View Full Version : Apple HD Movie Trailers look better than HD DVD


mattalgrand
01-19-07, 03:43 PM
It seems that Apple HD Movie Trailers at 1080p on my 32'' LCD through DVI look crisper and more HD poppier than HD DVD at 1080i on my Mits 1080p 65831 through HDMI.

I'm guessing one doesn't look better than the other, rather that because the 32'' LCD is smaller, my eyes are able to focus on and fully take in the entire HD picture.

Just wondering if anybody else noticed this.

RGBHV
01-19-07, 04:55 PM
well, what size is the trailer (in GB) to how much a movie takes up on HD DVD or Blu :-)

that is in addition the deference of the displays as you have noted.

Blkout
01-19-07, 04:59 PM
You're watching it on a MUCH smaller screen which hides imperfections much better. Period.

mattalgrand
01-19-07, 05:06 PM
That's what I figured. I still love HD DVD.

BuGsArEtAsTy
01-19-07, 05:14 PM
There are many, many more artifacts present in the Apple trailers than in HD DVD (or Blu-ray).

That is not surprising though, since the AVC bitrates for Apple trailers are fairly low, and I suspect that they are less picky when they do the encodes too, and use encoders optimized somewhat for speed as opposed to just optimized for quality only.

Dussander
01-19-07, 05:17 PM
The real metric is screen size over viewing distance. Secondary, is your ability to focus as well at certain distances.

I have a theory that many people need to get their eyes checked, maybe just for a prescription update.

(Note, non of the above is implying the OP needs glasses or why he feels the trailers look better on the LCD.)

ryoohki
01-19-07, 07:02 PM
Apple 1080p trailer are a shame of the use of the .h264 codec...

BuGsArEtAsTy
01-19-07, 07:09 PM
Apple 1080p trailer are a shame of the use of the .h264 codec...
FWIW, MS's WMV-HD trailers look just as bad.

ryoohki
01-19-07, 07:15 PM
FWIW, MS's WMV-HD trailers look just as bad.

Check the VC1 one... at 8mbits 1080p ... Apple have TONS and TONS of posterization , the VC1 one from hddvd sound and perfect site have practically none

Anyway this thread is not about who's got the biggest **** i just wanted to say that on my 2405 1920x1200 display, they look worst than HD DVD and BLuRay..

soncomet
01-19-07, 07:26 PM
Check the VC1 one... at 8mbits 1080p ... Apple have TONS and TONS of posterization , the VC1 one from hddvd sound and perfect site have practically none

Anyway this thread is not about who's got the biggest **** i just wanted to say that on my 2405 1920x1200 display, they look worst than HD DVD and BLuRay..
On my 2407 I can also tell that they look terrible. Absolutely horrible posterization. Even dvds are much better in regard to artifacts.

RudyMeister
01-19-07, 07:33 PM
Why is this thread even exist????????????????????

lyris
01-19-07, 07:44 PM
Yeah, the Apple trailers are much worse quality than anything I've seen on HD DVD.

RickD_99
01-19-07, 08:01 PM
Yeah, the Apple trailers are much worse quality than anything I've seen on HD DVD.


I respectfully disagree...I have downloaded half a dozen Apple 1080p HD trailers in Quicktime *.mov format (using the $30 Quicktime Pro package), converted them to MP4 format with a program called Yamb, and then transferred the MP4s to my PS3 wirelessly and the quality as seen via my PS3/Sony SXRD XBR1 combo is every bit as good as the best HD DVDs and BDs I have seen so far. Check out the Shrek 3 and Smokin Aces trailers in particular for some real eye candy! :)

hmurchison
01-19-07, 08:11 PM
Smokin Aces is going to be a high quality film. I could tell from the Trailer as well.

I don't think Apple's HD site is bad. It'll certainly be worth watching on my Apple TV someday ;)

skibum5000
01-20-07, 02:39 AM
It seems that Apple HD Movie Trailers at 1080p on my 32'' LCD through DVI look crisper and more HD poppier than HD DVD at 1080i on my Mits 1080p 65831 through HDMI.

I'm guessing one doesn't look better than the other, rather that because the 32'' LCD is smaller, my eyes are able to focus on and fully take in the entire HD picture.

Just wondering if anybody else noticed this.

i looked at a few a while ago. they seemed to generally be extremely sharp, sharper feeling than some HD DVD. but they were prone to massive banding and at times massive blocking in the sky too and other artifacts.

zappa2001
01-20-07, 04:12 AM
Why is this thread even exist????????????????????
More ******** posts, mods apparently won't do anything about. Every ******* that posts something about how HD-DVD is inferior in this area should just start getting banned. Period.

It's the same people over and over again. It's not like it's "Hey I'm having this problem here guys, what could be the reason?" It's just bitching about stuff that isnt' even remotely true if you have an ounce of knowledge trying to dig into HD-DVD. It's not allowed in the Blu-Ray area, it shouldn't be allowed here.

mattalgrand
01-20-07, 04:34 AM
Sir Zappa: Everything's going to be alright. It's just a thread. It's just the internet. Take a chiiillll, toke a reefer, relaaaaaaax. It's all good. Think about it. :cool:

NoThru22
01-20-07, 11:27 AM
People must have links to better quality Quicktime trailers than I do. They look fantastic, yes, but they still look like internet distributed HD. Meaning lots of artificats.

FreeBaGeL
01-20-07, 05:44 PM
The only HD I saw for a long time was on my 61" screen. One day I was in BB and started looking at some of the 32" LCDs and was surprised by how great the HD looked even though it was split a ton of times. I wondered over to the big screen section and it wasn't nearly as sharp because it was so much bigger.