View Full Version : Children of men - France - April 24th 2007


grucl
01-20-07, 12:38 PM
The french Amazon-site has listed the Clive Owen sci-fi movie for a April 24th release:

http://www.amazon.fr/fils-lhomme-HD-DVD/dp/B000MQCAUA/sr=1-41/qid=1169314513/ref=sr_1_41/171-5779071-2325020?ie=UTF8&s=dvd

rboster
01-20-07, 12:44 PM
I have an R2 SD copy coming from Tony at xploitedcinema next week. I'll post my thoughts on PQ etc. This should be a fair indication of the HD-DVD version.

nharmon91
01-20-07, 12:48 PM
R2?

Hupp
01-20-07, 01:07 PM
R2?
region 2

rboster
01-20-07, 01:11 PM
It's the UK studio release of Children of Men. I use an OPPO dvd player that is region free to enjoy movies from other countries. Last weekend we watched Golden Globe nominee "Volver" at home. Next weekend we'll enjoy Children of Men:

http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/children-of-men-p-11007.html

BuGsArEtAsTy
01-20-07, 01:15 PM
The french Amazon-site has listed the Clive Owen sci-fi movie for a April 24th release:

http://www.amazon.fr/fils-lhomme-HD-DVD/dp/B000MQCAUA/sr=1-41/qid=1169314513/ref=sr_1_41/171-5779071-2325020?ie=UTF8&s=dvd
If you put it in your cart, it shows up at EUR 20.89 (not EUR 24.98 like on the main page) but unfortunately the shipping is EUR 10.90 to Canada, for a total of EUR 31.79 (CAD$48.31 or US$41.22).

I'll wait for this Universal release to hit North America.

nharmon91
01-20-07, 01:37 PM
Oh I got it, wow it came out fast.

gocam
01-20-07, 01:49 PM
Yeah - got it through amazon.co.uk (CoM/ R2) - very good price, and arrived amazingly quickly - watched it at start of week (after seeing at Cinema week before). Great movie and outstanding SD transfer. It came out 'quickly' as the film was released in the middle of 2006 in the UK, instead of being criminally buried at Christmas as it was here in the US.


Oh I got it, wow it came out fast.

sharkshark
01-20-07, 02:41 PM
I'm in theatres here, watching the (fabulous) film on a fairly big screen (the Beach, for those in the T dot), and the Uni logo comes up... and all I can think is to a/b it with my HD titles, and pleased that this film will eventually hit my collection... All this before I've even watched a second of the film...

I think I need help... ;)

cdhender
01-20-07, 02:56 PM
Can't wait for this on hd-dvd.

tlreddragon
01-20-07, 04:53 PM
I'm finally going to see this tommorow in theaters I don't think I can wait until the DVD comes out. I love Clive Owen and it sounds really interesting.

SyHD
01-20-07, 05:36 PM
The movie is the most over-hyped movie of 2006. Critics who reviewed it early on were so myopic. If you make a movie that presents political ideas which conformed to yours(namely to the critic circles) in an artful way, all the glaring flaws of the movie will be unseen. One critic on cinematical.com even proclaimed it the best movie of the century.

I don't how anyone can not be bother by the glaring illogical premises of this movie. The movie is based on the premise that no human being has been produce for some 18 years. If you follow that logic, earth will lose at least 20% of its population. Yet the movie portrayed Britain as an overcrowded country with immigrates locked in cages on the streets in London. The police state Britain government also runs Abu Ghraib-like detention centers. If I were an immigrate, why would I want make my way across a body of water and live in a police state?

The whole immigration issue was a distraction and took away the main theme of the movie. The cinematography was excellent though ...I guess there is that if you want this on HD DVD.

mdc3000
01-20-07, 06:23 PM
The rest of the world was pretty much demolished with War etc. that's why people were trying to get to Britain...it was all that was left standing... I think the fact that it was a police state didn't stop immigrants from going, seeing as the other option was certain death. These so called 'illogical premises' seem pretty damn logical if you pay attention to the film - and it is a work of science fiction portraying a future world in disarray...if these stopped you from enjoying the film, I feel bad for you .

Easily one of the best of the year and I'm eagerly awaiting the HD DVD.

SyHD
01-20-07, 06:52 PM
The rest of the world was pretty much demolished with War etc. that's why people were trying to get to Britain...it was all that was left standing... I think the fact that it was a police state didn't stop immigrants from going, seeing as the other option was certain death. These so called 'illogical premises' seem pretty damn logical if you pay attention to the film - and it is a work of science fiction portraying a future world in disarray...if these stopped you from enjoying the film, I feel bad for you .

Easily one of the best of the year and I'm eagerly awaiting the HD DVD.


Yes ...the rest of the world was demolished because of wars EXCEPT Britain. That is so logical ...I got a nice beach property in Arizona to sell to you. As if Britain is all the sudden immune to wars ...get real. I know ...over 1 billion already died ...lets have wars and kill the rest of us!

BuGsArEtAsTy
01-20-07, 06:56 PM
Very good movie. Even if it isn't perfect, I do recommend it to anyone who asks.

I'm looking forward to this on HD DVD.

nharmon91
01-20-07, 07:25 PM
I find it depresing that such a fantastic movie hasnt made back its budget yet. Also have any of you read the book? Its better than the movie (of course this is usually the case), P.D. James is a great writer!

gocam
01-20-07, 09:47 PM
Completely disagree - overhyped ? Please, most people in this country haven't heard of it.

If you fixate on the partial MacGuffin of the infertility _reason_ then I think you miss the deeper message of the film. In addition, I'm from the UK and I can tell you that the vision of London and the UK is a startlingly frightning yet plausible vision of a future, with certain things tweaked and amped up of course to serve the story.

But we're each entitled to our opinions, so I'll leave it there - the treatment of violence is quite striking - there is no glorification, thank goodness....

-g.

The movie is the most over-hyped movie of 2006. Critics who reviewed it early on were so myopic. If you make a movie that presents political ideas which conformed to yours(namely to the critic circles) in an artful way, all the glaring flaws of the movie will be unseen. One critic on cinematical.com even proclaimed it the best movie of the century.

I don't how anyone can not be bother by the glaring illogical premises of this movie. The movie is based on the premise that no human being has been produce for some 18 years. If you follow that logic, earth will lose at least 20% of its population. Yet the movie portrayed Britain as an overcrowded country with immigrates locked in cages on the streets in London. The police state Britain government also runs Abu Ghraib-like detention centers. If I were an immigrate, why would I want make my way across a body of water and live in a police state?

The whole immigration issue was a distraction and took away the main theme of the movie. The cinematography was excellent though ...I guess there is that if you want this on HD DVD.

apog
01-20-07, 10:58 PM
The movie is the most over-hyped movie of 2006. Critics who reviewed it early on were so myopic. If you make a movie that presents political ideas which conformed to yours(namely to the critic circles) in an artful way, all the glaring flaws of the movie will be unseen. One critic on cinematical.com even proclaimed it the best movie of the century.

I don't how anyone can not be bother by the glaring illogical premises of this movie. The movie is based on the premise that no human being has been produce for some 18 years. If you follow that logic, earth will lose at least 20% of its population. Yet the movie portrayed Britain as an overcrowded country with immigrates locked in cages on the streets in London. The police state Britain government also runs Abu Ghraib-like detention centers. If I were an immigrate, why would I want make my way across a body of water and live in a police state?

The whole immigration issue was a distraction and took away the main theme of the movie. The cinematography was excellent though ...I guess there is that if you want this on HD DVD.

It may be a bit hokey in a few places, but it has scenes of greatness as well. I thought the movie was awesome and it prompted me to read the book. The book is pretty different from the movie other than the title, basis of world without children, overall elegiac tone and theme of hope in a seemingly hopeless world. Both the movie and book are excellent, but in different ways.

Regarding immigration, I agree with you to some extent; I can see how the issue could be considered overplayed. I vaguely remember the movie having a short sequence implying that other countries were in chaos thereby leaving Britain (coincidentally, the author is British) as the best remnant of civilization. I disagree with the assertion that the immigration issue detracted from the central theme. One of themes in the film is that organizations with or seeking to acquire power may have an agenda that isn't necessarily concerned with the large majority of folks who simply want to live a reasonable life. The immigrants serve to support that theme.

Regarding the politics, I agree there's one sign that could have been removed without any impact on the film.

Anyways, I'll be buying the HD DVD as soon as it's available.

Eric D.
01-20-07, 11:45 PM
I loved this film, and can't wait to see it again on HD DVD.

sjwithers
01-21-07, 01:10 AM
Forget the politics and enjoy the craftsmanship! There is a scene in the film that is a single 10 minute take from inside a car that is without doubt one of the most amazing pieces of film making I've ever seen. Alfonso Cuaron is a fantastic director, just compare his Harry Potter that bursts with cinematic imagination and magic to Chris Columbus's slavish copy of the book.

ManiG
01-21-07, 01:12 AM
Regarding the politics, I agree there's one sign that could have been removed without any impact on the film.


Unless I'm mistaken I think you mean the sign on the bus? If so I agree.

This was the best apocalypse movie I have ever seen, without a doubt.

Also some of the most tense, unpleasant battle scenes since Saving Private Ryan.

Overall I left the theater feeling very creeped out and uncomfortable. It's been a very long while since I've seen a movie capable of affecting me like that. Kudos to the makers of this film.

nharmon91
01-21-07, 01:13 AM
Kudos to the makers of this film.

Kudos to P.D. James

SheepFactory
01-23-07, 12:20 PM
This movie is the reason I got a hd-dvd drive.

chris5977
01-23-07, 05:37 PM
I saw the movie and thought it was brilliant and entertaining. I think the people whining about the immigration issues brought up in the movie just don't "get it."

If you can't see that this film is a brilliant masterpiece, I wonder why you are in this place of movie lovers? It reminds me of the scene in Amadeus where the king was telling Mozart that his symphony had "too many notes."

The movie's message, if it has one, is that it is just as wrong to commit and atrocity for a "good" cause as it is to commit an atrocity for a "bad" cause.

What does the objectionable sign on the bus say? I don't recall being offended by anything in the movie so I don't understand.

rboster
01-23-07, 06:02 PM
Forget the politics and enjoy the craftsmanship! There is a scene in the film that is a single 10 minute take from inside a car that is without doubt one of the most amazing pieces of film making I've ever seen. Alfonso Cuaron is a fantastic director, just compare his Harry Potter that bursts with cinematic imagination and magic to Chris Columbus's slavish copy of the book.


On the R2 SD release, they have a 15 min doc and examine how they shot that scene....WOW....I hope the US release has more than just this bonus feature...this film deserves a "special edition" type treatment.

SyHD
01-23-07, 06:05 PM
If you can't see that this film is a brilliant masterpiece, I wonder why you are in the place of movie lovers? It reminds me of the scene in Amadeus where the king was telling Mozart that his symphony had "too many notes."

The movie's message, if it has one, is that it is just as wrong to commit and atrocity for a "good" cause as it is to commit an atrocity for a "bad" cause.


Two people can't have differing opinions on a movie? You make it sound like you are the authoritative judge on what is a good movie and what is a bad movie. The plot of the movie is asinine. There are more holes in the plot than some of the war torn buildings in the movie. If its such a "brilliant masterpiece", I guess the voters of the Academy are blind because Children of Men didn't even get nominated for Best Picture.

chris5977
01-23-07, 09:18 PM
Well, I guess we're just going to have to disagree. I saw no holes in the plot whatsoever. And the movie has gotten universal acclaim from critics and on internet forums such as this, so it not just ME saying that movie is a masterpiece.

Anywho, we're getting a little off topic. Anybody know a release date for the HD-DVD?

bubbastyle123
01-23-07, 10:11 PM
The movie is the most over-hyped movie of 2006. Critics who reviewed it early on were so myopic. If you make a movie that presents political ideas which conformed to yours(namely to the critic circles) in an artful way, all the glaring flaws of the movie will be unseen. One critic on cinematical.com even proclaimed it the best movie of the century.

I don't how anyone can not be bother by the glaring illogical premises of this movie. The movie is based on the premise that no human being has been produce for some 18 years. If you follow that logic, earth will lose at least 20% of its population. Yet the movie portrayed Britain as an overcrowded country with immigrates locked in cages on the streets in London. The police state Britain government also runs Abu Ghraib-like detention centers. If I were an immigrate, why would I want make my way across a body of water and live in a police state?

The whole immigration issue was a distraction and took away the main theme of the movie. The cinematography was excellent though ...I guess there is that if you want this on HD DVD.

illogical? dude, its science-FREAKIN-fiction.

also, during the 1940s, do you think the Japanese couldve gotten away before internment camps? you're a moron. the immigrants the British are caging are the ones living in the country, just like the US. get a clue.

this movie had a pretty good story (i didn't LOVE it like some) but the acting and the directing/filming was absolutely breathtaking. 4 and a hlaf stars, easy.

SyHD
01-23-07, 11:16 PM
illogical? dude, its science-FREAKIN-fiction.

also, during the 1940s, do you think the Japanese couldve gotten away before internment camps? you're a moron. the immigrants the British are caging are the ones living in the country, just like the US. get a clue.

this movie had a pretty good story (i didn't LOVE it like some) but the acting and the directing/filming was absolutely breathtaking. 4 and a hlaf stars, easy.

Do you even know what illogical means? You mean to tell me sci-fi movies are exempt from being logical? Things can happen without plausible justifications given a set of assumptions? In any science "fiction" work whether its a book or a movie, its a given there are a set of premises you have to accept. The plot should have a logical flow from then on. Like in this movie, the premise (totally ridiculous and no reason provided) is that humans have gone some 18 years without a birth. Viewers should accept this and go from there. The plot should makes sense from then on.

Why do I even bother explaining this to someone is beyond me. The rest of your post makes no sense whatsoever. You get a clue.

Canary_Jules
01-24-07, 06:45 AM
So there's a link to the French edition of Children of Men on the French Amazon website, but as far as I can see there's nothing yet on Amazon.co.uk. Any one got a link so I can order the UK version?

rboster
01-24-07, 07:10 AM
So there's a link to the French edition of Children of Men on the French Amazon website, but as far as I can see there's nothing yet on Amazon.co.uk. Any one got a link so I can order the UK version?

I don't think anyone has said that a UK HD-DVD edition has been annouced yet. I have mentioned an SD R2 edition.

Canary_Jules
01-24-07, 07:38 AM
I don't think anyone has said that a UK HD-DVD edition has been annouced yet. I have mentioned an SD R2 edition.

Thanks for the correction - I was getting it confused with the The Prestige UK HD-DVD.