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Syvere
12-29-06, 07:48 PM
So I bought one of these TVs a couple of days ago. I decided to calibrate the TV properly and went to the service menu. Now the first option there is Calibration so I clicked it and some new options appeared: AV Calibration, Comp Calibration, PC Calibration and HDMI Calibration. I use the TV mainly for gaming so pushed Comp Calibration. Now all these settings had "Success" written next to them and when I pushed Comp Calibration it changed to "Failure"?! Now I can't change it back no matter what I do. Any help would be appreciated.

Sorry made the earlier post in the wrong sub-forum...

Michael TLV
12-29-06, 08:48 PM
Greetings

What exactly did you think you were "calibrating" by activating those items?

If we changed the word from calibration to "self destruct" ... would you still press those?

When activated, the TV looks for a specific test signal being fed by an external generator. If the signal is not there ... the test routine assumes that what ever is there ... a cartoon ... a news program ... is that very pattern and adjusts accordingly.

You can't fix this yourself ... without that pattern. This disaster is your making and you should just tell samsung that you messed around and pay for the repair job needed on the TV.

Regards

Syvere
12-29-06, 09:26 PM
Well the picture is still good. It seems that it only calibrates colors and doesn't even affect the Game Mode (which I always use anyway). I also copied the sharpening and RGB as well as ADC settings from RGB (Scart) connection. The picture is now better than it was before (at least it seems that way) and doesn't have that annoying edge enhancement. So since you're a professional calibrator can you tell me
1. Should I be worried even if the picture is now better or at least as good as it was before
2. What settings does the automatic calibration affect? Since the signal and that calibration feature obviously affect settings that can be set manually anyway
3. Do you have any other tips for calibrating the sharpening and colours?
4. The calibration feature seems to be input specific so it only affect component input in this case, correct?
5. Is it just me or does the calibration feature only affect Dynamic mode?

Thanks for your answers in advance. I have calibrated monitors before so I guessed the calibration feature would have just shown me the color settings. Well, now I know better. :)

EDIT: One more question: If I some day want to get that comp calibration changed to Successful status, can the repair be done on the spot or do you usually have to send the TV for repairs. I mean they would just have to hook up the signal to component and use automatic calibration setting again.

Syvere
12-29-06, 09:51 PM
Sorry for the double post but I'm writing this with Wii so I can't edit my previous post without rewriting it. I just took a look at some color calibration cards through Wii and all colours seem to be perfect.

Michael TLV
12-30-06, 09:38 AM
Greetings

1. If you got it back close for your eyes ... then consider yourself lucky. Some people have not been able to get it back to remotely close.

2. Details of the Calibration function are sketchy ... Samsung does not talk about it much.

3. Calibrate with a test disc ... and with professional instrumentation where possible.

4. It is input signal type specific.

5. Again details are sketchy ... and I don't have any sets around that I want to ruin for such an experiment.

Regards

Syvere
12-30-06, 12:53 PM
Hey,
Thanks a lot for your answers! However, if possible, I'd still like to inquire about the repair (recalibration): Do the manufacturers usually send someone over to calibrate it or do one have have to send the TV over to them for calibration?

Michael TLV
12-30-06, 01:14 PM
Greetings

With the proper test pattern from their signal generator ... it may take them all of 30 sec to undo the "damage" done. Plug it in ... press recalibrate ... and all done.

Regards

ChrisWiggles
12-30-06, 01:30 PM
Hey,
Thanks a lot for your answers! However, if possible, I'd still like to inquire about the repair (recalibration): Do the manufacturers usually send someone over to calibrate it or do one have have to send the TV over to them for calibration?

You would have to send it and pay likely since you broke it.

Syvere
12-30-06, 02:07 PM
Well, after tweaking the settings further and referring to NTSC color, sharpness, brightness and contrast charts I can say that now everything is perfect (at least according to those charts). I want to thank you all for your help.

Syvere
01-01-07, 02:07 PM
I just wanted to let you know but the Success status CAN be reattained with proper pattern without sending the TV to repairs. I used Avia's Checkerboard pattern with PS2 and now my TV has once again all inputs successfully calibrated. Samsung's Service was kind enough to inform me what kind of pattern they were using. Also in Samsung models the calibration only affects contrast and brightness levels so that also explains why Samsung users always seem to get good picture even though the calibration is a failure.

Michael TLV
01-01-07, 06:56 PM
Great to hear ... thanks ...

good they were helpful ...

Regards

Chief Ediri
01-01-07, 07:56 PM
Cant you restore defaults?

Syvere
01-02-07, 12:23 AM
Cant you restore defaults?

No, you can't. You can only restore default settings for normal menu items but for service menu options there is no reset function which is why you should always document the changes you make there. (and not play with the calibration function :p)

Great to hear ... thanks ...

good they were helpful ...

Regards

I really appreciate your help too. Usually people just ignore others' problems. Happy New Year!

Pexer
01-08-07, 04:14 AM
I just wanted to let you know but the Success status CAN be reattained with proper pattern without sending the TV to repairs. I used Avia's Checkerboard pattern with PS2 and now my TV has once again all inputs successfully calibrated. Samsung's Service was kind enough to inform me what kind of pattern they were using. Also in Samsung models the calibration only affects contrast and brightness levels so that also explains why Samsung users always seem to get good picture even though the calibration is a failure.

Hi Syvere!
I've also managed to make this misstake... :(

What exactly did You use from the Avia? As I understand theres a couple of different checkerboards there...?

I've also noticed that it is possible to get the correct values from other inputs...
Start the TV and select channel 1 or HDMI, shutdown, restart the TV i Service meny, note the settings, shutdown, restart the TV and select AV1 or 2, shutdown, restart using Service Meny and change to correct settings noted above...
This worked for me....

But I've learned the hard way not to mess with the service meny, and absolutly that it is essential to note all settings prior to messing up the set...

pipootje
01-11-07, 01:04 PM
Hi Syvere and Pexer.

I guess have joined the Calibration Failure club :-(.
As you I have also accidentally pressed the wrong button in the calibration menu.

Syvere, could you help me get Success back on screen, please?

Michael TLV
01-11-07, 03:50 PM
Greetings

As the posts say ... try a checkerboard pattern (8 white and 8 black boxes) and activate the process again.

Regards

Pexer
01-12-07, 01:55 AM
Greetings

As the posts say ... try a checkerboard pattern (8 white and 8 black boxes) and activate the process again.

Regards

Thanks Michael, I'll give it a try when I get hold of a PAL calibration disc and will let You know if it helps!

A couple of questions though:
- Just to make sure: Using a NTSC material (like Avia) would not help me, right? (I've got a European set...)
- I read somewhere that Samsung takes calibration further using color in checkerboard. Should I not use a color checkerboard then? Or is the calibration only for contrast and brightness?

Michael TLV
01-12-07, 08:02 AM
Greetings

You will have to ask samsung those questions.

Regards

pipootje
01-12-07, 01:46 PM
Hi Michael, Syvere and Pexer

sorry to bother you guys again but I'm still in the dark here.
According to Michael I should use an 8x8 checkerboard pattern to get 'Success' again.
I was just wondering. Can I create one of my one with squares of 240x135 for a 1920x1080 screen?
And what is the procedure I should follow: go back to the Service Menu (OMG) and go to Calibration again?

Please advice (and thanks in advance).

Regards.

pipootje
01-12-07, 02:10 PM
OH YEAH!!! I'm a 'Success again!!!

My steps to success:
1. Created an 8x8 checkerboard of squares with size 240x135 because my TV is on 1920x1080. My checkerboard starts with a white square at the top left side (don't really know if this matters though).
2. Used my XBOX 360 to display the pattern on TV
3. Started the Service Menu on my TV and went to the Calibration menu.
4. Pressed the 'left cursor' button on my TV remote and waited.

- In the mean time the black squares turned green on my TV but I just ignored it.
- Then the brightness suddenly increased... but I still waited (to be honest I don't really know how long I've waited but it at least 20 seconds I think).
- But then... the TV shows the original picture (the green squares returned to black) and more importantly... the menu shows "Success"!!!

So thanks a lot for all your help guys!
Best regards.

mkinn
01-15-07, 01:31 AM
Most TV's use a 100IRE (100% white) window pattern to calibrate the A/D converters. I've used this on a Samsung HPS 5053 to fix a problem with low IRE resolution errors on the component input. Use a 480i source. Wait 8 minutes or more untill it finishes with success. If it isn't correct, try again up to 6 times untill it finishes correctly. Wait 10 seconds after power-off to turn it back on. Check all settings in user mode, not service mode.

PS There is NO WAY to adjust tint on component OR HDMI inputs, even in service mode. If I find a workaround, Ill post it here.

Pexer
01-15-07, 02:37 PM
Most TV's use a 100IRE (100% white) window pattern to calibrate the A/D converters. I've used this on a Samsung HPS 5053 to fix a problem with low IRE resolution errors on the component input. Use a 480i source. Wait 8 minutes or more untill it finishes with success. If it isn't correct, try again up to 6 times untill it finishes correctly. Wait 10 seconds after power-off to turn it back on. Check all settings in user mode, not service mode.

PS There is NO WAY to adjust tint on component OR HDMI inputs, even in service mode. If I find a workaround, Ill post it here.


Thanks for Your response!
What does Your set look like during the calibration? :confused:
My turns from the 100IRE pattern to a bright white fullscreen. Just like turning up contrast and brightness to a maximum. Then the process restarts... Sometimes the white portion turns red, sometimes green... Seems neverending! Is this normal??? Im using 100IRE pattern from Avia (one white square on black bottom).

daggerNC
01-18-07, 02:11 PM
Hmmm, this is a good thread. I just bought a new Samsung LN-S4696D LCD TV. I'm waiting to put 50+ hours on it before I do a Colofacts 5.0 calibration on it. This is my first Samsung TV so got the code for the Service Menu and went in a couple on nights ago to explore the options in there. I went into the Calibration menu to see what the options were in there and I guess I hit the Left Arrow key rather than the Menu key just above it as it started going into a calibration process. No keys worked to stop it or get out so I pulled the power cord. Plugged it back in and every thing looks just as it did before - guess I'm lucky here? (Or is there a "Save" key that needs to be entered which I didn't do, or) Still, I may try looking into that submenu again to see if any inputs show failure. If so I'll fire up the Avia disc Checkerboard pattern and run it.

Guess it could have turned out worse!

scarsi42
01-29-07, 05:58 PM
Hello, I'm success again!!
My steps:
- I prepared a 1600x1200 black and white checkerboard jpeg image with windows paint.
- I displayed it full screen with the Wii photo channel.
- I start calibration.

That's all.

tandk_1
02-18-07, 07:44 PM
I came to this thread looking for someone to help me out by telling me how to access the service menu on the Samsung 5053. Although after reading this post it looks quite a scary place to go! But I am willing to risk it because I have a bigger problem!

It's not actually calibration I am initially looking for really. It's because I emigrated from the UK to the US and brought my PAL PS2 (bought in the UK) and all my PAL games (also bought in the UK). I want to use the PAL PS2 with my new (US and obviously NTSC) Samsung 5053 and I hoping the service menu may give me the key!?! I am hoping there is a way to get it to accept a PAL signal.

I may of course be hoping and it will not do that at all so anyone out there who can think of an alternative - like running the PAL picture through a cable box or DVD player or Amp to convert to NTSC or any fancy little gadgets or cables anyone can think of - would be much appreciated.

I know of the PAL to NTSC converter boxes but they cost $150-$200, which my wife is NOT going to let me buy just to run my PS2!!!

Please help!

tandk_1
02-19-07, 06:33 PM
Any takers?

zzzpt
06-03-07, 07:14 PM
What a nice thread :D
I'm from portugal, and i've got a Samsung 40r74

And for my bad, i've done the PC calibration mistake :(
Since this lcd is only 720p, what resolution should i put on the screen 1360x768

And whats the dimension of the chess?

Created an 8x8 checkerboard of squares with size 240x135 because my TV is on 1920x1080. My checkerboard starts with a white square at the top left side (don't really know if this matters though).

kowalin
06-03-07, 11:47 PM
As the posts say ... try a checkerboard pattern (8 white and 8 black boxes) and activate the process again.


if i have gone into the calibration menu while the input source was on DTV, how would i bring up a test pattern to change the status to success again? because from what i understand, the calibration menu is in relation to the input being present at the time. i am showing success in all other inputs but the DTV shows failed. Thanks in advance

kowalin
06-03-07, 11:49 PM
i forgot to say what model i have. it is an australian Sammy model la46m81bdx 1920x1080 integrated DTV

djdickerson
06-07-07, 08:52 PM
I am a Samsung DLP owner. On which Samsung models can you use this process for calibration?

kowalin
06-08-07, 12:50 PM
I am a Samsung DLP owner. On which Samsung models can you use this process for calibration?
as far as i know, it is only the lcd screens. you can try your luck with your dlp but if you get into the service menu, dont stuff with the calibration settings unless you really know what you are doing. my calibration settings have been tampered with and i have no idea how to get it successfully calibrated again

zzzpt
07-03-07, 06:23 PM
Well just want to say that with this pattern:
http://calibrate.tv/patterns/ansicontrast1.jpg
http://calibrate.tv/patterns/ansicontrast1.jpg

The calibration was a SUCCESS

Only putting the image on the backgroud worked ;)

Grendell
07-04-07, 12:25 AM
Another great example of why manufacturers need to put ISF related functions in a separate menu. Service menu should only ever need to be accessed at the factory or by a company trained tech who carries the proper equipment.

zzzpt
07-06-07, 11:14 AM
the big problem is that in the new products there are new options in the regular menu, that my lcd has on the service menu.

Fix the greens

Service menu -> white balance
RGB CALIBRATION:
R-Offset 22H
G-Offset 22H
B-Offset 22H

R-Gain 8DH
G-Gain 8DH
B-Gain 8DH

zzzpt
07-06-07, 11:15 AM
I dont understantd why the samsung doesnt put these options on the regular menu

If you see the new M86, you'll see those options on the OSD:
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/image/hdtv/Samsung-LE40M86BD/menu-white-balance.jpg
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40M86BD/Operation.php

mike123456789
07-23-07, 02:15 AM
hi, just got the new 46M8 and checked my production date by entering service menu.
looked at calibration and dtv calibration came up as failure. also noticed when i look through menu (not d.menu) alot of stuff are shaded out including the complete setting for channel settings?

is this normal or is there something wrong with my dtv?

thanks

mike123456789
07-23-07, 03:43 AM
i just realised that in australia we dont get dtv, only certain tv programs are in HD. however before i realised that i tryed the _calibrate.tv/patterns/ansicontrast1.jpg on my screen.
it still comes up as failure.
just wandering if by doing that could i have effected the picture quality or would it of had no impact as it came back failure

thanks for any help

mike123456789
07-23-07, 09:40 PM
Well just want to say that with this pattern:
_calibrate.tv/patterns/ansicontrast1.jpg

The calibration was a SUCCESS

Only putting the image on the backgroud worked ;)

my dtv calibration is coming up as failure
how do i get the image on in dtv mode as when i load it from my laptop is goes up in pc mode and doesnt fix anything to do with dtv

thanks

zzzpt
08-07-07, 06:00 AM
The sucess was only via VGA (PC Calibration)

I think that if you dont have dtv, you dont have to worry about that :P

Pexer
08-07-07, 07:32 AM
Another great example of why manufacturers need to put ISF related functions in a separate menu. Service menu should only ever need to be accessed at the factory or by a company trained tech who carries the proper equipment.
I believe your statement about "Company trained techs" is a bit overrated.
It shows clearly when you compare two identical sets next to each other with the same "stupid-consumer-menu"-settings.
Producing consumer electronics as cheap and in as large quantity as possible seems to have an effect on the time you'll spend on calibrating and quality assuring your product, right? ;)
Besides that a service menu shouldn't be accessed through button remote button combinations and accidantially modified through pressing a single button. :mad:

ChrisDixon
08-07-07, 08:43 AM
I think I may have done something too, but I'm not sure what (if anything) it changed in the service menu. Here's what happened:

I decided to just "look around" in the service menu of my Samsung LN-T4665F. I thought the Calibration choice would just bring up another menu. I'm not sure what was on the screen at the time, but I'm guessing it was just blank (with no source) or a DirecTV channel. Anyway, if memory serves me right, the screen just immediately came back with a listing of several different inputs followed by "Success". When I went into the regular menus, I noticed that it changed a bunch of settings, so I switched them back to what I previously used. My questions are:

1. Did it also change service menu items?
2. Is there anything else that I still need to do to restore it?
3. What exactly does "success" mean?

Pexer
08-07-07, 01:20 PM
I think I may have done something too, but I'm not sure what (if anything) it changed in the service menu. Here's what happened:

I decided to just "look around" in the service menu of my Samsung LN-T4665F. I thought the Calibration choice would just bring up another menu. I'm not sure what was on the screen at the time, but I'm guessing it was just blank (with no source) or a DirecTV channel. Anyway, if memory serves me right, the screen just immediately came back with a listing of several different inputs followed by "Success". When I went into the regular menus, I noticed that it changed a bunch of settings, so I switched them back to what I previously used. My questions are:

1. Did it also change service menu items?
2. Is there anything else that I still need to do to restore it?
3. What exactly does "success" mean?

1. If You entered the calibration sub-menu and from there pressed another item it's probably the case that You've changed something. I've made this mistake as well. In my case I've received a "failure" tag...
2. Recalibrate it somehow, please let me know if You know how! :p
3. The opposite of failure??? :eek:

AngryPug
08-07-07, 09:32 PM
I wonder if bad calibration is the cause of my green tint?

ChrisDixon
08-09-07, 12:55 PM
1. If You entered the calibration sub-menu and from there pressed another item it's probably the case that You've changed something. I've made this mistake as well. In my case I've received a "failure" tag...
2. Recalibrate it somehow, please let me know if You know how! :p
3. The opposite of failure??? :eek:

Ok, I'm pretty sure I didn't select anything after seeing the sub-menu. I went back in today and did the same thing. Each of the inputs had Success already next to them. I didn't click on anything else though, so I'm guessing it didn't run through the calibration stuff either time. I did notice that as soon as I went into the service menu, it wacked my settings.

One more question: in the white balance menu, are they supposed to all be different by default? Anybody know what the default values are?

ChrisDixon
08-09-07, 01:44 PM
I'll answer my own question (after doing some more digging): The White Balance menu is only the settings for Cool1. The others can be adjusted in the W/B Movie menu.

tower101
08-09-07, 02:07 PM
I'll answer my own question (after doing some more digging): The White Balance menu is only the settings for Cool1. The others can be adjusted in the W/B Movie menu.

Try this thread


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=790106

I am to lazy to right it all over again. :D

aoottis@
10-01-07, 08:17 PM
Well just want to say that with this pattern:
http://calibrate.tv/patterns/ansicontrast1.jpg
http://calibrate.tv/patterns/ansicontrast1.jpg

The calibration was a SUCCESS

Only putting the image on the backgroud worked ;)


thanks ALoTH it worked for me 2 . it fixed my HDMI failure , and now it is success. did it with the ps3 ,couldent get it to work with the x360.

any clue how to fix the AV FAILURE ?

MrGAS
10-02-07, 10:55 AM
thank goodness one of the first threads/posts i read said,(do not touch any options in service menu warranty will be voided).This was great advice for a non tech guy like myself.

some of you sound qualified,thank goodness i know my limits.:D

even if i had messed up my Cal settings i would have been afraid to try fixing it.Samsung would have had to put me in there doghouse...:eek:

notguiltystyle
10-05-07, 03:04 AM
OK Iv become another stitistic (joining the failure club). But I just want to thank everyone for contributing to this great thread. It helped me in getting "success" again. Cheers guys

charli007
11-05-07, 01:42 AM
calibration hdmi failure please help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ShangChi
12-22-07, 11:28 PM
calibration hdmi failure please help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I didn't have a calibraton failure per se, but after upgrading firmware to 1037, I got the "green push" or tint. I though I fixed it in the service menu but it never really quite got fixe. I have a 4065f 1032/1008.

I tried many rememdies but it was a combination that put me back to picture perfection.

Switch inputs to cable. Power off and mute 182 on, go into service menu and write down white balance, and SVP-LX Offset, Gain, and Clock Settings.

Load the calibration patter in post #47. Switch input back to HDMI. Power off and mute 182 on and go to service menu and run HDMI calibration. If you're lucky, that's it, you'll have the factory quality picture back.

If like me, you picture is more whacked than before, that's OK. Some of your numbers are probably way off, like in the 6000s. Settings you can't or didn't touch have been calibrated, now go into White Balance and SVP-LX and enter the settings you noted from the cable input. For numbers in the thousands go up and it will jump to 0, if you go down it'll take forever. All should be like new again after that.

For my 1032/1008 board the proper settings are:

White Balance
Bright - 128
Contrast 128
All Offset and Gain settings 512

SVP-LX
Offsets R,G,& B = 62
Gains, R,G,&B =294
Clocks A=16, B=133,C=8

Thanks to everyone in this forum. It took a while and a combination of several solutions for me to get mine truly fixed but I wouldn't have been able to do it without AVS Forum. Thanks to zzzpt for the chart, though I'm not sure this is the one Samsung uses it did help me complete the calibration adn all I needed then was to adjust the above settings.

Even with the proper settigns above, without successfully completing a calibration with the chart, the picture was just never quite right.

-iD
01-15-08, 08:24 AM
the first posts mentioned an 8x8 grid in full screen resolution, but the image in post 32 is 4x4 and low res. will this still work to recalibrate a 46" 1080 LCD through HDMI?

My menu shows success, not failure, but apparently success is a relative word. All other inputs are still wonderful, but hdmi input now looks like a 20 year old failing tube on a cheap tv.

s1ncere
01-28-08, 12:53 PM
Hello all, I have made this awful mistake as well but not in HDMI mode but AV1 and also in PC mode. I was able to recalibrate with success in PC mode by using a checkered box 8x8 jpeg at a resolution of 1360x768 in full screen but the same image won't work with AV1. Does anyone know what resolution it would have to be to work because I think that might be my problem.

andydumi
01-28-08, 01:08 PM
Not all inputs get calibrated the same way. DIgital ones use some patterns, and analogs use others. PC is digital, like the HDMI, but AV is analog, so I think it needs the color bars, rather than the checkerboard.

s1ncere
01-28-08, 01:21 PM
Do you have a link to an example of these color bars? None of the electronics shops here on my island have any calibration DVDs but I did manage to download a DVD image file that has test patterns on it that I could possibly try when I get home.

s1ncere
01-28-08, 08:27 PM
well the test patterns I downloaded didn't work, does anybody else know what pattern I might need or if they have the same set as me could they upload the factory settings for me please. I have a LNT2642H and it is a week old :-( I brought the set in myself and I don't have any service centers here on my small island. The checkerboard sometimes gets the brightness and contrast kinda fixed when doing the calibation even though it still shows up as failure, but I would like back to how it was originally.

chronoxg3
03-30-08, 03:07 AM
I just want to thank everyone in this thread. Yesterday I nearly bricked my Samsung 4665F when I accidentally hit COMP CALIBRATION, which was then stuck in FAILURE. Thanks especially goes to the people who mentioned the checkerboard image, and the guy who had the idea of using the Wii photos channel.

I was able to successfully calibrate my tv using the attached image. Hope this helps someone down the line!

Edit: ok, the board shrinks my attachment down to 1024x768. Just make an identical image to that at 1920x1080 and it should work.

BXJUCR
03-30-08, 07:02 AM
Well after reading this I checked my own service menu. I had had a look around a few nights ago and found also HDMI Failure. Must have hit left or right aye (not). Well tryed the checkerboard through ps3 and SUCCESS. any one know which pattern the other setting need. I have a few people I know who would have played and broken their settings as well. Thanks for the info Would have never Known some thing was wrong untill I tryed to calibrate (which wont be for a while) wife not to keen on letting me spend $.:rolleyes:

dlancep
05-27-08, 10:46 PM
I have a issue too. I went into the calibration menu on my LCD and all my inputs showed success. I did not change or save anything, just powered off the TV. Afterwards, I powered up the TV and watched a few videos for a couple of hours - looked normal. The next day, my wife turns on the TV and it is very dark on all inputs. I checked the service menu again and all inputs still show success. Turning the brightness and contrast all the way to 100 helps, but it's nowhere near as bright as it was before.

Did entering the service menu cause this and why the delay until the next day for the change?

BXJUCR
05-28-08, 04:08 PM
have you turned on power saving this dims your back light whitch make your screen darker.

dlancep
05-29-08, 10:24 PM
Well, it seems that I did run the HDMI calibration after all while in the service menu. I made a 1920x1080 black and white checkerboard pattern as described in this thread, played the image on my DVD player, and re-ran the HDMI calibration. My LCD TV returned to it's original brightness and contrast levels.

A few things to point out here in my case:

1. My HDMI service menu calibration showed "success" at all times, I never saw failure even when the picture was dim.

2. My LCD TV appeared to have "normal" brightness and contrast on lower SD resolutions but was extremely dim on anything considered HDTV. This was for HDMI and for over the air HDTV on coax.

3. When running the HDMI calibration this also fixed the over the air HDTV brightness and contrast problem on rabbit ears and coax.

4. The HDMI calibration took nearly 30 seconds to complete the first time I ran it. Subsequent calibrations took less than 5 seconds.

You need to know a little bit on how to navigate the service menu. On my LNT-4669, the service menu operates as follows:

Enter Service Menu: With power off, press Mute-1-8-2-Power Button.
Up/Down Arrows - navigates the menu options.
Enter - selects a menu option.
Left/Right Arrows - adjusts the option value.
Menu - jumps up back level in the menus on each press until you reach the main menu.
Save - Mute-Mute-Power (not sure on this, I haven't tried to save yet).

jonahmt21
06-06-08, 02:25 PM
for anyone who havent figured it yet... this is the perfect solution! a digital camera is handy so you can take snapshots of the settings from cable or pc source.

if you have an input on both cable and hdmi... you can just press the source button and the tv will toggle between the sources while in the service menu.

cheers! and thanks a lot for all your help! i'll also try to post snapshots later for reference.

I didn't have a calibraton failure per se, but after upgrading firmware to 1037, I got the "green push" or tint. I though I fixed it in the service menu but it never really quite got fixe. I have a 4065f 1032/1008.

I tried many rememdies but it was a combination that put me back to picture perfection.

Switch inputs to cable. Power off and mute 182 on, go into service menu and write down white balance, and SVP-LX Offset, Gain, and Clock Settings.

Load the calibration patter in post #47. Switch input back to HDMI. Power off and mute 182 on and go to service menu and run HDMI calibration. If you're lucky, that's it, you'll have the factory quality picture back.

If like me, you picture is more whacked than before, that's OK. Some of your numbers are probably way off, like in the 6000s. Settings you can't or didn't touch have been calibrated, now go into White Balance and SVP-LX and enter the settings you noted from the cable input. For numbers in the thousands go up and it will jump to 0, if you go down it'll take forever. All should be like new again after that.

For my 1032/1008 board the proper settings are:

White Balance
Bright - 128
Contrast 128
All Offset and Gain settings 512

SVP-LX
Offsets R,G,& B = 62
Gains, R,G,&B =294
Clocks A=16, B=133,C=8

Thanks to everyone in this forum. It took a while and a combination of several solutions for me to get mine truly fixed but I wouldn't have been able to do it without AVS Forum. Thanks to zzzpt for the chart, though I'm not sure this is the one Samsung uses it did help me complete the calibration adn all I needed then was to adjust the above settings.

Even with the proper settigns above, without successfully completing a calibration with the chart, the picture was just never quite right.

bluewaves
06-06-08, 07:44 PM
This is just another reason someone with no clue of what they are doing shouldn't be in the service menus of tv's, unless you know whats going on don't play with them period.

samboukou
06-09-08, 11:33 PM
I had a problem of dead pixel with my TV LNT4061fx. I got my panel changed, but since I didn't got the same high quality of the picture than before, the tech came back and went into the service menu calibration and you konw what? He messed up! The picture turned red and he didnt know how to fix it. I now have much worse quality of the picture. When I point this out, He said that the probleme is the main bord and that I have to change it too. I don't know if he is right. since my first replacement with the panel didn't went as good as excpected, I am afraid to change the main board too. Any Ideas? Please help me what should I do?

bfocussvt
06-10-08, 12:47 PM
Was wondering, if you jacked up your calibration settings but corrected it with AVIA or copying settings, etc... was the colors the only thing affected or is sharpness, Dnie, contrast, etc... affected as well?

andydumi
06-10-08, 01:09 PM
If you correct it with copying settings, then all should be ok.
If you correct it with running calibration on the correct image, then all should be ok.

Its easy to see if you still have an HDMI calibration issue by changing contrast, and it will make dramatic changes every 10 clicks, rather than 1 smooth change over the 100 clicks.

samboukou
06-11-08, 05:27 PM
It seems to me that the main problem is the color. But since it's all red and dark I can't really tell...

Bushido90
06-21-08, 07:00 PM
I need to calibrate my Cable TV with a checkerboard. Can't seem to find a way. Is there a way to get rid of this blue-green tint film over my TV?

path87
07-13-08, 12:07 AM
Just screwed with the service menu and accidentally pushed the left arrow over the HDMI calibration option and my screen turned a blue tint with a "failure" message. Came here and tried the pattern that was posted earlier in the thread (displayed it through my PS3 with HDMI) and my TV appears to be back to normal with a successful HDMI calibration. I'm assuming all it does is identify true white and true black (via the checkerboard pattern) and set itself based on that. Try the pattern yourself before paying Samsung an arm and a leg to fix your screw up.

ddv2005
08-23-08, 08:30 PM
I have problem with HDMI calibration on LN52A550. I try 8x8 and 4x4 but it don't work. Please help me because now ALL HDMI inputs is too dark and i don't know how restore it.

Dmitriy

Peekstra
08-26-08, 01:20 PM
Thanks for the calibration pattern!

When I entered the service menu's I was looking for calibration adjustments and I never suspected that calibration would not contain a submenu with settings...

:o

matrix99989
10-08-08, 03:08 PM
Anyone here have a LN*A450 series and are willing to write down their factory defaults?

I screwed mine on auto calibrate for video (which I think is the RF input - at least that is what was displayed while it tried to calibrate).

I have the AVIA II disc, but want to try a manual fix first.

Willing to deal to get this - make me an offer.

Thanks!
M99

mmichii
10-16-08, 04:23 PM
accidentally hit calibrate when connected to directv receiver in 720p mode on hdmi2/dvi input and now the hdmi menu item says failed. But when i turned the tv off and then on again all the colors were normal again except that i had to put all the settings back the way i liked them

tried using an 8x8 chess pattern in 720p@60hz from my ps3 and it still failed. also colors were messed up until i turned off and on again. I did this as per instructions in the a650 service manual. I only assumed that these sets were similar enough that the procedure would be the same.

this is what i'm thinking and correct me if i'm wrong. Since every time i hit the calibrate option it failed, only the fail flag was set and the settings themselves were not changed from factory. Only in the case of success would new settings be written. this only seems logical and its based on the fact that the colors would be messed up after a failed attempt but would "reset" after i turned the tv off and on again

mmichii
10-16-08, 04:33 PM
i used a bmp of a chessboard pattern viewing it with the photo viewer and forced 720p in the display settings on the ps3

does the number of squares and their positions matter?

also when its calibrating a little square appears in the center area of the screen which is why i ask if the exact pattern matters

tried this with all hdmi inputs and all failed

the other three calibration items showed success and i never touched them in the first place

i would like to avoid a service call if possible. if only the flag is set and not the actual settings i would be happy but i want to know for sure

Entity82
10-22-08, 11:08 AM
Hey everyone. I have also accidently hit the HDMI calibration on my tv, LN46A750. I did not however get a failure message on my set. The only thing plugged in at the time was my Cable STB but it was not turned on. It was displaying the channel I last watched but the box was not on. The picture seems to be fine but I am a bit worried that I did screw something up. Should I be looking for contrast issues and color issues? Will updating to the newest firmware fix this?

If anyone can please help it will be greatly appreciated, thank you.

hoodlum77
10-29-08, 02:38 PM
I have the Samsung 42Q7h and I am not completely satisfied with my picture quality to dark etc.

I was just thinking the following.

The factory calibration is done with a pattern from a source wich is different from the one I use. Would performing a recalibration with my own device give me a better result.

I use for example a xbox360 on my comp input, the 360 wont let me change any settings concerning brightness, contrast etc. I believe its output is to hot. So if i run the pattern from my 360 the tv would calibrate based ont that hot output and adjust it.

Same for my HDMI wich is feeded by my Tvix 6500.

Both inputs run trough my Marantz sr4001 to the tv.

Is this true or am i completely of here?

Some input please.

BTW the pattern they advice in the service manual is a different pattern from the one shown here.

Link :http://www.scribd.com/doc/2928513/Samsung-PL42P7HPX-TV-Plasma-Display

dewar1234
11-14-08, 09:29 AM
Anyone here have a LN*A450 series and are willing to write down their factory defaults?

I screwed mine on auto calibrate for video (which I think is the RF input - at least that is what was displayed while it tried to calibrate).

I have the AVIA II disc, but want to try a manual fix first.

Willing to deal to get this - make me an offer.

Thanks!
M99

look at the attachments on the link, it might get you close.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10184952#post10184952

vlin
12-05-08, 09:14 PM
Hi,

I have a Samsung 4061 and stuck with AV calibration failure. I tried checkerboard pattern using ANT1 input but it did not work. Does anyone know how to solve the problem?

I notice some people use Wii or PS2. Does that mean I need to use AV1 or AV2 for calibration?

thanks,

Victor

WhatHappend
12-14-08, 05:09 PM
Hi,

I have a Samsung 4061 and stuck with AV calibration failure. I tried checkerboard pattern using ANT1 input but it did not work. Does anyone know how to solve the problem?

I notice some people use Wii or PS2. Does that mean I need to use AV1 or AV2 for calibration?

thanks,

Victor

For the analog inputs you need to use NTSC color bar pattern. I just did this on a 450 series and it passes the calibration in seconds. I actually used the one on the AVIA disc with the black square on the lower left.

I would guess this pattern would also work: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/SMPTE_Color_Bars.svg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/SMPTE_Color_Bars.svg/180px-SMPTE_Color_Bars.svg.png

mr_Z_12
01-09-09, 02:36 AM
okay, i did the hdmi calibration on accident, and it made everything that was high definition have a green tint on it.
so i ran the checkerboard test pattern, it fixed the green tint on the dynamic setting, but when i put it in movie or standard, it just makes the picture even greener. when i change the contrast in the regular menu, it just goes through different colors. anyone know how to fix the contrast issues in different modes?

soundwatts
01-20-09, 01:41 AM
I went into the service menu saw a log failure option and pressed it seems there was nothing under it and all the inputs said success next to them (in log submenu).

Then I looked at the fonts.

After that I powered down the tv and when powered up some things changed.


First of all all the user settings were gone. So I reset them.

I am seeing a lot of motion blurr that I did not see before and the picture changed as well, seems grainier.

I didnt think I changed anything doing as described above. Does just going into the menu do this?

How can I fix it. would hiring a isf tv calibrator work. Or would he not know how to reset this?

kurkosdr
01-23-09, 01:07 PM
I also accidentally pressed the "AV Calibration" option in the "Calibration" submenu, and now I 've got a "Failure" too. I hadn't any source connected and on, so the screen was all black when I did this.

Did this affected the picture quality I am getting?

If it is not, then I have no problem if it just says the word "Failure" instead of the word "Success" in the obscure service menu.

If it affected something, tell me what this was please :confused:

Zero HD
01-25-09, 04:02 PM
I did this too (stupid), I was unable to use the patterns posted here, but a pattern on the AVCHD disc available here on my PS3 fixed my HDMI, guess it had to be 1920x1080, black checker box first in top left hand corner. I'm assuming I can fix the comp as well, and maybe AV using the PS3 analog cables, but what about TV? i dont have any devices with an RF connector and there is no option for DTV (ATSC), any ideas?

BTW, there are patterns built into the TV, including a checkerboard pattern and the color bars for the NTSC low def sources under FRCM called patt-before and patt-after, click right on the remote dpad to scroll through 6 different patterns on each, 12 in total. But I can't use these AND go into the ADC menu to calibrate using these images to get a "success".

So far I have gotten HDMI "success" and it looks great, but would like help getting TV (cable?) to display success, it is a bit off I think... And if I could find a way to display the patterns, would I use the NTSC color bars? I just have low def cable TV, and does HDMI "success" really calibrate the ATSC DTV tuner too? There isn't an option in the ADC calibration menu for ATSC.

Thanks in advance.

Lee Bailey
01-25-09, 09:19 PM
I did this too (stupid), I was unable to use the patterns posted here, but a pattern on the AVCHD disc available here on my PS3 fixed my HDMI, guess it had to be 1920x1080, black checker box first in top left hand corner. I'm assuming I can fix the comp as well, and maybe AV using the PS3 analog cables, but what about TV? i dont have any devices with an RF connector and there is no option for DTV (ATSC), any ideas?

BTW, there are patterns built into the TV, including a checkerboard pattern and the color bars for the NTSC low def sources under FRCM called patt-before and patt-after, click right on the remote dpad to scroll through 6 different patterns on each, 12 in total. But I can't use these AND go into the ADC menu to calibrate using these images to get a "success".

So far I have gotten HDMI "success" and it looks great, but would like help getting TV (cable?) to display success, it is a bit off I think... And if I could find a way to display the patterns, would I use the NTSC color bars? I just have low def cable TV, and does HDMI "success" really calibrate the ATSC DTV tuner too? There isn't an option in the ADC calibration menu for ATSC.

Thanks in advance.

How about using one of the RF modulators that people use for hooking up their DVD players to TVs that have only tuners? You could feed it a composite signal from your PS3.

kindi_boy
03-16-09, 02:13 PM
am using a a650 samsung,

i did this stupid mistake by mistake i didn't even want to click anything except return but big fingers do wonders!!!!

anyways i've been trying to run the test again but i can't as in it does not run the calibration procedure again. it's stuck on failure. anyone knows what should i press to make it run the procedure ?

i really don't want to call samsung over this.


forgot to say it's the HDMI one.

kindi_boy
03-16-09, 02:34 PM
I found this somewhere... (http://www.avforums.com/forums/4379759-post3161.html)

- DISCLAIMER -

Before you proceed with the recalibration (or thinking about recalibrating your perfectly working F71) record ALL - i repeat ALL - your setting is the service menu - It is VITAL you do so in case something bad happens and you need to go back, the settings are made in the factory and is unique to your tv, onse you loose them there is no way to get them back.

SO DONT BLAME ME IF IT GOES WRONG.

- DISCLAIMER -

A while ago while fiddeling with the service menu i unfortuneatly activated the recalibration of the HDMI 1 port, it did not totaly mess up my F71 but it bugged me alot as it reported a Failure.


Here is what i did to remedy the failure:

1 : set your resolution to 1080p (60 or 30hz)
2 : download this checkerboard image
8x8bwcheck.zip
it is 1920x1080 monocrome (black and white), its zipped so unzip it.
it consists of 8x8 fields starting in the top left corner with a white sqare
3 : view the image
DONT use microsofts image viewer , it sux ;
download irfanview and view the picture FULLSCREEN !!!!!!
get it here : http://www.irfanview.com/
4 : turn the tv off
5 : press info,menu,mute,power
6 : be absoluteley sure you are in the port you need to calibrate
7 : go into the calibration menu, select HDMI and press right on the remote.
8 : wait (mine took about 10 seconds)
9 : now it should say success !!!!
10 : go back into the main service menu
11 : select reset...

and youre done, remember to take a note of the new settings
Here is mine if you are interested :
Quote:
Service menu before recalib (HDMI 1 FAILURE) - BOLD is changes AFTER
successfull calibration
HDMI 1
Option Table
40
off
AMLCD_INT
ON
off
en
en
20
on
no
off
english
en
off
en
flof
off
off
off
8
auto
on
off
large
off
off
suwon
uk
off

White Bal.
132
144
128
126
160
107
128
141

svp px

comb filter
80

sharpness
0
4
0
4
0
0
0
0
4
2f
3f

NR
80
80
80
80

RGB CAL - HERE IS WHERE THE MAGIC SEEMS TO HAPPEN !!!!!!
48 47
48 47
48 47
39 57
39 58
39 57

ADC CALIBRaTION
78
20
80
80
00
40
80
80
d6
fe
fe
00
00

Calibration Target
17 d5 02
0f eb 02
17 d5 04
00 dd 08

color managment
yellowish
00
00
00

STV8257
4b
4b
07
00
41
41
41
41
7f


YC DELAY
aa
99
99
77
44
88
66
cc
aa
88
bb
aa
77

adjust
10
9
fe

LNA PLUS
4
7
19
24

W/B Moviw
off
movie

116
103
143
105
116
92
142
99
80
45
35
0
warm2

spread spectrum
on
+3
8
2
my tv is
LE40F71BXX
running the 1009SVC software (1:1 pm fix)

sorry for my lousy english but it is verry verry late here..........

---------------------

this fixed it!!!!

E2K
03-31-09, 10:08 AM
I need this for a samsung 5 series 37 inch A552 europe model with 35.000:1 contrast

mmichii
04-07-09, 02:52 AM
well i finally got the balls to call the service center for my area and they just replaced my main board (not the tcon or ip board). it was still in warranty and i was honest from the beginning what i did and he just told me to give him the model no., serial etc and he would replace the board.

now i bring this up as because the cost of a new board is 300 minus a 50 core charge which comes out to 250. i was told that it was the only true way to fix it and thats samsung's official fix for the problem. now 250 might not be bad considering you could have them come over and try to fix it with a pattern generator and get sort of back to where you were for probably the same cost. you can order the part from samsungparts.com or maybe from your local service center and just replace it yourself. its simple just a lot screwdriver work. i helped the repair guy do it and later i had to fix the butcher job he did reattaching the back cover.

if you've ever built your own pc its no more difficult and it is a GUARANTEED solution. Once done don't ever ever go back in that damn service menu

r3alsp33dy0ne
06-23-09, 09:13 AM
Got a slightly different prob here. Hope somebody can advise me. I just bought an LA32B650. I work for a company that provides video on demand systems for hotels and some of the TV's we use are samsung LCD's so im familiar with the samsung service menu and the calibration section.

When I went into the service menu on my new TV I noticed that all the calibrations are showing "failure". I have not changed anything myself in the service menu. It came this way from the factory. Through my previous experience with samsung TV's I have never seen one that came like this brand new.

The picture quality seems OK (although the contrast may be a little off when using the tuner) but obviously I want it to be the best it can be.

I'm gonna call Samsung and try to get them to send a tech with a pattern generator. Trouble is, I dont think they will believe me that I didnt do this myself.

Any advise on how to deal with them in this regard? Does going into the service menu automaticly void my warranty? What about if a certified calibrator went in there instead of me? Warranty still void?