The HD Guru hates to burst everyones bubble, but when he saw the press release that stated the 63" Philips Plasma model 63PFP7422D was 1080p at $3500, he suspected the information was wrong (if it sounds too good to be true it probably isn't true).


Checking with a high level Philips executive, its been confirmed the 1080p model retails for $5999 not $3500

The one for $3500 is 1366 x 768.

Yeah, The HD Guru has seen CNET and other websites report the $3500 1080p 63" Plasma, however, they are all wrong. The HD Guru "fact checks" before reporting.

For "accurate" CES information go to

www.hdguru.com

The HD Guru

I hate you. :mad: LOL

I hate you. :mad: LOL
No, you hate The HDGuru.

Really sad it looked like a absolute price stunner even if its from Philips. Anyway big thx Guru for clearing that one out.

It is sad to hear this news, but where does this state that the Philips 63" is $5999?

Cree

The first post in this thread.

The HD Guru

The first post in this thread.

The HD Guru
I understand what you are saying, but I looked up and down on HDGuru and found nothing on your reporting...At least this type of information would be documented and corrected immediately.

Cree

Didn't Philips own website though have it for 3,500? I found their official press release that says the 63PFP7422D model (1080p) is going to be $3,500.

If Gary is right, that is a HUGE PR mistake.

here it is on the Philips website, I am sure they did not make this kind of mistake, it's been like this since the news came out at the show, they would have fixed it by now, http://www.ces.philips.com/product_detail.cfm?pageID=2&productID=41

The HD Guru hates to burst everyones bubble, but when he saw the press release that stated the 63" Philips Plasma model 63PFP7422D was 1080p at $3500, he suspected the information was wrong (if it sounds too good to be true it probably isn't true).


Checking with a high level Philips executive, its been confirmed the 1080p model retails for $5999 not $3500

The one for $3500 is 1366 x 768.

Yeah, The HD Guru has seen CNET and other websites report the $3500 1080p 63" Plasma, however, they are all wrong. The HD Guru "fact checks" before reporting.

For "accurate" CES information go to

www.hdguru.com

The HD GuruSo what's up with this?

Philips 63” FlatTV™ Display (http://www.press.ce.philips.com/apps/c_dir/e3379701.nsf/alle/169BF0769F2B8620C125725A004F5F39/$File/Philips.63%20inch.pdf) :confused:

Wow...what a bubble burster. :mad:

I guess Philips doesn't know what they're selling it for... :D

or perhaps someone had a few too many brewskies while watching NFL Football today. :p

by the way I went to the Gurus weblink that was posted, no news of the sort that is beign posted here.

The first post in this thread.

The HD Guruget off the coolaid, if you know what I mean.

Well, the Philips website says $3,500 and HDGuru says he saw a press release that says $5,999.

Clearly, there is a conflict and we can't know which is the 'right' answer as of today.

I did think that $3,500 for a 63" 1080 was super-cheap, maybe too cheap. On the other hand, given a 5-month wait and Philips ramped up production with LG, $5,999 isn't that much of a bargain.

I think the 63" 720p model, if it retails for the $3,599, is still a good deal relative to what Pioneer and Panny charge, unless they drop their non-1080p prices a lot in the next few months.

Well, the Philips website says $3,500 and HDGuru says he saw a press release that says $5,999.

Clearly, there is a conflict and we can't know which is the 'right' answer as of today.

I did think that $3,500 for a 63" 1080 was super-cheap, maybe too cheap. On the other hand, given a 5-month wait and Philips ramped up production with LG, $5,999 isn't that much of a bargain.

I think the 63" 720p model, if it retails for the $3,599, is still a good deal relative to what Pioneer and Panny charge, unless they drop their non-1080p prices a lot in the next few months.where exactly does the guru say this, I can not find anything of the sort.

where exactly does the guru say this, I can not find anything of the sort.

He says he saw a press release. Coulda been the paper with the typo.

He says he saw a press release. Coulda been the paper with the typo.when you say HE SAYS, where EXACTLY does he say it, unless you talked to him personaly.

when you say HE SAYS, where EXACTLY does he say it, unless you talked to him personaly.

Sorry, mistyped, he didn't see a PR, he spoke to high-ranking Philips execs. See his 1st post above.

Could still be wrong, though..... :o

so if the first post in this thread is actually by the Guru, why doesn't he post it on his website, I am sure it would be BIG news for many people, including myself, when he gets his FACTS straight and actually writes about it on his website, then I will believe him, reason is he has nothing to say about Philips whatsoever on his sight, only Panny, Pio and Samsung talk, makes you wonder.

6 grand for a 63 inch 1080p Philips seems too much in 5 months time. You can get the 65 inch 1080p Panny now for close to 7,000. That will surely come down in the next 5-6 months, so how can Philips compete at similar pricepoints and still be smaller in size and supposedly inferior quality. Doesn't make sense.

I am sure the CNET people and others would have contacted the right sources before writing their stories, CNET even has a video of the PDP in action, while the revier clearly states the MSRP of $3,500, and the same MSRP is STILL on Philips website, whoever this GURU bozo spoke to, apparently had NO clue.

I agree with everyone here!!! There is nothing that states that the retail price is $5999. Its funny that Gary mentioned this, but with no acutal statement showing what HDGuru website claims on the retail price. Even the PDF shows $3500. Well I think HDGuru may need to clear things up before jumping to conclusions.

Also if the price was a typo, wouldn't you think CNET would immediately correct this on their website before posting their findings/previews on the 63"er.

This will stand at $3500. I guarantee it!!!!

Cree

Gary! Here is the press release. This is stated on the Philips website:

"Philips 63” FlatTV™ Display
63” Plasma (63PFP7422D)

The big-screen experience is closer to home than ever before with the introduction of Philips’ 63” Plasma HDTV. Packing features that deliver a dynamic punch to the viewing experience, the grand 63PFP7422D offers stunning picture quality thanks to 1080p resolution and Pixel Plus™ 3 HD technology.

Philips’ 63PFP7422D will wow viewers with spectacular widescreen imagery and a high impact HD, 1080p picture. Perfect for showcasing 1080p Blu-ray™ discs, the next-generation format for home entertainment, the powerful FlatTV provides consumers with the movie theater experience in the comfort of their own home.

Adding to the image performance, the new 63PFP7422D utilizes Philips’ Pixel Plus 3 HD technology. Philips’ Pixel Plus 3 HD enhances content from already pristine sources such as HD signals and DVDs. Pixels of an incoming picture are altered to match surrounding pixels resulting in an image that is brilliant and natural. Skin tones are natural, colors pop and details become amazingly lifelike.

Lending a touch of elegance to this powerful performance, the 63” Plasma features a sophisticated design that will enhance the décor of any environment. For additional convenience, the FlatTV features a host of connectivity options including multiple HDMI and USB inputs. The USB inputs enable users to display images in slideshow format as well as play MP3 tracks through the FlatTVs sound system.

Set-up made simple
Ready to connect out of the box, users need not worry with a complicated set-up. Philips’ new Settings Assistant software is a simple, easy to follow guide that activates when the set is first turned on. Users are guided through six preferences, including contrast, sharpness and color saturation, where they optimize the picture settings to their personal preference. Customizing the picture is as simple as selecting which option A or B according to the consumers’ preference. This new application lets consumers enjoy their FlatTV display without a complex set-up.

The 63PFP7422D will be available in June with a suggested retail price of $3,499.


Philips 63” Plasma
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For further information please contact:

Philips
Lindsay Woods
770-821-2392
lindsay.woods@philips.com

Manning Selvage & Lee
Elizabeth Halter
404-870-6871
elizabeth.halter@mslpr.com

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FlatTV and Pixel Plus are trademarks of Koninklijke Philips Electronics N.V.
Blu-ray Disc (BD) is a registered trademark of the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA)."

Any comments on this!?!?!? I have no idea where you got your information from, but a press release is not intended to give us low expectations on new product releases.

Cree

I agree with everyone here!!! There is nothing that states that the retail price is $5999. Its funny that Gary mentioned this, but with no acutal statement showing what HDGuru website claims on the retail price. Even the PDF shows $3500. Well I think HDGuru may need to clear things up before jumping to conclusions.

Also if the price was a typo, wouldn't you think CNET would immediately correct this on their website before posting their findings/previews on the 63"er.

This will stand at $3500. I guarantee it!!!!

Cree

Sorry, but the Philips 63" plasma IS NOT $3500. It is a mistake. Get over it!

Sorry, but the Philips 63" plasma IS NOT $3500. It is a mistake. Get over it!

To boldface the second "b" needs a backslash in front of it. ;)

Sorry, but the Philips 63" plasma IS NOT $3500. It is a mistake. Get over it!
If it was a mistake then their would be immediate corrections. Don't tell me that you are going to lobby for the higher price? Also where did you get your pricing info from? So are you saying that the Philips press release is complete lie!?!!

Cree

To boldface the second "b" needs a backslash in front of it. ;)

I did the 2nd time but my set up is not correct. But back to the TV, how can they sell a 63" 1080p for $3500 when the lowest 1080p plasma is a 50" 50PF9UK Panny at $4600? If this price is correct then how could Panasonic justify selling their new consumer 50" 1080p at at least $1500 more? We are talking 13" not 2".

I did the 2nd time but my set up is not correct. But back to the TV, how can they sell a 63" 1080p for $3500 when the lowest 1080p plasma is a 50" 50PF9UK Panny at $4600? If this price is correct then how could Panasonic justify selling their new consumer 50" 1080p at at least $1500 more? We are talking 13" not 2".

Well, if they do, I want to see the reaction and actions of all the Philips bashers.

I did the 2nd time but my set up is not correct. But back to the TV, how can they sell a 63" 1080p for $3500 when the lowest 1080p plasma is a 50" 50PF9UK Panny at $4600? If this price is correct then how could Panasonic justify selling their new consumer 50" 1080p at at least $1500 more? We are talking 13" not 2".well, that's Pannies problem then.

I did the 2nd time but my set up is not correct. But back to the TV, how can they sell a 63" 1080p for $3500 when the lowest 1080p plasma is a 50" 50PF9UK Panny at $4600? If this price is correct then how could Panasonic justify selling their new consumer 50" 1080p at at least $1500 more? We are talking 13" not 2".
Well its called accepting low margins. Panny, Pioneer, etc...are companies looking to profit as much as they can by increasing their margins. We as consumers are accepted to the way of thinking based on price. If the price is higher it is automatically a better product. But as technology gets better and better year-by-year price will become mute/minute. It will become soley based on features and technology implementation.

Cree

"I am sure the CNET people and others would have contacted the right sources before writing their stories, CNET even has a video of the PDP in action, while the revier clearly states the MSRP of $3,500, and the same MSRP is STILL on Philips website, whoever this GURU bozo spoke to, apparently had NO clue."

Cybertec, the fact that you don't even know who Gary Merson is reveals who the real bozo is in this thread. Before you start calling people names like some punk please find out who you are talking about. And then show some respect. Gary Merson has supplied the forum with plenty of useful industry information for a long time.

Still how can the official press release contain an incorrect price!? That sounds just crazy to me.

I agree....screw the bozo it's $3500!!

"I am sure the CNET people and others would have contacted the right sources before writing their stories, CNET even has a video of the PDP in action, while the revier clearly states the MSRP of $3,500, and the same MSRP is STILL on Philips website, whoever this GURU bozo spoke to, apparently had NO clue."

Cybertec, the fact that you don't even know who Gary Merson is reveals who the real bozo is in this thread. Before you start calling people names like some punk please find out who you are talking about. And then show some respect. Gary Merson has supplied the forum with plenty of useful industry information for a long time.when someone posts nonsense without facts, they are in my book a BOZO, you know , that clown in the circus.

I emailed Lindsay Woods at Philips regarding this matter, will be waiting for a response, and hopefully this confusion will be all cleared up.

when someone posts nonsense without facts, they are in my book a BOZO, you know , that clown in the circus.

I don't think Bozo The Clown was in any circus. Wasn't he in "Wonderama" ??? :D

I don't think Bozo The Clown was in any circus. Wasn't he in "Wonderama" ??? :Dyou could be right in that one,you see I just posted info without checking the facts, a Bozo I am:) my mistake:)

Anybody who refers to themselves in the third person IS a bozo. Period.


ron

Anybody who refers to themselves in the third person IS a bozo. Period.


ronthanks for the compliment Ron, by the way, no one asked for your opinion, and another thing, I did not start this ridiculous thread, Gary did, without any facts to back up his post, now go back under that rock you crawled out from.

thanks for the compliment Ron, by the way, no one asked for your opinion, and another thing, I did not start this ridiculous thread, Gary did, without any facts to back up his post, now go back under that rock you crawled out from.Did you even read my post? Do you even have the slightest clue what "referring to oneself in the third person" means? Apparently not :rolleyes:. I was talking about "the hd guru" bub. You seem to have a bit of an anger management problem there friend. I suggest you try a little harder to keep it in check and refrain from attacking people when you have no idea what's going on....



ron

41 & counting comments and still no definite answer?

What a wasted thread...

I guess I'll check back when all the name calling stops and the facts show up.

6 grand seems too much for that 63inch 1080p. I could get a kick butt Pioneer 6070 right now for about 5 grand. It's not 1080p but so what. With prices falling big time and pressure from Vizio and others, I think the $3,500 price can be realistic in 6 months time.

Well I think Gary may have gotten mixed up with the information with HDGuru on the current 63" Ambilight Plasma @ $5999. This is not an Ambilight version. The fact is this 63" 1080p Philips will be $3500.

Cree

Sorry, but the Philips 63" plasma IS NOT $3500. It is a mistake. Get over it!Well, if this is a mistake it's taking Philips a long time to correct it:

Philips CES 2007 63” Plasma Model: 63PFP7422D Price: $ 3,499 Availablity: June 2007 (http://www.ces.philips.com/product_detail.cfm?pageID=2&productID=41)

Well, if this is a mistake it's taking Philips a long time to correct it:

Philips CES 2007 63” Plasma Model: 63PFP7422D Price: $ 3,499 Availablity: June 2007 (http://www.ces.philips.com/product_detail.cfm?pageID=2&productID=41)
Yeah I am tired of fighting this topic on the price. You are exactly right! The price will stand at $3499. You watch! Again Gary, just mentioned the wrong model number or the current Philips Ambilight Cineos 63" 63PF9631D37. Now this is $5999.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=CNQ10EBUXUMQDKC4D3MFAHA?skuId=8186081&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050005&id=1164155954294

Cree

Yeah I am tired of fighting this topic on the price. You are exactly right! The price will stand at $3499. You watch! Again Gary, just mentioned the wrong model number or the current Philips Ambilight Cineos 63" 63PF9631D37. Now this is $5999.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=CNQ10EBUXUMQDKC4D3MFAHA?skuId=8186081&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050005&id=1164155954294

CreeI don't know... the price seems too good to be true... but who are we to believe; Philips, or someone posting in the AVS Forum? :confused:

BB... right... like that's a credible/accurate source. :rolleyes:

BB... right... like that's a credible/accurate source. :rolleyes:

I don't get it. :confused:

Why would Best Buy have an incorrect amount on something they are currently selling? Is this something they are known for?

Well, if this is a mistake it's taking Philips a long time to correct it:
Philips CES 2007 63” Plasma Model: 63PFP7422D Price: $ 3,499 Availablity: June 2007 (http://www.ces.philips.com/product_detail.cfm?pageID=2&productID=41)

We should all call Philips sales and ask if we can reserve our sets NOW and put a $250 deposit on that model at that price.

Who's with me ??? :D

We should all call Philips sales and ask if we can reserve our sets NOW and put a $250 deposit on that model at that price.

Who's with me ??? :D
I won't have that big of a problem. My storefront will be up and going within the next month and a half, but I will not be selling Plasma, LCD, or Projectors. Only Flat-Panel Mounts for now, but I will have access to all brands of TV's...

Cree

Hmmm....I don't know : although $3.500 m.s.r.p. for a 63" plasma with a native resolution of 1920x1080p is something that could be described as hardly believable in early '07 considering that Panasonic is selling their 60" model for a m.s.r.p. of $8.000 (or is it $10.000 ?), it could very well be that Philips decided to shake-up the plasma market by offering such bargain expecting to make up for lost revenue by rapidly increasing sales in that particular segment of the market.
Also, let's not forget that Philips teamed up with LG a couple of years ago and combined their manufacturing and R&D in LCD/plasma technology; One of the results of such combination would be economy of scale, such that now both brands could be offering a plasma display of such size, resolution and price... Although, even at a m.s.r.p. of $6.000 and an expected street price that would be consideraby less, I'd still call it a bargain, these days !

Someone, other than me :D , should follow up with one of these folks to get the details:

For further information please contact:

Philips
Lindsay Woods
770-821-2392
lindsay.woods@philips.com

Manning Selvage & Lee
Elizabeth Halter
404-870-6871
elizabeth.halter@mslpr.com

Someone, other than me :D , should follow up with one of these folks to get the details:

For further information please contact:

Philips
Lindsay Woods
770-821-2392
lindsay.woods@philips.com

Manning Selvage & Lee
Elizabeth Halter
404-870-6871
elizabeth.halter@mslpr.com

If Lindsay replies, I will post her response.....

Doug

41 & counting comments and still no definite answer?

What a wasted thread...

I guess I'll check back when all the name calling stops and the facts show up.

+ Infinity. I should bill these "bozo's" for wasting my time :-)

If Lindsay replies, I will post her response.....

Doug I contacted her a couple of days ago regarding this matter, I am still waiting for a reponse, will let you guys know when I receive it.

Pricing aside - how does Phillips have access to this 1080p Samsung glass before even Samsung themselves? Has there been any word at all about a 1080p 63" display from Samsung?

I really don't understand why so many of you are reacting so childishly to this news. Gary Merson aka. " The HD Guru", is only reporting what he was told by a Philips exec. no more, no less. We would all love for their to be a 63" 1080p plasma coming out in June for $3,500 or $3,900, however like Gary says if it sounds too good to be true........

So he contacts a Philips executive who tells him the information currently circulating is false, and you all act like he kidnapped your first born.

All I'm saying is that it is very very odd for a major electronics company to have a typo out that long publicly without correcting it. Imagine how bad this is for business.

If the price is wrong, who is going to buy that Philips plasma? Consumers' expectations went through the roof and now they are going to be crushed. Their "perception" of a great value is gone totally. No one will buy it because they will perceive they are being ripped off now.

I'm curious to hear how Philips reacts to this.

All I'm saying is that it is very very odd for a major electronics company to have a typo out that long publicly without correcting it. Imagine how bad this is for business.

If the price is wrong, who is going to buy that Philips plasma? Consumers' expectations went through the roof and now they are going to be crushed. Their "perception" of a great value is gone totally. No one will buy it because they will perceive they are being ripped off now.

I'm curious to hear how Philips reacts to this.This may be the case... but until a correction is made, think of all the buzz Philips has generated. ;)

Got the following response to my e-mail from Lindsay, she responded to my first inquiry in 2 hours, that is impressive....

I do apologize, we had published some incorrect information by accident.

There were two 63 inch plasmas in our booth - the 768 ( on the market now) and the 1080p available next year.

The 63PFP7422D which is the 1080p model for nest year was listed with this year's model's price of 3,499. The correct price of the 1080p model (63PFP7422D) is $5,499.

I apologize for the inconvenience this oversight may have caused.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Best Regards,

Lindsay C. Woods
Philips Consumer Electronics
64 Perimeter Center East
Atlanta, GA 31146
770-821-2392
(f) 770-821-2555
lindsay.woods@philips.com
Best Regards,

Lindsay C. Woods
Philips Consumer Electronics
64 Perimeter Center East
Atlanta, GA 31146
770-821-2392
(f) 770-821-2555
lindsay.woods@philips.com

Got the following response to my e-mail from Lindsay, she responded to my first inquiry in 2 hours, that is impressive....

[B]I do apologize, we had published some incorrect information by accident.

There were two 63 inch plasmas in our booth - the 768 ( on the market now) and the 1080p available next year.

The 63PFP7422D which is the 1080p model for nest year was listed with this year's model's price of 3,499. The correct price of the 1080p model (63PFP7422D) is $5,499.

I apologize for the inconvenience this oversight may have caused.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Best Regards,

Lindsay C. Woods
Philips Consumer ElectronicsOh well, I wasn't going to buy one anyway... someone might want to tell the "rocket scientists" who work at Philips to fix their web page. :rolleyes:

Somebody owes Gary Merson an apology....

Sheeesh.

Somebody owes Gary Merson an apology....

Sheeesh.Hmm... maybe Philips! :p

Hmm... maybe Philips! :p

LOL!

Somebody owes Gary Merson an apology....

Sheeesh.

She apologized to me, that is like George being mad that Elaine stole his thank you for the "Big Salad"

LOL

She apologized to me, that is like George being mad that Elaine stole his thank you for the "Big Salad"

LOLGeorge should have received credit for getting Elaine a "BIG Salad," and I think heads should roll at Philips. :D

I am happy the prices have been corrected. Heck ,I was orginnally told the 1080p model was $5999. Lindsay told me this morning the 1080p model is $5499. No apologies necessary, just keep visiting my website :)

I have posted the right correct prices and more Philips product news.

www.hdguru.com

The Hd Guru

Checking with a high level Philips executive, its been confirmed the 1080p model retails for $5999 not $3500

"Yeah, The HD Guru has seen CNET and other websites report the $3500 1080p 63" Plasma, however, they are all wrong. The HD Guru "fact checks" before reporting."

and

I am happy the prices have been corrected. Heck ,I was orginnally told the 1080p model was $5999. Lindsay told me this morning the 1080p model is $5499. No apologies necessary

Or maybe they are? First you accuse others of not doing their work though they were simply mislead by Philips the same way you were.

Anyway, thanks for adding an element of fun into such sad news about final Philips plasma price (and of course thanks to bringing us that sad news) :)

$5499 is still less than the $5995 Panasonic charges for the 50" TH-50PF9UK and much less than the $8000, $9999, $10995 MSRPs for the 50" Pioneer PRO-FHD1, 65" Panasonic TH-65PX600 and 65" Panasonic TH-65PF9UK respecitively. So clearly something will have to give soon in the area of 1080p plasma pricing.

This is a real_good_thing for the consumer. :)

Gary,
I owe you a big appology. Thanks for the correction.

Cree

I still don't have a problem with an MSRP 0f $5499 for a 63" 1080p plasma. That's a fantastic price when compared to what else is available. I'd buy one in a second if it performs well.

There is still seems to be an issue with Philips press release and the reply that Lindsay Woods sent to Dreilly1:

What does she mean by:

"There were two 63 inch plasmas in our booth - the 768 ( on the market now) and the 1080p available next year.

The 63PFP7422D which is the 1080p model for nest year was listed with this year's model's price of 3,499. The correct price of the 1080p model (63PFP7422D) is $5,499."

Will this TV be available this year in 2007 or next year on '08???

EDIT:
I see Gary says available June (I'd have to assume this year) on his site:
"Philips broke the big screen plasma 1080p price barrier with its 63” 63PFP7422D panel available in June at just $5499. This panel has been widely reported to cost $3500, due to an incorrect press release. The Philips PR department today confirmed the new panel is priced at $5499. Philips will carry over its 2006 63” 768p plasma, model 63PF9631D at $3500."

Good news indeed!!!!

habe

There is nothing good about realizing the TV you were eyeballing just went up by 2,000 bucks.

No way am I buying that TV now. Philips created expectations that can't be met, so now their sales will have to suffer.

The pricepoints on these plasmas are still ripoffs. They are using that "1080p" marketing tool to keep this stuff jacked up in prices. Hopefully Vizio will put more pressure on them. Til then, I'm going to wait it out.

brbr1

I wasn't misled by Philips, they quoted me $5999 at CES and now say the price is $5499. As I stated in the first post, it was hard to believe the press release considering the closest set on the market retails for $10,000.

www.hdguru.com

The HD Guru

[QUOTE=paolomaldini]There is nothing good about realizing the TV you were eyeballing just went up by 2,000 bucks.

No way am I buying that TV now. Philips created expectations that can't be met, so now their sales will have to suffer.

The pricepoints on these plasmas are still ripoffs. They are using that "1080p" marketing tool to keep this stuff jacked up in prices. Hopefully Vizio will put more pressure on them. Til then, I'm going to wait it out.

comon they made a mistake. maybe someone in the pr/website department gets fired but geez it does happen.

if the new philips 63" 1080P plasma is $5500 then they are leading the way just like vizio is with their $3K 60" 768 just announced. and IF their 63pf9631d will be lowered to $3500 MSRP they are keeping up with vizio that way too. considering strteet pricing it looks to be a good year for the larger plasma buyers

Look at it this way... if the pre-release MSRP for the 63PFP7422D is $5499... the post-release street price will be closer to $3499. ;)

Somebody owes Gary Merson an apology....

Sheeesh.At least we didn't see Gary posting that "Somebody owes the HD Guru an apology" ;)


ron

Garys mistake was not posting these facts on his site first, but comming here with information, not found anywhere else on the web, and still Philips has not changed their MSRP on this PDP of $3,499, what gives, I really don't know, looks like Gary should be working for Philips, cause their PR department is seriously lacking.

Garys mistake was not posting these facts on his site first, but comming here with information....snip....

Mistake?

Do you know how many more hits this site gets compared to his site?

Gary may be off by $500 in this case, but coming here first was certainly not a mistake. ;)

Oy vey...3 pages to get a MSRP. :p
By all means, shoot the messenger. That always helps. :p

Not that i need an apology but when i made a post signifying that Philips made a mistake when this first came out i was battered and bruised by people. But i'm ok now knowing once again i was right.

damn entertaining thread :D

now would you buy the phillips 63 1080p at 5499 or a pio 6070 768 that can be found for the same or less?

Back to the Pioneer forum and their new 1080 panels.

Back to the Pioneer forum and their new 1080 panels.You mean the ones going for $10,000 :eek: be my guest. :p

I hope everyone is aware that these new plasma 1080p panels will most likely suffer a 50% hit in black level performance (top brands). :eek:

She apologized to me, that is like George being mad that Elaine stole his thank you for the "Big Salad" LOL

SERENITY NOW !!!!! :D

Look at it this way... if the pre-release MSRP for the 63PFP7422D is $5499... the post-release street price will be closer to $3499. ;)

It will be there sometime in 2008, probably.

It will be there sometime in 2008, probably.Supposedly, Panasonic will be coming out with interactive PDPs next year too.

The End.

SERENITY NOW !!!!! :D

INSANITY LATER!!!!

lol

INSANITY LATER!!!!
lol

The next time Philips comes out with a Press Release and it's wrong, just say....Hoochie-Mama !!!!

I hope everyone is aware that these new plasma 1080p panels will most likely suffer a 50% hit in black level performance (top brands). :eek:


Why?

Supposedly, Panasonic will be coming out with interactive PDPs next year too.

What the heck is an interactive TV? What will it do for me? (I'm skeptical that I'll care about a TV being "interactive", but I'm willing to be convinced. So convince me.)

I hope everyone is aware that these new plasma 1080p panels will most likely suffer a 50% hit in black level performance (top brands). :eek: Why?While Elemental1's assertions are somewhat exaggerated... as the pixel density increases the size of individual pixels will decrease from 480p --> 720p --> 1080p form factors... therefore, the contrast ratio decreases because the smaller the pixel (a.k.a. dot pitch) the less light it is capable of generating.What the heck is an interactive TV? What will it do for me? (I'm skeptical that I'll care about a TV being "interactive", but I'm willing to be convinced. So convince me.)Panasonic And Comcast To Join Forces To Test Interactive Digital Cable-Ready Televison Interactive Television to Integrate Open Cable Application Platform (OCAP) and Offer More Choice for Consumers to Enjoy HD, VOD and Other Advanced Home Entertainment Services (http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prModelDetail?storeId=11301&catalogId=13251&itemId=104590&modelNo=Content01072007024440900&surfModel=Content01072007024440900)

just showed up this week. any takers? i will have to do some research. i am only 8ft away so probably not a good choice for me.

just showed up this week. any takers? i will have to do some research. i am only 8ft away so probably not a good choice for me.
Costco online has this but it is the 720P. This is the one you probably mean.

just waiting for the TV i will be happy with 3 years from now that has easy config and hardly any upkeep or maintenance.

website says

HDTV Compatibility: 1280 x 720p - 3Fh, 1920 x 1080i

will probably have hd cable, and blueray dvd.

i have read different things about needed distance for screen sizes. couch is 8ft away so i might be safe with this.

anyone have one of these? is it noisey? are speakers acceptable? don't wanna wake the neighbors hehe.