Is anyone else getting TNT on both 831 and 833?

here in Concord NH the channels are mapped properly.

Is anyone else getting TNT on both 831 and 833?
It's either fixed or I was unaffected. They are correct here in Hopkinton.

Check the fine print. Verizon has been here in Burlington for a while; they strung the fiber past our home in August 2006; but yet they still cherry-picked customers within the town offering service to some and not to others.

Is it possible Burlington made a mistake by not requiring all areas to be serviced ? Sounds like Chelmsford has closed that loophole ?

-Ken

It has been a while since I looked into this, so I'm going mostly by memory. I think I remember this wording from my local agreement, but you can readily find the same wording in dozens of other Verizon FiOS franchising agreements (my understanding is that Verizon is very consistent with their wording): "...all dwelling units that are within one hundred fifty (150) feet of aerial trunk or feeder lines..."

We're actually about 80 feet, as the crow flies, but depending on how circuitous you measure the route, I suppose you could bloat that to over 120 feet. The fact, though, is that they still won't offer us service. I think that's because of another provision, allowing them up to five years to fully deploy. So that gives them until August 2011 before I can really push this issue.

There are a whole bunch of other exceptions and conditions that can be used to avoid offering service to everyone all at once. No matter what, even in Chelmsford, I bet, there will still be cherry-picking. It is the Verizon way.

Do you have the specific wording from the Chelmsford agreement that contradicts either of the provisions I mentioned above (the 150 feet or the five years)? If the Chelmsford agreement is more iron-clad than that in Burlington, then it'll be useful to bring that to the franchising authority's attention.

Do you have the specific wording from the Chelmsford agreement that contradicts either of the provisions I mentioned above (the 150 feet or the five years)? If the Chelmsford agreement is more iron-clad than that in Burlington, then it'll be useful to bring that to the franchising authority's attention.

There is no agreement yet, they are just beginning to negotiate.

-Ken

tuesday AM should see the next round of HD adds. Hope there will be a round 3.

tuesday AM should see the next round of HD adds. Hope there will be a round 3.

Does anybody know whether adding the Tennis Channel HD is considered? Directv has been carrying it for some time already. :)

I'm rather hoping for AMC HD, just (almost) in time for Mad Men.

Luckily, Mad Men will be re-broadcast all through the week.

ok... I'm watchin the Wizard of Oz on TNT hd. someone is describing what I'm watching... wtf is this? some kind of blind descriptive service? how do I turn it off?

Luckily, Mad Men will be re-broadcast all through the week.

And the whole first season's available On Demand and in HD!

ok... I'm watchin the Wizard of Oz on TNT hd. someone is describing what I'm watching... wtf is this? some kind of blind descriptive service? how do I turn it off?


main menu, setup, guide setup

main menu, setup, guide setup

cool, didn't know that was there... one minor issue however, it is already off lol

ok... I'm watchin the Wizard of Oz on TNT hd. someone is describing what I'm watching... wtf is this? some kind of blind descriptive service? how do I turn it off?

If you're watching a blind descriptive service, it must not be very good.

I was flipping through the channels yesterday and it was the same way here. The movie was playing but when there was silence, the narrator would start talking. I think TNT decided to air that version, which is just stupid.

I just received notice on my standalone TivoHD in Concord, NH that Comcast has added:
AMCHD 859
TLCHD 867

Just like last week they are not showing video yet and I get Channel not available. (They appeared the next day on Tuesday)

I just received notice on my standalone TivoHD in Concord, NH that Comcast has added:
AMCHD 859
TLCHD 867

Just like last week they are not showing video yet and I get Channel not available. (They appeared the next day on Tuesday)

My wife will be thrilled (she is a TLC junkie).

lots of audio issues for first 15 mins, also going back and forth to SD, but as of 6:45pm looks normal.

Nice picture in HD.

Anyone else having a problem with NESN HD? At least it's on ESPN HD tonight, if NESN is faltering.

Anyone else having a problem with NESN HD? At least it's on ESPN HD tonight, if NESN is faltering.

Just turned on NESN HD but it currently looks fine in Billerica.

I was just wondering if anyone else is getting this problem.

Tonight, all shows on CBS HD (channel 804 for me) have this volume problem.
During commercials, the volume levels are normal and you can hear everything. But
when the actual show comes on, the speaking is practically inaudible. If I crank the
volume to hear the speaking, then the laugh tracks are way too loud. Then when
the commercials come on it's deafening loud.

If I switch over to CBS low def (channel 4 for me), then I have no volume problems.
Also, this volume problem does not happen on any other HD channels either - it's
just CBS HD.

I was just wondering if anyone else is getting this problem.

Tonight, all shows on CBS HD (channel 804 for me) have this volume problem.
During commercials, the volume levels are normal and you can hear everything. But
when the actual show comes on, the speaking is practically inaudible. If I crank the
volume to hear the speaking, then the laugh tracks are way too loud. Then when
the commercials come on it's deafening loud.

If I switch over to CBS low def (channel 4 for me), then I have no volume problems.
Also, this volume problem does not happen on any other HD channels either - it's
just CBS HD.

CBS HD audio seems fine to me in Billerica.

AMC HD, TLC HD, Showtime Too HD, & The Movie Channel HD are all up and running here in Somerville, MA

Live in Watertown - AMCHD 859, TLCHD 867, SHO2D 878, TMCHD 883

woah, interesting note....TMCHD is broadcasting Showtime Too HD, while SHO2D is broadcasting The Movie Channel HD, hopefully they fix it.

EDIT: It's fixed.

Live in Watertown - AMCHD 859, TLCHD 867, SHO2D 878, TMCHD 883

Confirmed in Manchester, NH as well.

AMC 859 and TCL 867 confirmed in Burlington. (I don't get SHO or TMC.)

Updated Comcast HD chart (7-29)
-----------------------------------------------------
802 WGBH HD (PBS HD)
804 WBZ-DT Boston (CBS-HD)
805 WCVB-DT Boston (ABC-HD)
807 WHDH-DT Boston (NBC-HD)
809 WMUR-DT Manchester (ABC-HD)
821 National Geo
823 Discovery HD
824 Disney HD
825 WFXT-DT Boston (Fox-HD)
826 ABC Family HD
828 MHD
831 TBS HD
832 HGTV HD
833 TNT HD
835 USA HD
837 AnE HD
838 WSBK-DT Boston
839 HD Theatre
842 CNN HD
846 Universal HD
848 Versus /Golf HD
849 ESPN HD
850 ESPN 2 HD
851 NESN HD
852 Comcast Sportsnet NE HD
853 NFL Network HD
854 Food HD
856 WLVI-DT Boston (CW-HD)
857 Science channel HD
859 AMC HD
862 SciFi channel HD
863 Animal Planet HD
867 TLC HD
868 Cinemax HD
870 HBO HD
872 History HD
875 Starz HD
877 Showtime HD
878 Sho 2 HD
881 Mojo
883 TMC HD

I was just wondering if anyone else is getting this problem.

Tonight, all shows on CBS HD (channel 804 for me) have this volume problem.
During commercials, the volume levels are normal and you can hear everything. But
when the actual show comes on, the speaking is practically inaudible. If I crank the
volume to hear the speaking, then the laugh tracks are way too loud. Then when
the commercials come on it's deafening loud.

If I switch over to CBS low def (channel 4 for me), then I have no volume problems.
Also, this volume problem does not happen on any other HD channels either - it's
just CBS HD.

I don't know where you are but here, in Fall River, I had/have the same problem.

New channels NOT working in Concord NH

New channels are on in Dover, NH, although there seems to be little, if any, HD content on them. AMC has become the biggest joke, considering its origins and past. The Sand Pebbles, cropped and stretched.......ugh.

I've tried everything including telling Comcast I was going to switch to Direct TV. They will not budge on the $12.95 for the second HD box even though they are giving customers a SD box free for 1 year as a promo now. You think they would at least split the difference with me.

They won't give you something at a discount? The nerve!

I've tried everything including telling Comcast I was going to switch to Direct TV. They will not budge on the $12.95 for the second HD box even though they are giving customers a SD box free for 1 year as a promo now. You think they would at least split the difference with me.

Customers HAVE to get digital boxes because of the channel change, not HD.

New channels NOT working in Concord NH
I'm in Concord, NH and the channels AMCHD and TLCHD were working fine for me as of noon today. I don't have Showtime or TMC so I can't evaluate those.

I'm in Concord, NH and the channels AMCHD and TLCHD were working fine for me as of noon today. I don't have Showtime or TMC so I can't evaluate those.

Same thing in Easton.

I'm in Billerica and I noticed that since Tuesday, most of the HD channels have syncing/stuttering problems.

For example, ESPN HD, NESN HD, HISTORY HD, Discovery HD, all have syncing/stuttering problems. Its strange that only certain HD channels are affected but all SD channels are fine. :eek:

Anyone else in the same area having this issue?

I"m still having issues with syncing/stuttering problems. In fact, last night it was just terrible. Even the SD channels had issues. My internet was also losing connections? :eek:

This must be related to my surrounding neighborhood. Maybe a pole near by was damaged or something.....:mad:

I"m still having issues with syncing/stuttering problems. In fact, last night it was just terrible. Even the SD channels had issues. My internet was also losing connections? :eek:

This must be related to my surrounding neighborhood. Maybe a pole near by was damaged or something.....:mad:


Sounds like it may be just you. Do you have any buddies in the neighborhood with the same issue? Have you tried getting a tech out? The longer you wait the longer it may last.

Is today the 1st day 7 news is in HD?

Is today the 1st day 7 news is in HD?

Yes

DVRed the Noon and 4:00 newscasts on 7. I had to fast-forward through the stories, but I played the studio chat and they (anchors and meteorologists) definitely weren't making anything out of the fact that they were in HD. They started talking about it on the 5:00 newscast.

According to them, tonight's 10:00 newscast on 56 will also be in HD.

Looks a little dull to me compared to channel 5.

I have the new channels, however no guide info is populating.

Any idea if we are gonna get round 3 of new chans next Tuesday?

lots of audio issues for first 15 mins, also going back and forth to SD, but as of 6:45pm looks normal.

Nice picture in HD.

Is this the local news or the national?

I've tried everything including telling Comcast I was going to switch to Direct TV. They will not budge on the $12.95 for the second HD box even though they are giving customers a SD box free for 1 year as a promo now. You think they would at least split the difference with me.

The prices are set nationally and in the computer database. Its like going into McDonald's and telling them to sell you a Big Mac for 75 cents or else you are going to Burger King.

Any idea if we are gonna get round 3 of new chans next Tuesday?

No new channels for at least another month or so. I will tell you one of them will be Fox News HD.

I would really like FX HD and maybe some more HBO and Starz channels. They also could throw in Encore HD while they are at it.

So the new channels are up and running for me, and in the guide. But TBSHD is gone completely, can't tune to 831 and its off the guide. The weird mapping with TNT over the weekend was strange, but I figured it was a technical problem, not a precursor to removal.

Normally this wouldn't be a big loss, but I like the Sunday baseball in HD and the playoffs aren't that far away. Anyone know what the deal is?

Sounds like it may be just you. Do you have any buddies in the neighborhood with the same issue? Have you tried getting a tech out? The longer you wait the longer it may last.

Just came home and all the channels seem to be back to normal. So I'm thinking it must have been some sort of local issue and not isolated to me. :)

Rob 606 said that 3rd round HD adds would only be for Boston/Brookline only. Hope that isnt case Like to see weather HD

Again with the weather. I'd like to see FX, more movie channels, Speed, Cartoon Network, HDNet and Spike before we get all the way down to the Weather Channel...

Some interesting things happened with the addition of the new channels here in Backbay Boston. Some good, some bad. Perhaps some of you may have answers as to why this would happen?

First off, my connection, as i recently learned from an official tech, isn't exactly supported by Comcast -- if you're "lucky" enough to get a Contractor as opposed to a tech, they will string along a connection from the single permitted box from the end of the block. So, over time more and more contractors have installed connections, thus weakening the signal each time.

Anywhen, i've since installed a signal booster which worked perfectly at the time and all channels were clear. Over time certain channels degraded. Of particular insterest to me SciFiHD/DSCHD and more recently i even lost SciFi standard at times.

Today i came to find out, with the new additions, SciFiHD/SD and DSCHD suddenly come in perfectly clear as well as all the rest of the HD lineup with the new exceptions of completely losing MHD as well as FSNHD and even FSNSD (which sucks since i watch the channel daily and if it's not back by the Celt's next season...) -- both of which had no issue before.

I know there is likely nothing i can really do on my end to resolve this so i guess i'm just curious as to how this would happen. My guess is with the new channel additions Comcast has shuffled certain channels location in terms of where it is located in frequency/bandwidth... though i'm not all that familiar technically with how cable works. I know how to access the service menus of my box and all but don't really know what much of the details mean :)

So anyways, if anyone knows of some technical details of why this happened i'd be interested to hear some out of curiosity.

Some interesting things happened with the addition of the new channels here in Backbay Boston. Some good, some bad. Perhaps some of you may have answers as to why this would happen?

First off, my connection, as i recently learned from an official tech, isn't exactly supported by Comcast -- if you're "lucky" enough to get a Contractor as opposed to a tech, they will string along a connection from the single permitted box from the end of the block. So, over time more and more contractors have installed connections, thus weakening the signal each time.

Anywhen, i've since installed a signal booster which worked perfectly at the time and all channels were clear. Over time certain channels degraded. Of particular insterest to me SciFiHD/DSCHD and more recently i even lost SciFi standard at times.

Today i came to find out, with the new additions, SciFiHD/SD and DSCHD suddenly come in perfectly clear as well as all the rest of the HD lineup with the new exceptions of completely losing MHD as well as FSNHD and even FSNSD (which sucks since i watch the channel daily and if it's not back by the Celt's next season...) -- both of which had no issue before.

I know there is likely nothing i can really do on my end to resolve this so i guess i'm just curious as to how this would happen. My guess is with the new channel additions Comcast has shuffled certain channels location in terms of where it is located in frequency/bandwidth... though i'm not all that familiar technically with how cable works. I know how to access the service menus of my box and all but don't really know what much of the details mean :)

So anyways, if anyone knows of some technical details of why this happened i'd be interested to hear some out of curiosity.

How is your connection not officially supported by Comcast?

As with all the other systems in MA and NH it seems they probably moved the HDs around in the spectrum. If the services you were having issues with before were in the high end of the 860mhz spectrum, and now they are in the low end, that would explain going from worse to better.

I would ask how you could be a paying customer and not get an officially supported connection from Comcast.

How is your connection not officially supported by Comcast?

As with all the other systems in MA and NH it seems they probably moved the HDs around in the spectrum. If the services you were having issues with before were in the high end of the 860mhz spectrum, and now they are in the low end, that would explain going from worse to better.

I would ask how you could be a paying customer and not get an officially supported connection from Comcast.

I should have explained that better but i thought i was getting a little long winded :)

I live behind Symphony Hall and when i first moved in, i was told that cable was not possible in the area because the installation of cable would somehow affect the Hall *shrug*

So Satellite was the only option for some time but was a pain in the arse -- i had to go through loops in order to just get access to the roof which was can only be reached through the fourth floor of the condo next door. Over the time of my residence here i've had two Dishes vanish, and somehow they would often get disconnection.

Frustrated with this i would constantly call Comcast to see if cable was available yet in my area ... one day i saw a Comcast van working in my area as well as street paint labeling where cable lines were to be laid in my area. I eventually gave Comcast a call and they said it was available! So i then set up an appointment, had it installed and all seemed good.

Over time the signal started to weaken on some channels but there was really nothing on those channels that bothered me enough to do anything. Then one day a majority of my lineup was either pixelating or just not loading. I gave a call out to tech support and they sent out an actual Comcast tech, not a contractor. It was then i learned out what was really happening -- apparently there is one legit Comcast connection in the alley behind my place. Somehow Comcast got it in their system that cable was available in my area, and if you got a contractor to come to install they will do it since they work by the hour and sort of bend the rules of the install. Can't really blame them i guess... The Comcast tech said that they the tech would not do this type of install since it's not really permitted and there is nothing that they can do to help because it's not really "supported".

So i'm kind of stuck in this situation until they install more "hubs" (for lack of the actual term i'm looking for) in the area. The signal booster helps a bunch as i get practically nothing without it.

Anywhen, there's the longwindedness of my connection, i'm a actual paying customer that had a shady install that apparently only contractors will do. Thanks for the info about the possible specrum movement, i thought it would be something along those lines

I'm not sure if my problem is isolated or not, but figured I'd post anyway to find out.

845 (Weather Channel HD) still shows up in my Tivo guide, but whenever I try to tune to 845, it automatically switches to 245 (Weather Channel SD). If I flip through the channels and try to flip from 842 (CNN HD) to 845 to 846 (Universal HD), it puts me to 245.

I've tried resetting my box but no luck. Will this only be resolved once Weather Channel HD has truly gone HD and is back on 845?

Thanks.

So i'm kind of stuck in this situation until they install more "hubs" (for lack of the actual term i'm looking for) in the area.Makes sense, and if the Symphony Hall is against it, it is doubtful that the franchising authority will allow Comcast to do so. I think you do have a legitimate beef with City Hall, though. Symphony Hall's contention sounds fishy to me, and you have as much right to have services available to you as any other resident.

I'm not sure if my problem is isolated or not, but figured I'd post anyway to find out.

845 (Weather Channel HD) still shows up in my Tivo guide, but whenever I try to tune to 845, it automatically switches to 245 (Weather Channel SD). If I flip through the channels and try to flip from 842 (CNN HD) to 845 to 846 (Universal HD), it puts me to 245.

I've tried resetting my box but no luck. Will this only be resolved once Weather Channel HD has truly gone HD and is back on 845?

Thanks.

845 is a remapping of 245 which is Weather SCAN,NOT the Weather channel

845 is a remapping of 245 which is Weather SCAN,NOT the Weather channel

But it is useful, especially when there is severe weather unlike NBC's weather plus.

Also 7 news will never look as good as WCVB because of that same sub-channel!

Anyone know if Comcast pulls the local HD feeds OTA, or if they have a fiber feed to the stations themselves?

So the new channels are up and running for me, and in the guide. But TBSHD is gone completely, can't tune to 831 and its off the guide. The weird mapping with TNT over the weekend was strange, but I figured it was a technical problem, not a precursor to removal.

Normally this wouldn't be a big loss, but I like the Sunday baseball in HD and the playoffs aren't that far away. Anyone know what the deal is?

I just did a live chat with a cs rep and was told to unplug my box for a minute to bring back 831. I'll try it when I get home, but I am not optimistic.

I'm not sure if my problem is isolated or not, but figured I'd post anyway to find out.

845 (Weather Channel HD) still shows up in my Tivo guide, but whenever I try to tune to 845, it automatically switches to 245 (Weather Channel SD). If I flip through the channels and try to flip from 842 (CNN HD) to 845 to 846 (Universal HD), it puts me to 245.

I've tried resetting my box but no luck. Will this only be resolved once Weather Channel HD has truly gone HD and is back on 845?

Thanks.

I get the same issue with my Tivo setup.
Also remaps 366 (FLIX) to 202 (FLIX)
Makes channel surfing a pain.
I remove the channel. I'm one of those people who think weather in HD is a waste of good bandwidth.
Go to Tivo Central/Setting & Parent Controls/Settings/Channels
Enter 845 and select. This will uncheck the channel and you can now surf right by it.

I hope I got my spelling and channels correct. I don't want to get scolded. :D

I get the same issue with my Tivo setup.
Also remaps 366 (FLIX) to 202 (FLIX)
Makes channel surfing a pain.
I remove the channel. I'm one of those people who think weather in HD is a waste of good bandwidth.
Go to Tivo Central/Setting & Parent Controls/Settings/Channels
Enter 845 and select. This will uncheck the channel and you can now surf right by it.

I hope I got my spelling and channels correct. I don't want to get scolded. :D

It's too bad we don't have that weather channel in HD to take up that precious Bandwidth that you speak of IMHO!

No new channels for at least another month or so. I will tell you one of them will be Fox News HD.
Billo The Clown's pasty face in high definition *shudder*

I heard WBZ4 is also has HD news go live too but haven't had a chance to catch it. There is a mention in the Boston OTA thread.

3 out of 4 in HD is great. Fox always pulling up the rear.

I heard WBZ4 is also has HD news go live too but haven't had a chance to catch it. There is a mention in the Boston OTA thread.

3 out of 4 in HD is great. Fox always pulling up the rear.

The last thing the WBZ engineer who posts in the OTA thread said was that they were spending serious money but could not give an exact date yet. That thread will probably get a heads-up when they're ready to go.

WMUR will probably be last in the HD news race. Too bad...

AMC & TLC were added to the South Shore lineup.
AMC ran "Jaws" in Glorious "stretch "O"vision"
TLC looked pretty good.

I just did a live chat with a cs rep and was told to unplug my box for a minute to bring back 831. I'll try it when I get home, but I am not optimistic.

Gonna need a truck roll Tuesday night to take a look at this. Two phone calls and over 45 minutes of my time last night got me that far. Plus the joy of two refresh signals and box resets and the knowledge that I am the only person in the area with this problem.

I'm very interested to see what the tech can do when clearly this is not a hardware issue. A channel completely disppears from the line-up and on-screen guide for both my hd and sd boxes - obviously this is a software issue, probably something as easy as flipping a switch or hitting a few keystrokes at the home office. On the bright side, I gives me an excuse to leave work early on Tuesday.

AMC & TLC were added to the South Shore lineup.
AMC ran "Jaws" in Glorious "stretch "O"vision"
TLC looked pretty good.

Everything I've seen on AMC has been "stretch O vision". I was really looking forward to seeing that wonderful piece of film making better known as "Timecop" in HD!!!;););)

Ladder 49 was on in HD on AMC. It was in the middle of airing when the channel launched here on Tuesday morning. Since then only Mad Men re-runs have been in HD. (Which I don't mind, because that & Breaking Bad, is the only reason i wanted that channel.)

AMC & TLC were added to the South Shore lineup.
AMC ran "Jaws" in Glorious "stretch "O"vision"
TLC looked pretty good.

Please take into consideration that Jaws was made back when the phrase high definition was non-exsitant. On top of that, the screen size of a film is slightly different then that of a modern wide screen TV. Any newer movies and their original programming would certainly be in HD. However, after a week, I am disappointed that Disney and ABC Fam does not offer more in HD. Two HD feeds that could have been used for other channels. Oh how the Mouse dominates all.

From what I've seen. ABC Family has their own shows in HD (Kyle XY, Middleman etc.), but almost nothing else. Disney has almost all of their movies on in HD, as well as the majority of their animated shows. So right now Disney has more in HD than ABC Family, which is a shocker.

Please take into consideration that Jaws was made back when the phrase high definition was non-exsitant. On top of that, the screen size of a film is slightly different then that of a modern wide screen TV.

Incorrect. Jaws was shot on 35mm film, which has a far higher resolution than either of the 720p or 1080i HDTV resolutions.

So, it's very, very, very likely that AMC ran an old,old,old 4:3 transfer in glorious stretch-o-vision.

Still waiting for all of these new HD channels to get turned up in the former-Adelphia towns of NH, BTW. Rumor has it that it's happening on 8/5.

Incorrect. Jaws was shot on 35mm film, which has a far higher resolution than either of the 720p or 1080i HDTV resolutions.

So, it's very, very, very likely that AMC ran an old,old,old 4:3 transfer in glorious stretch-o-vision.

Still waiting for all of these new HD channels to get turned up in the former-Adelphia towns of NH, BTW. Rumor has it that it's happening on 8/5.

Exactly. Not to mention that Universal HD ran Jaws a while back in very nice-looking 2:35 AR HD!

Noticed that there is message on Ch3 saying CN8 is in the digital tier. That 6MHz of space is still open for 2or 3 more HD channels. Any idea what they be?

Anyone in chelmsford area see picture issues for HD around 3:00? I see pixels, picture freezing in Channels 831, 839, 849, 850, 851

I WAS going to pay a final bill of around $15.

They want $200? For what?

They just kissed their $15 goodbye.

I shouldn't pay them another cent

I WAS going to pay a final bill of around $15.

They want $200? For what?

They just kissed their $15 goodbye.

I shouldn't pay them another cent

What is this $200 for? :confused:

What is this $200 for? :confused:

They never took my order to shut their service off.

How can you have phone service without their box?

Granted they still haven't disconnected theri Standard TV.

It is supposed to be a final bill of around $20 they think I still have an account. My email was shuit off Saturday and my old phone # is not active.

By Tim Faulkner, Staff Writer
GateHouse News Service
Posted Jul 30, 2008 @ 11:23 PM

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RAYNHAM — Unless the public speaks up, Raynham cable subscribers will no longer be receiving Boston television news channels when the current cable contract expires in February.

In response to a public hearing in June at Raynham Town Hall, Catherine Maloney of Comcast said the Federal Communication Commission sets the rules and Raynham falls in the Providence TV market. Therefore “We are required (by the FCC) to black out programming from the Boston broadcast stations in favor of the Providence broadcast stations.” She did not return a call for comment.

The loss of Boston news access applies to the digital and high definition channels, as well as the traditional analog channels.

Residents who want see the Boston news channels on their cable boxes must petition the FCC or the station directly, Maloney said.

Kevin Ellis, chairman of the Raynham Cable Advisory Committee, is urging subscribers to speak up about the Boston news outage as well as other cable issues by mailing or dropping off letters in care of Ellis at Raynham Town Hall.

Ellis has also been imploring Verizon to offer local television viewers more alternatives by entering the Raynham cable market, but he was told by a company representative that Verizon was not interested in joining the Raynham cable market until 2010.

Currently, Verizon includes the Boston channels as part of their Taunton service, while Comcast only offers Boston channels during non-prime time hours.

Negotiations over the new 10-year contract with Comcast will continue next month. “Fortunately, it’s a non-exclusive contract,” Ellis said, meaning other cable carriers can enter the Raynham market at any time.

Comcast will also be closing its cable access studio in Easton, which produces local shows for Avon, Raynham, Stoughton, in addition to Easton. The Raynham Board of Selectmen has endorsed efforts to create a broadcast studio at Gilmore Hall on Broadway. Ellis said he will announce an alternative location at an upcoming Selectmen’s meeting.

tfaulkner@tauntongazette.com
This will be bad news for those of us in southeast Ma.

Anyone in chelmsford area see picture issues for HD around 3:00? I see pixels, picture freezing in Channels 831, 839, 849, 850, 851

Same problem in N Billerica.

Called Comcast and they have an automated message that they are having a multi-channel problem in my area. So it seems like they are working on it.

Same problem in N Billerica.

Called Comcast and they have an automated message that they are having a multi-channel problem in my area. So it seems like they are working on it.

I just got off the phone and got same message. Missed Theo press conf in HD, hope they fix it b4 the game

I just got off the phone and got same message. Missed Theo press conf in HD, hope they fix it b4 the game

Seems Ok now.

Seems Ok now.

yes

There's a report from Jacksonville that they just got FNC, Speed and FX added, and followup posts saying that they've been seen elsewhere. I wonder, are these the next adds for us?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14417452#post14417452

Were a bunch of posts lost? It's 8/11 and the above post is from 8/1...I know I posted something inbetween then.

Correction: Posted on www.AVSForum.com home page...

AVS Forum Data Loss
Aug 11, 2008 - 10:47 AM - by David Bott
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Has anyone outside of Boston seen channel 800 (PPV HD)? I have it in the Boston zone.

Have there been any offerings yet?

I'm in Cambridge and I don't have it.

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Has anyone outside of Boston seen channel 800 (PPV HD)? I have it in the Boston zone.

Have there been any offerings yet?

Nothing here in Concord NH

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Has anyone outside of Boston seen channel 800 (PPV HD)? I have it in the Boston zone.

Have there been any offerings yet?

Boston Only at this time. The only event so far was the UFC event Saturday night.

posted last week, Bristol County is losing WBZ-DT 804. In tis place will be WPRI-DT 812 on 10/1/2008 for CBS HD. Already lost NBC,Fox , and CW Boston HD for Providence HD.

posted last week, Bristol County is losing WBZ-DT 804. In tis place will be WPRI-DT 812 on 10/1/2008 for CBS HD. Already lost NBC,Fox , and CW Boston HD for Providence HD.


This is insane how they can do this, regardless of the rules. How about getting the channels from the state you live in? Last I checked Britol county was in MA. not in RI.

Bristol County is considered part of the Providence DMA (the area that counts for their ratings).

It wouldn't make sense for folks living in Stamford, CT to get channels from Hartford, for example. "State" is irrelevant. What matters is proximity.

It wouldn't make sense for folks living in Stamford, CT to get channels from Hartford, for example. "State" is irrelevant. What matters is proximity.

except that they do through cablevision receive the 4 major network channels for Hartford/New Haven and on their digital tier receive NECN

except that they (...) receive NECNNo one's saying that it's not part of New England...

There is nothing prohibiting MSOs from providing more channels than they must, except limited bandwidth. If that have bandwidth to burn, more power to them. Otherwise, they had BETTER provide the channels they're supposed to provide!

New England technically begins at the Connecticut River.

There is nothing prohibiting MSOs from providing more channels than they must, except limited bandwidth. If that have bandwidth to burn, more power to them. Otherwise, they had BETTER provide the channels they're supposed to provide!

New England technically begins at the Connecticut River.

sorry if I misled you, of course they have all the nyc locals

couldn't agree more re New England, Southern Fairfield County in particular considers themselves new yorkers

There is nothing prohibiting MSOs from providing more channels than they must, except limited bandwidth. If that have bandwidth to burn, more power to them. Otherwise, they had BETTER provide the channels they're supposed to provide!

New England technically begins at the Connecticut River.

The cable companies can only provide locals for their DMA. For example, years ago, Boston used to carry the Providence nets. They can no longer do that.
I'm still trying to figure out why Comcast is exempt from carrying WMUR in Manchester, which is in the Boston DMA. DirecTV carries it.

I wonder why we get both WCVB-DT 805 and WLNE-DT 806 in Bristol County. (Glad we do)

I wonder why we get both WCVB-DT 805 and WLNE-DT 806 in Bristol County. (Glad we do)

Likely contractual obligations preventing them from dropping WCVB DT. The cable co is not going to want to burn 2 HDs for the same programming, but if they are forced to by contract then they have to.

Current HD Lineup in Boston (backbay) Comcast

793 FUSED
794 BRAVO HD
795 CNBC HD
796 ESPN News HD
797 BIO HD
798 IFC HD
799 WE HD
800 HD PPV
802 WGBH HD
804 WBZ (CBS) HD
805 WCVB (ABC) HD
807 WHDH (NBC) HD
821 National Geo HD
822 NHL HD
823 Discovery HD
824 Disney HD
825 WFXT (Fox) HD
826 Abc Family HD
828 MHD
830 FX HD
831 TBS HD
832 HG TV HD
833 TNT HD
835 USA HD
837 A&E HD
838 WSBK ( UPN) HD
839 HDT
841 Fox News HD
842 CNN HD
845 WeatherScan HD
846 Universal HD
847 Weather Channel HD
848 Golf HD
849 ESPN HD
850 ESPN2 HD
851 NESN HD
852 Comcast Sport Network HD
853 NFL HD
854 Food HD
856 WLVI (WB) HD
857 Science HD
859 AMC HD
862 Sci Fi HD
863 Animal Planet HD
864 NBC Olympics HD Basketball
865 NBC Olympics HD Soccer
866 Science HD
867 TLC HD
868 Max HD
870 HBO HD
872 History HD
875 Starz HD
877 SHOWTIME HD
878 SHOWTIME 2 HD
881 MOJO HD
883 TMC HD
885 Big 10 HD

:)


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Green are temp most probably for Olympics
Blue are the one added yesterday

Wow. That's a lot more than we have across the Charles...

Wow. That's a lot more than we have across the Charles...

At least that list gives The Rest Of Us a hint of what might be coming in the next few months.

Current HD Lineup in Boston (backbay)What do the colors mean? Obviously the greens are temp channels and at least to me, the blues are channels I don't have, but why did you color them blue?

(Though I also don't have 800 or 847)

What do the colors mean? Obviously the greens are temp channels and at least to me, the blues are channels I don't have, but why did you color them blue?

(Though I also don't have 800 or 847)

Green are temp most probably for Olympics
Blue are the one added yesterday

None of the new channels have shown up in Derry yet. :(

Pete

http://www.petelanglois.net

This is very exciting, imagine a bunch of new channels and not one is sports ;-)

-Ken

This is very exciting, imagine a bunch of new channels and not one is sportsWell, one is a sports news channel...

Well, one is a sports news channel...

oops how did i miss espn news tucked in there !

-Ken

Current HD Lineup in Boston (backbay) Comcast


798 IFC HD

FANTASTIC! Now all we need is Sundance and TCM in HD.

Great...now how long until we see those in Somerville :confused: lol

Boston has 12 more HD channels as the burbs. When did Boston go to limited analog channels? WHy was the no outrage when this change happened?

Boston has 12 more HD channels as the burbs. When did Boston go to limited analog channels? WHy was the no outrage when this change happened?

From what I've read, the City of Boston/Brookline combination was inherited from the old Continental Cablesystems (passing through Mediaone and AT&T Broadband in the meantime) and has always (or at least for a very long time) required a box for Expanded Basic. Without the no-box-for-me crowd to worry about, those channels could go digital without protest.

Yeah, ages ago they moved most of the expanded basic to the use of a box, if I recall it was the entire "B" side, with mostly PPV, adult programming, hbo, and a few others. While at the time, the A side was for the most part unencrypted, so a box wasn't needed. Then after ATT rebuilt the system, they killed off the B side, went ~100 channels all on the same "side" (so to speak), and they started 1 by 1 knocking off channels, requiring the use of a box for just about everything. That was a few years ago, however!

So yeah, most of those channels already required a box years ago, the issue was if I recall, a normal descrambler rental was about ~3, while a digital box rental was ~5-6 (I Think, I know the analog descrambler was a bit cheaper!)

I tipped the "What's the next channel for Comcast" thread to this news, and moderator Ken H answered that five of these were completely new (not even a rumor) for Comcast nationally (Fuse,Bravo,Bio,IFC,WE). In addition, ESPNews was signed but not yet available anywhere, and CNBC had been rumored.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14445604#post14445604

That would seem to make City of Boston/Brookline the national leader for Comcast HD. Envious congratulations, you lucky, lucky people!

Added today Boston (backbay)

885 Big 10 HD

I pulled the trigger today and signed up for Dish Turbo HD Gold, Turbo HD Platinum, and HD Locals, HD content only. I get HBO and Stars free for 3 months, Cinamax free for a year, free equipment VIP722 DVR and VIP222 HD receiver hooked up to 3 TV's all for $56.99 for the first 3 months then it goes to $66.99. Goodbye Comcast nice knowing you. :)

I'm staying put, looking at that Boston line up makes me look forward to getting all those channels as well and you never know if Comcast will also offer just an HD package once all those channels are in place just to stay competitive if nothing else.

I work in back bay but live in the burbs. I wish I got cable from there!

Wow! I just signed up for the Dish Turbo today! And now all these channels!

Impressive, I must say, but still I have all these channels except FX and Fox News, and I am saving about $50 per month on my TV bill, and that is AFTER adding an HD box to my bedroom 26" TV. PQ is as good, maybe even a tab better than Comcast in my opinion, but I have a small 32" TV.

None of those listed in Blue are down here on the South Shore yet.
We do get the Temp green ones though.

This is insane how they can do this, regardless of the rules. How about getting the channels from the state you live in? Last I checked Britol county was in MA. not in RI.

Absolutely, like I give a rats a** about the Providence market.

Bah

Absolutely, like I give a rats a** about the Providence market.Move here! :)

None of those listed in Blue are down here on the South Shore yet.
We do get the Temp green ones though.

Those are City of Boston/Brookline only.

They have more space because a box is required for Expanded Basic there, and the channels have gone digital.

They have about a dozen channels The Rest of Us don't, and probably won't for awhile.

Expect this gap to GROW, not shrink!

Absolutely, like I give a rats a** about the Providence market.

Bah

There's talk in Easton of petitioning the FCC to change our DMA to Boston.Members of the cable advisory board are looking into it.The Providence stations that are trying to enforce their rights on keeping Easton and other towns inside 495 as part of their market could be walking a very fine line. Communities can seek relief and be included in a different DMA. I would guess that most people in Easton would prefer that the town be in the Boston DMA and also would believe that Boston stations better serve our community.

Added today Boston (backbay)

885 Big 10 HD

Hmm..only have the SD version on 285 here in Marlboro, good to know eventually we'll see it in HD.

There's talk in Easton of petitioning the FCC to change our DMA to Boston.This is the appropriate reaction to the situation. Best of luck to those folks.

This is the appropriate reaction to the situation. Best of luck to those folks.

I think the quickest solution is to get the Boston stations over the air. I was playing with one of those digital analog converter boxes and was suprised how much stuff I could pick up OTA. I know it's not as convenient to use two tuning sources but it does work. And there is no added compression OTA either.

-Ken

Please bear with me; I'm trying to help my mother-in-law. If I run a Comcast digital cable feed directly into her new HDTV set (internal NTSC/ATSC/QAM, no cable box, no cablecard), what stations should I expect to receive? Will anything be hi-definition? Our location is Boston south shore. Thanks.

Please bear with me; I'm trying to help my mother-in-law. If I run a Comcast digital cable feed directly into her new HDTV set (internal NTSC/ATSC/QAM, no cable box, no cablecard), what stations should I expect to receive? Will anything be hi-definition? Our location is Boston south shore. Thanks.

Most likely the locals. When I had Comcast 2,4,5,7,25,38,and 56 all came in and mapped to their channel number (56 on 56 not 12)

Please bear with me; I'm trying to help my mother-in-law. If I run a Comcast digital cable feed directly into her new HDTV set (internal NTSC/ATSC/QAM, no cable box, no cablecard), what stations should I expect to receive? Will anything be hi-definition? Our location is Boston south shore. Thanks.Last time I checked this is what I received North of Boston:

http://brianandrobbie.com/ComcastQAMMappingBurlingtonMA.JPG

So it is a bit more than the local broadcast channels, but not much more.

Last time I checked this is what I received North of Boston:

http://brianandrobbie.com/ComcastQAMMappingBurlingtonMA.JPG

So it is a bit more than the local broadcast channels, but not much more.

Interesting. So you would NOT receive the major networks' local HD stations on your 'naked' HDTV, except GBH as noted.

Interesting. So you would NOT receive the major networks' local HD stations on your 'naked' HDTV, except GBH as noted.

No thats not true, its just the wording . 4-1, 5-1 etc are the HD channels.

-Ken

WBZ = CBS
WCVB = ABC
WHDH = NBC
WFXT = Fox
etc.

There's talk in Easton of petitioning the FCC to change our DMA to Boston.Members of the cable advisory board are looking into it.The Providence stations that are trying to enforce their rights on keeping Easton and other towns inside 495 as part of their market could be walking a very fine line. Communities can seek relief and be included in a different DMA. I would guess that most people in Easton would prefer that the town be in the Boston DMA and also would believe that Boston stations better serve our community.

Any action that the residents can take to help move it along?

I think the quickest solution is to get the Boston stations over the air. I was playing with one of those digital analog converter boxes and was suprised how much stuff I could pick up OTA. I know it's not as convenient to use two tuning sources but it does work. And there is no added compression OTA either.

-Ken

Is there a basic antenna that can pickup all the locals OTH?

Any action that the residents can take to help move it along?

In my opinion it is never going to happen. The providence stations will fight it with their corporate lawyers. They do not want to lose areas of their DMA as it will cost them big advertising revenue.

-Ken

Is there a basic antenna that can pickup all the locals OTH?

How many air miles are you from Boston ? I'm 27 miles north and can pick up all the digital stations on old rabbit ears.

This website can help you determine what you need:

http://www.tvfool.com/

I talked to a Fairpoint tech over the weekend. He said that fiber optic TV will be in NH by the new year.

Anyone know if Comcast is still requiring a truck be rolled out including "one-time" setup fee for the Tivo software? I added the Tivo upgrade to my cart on the Comcast site and under the one-time fee category it says $0.00. Does this mean they are no longer charging for setup?

This notice was included on the bill I received today:

Beginning 10/1, the following changes will be made to your basic HD channel lineup: WSBK-DTHD will move from channel 838 to 814, WFXT-DTHD will move from channel 825 to 806 and WLVI-DTHD will move from channel 856 to 808. These changes will be complete by 10/15.

Hmm... I wonder why they're doing that. Perhaps they want to group the OTA networks' channels together?

I wish they'd move History HD (872) out from in the middle of the premium movie channels...

Very confusing... WFXT ("Channel 25"), digital channel 31, is going to be on Comcast channels 13 and 806.

In my opinion it is never going to happen. The providence stations will fight it with their corporate lawyers. They do not want to lose areas of their DMA as it will cost them big advertising revenue.

-Ken

Here's an example of a successful petition to the FCC.

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-03-3798A1.pdf

Well, that's really a reverse example: That would be like a Providence channel petitioning to be carried by cable systems in some Boston DMA communities. And the reverse example is much easier to defend, since (in the referenced case) the Lansing channel evidently provides more programming geared to the target communities, while the Detroit channel doesn't. For that kind of petition to work in Bristol County, you'd have to show that WHDH (for example) provides more Bristol County-specific programming than WJAR does. I suspect that isn't the case.

I don't think we want to move all of Bristol County to the Boston DMA.Easton is closer to Boston than Providence.When something happens in town the Boston news stations are the ones that show up.The same thing in Mansfield for that matter.Our state senator's district goes from Boston to Easton.

Anyone know if Comcast is still requiring a truck be rolled out including "one-time" setup fee for the Tivo software? I added the Tivo upgrade to my cart on the Comcast site and under the one-time fee category it says $0.00. Does this mean they are no longer charging for setup?


No as long as you have the correct DVR model & you have good signal level to the box it does not need a tech to be rolled out. The fee is $1.99

No as long as you have the correct DVR model & you have good signal level to the box it does not need a tech to be rolled out. The fee is $1.99

Thanks. Currently I do not have DVR service(I know, still living in the 80's, sorrry:D) I just have an HD box and I am assuming the signal is good. Can I just pick up a DVR box at my local Comcast location without the need for tech visit?

I am proud of myself. I finally got around to calling Comcast about any promotions they were running for current subscribers. I was told nothing was available. Later, I called back, this time I talked to retention. Just for mentioning that I was possbily interested in Satellite, they offered Digital Classic, Digital Preffered and Showtime for 6 months for free. Thanks Comcast.:D

I am proud of myself. I finally got around to calling Comcast about any promotions they were running for current subscribers. I was told nothing was available. Later, I called back, this time I talked to retention. Just for mentioning that I was possbily interested in Satellite, they offered Digital Classic, Digital Preffered and Showtime for 6 months for free. Thanks Comcast.:D

I called them 3 times to see what they could offer me and keeping me switching to Dishnetwork. I get Dish installed on Thursday.

Thanks. Currently I do not have DVR service(I know, still living in the 80's, sorrry:D) I just have an HD box and I am assuming the signal is good. Can I just pick up a DVR box at my local Comcast location without the need for tech visit?

Yes

I called them 3 times to see what they could offer me and keeping me switching to Dishnetwork. I get Dish installed on Thursday.

I don't get it. You wanted to stay with Comcast, or you wanted to get Dish? Or, you just wanted to pay less and you don't care who the provider is?

I don't get it. You wanted to stay with Comcast, or you wanted to get Dish? Or, you just wanted to pay less and you don't care who the provider is?

I wanted to stay with Comcast but I didn't want to pay $13.95 for a second HD box I would have paid $6.95 which is what Dish charges. I told them the deal I was getting from Dish and they said there was nothing they could do for me and change if thats what I want to do.

I called them 3 times to see what they could offer me and keeping me switching to Dishnetwork. I get Dish installed on Thursday.

You won't regret it!

Could this be a preview of things to come after clearing some more analog to didital?

Comcast yesterday added 15 new High-Definition channels in the Chicago area.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/comcast081908.htm

Sure it is,but when is the matter of when more analogs are cleared. I hope will we see another round in 2008.

Sure it is,but when is the matter of when more analogs are cleared. I hope will we see another round in 2008.

Two of the cleared analogs are still showing messages that the channels have been moved so obviously they aren't being used for digital yet. In addition to that we have the two temp. Olympic channels that will be disappearing in about a week. Plenty of room for more stuff.

-Ken

South of Boston, expanded basic, digital starter, sports pack. I have 2 HDTV with cable cards (never had a cable box). Just got a TV with no CC slot (seems hard to find one with CC). Can't find much HD other the locals. What is the cost for an HD box on top of my 2 CC. Seems the government mandate to provide content without cable box and all TV’s with QAM tuners have been a bust, a big waste of time, effort and money.

It is up to television manufacturers to offer the product you want, Contsi, and they have little interest in doing so because customers are uninterested in paying a premium for televisions that do what you're looking for.

This is how comcast is going to completely eliminate analog in 20% of their markets by the end of the year:

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6575950.html

Low cost digital to analog adapters.

-Ken

Sounds great---I'm all for freeing up spectrum ASAP...

This is how comcast is going to completely eliminate analog in 20% of their markets by the end of the year:

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6575950.html

Low cost digital to analog adapters.

-Ken

They have also budgeted twice the amount for DTAs in 2009 that they're spending this year, which would suggest that they will be somewhere around 60% penetration by the end of '09. Hopefully we're somewhere in that 60%.

We have been reading about this for some time now, just wondering if Comcast is waiting for the Feb 9th cut off date to implement these devices to lure new subscribers who will be coming over from OTA instead of concentrating on their existing customers base that still use old analog tv's.

I'm not sure if my problem is isolated or not, but figured I'd post anyway to find out.

845 (Weather Channel HD) still shows up in my Tivo guide, but whenever I try to tune to 845, it automatically switches to 245 (Weather Channel SD). If I flip through the channels and try to flip from 842 (CNN HD) to 845 to 846 (Universal HD), it puts me to 245.

I've tried resetting my box but no luck. Will this only be resolved once Weather Channel HD has truly gone HD and is back on 845?

Thanks.

I noticed the same issue with channel 845 and called Comcast about it last night. The said it is a know issue and they will be releasing new guide software on August 26 that will resolve the issue.

Just a FYI for everyone switching to digital cable. I had a tech. come to install the free for a year convertor box and he said the cable from the pole to the house needs to be changed too.

Would the government subsidized digital to analog boxes work with cable as well as antenna?

Would the government subsidized digital to analog boxes work with cable as well as antenna?

the government subsidized boxes do not support QAM but some will pass through the analog signal. They can only have RF and composite out, and can only have RF and two channel audio. NO HD output via dvi or hdmi etc....

-Ken

Ah okay. I was thinking that possibly Comcast could move to a nearly all digital setup and just tell customers who do not want to pay for digital service to get one of those converter boxes in order to watch their channels. Less analogs, more room for HD. Just a thought but I guess it wouldn't work.

Well it would "work", of course -- it would just convince many of those customers to consider other suppliers instead.

This is what I am now getting with Dish Network Turbo HD Gold & Platinum, plus some VOD, temperary olympic channels. 55 channels plus the premiums not listed.

A&E HD
ABC HD
ABC Family HD
Animal Planet HD
Big Ten Network HD
Biography HD
Bravo HD
CBS HD
CBS College Sports HD
CNBC HD
CNN HD
CSNNE HD
CW HD
Cartoon Network HD
Discovery Channel HD
Disney HD
ESPN HD
ESPN 2 HD
ESPNews HD
Encore HD
Food Network HD
FOX HD
Golf Channel/Versus HD
HDNet
HD Net Movies
HD Theater
HGTV HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD
History Channel HD
Lifetime HD
Lifetime Movie Network HD
NBA TV HD
NBC HD
MGM HD
MHD
NHL Network HD
NESN HD
NFL HD
National Geographic HD
PBS HD
Planet Green HD
Sci Fi Channel HD
Science Channel HD
Smithsonian HD
TBS HD
TLC HD
TNT HD
Tennis Channel HD
Toon Disney HD
Travel Channel HD
USA HD
Universal HD
WGN America HD
Weather Channel HD
World Fishing Network HD

Just a FYI for everyone switching to digital cable. I had a tech. come to install the free for a year convertor box and he said the cable from the pole to the house needs to be changed too.

That is hogwash.

That is hogwash.

It's the first I have heard of it too. But I think the picture looks a lot better on my plasma. There was no charge for the cable or the installation. It was the 2nd tech. to the house, I didn't like the picture on the CRT set after a couple of days. This guy has been with Comcast for 11 years and said the first tech didn't do the job right. Is it something being held back from the customers that not all the tech's are doing there job right ? What else is new with Comcast.

That is hogwash.

Depending on when the original drop line was put up, its quite possible that a new drop is needed. Older RG-59 drops should definately be replaced as the loss of signal over 100 feet is double that of newer RG-6 cable. The additional loss over 100 feet of RG-59 can mean the difference in having an extra cable box or TV in the house.

Also, depending on the previous tech, yeah, you get variable quality with variable personnel. Doesn't matter what the company or entity is. There will always be those people who put every ounce into their job as they can, and those who do the bare minimum to get the job done and leave the "should have done" stuff to the next guy to roll up.

I noticed the same issue with channel 845 and called Comcast about it last night. The said it is a know issue and they will be releasing new guide software on August 26 that will resolve the issue.

This is only an issue with Tivo boxes and the way the Tivo software handles the guide data. 845 is not HD... its a duplicate of 245. The Tivo boxes for whatever programming reason Tivo had tune to the first instance of that channel in the channel list.

Thursday marked a month since Fios was installed here,and they just had a "Fios is now available in your building promotion."

I know Comcast did a OK so chitchatjf is away let's add another 6 HD channels.

Meanwhile Fios said let's add 23 more but adds 50 plus instead.

However the latest PDF file shows 100 HD channels.

Did bicker1 hold the remaining HD channels ransom? :)

I wish I had that kind of leverage. FiOS still it taking its sweet time, here. The engineers are nice enough guys, but their marching orders are clear. And we're not yet even on the list of homes to begin offering service, even though the fiber's been here over two years, and they're already offering service to other folks on our street.
http://www.bornplaydie.com/japan/kofuguide/calendar/cherries.jpg

My apologies if this is too far OT.... but my mother-in-law's WebTV stopped outputting a signal to Channel 3 on her TV within the last few months, and I'm wondering if it could be related to that channel's move to digital in July. Her TV is still receiving Comcast's signal via the cable passthru built in to the WebTV box (including the "moved to digital" message on channel 3), so I suspect it's an issue with the WebTV app/hardware. Any other opinions?

With Olympics over can we hope to see 2 new HD channels where Olympics Basketball and Socccer HD channels were, soon? Also, people have said that Ch3 and MSNBC analog channels have message channel saying that they have moved to digitial. Can we hope for 4to 6 more HD channels there soon?

Each locality has different bandwidth utilization. Around here, I suspect that movement of several analog channels, including MSNBC, to digital, last month accounted for the availability of bandwidth for the two extra Olympic games channels. So part of the movement of analog channels you mentioned is already reflected in the two Olympic games channels.

I do suspect that we'll get some new HD channels once those two channels go dark, but only time will tell.

I would love to get FX-HD in time for the fall season...

Which starts in 9 days.

Well, tonight's the last day of the Olympics. Plenty of time for them to switch it over. At least we know that Comcast carries FX-HD...

I wish I had that kind of leverage. FiOS still it taking its sweet time, here. The engineers are nice enough guys, but their marching orders are clear. And we're not yet even on the list of homes to begin offering service, even though the fiber's been here over two years, and they're already offering service to other folks on our street.
http://www.bornplaydie.com/japan/kofuguide/calendar/cherries.jpg

They are probably cherry picking because it serves their economic intrests the best. Just because you want them to offer you service, it doesn't mean they should.

Most likely the locals. When I had Comcast 2,4,5,7,25,38,and 56 all came in and mapped to their channel number (56 on 56 not 12)

Should be able to get anything in the clear for the most part for analog and hdtv. I haven't seen a single digital channel get in though.

Anything that is somewhat extra is more of a feed...there used to be quite a bit more...I used to find all of the music choice channels but that's gone.

They are probably cherry picking because it serves their economic intrests the best. Just because you want them to offer you service, it doesn't mean they should.Absolutely. It is important to note simply that they're not the knights in shining armor (compared to Comcast) as some folks are making them out to be. They're Verizon. If you think Comcast is in it just for the money (they are), then just wait until Verizon gets enough market share and starts turning the screws. They'll likely make Comcast look like the knights in shining armor -- Verizon has been doing it a bit longer and are a lot better at it.

AND be fully justified in doing so.

Absolutely. It is important to note simply that they're not the knights in shining armor (compared to Comcast) as some folks are making them out to be. They're Verizon. If you think Comcast is in it just for the money (they are), then just wait until Verizon gets enough market share and starts turning the screws. They'll likely make Comcast look like the knights in shining armor -- Verizon has been doing it a bit longer and are a lot better at it.

AND be fully justified in doing so.

That's a big leap right there. Right now, Verizon offers a superior product for a better/competitive price. I could care less what the future might hold. I don't think people feel that Verizon is a knight in shining armor. I think most people think that Verizon is the best deal going and that's why they want it.

Indeed; I sure would like that option. (Why else would I have been keeping in such close contact with the local engineers, eh?) The issue, though, that typically comes up -- that one that is a matter of disagreement in these threads -- is whether FiOS is "right" and Comcast "wrong". The point is that both are "right" -- they're both doing what they should given their respective place in the marketplace.

I'm wondering if anyone using the Comcast Motorola DVR/cable box has gotten the message "The HD content protection of your display has been compromised. Please use the YPbPr outputs for your connection" ? I just got a new Sylvania 1080p LCD TV and this message appears very briefly on the screen shortly after the TV is turned on. If I then power off the cable box/DVR, it freezes and you can't turn it on or change the channel. The only way to then watch cable again is to unplug the cable box, plug it back in and start fresh. Has anyone encountered this problem, and more importnaly, found a solution? :confused:

I bought a dinky 20$ Philips Indoor VHF/UHF/FM Antenna. I currently have it through a signal booster which I think only increases my signal slightly. These are the digital channels I am picking up.

2.1 WGBH-SD
2.2 WGBH-HD
4.1 WBZ-HD
5.1 WCVB-HD
6.1 WLNE-HD
6.2 WLNE-SD
7.1 WHDH-HD
7.2 WHDH Weather
10.1 WJAR-HD
10.2 WJAR Weather
12.1 WPRI-HD
25.1 WFXT-HD (This signal is very temperamental and the slightest misplacement will cause me to lose it completely)
27.1 WUNI-DT
28.1 WLWC-HD
38.1 WSBK-HD (Also a very temperamental signal)
44.1 WGBX-SD
44.2 World
44.3 Create
44.4 Kids
56.1 WLVI-HD
64.1 WNAC-HD
68.1 ION (All the ION subchannels barely come in. The signal usually goes in and out)
68.2 Quobo
68.3 Ion life
68.4 Worship

Is there anything I am missing that would come in with a better Antenna that has an amp? BTW,tomorrow I am buying a 40$ Philips that has a completly different design and also has an amplifier.

I bought a dinky 20$ Philips Indoor VHF/UHF/FM Antenna. I currently have it through a signal booster which I think only increases my signal slightly. These are the digital channels I am picking up.

2.1 WGBH-SD
2.2 WGBH-HD
4.1 WBZ-HD
5.1 WCVB-HD
6.1 WLNE-HD
6.2 WLNE-SD
7.1 WHDH-HD
7.2 WHDH Weather
10.1 WJAR-HD
10.2 WJAR Weather
12.1 WPRI-HD
25.1 WFXT-HD (This signal is very temperamental and the slightest misplacement will cause me to lose it completely)
27.1 WUNI-DT
28.1 WLWC-HD
38.1 WSBK-HD (Also a very temperamental signal)
44.1 WGBX-SD
44.2 World
44.3 Create
44.4 Kids
56.1 WLVI-HD
64.1 WNAC-HD
68.1 ION (All the ION subchannels barely come in. The signal usually goes in and out)
68.2 Quobo
68.3 Ion life
68.4 Worship

Is there anything I am missing that would come in with a better Antenna that has an amp? BTW,tomorrow I am buying a 40$ Philips that has a completly different design and also has an amplifier.

Your in the wrong forum for this question, you will get better answers in the Boston - OTA thread.

I watched a bit of AMC's James Bond film , "The World is not Enough " the other night.
I find the quality of the HD is looks about the same as a 480P DVD signal. I am disapointed in the quality of AMC HD programming. AMC (59 analog) looks better on my set.

There is little, if any, HD content on AMC-HD. Either the movies are cropped, pan-and-scanned, or shown in glorious "stretch-o-vision". A real waste, unless you're a fan of "Mad Men", which was shown previously in HD on On Demand anyway.

I watched Star Trek: Nemesis over the weekend on AMCHD. It looked better than SD and at least it wasn't stretched, but it was 16:9 fullscreen - so heavily cropped from its 2.35:1 OAR....

And while The World Is Not Enough has been showing in stretch-o-vision, Goldeneye was shown cropped over the weekend.

Yes, Mad Men, and Breaking Bad, are both excellent original dramas, and Mad Men (at least) looks wonderful on AMC HD. I assume that Breaking Bad will look just as good, when it returns.

However, note that most of this discussion is not relevant to this thread. Is there an "AMC HD" thread?

For those living in Bristol County, MA, particularly northern Bristol County, towns like Easton, Raynham, Mansfield, Norton and Taunton, the time is now to stand up to Comcast and let them know you want Boston HD channels. Call your selectmen, state reps and senators, congressmen, etc. to let them know you want to be in the Boston designated market area (DMA). Comcast can be a big help here by letting the Providence TV executives know that if they play hardball about eliminating the Boston channels, THEY could be the ones left out of the DMA. If you would like to get more involved email us at savebostonchannels@gmail.com. We are now starting a petition with the FCC to officially change the DMA for northern Bristol County to Boston.

How is the picture quality on Dish? I'm thinking about switching to DirecTV given that they're the only network who has the full NFL package.

This notice was included on the bill I received today:

Beginning 10/1, the following changes will be made to your basic HD channel lineup: WSBK-DTHD will move from channel 838 to 814, WFXT-DTHD will move from channel 825 to 806 and WLVI-DTHD will move from channel 856 to 808. These changes will be complete by 10/15.
Local broadcasters have the right to request preferential channel placement in Comcast's lineup.

Competition just got hotter:

FiOS adds 55 HD channels in Mass/RI (http://www.tvpredictions.com/verizon082508.htm)

This brings them up to 85.

The new HD channels include Animal Planet, TLC, Science Channel and Smithsonian Channel, CNN, CNBC, Lifetime, Bravo, TBS, History Channel, Weather Channel, USA and SCI Fi.

In addition, there are 11 new high-def channels from Cinemax and 13 new HD channels from HBO.

Verizon has also added the high-def edition of the Big Ten Network in the two states as well as the Versus/Golf Channel HD.

Question for City of Boston/Brookline people.

How do all those new channels the rest of us Boston-area people can't see (Fuse, Bravo, CNBC, ESPN News, BIO, IFC, WE, FX, Fox News, Big 10) stack up in terms of real HD content?

How is the picture quality on Dish? I'm thinking about switching to DirecTV given that they're the only network who has the full NFL package.

This is a Comcast thread, you should try asking your question in one of the D* ( Directv) or E*( Dish network) threads in the HD programming forum. FWIW I hear it varies on which encoder is being used ( mpeg2 or mpeg4 ) but you will get much more info about all of that over there.

Competition just got hotter:

FiOS adds 55 HD channels in Mass/RI (http://www.tvpredictions.com/verizon082508.htm)

This brings them up to 85.

Hey Bob thats good to know but have you taken over for chitchat now! :eek:

Hey Bob thats good to know but have you taken over for chitchat now! :eek:

Actually, chitchat's post would have read like this:

Competition just got hotter:

FiOS adds 55 HD channels in Mass/RI (http://www.tvpredictions.com/verizon082508.htm)

This brings us up to 85. Eat my shorts, Comcast!

:) obviously...

Thanks for your help over the years, but I'm off to FIOS. 3X the connect speed, better PQ and more HD channels.

In Bristol County WPRI-DT now on 812. Preparing us for the loss of WBZ-DT.

For those living in Bristol County, MA, particularly northern Bristol County, towns like Easton, Raynham, Mansfield, Norton and Taunton, the time is now to stand up to Comcast and let them know you want Boston HD channels. Call your selectmen, state reps and senators, congressmen, etc. to let them know you want to be in the Boston designated market area (DMA). Comcast can be a big help here by letting the Providence TV executives know that if they play hardball about eliminating the Boston channels, THEY could be the ones left out of the DMA. If you would like to get more involved email us at savebostonchannels@gmail.com. We are now starting a petition with the FCC to officially change the DMA for northern Bristol County to Boston.

I hear ya. I live in Northern Bristol County as well. While I may live about 20 or more minutes from Providence, I really don't feel the local news is relevant to me. What if a state law passes here? I will never know about it because RI stations sure as hell won't be talking about a new law in MA! I actually would be fine with the switch if the Providence locals didn't look like sh**!

This notice was included on the bill I received today:

Beginning 10/1, the following changes will be made to your basic HD channel lineup: WSBK-DTHD will move from channel 838 to 814, WFXT-DTHD will move from channel 825 to 806 and WLVI-DTHD will move from channel 856 to 808. These changes will be complete by 10/15.

Looks like they're trying to create a solid block of broadcast stations. But the numbering would indicate that the block is at least 14 stations (15 if they use 800) long. What would go in the other slots?

We all know that Comcast has to carry the digital stations of all "must carry" local broadcasters after 2/17/09. I'm not sure if all of the following are "must carry", but these are the broadcast stations in my analog lineup that I don't have in digital:

WENH-11 (PBS)
WPBX-68 (ION)
WGBX-44 (PBS)
WUNI-27 (UNI)
WZMY-50 (MyTV)
WNEU-60 (Telemundo)
WMFP-62 (IND)
WUTF-66 (Telefutura)
WYDN-48 (Daystar)

That's nine stations. We now have seven broadcast digital stations, which would indicate a total block of 16 stations.

Question for therob006 - Do you think Comcast will wait until the transition to put those nine stations up? I would think the move of WWE Smackdown from the CW to MyTV in October would make MyTV a more likely near-term add.

UPDATE Apparently, I don't actually get WSBE-36 (PBS), so I've removed it from the count (I was looking at the Comcast site, not my actual EPG).

In Bristol County WPRI-DT now on 812. Preparing us for the loss of WBZ-DT.

Yup. When I found out about this, I zipped over to Circuit City, and bought myself an indoor antenna. Weirdly, I'm using it outside, not in, because that is where the best reception for ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, and CW is. It truly blows my mind how horrible the PQ is for non prime-time programming on RI channels. WPRI-HD PQ looks like a washed out SD picture:eek:

Has anyone else noticed a problem with DD 5.1 on NESN HD? I'm getting DD 5.1 on every other HD station other than NESN... Just curious if its everyone or just me.

I think they use DD2.0 for sox road games.

I think they use DD2.0 for sox road games.

Thanks.. I'm surprised that Ive never noticed before, maybe its possible that some road games are 5.1 and some are 2.0 depending on the stadium?

I'll compare with tomorrows home game

yesterdays game was 5.1... looks like i panicked over nothing!

In Bristol County WPRI-DT now on 812. Preparing us for the loss of WBZ-DT.

Anyone watch the US Open on WPRI 812 they were showing the Open in SD while WBZ 804 was showing it in HD. We are be forced to watch WPRI and they are going to do this, time to start complaining.

Since the Olympics, only add has been Big Ten Network on 285 (SD) .No new HD yet . Is there still a message up on Ch.3 and Ch27 (MSNBC old spot in my town.) ?

Since the Olympics, only add has been Big Ten Network on 285 (SD) .No new HD yet . Is there still a message up on Ch.3 and Ch27 (MSNBC old spot in my town.) ?

I think we have all the HD we will be getting for awhile. Maybe L Supreme or someone might know differently?

I think we have all the HD we will be getting for awhile.Those of us who used to have the two HD Olympics channels obviously have space for at least two more and Comcast clearly has carriage deals in place for more channels---why haven't they filled the spots with more content?

Those of us who used to have the two HD Olympics channels obviously have space for at least two more and Comcast clearly has carriage deals in place for more channels---why haven't they filled the spots with more content?

This is only a guess on my part but if you noticed they sent those two channels in Clear QAM so they might not use those spots for other HD and it probably was a special deal made with NBC to carry them that way which they might not be able to do with other networks. They will add more but how ( QAM stuffing, SDV? ) and when ( Feb 09 ? ) remains the question.

How is the picture quality on Dish? I'm thinking about switching to DirecTV given that they're the only network who has the full NFL package.

It is great. Just got the DISH Turbo package. All MPEG-4 channels and the PQ is as good if not better than Comcast. I get more channels for less money. Easily the best tech decision of 2008 for me.

I just found out that the Digital to analog adapters (DTA) which comcast will roll out this fall will only convert clear QAM to analog, extended basic will still require a STB. Sounds like these devices are pretty useless if you ask me.

-Ken

I just found out that the Digital to analog adapters (DTA) which comcast will roll out this fall will only convert clear QAM to analog, extended basic will still require a STB. Sounds like these devices are pretty useless if you ask me.

-Ken

Thats why I think they are aimed towards the OTA crowd ahead of the transistion. Anyone coming over to cable will probably be required to at least have these.

Thats why I think they are aimed towards the OTA crowd ahead of the transistion. Anyone coming over to cable will probably be required to at least have these.

The purpose of these devices is so that comcast can fully remove analog from 20% of comcast markets by Dec.31 of this year ! I can just hear the howling of the non set top analog crowd. I thought these devices would at least pass the current extended basic which would have solved my bedroom analog problem.

-Ken

The purpose of these devices is so that comcast can fully remove analog from 20% of comcast markets by Dec.31 of this year ! I can just hear the howling of the non set top analog crowd. I thought these devices would at least pass the current extended basic which would have solved my bedroom analog problem.

-Ken

You know thats never going to happen by then and they are not mandated to do so. I think it's a lot of PR myself but I do think they will use these devices for the OTA folks and current basic only subs and then make everyone else upgrade to a STB or downgrade to one of these DTA's if they are not willing to shell out the cash. After all Comcast is a business and making money is their bottom line and I think this transition process has giving them more options to do that.

I just found out that the Digital to analog adapters (DTA) which comcast will roll out this fall will only convert clear QAM to analog, extended basic will still require a STB. Sounds like these devices are pretty useless if you ask me.

-Ken
Source?

Here's what is currently known about Comcast DTA plans. (http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6573422.html)

Source?

Here's what is currently known about Comcast DTA plans. (http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6573422.html)

"In case you’re wondering how a DTA works, there is no conditional access technology involved. All the DTA does is convert QAM signals broadcast in the clear to analog for analog subscribers."

http://connectedhome2go.com/2008/06/26/comcast-rolls-with-dtas/

This was confirmed in a conversation with Frank "comcastcares" on Twitter who said from what he understands this is correct.

-Ken

I just found out that the Digital to analog adapters (DTA) which comcast will roll out this fall will only convert clear QAM to analog, extended basic will still require a STB. Sounds like these devices are pretty useless if you ask me.

-Ken


Where did you hear/read that?

Where did you hear/read that?

see my previous post.

-Ken

To my knowledge the DTAs would work similar to cable cards. You will be able to get encrypted digital channels, but none of the 2 way functionality will not be there.

To my knowledge the DTAs would work similar to cable cards. You will be able to get encrypted digital channels, but none of the 2 way functionality will not be there.

I read on another site that Comcast doesn't want any encryption in this device as a way to get around not having to increase it's cost by including the FCC mandated cable card slot. I hear it is also rumored that when comcast starts rolling this out they may unencrypt the sub 100 channels.

-Ken

I read on another site that Comcast doesn't want any encryption in this device as a way to get around not having to increase it's cost by including the FCC mandated cable card slot. I hear it is also rumored that when comcast starts rolling this out they may unencrypt the sub 100 channels.

-Ken
They're taking my idea. Unencrypt Digital starter channels and put them within the Extended basic filter (Chs 24-69)
Of course if the box can downconvert HD channels they only need to unencrypt the HD versions :)

Has Comcast turned 5C encryption back on again? I seem to be unable to record vis firewire from ESPN, CNN, etc and only from the "OTA" stations. And that only works with live recording, nothing works at all off the DVR.

When did MHD 828 (Derry, NH) change to Palladia or whatever it's called now?

September 1st

Update to Current HD Lineup in Boston (backbay) Comcast more than 60 HD Channels

785 Encore HD
789 Fox Business News HD
790 Hallmark HD
791 QVC HD
792 Toon Disney HD
793 FUSED
794 BRAVO HD
795 CNBC HD
796 ESPN News HD
797 BIO HD
798 IFC HD
799 WE HD
800 HD PPV
802 WGBH HD
804 WBZ (CBS) HD
805 WCVB (ABC) HD
807 WHDH (NBC) HD
819 MGM HD
821 National Geo HD
822 NHL HD
823 Discovery HD
824 Disney HD
825 WFXT (Fox) HD
826 Abc Family HD
828 MHD
830 FX HD
831 TBS HD
832 HG TV HD
833 TNT HD
835 USA HD
837 A&E HD
838 WSBK ( UPN) HD
839 HDT
841 Fox News HD
842 CNN HD
845 WeatherScan HD
846 Universal HD
847 Weather Channel HD
848 Golf HD
849 ESPN HD
850 ESPN2 HD
851 NESN HD
852 Comcast Sport Network HD
853 NFL HD
854 Food HD
856 WLVI (WB) HD
857 Science HD
859 AMC HD
862 Sci Fi HD
863 Animal Planet HD
866 Science HD
867 TLC HD
868 Max HD
870 HBO HD
872 History HD
875 Starz HD
876 Starz 2 HD
877 SHOWTIME HD
878 SHOWTIME 2 HD
881 MOJO HD
883 TMC HD
885 Big 10 HD

:)


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Blue are the one added yesterday

Maybe the rest of us should open up another thread since we are having less and less in common with the Boston/Brookline system. They have almost double the HD than the rest of us and who knows when or if we will ever catch up! :(

update to current hd lineup in boston (backbay) comcast more than 60 hd channels

785 encore hd
789 fox business news hd
790 hallmark hd
791 qvc hd
792 toon disney hd
793 fused
794 bravo hd
795 cnbc hd
796 espn news hd
797 bio hd
798 ifc hd
799 we hd
800 hd ppv
802 wgbh hd
804 wbz (cbs) hd
805 wcvb (abc) hd
807 whdh (nbc) hd
819 mgm hd
821 national geo hd
822 nhl hd
823 discovery hd
824 disney hd
825 wfxt (fox) hd
826 abc family hd
828 mhd
830 fx hd
831 tbs hd
832 hg tv hd
833 tnt hd
835 usa hd
837 a&e hd
838 wsbk ( upn) hd
839 hdt
841 fox news hd
842 cnn hd
845 weatherscan hd
846 universal hd
847 weather channel hd
848 golf hd
849 espn hd
850 espn2 hd
851 nesn hd
852 comcast sport network hd
853 nfl hd
854 food hd
856 wlvi (wb) hd
857 science hd
859 amc hd
862 sci fi hd
863 animal planet hd
866 science hd
867 tlc hd
868 max hd
870 hbo hd
872 history hd
875 starz hd
876 starz 2 hd
877 showtime hd
878 showtime 2 hd
881 mojo hd
883 tmc hd
885 big 10 hd

:)


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blue are the one added yesterday

wow....the DTA adapters can't get here fast enough....

But what I don't understand is why can't they give us two new channels right now in place of the temp. olympic channels ?

Oh and yes the banner messages are still up on the two analog channels.

-Ken

Update to Current HD Lineup in Boston (backbay) Comcast more than 60 HD Channels

873 Starz 2 HD
874 Starz 4 HD
876 Starz 6 HD

added more starz hd ...

If Chitchat was in Boston,he would still be with Comcast

If Chitchat was in Boston,he would still be with Comcast

Yeah but then we would have to listen to him a lot more than we do now. His channel predictions would be out of control.

-Ken

If Chitchat was in Boston,he would still be with Comcast

Not if they tried jacking up my bill $40 a month without telling me.

wow....the DTA adapters can't get here fast enough....

But what I don't understand is why can't they give us two new channels right now in place of the temp. olympic channels ?

Oh and yes the banner messages are still up on the two analog channels.

-Ken

Talking with my friend who works in Comcast engineering, there is some technical hurdles they need to overcome to use that Olympics bandwidth. They aren't leaving us customers in the lurch, but he did say they need to do this smartly or it won't be pretty.

Talking with my friend who works in Comcast engineering, there is some technical hurdles they need to overcome to use that Olympics bandwidth. They aren't leaving us customers in the lurch, but he did say they need to do this smartly or it won't be pretty.

Can you ask your friend when they plan to take the notices off the two analog channels and redeploy as digital ?

-Ken

Can you ask your friend when they plan to take the notices off the two analog channels and redeploy as digital ?

-Ken

That he said was also part of the technical challenge. He won't go into details, but he said its not for lack of trying.

That he said was also part of the technical challenge. He won't go into details, but he said its not for lack of trying.

In other words they are probably still QAM stuffing and have not come out with the right combination of channels with the 3:1 muxing without affecting PQ. Just get rid of Expanded once and for all so we can enjoy the same HD channels that Boston has and no longer have to worry about what it might do when they add channels.

I just found out that the Digital to analog adapters (DTA) which comcast will roll out this fall will only convert clear QAM to analog, extended basic will still require a STB. Sounds like these devices are pretty useless if you ask me.Their purpose is to comply with the requirements. Pretty useful, in that regard, therefore.

Their purpose is to comply with the requirements. Pretty useful, in that regard, therefore.

Bicker,

If you had read my later replies you would have seen updated information.

-Ken

For all you HDNET lovers check out this link
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/hdnet-hdnet-movies-announce-affiliation/story.aspx?guid={FE6B66A9-B41D-4826-9A10-1E3E6A78D789}&dist=hppr

For all you HDNET lovers check out this link
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/hdnet-hdnet-movies-announce-affiliation/story.aspx?guid={FE6B66A9-B41D-4826-9A10-1E3E6A78D789}&dist=hppr

I honestly did not expect to see this day. I wonder who made the compromise.

For all you HDNET lovers check out this link
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/hdnet-hdnet-movies-announce-affiliation/story.aspx?guid={FE6B66A9-B41D-4826-9A10-1E3E6A78D789}&dist=hppr (http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/hdnet-hdnet-movies-announce-affiliation/story.aspx?guid=%7BFE6B66A9-B41D-4826-9A10-1E3E6A78D789%7D&dist=hppr)

Don't rub it in.

However had comcast had kept my package I may had stayed.

No 3:1 compression and i get 82 HD Channels NOW!

I honestly did not expect to see this day. I wonder who made the compromise.

Probably both compromised. This deal gives comcast a lot more HD "choices" to stick up on the on demand.

-Ken

Don't rub it in.

However had comcast had kept my package I may had stayed.

No 3:1 compression and i get 82 HD Channels NOW!
Chit,

It really looks like Comcast waited for you to leave and then uncorked this on you. I feel for you.

Mickey

Don't rub it in.

However had comcast had kept my package I may had stayed.

No 3:1 compression and i get 82 HD Channels NOW!

Chit,
you are way too emotional about TV. :D

But it's a good news no matter what.