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edvedder
01-14-07, 11:48 PM
Is everyone just buying universal films that interest them on hd and everything else on Bluray? That is what i am doing. I have 3 (batman, superman 1 and 2) warner titles and 1 paramount title (MI3) in hd-dvd but i got those before i had my blu ray player. All my other duel format purchases- the unforgiven, Superman returns, the searchers, world trade center- have been on blu ray and i plan to keep it that way from now on. Just curious what others are doing

beatboy77
01-14-07, 11:53 PM
Is everyone just buying universal films that interest them on hd and everything else on Bluray? That is what i am doing. I have 3 (batman, superman 1 and 2) warner titles and 1 paramount title (MI3) in hd-dvd but i got those before i had my blu ray player. All my other duel format purchases- the unforgiven, Superman returns, the searchers, world trade center- have been on blu ray and i plan to keep it that way from now on. Just curious what others are doing

You are doing exactly what I am doing. I buy everything on Blu-ray and if Universal comes out with a movie I can't live without, I get it on HD-DVD. It looks like Universal may be going neutral sooner then I thought though. I predict they will be neutral or releasing on TotalHD discs by the winter of 2007.

~Josh

edvedder
01-14-07, 11:57 PM
You are doing exactly what I am doing. I buy everything on Blu-ray and if Universal comes out with a movie I can't live without, I get it on HD-DVD. It looks like Universal may be going neutral sooner then I thought though. I predict they will be neutral or releasing on TotalHD discs by the winter of 2007.

~Josh


If and when that happens do u think it will be a long while before they re release the titles that are already out now for HD-dvd (on the blu ray format that is)? Warner is doing blu ray now but we still dont have Batman begins or Smallville season 5. I really want smallville but i have been holding out in hopes that warner puts it out in blu ray.

beatboy77
01-15-07, 12:07 AM
If and when that happens do u think it will be a long while before they re release the titles that are already out now for HD-dvd (on the blu ray format that is)? Warner is doing blu ray now but we still dont have Batman begins or Smallville season 5. I really want smallville but i have been holding out in hopes that warner puts it out in blu ray.

My prediction would be that from the date they decide to go neutral/TotalHD they would then release everything on both formats or TotalHD and then re-release all of their HD-DVD titles on Blu-ray/TotalHD and do it quickly.

Also, do not worry about WB putting out Smallville. They will do it soon enough. Once of their president's said all of their current HD-DVD releases will be available on Blu-ray shortly.

~Josh

MidnightWatcher
01-15-07, 12:12 AM
You are doing exactly what I am doing. I buy everything on Blu-ray and if Universal comes out with a movie I can't live without, I get it on HD-DVD. It looks like Universal may be going neutral sooner then I thought though. I predict they will be neutral or releasing on TotalHD discs by the winter of 2007.

~Josh
There is no need whatsoever for Universal to go neutral. Universal was the keynote speaker for HD DVD at this year's CES if I remember correctly, and 6 new CE companies just joined the HD DVD camp. I honestly don't think they will ever support Blu-ray.

beatboy77
01-15-07, 12:13 AM
There is no need whatsoever for Universal to go neutral. Universal was the keynote speaker for HD DVD at this year's CES if I remember correctly, and I honestly don't think they will ever support Blu-ray.

There is too much money to be lost by not going to Blu-ray. Universal's stockholders will demand it. It would be bad business not to.

~Josh

MidnightWatcher
01-15-07, 12:16 AM
There is too much money to be lost by not going to Blu-ray. Universal's stockholders will demand it. It would be bad business not to.

~Josh
I think that Fox and Disney will release on HD DVD way before Universal would ever consider supporting Blu-ray. By then, there would not be any real incentive for Universal to go neutral with mass adoption of HD DVD.

phansson
01-15-07, 12:18 AM
I pretty much buy Blu Ray whenever possible. I have two blu ray players and only one HD DVD player.

If there is something on HD DVD that I really want, I will pick it up. That is the reason having both formats is nice. Don't have to miss anything.

beatboy77
01-15-07, 12:22 AM
I think that Fox and Disney will release on HD DVD way before Universal would ever consider supporting Blu-ray. By then, there would not be any real incentive for Universal to go neutral with mass adoption of HD DVD.

Since HD-DVD has been hacked and movies downloaded, no way will Fox and Disney go neutral. They are more firmly in Blu-ray's corner now, more then ever.

~Josh

xradman
01-15-07, 12:23 AM
I'm doing exactly the opposite. I'm only picking up Blu-ray when there is no HD DVD alternative. Even though, I have both HD DVD and Blu-ray, I still think HD DVD will become the main stream format for HD content, with Blu-ray being reserved for premium content much like 2 disc SE DVDs are today.

MidnightWatcher
01-15-07, 12:24 AM
Since HD-DVD has been hacked and movies downloaded, no way will Fox and Disney go neutral. They are more firmly in Blu-ray's corner now, more then ever.

~Josh
New keys for titles, software players will be updated, AACS was designed for this. We'll be seeing a number of Blu-ray movies released into the wild shortly, PowerDVD/WinDVD compromises the keys of Blu-ray as well, Muslix64 confirmed it.

I'm doing exactly the opposite. I'm only picking up Blu-ray when there is no HD DVD alternative. Even though, I have both HD DVD and Blu-ray, I still think HD DVD will become the main stream format for HD content, with Blu-ray being reserved for premium content much like 2 disc SE DVDs are today.
This seems to be what more dual format owners are doing overall.

JosephShaw
01-15-07, 12:28 AM
I think that Fox and Disney will release on HD DVD way before Universal would ever consider supporting Blu-ray. By then, there would not be any real incentive for Universal to go neutral with mass adoption of HD DVD.

I think this year will determine where studios move or don't move for 2008. It's still too early to call it one way or the other, but I think BD is going to come out on top.

I've supported both platforms for a while now, and I'm losing interest in the HD-DVD side. I bought HD-DVD for Serenity, King Kong, and a couple of other Universal pictures titles, as well as the discs that Warner hasn't released on BD, including my imported copy of Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. But that was 2006. In 2007, I'm looking at buying nearly exclusive BD versions of films.

Wendell R. Breland
01-15-07, 12:39 AM
I think that Fox and Disney will release on HD DVD way before Universal would ever consider supporting Blu-ray.You need to do a little searching on the recent CES. I will help you start, checkout the title announcement by Fox and Disney for BD. Then checkout the title announcement by Universal for HD DVD. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

MidnightWatcher
01-15-07, 12:55 AM
You need to do a little searching on the recent CES. I will help you start, checkout the title announcement by Fox and Disney for BD. Then checkout the title announcement by Universal for HD DVD. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Universal was the keynote speaker for HD DVD and announced that there would be 300 additional HD DVD titles in 2007, including anime titles from Bandai (and not to mention the titles that adult studios announced recently). Unlike Blu-ray, the HD DVD camp also announced new CE companies joining their side (Shinco-Venturer, Alco, Lite-On -- their parent companies produce a tremendous number of DVD players worldwide, not necessarily under those name brands but under many others, including many Japanese CE companies), Onkyo, Meridian, Alpine, a new Microsoft/Broadcom HD DVD solution, more interactivity, triple-layer 51GB HD DVDs in the future (current players need only be updated via firmware), a 1080P HD DVD player by Toshiba at MSRP $599. Even LG, which was firmly in the Blu-ray camp, announced support for HD DVD with their dual format player.

The only thing that Blu-ray did was announce titles and pronounce themselves the winner. That was it. They had nothing else. The BDA can no longer claim they have the only real 1080p players. They can no longer claim that they will always offer superior storage (aside from their 200GB pipe dream). They can no longer claim that HD DVD has no CE backers. I could go on, but I won't. You get the point.

jedimastergrant
01-15-07, 01:07 AM
I am buying dual format titles on HD dvd and BD titles only when they are exclusives because the HD dvd versions are usually superior in PQ. But I am really enjoying my BD player (ps3) and I like how fast it is compared to my painfully slow xa1.

phansson
01-15-07, 01:15 AM
Boy you must be on the company kool aid tonight.

51GB HD DVDs in the future (current players need only be updated via firmware),
Pure speculation. Where is the proof in that.

a 1080P HD DVD player by Toshiba at MSRP $599.
And the PS3 is a 1080p player for $500


Even LG, which was firmly in the Blu-ray camp, announced support for HD DVD with their dual format player.

And the HD DVD camp is going to try and stop that player in its tracks because it is touted as a Blu Ray player that plays HD DVD's. Also it doesn't conform to HD DVD specs (inHD). In fact aren't they trying to stop it all ready?

I could go on, but I won't. You get the point.
Yes your points are so.......pointless.

evenodds
01-15-07, 01:15 AM
I am really enjoying my BD player (ps3) and I like how fast it is compared to my painfully slow xa1.

Yeah, my XA2 seems very slow compared to my PS3.

GizmoDVD
01-15-07, 01:20 AM
Universal was the keynote speaker for HD DVD and announced that there would be 300 additional HD DVD titles in 2007, including anime titles from Bandai (and not to mention the titles that adult studios announced recently). Unlike Blu-ray, the HD DVD camp also announced new CE companies joining their side (Shinco-Venturer, Alco, Lite-On -- their parent companies produce a tremendous number of DVD players worldwide, not necessarily under those name brands but under many others, including many Japanese CE companies), Onkyo, Meridian, Alpine, a new Microsoft/Broadcom HD DVD solution, more interactivity, triple-layer 51GB HD DVDs in the future (current players need only be updated via firmware), a 1080P HD DVD player by Toshiba at MSRP $599. Even LG, which was firmly in the Blu-ray camp, announced support for HD DVD with their dual format player.

The only thing that Blu-ray did was announce titles and pronounce themselves the winner. That was it. They had nothing else. The BDA can no longer claim they have the only real 1080p players. They can no longer claim that they will always offer superior storage (aside from their 200GB pipe dream). They can no longer claim that HD DVD has no CE backers. I could go on, but I won't. You get the point.

Very good points.

Taha24
01-15-07, 01:22 AM
lol, the 200 GB is a pipe dream...but the 51 GB HD DVD is not? LMAO!

Wendell R. Breland
01-15-07, 01:23 AM
You said:
I think that Fox and Disney will release on HD DVD way before Universal would ever consider supporting Blu-ray.

I said:
You need to do a little searching on the recent CES. I will help you start, checkout the title announcement by Fox and Disney for BD. Then checkout the title announcement by Universal for HD DVD.

Then you reply with a post that did not address TITLE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

BTBuck1
01-15-07, 01:25 AM
I never really had the intention of buying HDDVD, but with some great deals I was swayed into it, got to enjoy some great content early on...but am now having buyers remorse for the format. CES has really got me thinking that an announcement from Universal will be very very soon. I have 33 HDDVD's currently and all but eight of my movies are Universal. Coincidence? NoOoo. If something is on both formats, but is a combo disc on HDDVD then I save an easy $5 by buying the Blu-Ray version. Also, I prefer the faster performance and reliability of the ps3 & bdp-1000. I have a couple paramount titles on HDDVD, one I got free with the A1 and the other was on special for $14.99 at Fry's. The Warner titles I bought on HDDVD were also either on sale at Fry's or still haven't been anounces for BD IE, Batman & V for vendetta.

Going forward I will only Buy Universal title on HDDVD. The day Universal makes an announcement to go format nuetral, the whole HDDVD collection goes up on Ebay (if not sooner).

AZHTGeek
01-15-07, 01:25 AM
Coming from a IT background I can tell you hackers get Bored/Inspired like a light switch... When they say Blu-Ray is next (most likely due to all of the BD+ discussion) they mean Blu-Ray is next. I bet it is hacked within the next week, latest would be the end of the month.

Spektricide
01-15-07, 01:25 AM
I think that Fox and Disney will release on HD DVD way before Universal would ever consider supporting Blu-ray. By then, there would not be any real incentive for Universal to go neutral with mass adoption of HD DVD.

I think that Universal will release on Blu-ray way before Fox/Disney would ever consider supporting HD-DVD. By then, there would not be any real incentive for Fox/Disney to go neutral with mass adoption of Blu-ray.

AZHTGeek
01-15-07, 01:32 AM
I think that Universal will release on Blu-ray way before Fox/Disney would ever consider supporting HD-DVD. By then, there would not be any real incentive for Fox/Disney to go neutral with mass adoption of Blu-ray.

I would bet all 3 stay exactly where they at for at least the next year. With too much invested and too many units on both sides in Users Homes this war will never end. My guess is dual format players will be the peace treaty of this war.

BTBuck1
01-15-07, 01:34 AM
There is way more pointing to Universal going potentially nuetral than the other.
Namely Universals lack of any announcement at CES.

AZHTGeek
01-15-07, 01:42 AM
Something happened between Sony and Universal some time ago that didn't go very well. I will have to dig up a link but I think the chances for Universal going Neutral are as about as good as Microsoft joining the founding members of the BDA.

Duh can't believe I forgot about this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._v._Universal_City_Studios

Wendell R. Breland
01-15-07, 01:47 AM
Unlike Blu-ray, the HD DVD camp also announced new CE companies joining their sideThat is understandable, BDA already has most of the CE companies in their camp. There is no new ones to add :D. Sharp did announce their player. H-P announced their Blu-ray enabled PC. Their were more, do a search!!

The BDA can no longer claim they have the only real 1080p players.Yes they can. I will assume you mean 1920 x 1080/60/P for the Toshiba HD DVD player. Some Blu-ray players have what really counts (for film based source) and that is 1920 x 1080/24 (23.98)/P.

Others have refuted your other comments.

RCA seems to be MIA for the HD DVD group, why did you not mention that?

The bottom line is: Content is King, has been, most likely will continue to be!!!!

MidnightWatcher
01-15-07, 02:00 AM
Then you reply with a post that did not address TITLE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
Remember, CES is the Consumer Electronics Show. It showcases hardware and announcements. Where were all of the new hardware announcements for Blu-ray? If you want titles, how about The Matrix trilogy, all of the Harry Potter movies, Oceans 11, Oceans 12, the Battlestar Galactica series (I've even read rumblings of a Battlestar Galactica movie being planned), the Star Trek series, The Bourne Identity, LOTR, Ghost In The Shell, The Departed, The Good Shepherd, Flags of Our Fathers, Blade Runner, Face/Off etc... I believe Conan The Barbarian is coming on 1/30....

Yes they can. I will assume you mean 1920 x 1080/60/P for the Toshiba HD DVD player. Some Blu-ray players have what really counts (for film based source) and that is 1920 x 1080/24 (23.98)/P.
THe HD-XA2 will support that with a firmware update by the end of February if I remember correctly. I already have it now with my HTPC.

RCA seems to be MIA for the HD DVD group, why did you not mention that?
It was a rebadged Toshiba unit. What you need to really note is that they did not go with BD, especially since their parent company Thompson is a BD founder. Hmmm.

Pure speculation. Where is the proof in that.
Well considering that drives in first generation HD DVD players could already read triple layer (http://www.cloetens.be/indeling/hd_dvd.pdf) 45GB discs, there would be no issue in updating the firmware to read a slightly more packed layer that went from 15GB to 17GB. Do you honest think they would bother doing this if it meant that none of the current players would work? The DVD Forum is smarter than that.

And the PS3 is a 1080p player for $500
I was referring to stand alone players, but if you want to use that argument then I got a 1080p player in the form of the XBox 360 HD DVD add-on for my HTPC for only $175 - $30 for King Kong HD DVD which works out to about $145.

And the HD DVD camp is going to try and stop that player in its tracks because it is touted as a Blu Ray player that plays HD DVD's. Also it doesn't conform to HD DVD specs (inHD). In fact aren't they trying to stop it all ready?
The point was that here is a company that was exclusively BD and they felt the need to incorporate HD DVD into their player. All other BD exclusive players are taking notice.

the 200 GB is a pipe dream...but the 51 GB HD DVD is not?
Let's see by Christmas 2007 which one proves to be a pipe dream. Though improving, Sony has trouble as it is getting dual layer BD50 out in sufficient quantities, let alone an 8 layer disc.

JosephShaw
01-15-07, 02:49 AM
RCA seems to be MIA for the HD DVD group, why did you not mention that?


From the HD-DVD forum, it appears that Thompson just sold off the RCA name to Audiovox for $50M (http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=196701483)

edfowler
01-15-07, 06:32 AM
Probably what I like most about my HD player is that I now have a good smooth player for my HD .ts movies.

I now enjoy LOTR, XMEN, The Matrix, Gladiator etc. in HD DVD goodness. I will move to Blu Ray probably when the Pioneer Elite is available for a decent price so I can get the more current movies in HD as they are released.

Cars and the like in HD piques my interest for sure.

AaronSCH
01-15-07, 09:05 AM
Any discs released on both formats will be judged on a case by case basis. However, I will probably become much more discriminating about my purchases. When I acquired my HD-A1, I snatched up everything released. But now with access to Blu-ray software and the likelihood of hundreds of new releases over the next year, I will be forced to pick and choose much more carefully. I do have to say that after watching my first four Blu-ray titles on the PS3, I still prefer the overall PQ of HD DVD. Don't get me wrong, the PS3 produces a stunning image, however, many of my HD DVDs have that three-dimensional punch that seems to be lacking on what I have viewed so far on Blu-ray. Currently own 116 HD DVD titles and 9 Blu-ray titles.

sj41
01-15-07, 02:34 PM
Personally I buy BluRay exclusive studio releases on BD (duh) same with HD-DVD and their exclusive studio releases. As for neutral releases such as Warner, it seems the earlier releases HD DVD has better audio tracks (Training Day, Phantom of the Opera). Although that might change in the future, I usually get whichever has the better PQ/AQ. Having said that, I could care less whoever becomes the winner, just wish cost of standalone players would drop soon.

Wendell R. Breland
01-15-07, 03:34 PM
If you want titlesDo you have a reading problem? Where are the exclusive (Universal) titles for HD DVD?

THe HD-XA2 will support that with a firmware update by the end of February if I remember correctly.Link please

I already have it now with my HTPC.Not native, if it is available it is done from IVTC. Your monitor does not accept 1920 x 1080/24 (23.98)/P so you receive no benefit from it.

Well considering that drives in first generation HD DVD players could already read triple layer (http://www.cloetens.be/indeling/hd_dvd.pdf) 45GB discs, there would be no issue in updating the firmware to read a slightly more packed layer that went from 15GB to 17GB. Do you honest think they would bother doing this if it meant that none of the current players would work? The DVD Forum is smarter than that.TL working with 1st G (2nd G could be in this group as well) players has been refuted by, guess who, a Toshiba engineer. It will take special electronics to read the very weak signal from the 3rd layer. It is the price you pay for a thicker protective layer. Do a search.

I do not beleive for a minute that my BD player will read the BD quad layers.

All other BD exclusive players are taking notice.Link please

The constant negative postings in the BD forums confirms the belief by many that you and many other HD DVD (ONLY) supporters are very worried about their format of choice. For the record I have not made a single post in the HD DVD forums. I do not have a HD DVD player therefore I do not feel qualified to post is those areas. I am a professional audio/video tech person with of 38 years of experience.

MidnightWatcher
01-15-07, 04:51 PM
Do you have a reading problem? Where are the exclusive (Universal) titles for HD DVD?
Some exclusive Universal titles were listed. I'm sure you read them.

Link please
Here you go (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9437536&&#post9437536).

Not native, if it is available it is done from IVTC. Your monitor does not accept 1920 x 1080/24 (23.98)/P so you receive no benefit from it.
Correct, but I do have the option to use it if I have a display capable of it.

TL working with 1st G (2nd G could be in this group as well) players has been refuted by, guess who, a Toshiba engineer. It will take special electronics to read the very weak signal from the 3rd layer. It is the price you pay for a thicker protective layer. Do a search.
The engineer is not permitted to reveal future features prior to an official press release from Toshiba. You should know this.

I do not beleive for a minute that my BD player will read the BD quad layers.
Nor do I.

Link please
Common sense. If LG were to release a very good Blu-ray/HD DVD combo unit there would be immense pressure for other CE companies to do the same. Otherwise, there is little incentive to go with a Blu-ray only player when a combo unit could be purchased for nearly the same price.

The constant negative postings in the BD forums confirms the belief by many that you and many other HD DVD (ONLY) supporters are very worried about their format of choice.
No worries here. Just trying to shine some light on the 'dark side'. :)

I do not have a HD DVD player therefore I do not feel qualified to post is those areas. I am a professional audio/video tech person with of 38 years of experience.
Then experience should also tell you what happened with Sony's Betamax could very well happen to them again.

At any rate, this is my last post in the Blu-ray forums for awhile. There's little that interests me here, so I agree I should keep most of my activity to the HD DVD areas. Ciao!

koblenza
01-15-07, 04:59 PM
my default is hd-dvd, 100%.
for me, it's the other way around...i buy everything on hd-dvd, and only purchase bd for the movies i can't live without.

krinkle
01-15-07, 05:29 PM
At any rate, this is my last post in the Blu-ray forums for awhile. There's little that interests me here, so I agree I should keep most of my activity to the HD DVD areas. Ciao!


DID I JUST READ THAT CORRECTLY?? OMG, YES!!!!


This guy has posted more in the Blu-ray forum than almost all Blu-ray owners put together and has been a constant annoyance here.

I give him a day or two tops before he just can't help himself from puking all over the blu-ray forum again. :rolleyes:

Spektricide
01-15-07, 07:36 PM
I was referring to stand alone players, but if you want to use that argument then I got a 1080p player in the form of the XBox 360 HD DVD add-on for my HTPC for only $175 - $30 for King Kong HD DVD which works out to about $145.

If you have to plug your player into something else other than your TV. It isn't a standalone. The PS3, while having the added functionality of playing games, can still be plugged straight into the TV and thus deserves the "standalone" moniker. The HD-DVD addon cannot be plugged directly into a TV and thus is not a standalone television player. However, it could be classified as a standalone computer player. But in regards to the actual format war, to assume many people actually have a HTPC is ludicrous.

enchntr
01-15-07, 07:43 PM
Now that I own a PS3 for my BD Player, I'll still pick up movies on HD DVD even if there is a BD alternative. Heck, I'll even pick up imports if they have a better picture, etc (Total Recall comes to mind).

*BUT* I am now pretty much not going to buy a movie until all the reviews are in, and may actually start renting to get an idea how the PQ/AQ is.

:)

ChrisW6ATV
01-15-07, 10:47 PM
Is everyone just buying universal films that interest them on hd and everything else on Bluray?
No, so far I have done the opposite-only bought Blu-ray versions of exclusive titles. The main reason is that so far, anything I wanted that was available in both formats was equal or better on HD DVD, and I was more used to buying those from before owning my Blu-ray player. If a title is released with PCM and VC-1 or AVC on Blu-ray, but only in DD+ on HD DVD, I would buy the BD version. Or, if there was a price difference, but so far there has been none.

evenodds
01-16-07, 01:09 AM
My support lies with Blu-ray but I'll still buy the exclusive HD DVD titles that interest me.

Wendell R. Breland
01-16-07, 02:04 AM
Some exclusive Universal titles were listed. I'm sure you read them.Yes, they have announced 5 titles 2007. Currently there are 164 exclusive BD titles and 64 exclusive HD DVD titles. Not bad for a launch that started just 2 months for BD (and yes I am well aware of the Samsung and a few titles before this time).


Here you go (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9437536&&#post9437536). That is so :D :D :D, you can not be serious. If they were going to make such an announcement they missed a great opportunity at CES.


The engineer is not permitted to reveal future features prior to an official press release from Toshiba. You should know this.He was talking about current models. The necessary electronics is in the machine or it is not. According to the Toshiba engineer it is not included.


Common sense. If LG were to release a very good Blu-ray/HD DVD combo unit there would be immense pressure for other CE companies to do the same. From the info released it is a basic Blu-ray player and just plays HD DVD with no features. All for only $1200.


No worries here. Just trying to shine some light on the 'dark side'. :)You need to check your light temperature, from what I see it is about 100°K.


Then experience should also tell you what happened with Sony's Betamax could very well happen to them again.Let me tell you about Betamax, it was the first with a front load cassette and had true hi-fi sound (Beta Hi-Fi) and was very popular in many countries other than the US. Its shortcoming was the tape length. The Beta cassette lives on, you are not aware of it but a good portion of video you watch (SD & HD) comes to you via a Beta machine. As in Sony’s Betacam®, Betacam SR®, Digital Betacam®, HDCam® and HDCam SR®.


At any rate, this is my last post in the Blu-ray forums for awhile.Thank you very much!!!

giantchicken
01-16-07, 02:46 AM
If titles are available on both formats, I buy the HD DVD. I wouldn't want to go without the TruHD on Superman Returns or the IME commentary on M:I:III. Other Blu-ray titles have had regular Dolby Digital to HD DVD's Dolby Digital Plus. However, if in the future the Blu-ray versions offer something that the HD DVDs don't, I could see myself switching. But right now I don't want to miss out on anything by buying the Blu-ray with fewer/less impressive features.

But with Warner going exclusively "purple" later this year, the only time this will be an issue is with Paramount titles. Most of the time, I won't have to choose sides.

Juan Nieto
01-16-07, 03:14 AM
I had HD-A1 2 times,now an HD-XA1 and for curiosity a PS3,i really liked the PS3 it delivers on everything it promised and no doubt is here to stay,BUT...I love HD-DVD, sharper ,affordable, cleaner,on my DLP I noticed antlike unstable grain on blu ray,that HD-DVD does not have ,but my Rha rhas are for HD-DVD.

Ryguy
01-16-07, 10:08 AM
BluRay/HDDVD exclusives are a no-brainer. But movies released on both, I plan to evaluate which one is better by reading on here and on highdefdigest. If both copies are the same, then it will come down to whichever one is cheaper :)

Evangelo2
01-16-07, 10:13 AM
I'm doing exactly the opposite. I'm only picking up Blu-ray when there is no HD DVD alternative. Even though, I have both HD DVD and Blu-ray, I still think HD DVD will become the main stream format for HD content, with Blu-ray being reserved for premium content much like 2 disc SE DVDs are today.

Im doing the same thing as xradman. More often than not the HD DVD version has some extra feature and if they are the same price Im taking the free features (e.g. Dolby True HD sound). I also am still staying with what has historically had more consistent PQ (HD DVD).
-Evangelo2

ctakim
01-16-07, 10:29 AM
First choice: HD DVD for my Toshiba HD-A1
Second choice: Blu-ray for my PS3

My decision may change in the future, but for now, I don't sweat about the format war. It is nice to be neutral.

Tolstoi
01-16-07, 10:48 AM
For the titles that are released in both formats, I most of the time pick the HD DVD version because they includes more features and better audio (Warners or example provide TrueHD on some title but none on Blu-Ray). Furthermore, in average the HD DVD version is cheaper.

As a result, I own about 10 BRs and 70 HD DVDs. That may changes when studio will increase the usage of 50 Gb BR disks but for now HD DVD is what I am buying mostly.

eliocon
01-16-07, 10:53 AM
I have a PS3 and an A1. Right now the plan is to buy the film in the format that best exploits the capabilities of the players I have. Since my receiver doesn't have an HDMI input I'm limited to purchasing movies with advanced audio codecs (i.e. Dolby TrueHD) in HD DVD. If the PS3 ever gets an audio upgrade whereby I can output 5.1 or 7.1 analog out via the AV output then I may change my plan. I think both formats are, at their best, awesome and I have equal admiration for the PQ and AQ of both.

inca
01-16-07, 11:05 AM
Well apparently if its on HD-DVD and BD, then I will get it for HD if it has the better sound, but I probably won't be able to tell a difference. Other then that its just what ever floats my boat.

HorrorScope
01-16-07, 11:42 AM
There is too much money to be lost by not going to Blu-ray. Universal's stockholders will demand it. It would be bad business not to.

~Josh

I call mirror on that one to the other side of this equation. That was good though, I get it!

AUWingsFan
01-16-07, 12:46 PM
Is everyone just buying universal films that interest them on hd and everything else on Bluray? That is what i am doing. I have 3 (batman, superman 1 and 2) warner titles and 1 paramount title (MI3) in hd-dvd but i got those before i had my blu ray player. All my other duel format purchases- the unforgiven, Superman returns, the searchers, world trade center- have been on blu ray and i plan to keep it that way from now on. Just curious what others are doing

Since I just got a PS3 most recently I've been buying up more of the Blu-ray releases, but I honestly plan to buy whichever format has the movie I want either exclusively or first....(for example how Warner hasn't released some films of their on Blu-ray yet, I own, or plan to get them soon....ex: Batman Begins and V for Vendetta).....

Having said that, I'm also on the lookout for whichever version is cheaper, so if a movie I want is on both and costs more on HD-DVD due to a combo, then I get the blu-ray and vice versa. I'm just glad I have both formats now so I don't have to wait awhile to see which one caves first if either ever does.......

Ian_Currie
01-16-07, 01:13 PM
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What he said.

chap
01-16-07, 02:35 PM
I'm doing it the other way around. I'll buy everything on HD-DVD and pickup anything fox, sohy, or disney related on blu-ray.

though I'll probably rent more often then buy anyway.

Ktulu_1
01-16-07, 02:42 PM
I'm only picking up Blu-ray when there is no HD DVD alternative. Even though, I have both HD DVD and Blu-ray, I still think HD DVD will become the main stream format for HD content...


Ditto

hammer99
01-16-07, 02:43 PM
Other than Sopranos (for the lossless PCM), all the non-exclusive titles I've bought are on HD-DVD. Right now I'm leaning towards starting to buy them in Blu if Universal doesn't start releasing more titles.

Special FX_45
01-16-07, 02:57 PM
DID I JUST READ THAT CORRECTLY?? OMG, YES!!!!


This guy has posted more in the Blu-ray forum than almost all Blu-ray owners put together and has been a constant annoyance here.

I give him a day or two tops before he just can't help himself from puking all over the blu-ray forum again. :rolleyes:

No ****. I've only been on this forum for 2 weeks and Midnight Watcher is getting on my nerves quite a bit. It seems that every post that I see from him is a BD bash. I am format neutral, but all he is doing is giving HD-DVD a bad name here. He has to be the biggest HD-DVD dickrider of all time. He definitely comes off as a big prick. Maybe that's not his intention, but that's the vibe I am getting from the majority of his posts. GROW THE "F" UP MAN!!!

CorruptedDragon
01-16-07, 03:05 PM
Well, typically what i do for movies that come out on both formats, i first check the reviews to see which offers the better video and/or extras. Then i check the price. If a movie is identical on both formats, i go for whichever is cheapest. Like Lady in the Water, i bought for Blu-Ray since it wasnt a combo and was $5 cheaper everywhere i went. Although i do own more HD-dvd than BluRay ( 27 to 12) i pretty much purchase the same amount now each week. Maybe one or two for each format.

acave_uk
01-16-07, 03:38 PM
I only buy titles that are exlusive to blu ray. What I found very interesting was that when I had a lot of D-VHS tapes I never watch 80% of them before I sold them. So I do prefer Universal films over Fox.

xombi
01-16-07, 04:30 PM
Since I just got a PS3 most recently I've been buying up more of the Blu-ray releases, but I honestly plan to buy whichever format has the movie I want either exclusively or first....(for example how Warner hasn't released some films of their on Blu-ray yet, I own, or plan to get them soon....ex: Batman Begins and V for Vendetta).....

Having said that, I'm also on the lookout for whichever version is cheaper, so if a movie I want is on both and costs more on HD-DVD due to a combo, then I get the blu-ray and vice versa. I'm just glad I have both formats now so I don't have to wait awhile to see which one caves first if either ever does.......


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what he said.

jdawg131
01-16-07, 04:33 PM
I only buy titles that are exlusive to blu ray. What I found very interesting was that when I had a lot of D-VHS tapes I never watch 80% of them before I sold them. So I do prefer Universal films over Fox.

I personally don't care a whole lot for Universal; too much eye candy like Sony movies. My two favorite studios, by far and away, are Fox and WB. With WB and Paramount releases, I will go HD DVD. They provide DD+ or True HD, while the Blu-Ray releases get stuck with plain ol' DD or dts. So, I will mainly be buying the exclusives for my PS3.

LAGOSIAN
01-16-07, 04:35 PM
Well, I had my HD-A1 first so I got to experience the PQ of HD DVD before I even bought my Sammy. Upon buying my Sammy, it took BR quite a while to come close to HD DVD's PQ so I initially bought HD DVD movies while waiting patiently for the BDA to get their act together.

I buy everything that is released on both formats on HD DVD. I only buy BR exclusive movies on BR.

nharmon91
01-16-07, 04:55 PM
There is too much money to be lost by not going to Blu-ray. Universal's stockholders will demand it. It would be bad business not to.

~Josh
Yeah but what about vice versa, arent the BD camps losing money from not selling on HD DVD even if it has less a market or they think its doomed.

Ian_Currie
01-16-07, 05:12 PM
I've been going by price as well. If it's a combo on HD-DVD, I'll take the Blu-ray thank you.

All I know is I can't afford Fox titles. :-(

cnikirk
01-16-07, 09:33 PM
I only buy BD when I have to. Although they have some good looking titles HD DVD has been very consistent and is my preferred format.

sb1
01-16-07, 09:57 PM
I only buy BD when I have to. Although they have some good looking titles HD DVD has been very consistent and is my preferred format.
My feelings, as well. Content is important, but when you are buying something on a new format specifically designed for improved picture quality, you want the best you can find. I don't care which format does it, I just want it to look good.

edvedder
01-17-07, 02:26 AM
I've been going by price as well. If it's a combo on HD-DVD, I'll take the Blu-ray thank you.

All I know is I can't afford Fox titles. :-(


lol i have been avoiding most of these as well. Was able to get good deals on KOH, Speed, Fantastic four, Xmen 3 and ice age from price matches. But i will never pay 34.99 for their other tittes (transporter 1 and 2, rocky, enemy of the state, Behind enemy lines i am talking about you). What the hell is fox thinking anyway, how do they expect to make money when most people cannot justify spending nearly 40bucks with tax for a movie