Just a heads up that there is a new dash update , not sure what it does just yet however (I did not notice anything new in the menus) .

-------- Jason

Not much of an update. I was hoping for HD DVD to start outputting DTS.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2006/0130-autoupdate.htm

That's for 2006.

That's for 2006.

Good looking out, I deleted it.

The UK reportedly got Video Marketplace from the patch...Anything new in terms of "tv" or anything on the update?

<crossing fingers> Please VGA 1080p sync problem fixed!! PLEASE!</crossing fingers>

I'm hoping it fixes the image shift to the right when using VGA that was introduced in the last update. I think this was especially prevalent with Samsung DLPs (like mine).

I'll have to check when I get home.

yeah I jumped on this morning before work to look for the new GOW update and was suprised by this. And then went and tested my media connections and my xbox live and my xbox wouldn't get a Ip... I ended up clearing the DHCP cache on my router and it worked... but it is just odd becuase it obviously pulled a ip before it did the update to connect... Hopefully that wasn't signs to come...that was about all I had time to play with... but Again nothing new in the menus that I saw.

Wishing for 1080i over VGA!!!

Yeah, right.... :(

I seem to have much less ( if any ) screen tearing. Will run some more tests. This based on a few GOW romps after the Dashboard update!

-Emerson

I guess Major Nelson is hung-over in Vegas still and hasn't put up on his site what the update does. :D

I seem to have much less ( if any ) screen tearing. Will run some more tests. This based on a few GOW romps after the Dashboard update!

-EmersonThe GoW patch came out today, so maybe that fixed the screen tearing. I'm still curious as to what the Dash update fixed.

Looks like VSYNC is on for the dashboard. Now if only we could get the 360 to force VSYNC for games...

Looks like VSYNC is on for the dashboard. Now if only we could get the 360 to force VSYNC for games...

I second that! :)

Just found this in one of the comments on Major Nelson, so don't treat this as fact.


This free Xbox 360™ update is great news! We've been listening to what the community has been telling us, so we're happy to announce that this update will improve your gaming experience.

Here are some of the changes in this update:

* Improvements to the Xbox Guide.

* Option to retain your saved games when you delete a profile.

* Increased accuracy of "last time played."

* Network configuration improvements for Xbox Live® members in the Netherlands.

* More detailed messaging for unreadable disk or region errors.

This free* update is available to all Xbox Live members. Your console will be updated the next time you sign in to Xbox Live.

Well, that's great news - for the Dutch!

copyed post at majornelson

Earlier today the team pushed out a dashboard update over Xbox Live. There is nothing major in this one, it just addresses a few performance and stability issues.

Just found this in one of the comments on Major Nelson, so don't treat this as fact.


Posted that one early this morning...The source information is from a January 2006 update...

Was "Dolby Digital with WMA Pro" there from the last few updates? I can't keep track. I hadn't noticed it before as I was searching for changes of this update.

Here is my info before:

D:2.0.4548.0 -
K:2.0.4548.0 (BK: 2.0.1888.0)
X:EA85-D4E0-BE18-C8C9

and then after:

D:2.0.4552.0 -
K:2.0.4552.0 (BK: 2.0.1888.0)
X:9D02-9DD2-031F-19B9

Was "Dolby Digital with WMA Pro" there from the last few updates? I can't keep track. I hadn't noticed it before as I was searching for changes of this update.

Yes, that was there before the update.

Which reminds me, what is WMA Pro and how do I find out if my receiver accepts it?

Doesn't look like it's fixed the "display shift to the right when using VGA" problem that was introduced in the last update. I'd keep my 360 hooked up via VGA if that problem was fixed. It's just so distracting in games.

Yes, that was there before the update.

Which reminds me, what is WMA Pro and how do I find out if my receiver accepts it?

I haven't been keeping up with this one but I've seen some Pioneer receivers and others with a WMA logo of some sort proclaiming WMA Pro support.

I haven't been keeping up with this one but I've seen some Pioneer receivers and others with a WMA logo of some sort proclaiming WMA Pro support.

Oh well, guess I'll do some digging on my own. Just bought the Onkyo HTS-790 and honestly I couldn't be happier. Maybe I should leave well-enough alone. I'm the obsessive type where if I find out my receiver doesn't support WMA-pro, I'm suddenly going to be less happy with the audio I previously would have traded my child for.

Edit: Oh WMA Pro is just proprietary audio file format designed by Microsoft to compete with the MP3 file format. You'd need WMA Pro just to hear special WMA files. It's a worthless feature for me, as I use the 360 exclusively for gaming (and possibly DVD viewing). All is well in Batman land again.

Edit: Oh WMA Pro is just proprietary audio file format designed by Microsoft to compete with the MP3 file format. You'd need WMA Pro just to hear special WMA files. It's a worthless feature for me, as I use the 360 exclusively for gaming (and possibly DVD viewing). All is well in Batman land again.

yeah my Pioneer 82 accepts it and I agree with you. It's a worthless feature.

Just bought the Onkyo HTS-790 and honestly I couldn't be happier. .


I just bought this as well...for the Sammy LCD 4696 and 360...beautiful thing, isn't it? Anything I should know once installed??? I use the Sound Option: Dolby Digital with 5.1

I just bought this as well...for the Sammy LCD 4696 and 360...beautiful thing, isn't it? Anything I should know once installed??? I use the Sound Option: Dolby Digital with 5.1

Nothing in particular. I bought 100' of 16 gauge speaker wire for the rear set of speakers because I have a big common area and the 30' wire included didn't reach - I needed 50' each. Just a heads up.

You have to teach the inputs to listen for the digital connection. I plugged in my 360 via optical cable (monoprice rules), so I clicked on Video 1 (that's what I chose the 360 to be) and then you have to hit the digital input button on the receiver to teach that input selection (Video 1) to listen to the optical input the 360 is coming through (Opt 1). My DVR is connected by optical cable, so I set Video 2 to correspond to Opt 2. My CD player is connected by coaxial digital, so I set the input CD to match up with "COAX". It explains how do to it (very simple) in the instruction manual under "setting up digital connection."

We're pretty far off topic here so if you want to know anything else, feel free to Private Message me. But all in all the system is very easy to set up and I'm very pleased with the sound. I loaded Oblivion once the system was set up and didn't even play it for an hour - I just listened to the title orchestral sequence over and over again.

I told my wife I loved it more than her and she wasn't sure if I was joking.

Looks like VSYNC is on for the dashboard. Now if only we could get the 360 to force VSYNC for games...Is this shorthand for video sync? Would this cure the video/audio lag problems associated with the hd dvd?

Is this shorthand for video sync? Would this cure the video/audio lag problems associated with the hd dvd?
I only see video defects like wavy lines on the Dashboard, not during games. Maybe they worked on that. I'll see if I notice any improvement later...

Wishing for 1080i over VGA!!!

Yeah, right.... :(

Does this mean 1080i over VGA is NOT supported? I am confused. I thought people are saying that it is supported?

Does this mean 1080i over VGA is NOT supported? I am confused. I thought people are saying that it is supported?

As far as I understand, only 1080p is supported. (As well as some other "traditional" computer video resolutions. None of them being interlaced.)

Is this shorthand for video sync? Would this cure the video/audio lag problems associated with the hd dvd?

VSYNC = Vertical Sync.

It forces complete screen draws. It helps avoid frames only partially drawn.

This is quite possibly my most favorite update ever....

No kidding, all of the dashboard stuff runs at least 5x faster than it did...no more waiting for it to populate lists or anything...

I, for one, am thankful that attention to the little details are catered to along with the biggies forthcoming.

Doesn't look like it's fixed the "display shift to the right when using VGA" problem that was introduced in the last update. I'd keep my 360 hooked up via VGA if that problem was fixed. It's just so distracting in games.

I have a Samsung DLP HLS6767. Used 2 previous updates (2006) and have no such problem. Game/DVD looks great over VGA.

I have a Samsung DLP HLS6767. Used 2 previous updates (2006) and have no such problem. Game/DVD looks great over VGA.Known issue with the HL-RXX67/W Samsung models. Later models let you adjust screen position, but not the one I have.

This is quite possibly my most favorite update ever....

No kidding, all of the dashboard stuff runs at least 5x faster than it did...no more waiting for it to populate lists or anything...

I, for one, am thankful that attention to the little details are catered to along with the biggies forthcoming.

Yeah, I've noticed the Live Arcade title list is even faster and seems more stable, i.e. less likely to crash the system (screen freeze with no red lights and nothing to do but cut the system off and back on again) populating achievments, showing friend achievements and what not. This really comes into play with 30+ titles.

I have an HLR-6167 and my connection looks fine (and is centered) over VGA. This is the first I've heard of this issue.

This is quite possibly my most favorite update ever....

I'd have to say it's my least favorite, since it's making my console freeze constantly. I'm surprised nobody else here is getting this. Tons of people posting about it at forums.xbox.com.

This update has fixed the 1920x1080 VGA sync issues affecting many Sony TVs.

The only model I can verify for sure (since I have it) is the KDL-40V2500 40" Bravia LCD.

It now looks awesome!

LOL. Did you try it before the update?

I'd have to say it's my least favorite, since it's making my console freeze constantly. I'm surprised nobody else here is getting this. Tons of people posting about it at forums.xbox.com.

Froze my console while playing RB6 demo...

Doesn't look like it's fixed the "display shift to the right when using VGA" problem that was introduced in the last update. I'd keep my 360 hooked up via VGA if that problem was fixed. It's just so distracting in games.

As a new VGA man I noticed this problem today!

Though it probably looks better the component with 10mins of tweaking....

This update has done something for HD-DVD playback and I don't think I am hearing things. The sound all around sounds much fuller and less constrained than before, the bass is also more robust. Anyone else experience this?

This update has done something for HD-DVD playback and I don't think I am hearing things. The sound all around sounds much fuller and less constrained than before, the bass is also more robust. Anyone else experience this?

The last update on 9th Jan 2007 has no audio patch.....so you shouldn't be hearing any audio improvement.

The last update on 9th Jan 2007 has no audio patch.....so you shouldn't be hearing any audio improvement.

Perhaps it was a sneaky fix.

Perhaps it was a sneaky fix.

Considering it is one of the most requested patch, I don't tink MS will be doing any tip toeing around this download :)

I don't have my add on anymore, so I couldn't verify it anyways. :)

I'd have to say it's my least favorite, since it's making my console freeze constantly. I'm surprised nobody else here is getting this. Tons of people posting about it at forums.xbox.com.


I was having the same problems, freeze, checker board sreen, blank screen, fuzy screens, this was with all games including arcade.

I called support and they had me go into the system blade, then into the memory and select devices ("Y"), then do "Xbutton, Xbutton, Leftbumper, Rightbumper, Xburtton Xbutton". Then a blade came up asking do you want to perform a maintence, select yes. it takes about a sec, then reboot. It worked for me. Note it will make you reload the game updates.

:mad: 1/12/2006, so much for fixes, I played during the day and no problems, then last night during my first game, she went bad again, then she died, 3 red lights. This will be the second time I send it back. All was well untill after these last updates.

I was having the same problems, freeze, checker board sreen, blank screen, fuzy screens, this was with all games including arcade.

I called support and they had me go into the system blade and select devices ("Y"), then do "Xbutton, Xbutton, Leftbumper, Rightbumper, Xburtton Xbutton". Then a blade came up asking do you want to perform a maintence, select yes. it takes about a sec, then reboot. It worked for me. Note it will make you reload the game updates.

Anyone else tried this hidden menu trick?

Yes, it works. The people I know use it if you have issues in some games like freezing or stuttering. It seems to clear it up because the cache or the updates may have corrupted over time.

Considering it is one of the most requested patch, I don't tink MS will be doing any tip toeing around this download :)

Maybe, but I still think something was in the update for HD-DVD playback. Perhaps those with the add-on drive could do some testing?

I was having the same problems, freeze, checker board sreen, blank screen, fuzy screens, this was with all games including arcade.

The checkerboard screen right when it freezes is what mine does. And it does it on all games, whether they're arcade, demo or DVD. I haven't had it freeze in the dash ever, but just about a minute or two into playing any game.

I tried clearing the cache and even running with the HDD disconnected, and it still keeps freezing. No red lights though. They want me to send it back, but I think I'll wait a few days and see if there's a patch for the update because I'm positive that's what caused this. I wish there was an option to revert to previous FW.

Maybe, but I still think something was in the update for HD-DVD playback. Perhaps those with the add-on drive could do some testing?What do you want me/us to try? I did the update and have been watching HD-DVD's for days. I don't notice anything different. I use my xbox360 almost exclusively for watch HD-DVD's with some DVD's if the HD isn't available.

This update has fixed the 1920x1080 VGA sync issues affecting many Sony TVs.

The only model I can verify for sure (since I have it) is the KDL-40V2500 40" Bravia LCD.

It now looks awesome!

Actually, I have noticed quite a bit of noise/fuzz when I get up close, so 1920x1080 over VGA still has some problems on my Sony set.

Does this mean 1080i over VGA is NOT supported? I am confused. I thought people are saying that it is supported?

VGA is inherently progressive.

Vga CAN carry a 1080i signal. I do it all the time from my computer.

What do you want me/us to try? I did the update and have been watching HD-DVD's for days. I don't notice anything different. I use my xbox360 almost exclusively for watch HD-DVD's with some DVD's if the HD isn't available.

What updates are needed for HD-DVD? Other than DTS support? Can't think of anything else we may need...

Doesn't look like it's fixed the "display shift to the right when using VGA" problem that was introduced in the last update. I'd keep my 360 hooked up via VGA if that problem was fixed. It's just so distracting in games.
I had the same problem with my Sammy HL-R5667. I was not able to re-center the image because I had my VGA (PC) input named "GAME". When I had it set up this way, my only picture options were 16:9 and 4:3.

All you have to do is change the name of the PC input to PC. Once you do this you have settings for Wide TV, Wide PC, 16:9 and 4:3. Setting it to Wide PC gives you more options for changing the size of the image as well as re-centering it. I was actually able to set my display so there is absolutely no overscan. Hope this helps you out!

What do you want me/us to try? I did the update and have been watching HD-DVD's for days. I don't notice anything different. I use my xbox360 almost exclusively for watch HD-DVD's with some DVD's if the HD isn't available.


Nothing since I guess I am the only one to experience this change in audio output. The only reason I posted something is because I was surprised no one else noticed.

I only see video defects like wavy lines on the Dashboard, not during games. Maybe they worked on that. I'll see if I notice any improvement later...

Can you ellaborate on the wavy lines you get on the dash? I've noticed that I now get the same 'rough gradient' on component that I used to only get on VGA.

Yeah I am also seeing the new dashboard noise with Component (not there with VGA) .

---- Jason

Yeah I am also seeing the new dashboard noise with Component (not there with VGA) .

---- Jason


I've always had it with VGA, just not before now with component. Wish they'd stop messing ! That's twice now they've taken a perfectly good image and made it worse.

This update has fixed the 1920x1080 VGA sync issues affecting many Sony TVs.

The only model I can verify for sure (since I have it) is the KDL-40V2500 40" Bravia LCD.

It now looks awesome!

Do you know if anybody has reported it working on the XBR2 sets? I would guess it is the same mechanism, so it should. Anybody know if 1920x1080 via VGA of the XBR2 set is full screen?

what do you mean fixes the VGA sync issues with Sony tvs? What was wrong with them in the first place. Can someone be specific to see if it is effecting my 40xbr2.

Well, just verified that 1920x1080 via VGA still doesn't work for the SXRD KDS-R60XBR2 TV at least... just tried it when i got home. Oh well...

The issue is with some TVs, the 1920x1080 setting will not display properly. In my case, it shows a small viewing area in the middle of the screen, only part of the XBox dashboard is showing, and the TV is reporting it as an invalid signal. Theory is that Microsoft is using some non-standard sync method for that mode... couple VGA to HDMI adapter companies say that it is M$ fault... not sure who to blame, just wish that it worked!

Check out this thread

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9474346#post9474346

with my 40xbr2 if I set the dashboard to 1920x1080 via VGA, it fits the whole screen. Does that mean mine is fine.

Yep... I would say that it is fine.

I was having the same problems, freeze, checker board sreen, blank screen, fuzy screens, this was with all games including arcade.

I called support and they had me go into the system blade, then into the memory and select devices ("Y"), then do "Xbutton, Xbutton, Leftbumper, Rightbumper, Xburtton Xbutton". Then a blade came up asking do you want to perform a maintence, select yes. it takes about a sec, then reboot. It worked for me. Note it will make you reload the game updates.

:mad: 1/12/2006, so much for fixes, I played during the day and no problems, then last night during my first game, she went bad again, then she died, 3 red lights. This will be the second time I send it back. All was well untill after these last updates.

I am receiving checkerboard and freezes as well. I thought I heard that when you go into memory and do the command listed above it messes up your original xbox saves, is this true? I am in the middle of Dreamfall and don't want to loose my save, but I can't even get into two minutes of the crackdown demo without if freezing.

i also have the kds-r50xbr1, i think its a problem with the tv itself. it can only do 1280x1024 via vga. it can only carry the 1080p signal via HDMI.