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moman19
01-19-12, 02:35 PM
I have ATT DSL and gave up on their DNS a long time ago. I have my router configured to use Google DNS and it has been fine.

Try OPEN DNS if you have kids at home. It includes an excellent filter that requires no maintenance and keeps much of the smut out of sight.

RaceTripper
01-19-12, 02:45 PM
Try OPEN DNS if you have kids at home. It includes an excellent filter that requires no maintenance and keeps much of the smut out of sight.I'm familiar with Open DNS. I used it some time ago, and it was not entirely reliable at the time. I don't have kids so the filtering is a non-issue. Google DNS has been rock solid, so that's what I continue to use.

wmschultz
01-19-12, 02:48 PM
I have ATT DSL and gave up on their DNS a long time ago. I have my router configured to use Google DNS and it has been fine.

DNS is one of the things you can not modify with the Uverse Gateway.

I use openDNS on my clients, but the phone, has to use ATT DNS.

RaceTripper
01-19-12, 03:12 PM
DNS is one of the things you can not modify with the Uverse Gateway.

I use openDNS on my clients, but the phone, has to use ATT DNS.But I will be able to attach my Apple router for home networking, right??

wmschultz
01-19-12, 03:43 PM
But I will be able to attach my Apple router for home networking, right??

I don't have an Apple router, I have others, and they work.

RaceTripper
01-19-12, 03:49 PM
I don't have an Apple router, I have others, and they work.The point really was that you can attach your own, i.e. the UVerse equipment has a standard WAN port you can attach to. I use an Apple Airport Extreme with my ATT DSL service.

Looks like they are coming Tuesday. The order form asked me to pick a day of the week, so I chose the option for Saturday. Apparently they ignore that. :rolleyes:

wmschultz
01-20-12, 03:19 PM
The point really was that you can attach your own, i.e. the UVerse equipment has a standard WAN port you can attach to. I use an Apple Airport Extreme with my ATT DSL service.

Looks like they are coming Tuesday. The order form asked me to pick a day of the week, so I chose the option for Saturday. Apparently they ignore that. :rolleyes:

Yep. I have a wireless access point plugged into it and other routers. Any
client that connects to the WAP shows on the Uverse Router as a Wired connection.

I let the Uverse Router serve the DHCP though.

RaceTripper
01-20-12, 05:39 PM
Yep. I have a wireless access point plugged into it and other routers. Any
client that connects to the WAP shows on the Uverse Router as a Wired connection.

I let the Uverse Router serve the DHCP though.Thanks for confirming.

Robert Simandl
01-22-12, 09:04 AM
How come Fox News Sunday on KTVI is a 480i 4x3 letterboxed upconvert??????

moman19
01-22-12, 09:47 AM
How come Fox News Sunday on KTVI is a 480i 4x3 letterboxed upconvert??????

The show started a half hour sooner than usual. Could it be they are so cheap that they had to record the east coast feed at 8am but could not come up with an HD DVR for the delay?

Robert Simandl
01-22-12, 10:02 AM
I think I'll just record the repeat on Fox News Channel this afternoon and watch that when I get home from work.

avanhorn
01-24-12, 04:30 PM
I'm considering getting an antenna to try to receive St. Louis stations.
Any suggestions for me? www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d67d98af17d2833

Also, does anyone know of anyone willing to install an antenna in the Warrenton, MO area? I have a 48 ft tower standing with nothing on it.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

moman19
01-25-12, 07:38 AM
I'm considering getting an antenna to try to receive St. Louis stations.
Any suggestions for me? www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d67d98af17d2833

Also, does anyone know of anyone willing to install an antenna in the Warrenton, MO area? I have a 48 ft tower standing with nothing on it.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Good luck finding someone to climb the tower! Assuming you're mostly interested in the St. Louis stations, I would go with a high-gain, directional UHF antenna. They are all located in the same direction from your vantage point. If you want to view all the other stations around you, go with a rotor. I fear at your distance to downtown, you won't be happy with an omni directional.

RaceTripper
01-27-12, 07:22 AM
Yep. I have a wireless access point plugged into it and other routers. Any
client that connects to the WAP shows on the Uverse Router as a Wired connection.

I let the Uverse Router serve the DHCP though.I got my UVerse installed earlier this week. I connected my Apple Airport Extreme to the router in bridged mode, and that works fine so far.

I ordered the 12 Mbs service. I get 10 Mbs when measured on AT&T Speed Test website, but more like 6-8 when using DSL Reports. Uplinks are about 1.4 Mbs. That's all about twice as fast as I had with DSL Elite service. With that and 250 min/month phone service I pay $50/mon (+ whatever taxes, etc will be).

ferl
01-27-12, 08:18 AM
I got my UVerse installed earlier this week. I connected my Apple Airport Extreme to the router in bridged mode, and that works fine so far.

I ordered the 12 Mbs service. I get 10 Mbs when measured on AT&T Speed Test website, but more like 6-8 when using DSL Reports. Uplinks are about 1.4 Mbs. That's all about twice as fast as I had with DSL Elite service. With that and 250 min/month phone service I pay $50/mon (+ whatever taxes, etc will be).

How's the TV part of it?

Dan in St. Louis
01-27-12, 09:10 AM
I get 10 Mbs when measured on AT&T Speed Test website, but more like 6-8 when using DSL Reports.
Bandwidth testing depends on several factors, including the exact server chosen and general network congestion at the time of the test.

Speedtest.net lets you try different servers to find one that has the best performance for you on that day. You can then imagine that all the slower reports are due to server overload or path congestion -- the highest one represents what the limit at YOUR end of the channel might be, minimally influenced by non-local factors.

Dr. Jeff
01-28-12, 09:03 AM
hello All, I am brand new to DTV. I Tried the "box" (analog to digital converter) with an old antenna on a really old TV. Not so good luck as I had to reboot it 4 or 5 times a day. Now I have a new TV and a digital antenna (don't need the box). I Have good reception for 18 stations! I want to know is where is there a guide or menu available of the programming for broadcasts in the St. Louis area?

ProjectSHO89
01-28-12, 09:07 AM
hello All, I am brand new to DTV. I Tried the "box" (analog to digital converter) with an old antenna on a really old TV. Not so good luck as I had to reboot it 4 or 5 times a day. Now I have a new TV and a digital antenna (don't need the box). I Have good reception for 18 stations! I want to know is where is there a guide or menu available of the programming for broadcasts in the St. Louis area?

Go to Trip's website, www.rabbitears.info/market.php scroll down to market #23, click on St Louis, then click on "Expand/Contract All".

Also, try www.titantv.com for programming guides.

Jane B.
01-28-12, 09:21 AM
Go to Trip's website, www.rabbitears.info/market.php scroll down to market #23, click on St Louis, then click on "Expand/Contract All".

Also, try www.titantv.com for programming guides.

The one I have been using is http://www.tvguide.com/Listings/ will be checking out the others as well.

kugumby
02-01-12, 01:06 PM
More info on the Dish Hopper/Joey units. Pricing isn't 100% confirmed yet, but based on the link below, it appears to be headed that way. (All info below from satelliteguys.com) Speculation is that the Hoppers will "leap" into customers homes starting on Feb 29th.
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http://www.dish.com/downloads/legal/DHA_Agreement.pdf

So with Dish launching their new website today, they've also posted their latest version of their DHA Agreement and it does contain some pricing info on the the hopper and joey. But, I would like to make sure the info gets confirmed first which is why I'm putting this thread in the pub for now (Note that the thread has been moved to the public forum now). Here we go:

Monthly receiver fees:

Looks Like 1 hopper and 1 joey is included. Additional hoppers and joeys are $7/month each.

DVR Service Fee/Whole-House DVR Fee

DVR service fee is still $6/month however there is a $4/month whole-house on top of the dvr fee so the cost will total out to $10/month. (This fee will apply on account level.)

Upgrade Pricing: (I'm still not 100% sure yet if it's for existing customers or new ones):
Looks like it'll only cost $99 to upgrade. If you subscribe to AT 200, AT 250, America's Everything Pak, LatinoDos, or LatinoMax, the upgrade will be FREE.

Joseph Clark
02-01-12, 05:00 PM
That's a no-brainer upgrade if it's for regular Dish customers, especially if the material on external hard drives can be used with the Hopper. I'd also want to know if I could still use my Dish 211. That's been specially modified so that I can record Dish programs to my computer. (Totally legit mod, BTW.)

kugumby
02-01-12, 10:09 PM
From what I've read, the external hard drive will work with the Hopper. I'm also pretty sure that you can't have any non-Hopper equipment with the Hopper system.

Joseph Clark
02-01-12, 10:33 PM
I suspected as much. I'll verify, but for now anyway, my modded Dish 211 is too valuable to give up, even for a device that looks as cool as the Hopper.

Robert Simandl
02-05-12, 09:40 PM
For the second week in a row, Fox News Sunday on KTVI was a 4x3 letterboxed upconvert this morning. What's up with this?

moman19
02-06-12, 08:13 AM
For the second week in a row, Fox News Sunday on KTVI was a 4x3 letterboxed upconvert this morning. What's up with this?

Local station ineptness. What else could it be? The is the same station that had three (count 'em---THREE) video bugs simultaneously superimposed on the screen during last Friday's Fringe episode. One was at the bottom while two others were in the lower right corner.

I think I knew I was tuned to "KTVI ST. LOUIS". But if I wasn't sure, all I had to do was focus my eyes on the bottom of the screen, where this essential info was displayed for almost the full hour-----except during commercials, of course.

Robert Simandl
02-06-12, 08:36 AM
That "KTVI ST. LOUIS" bug was there through most of Fox News Sunday, too.

KTVI seems to be forgetting that the days when they could get away with stupidity like this are over.

If the SD upconvert thing happens again next week (which would be the third time in a row), I'm going to cancel my weekly recording from KTVI and start recording one of the repeats later in the day on Fox News Channel.

Waldamos
02-07-12, 03:16 PM
Hi all. Just registered and have decided to drop cable. I am looking for an antenna but am so lost as to what would serve me best.

Upon entering my address (Troy, IL) at AntennaWeb I can see the channels I am interested in are the Yellow UHF (FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC) and if possible the one Green UHF (PBS for my kid). I want to put the antenna in my attic. The furthest station (PBS) is 33 miles away. Can someone suggest a good antenna for me? Thanks so much.

Ninja edit: All the stations are between 238 and 247 degrees to me, the closest being 26 miles. I live in an established neighborhood with tall trees but none in my yard or the immediate neighbors. Also, I have a single story house, relatively flat neighborhood, and the antenna will be roughly 12 to 13 foot off the ground. I would like to get by with something around 35 to 50 bucks.

ADTech
02-07-12, 03:26 PM
A "medium-range" directional or multi-directional UHF antenna should get you all the St Louis stations. Suggestions would include either a 4-bay bowtie or a modest UHF Yagi.

JDKH
02-07-12, 05:11 PM
I also live in Troy,IL and receive all the STL stations with the type of antennas that are mentioned.

Waldamos
02-08-12, 10:23 AM
I was kind of hoping for some examples and model numbers.

Also, is an antenna and some coaxial cable the only thing I need? My TV has an HD Tuner, so I assume I plug a coaxial from the antenna into my TV and presto?

Saluki
02-08-12, 01:50 PM
I was kind of hoping for some examples and model numbers.

Also, is an antenna and some coaxial cable the only thing I need? My TV has an HD Tuner, so I assume I plug a coaxial from the antenna into my TV and presto?

Have you tried Antennas Direct? (http://www.antennasdirect.com)

St. Louis-based company that can help you out, I'm sure.

Waldamos
02-08-12, 02:49 PM
I think I will take a trip into the local Radioshack to check out their U4000.

wedweb
02-09-12, 12:01 AM
I'm in Troy, IL also....yes, not kidding and I use rabbit ears set into a painted 2x6 square with a hole in it. I have Charter Basic/Extended with no box and get the local channels for free in HD. Use the ears for when Charter drops out. I also built an antennae for digital signals. There are plans and videos all over the internet. Fractal antennae.

One like I made, it works ok....haven't played around with it too much.

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-a-fractal-antenna-for-HDTV-DTV-plus-/

Bo

awh
02-12-12, 03:05 AM
Has anyone else noticed on the LiveWellNetwork (4.2) just about every local commercial spot gets started about 3-seconds too soon? Can't they fix that? It's annoying how there's an abrupt end to the show each time a local commercial break occurs.

Robert Simandl
02-12-12, 08:03 AM
And while they're at it, how about they get the aspect ratio right? The programming on that channel is obviously supposed to be 16x9, but KMOV broadcasts it at 4x3... making everyone look too tall and skinny until you play with the formatting on your TV. Then the local commercials come on, correctly formatted for 4x3 so they're stretched on your TV that you've reformatted so the program would stop looking weird.

It's been a while since I've looked at this channel, so in the unlikely event that they've fixed this, I'll do my best Emily Litella "never mind" in advance.

moman19
02-14-12, 11:34 AM
I think KMOV broadcasts a high quality HD signal on Ch 4.1. Even the audio is great and DD 5.1 very accurate. Probably the best OTA station in town. However, with that said, the slop on ch. 4.2 is atrocious and rivals Rev. Larry for it's poor quality. I cannot imagine how they can let it go over the air in its current state. Is anybody on Memorial Drive even looking?????

I don't lose sleep over this as I never watch. However, I do find myself tuning in briefly from time to time just to see if it ever gets fixed (which has yet to occur). It causes me to pity the folks who rely solely on OTA.

ProjectSHO89
02-14-12, 04:28 PM
Since no one probably watches "DeadWell", it likely doesn't matter anyway.

For me, it's a complete waste of bandwidth. They likely had better ratings of the weather radar with the NWS radio playing in the background. At least that was useful....

jdonigan
02-16-12, 09:00 PM
I have a PAL VHS movie I'd like to copy to my computer so I can make a DVD.

Thanks!

Jane B.
02-17-12, 06:51 AM
Since no one probably watches "DeadWell", it likely doesn't matter anyway.

For me, it's a complete waste of bandwidth. They likely had better ratings of the weather radar with the NWS radio playing in the background. At least that was useful....

I have come to like several things they offer in the way of cooking and decorating shows. Also, keep in mind that when there is a conflict between something of special interest locally and on the CBS network they have been known to shift one to 4.2.

My hearing is such that radio playing in the background is useless to me!

RaceTripper
02-17-12, 07:18 AM
Huh? I'm confused:)Spammer. Already reported.

moman19
02-20-12, 09:13 AM
Is anyone having reception issues with Channel 5 OTA lately? I live in Creve Coeur with a good rooftop antenna that gives me a solid "100" on channels 2,4,9 and 30 but in the last ten days or so Channel 5 seems to vary from the 70's to upper 90's with occasion dropouts all together. I climbed up the roof and all seems fine. I doubt their megawatt transmitter is failing but I simply see nothing wrong or different on my end.

Robert Simandl
02-20-12, 09:32 AM
Only show I've watched on KSDK recently is Meet the Press, but had no issues with it yesterday morning.

moman19
02-20-12, 02:41 PM
It's very random but happens w/o warning. I fear it's on my end but I can't find anything wrong. When it occurs, the other local channels continue to boom in at 100% while channel 5 is cutting in & out.

JDKH
02-20-12, 06:14 PM
It might be multipath interference. I have that on Ch 2 once in a while.

Waldamos
02-21-12, 08:38 AM
Does the back drop of an antenna matter? I am looking at two options for my attic antenna. One is a 4 bay bowtie UHF antenna that I would attach to my chimney stack, the other is a yagi type antenna in the open area on a pole. Both are fine antennas and price isn't a major factor between the two. I think the bowtie antenna is going to be easier to install but I am worried if the brick right behind the antenna is going to do anything to the signal.

moman19
02-21-12, 09:08 AM
Does the back drop of an antenna matter? I am looking at two options for my attic antenna. One is a 4 bay bowtie UHF antenna that I would attach to my chimney stack, the other is a yagi type antenna in the open area on a pole. Both are fine antennas and price isn't a major factor between the two. I think the bowtie antenna is going to be easier to install but I am worried if the brick right behind the antenna is going to do anything to the signal.

It all depends upon where your stations are located in relation to you. The bow tie is probably rather omni-direction and makes sense if the stations are scattered about in different locations on the compass. It's also more prone to multipath. This is most likely my issue. The yagi, I believe, is much more directional and immune to multipath. But for it to work, all stations you wish to receive must lie in the same general direction.

Waldamos
02-21-12, 10:40 AM
It all depends upon where your stations are located in relation to you. The bow tie is probably rather omni-direction and makes sense if the stations are scattered about in different locations on the compass. It's also more prone to multipath. This is most likely my issue. The yagi, I believe, is much more directional and immune to multipath. But for it to work, all stations you wish to receive must lie in the same general direction.

All the stations I want are between 238 to 242 degrees from my house, well within 5 or 6 degrees of each other. I guess I will make sure the yagi can fit in my open space and get it, it seems like the better antenna.

ADTech
02-21-12, 11:06 AM
My suggestion is to use a Yagi when you can. They tend to do well at rejecting multi-path.

moman19
02-21-12, 01:56 PM
My suggestion is to use a Yagi when you can. They tend to do well at rejecting multi-path.

So which Yagi do you suggest for a Creve Coeur ranch-style house? My Winegard with the 4 bow ties isn't cutting it anymore. How much $$$?

MoInSTL
02-21-12, 02:21 PM
I live near the airport and have multi-path from the planes. I tilted my Channel Master DB2 antenna way back. Not at a 45 degree angle, but tilted pretty good. ;) It seemed to help with most stations being a few degrees from each other and IIRC 30-1 in almost the opposite direction. Placement is important. It is currently in the third (and final spot) on the roof.

Oh and FWIW, I have a Samsung DLP and just replaced the lamp and housing from Schneider's yesterday. It was 4.5 years old with many, many hours on it. I decided against going into the service menu to re-set and check the hours, but I know it had a lot. It's like having a new TV again. But alas, Doug's calibration is gone. The difference in just looking at the the old bulb and new one before I installed it was striking. I took my old one with me and they pointed out a small bulge near the stem. It was also darkening. Thankfully, the price of the lamps has gone down considerably. I replaced it with a genuine Sammy lamp and could have saved some money online, but I could return it hassle free if it didn't work and walked out with what I knew would fit. I just hope everything else holds up.

EDIT: Don't forget to ground the antenna you install.

kugumby
02-22-12, 01:48 PM
Mo's experience made me think of how I did this wrong where she did it right. Perhaps you can learn from my mistake.

Only buy original equipment (lamp with the housing included) for your display. A few years ago, I bought a lamp that was the "same" lamp that is used for my display and saved about $150 by purchasing just the lamp and then re-using the housing from the previous lamp. I had no problems installing it and it looked great for the first month or so, but as time wore on, the lamp was frying my light engine because it was producing more heat than the OEM lamp. The light engine had to be replaced and I had to buy a new lamp again.

Others may have had better experience, but I won't purchase another aftermarket lamp. From now on it's OEM only.

RaceTripper
02-22-12, 02:58 PM
I'm glad I don't have to deal with the DLP lamps anymore. I've had a LED Sammy DLP for 3+ years now, and it seems just as bright as new.

I never did swing for a calibration though. I have other priorities these days for that amount of money (i.e. two-channel analog audio).

ADTech
02-22-12, 06:36 PM
So which Yagi do you suggest for a Creve Coeur ranch-style house? My Winegard with the 4 bow ties isn't cutting it anymore. How much $$$?

In St Louis, our broadcast towers are generally stung along Teson Ferry from the St Louis city limits all the way out to northern Jefferson county and will, from CC, form an arc of close to 60°.

A location as close-in as CC often needs the broader beamwidth of a bowtie or a loop antenna unless multi-path becomes the limiting issue.

A Yagi is best suited towards those locations where signals are closely grouped together or when you need to use the Yagi's narrow beamwidth to fight multi-path, often with the aid of a rotor.

Our C2 antennas often work pretty well, but each location really needs to be tried out to see how it goes.

moman19
02-23-12, 07:32 AM
In St Louis, our broadcast towers are generally stung along Teson Ferry from the St Louis city limits all the way out to northern Jefferson county and will, from CC, form an arc of close to 60°.

A location as close-in as CC often needs the broader beamwidth of a bowtie or a loop antenna unless multi-path becomes the limiting issue.

A Yagi is best suited towards those locations where signals are closely grouped together or when you need to use the Yagi's narrow beamwidth to fight multi-path, often with the aid of a rotor.

Our C2 antennas often work pretty well, but each location really needs to be tried out to see how it goes.

That's exactly why I purchased the Bow Tie. But multipath appears to be killing any reliability. That arc gets much more narrow to about 30 degrees when my only mission is to have reliable reception on 2,4,5,9,11 & 30. Is there any way one could "test drive" a yagi?

MoInSTL
02-23-12, 12:12 PM
Mo's experience made me think of how I did this wrong where she did it right. Perhaps you can learn from my mistake.

Only buy original equipment (lamp with the housing included) for your display. A few years ago, I bought a lamp that was the "same" lamp that is used for my display and saved about $150 by purchasing just the lamp and then re-using the housing from the previous lamp. I had no problems installing it and it looked great for the first month or so, but as time wore on, the lamp was frying my light engine because it was producing more heat than the OEM lamp. The light engine had to be replaced and I had to buy a new lamp again.

Others may have had better experience, but I won't purchase another aftermarket lamp. From now on it's OEM only.

Whoa. The light engine? I thought it would fry the ballast. Is the ballast and LE connected? The lamp prices (with the housing) have dropped dramatically to what you though you saved, plus tax. EDIT: The price locally versus online. Believe it or not, some lamps are counterfeit ones.

RaceTripper,
Back when I bought this DLP I had 3 choices: A pricier hot plasma that would leave burn-in from games, a LCD with motion blurring in fast action scenes and poor blacks or a DLP. I realize technology has changed and I like my 32" Sony Bravia LCD in my bedroom. I *really* like my Sammy 50" DLP all over again. It's like a new set. I'm just crossing my fingers that nothing breaks down.

RaceTripper
02-23-12, 12:22 PM
RaceTripper,
Back when I bought this DLP I had 3 choices: A pricier hot plasma that would leave burn-in from games, a LCD with motion blurring in fast action scenes and poor blacks or a DLP. I realize technology has changed and I like my 32" Sony Bravia LCD in my bedroom. I *really* like my Sammy 50" DLP all over again. It's like a new set. I'm just crossing my fingers that nothing breaks down.
Believe me, I will be depressed the day my DLP quits working and I have to replace it. Mine is a the HL67A750, which has been fantastic, and I just don't like the current choices for that size, technology-wise and price-wise.

MoInSTL
02-23-12, 12:27 PM
Believe me, I will be depressed the day my DLP quits working and I have to replace it. Mine is a the HL67A750, which has been fantastic, and I just don't like the current choices for that size, technology-wise and price-wise.

I just browsed the Crutchfield (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-VknKMk3OMwa/p_30567A750/Samsung-HL67A750.html) description. That looks like a really nice set and no flipping color wheel and big. I bet it's gorgeous. Mine is old by comparison. I got it in January of 2006. But it's the correct size for the short side of the living room.

Joseph Clark
02-23-12, 12:35 PM
Believe me, I will be depressed the day my DLP quits working and I have to replace it. Mine is a the HL67A750, which has been fantastic, and I just don't like the current choices for that size, technology-wise and price-wise.

I keep hoping they'll release a 3D front projector with LED lighting instead of a lamp. Lamps are a royal pain. Of course, they have front projectors with LED illumination, but hopefully they'll make them bright enough to light up a bigger screen.

kugumby
02-23-12, 05:21 PM
Whoa. The light engine? I thought it would fry the ballast. Is the ballast and LE connected?.

I'm not sure if they're connected. The guy that repaired it said they had to replace the light engine but didn't mention the ballast. It's a 62" Philips LCoS. I still like it, but I am waiting for it to die so I have an excuse to get a projector since I built a dedicated room :-) (Although I really should wait for the 3d projectors to mature a bit. 3d isn't the main reason I built the room, but I would like to have the ability.)

A quick check on the Philips website has the lamp and housing still going for $280, so still not exactly cheap. I will check Schneider's if/when I decide to replace the lamp that is in it now.

RaceTripper
02-23-12, 05:34 PM
I keep hoping they'll release a 3D front projector with LED lighting instead of a lamp. Lamps are a royal pain. Of course, they have front projectors with LED illumination, but hopefully they'll make them bright enough to light up a bigger screen.To be honest, I haven't been into home theater that much lately, and haven't sat down to watch a movie in ages. I completely revamped my music listening system last year (mostly vinyl) and that is really more of where my soul is anyway, so I spend most of my free time with that.

Dan in St. Louis
02-24-12, 09:53 AM
I completely revamped my music listening system last year (mostly vinyl)
Wouldn't happen to know where I could find a nice used Dual 1219 turntable for a client, would you?

RaceTripper
02-24-12, 10:10 AM
Wouldn't happen to know where I could find a nice used Dual 1219 turntable for a client, would you?I'm afraid not. I bought a new Rega RP3/TTPSU.

You might try Audiogon, although they really screwed up the site since last month, and I haven't seen near the level of traffic as previously. I've been looking for a new preamp & PSU and I just haven't seen new ads for what I want like I did in the past.

Ken H
02-24-12, 12:43 PM
Please keep on topic.

MoInSTL
02-24-12, 01:41 PM
A quick check on the Philips website has the lamp and housing still going for

Sent PM.

wedweb
02-24-12, 07:40 PM
Wouldn't happen to know where I could find a nice used Dual 1219 turntable for a client, would you?

Check with the Audiocircle local circle GAS ~ Gateway Audio Society

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?board=70.0

Dan in St. Louis
02-25-12, 09:19 AM
Please keep on topic.
Well, we could do that and face periods of three or four days with no messages (like earlier this month), but that would be three or four days when your advertisers would get no eyeballs.

Sometimes a little thread drift keeps forums alive.

moman19
02-25-12, 10:22 AM
I can see both sides of this argument. But an occasional drift is not too bad as long as we don't stray into health issues or auto repair. Give the mod a break. That's probably his primary intent anyway.

Kurt K
02-25-12, 10:52 PM
I guess D* receivers were recently updated to automatically shutdown if not in use for 4 hours. Another thing I noticed with my receiver is that the light that indicates a program is recording no longer lights. Anybody else have this problem, or is this isolated to my receiver?

RaceTripper
02-25-12, 10:57 PM
I guess D* receivers were recently updated to automatically shutdown if not in use for 4 hours. Another thing I noticed with my receiver is that the light that indicates a program is recording no longer lights. Anybody else have this problem, or is this isolated to my receiver?

I disabled the auto shutdown feature. I might put on news while working in my home office, and not touch the remote all day, so I don't want it turnng off after 4 hours. We don't have an issue leaving DVRs on if we aren't watching them.

Robert Simandl
02-26-12, 12:40 PM
I had no idea avsforum had an Android app. This is kinda cool (visiting my folks in Phoenix as I type this).

ferl
02-26-12, 03:18 PM
I had no idea avsforum had an Android app. This is kinda cool (visiting my folks in Phoenix as I type this).

Is the forum not accessible from Arizona without an APP? I've never found an "APP" to contribute anything to a website. All they seem to do is scale down the site to a useless mess. I use Android & IOS and do find the Android to be less restricting. I've found both useless and always opt or the desktop version.

RaceTripper
02-26-12, 03:27 PM
Is the forum not accessible from Arizona without an APP? I've never found an "APP" to contribute anything to a website. All they seem to do is scale down the site to a useless mess. I use Android & IOS and do find the Android to be less restricting. I've found both useless and always opt or the desktop version.+1

I wish my iPhone had an option, "prevent forums from nagging me to install their crappy apps." I really don't need these things littering up my phone, one for each forum I visit.

Robert Simandl
02-26-12, 03:42 PM
The forum is "accessible," but cramming the page in a web browser into a tiny cell phone window is not a pleasant experience. Granted I'd rather do this on a desktop or laptop, but I don't have either of those handy at the moment.

ferl
02-26-12, 04:08 PM
+1

I wish my iPhone had an option, "prevent forums from nagging me to install their crappy apps." I really don't need these things littering up my phone, one for each forum I visit.


Try the Dolphin browser and set it to desktop mode.

RaceTripper
02-26-12, 04:15 PM
Try the Dolphin browser and set it to desktop mode.Thanks, but I'm fine using Safari on my iPhone. I don't browse on my phone often enough to worry about installing alternate browser apps. I'd rather save the space for more music.

Kurt K
02-26-12, 05:41 PM
I disabled the auto shutdown feature. I might put on news while working in my home office, and not touch the remote all day, so I don't want it turnng off after 4 hours. We don't have an issue leaving DVRs on if we aren't watching them.

Is your record indicator still working?

RaceTripper
02-26-12, 06:04 PM
Is your record indicator still working?Yes, it seems fine, at least on the HR20 I'm looking at now.

kugumby
02-27-12, 09:36 AM
Dish has had this 'autoshutdown' feature for quite some time. It doesn't mess with your timers or really turn the unit off. The primary reason for it is to put the unit into a mode where it can accept software upgrades. It apparently can't while programming is being displayed. Dish has a menu item that allows you to change this from 2 to 4 to 8 hours.

MoInSTL
02-27-12, 01:43 PM
Just a heads up to anyone who has one of the listed sets. According to the this article (http://www.dailytech.com/Samsung+to+Pay+Millions+to+Settle+Lawsuits+Over+Mass+LCD+TV+ Failures/article24065.htm): Persistent Failures Strike Numerous Samsung TV Buyers.
Finally Samsung has agreed to offer its users some financial relief. Users who paid out-of-pocket repairs costs on certain sets prone to capacitor failures can now seek to get up to $300 USD in compensation. Even users who did not pay for repairs may be eligible to a smaller settlement.

The settlement covers various plasma, LCD and DLP models.

EDIT: Here's a link to Samsung's settlement page (http://www.samsung.com/us/capacitorsettlement/).

Waldamos
03-05-12, 10:43 AM
I recently installed a yagi type antenna rated at 45mile range (antennas are at 30 mile range from my house). I installed it in my attic and ran straight to my TV. I am having tiling issues though. It seems like the tiling is worse in the wind or rain even though my antenna is in the attic.

At one location I got 2,4,5,11,24,30 but the tiling was pretty bad, so I moved it and now the tiling is better (though not gone) but I lost 24. I have never had 9 (and would like it).

What is my problem? Do I need an amp to eliminate tiling and to get 9?

moman19
03-05-12, 12:23 PM
I recently installed a yagi type antenna rated at 45mile range (antennas are at 30 mile range from my house). I installed it in my attic and ran straight to my TV. I am having tiling issues though. It seems like the tiling is worse in the wind or rain even though my antenna is in the attic.

At one location I got 2,4,5,11,24,30 but the tiling was pretty bad, so I moved it and now the tiling is better (though not gone) but I lost 24. I have never had 9 (and would like it).

What is my problem? Do I need an amp to eliminate tiling and to get 9?

First, those mileage estimates are just that --- ESTIMATES. You may simply need a better antenna. It makes a difference if you're located up high on a hill or down low in a valley. Before you exchange the antenna for a better model, try the following:
1- Make sure it's pointed towards South County - go to antennaweb.org for exact transmitter locations
2- purchase one of those amplifiers that attach at the antenna and are powered by a splitter down by the TV.

I'm not sure what you mean by "tiling". All digital video consists of tiny (square) pixels, and this is normal when compared to old analog television. If the tiles get very large at times or during fast motion, that could be a weak signal. If the signal is really too weak, you'll also see picture freezing and possibly complete loss of the picture.

Waldamos
03-05-12, 02:56 PM
First, those mileage estimates are just that --- ESTIMATES. You may simply need a better antenna. It makes a difference if you're located up high on a hill or down low in a valley. Before you exchange the antenna for a better model, try the following:
1- Make sure it's pointed towards South County - go to antennaweb.org for exact transmitter locations
2- purchase one of those amplifiers that attach at the antenna and are powered by a splitter down by the TV.

I'm not sure what you mean by "tiling". All digital video consists of tiny (square) pixels, and this is normal when compared to old analog television. If the tiles get very large at times or during fast motion, that could be a weak signal. If the signal is really too weak, you'll also see picture freezing and possibly complete loss of the picture.

What I mean is I will get blocks about a half inch by half inch go to a solid color randomly in the picture (and there can be multiple across the entire picture), as if all those pixels were covered up by a tile. I am not on a hill, and I do have the antenna pointed in the correct direction. I think my first course of action will be to get an amp and try it, can someone suggest one?

ADTech
03-05-12, 05:23 PM
If you post an exact address TVFool report link (your address is obscured for privacy), we can evaluate your reception.

Loss of reception during bad weather is often caused by trees.

I'd suggest holding off on an amp until more data is provided. There's a lot of stuff that might be going on and an amp may or may not be useful.

FWIW, I live in a valley about 20 minutes south-west of Six Flags and am surrounded by trees. In order to get KETC and KPLR especially, I had to go with a modified (11') 91XG at 45' AGL with a pre-amp to get a station only 19 miles away with a TVFool-predicted NM of more than 20 dB! Sometimes, we have to go to great lengths to work around the limitations of our environment.

Waldamos
03-08-12, 10:22 AM
Here is my TVFool report: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d0b8688740e0686

It shows that I should be able to get the stations I want with an indoor antenna. The antenna I have says it has around 10dB something, though I can't remember what. I am quite the novice at this and the random sound loss and picture holes is really frustrating. The picture I do get is very nice quality though.

Maybe I need to try some more locations in my attic. I have it pointed towards St. Louis, but perhaps I am a couple degrees off or something. I will get a compass and make sure. But any more thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.

kugumby
03-15-12, 09:29 AM
I have a friend that is having audio issues on American Idol using U-Verse. He has a new Onkyo receiver that just had the HDMI & processing boards replaced (due to this issue) and he has it connected via HDMI and is watching the HD channel (1000 and above on U-Verse). He says that when any show is broadcast in dolby digital that the sound is fine, but when the receiver gets a DPLII flag and switches over the sound cuts out so bad that the show is unwatchable. He said when someone is talking it's fine, but as soon as the music starts, the sound starts to cut out.

Anyone have any ideas?

BTW, as of today, Dish has the Hopper/Joey receiver available for current and new subs. I just ordered mine. Typical cost for current sub is $100 per hopper and one free Joey. New subs can get a Hopper and 3 Joeys for Free with the AT200 programming package. The Hopper will cost a $6 DVR Fee, $4 Whole Home DVR Fee and each additional Joey or Hopper will cost $7/month. (These fees are for new and current subs.) You cannot keep your existing equipment with a Hopper/Joey setup.

awh
03-18-12, 05:24 PM
What's up with 16.1 (RTN)? It's been stuck on a static picture for over 2 days now... isn't anyone in the control room monitoring what's going on with their signal?!

kugumby
03-19-12, 08:10 AM
I have a friend that is having audio issues using U-Verse.

If anyone is interested or has a similar problem in the future, the U-Verse box was replaced over the weekend and that solved the problem.

Hoppers and Joey installed over the weekend. The new UI is cool and very fast.

Joseph Clark
03-19-12, 03:55 PM
If anyone is interested or has a similar problem in the future, the U-Verse box was replaced over the weekend and that solved the problem.

Hoppers and Joey installed over the weekend. The new UI is cool and very fast.

This is one very cool device. If they'd only let me use my old Dish 211 with this system, I'd have one in a heartbeat. Looking forward to hearing more about it in the coming weeks.

Trip in VA
03-19-12, 06:12 PM
What's up with 16.1 (RTN)? It's been stuck on a static picture for over 2 days now... isn't anyone in the control room monitoring what's going on with their signal?!

Is it better?

- Trip

awh
03-19-12, 09:09 PM
Is it better?

Yep. Nice moving pictures now.

Only took them 3 days to cycle the power switch on their MPEG receiver!

Trip in VA
03-19-12, 09:34 PM
We (RTV) gave them a call this morning.

- Trip

Waldamos
03-20-12, 07:32 AM
So I was out on a job for the past 2 weeks and had no time to mess with my antenna. I got back in the office today and am able to give you an update.

I borrowed a small inline amplifier from a friend and hooked it up plus I also routed my coax around my surge protector. It had been previously going through it. After a channel scan I got some new channels (9.1-9.4) but their signal is not 100%. While the picture problems are fewer I do still get occasional loss of sound and/or the picture freezing or breaking up in places.

To answer some of the questions ferl asked:
The line is 2 pieces of CAT5 Charter left me hooked together by a coupler. The total length is 25 to 30 feet.
I do a channel search after any adjustment.
I am not sure what you mean by adjusting the vertical axis. Can I move the entire antenna up or down along a pole? No, my attic is very tiny (the antenna is mere inches from the roof). Can I tilt the antenna’s nose up or down? Yes.
I do not have aluminum siding.
More information, there are large trees in my neighborhood and the signal has to shoot through them. This might be why on windy days or storms the picture problems happen much more frequently.
I have not used a good compass to orient the antenna but done a general direction towards the towers based on the satellite image and direction lines.

moman19
04-13-12, 02:26 PM
Gee..... This place has died. When there's nothing to post, there's nothing to post. Sadly, I have nothing to say other than I have nothing to say.

Dan in St. Louis
04-15-12, 10:39 AM
I am not sure what you mean by adjusting the vertical axis. Can I move the entire antenna up or down along a pole? No, my attic is very tiny (the antenna is mere inches from the roof). Can I tilt the antenna’s nose up or down? Yes.
Yes, that appears to have been the intent of the original answer. Tip the nose (end closest to the transmitter) up 10 degrees or so.

FWIW, I am using this antenna (http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?mc=03&p=C2&d=Antennas-Direct-C2-ClearStream2-Outdoor-Digital-HD-TV-Antenna-%28C2%29&c=TV%20Antennas&sku=5374800112) in my second-floor office in the Central West End. The signal has to pass through several "stately trees" of the CWE and then through a wall built in 1902 of three courses of brick. KETC, 13 miles away, is plenty strong, rated by my OnAirGT receiver as having a signal-to-noise ratio of 29dB. KNLC, 25 miles away, shows 20dB S/N and is 100% viewable with no artifacts.

tlynch5
04-22-12, 07:08 PM
I'm new to OTA after years with DirecTV only. I installed this antenna (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FVTPX2/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00) in my attic today. I have great reception on all the locals with the exception of 5 and 30. It's not even a weak signal - it's no signal.

Is there something in this equation I am missing?

If it helps - I live in Arnold and have this facing north.

guest68
04-22-12, 07:43 PM
Antenna booster(s).

I live in Washington (50 miles west of St Louis) with an old but large antenna in my brick surrounded attic and am getting GREAT reception of all channels.

I use a Radio Shack booster that has one part at the antenna, then a second part (the booster) plugged into AC before the splitter to the rest of the house in the basement. That worked ok before the change to HDTV .

I now run that booster into ANOTHER booster before it splits off to operate 4 TVs and 2 Magnavox DVR/DVD units.

HTH

ProjectSHO89
04-23-12, 06:09 AM
I'm new to OTA after years with DirecTV only. I installed this antenna (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FVTPX2/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00) in my attic today. I have great reception on all the locals with the exception of 5 and 30. It's not even a weak signal - it's no signal.

Is there something in this equation I am missing?

If it helps - I live in Arnold and have this facing north.

Try a different mounting location, preferably outside the attic. You have the antenna in a dead spot for those two stations.

ProjectSHO89
04-23-12, 06:12 AM
Antenna booster(s).

I live in Washington (50 miles west of St Louis) with an old but large antenna in my brick surrounded attic and am getting GREAT reception of all channels.

I use a Radio Shack booster that has one part at the antenna, then a second part (the booster) plugged into AC before the splitter to the rest of the house in the basement. That worked ok before the change to HDTV .

I now run that booster into ANOTHER booster before it splits off to operate 4 TVs and 2 Magnavox DVR/DVD units.

HTH

The outside unit is the amplifier, the inside is the power supply (except certain RS units have amps in both modules, it depends on what model you have).

It is rarely necessary (and usually detrimental) to chain amplifiers in a system.

guest68
04-23-12, 06:36 AM
The outside unit is the amplifier, the inside is the power supply (except certain RS units have amps in both modules, it depends on what model you have).

It is rarely necessary (and usually detrimental) to chain amplifiers in a system.

Sadly, with no second booster, absolutely NO picture. I guess it's possible the RS booster may have lost some of it's ability, it is 20 years old or older. However, the need for the 2nd booster wasn't required until my conversion to digital.

Detrimental for quality of signal (too many db?) or to the TV's?

I don't doubt that it's not recommended, but it's been working for almost 4 years.......

Dan in St. Louis
04-23-12, 07:57 PM
I'm new to OTA after years with DirecTV only. I installed this antenna (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FVTPX2/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00) in my attic today. I have great reception on all the locals with the exception of 5 and 30. It's not even a weak signal - it's no signal.

Is there something in this equation I am missing?

If it helps - I live in Arnold and have this facing north.
Those transmitters are only about ten miles from you so either the attic is a problem or you live in a deep valley. Depending on where you live in Arnold the towers are about 14 degrees east of north.

wmschultz
04-30-12, 10:18 AM
NOTICE: This domain name expired on 04/29/2012 and is pending renewal or deletion.
stlhdtv.info :(

Robert Simandl
05-03-12, 06:31 AM
From The Bridge:

Verizon Wireless's solution for nationwide broadband coverage - including rural and underserved areas - is now available throughout the country. The wireless giant announced Wednesday that its long-awaited HomeFusion Broadband offering is live and operational in 230 markets covering more than 2/3 of the U.S. population.

Originally announced late last year, HomeFusion utilizes an installed antenna at the home to receive Verizon's 4G LTE network and transmit the signal to a broadband router inside. The company says the router can connect "up to four wired and at least 20 wireless devices" using a WiFi signal. Verizon said in "real-world, fully-loaded network environments, customers should experience average data rates of 5 to 12 Mbps (down) and 2 to 5 Mbps (up)."

Compare the pricing for HomeFusion to internet service rates from cable and ISP competitors: $60/month for 10 GB, $90/month for 20 GB, or $120/month for 30 GB - with a $10 per GB after allowance charge. In addition, there is a one-time equipment fee of $200 that includes installation, Verizon said.

Those data caps are way too low to be of any use to me, but some folks here may find this news useful.

kc9hzn
05-03-12, 10:26 AM
I suspect they're getting federal funds to roll out this program, but this basic idea, but with some higher power "backbone" LTE towers, probably could provide higher speed Internet access to rural areas even without the rural broadband initiative.

moman19
05-07-12, 04:55 PM
Wireless Internet access is a shared, finite resource. Whether it's 3G (too slow) or 4G like WiMax, or LTE, excessive usage has to be either capped, throttled or priced high enough to keep the heavy bandwidth users in line. Otherwise, no one will be happy with the service. This is exactly what happened to AT&T when the iPhone got too successful. People in NYC, San Fran and other places can't even make phone calls during peak periods. Push SEND and get nothing!

In addition, Verizon's 4G LTE network is currently only found in major metro areas where users have many options (cable, DSL, FIOS) and not in most fringe places. If this new service is intended to reach folks in rural and underserved areas, they won't be pleased. The caps are too low and the speed too slow. Good luck downloading a NetFix movie or anything on the Roku.

ProjectSHO89
05-07-12, 06:06 PM
FWIW, Verizon lit up 4G out in the area from Pacific to Cedar Hill several weekends ago.

Made me happy since that's what I use. ;)

tstolze
05-07-12, 07:43 PM
FWIW, Verizon lit up 4G out in the area from Pacific to Cedar Hill several weekends ago.

Made me happy since that's what I use. ;)

And is on track to cover Verizon's entire 3G footprint by the end of next year.

moman19
05-07-12, 10:00 PM
And is on track to cover Verizon's entire 3G footprint by the end of next year.

Maybe so, but what I'm saying is don't expect unlimited, fast data speeds at a reasonable price. The real purpose for their LTE network is mobility. If it doesn't perform well on an iPhone or a Droid due to saturation---and no one saturates a high speed Internet link like landlubbers watching Netflix, downloading photos, uploading You Tube, etc.---- they have no choice but to cap usage, throttle speeds, charge for overages, or other extremes to limit abuse. If fixed users clog the network so much that mobile users can't connectr, the model gets turned on it's head. Again, it's a limited resource designed and allocated for XX smart phones. LTE is fast but only when it's not seriously oversubscribed.

Keep in mind, out in the boonies, where population is sparce, so are the towers. Instead of having a tower at every exit on the highway in the city for capacity, the towers in the burbs can be a few miles apart. Less towers = less capacity. I'll bet the whole town of Cedar Hill has less than a handful of towers with LTE. No need for more to support dumb and smart phones. What do you think will happen when half the town decides to jump onto the LTE fixed-modem solution?

Dan in St. Louis
05-22-12, 08:48 AM
Hello out there?

Two quiet weeks...................

RaceTripper
05-22-12, 08:56 AM
Hello out there?

Two quiet weeks...................
I'm back to thinking about cutting the cord and canceling D*. Still need to figure out how I'll get the stuff we care about. For me there isn't much: mostly Formula 1 racing and educational programming. Mrs. RaceTripper watches some stuff I think we can get on AppleTV. I might take some of the savings to increase our internet speed but I stand to save $50-75/mon.

hockeynut
05-23-12, 09:11 AM
I'm back to thinking about cutting the cord and canceling D*. Still need to figure out how I'll get the stuff we care about. For me there isn't much: mostly Formula 1 racing and educational programming. Mrs. RaceTripper watches some stuff I think we can get on AppleTV. I might take some of the savings to increase our internet speed but I stand to save $50-75/mon.

Do it! I just did. I got so fed up with thier slow a$$ dvrs, I couldn't take it anymore. I'm making the switch to Charter. I'm using two Tivo premiere XL boxes.Plus with Charter, I'm getting Internet with 30Mbps download speeds. I'm pretty excited.

RaceTripper
05-23-12, 09:21 AM
Do it! I just did. I got so fed up with thier slow a$$ dvrs, I couldn't take it anymore. I'm making the switch to Charter. I'm using two Tivo premiere XL boxes.Plus with Charter, I'm getting Internet with 30Mbps download speeds. I'm pretty excited.I assure you, if I drop D* I am not picking up Charter for UVerse. I see that as trading one problem for another (possibly worse). I am mostly content with the D* service and quality (although I agree two of my DVRs performance isn't very good).

I just have a hard time justifying $100/mon when all I am interested in watching is circuit racing and some stuff on Science/NatGeo/Discovery.

I'm really back to spending most of my free time with my analog two-channel music system. I bought a whole new stereo last year and started collecting vinyl again. I just don't care as much about video anymore.