I've been anxious to play this game for quite some time now, but am having a hard time deciding if I should go ahead and buy it on XB360 or wait until the PS3 version comes out. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Buy it on 360, play it now.

It'll be the same game on the PS3, but it'll cost 60 bucks and you'll have to wait another month or so to play it. You can find it for the 360 for around 40 bucks.

Save the extra money, buy the add ons, play it, have fun.

Use the PS3 for Resistance and good looking movies. Use the 360 for Oblivion. You're lucky and get to choose between consoles.

I can't believe you don't have it yet. Yes run down to wherever right now, buy it, worship it. Best game ever!

And don't forget your Google Map of Oblivion...

http://www.uesp.net/oblivion/map/obmap.shtml

With all of the great 360 games, I have yet to pick this one up. Is there any word on an updated version being released that includes all of the extras? I remember reading somewhere about the PS3 getting an updated version. Is this the recently announced add-on or something more just for the PS3?

Thank you

And don't forget your Google Map of Oblivion...

http://www.uesp.net/oblivion/map/obmap.shtml

That's cool!

I have SOOO much more to do/go in this game. I'm only at Skingrad (after walking from Imperial City). Just got my first recommendation to join the Mages guild.

The PS3 version will include Knights of the Nine. Thats about the only difference between the PS3 and 360 version content wise. Of course on the 360 you can download Knights of the Nine as well as a bunch of other add-ons at this very moment. I suggest once again that you go out and buy the damn game and stop waffling. No point in waiting, you're just hurting yourself by not enjoying this great game.

I'd say buy it now, that way when Mass Effect comes out you are ready to play it! ;)

I have SOOO much more to do/go in this game. I'm only at Skingrad (after walking from Imperial City). Just got my first recommendation to join the Mages guild.


Oh man, you have no idea what you are in store for. I feel like a father watching his kid open a present for his birthday. I know what's inside, and I know that the kid will love what's inside, and I can't wait to see the look on his face when he finally... opens... it... and... sees... how... wonderful... it... is...

Ironically I, too, haven't completed the game yet either, so my analogy doesn't quite hold. I'm 70 hours in, though, and have completed the Mages, Fighters and Thieves Guild quest lines, as well the Arena, and also lord knows how many random side quests and accidentally found Daedric shrines. I finally started the main quest last night and my jaw dropped when I first saw, and then entered, the Oblivion Gate. Even after 70 hours of gameplay I'm still in awe of how wonderful this game is.

Anyway enjoy it - this game is a blast! I know you haven't asked for tips, but I will tell you that getting your armorer skill past 50 is a huge advantage - making you able to repair magical items. Then you can enchant the crap out of all your armor and have all sorts of amazing "constant effect" enchantments to boost your character.

You have a whole world ahead of you!

As to the guy wondering if he should buy it now or later, the answer is to obviously buy it now. I realize the PS3 version will come with Knights of the Nine included, but it's $10 on XBL right now. And you can get the 360 version for $45 new (check the Tower Records sale), so even if you buy the Knights add-on, you still come in cheaper than the PS3 version. Plus you get the months of playing that you wouldn't have while waiting for the PS3 version.

I'm betting the ps3 version won't freeze up as much and the frame rate might even be higher, but everything else will probably be the same

I can't believe you don't have it yet. Yes run down to wherever right now, buy it, worship it. Best game ever!

Uh no. Oblivion is mostly hype and pretty landscapes. As far as a RPG it's quite broke. The skill system and level system is borked. Combat is easy, too many "I win" buttons. It has a good story and quests, but the core gameplay is just too lame IMO.

Wait for the PS3 reviews or buy it for the PC, which is the best version and cheapest.

The 360 version was very buggy too. It locked up about once an hour and I never could finish the last Oblivion gate, it crashed in about the same spot everytime. Maybe they patched it?

is this a RPG played online or a regular RPG?

is this a RPG played online or a regular RPG?

Regular RPG.

I can't believe you don't have it yet. Yes run down to wherever right now, buy it, worship it. Best game ever!

Could not agree more. Great gameplay, great story lines, great skill scaling, super graphics, and so on. At 300 hours I had to take a break, but now I'm back in with the add-on downloads. I think I had about 4 lockups in 300 hours, but I save often anyway. If I was getting a lockup every hour like tgable, I'd feel different I guess.

Love the total flexibility of its free-form world. The only linearity is in brief conversations or major events

Oh, and I bought the PC version since my PC was feeling jealous, and I like playing the mods

Could not agree more. Great gameplay, great story lines, great skill scaling, super graphics, and so on. At 300 hours I had to take a break, but now I'm back in with the add-on downloads.

300 hours! I don't know if I could take it that long.

Please don't get me wrong - I'm currently at 70 hours and JUST starting the main quest. Between the main quest and the Dark Brotherhood (which I am saving for the end, lest I accidentally assassinate a NPC it turns out I needed to talk to), I expect to be fully complete with the game at 120 hours and couldn't be more thrilled with the time involved. In today's market where single player campaigns on some games last 12 hours, 8 hours or even 5 hours, a game that I can play for 120 hours and still experience new things is a very welcome breath of fresh air.

I just wonder if, after 120 hours, I would have the drive to put in 180 hours more! :-)

Can I ask you this: considering your extensive experience, is there any particular quest, item, spell, NPC, location or storyline that you just thought was SO COOL or jaw-doppingly amazing that you can't imagine playing the game without experiencing it? Is there someone or something you did that you would consider a MUST DO for any Oblivion player? I want to make sure I don't miss out! Thanks.

I finished all the quests and side quests except for a majority of the Daedric Shrines in 70 hours. Now with Knights of the Nine, I'm up to about 85 hours. One thing I read about the PS3 version is that it will probably not support downloadable content and only offer Knights of the Nine, not any of the other downloadable missions/areas. I don't know if this still true.

Buy it know for whichever console you choose, I recomend 360, and be sure to download some of the extra content, PS3 should come with this I believe, like Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine. So much fun.

Things I have REALLY enjoyed...

Enchanting a bow with "Command..." such that it causes the target to fight on my behalf. To get this to work on very high level targets, I had to reduce the duration of the effect to say 3 seconds. So hiding in the shadows, I let off an arrow only when the target is near other bad guys.

Taking Martin and the long-lost twin brothers along as bodyguards. I'm not great at fighting, so need help. They claim not to be good fighters. Not true.

The unicorn. Getting it. Also, I took it on the main quest and made the mistake of dismounting during a conflict with the bad guys. That unicorn dislikes anyone with a weapon. Martin and Jauffre lost a lot of blood.

Enraging an innocent.

Finding a battle in progress and joining in.

The view from the mountains (where the wizard's tower is added).

Tricking a bad guy into following me over a cliff or other steep place, such that he dies and I just get injured.

Finding a countess almost naked in the wilderness running for her life. (Need to do the quest where the party loses its clothes first)

Picking pockets of important people.

Using remote manipulation spells to grab out-of-reach welkynd stones.

So I like the problem solving, the mischief as well as the actual quests

Enraging an innocent.

I laughed out loud. I feel like this is something I would really enjoy doing. Thanks for the tip.

I guess I missed out on the Unicorn mystique. I had accidentally wandered through the Unicorn's grove even before I accidentally found the Daedric Shrine associated with it. Some ogres attacked me, which I quickly dispatched, and then I noticed the unicorn attacking me. Well, having seen Legend starring Tom Cruise (before his Top Gun days) and Tim Curry as Satan, I know you're never supposed to kill a unicorn. Unfortunately I couldn't get it to stop attacking me, so I killed it and pocketed his horn. Fortunately for me it made the Daedric Quest a snap. Unfortunately for me, the unicorn lasted in the game for me for about 25 seconds.

Anyway, great tip about enraging people. Thanks!

I don't know the exact date, but I recall reading that this was going to be a best seller title in the spring and thus retailing for $30. I have many games already that I am working on so I am waiting for the price drop and w/coupon getting it brand new for $25 at Best Buy.

And don't forget your Google Map of Oblivion...

http://www.uesp.net/oblivion/map/obmap.shtml
THAT is cool.

Buy it know for whichever console you choose, I recomend 360, and be sure to download some of the extra content, PS3 should come with this I believe, like Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine. So much fun.
The PS3 version is definitely no coming with Shivering Isles and definitely does not have any extra content on the disc (ie Mehrunes Razor) other than Knights of the Nine. I know that much.

The PS3 version is definitely no coming with Shivering Isles and definitely does not have any extra content on the disc (ie Mehrunes Razor) other than Knights of the Nine. I know that much.
Well it's the 360 version then. I wish I hadn't traded it in.

The game is called Oblivion for a reason. That's what happens to your social life when you start playing it.

The game is called Oblivion for a reason. That's what happens to your social life when you start playing it.

I have been debating on rather to pick this one.. I am PC Gamer trying to find my way into consoles. I played WoW for about a year. I still enjoy it, but most of my friends have quit playing. So, since most of my WoW time was spent doing PvP and I never cared a lot for the PvE part of it, I am skeptical that I will like this game. I have tried to rent it, but my stores are also out.

I really don't like the way the leveling system sounds. I am not a big fan of the character levels anyways. I would much prefer skills based leveling only.

Which controller do you prefer? You'll be spending a lot of time with the game, so that's what I would base my decision off if I were you.

I have been debating on rather to pick this one.. I am PC Gamer trying to find my way into consoles. I played WoW for about a year. I still enjoy it, but most of my friends have quit playing. So, since most of my WoW time was spent doing PvP and I never cared a lot for the PvE part of it, I am skeptical that I will like this game. I have tried to rent it, but my stores are also out.

I really don't like the way the leveling system sounds. I am not a big fan of the character levels anyways. I would much prefer skills based leveling only.

I also have this same problem. Coming from WoW i would have high expectations of the game. I guess i'll rent it and give it a shot. i'll throw some feedback when i get a chance.

I'm not a fan of Oblivion, but then again, it's not my kind of game. But for all you fans, have you seen the new Shivering Isles content being released. Apparently it's 25% as big as the game and is 800 points. Not sure when it's going to be released.

Here is a nice video about it.

http://www.gamesradar.com/us/videoplayer/frameindex.jsp?gameReleaseId=20070105111951637017&videoId=20070119125630710044

Actually, if you are a graphics whore and have both systems, I'd recommend simply waiting for the PS3 as it will have enhanced visuals.


IGN: How different will this version be from the others? If I've played this before, is there a reason to play it again on the PS3?

Todd Howard: Our goal is always to make the game look and feel consistent across all platforms. We design the game we want to make and then make that game available on as many platforms as possible. So, it's the same base game as was released on PC/ 360. The PS3 is benefiting from us continuing to develop our core technology that drives all our Elder Scrolls games. Some of that is noticeable on the screen -- like all the new graphic shaders -- and some isn't. The best examples are those new shaders we have for how "near detail" and "far detail" blend together on the landscape. You no longer have a harsh line cutting across the two levels, they blend together seamlessly and the distant detail and land looks much nicer.

Actually, if you are a graphics whore and have both systems, I'd recommend simply waiting for the PS3 as it will have enhanced visuals.

From everything I've read the improvements are only going to be how things blend in in the distance. Its not going to make the graphics look better on say the creature you are fighting or your weapon, etc.

Are there alot of achievement points on the 360 version?

Are there alot of achievement points on the 360 version?

There are 50 possible achievements, totalling 1000 points. The 50 achievements consist of completing the main questline, the Fighter's Guild questline, the Mages Guild, the Thieves Guild, the Arena (which is a series of gladiator bouts) and the Dark Brotherhood (assassin's guild) questline.

All told you're looking at 100 hours, give or take, if you are looking to rake in all 1000 points.

To put the game in perspective....

I'm not typically an RPG person, especially Japanese RPG's, but when I was playing, I had logged around 70 hours without touching the main quest; I still hadn't finished the side quests either.

It's a game of distractions. :)

I still think my plan is to wait for the GOTY edition. Knock down the price and whatnot. I'm really cheap, and still have lots of games to finish as of right now.

Just got this game last weekend. Can't. Stop. Playing.

There is a new xbox version coming with all the downloadable content already on them its a special edition, with everything the ps3 has. this was announced a couple months ago, its supposed to come out a little after the ps3 one

Just got this game last weekend. Can't. Stop. Playing.

lol! Fortunately for me, when I got Oblivion, I was off for the next week. There went that week.....!

Oblivion owned my ass for longer than any game should. I think I logged about 130 hours or so, and I still haven't played any of the expansion content, though I have downloaded Knights of the Nine and Mehrune's Razor now. It's an amazing game and a reason to own the 360 by itself. The depth, graphics, interactive world, etc., will ruin you for many other games. While I love shooters like Gears, I have to say that I always want to interact with stuff in other games more than they allow, and I attribute that to games like Oblivion (and Morrowind, Deus Ex, System Shock 2, etc.).

Get the game for the 360. You won't regret it.

I just found the coll ed. of Oblivion at BB for $33. Not too bad since I traded in my orig copy for $35.

All told you're looking at 100 hours, give or take, if you are looking to rake in all 1000 points.
I got to 1000 points in less than 60 hours.

I got to 1000 points in less than 60 hours.

Obviously there will be some variance. I'm not saying it will take exactly 100 hours for every player every time. My estimate was based on casual exploration combined with a determined effort to actually achieve all 50 tasks. Of course I realize it can be done in less than 100 hours.

A fine wine should be savored, not guzzled.

I didn't plan to "beat" the game, I planned to "enjoy" it. And I continue to achieve my goal. I guess that's why I'm still only at 770/1000.

Good appraoch. I kind of rushed the end because a bunch of people on my friend's list had completed the game. Now I could care less about achievements. And my friend's list for that matter.

I only have 2 achievments left, both involve beating the main quest, which I'm not ready to do. I have a whole bunch of hours (about 500 i think) and majority is just me screwing around. It's a great game for screwing around.

I just found the coll ed. of Oblivion at BB for $33. Not too bad since I traded in my orig copy for $35.

Is this at all BB's? If not, anyone know where the cheapest place is to pick this up. I'm gonna retire madden until next season and a game like this looks like a challenge. I don't think I can fork over 60 bucks though.

I exchanged an unopened copy of Hitman: Blood Money for Oblivion yesterday. Have started working through the intro dungeon. I can tell this game is going to be very involved. Any good guides out there, especially for character creation? Seems like that is a huge deal.

I exchanged an unopened copy of Hitman: Blood Money for Oblivion yesterday. Have started working through the intro dungeon. I can tell this game is going to be very involved. Any good guides out there, especially for character creation? Seems like that is a huge deal.
The official game guide is available from Amazon $13.59 - it is excellent! - http://www.amazon.com/Elder-Scrolls-IV-Oblivion-Expanded/dp/076155548X/sr=1-1/qid=1169926847/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-5238636-4092932?ie=UTF8&s=books

Make sure you get the one that is updated for Knights of the Nine

The guide is very helpful, but its character creation section seems a little confusing to me. I've played Morrowind so i know how to make my character and didn't try to read to in depth about creation. Character screation is very very important, no so much to look of your character, but the skills you choose. Though you should create a chracter whose looks you can hadle playing with for a while. I would gladly run you through character creation. I have nothing better to do and love discussing this game.

I read an online guide about character creation which was helpful. I think it was written for the PC and one thing seems off to me. It suggested Athleticism as a good major skill, but after playing for a bit this afternoon I wonder if that is true. It seems that just in running around you would increase athleticism and not really have "control" over when you want to raise it, which might be truer with other skills. I tried to pick my major abilities on things that I could raise when I wanted, and keep my minor skills things I wanted to use more freely and wouldn't worry as much about levelling when I didn't want them to. Good choices or not? Haven't played much since leaving the sewers, so easy to go back and fix now.

Thanks for any help.

I read an online guide about character creation which was helpful. I think it was written for the PC and one thing seems off to me. It suggested Athleticism as a good major skill, but after playing for a bit this afternoon I wonder if that is true. It seems that just in running around you would increase athleticism and not really have "control" over when you want to raise it, which might be truer with other skills. I tried to pick my major abilities on things that I could raise when I wanted, and keep my minor skills things I wanted to use more freely and wouldn't worry as much about levelling when I didn't want them to. Good choices or not? Haven't played much since leaving the sewers, so easy to go back and fix now.

Thanks for any help.

Those are fine choices. I had athleticism as one of my majors, though - it's pretty tough to level up after a few times anyway so I wouldn't worry about your levelling getting out of hand with athleticism.

Just put in your major skills the ones you are least likely to use - blunt, hand to hand, mercantile, that sort of thing. But do include one or two that you expect to use, so that you at least level up some (light armor or heavy armor, for example).

The bottom line is, don't worry so much about predicting when you level up or controlling it so that you get +5 added to attribute each time. I had mostly crap skills in my major skill set and most of the time leveled up with +3 and +2 in attributes, with the occassional +5, and I did just fine. I finished the game at 85 hours and at level 23 and I'm well ahead of any monsters or enemies in the game. So believe me you don't need to freak out about leveling or waste time making sure you do it just right.

Honestly, the most important thing I found that helped me out as far as being a dominating character was enchanting the crap out of my armor (giving me "constant effect" bonuses).

what a lame question; don't wait for the bloody ps3

Oblivion is a great game but it has some glitches and every once in a while it will "hick-up" and the screen will freese for a second and sometimes the music will stop for just a second as well

there have been some patches for this game via XBL but not every problem has been fixed

if there is no problems with this no the PS3 then I think it would be worth it to get the PS3 just for that game and MGS4 as well

I bought the PS2 just for MGS2 and GT4

I also bought the 360 just for Oblivion and HALO 3 of corse when it comes out

Gawd, I want to play this game so bad!!! But as a Casual Gamer, I just can't get involved knowing I will never come close to finishing it.

However, 100 hours is doable if that is true!?!? But 300-500, nope!

Gawd, I want to play this game so bad!!! But as a Casual Gamer, I just can't get involved knowing I will never come close to finishing it.

However, 100 hours is doable if that is true!?!? But 300-500, nope!
The game is "finished" when you decide it is finished. It's free-form, so you get to make the choice.

I guess technically, you could say it's "finished" when every main and side-quest is done, but even then, you won't have explored all the nuances of of spell-making and usage, all the alchemical tricks, and discovered all the wierd events of the game.

If you think that it's not a good idea to buy it because it has too much content, then find a lesser game.

PS Nothing says that the game is "over" in a month, a quarter, or even two years. Play until you get bored and come back later. Much later if that is better.

My character:

Redguard
Atronach birthsign (which is occasionally a pain in the ass, but comes in handy against magic users. A small part of me still smirks when someone hits me with a magic attack and it refills my gauge. Thanx! :D )

Blade
Acrobatics
Heavy armor
Alteration
Armorer
Security
......and something else I can't remember offhand.


As you play through the game you start realizing what you'll do different next time. My next character will have restoration as a skill instead of security (as alteration opens locks anyway) light armor, maybe play with Breton mage traits.


You can play the game anyway you choose, as long as you like, anyhow that you like. It has depth, humor, variety....and in HDTV it looks spectacular. Prepare the get your ears pinned back the first time you step outside.

Getting Oblivion is a no-brainer IMO. Go forth and enjoy.

I'm going to buy this the second someone tells me where I can get a deal on it. I'm waiting for it to be $39.99 again.

Your major skills don't even have to be remotely significant to your character. You could a Rambo-style Nord who runs into combat with a battle axe and have things like security and sneak as major skills. My major skills that got me to level 45 are:

1. Athletics - this is not such a great one in all honesty unless you do what i did. When i didn't feel like playing anymore, I'd find a wall or pool of water with a wall, put a rubberband around the joystick so i was constantly running/ swimming (swimming is better than running btw) into the wall, leave, return several hours later and i had more levels, cheap but effective

2. security - way easy to level up. any character will want to open chests and what not to get the goodies inside, and unless you got a spell, your using lockpicks. Especially early in the game, when your desperate for money to buy potions/weapons/armor, you'll be robbing people up the wazoo which entails picking locks.

3. Sneak- like security, you'll be robbing people, and you don't want to stomp about another person's house while you rob it, also important while dungeon digging.

4. Blade - I simply use blade, you could substitute this for blunt if you wish. I don't recomend hand-to-hand, as I find the damage isn't satisfactory enough for me, but to each his own. As you fight, this'll increase, pretty basic.

5. Light Armor - you could have heavy armor, same thing goes. As you get hit while wearing your choice of armor, this skill increases.

6. Mercantile - Colosal mistake on my part. DO NOT choose this skill, i'm still leveling it up. All it entails is selling stuff but it can still take a while. I'll tell at the bottom some other very good skills for chracters that i sadly did not choose.

7. Marksman - okay, this could be different for you. This and mercantile are the only skills im still leveling, the other majors are 100. It can take a while or not depending on how often you use a bow. I didn't at first, I'm paying for it now, you decide.

Those 7 skills helped my character. Now I'm a stealth specialized wood elf, you might not be. However, once again, your class doesn't have to determine your skills. I would also recomend skills like armorer- this skill is important to keeping your gear working at its prime. especially handy when reparing magic armor, very good benefits. Also Alchemy is good - when your a low level, a good way to make money is to steal food (apples bread etc) and turn it into potions, you get a lot more money, and can level up several times when you steal a lot of food, a great way to increase levels. Also good is some kind of magic, I prefer Conjuration - this conjurs beasts/amor/weapon to help you and levels up very fast. I think it's the only magic skill i have at level 100 at the time, not even resoration is there yet. Any magic is good, they all level fast at the low levels, but take longer up the road, conjuration is the one that i found the fastest.

If i had a chance to make another character with the easiest skills to level up (i can make a new character, i'm simply too lazy) the skills would be : Alchemy, Amorer, Conjuration, Sneak, Security, Balde, and Athletics.

If you want a game guide, I wouldn't waste any money on buying one. Just go to www.uesp.net. That will tell you everything (including character creation) that you'd ever want to know. And then some.

i dont know. Whenever i use an online giude, i always wind up running back and forth between xbox and computer. Once you get stuck you suddenly swallow your pride and look up the solution online, then you feel stupid for not seeing the answer. After that you suddenly feel like you should know if theres something else coming up you ought to be prepared for and run back and forth. Oblivion is a game that would likely prove this, seeing as its so huge, so having a guide in your lap might be preferable. At least i always run back and forth. I think the guide is worth buying. But you can decide

I *just* started Oblivion last night. So far I have 4 hrs into it.

I've put off playing this cause I knew how much of a 'Time Suck' it would be.
But now I'm in!

I *just* started Oblivion last night. So far I have 4 hrs into it.

I've put off playing this cause I knew how much of a 'Time Suck' it would be.
But now I'm in!

You're phucked.

I have around 300 hours into Oblivion over the past year.
I can honestly say this is the best RPG out there, dont wait for the PS3 version get it now.

Glad I got it. Thanks for all of the helpful hints. The UESP site is awesome. This game seems so huge, I don't know how I'll ever finish it. Several hours in and haven't even levelled yet. :eek:

You definitly should have leveled up in a couple hours. Levels pass very quickly early on in the game, I can't even remember how fast I got to level 20, it seems like it took 3 days but that can't be right. What are your major skills, they determine how fast you level, as long as they are skills you regularly use. If your not too far into the game then you still have to option of making a character with better skills.

The game only looks to be getting bigger with all the new downloads. Shivering Isles comes out soon and promises to be huge. can't wait!

Uh no. Oblivion is mostly hype and pretty landscapes. As far as a RPG it's quite broke. The skill system and level system is borked. Combat is easy, too many "I win" buttons. It has a good story and quests, but the core gameplay is just too lame IMO.

Wait for the PS3 reviews or buy it for the PC, which is the best version and cheapest.

The 360 version was very buggy too. It locked up about once an hour and I never could finish the last Oblivion gate, it crashed in about the same spot everytime. Maybe they patched it?

sounds like you have a bad scratch on the disc, or your bashing it in favor of having the OP buy the PS3 version.

I have over 80 hours logged, just finished the main quest, and not once did the game lock up on me.

No lockup problems at all, with a ton of hours put in.

You definitly should have leveled up in a couple hours. Levels pass very quickly early on in the game, I can't even remember how fast I got to level 20, it seems like it took 3 days but that can't be right. What are your major skills, they determine how fast you level, as long as they are skills you regularly use. If your not too far into the game then you still have to option of making a character with better skills.

I tried to set up my majors so I could control my levels. I haven't done much other than marvel at the size and scope of the game, which is why I haven't advanced. I'm still trying to figure out what everything means and how to do basic things in the game. I hope to start working on the main quest this weekend.

My other problem is too many games to play. :p I'm working on Gears as well as Resistance on PS3.

Tell me your major skills and ill tell you what it takes to level them and hopefully some easy ways to level them.

Tell me your major skills and ill tell you what it takes to level them and hopefully some easy ways to level them.
Blunt, Mysticism, Alteration, Marksman, Acrobatics, Heavy Armor, Speechcraft

Blunt, Mysticism, Alteration, Marksman, Acrobatics, Heavy Armor, Speechcraft

Well I'll admit those are interesting choices, or they would be for my character, they might suit yours just fine. Okay lets start:

Blunt: This is pretty easy. This goes up when you hit people/creatures, not inantimate objects. You must hit them with a blunt weapon of course, things like axes, maces, and warhammers. An easy way to level this is to find a woman, her name is Rosentia Galenus or something like that. She lives in Leyawin and doesnt leave her house so all you have to do if search leyawin for her house. You have to pick a level 4 (hard) lock to get in. inside youll find rosentia and 4 or so Everscamps. You can constantly kill the scamps and another will materialize in the dead ones place. Will take time but increase the skill

Mysticism: Straightforward, must use mysticism type spells. It doesn't matter what kind, how much magika it costs, as long as its mysticism. If your ever running anywhere instead of fast-traveling, while you walk is a great time to practice any spell to increase the level, as long as you use it like your supposed to. For instance, shooting fireballs at rocks wont make your destruction go up, so don't bother. I think mysticism has telekineses, which won't work without an object to manipulate, so don't bother casting it if theres no object, because your just wasting magika.

Alteration: Same as mysticism, use alteration type spells to increase it. If i remember, most alteration spells directly effect your character so theres no object or enemy involved in leveling it. The hard thing is actually finding spells that low levels can cast as most are geared towards higher levels.

Marksman: This one is a pain. As I've discovered, its not wise to mix two different types of weapons in your major skills, i mean you wouldn't want light AND heavy armor as major skills would you? No, you dont. it would take forever. However, you and me have made this mistake. anyway, you increase this by shooting humans/creatures with your bow and arrow. No inantimate objects again. This one isn't so easy to level, I like to go hunting when Im bored so what I do is run around the island that the imperial city is on, and use my bow to hunt stuff like deer and wolves. It's a slow process however. I suppose you could do what you do with blunt and shoot the everscamps, i don't know how effective it is, i never tried.

Acrobatics: Simple, jump a lot OR fall off high places. Both increase this level. Again, if your travling, you might as well jump AND cast spells simultaneously. A good place to fall from to increase your level is the wall that surrounds cloud ruler temple. You'll take martin there in the main quest if your not that far yet. The wall is rather high and a low level character might die but it gets the job done.

Heavy Armor: This one simple too, get hit. As you get hit by enemies, be them human or not, you'll take damage, and as long as you have heavy armor on, the skill will increase. Now you can mix light and heavy armor so that when you get hit, both increase a little but then it takes longer, just stick with heavy armor for now. An easy way to do this to find a low enemy with really bad attack, like a rat, and just sit and let it hit you. Another thing i never did but would have been effective, would be to let one everscamp constantly hit you while you pound on the other three with your weapon of choice, killing two birds with one stone.

Last is Speechcraft: I'm not gonna lie, I loathe this skill. It's my lowest one at the moment. To increase you must play the disposition mini game. To get to it, you talk to a character,press the joystick to the right so you highlight the little boxes under all the dialogue options. It will bring up a pie chart with 4 different things you do to boost their disposition. They really like one, kinda like another, don't like one much, and hate the last. Each character likes and dislikes different little pie parts. To get it started press A, suddenly yellowish pie parts fill in the empty circle. Quickly move you cursor over each option (this is the first time your allowed to see which things they like) while you watch their face. They grin for one, give a tiny smile for one, a little frown for one, and the one they hate youll be able to tell easily. Your object is to increase their attitude towards you getting the big peices of yellow pie in the two sections the person likes and smaller yellow pie parts in the two parts they hate. After you press A for one, the parts shift one spot clockwise, so this is pretty much a puzzle, you need to figure out what order will get you the greatest increase. If you take your time while looking to see what they like, their dispostion will drop. I good person to start with is a gaurd, once you get the hang of it the only way to increase it is to keep doing it. If my explanation sucks, the game will give you a better one once you activate it for the first time, if you havent already. Aside from the annoying nature of it, sppechcraft is very beneficial to getting information because you have to often raise disposition before someone will enclose information. I didnt have to because i got the guide. So there you go. Have fun.

Finished the game twice and not a single lock up.

Mine used to freeze all the time but i didn't mind. I'm a little overlycautious and saved all the time. I don't know if it'll happen anymore since i got my new xbox back from MS so we'll see.

looks like the 360 version is the better one

An update is coming to fix the draw distance issues on the 360, it will now be more like the PC version. Also, apparently the PS3 doesn't have enough RAM to run Oblivion as well as the 360.

"There's no horse armor, etc... It's a technical limitation. They just don't have enough memory to load every peice of downloadable content. They tried it, did some work arounds, but the performance isn't there. They hope to have some, but they're going to have to pick and choose [unlike the 360 version, which has tons of downloadable content, all of which can be used in the game]".




http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=140933

Alteration is one of the easier skills to level up. Buy or aquire a low powered "shield" magic and cast it as often as possible. Cast it as you walk/jump around and especially before getting into any conflict. You can also get an alteration spell to open locks, and I'd advise you to get the best spell you can afford. I got caught leveling up so fast that all the locks were suddenly average to hard, and my skills were to low to handle it.

Marksmanship is a PITA early so hold off until you get better equipment around level 10 or so. If you get a decent bow and alot of arrows, roam the countryside looking for boars, wolves and ogres/trolls. Let them chase you until you reach a good sized boulder, climb the boulder where they can't reach or follow, and its target practice time :)

Acrobatics, blunt and heavy armor are simple enough. I kinda wish you'd chosen Blade because you're going to come across better blades than blunt instuments.

If you're still early in the game, and you're a part of the fighters guild, you can get a pretty good sword at the fighter's guild in Chorrol. On the top floor where the boss has her desk is a number of swords just hanging around, including (I think) a fine silver sword that'll do you well for a while.

For Speechcraft, I've found the easiest way to increase your disposition and level up is to just concentrate on the type of dialogue the NPC's love and hate. always the smallest "pie slice" for the one they hate and always the biggest slice for the one they love. If you can't do both, smallest slice for the type they hate is preferable and the largest one you can for the one they love.

I go through those really quickly over and over until disposition is maxed. The types of dialogue they love and hate don't change from one round to the next so it's pretty easy once you get the hang of it.

Last is Speechcraft: I'm not gonna lie, I loathe this skill. It's my lowest one at the moment. To increase you must play the disposition mini game. To get to it, you talk to a character,press the joystick to the right so you highlight the little boxes under all the dialogue options. It will bring up a pie chart with 4 different things you do to boost their disposition. They really like one, kinda like another, don't like one much, and hate the last. Each character likes and dislikes different little pie parts. To get it started press A, suddenly yellowish pie parts fill in the empty circle. Quickly move you cursor over each option (this is the first time your allowed to see which things they like) while you watch their face. They grin for one, give a tiny smile for one, a little frown for one, and the one they hate youll be able to tell easily. Your object is to increase their attitude towards you getting the big peices of yellow pie in the two sections the person likes and smaller yellow pie parts in the two parts they hate. After you press A for one, the parts shift one spot clockwise, so this is pretty much a puzzle, you need to figure out what order will get you the greatest increase. If you take your time while looking to see what they like, their dispostion will drop. I good person to start with is a gaurd, once you get the hang of it the only way to increase it is to keep doing it. If my explanation sucks, the game will give you a better one once you activate it for the first time, if you havent already. Aside from the annoying nature of it, sppechcraft is very beneficial to getting information because you have to often raise disposition before someone will enclose information. I didnt have to because i got the guide. So there you go. Have fun.

Thanks for the tips. I am still lost on this. When I try this… All I end up doing id hitting the A button as the circle goes around in a circle? I tried to only do the ones with the biggest shaded area, but then it is grayed out until I hit the other areas?? Also there is some kind of a timer in the middle. I really do not get this one at all

I've had this game for awhile but never really sat down to play it with my first character (dark Elf Spellsword). I scrapped that character and just went with a warrior. I went with an Orc and my sign is the warrior. I'm level 4 and 10.5 hours into the game so far. I have the first Oblivion gate closed and a few side quests done. Thats the one thing that gets me on this game is how quick you can get quests to go do! I have associations with the Fighters Guild, the Blades(good for heavy armor), and am a fighter in the Arena (currently a brawler). This game is just to addictive at times!

Thanks for the tips. I am still lost on this. When I try this… All I end up doing id hitting the A button as the circle goes around in a circle? I tried to only do the ones with the biggest shaded area, but then it is grayed out until I hit the other areas?? Also there is some kind of a timer in the middle. I really do not get this one at all
I like the Disposition game. It's kind of crummy that it's so easily one-upped once you can make a 100-pt, 1-second charm spell once you get into the Arcane University.

For the Disposition game, you have four pie pieces of different sizes, four different actions (Brag, Joke, Flatter, and Coerce). Each NPC has one of the actions that they like a lot, one action that they despise, one action that they kind of like, and one action that they kind of don't. In the center is their disposition towards you currently, which goes down as you lollygag playing the Disposition game.

Think of the pie pieces as conversational effort. So an empty pie piece on the joke is a knock-knock joke. A full pie piece is a 20-minute joke that involves all sorts of funny details. If the person you're talking to likes jokes, the more effort you put into joke telling, the more they're going to like you. And conversely, if they don't like jokes, the longer one you tell the more irritated at you they're going to be.

Things change a little bit once you raise your Speechcraft over 25, but fundamentally how it works is you highlight one of the actions (with a big piece if they like it or a small piece if they don't... you can tell by their face which one it is), and hit A. That will trigger the speech action.

Now the pie pieces will make one turn clockwise. Click on another action (but you can't redo any particular action in the course of one game). It will turn again. Click on a third action. It will turn. Click on the last, remaining action. You're done.

If you've managed to click on big pie pieces when they were over things the NPC liked and little (or empty) pie pieces when they were over things that they didn't, you'll manage to make them like you more. After you do it once or twice, you'll get the hang of it and figure out how to plan it to get the maximum benefit.

Have fun.

That's just talk!

I kinda wish you'd chosen Blade because you're going to come across better blades than blunt instuments.

If you're still early in the game, and you're a part of the fighters guild, you can get a pretty good sword at the fighter's guild in Chorrol. On the top floor where the boss has her desk is a number of swords just hanging around, including (I think) a fine silver sword that'll do you well for a while.

Any first level character can get one of the best blunt items in the game, from the beginning. Go to Imperial City and talk to the shop keepers in the market place and get the quest from the Merchants about unfriendly competition. This quest is easy, requires almost no fighting and you only have to open two average locks (you should have enough lock picks from the prison to do this, or go buy some). At the end of the quest you will be in a large room (you have to kill two leveled people so it will be really easy at first level). This large room has a bunch of sarcophagus (sp?). The one on the left has a mace tucked behind it (jump up to see it). Grab it (you can jump then hit the button to take it). Its not stealing. The mace is incredible. It comes as default, so even first level characters can use it, with 31 damage!!!!! plus fire damage, and I believe one other power, and I believe over 2,000 charges, or something really high (its been awhile). You will not find an item that good in the game for a LONG time, even past level 20 or so, unless you make it yourself.

So if you choose blunt, grab it and have fun!!!!

Any first level character can get one of the best blunt items in the game, from the beginning. Go to Imperial City and talk to the shop keepers in the market place and get the quest from the Merchants about unfriendly competition. This quest is easy, requires almost no fighting and you only have to open two average locks (you should have enough lock picks from the prison to do this, or go buy some). At the end of the quest you will be in a large room (you have to kill two leveled people so it will be really easy at first level). This large room has a bunch of sarcophagus (sp?). The one on the left has a mace tucked behind it (jump up to see it). Grab it (you can jump then hit the button to take it). Its not stealing. The mace is incredible. It comes as default, so even first level characters can use it, with 31 damage!!!!! plus fire damage, and I believe one other power, and I believe over 2,000 charges, or something really high (its been awhile). You will not find an item that good in the game for a LONG time, even past level 20 or so, unless you make it yourself.

So if you choose blunt, grab it and have fun!!!!

Aww man, I'm at level 30 and just did that particular quest last night! Didn't even see that mace. :( I'll go back tonight and look for it.

I kinda wish you'd chosen Blade because you're going to come across better blades than blunt instuments.

That was kinda the whole point in selecting blunt. I thought I would use blade more, so I specifically made it a minor skill. When I want to level up, I'll use my blunt weapons.

Thanks for the tips on the other stuff. Most of my problem in trying to level up has really been my playing time. I've been trying to finish up R:FoM. :D

Any first level character can get one of the best blunt items in the game, from the beginning. Go to Imperial City and talk to the shop keepers in the market place and get the quest from the Merchants about unfriendly competition. This quest is easy, requires almost no fighting and you only have to open two average locks (you should have enough lock picks from the prison to do this, or go buy some). At the end of the quest you will be in a large room (you have to kill two leveled people so it will be really easy at first level). This large room has a bunch of sarcophagus (sp?). The one on the left has a mace tucked behind it (jump up to see it). Grab it (you can jump then hit the button to take it). Its not stealing. The mace is incredible. It comes as default, so even first level characters can use it, with 31 damage!!!!! plus fire damage, and I believe one other power, and I believe over 2,000 charges, or something really high (its been awhile). You will not find an item that good in the game for a LONG time, even past level 20 or so, unless you make it yourself.

So if you choose blunt, grab it and have fun!!!!
Great post and that mace is awesome. It had around 6,000 plus charges, but only around 60 uses. What happens after 60 uses? can you recharge it or anything and if so how much will it cost to recharge it? That same quest gives you a decent short sword. I wish I could get the value of those weapons and get some more gold in this game going.

PS3 version is shaping up to be inferior, they can't even get the horse armor to work because of RAM limitations. Bethesda is just doing a lazy port.

Great post and that mace is awesome. It had around 6,000 plus charges, but only around 60 uses. What happens after 60 uses? can you recharge it or anything and if so how much will it cost to recharge it? That same quest gives you a decent short sword. I wish I could get the value of those weapons and get some more gold in this game going.

It is rechargable. You can pay to have it recharged, or use your soul gems you find to recharge your items.

Went back and found that mace...it rocks! :)


Unfortunately I've had to murder a few people since then, the Vampire hunters who wouldn't take the hint to get outta town. Two I did myself, the third I lead a bandit into their path and then led the bandit to the local authorities. That was fun.

Went back and found that mace...it rocks! :)

Glad to help!

C'mon CC or BB run a phuckn sale on this. I'm ready to pick this up but I'm not paying 59.99 for it. Any other time this would be on sale every week.

Word on the street is that the improved shaders are coming to the 360 and it is verified around 7:40 here:

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/8905

I had no clue that mace existed, i figured the guide would have mentioned it. The only other mace that ive found to be pretty powerful is hatreds heart, a mace only avaliable in the chorrol oblivion world inside of the tower sinking into the lava.

and by the way, the mace in the mausaleom doesn't do 31 damage, it weighs 31 pounds, theres a difference.so all in all, the mace, which absorbs 5 strength, blunt skill, and does frost damage, does normal damage that increases as your blunt skill does. you really got my hopes up when you said it did 31 damage, that would have amazing, not much can do that much damage. my blunts in the 60's and it only does 14 damage so its good, but it's not great.

Word on the street is that the improved shaders are coming to the 360 and it is verified around 7:40 here:

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/8905


that is VERY cool! I cant wait for that!
and, another nail in the coffin for the ps3 :)

I had no clue that mace existed, i figured the guide would have mentioned it. The only other mace that ive found to be pretty powerful is hatreds heart, a mace only avaliable in the chorrol oblivion world inside of the tower sinking into the lava.

and by the way, the mace in the mausaleom doesn't do 31 damage, it weighs 31 pounds, theres a difference.so all in all, the mace, which absorbs 5 strength, blunt skill, and does frost damage, does normal damage that increases as your blunt skill does. you really got my hopes up when you said it did 31 damage, that would have amazing, not much can do that much damage. my blunts in the 60's and it only does 14 damage so its good, but it's not great.
How can you see what kind of damage you are dealing? I didn't think there are any options to show how many HP you are taking off when you hit someone. Although I don't even know if I have read the directions for this games since most of them have in game tutorials. ;)

I had no clue that mace existed, i figured the guide would have mentioned it. The only other mace that ive found to be pretty powerful is hatreds heart, a mace only avaliable in the chorrol oblivion world inside of the tower sinking into the lava.

and by the way, the mace in the mausaleom doesn't do 31 damage, it weighs 31 pounds, theres a difference.so all in all, the mace, which absorbs 5 strength, blunt skill, and does frost damage, does normal damage that increases as your blunt skill does. you really got my hopes up when you said it did 31 damage, that would have amazing, not much can do that much damage. my blunts in the 60's and it only does 14 damage so its good, but it's not great.

Oops, sorry, dislexic and all. :D Still, one of the best maces in the game, seeing as how you can get it at level 1 instead of having to initiate the whole allies for bruma quest line to get the gates to open up and get hatreds heart (which is sweet).

i admit that it would be good for a level one, not so amazing when your level 45....
you can tell how much damage it does by looking at it in your inventory. It's not like morrowind where it can do ranged amount for chop and a different ranged amount for slash, no its one ammount, determined by its condition and your level. When you open your inventory to weapons youll see 4 comlumns to the right. At the top of the left most column is a gold coin, this shows how much money you could get for it should you sell it ( though no merchant will ever give you full value). the second has a feather (i know it doesn't exactly look like on but its a feather) and it shows how much it weighs. The next column has a dagger and indicates the damage. The weapon ive seen that does the most base damage is umbra so far. it does about 33 with 125 health and 100 blade skill. The last column shows the health of the item which could range from 0-100 (0-125 if armorer is expert i think) . I might have mixed up the order of the columns but just remember the symbol, it's easy.