That is impressive.

I wonder if one of the two sets of numbers switches it to PAL and another Region 2. Yeah really we need to find a Region Free setting to make it worthwhile, switching between EEPROM numbers a lot could/would be risky.

What European R2 DVD did you try? And what country was it from? I'll be able to say if it's PAL, obviously it's likely but a handful in Europe are NTSC. Just to be ultra sure.

That is impressive.

I wonder if one of the two sets of numbers switches it to PAL and another Region 2. Yeah really we need to find a Region Free setting to make it worthwhile, switching between EEPROM numbers a lot could/would be risky.

What European R2 DVD did you try? And what country was it from? I'll be able to say if it's PAL, obviously it's likely but a handful in Europe are NTSC. Just to be ultra sure.
Yep, it's PAL. It was Andrei Tarkovsky's "Mirror" (transfer by Artificial Eye, bought from Amazon UK). My video processor reports 576p/50Hz input and the 576i/p settings are visible in the Setup menu of the player.

Thanks Csundbom. That is great to hear.

Great work Guys! I wish I had some different regions to try out also.

so now we know the first two bytes are the player location
and Byte 4 is the region code lock numebers:

US=0 0
AU=8 D
EU=8 2
MR=???? ( this is what we need!)

Maybe the 8 is pal and the second number the region?
D= AU ?
2= EU ?
0=US ?

now I wonder what would hapen if we lave the first two bytes alone and only change byte 4?


Athanasios

It's been confirmed the BH200 exhibits the same numbers and EEPROM menu when using the hack:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13740378#post13740378

Now here's the BIG test:

1. Switch to the UK setting which enables PAL - csundbom: Did you just change just the first two digits (44 45) or all of them? - 44 45 00 82 00 05 00 40
2. Use the files here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1010650

To set the BH100 to Region Free. It's certainly worth trying. You never know the BH200 SD DVD MR hack may even work on the BH100 too.

If you're having trouble getting the BH200 SD DVD MR hack to work, read this:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13503009&postcount=84

It needs to read on the CD:

RMTM0000\Scarlet\kpjc19_1.dvd

Instead of kpjc19_1.dvd on the Root of the CD.

A picture of the menu you should see is here: http://www.gsmstore.com.br/BH200%20unlocking%20001.jpg

I bet one of those numbers enable Region 2 and another PAL but this way we won't need to mess around working out which.

csundbom: Did you just change just the first two digits (44 45) or all of them?
I changed bytes 1, 2 and 4 (all the bytes that differed).

I changed bytes 1, 2 and 4 (all the bytes that differed).
Thanks.

Output can be configured to 576p/50Hz or 1080p/24Hz. In Region 1 mode, it enabled 480p/59.95Hz and 1080/23.98Hz.
Are you saying when in R2/PAL mode it was PAL OR NTSC, not both?

Are you able to try setting it to R2/PAL mode again and playing a Region 0 NTSC DVD? If you have to choose between NTSC OR PAL then a Region 0/Free setting wouldn't be much use.

I did some more testing. It seems like byte 4 is controlling region. Bytes 1 and 2 doesn't seem to affect behavior. I changed byte 4 to 02, and now I can play both region 1 and region 2 DVDs. Region 1 outputs 1080i/59.95 and region 2 outputs 1080i/50.00, so that's good.

You need to reboot the player after changing to a DVD from a different region; there is some boot-up logic that decides which framerate to use.

This is my EEPROM: 55 53 00 02 00 05 00 40

In this setting, the 480i/p settings are removed from the setup menu and replaced with 576i/p settings. However, I still managed get the player to output 480p by booting it with a region 1 DVD.

Not sure how Bluray playback is affected by these settings. I don't have any non-US BD.

I doubt these settings alter the BD Region code. I bet that is held elsewhere.

So to confirm, with it set to 55 53 00 02 00 05 00 40, you can now play? -

1. Region 1 SD DVDs
2. Region 2 SD DVDs
3. NTSC SD DVDs
4. PAL SD DVDs

And don't have to alter it again, once set?

If so that's excellent. Thanks again.

You need to reboot the player after changing to a DVD from a different region; there is some boot-up logic that decides which framerate to use.
I presume you mean, put it into standby and turn it on again? If so that wouldn't bother me at all.

Sorry for asking possibly obvious questions. I like to be sure.

In this setting, the 480i/p settings are removed from the setup menu and replaced with 576i/p settings.
I guess that's because it's now in "PAL Mode". That wouldn't bother me either. You'd want to be using: 720p, 1080i or 1080p anyway.

Yes, that's confirmed on my player. It would be good if someone else could do the same test to confirm what happens with a non-US player. Standby/power-on is what I mean by "reboot".

Thanks Csundbom. That's excellent.

It's also been confirmed, this works on the BH200 too:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13742415#post13742415

But the results are slightly different. I bet if someone were to test the BH200 SD DVD MR Hack I mention above it would also work on the BH100.

It's been confirmed the BH200 exhibits the same numbers and EEPROM menu when using the hack:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13740378#post13740378

Now here's the BIG test:

1. Switch to the UK setting which enables PAL - csundbom: Did you just change just the first two digits (44 45) or all of them? - 44 45 00 82 00 05 00 40
2. Use the files here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1010650

To set the BH100 to Region Free. It's certainly worth trying. You never know the BH200 SD DVD MR hack may even work on the BH100 too.

If you're having trouble getting the BH200 SD DVD MR hack to work, read this:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13503009&postcount=84

It needs to read on the CD:

RMTM0000\Scarlet\kpjc19_1.dvd

Instead of kpjc19_1.dvd on the Root of the CD.

A picture of the menu you should see is here: http://www.gsmstore.com.br/BH200%20unlocking%20001.jpg

I bet one of those numbers enable Region 2 and another PAL but this way we won't need to mess around working out which.

Not sure if we could use the same procedure for the BH100 as here you say burn to CD when the BH100 doesn't not recognize CD format, maybe this could be burned to DVD instead?

Athanasios

Oh yeah, good point :D

It's worth a try using a DVD-RW or DVD+RW. The worst that will happen is: nothing will happen. I only mention it as the BH200 SD DVD MR Hack provides a nice, user friendly menu, but doesn't touch PAL/NTSC.

It's possible to burn a DVD using the same format as a CD (i.e - ISO 9660) so it should work, in that respect anyway.

Download the ZIP file and burn it to a DVD using the instructions in the second link, in my post above. You've not lost anything by burning the file to a DVD-RW or DVD+RW and seeing if the BH100 recognises it. The BH200 recognises the BH100 EEPROM menu, so it may work the other way.

Looking all this over and was thinking about the AU code regarding byte 4:

If we change the AU 4th byte to 82 then it might play the AU region and the EU.
Then if you change it to 80 then it should play AU and US.
could this be correct? 0 is usually the code for all regions so i wonder what's up with this setup?

Athanasios

Hey, I just wanted to send a bit of thanks and encouragement from the BH200 crowd. I haven't yet hooked mine up (sadly, it's sitting in a box until my interviews for a new job are done next week), but I'm thrilled to hear how the work on region free and PAL playback is going. Keep up the investigations! Thanks a ton, your work is appreciated.

Hi Guys, great work on the testing/updates. I've been interstate so I haven't been near my player.

When I get back I'll change the byte codes on my AUS player and let you know the results.

Again great work guys

A big thanks Camds for bringing it to our attention in the first place. We'd be no where without your help.

Any BH100 owners try viewing Alien vs. Predator 2? We can't get anything other than the trailers to play. Another Fox disc. We have the March firmware....

Any BH100 owners try viewing Alien vs. Predator 2? We can't get anything other than the trailers to play. Another Fox disc. We have the March firmware....
Yep no problem hear playing Alien vs Predator Requiem Blu-Ray on my AU
BH100, I dont have the latest firmware on that player. 70503B is the firmware that I am running....

I did some more testing. It seems like byte 4 is controlling region. Bytes 1 and 2 doesn't seem to affect behavior. I changed byte 4 to 02, and now I can play both region 1 and region 2 DVDs.

This is my EEPROM: 55 53 00 02 00 05 00 40
So it seems changing the fourth digit to 02 enables PAL support and makes it Multiregion. Whereas setting the fourth digit to 82 (UK model) or 8D (Aussie model) enables PAL support but sets it to Region 2 (82) or Region 4 (8D).

On a USA Model:

Region 1/No PAL (Default USA setting): 55 53 00 00 00 05 00 40

Region 2/PAL: 55 53 00 82 00 05 00 40
Region 4/PAL: 55 53 00 8D 00 05 00 40
Region Free/PAL: 55 53 00 02 00 05 00 40

Default UK and Aussie values:

Region 2/PAL (Default UK setting): 44 45 00 82 00 05 00 40
Region 4/PAL (Default Aussie setting): 41 55 00 8D 00 05 00 40

So I wonder if the first two bytes are the BD region codeing since no one has tested a BD yet.Or did i miss some one trying it?

Athanasios

I'm afraid it isn't:

The UK (Europe) and Australia are both Region B but you can see above the default values are different in the UK and Australia. I've just updated my post directly above, as I typed it out wrongly before. I guess it's worth trying to change the first two sets from: 55 53 to 44 45 (UK) or 41 55 (Aussie).

Also:

Does anyone actually have any Region B (or C) locked discs? I only know of Fox (obvisously) & EIV in the UK, and Concorde in Germany who use Region B on all their discs. Most UK discs are otherwise Region Free.

Does this player bitstream audio for True HD? i am considering buying this player and currently have a samsung bd-p1400. Thanks.

Doesn't it bitstream TrueHD but 2 Channel only? And DTS-HD HR/MA is Just the Core, right?

So I wonder if the first two bytes are the BD region codeing since no one has tested a BD yet.Or did i miss some one trying it?

Athanasios

The first two bytes seem to just spell out the location in ASCII: US, AU or DE (I suppose Germany stands in for the EU?).

On the BH200 at least changing the first two bytes does nothing for BD region-coding. I've got a few Region B-locked discs inc The Simpsons Movie and Master & Commander, both from Fox. More Region A-locked titles, that's for sure.

I suppose Germany stands in for the EU?I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear "IYoung's" UK BH100 originated from Germany, many UK CE kit first comes into Germany.

Does the BH100/BH200 have a removable power cable? If so they'll just change the power cable when shipping it to UK/Ireland. I guess it's just a generic location so the BH100/BH200 knows where it's from.

Are any dates stored in either model? If so maybe changing it from USA to DE will switch the date format from the North American MM-DD-YY to the European DD-MM-YY date format. If it has no obvious clock, it could have an internal one.

I wonder what byes 6-8 do? Seeing as those are static across the USA, UK and Aussie models we probably don't want to go changing those.

For those who're interested you can see the ASCII codes here:

http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian/misc/ascii_table.htm

Thank You All who have seemed to tackle this issue. I have a US model and haven't been able to watch the UK release of Jimi Hendrix yet. I will try that 02 code on #4 slot this weekend and will report what happened. Thanks again, I'll try it this sat or sun.
:eek::D:cool:

Hi Guys, finally got home and tried some of that EEPROM editing:

My player is from Mexico, this is my EEPROM: 4D 58 01 00 00 05 00 40

Hope this helps.

Just for the record the BH100 does not support 480i over hdmi.

I'm sure it does not support it in the options list. But Lumagen has shown us that some devices will send 480i if the EDID tells the source that is all it accepts. Has anyone tried setting the Lumagen up with a memory block that only accepts 480i to see if the player will do it?

Hi Guys, finally got home and tried some of that EEPROM editing:

My player is from Mexico, this is my EEPROM: 4D 58 01 00 00 05 00 40

Hope this helps.

4D 58 = "MX" :)

Hi Guys, finally got home and tried some of that EEPROM editing:

My player is from Mexico, this is my EEPROM: 4D 58 01 00 00 05 00 40

Hope this helps.


Ok now we need to figure out the third byte the mexico one is 01.

hmmmm?


Athanasios

Hi Guys, finally got home and tried some of that EEPROM editing:

My player is from Mexico, this is my EEPROM: 4D 58 01 00 00 05 00 40
Thanks for this.

Ok now we need to figure out the third byte the mexico one is 01.
Good point. I bet it doesn't mean anything really important though.

Mexico is also Region A BD and seeing as the USA/Canada models are set to 00 I would guess it's not related to BD region coding. We already know how to enable PAL and enable SD DVD MR, what's left?

p.s - You could always set yours to 01 and see what changes, if anything ;)

First: I have a european version of the LGBH100. You might be right about the BD region coding, BUT what I've observed: I've changed the EEPROM from 44 45 00 82 00 05 00 40 to 44 45 00 80 00 05 00 40 and the system summary shows DVD region: 2 (originally 2), BD region: A (originally B). The player is not tested yet against BD region 1 playback, so I really do not know, if it actually works. Unfortunately the DVD playback's been affected (check the disc message). HDDVD playback's fine, Blu-Ray region free is fine as well. The big question is: will really play region 1 BDs? This I'll have to find out. As soon as I know I will post a tread. Second (minor to me) question is: is possible not to get simultaneously multi region DVD and BD?
regards to all of you.
r.

I presume your BH100 is from the UK? As 44 45 is DE and 82 we've established is used in the UK:

I see you've changed the fourth set of numbers from 82 to 80. What made you change it to 80? I don't think that number has been brought up before.

I must say I'm confused as it was established the fourth set handles NTSC/PAL and SD DVD MR meaning:

00 - USA/Canadian default + NTSC Only + SD DVD Region 1
82 - UK default + PAL & NTSC + SD DVD Region 2
8D - Aussie default + PAL & NTSC + SD DVD Region 4
02 - User guessed + PAL & NTSC + SD DVD Region Free

With it set to 80 it seems to give -

* BD Region A
* SD DVD Region 2
* PAL & NTSC - I'm presuming NTSC is still supported?

You say 80 makes it Region A (from Region B) that is indeed interesting. It sounds like you maybe on to something as you can still playback Region Free BDs.

Further questions sorry :D -

* What Region B BD did you try? Are you sure it's Region B?
* Do you have any Region 1 SD DVDs to test?
* Do you have any NTSC Region Free SD DVDs to test?

How we're going to find the code that gives the lot is anyone's guess :D -

* PAL & NTSC
* SD DVD Region Free
* BD Region Free or BD Region A & B - C isn't important

It sounds like it's the same field (fourth value) that controls PAL/NTSC, SD DVD MR and BD MR, and we just need to find the right value. Finding the value that changes it from BD Region A to Region B would be a start.

If I can suggest can we please call it Region A for BD and Region 1 for SD DVD. It's less confusing that way.

You might be right about the BD region coding, BUT what I've observed:To clarify I was referring to the third set of values not fourth, as I see you've changed :).

Looking at LG DVD players the 4th set and last set of Hex control not only region but features of the player. DVD player hacks can enable VCD playback and disable macrovision using these 2 hex digit pairs.

Looking at LG DVD players the 4th set and last set of Hex control not only region but features of the player. DVD player hacks can enable VCD playback and disable macrovision using these 2 hex digit pairs.
How do you know this? Do have any experience of this? I'm not sure I'd want to go messing them for things like VCD and Macrovision, both are pretty much dead.

The values "05 00 40" are consistent across ALL value ranges posted from USA, Canada, Mexico, UK to Australia.

Do you have any Region A BDs? If so would you be willing to try changing your BH200 (when it arrives) from 82 (Euro value) to 80? And see if they work? You'll be able to put it back again afterwards.

I dont have any Region As and wont get my BH200 until the end of next week. Can try the "80" with a Region B though.

Could some one try "0D" in the fourth block. I'd be interested to see what happens.

What do you expect to happen?

Thanks, with it set to 80 and an actual Region B BD (what title please?) would confirm it is definitely set to Region A. Not that we've got any region to suspect the Region Info page is wrong when it says what the BD and SD DVD Regions are.

It would also confirm the 80 value works on the BH100 and BH200. Do you plan to buy any Region A BDs? I guess not if you planned to stay in the Region B camp.

Some other remote codes for LG users to try:

HDCP off/on:
PAUSE,1,2,3,6,9
on screen: "OK H" or "Default H" (Status)
(2xPAUSE to leave)

Macrovision off/on:
Pause,7,4,1,5,3,6,9
on screen: "OK M" oder "Default M" (Status)
(2xPAUSE to leave)

Video/HDMI Info Page:
Pause,2,4,8,6,5
Use this to check and see if HDCP protection and Macrovision are on

What do you expect to happen?

Thanks, with it set to 80 and an actual Region B BD (what title please?) would confirm it is definitely set to Region A. Not that we've got any region to suspect the Region Info page is wrong when it says what the BD and SD DVD Regions are.

It would also confirm the 80 value works on the BH100 and BH200. Do you plan to buy any Region A BDs? I guess not if you planned to stay in the Region B camp.

If I had a Multi Zone player then I would buy some Zone A discs :) I bought alot more HDDVDs from the USA than UK.

Well, I thought if a) 82 and b) 00 respectively mean a) PAL/NTSC region 2/B and b) NTSC region 1/A, I'll get PAL/NTSC and region 1/A (stupido :)) by setting it to 80. Yep, it did not work quite the way I imagined, but, as you say, it might be a step in the right direction. The player (and myself) are from Poland, the BDs I tried are "No country for old men", "I am legend", "Casino Royale", "Patriot" and "PotC - the curse...", all of them multi region in fact (imported from USA). Now (set to 80) the DVDs region 2 DO NOT WORK (check disc msg). When it's set to 82, PAL DVDs work fine. I do not have anything region 1/A to test yet (NTSC don't know) - that's why I'm not sure it works at all. And one more thing - all the testing wouldn't be possible, if you guys hadn't come up with the EEPROM table. So if it finally works (BD region free or region A) - next time you're in Poland, I owe you one :).

I have a Region A disc (USA Die Hard) but there are a few more I want.

There aren't many Region B discs out there, except those from the UK company EIV and none that I want. I would rent one though to test it. New Line (except Pan's Labyrinth), Lionsgate (except the odd title), Fox and Disney (on some titles) all use Region A coding.

If after you get your Belgian BH200 and you do try a Region A BD please let me know. I'd be "very" keen to hear it works, before shelling out £500 myself. My original plan was to import a USA Player, so I'd like to know it works before changing that plan.

p.s - Disabling HDCP would be an interesting one.

I have a Region A disc (USA Die Hard) but there are a few more I want.

There aren't many Region B discs out there, except those from the UK company EIV and none that I want. I would rent one though to test it. New Line (except Pan's Labyrinth), Lionsgate (except the odd title), Fox and Disney (on some titles) all use Region A coding.

If after you get your Belgian BH200 and you do try a Region A BD please let me know. I'd be "very" keen to hear it works, before shelling out £500 myself. My original plan was to import a USA Player, so I'd like to know it works before changing that plan.

p.s - Disabling HDCP would be an interesting one.

I think Fox UK titles are generally Region B (My Master and Commander disc claims to be). If you want me to test Region A you can always post me Die Hard and I will post it back after testing (Which if sucessful would include a screening :) )

the BDs I tried are "No country for old men", "I am legend", "Casino Royale", "Patriot" and "PotC - the curse...", all of them multi region in fact (imported from USA). . in fact Casino Royale is the only one I bought in Poland, it is multi region.:cool:

Hi Robert007,

Please could you try a Region 0 PAL disk in you player to see if it works.

Also, I seem to remember hearing that the first bach of Aussie BH100 were Zone Free. Would be very interesting to see the EEP Rom values from one of those.

Well, I thought if a) 82 and b) 00 respectively mean a) PAL/NTSC region 2/B and b) NTSC region 1/A, I'll get PAL/NTSC and region 1/A (stupido :)) by setting it to 80.
Good thinking.

the BDs I tried are "No country for old men", "I am legend", "Casino Royale", "Patriot" and "PotC - the curse...", all of them multi region in fact (imported from USA).
Those are all Warner or Sony (except one Disney) which means Region Free :(. Casino Royale is Region A in America but everywhere else it's Region Free.

Now (set to 80) the DVDs region 2 DO NOT WORK (check disc msg). When it's set to 82, PAL DVDs work fine.
That is very interesting. I'd bet money 80 is the value for Japan. Why? -

1. Japan is BD Region A
2. Japan is SD DVD Region 2
3. Japan also uses solely NTSC for DVDs

And one more thing - all the testing wouldn't be possible, if you guys hadn't come up with the EEPROM table. So if it finally works (BD region free or region A) - next time you're in Poland, I owe you one :).
No worries, we're getting there.

I think Fox UK titles are generally Region B (My Master and Commander disc claims to be).
Yep ALL Fox discs are BD Region Locked. B for Europe/Australasia or A for The Americas/Asia.

Great you have a Region B locked disc but you now need a Region A locked disc. In case we need further proof:

http://bluray.liesinc.net/index.php?region=b

Master and Commander: Aussie, UK and Dutch ALL Region B

If you want me to test Region A you can always post me Die Hard and I will post it back after testing (Which if sucessful would include a screening :) )
Good thinking Batman! I'll PM you to let you know my details.

@ Robert007:

If assuming 80 is Japan BD Region A, what happens if you set it to 00? That is the default USA/Canadian value and presumably also means it's Region A. This should also set it to Region 1 SD DVD and NTSC only.

Could you please check and report back what the Region Info Page says? Thanks.

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@ Robert007:

Krobar has just pointed out to me what is likely to give PAL Support, SD DVD Region Free and BD Region A. User csundbom confirmed here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13741897&postcount=758

Setting it to 02 gave him:

* PAL Support
* SD DVD Region 1 and Region 2

His Player is a USA BH100 so presumably is still Region A. He doesn't say if he owns any Region A locked disc though, he may only own Region Free BDs.

Hi guys, I did some more checking. The USA settings do not work with mine BH100 (neither the original, nor the modified [02]). In each case I get the "check disc" msg. I changed it also to 00 - same msg.
So now I'm :) reverted back to factory settings and just sit and wait to get a region A BD. Hope that someone in the meantime will find it out.

By the way - BRANDAVON, you're a real mine of knowledge, where do you get this from? Do you really do not know what to do with this region free settings :) ?

And KROBAR - I do not have any Region 0 PAL DVDs - sorry, only PAL DVDs region 2, they work fine with factory settings, with my modification they fail :(.
regs

Further info from "csundbom" over PM:

"It's a US player, confirmed.

After changing byte 4 to 02, the Region Info says

DVD Region: 1
BD Region: B

I tried playing BD Region A "Before the Devil knows you're dead" and it played without issues (1080p/23.98 out)."

This is particularly interesting as he said prior with it set to 02 he could play Region 1 and PAL Region 2 SD DVDs too.

Before the Devil knows you're dead has also been confirmed to be Region A locked. Work that one out :D

Hi guys, I did some more checking. The USA settings do not work with mine BH100 (neither the original, nor the modified [02]). In each case I get the "check disc" msg. I changed it also to 00 - same msg.
That's a shame.

To clarify what discs said "check disc"? -

1. SD DVD or BD?
2. PAL or NTSC SD DVD
3. What SD DVD Region?
4. Does BD Region B work?

You could try putting it back to defaults then using:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1010650

To set it to SD DVD Region Free. You'll need to burn it to a blank DVD (so DVD+RW or DVD-RW). It's not been tested on the BH100 but may work.

By the way - BRANDAVON, you're a real mine of knowledge, where do you get this from? Do you really do not know what to do with this region free settings :) ?
I'm afraid I don't. I don't own a BH100 or BH200 ;). I just have lots of ideas and some knowledge about region coding.

I'm also unemployed hence why I cannot buy one right now and test it for myself :(. I will be able to soon, which is why I am so interested to find out.

Thanks for your help again.

The testing I did with the EU modified to 00 and with US and US/csundbom was with region 2 PAL DVD "Who is Cletis Tout?". regs

The testing I did with the EU modified to 00 and with US and US/csundbom was with region 2 PAL DVD "Who is Cletis Tout?". regs

What happens if you modify it to 02?

Krobar: Robert said above, sadly it didn't work for him either.

Thanks Robert. So when you set it to 02 you couldn't get a PAL SD DVD Region 2 DVD to work, understood.

Further info from "csundbom" over PM:

"It's a US player, confirmed.

After changing byte 4 to 02, the Region Info says

DVD Region: 1
BD Region: B

I tried playing BD Region A "Before the Devil knows you're dead" and it played without issues (1080p/23.98 out)."

This is particularly interesting as he said prior with it set to 02 he could play Region 1 and PAL Region 2 SD DVDs too.

Before the Devil knows you're dead has also been confirmed to be Region A locked. Work that one out


So does this mean with this setting on the us player it will play BD region A and B plus both SD region 1 and 2?

This is getting interesting and confusing! ;)

Athanasios

So does this mean with this setting on the us player it will play BD region A and B plus both SD region 1 and 2?

This is getting interesting and confusing! ;)

Athanasios
Not sure about BD region B. I don't have any B discs to test with.

So does this mean with this setting on the us player it will play BD region A and B plus both SD region 1 and 2?
Possibly but it needs confirming. It's been confirmed:

1. PAL Support - NTSC should be standard across all settings
2. SD DVD Region 1 and Region 2 - Likely Region Free but not tested for sure
3. BD Region A

Now this is of course where it gets interesting as it clearly says BD Region B but then it also says SD DVD Region 1 and "csundbom" has confirmed he can play a PAL SD DVD Region 2 disc, so who knows.

Interestingly Robert007 set his to 02 but he says he couldn't then get PAL Region 2 discs to work (see above), so the plot thickens.

It also makes zero sense regardless as there is NO country that is BD Region B but SD DVD Region 1 :D.

This is getting interesting and confusing! ;)
Confused? Surely not :D

User Krobar has SD DVDs across most regions and will soon have both Region A and Region B locked BDs. He'll then be able to test it properly, see here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13795351#post13795351

ok that post for the 200 says it doesnt matter where the player was bouhgt, what about the 100? same thing?

Athanasios

I've been chatting with an LG employee over PM and here is what they've said. It mixes between the BH100 and BH200:
LG Employee: Some people may be able to unlock a lot more since the BH100's made dec06~april06 contain to broadcom IC's. I think it was May07 they took the extra one off the board. Anyway the BH100's that have 2, one of them is disabled. And the one that is disabled what does it do? Maybe a little something to do with HD. :cool:

Bradavon: are you abbreviating HD-DVD to HD and mean HDi was included but disabled?

Any idea why kit sold in The Americas has PAL disabled by default? Sure I know nothing in The America is in PAL but it still seems odd when it's so easy to enable/disable it. Why not just leave it enabled?

Lastly, is there any way to do any long term damage by altering any of the values in the EEPROM menu? Presumably you can always put it back to defaults? I just don't want to go bricking a BH200 by tinkering too much.

LG Employee: PAL is just disabled since it is sold in North America. It is easier to just disable it via the menu, remember these are made on an assembly line so when they are making them for a certain region they just change the options in the menu for that run of units.

No long term damage, this is how it is done in the factory.

I guess I should put a word of caution about changing the menu numbers. There is a chance of bricking a unit. I do not have a list of numbers that will do this so just a word of caution for everyone. For people who have the ability to return the unit to a store for exchange, no fears change the menu to whatever you like and see what happens.

For legal reasons the extra IC was disabled. This was the only way the BH100 could be sold. You may thank the battle between bluray and HD for that one. Neither one of them wanted a player that could do both. Of course differences were worked out so to speak and the BH200 was able to do HDi.

The "service port" on the back of the BH100 is not for service. It was just called a service port again for legal reasons. In reality it is an ethernet port. You normally do not see service ports with link lights. A few Dec07 units do say ethernet instead of service, if anyone has one of these, a collectors item :D

Bradavon: Any idea what Julio Cohen has done here to achieve SD DVD MR? - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1010650

It's been confirmed this hack doesn't alter the values in the EEPROM menu.

LG Employee: Now what Julio did looks like a region code hack program. You can download these just do a google search. I am not sure if he modified an existing hack program so it would work with the BH200 or if he just took an existing program and just used it and it worked. Either way like I was saying before I am quite surprised nobody has done this sooner.

Hello,

I decided to purchase a BH200 today from my local BB. I walked in expecting to pay their MSRP but they had an open box for $200 less with full warranty and 30 day guarantee. I couldn't justify not trying the open box out. I have watch the threads here on this player for a while and they have been extremely helpful. I have a large library of both discs and and a DLP in our media room upstairs, I am upgrading our old downstairs TV to hidef and this is going to come in very handy

Having said that - I haven't purchased open box before. Outside of checking various discs in the player, physical condition, etc is there anything else I should look for? I am sure I will have to update the firmware..

I am preparing to purchase the Samsung 40" 650 Series LCD from an online retailer to pair with this player. Any advice on settings for that TV(which should arrive next week) would be welcome as well!

Regards,
Craig

I've been chatting with an LG employee over PM and here is what they've said. It mixes between the BH100 and BH200:

LG Employee: Some people may be able to unlock a lot more since the BH100's made dec06~april06 contain to broadcom IC's. I think it was May07 they took the extra one off the board. Anyway the BH100's that have 2, one of them is disabled. And the one that is disabled what does it do? Maybe a little something to do with HD.

Bradavon: are you abbreviating HD-DVD to HD and mean HDi was included but disabled?

Any idea why kit sold in The Americas has PAL disabled by default? Sure I know nothing in The America is in PAL but it still seems odd when it's so easy to enable/disable it. Why not just leave it enabled?

Lastly, is there any way to do any long term damage by altering any of the values in the EEPROM menu? Presumably you can always put it back to defaults? I just don't want to go bricking a BH200 by tinkering too much.

LG Employee: PAL is just disabled since it is sold in North America. It is easier to just disable it via the menu, remember these are made on an assembly line so when they are making them for a certain region they just change the options in the menu for that run of units.

No long term damage, this is how it is done in the factory.

I guess I should put a word of caution about changing the menu numbers. There is a chance of bricking a unit. I do not have a list of numbers that will do this so just a word of caution for everyone. For people who have the ability to return the unit to a store for exchange, no fears change the menu to whatever you like and see what happens.

For legal reasons the extra IC was disabled. This was the only way the BH100 could be sold. You may thank the battle between bluray and HD for that one. Neither one of them wanted a player that could do both. Of course differences were worked out so to speak and the BH200 was able to do HDi.

The "service port" on the back of the BH100 is not for service. It was just called a service port again for legal reasons. In reality it is an ethernet port. You normally do not see service ports with link lights. A few Dec07 units do say ethernet instead of service, if anyone has one of these, a collectors item

Bradavon: Any idea what Julio Cohen has done here to achieve SD DVD MR? - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1010650

It's been confirmed this hack doesn't alter the values in the EEPROM menu.

LG Employee: Now what Julio did looks like a region code hack program. You can download these just do a google search. I am not sure if he modified an existing hack program so it would work with the BH200 or if he just took an existing program and just used it and it worked. Either way like I was saying before I am quite surprised nobody has done this sooner.


Man if we could find the original programing to enable the second broadcom chip........... I alway wanted to hook up the ethernet port to my router and see if it was visible. But with out the software enabled in the unit it wont help much, maybe we can send emails asking LG to now enable the second chip and the ethernet port for those who have these units. I knbow they most likly wont but its worth a shot.

Athanasios

It's worth asking. It sounds like the licensing preventing it in the first place has been sorted out.

It sounds like you'd also need a 2006 model too.

Thats what I have , bought it new.

Athanasios

Hello guys, did you try the region hacks from videohelp.com? there is plenty of hacks for LG players (non for BH100/200 though).

By the way - Julio's way to make the BH200 region free doesn't work for the BH100 :(

By the way - Julio's way to make the BH200 region free doesn't work for the BH100 :(
What happened when you put the disc in the BH100? Did anything happen or did the BH100 an unrecognised disc? If so:

I presume you burnt the file to a DVD? So it read? -

\RMTM0000\Scarlet\kpjc19_1.dvd
And not: \kpjc19_1.dvd

Also double check here, to check you burnt a standard DVD:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13503009&postcount=84

Those instructions are for the BH200 so just replace CD with DVD.

p.s - The RMTM Hack can be downloaded here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1027617

Finally bit the bullet and nabbed on (decent price) to get my Purple on. Now... just to update the firmware and play around with it :-).

What a NICE surprise! The firmware installs QUICKLY compared to my old Toshiba (which took close to 30 minutes) and the interface is miles better.

Now that it has officially dropped 200$, I can see these finally starting to take off. Hopefully LG stays committed to pumping out this product (or newer models) b/c it is one nice machine.

Happy :-)

Yes, you're right. I made a data CD using Nero 6. So what you say is to make a data DVD and burn it to DVD preserving the katalogue structure? The message I got was "Disc Error" and it spat the disc out. And I forgot - the BH100 does not read CDs!

Please burn the file to a blank DVD using the instructions in the link I mention above. Nero 6 will do just fine.

It's worth a try, you never know. Like you say I'm not surprised it didn't work with a CD.

Brandavon, I say you start another thread called Bh100 region free hack trials or something like that to summerise exactly what the known working eprom changes work and which machine they are succesfull on country wise.

Athanasios

It's a good idea but it should really be maintained by a BH100 user. My main interest in this thread is for info we can also use on the BH200.

I will however see if I can summarise things:

* For the start of the BH100 EEPROM: PAL/SD DVD MR discussion click here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13714189#post13714189).
* For interesting information about the BH100 and it supporting HDi/PIP, click here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13808132&postcount=809).

* How do I check what my current firmware is, what my SD DVD/Blu-ray Region Code is?

Go to:

1. SETUP
2. TV ASPECT
3. SELECT 16:9
4. PRESS 1397139 ON THE REMOTE
5. PRESS ENTER

* How to access the EEPROM menu:

1. Make sure no disc is in the tray
2. Press PAUSE, 1, 4, 7, 2

Remember to turn the BH100 Off (Power Button not at the Wall) after making changes!

* What is an EEPROM?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEPROM

* Default strings:

Australian BH100: 41 55 00 8D 00 05 00 40
USA BH100: 55 53 00 00 00 05 00 40
UK BH100: 44 45 00 82 00 05 00 40
Mexican BH100: 4D 58 01 00 00 05 00 40

* Confirmed BH100 codes that enable PAL:

If you note the above strings have a value in bold, it's this value that needs changing, do NOT change any of the other values:

Region 2/PAL: 80
Region 2/PAL: 82
Region 4/PAL: 8D
Region Free/PAL: 02

NOTE: On the BH100 when PAL is enabled: Output can be configured to 576p/50Hz or 1080p/24Hz (an NTSC DVD can still be played). In NTSC mode, it enables 480p/59.95Hz and 1080/23.98Hz

* Confirmed BH100 codes that alter the Blu-ray region:

BD Region A: 80
BD Region B: 02

However it has also been confirmed a Region A locked BD works with 02 set, see here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13792299&postcount=801).

* How do I make the BH100/BH200 SD DVD Multiregion?

If you find altering your BH100 to the 02 code causes the BH100 to work incorrectly or would simply prefer not to alter the EEPROM values click here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13817744&postcount=816). This will allow you to download the "Region Management Test Hack" program.

* It seems if your BH100 is set to 02 you will get:

SD DVD PAL Support
SD DVD Region Free (R1 and R2 Confirmed)
BD Region A and Region B (maybe Region Free) - A BD Region B disc has yet to be tested

If someone wants to start a thread by all means copy/paste this info :).

It seems to me 02 gives the LOT. It needs a second user to confirm it though, and to test a Region B BD.

Hello. Bradavon, I just did the DVD with Julio's hack and it worked the following way:
1. I started with the UK-EEPROM
2. I did get the region menu screen
3. I chose the 0 for multi-region and confirmed by pressing PAUSE (as in the on-screen instruction).
What happend? It did not change the EEPROM but the DVD region was set to 0, BD region remained B. I changed then the 4th byte to 80 (from 82), confirmed and rebooted. To my surprise the EEPROM changed itself to the standard US-values and DVD region to 1 and BD region to A. So now I do not get any DVD to play (not from region 2, I did find one DVD region 0 PAL [femme fatale] - it doesn't work). But HD-DVD (Seabiscuit) and Blu-ray (I am Legend - multiregion) work fine. So as soon my BD region A arrives I'll test the following: whether it plays at all and whether I can make the csundbom hack. goodnight :)

Thanks Robert.

Firstly great the RMTM CD works. It sounds like changing to value 80 overrode what the RMTM CD set, is this correct?

It's odd a PAL DVD doesn't work. If you re-run the RMTM CD and put it back to Region Free. How are things then? It's interesting to note RMTM CD is overridden when you change the EEPROM value, on the BH200 the RMTM CD takes precedence over the EEPROM menu.

p.s - I would be inclined to put it back to R0 using the RMTM CD then try setting it to 02. You may not need to use the RMTM CD with 02.

By changing to 02 the EEPROM changed back to the UK values - by itself. The PAL DVDs work fine now, the BD region's back to B and DVD region is 2. Other thing that I've observed is that by applying RMTM the EEPROM didn't change, but the checksum did (normally it changes with every EEPROM change) :/

Thanks Robert.

Do you have any Non-R1 DVDs and Non-RB BDs to now test with it set to 02? What do you mean by Checksum? It sounds like that isn't part of the EEPROM menu.

Other thing that I've observed is that by applying RMTM the EEPROM didn't change
Surely it does, no? If the BR region changes and PAL is supported again.

Ok.
1. By changing the EEPROM US values to 02, the whole EEPROM changed back by itself to the UK values - now the PAL DVDs do work properly.
2.The application of the RMTM DVD did not change the EEPROM, only the region in the system info was DVD region 0.
3. The checksum is the line below the EEPROM line in the system summary. it is not in the EEPROM menu is the result of Menu>..>TV Aspect 16/9>Enter>1397139>Enter.
4. I only have multi region BDs and region 2 DVDs (one region 0 DVD).
regs

Thanks Robert.

It's a shame you have no discs to test it with but good to hear the RMTM CD works on the BH100 too, provided you use a DVD.

Hi Bradavon,

I've been following your posts with great interest, and today tried the EEPROM number change on my British BH100 to try and turn it multi region.

Here is what the machine was set to before the change (82):

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/95848262e881637e.jpg

And here's what it read after the change (02):

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/95848262e88bb453.jpg

I found it still wouldn't play Region 1 SD DVD's (I tried "As Good As It Gets" - Columbia, & "Outland" - Warner)

All I got was this:

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/95848262e895d877.jpg


Also, when I put in a Region 2 SD DVD (Music & Lyrics from Warner), the picture now stuttered- ie would play then freeze for a couple of frames, then play again, but the sound stayed correct !?!

I did however find that it still played both BD Region B discs I tried perfectly, they were "Ratatouille" - Disney, and "Die Hard 4.0" - Fox.

Unfortunately I am waiting for my first BD Region A disc to arrive from ebay, so I can't confirm the 02 multi-region BD setting works for my machine yet.

Why won't my deck play SD Region 1 DVD's & why does it cause the region 2 SD DVD's to stutter in this way !?!

I have since put the values back to 82, and my BH100 now works properly again (without Multi-Regionality).

You did say that we had to turn off the machine after making changes, does that mean unplugging from the wall, or just putting the player into standby (which is what I did).

Could this have made any difference - obviously the player picked up a change cos it made the SD DVD stutter.

Any thoughts?

You did say that we had to turn off the machine after making changes, does that mean unplugging from the wall, or just putting the player into standby (which is what I did).Hi Reebs. I meant putting it into standby but that was more "my personal opinion" than fact. On the BH200 you need to power cycle to switch between BD Regions but not to enable PAL support. I think that's it.

I'm not 100% if it's necessary on the BH100 but to be sure I put that into the info above.

As you have a UK BH100 you obviously don't need PAL support (as you have it anyway). My suggestion would be to try the RMTM hack. Which "seems" to work on the BH100, obviously if you use a DVD:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13817744#post13817744

Here's the post from the user who said 02 worked for him. I don't think anyone else has been able to play R1 and R2 DVDs using 02 though:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13741897#post13741897

I suspect PAL DVDs started stuttering due to the output settings being altered. Csundbom said when the number was altered the frame rate altered too to match up with PAL (in that link above). I would guess the opposite happened for you (NTSC). Thankfully when you change the codes on the BH200 this doesn't happen.

Yep I'd definitely try the RMTM hack as that won't alter the output settings! That with the 82 code could be the way to go. The RMTM Hack should override whatever SD DVD Region is stored in the code you're using, meaning you can in theory have Region Free (or Region 1-6) plus BD Region A, for example.

On the BH200: 80 (with PAL), 8D (with PAL) and 00 (No PAL) make it BD Region A BUT it's been shown the codes don't usually match up between models. By all means try them to see if they make the BH100 Region A though, checked by the System Info window.

80 has been confirmed to work on the BH100 though, to make it BD Region A. That maybe a good one to test. On the BH200 8D isn't an Official code so use 80 (or 00) before it.

Give the RMTM Hack ago and/or Code 80!

Lastly here's the BH200 hacking thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1010650

My hunch is the two models don't share the same code but you never know. Give the "BH200 Hacking Thread" a read.

Thanks for the photos btw.

Good Luck!

Bradavon, a quick progress report...

Well, I'm no computer expert, but I've spent the best part of 3 hours trying to burn the hack to DVD, but unfortunately 2 failed DVD attempts later I can't get the BH100 to do anything other than spit out either disc saying "Check Disc".

I have, as far as I can tell, followed your instructions to the letter, I've downloaded the hack from the original link, as well as your own link , and they both look the same once onto DVD.

The burned disc contains only the following:

A folder called RMTM0000

inside which is another folder called Scarlet

inside which is a file called kpjc19_1 which is (5,242,884 bytes) in size.

I used Nero to burn the DVD, in the same way I do for LG ISO files for software updates, but my player doesn't like it.

The Iso settings for nero are as you suggested.

I'm sure it must be something I'm doing wrong as another member was able to load the download into his BH100.

As we are both in the U.K, would it perhaps be possible for you to post me a copy of your downloaded DVD to try?

If so I can P.M you my contact details.

Many thanks.

I could do that but to be honest I don't own a BH100 and was only originally interested to find out what will also work on the BH200. I just thought I'd summarise things above, that's all. I've managed to pick up a fair bit over the past few weeks but unlike others haven't test it for myself.

The disc I create will be no different to what you created. I won't be able to test it for myself.

It's sorry to hear you've not got the RMTM hack to work, maybe robert007 was just lucky as the person who originally posted it said it was for the BH200. All I can suggest now is you pm robert007 and ask what he did.

Sorry I cannot be any more help. I'm at a loss what more to suggest.

no worries Bradavon,

just thought I'd ask on the off chance.

I'll get in touch with robert007 and see if he can help.

Can I just say thanks for being able to summarise the ever growing mine field of info regarding this topic, and I do appreciate all you've done on this forum.

If I ever get my BH100 to be fully multi-region both HD & SD I'll let you all know.

Cheers,

Reebs.

Can I just say thanks for being able to summarise the ever growing mine field of info regarding this topic, and I do appreciate all you've done on this forum.
No worries. Mine field is an understatement :D

If I ever get my BH100 to be fully multi-region both HD & SD I'll let you all know.
Thank you.

Hello gys. I just wonder, if anyone's been suuccessful in the meantime to the BH100 region A discs to play. if not, I'm just reporting, I'm watching nor "reservoire dogs" region A coded discs and it works fine (on a UK-settings device). cheers :)

Aaaaah, the bitter taste of defeat... After much Internet sleuthing, I found the Service Manual for BH-100 (the one for BH-200 does not seem to exist anywhere) - only in...Spanish (for Mexican units). The reasoning was that a service manual is BOUND to have a list of EEPROM codes, thus revealing the controls of the unit, to us, eager Region-decoders. Alas, this comprehensive .pdf ($20 for 111 pages!!!) contains all possible details, including schematics and electrical diagrams and voltage ranges - has only brief half-paragraph on EEPROM and that's just on how to access it and change it. Even though my Spanish is rusty ("Dos cervezas, por favor!) I could tell that the secret I sought is not there. Those of you who think they may find it or need detailed schematics, drop me a line and we can figure out the way to share this volume with you. Who knew that making this baby BD Region-free will be this tedious????:(

So now it's official - region A BDs work on my BH100 (tested on reservoire dogs). I just came back from shopping, where I tried to play the disc in a video store on a SONY BDP300. The message was disc region mismatch. cheers

So now it's official - region A BDs work on my BH100 (tested on reservoire dogs). I just came back from shopping, where I tried to play the disc in a video store on a SONY BDP300. The message was disc region mismatch. cheers

Thanks Robert. Could you confirm what your EEPROM string is for us, please? And are you currently running the RMTM CD hack?

Sounds like you've got yourself a good player there!

As well as what Peter says: Have you modified the EEPROM string?

Hello guys. The EEPROM string is at it's factory settings (standard UK-values). All I did you'll find in my previous posts. When the player changed back (by itself) the EEPROM values to 44 45 00 82 00 05 00 40 I didn't touch anything more. What's interesting though, the message on the front display, I used to have in the final stage of booting the unit - LOCK ON - is gone. That's the only thing that's chaged. In the summary I see region 1 DVD and region B BD. Just to be sure, I'll just order the region A BD I did my first test with - Live free or die hard. But as of now, everything seems to work. regards

Thanks Robert.

I'm not sure what to make of the BH100 and the EEPROM menu. There doesn't seem to be any patter. I'm sure 82 on the BH200 doesn't allow it to play RA BDs.

Have you tried both RA and RB BDs using the same code?

It sounds like the RMTM hack worked even better on the BH100 than the BH200, making it BD Region Free. We need to find Julio again and see where he got that hack from and whether it can be modified.

I guess we could PM him. The LG Engineer I asked said, it looked to be generic and can be found on Google. They weren't sure if Julio had amended it on top of that.

I suspect it won't work on the BH200 though.

Well, I tried both region A (one) and region free (many) BDs (I don't have any region B disc). As I said, there is no LOCK ON massage anymore (maybe it has something to do with it). I just ordered tree foxes (region A) - will see what'll happen hwen they arrive. cheers :)

Well I can now follow up on my previous posts, and can officially state that my BH100 is totally multi-region for both SD DVD's & Blu Rays too :D

To summarise what I've done thus far:

My UK PAL machine had the original eeprom setting 44 45 00 82 00 05 00 40, as is it's factory setting out of the box.

I changed the code to 02, but for me that made the PAL SD region 2 discs stutter & judder plus Region 1 SD DVD's still wouldn't play so I put it back to 82.


Next I downloaded & burned to DVD the much talked about BH200 RMTM hack and inserted the disc, it gave me the option to select a new SD region 0-6, I set it to 0 and did a power cycle.

The machine would now play PAL Region 2 discs (without stutter) as well as NTSC Region 1 discs including RCE discs like Dantes Peak & The Abyss which my Toshiba Multi-Region will not play.

Changing the player from Region 2 to Region 0 DID NOT alter the eeprom numbers in any way, the only thing that changed was the Check Sum which went from 0x09AF (Region 2) to 0x09AD (Region 0).



So far so good.... what about BD Regions then, well my machine could always play BD Region B discs like Disney's Pirates Of The Caribbean At World's Edge, but today I was able to try Disney's BD Region A film "The Game Plan", and it played perfectly too.

Just to be sure, I took the Region A disc to Comet and got them to play it in a UK Panasonic Blu Ray player, the result - it came up with "Wrong region check disc" so "The Game Plan" is definately a BD Region A title and my BH100 has no problem with it.

This means there is one of four possibilites:

1) All LG BH100's are BD Multi Region straight out of the box

2) The RMTM hack somehow makes the BD side all region too

3) My initial changing of eeprom from 82 to 02 then back again, did it.

4) the combination of doing both 2 & 3 above did it.


Finally I put the RMTM disc in again and changed it back to Region 2, then tried both SD & BD discs.....only SD-DVD Region 2 would play as you'd expect, but BD Region A & B would both play ok !?!

Lastly using the RMTM disc again I set the player to Region 1, and the result - only SD Region 1 discs would play, but still BD Region A & B both worked.

The check sum for Region 1 was 0x09AE, and to confirm the eeprom stayed at factory default of 44 45 00 82 00 05 00 40.

What we need is someone with an unaltered BH100 to try spinning a BD region A & Region B disc to confirm the player is not BD Multi-Region out of the box, to be absolutely certain.


But as for me, I'm very happy because now I can play anything on my deck (except a CD) :confused:

Hope this clarify's things a bit.

Great work there Reebs. It does seem SD DVD and BD Region storage is stored somewhere in the same place. On the BH100!

On the BH200 if you press PAUSE on the System Info Menu it reverts the SD DVD Region back to it's defaults (so thereby removing the RMTM code). You could try this to see if BD Region A still works. See here:
As you have noted, changing EEPROM byte 4 doesn't override the DVD Region setting made by the RMTM CD. However, I found that if you perform a Factory Reset by pressing PAUSE on the System Information screen, the DVD Region code does get changed to what you would expect, i.e., 8D -> R1, 96 -> R2. Note that this change does NOT occur when you perform a Factory Reset from the normal user menu (SETUP->OTHERS->Initialize->Factory Reset).Source: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13811612&postcount=50

As far as we know that's the only way to remove the RMTM Hack once you use it. Changing it back to R1/R2 from R0 technically doesn't remove it.

The machine would now play PAL Region 2 discs (without stutter) as well as NTSC Region 1 discs including RCE discs like Dantes Peak & The Abyss which my Toshiba Multi-Region will not play.That's interesting, as on the BH200 with the RMTM Hack set to R0 RCE discs do not work.

Just to be sure, I took the Region A disc to Comet and got them to play it in a UK Panasonic Blu Ray player, the result - it came up with "Wrong region check disc" so "The Game Plan" is definately a BD Region A title and my BH100 has no problem with it.Great work there also, thanks. It's also confirmed here as Region Locked:

http://bluray.liesinc.net/

Finally I presume the System Info window still says BD Region B? Even though you can still play Region A and B.

On the BH200 if you press PAUSE on the System Info Menu it reverts the SD DVD Region back to it's defaults (so thereby removing the RMTM code). You could try this to see if BD Region A still works.

As far as we know that's the only way to remove the RMTM Hack once you use it. Changing it back to R1/R2 from R0 technically doesn't remove it.

I didn't know that, I'll give that a try in the morning and report back.

Finally I presume the System Info window still says BD Region B? Even though you can still play Region A and B.

Yes I can confirm that in all cases the System Info window showed "BD Region B", only the DVD Region changed.

Reebs: On your numbered list of BD region free possibilites for the BH100,I believe the player was bd region free straight out of the box for the Australian BH100, my model(april 2007) shipped with march 2007 firmware.Not shore if the latest firmware rectified this BD zone free but I doubt it. On My box it has BH100-P_ALL B, Other Australian owners have also found this to be true with the shipped firmware....

What we need is someone with an unaltered BH100 to try spinning a BD region A & Region B disc to confirm the player is not BD Multi-Region out of the box, to be absolutely certain.


I'll do it, i havn't altered anything yet but plan to. where could I go online and get both regions for BD and a sd dvd in europe to deliver to the USA?

Athanasios

Reebs: On your numbered list of BD region free possibilites for the BH100,I believe the player was bd region free straight out of the box for the Australian BH100, my model(april 2007) shipped with march 2007 firmware.Not shore if the latest firmware rectified this BD zone free but I doubt it. On My box it has BH100-P_ALL B, Other Australian owners have also found this to be true with the shipped firmware....

Hi Cinema mad,

apart from the BD Region B logo actually printed in the design of the box artwork, the only labels present are these:

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/9584833f14c8a7e6.jpg

I bought the player in December 2007, and it was shipped with firmware level: BH01-070503 (May 07).

It is currently running firmware level: BH01-080229a (Feb 08)


To update you on Bradavons suggestion, I got the System info screen up, and pressed pause to reset the machine (apparently to a pre-RMTM Hacked condition).

After a power cycle, the player system info reverted back to displaying DVD Region 2, and BD Region B, still no changes to the eeprom string, but the Check sum went back to 0x09AF (for Region 2)

So then a quick look see as to what it would play:

Standard DVD = Region 2 only
BD Region B = Yes
BD Region A = YES

So it would seem, if the machine had indeed been put back to a Pre-RMTM Hacked state (i.e) shipping condition, then my BH100 is in fact BD Region Free straight out of the box after all !!

Hi Reebs,
I wonder wether the US BH100 is Blu-ray zone free straight out of box I doubt it but we will soon see,I know there where only A small number of BH100's shipped to Australia under 200 units. For the first week upon the BH100's release in Australia LG off loaded these players with A special price, under $1000au.I will post A couple of pictures of my BH100 box info because I see A few simularities between our player's box info, of coarse my SD-DVD is zone 4....

Hi Reebs,
I wonder wether the US BH100 is Blu-ray zone free straight out of box I doubt it but we will soon see,I know there where only A small number of BH100's shipped to Australia under 200 units. For the first week upon the BH100's release in Australia LG off loaded these players with A special price, under $1000au.I will post A couple of pictures of my BH100 box info because I see A few simularities between our player's box info, of coarse my SD-DVD is zone 4....

I got mine the first day it came out in the USA, All I need is a region B disc to play. Any Suggestions on what online store to get one?

Also do you guys have in the menu under the lock section,an "Area code" input? In Mine there is a spot where you enter a 4 digit code that is hidden as you input it like a password and above it is a spot that show the current area(mine says US) I wonder if all machines have this. I have not seen anyone mention it in the thread and wonder if its possible to change regions here as well with the password that most likely would be zone specific.

Athanasios


Athanasios

Hi Athanasios,
Ezy DVD.com.au) is an Australian online store and have region B Blu-Rays check them out, they also have dirt cheap HD-DVD's for sale.I will check and see if my BH-100 has the hidden 4 digit menu for area code, could you tell me how to access this hidden menu(under the lock section) so I can check for it tomorrow because it's 1:30am where I am....

Athanasios
If you want to try a Region B title have a look on US ebay.....

item number 360051584645

Here I found X-Men III- The Last Stand which is a Fox UK region B. the seller is in the UK, but will ship to the States. I've got this one myself and it is def Region B.

The Area Code input is so you can tell the player what country's standards of censorship rating to use, on page 19 of the manual it says:

"Enter the code of the area whose standards were used to rate the DVD video disc, based on the list on page 26" - basically if you have set the player to be password protected for movies of say PG-13 or over, the player will know what is acceptable to play in your particular territory and what is not by entering the 2 letter code for the USA, etc.

I don't bother with it myself.

I've just come back from the store I bought my machine from in December.

They still have a BH100 in their demo room, unmodified in any way - still has May 07 software (070503a), so I've been testing my discs again:

Standard DVD = Region 2 only

BD Region B = Yes
BD Region A = YES !!!

Definately confirmed (for the UK market machines anyway) An out of the box BH100 IS BD REGION FREE

But needs the RMTM Hack disc to make it RCE DVD Region Free.

To be absolutely certain about my Region A Disney Disc "The Game Plan", we put it in a UK Samsung player, and it said "Wrong Region", so thats two UK non LG machines it won't play on.....but the BH 100 is fine with no tweeking to be done.:)

I just orderd 50 First Dates region 2 from Amazon UK and Breaking And Entering both I think are region 2(b) Aslo Almost famous since i cant find it here in the states.
I'll test them in my unmoded player when they come in, 6-10 days.

Athanasios

I just orderd 50 First Dates region 2 from Amazon UK and Breaking And Entering both I think are region 2(b) Aslo Almost famous since i cant find it here in the states.
I'll test them in my unmoded player when they come in, 6-10 days.

Athanasios

Which of those three titles did you order on Blu Ray? Only Breaking & Entering is Region B the other two Sony Pictures discs are all Region, and will play on any Blu Ray machine anywhere.

I'll do it, i havn't altered anything yet but plan to. where could I go online and get both regions for BD and a sd dvd in europe to deliver to the USA?
I cannot talk for Mainland Europe (although Amazon France and Amazon Germany probably ship to North America) but these countries ship to North America from The UK:

http://www.sendit.com/
http://www.dvd.co.uk/
http://www.choicesuk.com/
http://www.amazon.co.uk/
http://www.hmv.com/ (http://www.sendit.com/video/item/7001000130021)
http://www.zavvi.co.uk/ - This company used to be called Virgin Megastore.

All of them are reliable and well known of here. I don't know which works out cheapest to America when you include postage, but it should be easy to check the help pages. If the discs you bought are cheaper at these any of these places you can always cancel online at Amazon.

As a rule of thumb UK discs are the cheapest, then Australian followed by Mainland European discs. French and German discs are particularly expensive.

After a power cycle, the player system info reverted back to displaying DVD Region 2, and BD Region B, still no changes to the eeprom string, but the Check sum went back to 0x09AF (for Region 2)
Thanks for confirming it removes the RMTM Hack on the BH100 too.

How weird the BH100 from the UK anyway is BD Region Free but not SD DVD Region Free out of the box. I would imagine the System Info window always says Region A, B or C no matter what technically it is.

Also do you guys have in the menu under the lock section,an "Area code" input? In Mine there is a spot where you enter a 4 digit code that is hidden as you input it like a password and above it is a spot that show the current area(mine says US)
Do you mean the EEPROM menu or something else? All BH100s/BH200s have this.

I just orderd 50 First Dates region 2 from Amazon UK and Breaking And Entering both I think are region 2(b) Aslo Almost famous since i cant find it here in the states.
I'll test them in my unmoded player when they come in, 6-10 days.
I presume you mean BD Region B and not SD DVD Region 2? There is no such thing as BD Region 2 :).

As Reebs says only "Breaking and Entering" is BD Region B, the other two are Region Free (99% of Sony BDs are Region Free). This site is very handy for checking region coding status (click on RA or RB at the top):

http://bluray.liesinc.net/

Hi bradavon,
what nashou66 is talking about(lock menu/parental control, Area code menu) is referred to on page 19 of the BH100 owners manual it is not related to the EEprom menu....

Thanks. I'm looking at the BH100 manual now.

Isn't that just to do with Parental Controls? Maybe discs could have different types of locks (maybe ratings based) depending on locality. I'd presume it's Hidden so kids cannot access it easily.

They still have a BH100 in their demo room, unmodified in any way - still has May 07 software (070503a), so I've been testing my discs again:

Reebs,

Can you advise what store you tried the demo player on, i'm in the UK and would consider buying it,

regards,

Neil

Reebs,

Can you advise what store you tried the demo player on, i'm in the UK and would consider buying it,

regards,

Neil

Hi Neil,

Yes it's at Richer Sounds in Southampton,
Tel: 02380 231 311

I'd be quick though, the sales assistant was very tempted to snap it up for himself, once he knew it was BD Multi Region!!!

If you have no luck there, I'd suggest phoning around other branches to see if anyone else still has one left.

Good luck.

While the main point of this forum is to share info, We should All be Aware the more we publicize the fact(talk)about the "BLU-RAY" region free player, we owners will burn ourselves in the end when it is region locked with A new firmware release, What do you all think??....

I dont think they will as many movies are already region free. I have a feeling its all moving in that direction now with the onset of a global HD standard.

Athanasios

I agree with both of you but more so nashou66, simply because LG isn't Sony. Who oddly don't use BD Region Coding, yet! I can see Sony using it when Blu-ray has taken off more though. Sony adore copy protection etc...

LG has struck me as being more for the consumer. They wouldn't provide an EEPROM hack if they didn't want consumers to find it. I also think the BH100 is now considered an old product so LG don't have a huge interest in it any more.

While it's great the BH100 is BD Region Free out of the box (at least in The UK), personally I'd still get the BH200. You can at least switch between regions on that one.

sure LG isnt as interested in region coding as Sony

but dont kid yourselves - they didnt put the EEPROM hacks in there for customers.
They are there so that the manufacturing process can quickly adapt to building for different regions

Other manufacturers don't make it "so easy" to hack their products though.

I agree with both of you but more so nashou66, simply because LG isn't Sony. Who oddly don't use BD Region Coding, yet! I can see Sony using it when Blu-ray has taken off more though. Sony adore copy protection etc...


Heaps of Sony titles are locked to Region A (which makes sense since Region A titles are usually available earlier and cheaper). In fact it was a Sony title (The Lives of Others, Region A only, and locked) that persuaded me I needed a Region A player.

Correct but they've not used it for some time now.

When they did use Region Coding they used it much more on Region A (e.g - Casino Royal USA Region A, everywhere else Region Free). I do agree though Region A is the way to go, hence while I'll be making my Euro BH200 Region A.

I am sure that the other BLU-Ray player manufactures would be annoyed with LG including the Blu-Ray association also at this time, because of the stipulated BLU-RAY profile guide lines as far as BD region zoning not being abided by in regards to LG players. These ZONING guide lines must be abided by "all" Blu-Ray Player manufactures which of corse sucks!!!!....

Hi Neil,

Yes it's at Richer Sounds in Southampton,
Tel: 02380 231 311

I'd be quick though, the sales assistant was very tempted to snap it up for himself, once he knew it was BD Multi Region!!!

If you have no luck there, I'd suggest phoning around other branches to see if anyone else still has one left.

Good luck.

thanks, i discovered that after i had submitted the post, cant decide whether to import via ebay or buy in the uk and pay more

The warranty will likely be affected using a 100v model (i.e - North America) in a 220v country (i.e - the UK) and you also have to mess around with a voltage converter too.

That's why I decided to go with a BH200 from Europe (Belgium to be exact as they're virtually impossible to buy in The UK).

I just received my region B movie "Breaking and Entering" and it plays on my Region A
DEC 2006 BH100 bought new in the USA. So it seems this player is BD region free right out of the box. I do not have a pal region 2 SD DVD to test.

Athanasios

I just got this player a few days ago. I was watching "The Pianist" on HD DVD, and the picture seemed only barely better than a standard DVD picture. Is this the movie, or is HD DVD picture quality on this player lower than the average HD DVD player? I also plan to update to the most recent firmware soon - will that improve the picture quality, and will it make the menus in HD DVD movies work correctly? Thanks - :D

I have found both HD-DVD and BLU-RAY play back spot on with this player but if the movie is not the best quality then the picture will suffer. Even if you update the BH100 to the latest firmware the basic menu structure will still be the same for HD-DVD playback. If you read the first few posts you will see that LG use there own menu to get around the HD-DVD licencing requirement's....

Is there a list anywhere of all the updates that are included in the most recent firmware, which is BH01-080229a? Also, is blu-ray and hd dvd playback on the player top notch overall?

Also, any tips for dealing with the neutered menu features on HD DVDs ?

I love my Bh100 and so do many others. Person99 is a very very very picky guy and argues a lot with every one on every thing, needless to say i was suprised he liked my recomendation to get this player read this : Dave Loves his LG BH100!! (http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10423&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=20) read down about 15 posts.

Athanasios

I love my Bh100 and so do many others. Person99 is a very very very picky guy and argues a lot with every one on every thing, needless to say i was suprised he liked my recomendation to get this player read this : Dave Loves his LG BH100!! (http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10423&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=20) read down about 15 posts.

Athanasios

cool, i'm loving it so far (just not the HD DVD lack of menu functionality). My tv will only accept up to a 1080i signal - is there a reverse pulldown feature in this player that will simulate the 24 fps?

the audio setup on this player is pretty damn archaic. So I have mine hooked up to a standard Sony 5.1 system that supports Dolby Digital and DTS. When I do the audio test in the player's audio setup, only the front left, front right, and center speakers register. Is this normal that this is glichy like this? And choosing 48hz or 96hz is kind of bizarre also... help! :D

Also, any tips for dealing with the neutered menu features on HD DVDs ?
It's been confirmed by an LG Engineer models prior to and up to January 2006 (I think that's the date) had the second HDi transport disabled (for licensing reasons) but if it was enabled it would work.

It's not known how to enable it though. I forget the details but check for post from me in this thread. I posted it in here somewhere.

And choosing 48hz or 96hz is kind of bizarre also... help! :D
It shouldn't be, check the manual for your amp to see if it supports 96Khz. If it does enable it, if it doesn't don't. I'd guess it does as the analogue feed will be sending the signal straight to the speakers.

My Sony STR-DB940 receiver supports up to 192Khz (maybe more) so I enable it, on my BH200.

Were improvements made to the picture quality on the BH200? I'm not complaining about the picture quality at all (though I can't decide if HD DVD playback looks better or worse than my Toshiba HD-A2). Just curious.

Thanks to you guys I now have a BH100 to go with my BD-UP5000. I decided for my bedroom that I certainly didn't need CD playback and all of the HD DVD menus, etc. and it seems LG has done a decent job of keeping this player up to date.

Thanks for the recommendations.

Any one tried to play National Treasure 1 BLU-RAY,the movie would just hang on the loading screen (bullet thing's) I then upgraded the firmware to the newest 080229 = 29/02/08 but no luck.I then tried A different Disney BLU-RAY (cronicals of NANIA) which played no problems.This is the first HDM disk that has not played in my BH100 :( ..... just to add that National Treasure 1 played on my Australian model panisonic BD30 with firmware 1.3 the newest avalable....

a couple questions for you BH100 veterans:

1. some menus for blu-ray movies are in mega slow-motion, almost like they're about to freeze up. was this fixed on the BH200? I have the newest firmware.

2. Does 3:2 reverse pulldown work on blu-ray and hd dvd movies?

hi i have a usa LG BH200 player and i download the hack file and put it on a cd and did the hack fine just on the player for it to be region free for standard DVDS. i followed the steps from the begining of the thread and even checked the region setting and said 0 but when i put in a region 2 disc from europe it still says disk error. i tried a region 4 disc as well and same thing is there something else that i need to do ?

After you ran the RMTM Hack. Did you check what the region is, in the system info menu? If that still says R1 it won't work.

What was the error? It could be because your TV doesn't support PAL. I'm presuming you're North American based? the RMTM hack doesn't enable PAL support, you need to use one of the EEPROM codes to do that.

Hello again. Some additional info from me. First, I checked if the player works with regA BD on a "live free or die hard" and it didn't work with wrong region message. so mine was definitely not BD region free out of the box. then I returned the disc and never tested it after. then I applied the RMTM hack, and received the "reservoire dogs" region A disc (on the cover it says region 1). it works, it dosn't work on a sony (region mismatch message). so it should be multiregion, but in the system summary it says - region 0 DVD and region B BD. today I received my 3 foxes - and they don't play (X-men wrong region message, the day after tomorrow and fantastic four silver surfer ask to download newer software. after changing the EEPROM from 82 to 80 BD region in the system summary changed to A, DVD region stayed at 0, X-men work now, but the DVD playback for region 2 has been affected (check disc msg). region 1 dvd work fine. after the update I will tell you more. cheers

what was your build date again?

Athanasios

a couple questions for you BH100 veterans:

1. some menus for blu-ray movies are in mega slow-motion, almost like they're about to freeze up. was this fixed on the BH200? I have the newest firmware.

2. Does 3:2 reverse pulldown work on blu-ray and hd dvd movies?

Can someone answer? I've also noticed that the audio frequently gets screwed up after you pause?

I havnt noticed that in a long time. But if it happens rewind a bit then start again that usually re sync's it.

Athanasios

I havnt noticed that in a long time. But if it happens rewind a bit then start again that usually re sync's it.

Athanasios

thanks - can you answer these questions?


1. some menus for blu-ray movies are in mega slow-motion, almost like they're about to freeze up. was this fixed on the BH200? I have the newest firmware.

2. Does 3:2 reverse pulldown work on blu-ray and hd dvd movies?

And now confirmation - after applying the newest firmware all foxes are playing (given the 80 in EPROM, with 82 they cause wrong region message on fox screen). the DVD region 2 do not play still (although it is region free for DVD when 82 is in EEPROM).

anyone else have glitchy audio in AvP: Requiem? It pops every once in a while, and it's frozen up twice for me..... I am running the newest firmware.. :confused:

When I played AVP 2 Blu-Ray it played flawlessly with my BH100 @24p, I have never experienced Audio glitches only Audio delay once....

When I played AVP 2 Blu-Ray it played flawlessly with my BH100 @24p, I have never experienced Audio glitches only Audio delay once....

Why would the audio be glitchy for me then? bad disk?

Thought id share a screen shot of my LG Bh100. Lg BH100>lumagen HDQ VP>Moome HDMI card for my 1995 Electrohome Marquee 8500 at 1080p48MHz on a 12 foot screen.

http://homepage.mac.com/nashou.66/.Pictures/Narnia8.jpg

Athanasios

Hello,

I have a chance of getting an LG BH100 from the USA which is missing the remote. I can source a cheap remote in the U.K.

My question is will the UK LG remote designed for the BH100 work with the U.S player as their model numbers are slightly different, i.e

U.S.A one is - AKB32293201

U.K one is - AKB32293203

(last digit is different)

thanks in advance

Neil

Is there some place where I can get a replacement cleaning cloth, like the one that came with my BH-100? Does anybody know what kind of cloth that is?

David

Hello,

I have a chance of getting an LG BH100 from the USA which is missing the remote. I can source a cheap remote in the U.K.

My question is will the UK LG remote designed for the BH100 work with the U.S player as their model numbers are slightly different, i.e

U.S.A one is - AKB32293201

U.K one is - AKB32293203

(last digit is different)

thanks in advance

NeilThe UK remote should work with the US BH100....

The UK remote should work with the US BH100....

thank you for your reply...Neil

You could also just get a Harmony Remote... They are fantastic, I've never actually used the remote that came with mine in the first place.

God I am so confused on the audio options of the BH100 with my Onkyo TX-SR605. I have researched online for how to configure both to maximize the best audio options available on Blu-Ray and HD-DVD and I need some input please.

First, my understanding is that I should not use audio of the BH100 via HDMI. When I do this via PCM/96 mode on the BH100 my Onkyo reverts to PLII status. I understand that the new formats will not traverse the HDMI connection.

Second, with an Optical output from the BH100 to the Onkyo I get great audio and the Onkyo registers either DTS or Dolby Digital when the BH100 is in Bitstream mode, versus PCM mode. I have no complaints on this front, but I do not seem to receive any of the new audio options like DTS-HD or DTS-MA.

Third, just today I have hooked up the BH100 to the Onkyo via two Front analog connections, a Center connection and a Subwoofer connection, as I do not yet have Rear speakers or the 7.1 side speakers installed. I can then go into Multichannel mode on the Onkyo, but I still do not see the Onkyo register DTS-MA, Dolby-HD. Those indicators have never come on under any configuration. All it registers is Multichannel.

I was not able to really hear any significant difference with PCM/96 out to the Analog connections, in comparison to the Optical out via Bitstream/96. Am I missing something? Is Bitstream inferior to PCM?

I feel like I am not really getting the best setup I can with my Onkyo, audio-wise. Any help or input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Mark

Third, just today I have hooked up the BH100 to the Onkyo via two Front analog connections, a Center connection and a Subwoofer connection, as I do not yet have Rear speakers or the 7.1 side speakers installed. I can then go into Multichannel mode on the Onkyo, but I still do not see the Onkyo register DTS-MA, Dolby-HD. Those indicators have never come on under any configuration. All it registers is Multichannel.


this is how it is suppose to show it, all receivers that have multi channel analog inputs do not display what formatt is playing because it doesn know, the player is doing the decoding, you will see it on the on screen diisplay when you hit audio or on the players display itself. This is how i use the formatts from the BH 100 also, I set it up for 5.1 out and use my 5.1 analog input on my Adcom Pre amp. Sound is way better than the Coax or optical and you get i think all the formats true HD, DTS MA ect.

Athanasios

I dont think you get DTS MA through the Analog, and we know we dont get it through HDMI ....

So how do I get the new lossless audio formats working correctly with my Onkyo and BH100? Is it via Optical? Or Analog (I just don't see how this could be the case)? HDMI does not seem to work.

Am I stressing for nothing? Is this really that big of a deal or a difference? Does anyone else here have the Onkyo and if so, have you seen it display DTS-MA, DTS-HD or DD-HD on the front display? I can only assume this must be related to the limitations of my LG BH100.

Mark

Ok I just checked Jumper BD and I get DTS HD on screen with analog outs to my Adcom and i went into the set up on the Jumper menu and selected DTS HD master audio.

Not sure if this is how it should look on screen or if it would show DTS HD MA? but before when I had a DTS HD disc it only showed DTS and the 5.1 under it i could not get it to show the HD next to the DTS and now it does. And I am sure of this because I wanted to see what the newest firmware did last time i changed it in feb of this year, I forgot what disc i used but it had DTS HD Master Audio and before i did the update it only showed DTS and after it showed DTS HD. not sure if this is the same as DTS HD Master Audio though.

Athanasios

Ok I just checked Jumper BD and I get DTS HD on screen with analog outs to my Adcom and i went into the set up on the Jumper menu and selected DTS HD master audio.

Not sure if this is how it should look on screen or if it would show DTS HD MA? but before when I had a DTS HD disc it only showed DTS and the 5.1 under it i could not get it to show the HD next to the DTS and now it does. And I am sure of this because I wanted to see what the newest firmware did last time i changed it in feb of this year, I forgot what disc i used but it had DTS HD Master Audio and before i did the update it only showed DTS and after it showed DTS HD. not sure if this is the same as DTS HD Master Audio though.

AthanasiosThis would be good new's if LG have updated the BH100 to decode DTS Master,Although I always thought the BH100 took the core of DTS Master(1.5mps) and output that through HDMI/Spdif. The BH100 does internaly decode DD True-HD, DD plus and DTS-HD for BLU-RAY only,and outputs these codecs only through 5.1 analog's untouched as well as LPCM, And core for HDMI /Spdif only. For HD-DVD the sound codecs are some what limited, DD true-HD 2 channel only for All output's or standard DD, for DD plus 5.1 analog only or DD for HDMI/Spdif , DTS-HD 5.1 analog only and Core for HDMI/Spdif....

So how do I get the new lossless audio formats working correctly with my Onkyo and BH100? Is it via Optical? Or Analog (I just don't see how this could be the case)? HDMI does not seem to work.

Am I stressing for nothing? Is this really that big of a deal or a difference? Does anyone else here have the Onkyo and if so, have you seen it display DTS-MA, DTS-HD or DD-HD on the front display? I can only assume this must be related to the limitations of my LG BH100.

MarkThe only way to get the lossles codecs is through the 5.1 analog out's, Coax Spdif can only carry up to 1.5mbs which translates to core only....

Or HDMI.

This would be good new's if LG have updated the BH100 to decode DTS Master,Although I always thought the BH100 took the core of DTS Master(1.5mps) and output that through HDMI/Spdif. The BH100 does internaly decode DD True-HD, DD plus and DTS-HD for BLU-RAY only,and outputs these codecs only through 5.1 analog's untouched as well as LPCM, And core for HDMI /Spdif only. For HD-DVD the sound codecs are some what limited, DD true-HD 2 channel only for All output's or standard DD, for DD plus 5.1 analog only or DD for HDMI/Spdif , DTS-HD 5.1 analog only and Core for HDMI/Spdif....

Your Correct, I am getting this using the analog outs. I do ot have a HDMI receiver so I cant test HDMI, but the 5.1 sounds way better than my Adcom just doing the normal DTS. Especially dialog, its crisp and clear.

Athanasios

Or HDMI.
No The BH100 does not output LPCM/HD codecs from its crippeld HDMI, only core according to the BH100's manual in the audio compatablity menu....

I currently have my bh100 going to my receiver via spdif optical audio cable. My receiver is capable of only dolby digital 5.1 and DTS. Will I get better quality audio if I use analog cables over the spdif optical audio cable?

I currently have my bh100 going to my receiver via spdif optical audio cable. My receiver is capable of only dolby digital 5.1 and DTS. Will I get better quality audio if I use analog cables over the spdif optical audio cable?

YES!!!!!! use all 5 outputs on the BH100 and then you can select he lossless formats in the menu and the BH100 does the decoding.

Athanasios

No display dimmer????
No display dimmer?!?!
No display dimmer!!!!
What is this? 1988 or 2008. :rolleyes:

No back-lit remote (I know people upgrade their remotes), no coax digital out (unforgivable; even w/HDMI), & no S-video out (I know: ancient tech); however we are talking about a unit that at one time carried a $1000.00US list price.

I'm happy I got one.
$224.95US at BB new.
It's "saved" my 75+ HD DVD's!
(got three more last night)
The fan is much more quite than my A-35 (it was so loud it MUST have been defective); Tosh wouldn't touch it so I returned it. Audio is as good to me as the A-35 (it's been a while).
And now I can play my BD collection (got two more titles last night)!

ENJOY!!!

No display dimmer????
No display dimmer?!?!
No display dimmer!!!!
What is this? 1988 or 2008. :rolleyes:

No back-lit remote (I know people upgrade their remotes), no coax digital out (unforgivable; even w/HDMI), & no S-video out (I know: ancient tech); however we are talking about a unit that at one time carried a $1000.00US list price.

I'm happy I got one.
$224.95US at BB new.
It's "saved" my 75+ HD DVD's!
(got three more last night)
The fan is much more quite than my A-35 (it was so loud it MUST have been defective); Tosh wouldn't touch it so I returned it. Audio is as good to me as the A-35 (it's been a while).
And now I can play my BD collection (got two more titles last night)!

ENJOY!!!

Your going to love this player!!!

Athanasios

Your going to love this player!!!

Athanasios
Thanks, I already do!

Forgot to add: touch buttons you can't touch & took three tries to recognize "LForDH".
On the plus side: its faster (load times) than my A-35, soft film-like PQ, & it's a HD combo disc player (huh!). :D

I got my 1st CD player in '88.
I got my 1st DVD player n '98.
And my 1st HD Disc unit n '08.

So, all of my digital player entry yrs have had an 8! :p

(fudging some; cause my 1st HD DVD player was in Oct. '07, however I returned it)

What is the Build date on a sticker in the back? if its early 2007 or late 2006 you may have a region free BD player able to play region A and B !!! and with the DVD hack on the BH200 thread you'll be region free for SD DVD too!!!! how about that for a multiplayer!!!!!!!!!

Athanasios

What is the Build date on a sticker in the back? if its early 2007 or late 2006 you may have a region free BD player able to play region A and B !!! and with the DVD hack on the BH200 thread you'll be region free for SD DVD too!!!! how about that for a multiplayer!!!!!!!!!

Athanasios

Feb '08
(update disc coming)
I don't own any non-R1 (except R0) SD DVD's.
Butt yeah; that would have made it an even more "Super-multi"! :D

And one more thing (hopefully):
NO ZOOM

EDitEDbyED:
Hey Athanasios!
We've got the East Coast/West Coast thing going.
Enjoy!

I just got my BH100 yesterday and I love it! It's supposed to have the latest firmware update from February installed, but how do I check to see which firmware is running just to be sure? Do you think a May 2007 build date would be region free for BD?

I just got my BH100 yesterday and I love it! It's supposed to have the latest firmware update from February installed, but how do I check to see which firmware is running just to be sure? Do you think a May 2007 build date would be region free for BD?

Welcome to the Club !!!! The info is in this thread somewhere.And I think in one of the downloadable documents where the actual frmwear downloads are.

Athanasios

Welcome to the Club !!!! The info is in this thread somewhere.And I think in one of the downloadable documents where the actual frmwear downloads are.

Athanasios

Thanks! I found all of the info here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13824485#post13824485). My BH100 does indeed have the latest firmware installed and should be region free with the hack. :D

FYI in case you guys haven't noticed, there looks to be a new BH100 firmware:

Firmware name: BH01080624A
Firmware date: 06/24/2008

Go to:

USA - http://us.lgservice.com/
Canada - http://ca.lgservice.com/
UK - http://gb.lgservice.com/
Belgium - http://be.lgservice.com/
Switzerland - http://ch.lgservice.com/

If your country isn't listed, go to: http://www.lgservice.com/

Then:

1. Click on DEVICE DRIVER, then click on DVD&VIDEO&SET TOP
2. Click the Search button
3. You will be presented with a list of BH100/BH200 downloads, the highest BH100/BH200 link in the list is the latest firmware.

bradavon, very nice post.
Thank you for taking the time to insert the links and the concise and accurate information you provided. All "older" AVS members should take note. :)

FYI in case you guys haven't noticed, there looks to be a new BH100 firmware:

Firmware name: BH01080624A
Firmware date: 06/24/2008

Go to:

USA - http://us.lgservice.com/
Canada - http://ca.lgservice.com/
UK - http://gb.lgservice.com/
Belgium - http://be.lgservice.com/
Switzerland - http://ch.lgservice.com/

If your country isn't listed, go to: http://www.lgservice.com/

Then:

1. Click on DEVICE DRIVER, then click on DVD&VIDEO&SET TOP
2. Click the Search button
3. You will be presented with a list of BH100/BH200 downloads, the highest BH100/BH200 link in the list is the latest firmware.

No worries :).

This time it was no trouble, as I'd already typed it for the BH200 crowd anyway. 99% of it is the same.

Okay, I've had the BH100 for a bit. It's been great, except for one thing it doesn't project 1080P picture only 1080i. I know for a fact my TV is a 1080P T.V. However I can't scrounge the model number it's one of the Panasonic Viera TH- series (which is a plasma) now I can get it to be set to 1080P, but it is to the right hand corner of the screen, as in only 1/2 to 3/4ths of the T.V. is covered, I heard that on Plasmas the BH100 doesn't project 1080P is this true and is there a work around?

it should work, there has to be some sort of control or setting in your plasma to allow it. It sounds like a timing problem with front and back porch settings of the built in processing of the scaler. A external Video processor would do the job but it will probably
too expensive unless you really want a great picture!

or call panasonic 1-800-211-PANA (7262)

Athanasios

Okay, I've had the BH100 for a bit. It's been great, except for one thing it doesn't project 1080P picture only 1080i. I know for a fact my TV is a 1080P T.V. However I can't scrounge the model number it's one of the Panasonic Viera TH- series (which is a plasma) now I can get it to be set to 1080P, but it is to the right hand corner of the screen, as in only 1/2 to 3/4ths of the T.V. is covered, I heard that on Plasmas the BH100 doesn't project 1080P is this true and is there a work around?The Bh100 does send A 1080p rez but only "1080@24p" the BH100 cant send 1080p@60hz so if the Fixed panel display does not support A 1080@24p input the BH100 will only send 1080@60hz. So by the sound of your above post your Panasonic plasma does'nt except A 1080 24p format....

Hi, I've had a BH100 for a while. It wouldn't play die hard 4 so I updated the drivers once with the latest drivers right after Christmans when I got Live Free or Die Hard and it wouldn't play. it worked fine. Now though, I'm having another problem (and have no idea if it is related to updates or what). My BH100 will play Blu-Ray movies and HD DVD's as it is supposed to. However, it will NOT play standard DVDs. When I put a DVD in the tray and hit play it will spin it like it is trying to scan the disc, but not move beyond this point. eventually, it says disc error and ejects the disc. I thought, hey this is a rental maybe it's a bad disc. But it started to do this to every disc, new and old and personally owned ones that had not a flaw on the disc. I would try to update but of course, I don't have the proper burning software to make the proper iso files or whatnot. anyone have any recommendations? either on how to get my player to play standard DVD movies or a good, (preferably cheap or free) burning software that can make the proper iso dvds needed to update? it kind of irks me that here I have this expensive player that supposedly plays everything, yet can only play the more advanced movies, not the less advanced, and have to watch my movies on my xbox 360 using a controller that shuts off every 20 minutes to watch most of my collection. If the solution to my problem is somewhere in this thread that someone knows, can you link me? I don't have time right now to sift through thirty pages of thread, Thanks.

I just bought a display model online for my dad $180. Hopefully it will be trouble free because he's pretty impatient about these things. I will only be able to make it home every 3-4 months to update the firmware!

Anyway I wanted to get him a BD player because I was tired of lugging my player over there so he could watch some of my BDs. ;) He already has an HD DVD player and about 10 HD DVDs (and I have a bunch) so this should work out well for him.

He is upset that HD DVD lost and told me he wasn't going to pick up a BD player until they got down to $100. I didn't feel like waiting until 2012. :D

I just bought a display model online for my dad $180. Hopefully it will be trouble free because he's pretty impatient about these things. I will only be able to make it home every 3-4 months to update the firmware!

Anyway I wanted to get him a BD player because I was tired of lugging my player over there so he could watch some of my BDs. ;) He already has an HD DVD player and about 10 HD DVDs (and I have a bunch) so this should work out well for him.

He is upset that HD DVD lost and told me he wasn't going to pick up a BD player until they got down to $100. I didn't feel like waiting until 2012. :D

Where online did you buy it for that cheap??

Someone correct me here...

the LG100 can decode internally all major codecs (except DTS MA) and send them via HDMI to any type of receiver (like a HTIB).

Where online did you buy it for that cheap??

Ebay BIN.

Does this player have the Qdeo video processor or is that only the BH200?

Someone correct me here...

the LG100 can decode internally all major codecs (except DTS MA) and send them via HDMI to any type of receiver (like a HTIB).

Mine shows DTS HD in the menu, I think that is DTS MA, they may have just added the wrong text, any how it sounds great out of the analog outs to my pre amp.

Athanasios

Looks like we lost a lot of posts. Anyway someone asked about enabling HDi. I think if HDi was enabled some discs would not play due to compatibility issues and because it was an unofficial hack, no one would be able to fix them.

Yeah this sucks ! I say we start a new thread for this stuff on another forum.

Athanasios

Hello,
i am an owner of the LG BH-100 and an owner of a HDV-Camcorder (Canon HV10) and I would like to know if there is anybody who was able to create a playable "Mini HD DVD" (e.g. with Ahead Nero ->4.7gb about 22 minutes) at the LG BH-100.

I tried but with no success.

First I have transfered ca. 20 minutes of my videocam per firewire with the Software called "D-VHS Transport Stream Capture Tool CapDVHS v0.3.0.6".

After that I get a video with the resolution 1440X1080.

Moreover I used the application Ahead Nero to create a Mini HD DVD at a DVD-R and the application said to me that the burning was successful/OK.

Than I put the DVD-R in my LG BH-100 and on my screen in upper left side there was shown the information "HD DVD" but suddenly after this the screen shows suddenly "Diskfehler" (Discerror).

I tried other DVD marks but the same failure.

Sorry for my poor english, I am living in Germany and I was learning english only at school long years ago.

i'm from germany too ;-) it is possible for you to create to small test iso to download? i will test it on my system...

OK,no problem....Today, there was a market for beer and they showed about 350 different sort of beer of about 13000 and I captured lil bit of one seller.

Bytheway,I bought beer of Lao,Australia,Tahiti and Greenland to try the taste. (Sorry for beeing out off topic)

So, I like to upload my video but I hope it is not forbidden to post the video here.

Would be cool if there is any chance that I am able to watch my own videos on my LG BH-100.


i'm from germany too ;-) it is possible for you to create to small test iso to download? i will test it on my system...

Mine shows DTS HD in the menu, I think that is DTS MA, they may have just added the wrong text, any how it sounds great out of the analog outs to my pre amp.
DTS-HD is the short name for both DTS-HD HR and DTS-HD MA. It's correct. Some people are choosing to incorrectly labely DTS-HD HR as DTS-HD :).

Hello,
i am an owner of the LG BH-100 and an owner of a HDV-Camcorder (Canon HV10) and I would like to know if there is anybody who was able to create a playable "Mini HD DVD" (e.g. with Ahead Nero ->4.7gb about 22 minutes) at the LG BH-100.

I tried but with no success.

First I have transfered ca. 20 minutes of my videocam per firewire with the Software called "D-VHS Transport Stream Capture Tool CapDVHS v0.3.0.6".

After that I get a video with the resolution 1440X1080.

Moreover I used the application Ahead Nero to create a Mini HD DVD at a DVD-R and the application said to me that the burning was successful/OK.

Than I put the DVD-R in my LG BH-100 and on my screen in upper left side there was shown the information "HD DVD" but suddenly after this the screen shows suddenly "Diskfehler" (Discerror).

I tried other DVD marks but the same failure.

Sorry for my poor english, I am living in Germany and I was learning english only at school long years ago.

Hahaha. Your English is better than that of many Americans. No need to apologize. :D

There are seventeen parts and I try to upload fast as I can (my upload speed is ca. 40kb/s).

p.s. I do not understand why I have to post 3 times till I am able to post an url :-/

Here is the ISO.....

http://rapidshare.com/files/138231134/Haus_der_131_Biere.part01.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138340061/Haus_der_131_Biere.part02.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138351273/Haus_der_131_Biere.part03.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138359815/Haus_der_131_Biere.part04.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138368179/Haus_der_131_Biere.part05.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138376534/Haus_der_131_Biere.part06.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138467650/Haus_der_131_Biere.part07.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138478339/Haus_der_131_Biere.part08.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138621265/Haus_der_131_Biere.part09.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138628769/Haus_der_131_Biere.part10.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138639299/Haus_der_131_Biere.part11.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138660543/Haus_der_131_Biere.part12.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138714858/Haus_der_131_Biere.part13.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138865442/Haus_der_131_Biere.part14.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138855152/Haus_der_131_Biere.part15.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138736287/Haus_der_131_Biere.part16.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/138716644/Haus_der_131_Biere.part17.rar.html

The upload is finished.

not the smallest one ;-)

ca. 1,6gb (8:31 min.) :)
not the smallest one ;-)

BB is letting their bh100's go for 199 so if anyone wants and can find one its only 1000 less than original retail

Thats a nice price.I payed 247 euro for a showing-room-model and I get the small rack additional coz it was the last player.I like to post a picture of the rack soon but I guess in america it was the same rack ;)
Here is the pic:
[img=http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9155/p1020192ws5.th.jpg] (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020192ws5.jpg)

BB is letting their bh100's go for 199 so if anyone wants and can find one its only 1000 less than original retail

FYI in case you guys haven't noticed, there looks to be a new BH100 firmware:

Firmware name: BH01080624A
Firmware date: 06/24/2008

Go to:

USA - http://us.lgservice.com/
Canada - http://ca.lgservice.com/
UK - http://gb.lgservice.com/
Belgium - http://be.lgservice.com/
Switzerland - http://ch.lgservice.com/

If your country isn't listed, go to: http://www.lgservice.com/

Then:

1. Click on DEVICE DRIVER, then click on DVD&VIDEO&SET TOP
2. Click the Search button
3. You will be presented with a list of BH100/BH200 downloads, the highest BH100/BH200 link in the list is the latest firmware.

the notes don't say much.
any info on what this update does?

BB is letting their bh100's go for 199 so if anyone wants and can find one its only 1000 less than original retail

I'd totally buy one if I found one...no luck in th past 6 months :mad:

I'd totally buy one if I found one...no luck in th past 6 months :mad:

Call thses guys up they might go lower!!

http://www.electronicexpress.com/product?prod_id=11026&refer=6&cpc=6

Nashou

Hey!

My friend at work has a BH100 and somehow he's got the disc he used to do a firmware upgrade locked-up inside.

He tried unplugging the unit & plugging it back in, didn't help. Any ideas? Would it be safe to assume the player is
toast since for some reason the firmware upgrade didn't work?

Is there a way to recover from a bad firmware load?

Thx-4-any-help!

Shouldn't there be a small hole where you can stick a paperclip through to pop the drive open? Most CD/DVD Rom drives have something like that...but I have not seen a LG 100 in a long time.

Have him try to Plug int he Bh100 while he holds down the eject button till it opens, it might work might not.

Athanasios

Thanks guys!

Hallo guys :). Does anyone know if there finally is a solution availlable to make an european LGBH100 multiregion for both Blu and DVD? Or is this already at dead end?

Yes out of the box my Australian BH100 player is region free for BD and DVD,
Do the research on this forum and you will find the info about it.....

Hi All

Just bought a BH100 demo floor model in Australia for $200 and have spent the last couple of hours reading through all of the above posts... very entertaining... especially the work on the EEPROM a couple of months ago.

So thank you to everyone who contributed as I now have a SD DVD MR player (Thanks to Julio's region code hack program) and hopefully with a Apr 07 build I am also BR Region free - have to try a region A disc to make sure.

Just wanted to ask if anyone has followed up the two broadcom IC's mentioned in bradavon's chat with the LG Employee and whether anyone has been able to enable Hdi? Is there another independent thread on this I've missed?

cheers

Hi All

Just bought a BH100 demo floor model in Australia for $200 and have spent the last couple of hours reading through all of the above posts... very entertaining... especially the work on the EEPROM a couple of months ago.

So thank you to everyone who contributed as I now have a SD DVD MR player (Thanks to Julio's region code hack program) and hopefully with a Apr 07 build I am also BR Region free - have to try a region A disc to make sure.

Just wanted to ask if anyone has followed up the two broadcom IC's mentioned in bradavon's chat with the LG Employee and whether anyone has been able to enable Hdi? Is there another independent thread on this I've missed?

cheers

Even if it could be enabled I don't think it would work with all discs without problems. Remember, even Toshiba's players needed firmware updates to handle some of the newer HD DVDs.

Hallo guys :). Does anyone know if there finally is a solution availlable to make an european LGBH100 multiregion for both Blu and DVD? Or is this already at dead end?

Mine is region free (BD)right out of the box, some say later manufactured dates are not. Mine was dec 2006 build date. Cinemads was region free right out the Box as well, not sure of his build date.

Athanasios

I don't own a BH200 and don't know how they've worked with Hdi...

but using a bit of lateral thinking...

If the firmware updates from LG have been improving how the BH200 has been handling some of the new HD DVDs then would it be too much of a stretch to think that the same updates could work on the early model BH100's with the two broadcom IC's to fix any potential Hdi problems?

I don't own a BH200 and don't know how they've worked with Hdi...

but using a bit of lateral thinking...

If the firmware updates from LG have been improving how the BH200 has been handling some of the new HD DVDs then would it be too much of a stretch to think that the same updates could work on the early model BH100's with the two broadcom IC's to fix any potential Hdi problems?

Wouldn't work because you can't flash a BH100 with BH200 firmware.

Is there any chance to get a playable homemade Mini HD DVD (at DVD-R/+R) on the LG BH100?

I don't see why not.

I tried several times but without any success.It is not working at mine LG :(
I don't see why not.

Hi All,

I've had my BH100 for over 6 months now and I've just had my first issue playing a disk. The Disk was Speed Racer (http://www.amazon.com/Speed-Three-Disc-Special-Digital-Blu-ray/dp/B001CD6FKS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1222637857&sr=8-2) that I ordered from Amazon a week ago. The Disk seems to read ok. It play's the WB logo, then I get menu loading symbol (the little coloured bars that co back and forth) and then a symbol of a Disk spinning then blank screen. All the buttons seem to function but I can't get off the blank screen.

Anyone else having issues with this disk or do I just have a bad copy.

Thanks
CamDS

Funny--Speed Racer was my first Blu-Ray try on the BH100. The EXACT same thing happened to me. It looks like there are a lot of problems with this disc and the BH200.

I have done nothing with the firmware and I've only watched HD-DVD's thus far. I promised I wouldn't use it as a Blu player until I watched all of the bargain HD-DVD's I've purchased. I got it off U Bid for $100 a couple of months ago so I was worried it was a blu brick. Its consolation to see someone else is having the same problem--hope the same goes for you...

Hi All,

I've had my BH100 for over 6 months now and I've just had my first issue playing a disk. The Disk was Speed Racer (http://www.amazon.com/Speed-Three-Disc-Special-Digital-Blu-ray/dp/B001CD6FKS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1222637857&sr=8-2) that I ordered from Amazon a week ago. The Disk seems to read ok. It play's the WB logo, then I get menu loading symbol (the little coloured bars that co back and forth) and then a symbol of a Disk spinning then blank screen. All the buttons seem to function but I can't get off the blank screen.

Anyone else having issues with this disk or do I just have a bad copy.

Thanks
CamDS

Do you have the latest firmware?

Do you have the latest firmware?
I haven't bothered upgrading because I've not had a problem with a disk before (including those that have required firmware updates previously)

I haven't bothered upgrading because I've not had a problem with a disk before (including those that have required firmware updates previously)

Well update and get back to us.

I've been reluctant to run a firmware update on my unit as it's been region free since I bought it (and I've got quite a few titles from other regions), but looks like I might not have a choice

I don't think that a firmware update will change region coding.

I've been reluctant to run a firmware update on my unit as it's been region free since I bought it (and I've got quite a few titles from other regions), but looks like I might not have a choice

Camds, I have the same early regoin free player as yours and have two non native region disc's and have all the lates updates and all play with no issues.

Athanasios

So has anyone with the most up to date firmware tried to play Speed Racer? My dad has this player so if it doesn't work I want to give him the heads up so he doesn't rent it. He still rents from Blockbuster and pays per rental. :eek:

I watched it on a PS3 instead before sending it back. I guess I'll never know...

You might want to recommend your pops to skip it anyways... eye candy for sure (the first half more so) but I can see why it bombed ;)

Hi folks,

it's a while I'm around, but I post first time now.

I have been using my bh100 since Feb, paid a fair 350 Euro then, and always connected to my A/V receiver onkyo tx sr606 via coax RCA for DD audio, then I have recently decided to exploit the HD audio decoding and connected the analog audio, selecting a trueHD track from a BD. According to the manual the bh100 should be able to decode the lossless audio format and output it to the receiver in analog 5.1, BUT...the center channel was clearly missing, i.e. no dialogues except from the two front speakers, and from them only as a "reflection" of the missing centre channel...

anyone with the same problem? solutions?

I have to say that I've upgraded to the last version of the firmware already some time ago.

thanks for any suggestion

cheers

indiana jones blu-ray freezes around the 57-58 minute mark on the BH100... anyone else have this? I'm exchanging for another copy, hopefully that remedies the problem..

Can anyone confirm if Indiana Jones plays with or without glitches, on your BH100?

I would but it is not being released in Australia until the end of month, sorry....

That sounds like a defective disc to me. Usually if a disc will play past the menu it's not a compatibility issue.

The US version of Indy played fine on my Bh100 awhile back.

But now I have bought all the James Bond flicks and all 5 of the movies play, 1 will not called For Your Eyes Only. I thought I might of had a defective disc so I took one set back to best buy and they gave me a new one... For Your Eyes Only still didn't play. Appears the Bh200 had same problem. I have the latest firmware for the bh100(6-24-08) and all the other bond films played except that one. I don't understand why just that one.

For Your Eyes Only:mad:
In both instances, the disc takes a while (somewhat longer than usual) to be recognized, then loads the red FBI warning screen and the next Fox disclaimer about commentaries, etc. The player then goes to black. It doesn't crash, and the disc can be ejected, but the menu never appears, even though the player says MENU on the front display.

For your eyes only is not showing that little grey progress circle before the menu should come on. All the others have that grey progress circle going.

Can you test your not working disc with an other player in any shop in your surrounding?Did you ask the LG service if there is any know issue/case problem about this disc?
The US version of Indy played fine on my Bh100 awhile back.

But now I have bought all the James Bond flicks and all 5 of the movies play, 1 will not called For Your Eyes Only. I thought I might of had a defective disc so I took one set back to best buy and they gave me a new one... For Your Eyes Only still didn't play. Appears the Bh200 had same problem. I have the latest firmware for the bh100(6-24-08) and all the other bond films played except that one. I don't understand why just that one.

For Your Eyes Only:mad:
In both instances, the disc takes a while (somewhat longer than usual) to be recognized, then loads the red FBI warning screen and the next Fox disclaimer about commentaries, etc. The player then goes to black. It doesn't crash, and the disc can be ejected, but the menu never appears, even though the player says MENU on the front display.

For your eyes only is not showing that little grey progress circle before the menu should come on. All the others have that grey progress circle going.

Read this:

I have word from an insider close to the source that the playback failure of 007 For Your Eyes Only is due to an authoring error - a corrupt JAR file that some players can deal with and others cannot. Not due to BD+, lack of processing power, etc, but rather a problematic JAR file. FYI for all those involved.

If you have an issue with playback, I found this number to report disc issues that should help:
1-888-223-2FOX

This is really starting to bug me now, Ive been trying to upload new firmware, Ive tryed 6 discs, with 4 different manufacturers - TDK DVD-RW, Tesco DVD-R, Tesco DVD+R and Kodak DVD-R. Ive uploaded firmware before, no problems, but this time it just goes to disc error with the DVD-/+Rs and check disc with the TDK DVD-RW. Please Help!

do you have downloaded the right firmware?
what happens when you are going to boot with your firmware-DVD-R?
This is really starting to bug me now, Ive been trying to upload new firmware, Ive tryed 6 discs, with 4 different manufacturers - TDK DVD-RW, Tesco DVD-R, Tesco DVD+R and Kodak DVD-R. Ive uploaded firmware before, no problems, but this time it just goes to disc error with the DVD-/+Rs and check disc with the TDK DVD-RW. Please Help!

HI:)

I'm a new member,from Italy.

I've a problem with the LG bh100 player and the "indiana jones and the kingdom of crystall skull" blu ray. I have the latest firmware (080624)

The player run the disc ,play the Paramount logo,but freeze at the language selection. Pushing the "ok" button on the remote (for select language) nothing happens,and a red symbol come out on the right top.

The bonus blu ray disc play perfect,and i've no problem to select the language.

Another bh100 owner has the same problem with the "iron man" blu ray,that is Paramount too.So i think that there is a problem with all Paramount blu ray and this player.I contacted Lg,but without result.
Anyone here can play indy 4 blu ray on this player?
I must wait a new firmware?
Any one have a suggestion?

Thanks for your help and sorry for my baaaaad English!!:)

Can you start the movie first and then change the language audio track to get around the menu problem?

Okay, I got the Firefly BD today. Discs 1 and 2 load and play just fine. But disc 3 loads to a black screen, and then that's it. No menu... nothing. Anyone else that has Firefly, does disc 3 play on your player?

Can you start the movie first and then change the language audio track to get around the menu problem?

No i can't,because in the language selection screen,any button of remote (like "play","menu","title") does not work,and (when i push one of them), in the top right appears a red symbol .Only "display" ,"numbers" ,"stop" ,"eject" and "arrows" button works in this screen.

It's strange that this same screen is also in the bonus disc,but there is no problem,and i can easly choose the language and go to menu.

No i can't,because in the language selection screen,any button of remote (like "play","menu","title") does not work,and (when i push one of them), in the top right appears a red symbol .Only "display" ,"numbers" ,"stop" ,"eject" and "arrows" button works in this screen.

It's strange that this same screen is also in the bonus disc,but there is no problem,and i can easly choose the language and go to menu.

I have the same problem with the same movie and the same firmware (The Bh-100 device was bought in Italia and the movie is the European version bought in Spain). Though already I have reported the problem to LG, it would not be bad that you were doing it also (again).
I´ve more Paramount's movies (European versions) and they all work fine.

So you suggest contact again LG,right?

What answer you LG?

Are you Italian?

Okay. Updated latest firmware. But still no go. Again, anyone else here have the new Firefly BD and had success on disc 3?

So you suggest contact again LG,right?

I believe that if we insist more, they will solve the problem in a short time


What answer you LG?

(03/11/2008 11:30)

Estimated client: Your consultation is being managed by the responsible department. To the major briefness you will receive a response. In case of doubt, please, contact with our telephone 902500234. Attentivly, Service of attention to the client LG Electronics


Are you Italian?

I´m Spanish

ok,i contact LG again.
have you contacted LG global website or the Spanish LG website?The first time i have contacted Italian LG website.
Should i contact again Italian LG website,or you suggest any other link?

Thanks for your help!:)

ok,i have just contacted LG,explain in detail our problem,and they answer me that report my issue to the responsible department

ok,now we must wait! I hope that a new firmware out soon:)

LG used to be regular with there firmware updates around one A month for the BH100 but it sounds like they may have droped off A bit and focusing there Firmware team more towards there Newer HD players...

ok,i contact LG again.
have you contacted LG global website or the Spanish LG website?The first time i have contacted Italian LG website.
Should i contact again Italian LG website,or you suggest any other link?

Thanks for your help!:)

I´ve contacted with LG Spain. Now I am going to contact with lg global too

Okay. I tried disc 3 of Firefly on a friends BH100. It wouldn't play on his either. I took the set to the store today, and it played fine on a Denon (I don't know the model #). So it looks like it's the BH100 that's the problem.

New Firmware update LG?

So I just got this unit to maintain my HD DVD collection, while being able to play my BDs as well.

How do I update it? Is there just a firmware I download to a disc?