can anyone give a tutorial how to run two versions of PDVD?

I copied 3319a to another location before doing the 3730 update, but when I run the 3319a EXE it just acts like 3730 and reports 3730 in the about section

thanks in advance

interestingly, 3730 lets me start Die Hard 4.0 from a folder, but doesn't play it back. Just gives a blue/black screen with a running timer

how are you starting each version, are you clicking on the desktop icon or are you starting it from within the program file it self

within the folders themselves

Click on the "Cyberlink" logo in the upper left hand of the app. That will bring up the "About" window. At the bottom is the "product licensed to" field with your name in it. Click on your name and you'll be able to get the patch level from the "DVD Version".

Thanks, they like to make it obvious :rolleyes:

I have now checked and have patched to 3730 but 3:10 to Yuma definitely doesn't play ball. I have a region B disc and region B setup (I'm in he UK) ...

... any region B folks having success out there with 3730 and 3:10 to Yuma on BD?

Anybody have problems with sound from BluRay discs? For the last two patches I have been getting like a ringing from BluRay discs if I put it into DTS-mixing mode so I can get normal DTS to my receiver. HD DVD's work perfect, and I cannot figure it out if its PDVD, my audio drivers, or my receiver. It is driving me crazy because everything else works perfect. Any suggestions?

This is a common problem with PowerDVD in DTS mixing mode. I have it, too. I don't know if anyone has figured out a workaround yet. For now, since I have an older amp that isn't as capable as newer models, I just play the disc with the Dolby Digital 5.1 track.

That's acceptable to me for now until I get an amp that understands HDMI and LPCM uncompressed. And, oh yeah, the Auzentech soundcard so I can actually output them! :)

Good luck, this is a problem that many people are trying to solve.

BW

I bought an LG combo drive this week, and I'm struggling to get it working. Though my entire setup is configured properly for HDCP, I'm still getting a 0110 HDCP error from Power DVD. I'm starting to think that in order to get this all working correctly, I'll have to buy a new video card ($150), the full PowerDVD Ultra ($80), and the AnyDVD HD software ($117). It seems that it might turn out to be a lot cheaper just to buy a standalone player.

My current problems:

1) The bundled PowerDVD software appears to think that my video card won't support dual monitors. All the options for choosing a secondary monitor are greyed out.

2) The bundled software is stereo only.

3) Even when I try to operate the software using my TV as the primary monitor, I still get the HDCP error.

I'm running the LG combo drive, a Sapphire X1600 Pro video card, and a DVI-HDMI cable to my Hitachi P50H401A TV. And Windows XP/SP2 on a Core2Duo.

Is there another software product that isn't as troublesome as this PowerDVD? Or is there some configuration setting that I'm missing somewhere? I really can't spot anything wrong with this config, but perhaps I'm missing something. Any thoughts?

Did you try the Cyberlink advisor program to see if it shows you have an HDCP compliant connection?

A few comments,

1) The OEM version seems to work fine for me, I just bought the drive this week, installed the OEM PDVD, and updated it to 3516. Seemed to work fine. I have a NVidia 8800GT, but I see plenty of people having success with ATI also. You might try either updating your drivers or falling back to an older one. This (http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=87362&postcount=47) post might be of interest.

2) I get multichannel audio with the OEM version, although I'm using SPDIF. Keep in mind that PDVD will only let you switch some of the video/audio settings when *nothing* is playing.

3) Make sure you have only a single HDCP compliant display enabled when trying to play HDM disks with PDVD. I've seen comments about it not working with multiple displays active.

For those that want to have both (3319a-3730) versions in one rig and be able to switch from one to the other realy easy and to have BOTH of them in their original form (not mule or something) here it is:
1. Uninstall the currently installed version of PDVD.
2. Install the 3319a version normaly.
3. Make a copy of the PowerDVD folder in C:\Program Files\Cyberlink , in there and rename it to ''PowerDVD3319a'' .
4. Install the 3730 patch normaly.
5. Download this (http://rapidshare.com/files/88883561/PDVDswitchEDITABLE.rar.html) if you want to have acssess to the stuff in the script file that i made, or this (http://rapidshare.com/files/88883822/PDVDswitchEXE.rar.html) if you want the .exe edition of the script that is more ''profesional'' and quiet.
6. Decompress the stuff from the .rar file in the c:\program files\cyberlink folder, just outside of the PowerDVD folder.
7. If you want to read in the starting page of the PDVD (with the lady holding a disk) the version that is active anytime, overwrite the ''mercury.dll'' files in the 2 folders of the 2 versions that now you have, one named ''PowerDVD'' (3730) and the other ''PowerDVD3319a'' (3319a) .The files are in the ''Skins'' folders in the PowerDVD and PowerDVD319a folders.
8. Right click the .exe or .cmd file and send a sortcut to your desktop.
9. Enjoy.

What the script doing now:
After a little research that i made on what is changing the 3730 patch in my system, i found some stuff that i included them in a couple of registry files, that work like Undo-Redo in the stuff in registry. With the first one is possible to make your system in the 3319a status and with the other in the 3730. Also, it saves the changes anyone makes in every version (settings) and it applies them the next time that you 'll select this version. The script works in the ''rename'' way but the tricky thing is the restores of the registry, so the system not only thinks but realy is in the correct version.

Please feel free to post any probs so we 'll try to fix them.

Did you try the Cyberlink advisor program to see if it shows you have an HDCP compliant connection?

A few comments,

1) The OEM version seems to work fine for me, I just bought the drive this week, installed the OEM PDVD, and updated it to 3516. Seemed to work fine. I have a NVidia 8800GT, but I see plenty of people having success with ATI also. You might try either updating your drivers or falling back to an older one. This (http://forum.slysoft.com/showpost.php?p=87362&postcount=47) post might be of interest.

2) I get multichannel audio with the OEM version, although I'm using SPDIF. Keep in mind that PDVD will only let you switch some of the video/audio settings when *nothing* is playing.

3) Make sure you have only a single HDCP compliant display enabled when trying to play HDM disks with PDVD. I've seen comments about it not working with multiple displays active.

Thanks for the help. The advisor reports that the connection is NOT compliant. Nonetheless, the card specs say that it is compliant, the set says that it is compliant, and I'm running the latest drivers for the card. So it should be compliant as far as I can tell.

I'm using S/PDIF as well, so perhaps I won't have to do that particular upgrade. I may try a new video card.

I do have two displays - the Plasma set and a smaller LCD display that I use for my work. The Plasma set is only used for home theater stuff, while the LCD is used for everything else. But I'm getting the HDCP error even when the Plasma is the only set hooked up.

In any event, I do need both displays to work.

For those that want to have both (3319a-3730) versions in one rig and be able to switch from one to the other realy easy and to have BOTH of them in their original form (not mule or something) here it is:
1. Uninstall the currently installed version of PDVD.
2. Install the 3319a version normaly.
3. Make a copy of the PowerDVD folder in C:\Program Files\Cyberlink , in there and rename it to ''PowerDVD3319a'' .
4. Install the 3730 patch normaly.
5. Download this (http://rapidshare.com/files/88883561/PDVDswitchEDITABLE.rar.html) if you want to have acssess to the stuff in the script file that i made, or this (http://rapidshare.com/files/88883822/PDVDswitchEXE.rar.html) if you want the .exe edition of the script that is more ''profesional'' and quiet.
6. Decompress the stuff from the .rar file in the c:\program files\cyberlink folder, just outside of the PowerDVD folder.
7. If you want to read in the starting page of the PDVD (with the lady holding a disk) the version that is active anytime, overwrite the ''mercury.dll'' files in the 2 folders of the 2 versions that now you have, one named ''PowerDVD'' (3730) and the other ''PowerDVD3319a'' (3319a) .The files are in the ''Skins'' folders in the PowerDVD and PowerDVD319a folders.
8. Right click the .exe or .cmd file and send a sortcut to your desktop.
9. Enjoy.

What the script doing now:
After a little research that i made on what is changing the 3730 patch in my system, i found some stuff that i included them in a couple of registry files, that work like Undo-Redo in the stuff in registry. With the first one is possible to make your system in the 3319a status and with the other in the 3730. Also, it saves the changes anyone makes in every version (settings) and it applies them the next time that you 'll select this version. The script works in the ''rename'' way but the tricky thing is the restores of the registry, so the system not only thinks but realy is in the correct version.

Please feel free to post any probs so we 'll try to fix them.

any chance to make one for x64?

I think the paths just need to be changed

any chance to make one for x64?

I think the paths just need to be changed

Give me the paths and i 'll try. Dont have X64, sorry.

Give me the paths and i 'll try. Dont have X64, sorry.

C:\Program Files (x86)\CyberLink\............

If you need registry paths, you'll need to tell me the keys I should be looking for.

Thanks.

Ok, is there any keys like [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cyberlink\PowerDVD] and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\] and [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cyberlink] ?

Thank you Kiriakos !!!

I was just started to think about it that way... but you MADE it... Great !!!

+++
Basthi

As with any onboard device it will eat up your main CPU cycles to encode/decode the audioANY device, onboard or not, on your PC will use CPU cycles unless it has it's own memory and processor. Video cards fit this category, sound cards do not. An onboard device may have the additional advantage of relieving PCI slot congestion. Many addon cards also use the Realtek chip set and drivers, so the internal vs external argument is a red herring. The real key is how well the drivers have been coded and optimized.

Vern

Is there a way to update the audio filterin 3319 with the ones from 3730 that do not down-sample?

- Rich

This is a common problem with PowerDVD in DTS mixing mode. I have it, too. I don't know if anyone has figured out a workaround yet. For now, since I have an older amp that isn't as capable as newer models, I just play the disc with the Dolby Digital 5.1 track.

That's acceptable to me for now until I get an amp that understands HDMI and LPCM uncompressed. And, oh yeah, the Auzentech soundcard so I can actually output them! :)

Good luck, this is a problem that many people are trying to solve.

BW


Wow I am glad it's not just me. Unfortunately I dont think some BluRay discs have DD5.1 tracks, atleast I don't see it with Spiderman 3 BluRay. This sucks cause I liked having the DTS tracks. :(

Does Powerdvd make downsample with the PCM?

Thanks for the help. The advisor reports that the connection is NOT compliant. Nonetheless, the card specs say that it is compliant, the set says that it is compliant, and I'm running the latest drivers for the card. So it should be compliant as far as I can tell.



It's either the ATI drivers or HDCP handshake is failing. Hard to tell which. A different vid card might fix it, might not. I had an Infocus 4805 projector previously that would fail the handshake occasionally. I could get it working by power everything down, unplugging everything, then first powering the PC, then the projector. PITA, but it worked. When I got a new projector (Mits HD1000u), the problem went away using the same vid card.

I'd try the vid card, but be sure to get it somewhere that you can easily return it to in case it doesn't help.

Anybody have problems with sound from BluRay discs? For the last two patches I have been getting like a ringing from BluRay discs if I put it into DTS-mixing mode so I can get normal DTS to my receiver. HD DVD's work perfect, and I cannot figure it out if its PDVD, my audio drivers, or my receiver. It is driving me crazy because everything else works perfect. Any suggestions?

I think everyone has this problem. The DTS encoding/transcoding seems to be really bad. However I wasn't aware that this problem wasn't in earlier versions and not in HD-DVD (I don't have any of those). Since it isn't in those, you would think it should be fixable if someone reports it to Cyberlink?

It's definitely PDVD though, and the ringing is horrid I agree. If you search this thread, you'll find a few other people have mentioned it including myself. It's bad enough that the DTS transcoding feature can't be used. The other thing I always wondered was why AC-3 transcoding is there but not available. Like there is a box for it, but it's always greyed out and uncheckable on every version I've had so far--is this the same on everyone else's?

yup mine is greyed out too. Well HD DVD uses DD 5.1 typically if you dont have True-HD so that is probably why it isnt an issue with HD DVD.

Anyone know of any register hacks or anything (ala the Media Center one) where you can change the OSD placement in PowerDVD Ultra? I see in the player options where it gives you the options for top left, right, bottom left, right and the ability to change the font size and color... so..this has to be stored in the registry somewhere??

The reason I ask is for the typical over scanning issue... I need to bring in the OSD some or at min place it in the middle so I can read it!!!! But I'd much rather be able to bring in the entire controls, etc... Anyone with such knowledge??:D

... The other thing I always wondered was why AC-3 transcoding is there but not available. Like there is a box for it, but it's always greyed out and uncheckable on every version I've had so far--is this the same on everyone else's?

I think it may be if your sound card does not support DD live. Mine does not. If anyone has DD live and its still greyed out then I can't tell you why.

I do really miss not having a true DD 5.1 track on some of these Blue Ray disks. I wrote Sony and complained about that.

Ok, is there any keys like [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cyberlink\PowerDVD] and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\] and [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cyberlink] ?


I'll get back to you. darn PC won't hibernate and none of the fixes are working gonna try a re-install , so maybe tomorrow I can get back to you

I have been using pdvd for a while with BD and HD with very few problems.
I would like to try and have media center use it to play my BD/HD discs, does anyone know how to do this ?
The main dislike i have of pdvd is the black bars it gives(seem to be bigger than any other software) has anyone managed to reduce these or are we stuck with them ?

I've been using Lite 4.11.1 (haven't checked to see if they have something newer).

Daemon Tools just released an update

I installed Daemon Tools Lite. Now I can play the "300" iso mounted via Daemon Tools, so thanks a lot!

However, I still cannot play the "Eastern Promises" iso. I searched in this forum, and apparently there are some problems with that movie. Someone said that the internet connection has to be disconnected for that movie to play. I tried that, and still it does not work. I will use ImageBurn in "Read" mode to generate the iso again and see if it works now. Does anyone else have trouble with "Eastern Promises"? The disc plays fine on the Toshiba add-on drive.

I'm still getting porked trying to watch "Eastern Promises". I've tried watching the actual disc with the internet cable plugged in and unplugged- no luck. I've tried "building" ISOs from the disc, but PowerDVD goes straight to "File mode" after I click on the drive (LG Combo drive) when I insert the disc OR after I try Daemon tools to mount the ISOs I've made so far... I'm currently trying the "Read" to ImgBurn an ISO from the disc...grr.....

I updated last night to 3730, but I am about to install a 3319a version I got off torrent, as well as my 3319f version using K's instructions. Man, this software blows chunks.

For those that want to have both (3319a-3730) versions in one rig and be able to switch from one to the other realy easy and to have BOTH of them in their original form (not mule or something) here it is:
1. Uninstall the currently installed version of PDVD.
2. Install the 3319a version normaly.
3. Make a copy of the PowerDVD folder in C:\Program Files\Cyberlink , in there and rename it to ''PowerDVD3319a'' .
4. Install the 3730 patch normaly.
5. Download this (http://rapidshare.com/files/88883561/PDVDswitchEDITABLE.rar.html) if you want to have acssess to the stuff in the script file that i made, or this (http://rapidshare.com/files/88883822/PDVDswitchEXE.rar.html) if you want the .exe edition of the script that is more ''profesional'' and quiet.
6. Decompress the stuff from the .rar file in the c:\program files\cyberlink folder, just outside of the PowerDVD folder.
7. If you want to read in the starting page of the PDVD (with the lady holding a disk) the version that is active anytime, overwrite the ''mercury.dll'' files in the 2 folders of the 2 versions that now you have, one named ''PowerDVD'' (3730) and the other ''PowerDVD3319a'' (3319a) .The files are in the ''Skins'' folders in the PowerDVD and PowerDVD319a folders.
8. Right click the .exe or .cmd file and send a sortcut to your desktop.
9. Enjoy.

What the script doing now:
After a little research that i made on what is changing the 3730 patch in my system, i found some stuff that i included them in a couple of registry files, that work like Undo-Redo in the stuff in registry. With the first one is possible to make your system in the 3319a status and with the other in the 3730. Also, it saves the changes anyone makes in every version (settings) and it applies them the next time that you 'll select this version. The script works in the ''rename'' way but the tricky thing is the restores of the registry, so the system not only thinks but realy is in the correct version.

Please feel free to post any probs so we 'll try to fix them.

Will this work for only 2 versions? For instance, if I wanted to keep a current version, a 3319a, and a 3319f?

Can some one check and see if they are having issues with HD-DVD version of DVE, the menus are there but there is no content showing?? Just want to make sure it's powerDVD and not my setup.

This is with the latest patch, before they worked fine.

Thanks

Can some one check and see if they are having issues with HD-DVD version of DVE, the menus are there but there is no content showing?? Just want to make sure it's powerDVD and not my setup.

This is with the latest patch, before they worked fine.

Thanks

I just got the DVE combo disk. Both sides work - the only issue is menu response time is very very bad. I recall having this problem with the old DVE DVD as well.

Will this work for only 2 versions? For instance, if I wanted to keep a current version, a 3319a, and a 3319f?

This one is for 3319a-3730 ONLY. Any other version needs changes.

I'd try the vid card, but be sure to get it somewhere that you can easily return it to in case it doesn't help.I bought an ATI 3850 card, and it did solve the problem. Not cheap, though. I'm sure I could have gotten by with something less expensive, but this one seems to have some horsepower.

Even so, PowerDVD still has the "Dual Display" mode tab (in the Advanced Video settings) completely greyed out. Does anyone know how to activate that feature of the software?

Also, is there any way to tell PowerDVD to respond to an external remote? I know that Cyberlink sells a remote for it, but I already have a USB remote with my MyHD card. I'd like to be able to use the same remote for both products.

Power DVD works with an MCE remote natively. Don't know about any other.

P

Hello all, I have tried to read and search through this thread for a definitive answer, but it is still unclear so I'll just ask. I'm sorry if this has already been discussed.

System info:
- PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 w/ the 3730 patch
- Dell Inspiron 1525 notebook (Intel core2 duo 2GHz 3G RAM)
- Vista Home Basic
- Mashita BD-RE UJ-220 Blu-ray player
- Intel 965 graphics
- Dell Ultrasharp 3008WFP monitor (using HDMI input)
- Silicon Image CP9139 HDMI repeater development kit (basically a 5 input HDMI switch, 1 output)

Problem:
I cannot play a Blu-ray disc using PowerDVD when connected through the repeater, PowerDVD error = "Failed to enable HDCP. Please switch to blah blah (Error Code = 0110)". This device is an approved HDCP repeater and works no problem using a stand alone Blu-ray player (Sharp BD-HP20U). Also, the disc plays no problem using PowerDVD if I connect directly to the display.

Question(s):
- Does PowerDVD simply not support a downstream repeater?
- Has anyone successfully used PowerDVD through an A/V receiver device that is an HDMI/HDCP repeater?
- Could this be a Vista problem?

Thanks so much for any help.

Since I upgraded to the 3730 version a few days ago, I've run into a huge problem with HD-DVDs. The "OK" button on my remote or "Enter" button on my keyboard does not select the selected options in the menu anymore - it just plays the movie. So when I first put in an HD-DVD and it goes to the menu, no matter what I select (play movie, scene selection, special features, setup, whatever) and hit "OK" or "Enter", it will automatically start playing the movie. Likewise when I use the popup menu, it won't let me select anything, but everytime I try the text "Play" shows up on the top right.

This is not the case with my Blu-Ray discs, as they work flawlessly. Does anyone one else have this problem, or know of a fix? Thanks in advance...

Power DVD works with an MCE remote natively. Don't know about any other.

P

Just did a quick search of this thread, and did not find it.

Does Power DVD integrate with the Vista Media Center (or XP MCE)?

In other words, if I pop in a BR disk, how to I get it to play, then how do I get back to the Media Center. Using the MCE remote.

Can some one check and see if they are having issues with HD-DVD version of DVE, the menus are there but there is no content showing?? Just want to make sure it's powerDVD and not my setup.

This is with the latest patch, before they worked fine.

Thanks


I have the same problem.

Hello all, I have tried to read and search through this thread for a definitive answer, but it is still unclear so I'll just ask. I'm sorry if this has already been discussed.

...

Problem:
I cannot play a Blu-ray disc using PowerDVD when connected through the repeater, PowerDVD error = "Failed to enable HDCP. Please switch to blah blah (Error Code = 0110)". This device is an approved HDCP repeater and works no problem using a stand alone Blu-ray player (Sharp BD-HP20U). Also, the disc plays no problem using PowerDVD if I connect directly to the display.
...
Thanks so much for any help.


Update...I got this to work if I run AnyDVD at the same time. However, this doesn't really help me since I need to have the encryption enabled. Using AnyDVD, I did not see any HDCP key exchange/authentication etc.

So, I'm still curious if anyone uses PowerDVD w/ an A/V receiver (and without AnyDVD).

Thanks.

what is the commandline for powerdvd?

it's true. when i play Ghost of Mae Nak with the DTS-HD 24/96 track and enable bitmatched playback in the auzentech console, it stays at 96 khz and doesn't switch to 48 khz anymore.
Whilst I am not sure of it's significance in terms of analogue sound output (if any), I have noticed the following differences in CPU usage with the process audiodg.exe between PowerDVD versions 3516 and 3730.

CPU usage with audiodg.exe when playing Planet Earth HD-DVD episode 1, DD+ 6 ch audio.

Sample rate and bit depth.......................24 bit, 48kHz......24 bit, 96kHz......24 bit, 192kHz
audiodg.exe with PowerDVD 3516......................3%................... 5%...................10%
audiodg.exe with PowerDVD 3730.....................<1%...................1%....................5%

EDIT: on a second (later) Vista install on the same PC I have found that CPU load associated with audiodg.exe with PowerDVD 3319a was the same as the results for 3730 above.

The sample rate and bit depth were changed via the speaker properties from the Windows task bar.

Reference:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12871606#post12871606

Hardware:
CPU: Pentium D 930 3.0Ghz
GPU: Nvidia 8600GTS
Soundcard: Creative SB X-Fi Extreme Music
RAM: 2gig
OS: Vista Ultimate

Hi
boristhedog.
I have been using pdvd for a while now without any real problems using a Bd drive and xb360 hd. I originally hooked up to a Pioneer vsx859 which only had analogue or optical connection but worked well. I have since bought an Onkyo 605 to try for true hd sound, but alas it won't pass through hdmi yet from a pc. I have however had dd through hdmi(via my hd3850 card) and can get pcm through analogue.
I look forward to the arrival of the next gen soundcards which hopefully will support hdmi!
I would also say that dd and dts sound better than a normal dvd because it is coming from a better quality source.

I installed 3730 and the menus in "3:10 to Yuma" finally work. I can now watch the movie off of the disc.

I installed the 3730 update for Powerdvd and the menus for 3:10 to Yuma still don't work. Do you think it is the disc or is something wrong with Powerdvd?

What you are probably seeing is 'judder' caused by 3:2 pulldown. Typically this is most noticable on panning scenes.
If you're display can accept 24, 48 or 120HZ output from your video card, it should eliminate this.

ballenjr

Thanks, although there are times when it appears to be clearly dropping frames, and I was watching a scene in Planet Earth where it was trying to fly between two mountains (not a pan but a zoom) and it not only appeared choppy but the sound was distorted. I have tried changing the display refresh rate to any of those modes, but I keep getting "unsupported mode" from my television, or the modes which do work don't seem to make any difference.

Hello

This tips

"In the case of version 3516, the files that need to be copied from an earlier version are,

Navfilter\CLBDROMNav.ax
Navfilter\HDDVDNav.ax
PowerDVD.exe
*.imp (10 files)
tried it, works like a charm. just make sure the navfilter ones go into the navfilter folder of 3516 "

it's good with the version 3730 ?

Thank's

is 3319a still required to play HD movies from the hard drive? if so, what are pdvd ultra alternatives that can do this? i've seen people recently posting about running two versions of pdvd, but that seems weird to me. why not just run 3319a?

is 3319a still required to play HD movies from the hard drive? if so, what are pdvd ultra alternatives that can do this? i've seen people recently posting about running two versions of pdvd, but that seems weird to me. why not just run 3319a?

because 3319a doesn't support some releases

Give me the paths and i 'll try. Dont have X64, sorry.

The registry paths appear to be identical. Only the program path I mentioned before changes. Sorry it took so long.

I do with 2 separate HTPC setups

one is ati 3870 to onkyo 605 to panasonic projector (AE2000) setup and the other is a an nvidia 8600gts to denon 4308ci to sony 60 grand wega ( soon to be a pioneer 150 )

I can play ISO bluray and hddvd and regular DVD ISO on both ok.

but powerdvd is really crappy with bugs / etc.

Different versions simply do not work with different bluray discs for me -- to date I have not had an issue with HDDVD in any version using ISO

I have try numerous combination - with anyDVD on or off - from ISO and disc in the drive

I use the LG combo drive

I make my ISO with imageburn in read mode..

examples -- bluray - 3319 will play the ISO Die Hard movies, but 3730 will not - it gives unsupported format in drive X message

3730 will play spiderman ISO where 3319 just stays stuck on a black screen just before the screen with spider logo that fills with color.

very frustrating software

I'm not even that concerned about the version copy protected being absolutely removed

I just wish to store my movies in ISO for play from my media server..

If the movie will play in powerdvd. the
my movies add-in for media does allow integration into media center

it work best with vista media center and is still not a smooth integration, but does work..

most bluray I can play in powerdvd from the ISO's do not support use of the menu selection with the mouse

ISO are mounted with daemon tools 4.11.2 -- I can mount and clearly see the content of the mounted ISO as drive letter that is listed a CD\DVD drive to the PC's

I sure wish we had a stable PC based player for bluray and HDDVD discs that work from ISO images..
Update...I got this to work if I run AnyDVD at the same time. However, this doesn't really help me since I need to have the encryption enabled. Using AnyDVD, I did not see any HDCP key exchange/authentication etc.

So, I'm still curious if anyone uses PowerDVD w/ an A/V receiver (and without AnyDVD).

Thanks.

Hello

This tips

"In the case of version 3516, the files that need to be copied from an earlier version are,

Navfilter\CLBDROMNav.ax
Navfilter\HDDVDNav.ax
PowerDVD.exe
*.imp (10 files)
tried it, works like a charm. just make sure the navfilter ones go into the navfilter folder of 3516 "

it's good with the version 3730 ?

Thank's

Is this a procedure to make 3730 open and play HD DVD and BD from disk?

- Rich

Is this a procedure to make 3730 open and play HD DVD and BD from disk?

- Rich

No , it is a question to see if it was possible

Excuse me for my poor english

I installed the 3730 update for Powerdvd and the menus for 3:10 to Yuma still don't work. Do you think it is the disc or is something wrong with Powerdvd?


For me at 3516, the menu's are so stuck that I can no even start the movie!

Is this the magic of Blu-Ray Java up to it's old trick of incompatibility?

Is 3730 the fix?

how do you play *.mkv movies on powerdvd?

I installed the 3730 update for Powerdvd and the menus for 3:10 to Yuma still don't work. Do you think it is the disc or is something wrong with Powerdvd?

I'm using WinXP Pro SP2, ATI 3870 with Catalyst 8.1 . Use the arrow keys if you don't have a remote.

If you think it might be the disc, trying burning an image to the harddrive to see if you get any reading errors.

You also might want to try a clean install of PowerDVD.

I'm using WinXP Pro SP2, ATI 3870 with Catalyst 8.1 . Use the arrow keys if you don't have a remote.

If you think it might be the disc, trying burning an image to the harddrive to see if you get any reading errors.

You also might want to try a clean install of PowerDVD.

So you have 3:10 to Yuma and it is working for you?, can't really tell from your reply...

If rsp107 has a 'bad' disc I would be surprised. The menu's don't work for me either, I have tried the MS remote and the mouse.

stevetoney -
Thanks for confirming that Nvidia works with A/V receiver inline with TV (HDMI). I believe the Intel driver is my problem. I've tried the latest update (winvista_1573.exe) and it still didn't work. I am going to try Nvidia.

So, I don't believe the support for repeaters has anything to do with PowerDVD. PowerDVD gets authentication info from Vista's PVP-OPM security engine. The graphics card driver handles the low level HDCP authentication and passes this info to PVP-OPM. This makes sense.

Bottom line: I don't think PowerDVD cares if there's a repeater or not. Vista PVP-OPM supports HDCP repeaters, so its up to the graphics card/driver to support HDCP repeaters.

So you have 3:10 to Yuma and it is working for you?, can't really tell from your reply...

If rsp107 has a 'bad' disc I would be surprised. The menu's don't work for me either, I have tried the MS remote and the mouse.

I found that if I turn AnyDVD off I can navigate the menu using the arrow keys on my keyboard. It isn't ideal but at least I can watch my movies now.

If I rip my Blu-Rays to my hard drive using AnyDVD, what file should I be opening in PowerDVD to launch the movies?

I found that if I turn AnyDVD off I can navigate the menu using the arrow keys on my keyboard. It isn't ideal but at least I can watch my movies now.

If I rip my Blu-Rays to my hard drive using AnyDVD, what file should I be opening in PowerDVD to launch the movies?

Interesting, I thought that I tried to watch the movie with AnyDVD off because it complains that I need an upgrade to 'decrypt' Yuma.

I'll have to try again tonight, BTW what version of AnyDVD do you have?

So far we have been talking about the original optical disc right?

As for HDD based files, you need to go back a bit in this thread, the process you describe is there, it involves Image Burn, ISO files and DaemonTools to mount the image, I am not the 'expert' on this particular process.

Interesting, I thought that I tried to watch the movie with AnyDVD off because it complains that I need an upgrade to 'decrypt' Yuma.

I'll have to try again tonight, BTW what version of AnyDVD do you have?

So far we have been talking about the original optical disc right?

As for HDD based files, you need to go back a bit in this thread, the process you describe is there, it involves Image Burn, ISO files and DaemonTools to mount the image, I am not the 'expert' on this particular process.

I am running AnyDVD version 6.3.1.5. It is the latest version. I guess I'm not sure if it has to be turned off or not. I just turned it off and then tried with the arrow keys. It may work with it on. I didn't try.

I was hoping to not have to rip the Blu-Rays as iso images. I just wanted to rip them as their original files so that I wouldn't have to mount an image.

I can get Powerdvd to open up the individual movie files but there is no structure to it. I can't find the menus. Any help would be appreciated.

I am running AnyDVD version 6.3.1.5. It is the latest version. I guess I'm not sure if it has to be turned off or not. I just turned it off and then tried with the arrow keys. It may work with it on. I didn't try.

I was hoping to not have to rip the Blu-Rays as iso images. I just wanted to rip them as their original files so that I wouldn't have to mount an image.

I can get Powerdvd to open up the individual movie files but there is no structure to it. I can't find the menus. Any help would be appreciated.

I guess that I need to get an update for AnyDVD as I am only at 6.3.0.x :(

As for playing back individual movie files, PowerDVD used to do that but I think that the last version to do this was 3319a or possibly 3319f. After that the only process that appears to work is mounted ISO's. This ability was specifically disabled, but I am surprised that you can even select that option as the 'file' selection was greyed out beyond the versions I mention above.

What version of PowerDVD are you using?

Hello

This tips

"In the case of version 3516, the files that need to be copied from an earlier version are,

Navfilter\CLBDROMNav.ax
Navfilter\HDDVDNav.ax
PowerDVD.exe
*.imp (10 files)
tried it, works like a charm. just make sure the navfilter ones go into the navfilter folder of 3516 "

it's good with the version 3730 ?

Thank's

i tried this with 3730 and it did'nt work for me, but the method to run two versions of pw dvd on the same machine by Kiriakos worked great

So I am at 3516 right now, is it safe to go to 3730?

Did Cyberlink break or disable anything else?

So I am at 3516 right now, is it safe to go to 3730?

Did Cyberlink break or disable anything else?

i never tried 3516 i just use 3319a and now with 3730

i tried this with 3730 and it did'nt work for me, but the method to run two versions of pw dvd on the same machine by Kiriakos worked great

Does anyone know where I can download or otherwise obtain a copy of 3319 so that I can try installing both versions?

As to sound over HDMI with the 3870, I did get updated drivers from realteks site for the HD driver and the ATI HDMI driver. Clearly I had sound working over HDMI, but the SPDIF out on my ASUS motherboard sounds better

So I still use the SPDIF / optical port I as was getting PCM to the receiver not DD/DTS of the HDMI

HDMI sound on these card is supposed to to do DD and DTS over the HDMI with the 3870, but I could not get powerdvd to do this



stevetoney -
Thanks for confirming that Nvidia works with A/V receiver inline with TV (HDMI). I believe the Intel driver is my problem. I've tried the latest update (winvista_1573.exe) and it still didn't work. I am going to try Nvidia.

So, I don't believe the support for repeaters has anything to do with PowerDVD. PowerDVD gets authentication info from Vista's PVP-OPM security engine. The graphics card driver handles the low level HDCP authentication and passes this info to PVP-OPM. This makes sense.

Bottom line: I don't think PowerDVD cares if there's a repeater or not. Vista PVP-OPM supports HDCP repeaters, so its up to the graphics card/driver to support HDCP repeaters.

Can some one check and see if they are having issues with HD-DVD version of DVE, the menus are there but there is no content showing?? Just want to make sure it's powerDVD and not my setup.

This is with the latest patch, before they worked fine.

Thanks

Do you have AnyDVD HD running? If so, try disabling the "remove first play title from HD-DVD" option.

Does anyone know where I can download or otherwise obtain a copy of 3319 so that I can try installing both versions?

you could

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Across the Universe does not work with the newest version.

I hate this MF'ing program. 100 bucks for this CRAP.

Is there an alternative yet? I thought that ArcSoft or someone was coming out with a competing player?

It's all crap :)

It is all crap, and that's the worst part of it.

Those of us who want to play these discs on PC's are getting ENTIRELY bent over the desk and getting it in the rear from all these companies with their unbelievably half-assed "efforts" at software which plays back these discs. At this point there are zero excuses for these discs to not work.

At this point I just wish HD-DVD would go away entirely so these companies could put forth all of their effort into one format, MAYBE then it would improve compatibility somewhat.

Maybe.

Across the Universe does not work with the newest version. I hate this MF'ing program. 100 bucks for this CRAP.That sucks. I was going to buy it tomorrow. What happens when you try to play it?

I think you guys may have just convinced me to return my video card and combo drive, and just to buy a standalone player. Hopefully that might work.

Does anyone know where I can download or otherwise obtain a copy of 3319 so that I can try installing both versions? try this

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Does Power DVD integrate with the Vista Media Center (or XP MCE)?

In other words, if I pop in a BR disk, how to I get it to play, then how do I get back to the Media Center. Using the MCE remote.

I'm really not happy with this PowerDVD program and I've updated and played with it and then it works and then it doesn't. Today a new problem and I've searched but can't find an answer. I also just upgraded using the recent patch but still the same problem.

I get no voices on the center channel in a 8 channel system using the optical out. I played transformers HD, Transformers SD and Spiderman Bluray and the same result for all three, no voices. I have played with settings but curious is that my PrePro says PLxII. If I use mediacenter and play the Transformers SD my PrePro reads AC3 5.1 Dolby D and the surround sound is perfect with voices and all. So that kind of rules out the PC or the PrePro and sure looks to me like it's PowerDVD?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
John

So you have 3:10 to Yuma and it is working for you?, can't really tell from your reply...

If rsp107 has a 'bad' disc I would be surprised. The menu's don't work for me either, I have tried the MS remote and the mouse.

The 3:10 disc is working fine. I can use my remote or just use the arrows and enter key on my keyboard to use the menus. I still have to use Ctrl+P to bring up the menu while watching the movie, but everything appears to be working. This is a Region 1 (North America disk).

I do have a bit of a problem with "Sunshine". When I first got it, I would get a no disc error but now it seems to play after a long time of trying to read the disc. Once it starts going, it plays fine.

Your problem could have something to do with PowerDVD and the OS. It could be that you are using AnyDVD (I am not) or it could be the result of patching PowerDVD a number of times... or it could be that you are using mixed versions because you want to play files from your HD.

Does Power DVD integrate with the Vista Media Center (or XP MCE)?

In other words, if I pop in a BR disk, how to I get it to play, then how do I get back to the Media Center. Using the MCE remote.

In x64 Vista it won't work, but you can probably get it to work in the x86 version.

At this point I just wish HD-DVD would go away entirely so these companies could put forth all of their effort into one format, MAYBE then it would improve compatibility somewhat.

Maybe.Yeah, right. Why on Earth would you think that "one format" would inspire the surviving camp to WORK HARDER??? Who would they have to lose market share to??? :confused:

In x64 Vista it won't work, but you can probably get it to work in the x86 version.

PDVD integration works ok with MyMovies in x64 :)

I'm really not happy with this PowerDVD program and I've updated and played with it and then it works and then it doesn't. Today a new problem and I've searched but can't find an answer. I also just upgraded using the recent patch but still the same problem.

I get no voices on the center channel in a 8 channel system using the optical out. I played transformers HD, Transformers SD and Spiderman Bluray and the same result for all three, no voices. I have played with settings but curious is that my PrePro says PLxII. If I use mediacenter and play the Transformers SD my PrePro reads AC3 5.1 Dolby D and the surround sound is perfect with voices and all. So that kind of rules out the PC or the PrePro and sure looks to me like it's PowerDVD?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
John

How many channels have you selected in windows and how many in PDVD?

Yeah, right. Why on Earth would you think that "one format" would inspire the surviving camp to WORK HARDER??? Who would they have to lose market share to??? :confused:

I'm so sick and tired of this internet fanboy CRAP, so why don't you cram it.

I'm talking about CYBERLINK, not Sony and/or Toshiba. I am saying that when one of these formats goes away, Cyberlink can then just focus their time on improving compatibility for one format, and not two.

Maybe if you would not just jump to conclusions so quickly without actually reading and comprehending what I'm saying, you wouldn't be so :confused: as easy.

I'm so sick and tired of this internet fanboy CRAP, so why don't you cram it.

I'm talking about CYBERLINK, not Sony and/or Toshiba. I am saying that when one of these formats goes away, Cyberlink can then just focus their time on improving compatibility for one format, and not two.

Maybe if you would not just jump to conclusions so quickly without actually reading and comprehending what I'm saying, you wouldn't be so :confused: as easy.

AFAIK Cyberlink plays all HD-DVDs just fine, the only problems I ever had was with BD moving the goalposts all the time after launching without a fixed spec. If they both had the same capacity I would be wishing for BD to just die :D

...and before you jump down my throat, I am format neautral :p

AFAIK Cyberlink plays all HD-DVDs just fine, the only problems I ever had was with BD moving the goalposts all the time after launching without a fixed spec. If they both had the same capacity I would be wishing for BD to just die :D

...and before you jump down my throat, I am format neautral :p

+1 to what AngelEyes said. I have both formats.:cool:

PDVD integration works ok with MyMovies in x64 :)

Does this mean I can install My Movies and get HD/BR playback inside Vista Media Center via PDVD?

All I want to do is pop in a BR disc, have it automatically launch, and use the windows remote to control the movie. When I hit stop, I want it to give me the options of ejecting (and then automatically returning to the Windows Media Center) or to simply go back to the Windows Media Center.

Basically, what a standard DVD does now.

I have my HTPC connected with HDMI<->DVI to my Denon AVR-3806 and then with dvi to my samsung sp-h710AE projector. Works fine except that PowerDVD complains about HDCP compability when connected to a HDMI-repeater. Anyone else with the same problem or know what to do about it?

Hi everyone. I posted this question over at the LG thread as well, and am waiting to hear back. But since it might also be a PowerDVD issue, I'm posting here too.

I have the LG GGC-H20L installed in my HP z560. I am getting very inconsistent results with various BDs. Live Free or Die Hard and Mission Impossible 3 worked great, but Spiderman 3 and X-Men 3 Last Stand don't work. I just get a black screen and nothing happens. I've tried these discs with both AnyDVD on and off, and still no luck.

I'm running the most updated version of PowerDVD Retail (.3730) that came out on 1/31/08. I've also upgraded to the latest version of Java as well. Btw, all HD-DVD titles play with no problems at all (Bournes, 300 and Transformers)

Any ideas? Appreciate the help.

Does this mean I can install My Movies and get HD/BR playback inside Vista Media Center via PDVD?

All I want to do is pop in a BR disc, have it automatically launch, and use the windows remote to control the movie. When I hit stop, I want it to give me the options of ejecting (and then automatically returning to the Windows Media Center) or to simply go back to the Windows Media Center.

Basically, what a standard DVD does now.

No, MCE won't play Blue disks as you know and PDVD is a standalone player, all MyMovies will do is launch the player from MCE when you select the appropriate title. I am not sure if the Green button will bring MCE back into 'focus', as i never tried it.

No, MCE won't play Blue disks as you know and PDVD is a standalone player, all MyMovies will do is launch the player from MCE when you select the appropriate title. I am not sure if the Green button will bring MCE back into 'focus', as i never tried it.

Hmmm...well, I will be one to find out in a few weeks, when I upgrade the rest of the system to be able to play them.

Hmmm...well, I will be one to find out in a few weeks, when I upgrade the rest of the system to be able to play them.

Well if you want to play Blue disks in MCE you are in for a shock, integration with PDVD is patchy at best, you will be raching for your mouse at some point :)

I don't even bother with the pretence and use a Logitech DeNivo Keyboard as a 'large' remote :)

Just wondering, to those that upgraded from the OEM version to the retail version, did you need to uninstall the OEM and install the new version, or did you just put in the new serial number and all the features were unlocked? Thanks.

Well if you want to play Blue disks in MCE you are in for a shock, integration with PDVD is patchy at best, you will be raching for your mouse at some point :)

I don't even bother with the pretence and use a Logitech DeNivo Keyboard as a 'large' remote :)

:(

Is this for both MCE2005 and Vista?

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Is this for both MCE2005 and Vista?

Yes, as many here have sadly concluded, there is no microsoft integration - only mymovies has been written to call last-best-hope PDVD. However, as AE also said, pressing the green button will start media centre, but PDVD will still be running on the desktop 'behind'.

Yes, as many here have sadly concluded, there is no microsoft integration - only mymovies has been written to call last-best-hope PDVD. However, as AE also said, pressing the green button will start media centre, but PDVD will still be running on the desktop 'behind'.

The MCE integration information being posted here is out of date.

With My Movies 2.42, PowerDVD Ultra integrates reasonably well with Media Center.

With Media Center running and My Movies 2.42 installed, if you pop in an HD-DVD or Blue-ray disk or press "DVD" on the remote with one of these disks already in the drive, Media Center will automatically launch PowerDVD Ultra and bring up the disk in the drive ready to go.

When you later press "the green button" on the remote, My Movies automatically closes PowerDVD as focus returns to Media Center.

You do not need to pick up the mouse nor keyboard at all to watch HD-DVD or Blue-ray, nor when you return to Media Center.

What doesn't work very well is PowerDVD's remote control capabilities. Pressing certain buttons on the Media Center remote (like "info"), brings up a PowerDVD widow that can only be controlled by mouse or keyboard. At this point there is no way to close the PowerDVD window using the remote at all. One good thing about My Movies' PowerDVD/Media Center integration is at this point you can still hit "the green button" which will close PowerDVD and bring you back to Media Center. At that point you can once again hit the DVD button on the remote, starting up PowerDVD again (at which point you have to remember not to press certain buttons on the remote or you can get stuck in PowerDVD again).

Another potential issue is if you are running the OEM version of PowerDVD Ultra, My Movies doesn't detect PowerDVD Ultra nor configure Media Center to automatically launch PowerDVD for HD-DVD and Blue-ray. The OEM version is the one included with the GGC-H20L combination drive.

To get My Movies to work with the OEM version you need to edit the following registry entry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\CyberLink\PowerDVD\UserReg\Prod_ Ver

and change it from "7.3" to "Ultra".

Once this is done, the next time you start Media Center with My Movies 2.42 installed, My Movies detects PowerDVD Ultra and offers to configure Media Center to integrate with it.

Essentially PowerDVD Ultra's integration with Media Center using My Movies 2.42 is quite functional with the only issues being PowerDVD itself. We have watched many HD-DVDs and Blue-ray disks with our Media Center HTPC - all initiated from Vista Media Center and we've never had to get out the keyboard or mouse to do this, nor to get back to Media Center.

There are several other annoying issues/bugs with PowerDVD Ultra that we have:

1. The biggest issue is the fact that PowerDVD always uses the desktop resolution to play back HD-DVD/Blue-ray disks when an HDCP compliant connection is used. Since our HTPC is connected to our 51" HDTV, we use a custom 720p based resolution (1152x648) for the desktop and PC type functionality (web, etc.). I would have thought that PowerDVD Ultra would have been smart enough to automatically switch to 1920x1080 when playing a movie with a resolution of 1920x1080 - but it isn't. (Heck video games have been automatically switching resolutions for something like 20 years. This isn't exactly rocket science.)

2. Due to #1 above, we have to set our desktop at 1920x1080 all the time which means that my wife/children/or myself can't simply exit Media Center and start up Internet Explorer or any other PC application without first manually changing the desktop resolution. Of course they then forget to change it back when starting Media Center again so the next time PowerDVD gets launched to watch an HD-DVD/Blue-ray disk, the movie plays back in 1152x648 (until I manually change the resolution to 1920x1080 once again). This issue really takes away from the professional integrated HTPC feel and functionality.

3. PowerDVD Ultra doesn't provide any GUI compensation for overscan. This also makes absolutely no sense to me. Pretty much all HDTVs and projectors are designed to provide some degree of overscan when spec compliant 1080i/p video is fed to them. I would have thought PowerDVD Ultra would have assumed a reasonable 5%-10% overscan stay out region (just like all movie and TV producers do) and placed all of the GUI overlay inside this region. Instead, when spec compliant 1080i/p is used (providing the best video quality with a 1:1 pixel mapping), much of the PowerDVD Ultra GUI is hidden from view. The only way to see the PowerDVD Ultra GUI is to use a custom underscanned lower resolution which of course destroys the image quality when playing an HD-DVD/Blue-ray.

4. PowerDVD Ultra uses single pixel wide lines in several areas within the GUI overlay that flicker when displayed using an interlaced video format (like 1080i). It is standard practice to ensure all horizontal lines are at least 2 pixels wide for anything intended to be output to an HDTV/Projector - yet PowerDVD doesn't abide by this very standard practice.

Essentially PowerDVD Ultra is clearly written to be used on a PC that is hooked up to a computer monitor or used on a laptop. It is not designed to be used by an HTPC that is hooked up to an HDTV and controlled exclusively with a remote control (Cyberlink assumes you'll always have a keyboard and mouse present to control PowerDVD's pop-up windows).

It does work through the My Movies integration with Media Center and it does produce very good image and audio quality (when 1080i/p is the desktop resolution), but don't expect it to provide an interface anywhere near as HTPC friendly as Media Center does.

If anyone knows of any tweaks (registry hacks) to make PowerDVD Ultra more HTPC/HDTV/remote control friendly please post them here.

Slider
I find i power dvd the best HD and BD disc player at the moment but i hate the fact that I loose a good part of my tv(black bars-I know its the way the director wanted yo to see it!)why buy a big tv if you can't use it!
I like the zoom facility on media center and wanted to try pdvd through this, can you loose the black bars with my movies and media center ?

Or does anyone know of a way of doing this ?

I have had no trouble running my HTPC at 1:1 (1920x1080) with PowerDVD on a Sharp 52" LCD. Overscan wasn't an issue at all (only some fiddling with early nVidia drivers). I would think most 1080p, and maybe lower resolutions, digital HDTVs by now would be able to do 1:1 without problem.

Or does anyone know of a way of doing this ?Sure, it's called YXY and can scale any window on a PC to any size. But by eliminating the black bars, you are doing a very bad thing......

Vern

Hi all,

I'm setting up an HTPC, and I'm rapidly beginning to wish I hadn't. I bought an LG GGW H20L dual format player and built an HTPC based on a gigabyte 690G motherboard with a low-power AMD BE-2350 processor, running XP home. Initially I tried the onboard x1250 chip for playback, but I guessed it probably wouldn't be up to it, and bought a passive-cooled 2600pro to use hardware decoding.

Apart from a list of problems longer than an elephants willy (most of which I have blundered my way through), I keep hitting one major stumbling block. It appears that all playback software is absolute pants. I got PowerDVD Ultra OEM with the LG disk player, bought one blu-ray disk (Shoot Em Up), and it wouldn't play it until I'd upgraded to PDvd 7.3. Fair enough. Then it only plays back without hardware acceleration. Bugger. I wasn't expecting the 2600pro to be ignored, so my docile little BE2350 wasn't really up to it. I looked at the x2600 forum, and found that the last version of 2600 drivers with which PowerDvd actually used HW acceleration was 7.7, so I loaded those, and I now have PowerDvD 7.3 with HW acceleration (woohoo!). I tried some Omega 7.12 drivers, but that was just a world of hurt.

Problems:
Playback of Shoot Em up fine, but occasionally blocky screens (seems fairly random, and not a temperature problem). Processor no more than 50% so is it iffy PDvd or 7.7 drivers?

I can't load the patches available for PowerDvd beyond 7.3 (patch 3730 for example). Is this because an OEM version isn't counted as retail? Does this mean the OEM version is a case of "our software doesn't work right, but tough. Give us some cash and maybe you'll get working software"?

Stopping PowerDvd now often seems to result in the display cutting out. Is this a common problem with PowerDvd or is it likely to be the hooky old 7.7 drivers?

I can't playback blu-ray at a refresh rate higher than 24 or 25Hz. Going to 50Hz causes the playback to just flicker like mad. As the films are 1080p, and the 2600 can, I believe handle 1080p, why wont PDvd do 1080p? Or is it some other fault? My TV (Toshiba 42Z3030DB) doesn't appear to be the problem as it will accept 50hz input and I can play DVDs at 50Hz.

I'm seeing funny ghosting/blurring effects (which I think are de-interlacing). I didn't see this prior to going to Hardware acceleration, but PowerDvd won't let me alter the setting (turning deinterlacing off does not appear to be an option. Could my 50hz flicker be PowerDvd attempting to treat the 1080p as 1080i?

The biggie. PowerDvd does not seem happy playing back any of the 3 disks I've bought. Shoot Em Up works (but only with the above issues), 3.10 to Yuma Blu-Ray seemed fine right up until I actually tried to select the play option, that all play/chapter options were ignored with the little message "Prohibited" popping up in the corner of the player, and the Serenity HD-DVD plays, but is serious prone to crashing, during menus or playback.

Are any of these problems magically fixed by the "proper" retail version, or is that just chucking more money after a hooky, half finished product?

Apologies for such a ludicrously long post, and any advice gratefully received !

Spanner...you need the retail version. You can buy a key at Newegg.

Spanner...you need the retail version. You can buy a key at Newegg.

Well its an idea, but...

a) I can't find it on NewEgg
b) I can find it on Cyberlinks own site, and would appear to cost $79.99 (they don't specifically mention an upgrade from an OEM Ultra). Now seeing as thats for a piece of software that has so far been a complete liability (and after 80 bucks might still leave me unable to use hardware acceleration or properly play back any of the films I've bought), I ain't that keen.

Ho hum

Spanner
Before buying a key for PowerDVD email Cyberlink support. Tell them you have an OEM version that isn't playing some of your discs. They'll most likely send you a download link and a key for the retail. (I've heard this happened for several people).

I can confirm that you need the retail version with the latest patch (3730) to play 3:10 to Yuma properly.
Not sure about your other discs.


ballenjr

Hi,

I want PowerDVD to decode True HD/DTS HD and send it as PCM to my Receiver over HDMI. I have a Sony Vaio VGN-FZ21J. But all i get is Stereo PCM...

What can i do?

Thx

EDIT: Audio Driver is: Sigma Tel High Definition Audio Codec

To get My Movies to work with the OEM version you need to edit the following registry entry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\CyberLink\PowerDVD\UserReg\Prod_ Ver

and change it from "7.3" to "Ultra".

Once this is done, the next time you start Media Center with My Movies 2.42 installed, My Movies detects PowerDVD Ultra and offers to configure Media Center to integrate with it.


This helped me alot to play movies from MCE direct.

Previously i couldn't play Bluray direct using folder structure from root because i always needed to point to BDMV to play it. HD always play well. Now it's vice versa. I can play BLURAY fine and not HD anymore. It opens up Player fine and nothing works for HD HDD files.

Please advice on how to make those folder structure to make this work or so

Spanner
Before buying a key for PowerDVD email Cyberlink support. Tell them you have an OEM version that isn't playing some of your discs. They'll most likely send you a download link and a key for the retail. (I've heard this happened for several people).

I can confirm that you need the retail version with the latest patch (3730) to play 3:10 to Yuma properly.
Not sure about your other discs.


ballenjr

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give it a bash. With the luck I'm having at the moment, I can't say I'm confident, but its worth a try !

cheers

Hi,

I want PowerDVD to decode True HD/DTS HD and send it as PCM to my Receiver over HDMI. I have a Sony Vaio VGN-FZ21J. But all i get is Stereo PCM...

What can i do?

Thx

EDIT: Audio Driver is: Sigma Tel High Definition Audio Codec

Nothing, only Intel G35 Motherboards allow you to do this.

Thanks to HT Slider for bringing me up to date on the integration, although I have the latest MyMovies everytime I launch if from MCE, PDVD sets itself to 2 channel rather than 8 channel so I don't even bother with MCE anymore... what a pita ... :mad:

PDVD integration works ok with MyMovies in x64 :)

Yeah but then you're not actually playing it back in MCE right, you're just starting up PDVD to play the movie, no?

Spanner...you need the retail version. You can buy a key at Newegg.

What are the differences between retail and OEM?

We've watched a good 15 HD-DVD or Blue-ray movies since I installed the LG GCC-H20L before Christmas. So far absolutely everything has played perfectly (as long as I manually change the resolution to 1920x1080 before starting PowerDVD).

What would the retail version offer us over the OEM?

Thanks to HT Slider for bringing me up to date on the integration, although I have the latest MyMovies everytime I launch if from MCE, PDVD sets itself to 2 channel rather than 8 channel so I don't even bother with MCE anymore... what a pita ... :mad:

Strange. We use SPDIF and the audio has always worked perfectly.

Our motherboard (GA-P35-DS4) includes DTS Connect and with some movies we can select different audio tracks. DD5.1 and DTS tracks are directly output over the SPDIF connection unaltered, but TrueHD and other 8 channel audio selections are passed to the Realtek HD audio on the motherboard and then encoded to DTS before being passed to the Yamaha receiver. To be honest the 8 channel audio sources sound, if anything, slightly better than DD5.1 tracks (even though they are digitally encoded to DTS with only 5.1 channels).

I've been quite impressed at how well the audio works. We never have to go into the driver settings for the audio ever. Everything just works and works very well as far as audio is concerned.

1. The biggest issue is the fact that PowerDVD always uses the desktop resolution to play back HD-DVD/Blue-ray disks when an HDCP compliant connection is used. Since our HTPC is connected to our 51" HDTV, we use a custom 720p based resolution (1152x648) for the desktop and PC type functionality (web, etc.). I would have thought that PowerDVD Ultra would have been smart enough to automatically switch to 1920x1080 when playing a movie with a resolution of 1920x1080 - but it isn't. (Heck video games have been automatically switching resolutions for something like 20 years. This isn't exactly rocket science.)
I've solved this problem by telling PowerStrip to switch resolutions for me when I launch various programs. When I exit the program, PowerStrip switches me back to my previous desktop resolution. It would be nice if PowerDVD had a command line switch so you could tell it what resolution to use, but I definitely think there are FAR more serious issues with the software than this.

3. PowerDVD Ultra doesn't provide any GUI compensation for overscan.
IMHO, this is a far more serious problem that the above because there's no good workaround for it.

To add to your list of big glaring problems would be using different keyboard shortcuts for different media types - makes it real fun to program a remote control. I've got a complaint into Cyberlink on this one, but I'm not holding my breath for them to fix it.

I just watched 3:10 to Yuma. It was perfect...my Denon receiver reported Dolby Digital EX and I got 7.1 sound. The 2 surround back channels were in mono as per the EX spec but the sound effects were great. Note that's 'surround back' not 'surround'. 1:1 perfect pixel 1080p mapping on my Olevia 747i LCD.

I had upgraded to 3730 without a hitch. Cyberlink has improved this program.
Yes, you can get the program key at Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681565108SF

Computer is a C2D 2.16, running Vista, Nvidia 8800GT. Audio is SPDIF from a simple Turtle Beach USB to SPDIF doogle and using the Turtle Beach Vista audio driver.

I am guessing this may have something to do with HDMI handshake and MCE's audio settings. Because I am outputting LPCM over HDMI I think maybe the Receiver detects 2 channels in MCE (dunno why) and then doesn't 'see' PDVD launch in the background with 8 channels so sits there with 2... sounds a bit of a leap I know but since using HDMI audio I have seen some weirdness with the Receiver and Windows 'talking' to each other...

Launching PDVD on it's own works absolutely fine and I don't have to alter anything. I did try Arcsoft DT but the English language version won't run on an Intel chipset... typical :rolleyes:

Adam

Strange. We use SPDIF and the audio has always worked perfectly.

Our motherboard (GA-P35-DS4) includes DTS Connect and with some movies we can select different audio tracks. DD5.1 and DTS tracks are directly output over the SPDIF connection unaltered, but TrueHD and other 8 channel audio selections are passed to the Realtek HD audio on the motherboard and then encoded to DTS before being passed to the Yamaha receiver. To be honest the 8 channel audio sources sound, if anything, slightly better than DD5.1 tracks (even though they are digitally encoded to DTS with only 5.1 channels).

I've been quite impressed at how well the audio works. We never have to go into the driver settings for the audio ever. Everything just works and works very well as far as audio is concerned.

Yeah but then you're not actually playing it back in MCE right, you're just starting up PDVD to play the movie, no?

Correct :)

If you want MCE to play HD & BD, go moan at Microsoft :D

I had upgraded to 3730 without a hitch. Cyberlink has improved this program.
Yes, you can get the program key at Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681565108SF



Thanks for the link, don't know why I couldn't find it with their search. Mind you, have you read all the comments on that page ?

Think I'll hold out for some response from customer support. Won't hold me breath though.....

Has anyone had any success using PDVD to play ACROSS THE UNIVERSE? I cannot get any key response on the main menu. I know 3:10 TO YUMA had a similar issue, and it appears as if it may have been resolved; so, I am wondering if ATU has been fixed as well.

just installed 3730 and it crashes after 4-7 seconds of the first trailer clips of Casino Royale.
Previously I'd used the last patch to permit playing from HDD with no probs.
right now I'm tyring to play from Blu-ray disc

169.28 and tried regressing to 169.25
X2 4400+
8600GT
2Gb Ram
Vista Ultimate 32
X-Meridian with latest drivers
Pioneer BDC-202BK 5x BD-ROM



anyone any ideas as to what's causing this? I've downgraded the Forceware further still and still PDVD is unstable and impossible to kill off once it goes.
Do other installed apps have a baring on PDVD?
like:
CoreAVC Pro
Haali splitter
MPC
KMedia Player
VLC
etc..

I am guessing this may have something to do with HDMI handshake and MCE's audio settings. Because I am outputting LPCM over HDMI I think maybe the Receiver detects 2 channels in MCE (dunno why) and then doesn't 'see' PDVD launch in the background with 8 channels so sits there with 2... sounds a bit of a leap I know but since using HDMI audio I have seen some weirdness with the Receiver and Windows 'talking' to each other...

Launching PDVD on it's own works absolutely fine and I don't have to alter anything. I did try Arcsoft DT but the English language version won't run on an Intel chipset... typical :rolleyes:

Adam

Do you have MCE configured for 5.1 audio?

I still don't understand how MCE can change the settings for PDVD. PowerDVD is a separate program and it runs as a separate program, even if launched while MCE is already running.

How many channels have you selected in windows and how many in PDVD?

I selected SPDIF and 8 channels.

The PC also has a selector for the number of channels and that is set to 8.

If I change to 4 channels then I get voices. Anything above 4 and no more voices. This is the same for the 3 DVD formats.

If I use mediacenter XP to play the Standard DVD I get voices. The samd DVD in PDVD and no voices.

Thanks,

John

Hi Guys,

Win XP32, Xbox360 HD drive, using a Prelude 7.1 into a Yamaha V2700 reciever with 7.1 speakers.
I'm trying to get 8-channel sound out of PDVD. I'm playing Transformers HD-DVD (Dolby Digital Plus) and SD-DVD Attack of the Clones (Dolby Digital EX) both should put out 7.1 (right?). Neither outputs any sound to my back surround speakers, just 5.1. I tried the analog 8-channel and SPIDF, The card is setup properly i think. I get all channels playing music ets., and if i force Dolby EX on in the reciever i get the back surrounds (although not true EX i assume?)
Does PDVD normaly have a problem like this, or wtf am i doing wrong? Been two days reading here and trying to figure this out myself, but no luck.

Info screen in PDVD for Attack of the clones says:

Audio Attributes:
Audio Coding mode: Dolby Digital
Sampling Rate: 48kHz
Audio application mode: Not Specified
Number of Audio channels: 5.1
Bitrate: 448 Kbps
Number of Audio streams: 4

And for HD-DVD Transformers says:

Audio Attributes:
Audio Coding mode: DDPlus
Sampling Rate: 48kHz
Number of Audio channels: 5.1
Bitrate: 1536 Kbps

Thanks in advance for any help :)

1. The biggest issue is the fact that PowerDVD always uses the desktop resolution to play back HD-DVD/Blue-ray disks when an HDCP compliant connection is used. Since our HTPC is connected to our 51" HDTV, we use a custom 720p based resolution (1152x648) for the desktop and PC type functionality (web, etc.). I would have thought that PowerDVD Ultra would have been smart enough to automatically switch to 1920x1080 when playing a movie with a resolution of 1920x1080 - but it isn't. (Heck video games have been automatically switching resolutions for something like 20 years. This isn't exactly rocket science.)

2. Due to #1 above, we have to set our desktop at 1920x1080 all the time which means that my wife/children/or myself can't simply exit Media Center and start up Internet Explorer or any other PC application without first manually changing the desktop resolution. Of course they then forget to change it back when starting Media Center again so the next time PowerDVD gets launched to watch an HD-DVD/Blue-ray disk, the movie plays back in 1152x648 (until I manually change the resolution to 1920x1080 once again). This issue really takes away from the professional integrated HTPC feel and functionality.


I'm so glad you posted that! I finally struggled through the process of trying to use the OEM version of PDVD Ultra, then upgrading to the retail version, and have finally achieved reasonably stable playing of BD/HD disks. Frankly, I was satisfied, but not blown away, by the PQ. But like you, I was using a lower desktop resolution of 1360x768 (to an 8-year-old Mits RP HDTV) and never thought to change it. Using a desktop resolution of 1920x1080 makes all the difference! Thanks also to a later suggestion of using a PowerStrip application profile to automatically change the resolution when PDVD starts, then restore the original one when it closes, all is pretty seamless now, and the PQ is just stunning!

Thanks again to you both!

Has anyone had any success using PDVD to play ACROSS THE UNIVERSE? I cannot get any key response on the main menu. I know 3:10 TO YUMA had a similar issue, and it appears as if it may have been resolved; so, I am wondering if ATU has been fixed as well.

I have the same problem with Across the Universe. I asked for help from Cyberlink, and although I made it clear in my message that I was using PDVD Ultra build 3730, they sent me a canned response with a link to download the version I already have.

I selected SPDIF and 8 channels.

The PC also has a selector for the number of channels and that is set to 8.

If I change to 4 channels then I get voices. Anything above 4 and no more voices. This is the same for the 3 DVD formats.

If I use mediacenter XP to play the Standard DVD I get voices. The samd DVD in PDVD and no voices.

Thanks,

John

I removed PowerDVD and reinstalled it and now I have the option back for Use SPDIF and now I have full surround with voices.

I removed PowerDVD and reinstalled it and now I have the option back for Use SPDIF and now I have full surround with voices.

Remember, you can only change this setting to SPDIF when no movie is being played. You can change it to anything else when playing a movie, just not SPDIF.

so what is the best way to eliminate the crushing blacks in pdvd-downgrade to 163.69 nvidia drivers or adjust gamma, brightness , contrast in the control panel?

so what is the best way to eliminate the crushing blacks in pdvd-downgrade to 163.69 nvidia drivers or adjust gamma, brightness , contrast in the control panel?


Without question, downgrade. I spent forever messing with nVidia settings, and could only get a slightly washed out picture. Downgraded, with a little tweaking, made the picture nearly perfect.

some questions from newbie to HD just completed new machine

LG Dual Blu and HD drive
8800GT on GA-P35-DS4
4GB RAM
8400 3GHz core duo


I have oem version with my drive and it seems to pass 5.1 DD ok and my receiver does not support True HD so I do not need to upgrade to the full retail version yet ...correct?

Also I run multiple monitors projector is secondary dragging powerdvd on to the secondary works are their any issues doing this or should I run it as primary?

Thanks rick

some questions from newbie to HD just completed new machine

LG Dual Blu and HD drive
8800GT on GA-P35-DS4
4GB RAM
8400 3GHz core duo


I have oem version with my drive and it seems to pass 5.1 DD ok and my receiver does not support True HD so I do not need to upgrade to the full retail version yet ...correct?

Also I run multiple monitors projector is secondary dragging powerdvd on to the secondary works are their any issues doing this or should I run it as primary?
Thanks rick

I run the PJ on the secondary, works just fine, no problems.

Do you have MCE configured for 5.1 audio?

I still don't understand how MCE can change the settings for PDVD. PowerDVD is a separate program and it runs as a separate program, even if launched while MCE is already running.

I have MCE configured for 7.1, I don't get it either but it happens every time. However if i manually change it to 8 channels or launch it before MCE it doesn't lose this setting when I use MCE to play a BD etc. I have no idea what is going on but it makes the whole thing pointless for me..

I selected SPDIF and 8 channels.

The PC also has a selector for the number of channels and that is set to 8.

If I change to 4 channels then I get voices. Anything above 4 and no more voices. This is the same for the 3 DVD formats.

If I use mediacenter XP to play the Standard DVD I get voices. The samd DVD in PDVD and no voices.

Thanks,

John

Are you using an OEM version as I think they are restricted to two channels?

Hi everybody,

I am having a problem with my system and I am hoping one of you gurus can help me. Here is my system specs:

Opty 170
2 Gigs Ram
8800GTX HDCP with 100.59 driver
37" Westinghouse 1080P HDCP
Vista Ultimate Edition
XBOX HD DVD drive
Power DVD Ultra - Purchased 2/1/07

I begin by double clicking PowerDVD icon and the player appears and states it is the HD version like it should. The problem however is everytime I click play, it crashes after 2 secs. Vista reports that "PowerDVD has stopped working" It happens regardless of whether I play an HD or SD movie. It is so annoying because I have so much money invested in this PC just so I can watch a damn HD movie and it won't do it. I checked the logs in Vista and noticed that a certain .DLL file is causing it to crash everytime (I will post the specific one when I get home from work). Cyberlink tech support is non-exsistent and the only phone support they offer is $29.95 which is ludacris after spending $100 on the player that won't even help you. Is there anybody else out there that is having these problems? Or anybody that has some suggestions for me I would really appreciate it.

Thanks for your time,

Porscheman170

Same here, just filed a web ticket with cyberlink.

I'm running XP box with ATI 3850HD and the LG GGC-H20L drive and I can't play a darn thing with it, no matter what settings I try.

Hit play, drive lights blink a couple times, PowerDVD disappears unceremoniously .

The only thing I can think of is that I had previously been using powerDvd codecs with ZoomPlayer (from a previous OEM disk) and maybe the old version is interfering? I even tried uninstalling powerDvd, regedited out the cyberlink stuff, reinstalled, nothing changed....

I was able to both mediaPlayer and Zoomplayer to play a DVD (ZP using the new powerdvd6 codecs) fine, but powervd won't even play a DVD, just go's away when I hit play.

I even tried anyDvd in unison to be sure it wasn't an HDMI issue, as well as attempting to play back from HDD. nada!

I had exactly the same problem under XP with the same drive (LG GGC-H20L) and an x1950pro. The drawback is that it was all cured by.... a clean installation of XP. No piggin idea what made it crash. I dont think I had much more than Windows Media Player and WinDvd on there before, I definitely didn't have the playing software you mentioned.

I didn't mind the clean install, I was going to build an HTPC from scratch anyway, but I imagine this solution is the last resort to most people.

After the endless c**king about with various Catalyst drivers (currently winging it with 7.8), crappy PowerDvd patches, and every other kind of minor disaster I never even expected, I'll probably do another clean installation once I've worked out which bizarre set of software actually works.

Sorry!

I had exactly the same problem under XP with the same drive (LG GGC-H20L) and an x1950pro. The drawback is that it was all cured by.... a clean installation of XP.

Yeah, in my heart I know a clean install would fix it, but I would rather resolve it another way. My XP install is just the way I like it.

I had powerDvd installed previously, which is probably the cause, guess I'll try a sweep through the folders and regedit and a fresh install again.

thanks!

so what is the best way to eliminate the crushing blacks in pdvd-downgrade to 163.69 nvidia drivers or adjust gamma, brightness , contrast in the control panel?

I don't know about the new SP3 for XP, but with Vista SP1 changes the black levels significantly.

I suspect you'll find that the newest Nvidia drivers for Vista are setup to work with SP1 and without it they will be all messed up.

so what is the best way to eliminate the crushing blacks in pdvd-downgrade to 163.69 nvidia drivers or adjust gamma, brightness , contrast in the control panel?You do know there is a 'bug' in PDVD. By default, when an HDDVD is played it switches your graphics card to PC levels (0-255) from video levels (assuming, of course, you have your TV/PJ set up for video levels in the first place). This crushes blacks not only in PowerDVD, but from then until the next reboot in any other video app that does not specifically set levels itself (TheaterTek is an example).

Fortunately this is easily fixed by editing the registry. Change HKLM->Software->Cyberlink->PowerDVD ->HDDVD->COLORSPACE_OPTION from 3 to 1. That then works until you upgrade/re-install PDVD. other than that I have not had a problem with levels using Nvidia or ATI.

I'm currently running COLORSPACE_OPTION = 1 as my HD1000u seems to want tv levels (16-235). This takes care of the crushed blacks but it seems to mute the colors when compared to the original setting of 3. Anyone else notice this?

Also, I don't know if this was just my imagination but I tried setting it to 2 and it seemed to fix the black crush but didn't mute the colors as much setting it to 1. Anyone else try this care to comment?

You do know there is a 'bug' in PDVD. By default, when an HDDVD is played it switches your graphics card to PC levels (0-255) from video levels (assuming, of course, you have your TV/PJ set up for video levels in the first place). This crushes blacks not only in PowerDVD, but from then until the next reboot in any other video app that does not specifically set levels itself (TheaterTek is an example).

Fortunately this is easily fixed by editing the registry. Change HKLM->Software->Cyberlink->PowerDVD ->HDDVD->COLORSPACE_OPTION from 3 to 1. That then works until you upgrade/re-install PDVD. other than that I have not had a problem with levels using Nvidia or ATI.

How do you know this? Is there a place I can check it? I have an ATI card and ver 3319 of PDVD. Thx

I don't know about the new SP3 for XP, but with Vista SP1 changes the black levels significantly.

I suspect you'll find that the newest Nvidia drivers for Vista are setup to work with SP1 and without it they will be all messed up.

I can say for sure, this doesn't do anything.

The newer NVidia drivers just don't work with PDVD (I haven't used 3707 or whatever yet).

The *only* thing that fixes the black crush issue (at least on Vista), is to revert to the older version of the video drivers.

I tried everything else, including the COLORSPACE setting (which did abosolutely nothing).

I can't even remember the last time I used PDVD for HDM it's been so long.:rolleyes: It seems like it's getting worse and worse every time I check this thread, it's got to be the worst way to view your HDM as far as PQ.

I've NEVER EVER had problems with Blu-ray. Going on 9 months now. I guess it helps to buy a system that already comes certified and tested for this stuff... HP Media Center. Every single title I've ever rented worked flawlessly and looks "ridiculously" good. The only time I had any problem with PDVD was when I was playing some of the newer HD-DVD titles with Online Downloading option.

it's got to be the worst way to view your HDM as far as PQ.Only if something is borked in your system. Other than the new BD discs not playing properly without a PDVD update, I have had very few problems over the last 6 months with PDVD Ultra for HD DVD and BD playback. I am using a Sony Qualia 004 on a very large (5'x14') screen and I am ultra-critical of image quality.

I have standalone players for both BD and HD DVD and PDVD matches or exceeds the standalones in image quality. Having high quality hardware helps a bunch. The newest ATI cards deliver excellent image quality. I have been a NVidia fan for many years, but ATI is the current leader in the HD playback arena.

The problems with new BD releases is not Cyberlinks fault either. BD was hatched before it's time and with incomplete standards and implementations and now we are all paying the price.
Sony is a prime offender, first with rootkits on CD and now with oddball mastering on BD disks.

Vern

Sony is a prime offender, first with rootkits on CD and now with oddball mastering on BD disks.
Vern

Sony is like Jose Canseco in the prime of his career. When they hit a home run, they crush it. But the rest of the time, they're a liability in the field and they strike out a lot.:p

Only if something is borked in your system. Other than the new BD discs not playing properly without a PDVD update, I have had very few problems over the last 6 months with PDVD Ultra for HD DVD and BD playback. I am using a Sony Qualia 004 on a very large (5'x14') screen and I am ultra-critical of image quality.

I have standalone players for both BD and HD DVD and PDVD matches or exceeds the standalones in image quality. Having high quality hardware helps a bunch. The newest ATI cards deliver excellent image quality. I have been a NVidia fan for many years, but ATI is the current leader in the HD playback arena.

The problems with new BD releases is not Cyberlinks fault either. BD was hatched before it's time and with incomplete standards and implementations and now we are all paying the price.
Sony is a prime offender, first with rootkits on CD and now with oddball mastering on BD disks.

Vern

Nothing to do with hardware, it's the overlays the sw players use, which creates banding and artifacts that's why a lot of us use MPC in XP for the superior PQ.;) Projectors may have subtle differences compared to 10bit panels and may be harder to detect the flaws, but most assured VMR9 is far superior to overlay.

Edit: Rephrased

How do you know this? Is there a place I can check it? I have an ATI card and ver 3319 of PDVD. ThxAll I can say is my system is calibrated within an inch of it's life. I noticed straight away after playing an HD-DVD that blacks were crushed, even in TheaterTek after using PowerDVD to play HD-DVD. A quick search online and I found other references to this registry setting.

I have switched back and forward between these settings and abolutely it fixes my problem and (to answer the other query) it has no negative side effects.

Of course by switching from 0-255 to 16-235 it does bring down the white level too. If your set is not properly calibrated at the top end then you could see a dulled effect, but on a correctly calibrated set it will fix "blown whites" as well as crushed blacks. often though this is not so immediately obvious.

I have logged this with Cyberlink support and they have not disputed it. Indeed they have said it is with R&D to fix.

One thing i should say though is like all things PC I cannot guarantee that all cards and drivers take note of this setting. I was using a 7600GT with 16x.xx series drivers when testing. However, I can say with that card and with my new 3850 (8.1 Catalyst) PowerDVD has no problem with levels after the registry fix.

Jon

I just watched 3:10 to Yuma. It was perfect... I had upgraded to 3730 without a hitch.

Are you in Region A? Here in the UK I have a region B version of the disc and 3730 doesn't work for me on 3:10 to Yuma (and I downloaded and installed the full 3730 installset so its definitely the right version).

it's the overlays the sw players use, which creates banding and artifacts Banding usually comes from converting between video and PC levels without having enough color depth to handle the conversion seamlessly, which is usually a driver / software / calibration issue, not from anything inherent in overlay.

I also use Theatertek, Zoomplayer and MPC all of which allows one to choose between VMR7, VMR9 and overlay by using custom filter graphs. One has to be very careful with video levels and calibration or banding can creep into any of the different renderers.

I have been doing the HTPC thing since before Theatertek and ZP came out, so I am pretty familiar with the environment and the pitfalls.

Vern

I can't even remember the last time I used PDVD for HDM it's been so long.:rolleyes: It seems like it's getting worse and worse every time I check this thread, it's got to be the worst way to view your HDM as far as PQ.

I am returning an A35 today just because the PQ from PowerDVD was the same or better (IMO better) than the stand-alone.

So after reading several threads and hundreds of posts, I think PowerDVD may work out alright for me as a Bluray playback device, but I'd like to double check for any issues before I purchase.

Current HTPC:

ASUS P5E-VM HDMI Motherboard (G35 chipset), connected via HDMI to my display (Mitsu 4900 FP, 1080p @ 60Hz)
The audio is currently going from the Realtek ALC 883 onboard the m/b via spdif to my Denon 3803
CPU is a C2D Quad-core Extreme, and 2 GB of RAM
HD content is currently coming in via Hauppage HDTV Gold ATSC tuner for PVR under Vista MC

I currently use (and like quite well) Vista Media Center, and from reading HT Slider's post, it seems that I can use My Movies 2.42 and PowerDVD Ultra build 3730 to watch Bluray discs. I have read the thread on PowerDVD downsampling audio to 48KHz and I don't really care. I do have a question regarding audio though, because I plan to upgrade my system with:


Onkyo 705
LiteOn LH-2B1S Bluray reader/writer
PowerDVD Ultra 3730
My Movies 2.42

1) So I understand PowerDVD can decode the HD audio formats, but what is not clear to me is whether it will allow me to instead bitstream the audio (for all formats, be it DD, DD+, TrueHD, DTS-HD HR/MA) to the receiver over my onboard HDMI?

2) Does anyone know whether to G35 integrated gfx will have black level issues? Do I need to change the COLORSPACE_OPTION registry entry?

3) How about HDCP or other "handshake" issues with PowerDVD/Vista/G35 HDMI/Onkyo AVR/1080p HDCP display? Is there any problem convincing PowerDVD that it is connected to an HDCP display when there is a repeater (AVR) in the chain?

4) It's also unclear to me whether there is any reason to install the older PowerDVD build if I only plan to use PowerDVD for Bluray disc playback?

5) As an aside (I know this is the PowerDVD thread), has anyone had experience with the LiteOn LH-2B1S drive, positive or negative?

6) A catch all question: any issues I should be concerned about with this setup aside from PowerDVD's crappy remote-able UI, such as frequent crashes or disc compatibility issues?

Thanks everyone for lending me your experience with this bleeding edge stuff :)

Nathan

just installed 3730 and it crashes after 4-7 seconds of the first trailer clips of Casino Royale.
Previously I'd used the last patch to permit playing from HDD with no probs.
right now I'm tyring to play from Blu-ray disc

169.28 and tried regressing to 169.25
X2 4400+
8600GT
2Gb Ram
Vista Ultimate 32
X-Meridian with latest drivers
Pioneer BDC-202BK 5x BD-ROM
Latest AnyDVD HD (on and off)



I've spent days on this now, it's driving me up the wall :mad:
I've done everythin bar re-install windows.
System Restore is a must, I practically have to set one before launching PDVD it's so unstable.

I had everything running before at 3104a and was so tempted by the non-downsampling that I went for 3730.

It crashes, either seconds into playback or on launch.
So I uninstalled, re-booting constantly (which takes forever once PDVD has gone AWOL, cause it won't be stopped and restarts take about 15mins and sometimes have BSODs just for the fun of it).

So clean machine, Cyberlink filters removed with filmerit. Stable. restarts and shutsdown cleanly. Made a system restore to come back to.
The closest I get to stable is with base 2911, but of course that can't play s**t.
So I've tried going straight to 3730, or from 3319f (which can play DVDs but dies at the sight of a blue disc) then onto 3730.
All of which results in lots of hour glassing on launch of PDVD and very slow restarts.
So in summary WTF!? Wasted my money 'cause although it once worked now it doesn't

Spanner
Before buying a key for PowerDVD email Cyberlink support. Tell them you have an OEM version that isn't playing some of your discs. They'll most likely send you a download link and a key for the retail. (I've heard this happened for several people).

I can confirm that you need the retail version with the latest patch (3730) to play 3:10 to Yuma properly.
Not sure about your other discs.


ballenjr

Interesting, I have retail PDVD and I am at version 3730, when starting 3:10 to Yuma it wants to playback at a lower resolution saying something about optimal playback experiance...? You can coose to down rez or go for full hi-def, both seem to work.

What's this about? Anybody know?

Strange. We use SPDIF and the audio has always worked perfectly.

Our motherboard (GA-P35-DS4) includes DTS Connect and with some movies we can select different audio tracks. DD5.1 and DTS tracks are directly output over the SPDIF connection unaltered, but TrueHD and other 8 channel audio selections are passed to the Realtek HD audio on the motherboard and then encoded to DTS before being passed to the Yamaha receiver. To be honest the 8 channel audio sources sound, if anything, slightly better than DD5.1 tracks (even though they are digitally encoded to DTS with only 5.1 channels).

I've been quite impressed at how well the audio works. We never have to go into the driver settings for the audio ever. Everything just works and works very well as far as audio is concerned.

I have the same mobo in my HTPC and can confirm that the audio playback has worked very well from the beginning, SPDIF from the mobo to my Denon receiver.

BTW, Slider, I have not had any issues going between Vista Media Center, IE/desktop and PDVD on my connected projector, but then again I leave the resolution of the desktop set to the native resolution of the projector, in my case 1920x1080.

Other then the desire for a specific resolution, why couldn't you do the same?

All I can say is my system is calibrated within an inch of it's life. I noticed straight away after playing an HD-DVD that blacks were crushed, even in TheaterTek after using PowerDVD to play HD-DVD. A quick search online and I found other references to this registry setting.

I have switched back and forward between these settings and abolutely it fixes my problem and (to answer the other query) it has no negative side effects.

Of course by switching from 0-255 to 16-235 it does bring down the white level too. If your set is not properly calibrated at the top end then you could see a dulled effect, but on a correctly calibrated set it will fix "blown whites" as well as crushed blacks. often though this is not so immediately obvious.

I have logged this with Cyberlink support and they have not disputed it. Indeed they have said it is with R&D to fix.

One thing i should say though is like all things PC I cannot guarantee that all cards and drivers take note of this setting. I was using a 7600GT with 16x.xx series drivers when testing. However, I can say with that card and with my new 3850 (8.1 Catalyst) PowerDVD has no problem with levels after the registry fix.

Jon

The colors/grey levels are crushed on my system also. My HDTV was calibrated using component video and a hardware DVD player several years ago and my HTPC is hooked up through DVI (never been properly calibrated). I've "calibrated" the system using the video driver (CCC) so this adds to the crushed grey levels.

I'm waiting for Vista SP1 before I properly recalibrate the HDTV though. I've spoken to many people, including employees of Microsoft within the ehome team (Media Center) who have told me grey levels are significantly changed with Vista SP1. This is an OS and driver specific change, not a change with Media Center specifically and it will almost certainly affect PowerDVD under Vista (hopefully for the better).

BTW, Slider, I have not had any issues going between Vista Media Center, IE/desktop and PDVD on my connected projector, but then again I leave the resolution of the desktop set to the native resolution of the projector, in my case 1920x1080.

Other then the desire for a specific resolution, why couldn't you do the same?

We currently do the same with our system (desktop at 1920x1080).

The issue is that prior to installing PowerDVD we had the desktop configured to run at a custom resolution that was both readable and perfectly filled the 51" HDTV (compensating for overscan). This allowed anyone in our family (wife, children, parents while babysitting, etc.) to simply pull out the wireless keyboard and mouse and use the system to surf the web, fill out forms, word processing, launch games, etc. Note that our HDTV natively supports 720p as well as 1080i and both 1280x720 and 1920x1080 have overscan (so we need to use a custom resolution using 720p timing for clear text without overscan).

Now that I am forced to make the desktop run at 1920x1080 (if we want 1080i HD), everyone needs to first change the resolution if they want to be able to surf the web, etc. Everyone then forgets to change it back to 1920x1080 after surfing the web so when we start up an HD-DVD or Blue-ray I then end up pulling out the keyboard and changing it back finally to 1920x1080.

The HTPC, with PowerDVD, still works well for its primary purpose - a dedicated 24/7 HTPC, but this takes away from the overall seemless capabilities and makes everything seem like something of a hack. The inability for PowerDVD to change to 1920x1080 is VERY annoying to me (since I built the system and I'm a perfectionist...).

Note that Vista Media Center automatically switches to 1920x1080 regardless of the desktop so we always get full HD quality when watching our Recorded TV (recorded from HD channels obviously...). It is only PowerDVD that doesn't know how to change resolutions.

We currently do the same with our system (desktop at 1920x1080).

The issue is that prior to installing PowerDVD we had the desktop configured to run at a custom resolution that was both readable and perfectly filled the 51" HDTV (compensating for overscan). This allowed anyone in our family (wife, children, parents while babysitting, etc.) to simply pull out the wireless keyboard and mouse and use the system to surf the web, fill out forms, word processing, launch games, etc. Note that our HDTV natively supports 720p as well as 1080i and both 1280x720 and 1920x1080 have overscan (so we need to use a custom resolution using 720p timing for clear text without overscan).

Now that I am forced to make the desktop run at 1920x1080 (if we want 1080i HD), everyone needs to first change the resolution if they want to be able to surf the web, etc. Everyone then forgets to change it back to 1920x1080 after surfing the web so when we start up an HD-DVD or Blue-ray I then end up pulling out the keyboard and changing it back finally to 1920x1080.

The HTPC, with PowerDVD, still works well for its primary purpose - a dedicated 24/7 HTPC, but this takes away from the overall seemless capabilities and makes everything seem like something of a hack. The inability for PowerDVD to change to 1920x1080 is VERY annoying to me (since I built the system and I'm a perfectionist...).

Note that Vista Media Center automatically switches to 1920x1080 regardless of the desktop so we always get full HD quality when watching our Recorded TV (recorded from HD channels obviously...). It is only PowerDVD that doesn't know how to change resolutions.

Curious, what the 'native' resolution of your HDTV?

5) As an aside (I know this is the PowerDVD thread), has anyone had experience with the LiteOn LH-2B1S drive, positive or negative?

Mine has been working well for over a year now. I did have to upgrade the firmware.

6) A catch all question: any issues I should be concerned about with this setup aside from PowerDVD's crappy remote-able UI, such as frequent crashes or disc compatibility issues?


There have been problems with new releases, many of them won't play until Cyberlink releases a new patch. Not really their fault, as mentioned it's more a problem with an evolving BD spec than anything else.

Hi,

I don't wish to appear lazy, but I'm currently stuck 75 miles away from my terminally inept HTPC setup with PowerDvd, and I've finally got an answer from Cyberlink's customer support. They tell me to update my OEM version of Power DVD with a file called

CyberLink.3516_PF2_DVD071122-01.exe

to fix my problems with the film 3:10 to Yuma. Now the catch is, I made it pretty clear in my problem report to Cyberlink that I've tried 3516 and 3730 and neither will install. Does anyone know if the filename they've given me is the same filename they used for the standard 3516 (as they've removed that patch number from the download section of their website), or is it a variation meant for OEM installs as opposed to Retail installs?

Either way I can't try it til the weekend, so I was just wondering if anyone has the standard patch 3516 and knows what the full filename was?

I have a sneaking suspicion they didn't even read my piggin problem report and are just palming me off with the same rubbish. If they are, it'll set back my PowerDvd bug-fixing by about a fortnight...

Thanks

spanner...I had a similar undiagnosable problem with Cyberlink not installing about a month ago. I ended up re-installing Vista from scratch and then installing the latest Cyberlink and all sorts of problems disappeared.
I think it might have been a corrupt file in the audio driver though I'm not sure.

Is anyone running PowerDVD and the Intel G35 Chipset for Video? I have heard that this chipset is unsupported?

I believe it is supported ... it's ARCSoft (except the Japanese demo?) and Nero that don't appear to work...

:cool:

Curious, what the 'native' resolution of your HDTV?

It is a rear projection TV and the projection unit actually supports scanning at several different frequencies/formats. The unit supports 540p, 720p and 1080i (it will also run at 1440i, but it is not officially supported). It does not natively support 480i/p, nor 1080p. If it recieves 480i/p, depending on a user selectable setting, it will upconvert it to 720p or 1080i (and do a terrible job of it I might add).

Since 1080i is interlaced it isn't any good for text, on the other hand 720p works quite well for text. Although I've tried to calibrate out some of the overscan, it still has quite a bit in horizontal (flaws in the image start to apear on the left side of the screen if I shrink it too far).

I am trying to get BD playback on an ASUS board. WinDVD 8 LE came with the drive, but doesn;t work with intel G35. On the PwoerDVD site it does not list G35 as supported, so I am trying to see if anyone is running PowerDVD on the G35 Chipset.

I am trying to get BD playback on an ASUS board. WinDVD 8 LE came with the drive, but doesn;t work with intel G35. On the PwoerDVD site it does not list G35 as supported, so I am trying to see if anyone is running PowerDVD on the G35 Chipset.

I am running on ASUS P5E-VM (G35 Chipset) BLURAY Play fine from HDD.

I am trying to get BD playback on an ASUS board. WinDVD 8 LE came with the drive, but doesn;t work with intel G35. On the PwoerDVD site it does not list G35 as supported, so I am trying to see if anyone is running PowerDVD on the G35 Chipset.

Sounds like you're trying the same thing I'm building: ASUS P5E-VM HDMI + Bluray playback... but I don't have the Bluray drive yet. Please post back if you get things working or run into problems!

EDIT: just saw honeybrain's post, cool.

@ honeybrain: what is your audio setup? Are you using the spdif or HDMI audio?

BTW, for those of you commenting about the grey level issues with the current ATI and Nvidia drivers, here is a post from Microsoft explaining the issue and the fact that the latest drivers are configured to work properly with Vista SP1.

http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/241856.aspx

As far as where to get Vista SP1 RTM, that is another issue.

I personally managed to download a copy from:

http://winvistaforums.com/blogs/bios/9-download-windows-vista-service-pack-1-sp1-upgrade.html

Unfortunately their bandwidth limits have been exceeded...

I was recently told if you save the following as a .bat file and run it as administrator, that these registry changes will allow Windows Update to install SP1 RTM. This is unofficial, but I've seen screenshots that confirm the RTM version is what Windows Update is currently installing. Note I have not tried it myself.

@echo off

reg delete HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\WindowsUpdate\VistaSp1 /f > NUL 2>&1
reg delete HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\ Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\VistaSP1 /f > NUL 2>&1

reg add HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\WindowsUpdate\VistaSp1 /v Beta1 /t REG_SZ /d dcf99ef8-d784-414e-b411-81a910d2761d /f
IF NOT %errorlevel% == 0 ( goto ERROR)

:SUCCESS
@echo.
echo ================================================== =========
echo Windows Vista SP1 registry key has been set successfully.
echo Please check for updates in Windows Update.
echo ================================================== =========
@echo.
goto END

:ERROR
@echo.
echo ================================================== =========
echo FAILED to set Windows Vista SP1 registry keys.
echo Please run this script by right clicking and selecting
echo "Run as Administrator".
echo ================================================== =========
@echo.
goto END

:END
pause

Essentially the way this works is you enable the SP1 RC Beta program (just like all of the Beta testers did) and then it automatically updates you to the RTM (since everyone who Beta tested is now eligible for the full RTM release as of a couple of days ago).

To make Windows Update provide SP1, once you change the registry you need to run Windows Update once, allow it to install some new installer software (for SP1), reboot, wait 5 minutes and then check for updates again. It will then offer you SP1 and you'll end up with the final release.

spanner...I had a similar undiagnosable problem with Cyberlink not installing about a month ago. I ended up re-installing Vista from scratch and then installing the latest Cyberlink and all sorts of problems disappeared.
I think it might have been a corrupt file in the audio driver though I'm not sure.

I initially tested my HD-DVD/Blu-Ray drive connected to my main PC, and couldn't get PowerDvd to work at all, so I did a clean XP installation on a spare partition of the hard drive. I could then install the PowerDvd 7.3 patch, but not the 3516 patch. For my HTPC, I then did another clean install of Xp on its hard disk, and tried the 3516 and 3730 patches, but neither worked. I can't say I'm keen on signing up for Vista, and I'm pretty sure another XP install won't do it. The two different PCs had different sound cards and drivers, so I doubt the problems are connected.

Thanks anyway.

Is anyone running PowerDVD and the Intel G35 Chipset for Video? I have heard that this chipset is unsupported?Cyberlink supports the G35 in Vista, but not XP.

-Dave

Sounds like you're trying the same thing I'm building: ASUS P5E-VM HDMI + Bluray playback... but I don't have the Bluray drive yet. Please post back if you get things working or run into problems!

EDIT: just saw honeybrain's post, cool.

@ honeybrain: what is your audio setup? Are you using the spdif or HDMI audio?

I am using HDMI out to my HannsG 28 LCD Monitor. Works fine

I am waiting for Vista SP1 refresh and try with my home theatre setup in couple of weeks. Then i can post my results.

It is a rear projection TV and the projection unit actually supports scanning at several different frequencies/formats. The unit supports 540p, 720p and 1080i (it will also run at 1440i, but it is not officially supported). It does not natively support 480i/p, nor 1080p. If it recieves 480i/p, depending on a user selectable setting, it will upconvert it to 720p or 1080i (and do a terrible job of it I might add).

Since 1080i is interlaced it isn't any good for text, on the other hand 720p works quite well for text. Although I've tried to calibrate out some of the overscan, it still has quite a bit in horizontal (flaws in the image start to apear on the left side of the screen if I shrink it too far).

From all of this it doesn't seem like it is a fixed panel (LCD, DLP or DILA) style but rather a CRT system?

It also sounds like you can select what resolution the TV will display the in comming signal at, if this is true why not set every thing to display at 720p?

From all of this it doesn't seem like it is a fixed panel (LCD, DLP or DILA) style but rather a CRT system?

It is a CRT, except it uses a CRT projector that shoots light against a translucent screen instead of shooting electrons at phosphor coated glass.

It also sounds like you can select what resolution the TV will display the in comming signal at, if this is true why not set every thing to display at 720p?

Although 720p doesn't flicker at all and is better for text (using the system as a PC); 1080i is noticably sharper, especially with 1080i/1080p video content and displaying photographs. The only time we notice any flicker with 1080i content is when the content has very fine (single pixel wide) horizontal lines that are artificially produced . All movies/video/TV looks excellent at 1080i (better than 720p).

This makes sense when you consider 720p is only 1280x720 resolution, when the actual content and the display is capable of 1920x1080 resolution (1080i).

Also consider that 1080i has an effective refresh of 30Hz (two 60Hz scans) which is still well above film at 24Hz. 720p runs at a true 60Hz, but there isn't much (if any) content that takes advantage of the actual 60Hz refresh (everything is either 24Hz or 30Hz, at least in North America). Essentially for video, TV and photographs 1080i is the best format to use with our HDTV.

BTW, for those of you commenting about the grey level issues with the current ATI and Nvidia drivers, here is a post from Microsoft explaining the issue and the fact that the latest drivers are configured to work properly with Vista SP1.I did not know of that bigger problem with Vista and SP1! For that and many other reasons I am glad my HTPC is, and intends to remain, on XP!

It is a CRT, except it uses a CRT projector that shoots light against a translucent screen instead of shooting electrons at phosphor coated glass..

Cool, would be interested to read more about it, what's the make and model? PM me if you like.



Although 720p doesn't flicker at all and is better for text (using the system as a PC); 1080i is noticably sharper, especially with 1080i/1080p video content and displaying photographs. The only time we notice any flicker with 1080i content is when the content has very fine (single pixel wide) horizontal lines that are artificially produced . All movies/video/TV looks excellent at 1080i (better than 720p).

This makes sense when you consider 720p is only 1280x720 resolution, when the actual content and the display is capable of 1920x1080 resolution (1080i).

Also consider that 1080i has an effective refresh of 30Hz (two 60Hz scans) which is still well above film at 24Hz. 720p runs at a true 60Hz, but there isn't much (if any) content that takes advantage of the actual 60Hz refresh (everything is either 24Hz or 30Hz, at least in North America). Essentially for video, TV and photographs 1080i is the best format to use with our HDTV.

Also interesting, and as you say, best to taylor the souce feed to the projection devices' strengths! I have found that 1080p24 works better for film sources that are stored in that format as it eliminates the judder caused from 3:2 pulldown.

The other thing I have also found that it is better to have to scale a source down to the display device rather then ask the display to upconvert to a higher resolution (you mentioned that 480i had to be upconverted by the projector and resulted in a poorer quality picture), so you already know this to be true.

I found that my last DLP projector did an excellant job of DVD's and Hi-Def because it used a very good scaler to match the incomming signal to the native resolution of the panel; 848x480, the Studio Experience Cinema 12SF.

That sp1 reg hack doesn't seem to work. I don't see any option to download sp1 when I check for updates...... Might have to wait a little longer.

That sp1 reg hack doesn't seem to work. I don't see any option to download sp1 when I check for updates...... Might have to wait a little longer.

I used the method outlined at this link
http://forums.hexus.net/operating-systems-applications/130351-howto-get-vista-service-pack-1-right-now.html

Worked well for me.

ballenjr

Cool, would be interested to read more about it, what's the make and model? PM me if you like.

By todays standards it is nothing special. Its just an "old" 51 inch rear projection Toshiba 51H83 that weighs 226 lbs. It was one of the first HDTVs to include HDCP on the DVI input port. Basically the CRT projector shoots backwards against a large curved mirror which bounces the light against the screen.

It does work very well considering it is now in its 6th year of use.

I used the method outlined at this link
http://forums.hexus.net/operating-systems-applications/130351-howto-get-vista-service-pack-1-right-now.html

Worked well for me.

ballenjr

That is the same method I posted above.

Can you confirm you ended up with the final RTM release (no expiration in April this year)?

The version available through Windows Update last week expired in April (or was it May...?).

By todays standards it is nothing special. Its just an "old" 51 inch rear projection Toshiba 51H83 that weighs 226 lbs. It was one of the first HDTVs to include HDCP on the DVI input port. Basically the CRT projector shoots backwards against a large curved mirror which bounces the light against the screen.

It does work very well considering it is now in its 6th year of use.

Ahhh, I see, sounds like my livingroom TV, same kind of design although mine is definitly not considered a HDTV, having said that, the video amplifiers have the bandwith to resolve 1000 lines!

I have a Hitachi 50SX6P, still chugging along and comining up to it's 14th birthday! Give it a good signal and it displays an amazing picture.

That sp1 reg hack doesn't seem to work. I don't see any option to download sp1 when I check for updates...... Might have to wait a little longer.

Obviously not going to tell you where to look, and you do so at your own risk, but the files you want are Windows6.0-KB936330-x64.exe (if you're running 64bit) or Windows6.0-KB936330-x86.exe (32bit). Once you have those files, download a MD5 hash checker (search google) and run it against them.

Here are the MD5 hashes from both x86 and x64 RTM SP1 that the editors at ZDNET received directly from Microsoft.

32-bit (434MB): d597866e93bc8f80ecca234c4e9ce5a2
64-bit (726MB): 983308426e8ee7649f53b41f4e5c42d4

Link with the info is here, for those who'd rather see for themselves - http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12354-0.htm...amp;start=-9978 (http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12354-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=44163&messageID=816195&start=-9978)

If the hash your file has matches the corresponding one above, you have a legit RTM SP1 file.

Mods - if this is something you don't want here, please feel free to delete it.

That is the same method I posted above.

Can you confirm you ended up with the final RTM release (no expiration in April this year)?

The version available through Windows Update last week expired in April (or was it May...?).

I tried your method but got an error when I tried to run the .bat file I created. Probably something I did wrong. Thanks for letting me know this was even possible.

In checking my update history it says..

"Windows Vista Service Pack 1 Release Candidate 1 - Build 6001.18000 (x86)"

Apparently this build is the final RTM which will be released next month (from what I've read). There is no watermark on the desktop which the previous RC's had.

Let me know how to check and see if this SP has an expiration date.

ballenjr

I tried your method but got an error when I tried to run the .bat file I created. Probably something I did wrong. Thanks for letting me know this was even possible.

In checking my update history it says..

"Windows Vista Service Pack 1 Release Candidate 1 - Build 6001.18000 (x86)"

Apparently this build is the final RTM which will be released next month (from what I've read). There is no watermark on the desktop which the previous RC's had.

Let me know how to check and see if this SP has an expiration date.

ballenjr

Release Candidate 1 is definitely not the latest. Release Candidate 2 is the verstion that became RTM.

From what I've read though, the update history doesn't necessarily provide the correct information. I suspect that the knowledge base article that the release candidates were released under is the same number for all of the updates, including the final RTM.

You need to check your system information some how. I don't know exactly the best way, but you can definitely get some information by right clicking on Computer (desktop or start menu) and selecting "Properties".

Included on the information screen you will see "Windows edition" and if the final SP1 was installed, it will state that SP1 is installed. If a release candidate is installed, it will state something different such as SP1 Release Candidate x. It might also give you an expiry date for the release candidate if one is installed. If the final is installed it definitely won't show an expiry date.

Hopefully it is the final RTM that was installed. Please let us know. I have searched the web a little more just now and everyone seems to be stating that it is the final RTM that windows update is providing - so you're probably good to go...

Most importantly, how are the grey levels? Are the brightness levels better?

We currently do the same with our system (desktop at 1920x1080).

The issue is that prior to installing PowerDVD we had the desktop configured to run at a custom resolution that was both readable and perfectly filled the 51" HDTV (compensating for overscan). This allowed anyone in our family (wife, children, parents while babysitting, etc.) to simply pull out the wireless keyboard and mouse and use the system to surf the web, fill out forms, word processing, launch games, etc. Note that our HDTV natively supports 720p as well as 1080i and both 1280x720 and 1920x1080 have overscan (so we need to use a custom resolution using 720p timing for clear text without overscan).

Now that I am forced to make the desktop run at 1920x1080 (if we want 1080i HD), everyone needs to first change the resolution if they want to be able to surf the web, etc. Everyone then forgets to change it back to 1920x1080 after surfing the web so when we start up an HD-DVD or Blue-ray I then end up pulling out the keyboard and changing it back finally to 1920x1080.

The HTPC, with PowerDVD, still works well for its primary purpose - a dedicated 24/7 HTPC, but this takes away from the overall seemless capabilities and makes everything seem like something of a hack. The inability for PowerDVD to change to 1920x1080 is VERY annoying to me (since I built the system and I'm a perfectionist...).

Note that Vista Media Center automatically switches to 1920x1080 regardless of the desktop so we always get full HD quality when watching our Recorded TV (recorded from HD channels obviously...). It is only PowerDVD that doesn't know how to change resolutions.

You aren't forced to run the desktop at 1080i at all. Like I said in another thread, if you use PowerStrip (and there are other options if PowerStrip isn't your thing) you can configure things so that your resolution switches to 1080i when you start PowerDVD and returns to the previous resolution when you exit. You can do this for each app that requires a resolution that's different than your prefered desktop resolution. Except for some odd use cases (such as starting 2 or more programs that switch resolutions without exiting the previous one), this will solve your problem.

Release Candidate 1 is definitely not the latest. Release Candidate 2 is the verstion that became RTM.

From what I've read though, the update history doesn't necessarily provide the correct information. I suspect that the knowledge base article that the release candidates were released under is the same number for all of the updates, including the final RTM.

You need to check your system information some how. I don't know exactly the best way, but you can definitely get some information by right clicking on Computer (desktop or start menu) and selecting "Properties".

Included on the information screen you will see "Windows edition" and if the final SP1 was installed, it will state that SP1 is installed. If a release candidate is installed, it will state something different such as SP1 Release Candidate x. It might also give you an expiry date for the release candidate if one is installed. If the final is installed it definitely won't show an expiry date.

Hopefully it is the final RTM that was installed. Please let us know. I have searched the web a little more just now and everyone seems to be stating that it is the final RTM that windows update is providing - so you're probably good to go...

Most importantly, how are the grey levels? Are the brightness levels better?

Right clicking on Computer and pulling up properties says....
Windows Vista Ultimate
Copyright 2007........
Service Pack 1

No mention of Release Candidate anywhere.

I am on older NVIDIA drivers (160.03) so I can't say whether this corrected the problems with color expansion.

I think you're safe to try this service pack out. Almost definately the final release.

ballenjr

Right clicking on Computer and pulling up properties says....
Windows Vista Ultimate
Copyright 2007........
Service Pack 1

No mention of Release Candidate anywhere.

I am on older NVIDIA drivers (160.03) so I can't say whether this corrected the problems with color expansion.

I think you're safe to try this service pack out. Almost definately the final release.

ballenjr


I can - the 160.03 is what fixed the black crush and other issues. Nothing else fixes this in Vista, including SP1.

Hey folks,

Thanks for the answer on PowerDVD supporting the G35 HDMI video output on the ASUS P5E-VM HDMI. Also thanks for the info on the LiteOn drive, sounds like a reasonable drive to get.

Nobody has replied about PowerDVD bitstreaming audio over HDMI, and this is probably the biggest question I've got to answer before I can buy. Does anyone have any experience with using the PowerDVD + G35 HDMI audio to stream compressed and/or PCM audio to an AVR capable of doing the audio decode (e.g. streaming TrueHD to an Onkyo 705)?

Thanks,
Nathan

7.1 pcm only.... no bitstreaming of advanced HD codecs....

7.1 pcm only.... no bitstreaming of advanced HD codecs....

There is nothing wrong with having PDVD decode and send via PCM, right?

From what I understand, the new HD codecs are simply like a zip file (not exactly, but for explaination purposes it works). It does not matter where it is unzipped (decoded), the final result is identical.

This is different from the older, non-HD codecs.

Am I right?

cyberstage, that's my understanding.
add to this that Hollywood hasn't yet released an HD disk with flags permitting players to send the bitstream on, and you get a variable that is both impossible and useless.

7.1 pcm only.... no bitstreaming of advanced HD codecs....

i thought that pdvd only sent the 7.1 track out the analog 7.1 connections. the digital info is limited to 5.1, no?

no

Now there's finally a solution to run powerdvd ultra within mediaportal, great.

So, next question is - how do u upscale standard dvd's with powerdvd ultra (to 1080p) ?

i thought that pdvd only sent the 7.1 track out the analog 7.1 connections. the digital info is limited to 5.1, no?


I think you're right (and disagree with the above poster who answered no), unless he clarifies.

SPDIF can't handle more than 5.1 LPCM, and compressed DD/DTS 5.1/6.1. SPDIF *can't* handle 7.1 LPCM or any of the new formats (TrueHD, DTS-MA/HD). You can only get these through HDMI, or analog.

So the only way to get 7.1 currently from a PC is via a sound board that supports 7.1 analog outs.

Correct, spdif cannot carry 7.1 LPCM, but HDMI can! The Intel G35-based mobos have HDMI audio, which has sufficient bandwidth for 7.1 LPCM, and people have confirmed they are getting 7.1 LPCM from it using PowerDVD. So Jim White is correct, but his brevity initially had me wondering too... until I found this thread which confirms that Power DVD will output LPCM 7.1 on my motherboard (Asus P5E-VM HDMI):

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=938473

Worth mentioning is that there IS a downsampling going on in PowerDVD, so we still don't have a perfect audio solution... read all about it in the above thread :)

Are you sure that PowerDVD can output 7.1 LPCM via analog? Is it LPCM only or also 7.1 TrueHD and DD+? I have a 7.1 TrueHD and 7.1 DD+ sound test and I cannot get 8 discrete channels out of PDVD (even with the latest build). My sound card driver utility can output 8 discrete channels, so the issue isn't with my soundcard (X-Meridien). In PDVD I have it set to 8 channels and no other effects.

For those interested, I have a response from PDVD Cyberlink Online Support regarding ACROSS THE UNIVERSE:

"Dear Kevin,

Thank you for contacting CyberLink Online Support.

We understand your concern related with PowerDVD Ultra.

We sincerely apologize for the inconvinience that you have had faced so far.

We have forwarded this issue to our Product and Development team and they have assured us that they are going to release a patch soon to rectify this issue.

We request you to please visit the website regularly to get the latest updates regarding this issue.

We really appreciate your patience and cooperation with us.

Please feel free to contact us back for any further clarification or for any assistance related to CyberLink Products.

Thank You and Best Regards"

I honestly expected a canned answer. Hopefully a patch will be released soon.

Integration of PDVD with XP Media Center 2005 and PDDVD 3730 Retail.

I read the post by HT Slider and I downloaded Mymovies 2.2 and installed the program and in the setup asked it to use PDDVD to play HD movies. It looked good and I highlighted the movie Corpse Bride (Bluray) and clicked watch. It did something and then went back to the same screen but no PDDVD and the movie didn't play. I then highlighted the drive in Mymovies and clicked watch. It then looked as though it was working because in the center of the screen it said PDDVD Ultra and the hour glass showed. The hour glass never went away, the movie didn't play and in the end I had to force shutdown of PDDVD. I did this a couple times and reset the PC but it doesn't work and I still can't play a HD movie from within Media Center.

Please let me know how to fix this.

Thanks,
John

Are you sure that PowerDVD can output 7.1 LPCM via analog? Is it LPCM only or also 7.1 TrueHD and DD+? I have a 7.1 TrueHD and 7.1 DD+ sound test and I cannot get 8 discrete channels out of PDVD (even with the latest build). My sound card driver utility can output 8 discrete channels, so the issue isn't with my soundcard (X-Meridien). In PDVD I have it set to 8 channels and no other effects.

I don't know the details of setting up Vista + PowerDVD + your sound card, so I can't help you. But it does appear that PowerDVD will output 7.1 LPCM audio (downsampled to 48KHz/16bits unfortunately) if properly configured. It does this regardless of whether the track is native LPCM, or TrueHD, etc.... in the cases of compressed audio (such as TrueHD) PowerDVD decodes before streaming the LPCM.

What I'm citing is the Intel G35 chipset thread referenced above. Folks in that thread, not I, have confirmed 7.1 LPCM output over the HDMI digital audio connection on the Asus P5E-VM HDMI mobo.

There have been a lot of folks with various issues ranging from HDMI audio device detection, to PowerDVD configuration, to Vista audio configuration, to AVR configuration posting and getting help on that G35 thread. I know it's not your setup, but it might have some tips that apply to you... it's a pretty good thread to read through IMO, not a lot of misinformation thanks to a few experts putting a lot of time in.

Good luck,
Nathan

I don't know the details of setting up Vista + PowerDVD + your sound card, so I can't help you. But it does appear that PowerDVD will output 7.1 LPCM audio (downsampled to 48KHz/16bits unfortunately) if properly configured. It does this regardless of whether the track is native LPCM, or TrueHD, etc.... in the cases of compressed audio (such as TrueHD) PowerDVD decodes before streaming the LPCM.

What I'm citing is the Intel G35 chipset thread referenced above. Folks in that thread, not I, have confirmed 7.1 LPCM output over the HDMI digital audio connection on the Asus P5E-VM HDMI mobo.

There have been a lot of folks with various issues ranging from HDMI audio device detection, to PowerDVD configuration, to Vista audio configuration, to AVR configuration posting and getting help on that G35 thread. I know it's not your setup, but it might have some tips that apply to you... it's a pretty good thread to read through IMO, not a lot of misinformation thanks to a few experts putting a lot of time in.

Good luck,
Nathan

Does it also do video over that HDMI port, or just Audio? If only audio, that seems semi-useless?

Does it also do video over that HDMI port, or just Audio? If only audio, that seems semi-useless?

It HAS to do video and Audio over HDMI, you can't have Audio without a video stream.

For those interested, I have a response from PDVD Cyberlink Online Support regarding ACROSS THE UNIVERSE:

"Dear Kevin,

Thank you for contacting CyberLink Online Support.

We understand your concern related with PowerDVD Ultra.

We sincerely apologize for the inconvinience that you have had faced so far.

We have forwarded this issue to our Product and Development team and they have assured us that they are going to release a patch soon to rectify this issue.

We request you to please visit the website regularly to get the latest updates regarding this issue.

We really appreciate your patience and cooperation with us.

Please feel free to contact us back for any further clarification or for any assistance related to CyberLink Products.

Thank You and Best Regards"

I honestly expected a canned answer. Hopefully a patch will be released soon.

Unfortunately, it is a canned answer...this was the exact same answer given when '3:10 to Yuma' wouldn't play with PDVD.

...I've finally got an answer from Cyberlink's customer support. They tell me to update my OEM version of Power DVD with a file called CyberLink.3516_PF2_DVD071122-01.exe to fix my problems with the film 3:10 to Yuma. Now the catch is, I made it pretty clear in my problem report to Cyberlink that I've tried 3516 and 3730 and neither will install. Does anyone know if the filename they've given me is the same filename they used for the standard 3516 (as they've removed that patch number from the download section of their website), or is it a variation meant for OEM installs as opposed to Retail installs?...

I have a sneaking suspicion they didn't even read my piggin problem report and are just palming me off with the same rubbish.Can't answer your exact question, but build 3516 can't play Yuma. I have 3516, and it doesn't. As I understand it, Yuma is a Blu-ray 1.1 disc, and 3730 is needed to play 1.1 discs.

I have the OEM PDVD, and I too sent a problem report to "customer support" about Yuma. I was hoping they'd give me a link to 3730, or at least tell me I needed to buy the retail PDVD. Instead they gave me a link to download 3516, which (a) is the version I already have and (b) doesn't fix the problem anyway. I replied (nicely) telling them this, and there's been no further response in several days. I guess they're stumped now...

Integration of PDVD with XP Media Center 2005 and PDDVD 3730 Retail.

I read the post by HT Slider and I downloaded Mymovies 2.2 and installed the program and in the setup asked it to use PDDVD to play HD movies. It looked good and I highlighted the movie Corpse Bride (Bluray) and clicked watch. It did something and then went back to the same screen but no PDDVD and the movie didn't play. I then highlighted the drive in Mymovies and clicked watch. It then looked as though it was working because in the center of the screen it said PDDVD Ultra and the hour glass showed. The hour glass never went away, the movie didn't play and in the end I had to force shutdown of PDDVD. I did this a couple times and reset the PC but it doesn't work and I still can't play a HD movie from within Media Center.

Please let me know how to fix this.

Thanks,
John

The problem is as of PowerDVD 3514 and up, Cyberlink disabled the ability to play content from the hard drive. Your choices are:

1. Install an older version of PowerDVD for full integration, but it can't play some of the very latest movies (unless the latest AnyDVD HD is installed).

2. Don't try to start an HD-DVD or Blue-ray DVD from within My Movies. Instead simply insert a disk in the drive and it will auto load from Media Center, or press the DVD button on the remote from within Media Center to watch a disk that is already inserted. If you try to watch an HD-DVD or Blue-ray movie from My Movies, the new versions of PowerDVD refuse to play them. You can still simply hit the green button to close PowerDVD and return to Media Center, even when PowerDVD is sitting there refusing to play the movie (no keyboard or mouse required).

Basically with the new versions of PowerDVD you can only play HD-DVD/Blu-ray movies that are in the DVD drive. Since you can't play content from the hard drive, you can't use My Movies to play content from the hard drive.

Since you can still watch any HD-DVD or Blue-ray disk that is actually inserted in the DVD drive, the My Movies integration with PowerDVD Ultra still meets our basic requirements (although I wish I could back up our disks to the hard drive and make full use of My Movies and PowerDVD Ultra).

If you want to use My Movies to play HD-DVD/Blue-ray movies off the hard drive, some people have been converting the movies into MKV files (I haven't tried to do this).

The other way that works is to use Daemon Tools to mount an iso image of the HD-DVD/Blue-ray and then play it with PowerDVD Ultra. My Movies does support Daemon Tools integration combined with PowerDVD Ultra, but again I have not tried it.

Integration of PDVD with XP Media Center 2005 and PDDVD 3730 Retail.

I read the post by HT Slider and I downloaded Mymovies 2.2 and installed...

I just re-read the posts and noticed you are only using My Movies 2.2.

2.2 is very old and may not support PowerDVD integration. You should be running the current release which is 2.42. You might also try 2.43 pre-release since it has been updated to work with the latest PowerDVD (it won't attempt to play from the hard drive). It is only a beta release though so use it at your own risk.

Has anyone calibrated their display with HDDVD DVE using power dvd?

I'm currently using power dvd 3319a,ATI X1900XT 7.11 drivers,xp pro and i have connected my htpc to my projector with an hdmi-hdmi cable....

I calibrated my projector using hddvd DVE(vc-1 encode) so i have black at 16 and white at 235..(i had to lower the contrast to -4 in the video tab configuration menu of power dvd to properly pass the below black information and to not have clipping of white..)

After saving the settings,i played 300hd-dvd(vc-1),u-571 hd-dvd(vc-1) everything looked ok!!!

But when i tried transformers hd-dvd(avc mpeg-4 encode)it was obvious that brigh/contrast settings were wrong!!I had to upper the brightness from the menu of my epson about 5 clicks(from -4 to +1)to get almost proper levels.....

I also tried hollowman br(avc mpeg-4 encode)and things were bad too.....:mad:

So maybe it's not the format of the movie we play about right or wrong levels(as wrote in other posts)but the encoding of the movie...(whether its vc-1 or avc..)...?????

Has anyone else came into this problem?Or is it just my current configuration that messes up things??:mad:

Unfortunately i dont have a BR vc-1 encode to check....

I also tried the registry setting(colorspace set to 1)but things acording to the pattern of DVE were the same...

Can't answer your exact question, but build 3516 can't play Yuma. I have 3516, and it doesn't. As I understand it, Yuma is a Blu-ray 1.1 disc, and 3730 is needed to play 1.1 discs.

I have the OEM PDVD, and I too sent a problem report to "customer support" about Yuma. I was hoping they'd give me a link to 3730, or at least tell me I needed to buy the retail PDVD. Instead they gave me a link to download 3516, which (a) is the version I already have and (b) doesn't fix the problem anyway. I replied (nicely) telling them this, and there's been no further response in several days. I guess they're stumped now...

I thought there was a link to 3730 on the Downloads->PowerDvd Ultra-> Updates part of their website, or available through the built-in updates button. My problem isn't actually that Yuma won't play as such, as this is supposedly fixed by build 3730. My problem is that none of the patches I get refered to will install on my OEM version of PowerDvd Ultra (except 7.3). Until I get a patch that will install, Yuma won't play.

I just re-read the posts and noticed you are only using My Movies 2.2.

2.2 is very old and may not support PowerDVD integration. You should be running the current release which is 2.42. You might also try 2.43 pre-release since it has been updated to work with the latest PowerDVD (it won't attempt to play from the hard drive). It is only a beta release though so use it at your own risk.

I'm sorry for the error, I am using Mymovies 2.42 X86. My problem has nothing to do with the hard drive and I guess I just wasn't clear and again I'm sorry. I've not even considered ripping HD or Bluray disks.

With the Bluray disk in the LG drive I can not play it from my remote control. I'm only trying to get this to behave similarly to any DVD player. Put disk in and press play on the remote. With a Bluray in the LG drive WIndows Media Center does not recognize the disk and says it's not a DVD. If I put the movie in the drive and close the drive I can not play the movie with the remote, I have to use the keyboard to open PDDVD. After PDDVD is open the remote works for basic functions except you can't open the drive which I also find annoying.

I really like the interface of the Mymovies but it sure seems worthless if I still can't play a movie without a keyboard.

I just received a response to this from Cyberlink. Between the lines.
_________________________________________________________
In regard to your first issue we woukd like to inform you that CyberLink PowerDVD does not fully support the Media Centre.

If are interested in using a remote control with PowerDVD Ultra then you can purchase the CyberLink Romote control from our website.
_________________________________________________________

I didn't know they had a remote control. Anyway to get the IR codes for a MX700.

Again I'm sorry for not having my facts straight.

John

I just received a response to this from Cyberlink. Between the lines.
_________________________________________________________
In regard to your first issue we woukd like to inform you that CyberLink PowerDVD does not fully support the Media Centre.

If are interested in using a remote control with PowerDVD Ultra then you can purchase the CyberLink Romote control from our website.
_________________________________________________________

I didn't know they had a remote control. Anyway to get the IR codes for a MX700.

Again I'm sorry for not having my facts straight.

John

I could really use those remote codes as well - if anyone gets them, can you either post on Remote Central or attach here? It's not a copyright issue to post remote code files.

Hey folks,

Thanks for the answer on PowerDVD supporting the G35 HDMI video output on the ASUS P5E-VM HDMI. Also thanks for the info on the LiteOn drive, sounds like a reasonable drive to get.

Nobody has replied about PowerDVD bitstreaming audio over HDMI, and this is probably the biggest question I've got to answer before I can buy. Does anyone have any experience with using the PowerDVD + G35 HDMI audio to stream compressed and/or PCM audio to an AVR capable of doing the audio decode (e.g. streaming TrueHD to an Onkyo 705)?

Thanks,
Nathan

I have the p5e-vm hdmi, onkyo 805 and tried to get truehd. All I was able to get was Front Left/Front Right stereo out of it (See my thread 8600GTS vs P5E-VM HDMI) and I know it should be more. I've fixed some things up and going to try again tonight, but not expecting much.

I thought there was a link to 3730 on the Downloads->PowerDvd Ultra-> Updates part of their website, or available through the built-in updates button. My problem isn't actually that Yuma won't play as such, as this is supposedly fixed by build 3730. My problem is that none of the patches I get refered to will install on my OEM version of PowerDvd Ultra (except 7.3). Until I get a patch that will install, Yuma won't play.

There is a link to that (for retail versions) but there isn't a 3730 update for the OEM yet. According to what I've read on this thread 3516 is currently the highest OEM version. 3:10 to Yuma or whatever is Profile 1.1 and it won't play on anything lower than 3730, so that is indeed your problem. So you have to wait, unfortunatley, to see if and when the update the OEM version.

I have the p5e-vm hdmi, onkyo 805 and tried to get truehd. All I was able to get was Front Left/Front Right stereo out of it (See my thread 8600GTS vs P5E-VM HDMI) and I know it should be more. I've fixed some things up and going to try again tonight, but not expecting much.

Thanks for the reply. Since my post I found the Intel G35 thread and read it end-to-end. I found out a few things:

- P5E-VM is HDMI 1.2, so it will never stream the compressed TrueHD or DTS-HD MA tracks
- P5E-VM + PowerDVD *will* decode TrueHD (and most others) and send out 7.1 channels of LPCM audio over the HDMI audio output, however there are a couple issues:

1) PowerDVD downsamples all audio to 48KHz/16bits due to DRM issues (basically they haven't integrated yet with MSFT Protected Media Path and neither has the Intel G35, so they feel they have to downsample to comply with AACS robustness rules). To me this is not a huge deal... 7.1 LPCM, even at 48KHz/16bits, is a lot better than what I am used to and would be fine until I get an HDMI 1.3a solution.

2) The Intel G35 HDMI device driver fails to recognize HDCP compliant sink (i.e. display) devices when attached to the sink via repeater device (such as the Onkyo AVR, or any other AVR for that matter). PowerDVD then refuses to output AACS material over HDMI because the sink device appears to be non-compliant. Unless a person wants to shell out $80 for a copy of AnyDVD to strip off the AACS DRM from the Bluray stream (or other ripping methods to bypass AACS) we're basically stuck waiting for a driver update from Intel before we can use the HDMI for both video and audio. This is a bigger issue for me because I don't really want to have to learn how to rip all my BD titles to HDD. It's still possible to use the HDMI video and spdif audio of course for DD or DTS, but that rather defeats the purpose of getting the G35-based mobo in the first place ;)

Nathan

Has anyone calibrated their display with HDDVD DVE using power dvd?

I'm currently using power dvd 3319a,ATI X1900XT 7.11 drivers,xp pro and i have connected my htpc to my projector with an hdmi-hdmi cable....

I calibrated my projector using hddvd DVE(vc-1 encode) so i have black at 16 and white at 235..(i had to lower the contrast to -4 in the video tab configuration menu of power dvd to properly pass the below black information and to not have clipping of white..)

After saving the settings,i played 300hd-dvd(vc-1),u-571 hd-dvd(vc-1) everything looked ok!!!

But when i tried transformers hd-dvd(avc mpeg-4 encode)it was obvious that brigh/contrast settings were wrong!!I had to upper the brightness from the menu of my epson about 5 clicks(from -4 to +1)to get almost proper levels.....

I also tried hollowman br(avc mpeg-4 encode)and things were bad too.....:mad:

So maybe it's not the format of the movie we play about right or wrong levels(as wrote in other posts)but the encoding of the movie...(whether its vc-1 or avc..)...?????

Has anyone else came into this problem?Or is it just my current configuration that messes up things??:mad:

Unfortunately i dont have a BR vc-1 encode to check....

I also tried the registry setting(colorspace set to 1)but things acording to the pattern of DVE were the same...

Interesting you say that. Firstly, how the hell did you get HD DVE to work!!?? Mine gets stuck at the menu. I ended up using the AV709 disc available here on the forum, and calibrated the brightness and contrast. But some movies look good and others look too dark. One that comes to mind is "Night at the Museum" That is way too dark IMO. Not sure what the encoding is though. All the Pirate movies look good though....

Since my post I found the Intel G35 thread and read it end-to-end.Just in case you have not already seen it, there is also some good G35 info in this thread. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=987595)

-Dave

I have the p5e-vm hdmi, onkyo 805 and tried to get truehd. All I was able to get was Front Left/Front Right stereo out of it (See my thread 8600GTS vs P5E-VM HDMI) and I know it should be more. I've fixed some things up and going to try again tonight, but not expecting much.You might have better luck posting in the G35 thread. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=938473)

Do you have the HDMI audio options available shown in the PDF file attached to this message? (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13005836#post13005836)

-Dave

I'm sorry for the error, I am using Mymovies 2.42 X86. My problem has nothing to do with the hard drive and I guess I just wasn't clear and again I'm sorry. I've not even considered ripping HD or Bluray disks.

With the Bluray disk in the LG drive I can not play it from my remote control. I'm only trying to get this to behave similarly to any DVD player. Put disk in and press play on the remote. With a Bluray in the LG drive WIndows Media Center does not recognize the disk and says it's not a DVD. If I put the movie in the drive and close the drive I can not play the movie with the remote, I have to use the keyboard to open PDDVD. After PDDVD is open the remote works for basic functions except you can't open the drive which I also find annoying.

I really like the interface of the Mymovies but it sure seems worthless if I still can't play a movie without a keyboard.

I just received a response to this from Cyberlink. Between the lines.
_________________________________________________________
In regard to your first issue we woukd like to inform you that CyberLink PowerDVD does not fully support the Media Centre.

If are interested in using a remote control with PowerDVD Ultra then you can purchase the CyberLink Romote control from our website.
_________________________________________________________

I didn't know they had a remote control. Anyway to get the IR codes for a MX700.

Again I'm sorry for not having my facts straight.

John

Hmmm...

Something doesn't seem right.

You mentioned that My Movies did detect PowerDVD Ultra and you did click "yes" to configure Media Center to work with PowerDVD Ultra. Once this is done, it should work.

Another thing that doesn't make sense is what happens when you insert an HD-DVD or Blue-ray DVD. Without My Movies having configured everything for PowerDVD, Vista Media Center should pop up a message stating there is no software installed to play HD-DVD/Blue-ray.

Once everything is configured, Media Center will know that software is installed (PowerDVD) and should launch it whenever you attempt to play a DVD that is HD-DVD or Blue-ray.

Finally, once PowerDVD is up and running it should support the Microsoft Media Center remote. It sounds like this isn't working on your system either and this has nothing to do with My Movies - PowerDVD should just work with the Media Center remote (mostly - see my other posts above for annoying "features").

Is your system running all Microsoft updates? I wonder if there might be something needed to enable HD-DVD/Blue-ray detection and Media Center remote control that isn't installed.

Other than that, my suggestion would be to post an inquiry over on the My Movies support forum. Hopefully Brian or someone else can help you get everything working properly.

Just in case you have not already seen it, there is also some good G35 info in this thread. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=987595)

-Dave

I had not, and thank you!

So is the G35 a good gaming graphics chip? So can I play something like WoW on it?

Does it support hardware acceleration for PDVD?

Does it play BD/HDDVD very well without too much CPU load?

So is the G35 a good gaming graphics chip? So can I play something like WoW on it?

Does it support hardware acceleration for PDVD?

Does it play BD/HDDVD very well without too much CPU load?

I would read the Intel G35 motherboards thread for details, but to answer quickly:

- no, it's not a good gaming chip
- don't know... you might play WoW though because that's a very low intensity game from what I understand... would have to try it out or have someone try it for you
- it only accelerates a few parts of the decode for AV1 and none of the decode for H.264 so therefore:
- you need a fast CPU to do BD/HDDVD (e.g. Quad 6600)

- you need a fast CPU to do BD/HDDVD (e.g. Quad 6600)

Oh, lame then.

Someday we'll get an HDMI graphics card that supports acceleration and full 8-channel audio.

Someday... someday...

You might have better luck posting in the G35 thread. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=938473)

Do you have the HDMI audio options available shown in the PDF file attached to this message? (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13005836#post13005836)

-Dave

I finally spent another day working on this and pretty much came to the same conclusion you did in your post. When connecting to my Onkyo 805, it detects 8 speakers, but through the HDMI audio configuration tests, it outputs to all speakers EXCEPT my subwoofer. Not sure why. I also noticed that the tests randomly skipped speakers. It never worked well at 24bit 192khz, but did better at 24bit 96khz (but not perfect).

Regardless, I was unable to get HDMI->AVR->LCD working without getting the message: Failed to enable HDCP....

I did confirm that the HDMI video out works fine when AnyDVD is installed. Until Intel gets their act together and finally puts out some drivers to work well with Vista, I'm going to use my 8600GTS. Just ordered the Xonar D2X to complete my system. I'm not wasting anymore time with the HDMI on this board....

Also, since this is a PowerDVD thread, I'll add cyberlink's response to my audio question (1 week to answer):

What is the best output mode for audio quality when playing a HD DVD such as Pans Labyrinth in 7.1?

Thank you for contacting CyberLink Online Support.

We understand your concern related with PowerDVD Ultra software.

In response to your concern, please note that the best audio mode option for 7.1 channel audio output is Dolby Digital.

pjavan,

If your having trouble with the Prelude. Maybe the link below will help. :)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=992869

When connecting to my Onkyo 805, it detects 8 speakers, but through the HDMI audio configuration tests, it outputs to all speakers EXCEPT my subwoofer. Not sure why. I also noticed that the tests randomly skipped speakers. It never worked well at 24bit 192khz, but did better at 24bit 96khz (but not perfect).This is probably the silent stream bug, which I asked about in this post. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13006764#post13006764) Try playing an MP3 in Media Player, then turn the volume down all the way in Media Player. This will create a silent stream, and you should hear sounds from all your speakers during the test.

The silent stream bug is probably more Onkyo's fault than Intel's. My 905 has a long delay when the audio stream switches. This has been discussed quite a bit in the Onkyo threads. The 805 probably has the same issue.

Regardless, I was unable to get HDMI->AVR->LCD working without getting the message: Failed to enable HDCP....
Yup, this is a known bug. For now, you need to use AnyDVD. Hopefully it will be fixed soon.

-Dave

I found a rather interesting issue with 3730. I use the PDVD dshow filters in Sage TV, and after installing the 3730 update I started having issues with playback of 720p broadcast HD. 1080i stuff is fine (display is 1080p), but content from the two 720p stations here started having issues with frequent stuttering and "stuck" frames. Pausing or skipping back a few seconds would usually clear it up for a while, but then it would happen again (several times during a 1-hour show).

Rolling back to 3516 solved the 720p problem. Unfortunately that leaves me unable to BD 1.1 discs. Guess I'm gonna have to see if I can figure out which files are the dshow filters and try running the 3516 dshow filters on a 3370 install.

I'm experiencing a multitude of problems with my new HTPC - I just purchased an HP s3330f [AMD x2-5400+, 2gb ram, 500gb hdd, Nvidia 8500GT, LG combo Blu-ray / HD DVD player] hooked up to a Vizio 50" plasma via hdmi output. It comes with vista home premium.

As for third-party software I have a licenced copy of powerdvd Ultra 7.3730 and am using mymovies plugin in vista MCE, along wiht a licenced copy of anydvd 6.3.1.5

I was able to backup a copy of casino royale to my hdd and it plays nicely through mymovies/vmce and through powerdvd stand alone.

I then tried to backup my copy of spiderman 3 [which from what i understand is BD 1.1] to my hdd and it backed up without any problems. The problem starts when i try to play it through VMCE using powerdvd. I am not able to hear anything - the video looks very prestine without any stuttering, but no audio at all. I've checked, double checked and triple checked the audio settings in powerdvd and the options are grayed out!

I then try to play the movie from the disc through PDVD alone and it's unwatchable - video is jerky and no sound.

I then tried to play it through nero showtime and it plays fine; except I can't get it to output dolby digital in English, only pro logic. I am able to hear the audio in DD if i select one of the other languages, unforutnately, i do not understand french, spanish or any of the 2 other languages!

Please help me find out what's wrong!?! Thanks.

Mike

Mike, spiderman 3 has only uncompressed audio, so unless you are using HDMI audio out you can't take advantage of it. There is an option in pdvd to downsample audio. This works for me off the disc, but the audio is pretty horrible. I coudn't get this to work from a ripped to hdd version though.

There is a link to that (for retail versions) but there isn't a 3730 update for the OEM yet. According to what I've read on this thread 3516 is currently the highest OEM version. 3:10 to Yuma or whatever is Profile 1.1 and it won't play on anything lower than 3730, so that is indeed your problem. So you have to wait, unfortunatley, to see if and when the update the OEM version.

I've never managed to update Power Dvd with any patch after 7.3, even 3516 succeeded only in uninstalling PowerDvd altogether.

I'm going to have another 10 rounds with my HTPC this weekend to see if I can get any patch working. I probably ought to just buy the full retail package to save the effort, but getting the same software twice on the offchance they did their job properly on their second attempt doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling.

How can I upscale standard DVD's in Power DVD Ultra? I want one software for all discs and backed up movies. Want everything outputted in 1080p/24through HDMI to Pioneer plasma.

You need something like ffdshow and media player classic for true upscaling...

You need something like ffdshow and media player classic for true upscaling...
Or a NVIDIA 8xxx card with full Purevideo HD support. These cards can upscale in hardware quite well. The results are almost as good as ffdshow in Theatertek.

Interesting you say that. Firstly, how the hell did you get HD DVE to work!!?? Mine gets stuck at the menu. I ended up using the AV709 disc available here on the forum, and calibrated the brightness and contrast. But some movies look good and others look too dark. One that comes to mind is "Night at the Museum" That is way too dark IMO. Not sure what the encoding is though. All the Pirate movies look good though....

Well i have ripped it to hd and play it without menus from the"open media files" option of power dvd(doesn't play from folder)...
I have the manual of HD DVE and select the patterns i want to use,i add them to power dvd and play them...:)

But i am curious ....Other people don't have this issues?:confused:

Especially brightness/contrast setting,in my opinion,is very important setting in order to have a right PQ playback...

Or a NVIDIA 8xxx card with full Purevideo HD support. These cards can upscale in hardware quite well. The results are almost as good as ffdshow in Theatertek.

It still makes DVDs look like crap on my 1080p 37" though... on my 24" Dell DVD looks not too bad but on this 37" HD/BD just blows DVD away.

I've updated to the latest 3730 and while playing Sunshine I don't get the coloured buttons to access the PiP.

Any Ideas

TIA

Or a NVIDIA 8xxx card with full Purevideo HD support. These cards can upscale in hardware quite well. The results are almost as good as ffdshow in Theatertek.

Do ATI Avivo HD with UVD+ have any upscaling techniques?

I've updated to the latest 3730 and while playing Sunshine I don't get the coloured buttons to access the PiP.

Any Ideas

TIA
I found them I was using a custom skin and the buttons didn't appear but when I changed to the default there they were.

However they don't do anything & PIP option is grayed out, I'm in Australia and the disc box makes no mention of the PiP features so perhaps these were not included on the Australian disc?

Do the 7.3 versions support both BR and HDDVD? I have a couple of ripped movies that I made into iso files, and I can only play the BR mounted iso. When I try the HDDVD iso I only get a "not supported media" warning.

I have no problems playing HDDVD movies when I choose the mediafiles directly.

Mike, spiderman 3 has only uncompressed audio, so unless you are using HDMI audio out you can't take advantage of it. There is an option in pdvd to downsample audio. This works for me off the disc, but the audio is pretty horrible. I coudn't get this to work from a ripped to hdd version though.

That doesn't explain why I can get Dolby Digital in spanish and french but not in english ...

You're positive about this information? I was able to find the 64bit SP1 RTM patch which has the same has listed below, so I was considering patching my copy of Ultimate 64bit tonight if this is the same release we will see next month.

Obviously not going to tell you where to look, and you do so at your own risk, but the files you want are Windows6.0-KB936330-x64.exe (if you're running 64bit) or Windows6.0-KB936330-x86.exe (32bit). Once you have those files, download a MD5 hash checker (search google) and run it against them.

Here are the MD5 hashes from both x86 and x64 RTM SP1 that the editors at ZDNET received directly from Microsoft.

32-bit (434MB): d597866e93bc8f80ecca234c4e9ce5a2
64-bit (726MB): 983308426e8ee7649f53b41f4e5c42d4

Link with the info is here, for those who'd rather see for themselves - http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12354-0.htm...amp;start=-9978 (http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12354-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=44163&messageID=816195&start=-9978)

If the hash your file has matches the corresponding one above, you have a legit RTM SP1 file.

Mods - if this is something you don't want here, please feel free to delete it.

You're positive about this information? I was able to find the 64bit SP1 RTM patch which has the same has listed below, so I was considering patching my copy of Ultimate 64bit tonight if this is the same release we will see next month.

Define positive? The information comes from what I consider a reliable source (one of the editors at ZDNET). MD5 hashes have been used for ages to verify that the contents of a file hasn't been changed. I was confident enough that I installed the copies I had on both my x64 and x86 machines, and haven't had any problems yet.

Having said that, I can't say whether or not Microsoft will support you if you have any issues, since SP1 still hasn't been "officially" released to the public.

There is a link to that (for retail versions) but there isn't a 3730 update for the OEM yet. According to what I've read on this thread 3516 is currently the highest OEM version. 3:10 to Yuma or whatever is Profile 1.1 and it won't play on anything lower than 3730, so that is indeed your problem. So you have to wait, unfortunatley, to see if and when the update the OEM version.The reason I contacted tech support about my can't-play-Yuma problem is because I heard in some other posting that sometimes Cyberlink gives out 3730 to those who complain. Unfortunately I'm not one of those lucky ones. They initally told me that downloading 3516 would fix my problem. I told them I already had 3516. They finally replied again and get this... they asked me to send them the log file from the PDVD Advisor app (the Cyberlink app that tests system components to see if the hardware is HD disc ready); to send them the text file results from MS DXdiag; to tell them the brand and model of my video card and monitor. No mention of needing 3730! Well, I jumped through their silly hoops and sent them the info. Lets see what happens...

I am still having my problem with trying to use a remote from Media Center to open PDDVD through Mymovies and play. I appreciate the post HTSlider but I don't know what to take from it since I'm using XP and media center 2005. I've played and played with it and at one point I thought it might work but even though PDDVD came up full screen it didn't play. PDDVD is trying to play something from a hard drive and not pointing to the DVD drive. If using the keyboard I change the setting to the DVD drive it will open and play the movie. Again I'm using the keyboard and that's bad.

I asked PDDVD about getting the codes for my MX-700 and honestly it seems like I'm talking to aliens with some of the lame answers I've gotten from them. They seem to go out of their way not to be helpful. Here's just a part of the post I got back from them. See if you can find an answer to my question. Between the lines is from PDDVD tech.
____________________________________________________________ __________
In regard to your first issue we woukd like to inform you that we do not suggest to use any other remote control with the PowerDVD software. We suggest our customers to use CyberLink Remote control only.

Media Center Remote control or any other remote control may or may not work with PowerDVD. You can try to use another remote control at your end but we do not suggest to use any other remote control with CyberLink software
____________________________________________________________ __________

The reason I contacted tech support about my can't-play-Yuma problem is because I heard in some other posting that sometimes Cyberlink gives out 3730 to those who complain. Unfortunately I'm not one of those lucky ones. They initally told me that downloading 3516 would fix my problem. I told them I already had 3516. They finally replied again and get this... they asked me to send them the log file from the PDVD Advisor app (the Cyberlink app that tests system components to see if the hardware is HD disc ready); to send them the text file results from MS DXdiag; to tell them the brand and model of my video card and monitor. No mention of needing 3730! Well, I jumped through their silly hoops and sent them the info. Lets see what happens...

Unfortunate. I e-mailed them and said it wouldn't play. They responded with a link to version 3730 as the fix....

Even with the fix, it still won't allow you to use your mouse to click play or even click the play button. The only thing that worked is hitting ENTER from my keyboard.

Familiar with MD5 hashes... :)
My bro in law is going to see if the RTM SP1 is out on MSDN since his company is an MS Gold Partner... if it is, I'll have him d/l it and I'll just do a quick binary comparison and see if they're the same, or heck, generate and MD5 on the msdn one and see if it matches. :)
I guess I have nothing to lose by installing it since I just formatted my machine two nights ago anyway. It's still just barebones OS and drivers, no apps or games on it yet.

Define positive? The information comes from what I consider a reliable source (one of the editors at ZDNET). MD5 hashes have been used for ages to verify that the contents of a file hasn't been changed. I was confident enough that I installed the copies I had on both my x64 and x86 machines, and haven't had any problems yet.

Having said that, I can't say whether or not Microsoft will support you if you have any issues, since SP1 still hasn't been "officially" released to the public.

That doesn't explain why I can get Dolby Digital in spanish and french but not in english ...

Without looking at it, it is possible that there is a DD sound track for those languages, but only the uncompressed version for english.

I just looked at the back cover and it shows english True HD 5.1 and PCM 5.1. No other languages are available on the Australian version by the looks. Other regions maybe different. Where is yours from?

Got my response from cyberlink about my ATI 3850HD/XP/PowerDVD OEM situation (just crashes and disappears when I hit play, after about 2 seconds of accessing the LG dual format drive)

Dear Thomas,

Thank you for contacting CyberLink Online Customer Support.

In regard to your issue, we have thoroughly analyzed the sent Dxdiag file and found that your Graphic Card drivers do not support COPP so kindly contact ATI tech support to fix this issue.

Updated to Catalyst 8.2 today, same problem... :(

Or a NVIDIA 8xxx card with full Purevideo HD support. These cards can upscale in hardware quite well. The results are almost as good as ffdshow in Theatertek.


How do you set this up?

Darren

I reinstalled Vista x64 and then installed the latest retail build of PowerDVD Ultra. Now all I get when I try and play "Resident Evil 3" (Blu-ray) is a green screen.

Video card is an ATI 2600 XT with the latest Catalyst drivers.

Can anyone suggest a fix?

How do you set this up?

Darren


Just set "flat panel scaling" to NVIDIA.

Is 3730 the latest build for the retail version? No patches or updates to it over the last 2 weeks?

I have a quick question regarding the latest build of PowerDVD Ultra.
Does it still play HD-DVD and Blu-Ray movies that have been backed up to a hard drive with AnyDVD HD?

Thanks in advance!

I'm one of several people who have commented on here recently on PowerDVD's inability to play the new Across The Universe BluRay disc. Does anyone know whether or not WinDVD can play it successfully?

I've been looking for a thread comparable to this one that covers WinDVD, but I haven't been able to find one. So I thought I'd ask here in case anyone knows.

A pointer to a good thread on WinDVD would be helpful as well.

Can't be a video card limitation as I've got a 3850 and have no probs with BD/HD movies using PowerDVD. I've used Cats 7.12-8.2, all have been ok so far.

Got my response from cyberlink about my ATI 3850HD/XP/PowerDVD OEM situation (just crashes and disappears when I hit play, after about 2 seconds of accessing the LG dual format drive)



Updated to Catalyst 8.2 today, same problem... :(

I am still having my problem with trying to use a remote from Media Center to open PDDVD through Mymovies and play. I appreciate the post HTSlider but I don't know what to take from it since I'm using XP and media center 2005. I've played and played with it and at one point I thought it might work but even though PDDVD came up full screen it didn't play. PDDVD is trying to play something from a hard drive and not pointing to the DVD drive. If using the keyboard I change the setting to the DVD drive it will open and play the movie. Again I'm using the keyboard and that's bad.

Although it is the same My Movie's binary that runs on MCE2005 and Vista, there are obviously differences in the OS that likely change the way everything works.

I really can't help any more than I have already tried. You are going to have to post a request for help over on the My Movies forums. They are very good at replying and helping.

You also didn't replay to my question regarding having Windows Updates installed. When MCE2005 was released HD-DVD and Blue-ray wasn't even defined in spec. and MCE2005 definitely wouldn't even know what they are. Most likely the only hope for MCE2005 to recognise what HD-DVD and Blue-ray are is through some sort of Windows Update.

With Vista, Media Center recognises HD-DVD and Blue-ray DVDs and if a program has been registered to support them, it will be launched when one of these is detected and Media Center attempts to play a DVD. My Movies performs the registration process during the configuration step that you've already been through.

Good luck over on the My Movies forums. They really are good at responding so it is your best bet.

Can't be a video card limitation as I've got a 3850 and have no probs with BD/HD movies using PowerDVD. I've used Cats 7.12-8.2, all have been ok so far.

I'm running Vista Home Premium, an ATI HD 2600XT, and PowerDVD Ultra OEM 3514 (LG combination drive) and we can also play all sorts of new HD/BD movies without (serious) issues (I haven't tried any BD 1.1 though - or whatever the proper name for the new format is).

I did have a strange issue with Catalyst 8.1 though. Some BD movies, instead of playing properly, would leave you with a green screen instead of the movie. Catalyst 7.10 and 8.2 definitely do not have this issue with the same movies.

One issue that I do have with 8.2 (that may or may not have been present with previous drivers) is a strange "glowing" red or blue with portions of the video that should be very dark. It looks a little bit like excessive noise reduction ghosting, but it only occurs on extremely dark scenes and only on the darkest objects. Basically instead of the objects being the darkest, they end up "glowing" with a dull red or blue hue. My wife doesn't notice the issue so it isn't extreme, but anyone picky would definitely notice it. It also doesn't seem to occur with all movies, but the latest Harry Potter in BD it is probably the worst I've seen this issue yet.

Has anyone else seen this? Is it only with certain Catalyst drivers or is the issue PowerDVD?

Just set "flat panel scaling" to NVIDIA.

Is this present in the OEM version of PDVD?

I have a quick question regarding the latest build of PowerDVD Ultra.
Does it still play HD-DVD and Blu-Ray movies that have been backed up to a hard drive with AnyDVD HD?

Thanks in advance!

no, you need 3319a or try making ISOs of the folders, not tried it myself so don't ask :)

Is this present in the OEM version of PDVD?


It's in the NVIDIA control panel, not PDVD.

Thanks for the clarification :)

no, you need 3319a or try making ISOs of the folders, not tried it myself so don't ask :)

to play straight from backed up files 3319a is the last version with that feature enabled.

I haven't been able to get ISOs to work in 3730, but maybe that's just me.

I haven't been able to get ISOs to work in 3730, but maybe that's just me.

Following tips I found in this thread, I'm able to play ISO's with 3730 as long as I create them with ImgBurn in "Read" mode (not Build!) and mount the ISO's with Daemon Tools. No other tools seemed to do it the way that PDVD wants. (UDF 2.5?)