Its 2007, We have preliminary numbers for sales so far. This is going to be the bloodiest holiday since the SNES/Genesis era.

How many will Sony sell?

I'm guessing in the 4-6 million range. The early adopters/rabid fans will take up about 1-2 mil, the rest will filter in as the exclusive titles show themselves.

Frank,

nothing personal, but we have had a thread similar to this and I am almost certain it will be closed even if it doesn't get ugly. The mods view it as not constructive and unnecessary to gaming forums. Prior to that happening, I would say worldwide sales will hit close to 10 million or more when Europe comes on board and the other markets pick up steam upon realization that the PS3 is an incredible machine. The PS3 will sell itself by word of mouth as to what it can do.

Those who are not gamers are buying it for Blu Ray movies and they are trying gaming. Those who are gamers are going to buy Blu Ray movies and or rent them.

Yeah. I was going to post what HughMC said, because this thread could get ugly very fast.

God forbid we create a thread in fears the Mods might close it.
It's not like he's posting pron.

Well under 10 mil. PS3 is too expensive.



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Its a POLL, so far the only hint of bad things to come would be from you two.

I think it will be close to what the 360 did, around 10m shipped.

Its a POLL, so far the only hint of bad things to come would be from you two.


When you are right, you are right. Public polls are VERY revealing. This poll, even with a small response rate so far, has a bias that reads like a who's who of support for one for one over the other.

Seems overwhelmingly supportive of the PS3 to me.

I meant with specifically with respect to the 27 so far voted "well under 10 million". Actually, bias is both ways. Sony camp saying 10 or well over as well. Ahh...it's just numbers and opinions, time will tell. Hopefully, we will all benefit in the long run when this settles down a bit.

If Spring release games like Motorstorm, Lair, and Heavenly Sword plus others ALL turn out to be excellent polished games then I guess over 10 million is very possible. Games like MGS4 and Devil May Cry 4 wont be out soon enough in 2007 to make the dent required to hit 10 million in 07. If some turn out to be only average, I doubt Sony will be able to get close to 10 million in 2007. Probably around 6 million, which is nothing to laugh at. Dont forget that the 360 had no competition. And also don't forget that Sony is still making money on both the PS2 console and the PS2 software. I reckon a sh!t load of GoW2 games will be sold, given the 100 million PS2 user base.

And I voted "about 10 million" as I remain optomistic about the games I mentioned.:)

It's complete speculation and opinion of course, but my short and fast answer is kinda based on what the 360 has done. MS sold around 10 million in the first year with similar shortages of consoles and games at launch. There are probably some people who will not buy a ps3 this year because they already have a 360. The 360 also enjoys a bigger base of good games at least for now.

But, in Japan where the 360 collected dust last year, the ps3 will do great despite the high cost. So I think this will go a long way to allowing the ps3 to match the numbers of the 360.

I think the ps3 will sell almost as well as the 360 in the US for a few reasons. First, the blue ray player which was first seen as a mistake, could end up really helping sales. It is an excellent player and relatively cheap. Second, most gamers in America had a ps2 last generation and they are very brand loyal. And third, I think the ps3 is on track to have a software lineup that will match or surpass the 360 by the end of the year despite everyones grumblings at the moment. I don't know how many people here bought a launch 360 like I did, but there was a huge drought that was even worse than the current ps3 lineup.

So, at the end of the year I am going to guess the ps3 will match the 360 with around 10 million units. There is a lot more to say but I don't have the time. It should be fun to watch though.

I'd be surprised if it wasn't around 10 million either way. Sony has huge brand equity in the Playstation name, but they've also priced themselves out of a large part of the market.

Now, if there's a significant price drop ($399 for a 60GB) sometime during '07, I think you'll see sales take off like wildfire.

I voted well under. I expect closer to 4-5 million sold by end of 2007. All early adopters have purchased their systems already (and they are available in stores). I think the pricing is just too high especially through the next couple of months.

Here's some experts' opinions... (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4498&Itemid=2)

Basically about 7 million in NA, a whopping 18.5 million worldwide in 2007.

But, in Japan where the 360 collected dust last year, the ps3 will do great despite the high cost. So I think this will go a long way to allowing the ps3 to match the numbers of the 360.


This is pretty much what my thoughts are. Japan should be a solid 2M right there, so if the 360 hit 10M worldwide without Japan the PS3 should be around there with Japan. I'd have said much higher if not for the BR player bringing the price up. But $500-$600 isn't a ton of money for many people in the world. The first 10M should not balk at $500 bucks for a 20G at least.

This is pretty much what my thoughts are. Japan should be a solid 2M right there, so if the 360 hit 10M worldwide without Japan the PS3 should be around there with Japan. I'd have said much higher if not for the BR player bringing the price up. But $500-$600 isn't a ton of money for many people in the world. The first 10M should not balk at $500 bucks for a 20G at least.

Unless the Wii becomes the console to own in Japan.

I can see just under 10 million by end of 2007.

If Spring release games like Motorstorm, Lair, and Heavenly Sword plus others ALL turn out to be excellent polished games then I guess over 10 million is very possible. Games like MGS4 and Devil May Cry 4 wont be out soon enough in 2007 to make the dent required to hit 10 million in 07. If some turn out to be only average, I doubt Sony will be able to get close to 10 million in 2007. Probably around 6 million, which is nothing to laugh at. Dont forget that the 360 had no competition. And also don't forget that Sony is still making money on both the PS2 console and the PS2 software. I reckon a sh!t load of GoW2 games will be sold, given the 100 million PS2 user base.


I don't see Lair or Motorstorm being system sellers. Not even close. Heavenly Sword, maybe. The AAA games that will push hardware sales will definately be MGS4, FFXIII, and DMC4.

If I was to pick a game that was the reason for me to pick up my PS3, it would be Lair.

If Lair is polished it will be a system seller, BUT only if it is polished.

I voted well under. I expect closer to 4-5 million sold by end of 2007. All early adopters have purchased their systems already (and they are available in stores). I think the pricing is just too high especially through the next couple of months.


You are thinking only of the US.

Like I said yesterday the poll is showing the obvious bias many have. The 56 saying under 10 million are mainly 360 supporters. Those saying about 10 million or more mainly PS3 supporters. There are some in both camps that own both, but the poll numbers and who they are speaks volumes.

And before anyone wants to flame me or accuse me of getting into a fanboy war, look at the poll results. And my intention IS NOT to make it that kind of debate but rather to point out the obvious and leave it at that. Each camp definitely supports its own and that is fine.

system sellers don't always have to be sequels...halo was a system seller for xbox. I don't think it will be a already established franchise that will push ps3 on top, I think it will be a fresh. new title that will have plenty of "word of mouth" surrounding it. But of course mgs and ff's will do great obviously.

But in this case, it does. MGS and FF ARE system sellers.

Well I am in the "I will buy all three camp" and I still say that they will come in under 10 mil by the end of the year if they do not lower the price before hand. I have a Wii and will be buying a 360 after the V2 comes out later this year with HDMI and will buy a PS3 when the premium version is $399 or less. I dont want to get into a "value" debate but to me it is not worth $600. Even $400 for the 360 and $400 when the PS3 gets down there is pushing it for me. Dont get me wrong here it has nothing to do with disposable income as I have plenty. It is just that to me I cannot justify spending more than $400 for a game console. Bluray playback is nice and all but I do not want that at this point. I will wait for a dual format player to hit $300 or less when all of that stuff shakes out.

Anyway, I dont think that a lot of regular joes out there are going to buy it at the current price. Not a slam on the PS3 as a machine as it is great, just my opinion of reality from a mass market standpoint.