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Over at the official Crackdown forums word surfaced via a member of the Crackdown staff that the just-delayed Crackdown demo would surface Tuesday, January 23 at 2 a.m. pacific.

SWEET

That info has been posted on Xbox.com for the last couple days ;) .

--- Jason

First I've heard of it... thanx dude :)

anyone confirm that it's there?

So... anybody on the left coast get it at 2AM? What are the first impressons?

Opinion based upon about 1 hour of gameplay with the Demo :

They should call this Crapdown cause it's a turd of a game . Control is poor , graphics look very last gen , and it just feels way too much like GTA (which I admit that I cannot stand) .

No chance of me ever buying this game and now I know why they are trying to entice buyers with the Halo 3 beta offer (to help sell this junk) .

You can see how the open environment has potential but there is nothing nex-gen about this game at all IMO .

I'm sure GTA fans will like this right away but I think this should be a budget title right out of the gate .


--- Jason

Uh oh, hehehe. Hopefully I will get a chance to try this out tonight. I pre-ordered it mainly for the Halo 3 Beta but I have to admit as well that I'm not a huge GTA fan. We shall see I guess. I'm looking forward to other folks opinions....

Well, I really liked the GTA series, but did not care for the Superman Returns demo... is it more like Superman Returns?

Still going to download it and give it a try...

I'm hearing good things around some other boards. Things from solid graphics to very solid framerates. I'm looking forward to playing this during lunch.

I was very impressed with the draw distance. You can see for what appears to be miles. I am not sold after 15 min with the demo but I am more interested than I was from previews.

The genre as a whole (Go here, do that repeat with a few name/area changes...) is not among my favorites so I will not comment about the missions.

The number one thing I like about the title is the co-op. Can never have enough co-op games over live.

I'm hearing good things around some other boards. Things from solid graphics to very solid framerates. I'm looking forward to playing this during lunch.


Thats my impressions.

Also hearing about 95% great feedback about the demo. They all say the controls are tough at first but you need to advance your abilities to get better at aiming and driving.
I was buying it anyways but the GREAT first impressions I'm hearing make me feel much better about a purchase on release day.

I played for about 20-30 minutes so far. It's ok, nothing really that special so far. It is a bit of a pain trying to figure out how to get on the roof's when you cannot jump high enough.

I am impressed with the amount of people walking around.

Are we not able to do a jump kick?

Id like to add, I do think its a solid title just not a AAA title or "must have"

I think its ok at best, I dont like the layout of the game or how the missions are based it seems rushed...I was really looking forward to it and is it or are the visuals kind of dark??? I love the style of graphics that they went with almost cell shaded which is my favorite type, but I cant quit put my finger on it. This game does a lot of thinks ok but nothing great...

I am also depressed to hear "All MSFT studios games will be $49.99" yet they stiff us at $59.99...The game seems rushed, its a demo I know but it didnt live up to my expectations although its a rental or discount purchase at best.

Opinion based upon about 1 hour of gameplay with the Demo :

They should call this Crapdown cause it's a turd of a game . Control is poor , graphics look very last gen , and it just feels way too much like GTA (which I admit that I cannot stand) .

No chance of me ever buying this game and now I know why they are trying to entice buyers with the Halo 3 beta offer (to help sell this junk) .

You can see how the open environment has potential but there is nothing nex-gen about this game at all IMO .

I'm sure GTA fans will like this right away but I think this should be a budget title right out of the gate .


--- Jason
agreed, this game sucks ass. looks like crap and is just not that fun. Saints Row was way better and that game wasnt that good. BAD game.

agreed, this game sucks ass. looks like crap and is just not that fun. Saints Row was way better and that game wasnt that good. BAD game.


Saints Row was a solid open ended game... :mad:

But agree with your assessment for the most part...I guess it goes to show that it doesnt work when you are on the other side of the law, lol...True Crime was decent though...

One thing I dont like about the game is that you are to powerful over normal people and one kick to a civilian and they are dead...Somehow it has the same shooting mechanics as in SR but yet they still screw it up...

Thumbs down, now I know why they are giving H3 beta alone with this...I thought it was going to be good though...Glad we got the demo.

I won't get to try it out tonight but the vibe on all the actual gaming sites I frequent is the demo is very good IF you are into the sandbox style games (not everyone is).

Some of the early complaints were about the poor handling of cars or aiming issues but some of these things are built into the game and people have been saying as they raise their skills in those areas things get much much better.

Also in the demo the devs have stated they make you level faster/a little more powerful than normal so that you can experience more before the timer hits (which is 30 minutes after you hit level 2 in any skill).

For some strange reason ;) , I think you'll be able to find this game very cheap on ebay a week or two after it's released. Lots of folks will be buying it for the H3 beta only and unloading the game. Hopefully with enough dorks like this, I can get the game cheap (assuming I like it, trying demo in a few minutes).

Also in the demo the devs have stated they make you level faster/a little more powerful than normal so that you can experience more before the timer hits (which is 30 minutes after you hit level 2 in any skill).

I think it may be an hour single player, 30 minutes after 2 stars in coop.

For some strange reason ;) , I think you'll be able to find this game very cheap on ebay a week or two after it's released. Lots of folks will be buying it for the H3 beta only and unloading the game. Hopefully with enough dorks like this, I can get the game cheap (assuming I like it, trying demo in a few minutes).

From Bungies site:

"Anyone who purchases the upcoming Xbox 360 game “Crackdown” will get automatic entry into the Halo 3 beta. If you have a Crackdown disc you’ll be able to activate and download the beta once it goes live next Spring. "

More specifically:
"When the “Halo 3” multiplayer beta surfaces in spring 2007, owners of “Crackdown” with access to an Xbox 360 Pro console or an Xbox 360 Core console with hard drive and a valid Xbox Live Gold subscription simply need to load their copy of “Crackdown” into Xbox 360 and use the disc as a key to download the beta from Xbox Live Marketplace and join the battle in “Halo 3” multiplayer. “Crackdown” will be available in the U.S. on Feb. 20, Asian territories on Feb. 22 and European markets on Feb. 23."

Note you have to have the disc to activate it and download the beta.

Note you have to have the disc to activate it and download the beta.

Yeah, but it never says you need it to play it.

I wonder then if it would work just to rent Crackdown.

Well since the beta is coming to the hard drive they may lock down the Crackdown disc to be in there for the key to open the beta every time.

Automatonjohn:
I doubt a rental would work, I think its only a limited number of Crackdown copies that are getting the invite include plus I am pretty sure that once a invite is redeemed it would tie it to your gamertag at that point as well.

Yeah, but I could just easily see them writting an outside piece that grants you the beta status on your account from the disc and presumably a code. Take seriel # off disc, flag the gamertag, retire the seriel code and that's it. You start putting that in the demo and then you have different versions of the beta. Seems easier to just do it outside and have one beta.

I'm speaking in regards to buying the game with the H3 beta already used by original owner, just to be clear.

As for the game, it's not on my buy list yet. It's sort of strange. All the jumping and such can be a disorienting. Plus, with the crappy aiming to start off with, it's sort of difficult to get things going for awhile.

I'm certainly going to try it a few more times. Might grow on me.

What's going to be interesting is how many games of Crackdown are sold just to get a crack at Halo 3.

What's going to be interesting is how many games of Crackdown are sold just to get a crack at Halo 3.
A TON.

Hmm, after reading the differing opinions, I'll definitely have to try the demo tonight before I pre-order it. I was planning on pre-ordering it on the way home from work but I can wait until after I try the demo. Oh, yeah, I'm interested in the game but I'm mainly interested b/c of the H3 beta.

I'm not too interested in the beta. I want to play it when tis complete and polished.

I visit many forums and this is the ONLY one with such bad feedback from the demo. Everyone else is loving it.
Man it sucks getting old.

Loved it. Yes the aiming and driving controls are iffy at the start, but that's the point of leveling up your character. I leveled my marksman 3 times, and the controls got noticebly better.

Second play through I focused entirely on seeing how much I could level up my agility. Maxed it out after leveling it up 4 times and could easily jump from rooftop to rooftop, great fun. This game is going to be one hell of a blast to hop in and just have fun, especially on co-op.

Must by for me.

I thought it was pretty good the graphics are nice I enjoy its cell shaded visuals and gameplay is ok. My only complaint is the aiming.

This game freakin RULES. Just amazing.
I wasn't expecting a damn thing and am blown away so far.

Here are some screenshots I took today.

Gameplay vids to follow.

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Just downloaded the demo and well it's not a bad game overall but just not for me. Visuals are decent if you like that Jet Set Radio look but it just doesn't cut for me. Seems like it'll be a fun multi-player and I doubt many will take the online battles that serious to the likes of GoW. My biggest complaint would have to be getting on top of the rooftops, I just couldn't figure out a way to get up there. :confused:
In short, not worth the $60 price tag.

The real question is: is Halo3 beta worth $60.....

I love sandbox games. The best part of Oblivion for me was just exploring the huge map and all the cities. Running around and doing anything is great. I was a little iffy at first, but after playing the demo, I am definitely buying it. The game is not only fun, but you get the halo 3 beta as well!
Question: Will there be a limited number of the "specially marked" beta copies? I don't need to pre-order, do I?

I love sandbox games. The best part of Oblivion for me was just exploring the huge map and all the cities. Running around and doing anything is great. I was a little iffy at first, but after playing the demo, I am definitely buying it. The game is not only fun, but you get the halo 3 beta as well!
Question: Will there be a limited number of the "specially marked" beta copies? I don't need to pre-order, do I?

Same here. I love those types of games.
And Crackdown just improves on the genre. An amazing game with sick graphics, draw distance, controls, etc. I LOVE IT

I'm not sure about your Halo 3 beta question. I was wondering the same thing today. So I played it safe and drove to EB Games and pre-ordered!

I thought the demo was good, my only complaint would be the aiming. I think I will enjoy it more when the full game is released and i can play for more than a hour and really get into the game.

I thought the demo was good, my only complaint would be the aiming. I think I will enjoy it more when the full game is released and i can play for more than a hour and really get into the game.

Aim with the left trigger button. Change targets with the right trigger button. This even works when aiming at a car. You can change it from aiming at the tires, to the font of the car, back of the car, etc.

Maybe your abilities have to be higher before you're able to pull it off successfully though.

Gameplay opinions aside I do not see how anybody can claim this game actually looks good (yes the draw distance is impressive but let's be honest it looks like an original Xbox title) .

My son usually likes running around in these types of games and within 5 minutes he set down the controller and walked away ( lol ) .

Played through it again to get a second impression that was not at 4 am and it just has not been any better than my first impression . This game could have been a bigger hit had it been released several years ago but with the likes of GoW , RB6V and LP it just falls way short IMO .

--- Jason

I think the graphics are very, very impressive. Not everything is supposed to look like GOW and R6. They chose to go with the comicbook artstyle and they nailed it. Not too mention the lighting, draw distance, and sheer abundance of activity going on with not a hint of slowdown. Very impressive. Definitely could not be done on Xbox, nowhere close.

If you dont like the way it looks ,perhaps art direction is what you dont like, not the graphics.

I haven't played this demo yet but I don't care what the game looks like. If it's fun to play, that's all that matters.

That's part of the reason why the Wii is doing so well.

This game is alot better than you guys are giving it credit,, Learn the targeting system, try leveling up and gaining new abilities...

Just because everyone thinks it sucks dosent mean it does.. Give it a fair chance..

The people saying it sucks are in the minority from everything I've read. Just something incredibly cool abot being on a rooftop and jumping across the street 50 feet in the air raining bullets down on people.

I think the game is pretty good and I what I expected. The "3D-Cel Shade" look is pretty neat. I did not find the controls that difficult to figure out, and I am having blast running over everyone.

I think your guy is way to powerful, but the demo says something about accelerated levleing.

I would give the demo a B+ overall.

Aim with the left trigger button. Change targets with the right trigger button. This even works when aiming at a car. You can change it from aiming at the tires, to the font of the car, back of the car, etc.

Maybe your abilities have to be higher before you're able to pull it off successfully though.


I meant to say right STICK, not right trigger button... my bad!

Been playing the demo for a while seems fun to me ...i like the jumping part..the "cell" look on the character looks cool.

Obviously gameplay is most important but I think this game falls way short in that department as well . I predict this game will die off very soon after it is launched .

I have seen better cell-shaded graphics on the original Xbox even though it might not have been able to handle the draw distance and number of on screen characters . Look at the backgrounds , look at the rocks , the water , the vehicles ... it all just looks so dull .

I guess I just don't get the praise (much like Dead Rising) but for those that enjoy it that's great :) .

----- Jason

Aim with the left trigger button. Change targets with the right trigger button. This even works when aiming at a car. You can change it from aiming at the tires, to the font of the car, back of the car, etc.

Maybe your abilities have to be higher before you're able to pull it off successfully though.

That helps a little but I was hoping you could toggle between enemies with the precision targeting.

The game shows alot of promise. I really like the presentation. Anyone recognize the Narrator? He sounds very familliar

I was impressed with this game, I played it today on my lunch break for about 45 min. At the moment I find gratitude in killing a gang member and then picking up the corpse to toss at his homies. I recieved the MS Wireless Wheel today in the mail, but after that I am going to try the co-op to see what it is about. So far the demo has actually put me at ease about pre-ordering this game for the H3 beta.

The game shows alot of promise. I really like the presentation. Anyone recognize the Narrator? He sounds very familliar

I could have sworn it was Baz Luherman - it sounds just like the guy from the 'Wear Sunscreen' song.

I liked it. The hour I played just flew by. I can see it being even more fun when I know what I am doing with the controls. I figured stuff out pretty well but I bet there was a lot I was missing.

I am not normally a fan of cell shaded games but I thought this one looked good, not last gen at all IMHO. I thought it looked a lot better then PDZ which was also the cartoony art style. The look of the water was a weak when I took a swim but it did lead me to looking at the night sky which was very nice. The environment seemed very alive with people. Not sure about the AI, but then I was just running and gunning... beat the crp out of all the guys in the agency headquarters. I thought the car handled smoothly. I loved the running and jumping on the rooftops. I love the interface and thought it felt great. I liked the narrator.

My initial impressions are very favorable and my initial desire to buy has only been confirmed by this demo.

Wow, this held my attention for exactly 15 minutes. Very.....................bland. So bad so far, I think I'll cancel my reserve for it even if I don't get beta.

I don't care what the game looks like. If it's fun to play, that's all that matters.

So if all games looked like Nintendo or Sega games on the 360 you wouldn't care as long as they were fun? come on dude..

Me and DaGamePimp must be the odd balls here. lol. The last 2 games I played was GOW and Lost Planet so maybe im spoiled but I thought this crackdown demo looked terrible.

On top of all that, the gameplay is just boring IMO. What does this game offer that Saints Row, or GTA dosent?

And if your mom had propellers she'd be a helicopter.

Me and DaGamePimp must be the odd balls here. lol. The last 2 games I played was GOW and Lost Planet so maybe im spoiled but I thought this crackdown demo looked terrible.

On top of all that, the gameplay is just boring IMO. What does this game offer that Saints Row, or GTA dosent?
Well for me, the opportuntiy to be a good guy.
I am not saying the graphics compare to GoW or LP. This is a cell shaded game I wouldnt expect it to look realistic. For a cartoon looking game I think it pulls it off well and looks better then some I have seen like PDZ. But no it is not even close to GoW or LP.

Well for me, the opportuntiy to be a good guy.
I am not saying the graphics compare to GoW or LP. This is a cell shaded game I wouldnt expect it to look realistic. For a cartoon looking game I think it pulls it off well and looks better then some I have seen like PDZ. But no it is not even close to GoW or LP.
IMO PDZ was waaaaaaaaaay better looking. Ecspecially the textures. IMO. All the Jet Grinds looked better. To each his own though. :)

My son usually likes running around in these types of games and within 5 minutes he set down the controller and walked away ( lol ) .

--- Jason


Thats your son....My son loved it because we played system link coop. This is a coop game first. Singleplayer second. Lastly you are wrong about the graphics it does not look like an xbox game. It has an unique style and looks great IMO (Even though im running it at 1080p)


On top of all that, the gameplay is just boring IMO. What does this game offer that Saints Row, or GTA dosent?


COOP :rolleyes:

I was skeptical at first while playing the demo. After all, how different can these sandbox/GTA clones be?

I was wrong. This game is a blast. It takes a conventional formula and adds some nifty things like the jumping from building to building. While other games of this formula have you stuck to running and driving around on the streets, this game takes it to a whole new level by allowing you to scale buildings. To add to that, the game engine and controls work very smoothly.

For those not having fun with it, try leveling up and leaping from building to building and hurling cars at people. It's great.

The only thing that I would be concern about is repeativeness. If the whole game just requires you to assassinate gang leaders, I can imagine that would get old soon...

I downloaded mine today before work and I was suprised. I did not have much interest in this game but after playing the demo I can't wait for it. I thought the graphics were a nice change up from the other games I've played. I hope they do some work to the targeting system before it's realease. I kept locking on to enemy vehicles before the enemy units. Although grenades are fun when thrown at cars. :D

Certain targeting abilities, like being able to target an enemies' leg, shooting him in the leg, then targeting and shooting his arm, causing him to drop his weapon, are only available to you once you level up enough in firearms. Pretty cool incentives!

Certain targeting abilities, like being able to target an enemies' leg, shooting him in the leg, then targeting and shooting his arm, causing him to drop his weapon, are only available to you once you level up enough in firearms. Pretty cool incentives!

I meant just targeting them in general. But if it improves with the level ups that's perfectly fine with me.

So it seems like as with many things in life.

Most people like it.

Some people dont.

You cant please everybody. I'm downloading it now.. I'll make sure to return and sumbit my comments. So far it definitely seems worth the $60 bucks for the game and the Halo3 Beta invite.

I recall my first statement. Give it 20 minutes. Once you start jumping from building to building it gets fun. There will have to be more for me to keep the game though.

Leveling up the agility is awesome. I spend most of my second and third attempts at the demo just running around the city collecting the orbs and jumping from roof top to roof top. It is a blast. I think the driving will be the las thing I attempt to level up most likely because I won't really need to as much when I just can jump for building to building. :)

Great that so many are enjoying it but jumping from building to building was done in the second Hulk game and that game got old really fast ;) . It will be interesting to see just how long after the retail release people still think this game is worth $60 (aside from justifying paying for the H3 beta) , hmmm ... ?

--- Jason

Great that so many are enjoying it but jumping from building to building was done in the second Hulk game and that game got old really fast ;) . It will be interesting to see just how long after the retail release people still think this game is worth $60 (aside from justifying paying for the H3 beta) , hmmm ... ?

--- Jason


Hell I still play Hulk with my son. It is still fun to pull that out and just destroy stuff. I will try this game when I get back but nobody should be suprised by the graphics they have been showing this game since the 360 was revealed so I don't understand any surprises here.

I agree the graphics are kind of Xboxish,but I think they did that so they could have that huge draw distance it sports without any slowdown. You can really see for miles in this game and the city is pretty cool

I like it so far, the rpg aspects and the co-op sell it for me. Its just the demo im sure the release will be much better..

I figure the Halo 3 beta will last at least 6 monthes, so its like buying 2 games for the price of one.

It will be interesting to see just how long after the retail release people still think this game is worth $60
--- Jason

How do you plan on aquiring this data and why do you care?
I beat Saints Row in 4 nights. It was a blast. In my top 5 of 360 games. I never played again after that 4th night. I'll live.

Anyways downloaded the demo. I thought it was great. Why am I finding the graphics very well done. If you don't like the waters graphics check it out from atop the building in the center of the map. You'll need your agility maxed out. Look down at the water while the sun is setting and you will then see some of the best water effects ever.
A purchase for me unless the final game gets horrible reviews. :eek:

I was pleasantly suprised with this title. I didn't really have any interest in it but DL'd the demo since the game has a H3 beta in select packages. I love it. After playing the crappy Superman demo, I thought the idea of a super hero sandbox game was a great idea (just EA's game sucked). This is just what the sandbox genre needed to spice some new life into it. I remember loving being able to scale the tallest building in NY in Spiderman 2 and diving off the end of it ans splatting on the ground. I also own Saints Row and remember trying to see if I could climb on some buildings but was dissapointed I couldn't. This is a welcome refresher to the genre and this demo just sold me on it.

Played it for about an hour total with my roommates and then immediately went to pre-order it. Nuff said.

Great that so many are enjoying it but jumping from building to building was done in the second Hulk game and that game got old really fast ;)
yep

As a HUGE GTA fan, I've been looking for something fun to tide me over until GTA:IV in October. After playing the Crackdown demo, I think I've found it.

I've got a gift cert from christmas that I've been holding for the "right" game. I was going to buy Lost Planet but now I think I'll save it for this one.

I must say I'm a bit underwhelmed as well.

The demo seemed SUPER EASY. To kill a boss, just jump over buildings/gangsters, assassinate him/her, then jump out of the territory all within 60 seconds. It's literally a walk in the park. I'm glad they made a superman game in Crackdown, but came with it is the lack of challenge.

And those types of games always annoyed me with the endless amount of enemies coming to you unless you choose to evade. You can't just kill them all, because somewhere out there a cloning machine is working overtime just for you. It's not realistic and is a broken game mechanic, and I keep hoping it would go away. But...nope.

I was really really counting on this game sucking. I was wrong, so far its pretty good. Will definitly be buying the full game. Sorry Pimp, this and Dead Rising are just flat out fun AND good looking =)

Sam

How do you plan on aquiring this data and why do you care?
I beat Saints Row in 4 nights. It was a blast. In my top 5 of 360 games. I never played again after that 4th night. I'll live.


No problem trying to gather that data , just wait and see what happens after it is released (and I don't really care other than I think this should be a bargain title right from the start) .

Obviously you are going to like this style of game if you feel Saints Row is a top 5 360 game . I loath the GTA style games so I am obviously biased/skeptical against Crackdown before even playing it but I still gave it a 2 hour run just to be fair ;) .

No reason for anybody to take my comments personal by the way , just my minority opinion after all ;) . I am a difficult gamer to impress and I have no problem saying that I am very picky about what I play (and even more picky about what games I buy) . I have always expressed my honest opinions regarding games (even if it goes against the majority and people decide to slam me for it) .

Honestly it's great that the 360 keeps offering titles that people simply enjoy playing .

----- Jason

I was really really counting on this game sucking. I was wrong, so far its pretty good. Will definitly be buying the full game. Sorry Pimp, this and Dead Rising are just flat out fun AND good looking =)

Sam

No reason for the Sorry , play what you enjoy , I know I do :) .

While I will admit that Dead Rising looked pretty cool it was sooo boring , I am thankful that I did not buy into the hype and make a purchase ( thanks to the demo and the fact that my cousin bought it - he ended up selling it a week later due to it being so boring ;) ) .

For those that like the graphic style that's cool but are those claiming this thing looks great really looking at the details or simply hopping from building to building because I just cannot see how anybody can say Crackdown offers great graphic quality . I would take better details/textures at the expense of some of that MASSIVE draw distance anyday .

---- Jason

Played some awesome Co-Op tonight and loved it. I'm a sucker for sandbox games.

The graphics are lesser than other games due mostly to the scope of things. The draw distance is crazy. There's tons of people from gang members to civs to police on patrol. That takes a lot of system power. I still think it looks great though!

I also want to join the "Hulk Ultimate Destruction Rules" club. I love that game. (It's 720p as well for those of you who missed it)

This game is sick! 1 hour passed like 10mins. Yet another purchase :(

I am posting an update after spending a few hours messing around. If you level up in the driving criteria and use the Agency vehicles (semi, suv, exotic) they transform in to crazy machines. Run over gangbangers and do stunts to level up quickly, after 3 stars you will see dramatic difference in the Agency vehicles. I got up to 4 stars, the SUV gains the ability to jump with the B button and is crazy fast and at the same time mobs over cars like Bigfoot. The semi looks like a vehicle from your generic postapocalyptic wasteland. The exotic car totally changes into a sled like coupe that has guns with the B button and also can be used as a ramp. I want to do coop to experiment with these vehicles but you can't invite friends into your game yet. You are able to charge the jump for the SUV, but launch of of the coop's exotic then jump. I can't wait for this game. P.S be on the lookout for a semi with a ramp on the back, it is almost like a quarterpipe it will send you flying. Also when you level up your driving skill you are able to change the pitch of your vehicle in mid air. I have been able to do a few barrel rolls and a backflip. The stunts will boost your level pretty quickly as well.

Downloaded it with preparations to hate it... but actually kinda liked it. Not sure it will be a game that I purchase (even if it comes with the H3 demo... I am somewhat bitter they don't just put the H3 demo as a free download on the marketplace), but it was fun messing around with. I don't think it is nearly as bad as some are saying graphics wise, I think it looks good.

I have too many games that I still have to finish. Working a full time job as well as part time work really is interfering with my XBoxing! I still have to finish Lost Planet, RB6, GOW on Hardcore, etc. etc. before I consider adding a game to my collection. Maybe when it's $30.00 I'll pick it up.

Played the demo when I got home from work and I too feel the game is a lot of fun. I never played any GTA games because the concept behind them never appealed to me, likewise Saints Row or Dead Rising (tried the demo and didnt like it) - however playing as a law-enforcer with super powers and taking on crime is more to my taste. And as this is my first Sandbox game I am enjoying the freedom you have in this type of game and it somehow feels more involving.

I like the way the character progressively increases his various skills while playing through and makes him more powerful and how that affects your approach to the current objectives . I didnt manage to level up very far on my first try but it was fun getting there, despatching the bad guys. The controls were ok after getting used to them and aiming improved as my firearm skill increased. Graphics were ok, didnt feel they were bad but certainly enough to let you get a feel for the world you are playing in, though the cell-shaded characters maybe could be better with more detail IMO. Only thing I would ask for is a tweak to the AI for both the Peacemakers and the villains so they are more active and not standing around so much (especially the Peacemakers, how about some backup from them). Didnt do too much driving so didnt increase my skill in that area, something to go back to, as well as increasing the other skills.

Overall I just had fun playing this demo and hope the final game has added depth to the gameplay. Will be getting this and possibly getting into the H3 beta as well makes it even better.

Played it for about an hour total with my roommates and then immediately went to pre-order it. Nuff said.

Played it for about 10 mins. Deleted it then went straight to bed. Nuff said.

Just plain fun !! I'm not a huge fan of single player games (I get bored playing with myself :D ) but the co-op is a riot. I take it there's not going to be any multiplayer other than co-op ?? Some CTF across the roof tops with rocket launchers would be fun. Two thumbs up for a great looking and good playing demo.

Played it for about 10 mins. Deleted it then went straight to bed. Nuff said.

Then you missed out on most of the fun. It's not fun at the beginning when your abilities are low.

I am a big GTA fan, but didn't pick up Saint's Row (seemed way too thuggy and crude for my tastes).

Love the demo so far, and definitely getting the game. I appreciate the art style (not every game needs to out 'real' each other), and had a blast jumping around, trying to get to orbs and blasting bad guys. I especially like grenades which send the baddies flying and *on fire*! :D

I had trouble trying to do the Around the Ferris Wheel roof race, but I suspect with practice it might be easier (or, in the retail game after I've buffed the agent more).

The overall game (story) might be on the short side, but between maxing the agent, getting all the orbs and doing all the missions in coop (as well as some of the more interesting achievements), I could see this taking me a nice while.

Also, keep in mind there will be DLC that will add in the 'missing' 100 achievement points - no idea what this will be, but it could be a very nice bonus.

Oh, and it did take me a bit to get used to the targeting system, but once I did that (and figured out how to get a maximum jump), it was better. I already am wishing I could have an aircraft so I could stay up as long as I liked. :)

I am a big GTA fan, but didn't pick up Saint's Row (seemed way too thuggy and crude for my tastes).


I thought this was kind of funny. Really didn't think GTA:SA was thuggish?

I played it last night with a friend on co-op and it was great. There were times we couldn't stop laughing at the things we were trying.

Graphics:
The graphics are good and I like the graphic novel feel to them. They aren't ultra-realistic texture or anything but it looks good to me.

AI:
On the higher difficulties the AI gets much better and its not as easy to just run in and take out a gang leader as easy. The default level (tough) is equivalent to easy and yes the AI there would just stand and shoot. At higher levels though they were flushing us out with grenades, flanking, etc.

Sound:
Not bad, sound effects were pretty good. Music was nothing special but not bad either. My friend and I are convinved the voiceover guy is the person who does the Navy commercials, its sounds exactly like him.

Gameplay:
In co-op its a blast. The roof races, car races, etc take on a whole new life when you are racing against someone. Throwing grenades at each other, trying to kick each other off the roof, etc just made it plain fun. Even doing the missions was great as he liked to drive and would charge in running over people while I came in from the roof, guns blazing and tossing grenades. We also just spent time trying to do things like get to the top of the Ferris wheel (almost made it but fell near the top and died heh). Once one of us found the ramp truck is when the fun began. We were driving it around trying to land cars on roofs.

Overall impression:
Co-op in the game makes it a must buy for me. If it was just single player I would worry about the longevity of the game but with the co-op my friend and I are both pre-ordering this game. We don't care about the Halo 3 beta that much but its an added bonus for us at this point.

Tip: Since the demo doesn't support drop-in co-op (the full game will), just have the host set some parameters up in the game type (Explosive agent, Volk gang, talkative player, etc) and it makes it easy to search for the game. Worked for us every time.

Also, keep in mind there will be DLC that will add in the 'missing' 100 achievement points - no idea what this will be, but it could be a very nice bonus.

They have already announced they are releasing 10 new agents skins within 30 days of launch and another small island sometime after that. I bet the island is where the other achievement points are being saved for.

A purchase for me unless the final game gets horrible reviews. :eek:
How do you plan on aquiring this data and why do you care? :D

I am playing this game on a 50" Pio plasma and I have to look away from the screen for a moment when I jump down to the ground from a very tall building. It gives me that motor mimicry feeling of your stomach turning when you dive down suddenly on a rollercoaster ride.

I think it is awesome that this game has achieved this. I haven't had a game cause any sort of emotional or physical response to myself in quite some time...other than frustration and maybe...MAYBE a little anger ;)

They have already announced they are releasing 10 new agents skins within 30 days of launch and another small island sometime after that. I bet the island is where the other achievement points are being saved for.

Okay, missed that, thanks. You could be right, but I hold out hopes for something additional in terms of gameplay and not 'just' more territory/bad guys.

I thought this was kind of funny. Really didn't think GTA:SA was thuggish?

It had its thuggy moments, sure, but SR seemed to have much more of a concentrated dose and came with a cruder style that was less to my tastes. YMMV.

dammit i didnt get a chance to play it yet.. :0(

"It's not fun at the beginning when your abilities are low."

Funny, I play games to have fun. Why would i want to play something that isn't fun, just to get it fun?

I played it a bit and its alright. I like the concept but this genre really isn't my thing, not the games fault.

The download was so freaking slow last night that I didn't get a chance to play it, tonight should be good though.

"It's not fun at the beginning when your abilities are low."

Funny, I play games to have fun. Why would i want to play something that isn't fun, just to get it fun?

I played it a bit and its alright. I like the concept but this genre really isn't my thing, not the games fault.

For the first few minutes of the demo it does feel like a GTA cone. But the fun and unique part of this game is that you can jump across rooftops, throw cars, and make huge explosions. That's what set this game apart from others in the genre. But it takes a little bit of work (about ten minutes) to get your abilities up enough.

I think you'll be able to find this game very cheap on ebay a week or two after it's released. Lots of folks will be buying it for the H3 beta only and unloading the game.
I believe the beta key is on the disc and isn't a code on a card.

If Microsoft were clever you would have to use the disc every time you wanted to play the beta, for validation.

I liked it!

Did anyone use the lock-on system a lot? I tried it once or twice it and found targeting still worked well just using the right stick but seems a lot of people on some game forums dont like the targeting system. Not sure what i would be missing by not using it as I seemed to be able to take out the gang members pretty well.

I played it for about 45 minutes last night and will probably give it another go tonight and from what I played it was pretty enjoyable.

I'll agree that the graphics aren't amazing but they aren't Xbox graphics. Go back and play some Xbox games (or play JSR for the DC) and I think you'll change your mind.

Anywho, I do have one question. I got up to three stars in agility and the voice in my head said I was close to maxing out. Are there only 4 levels in the full version or will there be more? I know the progression is faster in the demo but I'm hoping for more upgrades.

I will say this. The driving part is piss poor. I have never driven a car in a game that fast that felt that slow.

Anywho, I do have one question. I got up to three stars in agility and the voice in my head said I was close to maxing out. Are there only 4 levels in the full version or will there be more? I know the progression is faster in the demo but I'm hoping for more upgrades.

I believe there are 5 levels in the full version but only 4 available in the demo. I know people have maxed driving to 4 which grants you some of the car special abilites (like the SUV jumps and sports car shooting, etc.) but in the gameplay videos the SUV at max level also had wheel spikes and could climb walls which people aren't seeing.

I will say this. The driving part is piss poor. I have never driven a car in a game that fast that felt that slow.

The handling on the driving seems to get much better as your driving skill goes up and I haven't checked yet but the max speed might as well. But I am not sure if you are complaining about the handling or that when going X mph it doesn't feel like it.

I really liked it. It's fun just to gain strength and agility points and just roam the city roof tops. I already had it preorded for Halo 3, but to actually get a game thats worth playing... it just a bonus.

CW

Everyone has their right to their opinions. While everyone talked about how great of a game SW:KOTOR was, I hated it because of its turn based combat. Personally I think Crackdown is stunning visually and a very fun game to play---but I liked Saints Row and the GTAs so this is a genre I like.

As for people talking about how easy it is? The leveling system is ramped way up for the demo---you'll notice you get 5-10 orbs from each person you kill and each agility orb you find is three orbs---it won't be that available in the full game especially at the higher difficulties.

This demo was soo awesome. I CANNOT wait for this game. I like everything about it and I usually get tired/don't enjoy open-world GTA-style games (Saint's Row, etc.) but this one is amazing.

I just enjoy spending all my time upgrading my character.

I know it's accelerated upgrading, but does anyone have any idea how long it would take to upgrade your character to the level (equivalence) of 2 stars in the demo?

With each skill having been upgraded to 2 stars the game is very cool. I wonder how long it takes to get like that.

Great game.

The handling on the driving seems to get much better as your driving skill goes up and I haven't checked yet but the max speed might as well. But I am not sure if you are complaining about the handling or that when going X mph it doesn't feel like it.
Handling was pretty good. Supercar @ 180mph= E Z GO Golfcart

It is even better when you are using the upgraded SUV, it is fast and handles well and doesn't take crap from any obsticles.

Pre-ordered after playing the demo. It reminds me of the matrix when you crack the ground after jumping from the rooftops. For some reason climbing the buildings is just too much fun and then shooting gang members from 30 stories up was gratifying as well.

Played the Demo again. Still really like it but I can see how it will get repetative if there is nothing more to it than go there and kill that boss, go look for new boss, kill that boss.

If that is all it is, well then it will be another (upgraded version) of Just Cause. A game I play every day as I ride my exercise bike and to keep me busy while waiting for the next "real" game. That doesnt make it bad but its just a shame to have two games so close to being special but just missing due to easy autoaim, run and gun and not a lot to do except multiple version of the same missions.

I want what some person on a nother forum wants a big sandbox game like Oblivion. With a main story but tons of sidequest if I want to do them or things to find if I wander around. If I dont get it in this game, maybe mass effect will give it.

not sure if im allowed post the link or not, but over at ign they said that every copy of Crackdown will have the Halo 3 beta with it, straight from microsoft. Now no need to spend $5 to pre order something I could walk in and buy.

I love the way this game looks + it's super fun + Halo3 beta = Yee-haw!!

Tooled around with the demo a few times and had some questions:

1. how do you scale the taller buildings? I've leveled up my agility a couple of notches, but only seem to be able to jump onto the smaller buildings. Is there a way to "super" jump?

2. how do you increase your strength? Just by lifting some smaller objects? (Obviously I haven't played much)

3. Is there a way to zoom in on the map? I only seem to be able to get the larger view.

4. What are some fun things to do in the demo?

5. Finally, how many missions are available in the demo? I just don't have a sense of what to do next.

One criticism of the game: after Saints Row's map system where you could target a location and the HUD would show the best route, it's kind of annoying to have to drive, pause to see where I am, drive some more. Hope the final version employs something similar to the SR system.

This game will be in the recycle bin shortly after release.

2. how do you increase your strength? Just by lifting some smaller objects?

By picking up objects, using them as weapons and killing enemies with them

By picking up objects, using them as weapons and killing enemies with them

you also gain strength from just plain old melee attacking people. beating people down up close and personal style is actually pretty effective in this game.

I loved this game. I was mad that the demo ends you at level 2 in any category. But Ive played it a few times. Next, im going to level up the car. I hear you can get to level 2 by killing gang members with the car only.

Also, the graphics are about what I expected. Looked great on my plasma. The colors are vibrant and the draw distance is really far.

The controls took some getting used to. Once I got them down, I was jumping buildings, getting on roof tops, and running down gang members with no prob.

Try exploring and not leveling up. Thats what I'm gonna do when I get home tonight.. The level details of what i saw are pretty good. Take a tour..

I loved this game. I was mad that the demo ends you at level 2 in any category. But Ive played it a few times. Next, im going to level up the car. I hear you can get to level 2 by killing gang members with the car only.

Also, the graphics are about what I expected. Looked great on my plasma. The colors are vibrant and the draw distance is really far.

The controls took some getting used to. Once I got them down, I was jumping buildings, getting on roof tops, and running down gang members with no prob.

Try exploring and not leveling up. Thats what I'm gonna do when I get home tonight.. The level details of what i saw are pretty good. Take a tour..


???

I know that when you get to level 2 the demo automatically starts a 30 minute timer, but you can still upgrade that skill to a higher level. I believe in the one time I played the demo this morning I was at level 3 or 4 on both agility and shooting skill when the time ran out.

???

I know that when you get to level 2 the demo automatically starts a 30 minute timer, but you can still upgrade that skill to a higher level. I believe in the one time I played the demo this morning I was at level 3 or 4 on both agility and shooting skill when the time ran out.
+1
I got the little demo guy to say that I had maxed out my jumping and running abilities.

Tooled around with the demo a few times and had some questions:

1. how do you scale the taller buildings? I've leveled up my agility a couple of notches, but only seem to be able to jump onto the smaller buildings. Is there a way to "super" jump?

If you've levelled up look for balconies and other architechtural features to climb or jump to. I got to the fourth boss (the woman) by climbing and jumping up the side of the building floor by floor.
Xboxyde (http://www.xboxyde.com/news_3955_en.html) video of someone climbing the Agency Tower in the Demo shows it better than I can explain it. Apparently if you want to get all the way to the top you need to be at least a level three.

If you've levelled up look for balconies and other architechtural features to climb or jump to. I got to the fourth boss (the woman) by climbing and jumping up the side of the building floor by floor.
Xboxyde (http://www.xboxyde.com/news_3955_en.html) video of someone climbing the Agency Tower in the Demo shows it better than I can explain it. Apparently if you want to get all the way to the top you need to be at least a level three.
Wow, that looks awesome! I'm going to try that.

Did any of you guys get to the top of the ferris wheel? That's another fun thing to attempt.

yea i got to the top of the ferris wheel but i had to max out my agility before I could do it. I'm lovin the game, gonna go climb the agency tower now!

LOL , so am I the only one seeing what is happening with this game already ( granted this is just a demo but come on ) ?

People are playing it just to run around and climb stuff ... remember that little game called Crazy Climber from oh about 20 years ago ;) .

I guess I just require more substance , not trying to rain on the praise parade but I am amazed that people are so easy to please in general . We need to be careful or this could become a trend for developers ;) .

Have fun :) .

-- Jason

LOL , so am I the only one seeing what is happening with this game already ( granted this is just a demo but come on ) ?

People are playing it just to run around and climb stuff ... remember that little game called Crazy Climber from oh about 20 years ago ;) .

I guess I just require more substance , not trying to rain on the praise parade but I am amazed that people are so easy to please in general . We need to be careful or this could become a trend for developers ;) .

Have fun :) .

-- Jason
I think the reason people have so much fun just running around, climbing stuff, is because of the free-form nature of the sandbox-type game. People think, "let's see, what can I do... I know, I can go climb something."

It caters to the independent nature of people. People can make up their own goals (I think I'll try to climb that building), then try to achieve them. Instead of letting the game developers decide, "go here, this is your goal" then "shoot this guy, this is your next goal."

I think the reason people have so much fun just running around, climbing stuff, is because of the free-form nature of the sandbox-type game. People think, "let's see, what can I do... I know, I can go climb something."

It caters to the independent nature of people. People can make up their own goals (I think I'll try to climb that building), then try to achieve them. Instead of letting the game developers decide, "go here, this is your goal" then "shoot this guy, this is your next goal."

Yes , good point but then it becomes less of a game if everyone just goofs around . I know people find entertainment in driving the vehicles around just to mow people down but at that point gameplay is no longer a factor if they are only doing it to ooh and ahh . My cousin is one of those people that spends almost as much time messing around within the game as he does actually playing it so I understand it very well (even though I don't find entertainment value in doing so myself) . This 'goofing' around says to me that there is a lack of substance in the game so people resort to other ways to entertain themselves ;) .

But then to each their own :) .

--- Jason

Yes , good point but then it becomes less of a game if everyone just goofs around . I know people find entertainment in driving the vehicles around just to mow people down but at that point gameplay is no longer a factor . My cousin is one of those people that spends almost as much time messing around within the game as he does actually playing it so I understand it very well (even though I don't find entertainment value in doing so myself) . This 'goofing' around says to me that there is a lack of substance in the game so people resort to other ways to entertain themselves ;) .

But then to each their own :) .

--- Jason
I disagree. In any free-form game you are naturally going to want to explore the game and test the design. When I first got GTA 3 I spent hours just running around explring the city, jacking cars, etc. It was a while before I got into the missions.
Oblvion was similar as well.

I disagree. In any free-form game you are naturally going to want to explore the game and test the design. When I first got GTA 3 I spent hours just running around explring the city, jacking cars, etc. It was a while before I got into the missions.
Oblvion was similar as well.


And that is certainly your right to do so , I guess I am just more of a gamer and less of an explorer ;) . When I pay good money for a game I do so because I want to play that game , obviously many others (such as yourself) want to play around within the game . Like I stated my cousin does exactly that so I can relate to the thinking process but I just do not agree with it . Maybe some of it comes down to just how much free time people have to spend gaming , those that have more time are probably more willing to simply mess around while those of us with less game time want the core content .

Actually now that I think about it more my cousin is probably partially to blame for my thinking process as he always used to goof around with every game that we tried to play together while I simply wanted to play the game .

--- Jason

I like to test the limits with these kinds of games. I think you touched on this aspect once before and I understand you want meat in the game and I agree with that too but if the game is free roaming and that in itself has a rewarding experience I would say that makes the game even better.

I think people are enjoying the climbing aspect because it is something generally new for the sandbox-type genre. I don't enjoy driving around for fun in these games like I used to when GTA 3 first came out. So this brings something new for me in that regard (note that I don't at the moment plan to rush out and buy Crackdown; I fear that I will tire of it quickly).

I thought this was more of a free roaming game, not a sandbox game?
But yes, the power ups such as high jumping certainly add a new dimension to this type of game.

My latest fun:

Getting my strenght and aim leveled up. Then kicking a bad guy into the air, locking on and unloading a clip into them before they even land. Too funny everytime!

Also you can do the same with explosions!

I'm really liking this demo. I've probably played through it a dozen times already. The time limit is starting to become annoying, because the beauty of these sorts of games is that they allow you to take your time, scout the territory, explore your options, level-up whatever attributes you find most amusing, etc. In the demo, you kinda gotta rush through all of that at a frantic pace. But hey, I think the demo makes an excellent 'teaser' for the full game. It worked on me. I was pretty lukewarm on the game prior to this week, and now I'm bummed that it doesn't come out for another 25 days! :)

To the folks that complain it's too easy. Well, yeah. It's just a demo. They wanted to allow folks to experiance some of the advanced Agent powers, but only reveal the first few enemies. You're playing the very beginning of the game, but with end-of-game powers.

Here's some amusing vids (http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/773/773714/vids_2.html) that illustrate what you can do once you've leveled up a ton. (Of course no "real" gamer would be interested that sort of "goofing around". Where's the substance? Doubtless only lightweight "explorer" types like me could convince themselves we were enjoying stuff like that... and we'd no doubt only think we were having fun. It's sad, really.)

The game is not actually cell-shaded, although it does use a lot of shaders to give it a cartoony, "unreal" look. Here's (http://blogs.ign.com/Real_Time_Worlds/2007/01/10/42967/) a little write up on the technology. (Again, any real gamer can cut through all the crazy claims and reveal the simple truth that it's just the original Xbox look all over again.)

I'm still not thrilled with the character design on the Agents. Too freaky. Nice to hear that they'll be releasing some other choices.

What a disappointment ... got bored with it in a matter of minutes. Definitely won't buy ... thank God I just got my PS3 to hold me down after my Gears of War craze ended. I expect more from the 360.

And that is certainly your right to do so , I guess I am just more of a gamer and less of an explorer ;) . When I pay good money for a game I do so because I want to play that game , obviously many others (such as yourself) want to play around within the game . Like I stated my cousin does exactly that so I can relate to the thinking process but I just do not agree with it . Maybe some of it comes down to just how much free time people have to spend gaming , those that have more time are probably more willing to simply mess around while those of us with less game time want the core content .

Actually now that I think about it more my cousin is probably partially to blame for my thinking process as he always used to goof around with every game that we tried to play together while I simply wanted to play the game .

--- Jason


I don't get is you made it very clear to everyone you have no interest for this game and that you were dissatisfied. Why are you concerned about how anyone is playing this game after 2 days ago you already wrote this game off. We got it that you don't like it but why continue to come in the thread if you don't care about the game? Oh and don't write back saying I am taking it personal over how you feel about the game. I am just curious why you still comment on somthing you have no desire to play anymore.

This 'goofing' around says to me that there is a lack of substance in the game so people resort to other ways to entertain themselves .

WTF? It is a demo which you should know a demo only gives you so much of the full version :rolleyes:. What game in history out there that you can't goof around in. Hell I can pick any game you do like and enjoy and do a bunch of goofing around. This is regardless if the game last 9 hours or 40 hours there is no game you can't goof around in. Come on you already made it clear you have different taste some peoples taste are similar to yours too but okay we get it.

Here is an intersting thread on Crackdown on teamxbox.

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=503044

And some videos

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Media/Media.htm?CS_pid={7E392FEA-61F6-4DE6-A65E-DB10B35CC472}

LOL , so am I the only one seeing what is happening with this game already ( granted this is just a demo but come on ) ?

People are playing it just to run around and climb stuff ... remember that little game called Crazy Climber from oh about 20 years ago ;) .

I guess I just require more substance , not trying to rain on the praise parade but I am amazed that people are so easy to please in general . We need to be careful or this could become a trend for developers ;) .

Have fun :) .

-- Jason

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8629/eeyore1tn5.jpg

Wow, do you really enjoy taking dumps on people's happiness?

While the climbing is a very very fun part of this game. I like it for all the other reasons as well. Driving, fighting, guns, etc.

I think I am going to try to play this game on the highest difficulty. It really will make it more challenging.

Last night I got a chance to play the demo for about 45 minutes or so. I know it was
more than 30 mins since I did receive a warning at one time saying 30 minutes had elapsed
and I only had 30 more to go. Anyway, overall I thought it was a ton of fun but with lots of
items that bother me. It does seem like GTA but with Cops that have superpowers. Here are my quick initial thoughts and some questions:

- The world seems pretty big. At least big enough to keep me entertained for a while.
- The driving controls are just horrible. Driving is fun, but the cars handle horribly.
I assume that driving often increases your driving skill which may make this better. Is this
true?
- I love the fact that you can commandeer any vehicle. I took over a city bus last night
and just tried to run down all gangsters.
- The mini-map is bad. I couldn't tell where orbs were or what each symbol meant. I bet
that the manual that comes with the game will explain that better than than the narrator did. It better, because I was pretty much lost most of the game.
- Related to the map complaint, I did find one boss but wow was that hard to do. She was
hiding in a building where I had to climb like 8 levels of stairs. She was behind a wall
in a small area that was very difficult to find.
- The weapons are fun. Especially grenads and machine guns. I increased my shooting and explosives skills quite a bit and it was incredible. Grenades on top of barrels were taking out half city blocks! My mahcine gun became bad ass and the targeting worked really well.
- I had trouble finding green orbs so I didn't get the super jumping. How do you find those
orbs???!??? I was able to find 3 or so which was cool because I can see how much fun super jumping is.
- While the game is fun, I also have concerns about the long-term playability. Once you enhance your skills don't you become uber-powerful? I did find at least one mini game (a Muertos driving challenge that drove me mad due to the driving controls) so I'm sure there
will be more of those in the final game
- I jacked up my strength and had the most fun with melee and throws. I loved throwing cars at the gangsters. And I laughed out loud when my kicks became so powerful I was able to kill the bangers with one kick. I started just punting them all off the top of the small roofs I could get to.

All in all, I like but don't love the game. I'll wait to see what the entire game has and what
the reviewers say of the full game. Right now I'm probably at 70% chance to buy.

JS

^^ your driving skills upgrade and so does the handling of the vehicles....



this is a sandbox game that only gives you the wooden frame and the sand....you have to build the castle....


day one purchase here....breath of fresh air for the sandbox genre

I don't get is you made it very clear to everyone you have no interest for this game and that you were dissatisfied. Why are you concerned about how anyone is playing this game after 2 days ago you already wrote this game off. We got it that you don't like it but why continue to come in the thread if you don't care about the game? Oh and don't write back saying I am taking it personal over how you feel about the game. I am just curious why you still comment on somthing you have no desire to play anymore.

For some reason he feels the need to convince everyone it's bad and force his opinion on everyone.

What a disappointment ... got bored with it in a matter of minutes. Definitely won't buy ... thank God I just got my PS3 to hold me down after my Gears of War craze ended. I expect more from the 360.

Stealth trolling FTL.

I don't get is you made it very clear to everyone you have no interest for this game and that you were dissatisfied. Why are you concerned about how anyone is playing this game after 2 days ago you already wrote this game off. We got it that you don't like it but why continue to come in the thread if you don't care about the game? Oh and don't write back saying I am taking it personal over how you feel about the game. I am just curious why you still comment on somthing you have no desire to play anymore.


Well last time I checked this was an open forum for people to state their opinions . I could care less how people play (or don't play) the game and if you think that is what I was saying then you missed my whole point about core gameplay and substance . My point there was that we are possibly already seeing people resort to simply messing around because the actual gameplay is not as enjoyable as simply 'goofing' off . I thought my point was pretty clear and my intention was not to be taken personal , so for those that took my coments for more than my intention I certainly apologize . I am a gamer at heart and I guess I can get a bit carried away when I feel something is junk ( see my Ridge Racer thread for more on that ;) ) . Those that know my post history can vouch for me not holding back my opinions on games but I do not take things to a personal level unless I am attacked first . It is difficult to get ones tone across through simple text and all my comments thus far in this thread have been very light hearted from my end .

So again I will say that I am sorry to any that felt somehow offended by any comments that I have made about this game .

--- Jason

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8629/eeyore1tn5.jpg

Wow, do you really enjoy taking dumps on people's happiness?

Not at all , you missed my whole point ;) .

Besides that if people become somehow less happy with a game because of my comments then they are taking things waaaay too serious .

--- Jason

^^ But really, once you've played the game and realized you don't like it - why continue to post in a thread where people love the game and are very excited for it's retail release?
Between your continued negativity and your smark ;) ;) ;) after every point you make, I can see why people get on you.

^^ But really, once you've played the game and realized you don't like it - why continue to post in a thread where people love the game and are very excited for it's retail release?
Between your continued negativity and your smark ;) ;) ;) after every point you make, I can see why people get on you.

Again some people just take things a bit too serious here and when I use ;) I am not being smark/smug or whatever , I actually use those to mean that my comments are light hearted . Different people use the icons in a different way and to me a wink is just that , if I meant to be rude or offend then I would use different icons ( like :p or :rolleyes: ) .

People like to get on me because I often go against the majority with my gaming opinions and I have no problem with that as long as it does not become personal :) . Nothing wrong with different opinions as far as I am concerned .

---- Jason

Well last time I checked this was an open forum for people to state their opinions . I could care less how people play (or don't play) the game and if you think that is what I was saying then you missed my whole point about core gameplay and substance . My point there was that we are possibly already seeing people resort to simply messing around because the actual gameplay is not as enjoyable as simply 'goofing' off . I thought my point was pretty clear and my intention was not to be taken personal , so for those that took my coments for more than my intention I certainly apologize . I am a gamer at heart and I guess I can get a bit carried away when I feel something is junk ( see my Ridge Racer thread for more on that ;) ) . Those that know my post history can vouch for me not holding back my opinions on games but I do not take things to a personal level unless I am attacked first . It is difficult to get ones tone across through simple text and all my comments thus far in this thread have been very light hearted from my end .

So again I will say that I am sorry to any that felt somehow offended by any comments that I have made about this game .

--- Jason

I got your point and I appreciated your insight. The point of boards like this is to read other people's opinions on games whether they like them or not and why.
I agree that these games should have a strong main focus on their core gameplay and everything else is just additional fun.
Some people like doing things like collecting 100 packages hidden in the city in GTA. That's not my bag & don't bother with stuff like that generally. But it's nice it is there for people who like that sort of thing.

All is cool then DGP
There are characters on other boards I visit who have a similar attitude whose main intention is to troll and *try* to sway opinions.

All is cool then DGP
There are characters on other boards I visit who have a similar attitude whose main intention is to troll and *try* to sway opinions.
You can usually tell and that is usually the case for the console discussions. DGP has been around long enough that he isn't about that.

I dunno the whole "i guess im too much of a gamer and less of an 'adventurer'/goof off" was kind of annoying....and fyi the smilies are annoying too.

Again some people just take things a bit too serious here and when I use ;) I am not being smark/smug or whatever , I actually use those to mean that my comments are light hearted . Different people use the icons in a different way and to me a wink is just that , if I meant to be rude or offend then I would use different icons ( like :p or :rolleyes: ) .

People like to get on me because I often go against the majority with my gaming opinions and I have no problem with that as long as it does not become personal :) . Nothing wrong with different opinions as far as I am concerned .

---- Jason


You seem to be missing the point of the whole question. Why do you keep coming into a thread of a game you already debunked. It isn't the point of you making your opinion about the game no one is having that issue. I just don't understand why continue discussion in a thread of a game you don't care, of a genre you really don't care about? That is all I was asking and I even said I didn't take it personal it just looks funny to me seeing how you want to continue talking about somthing you don't like after you already made it clear in your post you don't like. This isn't an attack but are you not satisfied that your point hasn't came across to everyone that you dislike this game? I guess the real question is what the hell is drawing you back to this thread to continue discussing it? Of course this question is related to the post you made before I asked you my first question :D

I dunno the whole "i guess im too much of a gamer and less of an 'adventurer'/goof off" was kind of annoying....and fyi the smilies are annoying too.

I don't think that was quite what he said/meant. Remember different strokes for everyone. Not everyone looks for the same experience in games.

You seem to be missing the point of the whole question. Why do you keep coming into a thread of a game you already debunked. It isn't the point of you making your opinion about the game no one is having that issue. I just don't understand why continue discussion in a thread of a game you don't care, of a genre you really don't care about? That is all I was asking and I even said I didn't take it personal it just looks funny to me seeing how you want to continue talking about somthing you don't like after you already made it clear in your post you don't like. This isn't an attack but are you not satisfied that your point hasn't came across to everyone that you dislike this game? I guess the real question is what the hell is drawing you back to this thread to continue discussing it? Of course this question is related to the post you made before I asked you my first question :D

I think he keeps coming back because he wants all of you to listen to him and stop enjoying this bargain bin demo. JUST DELETE YOUR CRACKDOWN DEMO, DAMNIT!!!! ;)

mboojigga ,

I did not come back in the thread to give my opinion again , you missed the point of the post that seems to be catching all the flack !

I came back and posted because I thought it was funny that people were praising the demo because they could simply run around and jump from building to building versus praising the game because of the core content . If you read between the lines this was more of a knock at the developers than anything else . I posted my opinion of the game early on and then just had small little conversations with others through the course of the thread . I was not aware that I was not welcome back once I had stated my initial opinion ( I have seen many threads where people have come back and commented further beyond their initial post ) .



tbass2k ,

I am not trying to convince anyone to stop playing it , all I have said all along is play what you enjoy .



That is all and nothing more so let us please move along now as people are starting to take things out of context and twist them in order to jump in on the let's bash Jason bandwagon .


* Thank You Doc K , you seem to be one of the only people that understands my point about content and not bashing just because you disagree with my opinion . *

--- Jason

What a disappointment ... got bored with it in a matter of minutes. Definitely won't buy ... thank God I just got my PS3 to hold me down after my Gears of War craze ended. I expect more from the 360.
Yeah I hear resistance is a pretty cool and thankfully long game.

I dunno the whole "i guess im too much of a gamer and less of an 'adventurer'/goof off" was kind of annoying....and fyi the smilies are annoying too.

You took that waaay out of context , I was just explaining that I have a different view of what gaming content matters to me . I never stated that I was too much of a gamer , simply that I am a gamer and not an explorer (a choice that we are all allowed to make) .

fyi , if you don't like icons then you must have a hard time with internet forums in general . It is not polite to bash somebody because of their typing style .




Sheesh , do people even read the posts anymore ... :( .

Simple solution for those that don't want to see my posts , just add me to your ignore list , I could honestly care less and will not be offended . I have never added anybody to my ignore list because I like reading what everybody has to say and I value every opinion .

Anyway get this thread back on track and keep it about the game (not about my posts) . I will not post in this thread any more unless somebody else decides to bash and I will of course defend myself at such point (even though I should not have to) .


----- Jason

I'm with ya too, pimp. Forget those that say you're not welcome to post if you don't agree with them...

BTW, as I mentioned in an earlier post, I'll be buying this game. But that doesn't mean I don't want to hear what other people with different opinions have to say about it.

In fact, I thought your comment about being more of a "gamer" and less of an "explorer" was an interesting one.

Keep posting! Thanks for making sure that people hear more than just one side of the story.

I'm with ya too, pimp. Forget those that say you're not welcome to post if you don't agree with them...

BTW, as I mentioned in an earlier post, I'll be buying this game. But that doesn't mean I don't want to hear what other people with different opinions have to say about it.

In fact, I thought your comment about being more of a "gamer" and less of an "explorer" was an interesting one.

Keep posting! Thanks for making sure that people hear more than just one side of the story.


I consider myself a gamer. I'm 30 years old and have been gaming since I can remember. I also love the option in Crackdown to be able to explore everywhere and everything. So does that no longer make me a gamer? I think that's an incredibly stupid statement.

I consider myself a gamer. I'm 30 years old and have been gaming since I can remember. I also love the option in Crackdown to be able to explore everywhere and everything. So does that no longer make me a gamer? I think that's an incredibly stupid statement.


Are we going to let this go anytime soon ... my plea for peace sure did not last long :( .


Thank you for insulting me by calling my comment "incredibly stupid" , way to go :confused: .

Of course you are still a gamer , my comment was simply that I am more gamer than explorer (which does not imply that a mixture of both is still not a gamer) . Maybe I should have said a more serious gamer , or a more content driven gamer .

NOW PLEASE JUST LET THIS GO or the thread will certainly not last much longer .

* Thank You G-Bull for 'getting it' even though you disagree :) *

------- Jason

Finally got the demo downloaded and a chance to play. First impressions after an hour are it is fun to play. The leveling up aspect of it is a nice treat. I feel the controls are a little to loose for my liking, but I think I could get used to it. I like the look of the game it seems cartoony when you get up close to your guy. Not sure about the story line, but then again its a demo so who knows. I'm probably leaning towards getting this game when it comes out. I may wait a little and see what the reviews are like.

I didn't want to buy this game because there are too many other good games coming. However after spending the afternoon playing the demo, I pretty much have to get the game.

The game is not perfect, but if had to describe the game in one word it would be - FUN!

btw - has anyone been able to successfully complete the 62 point driving race? The one that starts right behind you when you jump out of the agency building? I tried a couple times but there is just too much traffic and I always end up crashing into things.

I've been having some fun tooling around in the demo, but what I want to know is: where are the missions? I really hope the gameplay of the final version has greater diversity than the demo. I mean, the mission structure in the demo is soooo repetitive: drive/run and jump to point A, take out bad guys, rinse and repeat, with a few driving missions mixed in for good measure.

Also, to me at least, the city doesn't feel "alive" like in GTA games or even in Saints Row. The citizens just have no personality.

They really need to mix things up a bit or this is going to strictly be a rental.

Finally had a chance to play to the game.. well demo..

Im not even a fan of GTA style games, but the superpowers aspect of it really sticks this one out. I really cant see how this one can rate lowly on anyones scale. But I guess to each his own.

I'm defnitely buying the game. The game itself and the Halo3 beta invite is easily worth $60 bucks! Especially compared to alot of other games being sold at that price.

Also, to me at least, the city doesn't feel "alive" like in GTA games or even in Saints Row. The citizens just have no personality.

Interesting that you feel that way. I know there are less smartarse comments off camera by NPCs than GTA/SR but I actually found that a bit refreshing. The one thing that amazed me about this demo was how bystanders will get involved, even so far as picking up weapons and returning fire in shootouts.

I'm hoping the Google Checkout $10 off at Buy.com will last long enough to use on this game. I really liked the demo, hopefully we get more "missions" kind of like the GTA storyline.

Regarding the graphics, it reminded me of other cell-based games like XIII. It's cool, but nothing revolutionary (eg. GOW).

I downloaded and played the demo. And I'm still playing the demo. I'm getting this game. The first time I played, I was just driving around, seeing the sites, every now and again shooting some crooks. And then I leveld up ...

Woah.

I haven't leveled up my driving skills, I may try that next. I went through one time, leveled my strength to the max, and just went around kicking the s#it out of people. I'm not really a fan of GTA, but I got Saints Row and enjoyed that, and I'm definatly getting this one. I don't know ... it's something different about this game compared to GTA. I got boared of GTA pretty quickly. Saints Row held my attention. I think this one will, too. Great game judging from the demo, IMOA ...


Freddy C.

playing for the games missions vs. exploring the game IS an interesting topic and deserves it's own post.

I never thought about it that way, and now see why I suck at shooters vs. sandbox. I get bored following pre-determined missions and desire to do things my own way. It is taking me forever to get thru COD3 (for ex.), because I hang around just enjoying the atmosphere. (and getting blasted from all directions out in the open) My friend is always yelling in my ear, GO THERE, DO THIS, WRONG WEAPON... and I'm like, yo I want to do it MY way. And then I die again.

Having said that, GTA hasn't been finished yet, but is still fun to me, SR is ok, not as immersive as GTA. I have pimped 15 cars purple. Test Drive is a great game for exploring, and not following the rules. Problem is, everyone else is a "champion" and I am only a "pro"

Don't need 3 sandboxes, so I won't be getting Crackdown tho. Too much is not good.

The demo was pretty bad. No wonder they are bribing people to buy this with Halo beta invites.

Interesting that you feel that way. I know there are less smartarse comments off camera by NPCs than GTA/SR but I actually found that a bit refreshing. The one thing that amazed me about this demo was how bystanders will get involved, even so far as picking up weapons and returning fire in shootouts.


interesting. hadn't noticed that. I'll have to go back and check it out.

The demo was pretty bad. No wonder they are bribing people to buy this with Halo beta invites.
Wow tgable, I'm shocked you would have such an opinion

Demo was pretty bad (also sarcasm)..yet it is #4 on the play chart this week...and its a 1 hour (about) time limited demo. Interesting.
http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2007/01/27/xbox-live-activity-for-week-of-1-22.aspx
Must be lots and lots of dissappointed people this week. Of course, everyone has different taste.

This is the first demo I have played multiple times and I admit I worry if the full game will be any "more" then the demo is. If not then I could just keep playing the demo and save $60. I have heard a lot of people say they have played this demo over and over. Is that typical of demo players? Or are people just finding pure mindless fun in this demo? If so, again would they be interested in playing the full game if they can have just as much fun (or more so since you are already leveled up) then they would with the full game. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

I enjoyed the demo but may hold off unless I find it used, I see this one ending up like all the GTA games for me - a lot of fun but never completed. I prefer things a little more linear.
I think I'm the only person out there who likes short games.

I enjoyed the demo but may hold off unless I find it used, I see this one ending up like all the GTA games for me - a lot of fun but never completed. I prefer things a little more linear.
I think I'm the only person out there who likes short games.

There's a difference between a game being long with a good story and a game that has a lot of repetitive stuff just to drag out the play length (i.e. wind waker or viewtiful joe)

Demo was pretty bad (also sarcasm)..yet it is #4 on the play chart this week...and its a 1 hour (about) time limited demo. Interesting.
http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2007/01/27/xbox-live-activity-for-week-of-1-22.aspx
Must be lots and lots of dissappointed people this week. Of course, everyone has different taste.

This is the first demo I have played multiple times and I admit I worry if the full game will be any "more" then the demo is. If not then I could just keep playing the demo and save $60. I have heard a lot of people say they have played this demo over and over. Is that typical of demo players? Or are people just finding pure mindless fun in this demo? If so, again would they be interested in playing the full game if they can have just as much fun (or more so since you are already leveled up) then they would with the full game. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Lost Planet was the first demo for me after almost a year of playing I was playing that demo every now and then up until I got it this month. It happens sometimes :cool:

Anyone notice some screen-tearing in the Crackdown demo? It's not as bad as in Saint's Row, but it is noticeable and a bit distracting. The framerate is pretty solid, though I hope they will enable v-sync in the final version.

I'm just wondering if anyone else is seeing it. I hope it's not a problem with my display (Samsung DLP @720p)

I played the demo and it was okay for my tastes. After a while, I felt like I was just running around aimlessly doing repetitive tasks like the days of GTA. I always felt like GTA wasn't that great. Sure the "sandbox" idea of GTA was absolutely brilliant, but for whatever reason it just didn't do it for me.

Nevertheless, both GTA and Crackdown are fun for a short while for my tastes. And if you like the GTA genre, I think you will love Crackdown (better graphics, controls, levelling up, etc.).

-Anyone know if the rocket launcher is in the demo? If yes, where is it?

-I've found/killed 4 bosses. Are there more than that? Is there a Kingpin in the demo?

-What's a fast way to level up the driving skill? I've just been running over bad guys and getting the points.

-Anyone know how long it'll take to get your Agent up to level 4 in the ACTUAL game? Anyone read anything by the developers that suggested a leveling-up time?

nothing?

-Anyone know if the rocket launcher is in the demo? If yes, where is it?

-I've found/killed 4 bosses. Are there more than that? Is there a Kingpin in the demo?

-What's a fast way to level up the driving skill? I've just been running over bad guys and getting the points.

-Anyone know how long it'll take to get your Agent up to level 4 in the ACTUAL game? Anyone read anything by the developers that suggested a leveling-up time?

1) No rockets launcher in the demo, there is a grenade launcher. This is found by the Volk who sometimes come in an APC near the blue barrier on the bridge that leads to their island. Also, I think the boss near the Sport Complex *sometimes* has one.

2) Only 4 in the demo, no Kingpin.

3) Running over enemies. Also hitting the stunt markers (like the one right outside of where you first drive out of). There are a few spread out in the demo.

4) I don't think they've stated how long. I know though they said you are getting something like 10x the XP you would normally be getting in the demo. Also, alot of the findable Orbs (like the agility and hidden ones) won't have so many stacked on each other.

omg.. I gotta kick out of this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-8v4uK7FhE


Oh and I finally found the hidden tunnels. Nicee... This game is AWESOME

Blog from Crackdown release manager talking about the weapons.....and some stuff they disabled when testers found them (:( on the last one)
http://blogs.ign.com/Real_Time_Worlds/2007/01/31/45311/

I finally had a chance to really play this demo. Lots of fun, unlike the first 2 minute test I gave it.

I'm curious though, I know the skills were accelerated, but I can't imagine it taking 500 agility items to max out your agility (plus races)... I wonder what happens after you max out and still pick up the rest of them.

Probably pick this one up.

I finally had a chance to really play this demo. Lots of fun, unlike the first 2 minute test I gave it.

I'm curious though, I know the skills were accelerated, but I can't imagine it taking 500 agility items to max out your agility (plus races)... I wonder what happens after you max out and still pick up the rest of them.

Probably pick this one up.


Most likely onces you collect them all you get an achievement. I read the last achievement isn't in the game yet and that it is in the to be released downloadable content that will be available.

I am really impressed with this game. The first time I played it I gave it about 20 minutes and didn't collect any powerups. I just ran around completing objectives, and I thought it really sucked. Then I read a few blogs about getting powerups, and I went back to give it another try. After getting a bunch of powerups, especially agility, this game really comes to life! The pace quickens and pretty soon I was flying around the map putting jack moves on all sorts of people. I am certainly excited to get the retail game and the halo 3 beta of course.

Moral of this story..... if you've only played crackdown for a few minutes you haven given the game the attention it deserves. Get all the powerups you can by collecting agility boosters, shooting people, beating up people, and blowing stuff up......then this game really starts to take the form the developers want you to see!

I've played the demo until it timed out on me twice, and I plan on playing it a few more times before the final release hits the shelves. GRAW 2 demo is also out there.....it's impressive, but much too short.

my 2 cents....if anyone cares

After reading some of the posts in this thread, I was hesitant to even download this demo. I expected the game to be ugly, boring and disappointing.

I am glad that I tried it for myself.

The game is not ugly nor is it photorealistic. It is a cartoony game and it looks kind of cartoonish. I don't know what people were expecting. Probably GOW meets GTA. As interesting as that would have been, the developers went a different way with it. I truthfully say that it looks better than any other sandbox type that has yet been released. There is no question in my mind that this is a next-gen game.

I like the general story of the game. You are some kind of super agent whose mission it is to restore order to an out of control city. The controls are easy to learn. The aiming system is easy. The handling of the cars is sometimes sluggish. There are an insane number of bad guys to kill. There are lots of fun ways to kill them.

The city feels like a real city. There are plenty of civilians roaming and driving the streets. Bad guys are easy to recognize.

There are, of course, limitations. Everyone appears to be outside all the time. I don't think you (or anyone else) every gets to go inside. I would say that this detracts from the realism, but so too would throwing a car at a bad guy.

I like this better, I think, than Lost Planet, a game that I thought was a lot of fun to play. I expect that I will be buying this one.

Me for one am glad some people have enjoyed this game. I am betting this maybe a sleeper hit in it's own right. I have played the demo about 10 times already trying to do different stunts or create new and exciting explosions.. And even touring the city to see what hidden gems I could find..

All in all, I will definitely enjoy this game. It is what Superman Returns should of been. The game play on that game is lacking, but the environment looks awesome.. They missed the mark on that one.

This game will sell over a 1 million copies..

Considering it includes the Beta invite for Halo3.. it may reach 1.5 - 2 million by the end of year.

I think word of mouth sells games more than any type of advertising.. and the buzz on Crackdown everywhere I go (internet, friends, even G4TV) people are loving it. Add in the Halo lovers (basically everybody) and its a guaranteed hit.

I think thats one of the reason MS made the other ways to get the Halo3 invite so diffulcult. Is to make people yearn for it, and then realize when its available but they cant get it for free.. all it takes is $60 bucks to solve that yearning.. and eventually create a Crackdown fanbase of its own.

Looking at things like the top 10 things to do in Crackdown videos we are already seeing floating around the net.. its already established a pretty decent fanbase!

definitely getting this game when it comes out. i've seen videos before i got the demo and it didn't look that impressive, but once i started playing it's a whole different story.

the game isn't super impressive graphically like GOW was but it has an great draw distance and never slows down even when you just blew up half the screen. it also has small graphic touches that really stand out when you're playing, great explosions and i love the ground cracking effect when you land from a big jump.

the jumping and exploring alone kept me playing the demo several times, once you get the agility and strength up you can tear it up just running around and kicking the hell out of people.

This is the first demo I have played multiple times and I admit I worry if the full game will be any "more" then the demo is. If not then I could just keep playing the demo and save $60. I have heard a lot of people say they have played this demo over and over. Is that typical of demo players? Or are people just finding pure mindless fun in this demo? If so, again would they be interested in playing the full game if they can have just as much fun (or more so since you are already leveled up) then they would with the full game. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
I've played the demo 10+ times. That's definitely a high number of repeats for me. (I've probably played the Lost Planet demo that many times, but that's over months and months. Interestingly, I don't have much interest in picking up the "full" version of Lost Planet. Not sure why.)

Why have I played the Crackdown demo so many dang times? Two main reasons:

1) It's crazy stupid fun. (As long as you're not a "gamer", apparently.) ;)
2) The time limit. Unless you rush around like a weasel on crack, you're not going to be able to do "everything" in a single play-through. I've done an hour of nothing but driving, nothing but climbing, etc. This allows me to see what each of those activities are like once you (the character) are skilled in that area.

I think the "real" game will play quite a bit differently. You won't be leveling up nearly as quickly, thus all the bad guys will be harder to kill. Hopefully, there will be times when the next boss seems impossible to kill. At that point, you'll need to back off, buff some skills, and/or find an alternate approach. (Snipe from a distant tower. Set an explosive booby trap. Position a ramp so you can jump the SUV right into the bad guy's lair, etc.)

The demo (time limit) is getting a bit annoying now. Just as I get myself all powered up, I get kicked out. I'm really looking forward to getting the full game, so I can enjoy myself in a more leisurely, indulgent, fashion. :)

Wow, non-gamers are really enjoying this game

Well since some of you can't seem to let my 'gamer' comment go here is something quoted right from the games developer . I will refrain from any further comment , nuff said .




Halo 3 Gives Crackdown a Boost

The main developer behind Crackdown on the Xbox 360 has admitted that Crackdown needed as much help as possible to boost it onto the market. He revealed that it's a 'gamer player's game' and as such will not sell in in instant. Therfore the bundled Halo 3 beta invite was a real blessing.


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So bring on "Halo 3" for the save. Three months ago, Jones was told that the mother of all Xbox video games would have a limited-access multiplayer beta test this spring months before its late 2007 release and that "Crackdown" would be bundled with free invitations for gamers to join that test. Was that a slap, a sign that his own publisher didn't think people would buy "Crackdown" on its own merits? "We kind of knew 'Crackdown' would need as much help as it could get to get into players' hands," Jones said. "Like we've always said: It's a game player's game. It's not something that's going to sell in screenshot. So that was good."


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News Source: MTV

Obviously it is you who can't let it go it has been 2 weeks now and it is clear you worry about what others say on here yet you continue to check this thread to see what is being said. Quit worrying about small sh*t and let it go. You and a few others do not care about the game or are dissapointed or sandbox games just are not your trend. As I said before we got it. What does posting a news article from MTV going to do make me think different of a game I already preordered because this is a qoute that was taken from the developer. I asked you this before what keeps bringing you here and are you not the same person who says not to take this stuff personal because that is what this last post of yours is clearly about. But you can point me out if you like too about the gamer comment because of my last post. I don't take this stuff personally and I can move on and so I am not hurting your feelings or "make excuses of continuing to bring you back to this forum" I won't comment about your gamer comments. I just can't speak for any other grown person in here though.


Oh and what I take from that comment is what alot of people actually don't see boths sides you obvously believe it is a jab of a comment on his own game when actually what he is saying is that it is quite possible people will be in a suprise for this latest sandbox game for anyone thinking of just getting the beta or didn't think the game is going to be as good as they thought it would be. From a company perspective they don't care if you beat the game in a week or take 6 months they got the 60 bucks and if you are the type of gamer that rushes through a game or spends 30 minutes from time to time which is most people who actually go to a job and only have afternoon and weekends to spend some time on the game systems then they have done what the set out to do that is offer you a product and spend your money on it and if you do they have done there job. What you do after who the hell cares really.

mboojigga ,

Look , it's very simple ... my gamer comment was taken out of context and some of you refuse to let it go (are you saying your above "gamer" post was not a poke at me , as was the post right before it , we all know it was) . I have no hard feelings toward you or anybody else but I don't take kindly when people continue to poke fun at something that I stated to be about me and the way that I play games (based on content and not simply exploring) . I often read threads on games that I dislike because I value others opinions and enjoy reading about gaming in general . I would not have posted anything about the developer quote had some of you not been poking more fun at my "gamer" comment which should have been let go since it was taken out of context (do you not agree) . Remember that I said I would no longer post in the thread unless I felt the need to defend myself , I asked everyone to kindly let it go and some of you decided not to (probably because you figured I would not return to the thread and you could have your fun at my expense) .

Bottom line here is we can agree to disagree on the game , and I could care less about this game , but people need to stop poking fun at my expense because honestly I find it insulting .


Now I will ask again that people just please let the "gamer" comment go as it was not meant to insult , it was me commenting about the way that I play games and nothing more .

The developer comment can be taken a couple different ways ( I agree with you ) but the plain truth of it is that even the dev thinks it needs help in order to sell .

Thank You ,
-- Jason

By the way I applaud you for helping to defend our country and I appreciate your sacrifice by being away from loved ones in order to do so ( I have a cousin over there that is a medic and we miss her very much ) . Best Wishes !

Two weeks until the release!

Anybody know what kind of multiplayer features we're gonna get with this title -- just co-op or deathmatch or car/objective races or CTF or anything?

Since it's a MS title, I'd be surprised if they don't do something good with it on live...

Bottom line here is we can agree to disagree on the game , and I could care less about this game , but people need to stop poking fun at my expense because honestly I find it insulting .


I've tried to let this one go, because Man I've known you on here for years and years.. and you have always been one of the cooler people.. thats pretty much neutral.

As insulting as you find whatever comments to be. You have to grow thicker skin Jason. People are ALWAYS going to say things you find insulting. What are you going to do, reply 10 times in every thread they do just so you can have the last word. Its 1 of you.. and 10 of them.

Be the bigger man this time around. Let it go. Tell yourself you are never going to click on this thread again and be done with it.

You've explained yourself a 100x times already, in the exact same thread. You have no intention whatsoever in buying the game ever, you didnt like the demo, blah blah blah..

After you stated that a couple of times.. every single reply, rebuttal, etc after that is only serving to derail the thread more and more, and cant be seen as anything besides pooping on other peoples parade who find the game thrilling. Not to mention you are only serving to attract more NEGATIVE attention to yourself.

Please realize this!

Trust I know myself and others have made several comments that were far from any positive about certain PS3 related issues. But all said and done its about alot issues with have with different aspects and features of the PS3.. not just one single game getting beat down over and over..
And most of us are still only a $200 pricedrop or a few GREAT games away from purchasing a PS3. Not to mention I highly doubt if any of us have replied 10x in a single thread expressing how much we didnt care for whatever it is thats PS3 related.

The constant comebacks you have in this thread could be defined as nothing more than hating on the game Crackdown. I CANT imagine you liking it even if they did drop the price. Its okay not to like something man, just try not like it and move on to other things.

Those that do like it, dont want to hear about it over and over and over again every time a new page in this thread popped.

Guys, enough is enough. Jason, you've said your peace, I would move on.

Everyone else, keep the comments civil.

Let's move on...

Thank You Kyser !

--- Jason

All right, looks like that's over. Anyone want to talk about Crackdown again?

Here, I'll post my last post again, just in case you missed it while you were trying to scroll past the other conversation.
Two weeks until the release!

Anybody know what kind of multiplayer features we're gonna get with this title -- just co-op or deathmatch or car/objective races or CTF or anything?

Since it's a MS title, I'd be surprised if they don't do something good with it on live...
I suppose Viva Pinata was a MS title, too, and that doesn't do a whole lot on xbox live, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised if Crackdown doesn't, either. But I sure hope it would...

All right, looks like that's over. Anyone want to talk about Crackdown again?

Here, I'll post my last post again, just in case you missed it while you were trying to scroll past the other conversation.

I suppose Viva Pinata was a MS title, too, and that doesn't do a whole lot on xbox live, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised if Crackdown doesn't, either. But I sure hope it would...

This is the one thing that's holding me back from purchasing this game. I'd really like to see some kind of deathmatch thing with this title. I'm waiting for a free roaming game like this where you can hang out on top of a building, and snipe someone a mile away, or race, or just hit someone with a car door.

I read in an interview the developers mentioned the *possibility* of a 16 player deathmatch. I will have to dig it up but it would be an add-on through the marketplace but it wasn't anything definite.

I read in an interview the developers mentioned the *possibility* of a 16 player deathmatch. I will have to dig it up but it would be an add-on through the marketplace but it wasn't anything definite.

Yeah, we still don't really know what they will have in the add-on pack that we know is coming, and I would not be surprised at a second pack as well (following the 30/90 rule that MS likes devs to follow).

If that's true, I'll be all over it. I guess I'll wait until there is officical word. $60 is a bit much to gamble with on a possibility.

Just wanted to let you guys know that we have a glowing review of Crackdown (reatil) in our latest show, along with Lost Planet.

http://www.playedpodcast.com/2007-02-06/played-episode-185/

Buy Crackdown for its great game, not the Halo 3 invite, says dev
Wednesday 7-Feb-2007 11:49 AM Realtime Worlds designer gives CVG his thoughts on the Halo 3 beta being bundled with Crackdown
11 CommentsIn a soon-to-be-published interview with CVG, Crackdown senior designer Stephen Iannetta says that after playing the demo he thinks gamers will "buy Crackdown on the basis of Crackdown" and not just for an invite to the Halo 3 multiplayer beta.

"Prior to the demo coming out there were a lot of people saying 'wait a minute, this is just a way to sell Crackdown'," he says, "and I think the more they played the demo the more they realised 'no wait, this is a great game'".

The multiplayer beta invites are due to ship with all initial copies of Crackdown, one of three methods to gain access when it launches this spring.

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"I think it's really clever marketing by Microsoft", Iannetta continues. "I think the people that have played the demo and seen the game will actually realise it's a selling point for Crackdown and it's not used to get more copies out of it."

Iannetta also told CVG that he thinks that the two games are "complementary products" and that "people who enjoy playing Halo will enjoy playing Crackdown".

Look out for the full interview on CVG soon

http://computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=157105