Thank you for the reply. Checking it out now.

New issue of Perfect Vision is supposed to have a pro review of the BH100--anyone have access to a copy? Findings?

From The Perfect Vision:

PRO
Excellent performance with smooth & quick response to commands. Excellent picture & sound.

CON
Firmware update to HD DVD not possible on this model.


Recommended becuase of excellent picture in both formats & purchasing sends message to CE industry that consumers want both formats, etc.

saw the BH-100 at Fry's on the weekend and decided to take the plunge. I am getting horizontal flicker (on component out) on all BD disks viewed (Casino Royale, Ice age II and X3). Doesn't appear to happen on SD disks and I don't have any HD-DVDs to try. For the record my build date is Feb 2007. This problem has been reported onthe LG BH owners forum by others.

I am assuming the flicker is similar to what others are experiencing. It appears as horizontal band of brightness variation and is quite subtle, but very annoying. My parents and wife didn't notice it until I pointed it out, but could then confirm that it was not merely my eyes which needed servicing.

The flicker is very consistent, i.e. always present at the same points in movie, always absent at the same point. I have a few questions for those with no problems.


i) There is always severe flicker on the (nominally) black screen between the players busy logo (series of bars with pulsating colours) and it switching to the BD picture. Is this only on problem units or do they all do this? (via component)

ii) I cannot get my TV to hook up to the unit by HDMI. I have a 60" Sony KDS-R60XBR1. Anyone else successfully connected a BH-100 to this by HDMI. I suspect the TV has an issue and I would like to get it fixed before the warranty expires, but would like confirmation that there is not just a general compatibility issue. Tried two different HDMI cables, to no avail.

I am going to try and exchange it for another one today. Fingers crossed.

Ckelly. i've had mine since january and watch a movie evry night since then all fromats and have not had a single problem. I must have gotten one of the golden units made. Now watch me go watch a movie tonight and have something go wrong !

Athansios

Love this crt addiction i have !

BH-100 Flicker Part II
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Returned my first BH-100 and got replacement unit (both Feb build date). Immediately see flickering issue over component with new unit (on 1080i out), however magnitude was definately less severe.

Now the mystery deepens. I have three HDTVs Sony, Mitsubishi and Magnavox.
The flickering is bad on my 60" Sony KDS-R60 XBR1. No flickering on my relatively old Mitsubishi 48" WS-48513. Flickering again on my 15" Magnavox LCD HDTV.

There seems to be an interaction between the unit and certain TV sets. tried each component input port on the Sony including the one my HDTV cable box comes in on. Same problem on all. Tried using the cables from the HDbox again same result.

Since the unit is to work with my Sony through a component switching receiver, I guess I am going to have to go by a BLU RAY player which doesn't have this problem.

BH-100 Flicker Part II
---------------------------

Returned my first BH-100 and got replacement unit (both Feb build date). Immediately see flickering issue over component with new unit (on 1080i out), however magnitude was definately less severe.

Now the mystery deepens. I have three HDTVs Sony, Mitsubishi and Magnavox.
The flickering is bad on my 60" Sony KDS-R60 XBR1. No flickering on my relatively old Mitsubishi 48" WS-48513. Flickering again on my 15" Magnavox LCD HDTV.

There seems to be an interaction between the unit and certain TV sets. tried each component input port on the Sony including the one my HDTV cable box comes in on. Same problem on all. Tried using the cables from the HDbox again same result.

Since the unit is to work with my Sony through a component switching receiver, I guess I am going to have to go by a BLU RAY player which doesn't have this problem.


I had the same problem you are. Saw flickering on two different BH100's on two different TV's. I gave up on the BH100 and purchased the Panasonic player.
I thought the BH100 was a great player except for the flickering issue.

I've also given up on the BH100 due to the flickering and other issues. I really had high hopes for a combo player, but I guess LG just isn't going to be the company to pull it off. Maybe somebody else will step up to the plate and do it right. In any case, I'm expecting my Pioneer Blu Ray player to arrive at Magnolia any day now. :)

I've also given up on the BH100 due to the flickering and other issues. I really had high hopes for a combo player, but I guess LG just isn't going to be the company to pull it off. Maybe somebody else will step up to the plate and do it right. In any case, I'm expecting my Pioneer Blu Ray player to arrive at Magnolia any day now. :)

What exactly is this 'flickering' problem? I got a BH100 a couple of days ago, and so far I've had no problems with it. I'm currently running it into a sanyo Z-2 with 720p via component. 1080p projector is on order.

sticky

What exactly is this 'flickering' problem? I got a BH100 a couple of days ago, and so far I've had no problems with it. I'm currently running it into a sanyo Z-2 with 720p via component. 1080p projector is on order.

With the BH100 connected to my Z2 via HDMI>DVI, I intermittantly experienced thin horizontal lines flickering all over the screen, even on the menu and startup screens with no movie inserted. I had hoped a newer build of the player might correct this, but other posters reported the same problem with the newer machines as well. While I did not attempt to connect the player via component, I've seen a couple of reports of the flickering lines being visible on the component outputs as well.

What is the build date on your BH100?

With the BH100 connected to my Z2 via HDMI>DVI, I intermittantly experienced thin horizontal lines flickering all over the screen, even on the menu and startup screens with no movie inserted. I had hoped a newer build of the player might correct this, but other posters reported the same problem with the newer machines as well. While I did not attempt to connect the player via component, I've seen a couple of reports of the flickering lines being visible on the component outputs as well.

What is the build date on your BH100?

February 2007.

I am still planning to get one of these later this summer for my outdoor theater so hopefully by then they will be bug free. And cheaper...

Just a few initial impressions on the BH-100. So far, no issues with video with either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray with HD2 720p FP on 110" screen. The PS-3 Blu-Ray might have been a tad better but not enough for me to notice. There have been minor lip synch issues which I've been ignoring for the moment. DVD playback is adequate, not great; I prefer the PQ from my current DVD player. Not surprising, this is an opinion shared by another owner of my current DVD player.

The analog audio was an important consideration. My system includes a multichannel preamp/switcher and no HDMI-capable preamp/processor so I was very interested in it's analog output. I was quite impressed with the quality of the DTS HD MA and uncompressed LPCM outputs; however, something in the setup was causing the protection circuits in my (400W amp for Front L/R) to kick in at relatively modest (for me) volume levels. When I finally connected the digital input to my current preamp/processor to A/B DTS HD MA from the player vs. DTS from my current pre/pro, I was able to get the visceral impact from (perhaps excessive?) high volume audio with plain jane DTS than whereas attempts to duplicate this visceral impact consistently resulted in the amp "crying uncle" with DTS HD MA, TrueHD, or uncompressed PCM from the player's analog outputs. (A/B source was "Flyboys").


This looks to me like a probable player firmware/hardware issue but it might be something peculiar to my system ; I need to check out this player on another system; I've yet to see any complaints about the BH-100's analog audio performance but maybe I'm not the only one to notice this.

I was quite impressed with the quality of the DTS HD MA and uncompressed LPCM outputs; however, something in the setup was causing the protection circuits in my (400W amp for Front L/R) to kick in at relatively modest (for me) volume levels. When I finally connected the digital input to my current preamp/processor to A/B DTS HD MA from the player vs. DTS from my current pre/pro, I was able to get the visceral impact from (perhaps excessive?) high volume audio with plain jane DTS than whereas attempts to duplicate this visceral impact consistently resulted in the amp "crying uncle" with DTS HD MA, TrueHD, or uncompressed PCM from the player's analog outputs. (A/B source was "Flyboys").
I wonder if it's a high frequency tone of some kind that you can't hear. Have you tried connecting the LG up to something with VU meters on it?

I didn't think the BH100 could decode TrueHD.

I didn't think the BH100 could decode TrueHD. Are you sure it does Oscar ?

The BH100 decodes TrueHD but only to two (2) channel mode. A buddy of mine thinks even in 2 channel mode, True HD sounds great; his caveat is he currently doesn't have a center channel so he's been running 5.1 in phantom center mode.

I miss the surrounds when I go to TrueHD, but maybe it would be more tolerable if I could crank the volume.

The analog audio was an important consideration. My system includes a multichannel preamp/switcher and no HDMI-capable preamp/processor so I was very interested in it's analog output. I was quite impressed with the quality of the DTS HD MA and uncompressed LPCM outputs; however, something in the setup was causing the protection circuits in my (400W amp for Front L/R) to kick in at relatively modest (for me) volume levels. When I finally connected the digital input to my current preamp/processor to A/B DTS HD MA from the player vs. DTS from my current pre/pro, I was able to get the visceral impact from (perhaps excessive?) high volume audio with plain jane DTS than whereas attempts to duplicate this visceral impact consistently resulted in the amp "crying uncle" with DTS HD MA, TrueHD, or uncompressed PCM from the player's analog outputs. (A/B source was "Flyboys").


This looks to me like a probable player firmware/hardware issue but it might be something peculiar to my system ; I need to check out this player on another system; I've yet to see any complaints about the BH-100's analog audio performance but maybe I'm not the only one to notice this.

Hi Oscar,

I'm using the analog outputs in my system as well. I haven't had any problems so far, other than I have to really crank my volume level way up compared to standard DVD's going through a TOS link. But even at high levels, I haven't had any issues with my main amplifiers (Parasound Halo JC-1 monoblocks). Since we can only get the uncompressed DD+ stuff out of the analog outputs, I wonder if something is going screwy for you there. Did your protection kick in on ALL your disks? Or just "Flyboys"? Did you try selecting some of the other audio options?

Hi Oscar,

I'm using the analog outputs in my system as well. I haven't had any problems so far, other than I have to really crank my volume level way up compared to standard DVD's going through a TOS link. But even at high levels, I haven't had any issues with my main amplifiers (Parasound Halo JC-1 monoblocks). Since we can only get the uncompressed DD+ stuff out of the analog outputs, I wonder if something is going screwy for you there. Did your protection kick in on ALL your disks? Or just "Flyboys"? Did you try selecting some of the other audio options?

I'm using the Coaxial digital output, the analog preamp volume control has to go much higher when I used coax digital ouput then when using the BH-100s analog outputs; seems my BH100s "baseline" analog output is much higher than going via coax; which seems completely opposite from your unit. I haven't tried the optical link but that will provide another datapoint.

It's happening on all of them when I try DTS HD MA, TrueHD or uncompressed LPCM (discs used so far include "Flyboys", "Casino Royale", "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen"). I don't recall an issue with DD+ using the analog outputs but I'll re-test this (and DTS HD HR) tonight (with "Stargate", "Children of Men", "Batman Begins". In the meantime, I'll try out out a few other "samples" but the "sampling" is burning a large hole in my wallet at $30/pop. Now I've listed my complete HD-DVD/Blu-Ray library to date.

Couldn't hurt to try out a different BH-100; I hope the dealer will be accommodating....(maybe you can help plead my case ).

I'm using the Coaxial digital output, the analog preamp volume control has to go much higher when I used coax digital ouput then when using the BH-100s analog outputs; seems my BH100s "baseline" analog output is much higher than going via coax; which seems completely opposite from your unit. I haven't tried the optical link but that will provide another datapoint.

It's happening on all of them when I try DTS HD MA, TrueHD or uncompressed LPCM (discs used so far include "Flyboys", "Casino Royale", "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen"). I don't recall an issue with DD+ using the analog outputs but I'll re-test this (and DTS HD HR) tonight (with "Stargate", "Children of Men", "Batman Begins". In the meantime, I'll try out out a few other "samples" but the "sampling" is burning a large hole in my wallet at $30/pop. Now I've listed my complete HD-DVD/Blu-Ray library to date.

Couldn't hurt to try out a different BH-100; I hope the dealer will be accommodating....(maybe you can help plead my case ).

I watched 'Children of Men' a couple of nights ago. I had no problems.

You're correct that it sounds like our units are behaving the exact opposite on the analog outputs. I wonder if there's a user setting for the analog output level? It sounds like maybe your unit is overdriving.

I'm sending you a PM.

I use the analog outs as well and find i have to turn my volume setting way down as well. I wonder what the Voltage out is from the analogs in real measuments not from what the specs say. Rutgar what manufacture date is yours? maybe it has to do with that, the december models seem to be a bit different that the later models. just a thought.

Athanasios

I use the analog outs as well and find i have to turn my volume setting way down as well. I wonder what the Voltage out is from the analogs in real measuments not from what the specs say. Rutgar what manufacture date is yours? maybe it has to do with that, the december models seem to be a bit different that the later models. just a thought.

Athanasios

My unit is a February 2007 build. Last night I connected the digital audio link as well, in order to compare. On my unit, switching between analog and digital has no difference in loudness.

I have the February build; same lot as Rutgar. I know someone with a January build; I could try that one or a different unit (if they haven't already sold out on them).

I had changed some audio option from 48 to 96Khz (not sure what this was supposed to do), maybe I'll switch back and see what happens; maybe there's some high frequency noise as someone alluded to. It took a while longer and at higher volume levels but I did get DD+ and DTS HD HR to trigger the protection circuits as well, but at least I was approaching "lose my hearing" volume levels.

Could be the amp's protection circuit is "oversensitive" to noise from the player ?, BH-100's analog output is clipping ? or my room is too big (26x19) to expect the amp to handle high volume and high transients ? But than again, I haven't had many issues with high resolution SACD and DVD-A audio with a different player.

BTW, even at "reasonable" listening levels, I'm growing quite used to uncompressed/lossless audio.

I set my unit to 96Khz. But I believe your receiver has to be able to handle the higher bit rate. But I don't believe that has anything to do with the analog out (maybe someone can chime in on this).

Like I said, the volume levels are practicly identical between my analog out vs. my digital out, when I switch back and forth.

Oscar, does everything appear to operate correctly when you're using the digital coax out (amps, etc.)?

I set my unit to 96Khz. But I believe your receiver has to be able to handle the higher bit rate. But I don't believe that has anything to do with the analog out (maybe someone can chime in on this).

Like I said, the volume levels are practicly identical between my analog out vs. my digital out, when I switch back and forth.

Oscar, does everything appear to operate correctly when you're using the digital coax out (amps, etc.)?

I wouldn't expect the 48/96Khz to have an influence other than for the digital audio PCM stream over HDMI, Coax or toslink. It's a long shot but it might have screwed up the internal decoding for the player.

I'm using coax (I could use optical) for digital audio to the (non-HDMI capable) preamp/processor for DD/DTS decoding. The HT continues to work normally (and loudly) for DD/DTS applications via the digital. I need the BH-100 analog audio outputs for DD+, TrueHD, DTS HD MA, and uncompressed LPCM and that's where the issues come in (though much less so with DD+ and DTS HD HR). I tried swapping cables and analog preamp "multichannel" banks but that didn't help.

For "normal" listening levels, there isn't an issue. But I (and I suspect a lot of HT nuts) like it loud on action sequences. Having the amp kick out as soon as you hear the aircraft engines rumble on "Flyboys" is most annoying.

I wouldn't expect the 48/96Khz to have an influence other than for the digital audio PCM stream over HDMI, Coax or toslink. It's a long shot but it might have screwed up the internal decoding for the player.

I'm using coax (I could use optical) for digital audio to the (non-HDMI capable) preamp/processor for DD/DTS decoding. The HT continues to work normally (and loudly) for DD/DTS applications via the digital. I need the BH-100 analog audio outputs for DD+, TrueHD, DTS HD MA, and uncompressed LPCM and that's where the issues come in (though much less so with DD+ and DTS HD HR). I tried swapping cables and analog preamp "multichannel" banks but that didn't help.

For "normal" listening levels, there isn't an issue. But I (and I suspect a lot of HT nuts) like it loud on action sequences. Having the amp kick out as soon as you hear the aircraft engines rumble on "Flyboys" is most annoying.


Okay, I think I'm getting confused. Let me make sure I've got this straight... You're saying that the problem IS the same, no matter whether you use the analog or digital output?

Okay, I think I'm getting confused. Let me make sure I've got this straight... You're saying that the problem IS the same, no matter whether you use the analog or digital output?


No. I have no issues with the digital coax output to the pre/pro. The digital link will only support DD/DTS and a limited PCM bit rate (2 channel 24/96 for DAD audio works). The digital link will not work for DDplus/DTS HD or uncompressed 5.1 LPCM. I'd need an HDMI-capable receiver/prepro for this (and I'm not even sure any current units will support DTS HD MA decoding); such a unit I don't play on procuring anytime soon; maybe never.

I.e. DDplus, DTS HD (MA and HR), TrueHD, and uncompressed 5.1 PCM are only available to me via the BH-100 analog outputs. This is where I have issues.

My current thinking is the hi-end audio industry still has the "jitters" over how to properly implement (if possible), the high resolution audio bit rates allegedly supported by HDMI. IF I only have one source for hi-rez audio, I can forgo the need for a new pre/pro and continue to use an analog multichannel preamp coupled with a good HD movie source player using it's analog outputs. Eventually, I'd want to replace the LG with a 7.1 analog output, truly balanced, tubed Super-universal player (but this will never happen nor would I be able to afford it).

I was really close to purchasing the LG combo player, but as I read this forum I realized that the HD-DVD implementation might be lacking, so I decided to save some money and simply get a PS-3. If I find some must-have titles only available on HD-DVD, I can go out and buy an HD-DVD player and I will still have payed less than the current cost of the LG. At least this way I can start enjoying Blu-ray titles.

I was really close to purchasing the LG combo player, but as I read this forum I realized that the HD-DVD implementation might be lacking, so I decided to save some money and simply get a PS-3. If I find some must-have titles only available on HD-DVD, I can go out and buy an HD-DVD player and I will still have payed less than the current cost of the LG. At least this way I can start enjoying Blu-ray titles.


The second generation will have this feature. The service port on the back is a RJ-45 connector....................

The second generation will have this feature. ......


How do you know this?


Athanasios

How do you know this?


Athanasios

I know they are disabled on this generation.....

LG Posted Firmware Update By CD on Web:

LG has posted a new firmware update (later than January build) that can be installed on a DVD and will update your firmware.
The new firmware version is BH01070308A/PKG114.
This firmware is described as "...improvement of performance."
Quote: "Applying program for March MP." I can only guess that this might mean a "March" firmware upgrade.

1. Go to the lge home page, support, and search for bh100 downloads.
(note: I am not allowed to post the link by this forum. The LG web pages are flakey).
2. Download the ROM package, the .bin file, and the PDF instruction. READ IT, PRINT IT, AND FOLLOW IT! (yeah, I am shouting)
3. The ROM and .bin files are zip files, and the instruction is a .pdf file. Unzip the zips.
4. Rename the ROM file according to the instructions.
5. Copy that renamed file and the .bin file to a blank DVD (NOT a CD of course).
6. The DVD disk label can be whatever you wish.
7. Make sure the two files burned to the disk are in the root directory of the DVD.
8. Shove the new disk into the BH100, hit play, follow the instructions, and follow the fun.
9. BE PATIENT! Obviously one must not interrupt the update process.
10.When the update is complete the BH100 will spit out the disk, and it will shut down.
11.The update is NOT completed until #10 has occured.
12.Put in a movie and watch TV.

Note: During the upgrade you will see progress of the update on the BH100 screen (not the TV)

The reason that I posted the instructions here is because whoever wrote these instructions seems to have a real problem grappling with the English language.

Finally as people know, I emphasize that this upgrade is easy, but it is NOT for the faint of heart. I would assume that any deviation from the instructions, any file corruption, or any interruption of the update process might sink the good ship LG BH 100 necessitating a return to the factory. I take no responsibility for any problems; All I have done is rephrase the instructions.

I did it. It works. As of yet I have not seen any differences in performance, but I just completed the upgrade a short time ago. And no, it does not add HD-DVD features or audio specifications. I have been told that these would be HARDWARE upgrades if ithey ever were to occur.

Good luck!

Wow! I'm glad I have a February build (so I believe I already should have this firmware version installed).

I don't have a DVD burner in my PC. I do have a stand alone DVD Player/Burner, so I suppose I would be able to copy the files to that if I had to.

Wow! I'm glad I have a February build (so I believe I already should have this firmware version installed).

I don't have a DVD burner in my PC. I do have a stand alone DVD Player/Burner, so I suppose I would be able to copy the files to that if I had to.

Rutgar, do me a favor. Please check your February firmware version and post it here. I think that the one that I posted is a later version. I presume that you know how to check your version, but if you don't, here is the drill:

With your remote go to Setup>TV Aspect>Select 16:9> then hit 1 3 9 7 1 3 9>Enter.

This will show you your firmware version on the TV. Sure, copying the files to a DVD with a burner is the way to do it. However I don't know how you can do it with a stand alone burner. I don't know how you can get the files onto the DVD!

Thanks!

Rutgar, do me a favor. Please check your February firmware version and post it here. I think that the one that I posted is a later version. I presume that you know how to check your version, but if you don't, here is the drill:

With your remote go to Setup>TV Aspect>Select 16:9> then hit 1 3 9 7 1 3 9>Enter.

This will show you your firmware version on the TV. Sure, copying the files to a DVD with a burner is the way to do it. However I don't know how you can do it with a stand alone burner. I don't know how you can get the files onto the DVD!

Thanks!

My version is different from the one you posted.

BH01070115A/PKG114

Looks like this is older than the one you posted about. That is, if a larger number means a later version.

LG Posted Firmware Update By CD on Web:

LG has posted a new firmware update (later than January build) that can be installed on a DVD and will update your firmware.
The new firmware version is BH01070308A/PKG114.
This firmware is described as "...improvement of performance."
Quote: "Applying program for March MP." I can only guess that this might mean a "March" firmware upgrade.

1. Go to the lge home page, support, and search for bh100 downloads.
(note: I am not allowed to post the link by this forum. The LG web pages are flakey).
2. Download the ROM package, the .bin file, and the PDF instruction. READ IT, PRINT IT, AND FOLLOW IT! (yeah, I am shouting)
3. The ROM and .bin files are zip files, and the instruction is a .pdf file. Unzip the zips.
4. Rename the ROM file according to the instructions.
5. Copy that renamed file and the .bin file to a blank DVD (NOT a CD of course).
6. The DVD disk label can be whatever you wish.
7. Make sure the two files burned to the disk are in the root directory of the DVD.
8. Shove the new disk into the BH100, hit play, follow the instructions, and follow the fun.
9. BE PATIENT! Obviously one must not interrupt the update process.
10.When the update is complete the BH100 will spit out the disk, and it will shut down.
11.The update is NOT completed until #10 has occured.
12.Put in a movie and watch TV.

Note: During the upgrade you will see progress of the update on the BH100 screen (not the TV)

The reason that I posted the instructions here is because whoever wrote these instructions seems to have a real problem grappling with the English language.

Finally as people know, I emphasize that this upgrade is easy, but it is NOT for the faint of heart. I would assume that any deviation from the instructions, any file corruption, or any interruption of the update process might sink the good ship LG BH 100 necessitating a return to the factory. I take no responsibility for any problems; All I have done is rephrase the instructions.

I did it. It works. As of yet I have not seen any differences in performance, but I just completed the upgrade a short time ago. And no, it does not add HD-DVD features or audio specifications. I have been told that these would be HARDWARE upgrades if ithey ever were to occur.

Good luck!

Thanks for the info. I've managed to avoid having to burn DVDs. What DVD format did you use (e.g. DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW, DVD+R) ? Will it matter for the LG ?

thx

My version is different from the one you posted.

BH01070115A/PKG114

Looks like this is older than the one you posted. That is, if a larger number means a later version.

Larger number = later version. You might want to consider the upgrade.
Thanks for posting the February build. The February build is the SAME as the January build.

I would love to post the link, but until my fifth post, I was not allowed to do that... something about spam... I don't know how that would prevent spamming (spammers should be skinned alive); if I wanted to spam, all I would have to do is wait until I had satisfied the fifth post limit!

Furthermore the links are quite unstable from LG, at least for what I was trying to download. I got lucky.

So, it appears that the firmware is being upgraded often, at least for now; January is older than December, February is the same as January, and my downloaded build is later than February! Maybe we should start a "Firmware of the Month" thread? :)

Gee, it sure is fun being a beta tester....

All I can find for the BH100 is a 2 page product description PDF. Is it possible they removed it ? Or do I just need to reload the page multiple times ?

I can't find it either.

Frank, you have enough posts now to do a link.

All I can find for the BH100 is a 2 page product description PDF. Is it possible they removed it ? Or do I just need to reload the page multiple times ?

No, it has not been removed. I don't know what web site you tried to drill down to get the upgrade files, but there are several ways to get to it, SOMETIMES. This is part of the "instability" of LG web sites. Sometimes they just hang; other times they give a "Sorry, we are doing maintenance" messages (not very helpful). Reloading the page will not get you there. Perhaps you went to an overseas site which might not have the upgrade. This upgrade is specifically for U.S. versions of the BH100.

I would suggest doing a Google search LG, and visit some of these sites. Sooner or later, hopefully, you will be able to get to a site that has the upgrades. Trust me, they are available on the web, no snipe hunt here. Some of the sites just have the files, and not the home page that gives the instructions for renaming the ROM file and copying the files to your upgrade DVD. In that case use my original post instructions for that part. The .pdf file will have very good upgrade instructions.

Specifically, the file that needs to be renamed is:

LG_BH_LX100001BN.ROM_pkg114_070308A_bh100_7412_1GB_wo_rt.
(This file is in the .zip LG_BHLX100001.zip and must be extracted)

Rename the extracted file to LG_BH_LX100001BN.ROM.

The file in update00.zip must be extracted. IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE RENAMED.

The .pdf file is an Adobe reader file that does not need to be extracted. Open it in Adobe reader and PRINT IT for reference.

Copy these TWO files (not the .pdf file) to the root of a DVD.

Slap your new firmware update disk in the player, and follow the instructions in the .pdf file. Excuse me, did I say "Read and print" the .pdf??? Heh.. follow the instructions exactly.

I don't mean to be so wordy, but I am not sure what the experience of the viewers on this thread regarding upgrading players, burners, etc. If you are experienced, the whole process of burning the files to a DVD and running it takes less than 1/2 hour. If you don't have any experience in doing this, you have a learning curve. If you are "nervious" about doing this, I would suggest finding a friend (close friend) to do it for you. I always take the dark side; you have a chance of ruining your brand new shiny BH100.

Oops! I forgot. I used a DVD-R disk.

Rutgar, every time I try to attach a link, it fails. I really hate to post dead or bad links.

Rutgar, every time I try to attach a link, it fails. I really hate to post dead or bad links.

Okay, thanks for trying.

Can anyone comment on exactly what issues the firmware update fixes?

use this site


http://us.lgservice.com/

click drivers

Athanasios

Ok Just updated my firmware. you can check wich version you have bye this remote control button sequence;

Setup-> TV Aspect-> select 16:9 -> 1397139-> Enter

it tell you all the system info, i was curious about two bits of info first the MAC Address, since it has an ethernet port i wonder what would happen if you added it to your network and put the mac:address into your router would you be able to get access to the player this way wich would lead me to wonder abut he next system info, the HDCP software it says YES does that mean there might be a way to hack it so it goes off? this would be great for legacy hdmi or dvi displays that dont have hdcp . Hmmm? Any hackers out there? not that i condone such things for copying i just want this new technology to be available to evryone with out having to go out and buy a new display.

Also i had problems with the movie Bable with audio drop uts through out the movie, cleaning the disk and usng a lens cleaner did not solve the issue, so i did the update, poped Bable in and went ott he scenes i knew had major audio drop outs...they were al gone !!!!!!! So this looks like one of the "fixes" this firmware update does.

Athansios

Ok Just updated my firmware. you can check wich version you have bye this remote control button sequence;

Setup-> TV Aspect-> select 16:9 -> 1397139-> Enter

it tell you all the system info, i was curious about two bits of info first the MAC Address, since it has an ethernet port i wonder what would happen if you added it to your network and put the mac:address into your router would you be able to get access to the player this way wich would lead me to wonder abut he next system info, the HDCP software it says YES does that mean there might be a way to hack it so it goes off? this would be great for legacy hdmi or dvi displays that dont have hdcp . Hmmm? Any hackers out there? not that i condone such things for copying i just want this new technology to be available to evryone with out having to go out and buy a new display.

Also i had problems with the movie Bable with audio drop uts through out the movie, cleaning the disk and usng a lens cleaner did not solve the issue, so i did the update, poped Bable in and went ott he scenes i knew had major audio drop outs...they were al gone !!!!!!! So this looks like one of the "fixes" this firmware update does.

Athansios

The newest firmware BH01070308A/PKG114 fixes HDMI audio problems or as LG puts it "improves stability". If you look at the firmware version it actually tells you the date it was released, the newest firmware was released on 03/08/07. LG names it 070308 depends on how you look at the calendar.

For those of you burning the firmware to dvd, if you do not burn the firmware correctly you will most likely just get a "cannot read disc error" when you try to update the firmware. There is a possibility you will toast BH100 if you do not burn the firmware correctly and you will have to send it to the factory for repair.

I know the instructions are a little hard to follow I will try to post better instructions tomorrow when I get to work.

i just recieved this e-mail from LG, has anyone else gotten it also? at the end they want an copy of your ID 1!1 think this is a for real?

here is the e-mail....

Dear, Mr. Athanasios

Hello, my name is Grace Park from LG electronics in South Korea.
I currently work at the Customer Product Usage department, and I am responsible for finding customer's opinion on product usage and points of improvements that we can make as a manufacturer to create better products in the future.

In order to create an upgraded and enhanced product with better services, our department hopes to learn more from consumers about how they find using this product. We would love to hear your opinion and listen to any praise or complaints that you may have about this product.

For our research we hope to conduct an online survey that is divided in three stages. Each stage will include around 10~20 questions.
Also, we would like to see if we could get few pictures of the product (BH100) location internal data analysis and compilation purposes.
And, we guarantee that it will not be used for any advertisement or public use.

The interview will involve mainly the following;
Reason for purchasing this product
How you decided to purchase this product versus some other available at store.
Satisfaction/Dissatisfaction about the product use.
Product Usage

In return for your participation of this study, we will compensate with an honorarium of $100 Best Buy gift card to show our appreciation.

If you are interested in conducting this survey, please send me a reply saying you are willing to participate and give us your precious time to conduct an interview.

Below is a quick summary of this study please read it carefully and I hope to hear from you soon.
Thank you for your time!

Sincerely,
Grace Park

Purpose : To hear customer's opinion about new Hybrid player BH100
Study Method: Online survey that is divided in three stages (At your preferred time)
One stage: around 10~20 questions
Honorarium : $100 gift card

To participate in this study we need : Proof of participation and copy of your ID


"Many people will walk in and out of your life but only true friends will leave footprints in your heart"
?Park, Sun Young (Grace)?

Athanasios

Even if that's NOT a scam, they do NOT need a copy of your ID to participate in a survey.

But, I'd say, it's a scam.

maybe they need the id so you dont try to get more than one girf card? I should call best buy about this offer.

Athanasios

Don't reply! Grace Park is an actress on Battlestar Galactica! It's definitely a scam.

Maybe by copy of ID they mean receipt? Could just be a translation problem of some kind.

Where would LG if that's who it's from have gotten your name though?

Grace Park is also a (Korean) player on the LPGA golf tour. She must be multi-talented!

Maybe by copy of ID they mean receipt? Could just be a translation problem of some kind.

Where would LG if that's who it's from have gotten your name though?


I registered the product online in hopes of them sending me info on firmware updates , wich i did not recieve , i found them out on here....Hmmmmm i should call the number !

Athansios

The newest firmware BH01070308A/PKG114 fixes HDMI audio problems or as LG puts it "improves stability". If you look at the firmware version it actually tells you the date it was released, the newest firmware was released on 03/08/07. LG names it 070308 depends on how you look at the calendar.


I installed the update with no problems. I had the issue with audio drop outs on a movie recently so I am glad this firmware update addresses this problem.

I am glad to have LG giving us an update. I had heard they don't do this so I am glad they have decided to make this available.

Does this player support BDR/RE single and dual layer playback, also does it support playback of home made BDR in PAL 1080 50i/25p?

what have people been paying for that player?

sorry, i haven't got time to read thru 11 pages of replies. if there is a particularly good deal, can someone provide a link. thanks.

Grace Park is also a (Korean) player on the LPGA golf tour. She must be multi-talented!

No. Cylon. There are many copies.

I have had the bh100 since 2/03/07 (decmember 2006 build). I had been putting up with the audio drop outs and picture freeze because the problem was so random from disk to disk. Some do some don't. I also had been waiting for the firmware update. Checking the LG site and calling customer service. I called LG on 3/03/07 to report the the problem, check for firmware, and request a repair. They did not inform me of the upcoming firmware update. They sent me a shipping label. I received the label on 3/10/07 and shipped unit to them the same day. They still have my unit. I called service on 3/20/07 and they had not worked on it yet. Point of this is to just inform. The player (when I have it ) has a great picture and great sound and the up sampling form DVDs was the best I found.

Hitachi 42HDX99
JVC RX-8040B audio running Optical
JBL mid size 6.1

My unit has worked great so far except for one instance. A couple of days ago I put a just opened copy of Alien vs. Predater in the LG player to use as a test disc for my new JVC HD1. It had some major audio drop outs. Since I hadn't had any problems with audio dropouts before, I assumed it was the disk and was prepared to take it back to the store to exchange it. Yesterday, I thought I'd try it one more time before taking it back. This time the disc played just fine and had no issues with any audio drop outs.

rtlplus3, you said you checked on 3/20, and they hadn't gotten to your unit yet. That was a month ago. Do you know what the current status is?

I should have my unit back this week. I'll post which firmware ver# it comes back with and later I'll post how the unit is doing.

LG Posted Firmware Update By CD on Web:

LG has posted a new firmware update (later than January build) that can be installed on a DVD and will update your firmware.
The new firmware version is BH01070308A/PKG114.
This firmware is described as "...improvement of performance."
Quote: "Applying program for March MP." I can only guess that this might mean a "March" firmware upgrade.

1. Go to the lge home page, support, and search for bh100 downloads.
(note: I am not allowed to post the link by this forum. The LG web pages are flakey).
2. Download the ROM package, the .bin file, and the PDF instruction. READ IT, PRINT IT, AND FOLLOW IT! (yeah, I am shouting)
3. The ROM and .bin files are zip files, and the instruction is a .pdf file. Unzip the zips.
4. Rename the ROM file according to the instructions.
5. Copy that renamed file and the .bin file to a blank DVD (NOT a CD of course).
6. The DVD disk label can be whatever you wish.
7. Make sure the two files burned to the disk are in the root directory of the DVD.
8. Shove the new disk into the BH100, hit play, follow the instructions, and follow the fun.
9. BE PATIENT! Obviously one must not interrupt the update process.
10.When the update is complete the BH100 will spit out the disk, and it will shut down.
11.The update is NOT completed until #10 has occured.
12.Put in a movie and watch TV.

Note: During the upgrade you will see progress of the update on the BH100 screen (not the TV)

The reason that I posted the instructions here is because whoever wrote these instructions seems to have a real problem grappling with the English language.

Finally as people know, I emphasize that this upgrade is easy, but it is NOT for the faint of heart. I would assume that any deviation from the instructions, any file corruption, or any interruption of the update process might sink the good ship LG BH 100 necessitating a return to the factory. I take no responsibility for any problems; All I have done is rephrase the instructions.

I did it. It works. As of yet I have not seen any differences in performance, but I just completed the upgrade a short time ago. And no, it does not add HD-DVD features or audio specifications. I have been told that these would be HARDWARE upgrades if ithey ever were to occur.

Good luck!

I downloaded the 3 files from the LG website. The PDF I donwloaded mentions nothing of renaming the ROM file or the process of burning to the DVD. It simply goes thru the process once you put the DVD in the player. Can someone elaborate on this or point me to the correct instructions for applying this update?

Thanks

here is a direct type from the web site:
The green text tells you to rename!!
This firmware must apply to USA products only.

#.It was improvement of performance;
Applying program for March MP.

#. Firmware Version : BH01070308A/PKG114

#. Countermeasure
: Updating by using the newest firmware.
The update method is refer to the attatchment.

# Program upgrade method

[Current system information display]
Push the button on remote controller as followed sequence
Setup -> TV Aspect -> Select 16:9 -> 1 3 9 7 1 3 9 -> Enter

[ DVD Write method]
1.You have to make a upgrade disc of DVD UDF format using fixed a file name.
2.Volume name of Disc: anything is OK
3. Rename the file name to "LG_BH_LX100001BN.ROM and update00.bin "
e.g.)LG_BH_LX100001BN.ROM_pkg114_070308A_bh100_7412_1GB_wo_r t -> LG_BH_LX100001BN.ROM
4. The update program (LG_BH_LX100001BN.ROM and update00.bin) the write it does in Root directory of Blank DVD.
(Recommended DVD recording software : Roxio Easy DVDCreator, Nero Burning Rom, etc...)

[Update method ]
1. Insert disk in SET and press Play key according to OSD guide.
2. Wait until power off in itself.
* Please refer to the attachment for more detail


Athanasios

I have been searching and cant find a thread for the LG SMB-007 player which I have recently purchased. After reading through this thread It seems these two players are very similar. Are they infact the same player?


Or is the SMB-007 a Canadian verison or updated version of the BH100?


I havent had any problems with the player other then Big Fish (bluray) not working past the title menu (the previews worked). The only other issue is 1080P not working from it, but if it is the same as the BH100 then I would need a 1080P/24 tv (which I dont have ---> i have a samsung 4665F). I am thinking of taking it back since I could get a 1st gen blu-ray and a 1st gen HD for only a little less. But of course Im not quite sure that teh difference would even be worth it since from what Ive read there isnt much of a difference between 1080P and 1080i unless its 1080P/24.

Thanks,
Chris.

Hi,

I am new and been reading this long thread... is this available any where in the Toronto Area TODAY ?

Thanks in advance,

thecompletist

Hi,

I am new and been reading this long thread... is this available any where in the Toronto Area TODAY ?

Thanks in advance,

thecompletist

Possibly Future Shop for the SMB-007, didn't see it in the 'online store' though...

I have been searching and cant find a thread for the LG SMB-007 player which I have recently purchased. After reading through this thread It seems these two players are very similar. Are they infact the same player?


Or is the SMB-007 a Canadian verison or updated version of the BH100?


I havent had any problems with the player other then Big Fish (bluray) not working past the title menu (the previews worked). The only other issue is 1080P not working from it, but if it is the same as the BH100 then I would need a 1080P/24 tv (which I dont have ---> i have a samsung 4665F). I am thinking of taking it back since I could get a 1st gen blu-ray and a 1st gen HD for only a little less. But of course Im not quite sure that teh difference would even be worth it since from what Ive read there isnt much of a difference between 1080P and 1080i unless its 1080P/24.

Thanks,
Chris.

Hmmmm, this is interesting, I might consider the SMB-007 if it can output 1080p!?

Is this player being restricted to 1080p24 only? What about 1080p60?

The BH-100 won't negotiate an HDCP HDMI connection through Pioneer (and some other) receivers, making their HDMI switching useless -- you have to plug the BH-100 directly into the TV and route the sound separately to the receiver. Does this update fix that problem?

I've been running a BH100 through it's paces for a couple of days. My own system has a PS3 and HD-XA2 running through a Denon 4306 into a Sony VPL-VW50 (Pearl). Overall, I actually rather like the BH100, though it's well documented shortcomings would keep me from replacing either of the players I currently use. That said, I thought I'd offer a few quick observations for this thread.

I did update the firmware in the player after using it for a day. I feel I should also tell everyone that we received an email from our LG rep firm (we sell LG, among a number of other brands in our custom design/install business) a week ago specifically warning to NOT do this upgrade and to tell our customers not to. I don't know where they got their instructions from for this email, but I have to doubt it was from LG as LG still has the update firmware files available on the web. I did it anyway. ;).

I believe the main focus of this update was for Java compatibility with Blu-ray discs. Prior to the update, several of the BD titles that use some Java-based applications were very slow to load and play. Big Fish would not play at all. Post update, Big Fish now loads and plays almost as quickly as the PS3. This is a major improvement in this area.

The BH100 I have is a January build, and the Denon receiver has the latest firmware. There were no audio isues over HDMI before or after the update. I got normal Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 through HDMI immediately, and with no noted drop-outs or other problems.

The player also output 1080/24p to the Sony projector for both HD DVD and Blu-ray when the 1080p resolution was selected. The video performance with this combination of player and projector is surprisingly good. The Sony refreshes at 96Hz with a 24P input, and displayed video has a wonderful fluidity and appears completely free of any visible artifacts that might be related to video processing. While I still give the HD-XA2 and the PS3 a very, very slight advantage in overall video performance, considering the BH100 plays both formats on a single chassis, it does it remarkably well.

I will close with a word to the HD DVD owners that have been experiencing problems with some of the Universal HD DVDs that use U-Contol or other HDi programming. Though it may sound like heresy, NOT having HDi in a player can have its advantages. I could not even force the BH100 to lock or freeze on any of the "problem" discs, no matter what I tried. I cannot say the same for the XA2 in its current form. Although I don't have the overt problems some are having, ie, I don't get stuttering or locking up when playing one of these discs normally, I do have problems on a few of them when trying to navigate through some of the later chapters. While I can't recommend a player that does not include HDi functionality, I now am of the opinion it would be nice to be able to turn it off.

Robert, great feedback!.

Do you know if this is the same player as the one available in Canada, the SMB-007?

Also, does this player output 1080p60?

Thanks

Do you know if this is the same player as the one available in Canada, the SMB-007?

Also, does this player output 1080p60?

I am not familiar with Canadian models. However, if the model you are referring to a an LG dual format HD player, then I would be very surprised if it were not identical to the US model.

The BH100 does not output 1080p60.

Can anyone confirm that this player is zone locked for Blu Ray?
I have seen one playing a confirmed Zone A disc (BR: Devil Wears Prada), but when I inserted a Zone B disc (BR: Ultra Violet) it played that as well. I guess this probably means that the Zone B marking on the disc case is incorrect (it's most likely Zone ABC), but it would be nice to have that confirmed.
As far as I could tell it is region locked for DVD's (played R1, but said 'Check disc' when I inserted an R2 disc.

Cheers,
GothMogh

Can anyone else confirm the picture quality from this on both blu-ray & hd dvd versus any of the top leading single units as well as the picture clarity compared to the others???

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As far as I can tell, the LG BH100 is very neutral. It just sends out what's on the disc (when using 1080p), so there are no PQ degradation that I can detect.

Could someone confirm what audio codecs this can decode and whether it can send them over hdmi to a denon amplifier? Thanks

Will this player work at 1080p with the Sharp LC-65D93U?

I just can't wait until the pricing goes down a little further... This player will be perfect for a bedroom or my outdoor theater...

For some reason, my LG BH100 (upgraded with the 5/3/07 firmware) will play the multichannel 5.1 TrueHD tracks through the analog outputs of the player on the Blu-ray disc. TrueHD is supposed to be output as a stereo downmix only on the LG according to the manual.

To sanity-check myself, I attempted to play the TrueHD tracks on the HD-DVD version of PHANTOM OF THE OPERA. I was only able to get stereo...no multichannel 5.1 audio.

LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA is the only Blu-ray disc I own with a TrueHD soundtrack so I was not able to try another Blu-ray title with this audio on the player.

Interesting. Anyone else with the same experience?

The UK spec version of this player is out in UK now. I do not have the player but I have read the technical specs on a pdf of downloaded operating instructions.

As you say, True HD is only meant to be 2 channel. But interestingly in the pdf of downloaded operating instructions, it says for Bluray, analogue output is 5.1. I assumed this was a misprint, but from what you say, this is clearly not the case.

For the record, the manual states that for HDDVD, analogue output is 2 channel.

If you were to read the US specs I think you will probably find the same.

BTW , how does the 5.1 TrueHD sound ?

Does the recent firmware update fix the missing iHD capabilities, or is a fix for this interactivity feature anticipated? Correct me if I'm wrong, but understand this machine won't handle most menus from the new HD-DVD DVE disc (test patterns). What are other significant limitations? Thanks. -- John

You're correct on all counts re: TrueHD and this player. the TrueHD 5.1 on Blu-ray is great; just wish they'd come out with a firmware upgrade to allow multichannel TrueHD on HD-DVD.

Alot of re-questioning about this player lately. All this stuff is answered on earlier pages.

I have owned it since march 31st this year. I have around 100 discs mixed formats, of course. The only problem is audio dropouts once in a great while. The firmware disc was shipped to me two weeks ago and haven't listened to all of them, but seems to be going well. (no audio dropouts) I called LG's number and requested they send me the firmware disc. They did after verifying what date I bought it on the reciept. The hdi function, which is not being able to watch the hd-dvd menu screens is no big deal to me. I believe it will not be fixed; no big deal to me. You can manually go to the title and watch special features randomly if you wish. Blu-ray discs do show their menus. However, you can't watch PIP currently on this machine. Liar's Dice on POTC2 won't work as the current update did not fix the capable memory that the PIP requires. All movies work; Sound is TrueHD(when available on the disc) only through digital 2 channel. To be honest, haven't yet hooked up component 5.1 cables-- to me the 2 channel is fine with headphones or two speakers and my Pyramat wireless rocker behind me. I imagine by the deadline to conform, October 31st, 2007... the bh100 will have the PIP function working. I have not seen the price go down anywhere ($1100-1200), yet one claim on review site somewhere said he got it for $900. I paid the normal price at best buy, but it was opened and attached with a $100 gift card. I don't know if it was on purpose or not, but a fifth element disc was in the tray as well. (not the best transfer yet) I am very happy with it, I have an Zenith 44 inch lcd projection tv. This is close to the lcd projection that LG had; probably makes them for zenith? I can't recieve 1080p, but don't complain as most of these movies made aren't filmed originally in 1080, but 720, right? 1080i is fine with me. (sometimes motion blur) I hope some of this helped some of you... it is a good machine, but a little high... what do you expect this early? Take care.

Alot of re-questioning about this player lately. All this stuff is answered on earlier pages.

I have owned it since march 31st this year. I have around 100 discs mixed formats, of course. The only problem is audio dropouts once in a great while. The firmware disc was shipped to me two weeks ago and haven't listened to all of them, but seems to be going well. (no audio dropouts) I called LG's number and requested they send me the firmware disc. They did after verifying what date I bought it on the reciept. The hdi function, which is not being able to watch the hd-dvd menu screens is no big deal to me. I believe it will not be fixed; no big deal to me. You can manually go to the title and watch special features randomly if you wish. Blu-ray discs do show their menus. However, you can't watch PIP currently on this machine. Liar's Dice on POTC2 won't work as the current update did not fix the capable memory that the PIP requires. All movies work; Sound is TrueHD(when available on the disc) only through digital 2 channel. To be honest, haven't yet hooked up component 5.1 cables-- to me the 2 channel is fine with headphones or two speakers and my Pyramat wireless rocker behind me. I imagine by the deadline to conform, October 31st, 2007... the bh100 will have the PIP function working. I have not seen the price go down anywhere ($1100-1200), yet one claim on review site somewhere said he got it for $900. I paid the normal price at best buy, but it was opened and attached with a $100 gift card. I don't know if it was on purpose or not, but a fifth element disc was in the tray as well. (not the best transfer yet) I am very happy with it, I have an Zenith 44 inch lcd projection tv. This is close to the lcd projection that LG had; probably makes them for zenith? I can't recieve 1080p, but don't complain as most of these movies made aren't filmed originally in 1080, but 720, right? 1080i is fine with me. (sometimes motion blur) I hope some of this helped some of you... it is a good machine, but a little high... what do you expect this early? Take care.


LG does make Zenith product. Internally there is no difference between Zenith and LG.

I work at Best Buy and we not too long ago displayed the LG...picture quality is better than the other Blu-ray players i've seen. Haven't had a chance to see HD-DVD quality yet. Also had a chance to see it on the new Panasonic 50" 1080p Plasma! Looks great!

I am curious wether the internal drive is a standard 5.25inch package like some players have. Would be great to pull out the drive when you buy a LG BH200 :cool: (or maybe a Samsung BD-P5000) and use it in a HTPC for kicks. Obviously you would have a bezel problem, but a few HTPC cases require removal of the bezel anyway, like mine.

Inside pictures?

For some reason, my LG BH100 (upgraded with the 5/3/07 firmware) will play the multichannel 5.1 TrueHD tracks through the analog outputs of the player on the Blu-ray disc.
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In the instructions given previously in this thread...the PKG114_070308A_BH100... version was US only. There are disc_update_070503B_kernel_0203a.zip files (World Wide) and disc_update_070503B_kernel_0203a.zip (ALL) also listed.

I have a January version. (Also how does one exit the screen with the info other than power off?). Have noticed dropouts. Should I upgrade the March version, THEN the May version...or can one go directly to the May version.

I will try asking LG as well.

Thanks.

There is one open box version of this player is available at my local Best Buy for 899. Is it worth giving it a shot a this price?

For some reason, my LG BH100 (upgraded with the 5/3/07 firmware) will play the multichannel 5.1 TrueHD tracks through the analog outputs of the player on the Blu-ray disc.
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In the instructions given previously in this thread...the PKG114_070308A_BH100... version was US only. There are disc_update_070503B_kernel_0203a.zip files (World Wide) and disc_update_070503B_kernel_0203a.zip (ALL) also listed.

I have a January version. (Also how does one exit the screen with the info other than power off?). Have noticed dropouts. Should I upgrade the March version, THEN the May version...or can one go directly to the May version.

I will try asking LG as well.

Thanks.

Upgrade to the May version you do not have to upgrade to the March version then the May version.

Okay, so if I buy this player now will all the upgrades be already done?
Can I get 1080p/24 with my PT AE1000U?

Thanks,
Presume both ALL and WorldWide are same versions.

Little discussion on what the 5/3 firmware update does other thatn the one TrueHD post. Does anyone know the full scoop?

Mike

For some reason, my LG BH100 (upgraded with the 5/3/07 firmware) will play the multichannel 5.1 TrueHD tracks through the analog outputs of the player on the Blu-ray disc.
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My understanding is its always been able to do True HD over 5.1 analogue, just not for HDDVD.

Okay, so if I buy this player now will all the upgrades be already done?
Can I get 1080p/24 with my PT AE1000U?

You will have to look at the date of manufacture to determine this. If the store has old stock you will need to update the firmware. Regardless, LG is releasing firmware frequently for this model so you will have to upgrade the firmware no matter what version you buy.

Should be a new version released in a soon from my understanding.

Is it technically possible that with a firmware upgrade the LG could output multichannel PCM over HDMI?

Hi, any chance to make the LG BH100 bought in Europe to play US movies (DVD, BD or HD DVD) ?

Hi, any chance to make the LG BH100 bought in Europe to play US movies (DVD, BD or HD DVD) ?

Usually, the ones purchased out of the US are already zone free. I guess the dealers make the modification while the manufacturer looks the other way. At least that is the way it was when I purchased a Denon out of the country. It voids the manufacturer's warranty but the dealers who do this offer their own warranty. If the one you purchased is not already zone free then you have to find a dealer who knows how and is willing to do it for you and you will have to consider the warranty implications.

A warning to all who have a set that requires 1080p 60fps. I bought the LG and had to return. It outputs 24fps and 30fps but not 60. It will not work with SONY sets for 1080p only 1080i. Tried firmware upgrade and still got unsupported signal message @ 1080p. Tried 3 other sets in store, same story. Worked great with the newer 120 hz sets, but none of the SONY XBR2s, LCD or LCOS which I have.

A warning to all who have a set that requires 1080p 60fps. I bought the LG and had to return. It outputs 24fps and 30fps but not 60. It will not work with SONY sets for 1080p only 1080i. Tried firmware upgrade and still got unsupported signal message @ 1080p. Tried 3 other sets in store, same story. Worked great with the newer 120 hz sets, but none of the SONY XBR2s, LCD or LCOS which I have.

Its not the lg its your sets if your set does 60 then it should do the lgs 30 since its a even multiple of it. i know i have read other post where this works with those sets . some one else chime in if i'm wrong.

Athanasios

Its not the lg its your sets if your set does 60 then it should do the lgs 30 since its a even multiple of it. i know i have read other post where this works with those sets . some one else chime in if i'm wrong.

Athanasios

No, It's not the sets. I talked with SONY and LG. Both confirmed what I have posted. The SONY XBRs will not accept 30fps.

No, It's not the sets. I talked with SONY and LG. Both confirmed what I have posted. The SONY XBRs will not accept 30fps.

well if I'm not mistaken, 1080p24 is the standard for all BR and HD discs. I guess maybe some of the players convert that to 60hz. A solution, which I employ, is to use an external video processor. Mine (Crystalio 3800) handles 1080p24 and converts that to 1080p60 for my plasma (which does not handle 24 hz).

Good solution, but expensive considering the cost of the player. I plan on getting Samsung's new dual format using the HQV for upconversion of standard DVDs to 1080p and it outputs HD and BluRay in either 24 or 60p. It also outputs Dolby True HD (5.1) and DTS HD via HDMI 1.3. It's sweet! :)

I never realized this player will actually play 5.1 TrueHD with Blu-Ray discs. I tried it with "300" and re-confirmed with "Letters from Iwo Jima". That changes the equation a bit; all of a sudden, I'm interested in other Blu-ray discs with TrueHD soundtracks. woo hoo !

Confused. I performed the Mar upgrade successfully with all the necessary files and instructions (thanks!). Would have gone directly to the May upgrade, described in prior post, but the only files online were .iso files. I downloaded the May upgrade .iso file but could not create a DVD from it. Don't know why. Can I use a CD to burn it to and perform the upgrade using a CD???

Also, the site changed and it appears all downloads are gone (except for manuals). I was going to re download in case the file was somehow corrupted. I still have the file. There was no .ROM file

Where does it state that TrueHD is 5.1? Through what outputs? If HDMI, I thought 1.3 was required for that and LG has only 1.1 (I think). If other outputs, I will be in heaven and keep my processor. If multi-channel analog, they need an internal decoder for 5.1 and I seriously doubt there is enough processing horsepower for that, certainly not at the list price! Only other option is coaxial or optical digital outputs, and I don't think they have enough bandwidth. Unsure, just stating what I recall from many other postings. Prehaps my memory is not accurate this time of night.

In summary, can someone provide help on how to get the May upgrade files from new reconfigured website, and some confirmation that True HD is 5.1. Their site description ONLY lists True HD (2 ch only)! Perhaps someone could burn another DVD. I tried DVD-R if that matters. It worked the first time with the March upgrade.

Thanks,
Mike

Confused. I performed the Mar upgrade successfully with all the necessary files and instructions (thanks!). Would have gone directly to the May upgrade, described in prior post, but the only files online were .iso files. I downloaded the May upgrade .iso file but could not create a DVD from it. Don't know why. Can I use a CD to burn it to and perform the upgrade using a CD???

Also, the site changed and it appears all downloads are gone (except for manuals). I was going to re download in case the file was somehow corrupted. I still have the file. There was no .ROM file

Where does it state that TrueHD is 5.1? Through what outputs? If HDMI, I thought 1.3 was required for that and LG has only 1.1 (I think). If other outputs, I will be in heaven and keep my processor. If multi-channel analog, they need an internal decoder for 5.1 and I seriously doubt there is enough processing horsepower for that, certainly not at the list price! Only other option is coaxial or optical digital outputs, and I don't think they have enough bandwidth. Unsure, just stating what I recall from many other postings. Prehaps my memory is not accurate this time of night.

In summary, can someone provide help on how to get the May upgrade files from new reconfigured website, and some confirmation that True HD is 5.1. Their site description ONLY lists True HD (2 ch only)! Perhaps someone could burn another DVD. I tried DVD-R if that matters. It worked the first time with the March upgrade.

Thanks,
Mike

The latest firmware is July 11, 2007. Go to us.lgservice.com; choose "drivers"; choose "DVD&Video&Set Top"; put "BH100" in the subject line and do the search. You will see the newest firmware.

There are also instructions on how to burn the DVD that you can download on the same page. You will see there the type of discs you can use. You have to use a DVD; can't use CD.

Look at your manual or post 266 for the sound formats and how they are handled by the LG.

I had the same problem with both the May and July versions of firmware. Both decompress to a .iso file, and neither Windows, MacOS, nor CDBurnerXP Pro (which supposedly burns all formats of DVDs and recognizes all kinds of ISO images) will recognize the image: they all say it's corrupted or unrecognizable. Is there some secret I'm missing? What DVD burning software has worked for you?

I had the same problem with both the May and July versions of firmware. Both decompress to a .iso file, and neither Windows, MacOS, nor CDBurnerXP Pro (which supposedly burns all formats of DVDs and recognizes all kinds of ISO images) will recognize the image: they all say it's corrupted or unrecognizable. Is there some secret I'm missing? What DVD burning software has worked for you?

I'm no expert on burning but I have consistently been able to make the update disks using DVD Decrypter. I tried with Nero but could never get it to work. Also one of my DVD drives just doesn't seem to work for burning. I have no idea why. The other one works fine. Also double check that you are using the right type of blank DVD.

I have repeatedly tried unsuccessfully to burn this DVD with the May or July updates on both a Mac or a PC as well. I tried DVD-R, DVD+R, both failed. Could burn a Mac/PC file, but then LG didn't recognize the disc and just opened the drawer to reject it. Maybe it is time to call and request a DVD. If someone has luck, let us know with what software. I will try and track down DVD Decrypter.

I have repeatedly tried unsuccessfully to burn this DVD with the May or July updates on both a Mac or a PC as well. I tried DVD-R, DVD+R, both failed. Could burn a Mac/PC file, but then LG didn't recognize the disc and just opened the drawer to reject it. Maybe it is time to call and request a DVD. If someone has luck, let us know with what software. I will try and track down DVD Decrypter.

I bought this program:

http://www.magiciso.com/

It cost $30.00. But it worked.

I used DVD Decryptor (free) to burn the 0707 firmware to DVD and upgraded with no problem. This resolved both problems I had with my player:

1. The unit will now connect via HDMI through my Pioneer receiver to my Sony TV. Previously the unit would crash during startup unless the Pioneer was set to pass through the HDMI signal completely unexamined to the TV -- which meant that the receiver couldn't get the sound from the HDMI connection (not very appealing to play the sound through the TV). Now it all seems to work as it should, even re-establishing the connection if I change video scaler parameters on the receiver.

2. I can now play Big Fish.

There is a "cookie" on the new BluRay "remasterd" "The Fifth Element" DVD. It's a calibration aid. I guess something like THX Optimizer for video color, saturation, Black and White level calibration settings.

... It won't play on the LG BH100 with 070711 firmware installed.

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but all of the buttons ar on the TOP of the device. I mounted one of these in a Middle Atlantic rack with the custom faceplate, and it's impossible to eject, turn on, or play without the remote. Why on earth would you not put the freakin eject button on the front of a device that's bound to be put in a rack?

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but all of the buttons ar on the TOP of the device. I mounted one of these in a Middle Atlantic rack with the custom faceplate, and it's impossible to eject, turn on, or play without the remote. Why on earth would you not put the freakin eject button on the front of a device that's bound to be put in a rack?

Just get a rack shelf and place the unit on it. I know someone else who has a Mid Atlantic rack, and that's what they did.

Obviously you can do that, but when all the other equipment is in faceplats creating a nice clean "flat" front surface, it looks hokie to have a 2U shelf and a gap above it. That being said, form must follow function in that case. Or just program the remote to take care of it all for you :D

Is this LG the only combo player available right now? I know the samsung is coming out sometime this year, but just wondering.

I thinks its cool with the buttons on top.

unstuck

There is a current (10/15/07) problem playing some blu-Ray disks (Fantastic four 2). First the disk will prompt for a firmware update to be able to play the disk. After the upgrade the video will play but you get audio drop out. I have tried both DD5.1 and DTS audio tracks. Both have the audio drop out.

If I get this player, will it output HD-DVD and BluRay via component at 1080i resolution?

If I get this player, will it output HD-DVD and BluRay via component at 1080i resolution?

Yes, but it will NOT upscale most std DVD. The upscaling and 1080p only work accross HDMI.