I'd like to stay under $15,000. Can you get a good one for that?

I can build you one for $14,995

The best ones, I find, are the ones that you plug into the wall and then into the thing that you are trying to power, because that makes it so much easier to get the power from the wall to the thing. But, of course, these cost more, so you may be out of luck.

Once again another needless thread fueled by none other than the person who is always there to stir up the pot. Happy New Year Tryg

You must be into those Jaeger bombs one day early ;)

The best ones, I find, are the ones that you plug into the wall and then into the thing that you are trying to power, because that makes it so much easier to get the power from the wall to the thing. But, of course, these cost more, so you may be out of luck.

I've been using wireless cords for years. No coloration.

The only issue is, the magnetism thrown off my the inductive loop around my room is so intense, it's been known to bring down planes a la Lost.

Happy Gnu Year everyone!

How about just using your **** power cord with regenerated AC power? Buy one and we can throw in a good power cord for free, as well as Curt's opinion on power cords - that you always get for free.

I refuse to add more fuel to this senseless thread... Ooops too late:(

Happy New Year to you all....:)

I thought that now that Tryg works for AVS he would , well...... never mind it was fantasy.

Art

Send me a PM: I have one I can let go for $12,629.

You must be into those Jaeger bombs one day early ;)

Early? I never stop.

I enjoy Jeager on my cornflakes for breakfast :)

These are a matched pair that I personally selected by hand:

http://www.asubookstores.com/collegecomforts/images/items/extension%20cord.jpg

I'd be willing to sell them together for $15K.

Happy New Year!

I'd like to stay under $15,000. Can you get a good one for that?Assuming you will use it for an audio system...

Upgrading one cable isn't enough because the rest of the cables will become bottlenecks, you need the same cable for the whole system to get synergy.
My first Nordost Valhalla gave the smallest improvement and my last gave the biggest improvement.

If you don't hear a difference with your first cable it doesn't mean there isn't a difference. The first cables I tried were a couple cheap Nordost Vishnus, I replaced the stock cables of amp and DAC and only heard a subtle improvement in smoothness, my system sounded very harsh before that! If I had replaced only one cable I would have become a skeptic and starting to troll forums about the "truth". But instead I investigated further and bought a Valhalla, it gave a subtle improvement and I still wasn't sure it was real, so I bought another Valhalla and then something happened. The improvement was big enough to convince me it was real.

The power cords aren't enough, you also need the interconnects and speaker cables. I refused to believe the speaker cable mattered so I could buy a projector with the money, that was a big mistake, half a year later I tried it and it made a huge improvement in bass texture. I wished I had it sooner.

$15 000 should be enough for the whole system if you buy Valhallas used for half price.

These are a matched pair that I personally selected by hand:

http://www.asubookstores.com/collegecomforts/images/items/extension%20cord.jpg

I'd be willing to sell them together for $15K.

Happy New Year!

I smell a rat!
one is a 15 footer and the other is a 6 footer.
Matched pair my a$$!

Happy new year everybody!
Including the ones with the aluminum-foil hats and iron wallets! :D

I smell a rat!
one is a 15 footer and the other is a 6 footer.
Matched pair my a$$!

Happy new year everybody!
Including the ones with the aluminum-foil hats and iron wallets! :D

What are you saying? That they can't possibly go together because they're different colors? Sounds like power-cord bigotry.

:D :) :p

And don't make fun of foil-hat people! Some have some good ideas:


http://www.kellyhills.com/pictures/2004/Seattle/UW/1122/RaLouche/RaLouche-Images/15.jpg

Early? I never stop.

I enjoy Jeager on my cornflakes for breakfast :)

I'm a bigger fan of Beerios myself, but everyone has their own high end tastes.

I thought this debate had already been settled and that the only true cable to use was twisted coat hangers from the dry cleaners! :)

Happy New Year all
-brian

What are you saying? That they can't possibly go together because they're different colors? Sounds like power-cord bigotry.

:D :) :p

You can call me power-cordist. I hate them all!
;)

To the Al hat people:
[Ali G] RESPECT! [/Ali G]

I'd like to stay under $15,000. Can you get a good one for that?

Maybe if you can if you find one used... ;)

What??? no one has a come back for ValhallaPC??
you guys are slipping...

I had one typed up, but since I use ordinary power cords with my computer I couldn't tell the difference between the "post" and "cancel" buttons on my screen, and pressed the wrong one.

it's time for Wilson to release new speakers... this forum is absolutely dying on the vine with nothing to talk about. Until Wilson has something new for the pro and con Wilson crowd to rally around, there is not much to talk about, apparently.

it's time for Wilson to release new speakers... this forum is absolutely dying on the vine with nothing to talk about. Until Wilson has something new for the pro and con Wilson crowd to rally around, there is not much to talk about, apparently.

Tzucc...how about this one which makes the Polaris a reality......


Thank you for your recent e-mail. The rumor about the Center which will
integrate with the Maxx and X2, Polaris, is true. This will be large
and
capable. As far as MSRP that will be evaluated after the R&D
process.
One of our philosophies is not letting price-points dictate the
development of our products. We price after the product is completed in
R&D, or close to.


To address your question about an upgrade for the current WATCH Center,
we are always looking to improve our current product line and
incorporate new technologies into new design. I'm not at liberty to
discuss projects which are slated for development or which are in the
development process. Keep your eyes on our website and you might be
hearing something within the year.


Take care,


Daryl Wilson
Customer Service
daryl@wilsonaudio.com
www.wilsonaudio.com
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that's swell... leave us X1 customers out in the cold!

Assuming you will use it for an audio system...

Upgrading one cable isn't enough because the rest of the cables will become bottlenecks, you need the same cable for the whole system to get synergy.
My first Nordost Valhalla gave the smallest improvement and my last gave the biggest improvement.

If you don't hear a difference with your first cable it doesn't mean there isn't a difference. The first cables I tried were a couple cheap Nordost Vishnus, I replaced the stock cables of amp and DAC and only heard a subtle improvement in smoothness, my system sounded very harsh before that! If I had replaced only one cable I would have become a skeptic and starting to troll forums about the "truth". But instead I investigated further and bought a Valhalla, it gave a subtle improvement and I still wasn't sure it was real, so I bought another Valhalla and then something happened. The improvement was big enough to convince me it was real.

The power cords aren't enough, you also need the interconnects and speaker cables. I refused to believe the speaker cable mattered so I could buy a projector with the money, that was a big mistake, half a year later I tried it and it made a huge improvement in bass texture. I wished I had it sooner.

$15 000 should be enough for the whole system if you buy Valhallas used for half price.
What about the couple miles of wire outside your house? Last I checked your signal can only be as good as it's source, isnt' that a common quip in audio? Or what about all the dirty, dirty, materials within your $10,000 amps. I mean, every piece that was attached was soldered on, lots of room to improve there. There's not even a perfect geometry with it!

To be perfectly honest, if I continued to spend money on something that didn't do anything, I'd make sure I to convince myself it did too. Furthermore, just a quick engineering lesson. If the length, resistance and capacitance of your cables don't change, then the signal given to your amps didnt' change either, I don't care what hyper crystalline structure exists within the wire.

If you do feel you hear a difference, perhaps you should spend some money to get those values tested, you can see what physical qualities are about the wires you prefer.

Heck, if I wanted a stronger lowend I'd mess with my subs location, or perhaps give it more power, polyfill, even add an eq if it came down to it. I'd say the last thing on my list would be spending 15,000 on speaker wire to get a slight change in the signal going to the sub, there are too many cheaper ways to alter its' final output, that have a known and predicable effect. That's just me anyway, FAR more brains than money. (college student studying phsyics)

ValhallaPC has hooked one and he's reeling him in...

Yeehaaa! lets see if he can land him in the boat!

ValhallaPC has hooked one and he's reeling him in...
Hooked how? Like fishing?

People can believe what they want to believe, but I choose to believe in the truth. I have made blind tests and scored 99.99% in an upsampling blind test, the difference between power cords is bigger, but the testing is more difficult to do. I haven't made enough trials for it to be statistically significant yet. I don't bother doing more, it's too fatiguing, I have already proved to myself I'm not delusional. I don't care what anyone else thinks.

I'd like to stay under $15,000. Can you get a good one for that?$15,000? If you weren't so stingy, you could afford Mothra Power Cords. Take a look:

http://www.meter.com/mothra/powcord.html

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Sanjay

I have made blind tests and scored 99.99% in an upsampling blind test,

Ha, that's nothing.

I did a blind test between 2-bit and 16-bit audio and I scored 1,000,000.00%

How about that?

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At Mothra, you won't get snake oil; you'll get the entire snake...

Ha, that's nothing.

How about that?

that only means your mathematics is wrong :D a primary school kid will know that you cannot surpass 100% unless the extras are fabricated

that only means your mathematics is wrong :D a primary school kid will know that you cannot surpass 100% unless the extras are fabricated

Only stupid people can't count past a hundred. How on earth are you going to be able to "give 110%" then? How come there are three halves in hockey? How come some universities are moving to a system where there are 5 quarters in the year? You're behind the times. This is new math! We're post-mathematics these days, stop being so modern. It's just so passe... :rolleyes:

topic closed

:D