View Full Version : PS3: fastest selling Sony launch console, outsells XB360's launch


joeblow
01-08-07, 02:41 AM
PS3 Launch Outsells Xbox 360 Launch

Sony today announced that they have sold 1 million Playstation 3s in North America since the launch of the console six weeks ago.

That makes the Playstation 3 the fastest selling home console Sony has ever launched.

Microsoft sold 600,000 of their Xbox 360s from their November launch to the second week in January.

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/ps3-launch-outsells-xbox-360-launch-226742.php

GeorgeLV
01-08-07, 02:50 AM
I'll take shipped not sold for $599, Alex.

G-force
01-08-07, 03:22 AM
Considering the PS3 costs close to twice as much as the 360 the numbers are impressive whichever way you look at it. Just dont let the fanboys hear that. ;)

Hughmc
01-08-07, 03:57 AM
I'll take shipped not sold for $599, Alex.

Actually shipped would be closer to 1.5 million+ to North America alone. The first 1/2 million were going to have Talladega Nights included. Several AVS members have already reported they did not receive Talladega nights with their PS3. Since AVS, those who come to AVS and those who actually own a PS3 that are AVS members is small, a million sold in N.A. is not even unreasonable unless you are basing it on the biased and erroneous AVS members stories.

Sales so far in Japan and the U.S. are probably close to 1.5 million with Japan buying almost .5 million.

http://www.vgcharts.org/

Stupac
01-08-07, 04:53 AM
Yeah, with all the consoles on the shelf in US, they have probably shipped 1.5 million. Alot better than expected.

mboojigga
01-08-07, 05:38 AM
Why does anyone bother comparing launch numbers. It is strange because the 360 still sold more consoles this xmas then the PS3 or Wii during the 1 Nov - 25 Dec time frame. I am pretty sure alot especially MS could care less that Sony sold the fastest at launch vs a year ago. Plus, didn't the Wii already take this title?

Cynn
01-08-07, 06:28 AM
Considering the PS3 costs close to twice as much as the 360 the numbers are impressive whichever way you look at it. Just dont let the fanboys hear that. ;)

He does have a point there.

FrankJ.Cone
01-08-07, 07:04 AM
ROFLMAO! Thats page 2 news. Page 1 news: Wii sales eclipse PS3 sales, fastest selling launch console ever.

William Mapstone
01-08-07, 10:08 AM
1 Million BD players... I hope this convinces some of the brick&mortar rental stores in my area to start renting BD movies.

HorrorScope
01-08-07, 10:17 AM
It's all about the hype!

William Mapstone
01-08-07, 11:13 AM
Hype or not, I just want to be able to walk into a rental store and rent BD and HDDVD movies.

snobgoblin
01-08-07, 12:26 PM
Sony just came out at press meeting and said that .5 million of those units are returned from Ebay scalpers :p

jayselle
01-08-07, 01:22 PM
My local best buy's have the PS3's piled up. The 360 wasn't widely available like the PS3 is now until around March if I remember right. The 360 had twice as many units for launch as well.

Stupac
01-08-07, 10:44 PM
Sony is just building them way to fast. But impressive because of the HDMI 1.3 and Blue-Ray diodes.

Tripjammer
01-09-07, 11:32 AM
My local best buy's have the PS3's piled up. The 360 wasn't widely available like the PS3 is now until around March if I remember right. The 360 had twice as many units for launch as well.

In San Antonio Texas...

You can find a PS3 at walmart...there are only like 1 or 2 of them in the case..

You can not find a PS3 at bestbuy...they are all sold out.

You can not find a Wii or Ds light anywhere..

You can a PS3 at target, but there are only 1 or 2 in the case...

They are not stacked up anywhere in this city..

There are walmarts and targets that are sold out in San Antonio.

Its impressive that you can actually buy a PS3 if you want one, which can not be said for the DS Lite and Wii.


By the way, i have all 3 consoles....but the PS3 is now my favorite..

JackBau3r
01-09-07, 01:16 PM
Good news. Top that off with Blue Ray selling better than HD-DVD, and you have even better news, but anything positive on PS3 equals "Bad News Bears."

briankmonkey
01-09-07, 01:49 PM
http://www.pregamelobby.com/images/smilies/dualw.gif



]"With software sales up 700 percent since the mid-November launch of Playstation 3 and other Blu-ray hardware from manufacturers, the market is poised for maximum impact blockbusters like Casino Royale," said David Bishop, President, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment. "This is just the tip of the iceberg for Blu-ray in 2007."

http://www.pregamelobby.com/images/smilies/dualw.gif


http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/CES/Sony/Disc_Announcements/CES:_Casino_Royale,_MPEG-4_Support_Highlight_Sonys_Q1_Blu-ray_Plans/427

ChrisFB
01-09-07, 02:14 PM
Just a point in regards to unit sales over time frames. You have to look at units that were made available not just what was sold (i.e. what was available to be sold). In essence the proper and only way to look at it is that through all comparable horizons to this point (holiday launch date to early/mid Jan for all consoles in the last 2 years) all companies were able to sell all available units. Demand always outstripped supply and only supply was the constraint.

For instance, is there any wonder Xbox360 outperformed the PS3 from initial launch through Christmas timeframe (I think this is true, doesn't really matter though)? Not at all. Sony's initial availability in this period was horrible (even worse than the 360 launch). Bottom line, both companies sold every unit available.

For instance 2, is there any wonder that the PS3 outperformed the Xbox360 from launch to mid-January? Not at all. Although initial availability of PS3 was lower, they were able to ramp manufacturing much faster than Microsoft (for several production related reasons) and get more units to the public. Both companies between launch and mid-January sold every unit available.

So if there is any award, it's to Nintendo for doing the closest to a proper launch and getting the most units out (and they still sold everything). MSFT for totally botching their launch yet edging out the PS3 initially. And of course Sony for ramping production for initial abysmal levels more quickly than MSFT could.

So there is no better or worse or even any knowledge of price sensativity for comparison reasons (i.e. XBox360 is 1 year offset so more data just not enough PS3 and wii comp) thus far because demand is not yet known. The only thing that is known is that supply and price points were exceeded by demand.

The brain is mightier than the hype. One just has to use it.

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EDIT - for what it's worth in Pittsburgh I have not seen a single PS3 or Wii console. I also did not see my first Xbox360 console on a shelf until mid to late March of last year. Still all that really says is that demand outstripped supply or units made available for sale in each case thusfar. In the end it's total unit sales and game sales over significant time spans which tend to work synergistically. I.e. once supply, demand, and price are in balance for a good period.

flood222
01-09-07, 02:23 PM
We all know its going to sell like crazy, its a Sony product!

Now if they could just get some simple things like listening to music in game streamed from the PC over the network. Voice chat anywhere. Not have to leave the game to check messages, etc.....it will come with time.

mboojigga
01-11-07, 01:46 AM
We all know its going to sell like crazy, its a Sony product!

Now if they could just get some simple things like listening to music in game streamed from the PC over the network. Voice chat anywhere. Not have to leave the game to check messages, etc.....it will come with time.


Thats been available on the 360 :D what do you need a PS3 to do that since the concept is that Sony isn't trying to be like Live.

spwolf
01-11-07, 05:34 PM
Just a point in regards to unit sales over time frames. You have to look at units that were made available not just what was sold (i.e. what was available to be sold). In essence the proper and only way to look at it is that through all comparable horizons to this point (holiday launch date to early/mid Jan for all consoles in the last 2 years) all companies were able to sell all available units. Demand always outstripped supply and only supply was the constraint.

For instance, is there any wonder Xbox360 outperformed the PS3 from initial launch through Christmas timeframe (I think this is true, doesn't really matter though)? Not at all. Sony's initial availability in this period was horrible (even worse than the 360 launch). Bottom line, both companies sold every unit available.

For instance 2, is there any wonder that the PS3 outperformed the Xbox360 from launch to mid-January? Not at all. Although initial availability of PS3 was lower, they were able to ramp manufacturing much faster than Microsoft (for several production related reasons) and get more units to the public. Both companies between launch and mid-January sold every unit available.

So if there is any award, it's to Nintendo for doing the closest to a proper launch and getting the most units out (and they still sold everything). MSFT for totally botching their launch yet edging out the PS3 initially. And of course Sony for ramping production for initial abysmal levels more quickly than MSFT could.

So there is no better or worse or even any knowledge of price sensativity for comparison reasons (i.e. XBox360 is 1 year offset so more data just not enough PS3 and wii comp) thus far because demand is not yet known. The only thing that is known is that supply and price points were exceeded by demand.

The brain is mightier than the hype. One just has to use it.

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EDIT - for what it's worth in Pittsburgh I have not seen a single PS3 or Wii console. I also did not see my first Xbox360 console on a shelf until mid to late March of last year. Still all that really says is that demand outstripped supply or units made available for sale in each case thusfar. In the end it's total unit sales and game sales over significant time spans which tend to work synergistically. I.e. once supply, demand, and price are in balance for a good period.
Really... at least MS had latest gen graphics card, and PS3 has all sorts of latest gen technologies... on the other hand, GameCube+, err, Wii is 2-3 year old technology and they still cant get enough production. Plus, Wii is more than 2x cheaper than PS3.

You would expect Wii to sell better than product that costs $300 more, wouldnt you?

I think real suprise is PS2, which outsold all of them, even in USA, and it simply killed the competition everywhere else.

ChrisFB
01-11-07, 06:11 PM
You would expect Wii to sell better than product that costs $300 more, wouldnt you?

A few thoughts -

Not really. There was a good chance after the GameCube and knowing that the technology wouldn't be competitive that it could flop at all but very cheap prices ($150-100). I think it came out near best case scenario but 12 months ago not what anyone with any business savy would bet on. And manufacturing takes planning and time as well as being unforgivingly expensive in a mistake. They hit a grand slam launch and captured everything and more becoming a "sensation". That may or may not last but we do know at his point in time at the current price they have sold every unit produced. It takes more data to model demand than that or even extract anything marginally useful.


I think real suprise is PS2, which outsold all of them, even in USA, and it simply killed the competition everywhere else.

Not a surpise. New consoles near launch never sell as well as cheaper existing ones when prices are high, the mass in mass market especially worldwide comes from getting hold of long desired technology at affordable pricing. The US is one of the wealthiest and largest markets and still there are many people who want to play games that cannot afford a next gen console. Going worldwide this gets far far broader. Dating myself but when the Atari 5200 and Colecovision were going head to head in that "next gen race", the 2600 was cleaning their clock domestically and worldwide. It was produced for nearly 15 years (it outlived it's successors by a long margin) and long after the USA had moved on it was still alive and kicking huge in poorer markets. While the biggest example, this is pretty standard unless you pull a MSFT and cut the console production (they could never get costs low enough on Xbox1 to go this route but that's more the exception in history).

flood222
01-11-07, 06:16 PM
Such conflicting reports.

I read one that says they are sitting in stores.

In analyzing those factors for excessive stock in the retail channel, McNealy comes to a number of conclusions, including a continuing lack of new games, especially 'killer new titles,' some two months into the console's life. He also points to the $600 MSRP, but admits that price cuts are a "complex corporate decision" and concludes that the group would be "surprised if SNE cut the price of the PS3 in CY07."

So which is it?

DLove23
01-11-07, 06:32 PM
ROFLMAO! Thats page 2 news. Page 1 news: Wii sales eclipse PS3 sales, fastest selling launch console ever.
Well, if you truly wanted to put apples to apples either put the Wii at $600 or the PS3 down to $250 and see what they would do on an equal level.

The PS3, and the 360 for that matter are, to me, the serious next gen gaming machines. The Wii is more of a "neat" kinda gaming machine. I'll get one sometime if for any other reason just to play Zelda. Graphically it is WAAAAAAY underpowered, and the gap between the consoles will only grow bigger with time. Yes, its the GAMES that matter, but when the difference is as profound as this it can't help but eventually become a major factor. I do commend Nintendo on gambling on a new, innovative way to play games. I'm sure the next generation of PS3 and Xbox will have similar capabilities on a higher level than the Sixaxis, and the reason will be the initial success of the Wii.

acegamer
01-11-07, 07:56 PM
Such conflicting reports.

I read one that says they are sitting in stores.

In analyzing those factors for excessive stock in the retail channel, McNealy comes to a number of conclusions, including a continuing lack of new games, especially 'killer new titles,' some two months into the console's life. He also points to the $600 MSRP, but admits that price cuts are a "complex corporate decision" and concludes that the group would be "surprised if SNE cut the price of the PS3 in CY07."

So which is it?

It's not really conflicting reports, it's just reports on different things. The over 1 million report is for units shipped to retailers not sold to actual consumers. The new NPD report released today is an estimate of units actually sold to consumers:

Nintendo DS 1,598,593
PlayStation 2 1,394,007
Xbox 360 1,131,886
PSP 953,182
Wii 604,170
PlayStation 3 490,682
Xbox 5,493


The PS3 sold a little less than half of what Sony shipped out. I'm not surprised to see this because I have been seeing an awful lot of the systems available all over Charlotte. I picked up one Monday night and the Gamestop that I bought it from still had several units left over from the shipment that they received on the day after Christmas. The excessive price is really making the PS3 a hard sell.

Kysersose
01-11-07, 08:09 PM
Does anyone here play games anymore?

Fanboys concern themselves with sales, gamers play games.
Happy gaming!