View Full Version : HD-DVD crack on PC


MrGogo
12-29-06, 07:35 PM
I may be jumping the gun a bit here but this youtube video was posted on toms hardware!

Just think guys we may be getting closer to that videolan blended playback!?

or maybe not could be a fake! check the video you decide!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oZGYb92isE

Davinleeds
12-29-06, 08:09 PM
I copied a HDDVD to disk, but it's only playable withthe proper software like shown. Any one can do this.

none74
12-29-06, 08:20 PM
Can you then burn it onto other media, like DL DVDR ? Can the file be split in a way that it can be burned to another media and still played in the stand alone players ?

Davinleeds
12-29-06, 08:23 PM
Never tried. EVO files are specific.

NautikaL
12-30-06, 01:05 PM
The difference is that now you can burn them to other media.


The widely discusses advanced access content system (AACS) that is supposed to prevent unauthorized duplications of Blu-ray and HD DVD discs has been reportedly cracked, meaning that users may now not only backup their high definition movies, but also make illegal copies of them

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20061228225123.html

Willie
12-30-06, 01:22 PM
Before you all get too excited toodle on over to doom9.net and read the entire thread in which muslix64 posted initially.

Willie

Mastiff
12-31-06, 05:51 AM
Basically this is just using the decryption key to decrypt the files to disk instead of for realtime playback. The problem is that you need the key for each HD-DVD you want to decrypt. It's just a vague hint of concept for now, and the key is said to come from PowerDVD 6.5. I have followed the thread at Doom9, and I haven't yet seen anybody showing any proof that this is real. On the other hand it fits very well with what I have said all along: The brute force hacking won't be possible here, but the hack will happen, probably through fair use advocates working somewhere along the production line who will release the keys through some kind of a system.

What muslix64 has done is nothing more than what east european hackers did, and my fellow countryman DVD-Jon got unjust credit for (for the last time!!! All that little punk did was to program a rather simple GUI for the DeCSS program!!!), to exploit a weakness or slipup in a software player. But such weaknesses are pretty close to impossible to avoid if playback is allowed, as it is now, on anything computer that is not a fully closed system (so called trusted computing, not trusted for users but for those who wants to limit fair use). In a few months we should be able to watch HD-DVD on our hacked XBox 360 drives connected to our HTPC's with full HD playback on graphics cards that doesn't even have a HDMI connection.

And I refuse to call any kind of use fair use as long as I can't watch the movie on my chosen display device, in other words a CRT projector!

MrGogo
12-31-06, 01:00 PM
Well when I braught this up I wasn't saying that it was gonna work out of the box.

Just that the process of opening this up to use the way would like to use it.

Hopefully this will lead to the comfortable situation we're in with DVDs where you can pretty much do what you want with them! (Oh how the movie industry seems to be suffering because I want my movies stored on a central server)

raster
12-31-06, 02:45 PM
post is way off topic guys- wrong forum to

Art Sonneborn
12-31-06, 03:00 PM
I hope that this "fair use" doesn't result in us now not being able to use comonent out or get a sudden puckering of the title release pipe. Being my age and remembering no movies in ones home, then movies but them costing 100 USD a piece in late 70's dollars, I just don't get the complaints about paying 20 USD for a copy of a film that would put top shame the vast majority of commercial theaters. :(

Art

Phil Smith
12-31-06, 03:09 PM
...I just don't get the complaints about paying 20 USD for a copy of a film that would put top shame the vast majority of commercial theaters. :( That's because you're not into HTPCs and file servers (or in my case, a firewire tower drive case). It's not about money because doing what we rippers do can be very expensive. It's about how cool it is.

GlenF
01-01-07, 10:23 PM
I hope that this "fair use" doesn't result in us now not being able to use comonent out or get a sudden puckering of the title release pipe. Being my age and remembering no movies in ones home, then movies but them costing 100 USD a piece in late 70's dollars, I just don't get the complaints about paying 20 USD for a copy of a film that would put top shame the vast majority of commercial theaters. :(

Art

I have no complaints about paying 20 or 30 bucks for a HD-DVD, I think it is good value.

BUT

I do have a major complaint about buying a HD-DVD and not being able to watch it on my HTPC because of DRM crap.
If I pay for a movie I expect to be able to watch it on my chosen display at full resolution.
I don't care about not being able to back it up, but I do care about not being able to watch it.

I hate that the pirates get a BETTER viewing experience than me when I buy the movies, like I have to sit through the copyright notices and the unskippable parts of standard because I did the right thing and paid for it, whereas the pirates can just go straight to the movie.

The guy who did the hack only embarked on his mission because he couldn't playback the movie he paid for, the same thing happened with me, I learned how to rip DVDs after region protection and blocking of TV-output on my PC happened after I purchased SHREK and couldn't watch it.
I never would have learned how to rip a DVD if they hadn't blocked me from watching a DVD that I legally paid for.