Thanks for your comments, so will the 1st. bill (if using triple play) be $300 vs. $150/month normally charged as an example?That's what I remember. If they don't do that anymore, that's fine. FYI just in case.

VHO 8 is Philly. VHO = Video Hub Office, the list:

VHO 1 – Carrolton, TX
VHO 2 – Temple Terrace, FL
VHO 3 – Pomona, CA
VHO 4 – Silver Spring, MD
VHO 5 – Queens, NY
VHO 6 – Burlington, MA (also serves Rhode Island)
VHO 7 – Freehold, NJ (northern NJ)
VHO 8 – Philadelphia, PA (Philly/Mercer Conuty/southern NJ/Delaware)
VHO 9 – Richmond, VA
VHO 9a – Norfolk, VA
VHO 10 – Ft. Wayne, IN
VHO 11 – Pittsburgh, PA
VHO 12 – Portland, OR

...WOOHOO! Just in time for the cold months. :D
That's good news! Thanks for the update.

Good news for the Flyers fans out there for tomorrow nights game , its been moved to CSN now because the phils have moved to 4:00

Great news, thanks!!! :D

The only thing will be to see if the NHL Center Ice Free-View will blackout the Flyers game tonight. My thinking is.... yes. However, there's always a chance they could mess up and show it. :p

Update: CSN-HD is now showing on the Flyer's web site. Check upcoming games: Sat 10/3 7:00 PM CSN-PH(HD)

There is a very good chance of that. I 'm still not sure if Comcast's 2nd channel will count as a traditional over the air local station for the NHL's black out rules and it just might be shown on NHL CI. If you look at the broadcast station for the game tonight on the Center Ice website it is Carolina's broadcast station so keep your fingers crossed geekgirl....

I have season tickets to the Flyers and it makes me even more angry that I cant watch some of the road games because of Comcasts garbage rules

oh BTW has anyone in this region/area gotten the new 1.7 firmware upgrade fopr the 7216 boxes? Its supposed to make the guides look better somehow

BZal-
We should see the 1.7 IMG upgrade sometime between 10/22 and 10/29

thanks jeep

thanks jeep

Thanks, jeepmatt. I think I posted this question on the Verizon HDTV thread, and I appreciate the quick response.

Is this release supposed to cure some HDMI issues? I still get occasional dropouts.

Did anyone watch the NHL-HD Network game last night (Rangers @ Pens, channel 587)?

The audio was changing in volume every few seconds. What was more worrisome was that the color seemed washed out and the color purity was off. IOW, the ice looked a bit magenta on the bottom of my display. However, CSN-HD looked OK (despite the Phillies loss :mad:).

I've got a service call in to fix a buzzing circuit board on my Samsung PN63B550 plasma, so I'm wondering if there's something else wrong. I'll fire up some test patterns, but I wanted to see if anyone noticed poor PQ on NHL Network HD.

Update: Test patterns are OK. DSL Reports are blaming NHL Network with poor audio. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23125987-NHL-Network-No-audio

There's a free preview of the NFL Red Zone channel today from 1:00 - 4:00.

Do you have any Blu-ray DVD calibration discs? If not, do you have the Verizon DVR? HD Net has weekly test patterns that you can record for playback on your STB in full 1080i. I have the "series" recorded, including repeats and keep the last 2. It's only 10 minutes long.

Sat, Sep 19 - 6:30 AM ET
3:30 AM PT HDNet Test Patterns
Wonder how your home theatre is doing? Wish you had test patterns to help set it up? Well, HDNet is here to help. This short program will help you get the most out of your home theatre setup by providing you with the same professional test patterns HDNet uses to set their gear.

Sat, Oct 3 - 6:30 AM ET
3:30 AM PT HDNet Test Patterns
Wonder how your home theatre is doing? Wish you had test patterns to help set it up? Well, HDNet is here to help. This short program will help you get the most out of your home theatre setup by providing you with the same professional test patterns HDNet uses to set their gear.

FWIW, Comcast Sportsnet HD has incredibly good PQ when they show local sports (the Phillies just finished up a homestand...:) ). HD Net's live events are also darn good. ESPN-HD comes in a close 3rd.

This is really strange. There is no formal entry in my program guide in HDNet for the test pattern at 6:30 am, however "nothing but trailers" is 40 minutes instead of 30 minutes! I would like to record this but they sure make it difficult.

Thanks, jeepmatt. I think I posted this question on the Verizon HDTV thread, and I appreciate the quick response.

Is this release supposed to cure some HDMI issues? I still get occasional dropouts.

Mike-
From reports out of TX and CA - yes, it does correct HDMI issues.

Yes, they do. Strange, I got the recording yesterday, but nothing scheduled for next week, 10/10. Nothing in the keyword search either, so I went into the guide directly. Use the fast forward / skip button ">>" to step in days. It's not in the guide. :confused: However, HDNet is OK:

Sat, Oct 10 - 6:30 AM ET 3:30 AM PT HDNet Test Patterns
Wonder how your home theatre is doing? Wish you had test patterns to help set it up? Well, HDNet is here to help. This short program will help you get the most out of your home theatre setup by providing you with the same professional test patterns HDNet uses to set their gear.

Sat, Oct 17 - 6:30 AM ET 3:30 AM PT HDNet Test Patterns
Wonder how your home theatre is doing? Wish you had test patterns to help set it up? Well, HDNet is here to help. This short program will help you get the most out of your home theatre setup by providing you with the same professional test patterns HDNet uses to set their gear.

Try searching again in a few days. Maybe it will be there. Maybe it won't. I guess that's why people are using TiVO.

There's a free preview of the NFL Red Zone channel today from 1:00 - 4:00.Thanks! The Iggles are in a bye week, so that'll give me a chance to surf.

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I caught the NHL Network-HD replays from last night's games (NHL On-the-Fly). All the replays were in SD, including the Flyers @ Devils :). While watching letter-boxed SD poor picture quality, all of the game replays had that imperfect magenta color purity problem around the bottom and sides of the ice surface.

I also saw some of that impurity on the CSN-HD game. That leads me to believe that it's not my plasma, but something about hockey ice.

NHL Center Ice HD channel PQ was fine. The SD channels were extremely poor, reminded me of watching with the RF tuner output.

I'm also looking to forward to see what the Red Zone channel offers us.

Because of the bye week, and doing some touch up work within the family room, I decided to try the Red Zone channel for the day. Not sure I'd subscribe to it, but it is interesting to get the other games if you aren't watching one of them on the usual channel. When the free time ran out shortly after 4:00PM, it clipped me of the outcome of the Cleveland vs. Cincinnati game that was tied and going to overtime. I felt like I was watching the infamous Oakland "Heidi game" again since the game wasn't broadcast in our area!

I definitely will not be subscribing. It kept jumping back and forth between the games, drove me crazy. This is geared towards fantasy football and those who need to see scores, with not so much detail how they got there.

I'll stick to following one other game + Eagles. Unless the Phillies are playing, which I hope will be for the rest of the month.

Agreed, but I didn't figure on the 'fantasy' aspect. And yes, glad I have a high def panel at my desk to dial in those afternoon games that have been thrust upon us. Let's hope for a good outcome of all series.

I had the same feelings about the Red Zone channel. I'd rather watch 1 good game then get pieces of all of them. I wouldn't pay anything additional for it, though.

To each their own! Geek - that's the exact purpose of this channel - to flip around constantly.

I for one, am also a fantasy player, but love getting to watch all of the plays. In Week 2, I actually found myself watching RZ more than the actual Eagles game.. yikes!

I for one, am also a fantasy player, but love getting to watch all of the plays.
I also loved watching the channel this weekend. I spent most of my time watching that channel alone between 1 and about 6. I did flip to the other scheduled games, but especially at 1 when there was only one game on, I loved being able to see what was happening live in the other games.

Why the audio dropouts of the Phils coverage yesterday? Anyone know if they were reported for other areas?

Why the audio dropouts of the Phils coverage yesterday? Anyone know if they were reported for other areas?

I know yesterday on Comcast, Philly, we had complete picture loss a few times, not just audio dropouts. I'm thinking the problem was at the source (possibly due to the wind) and not in the transmission.

Eric

Sun spots. TBS acknowledged that :)

And I thought only the dish stuff was affected by that...forgot that they have to beam to a sat to throw it to the various stations.

Here's a picture of the geometry: Sun solar outage tutorial (http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/satellite/solar-effects/sun-solar-outages-basics-tutorial.php), happens twice a year.

The sun is a huge transmitter of RF noise. Anything pointed at it gets blinded. Just like looking at it with your eyes, except it's at RF frequencies.

Okay, sleepy day tomorrow with the Phils starting at 10PM...makes for a long day after! Hopefully Happ can pull this off.

Yea... I'm giving up. It's 5-4 in bottom of 7th. And, I just don't think (even with the lead) they are going to pull this one off.. so I'm heading to bed.

Glad you were wrong.

Me too :)

I just watched the end of the game (of course I DVR'd it)... great job by the Phils!!!

I fell asleep around the 7th also, with about the same thought process, figuring they may not pull it out. Woke up needing to find the outcome, but I didn't record it, just went to SportsNet reruns. At least today's game may be a bit better weather, and won't need an all-nighter to get through. Good articles in today's paper about MLB needing to push for the prime-time game schedule rather than protecting the players against playing in freezing temps!

It was all about giving the stinking Yankee's the prime time coverage. If NY did not win yesterday, the Phils would have been another 10PM game tonight. Never mind that the Phillies are the reigning World Series Champions... gotta have the billionaires from the Bronx in the spotlight. Pathetic and MLB/TBS should be ashamed.

Agreed, but it will be fun if there's a Phils vs Yanks World Series. I would like to see how they stack up. Although, last year with Tampa in there, sort of proved that even the Yanks can't buy a trip to the World Series!

Nothing would make me happier for the World Series, than to have the Phils play the Yankees. Just having the Phils back again will be excellent - beating the Yankees would be icing on the cake.

:D Wow!! :D Two unbelievable games in one day. Was I the only one that stayed up? :D Lidge...., Lidge....

Charlie Manuel's a genius with that double switch for Francisco / Madson. For Francisco at least.

FWIW, the video froze for at least a second in the bottom of the 9th.

The announcers made the best comment: Jim Tracy's trying for the cycle for criticizing the umpires (he challenged calls for 1st, 2nd, 3rd).

In the bottom of the 8th - "The Rockies were T-3rd in the league for come from behind wins". In the top of the 9th - "The Phillies lead the league in come from behind wins. The Rockies are behind the Phillies in that department..."

Great win, and it was even more satisfying to see Howard provide the game winning hit. Yes, we're still getting dropouts on this feed...I find that strange, even if sunspots are happening.

The game last night has to ranked up there as one of the best all-time Phillies victories.

Charlie did another fantastic job with the pitching. The double switch was timely, too :)

Am I the only one who thinks the umpire crew for that series should be fired? Not one of them could work home plate - at least they were horrible both ways. And, they got more field calls wrong, then right. Pretty sad.

That said - it's on to the Dodgers :) I have mixed emotions there. Of course I want the Phils to win the NL... but, I grew up watching LA as a kid. When I got older and moved there, I was at the game when Kurt came out of the tunnel to hit the grand-slam.

Of course last year, I called all my Angelino friends and rubbed their noses in each Phillies victory!! I'm looking forward to that again.

Are we getting coverage of the NLCS on FOX, or TBS? I'm pretty sick of the TBS announcers. Not that McCarver and Buck are better (in some regards they are actually worse) - but, it's time for a change.

I miss Harry <sigh> :(

Looks like it's on TBS...8:00 start our time on Thursday. Wish I knew someone in LA that was a Dodgers fan to call!!! :cool: And yes, the umpiring has been horrible, but, adding that pitch screen helps us quite a bit to feel that they got the call wrong. Before this, we just thought that the camera vantage point made it difficult to judge pitches!

When I got older and moved there, I was at the game when Kurt came out of the tunnel to hit the grand-slam.
I miss Harry <sigh> :(Watched that one live on TV. Was one of the most memorable home runs I ever saw. Bottom of the 9th. LaSorda puts Kirk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Gibson) in to pinch hit. What was he thinking? He could barely walk with all his injuries. He hobbled around the bases. It's still one of the highlights shown on MLB's promos.

Harry <sigh>, as well. :(

One of my coworkers is a true Dodgers fan...

...One of my coworkers is a true Dodgers fan...
Ouch! That's not going to make for good chatter at lunch! Doesn't it seem that tomorrow night is a long way off? Bring on those Dodgers!

Great game, great win for the Phils! For this one, I didn't experience any dropouts like we had in the last series.

The only dropouts I had where when my DVR started & stopped recording - as usual :)

Great 8th inning for the Phils. Looks like they are going to need to keep putting up runs to get past LA. The bullpen is still scary!

And, so is Hamels! His mind may still be on the new baby, or hanging out with his hometown friends, and there's always that one inning that gets him in trouble! Let's hope Pedro is ready!

(Phillies) Utley! :mad: PQ was OK, but the top of the 9th had some tiling.

I'll be getting a reference comparison Sunday night - in person. :)

Update: Anyone seeing some serious frame drops during the Flyers game (CSN-HD)? Audio OK, but all of a sudden the picture went into slow motion. When the camera switched, the problem went away. Happened a few times.

Saw the blip in the top of the 9th, too. That was the only one :)

How the hell can you walk in the wining run????

There must be something wrong my my FiOS TV service. It looked like the Eagles just got destroyed by the Raiders.

No FIOS problems... it was the pigeon, the Raiders had 12 players on the field :)

Ironically, the Phils scored more points (runs) than the Eagles... and won! And, beat a good Dodger team. Unlike the doormat of the NFL that the Eagles couldn't defeat.

Quite a few drops during the game tonight, however. I swear that it's starting to get as bad as Comcrap... WTF?!?!?!?

GG - how was the view from your seats at the park? Any dropouts on the Jumbo-tron?

Okay, be honest, did you stay awake long enough to see Victorino's late smash? Yes, great game for the Phils, and Torre was a bit dumbfounded by how good Lee actually was.

The pigeon was the most entertaining part of the game, especially on the kickoff when he had "outside contain"!

I did stay up... only to watch Lee get a complete game shutout. When the Phils took the field in the 9th and Lee was not on the mound, I called it a night. I wish Charlie would have let him finish. I don't think 20+/- more pitches would have impacted his ability to hurl in game 7 if needed.

On a more annoying note... the picture breakups in the late innings were really bad!

And that friggin pigeon was offsides on the kickoff - I can't believe they didn't throw the flag :)

same here steve... wanted to see cliff go all the way...

the pigeon could have done a better job of covering the tight end than trotter did... :p at least they found a way to keep us entertained during an abysmal game... :)

I'm currently watching Philadelphia TV over a Slingbox (TV to Internet to PC) connection from the UK. FiOS is scheduled for installation next month, and I'll get the DVR. Currently I have a Comcast DVR.

Is there a list of what is available in Philadelphia on the FiOS equivalent of Comcast On Demand?

I don't think they list anything separately, but maybe JeepMatt knows where to find this information.

Waiting patiently for Wednesday night now!!! What an ending!

Not too sure on any info for VOD contents...sorry.

You could go to www.verizon.com/fiostvcentral

They usually have VOD listings there - however i'm not certain it's the entire "library".

In other news -

Look for NBA TV HD (589) and the League Pass channels to show up next Tuesday (10/27).

Epix SD/HD (395/895) should launch on 10/30.

Epix should be an interesting channel addition to the movies lineup. Looking forward to some more selections.

Looks like middle sixties weather for the end of next week, so the series won't be faced with the Colorado thing! Hopefully the Phils play the Yanks, and then win it all in five at home!

Looks like middle sixties weather for the end of next week, so the series won't be faced with the Colorado thing! Hopefully the Phils play the Yanks, and then win it all in five at home!
Hopefully this will NOT happen as I have 2 Field Level tickets for Game 6 at Yankee Stadium.

Let's hope that whatever the game count ends up, FOX will do a better job than TBS from a broadcast perspective. PQ/AQ was fine... but, the announcing crew for TBS was complete sh*t.

Agreed! For those not aware, 97.5 FM is now the ESPN station on radio, along with 950 AM, and they will be broadcasting the Phils World Series games. I'm not sure what the broadcast team will be, but imagine it's a national crew, and possibly just a simulcast of the Fox crew.

I can live with Buck and McCarver... at least they understand the game (and McCarver will have a little bias toward his old team) :)

There would probably be an audio delay, trying to get sound from another source, too <sigh>

Thanks! I didn't know that 97.5 FM was carrying the Phillies world series. I've got AM reception problems, so this is a b-i-g help.

BTW, my Sunday (1st home game) PQ reference calibration, lower level by 3rd base, was unbeLEEvable. :D

The NBA HD / League Pass rollout appears to be going well in the rest of the country.

So well, we got moved up a day and should see it go live on Monday, 10/26.

I'm also told the Epix channels should show up that day as well, however i'm not sure if it will have programming prior to 10/30.

GG, were you one of the women holding up the BeLEEve signs?

Jeep, any word on when we can expect the 1.7 Guide to roll out?

Did they do any upgrades in the past few days? The other day my mom's STB came on in the middle of the night (sound only, no video) and scared her to death. She lives with us and is confined to her bed, and a zombie movie started playing in the other room!

Then the next day the same STB said I had to reboot the main DVR, and when I did that, it looked like it was loading something, though I've never watched it boot up so maybe it always does that after rebooting.

Jim,
The 1.7 rollout is halted at the moment. From what i've been told, they released it in TX and CA - and received feedback of new HDMI issues and VOD failures.

I'm not aware of any new dates at this time. We've already blown past our 1st two assigned dates (8/28 and 9/23) for our VHO.

No, I was far away from all those signs.

Has anyone noticed several widgets (including the Bazaar) is missing? :confused:

Last night I tried pulling up the weather bug and got a blank rectangle where the weather used to be. Also with Fantasy Football, Red Zone and the Bazaar. When I tried getting Sudoku I got the message ..

"Your set Top Box is unable to retrieve data at this time."

No Facebook or Twitter? :mad:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23233192

I'm not alone. :p ;) :cool:

NBA TV HD (589)
Along with the League Pass HD (1489) and remaining LP channels are live this morning.

Also, Epix SD/HD (395/895) are now in the guide - however i'm receiving a "Not Subscribed" message.

Others in VHO4 reported the same thing, so i'm not sure if this is an indication that VZ will be charging us separately for Epix, or if it's simply a matter of the billing codes not being fully updated yet.

DrewDawg-
The widgets were down for most of Saturday across the VHO - they were back by yesterday morning.

I've also been given the "unsubscribed" message, and I have the full tier of movie channels.

Last night VOD was down, too. Not that Verizon has much VOD to even choose from.

Is anyone else seeing white sparklies on the Phils/Yanks game in the bottom of the 2nd? It's really bad.

Oh... wait... that's the rain :)

Go Phils!!!!

Nice! And yes, the weatherman may have been off a bit when he stated the rain had stopped! Great game, and now we wait for tonight.

PQ was pretty good on Fox, except for the freeze in the 9th inning, that lasted several seconds. The 3 screen split view has to go, though. That's just horrible. It comes back to the main view right as the pitch is ready to leave - making it hard to adjust to the view. So was the part where they were showing Jeter and the main view in little windows with the rest of the screen filled with junk. That was pretty friggin stupid!!!

This was just received as an email for the Weekly Spotlight. Looks like ePix is not coming bundled with the movie tier:

ePiX Sneak Peek
New channel EPIX launches this weekend with a FREE preview on Verizon FiOS starting Friday, Oct 30th at 8:00 p.m. ET with the world television premiere of Iron Man. The powerhouse weekend continues through midnight on Sunday with over a dozen other world television premiere movies and events like The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and Madonna Sticky & Sweet: Live from Buenos Aires. And EPIX is too big for just your television screen. In addition to channel 395 and 895 in HD, EPIX movies and events are On Demand and Online as part of the preview and for one low monthly subscription starting Monday, Nov 2nd.

I thought that 3 screen view was fairly innovative, but you needed to listen to Tim McCarver's explanation. I didn't have a problem following it. Got a bit worried with the signal dropouts, but it looked like it was from the network.

I dunno about that split screen. Watching the game now and they are over using it and coming back to the full screen play at the last possible moment (just barely in time for the pitch). It's the same thing when they do that uber-zoom in on the batter and/or the pitcher.

Maybe it's just me, but if they came back to the play just a little sooner before the pitch, I wouldn't find it so offensive.

Damn it!!!! Matsui just 5-ironed a deuce over the wall in right, to give the Yankees the lead.

Good game if not the outcome we would have preferred. I had to agree with the announcers though...relatively boring game. I think they called it "efficient"??? Give me "exciting", if that's possible with baseball. The excitement seemed to come with the blown calls by the umps!

We're just about in the quiet period - so there should not be anything too exciting for the rest of 2009.

Next wave of new national HD's will occur in 2010 (no dates as of yet)

We're still not getting the 1.7 update this year?

Sad day here...the Lions were truly spanked by the Buckeyes! That hurts! :(

It's not all bad, Temple has won 7 in a row (http://www.owlsports.com/news/2009/11/5/FB_1105090544.aspx). :p

I was at the Eagles game (or what passed for an attempt at a game) last night. The picture was messing up on the big screens every now & then. Once, during a critical review of a play it froze. So the guy sitting behind me said, "They must be getting a Comcast feed." The guy next to me, doesn't miss a beat, turns around and answers, "Nope - it has to be FIOS. The guide sucks!!!!"

Worst.... game.... ever!

At least there was some humor in the stands!

Yeah GG, Al Golden is doing great! Good for him.

I'm just glad I didn't have to pay for the tickets... $95 in section 114. Corner of the end zone, lower level. spent the whole game watching the Jumbotron. You can't see anything that isn't inside the 30 - going your way. $20 to park. $6.75 for a plastic cup of piss-beer. $4.75 for an "Eagles-dog"". Say what you will about the "experience" of live games - this was a complete waste of money. Staying home and watching the game on my 141 - priceless!!!

Once again, I am firmly convinced the best seats for football are right in front of my TV, with a FIOS HD feed :)

I'll watch tonight's Steelers/Bronco's game on my comfy sofa, with real beer and some good food and friends.

Yes, the problem with free tickets is the cost of compensation at the vending spots! "Thanks for the tix, I'll buy lunch!" It's cheaper to buy the tickets! I do like the Linc though, almost as much as Citizens Bank. Nice facilities.

JeepMatt, is there anything we can look forward to within the next couple months? Nothing seems to be happening with the upgrade to 1.7.

Hey Jim-

Things should be quiet for the remainder of the year channel-wise.

As far as IMG 1.7 - my latest word is that we may see it here on 12/9 - but don't hold me to that just yet. The latest push of the 3rd version of 1.7 seems to have been the charm, so to speak. I'll post back here if I hear anything different.

So no MSNBC until next year sometime? I wish they'd push that through so I could watch everything in high def...it's just that one channel that I need!

MSNBC-HD may be even longer than that! VZ has publicly stated that until Cablevision gives up their NYC stranglehold, they will not offer the channel in HD to anyone. It's more a less a middle-finger to both CV and MSNBC for even signing the deal to begin with.

Ouch! I guess the most we can hope for is that Comcast, when they buy the network, will void all other cable agreements! Of course, then there will be a lengthy negotiation period with Verizon! Looks like I'll be watching the channel in standard def for the next decade!

I received 1.7 this morning as part of the "soft-rollout".

Everything seems to be working fine so far. Nothing major - just a few little enhancements here and there.

Matt - is the "vertical lines on scene changes" glitch still there?

Steve-
Didn't get to watch anything on the main TV (DVR) where I saw it previously. I'll check it out tonight when i get home from work.

7100 HD box was fine though in the bedroom.

Did you see the lines on the 7100? Or just the DVR?

I have 1.6.2 currently. All seems fine, but what does 1.7 add?

I really like this compared to Comcast.....

I have 1.6.2 currently. All seems fine, but what does 1.7 add?

I really like this compared to Comcast.....

Everything you ever wanted to know about 1.7 can be found here (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22893829-IMG-17-IMG-Updates-and-Discussion) :)

Only saw it on the DVR.

CKarras-
You won't see too many new things with 1.7 - but it's laying the groundwork for things to come. Initially, there are some new menu items, VOD "suggestions" - a full screen "Info" page (instead of having to page down previously), and some other behind the scenes updates.

Eventually there will be Caller ID added (being tested now in TX) for which 1.7 was a pre-req.

SteveC-
Did not see any glitching last night on the DVR. Maybe 1.7 fixed it?

That's good news Matt. I'll let you know when I get 1.7 if things improve here.

So that explains why all my digital adapters were reset yesterday. I'm at 1.6.2 on my HD DVR (QIP6416).

Was offline for 2 days while my 63" plasma got a panel replacement due to a "pink haze" problem. Basically, they swap out everything except the frame, power supply, and an audio board (the "sub" as the tech calls it).

It's one of the those problems that creeps up on you and all of a sudden you wonder why the ice surface (hockey) looks a bit pink. As soon as the display powered up, the gray scale just looked right. Break-in period again, but now the PQ is that much better.

FWIW - If anyone needs warranty service for Samsung or Panasonic, I recommend RTA Services in Philly (they service the whole area). The techs know what they're doing. I got a 2 day turn-around when they had to take the display to their shop to replace the panel. Even though it's in-home service, they wanted to take care of a major repair like this in the shop in case there was a problem. They waited until they got the panel in the shop before they picked up my display. It was safely transported in heavy blankets, vertically, on its stand. They even restored my user adjustments in the new panel.

I guess that's a good news - bad news story, GG.

Glad to hear that things are good now, but sorry to hear that it happened in the first place. Is that a known problem with your panel? I can't say that I have ever heard that problem before.

It's not common. Took me a while to find it in the plasma forum. Still have the buzz problem, but that's OT for this thread. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1144869&page=70

Do you ever see the symptoms (horizontal lines during some scene changes) that I posted above? If you haven't noticed them and now you do, I'm sorry for pointing it out. My wife never noticed it until I mentioned it; now she bitches at me, for bringing it to her attention, every time she sees it :)

Looks like Matt had the problem, too. And, apparently 1.7 resolved his issue. Waiting to see if the 1.7 push for me will fix it. I have not yet received a reply on the DSL Direct Forum to the ticket I opened a few days ago - disappointing.

...My wife never noticed it until I mentioned it....
Like your wife, I too am blocking anything you post so I can enjoy my FiOS!!! ;)

What vertical lines on scene changes? I'll keep an eye out. My better half just looks the other way...

Wow. What an improvement in PQ on tonight's NHL Network-HD game (Hockey Night in Canada special edition of 100 years for the Canadiens). Better than CSN-HD, which is hard to believe. I'm picking up some motion blur on the board ads when they show a close-up.

What I do notice is a small amount of "noise" during full white. Maybe it's the difficulty of building a 63" panel. Maybe it's the break-in. Maybe I should have sprung for the Kuro, but they only go to 60". :p

Size matters?!?!?!?!?!? :) It's only 3"!!!

I think your white noise is young phosphors. The motion blur most likely the camera. I see that from time to time with sporting events, depending on the venue, network, location... some cameras are not always set up properly and others are, just well - dialed. There was a (IMHO) pretty big difference in the camera quality, between the playoffs and the finals in this years World Series.

Hopefully, as you approach 100-150 hours, your (replacement) panel will settle in nicely.

Yes it does. My previous display was a 67" DLP, so I'm down-sized already.

Motion blur is some sort of compression / motion processing on the source material, but just thought to mention it. I'll check against the Flyers game tonight on CSN-HD. Washington Caps are in town.

Young phosphors? Makes sense, as I also see it on the gray test patterns. I found a thread that gave some explanations, under the topic of "video noise": video noise Panasonic plasma vs samsung lcd (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1083055). The Kuro is mentioned...

I found that my 141 PQ improved dramatically after the 150 hour mark. It was great to begin with but, and this may be due to the fact that I calibrated it after 150 hours, the grayscale tracking and overall uniformity improved significantly. Plasma technology, unlike LCD/DLP is unique in this aspect. That is why the first several hundred hours are when the panel is most susceptible to IR/Burn-In. The risk tails off significantly once past there. "Young Phosphors" may be the wrong wording, but the reasoning is sound.

Motion blur on plasmas is virtually non-existent - especially compared to LCD (and certain DLP technologies). Where I noticed it most was with Comcast compressed feeds. With FIOS (and no compression), I only see the effect of poor camera calibration and/or if the content is bad at the source (generally, live-feed).

e.g. CSN-HD is a pretty bad source. I've always felt that channel was one of the worst offenders, even with a FIOS feed. I can't say for sure, but I am guessing that they may be altering (compression?) at the source and/or the feed is pre-compressed.

Then something must have changed with Comcast's PQ, as the games broadcast from the Wachovia center were hands down the best I have seen on FiOS. I'll do some comparisons against NHL Network HD (Hockey Night in Canada).

I forgot to add ABL (absolute brightness limiter) as a limitation. Here's a good thread on Plasma dithering (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1170145)

A quick update. I was somewhat disappointed to see that Comcast Sportsnet's HD broadcast of the Flyers game seemed soft compared to what I remember. The NHL Network HD game was a tiny bit softer, so CSN is better. Not by much.

I'll wait till the plasma break-in period is over to comment on the overall PQ.

Looks like the 1.7 rollout was pushed out 1 day....you should all see it overnight tonight.

(Not sure of what caused the 'delay')

Everyone in the region should have 1.7 as of this morning. Enjoy!

Yep... so far, a non-event. Didn't see anything "new & improved". Don't do widgets or other junk. so didn't even look at that stuff :)

Yep... so far, a non-event. Didn't see anything "new & improved". Don't do widgets or other junk. so didn't even look at that stuff :)

Much faster 'fast forward/rewind'; re-boot from remote; full menus...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Verizon-FiOS-Customers-Get-prnews-1794452998.html?x=0&.v=1

Took a quick look at the advertisement bazaar. Kinda reminiscent of my old Commodore 64. Nothing worthwhile. Waste of space.

Looks like they used the horoscope from astrology.com. Well, it was wrong for today. Not only that, it starts with Cancer and proceeds in alphabetical order. Either they do it right (by zodiac progression), or fix Cancer to go after Aries (alphabetically). I guess it's on par with the quality of the IMG. I'm guessing that TiVO's horoscopes are more accurate and in the right order.

Yup - like I said... Yawn!

At least they didn't **** anything up (yet) :)

Matt,

Do you still have the horizontal lines issue? I was hoping 1.7 might (magically) fx this, but they're still there for me.

Steve-
I have not seen it since the 1.7 push. Do you have a 6xxx DVR or a 7xxx DVR?

Matt - I have the 6xxx DVR. I returned my 7xxx because of the HDMI issues. I'm not sure if I had the problem with the 7xxx, that was a while ago and I only started noticing it a few months ago.

I opened a ticket on DSL Direct forums on 11/30... it's still unanswered.

Has anyone discovered any interesting features of the 1.7 update?

Should we be seeing the "Caller ID" feature anytime soon, and is it related to which version of the cable box you have???

Do you ever see the symptoms (horizontal lines during some scene changes) that I posted above? If you haven't noticed them and now you do, I'm sorry for pointing it out. My wife never noticed it until I mentioned it; now she bitches at me, for bringing it to her attention, every time she sees it :)

Looks like Matt had the problem, too. And, apparently 1.7 resolved his issue. Waiting to see if the 1.7 push for me will fix it. I have not yet received a reply on the DSL Direct Forum to the ticket I opened a few days ago - disappointing.

VZ is sending me a replacement DVR. I hope that solves this problem, without causing any other problems. I asked for another 6XXX box, but on the odd chance they send me a 7XXX - were the HDMI drops/burps fixed in 1.7 for these boxes?

New 6XXX DVR... same problem.

Arggghhhhhh :(

I believe that your home is smitten! ;)

If the problem DIDN'T exhibit itself with my -83, I'd suspect (Yikes!) the 141. But, BD/DVD playback is flawless, so I swapped the HDMI cables - same. Swapped inputs on the AVR - same. It has to a FIOS problem.

Sigh!

The motorola boxes are crap with HDMI signals. No getting around it. I broke down and went with component when the box shut video output off in the middle of the super bowl... It lost the handshake right in the middle of a big play with a room full of guests. I've tried both the 6400 series and the 7200 series, and I hate them both. Cannot wait for the new boxes that are supposedly going to be rolled out in the future

Did anyone else notice that the FiOS signal made the Eagles look terrible yesterday? :(

I had the same the same problem :(

I think it was...

(McNabb + Reid) + (Big Game) = Failure

This formula repeats itself over and over and over and.....

I suspect they are going to rerun the game next weekend, too.

Here's hoping they can recall how they played the last game of last year! I prefer seeing the chest bumps with Andy versus the moping around of McNabb after a bad play.

They had a closeup of McNabb in the first offensive series, and he just looked like he didn't want to be there.

Like Joe Banner, I am growing tired of the same result year after year. Reid gets slammed pretty regularly, but he's not on the field. If they could execute his plan, they would be successful.

Here's hoping Saturday night's result is different, but I don't think so...

There's a message on my box that Verizon is fixing some of the local channel number, like ABC will move from 514 to 506.

BCarlsen-
Yep - it's supposed to happen on 1/14 - but I haven't heard any confirm from my VHO contacts.

The move should help align things with the "standard + 500" rule for the channel numbers, but it's also helpful for the 3, 6, and 10 memory. It would be actually more helpful if cable providers all used the same numbering system. My biggest pet peeve is traveling around the country and never knowing where to find a station, but that also holds true for being at a friend's house that has another provider, and needing to ask where the channels are.

That's cause we're old & need all the help we can get.

I'm looking forward to 503, 506 & 510. Other than the fact that I'll have to reprogram my Harmony's favorite channel icons (again) :)

I thought I'd come here this morning and resurrect and old problem that SteveC had with ABC HD...audio dropouts! The BCS game audio was interrupted several times with this, and it's really the first time that I was aware of it, and realized that it's probably within their system as Steve has mentioned before. It really was annoying, but didn't ruin what was a fine game!

I didn't watch the BCS game, but I can testify that I have observed problems with WPVI's audio on the HD channel since 2004. I have seen these problems on OTA, Comcast and Verizon.

If anyone remembers back to the first season of 'Lost', the constant audio dropouts (and worse!) were infuriating.

Last year, ABC had a show called 'In the Motherhood'. For about half of one episode, the center channel dialog was missing from the show. The music cues and laugh track were there, but no dialog!

I've recently noticed a 'ticking' sound in the surround speakers on a few ABC programs. I DVR's the cartoon 'Prep & Landing' for the little guy, and the ticking was constant thru the whole show. I noticed it again this past week on 'Modern Family,' along with several audio dropouts.

I doubt these are ABC Network issues, because people in other parts of the country would be complaining more. I guess WPVI STILL isn't that interested in their HD viewers...

-Dan
Westmont, NJ

It's definitely WPVI. Thanks to bandwidth stealing for that piece of **** "Live Well" sub-channel, we not only get crap audio (PL, not Dolby Digital) for all non-prime-time material, but also the annoying ticks, pops and dropouts all the time.

They also apparently do not know how to use limiting technology for audio. If I hear that ****ing "Pennsylvania Lottery -eee" song at +120Db one more time, I think I will just scream :)

In the HD thread for the BCS game, many guys wrote about the poor audio, and not just on FiOS, but with OTA and Comcast also. They stated that rather than DD, the audio was something known as Circle Surround, but I'm not aware of what that is. So, it could be an ABC/ESPN network problem, but we seem to be stuck with it for now!

I agree with the WFIL commercial problems though. Last night each local commercial suddenly was very loud, and those are obviously intertwined by the local channel.

I set up my 58S1 and seem to be experiencing IR interference between the TV and the Verizon Fios STB. I guess this is an issue with some plasma TVs. My Panasonic plasma in my bedroom does not have this problem. The remote control does not respond sometimes. My remote control is very unresponsive when I go into the program guide and try and scroll through time. Does anyone have a fix for this? Anyone else with Verizon Fios experience this problem? I hope it's fixable because it"s extremely annoying. Thanks for your help in advance!

I noticed that FIOS re-ran the Eagles game from last week again last night.

Definition of insanity: "doing the same things over and over again, expecting different results."

My Sammy plasma is now broken in. Fantastic picture. I could see every blade of grass when (I forget who and it doesn't matter anyway) had the ball stripped from him to cause a clean fumble. :mad:

...Definition of insanity: "doing the same things over and over again, expecting different results."
Yeah, and it wasn't "insanely great" as Steve Jobs often says! Good call on the repeat...glad I was out for the evening and missed the first half, and also glad I forgot to set the DVR to record that mess!

GG, glad the Samsung is working out for you.

I noticed that FIOS re-ran the Eagles game from last week again last night.

Definition of insanity: "doing the same things over and over again, expecting different results."

I gave Any Reid too much credit. All week he was saying that the game plan was OK and they just didn't execute. I really thought he was just keeping his game plan a secret... turns out his game plan was to hope the Cowboys wouldn't play as well as they did last week.

My Sammy plasma is now broken in. Fantastic picture. I could see every blade of grass when (I forget who and it doesn't matter anyway) had the ball stripped from him to cause a clean fumble. :mad:

Now it's time for a calibration :)

The local HD moves should occur tomorrow morning.

CBS HD will move to 503 (from 511)
ABC HD will move to 506 (from 514)
PBS HD will move to 523 (from 515)

After weeks of struggling with the "brief/faint horizontal lines on some scene changes" problem - I have finally discovered the cause and fixed it :)

I have a Panamax M5300-EX power unit. It has several banks of isolated outlets, to (supposedly) keep components from cross-contaminating each other. Long story short, I had my 141, the DVR and the router plugged into the same bank. They ended up this way, largely because of the wall-wart plug for the Action-Tek's router supply cord requiring extra physical space.

The problem went away when I removed the wall-wart from the same bank as the DVR and 141. I was able to verify this by plugging it back in and recreating the problem.

So, to eliminate the wall-wart from "contaminating" any other component connected to the Panamax, I got a single outlet surge and use it directly in the wall outlet with the router's wall-wart, leaving the rest of my A/V components connected to the Panamax.

I feel like an idiot for not finding this sooner... or, at least attempting to see if power could have been the problem.

Maybe if I had a $1000 power cord for my 141, this problem would not have happened in the first place :)

Anyway - FYI. I think a couple people may have seen these symptoms, too.

Wow, all this time and it was something so simple within your own setup. Now write a letter of apology to Verizon and Motorola, and everything will be square. EE overthink???

Definitely over application of science here :)

Never let simple solution possibilities get in the way of complicated, over engineered attempts at solving a problem.

What really puzzled me was the fact that I *never* saw any symptoms, or had a problem with this when using the -83 to watch movies. I guess that led me down the primrose path of (wrongly?) concluding that it HAD to be a FIOS problem, of sorts.

And, in the end it was... it was their crappy wall-wart, hemorrhaging and spewing garbage back out into the AC. Since the wart, 141 and DVR were all in the same bank and the problem never happened when viewing content from the -83, I now conclude that the DVR was picking up the spew, not the 141.

It's amazing how a $0.49 component can ruin thousands of dollars worth of sophisticated HT electronics.

I almost fell on the floor this morning...

Not only were the new channels mapped in, but my Favorites was updated - removing the old channels and adding the new ones in their place.

Even more surprising was that when viewing my upcoming scheduled recordings, they were all mapped to record on the NEW channels. I expected to have to go and modify all of them manually.

WTF is with this.... I mean, after all, this is FIOS It wasn't painful, nor was it screwed up. I don't know whether to be happy or sad. Next thing you know, they will give us a new and accurate guide provider.

Worlds collide!!!!

Does anyone know if there is a simple way to switch from an SD channel to its HD counterpart? In other words, if I'm watching HBO, can I use the remote to jump to HBO HD?

...Next thing you know, they will give us a new and accurate guide provider....
That may be asking too much!!
...can I use the remote to jump to HBO HD?
Yes, just key in the same number but add 500 to it! ;) Short of that, there's no HD button to push.

I almost fell on the floor this morning...

Not only were the new channels mapped in, but my Favorites was updated - removing the old channels and adding the new ones in their place.

I had to re-boot.

I was planning on updating the programming to my universal remote now that the Big Three moved over to the new station numbers, but beyond that there have been a few other changes since the last time I did this. I can't find the mailer Verizon sent out, and their site for some reason doesn't even list some of the older updates I have (like AMC HD). Does anyone know of an up to date set of accurate channel listings for our area on-line?

South Eastern PA FiOS Channel Lineup (http://www22.verizon.com/Residential/FiOSTV/ChannelLineup/ChannelLineup.htm?zipCode=19343)

Yep, that the same place I went to. Notice that it doesn't even show AMC HD yet.

Go to that link and click on the "Print channel lineup" link. It's more up to date.

Anyone have a list of QAM capable channels available from Verizon FIOS (i.e. does not need a converter box but can be tuned by say a Hauppauge 2250 tuner)?

Thanks.

Here's a list I posted about a year ago. It may have changed since then, but I doubt it.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15430262#post15430262

Thanks. Can you clarify, do you need the digital adapter that Verizon gave you to get those QAM channels? I wouldn't think so as the channels shouldn't be decrypted, but perhaps I am missing something. Basically what I want to know is which channels are available to me by plugging a QAM tuner (either TV or Tuner card) directly into the coax cable with no Verizon equipment attached to it.

Thanks. Can you clarify, do you need the digital adapter that Verizon gave you to get those QAM channels? I wouldn't think so as the channels shouldn't be decrypted, but perhaps I am missing something. Basically what I want to know is which channels are available to me by plugging a QAM tuner (either TV or Tuner card) directly into the coax cable with no Verizon equipment attached to it.

Correct, you don't need a digital adapter to get those channels. Verizon gave me 3 digital adapters when I signed up with no monthly charge. Those adapters allow me to get several hundred more channels (all in SD) than I would get with just a QAM tuner. I don't think Verizon is giving away the adapters anymore - I think they cost around $3/month now. I'm not currently using my QAM tuners at all. I have HD boxes from Verizon on my 2 HD TVs and I use digital adapters on my 2 SD TVs.

Correct, you don't need a digital adapter to get those channels. Verizon gave me 3 digital adapters when I signed up with no monthly charge. Those adapters allow me to get several hundred more channels (all in SD) than I would get with just a QAM tuner. I don't think Verizon is giving away the adapters anymore - I think they cost around $3/month now. I'm not currently using my QAM tuners at all. I have HD boxes from Verizon on my 2 HD TVs and I use digital adapters on my 2 SD TVs.

Thanks for following up, but I must admit to continued confusion. You say "Correct, you don't need a digital adapter to get those channels." but then later in your response you mention "Those adapters allow me to get several hundred more channels (all in SD) than I would get with just a QAM tuner.". Perhaps a better way to ask is, do I get anything through QAM only tuner (no Verizon equipment attached) other than the major networks NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, PBS, CW (and perhaps a few secondary channels), or am I restricted to just those channels mentioned above and anything else would require verizon equipment?

Thanks.

As I remember, for the one TV that I tried a direct connection without a box, I only received a few local channels...maybe around a dozen or so. The digital adapter allowed me to receive the entire tier of standard def channels. For the $3 per month, it's a no-brainer to just add the box.

Has anyone called Verizon to discuss the new tiers...Ultimate vs. Extreme? Were you given any savings to switch to that?

As I remember, for the one TV that I tried a direct connection without a box, I only received a few local channels...maybe around a dozen or so. The digital adapter allowed me to receive the entire tier of standard def channels. For the $3 per month, it's a no-brainer to just add the box.

Has anyone called Verizon to discuss the new tiers...Ultimate vs. Extreme? Were you given any savings to switch to that?

I'm a new customer (install on the 29th). I was able to get them to agree to $50 off for the first year (Extreme Triple Play Bundle), only one year contract so I can shop around afterwards (no major complaints about Comcast, just trying to find the best price).

Perhaps a better way to ask is, do I get anything through QAM only tuner (no Verizon equipment attached) other than the major networks NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, PBS, CW (and perhaps a few secondary channels), or am I restricted to just those channels mentioned above and anything else would require verizon equipment? Thanks.You'll get broadcast and a bunch of unencrypted channels. It's up to Verizon to decide which channels to encrypt, which is when you need a box. Sports and the premium channels are definitely encrypted.

You can search this thread for a list, but it's probably out of date by now. Also on DSL Reports.com Why do QAM Channels change locations? (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23607490-Why-do-QAM-Channels-change-loc) Search the DSL Reports.com Verizon FiOS forum (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/vzfiostv) for "QAM tuner".

Thanks for following up, but I must admit to continued confusion. You say "Correct, you don't need a digital adapter to get those channels." but then later in your response you mention "Those adapters allow me to get several hundred more channels (all in SD) than I would get with just a QAM tuner.". Perhaps a better way to ask is, do I get anything through QAM only tuner (no Verizon equipment attached) other than the major networks NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, PBS, CW (and perhaps a few secondary channels), or am I restricted to just those channels mentioned above and anything else would require verizon equipment?

Thanks.

The short answer is that you can get the channels I listed without Verizon equipment. My response mentioned digital adapters because I don't currently use my QAM tuners - every TV I use has a Verizon box connected to it. I could have used my QAM tuners, but I have no need for them.

Thanks for the feedback. My plan right now is to use my OTA antenna (I get all the locals that way) for my QAM tuners, and the Cable Card will fill my need for "cable" channels. I'm using a HTPC with 3 QAM tuners and will implement the new Centon 4 stream tuner to fullfill my home needs (use extenders on most of the TVs).

Just to keep our thread fresh...

Nothing really new to report as of today, 2/1.

ION Worship was removed from 494 (decision made by ION - nothing to do with VZ).

I'm not aware of anything new channel wise in the near-term, unfortunately. Also, no information yet as to when Caller ID will be released to our VHO.

Setanta Sports (1009) will cease operations on 2/28 - no word yet if the channel will be replaced with the Fox Soccer Plus channel, which is set to launch on 3/1.

My sources have been way too quiet lately! It would be nice to see another handful or two of HD's added at some point - but getting that info is like getting to read the KFC secret recipe - it just isn't happening! :D

(Also posted in the Verizon HDTV thread) This is your reminder for the 5th remaining :( shuttle launch. Early AM, one of those awesome night-time views. In the IMG, HDNet. Weather is 80% go.

Sun, Feb 7 - 4:00 AM ET 1:00 AM PT NASA on HDNet - LIVE!
Space Shuttle Endeavour STS-130 Launch - Live from Cape Canaveral, Florida, HDNet presents coverage of the launch of Space Shuttle Endeavour. The crew of Endeavour will deliver the 'Tranquility' module to the International Space Station. This will mark the 130th shuttle mission since the program started in 1981; only five launches remain before the program is shut down at the end of the year.

You can also catch the repeat: Sun, Feb 7 - 11:00 AM ET 8:00 AM PT NASA on HDNet

Latest Space Shuttle News (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html)
Remaining Shuttle Launches (http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/418353main_Remaining%20Shuttle_12-09.pdf)

NASA TV live coverage starts 11:30 PM ET Saturday night...

Too bad they couldn't work this in as a "flyover" for the Super Bowl!!! :D

Had FIOS installed this past Thursday and no problems with the boxes. Went to put a Digital TV (with QAM tuner) on the service and did the scan. Said it found 50+ channels, but they are all blank channels. What's odd is they are listed as 3-63278 and so forth vs. the usual 8-1 I'm used to through OTA and Comcast (I'm in the Harrisburg market).

As I understood it, channels 0-20 or 30 were supposed to be unencrypted and the broadcast channels would also come in via QAM. Just running a COAX from the splitter to the TV with no luck. Any suggestions?

It took me a few scans on my PRO940 to get the in-the-clear channels to work. And, yes... you will have to get used to them displayed as 63.875, etc. FIOS doesn't remap. Before you rescan, try powering your TV off/on. Sometimes when I power on, I cannot get a channel to display. Power cycling usually solves that.

While it was a big surprise to me (based on prior info), be on the lookout for MSNBC-HD this coming week on Channel 603. (Most likely Thursday).

They will be using the QAM space previously used by Red Zone HD.

Also, was able to get a tentative date for Caller ID - 1st week of March.

Finally, now that everyone has IMG 1.7, the rollout of 1.7.1 will now begin, with our area seeing it late Feb (soft launch), early March (remaining rollout).

FYI - Shuttle scrubbed due to weather (what happened to that 80% chance on Friday? :p).

Next launch attempt for Monday, Feb. 8 at 4:14 a.m. EST. Probably will need to set DVR for manual recording.

While it was a big surprise to me (based on prior info), be on the lookout for MSNBC-HD this coming week on Channel 603. (Most likely Thursday).

They will be using the QAM space previously used by Red Zone HD.

Also, was able to get a tentative date for Caller ID - 1st week of March.

Finally, now that everyone has IMG 1.7, the rollout of 1.7.1 will now begin, with our area seeing it late Feb (soft launch), early March (remaining rollout).

Thanks for the updates Matt :)

Yawn, for MSNBC-HD.

CID... let's hope it works better than it does (did) for the oyher VHO's that have it currently.

What's up with 1.7.1? Is that just the CID add, or are there other features/fixes?

Steve-
1.7.1 addresses new HDMI issues that 1.7 introduced, gets rid of the "stretched" guide on the 7xxx series boxes, and a few other fixes.

CID is just an add-on...isn't a part of 1.7.1

Matt, for me, that's good news about MSNBC. That's my morning show, and while the PQ has been very good on the 103 channel, for an SD that is, I'll be very happy that this is now available. Previously, we thought there was some problem with them being able to offer this, so this really is good news.

On a side note, my daughter and her husband ventured to the launch with tickets to be inside the site. They had to drive from DC due to the flights being cancelled, and then the launch was scrubbed. They weren't able to stay over for the next day's schedule, and missed the event, although, with the cloud cover, they wouldn't have had the full effect of the night launch.

For those of you that watch the ION network channel - I believe it's Channel 18 in our VHO (honestly, I've never watched the station) - we'll be seeing the HD version of that added to Channel 518 on 2/22.

For those that follow the DSL Reports website, other regions of the country have been implementing the local version of the station in HD over the past few weeks. 2/22 will be our turn.

Enjoy.

I'm not sure how many programs are truly HD on MSNBC, but last night, and this morning, I wasn't too impressed with the PQ. Seems many of the inserted video of the guests is still SD, and with the Matthews show, it just appeared to be a stretched SD to fill the screen. I need to judge this over the next few weeks, and with the SD channel being very clear video, it's especially difficult to know if it's other than true high def, in part.

My fios went out today, I called and did the usual, couldn't get it back so a now have a tech coming monday.

My question, would they have known or told me if this was a larger outage that possibly may get fixed sooner?

I really hate having no Tv and having to use the cell phone for Internet.

I'm in the marshalton Chester county area.

I've never had Verizon notify me of an outage. Remember that we're recovering from lots of storm damage. I'd cut them some slack this time around.

When you said you did the "usual", did you reboot the ONT (disconnect the backup battery - search the Verizon FiOS forum on DSLreports.com for the technique)? I assume that the fiber cable to your house hasn't been cut. The ONT will show you the status, but you have to open the customer access panel to see the LEDs. If you're not sure, best to leave it for the tech.

Yep, rebooted the ONT.

Afterwards I found the problem. There are four utility poles that are just to bring the utilities to my house.

For the second time in about two years, the fios cable, and only the fios cable snapped and is laying on the ground. The cable is real lightweight, I am wondering if what is running down the four poles is the typical "on the pole" wire as it doesn't seem very robust. It appears to be the same cable that they run underground, although of course there it is protected by being run in another " outer sheath", or whatever they call that orange stuff.

Maybe the cable was the shortest of the wires and took the brunt of the force. It's fairly strong stuff, but probably not as strong as regular coax in terms of being pulled apart. Here's a thread from DSL Reports: Snow, your FIOS cable drop, and you.... (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23785065-Snow-your-FIOS-cable-drop-and-you)

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I'm watching women's ice hockey on CNBC, Finland vs. Russia. I don't think the level of play is diminished because checking isn't allowed in women's hockey. It's just different. Good game. Great PQ.

It's been awhile since we've subscribed to FiOS, and I can't remember what the battery life is supposed to be. With the power outage the other day, my battery died at about 12 hours, rendering my phone landlines dead. Is this the normal period of battery life?

Jim-
I believe they state 8 hours of battery life - so if you got 12 - you were lucky!

Thanks Matt, so, another conspiracy to make you subscribe to cell phones also for when your battery runs out prematurely??? ;)

Maybe the cable was the shortest of the wires and took the brunt of the force. It's fairly strong stuff, but probably not as strong as regular coax in terms of being pulled apart. Here's a thread from DSL Reports: Snow, your FIOS cable drop, and you.... (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23785065-Snow-your-FIOS-cable-drop-and-you)



Wow, I still don't have service back.

As you may have read earlier, the fios wire broke two poles away from my house last Friday night.

While I was waiting for them to come fix that on Monday, a truck snagged the wires and pulled down the 5th pole away from my house.

The tech who was coming calls ands I tell him the story. He stops and talks to the guys replacing the downed pole, and tells me he has to wait for them to finish before he can fix my break. Make sense to me, he says he will come back along with a bucket truck first thing in the morning.

Peco gets the broken pole replaced and the power back on at 8 PM last night. Sine I didn't see any activity this morning, I call the tech at 11:00 am today and he says they were sending someone to "survey" to see if the pole is back up. I tell him it is up, and the power is on.

Around 5:00 pm I come home approaching the house from the west. The poles start at my driveway and only go east so I can't easily see what was done. There are 3 verizon bucket trucks parked down by the broken pole, and one in my driveway, so I figure they have the situation under control.

I do stop to ask the guy in the truck in my driveway if they fixed the other break at the second pole, and he says they did, and that they have "some light" down at the replaced "5th" pole, so they know the connection is good to there. He says the connection is not good past there, and they are waiting on a "splicer" whatever that means.

This story doesn't make any sense to me, but I'm not an expert on the lingo or fios, so I head up the driveway.

I look down the driveway a few minutes later, and all the bucket trucks leave.

I go down and take a look, and follow the cable visually as here it goes into the ground at the house, where it comes out of the ground at the pole, up the pole, and trudge through the snow to see that it does in fact end up broken and on the ground at the second pole. WTF? Then hoping against hope that I am following the wrong cable, I walk down to the 5th pole that was replaced.

There it can be easily seen that there is only one wire that leaves that pole towards my house, that is the electric wire. There is also a lower bare steel cable, but nothing is tied to it.

Are these guys really that incompetent that they can't see that there are no low voltage cables continuing past that pole!


It has now been 5 days with limited cel phone modem internet, I can't effectively work, the kids are going crazy...

F Verizon...

Makes sense. If the fiber cable is broken, it will need to be spliced (put back together). That's not as simple as splicing electrical or even coax cable. Hence, they are waiting on the "splicer", who is most likely a technician that is skilled in splicing fiber optic cables.

Sounds like it needs to be spliced, then rehung on the pole(s).

About a year ago, an accident took out the service pole across the street from my home, and with it all utilities. Verizon came later to reconnect the fiber, and if you get a chance, be there when they do it. Interesting mechanized project with very specific equipment, and yes, a trained tech. I was impressed, and it was all done on the tailgate of the service truck.

About a year ago, an accident took out the service pole across the street from my home, and with it all utilities. Verizon came later to reconnect the fiber, and if you get a chance, be there when they do it. Interesting mechanized project with very specific equipment, and yes, a trained tech. I was impressed, and it was all done on the tailgate of the service truck.

I have been curious for a long time as to how they splice the fiber in the field, I don't doubt it takes special equipment.

I am frustrated that they had two breaks in the cable, verified by their own technician, then sent 3 bucket trucks, and evidently no one capable of actually splicing the breaks?

As of now, 9:45 AM, they are still not here, FIOS has been out, going on 6 days...

Your frustration is understandable.

However, there are still some folks out there who do not even have electricity restored from the monster storms that we had. That's not Verizon's fault, but rather an example of just how much damage was done.

I'd be just as pissed off, if I were in your situation, though!

Your frustration is understandable.

However, there are still some folks out there who do not even have electricity restored from the monster storms that we had. That's not Verizon's fault, but rather an example of just how much damage was done.

I'd be just as pissed off, if I were in your situation, though!

The response from the Electric company was wonderful.

They were on the scene and starting to replace the pole in less than half an hour, took about 4-5 hours for them to get the pole up and about another 3 to get the power on.

How to splice a fiber optic cable: Termination and splicing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_fiber#Termination_and_splicing) Much more involved than a coax cable.

Fios is finally back up.

I think I need a back up plan for future outages.

One thing that I didn't realize was going to happen is, once you lose power while Fios is down, after the power comes back on, the DVRs won't function. So you can't watch any of your recorded shows.

I've spent some time at Antenna web, looks like I need an outside antenna for my location. Not sure I can live with those aesthetics.

Maybe a cable card Tivo or Moxie, which would at least allow watching of recorded shows when Fios is out.

I see that the Moxie does not support recording "over the air", but the Tivo does. I guess if i do get an antenna, that will limit me to tivo.

Glad to hear that you're back on line!!!

These types of outages really do not happen with any great frequency. I have never had an outage (knocking on wood as I type this) since FIOS was installed at my house almost 2 years ago. Granted, I have all underground utilities in my 'hood.

These storms did a lot of damage to all the utilities.

But, really though... it's just TV. I'd hope that we all could live for 4-5 days without it :)

Glad to hear that you're back on line!!!

These types of outages really do not happen with any great frequency. I have never had an outage (knocking on wood as I type this) since FIOS was installed at my house almost 2 years ago. Granted, I have all underground utilities in my 'hood.

These storms did a lot of damage to all the utilities.

But, really though... it's just TV. I'd hope that we all could live for 4-5 days without it :)

Actually, it is phone and internet, too.

Obviously there are alternatives for those with cell phones and cellular modems. I work out of my home office, so the reduced speed kept me from getting a lot done.

I've spent some time at Antenna web, looks like I need an outside antenna for my location. Not sure I can live with those aesthetics.Instead of antenna web, try using TV fool.com (http://tvfool.com/). Way better website, the owner/developer has a thread in AVS forum TV Fool Discussion Thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=841787&page=22). Or better yet, hop in the Philadelphia, PA - OTA (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=620626&page=100) thread and ask who's using what for your area.

Hint: Change your profile to show your location so members can see where you are (roughly).

Has anyone been following the debacle with caller ID?

I am just amazed beyond words that Verizon cannot get this to work. What a bunch of idiots. What's really funny, ironic and quite frankly embarrassing, is that Comcast... the CABLE company... has had it working for a long time.

You keep on rolling out those stupid and useless widgets though, Verizon. That's a real good use of our premiums, not to mention the utter waste of software engineering.

Try fixing all the things that are broken first!

Sorry, I just had to vent after reading some of the nonsense over on DSL :(

Feeling better now? :p Actually, I forgot that they were going to introduce that this month. Since all my phones light up the caller, I probably won't even engage that feature when it does arrive.

Yes, much :) Nothing like a little venting and a few Prozac...

I was over my daughter's house and her phone rang. Almost instantly, the CID popped up on her display. Of course, she has Comcrap. Needless to say, I took a raft of **** :)

Ion HD launched today on 518. (Yawn).

Only other tidbit - appears the addition of The Comcast Network (old CN8) may become a reality in the next month or so. Stay tuned.

Since we don't have that channel to look at, is it going to be strictly a standard def channel, or also high def?

Jim-
Most likely only SD - if I had to guess for the short term.

Great! A few more Flyers and Phillies games to watch.

Unbelievable hockey. I think I need something stronger than Prozac. Why can't they play like this all the time?

The Comcast Network should be on in SD and HD by the start of baseball season.

That would be good news! Possible 575 or 577 location???

Jim Hef-
I would think maybe 575, as we have CSN Mid-Atlantic on 576 and MASN on 577 here in Northern DE.

Yes, we have CSN on 576, but don't have the 575 covered yet. Thanks!

OOps..

Sorry, what I meant to say was CSN-Philly on 576, CSN-MA is on 577, and MASN on 578 - but you get my point... 575 would work best - unless they go for 79/579??

I found 1.7.1 installed this morning... yawn. Hope that it doesn't break anything that was already working. So, with 1.7.1 we are "CID ready"... can't wait for that fiasco :)

I don't find any control for caller ID within the menus. Where is this located?

Jim - you need to be at 1.7.1 (or a super-secret beta tester on a lower IMG rev) to get CID. Although VHO8 is at 1.7.1, we not enabled for CID at this time. From what I read over at DSL Forums, Verizon still cannot get CID to work properly/reliably in the VHO's that have it enabled. So, apparently the full deployment is in some state of pause. You can keep current in this thread. (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23336290-Caller-ID-on-TV)

Every time I am over at my daughter's house (she has Comcrap) and the phone rings, the CID pops up on her display and she reminds me, tongue in cheek, that her lousy cable provider can get it working, but the PHONE COMPANY cannot. I tell her that she can have her CID, to go along with lousy PQ and that I will just keep my great PQ and not worry about who's calling me (that I probably won't answer anyway) :)

But, it is really pathetic that the "PHONE COMPANY" can't get this to work. Comical, in fact!

Simple solution...stop going to her house! Yes, I'm at 1.7.1, so we'll wait and see if this occurs. I'll probably want to disable it anyway, and just don't want to know who I'm ignoring!

I think I've had Fios and my current TV for at least 18 mos, probably 2 years.

In the past week, a problem keeps occuring where the TV says "no signal", and the QIP6416-2 intermittently flashes DUI or DVI.

The only way I've found so far to get the picture back is to unplug and replug the DVI cable at the DVR end.

No amount of on-off of the TV or the DVR seems to help. I haven't tried unplugging from AC power yet.

it seems like turning the TV off will cause the issue, as will changing from an HD station to an SD station or vis versa.

I'm not sure what to try to solve the problem?

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

John

I've had the same problem on all three of my boxes, plus many more issues... The only solution I have found that works is to unplug them and let them sit for a minute - but eventually the problem returns. Now I have one box that repeatedly tells me it is overheating - even though it is in an open rack and ventilated properly. I've traded out for new boxes numerous times and new issues always crop up - they never just work.
Time for a Tivo or a Moxi!

The DUI message is an HDMI handshake. If that fails, then you'll get no output to your display.

...The only way I've found so far to get the picture back is to unplug and replug the DVI cable at the DVR end.

No amount of on-off of the TV or the DVR seems to help. I haven't tried unplugging from AC power yet.

it seems like turning the TV off will cause the issue, as will changing from an HD station to an SD station or vis versa.

I'm not sure what to try to solve the problem?

Any ideas?As SteveC325 says, it's an HDMI handshake issue ("DU1" is what you see). However, you don't need to power-down anything to re-sync it. Just switch inputs on your TV.

Switching inputs (like from HDMI1 to tuner and back) breaks the HDMI connection with the STB. When the TV cycles back to the HDMI input, the STB forces the connection to be renewed (DU1 flashes again).

I had a problem over the weekend where my Sammy 63" plasma video suddenly went to video black, audio dropped, and the power supply relay chattered for a few seconds. Then, it rebooted. All OK after that. This also happened a few weeks ago, but I had no idea why. Now I do.

What happened? High winds and rain were causing transients on the power lines. My PC's UPS battery backup kicked in, but the UPS on my Sammy didn't.

My thinking is that the Sammy is more sensitive to undervoltage than the STB.

As the UPS on my Sammy was not connected to a PC, its trip thresholds (sensitivity to switch to battery backup) are set to the default values. I modified the trip settings for my PC so it kicked in sooner.

So, I'm going to bring the UPS over to my PC and connect it to my USB port so I can reprogram it to switch over to battery at a higher voltage.

I don't know if this is the place to ask, but does anyone have any info on what's going on with FIOS and Fox Soccer Channel HD? It seems there is a LOT of demand for this station out there (ME included), and all I read is the generic "in discussions" and " negotiating" with Fox, etc, etc. There is a nice open number, (#584) that they could use for FSC HD. Thanks, Bob

Bob-
We've been told they are "in negotiations" regarding FSC-HD for 2 months now. Even I have been told nothing regarding this channel from my contacts.

Since Fox Soccer Plus got added quite easily when Setanta went dark, i'm thinking this is a prime example of available channel capacity rearing its ugly head. Meaning, there isn't that much left.

DU1? I used to have a Motorola STB from Comcast that had a DVI output and it showed the same message during the handshake, so I thought it was showing "DVI" in block letters. I assumed that this was just leftover from the DVI days (it would be pretty hard to write HDMI in block letters on the front of the STB). What does DU1 mean?

As SteveC325 says, it's an HDMI handshake issue ("DU1" is what you see). However, you don't need to power-down anything to re-sync it. Just switch inputs on your TV.

Switching inputs (like from HDMI1 to tuner and back) breaks the HDMI connection with the STB. When the TV cycles back to the HDMI input, the STB forces the connection to be renewed (DU1 flashes again).

I had a problem over the weekend where my Sammy 63" plasma video suddenly went to video black, audio dropped, and the power supply relay chattered for a few seconds. Then, it rebooted. All OK after that. This also happened a few weeks ago, but I had no idea why. Now I do.

What happened? High winds and rain were causing transients on the power lines. My PC's UPS battery backup kicked in, but the UPS on my Sammy didn't.

My thinking is that the Sammy is more sensitive to undervoltage than the STB.

As the UPS on my Sammy was not connected to a PC, its trip thresholds (sensitivity to switch to battery backup) are set to the default values. I modified the trip settings for my PC so it kicked in sooner.

So, I'm going to bring the UPS over to my PC and connect it to my USB port so I can reprogram it to switch over to battery at a higher voltage.

I thought it was a diagnostic code, but an old copy of the DCT6400 (STB) installation manual doesn't say anything about flashing "DU1" on the front panel. However, I found a Verizon forum link that says it's the STB's way of saying "DVI" to mean that it's doing the HDCP handshake. I could believe that.

"du1" code on box (http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-TV-Technical-Assistance/quot-du1-quot-code-on-box/td-p/131061)

Flashing DU1 code HDMI problem with QIP6416-2 STB (http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-TV-Technical-Assistance/Flashing-DU1-code-HDMI-problem-with-QIP6416-2-STB/m-p/170059)

JTFX6552 - Note the recent comments that handshake problems may be due to the firmware upgrade to 1.7. Try a new box.

Bob-
We've been told they are "in negotiations" regarding FSC-HD for 2 months now. Even I have been told nothing regarding this channel from my contacts.

Since Fox Soccer Plus got added quite easily when Setanta went dark, i'm thinking this is a prime example of available channel capacity rearing its ugly head. Meaning, there isn't that much left.

In another thread someone said they talked to FIOS a couple days ago and were told FSC HD was to be added "in a few days". Any confirmation of this?

As SteveC325 says, it's an HDMI handshake issue ("DU1" is what you see). However, you don't need to power-down anything to re-sync it. Just switch inputs on your TV.

Switching inputs (like from HDMI1 to tuner and back) breaks the HDMI connection with the STB. When the TV cycles back to the HDMI input, the STB forces the connection to be renewed (DU1 flashes again).

I had a problem over the weekend where my Sammy 63" plasma video suddenly went to video black, audio dropped, and the power supply relay chattered for a few seconds. Then, it rebooted. All OK after that. This also happened a few weeks ago, but I had no idea why. Now I do.

What happened? High winds and rain were causing transients on the power lines. My PC's UPS battery backup kicked in, but the UPS on my Sammy didn't.

My thinking is that the Sammy is more sensitive to undervoltage than the STB.

As the UPS on my Sammy was not connected to a PC, its trip thresholds (sensitivity to switch to battery backup) are set to the default values. I modified the trip settings for my PC so it kicked in sooner.

So, I'm going to bring the UPS over to my PC and connect it to my USB port so I can reprogram it to switch over to battery at a higher voltage.

I thought it was a diagnostic code, but an old copy of the DCT6400 (STB) installation manual doesn't say anything about flashing "DU1" on the front panel. However, I found a Verizon forum link that says it's the STB's way of saying "DVI" to mean that it's doing the HDCP handshake. I could believe that.

"du1" code on box (http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-TV-Technical-Assistance/quot-du1-quot-code-on-box/td-p/131061)

Flashing DU1 code HDMI problem with QIP6416-2 STB (http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-TV-Technical-Assistance/Flashing-DU1-code-HDMI-problem-with-QIP6416-2-STB/m-p/170059)

JTFX6552 - Note the recent comments that handshake problems may be due to the firmware upgrade to 1.7. Try a new box.

Thank you for the information and the link.

Based on this thread, and the thread at Verizon, I'm convinced that is a handshake issue brought on by the 1.7 update.

Interestingly, switching through the input s on the TV does not fix the problem. The only thing i have found that works so far is to power up both the TV and the STB, then unplug and replug either end of the HDMI cable.

I would expect that a new box would also have the 1.7 update, so I'm not convinced that will help.

I'm wondering if I need to use component cables until Verizon issues and update? Unfortunately I don't have an extra set lying around. I'm also wondering if a newer HDMI cable might help. I understand that some of the older cables are not compliant to the latest HDMI standard, although I have no understanding how that could be.

Thank you for the information and the link.

Based on this thread, and the thread at Verizon, I'm convinced that is a handshake issue brought on by the 1.7 update.

Interestingly, switching through the input s on the TV does not fix the problem. The only thing i have found that works so far is to power up both the TV and the STB, then unplug and replug either end of the HDMI cable.

I would expect that a new box would also have the 1.7 update, so I'm not convinced that will help.

I'm wondering if I need to use component cables until Verizon issues and update? Unfortunately I don't have an extra set lying around. I'm also wondering if a newer HDMI cable might help. I understand that some of the older cables are not compliant to the latest HDMI standard, although I have no understanding how that could be.

Before you go to all the trouble of recabling with component cables, have VZ send you a new box. The 6416's are MUCH less prone to the HDMI handshake issues. You could just have a bad one. They will send you a replacement for free and it comes with a prepaid label to send the old one back for free (don't do that until you are sure the new one is better than the old one).

Make sure when you call VZ, you tell them that you want a 6416 - NOT a 7216, as the 7216's have other problems, in addition to being less stable with HDMI.

It will be interesting to see if Verizon utilizes some of the new boxes being introduced by Motorola. With the problems of the 72XX series, and the small hard drive of the DVR, it's time for an update to be implemented.

I think the rumor is that they are going to the new Cisco box(es). They're supposed to have more HDD space (probably not enough to satisfy some die hard recorders) and native mode for video output.

Knowing VZ, this will take waaaaay too long and it will have all kinds of problems - at least on first deployment.

That could be interesting. Even though I don't record that many programs, I find it best to simply delete a show after watching it to save the dreaded "50% full" message. With relatively uncompressed high def programs, the little hard drive fills quickly. I'd really like to see a 500 Gig or 1 TB drive included, or a simple way to daisy chain your own hard drive for recording space. Is this something that is against the copyright rules?

Just accessed the Cisco site, and their 8300 box also has a 160Gig harddrive capable of 20 hours of high def. Seems they are the provider to most of the cable companies...just about all except our FiOS service.

I'm wondering if I need to use component cables until Verizon issues and update? Unfortunately I don't have an extra set lying around. I'm also wondering if a newer HDMI cable might help. I understand that some of the older cables are not compliant to the latest HDMI standard, although I have no understanding how that could be.In case you were comfortable working with electronics, component cables are nothing more than 75 Ohm coax with RCA plugs (match the lengths as close as possible). I really don't think your cable is the problem.

For those of you soccer-loving FIOS subscribers in the Philly/S. Jersey/Delaware area, sign the attatched petition (don't worry about the donation page, your vote is already counted), and we can show FIOS how serious we are about improving our soccer viewing by adding HD.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/fiosaddfschd/

Hey all-

Received some updated info regarding The Comcast Network. Looks like things are progressing - still don't have a launch date, but it will appear on Channel 99 (I kind of like that spot!)

Anyway, no word of HD at this time, and - not sure if they even plan on it - as 599 is already taken by Cars.tv

This only increases my concern that they are really low on HD capacity right now.

Once I hear more on a launch date, I will let you know. This apparently will also be made available to Harrisburg area viewers, in addition to VHO8.

I fully expect the .tv channels to be dropped soon. I can't believe that they are "earning their keep".


That will free up several slots.

Yo, don't be hatin' on my Pets.tv! I can't see how they even exist, nor understand why they're there. Ever look at the Guide description for them...very funny!

Hey all-

Received some updated info regarding The Comcast Network. Looks like things are progressing - still don't have a launch date, but it will appear on Channel 99 (I kind of like that spot!)

Anyway, no word of HD at this time, and - not sure if they even plan on it - as 599 is already taken by Cars.tv

This only increases my concern that they are really low on HD capacity right now.

Once I hear more on a launch date, I will let you know. This apparently will also be made available to Harrisburg area viewers, in addition to VHO8.My schedule:

Flyers on TCN April 6
Phillies on TCN April 7
Flyers on TCN April 9
Phillies on TCN April 10

I've got lots of HD capacity. Send me a feed. :p

Yo, don't be hatin' on my Pets.tv! I can't see how they even exist, nor understand why they're there. Ever look at the Guide description for them...very funny!

I honestly cannot understand under what conditions Verizon chose to include them, other than to boost their "# of HD channels" count. They are a major waste of QAM bandwidth and cannot possibly be contributing any serious revenue.

Perhaps someone has pictures of someone doing something with sheep and blackmailed said someone into including them. That makes more sense than anything else I could dream up :)

I'd rather see the "Ball of String HD" or "Yule Log HD" channels.

Yes, number of channels count! Ones we would actually prefer are not to be found yet, but what good is having 120 channels if some are this .TV content?

Any word on TCN? Phillies opening day is Monday.

I havent seen anything but the first game is on 'PHL so not effected.

Geek Girl-
My latest info is that we may see TCN go live Tuesday morning - but not 100% certain just yet.

I'll be sure to post here once it is confirmed.

Hopefully, we see the channel tomorrow!

I'm very pleased to announce that for Philly sports fans in VHO8 (DE/PA/SNJ) - The Comcast Network has gone live today on Channel 99.

This will be SD only (at least for now) - and apparently will also be fed to the Harrisburg, PA VHO (if someone out there can confirm).

This is a great move by VZ - especially with the Flyers game on TCN tonight.

For those unaware, TCN acts as an overflow channel for Philly sports, similar to CSN+ in the DC area.

It's a great day!

(Now, if only MASN2 HD is also on tap for this week for us here in DE!)

No HD, absolutely no interest.

Right on schedule (mine)!

So now we can finally compare how much the old CN8 was compressed on Comcast vs. what we see on Verizon. :p

I'll wait until the Flyers game. Nothing else worth watching.

I have to admit, the PQ of TCN on FIOS last night may have been the best SD channel i've ever watched.

Even during the Flyers game - no blurring, etc. that you'd usually witness.

So - i'll let VZ off the hook for now with not bringing on the HD version.

I have to admit, the PQ of TCN on FIOS last night may have been the best SD channel i've ever watched.

Even during the Flyers game - no blurring, etc. that you'd usually witness.

So - i'll let VZ off the hook for now with not bringing on the HD version.

I second that! SD was not an issue last night, picture and sound was excellent.

I have to admit, the PQ of TCN on FIOS last night may have been the best SD channel i've ever watched.

Even during the Flyers game - no blurring, etc. that you'd usually witness.

So - i'll let VZ off the hook for now with not bringing on the HD version.

agreed. for an SD pic that was not hard to watch at all. :)

I second that! SD was not an issue last night, picture and sound was excellent.
Good to know since tonight's Phillies game is only broadcast on that channel according to this morning's website listing.

Agreed that PQ was quite good via the QIP6416 STB.

They must be doing a poor decoding job with the digital adapter, DCT-700. I got nothing but constant pixelation when watching SD. It wasn't macro-blocking so much as horizontal rows of break up. Weird.

If you looked really close at the QIP6416 output, you could see a few broken lines here and there. That stuff was amplified big time by the DCT-700.

Caller ID was finally launched this morning in VHO-8.

It will be located under the "Settings" part of the menu.

I agree that the picture was quite good for TCN's coverage of the Phillies game. Surprisingly good for SD, so it's not a factor of watching or not! Wish some of the Fox Sports channels had the same quality.

So far, the Phillies game looks fine on the DCT-700 digital adapter (CSN 76). I checked TCN (99) during the commercial and there wasn't any of the weird lines that I saw during the Flyers game. Must be something with CSN sports feed.

TCN was showing some stupid infomercial so I could only tolerate watching it for a few seconds.

...stupid infomercial....
Redundant!!! :D