I may have a possible chance to get a relitively low hour DWIN HD700 CRT projector. I have had a few CRT's in the past and have gotten away from them for a few years now and I just came into a project that could give me the opertunity to aquire a very lightly used HD700.

I used to work for a company before starting mine that sold those machines and I used to play with it back in the day. I thought it was a pretty good machine but there were obviously other CRT machines that were a lot better.

My last CRT projector was a BARCO 701s that was really quite nice. I sold it a few years ago and went to DLP which I am 100% happy with and have really no reason to change. I did see the new DILA machine JVC is comming out with and would buy it in a second when it comes out.

I again have a chance to grab this DWIN and am toying with the idea of installing it in my theater and seeing what happens. I dont use my theater quite as much as I used to when my projector was my main TV in my apartment and now that I have a house and have a dedicated theater room I think it might be kinda cool to have CRT again, I really dont know though if I want to go back to CRT set up again though.

Any way, according to what I read on Curt's site and a few posts here I see the HD700 will sync to a 720p signal. Thats what Im running my DLP at and want to keep everything the same. I dont want to run at less then 720p.
So does the HD700 run safely at 720p?

I know my BARCO couldnt do it and I had to run 1080i on it. If I have to on the DWIN then Im wasting my time and may just have to wait to go 1080p with the new JVC machine.

I have a DWIN 500 which is supposedly pretty similar in resolving capacity. I can just barely do 720p but it is a tad soft. These DWINS are nice, bright, quiet machines but really look best at closer to 480-600p resolutions. And honestly, there are better performing machines on the market right now for cheap. I'm personally in the process of picking up a NEC PG series machine. Sharp 720p-1080i96, color filtered lenses, and cheap tubes! Easily found for less than $500 right now. Another thing with the DWIN is spare parts aren't as abundant. Maybe some DWIN 700 owners will chime in on 720p sharpness.

Yea I know these are not the most popular projectors. I just remember when this place I used to work sold them for 25k. I thought the HD 700 looked pretty good with the transcanner but I have no idea if it was really pushing more then 480p as the transcanner really has no output setting for progressive settings if I remember right. I was planning on using my CS-HD scaler set to 720p and just redo the input settings if need be.

Im not worried about spare parts, if I do get the HD700 and it dies Ill just throw it out and buy a better DLP projector then I already have now. I just have this possibility of getting this CRT machine for very little money since this was a 20 something thousand dollar projector about 5 years ago.

I just figure it might be fun to see what it can do compaired to what Im used to now from my H77 DLP Projector.

A former CRT'er completely content with his digital.......

....but must delve back into CRT.

A scenario repeated all too many times here...;)

Cheers Vic!

Curt

Yea I got this bug up my ass I guess lol.... And I got this little deal in the works and I think it might be a something fun to do.

Of course if it works out I will have to completly redo my theater to get the HD700 in place and Im not so sure I want to go there since I just bought the house a year ago and the theater is completly done and looks great.

Yea I know these are not the most popular projectors. I just remember when this place I used to work sold them for 25k. I thought the HD 700 looked pretty good with the transcanner but I have no idea if it was really pushing more then 480p as the transcanner really has no output setting for progressive settings if I remember right. I was planning on using my CS-HD scaler set to 720p and just redo the input settings if need be.

Im not worried about spare parts, if I do get the HD700 and it dies Ill just throw it out and buy a better DLP projector then I already have now. I just have this possibility of getting this CRT machine for very little money since this was a 20 something thousand dollar projector about 5 years ago.

I just figure it might be fun to see what it can do compaired to what Im used to now from my H77 DLP Projector.

If it's a good deal go for it. Don't purchase it just because it once costed thousands tho. Every crt projector was that much back then (quite often more). Just the nature of obsolescence...thank god, otherwise this forum would be considerably smaller.

Curt

... and the theater is completly done and looks great.

No it doesn't. You have a digital in it. :eek: ;) :D

I recently hung an HD700 in my HT. It replaced an XG852 because I was tired of the noise of the XG, and because of heat-exhaust problems specific to my HT. My HD700 also has color-filtered lenses, which I am sure helps the colors a lot.

On SD DVDs (upscaled to 720p with a Momitsu v880N) it looks beautiful. Colors are gorgeous. The pic is very definitely soft. I'm not sure if I have it set up 100% yet, but it is definitely not as sharp as the XG was. I don't currently have an HD source so I'm not sure what that would look like.

It IS very, very quiet. You can hear the soft crackle of HV on the tubes louder than its very quiet fans. I run my volume considerably lower than I did with the XG, because I don't need to drown out the noise of the XG (and the very loud exhaust system I have).

If you're looking for razor-sharp images, this is not the projector for you -- no surprise, since it's an ES set. But if you want a small, quiet projector that throws a nice SD pic, it's a pretty nice little box.

Gary, Thanks for that reply....I do remember the HD700 being quiet and the sound of the HV crackle once and a while. I used to go sit in the theater where I used to work when they first got the HD700 and hear that sound. Its kinda cool lol....

I do remember it having a very good pic I just dont know what resolution it was running at. I guess I can try it at 720p and switch to 1080i, maby it wont look as soft interlaced?

The main thing Im interested in is knowing that it does indeed sync to 720p unlike my BARCO 701s wouldnt. Im not sure if the HD700 used the same Toshiba tubes or not, I do know that it dies use Toshiba tubes and that the BARCO looked awesome at 1080i. My brother still reminds me that that projector blew him away and he is NOT a fan of CRT at all. He's gonna think Im crazy to hang the HD700 in my theater but that picture was quite amasing and I think the HD700 can be a little better then the BARCO 701s or at least match it.

I just have to find the throw distance calculator for the DWIN. I used to have one. Im projecting it on a 92" Vutec Mate White 1.0 Gain screen.

The HDP500 uses the same T180 tubes as the 701s. The HD700 uses different toshiba tubes. Also the stock 700 does not come with color filtered lenses (which Gary has) so you would have to add these if you wanted them.

Vic, AVS member Steve Bruzonsky down in Gilbert runs HD-DVDs on his HD700. I assume he's running it at 1080i, but you could check with him. I'm sure he'd be happy to show it to you -- I was just down there over the holidays and he gave me a tour.

So Vic, gonna throw this one off a balcony and go back to your crap digital?

Steve B has a HD700? I thought he sold that house and bought some high end digital? I saw his HD700 about 4 years ago. I thought it looked pretty good back then...

I didnt get the HD700 after all. Somebody offered up over a thousand bucks for it and I wasnt gonna match or beat them for that projector. I figured for a few hundred it would be a cool score but not a few grand.

My Crap Digital is really not crap at all, it in fact has an amasing image. I actualy just hooked up my local HD this weekend via antenna in the attic and added 11 HD channels to me system. The picture is outstanding.

I never really did throw the BARCO off the balcony I sure as hell wanted to though. I did sell it and havent looked back. I was working a sweet deal and if it worked out cool, Id try the DWIN and see what I thought but as it didnt work out Im not interested in other CRT projectors. The DWINS are conciderably the newest of the CRT breed and any thing else would problably be from a conferance room with a bunch of hours onit and if it still worked well it will be a matter of time before it will break down. Then to go through the repair stage, forget it not for me.

I guess Ill wait a few months and concider getting the new JVC DILA. This machine puts an end to the need for 9" CRT projectors! It has a constant 15000:1 contrast Ratio. I was given a private viewing of it at CES w/ my sales rep and had a chance to talk to the engineers. It was an awesome presentation and the people at JVC know thier stuff!

I know you guys will still have a reason to say a 9" CRT will blow it away, and thats totally fine.

Vic, the post years ago re me selling my house and home theater was an April Fool's joke.

The HD-700 syncs 1080i or 720p just fine, as well as 480p. The HD-700 is significantly improved from the HD-500 because the former has better resolution and handles the 720p fine without strain.

As a custom installer, if you use your theater to sell products to customers, stay digital for business reasons. If you want the best pix then go CRT.

Vic, the post years ago re me selling my house and home theater was an April Fool's joke.

The HD-700 syncs 1080i or 720p just fine, as well as 480p. The HD-700 is significantly improved from the HD-500 because the former has better resolution and handles the 720p fine without strain.

As a custom installer, if you use your theater to sell products to customers, stay digital for business reasons. If you want the best pix then go CRT.

Are you saying you have no softness whatsover at 720p? You can fully resolve a 1x1 pixel field? My HDP-500 can resolve a 2x2 pixel field for 720p. 1080i however is more than the 500 can handle. I'm actually now running 1280x720i (yes interlaced) for hd and it has truly opened my eyes to how sharp CRT FP can be. :D

Update 1-23-07 I mistakenly thought I was running 720i when in fact it was 720p. I did test 720i though and the picture is unwatchable due to scanlines. However, after mastering powerstrip settings, both 1024x768p and 1280x720p at 45-50HZ are slightly sharper than at 60hz and above. Also, the DWIN 500 can do 1080i although it is very soft.

Are you saying you have no softness whatsover at 720p? You can fully resolve a 1x1 pixel field? My HDP-500 can resolve a 2x2 pixel field for 720p. 1080i however is more than the 500 can handle. I'm actually now running 1280x720i (yes interlaced) for hd and it has truly opened my eyes to how sharp CRT FP can be. :D

I only use 720p for 480i NTSC and native 720p HD and if you see my picture you will agree it ain't soft. John Gannon recently ISFed me. I run 1080i HD at the same resolution pass through. I use a Lumagen VisionPro HDP. Can it "fully resolve" a 1X1" pixel field? Well, if it don't its pretty darn close. Gannon is the expert in the whole world when it comes to setting up so many HD-700s and he can give the technical answers correctly. There was also a Secrets of Home Theater review on the HD-700 about 5-6 years ago which I think will give you all the info.

Thanks Steve. I read the secrets article a while back and they pretty much agreed the 700 was slightly sharper.

Steve, Hey I guess I missed that post being a joke lol since I know your a BIG HD700 advocate I couldnt image you going with anything but that DWIN.

Yes I agree as an AV dealer I should keep the digital in the theater to show customers, I do do that once in a while.

I was thinking of actually installing both units just for that purpose. To show DLP and to have a nice DWIN. I could easily do both even if I pulled the DLP off the ceiling and just demo'ed it on the coffee table when people wanted to see it, it would be really easy to do.

See now knowing the BARCO 701s I had was equal to the DWIN 500 tube wise, I now really want the HD700 because its the next step up in CRT's from what I had a few years ago and Ill get blown away by it all over again.

I know I could problably get into an 8" Barco 808s or something like that and forget about 7" machines all together but I really wouldnt go much more then an 8".

The physical size would be just too much for my room and estheticly it wouldnt work. Im definetly looking for a small CRT like the DWIN since I know its performace and what you can squeeze from a DWIN HD700 ( STEVE B )

I guess I can just keep my eyes open and keep thinking if I really want to revisit this CRT thing again.......we'll see

So Vic, gonna throw this one off a balcony and go back to your crap digital?
LOL, I was just going to bring that up :D Ole Vic posted some really hateful things about CRT in general and PRMOISED to neve rcome back here. It would be fun to dig up that old thread.

See now knowing the BARCO 701s I had was equal to the DWIN 500 tube wise, I now really want the HD700 because its the next step up in CRT's from what I had a few years ago and Ill get blown away by it all over again.
I guess I can just keep my eyes open and keep thinking if I really want to revisit this CRT thing again.......we'll see
vic the question you have to ask yourself is " am I worthy of owning another CRT after all the things I said and did ?" ;)

LOL.....................Yea yea sure rub it in........ BUT

I did wind up makign a deal and will have an exceptional DWIN HD700 in a few weeks

I read a post last night that I shouldnt have about accessing the service menu on the H77 I own and Oh Boy. It got pretty messed up for a few hours and I thought I was going to have to send it to OPTOMA to get streightned out. I wound up getting it all figured out and got it calibrated even better then when I first bought it new. The picture is amasing and I think Id like to keep both projectors set up, Not sure on that yet.

So I did wind up making a deal on another HD700. This one has the color filtered lenses and looks to be in excelent condition. I think this weekend I am going to start to make the preperations to get the wiring in the theater moved to the new loacation for the CRT since it will sit closer to the screen then the DLP is right now. Maby actually run a second set of RGB cables and leave them both in there Il lhave to see how that goes.




Ive been away from CRT's for a while and think it would be cool to have a good one this time around. One with less hours and is made distinctly for home theater. One that hasend been repaird once before me and 2 X since I owned it and one with 800 hours.

Ill keep you posted on the progress. . .

LOL.....................Yea yea sure rub it in........ BUT

I did wind up makign a deal and will have an exceptional DWIN HD700 in a few weeks

I read a post last night that I shouldnt have about accessing the service menu on the H77 I own and Oh Boy. It got pretty messed up for a few hours and I thought I was going to have to send it to OPTOMA to get streightned out. I wound up getting it all figured out and got it calibrated even better then when I first bought it new. The picture is amasing and I think Id like to keep both projectors set up, Not sure on that yet.

So I did wind up making a deal on another HD700. This one has the color filtered lenses and looks to be in excelent condition. I think this weekend I am going to start to make the preperations to get the wiring in the theater moved to the new loacation for the CRT since it will sit closer to the screen then the DLP is right now. Maby actually run a second set of RGB cables and leave them both in there Il lhave to see how that goes.




Ive been away from CRT's for a while and think it would be cool to have a good one this time around. One with less hours and is made distinctly for home theater. One that hasend been repaird once before me and 2 X since I owned it and one with 800 hours.

Ill keep you posted on the progress. . .

There are only three HD-700s in the whole world with color filtered lens. Mine.
One John Gannon owned. One Stacy Spears owned. So you have one of theirs.
And Gary Fritz who visited a few weeks ago has the other one. How do I know? Cause I setup the trade for all three of us direct with USPL lens at the time. HA!

I too have a HD700 that was adjusted by John (although I don't have the color filtered lenses :(). I have a beautiful picture running it at 720p and 1080i.

jkv, you might want to look into a set of HD-144Ns. I haven't seen an HD700 without them, but I can say the colors on mine with filtered lenses were just gorgeous.

Maybe you can find somebody nearby with an NEC projector who'd loan you his filtered lenses for a test?

Yea Steve.......Im getting one of those mentioned in your reply......COOL I think Im going to be very very happy with this HD700 then. Now Im getting excited!!!!!!!!!


I already listed the H77 on Ebay. Im ready to make the plunge back to CRT, this will be cool.


So I gotta ask? Why is it so special to have these lenses. Yes I under stand the color correcting aspect of it. My Sony 1031 had colored coolent and the NEC has those lenses. Why isnt it be a requirement for most of the CRT users to then try and get a set of these lenses? I would have to assume they would make any non color coolent machine look so much better. I was actually going to try that when I had my BARCO 701s. I just never got around to it. I was reading posts on using printer ink to color the coolent and thought it was pretty interesting as they were getting good results. Just not sure what the long term out come was on that and if it is even worth the risk to do.

I problably wouldnt mess with a projector that had minty white tubes and try and color the coolent unless it was with truly colored coolent which I know is just about impossible to find any more.

Im supprised there arent more of those lenses being sold on ebay. I guess there too damn valuable to auciton.

Vic, Dwin used 50 ohm audio cabling inside the projector. But if you're nice you can buy some true Granite Audio 75 ohm minicabling from me to retrofit your insides to ensure best picture quality. HA! Private Message me and come visit your Gilbert neighbor.

Steve

I have an entire roll of the mini cable......I use it all the time for AV installs. Infact I have a nice extra left over thats about 15 feet long.

I dont think I want to start modding the HD700 I really dont think making that short internal run with true 75 ohm cabel is really going to make a visable differance. I dont know, Im not an electornics engineer but Im willing to think DWIN used what would work best.

That kinda makes me think its the same differance between running 5 RG 59 cables or using mini 25Ga. RGBHV cable. I have done comparissons and there is no differance vissually, just in your wallet thats all.

I appreciate the offer Steve, Not trying to say your wrong and Im right. Im just not ready to start tweeking the hell of of an already good machine with low hours.

I already bought a new scaler so I know I can get the syncs correct since mine only has + sync and is not adjustable. I bought a left over DVDO Iscan HD+. I know that it can be adjusted like crazy! Ive used a bunch of HD+'s with DLP projectors and they have a S. Load of adjustment.

Steve

I have an entire roll of the mini cable......I use it all the time for AV installs. Infact I have a nice extra left over thats about 15 feet long.

I dont think I want to start modding the HD700 I really dont think making that short internal run with true 75 ohm cabel is really going to make a visable differance. I dont know, Im not an electornics engineer but Im willing to think DWIN used what would work best.

That kinda makes me think its the same differance between running 5 RG 59 cables or using mini 25Ga. RGBHV cable. I have done comparissons and there is no differance vissually, just in your wallet thats all.

I appreciate the offer Steve, Not trying to say your wrong and Im right. Im just not ready to start tweeking the hell of of an already good machine with low hours.

I already bought a new scaler so I know I can get the syncs correct since mine only has + sync and is not adjustable. I bought a left over DVDO Iscan HD+. I know that it can be adjusted like crazy! Ive used a bunch of HD+'s with DLP projectors and they have a S. Load of adjustment.

Whatever, but you really don't know near as much as you think. The minicable you have ain't true 75 ohm I can guarentee. Put it on a TDR and you'll find out - oh, do I need to explain a TDR? HA! Mike Parker did the mod for me with the same minicable he used (that I turned him onto) modding Mark Haflich's 9" Electrohome CRT. So I guess Mike knows nothin' either.

Vic, you're a nice guy. but you're a custom installer. You don't know CRTs. But you will luv the Dwin.

TDR = Time Domain Reflectometer, so there, and I didn't even have to look it up. :D

Oh boy, Im not even going to comment

..."Vic, you're a nice guy. but you're a custom installer. You don't know CRTs. But you will luv the Dwin. "

HA HA HA thats a good one.

Any way I was thinking it would be nice to have the DWIN install calculator. Does any body know where it might be archived? I looked on the DWIN site and all they have is the TRANSVISION 's calculator. All thats on the site for the CRT projectors is the Manuals.

If somebody has the program can email me the file so I can download it?

vraudio@msn.com

I really dont think making that short internal run with true 75 ohm cabel is really going to make a visable differance. I dont know, Im not an electornics engineer but Im willing to think DWIN used what would work best.



John Gannon, Stacy Spears and Mike Parker have all commented over the years on the advisability of replacing that audio 50 ohm cable with good 75 ohm minicable,wondering why Dwin would so skimp?

So if ya wanna argue with me you are arguin' with the best. HA!

That's why when Mike Parker retubed me earlier this year he replaced that internal cabling.

But Mike's a soldering expert. Unless you are, I wouldn't recommend it.

Steve,
I hate to bust your bubble but there is one more HD-700 on the planet with color filtered lenses and it's mine HA!.John has always ISF'd it and it's fantastic. John lives about five miles from me and we talk about my projectors performance (that I did not buy from John) and also yours and I ordered lenses also from USPL right after my purchase along time ago and John installed them and they made one heck of a difference let me tell you,oh you know already. What I also love about it is I don't have a fan whirrrring and distracting me from my viewing just a crackle every now and then. I have run mine at 1080i with my HD Dish reciever and it's gorgeous.
Highrez

Ole Vic posted some really hateful things about CRT in general and PRMOISED to never come back here.

He seems to not be a man of his word. :(

Dave

Steve,
I hate to bust your bubble but there is one more HD-700 on the planet with color filtered lenses and it's mine HA!.John has always ISF'd it and it's fantastic. John lives about five miles from me and we talk about my projectors performance (that I did not buy from John) and also yours and I ordered lenses also from USPL right after my purchase along time ago and John installed them and they made one heck of a difference let me tell you,oh you know already. What I also love about it is I don't have a fan whirrrring and distracting me from my viewing just a crackle every now and then. I have run mine at 1080i with my HD Dish reciever and it's gorgeous.
Highrez

Cool. What's your video processor/scaler? How wide is your screen?

Hi Steve,
I'm running the Transcanner II being sourced from a Meridian 800. When I got started I didn't go with a real large screen because I was new to front projection and I allowed my installer to do all of the "figuring" and I ended up with a small screen, it's only 67" wide. At the time I was so frustrated with the Faroudja 4800 (remember them the huge box that was junk?)that I just wanted a good picture and no trouble, the Dwin was recommended by the same installer that had installed the 4800 so this projector removed the egg that was on their face I got the 4800 through them. That's how I met John he had to come out and try to get the 4800 well and when it rolled over he tweaked the Dwin when it was installed and we have been bud's ever since. The screen being rather small does have some pluses though, it is a Stewart Studiotech 130 with electrimask.
It was nice to get my room back in comparing the 4800 to the electric screen that hides up in the ceiling. I asked my installer at the time why he went with a screen that size and he told me that moving the Dwin to a short throw and onto this size screen would give an excellent picture and I agree, anything that was larger than that 4800 screen seemed big at the time. Now I am thinking about going to a slightly larger screen a 85 wide. My room is the constraint it's only 12ft wide and my speakers Meridian 7000's will have to be pushed toward the walls maybe but I listen to alot of music too so I may just have to be satisfied because I have them set up great, my theater serves dual purpose.
Well I guess I have gone on long enough hope we can touch base sometime.

I dumped my TS2 some time ago and have had the Lumagen VisionPro HDP for a long time now and its fantastic!!! I have a Stewart Studiotech 1.3 Electrimask that's 80" wide. HA!

Steve,
I have a question for you. Have you thought anything about the high-res projectors and if so which would you go with? The hype over the JVC is slowly wearing on me and I really would like to see one perform. I am really leaning toward Blu-Ray in DVD players because of their fantastic catalog I hope they get the video right. I would also like their prices to diminish and the audio end of their players get a little better. I know there is going to be more improvement in the projector market and the prices have to come down. One day it will hopefully be much more for much less.
Greg

Steve,
I have a question for you. Have you thought anything about the high-res projectors and if so which would you go with? The hype over the JVC is slowly wearing on me and I really would like to see one perform. I am really leaning toward Blu-Ray in DVD players because of their fantastic catalog I hope they get the video right. I would also like their prices to diminish and the audio end of their player s get a little better. I know there is going to be more improvement in the projector market and the prices have to come down. One day it will hopefully be much more for much less.
Greg

I am getting the next 3-4 years at least out of my Dwin. I am quite pleased. I will worry about it then. I really haven't kept up unless I am lookin' for some component - as I retired from moderating here several years ago and actually try to have a life. HA!

Steve,
I guess that's it in a nut shell HA!

He seems to not be a man of his word.

Dave
------------------------------------------------------------QUOTE-----------------------------------
WHATEVER .......Dave





I saw that JVC at CES and am concidering it myself and more then likly it will replace my DWIN in about 2 years. It has all the picture qualities of 9" CRT Projectors as far as Im concerned. I even thought about why I wanted to put a DWin in myt theater at this stage of the game.

1 The price is right! HA!

2 I think Im just getting bored with the lack of activity in my theater other then just watching movies.

Since the Audio system is as good as it gets and theres not much to do to keep it all dialed in and sounding awesome, and with DLP you just turn it on and thats that I think Im only choosing to have the DWIN HD700 so that I can make adjustments to the projector after I install it and have to maintain its convergence to keep it looking good rather then just pop in a new lamp every so often.

Yes, I have seen proper set up DWIN's and of course that picture quality is definetly a factor as to why Im switching back to a CRT for a little while.

I think by the time Im ready to buy the JVC there will also be a lot more HD content available and the Blue Ray HD Vs HD DVD war will be over and it will actually be good reason to have a 1080p projector. Until then 720p is all the resolution I need.

Vic, Greg, or Steve...

Do any of you know if John Gannon will be in Arizona soon? I'd be interested in having him tweak my Dwin HD700. I saw Steve's a few years back and it looked great.

Dave

Dave,
I honestly dotn know. Steve would be the one I would think would know. Yes Steves looked spectacular.

Im lookign forward to getting my HD700 very soon. I want to see what I have been missing out on that last 2 years with the DLP I had. I want to see just how much better this CRT projector is over my BARCO I had before the DLP. I know DWINS are realyl good and one with very low hours should be sweeeeeet!

Vic, Greg, or Steve...

Do any of you know if John Gannon will be in Arizona soon? I'd be interested in having him tweak my Dwin HD700. I saw Steve's a few years back and it looked great.

Dave

Don't really know. I lucked out - Gannon just hadda stop to see Tim Martin's Blendzilla in Scottsdale and he was able to squeeze time in for me about six months ago. He's a genius like Einstein. Einstein was somewhat eccentric and didn't drive. Gannon is somewhat eccentric and drives and drives so fast he can easily pass you. I caught him with the promise of the best Thai food at a local restaurant and it worked!!!

Dave,
I honestly dotn know. Steve would be the one I would think would know. Yes Steves looked spectacular.

Im lookign forward to getting my HD700 very soon. I want to see what I have been missing out on that last 2 years with the DLP I had. I want to see just how much better this CRT projector is over my BARCO I had before the DLP. I know DWINS are realyl good and one with very low hours should be sweeeeeet!

Vic, thanks. But you were over I think like four years ago? I've got same projector, but changes since then that have substantially improved the picture. So you should PM me with your e-mail and stop by.

Steve (or Vic or Greg),
Do you have John's email address or phone number? Perhaps you could PM me or send to dave.milne "at" honeywell.com.

Thanks,
Dave

Steve,
Yea it may have been 4 years ago. Your right. But it looked really good then so what differance does it make.
Honestly it doesent matter to me how good your picture is because its in your room not mine right? I dont need to come over there and have you talk up everything you put into making that thing look like that becuase Im problablaby not going to do it in my install. You already have the impression I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT CRT as you so put it and that Im just an "installer" Im more then just an installer and my clients know that. In fact thats part of the reason Im no longer at that Mickey Mouse Home Entertainment. It only took them 2 years to relise I knew more then most of them there. Thats Why I run my own operation now. Im not going to argue with you about what I know Vs what you know. You already insulted me to some degree so I really have no need to see how good your set up is and that throwing money into a DWIN and modding it is why it loosk so, the way it does in your theater. Thats not for me.

I have completly redone my theater and some of the video electronics and feel I have high end enough components and with some work Im going to get outstanding results from the DWIN HD700. No Im not going to bring in Gannon or hire any one else to make adjustments to it, Im going to do it my self. I have been getting very good results with some of the material I use which have impressed some of my clients. With some time and tweeking I already know my return to CRT projectors was a good move. I would have never been able to buy a DWIN for what Im getting this one for a few years ago now that CRT has dropped in price to where we are at now. Its definetly a big step up in PQ from my H77 which was a step up from the BARCO I had beleive it or not. It just too bad that I didnt have a little more faith in CRT when I started to give up on the BARCO I had. If it didnt suposidly need as much as it did I think it would have been a great projector. I just dont think in the end it was projector it started out to be before the Techs got there hands all over it.
I know what to expect from the DWIN though and it being an un modded machine from the get go I should be good to go.

Dont take this the wrong way as its not meant to be a personal attack. I just feel your trying to make me feel like an insignifignat in the world of AV since my last name isnt GANNON or PHELPS. Youve never seen my work or my skill or my personal theater equipment for that matter.I get the feeling you think Im already on the road to a bad realationship with this DWIN unless I get some bigwig in to work some magic.

Steve (or Vic or Greg),
Do you have John's email address or phone number? Perhaps you could PM me or send to dave.milne "at" honeywell.com.

Thanks,
Dave

DONE

Steve,
Yea it may have been 4 years ago. Your right. But it looked really good then so what differance does it make.
Honestly it doesent matter to me how good your picture is because its in your room not mine right? I dont need to come over there and have you talk up everything you put into making that thing look like that becuase Im problablaby not going to do it in my install. You already have the impression I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT CRT as you so put it and that Im just an "installer" Im more then just an installer and my clients know that. In fact thats part of the reason Im no longer at that Mickey Mouse Home Entertainment. It only took them 2 years to relise I knew more then most of them there. Thats Why I run my own operation now. Im not going to argue with you about what I know Vs what you know. You already insulted me to some degree so I really have no need to see how good your set up is and that throwing money into a DWIN and modding it is why it loosk so, the way it does in your theater. Thats not for me.

I have completly redone my theater and some of the video electronics and feel I have high end enough components and with some work Im going to get outstanding results from the DWIN HD700. No Im not going to bring in Gannon or hire any one else to make adjustments to it, Im going to do it my self. I have been getting very good results with some of the material I use which have impressed some of my clients. With some time and tweeking I already know my return to CRT projectors was a good move. I would have never been able to buy a DWIN for what Im getting this one for a few years ago now that CRT has dropped in price to where we are at now. Its definetly a big step up in PQ from my H77 which was a step up from the BARCO I had beleive it or not. It just too bad that I didnt have a little more faith in CRT when I started to give up on the BARCO I had. If it didnt suposidly need as much as it did I think it would have been a great projector. I just dont think in the end it was projector it started out to be before the Techs got there hands all over it.
I know what to expect from the DWIN though and it being an un modded machine from the get go I should be good to go.

Dont take this the wrong way as its not meant to be a personal attack. I just feel your trying to make me feel like an insignifignat in the world of AV since my last name isnt GANNON or PHELPS. Youve never seen my work or my skill or my personal theater equipment for that matter.I get the feeling you think Im already on the road to a bad realationship with this DWIN unless I get some bigwig in to work some magic.

Vic, I was just kiddin' ya. We're all always learnin'.

Yea, I've done stuff that made this little Dwin sing much more than it should. I wasn't expecting you would do all that. You're not nutty like me. But since you got the color filtered one, keep the picture no wider than 72" to 80" and you'll have a great picture.

And you can thank me for your getting' a great deal on the projector. Your seller had several CRT projectors, and after demoing my theater he knew he could never get his to look like mine (HA!) so he sold it to you. But he had a real big screen and his projector lens to screen distance was off. I'm sure you'll do this right.

Steve

OK so I appologise for the little attack on ya, if you say your kidding with me, thats cool...

I think I got a good deal cause I was in the right place at the right time. Actually the person Im buying from which I wont publically out in the forum seems to know what hes doing and sounds like a nice guy. I dont think its because he couldnt get the dwin set up 100% and coulnd make it sing like yours. In fact I doubt any one else has a dwin set up quite like you do.

He is having a hard time parting with the dwin actually and is hoping he wont regret selling her. Hes got a NEC hes workign on that will replace the HD700. But if its becuase you scared him by showing off yours then THANK YOU!!! lol

OK my HD700 just got here and the 1st thing im looking at is the 50 Ohm Audio cable as mentioned above

ITS NASTY WHY O WHY did that use that?

Ok Im going in tonight and Im doing the MINI RGB MOD. I have about 15 feet of left over of ISOTECH cable Im going to use.

This is a very easy mod. Ill keep the MOLEX conectors and solder in the new video cable to the connector, should be easy.

Theres nothing in these PJ's except tubes and a power supply lol....

Vic, see? HA!!

Just so you know, the 75 ohm minicable that I have (got some left over from modding my Dwin) is the very best, per Mike Parker CRT modder deluxe who used it not only in my Dwin but more significantly in Mark Haflich's 9" 9500LC
and he was ravin' about it. Odds are that the minicable you got ain't speced as high HD bandwith as this one.

But so long as its true 75 ohm and hi bandwith, you'll be good!!!

OK my HD700 just got here and the 1st thing im looking at is the 50 Ohm Audio cable as mentioned above

ITS NASTY WHY O WHY did that use that?

Ok Im going in tonight and Im doing the MINI RGB MOD. I have about 15 feet of left over of ISOTECH cable Im going to use.

This is a very easy mod. Ill keep the MOLEX conectors and solder in the new video cable to the connector, should be easy.

Theres nothing in these PJ's except tubes and a power supply lol....

Vic, how wide are you golin' on the screen? 72 to 80" will give you the very best picture where you can reaqlly appreciate using the color filtered lens.

Steve
Yea my screen is ony 45 X 80 16:9 aspect

It should be killer.

Im doing the video mod right now, the factory stuff looks like SHT^&
I dotn care if it is suitable, it sure doesnt look suitable lol

You were definetly right about that Steve!

Vic

Ok here are some pics of the modded RGB internal's

As Steve mentioned the RGBHV internal harness SUCKS a$$ and I didnt beleive it until lI saw it. I had to do the mod after I DID say I didnt think it would be necessary. Upon physical inspection I aggree that that internal wiring is NOT VIDEO grade!!!! Line level audio sure, well even then I use better cable for that too.

So heres what my modded harness looks like. I skinned the outer jacket off ISOTEC 75ohm Mini RGB cable (25 gauge) as it was to thick and too heavy to try to work with all at one time. I found it easier to pull the 5 cables out do the mod one end at a time and then zip tie it back neatly. Ironically my cable lenght worked out to the same factory length.

Heres the link:
https://vraudiosystems.sslpowered.com/AVS%20secrete%20page.htm


Just got it mounted and dialed in...addded screen pics to link

My red bulb for HD700 blew, where can i get one.is it easy to replace....
thANKS
Manny

Now that is a lot of brass air fittings there is just about every type
of air fitting that you could want. Wholesale prices too. I guess these could be used as small water pipe fitting also. I
used some of the parts to make my babington wvo bu