Just be warned, the empire is about to strike back

- Rich

Actually I only use AnyDVD HD to remove the HDCP requirement, I don't rip the movies to the hard drive, so I'm not worried about that.

I did forget to mention that I only blu-ray movies through my HTPC.

Actually I only use AnyDVD HD to remove the HDCP requirement, I don't rip the movies to the hard drive, so I'm not worried about that.

I did forget to mention that I only blu-ray movies through my HTPC.

It doesn't make a difference if you're ripping the movies or not. With a new AACS, AnyDVD HD will no longer be able to remove HDCP-requirements from upcoming titles.

Of course, a new version of AnyDVD HD will come out, defeating it once again.

Of course, a new version of AnyDVD HD will come out, defeating it once again.

We can only hope ;)
It may be a bit harder this time though.

- Rich

We can only hope ;)
It may be a bit harder this time though.

- Rich

I agree, I really hope they do, just for the sake of having everything BUT an HDCP compliant big flat panel that I don't want to replace. Even my graphics card is HDCP compliant. Oh well. If it doesn't work out, I guess I'll be going after that Dell 27" with HDCP and the same native resolution of the 24" I already have. Just seems like such a waste just to be able to watch the content I bought on the overpriced drives (well, the blu-ray one anyways, the 360 HD-DVD one was ok) I bought.

Now if I plug it into my Aquas, via an HDMI to DVI adapter it works great, but that's what freaking extenders are for. Blah. Rant over. =D

Is there a way to get HDMI video cards to output LPCM and the video yet? Also, can you get the HDMI cards to output 1920x1080p24?

Thanks!
Chris

It doesn't make a difference if you're ripping the movies or not. With a new AACS, AnyDVD HD will no longer be able to remove HDCP-requirements from upcoming titles.

Of course, a new version of AnyDVD HD will come out, defeating it once again.

Yeah I realized that later after I posted, oh well, I think if AnyDVD can break it once, it'll be just as easy to break the next AACS Code too.

I'm having the same problem as SNOOT. PDVD 7.3 was working fine for me but after I mucked with the display settings (screen text / icons 120%) PDVD looks to be stuck in a 4x zoom mode as SNOOT reports. Re-installing the nvidia drivers, resetting the screen back to normal and re-installing PDVD does not make any difference. Broken.... :confused:


Mine was like this from the get go. I didn't mess with anything. Uninstalling and reinstalling has no effect. This with 7.3 I have a copy of 7.2 I'm gonna try.

Has anybody tried to play the Heart Alive at Seattle 1080i AVC disc? With PDVD 7.3, Vista, I encountered an unusual problem. The CPU loads to about 60-65% with DXVA enabled (Nvidia 7950 GT @610 Mhz, CPU E6600 at stock 2.4 Ghz). In that mode it does hardware deinterlacing and drops frames all over the place - quite noticeable. If I disable it, things are better, but only if I choose Bob as software deinterlacing method. Other deinterlacing methods (median or pixel adaptive) send the CPU in the 95% zone and the occasional peak to 100% causes a frame drop. I need to overclock the PC to 3.2 Ghz to help with that. Even then I get an occasional dropped frame, but nowhere near the horrible drop-fest when using DXVA.
I've never had dropped frames issue with progressive 1080p VC1 material, and never more than 45-50% CPU with or without DXVA enabled.
I wonder if this is driver issue - the Nvidia drivers for Vista are horrible, only the first release actually supports my native 1280x720 resolution through VGA. I wonder if people with the 8800 Nvidia card have this problem.

when i play Departed on my xbox360 hd-dvd player w/ powerdvd 7.2, how do i use title menu. when i have title menu, i cannot do anything else with it. what is the hotkey for it.

but when i played miami vice, i can use the hotkey for it but not in Departed.

Hi All,

Using HD DVD Xbox drive on XP / PowerDVD 6.5 / Nvidia 7300 LE (non-HDCP) / Conroe 6600 / AnyDVD 6.1.33.

When playing Departed I get black screen for about 2 seconds and it just stops playing -- playing from HD produces the same result. When trying to play EVO file directly, I get some weird playback with seems like 4x the normal speed and no audio.

Has anybody been able to play Departed successfully with WinDVD 6.5 or should I upgrade to 7.3 version to fix these problems ?

Thanks for your help, Davie.

Has anybody tried to play the Heart Alive at Seattle 1080i AVC disc? ......


Interlaced h264 material is a major problem for all current decoders unfortunately. Pixel adaptive on multimegabit h264 1080i is insanely hard on the cards - for 10mbit+ you need an 8800, as the decoders just aren't remotely optimised to do it in software.

Interlaced h264 material is a major problem for all current decoders unfortunately. Pixel adaptive on multimegabit h264 1080i is insanely hard on the cards - for 10mbit+ you need an 8800, as the decoders just aren't remotely optimised to do it in software.

Does this mean that 8800 does hardware deinterlacing without dropping frames on high bitrate 1080i interlaced material?

Hi All,

Using HD DVD Xbox drive on XP / PowerDVD 6.5 / Nvidia 7300 LE (non-HDCP) / Conroe 6600 / AnyDVD 6.1.33.

When playing Departed I get black screen for about 2 seconds and it just stops playing -- playing from HD produces the same result. When trying to play EVO file directly, I get some weird playback with seems like 4x the normal speed and no audio.

Has anybody been able to play Departed successfully with WinDVD 6.5 or should I upgrade to 7.3 version to fix these problems ?

Thanks for your help, Davie.

Digging more into this problem I think that this shattering fast playback is caused by DDPlus audio stream -- it feels like it is skipping big portions of the video stream, hence a perception of 4x speed. Even trailers encoded in MPEG2 (but with DDPlus audio stream) experience the same skipping (I had no problems playing VC1 video stream with DDigital AC3).

I am using SPDIF from mobo directly to receiver (SPDIF audio option in PowerDVD).

Does PowerDVD Ultra has any options of downconverting DDPlus to DTS ? Are there any other options I can try to pass audio as DTS rather than DDPlus to my receiver ?

Thanks, Davie.

Does this mean that 8800 does hardware deinterlacing without dropping frames on high bitrate 1080i interlaced material?

That depends on the drivers not being full of bugs :-)

However, in theory they have the power - NVidia said somewhere that for spatial-temporal deinterlacing you need the 8800.

coaxial or 6 channel analog for powerdvd 7.2 w/ xbox360 hd-dvd player?

which one has better sound?

For those of you with a zoomed display, make sure your antialising settings in the 3D control panel is set to 2x or Application Controlled. This should solve the problem.

Hmm. I tried that and even turned off all the 3D settings, and re-installed 7.3. No go. Any other ideas from those who had this problem and got it to work? I've gone back to PDVD v6.5 which although only plays half my HD DVD collection, at least renders a decent picture.

I may have to wait until the final release of PDVD 7.3 comes out, or try the trial Nero player.

Regards

Hmm. I tried that and even turned off all the 3D settings, and re-installed 7.3. No go. Any other ideas from those who had this problem and got it to work? I've gone back to PDVD v6.5 which although only plays half my HD DVD collection, at least renders a decent picture.

I may have to wait until the final release of PDVD 7.3 comes out, or try the trial Nero player.

Regards

I had the zoomed display a while back when I first installed. I think I unistalled the video drivers and installecd the latest and it was fine.

- Rich

Rich,

Are you using the 97.92 XP beta drivers? I had backed off to the November official beta HD drivers (along with other changes I made) when the problem appeared so I will give the 97.92 drivers another go. I rolled back the 97.92 version as I had problems with the cloned display (I use an x15 case with inbuilt LCD screen and a 6600GT).

I watched Batman Begins last night on PDVD 6.5, and apart from not being able to turn off the subtitles the picture quality was better than 7.3. The sound was easily the best I have ever heard in my HT (I have pretty decent audio gear with an EMU 1820m for surrounds and an audiophile DAC for the mains).

I'm not having much fun between the bugs in the Nvidia drivers and PowerDVD. Hopefully the next release of Nvidia drivers & PowerDVD will be more stable.

Regards

Rich,

I watched Batman Begins last night on PDVD 6.5, and apart from not being able to turn off the subtitles the picture quality was better than 7.3. The sound was easily the best I have ever heard in my HT (I have pretty decent audio gear with an EMU 1820m for surrounds and an audiophile DAC for the mains).



Regards

Agreed. As much as I love the PQ of HD-DVD and BD, I think I'm in love with the AQ even more. Even DD+ sounds great.

Rich,

Are you using the 97.92 XP beta drivers? I had backed off to the November official beta HD drivers (along with other changes I made) when the problem appeared so I will give the 97.92 drivers another go. I rolled back the 97.92 version as I had problems with the cloned display (I use an x15 case with inbuilt LCD screen and a 6600GT).

I watched Batman Begins last night on PDVD 6.5, and apart from not being able to turn off the subtitles the picture quality was better than 7.3. The sound was easily the best I have ever heard in my HT (I have pretty decent audio gear with an EMU 1820m for surrounds and an audiophile DAC for the mains).

I'm not having much fun between the bugs in the Nvidia drivers and PowerDVD. Hopefully the next release of Nvidia drivers & PowerDVD will be more stable.

Regards

I am using Vista Ultimate and the 101.41 drivers, I also tried the 100.xx drivers and they were not much better. I have to turn off hardware acceleration to get them to work. I get the feeling that the refresh rate is not quite right and it may be an NVidia problem. The current drivers to not let you do custom timings. It amazes me that even all of the delays still we have very bad video drivers for Vista.

I could not get 6.5 OEM version from Sony to work at all, so I bought the 7 series. But as I understand it, 6.5 supported VMR and 7.3 does not (for most of us anyway) so that could be the reason for the better picture. I am running an 8800 GTS so I am forced into more recent drivers.

I also love the sound with LPCM, DD+, DD True-HD, and DTS lossless sound tracks, but the LPCM tracks sound better to me. I think there may be room for improvement with the decoding software ;)

- Rich

Hmm. I tried that and even turned off all the 3D settings, and re-installed 7.3. No go. Any other ideas from those who had this problem and got it to work? I've gone back to PDVD v6.5 which although only plays half my HD DVD collection, at least renders a decent picture.

I may have to wait until the final release of PDVD 7.3 comes out, or try the trial Nero player.

Regards
On another forum, it was suggested to change the settings in the 3D control panel from "quality" to "performance". This worked for the person that posted this exact same problem...YMMV, though.

If you have a Nvidia 8800 series graphics card, Win XP 32bit, and PowerDVD Ultra and are having issues seeing HD-DVD video playing King Kong, Children of Men, or any other Universal titles ..

Download and install the BETA Nvidia 101.02 Drivers from Guru3d website. This seems to have solved that issue at least for me!

* Install beta drivers at your OWN risk*

So happy this works!!

Does anyone know the fix for seemingly dropped frames? I seem to have some issues with an ever so slight stutter here and there.

Two systems using Powerdvd 7.1, AnyDVD HD, movies being played back from hard drive rips. Slight stutter happens on both systems - usually in panning scenes. Hardware acceleration is turned on in both systems.


System 1 = X2 3800+ @ 2.2GHz, 2GB of ram, 7800GT 256MB video card

System 2 = C2D E6600 @ 2.4GHz, 2GB of ram, 6600GT 128MB video card

Does anyone know the fix for seemingly dropped frames? I seem to have some issues with an ever so slight stutter here and there.

Two systems using Powerdvd 7.1, AnyDVD HD, movies being played back from hard drive rips. Slight stutter happens on both systems - usually in panning scenes. Hardware acceleration is turned on in both systems.


System 1 = X2 3800+ @ 2.2GHz, 2GB of ram, 7800GT 256MB video card

System 2 = C2D E6600 @ 2.4GHz, 2GB of ram, 6600GT 128MB video card

I have tried 3 different systems with 8800, 6800, and FireGL 5250 graphics cards. In all of them, I get stuttering until I turn off hardware acceleration.

- Rich

I'll give that a shot once I'm done converting a DVD for my PSP. Gotta have something to watch while I do laundry tomorrow morning or I should say in just a few hours. CPU utilization jumps through the roof but I guess I'd rather have smooth playback then stutters.

Thanks Rich- I believe that did the trick. CPU on the X2 3800+ bounces around 75-90% but playback seems smoother. The more I watch HD-DVD's the better they look. Children of Men looks awesome.

The problem with turning off hardware accel on my system is that I cannot play any disks without AnyDVDHD loaded then. I just get that d*mned incompatible graphics driver error. That's fine as long as AnyDVD works, but if it gets broken then I'm SOL.

Changed 8800GTS for ATI X1950 and got "Incompatible Graphics Driver" message from PowerDVD 7.3

Tried different ATI Cat drivers from 7.1 to 7.3, no luck.

Had to revert back to PowerDVD 7.1 and Cat driver 7.2, working fine again.

Anyone got PowerDVD 7.3 working with X1950?

if so which drivers?

Changed 8800GTS for ATI X1950 and got "Incompatible Graphics Driver" message from PowerDVD 7.3

Tried different ATI Cat drivers from 7.1 to 7.3, no luck.

Had to revert back to PowerDVD 7.1 and Cat driver 7.2, working fine again.

Anyone got PowerDVD 7.3 working with X1950?

if so which drivers?

I just upgraded my X850XT to the X1950 Pro yesterday, I am using 7.3 drivers and 7.3 PowerDVD, it passes Cyberlinks test app no problem.

The only difference maybe that I am using AnyDVD HD, so download the trial version of that and see if it helps.

I just upgraded my X850XT to the X1950 Pro yesterday, I am using 7.3 drivers and 7.3 PowerDVD, it passes Cyberlinks test app no problem.

The only difference maybe that I am using AnyDVD HD, so download the trial version of that and see if it helps.

Does it work without AnyDVD?

Hmm. I tried that and even turned off all the 3D settings, and re-installed 7.3. No go. Any other ideas from those who had this problem and got it to work? I've gone back to PDVD v6.5 which although only plays half my HD DVD collection, at least renders a decent picture.

I may have to wait until the final release of PDVD 7.3 comes out, or try the trial Nero player.

I'm assuming you are using AnyDVD HD. Have you tried ticking the "disable menus for Canal" option for those titles which won't work in PDVD 6.5? I did that with one title which wouldn't work and it fixed the problem even though I don't think it was a Canal title, but I'm not sure it works for all of them. I think the problem lies with the menuing setup rather than in actually playing the content.

The only alternative to be able to watch all titles under PDVD 6.5 is to modify the xpl file to remove everything (even the nav stuff) but the feature and the desired audio track, however that requires the files on a HDD. ;)

Hi Ian,

Yes, I'm use AnyDVD (nifty piece of software!). I'll try the disable menus for Canal as I prefer the PowerDVD 6.5 video quality (it uses VRM9 not overlay).

I thought with AnyDVD you can still modify the XPL which is always copied to the HD even if you watch the movie on the disk without making a HDD copy? I did try this to remove the subtitles however it didn't work, either because you are correct it needs to be a HDD copy or because I have not fully worked out how to hack the XPL file.

Regards,

how do i get truehd sound from powerdvd 7.2 ultra?

If you have a Nvidia 8800 series graphics card, Win XP 32bit, and PowerDVD Ultra and are having issues seeing HD-DVD video playing King Kong, Children of Men, or any other Universal titles ..

Download and install the BETA Nvidia 101.02 Drivers from Guru3d website. This seems to have solved that issue at least for me!

* Install beta drivers at your OWN risk*

So happy this works!!

What type of problems were you having. My issue was a blank screen on the feature presentation. Turning off U-Control in the menu didn't work. IMHO, it appears powerdvd can't handle sub pictures (PIP) because of overlay. With VMR this issue should go away. In the meanwhile, you can disable the U-Control sub picture stuff by commenting it out in the XPL like so:

<!--
<SubVideo track="1"/>
<SubAudio track="1" streamNumber="1" mediaAttr="1"/>
-->

Changed 8800GTS for ATI X1950 and got "Incompatible Graphics Driver" message from PowerDVD 7.3

Tried different ATI Cat drivers from 7.1 to 7.3, no luck.

Had to revert back to PowerDVD 7.1 and Cat driver 7.2, working fine again.

Anyone got PowerDVD 7.3 working with X1950?

if so which drivers?I use PowerDVD 7.3, an X1650, and catalyst 7.2. Blu-ray playback is fine, but HD-DVDs must be ripped to the hard drive first to avoid the "Incompatible Graphics Driver" error. I think it's been pretty well documented here that encrypted VC-1 discs in PowerDVD 7.3 require hardware acceleration, which does not appear to work for ATI cards. Hopefully, Cyberlink will fix this before AnyDVD stops working...

When playing these HD DVD titles in WinXP 32bit, I could see and hear the universal logo, the menu, FBI warning, and the interview opinion "spiel" .. but after that I could hear the movie audio but not see the video.

I dual boot WinXP 32bit and Vista 64bit. With Vista this isn't an issue -- I can see and hear the movies fine. Why don't I just watch the movies on Vista then? Playing movies in Vista has a lot of stutters and eventually locks up and crashes. I think this is an issue with the 64bit OS... but thats a whole other issue entirely.

The fix with the 101.02 beta drivers works just fine for me but thank you for posting the possible other solution, ymarker.

Just for reference here are my PC's specs:

Core 2 Duo E6600 overclocked to 3.4 Ghz
2 Gigs OCZ DDR2 PC-8000
EVGA GeForce 8800GTX Video Card
X-Fi Fatality Creative Sound Card
XBOX 360 HD-DVD Addon Drive

The fix with the 101.02 beta drivers works just fine for me but thank you for posting the possible other solution, ymarker.




Do you able to set resolution to 1920x1080 at 60Hz with this beta driver on Vista?

Do you able to set resolution to 1920x1080 at 60Hz with this beta driver on Vista?

I've had problems connecting at 1920x1080 since 100.65 but only with VGA (with XP works fine), output to a Samsung LCD. For what I have checked the driver is not getting the EDID info correctly (it reads 1920x720 at 60hz). This will be surely fixed in next driver releases. Anyway with DVI I have no problems.

I have a 8800GTS and get "incompatible graphics driver"with 101.02.

With 97.92 PowerDVD (HD-DVD) works fine in XP but only if I uncheck hardware acceleration. Otherwise I get sound but no picture when feature starts.

Oh, BTW. I can watch now movies with 97.92/XP on my secondary monitor with NO STUTTERING AND WITHOUT EXCLUSIVE RENDERLESS MODE! Picture is smooth as silk (1920x1080p/DVI). Have tested it with ZP 5.0 and Theatertek.

I don´t have my 7950gt anymore but can anyone confirm if this works too with series 7 GPUs?

When playing these HD DVD titles in WinXP 32bit, I could see and hear the universal logo, the menu, FBI warning, and the interview opinion "spiel" .. but after that I could hear the movie audio but not see the video.

I dual boot WinXP 32bit and Vista 64bit. With Vista this isn't an issue -- I can see and hear the movies fine. Why don't I just watch the movies on Vista then? Playing movies in Vista has a lot of stutters and eventually locks up and crashes. I think this is an issue with the 64bit OS... but thats a whole other issue entirely.

The fix with the 101.02 beta drivers works just fine for me but thank you for posting the possible other solution, ymarker.

Just for reference here are my PC's specs:

Core 2 Duo E6600 overclocked to 3.4 Ghz
2 Gigs OCZ DDR2 PC-8000
EVGA GeForce 8800GTX Video Card
X-Fi Fatality Creative Sound Card
XBOX 360 HD-DVD Addon Drive

Looks like we had both had the same symptoms and have very similar setups. I dual boot XP MCE 32bit and Vista Ultimate as well. Are you using U-Control's PIP capability on those Universal movies? I'm wondering if somehow the new 101.02 beta is enabling VMR on PDVD 7.3. See if you can take a printscreen of a windowed powerdvd playing the movie. Let us know.

EDIT: Also did you have any issues setting the display driver at 1920x1080p?

When playing these HD DVD titles in WinXP 32bit, I could see and hear the universal logo, the menu, FBI warning, and the interview opinion "spiel" .. but after that I could hear the movie audio but not see the video.

I dual boot WinXP 32bit and Vista 64bit. With Vista this isn't an issue -- I can see and hear the movies fine. Why don't I just watch the movies on Vista then? Playing movies in Vista has a lot of stutters and eventually locks up and crashes. I think this is an issue with the 64bit OS... but thats a whole other issue entirely.

The fix with the 101.02 beta drivers works just fine for me but thank you for posting the possible other solution, ymarker.
I was about to post "re-install", since that used to happen to me in the beginning before I go the drivers right.

But my question is: are you trying to use the same install under both OS's, or have you done a separate installation for each OS?

If it's the same install, you will likely not get it working with both. Recommend you do a separate installation under wach OS.

If you have two different installs already and the 32 bit install is the one that is not working, then uninstall both the program and the GPU drivers, then re-install the GPU drivers and then the program, in that order.

Does this help?

I'm suddenly getting the 'incompatible graphics driver message, error=12", and I get it whether my hardware acceleration is on or off. Are the other suggestions to fix this? I had HD DVD working fine, but I'm suddenly getting this message for King King and Serenity (the only two disks I have on hand just now).

System is:
XP 32bit
e4300, overclocked to 2.61ghz
Asrock 775 880pro dual vista mobo
2Gig Corsair DDR2 800 memory
EVGA 7600GT 256mb (non HDCP)
AnyDVD HD
PowerDVD 7.1
XBox 360 drive
Display is a Marquee 8500 CRT Projector

I just got an 8800 GTS and have had a world of hurt getting PowerDVD ultra to work. I had a 7600GT which worked flawlessly...

Is this a driver problem with the 8800 series? On my setup, using the 100.XX driver I can play Universal titles like KK ONLY with hardware acceleration checked. With the released Nvidia drivers, I got a black screen with sound with it checked, and the incompatible driver error with acceleration unchecked with any and all driver versions. Is this a fault of Nvidia or Cyberlink or both?

hi there, can anyone please help me?

I have 360 drive, powerdvd 7.x (?) on my xp httpc.

I can only get stereo sound - even when passing through the spdif. Does anyone know why this is?

I have 3 sound cards installed (RME 9632 + daughterboard, Lynx-TWOB, onboard Realtech) - how can I choose which soundcard to use?

I'm so used of theatertek....

CaM

Set the Realtek as the default audio device in Windows before launching PowerDVD. If the RME and Lynx are like my EMU they won't passthru AC3/DTS multichannel.

I just got an 8800 GTS and have had a world of hurt getting PowerDVD ultra to work. I had a 7600GT which worked flawlessly...

Is this a driver problem with the 8800 series? On my setup, using the 100.XX driver I can play Universal titles like KK ONLY with hardware acceleration checked. With the released Nvidia drivers, I got a black screen with sound with it checked, and the incompatible driver error with acceleration unchecked with any and all driver versions. Is this a fault of Nvidia or Cyberlink or both?

On XP, right? It's a driver problem. I get the same error with 8800gts and 101.02. It works with 97.92.

hi, thanks for the info.

I'm pretty sure the RME does though as it works fine for Theatertek on normal dvd's.

That also doesn't explain why I only get stereo with the analogue outs on the RME.

I'll go check though :)

CaM

Set the Realtek as the default audio device in Windows before launching PowerDVD. If the RME and Lynx are like my EMU they won't passthru AC3/DTS multichannel.

OK, so set the RME as default and try. It should work then.

Does it work without AnyDVD?

Sorry it took so long to get back to you my PSU died had to get another.

Anyway, with out AnyDVD HD PowerDVD just locks up trying to play HD DVD's.

Hi Ian,

Yes, I'm use AnyDVD (nifty piece of software!). I'll try the disable menus for Canal as I prefer the PowerDVD 6.5 video quality (it uses VRM9 not overlay).
Regards,

I wonder if there is something you can change in the registry for 7.3 to force it to use VRM9 as I agree 6.5 does have better PQ?

I wonder if there is something you can change in the registry for 7.3 to force it to use VRM9 as I agree 6.5 does have better PQ?

Uhmm ... I watch PDVD 7.3 on my secondary monitor (Vista and XP). I understand that this is not possible in XP with overlay. Right? At least this is like used to be before I got the 8800gts with the new drivers ...

I just got an 8800 GTS and have had a world of hurt getting PowerDVD ultra to work. I had a 7600GT which worked flawlessly...

Is this a driver problem with the 8800 series? On my setup, using the 100.XX driver I can play Universal titles like KK ONLY with hardware acceleration checked. With the released Nvidia drivers, I got a black screen with sound with it checked, and the incompatible driver error with acceleration unchecked with any and all driver versions. Is this a fault of Nvidia or Cyberlink or both?

Try the 101.02 Nvidia Beta drivers at Guru3d. This sounds like the exact problem I was having. The beta drivers fixed it for me.

More to come from the above questions when I have the time to answer them fully.

Good Luck

Do you able to set resolution to 1920x1080 at 60Hz with this beta driver on Vista?
I cannot, with either 100.65 or 101.02 beta. My projector says "out of range". 24p, 30i, and 50p all work fine. I need to hookup a computer LCD and see what the real frequency it's outputting is.

ok, I set the realtech as the default and the spdif worked correctly :)

thanks for your help.

CaM

Does PDVD Ultra support new AACS keys, when?

Thuppu, not yet I don't think. I assume there will be a new version at that time.

Ok, so here's a question I've not seen asked:

I have this faint green line at the bottom of my screen, when playing HD-DVDs. Any idea how to get rid of it? It bugs me. :)

Can someone translate the PowerDVD advanced video options into ordinary, precise terms?

WTF is Read-It-Clearly? Why is it a prerequisite to hardware de-interlacing?

Smart de-interlacing = it intelligently chooses between ___ ?? Just different deinterlacing algorithms, or also IVTC? Is it talking about frame-by-frame pattern selection or intraframe bob/weave or both?

What combination of settings will tell it "never deinterlace film-source video, just give me the 24p off the disc"?

this is probally a newb question , but can you play ripped copies of hd-dvd' and blu-ray movies with this program ???

Yes.

Can someone translate the PowerDVD advanced video options into ordinary, precise terms?

WTF is Read-It-Clearly? Why is it a prerequisite to hardware de-interlacing?

Smart de-interlacing = it intelligently chooses between ___ ?? Just different deinterlacing algorithms, or also IVTC? Is it talking about frame-by-frame pattern selection or intraframe bob/weave or both?

What combination of settings will tell it "never deinterlace film-source video, just give me the 24p off the disc"?

another chapel hill resident.

anyway, i think read-it-clearly moves the subtitles down lower so they don't overlap the images at much or even at all. not sure why it is a pre-requisite.

for the last question just tick no de-interlacing and then you can be sure it won't try to do something foolish.

as for smart, I THINK it also take IVTC into account, but i'm not 100% sure.

I'm suddenly getting the 'incompatible graphics driver message, error=12", and I get it whether my hardware acceleration is on or off. Are the other suggestions to fix this? I had HD DVD working fine, but I'm suddenly getting this message for King King and Serenity (the only two disks I have on hand just now).

System is:
XP 32bit
e4300, overclocked to 2.61ghz
Asrock 775 880pro dual vista mobo
2Gig Corsair DDR2 800 memory
EVGA 7600GT 256mb (non HDCP)
AnyDVD HD
PowerDVD 7.1
XBox 360 drive
Display is a Marquee 8500 CRT Projector

i've found that nvidia control panel should be closed.
HW accel usually need to be on.
sometimes need to shut down powerdvd and restart

anyway those three always do the trick with the driver/software combo taht has sometimes given me that error.

800GTS

Hello!

Just thought I'd let people know my experience with replacing my original Elonex built x300 graphics card.

In a desperate bid to enter the realms of HD play back I've upgraded to the ASUS 1600pro HDMI low profile card (sff case so only lp will fit).

First of all, boy is this card loud when compared to the passive cooled x300! Very loud fan..

Next I found a lot of issues with the picture quality with both SD and HD -

-Banding quite bad
-Artifacts
-Colour scale with very defined reds and greens

In all very disappointed, I’m even considering re-installing my x300 which is madness as the 1600pro “should” be 2 generations superior to this card?!?!?

If anyone could recommend where I’m going wrong then please advise, it would be appreciated!

P4 – 3.6MHz
2 GB RAM
Vista 32 bit RTM
Latest 7.3 Catalyst Driver

Incidently HD worked a treat with AnydvdHD / PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 / Xbox360 HD Drive

Thuppu, not yet I don't think. I assume there will be a new version at that time.

Ok, so here's a question I've not seen asked:

I have this faint green line at the bottom of my screen, when playing HD-DVDs. Any idea how to get rid of it? It bugs me. :)

I had this as well when I was in XP. Thought it was a PowerDVD issue. When I upgraded to Vista with the same version of PDVD, the line was gone. I don't remember the nvidia driver version on XP though which probably would have been more helpful... :o

I got Powerdvd Ultra 7.3 this morning and with Anydvd-hd trial installed (going to buy once i try a few other titles), i can play the movie King Kong back with 80% CPU usage on this hardware: AMD AM2 65w 3800x2, 1GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 667, Asus 6150 mobo using onboard video with 93.71 driver, running Windows MCE 2005 with all updates installed... I understand that King Kong is VC1, and that different codecs require more or less power, what can i expect?

Hello!

Just thought I'd let people know my experience with replacing my original Elonex built x300 graphics card.

In a desperate bid to enter the realms of HD play back I've upgraded to the ASUS 1600pro HDMI low profile card (sff case so only lp will fit).

First of all, boy is this card loud when compared to the passive cooled x300! Very loud fan..

Next I found a lot of issues with the picture quality with both SD and HD -

-Banding quite bad
-Artifacts
-Colour scale with very defined reds and greens

In all very disappointed, I’m even considering re-installing my x300 which is madness as the 1600pro “should” be 2 generations superior to this card?!?!?

If anyone could recommend where I’m going wrong then please advise, it would be appreciated!

P4 – 3.6MHz
2 GB RAM
Vista 32 bit RTM
Latest 7.3 Catalyst Driver

Incidently HD worked a treat with AnydvdHD / PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 / Xbox360 HD Drive

3.6MHz? Pretty slow if you ask me....

I got Powerdvd Ultra 7.3 this morning and with Anydvd-hd trial installed (going to buy once i try a few other titles), i can play the movie King Kong back with 80% CPU usage on this hardware: AMD AM2 65w 3800x2, 1GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 667, Asus 6150 mobo using onboard video with 93.71 driver, running Windows MCE 2005 with all updates installed... I understand that King Kong is VC1, and that different codecs require more or less power, what can i expect?

If you're at 80% with VC1 titles you probably won't have a watchable picture with h.264 encoded titles (bad stutters).
Not sure about hd mpeg2 transfers , maybe someone else can comment.

If you're at 80% with VC1 titles you probably won't have a watchable picture with h.264 encoded titles (bad stutters).
Not sure about hd mpeg2 transfers , maybe someone else can comment.

Mpeg2 will be fine (less CPU usage than VC1), but h.264 will kill it.

Mpeg2 will be fine (less CPU usage than VC1), but h.264 will kill it.

If he had ATi Card capable of Avivo then H.264 might not be a problem as it accelerates H.264 playback.

Avivo (http://ati.amd.com/technology/Avivo/index.html)

Blu-ray and HD-DVD media are poised to revolutionize video as we know it. ATI Avivo offers hardware acceleration for H.264 playback, thus providing a key piece in making Blu-ray and HD-DVD a reality in the PC environment. Enjoy high definition picture fidelity unlike anything ever seen before

man thank god i decided to look around in this thread...

stupid nvidia aa settings... ive been trying to figure out for a while now why it was being zoomed like that....

i set it at application controlled and bam.. works great again

Try the 101.02 Nvidia Beta drivers at Guru3d. This sounds like the exact problem I was having. The beta drivers fixed it for me.

More to come from the above questions when I have the time to answer them fully.

Good Luck

I have the same problem of being unable to play KK using the drivers you are recommending UNLESS hardware acceleration is checked. Using this driver version, I also had abnormal colors so the 100 version driver works better for me color-wise. Does this card work better with PowerDVD under Vista?

Is PowerDVD Ultra (build:2605b) [Vista ready] CyberLink.2605b_TaRe2_MSI_DVD061206-02.exe still the latest 7.3 out ?

Is PowerDVD Ultra (build:2605b) [Vista ready] CyberLink.2605b_TaRe2_MSI_DVD061206-02.exe still the latest 7.3 out ?

This is the version I am running.

- Rich

Anybody heard anything about a patch for PDVDU? Looks like WinDVD is responding to the key change/revocation that's coming:

http://www.intervideo.com/jsp/Press.jsp?mode=04-06-2007

Anybody heard anything about a patch for PDVDU? Looks like WinDVD is responding to the key change/revocation that's coming:

http://www.intervideo.com/jsp/Press.jsp?mode=04-06-2007

Wow they are being some what rude about it to;

Please be aware that failure to apply the update will result in AACS-protected HD DVD and BD playback being disabled.

In other words;

Even though you payed extra for HD DVD and BD playback ability, because we are getting screwed by some hackers we are going to screw our whole customer base and take it away unless you follow our demands.

Glad I went with their biggest competitor instead.

Glad I went with their biggest competitor instead.

Won't make any difference, they'll all have to do the same to play new discs, as their old keys will have been revoked.

Yes, that's what I think too. PDVDU will be revoked also. Question is, when is the update for it coming?

Although from what I saw over on Doom9, I think it's all irrelevant now anyway.

I have been following this thread for quite a while trying to make dxva works for me with powerdvd ultra 7.3. It seems that it is working for me now. The image is so much better (I have a 7900GT). Here is what I did, not sure if it will work for other people. I have windows vista and I was using the latest official drivers from NVidia which gave me screwy colors like everyone else who has 7900 series videocard (red push for everything in powerdvd). Anyway, saw today that there was some new beta drivers for vista on guru3d so I said what the heck, let's try them. Started with 101.70; installed those but movies encoded with vc-1 were all screwy, like it did not supported this kind of decoding. Then, I tried 100.95 and with enable hardware acceleration ticked on, I loaded a hd-dvd rip that I made. So the first thing I realize is that the colors seems correct for the first time with this card and powerdvd, and when I go to the info tab of powerdvd, the video decoding info says that dxva is used. And everything is smooth so far. I tried it also with my htpc (XP) with some new drivers (x-treme G 101.02) and it also shows dxva being used. But it stutters on that computer (7800 GT). I will try to see if I can make the stutters go away. Both computers have opteron processors clocked at 2.4.

Guru3D 101.70 driver is giving me now smooth picture in Vista. Also, colors in PD 7.3 are really "natural", not so saturated as they look in XP. Hardware acceleration is checked. CPU% never goes above 40%. Best HD-DVD PQ I've got so far :cool:

Guru3D 101.70 driver is giving me now smooth picture in Vista. Also, colors in PD 7.3 are really "natural", not so saturated as they look in XP. Hardware acceleration is checked. CPU% never goes above 40%. Best HD-DVD PQ I've got so far :cool:

Thanks for this - I was waiting for someone to guinea pig 101.70 before I played with it :-)

Have you tried 100.65 in comparison? I tried the beta 101.somethingelsebefore70 and it was riddled with every bug imaginable :eek:

Yes, 100.65 gives me stuttering. Tried also last beta from Nvidia web site (101.41) which is definitely smoother but ruins colors.

You folks w/ Vista seem to be running into some issues (while some are reporting better PQ, others are reporting crippling driver/other failures)...which is relatively predictable w/ a new OS release.

I've not had problems w/ my combo of a CoreDuo Toshiba laptop, XP MCE '05, AnyDVD and PowerDVD Ultra 7.2...so far. But I was contemplating a Vista upgrade sometime down the line.

So, is it safe to assume that XP is the safer route at this juncture?

So, is it safe to assume that XP is the safer route at this juncture?

Yes.

I asked about the above as I'm considering the purchase of a dedicated HTPC that would come loaded w/ Vista.

Might wait on that a bit (or set it up w/ XP for now--it's planned to be a dual-boot machine based on Mac hardware). Might be worth waiting anyhow as the rumors are circulating that Apple might incorporate some built-in MPEG-4 decoding chipsets in new machines. Be great if that were true. Curious if someone will come out w/ a way to access that chipset when booting into Windows if they do...

Danke,
Me

Yes, 100.65 gives me stuttering. Tried also last beta from Nvidia web site (101.41) which is definitely smoother but ruins colors.

Tried 101.70 with a 7300GS - works nicely for h264/mpeg2, but vc1 is broken with hardware acceleration (picture completely garbled) now, whether I use the windows decoder or Cyberlink's. In software mode with either it's fine, or with ffdshow.

Will try with another card tomorrow.

Which of the beta drivers (3dguru) is the most stable with XP? I am using the official NVIDIA 97.94 and I haven't seen any PQ problems but PowerDVD 7.3 sometimes crashes big time.

Tried 101.70 with a 7300GS - works nicely for h264/mpeg2, but vc1 is broken with hardware acceleration (picture completely garbled) now, whether I use the windows decoder or Cyberlink's. In software mode with either it's fine, or with ffdshow.

Will try with another card tomorrow.

Mine is 8800gts.

Which of the beta drivers (3dguru) is the most stable with XP? I am using the official NVIDIA 97.94 and I haven't seen any PQ problems but PowerDVD 7.3 sometimes crashes big time.

96.89 works great for me. It even lets me manage overscan with my 8800gts.

The more I use PDVD HD-DVD, the more amazed I am that this software was actually released to the public in its current state. What brain-dead MORON thought it would be a good idea to enabled Parental Controls by default, and not provide any way to turn them off? This makes every unrated disc unplayable. There's a knowledge base article on their site indicating that there should be a tab in the Configuration dialog, but it's nowhere to be found and I couldn't even find any registry key for disabling this. Completely inexcusable, whoever gave the OK to ship this software such obvious high-visibility bugs such as this and the subtitle and screensaver bugs should be fired and never allowed to work in the software industry again.

The more I use PDVD HD-DVD, the more amazed I am that this software was actually released to the public in its current state. What brain-dead MORON thought it would be a good idea to enabled Parental Controls by default, and not provide any way to turn them off? This makes every unrated disc unplayable. There's a knowledge base article on their site indicating that there should be a tab in the Configuration dialog, but it's nowhere to be found and I couldn't even find any registry key for disabling this. Completely inexcusable, whoever gave the OK to ship this software such obvious high-visibility bugs such as this and the subtitle and screensaver bugs should be fired and never allowed to work in the software industry again.

I could not agree more! Cyberlink must be totally inept. I can not believe that the software crashes as much as it does on my computer and has such high-profile bugs as keeping subtitles on the screen without a speedy fix for some movies. I ended up ripping these discs to the hard drive just so I could edit the XML file and remove the subtitle entries. What a joke. It is like I downloaded this software from shareware.com.

I just wanted to mention that I finally got HD DVD working by downloading a beta 94.20 driver for my 7600GT graphics card. Until now, on PowerDVD HD I either got the 'incompatible driver' error, a blank black screen or best case was a very stuttered picture. Now I'm all set. CPU processor is running as high as 98% when watching King Kong, but no stuttering all all. Other disks seem to run way lower (35% CPU on Serenity). I still get the stupid subtitles though.

System is:
XP
e4300 Processor overclocked from 1.8ghz to 2.61ghz, on Asrock 775 880PT Pro mobo
EVGA 7600GT, 256MB
Corsair 2Gig DDR2 800 memory
Outputting to a CRT projector via VGA

Now I'm all set. CPU processor is running as high as 98% when watching King Kong, but no stuttering all all. Other disks seem to run way lower (35% CPU on Serenity). I still get the stupid subtitles though.



I get the same high CPU usage with King Kong and other HD DVD's that have U control on them it is like even though U Control is not on it is still running in the background or something.

I get the same high CPU usage with King Kong and other HD DVD's that have U control on them it is like even though U Control is not on it is still running in the background or something.

What is your PDVD version? I've never had that problem with 7.3.

From the sounds of things, this software isn't really ready for prime time yet, huh? A few stupid questions:

1) Is the software decoding all of the audio codecs including DTS-MA? Obvious you have to use the analog connections to get it out there, but is it outputting at full bandwidth?

2) All of the 960x540p downrezzing even with HDCP cards to a HDCP display has been taken care of, correct?

Thank you,
Chris

Not ready for prime time? There's an understatement:

1.) Crashes.
2.) Parental control issues
3.) DD+ -enabled movies cause skipping over S/PDif
4.) Horrible banding on 7-series Geforce cards in WindowsXP
5.) Subtitle bugs.

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I just bought an XA2 Toshiba player to go with my PS3. I'm done with PowerDVD. They just lost a customer.

I just got this software. What would be the best video card to work with it? I need to upgrade mine anyway so what seems to be the best one. I was going to get a Geforce 7600GT but judging on the last post that may not be the best idea.

I just got this software. What would be the best video card to work with it? I need to upgrade mine anyway so what seems to be the best one. I was going to get a Geforce 7600GT but judging on the last post that may not be the best idea.

The 8600 series is expected any time now. Since hardware acceleration is broken for most of us, you should see if your system works with your current card if possible.

- Rich

I'm new to HD-DVD playback, and was tearing my hair out after getting bad stutter on my movies. After a lot of research, it seems it's the same problem referenced earlier in this thread about DDplus 640kbps output via SPDIF. Are other people still seeing this - I'm using PDVD 7.3, and tested same results on my AMD X2 4600 with both XP snd Vista, using Realtek AC97 onboard sound.

Are there any workarounds? Seems crazy I either put up with bad stutter or 2 channel sound!!

The 8600 series is expected any time now. Since hardware acceleration is broken for most of us, you should see if your system works with your current card if possible.

- Rich

Well I have a Geforce 7300 LE that came with my computer. I have tested one HD DVD title that was authored on a DVD9 and I was able to watch it using my normal DVD drive and it played fine, 720p of course. I still need to get an HD DVD drive, is the Xbox add on the best option?

Sorry if I am sounding extremely clueless but what does 'hardware acceleration is broken' mean?

I downloaded the Cyberlink Setup Advisor or whatever it was called and the only thing it said was I needed a new video card and an HD DVD drive (of course).

Well I have a Geforce 7300 LE that came with my computer. I have tested one HD DVD title that was authored on a DVD9 and I was able to watch it using my normal DVD drive and it played fine, 720p of course. I still need to get an HD DVD drive, is the Xbox add on the best option?

Sorry if I am sounding extremely clueless but what does 'hardware acceleration is broken' mean?

I downloaded the Cyberlink Setup Advisor or whatever it was called and the only thing it said was I needed a new video card and an HD DVD drive (of course).

I cannot get hardware acceleration to work on the following: 8800GTS, 7800, FireGL 5250 (notebook). All systems have dual processors and they play all titles fine without hardware acceleration. So if the rest of your system is ok, I would just get the drive and try running it with you card. It may work fine.

- Rich

Are there any workarounds? Seems crazy I either put up with bad stutter or 2 channel sound!!

I was having the same problem as you until I switched to the analog outputs on my cards.
I use the 7 channel analog outs from my soundblaster Live! 24bit to my amp and can play back whatever audio track is on the disc fine.

I think using analog outputs is probably your best solution right now. As far as I know, SPDIF cannot handle a typical Dolby Tru HD or any sort of lossless track (too much info). What you essentialy get when you are using SPDIF is a downmix.
If anybody can confirm this I would appreciate it.

Yes, SPDIF is a downmix, unless the disk contains a normal Dolby Digital or DTS track.

I cannot get hardware acceleration to work on the following: 8800GTS, 7800, FireGL 5250 (notebook). All systems have dual processors and they play all titles fine without hardware acceleration. So if the rest of your system is ok, I would just get the drive and try running it with you card. It may work fine.

- Rich

That is so weird. I also have the 8800GTS and I can get hardware acceleration to work just fine. With it on I am around 10-18% cpu usage and when I turn it off it goes up to 30-45% on a E4300 (OC'd to 3.06ghz). I am using the 97.94 (8800) drivers from the Nvidia site.

That is so weird. I also have the 8800GTS and I can get hardware acceleration to work just fine. With it on I am around 10-18% cpu usage and when I turn it off it goes up to 30-45% on a E4300 (OC'd to 3.06ghz). I am using the 97.94 (8800) drivers from the Nvidia site.

I am using Vista but it may also have to do with the display. Not sure why that is.

- Rich

I am using Vista but it may also have to do with the display. Not sure why that is.

- Rich

I am using XP (SP2). I wonder if that makes any difference?

I was having the same problem as you until I switched to the analog outputs on my cards.
I use the 7 channel analog outs from my soundblaster Live! 24bit to my amp and can play back whatever audio track is on the disc fine.

I think using analog outputs is probably your best solution right now. As far as I know, SPDIF cannot handle a typical Dolby Tru HD or any sort of lossless track (too much info). What you essentialy get when you are using SPDIF is a downmix.
If anybody can confirm this I would appreciate it.Thanks - but I don't have those cables right now... For a DDPlus 640kbps soundtrack, I figured it was a downmix over SPDIF, but that the quality should still outdo a normal DVD soundtrack. Is that right? Does anyone have success with a SPDIF output from HD-DVD right now?

From the sounds of things, this software isn't really ready for prime time yet, huh? A few stupid questions:

1) Is the software decoding all of the audio codecs including DTS-MA? Obvious you have to use the analog connections to get it out there, but is it outputting at full bandwidth?

2) All of the 960x540p downrezzing even with HDCP cards to a HDCP display has been taken care of, correct?

Thank you,
Chris

1. It definitely decodes DTS-MA and all other advertised audio, and the sound is great on my Paradigm speaker system. As for "full bandwidth" or not, I don't think anyone can be sure how the digital to analog conversion happens, but the result to me is excellent.

2. People here have said that PowerDVD Ultra does not do downrezzing (it just refuses to play the disc when you use digital connection without HDCP). I use 1280x720p display connected through VGA. It doesn't seem to me that a a downconversion to 960x540 occurs, at least when I compare with other HD material. But I don't know why I keep seeing posts about downconversion on analog or HDMI without HDCP (the latter, as I said, is simply false - there's no playback under that scenario). Nobody from those who claim that has tried to show any kind of proof.

Thanks - but I don't have those cables right now... For a DDPlus 640kbps soundtrack, I figured it was a downmix over SPDIF, but that the quality should still outdo a normal DVD soundtrack. Is that right? Does anyone have success with a SPDIF output from HD-DVD right now?


As I recall, when I first installed my Blu-ray drive, SPDIF output was fine (through the bundled PDVD6.5). Unfortunately, after moving up to PowerDVD 7.3 (and stupidly installing other software before testing), neither format of HD (BD or HD-DVD from file) will play without audio stuttering (unless in stereo). The picture has always been pristine with CPU usage below 50%. I've been going nuts trying to figure this out and have just ordered cables to try analog -- I figured I'd like the lossless audio better anyway. I thought that maybe this was another glitch in 7.3 -- that it wasn't downmixing properly, but I think I tried reinstalling 6.5 and it did the same thing. I would also like to know if anyone has had success with SPDIF.

Thanks - but I don't have those cables right now... For a DDPlus 640kbps soundtrack, I figured it was a downmix over SPDIF, but that the quality should still outdo a normal DVD soundtrack. Is that right? Does anyone have success with a SPDIF output from HD-DVD right now?

I was having hit or miss success with DDplus and HD DVD's.
It was completely dependent on the movie. Some movies would play fine but others would give me the same problems that you describe.

I know having to buy overpriced proprietary cables from Creative (assuming you have a soundblaster) is a real drag.
Does anyone know of where to get cheap analog cables that will work with a SoundBlaster without having to buy from Creative?

Thanks

The 8600 series is expected any time now. Since hardware acceleration is broken for most of us, you should see if your system works with your current card if possible.

- Rich

Interestingly, hardware accel is broken for me in XP (93.71), but it's working in Vista (100.65). I have a 7600GT. I've even tried a fresh XP install, but no luck.

I would also like to know if anyone has had success with SPDIF.

I have no problems using SPDIF with an Auzentech Xplosion 7.1 PCI card. But I also have a total pristine clean install of XP with no additional software other than PowerDVD 7.3

I know having to buy overpriced proprietary cables from Creative (assuming you have a soundblaster) is a real drag.
Does anyone know of where to get cheap analog cables that will work with a SoundBlaster without having to buy from Creative?

ThanksI actually found some from the Creative UK store for just £10 - not sure if those are the same cables you were looking at?

http://uk.europe.creative.com/shop/product.asp?product=1076

But I also have a total pristine clean install of XP with no additional software other than PowerDVD 7.3

Yeah, I figured that's where I went wrong. I wish I knew what I added that I shouldn't have -- I can't say I didn't know any better...

Yeah, I figured that's where I went wrong. I wish I knew what I added that I shouldn't have -- I can't say I didn't know any better...

You can always re-install XP. Create a restore point after updating all hardware drivers but before installing software and then installing PowerDVD. Then create another Restore point that includes PowerDVD. Then start installing any other software that you need. If you have any problems you can always return to either the spot before you installed PDVD or right after.

Just a suggestion.

That is so weird. I also have the 8800GTS and I can get hardware acceleration to work just fine. With it on I am around 10-18% cpu usage and when I turn it off it goes up to 30-45% on a E4300 (OC'd to 3.06ghz). I am using the 97.94 (8800) drivers from the Nvidia site.

I am running XP on an 8800GTS and can run PowerDVD Ultra ONLY with hardware acceleration checked. When trying to run it without hardware accel, I get a unsupported driver error message... Does this happen with your setup? Also, none of the 9?.?? drivers work at all for my setup; I have to use one of the beta 100.?? series drivers to get universal titles to play at all.

Yeah, I figured that's where I went wrong. I wish I knew what I added that I shouldn't have -- I can't say I didn't know any better...I tried a pristine Vista installation and got the same errors. Didn't try pristine XP yet, but anyway I don't really have any 'optional' s/w installed... Looks like I'll try the analogue output or wait for a PDVD update.

I am running XP on an 8800GTS and can run PowerDVD Ultra ONLY with hardware acceleration checked. When trying to run it without hardware accel, I get a unsupported driver error message... Does this happen with your setup? Also, none of the 9?.?? drivers work at all for my setup; I have to use one of the beta 100.?? series drivers to get universal titles to play at all.

Nope. Works fine with HdwAcc turned on that I pretty much leave it on all the time. If I find a title that does not like it (can't remember off the top of my head) then I will turn it off and then it works fine.

Which of the beta drivers (3dguru) is the most stable with XP? I am using the official NVIDIA 97.94 and I haven't seen any PQ problems but PowerDVD 7.3 sometimes crashes big time.
I never got any of these drivers to work with a 7600GT. They appear to be 8800 only.

I never got any of these drivers to work with a 7600GT. They appear to be 8800 only.

After I wrote that I went with a clean install of XP and re-installed 97.94 (for the 8800's) and then re-installed Pdvd 7.3 and it has worked fine ever since.

Crossing my fingers that it will stay that way.

You can always re-install XP. Create a restore point after updating all hardware drivers but before installing software and then installing PowerDVD. Then create another Restore point that includes PowerDVD. Then start installing any other software that you need. If you have any problems you can always return to either the spot before you installed PDVD or right after.

Just a suggestion.

Thanks. That is what I figured my next step was -- just hoping to avoid it. I'm kind of a novice with the underside of windows (although I've managed to keep 4 home built PCs going so far -- not that it's hard to build a PC). Anyway, just thought I'd give the analog outputs a try before that hopefully final step.

Thanks!

Thanks - but I don't have those cables right now... For a DDPlus 640kbps soundtrack, I figured it was a downmix over SPDIF, but that the quality should still outdo a normal DVD soundtrack. Is that right? Does anyone have success with a SPDIF output from HD-DVD right now?

yeah,so long as it is not more than640, DD+ works just fine over SPDIF and my receiver recognizes it just fine. the 1500kpstracks though get downcoded to 640 so you lose the extra quality, the640 play as 640 though no downconversion to 384 or anything (at least with the title's I've tried so far).
and of coure you can get the 1500kps, DTS-MA, etc. over analog out jut fine.

I'm new to HD-DVD playback, and was tearing my hair out after getting bad stutter on my movies. After a lot of research, it seems it's the same problem referenced earlier in this thread about DDplus 640kbps output via SPDIF. Are other people still seeing this - I'm using PDVD 7.3, and tested same results on my AMD X2 4600 with both XP snd Vista, using Realtek AC97 onboard sound.

Are there any workarounds? Seems crazy I either put up with bad stutter or 2 channel sound!!

one thing is to make sure you don't have any mixer stuff set at 44.1khz, make sure stuff, in all control panels is set at 48khz! especially be careful with vista where it defaults with some cards to 44.1khz, that will make it stutter.

I've just been playing a couple of DVD-Audio DVD's on the 360 using PDVD 7.1 with a Auzentech X-Meridian sound card, 5.1 analog out into a Yamaha 6090. Sounds pretty dam good. Maybe, even be better than the Oppo 971 that I just disconnected. Might even beat SACD's on the PS3 too.

Has anyone found a way to bookmark HD movies on pc>?

Can anyone using Vista with 8800gts confirm something for me please:

In the drivers control panel, Under Video & Television, I only have 2 options I can click on (i'm in advanced view).
- Adjust Video color settings
- Adjust Television color settings

and when i click on those options, i only have ONE tab (unlike before where I had 4 tabs in xp where i could control color temp, rgb, enhancement).

Is there something im missing or an option i have turned off? Or is this how the vista drivers are? Seems more limited than xp.

Thank you!

Ok I bit the bullet and got some analog audio cables - finally stutter-free playback with 6 channel sound :)

The one confusing thing though is that a DDPlus 640 sountrack sounds somehow more 'bass-heayy' when output via analogue compared with the AC3 'downmix'. Should those two mixes output identically?

Can anyone using Vista with 8800gts confirm something for me please:

In the drivers control panel, Under Video & Television, I only have 2 options I can click on (i'm in advanced view).
- Adjust Video color settings
- Adjust Television color settings

and when i click on those options, i only have ONE tab (unlike before where I had 4 tabs in xp where i could control color temp, rgb, enhancement).

Is there something im missing or an option i have turned off? Or is this how the vista drivers are? Seems more limited than xp.

Thank you!
You're not missing anything. Many of the NVIDIA control panel options available in XP have not been implemented in the Vista drivers yet.

You're not missing anything. Many of the NVIDIA control panel options available in XP have not been implemented in the Vista drivers yet.

just downloaded the 100.70 drivers for 8800gts vista32, now I have all the options I had for the xp version and is running a lot smoother than the 100.65 available from nvidia site.

thanks

just downloaded the 100.70 drivers for 8800gts vista32, now I have all the options I had for the xp version and is running a lot smoother than the 100.65 available from nvidia site.

thanks

Are you still getting overlay when watching HD DVD's?

Are you still getting overlay when watching HD DVD's?
yes, its still overlay, it says so in the information and areo is turned off whenever i play a hd-dvd

powerdvd is a pretty buggy piece of software for vista, the image looks very good when it plays, but when playing regular DVDs, it bugs out, starts resizing, doens't full screen the DVD image (puts black bars all around the picture) so i have to keep resizing for it to finally work right....and when going fullscreen in vista for regular dvds, the windows taskbar is still visibe :/

purevideo doesnt seem to work w/ vista and the image quality for reular dvds is better with powerdvd than w/ WMP11 right now.

Possible performance booster;

I have seen a lot of complaints about stuttering and after noticing that PowerDVD increases the page file about 450mb it got me thinking.

Some of the stutter issues could be fragmented hard drive your page file sits on or the page file itself. I also noticed some gain noticeable improvement when they have formatted and re-installed thus no fragmentation and perhaps one reason for the better performance.

So if you are having stutter issues you might want to defrag then use a program like PageDefrag v2.32 (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/PageDefrag.mspx) freeware to defrag your paging files, event log files, and Registry hives during boot up, it might help.

Socio,
also, the best location for a page file is on another harddrive all together (not on the same partition as the os...and not on another partition on the same drive as the os) if possible :)

Possible performance booster;

I have seen a lot of complaints about stuttering and after noticing that PowerDVD increases the page file about 450mb it got me thinking.

Some of the stutter issues could be fragmented hard drive your page file sits on or the page file itself. I also noticed some gain noticeable improvement when they have formatted and re-installed thus no fragmentation and perhaps one reason for the better performance.

So if you are having stutter issues you might want to defrag then use a program like PageDefrag v2.32 (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/PageDefrag.mspx) freeware to defrag your paging files, event log files, and Registry hives during boot up, it might help.

Would installing more ram help?
I have seem the requirements for commersial editing HD-DVD software, and its a minimum of 4GB Ram.

Yesterday changed from 93.71 to 94.20 drivers from guru3d for my 7600GT. Banding seems gone or at least a lot better. Colors I don't know yet, it seemd better.

Still overlay though. (Easy test is to use the overlay zoom control in the nvidia panel, isn't that supposed to not work on VMR?)

I have sound dropouts though and somehow the flow is not fluent... (with 93.71 driver too...) should I reinstall, (CPU usage is <30%), but it could also be because of playing back HD-DVD over network.

Many hardware HD-DVD players read 24frames film rate and output 1080i 60Hz (some then deinterlace to 1080p) how is that with the cyberlink player, does it read 24Hz film frames the performs magic, or does it do conversion to 1080i?

I just wonder if it is better or worse to let the HTPC output 1080i and let my VP3000 deinterlace and ivtc to 24 or 28Hz..

Just been over to the Cyberlink site and there is now a download for an Ultra patch, going to build 2605n. So when I get home from work I'll give it a go and report back, good luck all.

Cheers

Just been over to the Cyberlink site and there is now a download for an Ultra patch, going to build 2605n. So when I get home from work I'll give it a go and report back, good luck all.

Cheers

Thanks for the info!

I can't seem to find the patch though on the cyberlink site. If anybody could help that would be great.

Thanks in advance.

Here we go;

http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/download/patches_112_ENU.html

You beat me to it, twice :)

I wonder if this *works* with AnyDVD?

- Rich

The patch is 66.9mb that is a big patch!

New version of AnyDVD HD out as well;

Anydvd Update 6.1.3.5 2007 04 10
- New (Blu-ray): Improved removal of region code
- New: Workaround for compatibility problems with 3rd party drivers
- Some minor fixes and improvements
- Updated languages


http://static.slysoft.com/SetupAnyDVD.exe

The patch is 66.9mb that is a big patch!

I would suspect that this a complete new install, as it updates so that Blu-ray and HD-DVD can be run from the same install. I know when I asked about a dual install they supplied a link to 2605b (which is 7.3), so I am guesiing that the 2605n is a newer version of that.

Yet to test what the differences are though.

Ricky

I would suspect that this a complete new install, as it updates so that Blu-ray and HD-DVD can be run from the same install. I know when I asked about a dual install they supplied a link to 2605b (which is 7.3), so I am guesiing that the 2605n is a newer version of that.

Yet to test what the differences are though.

Ricky

I'd just be pleased if I could watch my films.....off home in a bit to try

Have a good weekend all

Right, got home and had a quick play. Some good news and some bad.....

Firstly it doesn't seem to update over 7.2, you have to go to 7.3 before it'll install, great start.

Once done, thankfully sub-titles appear to have gone, thank you.

The problems I was having with 7.3 and the 0103 error have gone

The 'unrated' discs I had like 'wolf-creek' now run fine without a parental warning

Unfortunately though 'Hulk' still doesn't play properly, so back to the bottom of the cupboard for that one...

All in all not to bad, if I find anything else playing this evening I'll report in.

Cheers

I am tempted to install this patch, but hesitate to do so because I don't want to "break" anything. Thus far, I have not had any major issues with PowerDVD Ultra on my Vista Ultimate system. Will wait a bit longer to see how things go with others who take the plunge. The Cyberlink website is useless - there is no release notes or info on what exactly this patch is supposed to do!

I should have said I'm running XP

Oh and my stuttering with 640kbs sound tracks is still there :mad:

Other than that they appear to have fixed a fair few bits this time.....

Cheers

ok

I bought ultra in January -- it seems to be 7.2

downloaded the patch -- will not install

guess as per another post I need to be at 7.3

so I go to call Cyberlink or login to my registration account

can any company make it harder to figure out how to upgrade my software

no phone number -- gigantic web form - filling out tons of stuff

I just want to patch the software

suggestions

thanks

When I was at the patch download page and click on System Requirements, I noticed the following:

Screen Resolution
1024 x 768 or 1280 x 1024

Does this mean PowerDVD always downscales from 1920 x 1080 to lower resolutions?

This requirement is not mentioned in their system requirement under
http://www.cyberlink.com/english/support/bdhd_support/system_requirement.jsp

I broke down and used their web form and they send me the link to upgrade

I did so and patched the software tot he current build

In Dune -- I still have subtitles I can not turn off

Have not tried other titles yet -- I have about 15 HDDVD now

will tried some other

still a buggy mess I think

So is it that only 7.3 can be patched? I tried to patch my 7.1 version and got some funny message about my version being obsolete, or something like that.

Looks like their another new version of AnyDVD HD released;

http://static.slysoft.com/SetupAnyDVD6136.exe

6.1.3.6 2007 04 13
- Fix: AnyDVD 6.1.3.5 did not work correctly on Windows 2000
- Some minor fixes and improvements
- Updated languages

I downloaded and installed the new patch. Good news for ATI owners, it appears to have fixed the "Incompatible Graphics Driver" error when playing VC-1 HD-DVD discs. I have only tried one disc (Serenity), but so far it plays fine from the XBOX 360 drive (no more having to rip to the hard drive first).

My configuration:
Overclocked E4300
Radeon X1650
Catalyst 7.3
PowerDVD 7.3 with patch

I bought Cyberlink DVD Ultra tonight to play HD DVDs via my new Xbox 360 HD DVD drive and I have to say I am impressed with it.. working great so far. :) playing over an 8800GTX video card..

King Kong will now play without subtitles

Dune will not

turning on hardware acceleration crashes the program

I have HDCP complain Nvidia 7600GT card

I can play from xbox360 drive and HD rip

program is better, but still needs a lot of work

It frustration that so many different HD DVD behave so differently..

I also have two nice standalone players from toshiba -- they have update their firmware 2 x in the month I've had the player

one HDDVD - Happy Feet -- stops hard at the same palce in the movie on both players

Some nice CGI in the HF movie, but it is only HDDVD I wish I had not bought..



I broke down and used their web form and they send me the link to upgrade

I did so and patched the software tot he current build

In Dune -- I still have subtitles I can not turn off

Have not tried other titles yet -- I have about 15 HDDVD now

will tried some other

still a buggy mess I think

King Kong will now play without subtitles

Dune will not

I can play from xbox360 drive and HD rip

If you are playing from rips, you can edit out the subtitles (for those titles that won't stop playing the subtitles) in the XPL file. This is almost mandatory for numerous titles on HD DVD.

pointers to a "how to"??

thanks



If you are playing from rips, you can edit out the subtitles (for those titles that won't stop playing the subtitles) in the XPL file. This is almost mandatory for numerous titles on HD DVD.

pointers to a "how to"??

thanks

Its quite simple. Make sure you back-up any files you edit before you edit them.

1)Open the VPLST000.XPL (located inside the ADV_OBJ folder) in a text editor.
2)Look for the following:

<Title id="feature" displayName="Feature Presentation" titleNumber="3" titleDuration="02:34:33:20" tickBaseDivisor="4" onEnd="black">
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" titleTimeEnd="01:17:16:10" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/PEVOB_1.MAP" dataSource="Disc">
<Video mediaAttr="1" track="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="1" description="English 5.1" streamNumber="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="2" track="2" description="English MLP" streamNumber="2"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="3" description="French 5.1" streamNumber="3"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="4" description="Spanish 5.1" streamNumber="4"/>
<Subtitle mediaAttr="1" track="1" description="English" streamNumber="1"/>
<Subtitle mediaAttr="1" track="2" description="English SDH" streamNumber="2"/>
<Subtitle mediaAttr="1" track="3" description="French" streamNumber="3"/>
<Subtitle mediaAttr="1" track="4" description="Spanish" streamNumber="4"/>


4)Edit out (delete) any references to "Subtitle". Your new XPL will look like this:

<Title id="feature" displayName="Feature Presentation" titleNumber="3" titleDuration="02:34:33:20" tickBaseDivisor="4" onEnd="black">
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" titleTimeEnd="01:17:16:10" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/PEVOB_1.MAP" dataSource="Disc">
<Video mediaAttr="1" track="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="1" description="English 5.1" streamNumber="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="2" track="2" description="English MLP" streamNumber="2"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="3" description="French 5.1" streamNumber="3"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="4" description="Spanish 5.1" streamNumber="4"/>


PS. There may be several places where the subtitles appear so you may have to delete several subtitle references. Most titles have one or two. Some have up to 4.

5)Save the new edited file back into its original location.
6)You should now have a playable title with absolutely no subtitles. If you ever want to use your subtitles, place the original file (the un-edited one) back into its original location (see why you need to save it before editing?)

Oh dear, here we go again, I'm back to having 'error 0013' again, even stuff that was playing earlier so since a re-start it's all gone wrong again. I have tried re-loading endlessly :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I really have had enough of this now

thanks



Its quite simple. Make sure you back-up any files you edit before you edit them.

1)Open the VPLST000.XPL (located inside the ADV_OBJ folder) in a text editor.
2)Look for the following:

<Title id="feature" displayName="Feature Presentation" titleNumber="3" titleDuration="02:34:33:20" tickBaseDivisor="4" onEnd="black">
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" titleTimeEnd="01:17:16:10" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/PEVOB_1.MAP" dataSource="Disc">
<Video mediaAttr="1" track="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="1" description="English 5.1" streamNumber="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="2" track="2" description="English MLP" streamNumber="2"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="3" description="French 5.1" streamNumber="3"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="4" description="Spanish 5.1" streamNumber="4"/>
<Subtitle mediaAttr="1" track="1" description="English" streamNumber="1"/>
<Subtitle mediaAttr="1" track="2" description="English SDH" streamNumber="2"/>
<Subtitle mediaAttr="1" track="3" description="French" streamNumber="3"/>
<Subtitle mediaAttr="1" track="4" description="Spanish" streamNumber="4"/>


4)Edit out (delete) any references to "Subtitle". Your new XPL will look like this:

<Title id="feature" displayName="Feature Presentation" titleNumber="3" titleDuration="02:34:33:20" tickBaseDivisor="4" onEnd="black">
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" titleTimeEnd="01:17:16:10" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/PEVOB_1.MAP" dataSource="Disc">
<Video mediaAttr="1" track="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="1" description="English 5.1" streamNumber="1"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="2" track="2" description="English MLP" streamNumber="2"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="3" description="French 5.1" streamNumber="3"/>
<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="4" description="Spanish 5.1" streamNumber="4"/>


PS. There may be several places where the subtitles appear so you may have to delete several subtitle references. Most titles have one or two. Some have up to 4.

5)Save the new edited file back into its original location.
6)You should now have a playable title with absolutely no subtitles. If you ever want to use your subtitles, place the original file (the un-edited one) back into its original location (see why you need to save it before editing?)

no more having to rip to the hard drive firstNo reason to do this if you have AnyDVD HD running.

Although, I really can't believe that Cyberlink can't get this HDCP crap sorted out. The Advisor reports all green, but the player doesn't seem to know that everything is compliant......

I have opened several tickets on this with Cyberlink, and it's still not fixed......

Vern

thanks

In that same XPL file, you can delete other things, like what gets played first, the menu, extras, etc..

If you do delete those, you need to make sure the "Feature Presentation" is set to "=1". It's normally =2 or =3.

If you're at 80% with VC1 titles you probably won't have a watchable picture with h.264 encoded titles (bad stutters).
Not sure about hd mpeg2 transfers , maybe someone else can comment.

Which titles are encoded in h.264? Is this the same as AVC?

At the moment I have the pc connected to my processor digitally by coaxial. So I get Dolby Digital from HD-DVDs and BD. I know that to listen to the Dolby Digital TrueHD or DTS MA or LPCM soundtracks I have to use analogue. If I do that what should I do in Powerdvd so that it decodes the lossless formats and ouputs it over analogue to my processor? Is there something I should do in windows also?

I have Xbox HD DVD drive + PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 + AnyDVD HD. How do you watch the SD version of an HD DVD that also includes SD version?

I have King Kong and Phantom of the Opera and their boxes both say 480i version included. I can play their HD versions. But their on screen DVD menus don't have a choice for SD. If I go into PowerDVD configuration -> HD DVD, and check "down convert to SD", that makes no difference to the picture. So how do I get SD?

I have Xbox HD DVD drive + PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 + AnyDVD HD. How do you watch the SD version of an HD DVD that also includes SD version?

I have King Kong and Phantom of the Opera and their boxes both say 480i version included. I can play their HD versions. But their on screen DVD menus don't have a choice for SD. If I go into PowerDVD configuration -> HD DVD, and check "down convert to SD", that makes no difference to the picture. So how do I get SD?

I'm not sure about KK or Phantom but some of the titles I have (Happy Feet, Superman Returns) have regular DVD version on the flip side.

HTH, Davie.

At the moment I have the pc connected to my processor digitally by coaxial. So I get Dolby Digital from HD-DVDs and BD. I know that to listen to the Dolby Digital TrueHD or DTS MA or LPCM soundtracks I have to use analogue. If I do that what should I do in Powerdvd so that it decodes the lossless formats and ouputs it over analogue to my processor? Is there something I should do in windows also?

I haven't done it myself (yet) but from what I've read you will need to change Audio output to '7 speakers' instead of SPDIF (Confiuration/Audio tab)-- this way PowerDVD will do audio decoding instead of your receiver -- I don't think you need to do anything in Windows.

HTH, Davie.

I'm not sure about KK or Phantom but some of the titles I have (Happy Feet, Superman Returns) have regular DVD version on the flip side.

HTH, Davie.
My bad. The KK and Phantom boxes only say "special features" are in 480i.

At the moment I have the pc connected to my processor digitally by coaxial. So I get Dolby Digital from HD-DVDs and BD. I know that to listen to the Dolby Digital TrueHD or DTS MA or LPCM soundtracks I have to use analogue. If I do that what should I do in Powerdvd so that it decodes the lossless formats and ouputs it over analogue to my processor? Is there something I should do in windows also?

Yeah just set the Speaker Enviroment to how many speakers you have (5.1 = 6). In the output mode you can select different audio processes too, but I just leave on No Effect so I can keep the audio more 'clean'.

I just happened on something interesting (to me anyway, novice that I am): I had been experiencing the audio stuttering on the HD-DVD files as others have (through SPDIF). I have found that I don't get the stuttering when "use hardware acceleration" is checked in the VIDEO tab of PDVD7.3. But, of course some files then play with video stuttering (others are perfect). When I uncheck "use hardware acceleration" the video is fine, but audio stuttering returns. I will be switching to the analog outs soon anyway, I just thought this didn't seem to make sense -- I thought the hardware acceleration in PDVD's video tab should only affect the video. (I'm using an 8800GTS with the patched PDVD7.3.) Granted, I don't know much about the nuts and bolts of all this.

What type of problems were you having. My issue was a blank screen on the feature presentation. Turning off U-Control in the menu didn't work. IMHO, it appears powerdvd can't handle sub pictures (PIP) because of overlay. With VMR this issue should go away. In the meanwhile, you can disable the U-Control sub picture stuff by commenting it out in the XPL like so:

<!--
<SubVideo track="1"/>
<SubAudio track="1" streamNumber="1" mediaAttr="1"/>
-->

Does anyone else have to comment out the subvideo track (like shown above) in WinXP and PDVD 7.3 + Patch for movies with U-Control?

The newly released patch fixed my HD DVD playback issue! I am now able to playback HD DVD content over Component out using an ATI x1600 in XP MCE2005 without getting the dreaded Error 0013 - incompatible graphics driver.

Even after the patch though I am still unable to playback some standard DVDs! Has anybody had this issue or is everybody here only concerned with HD and Blue Ray playback?

When trying to play Shaun of the Dead I get:
"The TV Out Port of your display is not working properly"
"This copy protected disc can not be played when the TV out function is enabled"

King Kong will now play without subtitles

Dune will not

turning on hardware acceleration crashes the program

....


I have this problem with 7.1 on a 7600GS card (latest beta drivers as well as official drivers). Playback seems okay yet CPU up around 80% or higher (E6600). It would be nice to have hardware acceleration working. HOW??

I have this problem with 7.1 on a 7600GS card (latest beta drivers as well as official drivers). Playback seems okay yet CPU up around 80% or higher (E6600). It would be nice to have hardware acceleration working. HOW??

Hopefully the next drivers will fix this tomorrow - they're going for quite a generation leap, to something like 158.xx

Hopefully the next drivers will fix this tomorrow - they're going for quite a generation leap, to something like 158.xx

Thanks for the reply. Do you know if that was an objective, or just wishful thinking? I'm all for wishful thinking, of course :-)

Thanks for the reply. Do you know if that was an objective, or just wishful thinking? I'm all for wishful thinking, of course :-)

There never was much hope, Frodo :)

Thanks for the reply. Do you know if that was an objective, or just wishful thinking? I'm all for wishful thinking, of course :-)

There never was much hope, Frodo. :)

There never was much hope, Frodo. :)

I think that was Gandalf to Pippin, but I take your point :-)

Any ideas from anyone if the HW acceleration would work if I instead had an ATI card in there, such as the X1950?

Many hardware HD-DVD players read 24frames film rate and output 1080i 60Hz (some then deinterlace to 1080p) how is that with the cyberlink player, does it read 24Hz film frames then performs scaling magic, or does it do conversion to 1080i?
I just wonder if it is better or worse to let the HTPC output 1080i and let my VP3000 deinterlace and ivtc to 24 or 28Hz..
Anyone a clue on what powerdvd does?

I have this problem with 7.1 on a 7600GS card (latest beta drivers as well as official drivers). Playback seems okay yet CPU up around 80% or higher (E6600). It would be nice to have hardware acceleration working. HOW??

They must be getting closer since the hardware acceleration works fine with the 8800GTS with the official 97.94 drivers. So maybe the new drivers will provide the same for older cards.

Thanks for the reply. Do you know if that was an objective, or just wishful thinking? I'm all for wishful thinking, of course :-)

Well, the drivers exist, I've used em on my XP machine :-) The rumour was always they were due for tomorrow, and it makes sense because that's when the 8600 and co are being released

Not so sure about Vista drivers unfortunately.

Thanks for the info, both of you.

How'd you manage to get the drivers before release? :-)

I think that was Gandalf to Pippin, but I take your point :-)

Any ideas from anyone if the HW acceleration would work if I instead had an ATI card in there, such as the X1950?

Well ATi has Avivo (http://ati.amd.com/technology/Avivo/index.html)

H.264 Video DecodingH.264;
Blu-ray and HD-DVD media are poised to revolutionize video as we know it. ATI Avivo offers hardware acceleration for H.264 playback, thus providing a key piece in making Blu-ray and HD-DVD a reality in the PC environment. Enjoy high definition picture fidelity unlike anything ever seen before.

However it does not appear to accelerate HD DVD playback, at least with PowerDVD even though Hardware Acceleration is checked once the HD DVD movie starts and you look at the video tab the Hardware acceleration is unchecked and grayed out.

Thanks for the info, both of you.

How'd you manage to get the drivers before release? :-)

Leaked:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=221342&page=5

Hey,

I have issue with PDVD 7.3 and ATI X1250 integrated chipset (with C2D 2.4G).
Hardware is 100% "FULL HD Ready" : ABIT Fatal1ty F-I90HD (chipset RS690G + ATI Radeon Xpress 1250 via HDMI (HDCP compliant)

Playback of a 1080p VC1 (.WMV) or 1080p H.264 (.mov) is perfect with MPC when Directshow video "System Default" is set. When I set Overlay Mixer or VMR9... Playback sucks.

So my question is, can I disable overlay in PDVD 7.3 to play HD DVD smoothly ?

MyMovies 2.3 beta is now avaiable for download.

http://www.mymovies.name/downloads.aspx

Integrates PowerDVD 7.3 into MCE so you can play your BluRay and HD DVD direct from MediaCenter.

Seems to work pretty well so for, but remember it is a beta release.

MyMovies 2.3 beta is now avaiable for download.

http://www.mymovies.name/downloads.aspx

Integrates PowerDVD 7.3 into MCE so you can play your BluRay and HD DVD direct from MediaCenter.

Seems to work pretty well so for, but remember it is a beta release.

Very cool, thanks for the heads up. I'm assuming it'll worked with backed up Blu-Ray and HD-DVD discs?

Very cool, thanks for the heads up. I'm assuming it'll worked with backed up Blu-Ray and HD-DVD discs?

Yes, that's all I'm using it for. Not sure how it would work with a bluray/HDDVD drive.

For those of us who aren't quite ready to purchase a new HDTV and Video card with HDCP, watching HD-DVD and Blu-Ray via an analog connection is the only option. From what I can tell reading this thread, there are many HTPC users who have done this successfully on an older 1080i display via component or RGBHV.

I have not been able to resolve an issue where only the top half of the picture is displayed when the resolution is set to 1920x1080@30hz. This is not the same as those who have described the zoom of the upper left corner of the picture. I've tried to change the Anti-Aliasing 3D settings with no effect, tried all the available Nvidia drivers, Component/DVI or VGA, and re-loaded Vista.

Whether in a window or full-screen it appears as if the full image is twice the height of the current display. This is consistent on every title. If I play SD DVDs or HD Mpeg material the image correctly fills the screen. If I reduce the resolution to 720x480p it works fine. :confused:

Cyberlink tech support tells me the problem is being researched, but I think that's the standard answer after you've given them all the info they request.

My setup:
Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe - Athlon 64 x2 4600
2 GB DDR2 800
6800GS 256MB (101.41)
Vista x86 Ultimate
PowerDVD 6.5, 7.2, 7.3
Mitsubishi CRT RPTV

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

For those of us who aren't quite ready to purchase a new HDTV and Video card with HDCP, watching HD-DVD and Blu-Ray via an analog connection is the only option. From what I can tell reading this thread, there are many HTPC users who have done this successfully on an older 1080i display via component or RGBHV.

I have not been able to resolve an issue where only the top half of the picture is displayed when the resolution is set to 1920x1080@30hz. This is not the same as those who have described the zoom of the upper left corner of the picture. I've tried to change the Anti-Aliasing 3D settings with no effect, tried all the available Nvidia drivers, Component/DVI or VGA, and re-loaded Vista.

Whether in a window or full-screen it appears as if the full image is twice the height of the current display. This is consistent on every title. If I play SD DVDs or HD Mpeg material the image correctly fills the screen. If I reduce the resolution to 720x480p it works fine. :confused:

Cyberlink tech support tells me the problem is being researched, but I think that's the standard answer after you've given them all the info they request.

My setup:
Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe - Athlon 64 x2 4600
2 GB DDR2 800
6800GS 256MB (101.41)
Vista x86 Ultimate
PowerDVD 6.5, 7.2, 7.3
Mitsubishi CRT RPTV

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Actually, AnyDVDHD is another option that works great. My monitor doesn't support HDCP, everything else in my system is up to their required spec though, so I just run AnyDVDHD in the background and all my Blu-Ray and HD-DVD discs play back outstanding.

Actually, AnyDVDHD is another option that works great. My monitor doesn't support HDCP, everything else in my system is up to their required spec though, so I just run AnyDVDHD in the background and all my Blu-Ray and HD-DVD discs play back outstanding.

What resolution is your display? Is it interlaced? I suspect that if my Mits TV could support a digital connection or 720p/1080p, I would not have this problem....

I'm having a weird problem. Nvidia 7600GS, today's driver, Xbox 360 drive. If I play a ripped DVD, no problem. If I play the actual DVD, it plays fine for maybe five minutes and then playback stops. PowerDVD stays running, but the movie completely goes away, with no error messages. Ideas??

If you are on Vista, make sure tht both the screen saver and display power management are disabled.

Vern

If you are on Vista, make sure tht both the screen saver and display power management are disabled.

Vern

Thanks for the response. I'm on XP. I should also mention this happens regardless of digital/analog display, and regardless of whether or not AnyDVD is running! Is it possible the latest patched version of PowerDVD is detecting my non-HDCP video card and quitting? (And ignoring AnyDVD)?

For those of us who aren't quite ready to purchase a new HDTV and Video card with HDCP, watching HD-DVD and Blu-Ray via an analog connection is the only option. From what I can tell reading this thread, there are many HTPC users who have done this successfully on an older 1080i display via component or RGBHV.

I have not been able to resolve an issue where only the top half of the picture is displayed when the resolution is set to 1920x1080@30hz. This is not the same as those who have described the zoom of the upper left corner of the picture. I've tried to change the Anti-Aliasing 3D settings with no effect, tried all the available Nvidia drivers, Component/DVI or VGA, and re-loaded Vista.

Whether in a window or full-screen it appears as if the full image is twice the height of the current display. This is consistent on every title. If I play SD DVDs or HD Mpeg material the image correctly fills the screen. If I reduce the resolution to 720x480p it works fine. :confused:

Cyberlink tech support tells me the problem is being researched, but I think that's the standard answer after you've given them all the info they request.

My setup:
Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe - Athlon 64 x2 4600
2 GB DDR2 800
6800GS 256MB (101.41)
Vista x86 Ultimate
PowerDVD 6.5, 7.2, 7.3
Mitsubishi CRT RPTV

Any help would be greatly appreciated!I had this problem using a 7600GT and Powerstrip to set the 1920x1080i resolution that I wanted. When I removed Powerstrip and just selected the standard 1080i resolution in the Nvidia control panel, the problem went away. The Nvidia drivers seem to be very picky about the timings used when displaying overlay in an interlaced resolution. Hope this helps.

No, if it had an issue detecting the video card, the playback will fail within 5 seconds or less after the protected video begins. Just for grins, make sure the screen saver and power save for the video card are disabled anyhow.

Vern

What resolution is your display? Is it interlaced? I suspect that if my Mits TV could support a digital connection or 720p/1080p, I would not have this problem....

Display is 1080p. But, all AnyDVDHD does is strip the encryption. With reclock and proper timings, I do believe many people have gotten interlaced projectors working, even at 24fps.

No, if it had an issue detecting the video card, the playback will fail within 5 seconds or less after the protected video begins. Just for grins, make sure the screen saver and power save for the video card are disabled anyhow.

Vern

Will look into that, thanks. It seemed to be working well tonight for a while, then got flaky. Perhaps my Xbox drive is prone to failure as it gets hot??

Will look into that, thanks. It seemed to be working well tonight for a while, then got flaky. Perhaps my Xbox drive is prone to failure as it gets hot??

No luck with that. The problem seemed to get worse over time, to the point that it would stop playing after 30 seconds. I even tried a complete system reinstall. I guess now I'll start the process of changing something, testing, changing something else, etc. Perhaps starting with the video driver, and then the video card itself.

CPU overheating maybe? Video card overheating? Power supply not strong enough?

Vern

I have been trying out the new 7.3n version that is on the web site. I also upgraded the 8800GTS drivers to the 158.18 drivers.

I can run hardware acceleration better and when engaged it does run with VMR (according to the Information tab). I still stutter with Mpeg4 titles and with the Matador I crash almost immediately. These titles play fine without hardware acceleration. Also, when hardware acceleration is off, I am in overlay mode.

- Rich

People with the studdering problem with hddvds, does it "unfreeze" it self after like 10-15 secs, the audio comes back and then slow the video catches up with in a few sec? i noticed this with we were once soldiers and riddick. i was using spif, so i switch to analog hoping it was just bandwidth issue but it still did it. Only did it once in the movie and rest was fine. While it was doing it my hard drive was going nuts every time, but all other apps on pc would open close fine (media center, my computer ect) just was power dvd.

using latest 7.3 patch, 6700 core duo 8800gtx 158.18 drivers and realtek hd onboard sound on vista.

CPU overheating maybe? Video card overheating? Power supply not strong enough?

Vern

Yeah, all of these had occurred to me... but what a pain to try to troubleshoot!!

I use 7.3 and it crashes my whole system anytime I watch an AVC/H264 encoded movie on either Blu-Ray or HD-DVD with hardware acceleration on. It occurs after about 10 minutes of viewing. It works fine if I turn hardware acceleration off. I suspect its my video card overheating, but temp monitors show barely any uptick in temperature when I am watching and its odd that my system is rock solid when I watch a VC1 or MP2 encoded BD/HD-DVD or playing games or running memtest/TAT. I have a GeForce 8800GTS running the latest drviers on 32bit Vista and a Core2Duo 6400. Been trying to figure this out for over a month with no luck. Even added extra cooling to the video card with no luck. Also tried underclocking the video card and it still crashes. Was hoping the new drivers nVidia just released for Vista would help, but no luck there either.

Things like this are so annoying. I suppose that's the price of being an early adopter. Did the early DVD adopters have pains like this? Probably... wait a minute, I was one... I had a Creative Dxr2 decoder board with the VGA passthrough cable. Remember that? As I recall it worked like a charm with no problem!

I had this problem using a 7600GT and Powerstrip to set the 1920x1080i resolution that I wanted. When I removed Powerstrip and just selected the standard 1080i resolution in the Nvidia control panel, the problem went away. The Nvidia drivers seem to be very picky about the timings used when displaying overlay in an interlaced resolution. Hope this helps.

Many thanks sigma957!!! :D That solved the problem - I would have never guessed that timing would effect the overlay so much.

However, solving one problem often creates others...... I could not find a Vista driver version which supports 1080i (without Powerstrip) over the VGA or DVI, so I had to use the Component HDTV connector. That creates a new issue for PowerDVD - I get an error after a few seconds of video that has to do with protected content. AnyDVD HD took care of that, and I was able to watch my BD and HD DVD titles without issue!!! But how long will that last????

Well the latest nVidia Xp Forceware drivers v158.19 no longer work with PowerDVD 7.3 @ 1080 resolution. They work at 800 x 600 though.

I had to go back to 97.94. Anyone else have success with the 8800 series driver?

The movie goes to play but then stops and pops a window asking me to download the HDBD advisor. Funny thing is, I get all green dots in the advisor.

Once I downgraded the driver, it worked perfect again. I did a complete un-install on both the drivers and PD7.3. Still no go.

Guess it's to Vista once TheaterTek goes Vista (version 2.5...hopefully this weekend).

Well the latest nVidia Xp Forceware drivers v158.19 no longer work with PowerDVD 7.3 @ 1080 resolution. They work at 800 x 600 though.

I had to go back to 97.94. Anyone else have success with the 8800 series driver?

My issue with the 158.19 is for HDTV over DVI on Windows XP, Nvidia 7600GS. I first had a heck of a time selecting 720p. In the "custom resolutions" I would create a resolution, but it wouldn't appear in the box which lists all custom resolutions. I finally managed to get 720p display, but after a reboot the driver seemed to "forget" my selections. Over the component output, I had no such issues.

I'm still having the issue where PowerDVD simply stops playing after a minute or four, but I believe that is a power issue. I noticed in my BIOS that the 3.3V line "went red" - dropped below an acceptable level, I suppose. This could impact my AGP video card and USB HD DVD drive, I imagine...

Who can tell me why 7.3 uses overlay on ATI-based cars and if there is a way to force VMR9 instead?

Also, what does 7.3 use on nvidia-based systems, overlay or VMR9?

Thanks.

Also, what does 7.3 use on nvidia-based systems, overlay or VMR9?

Thanks.

With the 8800 series cards if you turn off hardware acceleration (H/A) it will use overlay but with H/A turned on it will use use VMR9.

Yeah, all of these had occurred to me... but what a pain to try to troubleshoot!!

It was the power supply. Replaced a 380W unit with a new 600W, 4x18A rail unit and no more problems....

Also, what does 7.3 use on nvidia-based systems, overlay or VMR9?


Excepting the 8800 as above (and possibly the 8500/8600), 7.3 uses overlay for HDDVD and VMR9 renderless for Bluray.

This is likely just a stupid bug, because you can feed a decrypted HDDVD through Cyberlink's own AVC decoder in graphedit, and use VMR7/9/EVR whatever no problem.

I have been trying out the new 7.3n version that is on the web site. I also upgraded the 8800GTS drivers to the 158.18 drivers.

I can run hardware acceleration better and when engaged it does run with VMR (according to the Information tab). I still stutter with Mpeg4 titles and with the Matador I crash almost immediately. These titles play fine without hardware acceleration. Also, when hardware acceleration is off, I am in overlay mode.

- Rich

What exactly does the Information tab say?

What exactly does the Information tab say?

With Hardware Acceleration on:

Surface Type: Hardware Video Acceleration (DxVA)
Video Accelerator: DirectX VA (In use)

With Hardware Acceleration off:

Surface Type: Overlay
Video Accelerator: DirectX VA (Not in use)

- Rich

You get a lot more information than I get.

Guys,

I have Vista installed, Nvidia 7900 GTO, 158.18/19 Drivers, Powerdvd Ultra 7.3.

My problem is that when i try to play a backup HDDVD my screen becomes totally green. I know the file is playing because i do get sound but no picture.

Any ideas how i can solve this?

I have Vista installed, Nvidia 7900 GTO, 158.18/19 Drivers, Powerdvd Ultra 7.3.

My problem is that when i try to play a backup HDDVD my screen becomes totally green. I know the file is playing because i do get sound but no picture.

Any ideas how i can solve this?

Turn off hardware acceleration. I get this also with two different cards (7300GS/GT), using Vista. All drivers later than >100.65 have the greenscreen bug with VC1 discs when accelerated for me.

I ust tested it and here is the strange thing:

Harware acceleration unchecked:

Powerdvd in windowed mode> complete screen goes bezerk! Blue/Green, artifacts.


Hardware Acceleration checked:

Powerdvd in windowed mode> video in the window goes green.

In both situations the desktop goes to vista basic (non-transparent).

? Any clues?

? Any clues?

Urrgh, what a mess. It seems every driver/card combo has different bugs....

Hey,

I have issue with PDVD 7.3 and ATI X1250 integrated chipset (with C2D 2.4G).
Hardware is 100% "FULL HD Ready" : ABIT Fatal1ty F-I90HD (chipset RS690G + ATI Radeon Xpress 1250 via HDMI (HDCP compliant)

Playback of a 1080p VC1 (.WMV) or 1080p H.264 (.mov) is perfect with MPC when Directshow video "System Default" is set. When I set Overlay Mixer or VMR9... Playback sucks.

So my question is, can I disable overlay in PDVD 7.3 to play HD DVD smoothly ?


I am in the same boat as you are using an asus m2a-vm-hdmi and AMD x2 4800+. I can play 1080i mpeg2 or H.264 stutter free in MPC but once I try VMR9 I have stuttering.

Powerdvd 7.3 has the same issue, stutters for any Blu-Ray titles I try using the 1080i component out from the motherboard. I'm running catalyst 7.3 drivers and wondering if any 1250x user has been able to play stutter free Blu-ray titles with 1080i or for that matter 1080p?

Does PowerDVD Ultra has an issue with DTS-HD? I just got the japanese version of XXX and my right rear speaker doesn't make a peep during the whole movie. I don't have any other disc with DTS-HD yet, so I can't test anything else.

Anybody else having problems playing Smokin' Aces to play? before I updated the program it skipped a bit but play - same for King Kong. But after the update King Kong plays flawlessly and Aces doesn't even get recognized..weird - any tips?

ALSO - it says player application update and when I click on update it crashes - can anyone post a link to the page it brings you to? I am so frustrated as it only requests it with smokin' aces and ALWAYS crashes when I click update - I restart and it does it again- I updated from the only link I could find on their site but I guess I will have to contact cyberlink

I cannot play DVE HD DVD. The menus can be navigated to Play All. The Play all menu is the only one shown which I think is a problem.

Can anyone play this title?

- Rich

With Hardware Acceleration on:

Surface Type: Hardware Video Acceleration (DxVA)
Video Accelerator: DirectX VA (In use)

With Hardware Acceleration off:

Surface Type: Overlay
Video Accelerator: DirectX VA (Not in use)

- Rich

I've always been getting the same, and I'm still with drivers 97.46 for Vista on 7950 GT. I'm not sure what the first set of parameters means, at least not sure if it's VMR9. While playing a hi-def disc, PowerDVD's brightness, contrast, etc. don't change if I move the "Desktop color adjustment" sliders in Nvidia control panel - it proves (does it?) that it is not VMR9. I can't take any print screens. I can't say it is overlay either, because the "Video color adjustments" don't work.
I do see a difference in colors when I turn off hardware accelleration, and I like it more with HW acceleration on.
In other words, I don't know what exactly the description
"Surface Type: Hardware Video Acceleration (DxVA)
Video Accelerator: DirectX VA (In use)"
means, but I have a feeling it's not a proof that VMR9 is used.

For those who might not be aware where the above information comes from, it is accessible from Configuration->Information during playback from the right click menu - not "Show Information".

I've always been getting the same, and I'm still with drivers 97.46 for Vista on 7950 GT.

Easy way to tell: if it switches to basic mode, it's overlay (cos that's incompatible with Aero).

Excepting the 8800 as above (and possibly the 8500/8600), 7.3 uses overlay for HDDVD and VMR9 renderless for Bluray.

This is likely just a stupid bug, because you can feed a decrypted HDDVD through Cyberlink's own AVC decoder in graphedit, and use VMR7/9/EVR whatever no problem.

Hey arfster thanks!!

I have to look at graphedit now. I live, I learn...:D

Easy way to tell: if it switches to basic mode, it's overlay (cos that's incompatible with Aero).

Yes, it does switch to basic. In other words, no VMR with hi-def discs in PowerDVD yet.

I ust tested it and here is the strange thing:

Harware acceleration unchecked:

Powerdvd in windowed mode> complete screen goes bezerk! Blue/Green, artifacts.


Hardware Acceleration checked:

Powerdvd in windowed mode> video in the window goes green.

In both situations the desktop goes to vista basic (non-transparent).

? Any clues?

I had the green screen for any VC1 content (AVC and MPEG2 were OK) with the latest Nvidia drivers for Vista 32. Went back to 97.46, problem solved.

I'm still getting error 0013, no amount of reinstalls in any oder are letting 7.3 work at all now. Back to 7.1 and all the problems with that.

I can't wait for someone else to bring out some proper software instead of this beta rubbish, getting reallt hacked off with it all now. :mad: :mad:

I'm still getting error 0013, no amount of reinstalls in any oder are letting 7.3 work at all now. Back to 7.1 and all the problems with that.

I can't wait for someone else to bring out some proper software instead of this beta rubbish, getting reallt hacked off with it all now. :mad: :mad:

Have tried many times to update from PDVD 7.1 to 7.3 but it never would work. 7.3 would give 0013 error. Applying the 7.3n update would create an error "Error applying transforms". Finally ran "Your uninstaller : 2006 Pro" software and 7.3n patch installed and PDVD 7.3 is working fine now with Cat 7.4 drivers on ATI X1950XT

Have tried many times to update from PDVD 7.1 to 7.3 but it never would work. 7.3 would give 0013 error. Applying the 7.3n update would create an error "Error applying transforms". Finally ran "Your uninstaller : 2006 Pro" software and 7.3n patch installed and PDVD 7.3 is working fine now with Cat 7.4 drivers on ATI X1950XT


Cheers I'll have a look for "Your uninstaller : 2006 Pro" and give it a go.

Cheers I'll have a look for "Your uninstaller : 2006 Pro" and give it a go.

give it a shot. under vista i had a horror story with trying to get 7.3 version n going. various a re-install of vista fixed it, but if that uninstaller 2006 pro works that would be an easier way :D .

with the latest nvidia drivers 158 and the version n of 7.3 i now appear to have perfect HD DVD and Blu-ray on vista. HDTV also works now (except for the mysterious disappearance of NBC :confused: ) although there are occasional audio dropouts and studder at random times, but at least that is spaced a few minutes apart and not continuous like before, perhaps it is signal strenght issue, maybe media center pulls it in worse with hauppage than my old fusion software and card did. anyway, aside from the weird NBC thing I just about how HT fine in vista now, BUT my xfi extrememusic refuses to do 44.1kHz processing, it forces 48kHz or 96kHz transcoding still :mad: .

at least it doesn't look all hopless now like it did until the other day.

Turn off hardware acceleration. I get this also with two different cards (7300GS/GT), using Vista. All drivers later than >100.65 have the greenscreen bug with VC1 discs when accelerated for me.

with 8800 GTS, powerdvd 7.3n, 158.something nvidia drivers, HD DVD playback is flawless for me on Vista with HW acceleration enabled for VC1 titles.

I did have to re-install Vista semi-from scratch (I made a disk image with all the basic already done so each time i mess with HT stuff i don't waste as much time re-installing totally from scratch.)

I cannot play DVE HD DVD. The menus can be navigated to Play All. The Play all menu is the only one shown which I think is a problem.

Can anyone play this title?

- Rich

Same problem here...

Easy way to tell: if it switches to basic mode, it's overlay (cos that's incompatible with Aero).

I am more confused than ever. Yesterday I demuxed part of an EVO file to just a video file (forgot the extension). PowerDVD 7.3 played it and did NOT force Vista to switch to basic display mode as it always does when playing a hi-def disc or an EVO file (I checked and it was still Aero, it was also obvious because of the transparency effects). PDVD reported the exact same thing that it reports when it does switch to basic mode:

Surface Type: Hardware Video Acceleration (DxVA)
Video Accelerator: DirectX VA (In use)

So, is it overlay, or is it not?

So, is it overlay, or is it not?

If it's in aero mode, it's definitely not overlay. You can test with a flyover (windowskey + tab) - that's completely impossible with overlay.

Could be when you demuxxed it to another video file PDVD is using its own Directshow filters, which we know from graphedit can work in VMR9. Perhaps with EVO files it uses non-Directshow for greater security, or some other element in the protected path is not happy with VMR9.

nobody has mentioned this yet, but there is a newer update than the 2605n

it is linked to if you have a pre 7.3 version of powerdvd ultra and you go to the cyberlink update page where it talks about the revoked keys. look on the cyberlink main page and there is a link talking about updates.

in order to install, you need to have a version of powerdvd ultra installed and activated.

i don't know what version to call this, but check the version and modified date of the main exe after you install the update. it is much newer than the 2605n and fixes all problems i was having with my ati system and hdcp

sorry for the lack of capitalization but i just spilled coke in my keyboard so the shift keys do not work correctly

also, sorry for the lack of a link, but it won't let me post the link

if you do have 2605n already installed it won't let you get to this though....

nobody has mentioned this yet, but there is a newer update than the 2605n

it is linked to if you have a pre 7.3 version of powerdvd ultra and you go to the cyberlink update page where it talks about the revoked keys. look on the cyberlink main page and there is a link talking about updates.

in order to install, you need to have a version of powerdvd ultra installed and activated.

i don't know what version to call this, but check the version and modified date of the main exe after you install the update. it is much newer than the 2605n and fixes all problems i was having with my ati system and hdcp

sorry for the lack of capitalization but i just spilled coke in my keyboard so the shift keys do not work correctly

also, sorry for the lack of a link, but it won't let me post the link

http://download.cyberlink.com/ftpdload/patch/powerdvd/upgradetov2/DVD070301-04/PowerDVD_Ultra.exe

there is the link. do not bother downloading this unless you have a previous version installed/activated.

on a side note, why does powerdvd ultra not work on windows xp x64

does anybody know if it is due to xp x64 not supporting copp, ati's x64 drivers not supporting copp, or powerdvd ultra creating an artificial limitation

It is version 2723.

Anyone have it working in xp but when you go into vista I get nothing but black screen playback, ripped to my hard drive either format. Its the ONLY thing keeping me from using vista full time. But if I can't watch my movies no go. Non compliant vid card but that doesn't stop it from working in xp just fine. Besides that its ripped to hard drive. What gives, anyone got and ideas.

http://download.cyberlink.com/ftpdload/patch/powerdvd/upgradetov2/DVD070301-04/PowerDVD_Ultra.exe

there is the link. do not bother downloading this unless you have a previous version installed/activated.

on a side note, why does powerdvd ultra not work on windows xp x64

does anybody know if it is due to xp x64 not supporting copp, ati's x64 drivers not supporting copp, or powerdvd ultra creating an artificial limitation

Does this patch update the AACS keys? I don't want to do this 'til I need to.

Yes, that's all I'm using it for. Not sure how it would work with a bluray/HDDVD drive.

ballenjr

How did you install MyMovies 2.3 Are you using XP or Vista? So far I cant get it to work on MCE2005 XP SP-2.

Could be that I didn't Uninstall 2.20 properly.

Anyway thanks for the MyMovies Post & Info!

ballenjr

How did you install MyMovies 2.3 Are you using XP or Vista? So far I cant get it to work on MCE2005 XP SP-2.

Could be that I didn't Uninstall 2.20 properly.

Anyway thanks for the MyMovies Post & Info!


I installed it in vista 32 bit and xp mce 2005.

Both worked fine for me but apparently you are not the only having problems. If you look at the mymovies.name forum there are others who currently can't get things working correctly with the current beta version in MCE 2005.

The programmer, Brian, promises a new release candidate by the end of the week which will hopefully solve these problems.

BTW, the program currently only supports HD DVD playback through mediacenter, not Blu Ray. Blu Ray is supposed to be coming soon though.

Anyone have it working in xp but when you go into vista I get nothing but black screen playback, ripped to my hard drive either format. Its the ONLY thing keeping me from using vista full time. But if I can't watch my movies no go. Non compliant vid card but that doesn't stop it from working in xp just fine. Besides that its ripped to hard drive. What gives, anyone got and ideas.

Video drivers. Find one of the many Vista video card drivers that will work for you. It's a mess now, especially on the Nvidia side.

I am trying to get Hardware Acceleration for HD-DVD content working with PowerDVD 7.3 and an AGP 7600GT card.

Is there still no fix for PureVideo HD + AGP cards?

Does anyone have this working?

I have been in communication with cyberlink and ATI on this issue for some time (see earlier posts).
Hardware acceleration does not work for vc-1, hence the problems with HD-DVD and not with Blu-ray. It's a driver issue. ATI is working on it.
It's taking them quite a while, but they are working on it.
As far as I am aware the issue is independent of whether the graphics card is AGP or PCIE.

Ok I have a definitive answer for all those X1000 series graphics card owners out there about your VC-1 ( & so HD-DVD) hardware acceleration. I hassled AMD/ATI until I got bumped up the support ladder to an engineer! And he said..... drum roll please.....
Your issue was escalated to one of our engineers, and here's the response they gave me:

"There is currently no hardware available (from us) that can accelerate VC-1 files. This is because the bit rate is a lot lower in these types of compression and therefore can be done easily by the CPU itself. The AVIVO acceleration IS enabled for H.264 files and content as the CPU is then insufficient for accelerating the decoding and the GPU needs to get involved.

In short, this behaviour is "by design" and isn't actually a problem."

So ladies and gents your X1950 or X1600 or whatever you have from ATI will never ever ever ever accelerate VC-1 or HD-DVDs not matter how many times they update the software or the drivers, yes this sucks, I know I own one!

Very happy to have a clear answer finally, but gutted at what the answer is.

So ladies and gents your X1950 or X1600 or whatever you have from ATI will never ever ever ever accelerate VC-1 or HD-DVDs not matter how many times they update the software or the drivers.Huh? There are a considerable number of HD DVD titles that use H.264/AVC for the video codec. All Weinstein studio titles for instance. So you video card's GPU will be used for those. My understanding is that VC-1, by deliberate design, was intended to be easy to decode with standard processors. Now how much AMD or Nvidia work to offload stuff onto the video card's GPU (when it does not HAVE to be) is kinda a choice for how much engineering work they want to do or might depend on data flow bandwidth issues.

Huh? There are a considerable number of HD DVD titles that use H.264/AVC for the video codec. All Weinstein studio titles for instance. So you video card's GPU will be used for those. My understanding is that VC-1, by deliberate design, was intended to be easy to decode with standard processors. Now how much AMD or Nvidia work to offload stuff onto the video card's GPU (when it does not HAVE to be) is kinda a choice for how much engineering work they want to do or might depend on data flow bandwidth issues.

Yeah... well if ATI HAD bothered to off load it to the GPU I wouldn't have had to spend £200 odd upgrading my system! Ah well I guess HD HTPCs on the cheap are a bad Idea...

The UK HD-DVD range is not as extensive as the US yet and as it stands all HD-DVDs currently released are VC-1. I'm glad to here some out there are H.264! Could you name any good one I might wish to import, you know big budget box office stuff? Will WB and Universal follow suit do you think?

The UK HD-DVD range is not as extensive as the US yet and as it stands all HD-DVDs currently released are VC-1. I'm glad to here some out there are H.264!

Not all, there are a few. Of those I've bought: Equilibrium, The Departed and Babel.

nobody has mentioned this yet, but there is a newer update than the 2605n
I have been using PDVD6.5 with an ATI X300 and Catalyst 7.2, since PDVD7.2 refused to work on my system (complained that the graphics drivers were incompatible even though they were the latest at the time) and gave venetian blinds in the playback window.

Thought maybe this had been fixed with PDVD7.3, so I installed, activated and then installed the PDVD7.3 update linked in this thread.

All seemed to go well until I tried playing an HD-DVD from HDD: got the Error 00012 incompatible graphics driver error message again and PDVD closed down.

I also unticked graphics acceleration, as I don't need to use it, but still get the same issue.

Curiously, after installing the patch, PDVD is just identified as PowerDVD 7 and there is no build number, yet it has the HD-DVD and Bluray logos on the entry screen.

What is it with Cyberlink's rejection of any graphics card not on their recommended list? They say it's the graphics driver, but I bet it's actually the card. The crazy thing is that PDVD6.5 works just fine on the same setup.

Is there anything I can do to get PDVD7.3 to work on my setup, or am I doomed to PDVD6.5 forever?

Is there anything I can do to get PDVD7.3 to work on my setup, or am I doomed to PDVD6.5 forever?

Slysoft Anydvd HD?