PowerDVD Ultra (HD-DVD and Blu-Ray)

[audionewer]

can PowerDVD play ISO image file?

[Lucifer1977]

No problems what so ever. Everything works perfectly - except BlueRay lipsync.

[hlkc]

can PowerDVD play ISO image file?

The MOST prefer and ONLY way here.

[giedrys]

This probably was answered before, but since i couldn't find it, i have to ask here:
what is the problem with DVD-Audio playback on PDVD Ultra? It doesn't work with any of my original DVD-A discs, except a few demo(those that have no protection i suppose). After inserting the disc and "updating CPPM key" it simply switches to the video side of the disc for DD5.1 playback.
No MLP for me:(

My system is:

E4400
9600GT
Auzentech Xplosion 7.1 with analog out
Vista Ultimate 32
PDVD 7.3 & 8 Ultra

[Donnacha]

same here for me with my 2 DVD-Audios!

[Robert Clark]

Same here...

[archibael]

Never got it to work. Grumbled about it a lot, then ripped them to 5.1 LPCM and stored them on the server.

[Robert Clark]

How?

[vome]

I just got a Visiontek 4850 and I can't play blu-ray from my hard drive anymore. It says incompatible graphics driver error code = 0012. I use to have a 7900gs and it was fine. I'm using vista and my powerdvd is version 7.3. The driver is the 4850 hotfix from the AMD website. In the catalyst control panel, it says 8.6. Anybody with a 4850 that works with blu-ray?

[hlkc]

I just got a Visiontek 4850 and I can't play blu-ray from my hard drive anymore. It says incompatible graphics driver error code = 0012. I use to have a 7900gs and it was fine. I'm using vista and my powerdvd is version 7.3. The driver is the 4850 hotfix from the AMD website. In the catalyst control panel, it says 8.6. Anybody with a 4850 that works with blu-ray?

I have been using 4850 and PDVD8 play BD and DVD all day long.

What do you mean "from my hard drive anymore"?

[saintsaints]

Got the Visiontek 4850 and its a blank screen with audio for all bd's on PD8, with PD7.3 it's also blank and but works from isos.

[Karyk]

I just purchased a LITE-ON Blu-ray drive and installed the powerdvd bd 2ch 7.3 software that came with it. I am trying to play "3:10 to Yuma" blu-ray disc on it and noticed that I can't get past the menu. I read in a post in this thread that upgrading PowerDVD version to 3730a (for LG drives) will fix the problem. I am wondering if this is OK to do?? This will not screw up my PowerDVD installation, right?

EDIT: Well, I updated to the LG version 3730a. The menus were not accessible by mouse even with the new version. But, the menus were accessible by keyboard using arrow keys and enter. I never tried to navigate the menu in the older version with the keyboard - so I am not sure that the update fixed this issue or it was never broken :). Researching this issue on the net, I found that for BD-J discs - mouse navigation is not supposed to work. F*@#*g copy protection non-sense!

Osho

I've only read this post so far, but keyboard navigation didn't work for me. HP's blu-ray player, which I believe is Cyberlink.

[seanrh]

I just hooked up my xbox 360 hd dvd drive with powerDVD ultra and when i put a disk in it just spins and nothing happens. Windows sees the movie but powerDVD won't play it and gives no error. What gives? I have 4850 crossfire running hdmi to a 32" aquos and I pass the BD advisor.

[aingeal]

Hey all,

I'm looking for some help on getting the correct audio output on my receiver from my computer with PDVD. I have the newest version of PDVD 8 Ultra and I am running S/PDIF from my sound card to my receiver. When I go to enable S/PDIF in PDVD I get no audio playback at all. I have everything setup correct in Vista, with my default sound using S/PDIF. It will not play sounds on regular DVDs or Blu-Ray DVDs, is there a codec issue or something with PDVD? If I play a movie clip, say a trailer, with WMP 11 the surround sound will work correctly, but not in PDVD.

My sound card is a Chaintech AV710.
My receiver is an older Pioneer VSX-D498.

Any help?

[bk1987]

I just hooked up my xbox 360 hd dvd drive with powerDVD ultra and when i put a disk in it just spins and nothing happens. Windows sees the movie but powerDVD won't play it and gives no error. What gives? I have 4850 crossfire running hdmi to a 32" aquos and I pass the BD advisor.

What version of pwr Dvd are you using 7.3 or 8 if its 8 HD DVD's wont work without a hack

[seanrh]

What version of pwr Dvd are you using 7.3 or 8 if its 8 HD DVD's wont work without a hack

I have 8 with said hack on vista X64.

[720p]

I have 8 with said hack on vista X64.

didn't the hack work only with 1622? or is there a way to make work with 1730b as well?

edit: ok I checked the slysoft forum and it works with a bit of fiddling.

[seanrh]

Went to 7.3 and all is well now :)

[Cochese]

Disclaimer: I am NOT asking for warez here...what I am trying to do is get ahold of this earlier build and use my own license. Since this is the last build that supports playing ripped dvds (without mounting iso files).

I have no idea where to download this version - all cyberlink is offering is the 8.x.

?

[Andy o]

You guys notice the updates page for 7.3 ultra is no longer there? No more updates for 7.3?

[genro]

You guys notice the updates page for 7.3 ultra is no longer there? No more updates for 7.3?

LOL yes! Even old links to the 7.3 Update page now get redirected. Haha, what a POS company.

But wait! We get to pay money again for "MovieLive"!!!!! Weeeee. Anyone else want to take a gander at what "features" they will be adding for 8.5/9, and more importantly at what price?

[TokyoShoe]

LOL yes! Even old links to the 7.3 Update page now get redirected. Haha, what a POS company.

But wait! We get to pay money again for "MovieLive"!!!!! Weeeee. Anyone else want to take a gander at what "features" they will be adding for 8.5/9, and more importantly at what price?

So what was the last known released patch version of 7.3 before they "disappeared it" from their patch page?

[genro]

So what was the last known released patch version of 7.3 before they "disappeared it" from their patch page?

CyberLink.4102_Ultra_DVD080411-03

[Andy o]

LOL yes! Even old links to the 7.3 Update page now get redirected. Haha, what a POS company.

But wait! We get to pay money again for "MovieLive"!!!!! Weeeee. Anyone else want to take a gander at what "features" they will be adding for 8.5/9, and more importantly at what price?

I'd like the ability to disable moovielive and the other crap I don't even know its name permanently. I told them I would like that.

Another thing would be bitstream support (which I didn't care for, but if you could get it for "free", if all mainstream cheaper receivers had DTS-HD MA and TrueHD decoders, I am considering more and more).

Besides that I don't know what of substance you could add to something like PowerDVD, maybe the new DTS features such as DTS Surround Sensation (but don't take away Dolby Headphone, please).

Realistically, though, besides proper HDMI support, I am only expecting more bloatware.

[MKANET]

Yes, I predicted this a few weeks ago. There should be no surprises.. at least the people who read my thread below:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14088289#post14088289


06-15-08, 10:22 AM - mkanet

"Based on the recent changes in PowerDVD 8 (with Patch 1730 and newer), it looks like it will be also the end of the line for PowerDVD 7.3 as well... no more patches for PowerDVD 7.3 (at least nothing significant)."




You guys notice the updates page for 7.3 ultra is no longer there? No more updates for 7.3?

[Andy o]

Hmm I think most of us can still do HD-DVD with the 8.0.1730B. We'll see what happens. In the meantime, I don't have any problems with having 7.3 installed for all my HD-DVD needs though. There's no update needed ever for that purpose.

[MKANET]

Actually, I think its more closer to half of the people cant get it to work with 1730; even on very vanilla setups. I think its just a combination of Vista Aero using hardware: Nvidia/Creative/RealtekHD. It's a fundamental change; as it consistently worked across the board for everyone up until PDVD 1622U.

Hmm I think most of us can still do HD-DVD with the 8.0.1730B. We'll see what happens. In the meantime, I don't have any problems with having 7.3 installed for all my HD-DVD needs though. There's no update needed ever for that purpose.

[Al Sherwood]

CyberLink.4102_Ultra_DVD080411-03

Could somebody post the version/build number that you would see on the screen before and after this patch is applied?

Thanks!

[mutenroid]

i have a problem with powerdvd 8 & SPDIF passthrough (Option Speaker environment: Use S/PDIF... selected)

I have two DTS albums. One of them is Hotel California (it's like a miniDVD with menu), the attributes are:

Audio attributes:
Audio coding mode: DTS
Sampling rate: 48kHz
Audio application mode: Not Specified
Number of audio channels: 5.1
Bitrate: 1536 Kbps

and the other album is "Queen - Play the Game", it's a downloaded album made by something and have only dts tracks, no menu, no dvd structure... audio attributtes are:

Audio attributes:
Audio coding mode: DTS
Sampling rate: 48kHz
Number of audio channels: 5.1
Bitrate: 1411 Kbps

The first album plays perfect through S/PDIF, but the second album don't work, powerdvd don't send any signal to the receiver. It's strangeous.

Any solution?

Thanks & sorry for my english.

[Nimo]

Disclaimer: I am NOT asking for warez here...what I am trying to do is get ahold of this earlier build and use my own license. Since this is the last build that supports playing ripped dvds (without mounting iso files).

I have no idea where to download this version - all cyberlink is offering is the 8.x.

?

If you look hard enough it's floating around I just updated my 3104a to 3319a not to long ago. Although I've had every update since 6.5.;) Good Luck!

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o65/freedombikesusa/vsxmas.jpg

[gunbunnysoulja]

I can't seem to get multi-channel sound with OEM version 7.3 with patch 4102a.

I use Realtek High Definition SPDIF for audio, although when I select use SPDIF in PowerDVD I get no sound plus stuttering playback.

I have tested this for HD DVD, blu ray, and DVD.

I read that 2 channel mode should only be for analog out, however just to be sure I downloaded a trial of PowerDVD 8, and I still only get 2 channel sound.

I do however get Dolby Digital to work fine when running DVD's via Media Center.

Under Audio Devices, when I select Realtek Digital Output, configure is grayed out, however I can select properties. Under Advanced, for the Default Format, only 2 channel options are available. I think this may be the issue. I am running the latest Realtek High Definition Audio Drivers...

EDIT: I uninstalled my realtek high definition driver, rebooted, and let windows automatically reinstall. Now it works.

[rdunnill]

Got the Visiontek 4850 and its a blank screen with audio for all bd's on PD8, with PD7.3 it's also blank and but works from isos.I have a Sapphire 3650 under Vista x64 SP2 , and with PD 7.3 it's a blank screen with audio. I tried installing several different drivers, with no success.

Are there any ATI drivers that support Blu-ray, or do I need a nVidia card?

[jldet5]

I have a Sapphire 3650 under Vista x64 SP2 , and with PD 7.3 it's a blank screen with audio. I tried installing several different drivers, with no success.

Are there any ATI drivers that support Blu-ray, or do I need a nVidia card?

ATI cards are quite easy to get working. I'm just guessing it is because you are using x64.

[rdunnill]

ATI cards are quite easy to get working. I'm just guessing it is because you are using x64.I will try your suggestion tonight.

[rdunnill]

ATI cards are quite easy to get working. I'm just guessing it is because you are using x64.
Nope. I spent several hours installing x86, and I get the same green screen.

I don't know what the problem is, but this card is worthless for Blu-ray playback (although it might work for modest gaming).

It's the second junk ATI card I've had the misfortune to buy, with the first being a Powercolor 2400 Pro. Neither one works in my Radeon Xpress 200 under Vista, and neither one accelerates hi-def. I've spent countless hours trying to get these clunkers to work, to no avail.

Can anyone recommend a low-profile 8600?

[tman247]

Nope. I spent several hours installing x86, and I get the same green screen.

I don't know what the problem is, but this card is worthless for Blu-ray playback (although it might work for modest gaming).

It's the second junk ATI card I've had the misfortune to buy, with the first being a Powercolor 2400 Pro. Neither one works in my Radeon Xpress 200 under Vista, and neither one accelerates hi-def. I've spent countless hours trying to get these clunkers to work, to no avail.

Can anyone recommend a low-profile 8600?

Sorry you've had so many problems, but I think that's a bit unfair. Many people use ATI cards in HTPC's and they work brilliantly. Granted, you have to be careful with driver versions (and apply the relevant reg tweaks) but this is the same for NVidia cards. My 2600XT has worked like a charm since I installed it with VMC SP1, playing blu-ray's and hd-dvd's without a glitch.

The 2400Pro was notoriously underpowered (even ATI finally admitted this!) so wasn't the bext choice for a HTPC, but everything from the 2600 up should be fine. Infact ATI GPU's have a better reputation for HTPC use than NVidia cards (cue the flames...), but I hope you have better luck with the NV purchase.

[rdunnill]

Sorry you've had so many problems, but I think that's a bit unfair. Everyone has a definition for unfair. Mine includes buying a brand new video card that doesn't work, even after 12 hours of configuration, while a slightly older card (8500GT) just bolts in and works within minutes. (Yes, I confirmed it tonight.)

[Strayshot]

Everyone has a definition for unfair. Mine includes buying a brand new video card that doesn't work, even after 12 hours of configuration, while a slightly older card (8500GT) just bolts in and works within minutes. (Yes, I confirmed it tonight.)

Of course, I just bolted my 2600XT in and it worked without issue. And this was way back right after they came out, before alot of bugs in PDVD were worked out. Sorry you had alot of problems, but most people don't.

As for Nvidia, there was a thread a while back where someone had the same frustration with them that you had with ATI. It just seems to happen to some people regardless of the hardware.

[Newfi]

With PDVD8 Ultra on Vista 64 I can play DVDs but when I try to play a blu-ray it hangs. When it comes up it has the red screen with all the trademarks of the codecs it supports. If i try to play a blu-ray the center of that red area becomes a black square the hight of the window (or screen if in full screen mode). A message box pops up from the status tray saying that it is changing the windows color settings. and then it is hung. I have to right clink on cyberlink in the status bar and click on close to kill it. The initial release of PDVD8 did not have this problem. I have had this problem ever since one of the first updates. I just tried 1830 and it did not help. If I find some time I will uninstall and try the original release again.

[IanD]

H.264 acceleration is reportedly broken in a few PowerDVD versions.

I understand using the decoder filter from an earlier PowerDVD version will work satisfactorily.

Can anyone tell me which is the latest version of PowerDVD with a functional H.264 decoder? I'm using XP, if that makes any difference.

[Strayshot]

H.264 acceleration is reportedly broken in a few PowerDVD versions.

I understand using the decoder filter from an earlier PowerDVD version will work satisfactorily.

Can anyone tell me which is the latest version of PowerDVD with a functional H.264 decoder? I'm using XP, if that makes any difference.

IIRC, it was the last two patches of 7.3 that had HA broken under XP (4120 and 4102?). Also, I had some problems trying to merely swap out the decoders. I ended up having to modify the directshow index file with the correct CLSID for the filter to be used and then manually unregistering the non-working filter and registering the one I intended to use. BTW, I am using 7.3 build 4120, but I am using the PDVD8 build 1730 h.264 decoder. Works beautifully.

[fraggermcg]

Can anyone tell me where I can download OEM version 7.3 patch 4102a? Can't find it on cyberlink's website any more and the patch I did have for this version just tells me I've got the wrong version installed so assumed that was the non-OEM version patch?

[frg]

Can anyone tell me where I can download OEM version 7.3 patch 4102a? Can't find it on cyberlink's website any more and the patch I did have for this version just tells me I've got the wrong version installed so assumed that was the non-OEM version patch?
It can be found using Google's cached page.

[frg]

Can anyone tell me where I can download OEM version 7.3 patch 4102a? Can't find it on cyberlink's website any more and the patch I did have for this version just tells me I've got the wrong version installed so assumed that was the non-OEM version patch?
Search on:
dl_patch_610_112_ENU

[frg]

Can anyone tell me where I can download OEM version 7.3 patch 4102a? Can't find it on cyberlink's website any more and the patch I did have for this version just tells me I've got the wrong version installed so assumed that was the non-OEM version patch?
It will give you this link:
http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/download/dl_patch_610_112_ENU.html
It is still working.

[Sorry for multi-posting, I needed 3 posts, to be able to mention an HTML link!;)]

[fraggermcg]

Thanks, but pretty sure that's the one I've got. And it says on that link
"For PowerDVD 7 Ultra retail and online purchase versions only. To check the updates for hardware bundled versions, click here for instructions"

Clicking there just tells me to update within the app (which doesn't give me any updates when I try it).

[fraggermcg]

IIRC, it was the last two patches of 7.3 that had HA broken under XP (4120 and 4102?). Also, I had some problems trying to merely swap out the decoders. I ended up having to modify the directshow index file with the correct CLSID for the filter to be used and then manually unregistering the non-working filter and registering the one I intended to use. BTW, I am using 7.3 build 4120, but I am using the PDVD8 build 1730 h.264 decoder. Works beautifully.

Does this mean I really shouldn't be upgrading to the latest 4102a? Without HWA I reckon my x2 4400 is going to struggle!

I was hoping to upgrade as the menus seem to be broken on my current version on eg Batman Begins. Don't know if anyone else has seen this but the movie starts playing straightaway after the legal guff intro, and it won't let me go back to the main menu at any point "top menu not available" I think is the error.

[Strayshot]

Does this mean I really shouldn't be upgrading to the latest 4102a? Without HWA I reckon my x2 4400 is going to struggle!

I was hoping to upgrade as the menus seem to be broken on my current version on eg Batman Begins. Don't know if anyone else has seen this but the movie starts playing straightaway after the legal guff intro, and it won't let me go back to the main menu at any point "top menu not available" I think is the error.

The audio features with the newest patch (4120) are much improved. You can likely do the same trick with the older 7.3 decoders. If the "drop in" doesn't work, grab the DShow index file (or whatever it is called), get the correct CLSID, modify the new index file with the old CLSID, and do the unregister/register swap with the old decoder.

[fraggermcg]

Sorry to repeat my question but is there an OEM version 7.3 patch 4102a? As far as I can tell OEM hasn't been updated since 3730a back in April?

[lakaw]

Sorry to repeat my question but is there an OEM version 7.3 patch 4102a? As far as I can tell OEM hasn't been updated since 3730a back in April?

Yes. Mine updated to that version approx two weeks ago.

[fraggermcg]

Strange, I'm stuck on OEM 3730a and it doesn't offer any updates in the checker and obviously not available on the website anymore. Perhaps I need to play a new release to prompt the update.

[Davinleeds]

That's how mine works, and it threatens you it won't work again if you don't. But each player does.

[HT Slider]

Sorry to repeat my question but is there an OEM version 7.3 patch 4102a? As far as I can tell OEM hasn't been updated since 3730a back in April?

About a month ago I e-mailed Cyberlink tech support because we couln't watch some rental movies. They sent me a link to the OEM version of 4102a and the same movies played fine afterwards.

[HT Slider]

One question for those of you running PowerDVD Ultra 7.3:

Do BD-Live features work with your install?

With our Vista running PowerDVD Ultra install (OEM 4102a), every time I click on the BD-Live features when watching newer BD disks, PDVD pops up with an error message stating it can't connect to the internet and I should check to make sure there is a connection.

HD-DVD online content on the other hand works perfectly; just BD-Live doesn't work.

Is this consistent with what others are seeing?

Shouldn't BD-Live work with PDVD 4102a?

Note this isn't just a single BD-Live disk that doesn't work. We've now watched at least 4 of these and none allow access to BD-Live content.

[fraggermcg]

About a month ago I e-mailed Cyberlink tech support because we couln't watch some rental movies. They sent me a link to the OEM version of 4102a and the same movies played fine afterwards.


Assume the link was unique to you (or if not can you share with me?), but what movies were you trying to play then I'll replicate the request to tech support!

Keen to get this update before it's too late, and in case it's the last one they release.

[HT Slider]

Assume the link was unique to you (or if not can you share with me?), but what movies were you trying to play then I'll replicate the request to tech support!

Keen to get this update before it's too late, and in case it's the last one they release.

The link was a unique one, complete with an expiring username and password. I tried the link a couple of weeks later and it was already gone.

I'm having a mind block right now and can't think of the movie titles. They were mentioned by others in this thread a few pages back though.

One of the movies we just watched that was BD-Live was Vantage Point; although I'm not certain the older versions of PDVD won't play it.

I'm sure Cyberlink won't have any trouble updating you to 4102a (or possibly an even newer OEM version). Just open a support request stating you can't play some of the latest movies and have been told by others that you need to install the latest patch (and it isn't auto installing for some reason).

[TokyoShoe]

I just got Batman: Gotham Knight on Blu-ray, and it won't play at all under PowerDVD... but will under other software. PowerDVD 7.3 v3730 (I think?) locks up completely, never stops reading the disk unless I force end the client or eject the disk.

I can, however play it under some competitor's software.

Anyone know if this more recent patch will cure this issue, or if there is even a solution for it yet?

[Rathbone]

Mine played fine with PowerDVD 8.

Maybe you should try the latest patch 4102 for PDVD 7.3.

[rdunnill]

Of course, I just bolted my 2600XT in and it worked without issue. And this was way back right after they came out, before alot of bugs in PDVD were worked out. Sorry you had alot of problems, but most people don't.Problem solved: I disabled the onboard 6150 video. After that, the 3650 worked with the Foxconn S939 boards without further tinkering, and "Resident Evil 3" plays at 50-70% on a 4000+ single core. (That's my torture test disc.)

If there were a FAQ with this kind of info, it would save a lot of frustration.

[Peter Nagy]

Resident Evil 3 is also my torture test disk. My system uses old socket 478 3GHz P4 (single core), 2 GB RAM, Vista and AGP 3850. This movie always run very close to 100% CPU usage and stutters frequently until PDVD Ultra 8 build 1730 or 1830. Now CPU usage is typically below 50%. It was Cyberlink's bug from the beginning, not wimpy hardware.

I can't say Ultra 8 will work better for you. It works great for many people including myself and really bad for others. I use 2 channel stereo which is probably why I have very little problems.

Peter

[IanD]

I've tried playing back "Twister" and "Lost Boys" Region A Bluray with PowerDVD 7.3.4120 under XP and it plays fine, however there is no menu that I can find.

If I right-click and select the menu option, I only get Top Menu option and popup menu is greyed-out. Top Menu gives me the extras and Resume Film, but no soundtrack setup.

Although I was able to use PowerDVD's audio toggle to flip through the available soundtracks until I got to the desired TrueHD audio, it was not the default and was a pain without a menu.

I'm used to having at least a popup menu to set the required soundtrack and subtitle options, so was surprised at this change.

Does anyone know what causes the lack of setup menu and is there a trick to getting it to appear? Is this a PowerDVD issue or just the way Blurays are authored?

I much preferred the consistent HD-DVD approach of popping up a menu whenever the up arrow was activated, instead of the Bluray random operation.

[Peter Nagy]

I have noticed some Blu-ray movies don't have menus. I know someone with PlayStation 3 and noticed the same thing. It's how the studio made the disks.

Peter

[soyuppy]

Can one of your guru explain this. I'm pretty savvy when it come to software application, but this BR with s/pdif and window direct sounds just has me flabbergasted.

My current mobo has a s/pdif in the back supported by Realtek. I also have an PCI audio card from RME, RME DIGI 9632 to be exact.

Using PowerDVD in WInXP SP3 to play both Blue Ray and SD DVD. PDVD audio option is set to S/PDIF.

1. In the System control panel. Set Sound & Audio to use the RME card.
a. Play SD DVD, sound works fine. My receiver decode DD/DTS accordingly.
b. Play BR DVD, sound does not work. No signal were output to receiver.

2. In the System Control Panel, Set the sound & Audio to use the Realtek on-board sound card.
a. Play SD DVD, sound works fine. My receiver decode DD/DTS accordingly.
b. Play BR DVD, sound works fine, of course I'm only getting DD/DTS through the s/pdif...no TrueHD or DTS-Master, but that's understandable.

But does this mean that P-DVD, when playing BR DVD, cannot output s/pdif audio to an external pci board? That would be odd, as I'm sure many people who has play around with this long enough know that external sound board is far better than on-board one.

[Strayshot]

Can one of your guru explain this. I'm pretty savvy when it come to software application, but this BR with s/pdif and window direct sounds just has me flabbergasted.

My current mobo has a s/pdif in the back supported by Realtek. I also have an PCI audio card from RME, RME DIGI 9632 to be exact.

Using PowerDVD in WInXP SP3 to play both Blue Ray and SD DVD. PDVD audio option is set to S/PDIF.

1. In the System control panel. Set Sound & Audio to use the RME card.
a. Play SD DVD, sound works fine. My receiver decode DD/DTS accordingly.
b. Play BR DVD, sound does not work. No signal were output to receiver.

2. In the System Control Panel, Set the sound & Audio to use the Realtek on-board sound card.
a. Play SD DVD, sound works fine. My receiver decode DD/DTS accordingly.
b. Play BR DVD, sound works fine, of course I'm only getting DD/DTS through the s/pdif...no TrueHD or DTS-Master, but that's understandable.

But does this mean that P-DVD, when playing BR DVD, cannot output s/pdif audio to an external pci board? That would be odd, as I'm sure many people who has play around with this long enough know that external sound board is far better than on-board one.

Have you tried leaving the system set to use the RME card and trying the Blu Ray with the Realtek connected? If it still plays, then it simply means PDVD is ignoring your selection in the system setup.

Also, have you tried actually disabling the Realtek unit in the BIOS?

[rgreenpc]

I tried to wade through all the posts, but I can't find the answer.

I am still using PowerDVD 7 (most current version) and with my 8600GT and Hardware accel on I get stutters during pans... with it off I get smooth pans, but a lot higher cpu useage (still only 30% but still).

Is this something that is a Cyberlink issue, nvidia issue or both?

[prosper0]

this is great thread, thanks, i have an LG combo drive

[IanD]

I am still using PowerDVD 7 (most current version) and with my 8600GT and Hardware accel on I get stutters during pans... with it off I get smooth pans, but a lot higher cpu useage (still only 30% but still).
Firstly, how did you manage to turn off HA with the latest PowerDVD 7.3: it's always activated as far as I can tell?

If you mean you untick HA in the PowerDVD configuration menu before playing a movie, I think you might find that PowerDVD ticks it again but greys the checkbox out during playback. However, it is possible that when HA is unticked by the user, PowerDVD does something different in terms of deinterlacing or IVTC and this is what is causing the stutter that you see.

I have issues with HA activated (blurring and colour shifting), so I try to disable that functionality: the only way I have found to do that is use pre-accelerated drivers for my 8600GT (XP). I've always had better quality results with HA disabled with PowerDVD, at the expense of CPU load and it's always bugged me.

[gtgray]

I have noticed some Blu-ray movies don't have menus. I know someone with PlayStation 3 and noticed the same thing. It's how the studio made the disks.

Peter

Which I curse everytime I come across it. The whole subject of menus and interfaces on BD is abysmal. To me it is a rub in in your face that the wrong format won..

[cy011]

I was hoping you all can help me.
After buying a blu-ray drive and using the BD Advisor program on cyberlink, I am playing 300 and a few other movies. I can't tell if its in 1080p or if it's downscaling it to 480. When I play the move normally it's in a small window that seems to be the size of 480, but when its full screen it looks good... but not what I would expect..

The only way I can find out what video its playing is to use the information in powerdvd... This is telling me its using VC1 and averaging about 12-20Mbps.

Is there another way to verify it's running in true 1080?

Any help you all can give me is much appreciated...

[jldet5]

I was hoping you all can help me.
After buying a blu-ray drive and using the BD Advisor program on cyberlink, I am playing 300 and a few other movies. I can't tell if its in 1080p or if it's downscaling it to 480. When I play the move normally it's in a small window that seems to be the size of 480, but when its full screen it looks good... but not what I would expect..

The only way I can find out what video its playing is to use the information in powerdvd... This is telling me its using VC1 and averaging about 12-20Mbps.

Is there another way to verify it's running in true 1080?

Any help you all can give me is much appreciated...

I think it is all based on your current desktop settings. I use powerstrip to flip the setting to 1080i.

[cy011]

My desktop is running at 1080p. I have a HDCP connection. I read on another forum that they have yet to implement downscaling... Does anyone have confirmation of this?

[jldet5]

My desktop is running at 1080p. I have a HDCP connection. I read on another forum that they have yet to implement downscaling... Does anyone have confirmation of this?

You could try AnyDVD HD. I remember something about Vista a ways back, I'm using XP, but I haven't seen anyone else complain.

[Paul Bigelow]

Where does one download patch 4120?

[IanD]

Is there another way to verify it's running in true 1080?
IIRC, there was a file posted on the forum quite a long while ago (hdtestpatterns.zip 115MB), which contained a simple 1080p test pattern of alternating 1 pixel wide black and white lines: if you could see the individual lines with PowerDVD, then it was providing 1080 output, but if it was just a uniform grey image, then downsampling was occurring. Unfortunately I don't remember where this file was located now, but if you can't find it I guess I could upload it to rapidshare or sendspace.

Such a test pattern is probably the only way you can tell what PowerDVD is doing on your system, but if you have an HDCP compliant path, then PowerDVD has no reason to downsample.

What makes you think you aren't getting 1080 output?

[redjr]

I was hoping you all can help me.
After buying a blu-ray drive and using the BD Advisor program on cyberlink, I am playing 300 and a few other movies. I can't tell if its in 1080p or if it's downscaling it to 480. When I play the move normally it's in a small window that seems to be the size of 480, but when its full screen it looks good... but not what I would expect..

The only way I can find out what video its playing is to use the information in powerdvd... This is telling me its using VC1 and averaging about 12-20Mbps.

Is there another way to verify it's running in true 1080?

Any help you all can give me is much appreciated...

What video card are you using? Use the graphic control applet that installs with the driver to set the resolution for your desktop. IIRC I believe there is also a place/tab in the nVidia applet to set the resolution preference for HD playback - 720p or 1080p. Check there first.

[Strayshot]

Where does one download patch 4120?

I think I (and someone else) made a typo. I think the last patch was 4102. It is still available, although you have to hunt down the link for it.

[cy011]

What makes you think you aren't getting 1080 output?

I tried watching 300 and I wasn't blown away by the quality. I know that movie has some kind of grainy effect on it, so I tried Batman Begins and I think it looked a lot better. I have other HD media acquired by other means and I seriously think h264 looks better.



What video card are you using? Use the graphic control applet that installs with the driver to set the resolution for your desktop. IIRC I believe there is also a place/tab in the nVidia applet to set the resolution preference for HD playback - 720p or 1080p. Check there first.

I believe in the HDTV area it's set to 1080p. I think there may be a seperate area for playback... so I'll check that, thanks for the idea.

[JACZML120]

One question for those of you running PowerDVD Ultra 7.3:

Do BD-Live features work with your install?

With our Vista running PowerDVD Ultra install (OEM 4102a), every time I click on the BD-Live features when watching newer BD disks, PDVD pops up with an error message stating it can't connect to the internet and I should check to make sure there is a connection.

HD-DVD online content on the other hand works perfectly; just BD-Live doesn't work.

Is this consistent with what others are seeing?

Shouldn't BD-Live work with PDVD 4102a?

Note this isn't just a single BD-Live disk that doesn't work. We've now watched at least 4 of these and none allow access to BD-Live content.

Apparently BD-Live started working with PDVD Ultra 7.3 with version 3730d which was released 4/24/08

http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/download/dl_patch_601_112_ENU.html

[HT Slider]

Apparently BD-Live started working with PDVD Ultra 7.3 with version 3730d which was released 4/24/08

http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/download/dl_patch_601_112_ENU.html

I'm running 4102a, so I would think it should also support BD-Live then.

When you said "Apparently"; does that mean you personally own Bluray movies and have tried the on-line BD-Live features and found they work?

Note that I seem to be able to play absolutely all movies, including the latest BD-Live ones with 4102a. What I can't do is go into the special features on the disc (within PDVD) and access the downloadable BD-Live content. BD-Live is supposed to download additional content from the internet (videos, trailers, games, etc.), but with my system I always end up with the error message.

Interestingly all of the HD-DVD on-line content works fine (downloading from the Internet), so I know the problem isn't that PowerDVD can't get to the Internet.

[JACZML120]

I'm running 4102a, so I would think it should also support BD-Live then.

When you said "Apparently"; does that mean you personally own Bluray movies and have tried the on-line BD-Live features and found they work?

Note that I seem to be able to play absolutely all movies, including the latest BD-Live ones with 4102a. What I can't do is go into the special features on the disc (within PDVD) and access the downloadable BD-Live content. BD-Live is supposed to download additional content from the internet (videos, trailers, games, etc.), but with my system I always end up with the error message.

Interestingly all of the HD-DVD on-line content works fine (downloading from the Internet), so I know the problem isn't that PowerDVD can't get to the Internet.

Exact opposite. I have not verified personally, but apparently according to the Cyberlink site 3730d update for PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra included BD-Live capabilities.

I would open up a support case with Cyberlink and see what they say about the error or have you tried Google?

Which BD-Live title are you trying? I may go purchase my first Blu-ray tonight (or possibly just rent) If you have a title I'm interested in perhaps I could pick it up and confirm it one way or the other.

[IanD]

I tried watching 300 and I wasn't blown away by the quality. I know that movie has some kind of grainy effect on it, so I tried Batman Begins and I think it looked a lot better. I have other HD media acquired by other means and I seriously think h264 looks better.
It depends on your criteria for quality: 300 and Batman Begins, whilst excellent, aren't in the reference category (300 is artificially grainy and Batman Begins looks a bit soft). Have a look through the HD-DVD and Bluray software sections for the ranking threads, choose a reference title and try watching that.

In practice, there is less influence by the codec used (H.264 or VC-1) than in the master or transfer used and any filtering applied. Unfortunately one can't generalise and you have to go on a case by case basis.

[pqcanada]

Had to contact cyberlink for the latest LG oem patch 4102b. If it wasn't for avsforum, I still be on 3730a.

Guess I should just pay up for the full version 8.

[JACZML120]

Had to contact cyberlink for the latest LG oem patch 4102b. If it wasn't for avsforum, I still be on 3730a.

Guess I should just pay up for the full version 8.

I'm going to hold out for as long as I can, I'm still pissed that they tore out HD DVD support. 7.3 Ultra for me for the foreseeable future.

[bondisdead]

I'm going to hold out for as long as I can, I'm still pissed that they tore out HD DVD support. 7.3 Ultra for me for the foreseeable future.

Several things are keeping me at 7.3. First off, I don't want to give them any more of my money, when it appears they still have many issues. I have the last version that supports playing from a File, versus just a disc. And lastly, I also want support for the handful of HD-DVDs that I own and/or have ripped.

I don't recall reading about a workaround for being able to play from a file, but perhaps someone can shed a light on this. Does the version 8.x support this (which they took away after 7.3). The only thing frustrating is that I am uncovering more and more discs that PowerDVD just won't play. I rent them from blockbuster, but no-go. Probably need to update to a later version of 7.x, but I cannot lose file playback!

[mpgxsvcd]

Several things are keeping me at 7.3. First off, I don't want to give them any more of my money, when it appears they still have many issues. I have the last version that supports playing from a File, versus just a disc. And lastly, I also want support for the handful of HD-DVDs that I own and/or have ripped.

I don't recall reading about a workaround for being able to play from a file, but perhaps someone can shed a light on this. Does the version 8.x support this (which they took away after 7.3). The only thing frustrating is that I am uncovering more and more discs that PowerDVD just won't play. I rent them from blockbuster, but no-go. Probably need to update to a later version of 7.x, but I cannot lose file playback!

PDVD 8 will play from .iso Blu-ray images. However, it will not play HD-DVDs consistently with the latest software version.

This is not the case anymore. HD-DVDs are playing just fine with the latest PDVD update for me now!

[pqcanada]

I'm probably late but only just noticed in LG 4102b, the icon for dts-HD Master Audio is there but don't have any of those discs though.

[tsb]

just curious - have you guys tried tmt?

I used to prefer pdvd, mostly because tmt didn't run on my PC

but now it's fixed and it plays everything, files, folders, isos, disks........

give it another try if you gave up on it before

[bondisdead]

Apparently BD-Live started working with PDVD Ultra 7.3 with version 3730d which was released 4/24/08

http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/download/dl_patch_601_112_ENU.html

Does that version support playing back from File/Folders?

[gsr]

just curious - have you guys tried tmt?

I used to prefer pdvd, mostly because tmt didn't run on my PC

but now it's fixed and it plays everything, files, folders, isos, disks........

give it another try if you gave up on it before
TMT has problems though too - such as minor little things like keyboard commands not working.

[curtisb]

Simply playing the numbers game with the URL for the downloads (taking the 610 from ...dl_patch_610_112_ENU.html and counting up until it became a invalid url) revealed a PowerDVD 7 update from 8-24-08. Version is 4407 (cyberlink.4407_ultra_r1_dvd080818-02.exe)

http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/download/dl_patch_624_112_ENU.html

Very irritating that they hide these but I'm glad they are still making updates and aren't trying hard to hide them.

*Edit* - Installed it and the Version is 7.3.4407.0. My problem disk, Ratatouille, now works without a hitch (never have been able to get to the menu as PowerDVD has always locked up on me while trying to load it, putting one of my 4 cores at 100%)
And most importantly, there is an advertisement in the 'about' area for an amazing "Exclusive Offer' for a whopping 5% off to upgrade to PowerDVD8!! Those guys sure know how to entice existing customers! :)

[Strayshot]

Good find! And it just came out yesterday! I wonder if this fixed the AVC/DXVA decoding issue in WinXP?

[Laserfan]

Good find! And it just came out yesterday! I wonder if this fixed the AVC/DXVA decoding issue in WinXP?Also, can someone confirm that the "Open media files" option is still missing. Yes I'm still running 3319a here.

[pqcanada]

Great great find curtisb!

[Strayshot]

And yes, it did fix the AVC/DXVA decoding issue in XP. S, seeing as how a new patch was just issued for 8.0, it looks like they took the smae updates and applied them to 7.3. Cyberlink actually did something cool.

[JACZML120]

Does that version support playing back from File/Folders?

I dont think so, but it is so easy to make an iso file what is the big deal? Also latest AnyDVD HD supports creating isos on the fly now....

[JACZML120]

I have 7.3 ultra and the updated version post above, and I can confirm that there is now a BD-Live logo on the splash screen in PDVD however, when selecting BD-Live on Prom Night Blu-ray, I get a spinning icon, the screen goes black and nothing. Hitting stop gets me back to the splash screen. Can anyone confirm BD-Live features work with 7.3? The Cyberlink release notes say it should work plus there is an icon on the splash screen.

Thx

JAC

[IanD]

I upgraded to the latest PowerDVD 7.3.4407 linked above, but all audio output via my mobo analogue audio is substantially quieter than the previous 4102, especially TrueHD.

Have gone back to 4102 and all is well.

With 4102, a comfortable listening level on my amp has been a setting of 25, but with 4407 cranking it up to a setting of 15 still didn't provide the same level and began to introduce distortion.

Cyberlink are really becoming a pain.

[ymarker]

Simply playing the numbers game with the URL for the downloads (taking the 610 from ...dl_patch_610_112_ENU.html and counting up until it became a invalid url) revealed a PowerDVD 7 update from 8-24-08. Version is 4407 (cyberlink.4407_ultra_r1_dvd080818-02.exe)

http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/download/dl_patch_624_112_ENU.html

Very irritating that they hide these but I'm glad they are still making updates and aren't trying hard to hide them.

*Edit* - Installed it and the Version is 7.3.4407.0. My problem disk, Ratatouille, now works without a hitch (never have been able to get to the menu as PowerDVD has always locked up on me while trying to load it, putting one of my 4 cores at 100%)
And most importantly, there is an advertisement in the 'about' area for an amazing "Exclusive Offer' for a whopping 5% off to upgrade to PowerDVD8!! Those guys sure know how to entice existing customers! :)

Didn't really need to play any number game. They tell you on the main download page where you can download it from:

http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/download/updates_1_ENU.html

Look under the free downloads for 7.0:

2008-08-25 PowerDVD 7 Ultra Updates: This update file updates PowerDVD 7 Ultra to PowerDVD 7 Ultra build 4407. For PowerDVD retail and online purchase versions only. To check the updates for hardware bundled versions, click here for instructions.

[JACZML120]

I upgraded to the latest PowerDVD 7.3.4407 linked above, but all audio output via my mobo analogue audio is substantially quieter than the previous 4102, especially TrueHD.

Have gone back to 4102 and all is well.

With 4102, a comfortable listening level on my amp has been a setting of 25, but with 4407 cranking it up to a setting of 15 still didn't provide the same level and began to introduce distortion.

Cyberlink are really becoming a pain.

Im using Analog off of a creative sound card and there has been no issues like that for me. Did you check the speaker settings in PDVD to make sure they were still set to quiet?

[JACZML120]

Just a quick question, how can you tell the build number in PDVD? The help about only seems to show 7.3 Ultra.

thx

[JohnHWman]

Build 4407 is working very nice on my G35, especially with the new Intel Video graphics driver version 15.11.0.1537. So far, had no issues on HD-DVD or BRD disks playback.

John

[MoNkLorD]

has anyone figured out how to disable the annoying registration nag? I tryed to search this post but i didn't not find a solution.

sorry, i know this must have been asked a few times already.


windows vista 32bit
power dvd 8 ver 8.00.1728


TIA

[Beefcake]

yeah, it's called register a "fun" name

My Favorite:
F. Name - Some
L. Name - One
email - someone@somewhere.com
:)

[MoNkLorD]

yeah, it's called register a "fun" name

My Favorite:
F. Name - Some
L. Name - One
email - someone@somewhere.com
:)

perhaps i didn't want to register my product, maybe i do not like to receive crap in my emails

every other product that i can think of that i have own always allowed me the right to register now, register later, or do not show this message again.

I prefer the latter

[kapone]

I usually do:

First name: STOP.BUGGING.ME
Last name: WITH.THIS.STUPID.REGISTRATION
email: achang@cyberlink.com (Alice Chang is the CEO of Cyberlink, I alternate the email IDs every now and then, changa@cyberlink.com, a.chang@cyberlink.com, alice.chang@cyberlink.com etc) I don't know if it actually reaches them or not, but it's fun! :)

[MoNkLorD]

Beefcake, Kapone - you guys are serious lol
just fill it out with whatever and it dos go away. NICE
i will give it a shot

achang@cyberlink.com it is then ;)

[kapone]

I hate it when software companies design something that's "in your face". That's just bad software design, and as a designer myself, it makes me very very pissed off. Hence my silent retaliation. :)

[firedawg24]

When I select "Show Information" it no longer shows any info. It used to just fine but it has stopped, I cannot say when this happened but its been a few months. ersion 7.3 if that helps.

[MoNkLorD]

I hate it when software companies design something that's "in your face". That's just bad software design, and as a designer myself, it makes me very very pissed off. Hence my silent retaliation. :)
I would have never of guessed that you were a software designer. From your server thread i would have sworn you were in the storage business

[kapone]

I would have never of guessed that you were a software designer. From your server thread i would have sworn you were in the storage business

I'm a software designer that turned into the business of selling storage systems. :) My company is still working on a few stealth software projects that "should" :o come to fruition soon...

[jldet5]

Just a quick question, how can you tell the build number in PDVD? The help about only seems to show 7.3 Ultra.

thx

click on the second text box in the about screen

[jldet5]

I usually do:

First name: STOP.BUGGING.ME
Last name: WITH.THIS.STUPID.REGISTRATION
email: achang@cyberlink.com (Alice Chang is the CEO of Cyberlink, I alternate the email IDs every now and then, changa@cyberlink.com, a.chang@cyberlink.com, alice.chang@cyberlink.com etc) I don't know if it actually reaches them or not, but it's fun! :)

I did something like this but not near this creative. Love it!

[JACZML120]

click on the second text box in the about screen

Thanks!

[ohw3ll]

Just go to C:/program files/cyberlink/powerdvd/OLRSubmission/ and change OLRStatecheck.exe to OLRStatecheck.old

[IanD]

Im using Analog off of a creative sound card and there has been no issues like that for me. Did you check the speaker settings in PDVD to make sure they were still set to quiet?
No apparent changes to the audio settings when going from one to the other, but the sound levels from the onboard Realtek ALC889 change drastically.

I'm not surprised as I expect Cyberlink are futzing around with protected audio support and no doubt will create issues elsewhere.

Edit: upgraded video drivers and swapped back to PDVD 7.3.4407 after rebooting process and now audio levels are equivalent to what they were with 4102. How can that be when nothing else has changed?

[curtisb]

Didn't really need to play any number game. They tell you on the main download page where you can download it from:

http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/download/updates_1_ENU.html

Look under the free downloads for 7.0:

2008-08-25 PowerDVD 7 Ultra Updates: This update file updates PowerDVD 7 Ultra to PowerDVD 7 Ultra build 4407. For PowerDVD retail and online purchase versions only. To check the updates for hardware bundled versions, click here for instructions.

Very good, glad they are making it public. I happen to find it the day it was released and they didn't have anything up on the site yet for 7.
Thanks for the update!

[fraggermcg]

Has anyone been able to get 4407 for 7.3 OEM edition? When I try to auto download within the app it tells me no updates are available.

Oh and was the dxva issue in xp just that it kept turning it back on if you tried to turn it off, or something else?

[B Leisle]

you guys with the audio/studdeding problems: I had the same thing a while ago - make sure if you are using SPDIF to set PowerrDvd to SPDIF *before* putting in a disc.

Then make sure you have the newest audio drivers. I have a different audio card, but i had to set the output in the audio setup (inside your card setup and in the normal Vista sound output setup) to "passthrough" and "let applications take exclusive control."

Now I get DolbyD and DTS perfectly and discs play perfectly (the audio was the cause of the unwatchable framerate too.) (btw my information tab read exactly the tab; once I got the last line (digital output (in use) [only while playing])

Btw I will stake any bets on this now: build 4102 *is* HW Accel AVC discs! In fact my CPU a reading lower than on any other versions (I'm around 15%, which is much lower than what I was seeng on 3730d (30%) and 3730a (22% or so))

I have this same problem with some discs, but it's only on those Blu-ray movies with only a TrueHD track and no DD track. Blu-ray's with DTS or DD tracks play fine with CPU utilization somewhere between 20 and 50%. When watching There Will Be Blood, which only has a TrueHD English track, the CPU is pegged at 90-95% and while the movie is somewhat watchable, there's very slight stuttering and the audio constantly cutting in and out giving it an almost static interference sound. When I select the French DD track, CPU returns to about 50% and the movie plays fine. While playing the TrueHD track, PowerDVD shows it as 2 channel (because of S/PDIF bandwidth limitation), but shouldn't it still play ok? I also thought TrueHD contained a DD core like DTS HD MA holds a DTS core track, is that not the case? My Batman Begins HD DVD automatically selects the DD track, but it appears to be a separate track from the TrueHD.

I use the S/PDIF built into the mobo (s939 DFI RS482) and have Vista 32 and the Realtek 880 and have selected the "let the application take control" option in the device. I don't have the passthrough option in the Realtek driver in Vista (or I don't know where it is) like I used to have in XP.

[B Leisle]

I have this same problem with some discs, but it's only on those Blu-ray movies with only a TrueHD track and no DD track. Blu-ray's with DTS or DD tracks play fine with CPU utilization somewhere between 20 and 50%. When watching There Will Be Blood, which only has a TrueHD English track, the CPU is pegged at 90-95% and while the movie is somewhat watchable, there's very slight stuttering and the audio constantly cutting in and out giving it an almost static interference sound. When I select the French DD track, CPU returns to about 50% and the movie plays fine. While playing the TrueHD track, PowerDVD shows it as 2 channel (because of S/PDIF bandwidth limitation), but shouldn't it still play ok? I also thought TrueHD contained a DD core like DTS HD MA holds a DTS core track, is that not the case? My Batman Begins HD DVD automatically selects the DD track, but it appears to be a separate track from the TrueHD.

I use the S/PDIF built into the mobo (s939 DFI RS482) and have Vista 32 and the Realtek 880 and have selected the "let the application take control" option in the device. I don't have the passthrough option in the Realtek driver in Vista (or I don't know where it is) like I used to have in XP.

Eeeh, nevermind. I downloaded the TMT trial just now and everything plays fine. I'm sick of Cyberlink's garbage and going to use TMT, hopefully it won't turn into a grass is greener on the other side scenario down the road.

[pqcanada]

Has anyone been able to get 4407 for 7.3 OEM edition? When I try to auto download within the app it tells me no updates are available.

No update for me either. I'm going to wait a bit before I contact cyberlink support again.

[IanD]

I also thought TrueHD contained a DD core like DTS HD MA holds a DTS core track, is that not the case? My Batman Begins HD DVD automatically selects the DD track, but it appears to be a separate track from the TrueHD.
IIRC, Bluray titles with TrueHD soundtracks also include an AC3 soundtrack embedded in the TrueHD; however HD-DVD titles with TrueHD soundtracks don't do this embedding and keep any AC3 soundtrack separate.

TrueHD soundtracks by default don't include an AC3 core: it's something unusual done by the Bluray camp.

The 100% CPU issue with embedded AC3/TrueHD soundtracks is probably because Cyberlink don't yet handle it correctly (maybe attempt to decode both simultaneously).

[audioAl1]

Halelou ah!!!

[steven975]

I have 7.3 ultra and the update didn't solve my issues.

I was on 4102 and movies that are non-supported just showed black. Now those movies crash PowerDVD, but I can still watch the ones I could before.

Before buying Ultra, I had an OEM version of 7.3 for BD only that played everything I threw at it, so I know the 7.3 can do these titles. I bought the Ultra version for HD-DVD support.

[B Leisle]

IIRC, Bluray titles with TrueHD soundtracks also include an AC3 soundtrack embedded in the TrueHD; however HD-DVD titles with TrueHD soundtracks don't do this embedding and keep any AC3 soundtrack separate.

TrueHD soundtracks by default don't include an AC3 core: it's something unusual done by the Bluray camp.


Hmmm, interesting, There Will Be Blood is a Blu-ray title, but no DD/AC3 track seems to be there.


The 100% CPU issue with embedded AC3/TrueHD soundtracks is probably because Cyberlink don't yet handle it correctly (maybe attempt to decode both simultaneously).

You could be right. Oh well, TMT plays everything perfectly, so I'm pretty happy now.

[IanD]

Hmmm, interesting, There Will Be Blood is a Blu-ray title, but no DD/AC3 track seems to be there.
I think it's invisible and only accessed if the player doesn't support TrueHD playback.

Eac3to will extract an embedded AC3 soundtrack from a Bluray TrueHD soundtrack I believe.

[daMaster]

Anyone notice improved picture quality with 4407? Members on another forum are stating that this build brings picture quality up to par with PowerDVD 8.

I haven't tried the update yet, but will do soon and post my results.

[JACZML120]

Anyone notice improved picture quality with 4407? Members on another forum are stating that this build brings picture quality up to par with PowerDVD 8.

I haven't tried the update yet, but will do soon and post my results.

Wow! that would be cool if it proves to be true.

[cameronl]

hi, after installing the latest patch (end of august one) I can no longer read ANY blu-ray movies with my pioneer drive.

Has anyone else had this problem and if so - how did you fix it?

I would rollback the patch to the last version but I'm not sure where it is (I have no patches listed in the member area).

thanks

CaM

[AngelEyes]

hi, after installing the latest patch (end of august one) I can no longer read ANY blu-ray movies with my pioneer drive.

Has anyone else had this problem and if so - how did you fix it?

I would rollback the patch to the last version but I'm not sure where it is (I have no patches listed in the member area).

thanks

CaM

The latest PDVD8 patch is broken. It has been removed form their site and the previous working version is back up there now.

Adam

[JohnHWman]

PDVD 7.3 Ultra Build 4407 patch is still available in my country : http://fr.cyberlink.com/multi/download/updates_112_FRA.html

I'm using it for 2 weeks now and play fine blu-ray discs.

John

[cameronl]

hi, thanks for the link.

I changed the FRA to ENG and can now download the older patch.

thanks

CaM

PDVD 7.3 Ultra Build 4407 patch is still available in my country : http://fr.cyberlink.com/multi/download/updates_112_FRA.html

I'm using it for 2 weeks now and play fine blu-ray discs.

John

[Megalith]

Is there a reason why PowerDVD won't let me turn off hardware acceleration? No matter what settings I fiddle with in both PowerDVD and the Nvidia panel, it checks back on upon playback.

Also, how can you tell if DTS-HD MA is being decoded? I just get "DTS" while playing back a MA track.

[TommyV]

I am having a very annoying issue with my PowerDVD Ultra 7. I got this software way back before I even had a HD drive. Now when I open it, it says that I need to update the software. I download the update and when I open and try to install the update, it will start setting up the Install Wizard and then it just times out. When I try to uninstall the old version, it will not uninstall. This is very frustrating. Anyone have a suggestion?

[UnitedBreaks]

IIRC, Bluray titles with TrueHD soundtracks also include an AC3 soundtrack embedded in the TrueHD; however HD-DVD titles with TrueHD soundtracks don't do this embedding and keep any AC3 soundtrack separate.

TrueHD soundtracks by default don't include an AC3 core: it's something unusual done by the Bluray camp.

The 100% CPU issue with embedded AC3/TrueHD soundtracks is probably because Cyberlink don't yet handle it correctly (maybe attempt to decode both simultaneously).

Not all BRD includes an AC3 soundtrack based on my first test movie "Transformers".

The menu came up in DD and the beginning (guy fishing on the moon). I checked the audio settings in the DVD and only "TrueHD" was available.

I played the movie and A/V reciever doesn't switch to DD, it stays at Pro Logic.

So, I tweaked, config'd for hours and no fix. I then went out to buy a 2nd BRD movie "Rambo" and DD works fine in menus and DTS works fine during movie.

To my findings (unless there is a patch for Transformers) .. Some BRD movies have the option for AC3 and some don't.

[fraggermcg]

Still no update for OEM users?

[John P]

Still no update for OEM users?

Cyberlink has apparently taken the approach that unless you buy the full retail or online version you do not get updates. Also buyers of version upgrades do not even get the full product or updates. Their support policys stink. Too bad they are the only game in town for Blu-ray, I would quickly go elsewhere. They seem to enjoy sticking to everyone they can.

[AbMagFab]

Cyberlink has apparently taken the approach that unless you buy the full retail or online version you do not get updates. Also buyers of version upgrades do not even get the full product or updates. Their support policys stink. Too bad they are the only game in town for Blu-ray, I would quickly go elsewhere. They seem to enjoy sticking to everyone they can.

Not the only game in town.

ArcSoft TMT is considered by many to be superior to PDVD, and far less bloated.

[gsr]

Not the only game in town.

ArcSoft TMT is considered by many to be superior to PDVD, and far less bloated.
If ArcSoft would fix a few basic problems, such as getting the documented (in the help file) keyboard shortcuts to actually work, I would pretty much agree.

[RichB]

Not the only game in town.

ArcSoft TMT is considered by many to be superior to PDVD, and far less bloated.

If ArcSoft would fix a few basic problems, such as getting the documented (in the help file) keyboard shortcuts to actually work, I would pretty much agree.

If Arcsoft would fully support ATI cards, I would agree too.
They fail all HQV tests when PowerDVD passes them all.

- Rich

[AbMagFab]

If Arcsoft would fully support ATI cards, I would agree too.
They fail all HQV tests when PowerDVD passes them all.

- Rich

And have you actually watched them both? HQV tests are sketchy, and put out by a company with a vested interest in you buying something to solve the same problem. Be careful paying too much attention to someone who says "use this thing I made to show you how your picture stinks in these specific ways - then go buy my video processor product and it will be perfect!".

In any case, watching 1080p content with TMT, IMO, is far more pleasurably on my 50", 60" and my 110" than watching the same content with PDVD.

(And the keyboard shortcuts are mostly working fine, but it is a pain.)

[gsr]

(And the keyboard shortcuts are mostly working fine, but it is a pain.)
This really isn't the thread to get into a long discussion on this topic, but the keyboard shortcuts are NOT mostly working fine unless the latest beta release has fixed them. Basic stuff like fast forward and rewind shortcuts are not working. Even Cyberlink has gotten this right (except for the crazy different mappings they did for HD-DVD).

[AbMagFab]

This really isn't the thread to get into a long discussion on this topic, but the keyboard shortcuts are NOT mostly working fine unless the latest beta release has fixed them. Basic stuff like fast forward and rewind shortcuts are not working. Even Cyberlink has gotten this right (except for the crazy different mappings they did for HD-DVD).

Everything but skipping chapters works fine for me, and has been for many releases, and I'm going through a universal remote. And skipping chapters is easily accomplished through the pop-up menus.

Perhaps you have some other problems? Not sure where you get the global statement that they aren't working fine, as they mostly are for at least some of us, if not most of us.

[gsr]

Everything but skipping chapters works fine for me, and has been for many releases, and I'm going through a universal remote. And skipping chapters is easily accomplished through the pop-up menus.

Perhaps you have some other problems? Not sure where you get the global statement that they aren't working fine, as they mostly are for at least some of us, if not most of us.
I'm not the only one experiencing the problem as can be seen by reading the TMT thread on AVS or looking at discussions on the ArcSoft forum.

I'm using both an Interlink VersaPoint USB keyboard that works perfectly fine with every other application on the PC, including Notepad, TheaterTek, BeyondTV, PowerDVD, etc. I'm also using a Crestron ST-MK mouse and keyboard wedge which connects to the PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports and also works fine with every other application on the computer. This is a dedicated HTPC, so it doesn't have lots of garbage apps installed - only what is needed to accomplish the HTPC duties.

I'm not making a global statement any more than you are. The fact is that the keyboard shortcuts are not 100% working.

What exactly is your universal remote setup? Unless it's ultimately going to the PS/2 ports or feeding the IR receiver for an IR keyboard, I would argue that you aren't actually using keyboard shortcuts, but rather their remote control interface which most definitely goes through at least a slightly different code path.

Overall, I like TMT better than PowerDVD. However, I'm not going to ignore the fact that it isn't perfect either.

[Davinleeds]

Neither are 100% Nor will they be.

[zr600]

No 64 bit support in TMT!!!!!!

[Davinleeds]

Some do.

[marmot74]

TMT has issues with ATI and it's Hardware Acceleration. Basically it causes stuttering which is unwatchable. But if you have a powerful enough processor to run it without it then it runs pretty decently. Also there is an issue with ATI cards running 24hz. The same stuttering occurs with HA on OR off.

If they fix these problems I would use it exclusively. Not holding my breath.

[scat2002]

For PowerDVD 8 Ultra
Could someone post the keyboard shortcuts for skip forward, skip backward, fast forward, fast rewind?

For HD and Bluray if they are different.

Thanks
Scat

[deandob]

Scat, I have the same question - I can't find the keyboard shortcuts written up anywhere.

I would love to map the Media Center media keys to PowerDVD functions if possible, and the only way I can see doing it would be to write a custom application that captures & remaps keys only when PDVD is active.

[Mr.D]

TMT has issues with ATI and it's Hardware Acceleration. Basically it causes stuttering which is unwatchable. But if you have a powerful enough processor to run it without it then it runs pretty decently. Also there is an issue with ATI cards running 24hz. The same stuttering occurs with HA on OR off.

If they fix these problems I would use it exclusively. Not holding my breath.

I can get smooth 23.976 playback on my HD3870. What I get though is slight lipsync with BD. HDDVD is ironically enough absolutely fine. ( was watching Star Trek TOS) and the lipsync was fine : start trek is great at 23.976 1080p by the way!

Hardware acceleration sometimes works : seems to be fine with mpeg2 and AVC but struggles with VC1 although sometimes its fine ( again especially with HDDVD).

I tend not to use hardware acceleration : when it works at 23.976 it has massively worse lipsync issues than software anyway. I have come across one or two BDs that just don't play well without hardware acceleration ( the signal is one).

[markm75]

I currently still have PowerDVD ultra version 7.3..

Is there a way to browse to the folder where a Bluray movie is stored on the harddrive and have powerdvd play the movie..

So far all i can seem to do is right click say an m2ts file in the folder.. but for a full fledged movie.. this is impractical..

Does version 8 allow for this?

(can it also play back iso's without the need for extraction)?

Thanks

[originalsnuffy]

I think most people are using the freeware that lets you mount virtual disks with PowerDVD. I have a hacked up 7.3 that still runs off the hard disc...but at some point I am likely to break it and then I'll go to the virtual disk route.

In general I do not like to have too many non Microsoft utilities that address the file or disk system..I end up with unanticipated technical issues. The worst offender was a utility for a Netgear SAN disk that literally wiped out my hard drive (causing a full system restore). But I worry a bit about utilities to enable EXT3 also.

[Nimo]

IM plays in 3104a with no issues and it doesn't need anyd to bad it looks like crap.

[rg_himself]

I have a PC with a BD/HD-DVD combo drive that came bundled with PowerDVD.

At the end of March, I purchased DVD Suite 6 Ultra, because my OEM copy would not play the Bluray Independence Day disc. After that purchase, I could play the movie.

This weekend, I purchased the Bluray Sex And The City disc, and I was not able to play the disc. A search around the web found at least 2 oter users who had the same problem, and a suggestion that PDVD 8 was the only way to get the disc to play. Before buying the upgrade, I looked for a software update for v7 which might allow me to play the SATC movie. No luck, so I paid $90 for v8, which allowed me to watch the SATC disc.

OK, so that's $215 in 6 months just to be able to play the latest BD releases. I knew that being on the bleeding edge and making an HTPC the center of my HD entertainment system wouldn't be cheap or smooth sailing.

Here's the killer:

Last night, a friend came over to watch my Beowulf HDDVD with me, and I was horrified to learn that HDDVD support was dropped in PDVD8. Not only that, but I had to search around on the Cyberlink site to find a page that explains that to retain HDDVD support, I should have kept my old version of PDVD installed AND bought the full version of v8 (maintaining side by side installs). If I had know this in the first place (or had been presented with any sort of warning before purchasing the upgrade), I would have bought the full version and kept a dual install!

I'm steaming over this situation, and waiting for a response from Cyberlink to see if I can get a copy of v7 (since my old download link has expired).

UGH!!!


10/2/08 UPDATE:

I got a reply from Cyberlink support telling me to repurchase PDVD7, and they provided a purchase link. I almost soiled myself. I immediately took the matter into my own hands and am happy once again. I appreciate their product/s, but their upgrade policies and customer service have caused them to lose my loyalty.

[pqcanada]

Just got cyberlink reply. 4102b is still the newest update for the LG oem powerdvd 7 so no 4407 love yet.

[JustABDFan]

Just got cyberlink reply. 4102b is still the newest update for the LG oem powerdvd 7 so no 4407 love yet.

There's a new update dated 9/30 on the PowerDVD Ultra software update page. brings the oem up to 4407 build just like the retail version. check the audio support maybe they got lazy and forgot to make it 2 channel audio only.

[pqcanada]

Thanks JustABDFan! And Cyberlink too for putting the updates back on the website.

EDIT. Something did change. Inside the this product is licensed to, it has Audio Output Capability 8 and Audio Decoder Capability 6. I could have sworn it was 8 and 2 before. And the time stamp blue area, it is scrolling PowerDVD BD+HD 6CH intead of 2CH.

Also see a BD-LIVE icon which I think wasn't there before.

[RaginCajun92]

I have an LG GGW-H20LK Combo Drive that I just purchased from NewEgg. One side note is the LG Firmare utility recognizes this as a GGW-H20L. Not sure of the difference.

Anyway, I am having some playback issues with these BD movies (there may be other movie issues but these are the ones I've tried today):

Nightmare Before Xmas: Loads fine but the main menu displays no text where Play, Settings, Bonus Features, etc should appear. There is a placeholder where this text should appear. Can't use keyboard to highlight these areas thus I can't get into the movie itself.

Nim's Island: BD boots to a screen saying a firmware upgrade is needed. I have the latest firmware flashed (YL04). Movie will not play.

Love Guru: BD boots fine to the main menu however when you select a scene or PLAY, the disc locks up and no playback is ever achieved.

Iron Man: Before the firmware update on the LG drive, the round blue Iron Man logo would appear and then crap out. After the firmware update nothing happens at all, just a black screen and no playback.


I have spot checked some other BD's such as The Godfather, Madagascar, Forbidden Kingdom and Wild China and all those work properly.

I am using PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra on a Dell XPS 420 (Q6600 @ 2.4 GHz, 3gb ram) running Vista Ultimate SP1. I have a Windows Experience Index of 3.8 and an ATI HD 2400 graphics card with the latest Catalyst driver (2008.0820.2135.36847). PowerDVD was throwing a 0012 error before the LG firmware update. Flashing to the latest firmware fixed that problem.

As I understand it, new versions of PowerDVD won't allow HD DVD playback. I wonder if I could install a 2nd instance of PowerDVD and use one for BD and the other for HD DVD?

Any help would be appreciated. Would like to view these movies that aren't loading properly.

[JustABDFan]

Grab the update from the cyberlink software update page, apply it and then try those discs again. Its under PowerDVD Ultra and its the one on top dated 9/30.

[RaginCajun92]

Grab the update from the cyberlink software update page, apply it and then try those discs again. Its under PowerDVD Ultra and its the one on top dated 9/30.

That update is for PDVD8, I have 7. They removed HD DVD playback in 8 which I need.

[skaman]

http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/download/patches_112_ENU.html

4407 update for LG drives is on this page. I updated my OEM version of PDVD 7 last night with it (I haven't been able to test it though).

[JustABDFan]

That update is for PDVD8, I have 7. They removed HD DVD playback in 8 which I need.

The updates for 8 are under "PowerDVD" and the updates for 7 and under "PowerDVD Ultra". Why they did it that way who knows. Just follow the link in the previous post you'll see it.

[deandob]

Hi,

Today I updated to the newly 25/9 released NVidia drivers, which fixed a bug I had with custom resolutions not sticking with the prior drivers. Now PDVD gives me buffer overrun errors when running blu or HD DVD disks, with or without AnyDVD. I have tried a couple of things like re-installing 4407 PDVD and changing resolutions with the display to a standrd resolution fixes the issue so the custom resolution is the problem.

Anyone else had the same problem with custom resolutions when updating the NVidia driver?

[HTPCat]

I have an LG GGW-H20LK Combo Drive that I just purchased from NewEgg. One side note is the LG Firmare utility recognizes this as a GGW-H20L. Not sure of the difference.

Anyway, I am having some playback issues with these BD movies (there may be other movie issues but these are the ones I've tried today):

Nightmare Before Xmas: Loads fine but the main menu displays no text where Play, Settings, Bonus Features, etc should appear. There is a placeholder where this text should appear. Can't use keyboard to highlight these areas thus I can't get into the movie itself.

Nim's Island: BD boots to a screen saying a firmware upgrade is needed. I have the latest firmware flashed (YL04). Movie will not play.

Love Guru: BD boots fine to the main menu however when you select a scene or PLAY, the disc locks up and no playback is ever achieved.

Iron Man: Before the firmware update on the LG drive, the round blue Iron Man logo would appear and then crap out. After the firmware update nothing happens at all, just a black screen and no playback.


I have spot checked some other BD's such as The Godfather, Madagascar, Forbidden Kingdom and Wild China and all those work properly.

I am using PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra on a Dell XPS 420 (Q6600 @ 2.4 GHz, 3gb ram) running Vista Ultimate SP1. I have a Windows Experience Index of 3.8 and an ATI HD 2400 graphics card with the latest Catalyst driver (2008.0820.2135.36847). PowerDVD was throwing a 0012 error before the LG firmware update. Flashing to the latest firmware fixed that problem.

As I understand it, new versions of PowerDVD won't allow HD DVD playback. I wonder if I could install a 2nd instance of PowerDVD and use one for BD and the other for HD DVD?

Any help would be appreciated. Would like to view these movies that aren't loading properly.
If you want PDVD8 and you want it to play HD DVDs go to slysoft forum and look for reloaded 3;).

[lonely1]

Hi guys,

I have got a weird issue here when i wanted to update the firmware to YL04 from my GGW H20L Drive which currently has YD03 on it. Somehow the update fails and doesn't work.
I used odd auto update installer, it finds and recognised my drive and want to update with YL04. its starting and then stopping the process suddenly, and update fails. I tried a couple of times with the same result.

Anyone knows what to do to get YL04 on my drive.

[JustABDFan]

Hi guys,

I have got a weird issue here when i wanted to update the firmware to YL04 from my GGW H20L Drive which currently has YD03 on it. Somehow the update fails and doesn't work.
I used odd auto update installer, it finds and recognised my drive and want to update with YL04. its starting and then stopping the process suddenly, and update fails. I tried a couple of times with the same result.

Anyone knows what to do to get YL04 on my drive.

Try here: http://us.lgservice.com/index_b2c.jsp

enter 'ggw-h20l' in the search box, it should take you to the page with the firmware. if you see a page come up for a survey just select 'no' and try again, it shouldn't come up again. The webpage doesn't allow right clicking so i'm not able to get the link to the firmware directly.

[pqcanada]

The YD03 firmware, is this an oem drive instead of retail or something?

[H8nXTC]

If you want PDVD8 and you want it to play HD DVDs go to slysoft forum and look for reloaded 3;).

Nothing comes up with a search for "reloaded 3" on Slysoft's forums. Link??

[H8nXTC]

found it if you search google for Slysoft forums + "reloaded 3"

[vpopovic]

All i have to say after using 7 and 8 versions for quite a while is that sound quality is not that great, picture quality is not better than PS3, and frustration of not having the ability to play some discs is just over the top.

I like my HTPC and would not for the world let go of it for DVD playback, but as far as BR playback, i am giving it up. Looks like there will be some time before the BR software will be really ready for primetime. I am in the market for a top notch standlone player and will gladly upgrade the my receiver (as opposed to getting a new high end power amp) now i know that HTPC hell with BR is over.

Hope you guys will have lots of fun with sorting out all the bugs in the software for free, so that Cyberlink can make more money eventually when they come up with a product that is actually fit for human consumption. This comment is not intended as anything that would put continuing users down, just as my own user experience. I'd actually like to spend more time enjoying the content, not figuring out how to play the discs.

[gsr]

I like my HTPC and would not for the world let go of it for DVD playback, but as far as BR playback, i am giving it up. Looks like there will be some time before the BR software will be really ready for primetime. I am in the market for a top notch standlone player and will gladly upgrade the my receiver (as opposed to getting a new high end power amp) now i know that HTPC hell with BR is over.
Same here - I'm going to get myself a standalone Bluray player and it looks like my choice is going to be the new Oppo BDP-83 when it comes out. I've suffered with PowerDVD and TMT long enough that waiting a few more months for the Oppo isn't going to kill me. If someone else comes out with a universal player (CD, DVD, SACD, DVD-Audio) sooner, I'll consider that option. DVD-Audio support isn't 100% confirmed yet for the Oppo, but they're said to be working on including it.

[lonely1]

The YD03 firmware, is this an oem drive instead of retail or something?

I don't know, the GGW-H20L drive came packet with a new medion pc i bought.

The drive was made in march 2008 and the Rom is YD03

Does anyone know if it is updateble somehow with the YL firmwares?

[JustABDFan]

you'll need to get the firmware from the pc vendor then, the firmware on the LG page is only for retail drives or oem drives with retail firmware, looks like yours has oem firmware on it.

[twofoot]

I downloaded the trial version of PowerDVD Ultra 8. I cannot get it to play Blu-ray movies ripped to hard drive using AnyDVD HD and Virtual Clone Drive. I mount the movie on the virtual drive but when I try to play it PowerDVD gives me an error message "There is a disc with an unsupported format in the drive". What am I doing wrong?

[Lilit]

I downloaded the trial version of PowerDVD Ultra 8. I cannot get it to play Blu-ray movies ripped to hard drive using AnyDVD HD and Virtual Clone Drive. I mount the movie on the virtual drive but when I try to play it PowerDVD gives me an error message "There is a disc with an unsupported format in the drive". What am I doing wrong?

If I'm wright the trial version does not play blu ray disk!

Cheers

[vladd]

PDVD trial software does not allow Bluray playback. The ONLY trial software that does is Arcsoft's (which is unavailable at the moment).

[Nimo]

Well I couldn't leave well enough alone this morning I decided to hook up the Xbox add on and try for HD playback. Before I did this I went to my install disc the video card came with and used those Avivo codec's. I then proceeded to install PDVD once I got to 2911 after testing various versions it is the only version that works properly with this Ati card it doesn't down rez or crop the picture. Cyberlink left out the UI entries for the later versions so it's 2911 which by luck turns out to be one of the better players besides 3401. Using Anydvd at startup I'm amazed at the VC-1 performance before using a later set of Avivo's I got the black screen of death so this time I decided to use what came with the card.

From 100% cpu usage I cut that in half with these Avivo codec's and I can honestly say I'm blown away by the performance.:eek: This little 2600 card is definitely the bomb diggity for this old 875p Intel board. I also went to Frys and bought a demo media box a steel SilverStone black for 60.00. And some pretty cool Patriot 2700 ram with heat sinks for 19.00 bucks a piece 2x512 Although the media box manual says it can take both micro and standard ATX it lied. I ended up having to modify the box and run the mobo length wise inside the box, this also eliminates the HDD box enclosure with the fan. Cutting out the side of the box the venting holes that surround the box and using a hand wheel grinder/cutter I was able to get access to the ports I needed and it didn't come out looking to obtrusive after finishing up with the dremmel and painting.

I just cut out what I needed access to like the DVI port USB/LAN and also the PS2 ports as well. I finished it up early evening Sat and just got the Cybercrap sw loaded just a little while ago, and I'm playing Van Helsing as I type this post. I'll post a pic a little later but I'm now officially done with the poor mans BD/HD player!:cool:

Mounting the mobo wasn't so easy as the stand offs are permanently in place so I just used a thick piece of cardboard cut it to the size of the mobo and secured it with one screw that so happened to line up with the mobo.:D

[JustABDFan]

PDVD trial software does not allow Bluray playback. The ONLY trial software that does is Arcsoft's (which is unavailable at the moment).

The current trial of Powerdvd 8 doesnt, but the 1830 version trial did. It was on download.com but not anymore.

[nosurrender]

Hello everybody!

I've got a question converning PDVD 7 Ultra.
Until now I used 2911 because every newer release created a black frame in fullscreen-mode. When I upgraded to 4407 yesterday the frame was gone but I was confronted with another problem. Playing a BD I can't disable hardware acceleration. When there is no disc inserted, I can uncheck the HA-option, but as soon as I insert a BD, the box is checked again and greyed out, so that I can't disable it again.
Unfortunately HA being enabled results in judder which wasn't there when I used 2911 (where I was able to disable HA completely).

Is there a possibility (maybe with a registry tweak) to completely disable HA in PDVD 4407?

Thanks in advance!

Regards, nosurrender

[JustABDFan]

Looking briefly through the registry I found this key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\CyberLink\PowerDVD]

"UIUseHVA"=dword:00000001

HVA could be hardware video acceleration, not sure since I haven't tried it. It could also be the entry for the checkbox in which case it won't work.
Change it to 0 instead of 1. Make a backup before you change anything in case it bombs.

Edit: after looking some more i found another one under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\CyberLink\Common\cl264dec], you might need to go through and check them all.

[nosurrender]

Thanks for your answer!
I found another one under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\CyberLink\Common\CLVSD] and changed the three of them to "0" instead of "1".
Unfortunately, even after a reboot, HA still enables itself and PDVD doesn't seem to care about the changes in the registry.
Using the different values, PDVD works just the same as before...

Any further suggestions?

Regards, nosurrender

[Disc13]

Well I couldn't leave well enough alone this morning I decided to hook up the Xbox add on and try for HD playback. Before I did this I went to my install disc the video card came with and used those Avivo codec's. I then proceeded to install PDVD once I got to 2911 after testing various versions it is the only version that works properly with this Ati card it doesn't down rez or crop the picture. Cyberlink left out the UI entries for the later versions so it's 2911 which by luck turns out to be one of the better players besides 3401. Using Anydvd at startup I'm amazed at the VC-1 performance before using a later set of Avivo's I got the black screen of death so this time I decided to use what came with the card.

From 100% cpu usage I cut that in half with these Avivo codec's and I can honestly say I'm blown away by the performance.:eek: This little 2600 card is definitely the bomb diggity for this old 875p Intel board. I also went to Frys and bought a demo media box a steel SilverStone black for 60.00. And some pretty cool Patriot 2700 ram with heat sinks for 19.00 bucks a piece 2x512 Although the media box manual says it can take both micro and standard ATX it lied. I ended up having to modify the box and run the mobo length wise inside the box, this also eliminates the HDD box enclosure with the fan. Cutting out the side of the box the venting holes that surround the box and using a hand wheel grinder/cutter I was able to get access to the ports I needed and it didn't come out looking to obtrusive after finishing up with the dremmel and painting.

I just cut out what I needed access to like the DVI port USB/LAN and also the PS2 ports as well. I finished it up early evening Sat and just got the Cybercrap sw loaded just a little while ago, and I'm playing Van Helsing as I type this post. I'll post a pic a little later but I'm now officially done with the poor mans BD/HD player!:cool:

Mounting the mobo wasn't so easy as the stand offs are permanently in place so I just used a thick piece of cardboard cut it to the size of the mobo and secured it with one screw that so happened to line up with the mobo.:D

wait, isn't the avivo installed with the ATI drivers?

I recently reformatted my hard drive and went with drivers straight from the ati webpage (driver only, not catalyst control center). Am I not getting Avivo acceleration with my playback?

[leftheaded]

any idea how to fix this? is anyone else able to play an ISO of Cars?


used anydvd to rip the "Cars" BD to ISO
using powerdvd 3319a


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/2964087938_8301474eac_o.jpg

[Nimo]

wait, isn't the avivo installed with the ATI drivers?

I recently reformatted my hard drive and went with drivers straight from the ati webpage (driver only, not catalyst control center). Am I not getting Avivo acceleration with my playback?

No I don't think is is part of the driver package, if you scroll down a little further you will see the dl link for the codec's. Those ones on the Amd site didn't work for me I used the ones on the disc the card came with. I think you still get acceleration on certain formats, but for HD DVD VC-1 I was pegged at 100% since the codec install it's down to 30/50% on cpu usage using PDVD 4407.

[JustABDFan]

Thanks for your answer!
I found another one under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\CyberLink\Common\CLVSD] and changed the three of them to "0" instead of "1".
Unfortunately, even after a reboot, HA still enables itself and PDVD doesn't seem to care about the changes in the registry.
Using the different values, PDVD works just the same as before...

Any further suggestions?

Regards, nosurrender

Try using Reclock, it should help with the judder issues you are seeing. I have never used it and couldn't begin to advise on how it works but theres a big thread over at the slysoft user forum. http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=19931

[JustABDFan]

any idea how to fix this? is anyone else able to play an ISO of Cars?


used anydvd to rip the "Cars" BD to ISO
using powerdvd 3319a


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/2964087938_8301474eac_o.jpg


The dialog box that comes up that could mean aacs was not removed. How are you mounting the iso for playback? is anydvd hd running in the background? Did you keep protection when you ripped the original disc? you may need to update powerdvd to a more version to play it.

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No I don't think is is part of the driver package, if you scroll down a little further you will see the dl link for the codec's. Those ones on the Amd site didn't work for me I used the ones on the disc the card came with. I think you still get acceleration on certain formats, but for HD DVD VC-1 I was pegged at 100% since the codec install it's down to 30/50% on cpu usage using PDVD 4407.

ah, interesting... thanks; I thought that download link under the drivers was for a program that would convert video to a format usable by portable devices and the like. I'll go download it now, although I haven't been checking my CPU load levels.

edit: upon further research, it appears the general consensus is that to take advantage of Avivo acceleration you on