The cheap version of the cable (interconnect) just trounced Valhalla. The Valhalla was 1M, and mine was 2M. This, from a Nordost dealer. Which one, shall remain nameless.....

My cable was also brand new, not burned in in any way, shape, or form. It gets far better after burn in. Far better. Remember, it was also twice as long. These things add up to a huge difference.

It will very likely trounce the Zero as well.

The speaker cables are notably more mind boggling.

An amazing digital cable also exists.

These cables seem to literally remove the cable as an area of concern. Ie, Pre power pairs sound more like intergrateds, as if the cable contributes...nothing. The last complaint of seperate components.... is removed. And I have only just begun. As an example, I came up with something far superior to RSC, about 5 years before Matthew Bond did...but I never published, or told anyone, obviously. And what I came up with then, is still far superior to anything he's done yet. And this stuff is far, far beyond any of that.

The few people who have tried the cables...absolutely refuse to give them back.

Andy: You are in T-O? and what cables do you use? I might be convinced to drive by and do an audition.

Note that I mention no pricing. I have no desire to take food off of anyone's table based on perception, vs hard existent realities.

Ken, are you making "GOO Cables and Interconnects" now? Is there a weblink?

Look, my biggest digs on Ken have been of the "put up or shut up" variety. (Well, maybe second place to "that's a crock of...") If Screen Goo is any indication, then when Ken does actually get something sellable out the door, it's good. I won't be in Montreal, but now I am looking forward to the reports on the speakers. The cables of course are a different story :)

Best wishes Ken!


Both the cables and the speakers are, well, to put it bluntly, the best of the best, period. But, like the zen master...and/or the 90 year old head of the Martial Arts Academy....who looks like some little old man quietly shuffling down the street... they simply don't look it. And when 5 or 7 punks try to beat the old guy and take his wallet, they find out -real fast- what an honest visit to the hospital actually means.

We are not here to satisfy egos with big bits of fluffy bomastic design. both look deceptively simple, but neither are. We can do that, if one feels they need it. The customer is always right.

I am putting up. It simply took some time to arrange, and to get to that place. I remember..when I was living at another place, I used to walk my pup to a big park every day. Every day I walked past a bus that someone had converted to a mobile shop, for their drag racing efforts. Up in the marquee on the front..was a sign. What did it say? 'Go Big Or Stay Home'.

I always kept that in mind, and spent nearly 20 years getting ready for that.

So where is the product web link Ken??

The cheap version of the cable (interconnect) just trounced Valhalla. The Valhalla was 1M, and mine was 2M. This, from a Nordost dealer. Which one, shall remain nameless.....

My cable was also brand new, not burned in in any way, shape, or form. It gets far better after burn in. Far better. Remember, it was also twice as long. These things add up to a huge difference.

It will very likely trounce the Zero as well.

The speaker cables are notably more mind boggling.

An amazing digital cable also exists.

These cables seem to literally remove the cable as an area of concern. Ie, Pre power pairs sound more like intergrateds, as if the cable contributes...nothing. The last complaint of seperate components.... is removed. And I have only just begun. As an example, I came up with something far superior to RSC, about 5 years before Matthew Bond did...but I never published, or told anyone, obviously. And what I came up with then, is still far superior to anything he's done yet. And this stuff is far, far beyond any of that.

The few people who have tried the cables...absolutely refuse to give them back.

Andy: You are in T-O? and what cables do you use? I might be convinced to drive by and do an audition.

Note that I mention no pricing. I have no desire to take food off of anyone's table based on perception, vs hard existent realities.

Ken, are you making "GOO Cables and Interconnects" now? Is there a weblink?


No, sorry Steve. No link, no website. Both my Biz partner and I are lazy guys who realistically realize that our personal lives and joy of music and audio will be (nearly) completely over, once we go into business in the same areas. So we have staunchly resisted such, for over 12 years now.

I forced the situation, with a crowbar and a blunt intstrument. I used it on myself, and my biz partner. So product will be at the show, people will very likely love it, and we will be pushed by them to produce it. Damn. What a pain.

Those who have never gone into business on a scale where product needs to be manufactured, distributed (world wide), supported, documented, advertised, protected, and advanced through constant research, really have no freaking clue how much it takes over and dominates your life. The life you used to have, pre-success. It is both fun..and nightmarish.

In the words of Mr. Grado, who helped us out with some evaluation cartridges, many years back, "congratulations, the fun part is over".

But like all things, that time has come, and product must eventually be manufactured and pushed out the door. With the help of my good friend Steve Ginsberg, who has been in manufacturing for a very long time, the owner of the company (Tri-Art) who produces the Goo Systems product, and is also a partner (and huge audio fanatic) in Goo, I have learned what it takes to competently address the the issues of manufacturing and distribution. I cut my teeth on Goo Systems. Being an audio fanatic means nothing in the face of a audio manufacturing situation. Unless one has a good bit of learned and earned business savvy, the venture is nearly bound to fail.

Now, time for the Audio.

BTW, this is NOT goo Sytems product. Separate venture. Not in a way that is wholly without support, but the two of us, Taras and I, are a separate company.

Once this company is fully up and running, expect some neato Goo Audio products to come out of the two working together. Steve has been desiging the Goo audio products in his head for years now. :D He's ready!

Bruzonsky are you really that stupid as to think I am Vahalia? First of all I wouldn't buy the BS that nutjob does. I wouldn't even think about spending that kind of money on cable or PSA gear even for a test.

That guy is more dangerous with his gear than the advice DJ Paul gives out. He likes the snake oil. I wish all the snake oils would go out of business.

BTW, this is NOT goo Sytems product. Separate venture.
Ken,

I always told you that the name of your company should not be Goo Systems, but rather Boo Systems with the tagline "stuff so good it's scary" (and if you guys can believe it Ken never thanked me once).

Anyhow, I'm glad to hear you are going to be going with a different name for your cable venture and I've again come up with the perfect name for you:

SOJBL

An acronym for Snake Oil, Jive, Bullsh*t & Lies

Bruzonsky are you really that stupid as to think I am Vahalia? First of all I wouldn't buy the BS that nutjob does. I wouldn't even think about spending that kind of money on cable or PSA gear even for a test.

That guy is more dangerous with his gear than the advice DJ Paul gives out. He likes the snake oil. I wish all the snake oils would go out of business.

Poor Speco is having a bad day. This thread has been going real nice and hasn't been closed. I think Speco wants to close this thread. Speco is talkin' about something that isn't even being discussed here in this thread - I haven't even posted in this thread for months. Speco, get a lobotomy!

Ken,

I always told you that the name of your company should not be Goo Systems, but rather Boo Systems with the tagline "stuff so good it's scary" (and if you guys can believe it Ken never thanked me once).

Anyhow, I'm glad to hear you are going to be going with a different name for your cable venture and I've again come up with the perfect name for you:

SOJBL

An acronym for Snake Oil, Jive, Bullsh*t & Lies

You'll be glad to hear then, that the 3 meter bi-wire speaker run set I put together for the show..comes in at a paltry $13kUS list price. (Ouch! Crikey! I couldn't afford them!!!) Now, that is normal mark up pricing, from costs to retail. No extra 'bull' mixed in with the pricing. I stress, a totally normalized pricing structure.

That's what you get when you design and manufacture (yes, actually manufacture - myself --- not outsourced) your own conductors. This is revolutionary, in terms of cables, period.

Edit: If you guys are wondering what the Acoustic products look like, well..they are being offered by the show organizer (google search 'fsi expo') for the rooms, in case anyone showing product at the show thinks the acoustics of the rooms suck. The fee is very nominal for the effect generated. Go to the site, and look under 'professional' (exhibitors) and look under 'acoustics'. There they are. The versions that are going to be available for the show are a bit cleaner and neater looking, I just took that shot (photo) so there would be product shot of some sort. Here, I'll grab it for you: http://www.fsiexpo.com/2007/b/p__sa.html

You'll be glad to hear then, that the 3 meter bi-wire speaker run set I put together for the show..comes in at a paltry $13kUS list price. (Ouch! Crikey! I couldn't afford them!!!) Now, that is normal mark up pricing, from costs to retail. No extra 'bull' mixed in with the pricing. I stress, a totally normalized pricing structure.

That's what you get when you design and manufacture (yes, actually manufacture - myself --- not outsourced) your own conductors. This is revolutionary, in terms of cables, period.

Edit: If you guys are wondering what the Acoustic products look like, well..they are being offered by the show organizer (google search 'fsi expo') for the rooms, in case anyone showing product at the show thinks the acoustics of the rooms suck. The fee is very nominal for the effect generated. Go to the site, and look under 'professional' (exhibitors) and look under 'acoustics'. There they are. The versions that are going to be available for the show are a bit cleaner and neater looking, I just took that shot (photo) so there would be product shot of some sort. Here, I'll grab it for you: http://www.fsiexpo.com/2007/b/p__sa.html



KBK, give ValhallaPC a forum 50% discount and I'm sure he'll buy a whole bunch of your new cables!!! I can't afford them even at that!!!@@@ Speco might buy them at 99% off. You've sure come a long way pricewise from when you were my Special Guest at the old AVS Special Guests forum years ago with your first product the "Goo" screen. And no one argued about your reasonable price then. HA!!!

QQQ would likey want me to buy a bunch of these first:

http://www.under-tec.com/index.php

I have hesitated posting here, but if i have a 10k system but I spent 50k on my room acoustics, can I post here (in this thread) :-)

I have hesitated posting here, but if i have a 10k system but I spent 50k on my room acoustics, can I post here (in this thread) :-)

Yes...you are one of the few that has actually learned something at AVS forum....:D

Dear Poupon eaters,

I do not know if I belong here,to the group of elitist High-End AVS members,I dare not venture in the 20K plus section. As the smell of Poupon permeates my putter screen,and chokes me.

If I had to make a list of my audio gear it would be way to long,but since I own Tenor Audio,Krell,Dynaudio,Revel,Aerial,Audio Research,Velodyne DD,JL Audio,SimAudio,Anthem Statement and a Pioneer DVAX10 I hope to fit in the group.

I am too ashamed to mention the other gear. :o

Have mercy Mr Bruzonsky

All right I will confess,I also purchased a pair of Cerwin Vega mains and sub to re live the old times(the 80s)! Please do not make an outcast of the poor ole Ear. :p

If you are a subwoofer fanatic gone insane... you are in the right place.

And for the record, are you a bens or a schwarz's person?

And for the record, are you a bens or a schwarz's person?

Excuse the fog in my mind but can you define the above? :o

Schwartz is black in German

QQQ would likey want me to buy a bunch of these first:

http://www.under-tec.com/index.php

Do people in Hollywood use those to reduce their carbon footprint?

Yes...you are one of the few that has actually learned something at AVS forum....:DCool :)

This forum makes me chuckle...

Whilst I do not begrudge someone their indulgences, the simple fact that a member here has the expendable income to spend more on (insert component of choice here) than I bought my home for doesn't make me a schlep or them a better person. I don't make it a point to post or even regularly surf in here, but it is nice to occasionally drop in just to see what the other side looks like.


That being said, I don't even come close...

Panasonic AE900U - $1K
100" DIY screen - $100
NEC 50XR5 plasma - $3500
Sony KV30HS420 - $800
Samsung SIRTS360 - $400
DirecTV HR10-250 - $0 (Thank You DirecTV!)
Toshiba A1 HD DVD - $499
20GB PS3 Blu-Ray - $499
Yamha HTR-5930 - $200
Polk R30s - $100
Polk CSi25 - $50
Polk R15s - $85
HSU STF1 - $300
Harmony 880 - $150

Feeling I get every time I fire the system up - Priceless

I'm starting my attic this weekend to turn it into a dedicated HT space. I don't plan on spending more than $2K. But you know what? I betcha I'll feel just as good as if I wore a Rolex, drove an S500 and had a $500K house.

No insult meant to anyone, I just want to show that we're all here for the same reason, a passion for HT, regardless of our means.

I spent many times that amount but I mostly post here to irritate everybody. The highlight of my day is when OB reports one of my post to the moderator for editing or worse..

I spent many times that amount

We are talking Uncle Sam's greenbacks not the French franc :)

The problem with Rufugio is that I am never sure if he is someone else's alter ego???

Dont forget that the franc has been gone for a while and the Euro is much stronger than the dollar.

OB,

I freely admit womens (and mens) fashion bring out my gay alter ego. Get me near a Zegna or Lora Piana boutique and my ass wiggles my wallet right out of my back pocket:D..

(I have to admit...the wives three favorite bags are ones I picked out for her....no she didn't exchange them ;) .
Wow, I knew you were a little beyeitch! :D

I have to admit...the wives three favorite bags are ones I picked out for her....no she didn't exchange them .


Wow, I knew you were a little beyeitch! :D

Isn't that a slick bag? Ostrich to boot!:D

ahh...fashion!

http://www.winglake.com/images/components_current/Photo_031607_001.jpg

That's a Hermes Kelly bag. It looks so much better than those tool bags for women they make in Italy (they call them baguettes).

That's a Hermes Kelly bag. It looks so much better than those tool bags for women they make in Italy (they call them baguettes).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/French_bread%2C_photo.jpg

That's a Hermes Kelly bag. It looks so much better than those tool bags for women they make in Italy (they call them baguettes).

Refugio...where is your gay-ness? It's a Birkin..not a kelly bag!

The problem with Rufugio is that I am never sure if he is someone else's alter ego???

I am Grosse Fatigue alter ego. The Grosse Fatigues go back to the Crusades.
One of my ancestor Jean-Paul delivered a box of chocolate (a trick) from the King of France to Jerusalem's Grand Mufti, before killing him with a gunshot, taking over Jerusalem and all their women..

More recently, about five years ago, Grosse Fatigue had a post from then moderator Steve Bruzonsky edited out by Alan Gouger after Steve lost his marble and his temper with Grosse, a rare feat on any forum.

Refugio...where is your gay-ness? It's a Birkin..not a kelly bag!

Actually you are right.. Jane Birkin.. It is still a Hermes though.

By the way do you know who Jane Birkin is? She is the British born French singer and actress who started -one of the two girls naked- in Blow Up, Michelangelo Antonioni master piece movie.

I am Grosse Fatigue alter ego. The Grosse Fatigues go back to the Crusades.
One of my ancestor Jean-Paul delivered a box of chocolate (a trick) from the King of France to Jerusalem's Grand Mufti, before killing him with a gunshot, taking over Jerusalem and all their women..
.
OK. I'll bite. What King? What ancestor? What Grand Mufti?

OK. I'll bite. What King? What ancestor? What Grand Mufti?

It is not an alter ego but rather a delusion of grandeur ;)

OB you are jalous.
An other ancestor, Charles-Hubert de Grosse Fatigue, became the lover of the Queen of England while the King was playing cards in an other room at the hotel George V in Paris. The expression "french lover" comes directly from my ancestor Charles-Hubert encounter with the Queen..

By the way do you know who Jane Birkin is? She is the British born French singer and actress who started -one of the two girls naked- in Blow Up, Michelangelo Antonioni master piece movie.

The blond or the brunette it appeared to be the natural hair color ?

Art

OB you are jalous.

Trust me I am not jalous,not even jealous :rolleyes: