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Just letting you know, these hashes do not correspond to RTM of Vista SP1. MS released the RTM to MSDN subscribers, and luckily my bro in law is a subscriber, so he d/led it for me. Tha hash for the 64bit SP1 on MSDN is as follows:
eeafd59069b0dbb489f7b9ca63dbc678
I'm running it right now... seems alright, slower bootup, but faster response within the OS it seems, but only been working with it for about 15 mins now.
Obviously not going to tell you where to look, and you do so at your own risk, but the files you want are Windows6.0-KB936330-x64.exe (if you're running 64bit) or Windows6.0-KB936330-x86.exe (32bit). Once you have those files, download a MD5 hash checker (search google) and run it against them.
Here are the MD5 hashes from both x86 and x64 RTM SP1 that the editors at ZDNET received directly from Microsoft.
32-bit (434MB): d597866e93bc8f80ecca234c4e9ce5a2
64-bit (726MB): 983308426e8ee7649f53b41f4e5c42d4
Link with the info is here, for those who'd rather see for themselves - http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12354-0.htm...amp;start=-9978 (http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12354-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=44163&messageID=816195&start=-9978)
If the hash your file has matches the corresponding one above, you have a legit RTM SP1 file.
Mods - if this is something you don't want here, please feel free to delete it.
Has anyone figured out how to get cyberlink to launch directly from Media Center when you hit play DVD?
AbMagFab
02-16-08, 12:36 AM
Okay, I'm going nuts.
How do I get the MCE remote to trigger keystrokes, like "Ctrl-X" or "B", when I hit a single key on the MCE remote?
Anyone have a primer they can point me to? I tried HIP, but it seems like a mess, and it screws up the few things that currently work with the MCE remote.
Help!
yamahaSHO
02-16-08, 12:42 AM
It's in the NVIDIA control panel, not PDVD.
Maybe I'm dumb and/or blind, but I can't find it. I just installed the lastest Forceware too.
Maybe I'm dumb and/or blind, but I can't find it. I just installed the lastest Forceware too.
you cant find the control panel or were to check the scaling, sometimes the driver does not include the right control panel i use this,http://www.nvidia.com/object/ntune_5.05.54.00.html
AbMagFab
02-16-08, 01:44 AM
I thought I saw this asked before, but couldn't find it...
I have a BD with onlu TrueHD 5.1 on it. When I play it (retail 3730), it says TrueHD 2.0 (and I cycled through the audio tracks).
I'm playing over SPDIF, so why isn't it sending 5.1 over? And the option to SPDIF mix only lets me select DTS, and it doesn't actually change anything.
Thanks in advance for any advice!
-Mark
Cyberlink accept this is a bug which they promise will be resolved in a future patch. No firm release date unfortunately.
At the moment the only way to play discs with only a TrueHD track in 5.1 over s/pdif is if your audio codec supports Dolby Digital Live and/or DTS Connect. Then you can get PowerDVD to output 6-channel PCM and leave it to your audio codec to encodeinto DD/DTS.
Cyberlink accept this is a bug which they promise will be resolved in a future patch. No firm release date unfortunately.
At the moment the only way to play discs with only a TrueHD track in 5.1 over s/pdif is if your audio codec supports Dolby Digital Live and/or DTS Connect. Then you can get PowerDVD to output 6-channel PCM and leave it to your audio codec to encodeinto DD/DTS.
Or if you have a X-Plosion or X-Merdian audio card that does real time encoding for DTS Connect or Dolby Digital Live.
However it sounds much better using analog outs and no re-encoding, also TrueHD 5.1 will not display as TrueHD 5.1 it will instead display as MLP 5.1
ballenjr
02-16-08, 08:34 AM
Cyberlink accept this is a bug which they promise will be resolved in a future patch. No firm release date unfortunately.
At the moment the only way to play discs with only a TrueHD track in 5.1 over s/pdif is if your audio codec supports Dolby Digital Live and/or DTS Connect. Then you can get PowerDVD to output 6-channel PCM and leave it to your audio codec to encodeinto DD/DTS.
Actually there is another option if you're playing back movies from your hard drive.
Use the tool TSremux (search Doom9). Basically what this tool does is make a movie only backup of your disc (no menus, no trailers).
In TSremux's options you can choose to convert any tru-hd track to an AC3 (Dolby Digital) track.
The tool keeps the Blu-ray original file structure (must select this option). Therefore you don't lose any video quality when creating your 'remux'.
Did this with Spidey3 and Across the Universe. Now when playing these my receiver indicates it is decoding a "Dolby D" track. Sound is great.
MikeZ06
02-16-08, 09:04 AM
I just purchased drive and having a hard time getting certain movies to play. If i bought the retail version of PD do I need to uninstall the OEM version first or just install over it? Has anyone also had any luck getting customer service to upgrade you free if you email them with issues?
Thanks
Am thinking about getting the new AMD Quad Core processors has anyone had any problems with playback? and what are the cpu usage like.
I just purchased drive and having a hard time getting certain movies to play. If i bought the retail version of PD do I need to uninstall the OEM version first or just install over it? Has anyone also had any luck getting customer service to upgrade you free if you email them with issues?
Thanks
I opened a case with cyberlink and got a patch 'CyberLink.3516_PF2_DVD071122-01.exe'.
It was no help for me with another problem (green display).
AbMagFab
02-16-08, 07:18 PM
So the Simpsons BD isn't working again! Since I upgraded to 3730, that's the only disc that won't load.
I get the "Unsupported Format" error.
I reripping with AnyDVD 6.3.1.5, and ImgBurn 2.4.0.0. I have nothing in AnyDVD except to remove encryption. I load it on a separate machine that isn't running AnyDVD. I tested the same ISO with an older version of PDVD, and it works fine.
Any thoughts on this? Anyone got Simpsons BD ISO working with 3730?
Rathbone
02-16-08, 08:07 PM
The lastest PowerDVD versions refuse to play BD+ titles without AACS encryption. Disable AnyDVD and play from disc or use an older version like 3319a.
AbMagFab
02-16-08, 08:24 PM
The lastest PowerDVD versions refuse to play BD+ titles without AACS encryption. Disable AnyDVD and play from disc or use an older version like 3319a.
Seriously? That's messed up. Maybe AnyDVD can make it look like there is AACS encryoption.
Is there any way to rip a BD to an ISO and keep the AACS encryption on it? I thought that was supposed to be a feature of BD, that you could copy one or two times for person use? ImgBurn tells me it can't rip unless I have AnyDVD running.
And by the way, this is a dumb limitation - if I need to put in the disc, I'll put it into a dedicated player. The only reason to use PDVD is because I want to rip to my computer for my library.
Simpsons BD works fine for me on the latest build of powerDVD with AnyDVD switched OFF.
AbMagFab
02-16-08, 08:48 PM
Simpsons BD works fine for me on the latest build of powerDVD with AnyDVD switched OFF.
Latewst version of OEM or retail? What version specifically are you using?
Retail version 3730 worked fine in 3516 aswell.
AbMagFab
02-16-08, 08:53 PM
Retail version 3730 worked fine in 3516 aswell.
Can you be specific how you ripped it? According to the above, it will only work when played in the drive, not ripped.
Sorry if i confused you. Am watching it direct from the disc.
Seriously? That's messed up. Maybe AnyDVD can make it look like there is AACS encryoption.
Is there any way to rip a BD to an ISO and keep the AACS encryption on it? I thought that was supposed to be a feature of BD, that you could copy one or two times for person use? ImgBurn tells me it can't rip unless I have AnyDVD running.
And by the way, this is a dumb limitation - if I need to put in the disc, I'll put it into a dedicated player. The only reason to use PDVD is because I want to rip to my computer for my library.
what version of image burn do you use because i can make a image in read mode WITHOUT anydvd running and the copy will still have the encryption on it
AbMagFab
02-16-08, 09:18 PM
what version of image burn do you use because i can make a image in read mode WITHOUT anydvd running and the copy will still have the encryption on it
2.4.0.0, you?
Look at this, in the changelog for ImgBurn 2.4.0.0:
Added: Message saying 'Sorry, ImgBurn cannot copy protected discs.' if the user inserts a CSS/CPPM protected DVD or AACS protected HD DVD/Blu-ray disc - the 'Read' button also remains disabled so they can't click it.
Sheesh... Is no one safe from the damned DRM crap? This is rediculous, and I'm shocked that ImgBurn would crumble to the DRM forces...
Anyone know a way around this, or must I stay with ImgBurn 2.3.2.0?
I am sure some you here will be interested in this:
PowerDVD downsamples some (maybe all!) U-Control discs to SD!! (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=13678)
BigWorm2005GT
02-16-08, 10:11 PM
I opened a case with cyberlink and got a patch 'CyberLink.3516_PF2_DVD071122-01.exe'.
It was no help for me with another problem (green display).
@ SugoE,
Was your issue playing BD Profile 1.1 discs? If so, did that patch help?
BW
jimwhite
02-16-08, 10:16 PM
somehow there should be two threads.... people simply playing from a physical optical disk, and those trying to beat the system with playing rips...
:cool:
2.4.0.0, you?
Look at this, in the changelog for ImgBurn 2.4.0.0:
Sheesh... Is no one safe from the damned DRM crap? This is rediculous, and I'm shocked that ImgBurn would crumble to the DRM forces...
Anyone know a way around this, or must I stay with ImgBurn 2.3.2.0?
image burn 2.3.2 maybe something was changed in the new version. the last disk i copied with the DRM intact was "transformers" its been awhile ago i tried coping without anydvd running so i decided to give it another shot, so right now as i type this, image burn is coping my copy of the day after tommorow, Blu Ray in " READ" mode which is also BD+ . it seems to be working just fine
image burn 2.3.2 maybe something was changed in the new version. the last disk i copied with the DRM intact was "transformers" its been awhile ago i tried coping without anydvd running so i decided to give it another shot, so right now as i type this, image burn is coping my copy of the day after tommorow, Blu Ray in " READ" mode which is also BD+ . it seems to be working just fine
i can confirm that it works, i just mounted the iso and it played back perfectly its working with both versions of image burn at least for me it is
:confused:I just installed the LG GGW-H20L into my HTPC of course the first movie I purchased was Live free or Die Hard, groan that did not play, then I tried a HD-DVD movie that played no problem.
I then tried the Brave One on blu-ray it played no problem. Any way I was looking forward to We Own the Night, the playback sound and picture are choppy to painfull for me to watch. My version of Powerdvd Ultra is 3516; the support is quick but useless. Anybody having problems with this movie?
Any help is greatly appreciated
Thanks JD :mad:
My video card is EVGA 7950GT
duo core 6600 @ 2.4 Windows XP
dvi to hdmi connection
HP MD6580n TV
:confused:I just installed the LG GGW-H20L into my HTPC of course the first movie I purchased was Live free or Die Hard, groan that did not play, then I tried a HD-DVD movie that played no problem.
I then tried the Brave One on blu-ray it played no problem. Any way I was looking forward to We Own the Night, the playback sound and picture are choppy to painfull for me to watch. My version of Powerdvd Ultra is 3516; the support is quick but useless. Anybody having problems with this movie?
Any help is greatly appreciated
Thanks JD :mad:
My video card is EVGA 7950GT
duo core 6600 @ 2.4 Windows XP
dvi to hdmi connection
HP MD6580n TV
i have never really got hd dvd and blu ray to play back correctly in XP but in Vista it works perfectly
Hi all,
I have managed to enable hardware acceleration in Powerdvd using a radeon hd2600 pro agp. But I still have 100% cpu, and stuttering of audio and video, with or without hardware acceleration enabled.
I am racking my brain trying to think what it can be but I dont have a clue.
Could it be an audio driver? My motherboard is an asus a8v deluxe. I have an athlon 4200 x2.
Thank you,
Aesculus
02-17-08, 04:10 AM
Tonight my PDVD OEM 7.3 with latest updates started playing back HD DVD with DD+ soundtracks with lots of feedback and fluttering in the sound. This is via SPDIF 16 bit/44.1 over coax. Same disks I could play a few weeks ago don't play now. Video is fine.
DD and PCM sound fine. I notice that the SPDIF volume bar chart is pegged full on when this flutter occurs.
Any thoughts as to what might have caused this sudden problem?
I am using a ASUS PK5 VM HDMI mobo with the built in audio feature to a Denon preamp.
cpasemann
02-17-08, 05:38 AM
So i got a Problem with Powerdvd and the following Configuration
My Configuration:
Shuttle SD39P2(Intel975X + C2D E6300 + 2Gig DDR2-667)
Geforce 8600GT 256MB (PCI-Express Gigabyte) Driver Forceware 169.21
PowerDVD 7.3.3319a(The last one i know that plays Blurays and HDDVDs from Harddrive)
Output-Device is a Beamer Optoma EP1690 (its native Resolution over DVI-Input is 1280x720 and over VGA 1280x768) It is Connected Via DVI to my Graphicscard
OS is WinXP pro (with all the latest SPs and Patches)
If i set my Resolution to 1280x720 50hz and play a ripped Bluray or HDDVD-title from Harddrive (via the Powerdvd function "Open movie file on hard disk drive") everythings just runs smooth with Hardwaredecoding. It doesnt matter whether its h.264 , VC1 or Mpeg2-content the CPU utilization is aprox. at 5-15 percent even on titles like "Pirates of the Careebean II", "Casino Royale","Transformers" or "Die Hard 4".(All Titles areEuropean Releases so they all have 50frames per second and thats the Reason why i set the Refresh-rate of my Beamer to 50hz). So Playing "Transormers" US-HDDVD-release at 60hz also runs smooth as it shoud.
So far so good i was happy. Now i changed my Graphic Card for other Reasons (Watching HDTV from HDTV-Channels wasnt perfect but thats another story). Now i got the Exact Configuration like above only the Graphiccard is now a Ati HD2600 512MB(Saphire passive).
If i want to play all the Titles mentioned above in 1280x720 50hz i get the Sound but a black Screen (with sometimes for a sample of a second a flicker of a Picture) i tried all titles (15) but none of them gave me a video. So the funny thing is, if i set my refreshrate to 60hz everything runs fine(except that a Video at 50frames per second is unacceptable for me at 60hz refreshrate due to stuttering at long horizontal or vertical pan shots). So now the only Title i can play perfectly is the US-Release of Transformers at 60hz.
My Question is: Why deos 50hz refre work on the same configuration with a Geforce 8600GT but wont with a Ati HD2600pro?
And why does it work with an Ati HD2600 at 60hz but wont at 50hz refreshrate?
Since i got no output-device that can handel 50hz i cant test another one.
I also thought of HDCP, since the ati HD2600 can handle HDCP output but the 8600 wont. But why da heck does the video work at 60hz, since 720p60frames is a standard HDresolution also with can be HDCP-scrambled.
I hope all you Experts out there can Help me a little bit.
rdunnill
02-17-08, 05:46 AM
i have never really got hd dvd and blu ray to play back correctly in XP but in Vista it works perfectlyI once had them working fine in XP, but then I tried to play Resident Evil 3. That title is cursed!
PowerDVD now displays a green screen with Blu-ray content. Arcsoft will play content, but it is choppy even though CPU usage is under 50%.
Can anyone suggest anything? Or do I have to replace my mainboard, CPU and RAM? I have invested countless hours trying to get my ruined PowerDVD to work again.
Edit: I am not running AnyDVD or anything else that should interfere with normal operation.
For those that want to have both (3319a-3730) versions in one rig and be able to switch from one to the other realy easy and to have BOTH of them in their original form (not mule or something) here it is:
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I canīt get his to work, my 3319vers becomes 3730 no matter what I do, what am I doing wrong
Edit: Got it to work now, the problem was that I am on a Swedish xp and there is no c:\program files, just c:\program so I edit the swither so now itīs work but not when I use the skins so I have to watch the vers manually
AbMagFab
02-17-08, 08:46 AM
image burn 2.3.2 maybe something was changed in the new version. the last disk i copied with the DRM intact was "transformers" its been awhile ago i tried coping without anydvd running so i decided to give it another shot, so right now as i type this, image burn is coping my copy of the day after tommorow, Blu Ray in " READ" mode which is also BD+ . it seems to be working just fine
So here are my results:
- ImgBurn (any version) with PDVD pre-3730 let's me play BD+ discs, when I rip them with AnyDVD and remove encryption
- Old ImgBurn let's me rip BD+ discs without AnyDVD, however any pre-3730 version of PDVD won't play them, saying it needs an update to play them, and then hanging. PDVD will play them, pre-3730, if I remove encryption.
- PDVD 3730 won't play ripped BD+ discs when you remove the encryption
- PDVD 3730 won't play ripped BD+ when you keep the encryption (with old ImgBurn), saying "A disc with an unsupported format..."
So - I'm left with running an old PDVD (pre-3730) and ripping BD+ to remove the encryption.
Has anyone successfully ripped a BD+ disc, with or without encryption, and played it with PDVD 3730? Specifically The Simpsons Movie?
I can't help but feel like I'm shortly not going to be able to play anything, unless AnyDVD can remove the BD+ limitations.
(I should note that the only BD+ disc I have is The Simpsons Movie, I think, and it's the only one I'm having problems with.)
3730 will not play ripped BD+ discs, full stop. If you want to play them now and cannot just regress to an earlier version you need to use the tips/tools to install 2 versions of PDVD.
But the Slysoft team have suggested that first release of BD+ elimination is close to being ready. It's really just a question of waiting and seeing.
spanner101
02-17-08, 12:35 PM
I once had them working fine in XP, but then I tried to play Resident Evil 3. That title is cursed!
PowerDVD now displays a green screen with Blu-ray content. Arcsoft will play content, but it is choppy even though CPU usage is under 50%.
Can anyone suggest anything? Or do I have to replace my mainboard, CPU and RAM? I have invested countless hours trying to get my ruined PowerDVD to work again.
Edit: I am not running AnyDVD or anything else that should interfere with normal operation.
Although my previous posts might give the impression I know bugger all about PCs, I am in fact a software engineer (more missile than PCs, that's my excuse). We constantly have muppets blaming every problem on earth on "the software", doesn't matter if its an unplugged cable, a bent pin, a subsystem turned off, heat problems, its always "the software needs fixing". After several years of this I have learnt that in my job theres is about a 90% probability that its the Hardware. Its almost always the hardware. If in doubt its the f***ing HARDWARE.
However....over the last few weeks I have been attempting to put together an HTPC, and after a seemingly endless supply of grief, hassle, errors, crashes, etc. I have determined one thing about HTPCs
Its the f***ing SOFTWARE. Unless you know your existing PC is lacking something specific in terms of functionality or performance, don't waste more money on Hardware that won't be used by the software, compatible with the software, or will sit there yawning whilst it does its job in a nanosecond, then the dodgy, half-written, undertested, overhyped, poorly-driven, generally incompatible, software goes and buggers it up.
If your cpu is at 50% I imagine you've got a perfectly tolerable CPU, and its probably on a reasonable mboard. My version of arcsoft never appeared to use my gfx card, so struggled with cpu usage, yours sounds ok. Dunno about your gfx, but I would guess that floggin out on whizzbang hardware is only going to leave you out of pocket and even more disappointed.
I could spend more money on my kit and hope the extra megahertz can make up for some of the bumbling code, but it'd cost more, it's hard to say what (if any) hardware would do the job, make more noise, and it too could be bypassed by the next patch of the sw.
I'm assuming that I'm just going to have to wait for some muppet to write some code that actually works. Don't bother on a hardware upgrade unless you know what it will do better, its not worth the cost and hassle on an (unlikely) off-chance.
honeybrain
02-17-08, 01:12 PM
MCE Integrated with MyMovies and PDVD 3730
All my BD ripped through AnyDVD, when i click on watch from MCE it plays perfect. No HD HDD Playback.
List
300
MI
MI II
MI III
CASINO ROYALE
OCEANS 13
RATATOUILLE ( NO AUDIO, not sure about the reason), Will give it a shot one more time
SHOOTER
TERMINATOR_3
STEALTH
REIGN OVER ME
Vern Dias
02-17-08, 01:38 PM
PowerDVD Ultra DOES work for playing both BD and HD DVD discs directly from the disc. I have two systems installed that do this flawlessly. Note that every once in a while the BD camp tries something new for encoding a disc. "Across the Universe" is an example of this. Then you have to wait for Cyberlink to figure out what was done differently and release a patch to enable the disk to be played.
The keys:
A good 500w+ power supply
High quality DDR2 RAM
XP SP2 from a clean install on an Intel Core2 Duo Mobo (Asus P5B and P5KC)
Update for Windows XP (KB920872)
Mobo driver install
LG Combo BD HD DVD drive
ATI HD3780 video card w/ Catalyst 7.12 drivers
MS .Net Framework 2.0 SP1
Direct HDMI Connection to an HDMI compliant display.
8 channel sound card using analog out
PowerDVD Ultra with Patch level 3730
YXY, if you need AR control
Powerstrip, if you need custom video timings.
NO Other Software, codec packs, etc
Use the Cyberlink Advisor to verify all green.
Enjoy.
Vern
AbMagFab
02-17-08, 01:56 PM
PowerDVD Ultra DOES work for playing both BD and HD DVD discs directly from the disc. I have two systems installed that do this flawlessly. Note that every once in a while the BD camp tries something new for encoding a disc. "Across the Universe" is an example of this. Then you have to wait for Cyberlink to figure out what was done differently and release a patch to enable the disk to be played.
The keys:
A good 500w+ power supply
High quality DDR2 RAM
XP SP2 from a clean install on an Intel Core2 Duo Mobo (Asus P5B and P5KC)
Update for Windows XP (KB920872)
Mobo driver install
LG Combo BD HD DVD drive
ATI HD3780 video card w/ Catalyst 7.12 drivers
MS .Net Framework 2.0 SP1
Direct HDMI Connection to an HDMI compliant display.
8 channel sound card using analog out
PowerDVD Ultra with Patch level 3730
YXY, if you need AR control
Powerstrip, if you need custom video timings.
NO Other Software, codec packs, etc
Use the Cyberlink Advisor to verify all green.
Enjoy.
Vern
Wow, talk about making blanket statements with one data point.
First, that is just one example of hardware that works. There are tons, and it's better to go look in the HTPC thread for what you should use for a HTPC.
Second, there are many BD discs that don't work when ripped to the HD, and they don't work for two main reasons:
1) PDVD can't play them yet
2) PDVD *won't* play them (mainly this is a BD+ issue, and PDVD won't play *any* BD+ discs when you rip them, no matter how you rip them)
In addition, there are specific issues with how you rip, and what version of PDVD you use. Rather than restate all that here, read the thread for more details.
Aesculus
02-17-08, 03:05 PM
Tonight my PDVD OEM 7.3 with latest updates started playing back HD DVD with DD+ soundtracks with lots of feedback and fluttering in the sound. This is via SPDIF 16 bit/44.1 over coax. Same disks I could play a few weeks ago don't play now. Video is fine.
DD and PCM sound fine. I notice that the SPDIF volume bar chart is pegged full on when this flutter occurs.
Any thoughts as to what might have caused this sudden problem?
I am using a ASUS PK5 VM HDMI mobo with the built in audio feature to a Denon preamp.
I unistalled PDVD and then reinstalled allowing it to install the patch. Tried it out and the HD-DVD disks work great. I did not install the update to 3516 (I had applied that before to get Spidey3 to play).
Then I updated to 3516 and the problems returned. Now back at just the patch level.
Second, there are many BD discs that don't work when ripped to the HD, and they don't work for two main reasons:
1) PDVD can't play them yet
2) PDVD *won't* play them (mainly this is a BD+ issue, and PDVD won't play *any* BD+ discs when you rip them, no matter how you rip them)
In addition, there are specific issues with how you rip, and what version of PDVD you use. Rather than restate all that here, read the thread for more details.
Vern specifically mentioned playing "directly from the disc" meaning from the original media, not ripped to your hard drive.
AbMagFab
02-17-08, 05:06 PM
Vern specifically mentioned playing "directly from the disc" meaning from the original media, not ripped to your hard drive.
Huh, well, "directly from the disc" means directly from the hard drive to me. Given that the bulk of the posts here are about playing "directly from the (hard) disk", and he was responding to a long chain of issues relating to playing from the hard drive, it's not crazy to think he meant that.
And his implication on the hardware is just silly. Especially the XP part.
Huh, well, "directly from the disc" means directly from the hard drive to me. Given that the bulk of the posts here are about playing "directly from the (hard) disk", and he was responding to a long chain of issues relating to playing from the hard drive, it's not crazy to think he meant that.
And his implication on the hardware is just silly. Especially the XP part.
My understanding, from reading his post, is that "direct to disc" means directly from the optical disc, NOT from the hard disk.
Note that if we use the convention "disc" for optical discs, and "disk" for hard drive, confusions could have been avoided.
Im having a problem with PowerDVD not utilizing the SPDIF out everytime. Now and then the program will start using 2 speaker instead of SPDIF. Anyone having the same problem???
Closing and reopening PowerDVD usually fixes the problem. Its just anoying, especially when Im trying to show off my system. Who's impressed with a HTPC that cant even output 5.1??:mad:
jimwhite
02-17-08, 09:09 PM
Second, there are many BD discs that don't work when ripped to the HD
personally, I don't give a s**t... I'd like to see PDVD have all the bugs worked out playing optical discs in the drive first... THEN they should worry about rips...
:cool:
yamahaSHO
02-17-08, 09:27 PM
I've got a Q...
I've got an HIS X1650XT (AGP) (http://www.hisdigital.com/html/product_ov.php?id=276&view=yes) video card and it says that it'll do H.264 (same as MPEG-4?) decoding, however, my CPU usage is 70 - 95% when watching MPEG-4 movies. In PDVD, the box is checked to enable AVIVO, however, my high CPU usage and video card idle temps tell me that the video card is not doing any decoding. Is there something I am doing wrong, or will this card just not cut it?
I canīt get his to work, my 3319vers becomes 3730 no matter what I do, what am I doing wrong
Edit: Got it to work now, the problem was that I am on a Swedish xp and there is no c:\program files, just c:\program so I edit the swither so now itīs work but not when I use the skins so I have to watch the vers manually
can you tell me how to edit the switcher paths? I think the only issue with x64 is the paths. Thanks.
anyone having problems with BD isos created from HDD files using ImgBurn 2.4. I create a UDF 2.50 image file from a BD folder and it plays fine in 3319a, but in 3730 I just get a purple/black screen w/o audio or video.
mounting with virtual CD/DaemonTools Lite (current versions)
Vista Ultimate x64
E6750
2600XT
4GB RAM
HDCP compliant
same with or w/o AnyDVD HD running
HD DVD isos created the same way work perfectly
Thanks
AbMagFab
02-17-08, 11:44 PM
personally, I don't give a s**t... I'd like to see PDVD have all the bugs worked out playing optical discs in the drive first... THEN they should worry about rips...
:cool:
You're definitely in the minority. Go get a dedicated player if you want to play optical discs.
AbMagFab
02-17-08, 11:45 PM
anyone having problems with BD isos created from HDD files using ImgBurn 2.4. I create a UDF 2.50 image file from a BD folder and it plays fine in 3319a, but in 3730 I just get a purple/black screen w/o audio or video.
mounting with virtual CD/DaemonTools Lite (current versions)
Vista Ultimate x64
E6750
2600XT
4GB RAM
HDCP compliant
same with or w/o AnyDVD HD running
HD DVD isos created the same way work perfectly
Thanks
You really need to Read from the disc. Once you burn a directory, weird things seem to happen when trying to build an ISO.
rdunnill
02-18-08, 03:24 AM
I've got a Q...
I've got an HIS X1650XT (AGP) (http://www.hisdigital.com/html/product_ov.php?id=276&view=yes) video card and it says that it'll do H.264 (same as MPEG-4?) decoding, however, my CPU usage is 70 - 95% when watching MPEG-4 movies. In PDVD, the box is checked to enable AVIVO, however, my high CPU usage and video card idle temps tell me that the video card is not doing any decoding. Is there something I am doing wrong, or will this card just not cut it?
I have the same problem with both my 8500GT and my 2600XT. It seems as if there's little, if any, hardware acceleration. (Yes, the hardware acceleration box is checked.)
Can anyone suggest a reason? I'm using Vista x64 with the latest retail build of PowerDVD.
yamahaSHO
02-18-08, 04:01 AM
That's interesting... I was looking to just get a new motherboard, RAM, and video card (looking at 8600GT) to fix the problem. My other rig has an 8800GT SSC and with C1E enabled, my processor (E6750) generally stays at 2Ghz and averages somewhere between 10 - 15% usage while watching the most demanding of HD DVD or Blu-Ray.
I'd hate to get new stuff and have the same issue, but I don't want to spend the money on another 8800GT. I was considering and HIS 3650 (the one that comes with the passive Zalman cooler), but I'm not sure it'll fit in my NSK-2480.
Anyone have any ideas why "rdunnill" and I are having this issue?
So i got a Problem with Powerdvd and the following Configuration
So far so good i was happy. Now i changed my Graphic Card for other Reasons (Watching HDTV from HDTV-Channels wasnt perfect but thats another story). Now i got the Exact Configuration like above only the Graphiccard is now a Ati HD2600 512MB(Saphire passive).
If i want to play all the Titles mentioned above in 1280x720 50hz i get the Sound but a black Screen (with sometimes for a sample of a second a flicker of a Picture) i tried all titles (15) but none of them gave me a video. So the funny thing is, if i set my refreshrate to 60hz everything runs fine(except that a Video at 50frames per second is unacceptable for me at 60hz refreshrate due to stuttering at long horizontal or vertical pan shots).
My Question is: Why deos 50hz refre work on the same configuration with a Geforce 8600GT but wont with a Ati HD2600pro?
And why does it work with an Ati HD2600 at 60hz but wont at 50hz refreshrate?
Hi there, this problem is an ATI driver issue and has not been resolved as of yet (I pray with every new release), try playing back in 1080i 50hz...you will see that it will work flawlessly! I got exactely the same effects you described...but since hd-ready displays are 1080i compatible that should be no big deal.
This is clearly a hardware acceleration problem since without HA it also works with 720p 50hz.! Thanks ATI!
You really need to Read from the disc. Once you burn a directory, weird things seem to happen when trying to build an ISO.
Magically they started to work. I came home from work, took my PC out of sleep and tried one. Auto-magically all my BD isos from folder work now. WTF, but I'm happy.
can you tell me how to edit the switcher paths? I think the only issue with x64 is the paths. Thanks.
Only thing I did was removed "files in c:\program files" I only right click on the swither and click edit
Magically they started to work. I came home from work, took my PC out of sleep and tried one. Auto-magically all my BD isos from folder work now. WTF, but I'm happy.
WTF!!!
How??
arfster
02-18-08, 09:06 AM
I have the same problem with both my 8500GT and my 2600XT. It seems as if there's little, if any, hardware acceleration. (Yes, the hardware acceleration box is checked.)
Can anyone suggest a reason? I'm using Vista x64 with the latest retail build of PowerDVD.
Driver problems are far more likely than PDVD problems - acceleration is one of the few things that actually works properly with PDVD. However, it can't accelerate if the driver/card combo aren't co-operating.
Vista x264 does seem particularly troublesome for acceleration though, a lot of posts here with people having issues. Have you tried DXVA Checker? Here:
http://bluesky23.hp.infoseek.co.jp/index.html#DXVAChecker
This is the most useful tool for this - it'll tell you what acceleration modes the driver itself is reporting.
Driver problems are far more likely than PDVD problems - acceleration is one of the few things that actually works properly with PDVD. However, it can't accelerate if the driver/card combo aren't co-operating.
Vista x264 does seem particularly troublesome for acceleration though, a lot of posts here with people having issues. Have you tried DXVA Checker? Here:
http://bluesky23.hp.infoseek.co.jp/index.html#DXVAChecker
This is the most useful tool for this - it'll tell you what acceleration modes the driver itself is reporting.
Nice find arfster looks like my 2600XT is working right;
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP
ModeMPEG2_C: DXVA1, NV12, 720x480 / 1280x720 / 1920x1080
ModeMPEG2_D: DXVA1, NV12, 720x480 / 1280x720 / 1920x1080
ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT: DXVA1, NV12, 720x480 / 1280x720 / 1920x1080
ModeVC1_VLD: DXVA1, NV12, 720x480 / 1280x720 / 1920x1080
ModeWMV8_PostProc: DXVA1, NV12, 720x480 / 1280x720
ModeWMV9_PostProc: DXVA1, NV12, 720x480 / 1280x720
Huh, well, "directly from the disc" means directly from the hard drive to me. Given that the bulk of the posts here are about playing "directly from the (hard) disk", and he was responding to a long chain of issues relating to playing from the hard drive, it's not crazy to think he meant that.
Hmmm...I think the "bulk" of the posts are about getting PDVD to work properly. The limitations of BD+ and PDVD removing the option to even select movies off a hard drive have rendered much of that moot.
Also, these forums aren't truly threaded, so there's no "chain" he was specifically responding to AFAIK.
AbMagFab
02-18-08, 10:13 AM
Hmmm...I think the "bulk" of the posts are about getting PDVD to work properly. The limitations of BD+ and PDVD removing the option to even select movies off a hard drive have rendered much of that moot.
Also, these forums aren't truly threaded, so there's no "chain" he was specifically responding to AFAIK.
Nothing is "moot". You can use the older version to run off directory structures, and any version to run off an ISO, which is what most of us are doing at this point.
The only issue is BD+ in ISO's, which AnyDVD should crack at some point.
We just want to be able to use media that we purchased legally, but not have to fumble with the discs.
cybrsage
02-18-08, 02:50 PM
We just want to be able to use media that we purchased legally, but not have to fumble with the discs.
Did you buy a license to create a copy of the media?
If not, then you have successfully entered the impossible to fully understand realm of copywrite laws.
PDVD simply did not want to be a party to potential lawsuits, so they removed the ability to potentially violate the law.
Don't like it? You have a few legal options open:
1. Don't buy it.
2. Move to a nation with different laws.
3. Get the laws in your home nation changed.
B Leisle
02-18-08, 03:03 PM
Don't like it? You have a few legal options open:
1. Don't buy it.
2. Move to a nation with different laws.
3. Get the laws in your home nation changed.
You forgot option 4. Use PDVD version 3319.0. :p
PatrickB101
02-18-08, 03:03 PM
Did you buy a license to create a copy of the media?
If not, then you have successfully entered the impossible to fully understand realm of copywrite laws.
PDVD simply did not want to be a party to potential lawsuits, so they removed the ability to potentially violate the law.
Don't like it? You have a few legal options open:
1. Don't buy it.
2. Move to a nation with different laws.
3. Get the laws in your home nation changed.
i am far from a expert but i think copyright laws have for a long time sided with consumers right to backup purchased media.
AbMagFab
02-18-08, 03:17 PM
Did you buy a license to create a copy of the media?
If not, then you have successfully entered the impossible to fully understand realm of copywrite laws.
PDVD simply did not want to be a party to potential lawsuits, so they removed the ability to potentially violate the law.
Don't like it? You have a few legal options open:
1. Don't buy it.
2. Move to a nation with different laws.
3. Get the laws in your home nation changed.
Wow, you sure don't know much about anything, do you?
personally, I don't give a s**t... I'd like to see PDVD have all the bugs worked out playing optical discs in the drive first... THEN they should worry about rips...
You're definitely in the minority. Go get a dedicated player if you want to play optical discs.
I'm pretty much with Jim on this. Playing from the hard drive is pretty much irrelevant if the software doesn't work well in the first place. This thread pretty much boils down to people asking over and over (and over and over and over) if PowerDVD can play from the hard drive (can't people do a search or read back a few pages???) AND basic fundamental issues with PowerDVD.
The fundamental issues are a lot more important than the nuances of playing back an ISO file. If PowerDVD won't play Bourne Ultimatum from the original HD DVD, then it probably won't play from an ISO either. I cite this particular sample because my brother and I tried to watch it last night and got stuck on the Loading Content popup. After fighting with it for a while, we ended up watching another movie instead - Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl which neither of us had seen yet but enjoyed immensely. Or how about how PowerDVD uses different keyboard shortcuts for Bluray versus HD DVD (though the way HD DVD seems to be quickly fading away, this will probably become a moot point)?
Even though it isn't a priority for me (mostly due to how much HDD space is needed for each movie - it's just not very practical to have a large hidef movie collection ripped to HDD's at this point), I sympathise with those who want HDD playback, but I would think nearly everyone could agree that it's secondary to the software actually working...
Wow, you sure don't know much about anything, do you?
Is tact your middle name? :rolleyes:
cybrsage
02-18-08, 03:37 PM
i am far from a expert but i think copyright laws have for a long time sided with consumers right to backup purchased media.
Backup is for archival purposes. You do not use your backup as your primary media or it is no longer a backup.
You are correct about creating backups, though. Any court cases involving the creation of backups for the purpose of having a backup have seen the defendant (the person having the backup) win.
The problem is when the backup is used as the source instead of being used as a backup.
Of course, this varies from nation to nation. In the US, it is quite possible to be taken to court (and lose) if you merely have the backup on a shared drive...which most people would do...since it shows you have the intention of sharing the data (the primary purpose of a shared drive).
The shared drive case has not been tested yet, but the law is written such that it would potentially be used.
Wow, you sure don't know much about anything, do you?
You hurt my feelings. I am suddenly tossed into an abyss of darkness from which I will never recover.
Sorry, I got you confused with someone who matters. Your incomplete thought process failed to bother me in the slightest.
I recommend you read up on the copywrite laws of your nation. You will be surprised to find how little power you actually have.
You probably even think you actually OWN the movie you purchased. You do not, you only own the ability to view it via the media you purchased it upon.
cybrsage
02-18-08, 03:37 PM
You forgot option 4. Use PDVD version 3319.0. :p
:D
You are right about that!
cybrsage
02-18-08, 03:41 PM
Or how about how PowerDVD uses different keyboard shortcuts for Bluray versus HD DVD (though the way HD DVD seems to be quickly fading away, this will probably become a moot point)?
Nothing is "moot".
:D
I do agree with you, it is stupid they used different shortcuts.
I suspect there were two different "teams" working on the two different formats.
AbMagFab
02-18-08, 03:41 PM
Backup is for archival purposes. You do not use your backup as your primary media or it is no longer a backup.
Of course, this varies from nation to nation. In the US, it is quite possible to be taken to court (and lose) if you merely have the backup on a shared drive...which most people would do...since it shows you have the intention of sharing the data (the primary purpose of a shared drive).
The shared drive case has not been tested yet, but the law is written such that it would potentially be used.
You hurt my feelings. I am suddenly tossed into an abyss of darkness from which I will never recover.
Sorry, I got you confused with someone who matters. Your incomplete thought process failed to bother me in the slightest.
I recommend you read up on the copywrite laws of your nation. You will be surprised to find how little power you actually have.
You probably even think you actually OWN the movie you purchased. You do not, you only own the ability to view it via the media you purchased it upon.
Thanks for the response! It's nice to see someone so relaxed and self-confident, as opposed to the many people who just pounce in and act all cocky, without knowing what they're talking about.
I suggest you read up on DMCA (which is not copyright law), and copyright law. And then go read about Fair Use. And then go read about BluRay (and HDDVD), and about their limited copying capabilities for consumers.
However, please keep it out of this thread.
cybrsage
02-18-08, 03:43 PM
Thanks for the response! It's nice to see someone so relaxed and self-confident, as opposed to the many people who just pounce in and act all cocky, without knowing what they're talking about.
I suggest you read up on DMCA (which is not copyright law), and copyright law. And then go read about Fair Use. And then go read about BluRay (and HDDVD), and about their limited copying capabilities for consumers.
However, please keep it out of this thread.
If copywrite law prevents it from happening (legally), then it does not matter if you feel it should be allowed.
But yes, the one thing you are correct about is keeping it out of this thread, so I suggest you follow your own advice...if you are able to do so, of course. If not, then feel free to continue the conversation.
EDIT: Just thought you should know, the DCMA IS copyright law:
H.R.2281
Digital Millennium Copyright Act (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c105:1:./temp/~c105Menuuw:e730:
THE DIGITAL MILLENNIUM COPYRIGHT ACT OF 1998
U.S. Copyright Office Summary
December 1998
INTRODUCTION
The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA)1 was signed into law by President Clinton on October 28, 1998. The legislation implements two 1996 World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) treaties: the WIPO Copyright Treaty and the WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty. The DMCA also addresses a number of other significant copyright-related issues.
http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf
But hey, what is a little issue like that when talking about copyright and laws, eh?
Here is fair use:
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#107
Has anyone found a program or workaround for PowerDVD that allows you to play profile 1.1 discs ripped to the hard drive. I don't want to have to mount an iso. I can get profile 1.0 discs to play in PowerDVD 3319. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Nothing is "moot". You can use the older version to run off directory structures, and any version to run off an ISO, which is what most of us are doing at this point.
The only issue is BD+ in ISO's, which AnyDVD should crack at some point.
We just want to be able to use media that we purchased legally, but not have to fumble with the discs.
Yeah, I understand what you want, I still have my old DVDs ripped to hard drives. Blu-Ray is a different animal, with the format war going on I was not going to buy too many right away so I've been renting from Netflix for the past year. What that taught me was there are so many new movies coming out all the time that I rarely watch any more than once. I'm certainly not going to hassle with ripping discs that I rent. And for those few that I have bought, it's just as easy to put in the disc (that's the BD disc, not a hard drive). Also, even though hard drives are cheap, a BD movie is still 20+ GB. Not to mention the protective coating on a BD works really well so they are far less susceptible to scratching compared to a DVD (or HD DVD).
At any rate, this thread is about a lot more than just "how to watch ripped HDM". That's been only one of a number of problems since the program has come out. We've had Reclock broken, AR control using YXY broken, problems with Profile 1.1, downsampled audio, etc, etc.
Can't be a video card limitation as I've got a 3850 and have no probs with BD/HD movies using PowerDVD. I've used Cats 7.12-8.2, all have been ok so far.
Thanks for the confirmation, though I had already made that assumption. I mean seriously, do they think that issue wouldn't raise a thousand redflags? I couldn't find more than one similar case, lol.
Typical Bangalore brush off (another assumption) but I made them provide more detail, and mentioned that I work for ATI/AMD and would be sure to pass on there accusation, but no luck regardless.
I stopped trying, they win. Even tried anyDvd, no luck.
rdunnill
02-18-08, 11:44 PM
This is the most useful tool for this - it'll tell you what acceleration modes the driver itself is reporting.Thanks -- what should I be looking for? There is *some* acceleration, as otherwise Blu-ray content devolves into a slide show. The particularly troublesome Blu-ray disc I've encountered is "Resident Evil 3," which pushed the CPU to 90-100%; I thought the 2600XT and the 8500GT should be able to accelerate this fully or nearly fully? BTW I get even worse performance under XP.
cpasemann
02-19-08, 02:59 AM
Hi there, this problem is an ATI driver issue and has not been resolved as of yet (I pray with every new release), try playing back in 1080i 50hz...you will see that it will work flawlessly! I got exactely the same effects you described...but since hd-ready displays are 1080i compatible that should be no big deal.
This is clearly a hardware acceleration problem since without HA it also works with 720p 50hz.! Thanks ATI!
Thanx for that i will try 1080i, but this wont look good i think since my Beamers native Res. is 1280x720. Anyway thanx. I will wait for a new ATI-Driver.:(
Thanks -- what should I be looking for? There is *some* acceleration, as otherwise Blu-ray content devolves into a slide show. The particularly troublesome Blu-ray disc I've encountered is "Resident Evil 3," which pushed the CPU to 90-100%; I thought the 2600XT and the 8500GT should be able to accelerate this fully or nearly fully? BTW I get even worse performance under XP.I think this is due to the TrueHD decoding. I can't remember for sure, but doesn't RE3 have a secondary audio track that is DD+ (spanish maybe). Does it play better if you select this track? I returned my RE3 rental before thinking to test this.
DC2R714
02-19-08, 09:52 AM
Has anyone figured a workaround or fix to the dts-mixing mode "tinny" "ringing" audio in BluRay movies? I have updated my audio drivers to the latest and it still isnt going away. It is really annoying so I end up just listening to the movie in stereo sound.
This question is about picture quality in PDVD-U.
I've searched the forum for things like disabling hardware acceleration and am still looking for clues on how to improve the image quality.
Setup includes C2D@2.33GHz, Vista32, NV8500GT and PDVD-U 7.3.3730.
I notice noise in 1080p images that surprises me (example: Spider-Man 3 on bD). [I also notice HUGE differences in standard DVD playback within Media Player 11 between fullscreen and windowed mode, and it seems to have something to do with Aero and overlay. In windowed mode, the image is usually good, while the same content looks horrible in fullscreen Media Player.] In PDVD, I use fullscreen mode, and know that Aero is disabled and hardware acceleration is auto-selected and greyed out for disabling.
Am I being too picky? Should I see noise on Blu-Rays like Spider-Man 3? Is there a way to improve the image quality from PDVD-U?
Ok, so I finally built my HTPC and just recently added the Xbox HD-DVD add-on after using it on my 360. I installed PowerDVD Ultra (I believe the latest version) and was able to play most of HD movies, except for Transformers, Bourne Ultimatum, Pan's Labyrinth, and Shrek 3. Here is my setup:
CPU: Q6600
GPU: 3870x2
OS: Vista Ultimate x64
Display: 18.1" LCD Monitor
Software: AnyDVD HD (latest version), PowerDVD Ultra
The drive was installed fine under Vista and these HD movies are able to be played through my 360, but for some reason they won't play. They load up fine and PDVD starts and shows the Black Loading screen, and it just stays black. I've cleared the memory in the HD-DVD player through the 360 but that didn't help. Anyone have any suggestions or seen the same issue that could help me fix this problem?
belgiangenius
02-19-08, 12:01 PM
I just purchased PowerDVD Ultra 7.3.
I don't have the Blu-ray/HDDVD external drive yet (on order). However, I do have a lot of HD MPEG2 stuff recorded on my netwrok drive that was taken from my PVR. It all plays fine using a few other players, but when I try to play it with PowerDVD, all I get is a black screen, even though the time ticks forward as if it plays. What gives?
I have 3 machines, and all with the same results, a Core Duo 1.67Ghz Mac Mini, a brand new Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz Macbook, and a 2.8Ghz Opteron Dual core desktop with Radeon x850.
This was an expensive piece of software and it seems to suck hard!
I just purchased PowerDVD 7.3.
I don't have the Blu-ray/HDDVD external drive yet (on order). However, I do have a lot of HD MPEG2 stuff recorded on my netwrok drive that was taken from my PVR. It all plays fine using a few other players, but when I try to play it with PowerDVD, all I get is a black screen, even though the time ticks forward as if it plays. What gives?
I have 3 machines, and all with the same results, a Core Duo 1.67Ghz Mac Mini, a brand new Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz Macbook, and a 2.8Ghz Opteron Dual core desktop with Radeon x850.
This was an expensive piece of software and it seems to suck hard!
First you really need a video card that gives you HD acceleration, second you need AnyDVD HD to play HD DVD/BR on non-compliant machines like all three of yours.
belgiangenius
02-19-08, 03:13 PM
First you really need a video card that gives you HD acceleration, second you need AnyDVD HD to play HD DVD/BR on non-compliant machines like all three of yours.
I have AnyDVD HD installed, but these are not Blu-ray/HD-DVD discs I'm trying to play. They're MPEG2 HD files that were captured from an HD PVR.
As I said, they play fine in other players on all machines, so processing/video power is not an issue. Yet, PowerDVD throws up.
Will PowerDVD not work with mainstream video cards, even thought the machine is powerful enough to handle the task?
Jack_Carver
02-19-08, 03:18 PM
Just bought an LG drive, came with PowerDVD 7.3, and it is THE WORST piece of **** program I've ever seen.
It does fill in the blanks so the "Advisor" gives my system all green dots, but it will not play ANYTHING. Ill have to try to uninstall and install again.
Even a standard DVD hangs forever.
Is it really worth it to buy the Ultra version? Why did this PoS even bother to get bundled if it simply wont work?
belgiangenius
02-19-08, 03:18 PM
...and according to the PowerDVD web site, Intel 945/965 graphics is supported. That would make the Macbook Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz fully compliant (since it has an internal video subsystem). What gives?
Jack_Carver
02-19-08, 03:28 PM
It wont let me "uninstall" it. Simply doesn't respond using either the link in startmenu or using control panel "add/remove".
Any ideas how to get this INFESTATION off my PC?
spanner101
02-19-08, 04:05 PM
It wont let me "uninstall" it. Simply doesn't respond using either the link in startmenu or using control panel "add/remove".
Any ideas how to get this INFESTATION off my PC?
Apart from the obvious system restore, you could try installing the v3516 patch for the Retail varsion from the Cyberlink website. Bizarre though it sounds, whenever I tried to patch my semi-useless OEM version (with every patch I could get my grubby mits on, regardless of which version it was intended for), the patch v3516 (for retail) only ever succeeded in unistalling Power DVD altogether.
The 3516 for OEM did actually install properly (gasp), though you could try that, as sometimes successfully installing something over the top of an earlier version seems to sort out a dodgy uninstaller.
...or ruin your life completely.
Another masterstroke of programming by Cyberlink.
Ok, so I finally built my HTPC and just recently added the Xbox HD-DVD add-on after using it on my 360. I installed PowerDVD Ultra (I believe the latest version) and was able to play most of HD movies, except for Transformers, Bourne Ultimatum, Pan's Labyrinth, and Shrek 3. Here is my setup:
CPU: Q6600
GPU: 3870x2
OS: Vista Ultimate x64
Display: 18.1" LCD Monitor
Software: AnyDVD HD (latest version), PowerDVD Ultra
The drive was installed fine under Vista and these HD movies are able to be played through my 360, but for some reason they won't play. They load up fine and PDVD starts and shows the Black Loading screen, and it just stays black. I've cleared the memory in the HD-DVD player through the 360 but that didn't help. Anyone have any suggestions or seen the same issue that could help me fix this problem?
Anyone seen a similar issue to mine? I have tried to find this issue online, but I haven't been able to find a good fix to my issue. The only fix i've seen is the clearing hd-dvd memory, but that doesn't seem to help me at all.
AbMagFab
02-19-08, 04:48 PM
Anyone seen a similar issue to mine? I have tried to find this issue online, but I haven't been able to find a good fix to my issue. The only fix i've seen is the clearing hd-dvd memory, but that doesn't seem to help me at all.
You should block the network port for PDVD. These are probably trying to phone-home to get some live content, which tends to bust PDVD. You can sometimes bypass it by clicking on the screen, or going to the menu, but the best way is to block it from calling at all.
You should block the network port for PDVD. These are probably trying to phone-home to get some live content, which tends to bust PDVD. You can sometimes bypass it by clicking on the screen, or going to the menu, but the best way is to block it from calling at all.
Is this something that I setup in my firewall or router? Where do I find what port is being used by PDVD to call home?
Davinleeds
02-19-08, 04:51 PM
??Try it with one card if 3870x2 means sli setup.
Turn off the router for the movie and if you see a rectangle with cancel and a progress bar, hit enter quickly.
belgiangenius
02-19-08, 04:57 PM
Anyone have any advice on the black screens on all my machines?
Davinleeds
02-19-08, 05:02 PM
Use the cyberlink advisor to test your components, but from past posts and experience it's usually a driver issue.
??Try it with one card if 3870x2 means sli setup.
Turn off the router for the movie and if you see a rectangle with cancel and a progress bar, hit enter quickly.
3870x2 is the card that I own, it is only 1 video card with 2 3870s on 1 pcb. I'll just find a way to block the port from my router, cause I like to surf the web or do other stuff online while watching the movie.
Davinleeds
02-19-08, 05:08 PM
That can use up resources-also fyi, PDVD does not like clone-it wants to only play on the primary display.
That can use up resources-also fyi, PDVD does not like clone-it wants to only play on the primary display.
What do you mean by clone? I am currently using this on 1 primary display. Once I get this to work, i'll move my htpc to connect it to my 46" lcd.
Is this something that I setup in my firewall or router? Where do I find what port is being used by PDVD to call home?
first try to shut down your network in the control panel to see if the helps and if thats your problem if it does you could try to shut it down via the firewall but i have found for some movies i need to disable the network during play back
i have also found it helpful to turn off DEP ( data execution prevention) for power dvd
first try to shut down your network in the control panel to see if the helps and if thats your problem if it does you could try to shut it down via the firewall but i have found for some movies i need to disable the network during play back
i have also found it helpful to turn off DEP ( data execution prevention) for power dvd
Alrighty, thanks for the info. I really wish there was a more direct way of playing HD-Dvds with PDVD than having to disable the network. I guess the software is not quite up to a good standard to where it plays HD content without having the user to make hacks or disable the default options.
Davinleeds
02-19-08, 05:32 PM
What do you mean by clone?
I guess it's a NVIDIA term? Using two monitors to watch the same show. Someone may have a workaround, but for me PDVD is SO picky that it will refuse dragging to a second monitor. And then one day it will, and then...
So it works best on the primary display. PDVD is very particular with each persons computer, many things can affect its mood. Somebody said we were beta testers and it feels like it.
What do you mean by clone?
I guess it's a NVIDIA term? Using two monitors to watch the same show. Someone may have a workaround, but for me PDVD is SO picky that it will refuse dragging to a second monitor. And then one day it will, and then...
So it works best on the primary display. PDVD is very particular with each persons computer, many things can affect its mood. Somebody said we were beta testers and it feels like it.
Oh ok, I get you now, Yeah clone is an option on my video card (ATI) but I don't use it now, and probably won't use it in the future. I agree that PDVD seems like it is in beta. You would think that they would have all of the bugs worked out and be able to work flawlessly with the current HD formats, or format.
Al Sherwood
02-19-08, 06:03 PM
So I wonder what Cyberlink will do to us now that HD-DVD has been scuttled by Toshiba?
Will this be their opportunity to reduce the complexity of PDVD and there by stop the playback of HD-DVD's on the PC?
I just hope they warn us of the 'upgrade' that removes this functionality!!!!
They have not in the past...
skibum5000
02-19-08, 09:15 PM
So I wonder what Cyberlink will do to us now that HD-DVD has been scuttled by Toshiba?
Will this be their opportunity to reduce the complexity of PDVD and there by stop the playback of HD-DVD's on the PC?
I just hope they warn us of the 'upgrade' that removes this functionality!!!!
They have not in the past...
maybe they will now allow playback of hd dvd from latest versions off HD since will the studios care now?
probably foolish thinking but one can always hope.
rdunnill
02-19-08, 09:48 PM
I think this is due to the TrueHD decoding. I can't remember for sure, but doesn't RE3 have a secondary audio track that is DD+ (spanish maybe). Does it play better if you select this track? I returned my RE3 rental before thinking to test this.Thanks -- is there anything I can do to speed up TrueHD decoding?
Also, I can't get good quality DVD playback under Vista Home Premium; playback is choppy and beset with tearing. That does not hold true with Vista Enterprise, leading me to suspect that the latter's performance is due not to what it has but what it doesn't have, namely a free MPEG decoder. Is there any way I can disable the bundled decoders?
has anyone got 310 to yuma working yet? i am using both 3319a and 3370 and am getting the "unsupported format" message any ideas guys. thanks.
first try to shut down your network in the control panel to see if the helps and if thats your problem if it does you could try to shut it down via the firewall but i have found for some movies i need to disable the network during play back
i have also found it helpful to turn off DEP ( data execution prevention) for power dvd
I played around with this a bit tonight with Bourne Ultimatum. Enabling Windows Firewall (XP MCE 2005, latest service pack, etc.) and then disabling PowerDVD in it had no effect - PowerDVD still tried to retrieve web enabled content and just sat there. Probably by a fluke, I was able to get Bourne Ultimatum to play once - probably got lucky on retrieving the web enabled content or something.
Disabling the network seems to do the trick (after restarting PowerDVD multiple times, I could get to the menus and play the movie every time), but is definitely much more drastic than I would prefer to do as I obviously have other uses for the network connection.
Hopefully I can find a reasonable way to lock PowerDVD from using the network and keep the rest of my system usable.
For now, I've shut Windows Firewall back off since it didn't help solve the problem I was trying to solve.
Thanks -- is there anything I can do to speed up TrueHD decoding?Unfortunately I don't know of any way to do that. Just curious but was that the issue? As I said, I returned RE3 without testing that theory.
Also, I can't get good quality DVD playback under Vista Home Premium; playback is choppy and beset with tearing. That does not hold true with Vista Enterprise, leading me to suspect that the latter's performance is due not to what it has but what it doesn't have, namely a free MPEG decoder. Is there any way I can disable the bundled decoders?The following utilities can be used to check what video decoders are installed on your machine and to change the preferred decoders to use with MCE (XP utility referenced in case someone asks for it later):
XP/MCE2005: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=de1491ac-0ab6-4990-943d-627e6ade9fcb&displaylang=en
Vista: http://mediacenterexpert.blogspot.com/2006/07/vista-media-center-decoder-utility.html
Note: This only changes the decoder used by MS Media Center.
rdunnill
02-20-08, 12:17 AM
XP/MCE2005: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=de1491ac-0ab6-4990-943d-627e6ade9fcb&displaylang=en
Vista: http://mediacenterexpert.blogspot.com/2006/07/vista-media-center-decoder-utility.html
Note: This only changes the decoder used by MS Media Center.Thanks, but I'd found those and they don't seem to help.
Has *anyone* achieved smooth DVD playback under Vista Home Premium? Right now, the only way I can play DVDs is via a second boot partition with MCE 2005.
Hmmm. Sorry that didn't help. I don't use MS Media Center so I'm probably not going to be much help beyond that. You may want to start another thread and someone like ChrisL01 can probably give you better answers. (He may not see it buried in this thread.)
Edit: This may be of interest to you (last ditch effort to help): http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13151769&postcount=13
Jack_Carver
02-20-08, 01:51 AM
What a piece of garbage. I gave up and ordered the full PowerDVD Ultra, download with backup CD, $112. Downloaded it, and then.... INVALID KEY when trying to activate it.
That's about all I can handle from this company. Are there any alternatives to playing Bluray/HDDVD's on a PC? Or do I need to just buy a Bluray player and give up on using the PC at all?
How does Cyberlink stay in business, unreal.:mad:
rdunnill
02-20-08, 02:09 AM
What a piece of garbage. I gave up and ordered the full PowerDVD Ultra, download with backup CD, $112. Downloaded it, and then.... INVALID KEY when trying to activate it.
That's about all I can handle from this company. Are there any alternatives to playing Bluray/HDDVD's on a PC? Or do I need to just buy a Bluray player and give up on using the PC at all?
How does Cyberlink stay in business, unreal.:mad:
I managed to get the OEM version working, and had no problems until I rented the dreaded "Resident Evil 3."
Edit: This may be of interest to you (last ditch effort to help):
Thanks, but this is on a single-core CPU (4000+).
Sometimes I wish there were a way to downgrade to Vista Basic. Sometimes.
rdunnill
02-20-08, 02:58 AM
Hmmm. Sorry that didn't help. I don't use MS Media Center so I'm probably not going to be much help beyond that. You may want to start another thread and someone like ChrisL01 can probably give you better answers. (He may not see it buried in this thread.)
Edit: This may be of interest to you (last ditch effort to help): http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13151769&postcount=13
I don't know what I did, whether it was turning off UAC or running the VMCD utility, but DVD playback with PowerDVD Ultra under Vista x64 is now pristine. Thanks for the help!
Now I'm going to order me a copy of "Resident Evil 3" on Blu-ray and see if TrueHD is the cause of the CPU overload.
I just bought Transformers HD DVD (from local storeīs HD DVD clearance sale) and then tried to watch it with XBOX360 drive/PowerDVD/Win XP Pro -combination. There was no picture at all after menus. Then I downloaded 3730 -patch. Movie started but it was really choppy, like a PowerPoint presentation. With every HD DVD movie I own it is now the same thing. Even "old" Poseidon -disc which played smoothly before is now unwatchable.
When I opened task manager it was clear the reason was CPU overload: 98-100%. It seems PowerDvd can no longer use my AGP-Ati Radeon HD2400 Proīs hardware acceleration.
What PowerDVD version should I try next? It is quite clear that previous installed version (3120) can not play Transformers. Is there some kind of workaround solution even if there is no "permanent" fix?
This is not nice: I have legally bought software, equipment and disc but I canīt watch movie... It has not been easy with PowerDVD. Is buying a standalone player only "reasonable" way to watch HD DVDīs? BD has now won the war, I think it might be a good time to take a vacation from PowerDVD:mad:
drsmithdtv
02-20-08, 07:02 AM
I played around with this a bit tonight with Bourne Ultimatum. Enabling Windows Firewall (XP MCE 2005, latest service pack, etc.) and then disabling PowerDVD in it had no effect - PowerDVD still tried to retrieve web enabled content and just sat there. Probably by a fluke, I was able to get Bourne Ultimatum to play once - probably got lucky on retrieving the web enabled content or something.
Disabling the network seems to do the trick (after restarting PowerDVD multiple times, I could get to the menus and play the movie every time), but is definitely much more drastic than I would prefer to do as I obviously have other uses for the network connection.
Hopefully I can find a reasonable way to lock PowerDVD from using the network and keep the rest of my system usable.
For now, I've shut Windows Firewall back off since it didn't help solve the problem I was trying to solve.
If your version of PowerDVD can play HD-DVD from HDD, Bourne Ultimatum can be played via an edited XPL without PowerDVD trying to download first.
I always just hit enter on the keyboard and the it skips the web stuff for Transformers, Bourne Ultimatum and the others that have it.
I don't know what I did, whether it was turning off UAC or running the VMCD utility, but DVD playback with PowerDVD Ultra under Vista x64 is now pristine. Thanks for the help!Glad it's working. Let me know what you find out on RE3.
What a piece of garbage. I gave up and ordered the full PowerDVD Ultra, download with backup CD, $112. Downloaded it, and then.... INVALID KEY when trying to activate it.
That's about all I can handle from this company. Are there any alternatives to playing Bluray/HDDVD's on a PC? Or do I need to just buy a Bluray player and give up on using the PC at all?
How does Cyberlink stay in business, unreal.:mad:
The problems you are experiencing with basic function are not typical. I was able to play DVDs just fine in my OEM version of PowerDVD right out of the box. No noticeable startup times or hangs in performance. I am thinking you may have a conflict or bad dll of some sort. You may get lucky and your install of Ultra will just magically fix this.
I purchased and installed Ultra this weekend. I was able to uninstall the OEM version without a problem (again, I'm not sure what issue you are seeing here but I doubt it is the PowerDVD software). Note that when I tried to type in the registration key it refused to take it 3 times. I carefully visually verified that I had it correct. HOWEVER, when I just cut-and-pasted the exact same key out of the e-mail into the key fields (just selected the first one and it pasted across into all of them) it took the key successfully. I don't know what is going on with that, but it works now.
I hope you are able to get this going. PowerDVD is considered to be one of the better players out there. I believe there are other options (e.g. TheaterTek) but in general I am concerned that you have a configuration problem of some sort.
Now, here's a question from me:
This weekend using the OEM version of PowerDVD to play a regular DVD I was not able to successfully use my media center remote to control the transport functions (play, pause, etc.) of the player. I could, however, use the arrow keys to select options and use the select key to activate them.
I installed Ultra later but haven't verified if I still have a problem.
I believe from reading elsewhere that this remote integration is supposed to work out of the box. Does anyone have any insight into what may be going on here (e.g. an option that needs to be set, etc.)?
Thanks.
I played around with this a bit tonight with Bourne Ultimatum. Enabling Windows Firewall (XP MCE 2005, latest service pack, etc.) and then disabling PowerDVD in it had no effect - PowerDVD still tried to retrieve web enabled content and just sat there. Probably by a fluke, I was able to get Bourne Ultimatum to play once - probably got lucky on retrieving the web enabled content or something.
Disabling the network seems to do the trick (after restarting PowerDVD multiple times, I could get to the menus and play the movie every time), but is definitely much more drastic than I would prefer to do as I obviously have other uses for the network connection.
Hopefully I can find a reasonable way to lock PowerDVD from using the network and keep the rest of my system usable.
For now, I've shut Windows Firewall back off since it didn't help solve the problem I was trying to solve.
So I tried the same thing by disabling PDVD in the Windows Firewall and it the HD-DVD still wanted to connect to the web to the Web-Enabled content. I tried what others suggested and hit 'Enter' to cancel this download. After doing that it went straight to the menu and I was able to play the movies (Transformers, Bourne Ultimatum, Pan's Labyrinth, Shrek 3) without any problems. I hope a new patch comes out that works properly with this web-enabled content.
TokyoShoe
02-20-08, 10:49 AM
I've got a registered/purchased copy of PowerDVD Ultra that I've got patched up to 3730. So far, I am happy to say, I can actually throw anything at it from my 79 HD-DVD's or 7 Blu-ray's , and it all works just fine. All of my HTPC playback kinks got ironed out when I upgraded my system to a 2.4Ghz Quad Core. Now I can throw darn near anything at it.
I do have 3:10 to Yuma, and it plays fine.. menu behaves too.
I have Resident Evil 3, that plays back just fine as well.
Note, however, that this is all direct from the original media.. NOT hard drive rips.
In regards to Vista Media Center, I use it regularly for DVD playback and it works just fine. I do, however rely mostly on PowerDVD for regular DVD playback. Based upon this, I will admit that while I have gotten VMC to work I have not had to USE it in quite a few weeks.
Personal Opinion: While I will agree that PowerDVD Ultra can be buggy if not downright disobediant at times, I think it would be a massive mistake on Cyberlink's part to remove HD-DVD playback just because Toshiba has admitted defeat. Toshiba throwing in the towel does not magically convert all my HD-DVD's to Blu-rays.. and I still need something to play them back on. This was one of the primary driving philosophies behind my building a Purple HTPC to begin with. I also think that long term, as long as Cyberlink can keep their act relatively straight, PowerDVD could turn out to be the saving grace for people with HD-DVD collections. This may actually turn MORE people to HTPC usage.
I just bought Transformers HD DVD (from local storeīs HD DVD clearance sale) and then tried to watch it with XBOX360 drive/PowerDVD/Win XP Pro -combination. There was no picture at all after menus. Then I downloaded 3730 -patch. Movie started but it was really choppy, like a PowerPoint presentation. With every HD DVD movie I own it is now the same thing. Even "old" Poseidon -disc which played smoothly before is now unwatchable.
When I opened task manager it was clear the reason was CPU overload: 98-100%. It seems PowerDvd can no longer use my AGP-Ati Radeon HD2400 Proīs hardware acceleration.
What PowerDVD version should I try next? It is quite clear that previous installed version (3120) can not play Transformers. Is there some kind of workaround solution even if there is no "permanent" fix?
This is not nice: I have legally bought software, equipment and disc but I canīt watch movie... It has not been easy with PowerDVD. Is buying a standalone player only "reasonable" way to watch HD DVDīs? BD has now won the war, I think it might be a good time to take a vacation from PowerDVD:mad:
I seem to have the same issue in that my hardware acceleration is not being utilized as well. I've heard that when using ATI's Avivo hardware acceleration, the CPU usage should be minimal, but yet when playing HDs on PDVD my CPU usage is around 15-20%, while my GPU usages is at 1%. Does PDVD have something that disables this feature? I have the box checked to use the Avivo Hardware Acceleration in PDVD.
lsdavinci
02-20-08, 10:58 AM
So I tried the same thing by disabling PDVD in the Windows Firewall and it the HD-DVD still wanted to connect to the web to the Web-Enabled content. I tried what others suggested and hit 'Enter' to cancel this download. After doing that it went straight to the menu and I was able to play the movies (Transformers, Bourne Ultimatum, Pan's Labyrinth, Shrek 3) without any problems. I hope a new patch comes out that works properly with this web-enabled content.
I hope so also but I wouldn't be surprised if they drop HD DVD development from this point going forward. :(
Radiophile
02-20-08, 11:13 AM
The reason I contacted tech support about my can't-play-Yuma problem is because I heard in some other posting that sometimes Cyberlink gives out 3730 to those who complain. Unfortunately I'm not one of those lucky ones. They initially told me that downloading 3516 would fix my problem. I told them I already had 3516. They finally replied again and get this... they asked me to send them the log file from the PDVD Advisor app (the Cyberlink app that tests system components to see if the hardware is HD disc ready); to send them the text file results from MS DXdiag; to tell them the brand and model of my video card and monitor. No mention of needing 3730! Well, I jumped through their silly hoops and sent them the info. Lets see what happens...Well it's been six days and no response. I just gave up and bought Ultra (Newegg!) so I can get the 3730 upgrade. (Too bad a company with a lousy product and lousy support ends up getting my money, but there doesn't seem to be a viable alternative at this point.)
So, what's the best method to install the new Ultra retail software? (Of course I will make an image of my system drive first, in case something goes horribly wrong.) Should I uninstall the OEM before installing the Retail version? Or can I skip the uninstall-OEM step?
For those wondering about RE3, TrueHD audio on blu-ray is indeed the reason. There is a thread on that (by me and others) on the AnyDVD HD forums as well. People found that TrueHD was the reason, although for some reason RE3 seems to be even higher than normal (but all other tested movies also spike CPU with TrueHD enabled). With HD-DVD, there was no such spike, and a curious fact is that for HD-DVD, PowerDVD reads the TrueHD track as "MLP" on the info window while with blu-ray it reads TrueHD. It could be that blu-ray and hd-dvd use a different "flavor" of TrueHD, or that PowerDVD just reads the tracks in a different way.
HT Slider
02-20-08, 12:33 PM
I purchased and installed Ultra this weekend. I was able to uninstall the OEM version without a problem.
Why would you purchase the retail Ultra when you already have the OEM Ultra.
I have the OEM version and so far it seems to play absolutely everything I throw at it. Image quality is top notch as is the audio.
I do hate the fact that it clearly isn't written to work well in a dedicated home theater setup (no overscan compensation for GUI, awkward remote control limitations (info brings up a screen you can't control, etc.), effectively no integration with typical HTPC software, can't play from HD, lack of ability to switch resolutions when using full screen, etc.). As far as I'm aware none of these issues are any better with the retail version.
Is there something I'm missing? I can't understand why I keep reading about people paying extra for the retail version.
TokyoShoe
02-20-08, 12:42 PM
Why would you purchase the retail Ultra when you already have the OEM Ultra.
I have the OEM version and so far it seems to play absolutely everything I throw at it. Image quality is top notch as is the audio.
Presently you cannot update the OEM version to 3730, which means (I believe) no Blu-Ray Profile 1.2 support.. among other things. So Blu-ray movies like 3:10 to Yuma won't play properly.
There is an actual list of fixes and changes with the 3730 version floating around here, it shows what things you get with that patch version.
has anyone got 310 to yuma working yet? i am using both 3319a and 3370 and am getting the "unsupported format" message any ideas guys. thanks.
Worked fine for me using 3730.
Presently you cannot update the OEM version to 3730, which means (I believe) no Blu-Ray Profile 1.2 support.. among other things. So Blu-ray movies like 3:10 to Yuma won't play properly.
There is an actual list of fixes and changes with the 3730 version floating around here, it shows what things you get with that patch version.
Yes, that's my reason. Cyberlink for some reason appears eager to support and upgrade Ultra while leaving OEM users out in the cold. You would think this would be an issue for drive vendors such as LG, since I expect they would start getting complaints that "X new movie doesn't work in your drive".
However, in other respects this kind of thing is not unusual. You typically get an "LE" version for free with cameras, for example. I guess the difference is that in that case you are just missing features rather than not being able to view or edit pictures taken after a certain date :).
Emissary
02-20-08, 01:46 PM
Worked fine for me using 3730.
Did you run the 3730 patch to update an older build, or did you actually have the full installation file for 3730 and install it from scratch? On the Cyberlink forum, people seem to think that that may make a difference.
TokyoShoe
02-20-08, 01:50 PM
Did you run the 3730 patch to update an older build, or did you actually have the full installation file for 3730 and install it from scratch? On the Cyberlink forum, people seem to think that that may make a difference.
If it helps, everything runs fine for me so far with the 3730 Patch.. and I did an install from scratch.
Al Sherwood
02-20-08, 01:59 PM
Originally Posted by ZED72
I just bought Transformers HD DVD (from local storeīs HD DVD clearance sale) and then tried to watch it with XBOX360 drive/PowerDVD/Win XP Pro -combination. There was no picture at all after menus. Then I downloaded 3730 -patch. Movie started but it was really choppy, like a PowerPoint presentation. With every HD DVD movie I own it is now the same thing. Even "old" Poseidon -disc which played smoothly before is now unwatchable.
When I opened task manager it was clear the reason was CPU overload: 98-100%. It seems PowerDvd can no longer use my AGP-Ati Radeon HD2400 Proīs hardware acceleration.
What PowerDVD version should I try next? It is quite clear that previous installed version (3120) can not play Transformers. Is there some kind of workaround solution even if there is no "permanent" fix?
This is not nice: I have legally bought software, equipment and disc but I canīt watch movie... It has not been easy with PowerDVD. Is buying a standalone player only "reasonable" way to watch HD DVDīs? BD has now won the war, I think it might be a good time to take a vacation from PowerDVD
I seem to have the same issue in that my hardware acceleration is not being utilized as well. I've heard that when using ATI's Avivo hardware acceleration, the CPU usage should be minimal, but yet when playing HDs on PDVD my CPU usage is around 15-20%, while my GPU usages is at 1%. Does PDVD have something that disables this feature? I have the box checked to use the Avivo Hardware Acceleration in PDVD. .
There are versions of the ATI drivers that do not 'keep' the hardware acceleration box checked, those below 7.7 ( I have 7.7 and it works), and I know 7.8-7.10 gave me trouble as well.
I have not tested any of the newest ATI drivers, "if ain't broke don't fix it"
Maybe somebody can post which versions of the ATI driver keep the hardware acceleration checked? :D
Jim Gilliland
02-20-08, 02:15 PM
Yes, that's my reason. Cyberlink for some reason appears eager to support and upgrade Ultra while leaving OEM users out in the cold. You would think this would be an issue for drive vendors such as LG, since I expect they would start getting complaints that "X new movie doesn't work in your drive".
I returned my LG drive for exactly that reason. I bought a Playstation3 for my BD movies instead. It turned out to be both cheaper and much more reliable.
AbMagFab
02-20-08, 02:19 PM
I returned my LG drive for exactly that reason. I bought a Playstation3 for my BD movies instead. It turned out to be both cheaper and much more reliable.
But the PS3 is soooooo noisy.
jimwhite
02-20-08, 02:43 PM
I've got a registered/purchased copy of PowerDVD Ultra that I've got patched up to 3730. So far, I am happy to say, I can actually throw anything at it from my 79 HD-DVD's or 7 Blu-ray's , and it all works just fine. All of my HTPC playback kinks got ironed out when I upgraded my system to a 2.4Ghz Quad Core. Now I can throw darn near anything at it. [/I]
Can I ask what your system mb/graphics are? :confused:
:cool:
jimwhite
02-20-08, 02:45 PM
But the PS3 is soooooo noisy.
I think that's another urban legend.... I bought a refurbed 60gb PS3 and it's barely audible during movie play.... it does get noticed during quiet points of PS3 Games, though.... :p
:cool:
AbMagFab
02-20-08, 02:49 PM
I think that's another urban legend.... I bought a refurbed 60gb PS3 and it's barely audible during movie play.... it does get noticed during quiet points of PS3 Games, though.... :p
:cool:
Not a legend, I have one. The fan on the thing is the noisiest item in my HT. My projector runs at about 20db, and the PS3 is like a noisy PC fan and drowns out all other ambient noise in my HT.
You either live in NYC with your windows open, or you are not very sensitive to fan noise.
spanner101
02-20-08, 02:59 PM
Latest Cyberlink response to query about 3:10 to Yuma not working with OEM PowerDvd Ultra patched to v3516:
We wish to inform you that this issue is already been escalated to the Product Development Department regarding the non playback of Blu-Ray disk "3:10
to Yuma" and the concern department has issued this problem as an bug in the software and will release a patch to resolve this issue. We will further update you as soon as we get any response from them.
So I'll keep checking the site but won't hold me breath (response was quick though, to be fair).
jimwhite
02-20-08, 03:41 PM
You either live in NYC with your windows open, or you are not very sensitive to fan noise
well, I can assure you that Treasure Island, FL is not in NYC :D
and my hearing is sensitive enough to "hear" the fan noise on my HTPC warning me that the metal-weave grills in front of them are clogged with dust :D
in all fairness, maybe the factory refurbs have quieter fans installed :confused: :eek:
:cool:
Jack_Carver
02-20-08, 04:01 PM
On a fresh XPpro install I tried again to install the PowerDVD Ultra I bought for $112 last night. This time it installed and took the KEY. But it comes up before and after the 3730 update as.... PowerDVD DELUXE. Sigh.
I registered after activating, and the email generated back to me says Thanks... for registering your new copy of PowerDVD Ultra.
Guess they think that's funny.
So Deluxe does NOT play at HD resolution. It will at least play the disks but wont allow me to increase window size to beyond a very low resolution. If I do, it causes this nasty stretching/blurring of the bottom line of the movie stretched to fill the area larger than the low resolution size allowed.
Everything I touch from this company is like electronic cancer.
So something in my main install is preventing PowerDVD from accepting the KEY. But on the naked fresh install... SP2 up to date and no other applications installed.... at least it takes the key and runs.
How do you activate reclock in power dvd do you have to force it to load or can you select it....I use digital out only from htpc.
Jim Gilliland
02-20-08, 04:38 PM
But the PS3 is soooooo noisy.Not mine, I can't even hear its fan unless I get within a foot of it. But I understand that the older models had more heat issues, and therefore more fan issues. Mine is the 40GB model which uses the new smaller chipset (which generates far less heat). Anyway, it's VERY quiet.
There are versions of the ATI drivers that do not 'keep' the hardware acceleration box checked, those below 7.7 ( I have 7.7 and it works), and I know 7.8-7.10 gave me trouble as well.
I have not tested any of the newest ATI drivers, "if ain't broke don't fix it"
Maybe somebody can post which versions of the ATI driver keep the hardware acceleration checked? :D
Do you know the % of CPU usage that you have during an HD/BD movie playback? Also what is your GPU % usage during this time as well? What type of video card are you using?
On a fresh XPpro install I tried again to install the PowerDVD Ultra I bought for $112 last night. This time it installed and took the KEY. But it comes up before and after the 3730 update as.... PowerDVD DELUXE. Sigh.
I registered after activating, and the email generated back to me says Thanks... for registering your new copy of PowerDVD Ultra.
Guess they think that's funny.
So Deluxe does NOT play at HD resolution. It will at least play the disks but wont allow me to increase window size to beyond a very low resolution. If I do, it causes this nasty stretching/blurring of the bottom line of the movie stretched to fill the area larger than the low resolution size allowed.
Everything I touch from this company is like electronic cancer.
So something in my main install is preventing PowerDVD from accepting the KEY. But on the naked fresh install... SP2 up to date and no other applications installed.... at least it takes the key and runs.
your issue with the activation saying deluxe is normal but to be sure, check what version you are running. when you start pw dvd click on cyberlink on the upper left of the skins page than click on the area just under were it says (this product licensed to) to see what version you are running
although some people are not having problems running pw dvd under win xp I just cant get it to work right, but atleast for me under Vista, pwr dvd is a completely different program
Davinleeds
02-20-08, 04:58 PM
On a fresh XPpro install I tried again to install the PowerDVD Ultra I bought for $112 last night. This time it installed and took the KEY. But it comes up before and after the 3730 update as.... PowerDVD DELUXE. Sigh.
I registered after activating, and the email generated back to me says Thanks... for registering your new copy of PowerDVD Ultra.
Guess they think that's funny.
So Deluxe does NOT play at HD resolution. It will at least play the disks but wont allow me to increase window size to beyond a very low resolution. If I do, it causes this nasty stretching/blurring of the bottom line of the movie stretched to fill the area larger than the low resolution size allowed.
Everything I touch from this company is like electronic cancer.
So something in my main install is preventing PowerDVD from accepting the KEY. But on the naked fresh install... SP2 up to date and no other applications installed.... at least it takes the key and runs.
And if your picture looks like post1152 it's usually a driver:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=927751&page=39
TokyoShoe
02-20-08, 05:15 PM
Can I ask what your system mb/graphics are? :confused:
Nvidia Nforce 650i SLI Motherboard
2gb DDR2 RAM (533 i think)
Quad-Core 2.4 Ghz 1066 Intel CPU
Nvidia Geforce 8500 GT
Windows Vista Home Premium
Yes, I need to upgrade the memory to full FSB 1066 speed.. but I haven't gotten around to it yet, and I honestly don't think it will make a difference.
rdunnill
02-20-08, 06:11 PM
For those wondering about RE3, TrueHD audio on blu-ray is indeed the reason. There is a thread on that (by me and others) on the AnyDVD HD forums as well. People found that TrueHD was the reason, although for some reason RE3 seems to be even higher than normal (but all other tested movies also spike CPU with TrueHD enabled). With HD-DVD, there was no such spike, and a curious fact is that for HD-DVD, PowerDVD reads the TrueHD track as "MLP" on the info window while with blu-ray it reads TrueHD. It could be that blu-ray and hd-dvd use a different "flavor" of TrueHD, or that PowerDVD just reads the tracks in a different way.
Is there a way I can turn off TrueHD?
Jack_Carver
02-20-08, 06:22 PM
BK, thanks a bunch, never could find where the version number was hidden.
it says PowerDVD Version 7.3(Ultra)
and in the area that pops up.... DVD Version 7.3.3730.0 with a bunch of bibble babble that has "Ultra" in a couple places.
So saying "Deluxe" in the scroll display is normal... cough. :confused:
Davin, yes it looks like that post, so I'll uninstall clean and reinstall my NVidia video drivers and hope that does it.
Thanks a million both of you.
BigWorm2005GT
02-20-08, 06:39 PM
Latest Cyberlink response to query about 3:10 to Yuma not working with OEM PowerDvd Ultra patched to v3516:
We wish to inform you that this issue is already been escalated to the Product Development Department regarding the non playback of Blu-Ray disk "3:10
to Yuma" and the concern department has issued this problem as an bug in the software and will release a patch to resolve this issue. We will further update you as soon as we get any response from them.
So I'll keep checking the site but won't hold me breath (response was quick though, to be fair).
Funny... That's the same response, word for word, that I got when I asked about Resident Evil: Extinction playing on my OEM PowerDVD Ultra... I've heard of canned responses, but that smacks of pure automated response.
BW
audionewer
02-20-08, 08:52 PM
how do i add the extension (mkv) to powerdvd so i can play mkv movies ?
HT Slider
02-20-08, 08:57 PM
Presently you cannot update the OEM version to 3730, which means (I believe) no Blu-Ray Profile 1.2 support.. among other things. So Blu-ray movies like 3:10 to Yuma won't play properly.
There is an actual list of fixes and changes with the 3730 version floating around here, it shows what things you get with that patch version.
I've been told 3:10 to Yuma does play on the current OEM version though (with some hardware).
We'll probably rent it in a few days and find out for ourselves.
Thanks, but I'd found those and they don't seem to help.
Has *anyone* achieved smooth DVD playback under Vista Home Premium? Right now, the only way I can play DVDs is via a second boot partition with MCE 2005.
Yes,
I was actually having issues with HD/BD in XP Pro so I upgraded to Vista Ultimate (Dunno the difference between that and Home Premium) but all my formats play back silky smooth now DVD/HD/BD. I have a 8800GT, 4GB ram, Creative PCI-E audio card decoding to analog.
Sam
Andy o, thanks for confirming.
hdmi4ever
02-20-08, 09:51 PM
This question probably has been asked and answered before... however, I tried to use the search function but it won't let me search for BD+ (the effect is like searching only for BD).
Will PowerDVD Ultra play Blu-Ray discs that have BD+ protection? If yes, will it also do it on a non-HDCP graphics card if AnyDVD HD is used? I don't really care about ripping, I just want it to play.
AbMagFab
02-20-08, 09:59 PM
This question probably has been asked and answered before... however, I tried to use the search function but it won't let me search for BD+ (the effect is like searching only for BD).
Will PowerDVD Ultra play Blu-Ray discs that have BD+ protection? If yes, will it also do it on a non-HDCP graphics card if AnyDVD HD is used? I don't really care about ripping, I just want it to play.
Yes, and no.
3730 - will only play BD+ discs with encryption still on them (meaning HDCP is needed, and you can't rip them to your HDD)
Pre-3730 - will play BD+ discs with or without encryption (from HDD or player), but doesn't support the BD 1.1+ features.
scribe5
02-21-08, 09:03 AM
A