK, discs authored in "Advanced mode" do not allow the use of mouse in PowerDVD.

Hopefully not an altogether 'stupid' question...

And "advanced mode" discs are distinguishable how?

Al Sherwood
12-18-07, 05:01 PM
OK, actually I just tried Prison Break disc 2 of S1 and it does work, even with AnyDVD. So now there are two possibilities.

1) All the previous discs I tried really don't work (since you guys didn't mention them, it could be).

2) Since I wasn't really testing this stuff (didn't try different settings, like pressing "stop" instead of just closing the window, and stuff like that) then probably it does work, only I have to do something that you're doing when stopping the movie.

I think number 2 is more probable.

Thanks for checking this up for me.

FWIW, I always press stop on the remote or mouse click the stop button before I close PDVD.

ditcho
12-18-07, 05:08 PM
Hopefully not an altogether 'stupid' question...

And "advanced mode" discs are distinguishable how?

Not the most intelligent answer, but I know they are in "Advanced mode" if the mouse doesn't work. :)
So far only one music HD DVD had the mouse working, and only a few of the BD discs I've tried didn't.

Al Sherwood
12-18-07, 05:19 PM
Not the most intelligent answer, but I know they are in "Advanced mode" if the mouse doesn't work. :)
So far only one music HD DVD had the mouse working, and only a few of the BD discs I've tried didn't.

Hmmmm, that brings forth a related question, navigating menus...

I have a Vista Media Center certified remote control connected to the HTPC, it works for some menus and not others, and even in only certain parts of the menu structure and not others. I find that this is true of the mouse as well.

So what gives?, and this is less of a rant and more of an observation, in the old days of DVD and dare I say 'classic' PowerDVD the mouse worked for everything, I guess that we didn't know how good we had it!

equivalent
12-18-07, 05:21 PM
I think my only non-mouser is The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Annoying at the time, and probably increased my use of the XP MCE remote, which I mostly use now in menus. I've not encountered the remote not working yet though, Al: Damn!

btw, like Al, I stop or pause films, so as you said, Andy, it probably needs this to cache the timepoint.

Andy o
12-18-07, 06:16 PM
OK, so now I have two more reasons to like blu-ray more than HD-DVD in PowerDVD. The HD-DVD interface is so bad, I wonder if Cyberlink has somehow partnered with the blu-ray folks. With it being pretty much the only game in town, they can have some power in the HTPC market. I've found myself preferring to watch blu-rays instead of HD-DVDs when both options are available, just because of the crappy HD-DVD interface. Now I just wish AnyDVD took care of PUO's, and I'll be pretty much set for good.

But even though I prefer blu-ray, I've actually been renting HD-DVDs and putting up with it. You know, just because the good guys at Slysoft asked me to do that.

Andy o
12-18-07, 06:55 PM
OK, I just tested Underworld Evolution, and it doesn't let me resume, like Prison Break does. One thing it could be though, is how I built the ISO. I don't remember how I did it for UE, but I did convert some blu-ray folders to ISO when I "upgraded" to 3516. The latest blu-rays I did, were directly ISO'ed up. Will test other movies later.

SakoEBS
12-18-07, 07:57 PM
I'm having some trouble with my new setup and PowerDVD Ultra OEM. I'm not sure it this is a problem with PowerDVD or my hardware. I purchased the movie "Live Free or Die Hard" on Blue-ray today and it is not working correctly. PowerDVD gives me an error code 0122 that basically says that I need to either update my drivers or that I don't have a compliant HDCP display. I'm using the onboard video (X1250) with an HDMI connection to a Vizio 37' LCD that are both suppose to be HDCP compliant. When I run Cyberlink BD/HD Advisor is reports that my graphics card id unknown and my digital connection is "without HDCP".

I am using the Catalyst 7.11 drivers and the newest PowerDVD OEM update.

I know that the X1250 is not going to be very good at playing Blue-ray or HD-DVD, but I still wanted to test it. Next week I am going to get a ATI 2600XT that might fix the problem. Is there anything I can do for now to play this movie?

Hardware Specs:
Windows Vista Premium 64
PowerDVD Version 7.3.3516.0
AMD 64 X2 4600
ASUS M2A-VM HDMI BIOS 1501 (using onboard X1250 w/HDMI Catalyst 7.11 drivers)
2GB of DDR2 800 RAM
LG GGC-H20L HD-DVD / Blue-ray DVD Drive

For some unknown reason the message changed and now says, "Fail to enable HDCP. Please switch to analog output (VGA, D-Sub) and try again - (Error Code = 0110)". This is basically the same message, but it doesn't say that I need to update my drivers.

tequila66
12-18-07, 08:15 PM
Here are 3 Files for every BD region with 6 changes each. Just copy and rename them to brf.dat

I use windows xp service pack 2 and I don't find the file brf.dat..

XxDeadlyxX
12-18-07, 08:23 PM
Does anyone know how to disable Hardware Acceleration in any of the newer PDVD builds with Nvidia 8800? Is it impossible to disable it?

kapone
12-18-07, 09:18 PM
I'm having some trouble with my new setup and PowerDVD Ultra OEM. I'm not sure it this is a problem with PowerDVD or my hardware. I purchased the movie "Live Free or Die Hard" on Blue-ray today and it is not working correctly. PowerDVD gives me an error code 0122 that basically says that I need to either update my drivers or that I don't have a compliant HDCP display. I'm using the onboard video (X1250) with an HDMI connection to a Vizio 37' LCD that are both suppose to be HDCP compliant. When I run Cyberlink BD/HD Advisor is reports that my graphics card id unknown and my digital connection is "without HDCP".

I am using the Catalyst 7.11 drivers and the newest PowerDVD OEM update.

I know that the X1250 is not going to be very good at playing Blue-ray or HD-DVD, but I still wanted to test it. Next week I am going to get a ATI 2600XT that might fix the problem. Is there anything I can do for now to play this movie?

Hardware Specs:
Windows Vista Premium 64
PowerDVD Version 7.3.3516.0
AMD 64 X2 4600
ASUS M2A-VM HDMI BIOS 1501 (using onboard X1250 w/HDMI Catalyst 7.11 drivers)
2GB of DDR2 800 RAM
LG GGC-H20L HD-DVD / Blue-ray DVD Drive

For some unknown reason the message changed and now says, "Fail to enable HDCP. Please switch to analog output (VGA, D-Sub) and try again - (Error Code = 0110)". This is basically the same message, but it doesn't say that I need to update my drivers.
Try the DVI, instead of HDMI. See if that works.

Try using Vista 32 bit to see if it works.

If none of them work (one of them should, I can certainly play HD DVDs and BDs using just the onboard video, although my 5000+ does max out every now and then, but it should still play), I'm at a loss...

Davinleeds
12-18-07, 09:28 PM
SakoEBS, Do as the advisor says: vga. I've found the advise it gives is accurate. It has told me to update card and drivers, each was correct. Get that 2600 installed. Each htpc configuration has it's own particular issues. Keep reading threads.

iceengine
12-18-07, 10:06 PM
I was just wondering if anybody can help me out. I am using the latest build of Anydvd and PDVD, and per previous posts in this thread have tried a couple of different ways of making and ISO, mounting it with daemon tools, and trying to play it with PDVD. I have tried making a straight ISO from the dvd, and have tried copying the dvd using Anydvd, then making an ISO from the files, both times using ultra ISO. With Anydvd running, I can get Transformers to what I think start playing, but it just plays "LOADING" over and over again. Without Anydvd, I get the pop up box asking permission to update the title and if I click yes or no, it won't play. I was just looking to hear from somebody who has been successful in getting this to work, if there is anything special I need to be doing.

ssaeed
12-19-07, 02:23 AM
iceengine

Here is what I tried and it works.

1. Install latest version of AnyDVDHD
2. Install latest powerdvd, v3516
3. Download and install ImgBurn

Once these three have been installed, insert the disc you want to make an ISO off. Run PowerDVD and make sure the disc works with anydvdhd running in the background.

Fire up imgburn and switch to BUILD mode (from Mode menu). In the options tab on the right side make sure UDF mode is selected for File System and recursive subdirectories is checked.

Next press the Browse for a Folder button (the icon of a folder with magnifying glass on it) and select your blurray or hdvdvd drive. For example if the drive is drive D then you should see in the Source box D:\

Next press the green arrow button (folder to iso image icon) and after 30-40 mins you should have an ISO of the original disc.

BocaPimp
12-19-07, 03:25 AM
So wait are u using AnydvdHD to rip to the HD or are u using imgburn?

do u wait till anydvdhd finishes then u use img burn?

equivalent
12-19-07, 05:37 AM
Yeah, do as ssaeed does, it works! Edit: As Andy o says below, if you're ripping the disc, just switch to 'read' mode and hit the button. You just need AnyDVDHD running in the background (tray) as it automatically 'opens' the disc for ImgBurn to access and copy.

Patrick.
12-19-07, 07:22 AM
Can anyone confirm whether Lost Season 3 plays or their system or not? It locks up at the menu no matter what version of PowerDVD I use or whether I'm using anydvd or not

Andy o
12-19-07, 07:58 AM
In Imgburn, you can also use the read mode, it's simpler. I use the build mode only for the movies in my HDD that I have in folders, previously copied. It is far faster than ripping the disc again.

SakoEBS
12-19-07, 08:16 AM
Try the DVI, instead of HDMI. See if that works.

Try using Vista 32 bit to see if it works.

If none of them work (one of them should, I can certainly play HD DVDs and BDs using just the onboard video, although my 5000+ does max out every now and then, but it should still play), I'm at a loss...


I don't have a copy of Vista 32. I bought the OEM 64 bit version. I also don't have a way to hook the up DVI to my tv. Unless I went out and purchased a DVI -> HDMI cable.

SakoEBS, Do as the advisor says: vga. I've found the advise it gives is accurate. It has told me to update card and drivers, each was correct. Get that 2600 installed. Each htpc configuration has it's own particular issues. Keep reading threads.


Nope, advisor says that I am using a digital connection, but that it is not HDCP compliant. I have updated all my components to the latest firmware / drivers. The only other problem I can think of is the tv. I tried both HDMI connections, but that didn't change anything.

I guess I'll just wait until the 2600 comes in and go from there. I know that PowerDVD does not support the ATI X1250 IGP, but I was hoping that it would.

I'm thinking about starting fresh with the 2600 and formatting the system, but I don't want to lose all my Media Center recordings. I just recorded all three Lord of the Rings in HD off TNT HD. :)

iceengine
12-19-07, 09:08 AM
iceengine

Here is what I tried and it works.

1. Install latest version of AnyDVDHD
2. Install latest powerdvd, v3516
3. Download and install ImgBurn

Once these three have been installed, insert the disc you want to make an ISO off. Run PowerDVD and make sure the disc works with anydvdhd running in the background.

Fire up imgburn and switch to BUILD mode (from Mode menu). In the options tab on the right side make sure UDF mode is selected for File System and recursive subdirectories is checked.

Next press the Browse for a Folder button (the icon of a folder with magnifying glass on it) and select your blurray or hdvdvd drive. For example if the drive is drive D then you should see in the Source box D:\

Next press the green arrow button (folder to iso image icon) and after 30-40 mins you should have an ISO of the original disc.

Thanks for the help I will give it a shot when I get home from work. Another quick question, when you are actually playing the iso in PDVD do you have AnyDVD running or should it be disabled?

cameronl
12-19-07, 10:03 AM
hi all, has anyone out there managed to get 2.1 audio in PowerDVD?

I have a x-fi prelude soundcard going into a stereo amp. I also have a sub but can not get PowerDVD to use it.

Any help would be appreicated.

thanks

CaM

CDP
12-19-07, 01:16 PM
Hi,
I have PDVD Utral BD/HD, There are some BD Disc I can Play and others that I can't get past the play menus, for example I can play "Night At The Museum, Blu Ray", But I can't get past the Start play menu with "At World's End, Blu Ray" I press play but nothing ha[[ens, I press the forward key and I get a prohibited icon at the top right hand corner of the screen. Any solutions?

CDP

ssaeed
12-19-07, 04:58 PM
Thanks for the help I will give it a shot when I get home from work. Another quick question, when you are actually playing the iso in PDVD do you have AnyDVD running or should it be disabled?

You dont need to have AnyDVDHD running if you have HDCP compliant video card and TV. For all practical purposes the ISO looks like a disc to PowerDVD when you mount it via Daemon tools.

eXgo
12-19-07, 05:03 PM
like my buddy says. he will use anydvd hd even though he has an HDCP video card.

the reason being. Screw DRM and HDCP.

Andy o
12-19-07, 05:59 PM
It's not necessary to run AnyDVD when playing ISOs. You already stripped the DRM, or else you wouldn't have the ISO! There's no reason to go to an extra step by disabling it either, it just won't have any effect, besides probably you can tweak your ISO further (change regions with blu-ray, remove PUO's if they weren'