Chitchat mentioned on the OTA forum that ION (channel 68) is now in HD. I suppose that will be the next (useless) HD channel added due to must carry ?

-Ken

NEVERMIND - Chitchat's info was wrong - it was just a test.

Did anyone get a message on their DVR boxes this morning?

I'll give you all the info on what it says later ( i haven't seen it yet)

Yes, it said to watch March Madness Highlites in HD OnDemand. Personally I thought another UFC fight was coming, because that is usually the only message I get.

Interesting article about the Comcast digital changeover in seattle:

http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/brierdudley/2008/12/08/some_faqs_on_comcast_digital_s.html


Q: What about TVs with QAM tuners - can they get signals directly from the cable? (NEW)

A: No. "They would need a digital adapter, a standard set top box (DCT) or a CableCard in order to view the channels," Kipp said. "The first CableCard is free with each additional CableCard costing $1.79 per month." This is because the signals will be scrambled/encrypted, and a device from Comcast is needed to descramble them.

(A caveat here: Kipp noted Thursday that Channel 25-C-Span2 is unencrypted and can be received with a QAM tuner, even without a converter device. Also unencrypted, and therefore available with just a QAM tuner in your TV, are Limited Basic channels KCTS Creates, Channel 112; KING-5 Weather Plus, Channel 115; KCPQ Accuweather, channel 116; KIRO Retro Television Network, Channel 117; KCTS V-ME, Channel 119, and "leased access" channel 79. Those network stations are also available now, for free over the air, if you have a digital tuner.) (NEW

Yes, it said to watch March Madness Highlights in HD OnDemand. Personally I thought another UFC fight was coming, because that is usually the only message I get.

Thanks for the info Kcalccal, i'm wondering when they are going to stop this nonsense with these PPV or On demand message, they are really getting annoying.

The Messages Comcast should send should be when mine (or your) area will make the DTA conversion or at least one HD channel that Comcast in houston added last year. (http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/12/17/comcast-adds-the-weather-channel-hd-in-houston-texas/)

Is that too much to ask Comcast?

Chitchat mentioned on the OTA forum that ION (channel 68) is now in HD. I suppose that will be the next (useless) HD channel added due to must carry ?

-Ken

NEVERMIND - Chitchat's info was wrong - it was just a test.

Actually I think they're supposed to put it on on March 16th.

THe must carry rule for ION HD will not apply untill June 12th.

Anyone else having problems with Center Ice channels 621-634? 635 GAMEHD is working. When I called, they said no one else had mentioned the problem

Actually I think they're supposed to put it on on March 16th.

THe must carry rule for ION HD will not apply untill June 12th.

Is the WENH-11 HD channel must carry as well or is it far enough away ?

-KEn

Is the WENH-11 HD channel must carry as well or is it far enough away ?

-KEn

11.2 is an SD version of the channel. Carriage of 11.2 is sufficent for the must carry. 11.1 is available,pretty much for the asking,though.

There will be no SD feed of 68.1,so carriage in HD is required.

Isn't the choice about which signal is the must-carry signal (when must-carry applies) left up to the broadcaster who is broadcasting more than one signal?

I would think that is kind of sad a highly requested channel (The Weather Channel HD) is getting left in the dust like this, or even MLB HD and Espnews HD for that matter.

I wish these channels would have been added by now (in which it seems bandwidth is still an issue in these parts.)

Finally i have been hearing rumors that the NFL Network (http://sportsmediawatch.blogspot.com/2009/03/comcast-customers-could-lose-nfl-net.html) would maybe be lost in April? Would this help in our HD requests in the future if the HD version disappears?

I've never seen Comcast release hard numbers on how many of their subscribers and prospective subscribers specify the lack of TWCHD as a significant concern. My guess would be that it is not as high on the list as its online fandom would indicate.

I have ZERO interest in The Weather Channel in HD, to me that is a SERIOUS waste of bandwidth.
To each his own, but I don't watch the weather channel, I flick it on for a few minutes, and it looks fine the way it is for those few minutes.

I know what you mean. I'm hard-pressed to pick out any of the HD channels not currently offered that I'd feel was anything other than a waste of bandwidth. I'd rather Comcast use freed-up bandwidth to offer better HSI service, and to reduce HD channel muxing down to 2-to-1, especially for TNT and USA.

I know what you mean. I'm hard-pressed to pick out any of the HD channels not currently offered that I'd feel was anything other than a waste of bandwidth.

Three desirables I can think of are HD-Net, HD-Net Movies and MGM-HD. And one I would shed no tears over if it were taken away is AMC-HD (which defines the term "waste of bandwidth").

sorry Muzz you feel that way about Twc, there are two distingt and noticeable differences between the SD feed and HD feed which is why i want it so bad

1. better picture and much more crisp than the SD feed ( plus no bothersome ldl at the bottom of the screen, at least not yet.)

2. the HD lf is breathtaking compared to the dull Intellistar + the HD lf has no annoying narration to drag it down and make people hate it as much as the I-star.

Like I said, to each his own, but if it were an Alacarte system, I wouldn't put TWC in HD in my package, of that I am at least 500% certain.
I don't "WATCH" TWC, I look at it for a few minutes, that's it(I'd put $500 down saying I am in the HIGH Majority on this- sorry weather freaks), so I don't want Comcast wasting resources on an HD feed, when there are items like the MUXING that has been mentioned, apparently you haven't been paying attention to that, and that lousy compression/artifacts and such that go along with it.

Nothing personal gt, but TWC in HD is almost as important as asking Rain Man to describe the shorts that he buys at K-Mart on 400 Oak St.......
Nobody cares, and as stated.......
K-Mart sux !

sorry Muzz you feel that way about Twc, there are two distingt and noticeable differences between the SD feed and HD feed which is why i want it so bad

1. better picture and much more crisp than the SD feed ( plus no bothersome ldl at the bottom of the screen, at least not yet.)

2. the HD lf is breathtaking compared to the dull Intellistar + the HD lf has no annoying narration to drag it down and make people hate it as much as the I-star.

I watch the breathtaking weather report on WCVB in HD, I also have very little interest in TWCHD.

-KEn

I watch the breathtaking weather report on WCVB in HD, I also have very little interest in TWCHD.

-KEn

Same here.

Same here.
I also think TWC is a waste.

I also think TWC is a waste.Me, too.

And to be clear, the point here isn't to crap on the PP's preference, but rather to point out that MSOs have a wide variety of subscribers, with a wide variety of perspectives, and that therefore the thing you can bank on the most is that the best decisions by MSOs will generally not please any subscriber, all the time. And human nature is such that when they do things that you think they should, those things fall to the background -- they're essentially "expected" and in your mind unworthy of note, regard or acknowledgment, while when they do things that you think they shouldn't (or don't do things that you think they should), those things have major impact on your expressed perspective, fostering ill-advised and unfounded categorical condemnations.

sorry Muzz you feel that way about Twc, there are two distingt and noticeable differences between the SD feed and HD feed which is why i want it so bad

1. better picture and much more crisp than the SD feed ( plus no bothersome ldl at the bottom of the screen, at least not yet.)

2. the HD lf is breathtaking compared to the dull Intellistar + the HD lf has no annoying narration to drag it down and make people hate it as much as the I-star.

Come on over to FIOS, TWC looks exactly as you described and is one of the
best looking HD channels I have ever seen (and that is from Fos which has well over 100 of them ). BTW, I watch it all the time and think it's great!

Come on over to FIOS, TWC looks exactly as you described and is one of the
best looking HD channels I have ever seen (and that is from Fos which has well over 100 of them ). BTW, I watch it all the time and think it's great!

I don't think any of us are questioning how good TWC looks in HD. I've seen it on FIOS and yes, it looks stunning. It's great that you watch it a lot, but I think you're probably in the minority. I can count the number of minutes I've watched TWC in the last year on two hands (maybe one). I'm not going to watch something just because it looks good. I want content; something I'm going to watch over a long period of time at one sitting (movies, programming, sports, etc.).

Truly. And I am not even just looking for content-any-content, and I doubt most people are. I think most people are looking for specific sets (plural) of content, and that taken together, there are significant trends within the general public, in that regard.

I don't think any of us are questioning how good TWC looks in HD. I've seen it on FIOS and yes, it looks stunning. It's great that you watch it a lot, but I think you're probably in the minority. I can count the number of minutes I've watched TWC in the last year on two hands (maybe one). I'm not going to watch something just because it looks good. I want content; something I'm going to watch over a long period of time at one sitting (movies, programming, sports, etc.).

If you are a weather and a HD nut like I am, it's a channel made in heaven. Don't know why that is so hard to understand for some here. And if there was no interest in it like you say, then I doubt it would still be on the air after all these years. Add to that the fact of the money they spent to convert over to HD shows there is more than a adaquate amount of viewing audience out there or they would never have bothered to do so. In conclusion you may very well be underestimating the effect this channel has if what I said above is any indication. ;)

They probably got sick of Rain Man calling the office every day moaning about the SD quality of the raindrops they saw on a storm day......:p
"The Raindrops were very sparkly....I think I need a new monster 1.3 HDMI cable...."

Nurse Ratched, I want MY Cigarettes, and I want Rain Drops and Snow in HD!! HD I tell Ya!!:mad:
7.1 DTS-HD MA or better while your at it!!:rolleyes:

If you are a weather and a HD nut like I am, it's a channel made in heaven. Don't know why that is so hard to understand for some here. And if there was no interest in it like you say, then I doubt it would still be on the air after all these years. Add to that the fact of the money they spent to convert over to HD shows there is more than a adaquate amount of viewing audience out there or they would never have bothered to do so. In conclusion you may very well be underestimating the effect this channel has if what I said above is any indication. ;)

Weather in HD...isn't that what your window is for?

I'm still asking where Comedy Central is?!?!?!?!

i'm still asking where comedy central is?!?!?!?!

bingo...... +1

Weather in HD...isn't that what your window is for?

I'm still asking where Comedy Central is?!?!?!?!

As long as you have Comcast and your system is not digital, you will be asking where many channels are. ;)

Can anyone tell me why in situations such as ours where Comcast does not have the bandwidth to add new HD channels, they don't instead make the popular show of such channels available on demand?

I know last summer they did this with the FX show Sons of Anarchy before FXHD was added here, and that seems like an acceptable compromise to keep as many customers as happy as possible until there is space for the linear channels.

Some have mentioned above that AMC is a waste, and while I do not watch the channel there are likely quite a few who would be upset that they could no longer watch Mad Men and Breaking Bad in HD. But putting those shows on demand would solve that.

What am I missing?

Can anyone tell me why in situations such as ours where Comcast does not have the bandwidth to add new HD channels, they don't instead make the popular show of such channels available on demand?

I know last summer they did this with the FX show Sons of Anarchy before FXHD was added here, and that seems like an acceptable compromise to keep as many customers as happy as possible until there is space for the linear channels.

Some have mentioned above that AMC is a waste, and while I do not watch the channel there are likely quite a few who would be upset that they could no longer watch Mad Men and Breaking Bad in HD. But putting those shows on demand would solve that.

What am I missing?



Comcast has to get permission for the stations to put content on On Demand. Everything that is On Demand has been agreed upon during negotiations with the stations. Believe it or not, Comcast is not the Keymaster, they are just the delivery boy in most situations.

Comcast has to get permission for the stations to put content on On Demand. Everything that is On Demand has been agreed upon during negotiations with the stations. Believe it or not, Comcast is not the Keymaster, they are just the delivery boy in most situations.

I realize that. It just seems when they negotiate to add a channel in markets where they have the bandwidth they might also try to work something out for the markets where they can't add the channel.

If nothing else networks would probably prefer we watch their shows on demand than with our DVRs. The 30-second skip doesn't work, you can only fast-forward at one speed. Makes the ads harder to avoid.

As long as you have Comcast and your system is not digital, you will be asking where many channels are. ;)

I'm digital, it's nothing to be jealous of. There's still a lot to want...

I'm digital, it's nothing to be jealous of. There's still a lot to want...

Maybe you do but I'm quite satisfied. I can't find the time to watch all the HD I have now. :D

I realize that. It just seems when they negotiate to add a channel in markets where they have the bandwidth they might also try to work something out for the markets where they can't add the channel.What makes you think that they don't?

If nothing else networks would probably prefer we watch their shows on demand than with our DVRs.I think you're giving some of these networks way too much credit. Beyond that, aren't VOD rights separate from linear broadcast rights? As such, this might go back behind the network, to the production companies, and perhaps even as far as the contracts with talent.

What makes you think that they don't?


Nothing. I have no idea what they try to accomplish in their negotiations, hence my question.

People here know a lot more than I do. Maybe someone with some inside knowledge would have answered with something along the lines of "Comcast actually tries very hard to do this, but networks are reluctant" or any other informative response.

It would seem Comcast is losing some number of subs to Fios and/or satellite due to the higher number of HD channels those services provide. But, as you have pointed out previously, it may well be to Comcasts benefit to be the primarily analog provided for that segment of the customer base who relies on analog cable. My simple thought was that adding more HD on demand might be a way to keep both segments somewhat placated as they work to expand their bandwidth (or slowly migrate content to digital).

Nothing. I have no idea what they try to accomplish in their negotiations, hence my question.

People here know a lot more than I do. Maybe someone with some inside knowledge would have answered with something along the lines of "Comcast actually tries very hard to do this, but networks are reluctant" or any other informative response.

It would seem Comcast is losing some number of subs to Fios and/or satellite due to the higher number of HD channels those services provide. But, as you have pointed out previously, it may well be to Comcasts benefit to be the primarily analog provided for that segment of the customer base who relies on analog cable. My simple thought was that adding more HD on demand might be a way to keep both segments somewhat placated as they work to expand their bandwidth (or slowly migrate content to digital).

It's not just the quantity of HD channels but the quality as well that plays a factor.

Also Comcast plans to go digital according to many sources which in essence regulates analog as a non factor in their business decisions.

Check out for your self

http://www.whereismyhd.com/

Just Checked Fall River Comcast and i am getting Ripped off :mad:

Averaging 4% to 50% each channel

Just Checked Fall River Comcast and i am getting Ripped off"Ripped off"? Are you saying that channels' Web sites promised a certain percentage of HD and after you signed up for that individual channel that you didn't get the percentage you were promised? Yes, that's getting ripped off.

But if you just signed up for an "HD package" and you're actually getting some HD, then I don't see how you're getting "ripped off". You did have an opportunity to find out what was in the package ahead of time, right? And you could research how much HD was actually on those channels, right?

"Ripped off"? Are you saying that channels' Web sites promised a certain percentage of HD and after you signed up for that individual channel that you didn't get the percentage you were promised? Yes, that's getting ripped off.

But if you just signed up for an "HD package" and you're actually getting some HD, then I don't see how you're getting "ripped off". You did have an opportunity to find out what was in the package ahead of time, right? And you could research how much HD was actually on those channels, right?

I've been signed up for the HD Tier for over 2 years and there are dismal choices for HD, No new channels have been added since early October:mad:

If June and July comes and there are still the same boring choices i'm going to FIOS i played the Comcast Waiting Game way too long!

If June and July comes and there are still the same boring choices i'm going to FIOS i played the Comcast Waiting Game way too long!

FIOS in Fall River !??!!? I thought that wasn't going to happen until 2012. :(

FIOS in Fall River !??!!? I thought that wasn't going to happen until 2012. :(

Sorry i wasn't clear in my other post Old_Man, I meant to say im going to move to either Mattapoisett, Lakeville or Marion to Get Fios to cure my HD fever.

I was promised 17 HD channels in Early November and was to be added December 21st, Never got them, Strike 2, i was also Promised 6 HD Channels to be added Feb 16th, Day passes and Still no new HD. waiting for strike 3.

Sorry if this was mentioned already, but I see no shows labeled as "HD" in the guide when I check any of the locals, is anyone else seeing this?

Sorry i wasn't clear in my other post Old_Man, I meant to say im going to move to either Mattapoisett, Lakeville or Marion to Get Fios to cure my HD fever.

I was promised 17 HD channels in Early November and was to be added December 21st, Never got them, Strike 2, i was also Promised 6 HD Channels to be added Feb 16th, Day passes and Still no new HD. waiting for strike 3.
Not sure what you mean by “promises”. As a rule, Comcast doesn’t guarantee specific timing for any new channel adds. Most of us here understand that the only way to know when Comcast is going to add more channels is when the channel actually appears on your TV. Everything thing else is pure speculation.

Also realize that in the long run the various providers will be playing leap-frog with each other over features such as HD channels/choices, high-speed internet download speeds, triple-play bundles, VOD, multi-room DVR’s and computer controlled remote programming. So be prepared to move from town to town accordingly.

Mickey

Not sure what you mean by “promises”. As a rule, Comcast doesn’t guarantee specific timing for any new channel adds. Most of us here understand that the only way to know when Comcast is going to add more channels is when the channel actually appears on your TV. Everything thing else is pure speculation.

Also realize that in the long run the various providers will be playing leap-frog with each other over features such as HD channels/choices, high-speed internet download speeds, triple-play bundles, VOD, multi-room DVR’s and computer controlled remote programming. So be prepared to move from town to town accordingly.

Mickey

Well i guess the Comcast reps i talked to over the phone in October and January did not know that rule Mickey

Well i guess the Comcast reps i talked to over the phone in October and January did not know that rule Mickey

Unless its in writing, nothing has been promised. The reps do have information, but they are not always informed immediately if there is a change in plans. The information is given to reps as a heads up & not really intended to be given out until a specified time, usually close to the launch date.

Wow! This is the first real case in relation to cable tv viewing where if somebody said " if you don't like it move " and somebody actually does it that I have ever heard of. :D

Hey Gt1 keeps us informed, I know you will love Fios but only you know if it's worth going through what your willing to do.

I would bet Verizon would be willing to make a commercial about your story if they ever get a wind of it because that would be saying alot about their service to say the least!

According to the wbz website, these are the primary games for our area (times approximate):

Thursday
12:15 - Butler vs. LSU
2:30 - Chanttanooga vs. Connecticut
7:15 - American vs. Villanova
10:30 - Binghamton vs. Duke

Friday
12:15 - S.F. Austin vs. Syracuse
2:30 - E. Tennessee St. vs. Pittsburgh
7:15 - USC vs. BC
10:30 - Siena vs Ohio State

Just got off a chat with a comcast rep and this is what she told me

This is something that we will be working on through out this year Alejandro but this has not started in the New England yet. We will make sure to notify you when this is being done in your area Alejandro.



Great news :mad:

Also DTA to be done for some areas of New England
Unfortunately we do not at this time. We know that a few areas will be done at a time but we do not which areas will be upgraded first. I apologize for this inconvenience.

Just got off a chat with a comcast rep and this is what she told me




Great news :mad:

Also DTA to be done for some areas of New England


Yes, like I said many posts ago. 2009 will be a very good year, just wait.

L Supreme, will the move of HSN to Ch.3 from Ch.70 open up space for more HD channels?

According to the wbz website, these are the primary games for our area (times approximate):

Thursday
12:15 - Butler vs. LSU
2:30 - Chanttanooga vs. Connecticut
7:15 - American vs. Villanova
10:30 - Binghamton vs. Duke

Friday
12:15 - S.F. Austin vs. Syracuse
2:30 - E. Tennessee St. vs. Pittsburgh
7:15 - California vs. BC
10:30 - Siena vs Ohio State
Good info. Thanks. (One correction: BC is playing USC, not California. Sorry for the nitpick.)

Mickey

Good info. Thanks. (One correction: BC is playing USC, not California. Sorry for the nitpick.)

Mickey

Thanks for catching that. Original post corrected.

L Supreme, will the move of HSN to Ch.3 from Ch.70 open up space for more HD channels?

We now have three open channels (3,66,70) so it looks like they aren't making use of the free channels until the big analog purge comes later this year.

-Ken

Yes, like I said many posts ago. 2009 will be a very good year, just wait.

Based on the fact that the philly area is next, my guess new england would be sometime around September.

-Ken

We now have three open channels (3,66,70) so it looks like they aren't making use of the free channels until the big analog purge comes later this year.

-Ken

HSN moved from 70 to 3... I'm sure they have plans for these channels. I wouldn't rule out that they are holding on to some space for the June DTV transition.

Based on the fact that the philly area is next, my guess new england would be sometime around September.

-Ken
Although I really have no idea, I wouldn't assume that they will continue to do transitions one region at a time. My guess is that the transition will gather steam during the year.

Mickey

*I finally got a very important message on my Moto DCH 3416 HD/DVR Box*

"In spite of our efforts to continue carrying NFLN/NFLNHD, NFL may terminate our rights. As a result These Networks may be removed as soon as 5/1/09"

Yay! maybe more room for at least 2-3 HD channels in May?

Losing the NFL Network will be the last straw for me. I don't care how "big" 2009 is for Comcast. Already overpaying for inferior HD selection - the only reason I'm staying is to avoid $150 early term fee that expires 2/2010.

If anyone with any authority from Comcast reads this - enough already!

we have an expanded basic cable line thats been online since we moved to our house (3 years ago), today i hooked up my LCD and scanned the cable/unencrypted QAM band

It found a whopping 63 analog channels and 43 digital channels, for digital, mostly the locals in 1080i/720p HD, a couple of religious channels, city access, some spanish channels, PPV on demand previews (SD), a hillbilly channel and LOADS of those shopping channels and all SD duplicates of the locals (pointless IMO ?).

I was dissapointed I didn't get any music choice channels, I thought they didn't scramble those.

Comcast said there was no service active for this house, but the line is still working. Maybe it's tied in with a splitter on the pole?

No box btw, direct connection.

we have an expanded basic cable line thats been online since we moved to our house (3 years ago), today i hooked up my LCD and scanned the cable/unencrypted QAM band

It found a whopping 63 analog channels and 43 digital channels, for digital, mostly the locals in 1080i/720p HD, a couple of religious channels, city access, some spanish channels, PPV on demand previews (SD), a hillbilly channel and LOADS of those shopping channels and all SD duplicates of the locals (pointless IMO ?).

I was dissapointed I didn't get any music choice channels, I thought they didn't scramble those.
Comcast said there was no service active for this house, but the line is still working. Maybe it's tied in with a splitter on the pole?
No box btw, direct connection.

All encrypted - it would be nice if you could pickup what you payed for by connecting directly into the TV.

WBZ HD quality was BAD. pic was x10 blurry then Over the air. OTA quality is way better.

Anyone else in the Boston area experienceing problems with the Guide on Moto Boxes with TiVO? Mine is stuck on 2:30PM and on the HD ONLY channels.

Anyone else in the Boston area experienceing problems with the Guide on Moto Boxes with TiVO? Mine is stuck on 2:30PM and on the HD ONLY channels.

Not me. There is a know issue about it saying "To Be Announced" on all channels though.

I'd try rebooting the box.

we have an expanded basic cable line thats been online since we moved to our house (3 years ago), today i hooked up my LCD and scanned the cable/unencrypted QAM band

It found a whopping 63 analog channels and 43 digital channels, for digital, mostly the locals in 1080i/720p HD, a couple of religious channels, city access, some spanish channels, PPV on demand previews (SD), a hillbilly channel and LOADS of those shopping channels and all SD duplicates of the locals (pointless IMO ?).

I was dissapointed I didn't get any music choice channels, I thought they didn't scramble those.

Comcast said there was no service active for this house, but the line is still working. Maybe it's tied in with a splitter on the pole?

No box btw, direct connection.

And your point is?

I was curious to see what I could find in the QAM band. No need for the snarky response.

I won't be coming back to this site anymore. To many rude people on here.

You should have said that from the beginning and you would have gotten the appropriate response.

I found your post more opinionated than anything else and didn't understand what you were looking for, that is why I asked.

Oh well, thanks for visiting!

Are there any good promotions available right now? I just came off 12 months on a special rate for Digital Starter. I need a new special. I have canceled this week, but would be willing to reup if I can get a good deal.

I just read over at Radio info.com that Comcast will add WSBE_HD on 819 in Southeast Mass. And a SD sub-channel on 294. Hope that WGBH-HD on 802 and the 3 subchannels from GBX44 will not be going away from Southeast mass.

Are there any good promotions available right now? I just came off 12 months on a special rate for Digital Starter. I need a new special. I have canceled this week, but would be willing to reup if I can get a good deal.

Last year when my friend couldn't get any deal with the Comcast people on the phone, I had him email Frank Eliason's group. They were able to put him back into a promotional plan. Give them a try by emailing We_Can_Help@cable.comcast.com . My triple play $129 comes up in June, I hope they can help me then as well.

-Ken

Wow, not a single post in 5 days? Is everyone getting along with Comcast all of a sudden?

DirecTV to make Sunday Ticket available to non-subscribers

DirecTV customers will continue to have access to the NFL's Sunday Ticket package for six more years after the league signed a extension with the satellite TV provider to carry its nationwide TV package through 2014. The deal is worth $1 billion per year, up from the $700 million annual value of the previous deal.

Sunday Ticket broadcasts all NFL games on Sunday afternoons, so viewers can see more than the games available in their local market.

For the first time, however, those without access to DirecTV will also be able to purchase Sunday Ticket packages.

DirecTV will sell its "Red Zone channel" to consumers via other cable, satellite and internet systems. The Red Zone channel cuts among all games in progress and highlights games in which teams are poised to score.

Also, those without access to DirecTV will be able to buy a version of Sunday Ticket for the first time via broadband.

NFL VP of media Steve Bornstein indicated the expansion to carriers other than DirecTV could be part of an effort to get wider distribution for the NFL Network. "This is a great opportunity for Big Cable to sit down and talk about a better relationship with the NFL," Bornstein said to the New York Times.

The new options won't come right away, however. The NFL said they will be in place by the 2012 season.

Lack of availability to DirecTV, which depends on a small satellite facing the southern sky, has long been a frustration to fans not connected to the home market of their favorite team.

DirecTV has owned the rights to the Sunday Ticket package since 1994.

Posted by Sean Leahy at 06:25 PM/ET, March 23, 2009

Will this (Red Zone channel and Sunday Ticket via broadband) be coming to Comcast? By September 2009?
Will the Ouji board please send me a sign? (one *cough* for 'Yes') :D

Will this (Red Zone channel and Sunday Ticket via broadband) be coming to Comcast? By September 2009?
Will the Ouji board please send me a sign? (one *cough* for 'Yes') :D
I think it states in the article that Red Zone won't be coming to cable until around 2012. Any my guess is that will be part of a subscription/premium service.

Mickey

Wow, not a single post in 5 days? Is everyone getting along with Comcast all of a sudden?

Actually everybody who can (except for Bicker) is switching to Fios :)

Actually everybody who can (except for Bicker) is switching to FiosIf you're such a FIOS fan, why do you participate in the Comcast forum? Just to be negative?

If you're such a FIOS fan, why do you participate in the Comcast forum? Just to be negative?

If FioS has the two year lock in of $99 for their triple play when Fios comes to Chelmsford (1-2 Years for the build) I will be gone.

-Ken

If FioS has the two year lock in of $99 for their triple play when Fios comes to Chelmsford (1-2 Years for the build) I will be gone.

-Ken
if FIOS ever comes to NH :D (YA Right) thanks verizon for selling out to Fairpoint.
i would have been gone too.

if FIOS ever comes to NH :D (YA Right) thanks verizon for selling out to Fairpoint.
i would have been gone too.

Thank your elected Gov for driving Verizon out of our state with taxation threats. Verizon simply threw in the towel in this sparsely populated state.

Is it just me, or does it seem the posters on this forum are mainly comprised of those who are unhappy with Comcast? Its a shame people only complain publicly but never publicly praise.

I am a 10 year Comcast subscriber and I have no complaints. I have more HD than I can watch, 2 dual tuner DVRs because I watch so much, and everything else I can get through them.

Is it just me, or does it seem the posters on this forum are mainly comprised of those who are unhappy with Comcast? Its a shame people only complain publicly but never publicly praise.

I am a 10 year Comcast subscriber and I have no complaints. I have more HD than I can watch, 2 dual tuner DVRs because I watch so much, and everything else I can get through them.

I've found it's the nature of forums or review sites. Most times, people post because they're unhappy and will go out of their way to log on, type something up, and post it. If someone is happy with something and it never causes problems, he typically won't go out of his way to post something on a site like this.

I've been with Comcast for almost 9 years while living here and there around Boston. For the most part, I am happy with them. Sure, their pricing could be a little more competitive and I'd love the HD channel selection that Boston gets, but I just go with it. Most issues have been resolved quickly. I can't get FIOS where I live, so I just go with what I can get.

Is it just me, or does it seem the posters on this forum are mainly comprised of those who are unhappy with Comcast?Satisfied customers are routinely antagonized by some posters, online, and only those with the thickest skins routinely post their perspectives. I'm sure that scares many of the others away. However, beyond that, as tennberg indicated, the general public is typically pre-disposed to complain about large companies that provide them service. It is in the nature of a consumer to ignore the realities of the commercial relationship they have, and just figure that they're getting screwed, no matter what.

Also, satisfied customers are busy watching television. :)

Is it just me, or does it seem the posters on this forum are mainly comprised of those who are unhappy with Comcast? Its a shame people only complain publicly but never publicly praise.

I am a 10 year Comcast subscriber and I have no complaints. I have more HD than I can watch, 2 dual tuner DVRs because I watch so much, and everything else I can get through them.

I'm relatively happy with Comcast. I'd like it to cost less of course. :D My only real compliant is the limited choices as to how channels are bundled together for purchase. I don't think true "a la carte" is feasible, but breaking up the "expanded basic" into more reasonable tiers would be nice. But it's reliable and once we get this next wave of HD channels I think I'll have access to 99% of what I want.

Comcast is no different than any other dominant player. Yah, I'm pissed that the govt drove Verizon with its competing FIOS service out of NH thereby removing any serious competitive pricing, but there are more HD channels and programs on any TV provider than I need to waste time watching.

My ideal provider would offer a la carte services since I watch only about a dozen channels. Maybe someday.

As with anything, it's the good, the bad, and the ugly!

You can be happy overall but that should not stop you from complaining if there is a legitimate reason to do so.

Comcast is not the perfect provider, but they are big enough to handle whatever is thrown at them and in most cases they will correct the problem if it is required. Where they don't is where you run into the more vocal respondents who tend to look for places to vent and this very forum provides that opportunity whether people like it or not. ;)

FWIW, I did a Comcast channel scan on QAM (SE Mass/Providence DMA) and this is the latest digital SD and HD channel map. Omitted are most of the religious and shopping channels. Still no CBS HD for Boston or Providence available (4.1 or 12.1).

Comcast Digital Channels
Southeast MA/Providence RI


2.2 Ch 2 BOS WGBH 1080i PBS
5.1 Ch 5 BOS WCVB 1080i ABC
10.1 Ch 10 WJAR 1080i NBC
10.2 WJAR 480i
28.1 Ch 28 CW28 PVD 1080i WLWC
44.2 WGBH 480i PBS
44.3 WGBH 480i PBS
44.4 WGBH 480i PBS
64.1 Ch WNAC PVD 720p FOX
74.3 480i BET
75.102 Ch 6 WLNE PVD 720p ABC
77.6 Ch 8 480i NECN
82.1 Ch 2 BOS WBGH 480i
82.2 Ch 38 BOS WBZ 480i CBS
82.3 Ch 5 480i
82.4 Ch 7 480i
82.7 Ch 25 480i Fox
82.9 Ch 38 480i
82.1 BBC 480i
82.12 CW56 480i
83.2 Ch 480i
83.3 Ch 10 480i
83.4 chan 12 480i
83.5 ?? 480i
83.6 480i PBS
83.7 ION 480i
83.8 WLWC 480i
83.9 ?? 480i
104.1 ?? 480i
122.3 Comcast 480i

Does anyone know if we could see tru2way enabled in the Boston comcast zone prior to the July 1 committment?

Can someone please post a link to the press release where Comcast made a July 1 commitment to tru2way? I must have missed it.

Can someone please post a link to the press release where Comcast made a July 1 commitment to tru2way? I must have missed it.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/161959-CES_2009_Comcast_TWC_To_Flip_Tru2way_Switch_By_July_1.php

Here's a link, from that article, even more directly to the point:

http://www.multichannel.com/article/133646-Tracking_Tru2Way_Believers.php

One thing that we need to keep in mind, for the future, is this:There's also a “sunset” provision that ends the operators' obligation to support tru2way if CE makers ship fewer than 500,000 tru2way-based devices over the course of any 24-month period after July 1, 2009.

Cox is adding 5 more HD channels in Rhode Island. Where is Comcast?

Cox is adding 5 more HD channels in Rhode Island. Where is Comcast?
I think they call it.....Comcast Town.

Mickey

FWIW, I did a Comcast channel scan on QAM (SE Mass/Providence DMA) and this is the latest digital SD and HD channel map. Omitted are most of the religious and shopping channels. Still no CBS HD for Boston or Providence available (4.1 or 12.1).

Comcast Digital Channels
Southeast MA/Providence RI


2.2 Ch 2 BOS WGBH 1080i PBS
5.1 Ch 5 BOS WCVB 1080i ABC
10.1 Ch 10 WJAR 1080i NBC
10.2 WJAR 480i
28.1 Ch 28 CW28 PVD 1080i WLWC
44.2 WGBH 480i PBS
44.3 WGBH 480i PBS
44.4 WGBH 480i PBS
64.1 Ch WNAC PVD 720p FOX
74.3 480i BET
75.102 Ch 6 WLNE PVD 720p ABC
77.6 Ch 8 480i NECN
82.1 Ch 2 BOS WBGH 480i
82.2 Ch 38 BOS WBZ 480i CBS
82.3 Ch 5 480i
82.4 Ch 7 480i
82.7 Ch 25 480i Fox
82.9 Ch 38 480i
82.1 BBC 480i
82.12 CW56 480i
83.2 Ch 480i
83.3 Ch 10 480i
83.4 chan 12 480i
83.5 ?? 480i
83.6 480i PBS
83.7 ION 480i
83.8 WLWC 480i
83.9 ?? 480i
104.1 ?? 480i
122.3 Comcast 480i

Can someone from the boston suburban area tell me if NECN and BBC and BET are in the clear as listed below from this gent in Rhode Island ? I dont want to rescan unless necessary.

Thanks,

Ken

How do i reboot or refresh the box? I have 2 recordings that won't delete and i wanna start the box over.

Anyone know the status of MLB HD in the Boston area??

How do i reboot or refresh the box? I have 2 recordings that won't delete and i wanna start the box over.

Unplug the box for 30 seconds and replug it in.

The guide will take a few hours to restore itself to the full 2 weeks. Fios does it in a matter of minutes :)

If you're such a FIOS fan, why do you participate in the Comcast forum? Just to be negative?

I have had comcast (and/or its predecessors (ATT Cable/Media One/Continetal) pretty much since the days when WWOR, WPIX, and HBO were the only "Cable" channels.

Fios may be better but Comcast is still pretty good.

I watch the other thread. I cannot wait to see his posts turn from glowing to glaring, there. :D

I know an old post but 8 months late I'm still GLOWING!

Comcast: 41 or so

FIOS: 107

Wait until your first billing catastrophe.

Wait until your first billing catastrophe.

Their billing is AWFUL, at least Comcast doesn't screw that up.

Here's a link, from that article, even more directly to the point:

http://www.multichannel.com/article/133646-Tracking_Tru2Way_Believers.php

One thing that we need to keep in mind, for the future, is this:

AVS tru2way thread if anyone's interested:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=893485

I'm sure it should gain some steam over the next couple of months as we get closer to the July 1 launch.

Their billing is AWFUL, at least Comcast doesn't screw that up.

Oh yeah?

Why do you think I switched?

Oh yeah?

Why do you think I switched?

I don't know, maybe the over 60+ HD channels, the better PQ, and the faster IS! :D

Channel 818>>To be announced, anyone hear anything bout this.

818 looks like MLB HD in Boston; came in around 12:30 last night.

818 looks like MLB HD in Boston; came in around 12:30 last night.

Is this part of extended basic?

Interesting report from local website on one user's troubles with Comcast TiVo:

http://www.examiner.com/x-5622-Boston-Gadgets-Examiner%7Ey2009m3d28-Comcasts-TiVo-boxes-experiencing-problems-here-in-Boston-lately

I don't know, maybe the over 60+ HD channels, the better PQ, and the faster IS! :D

I'm not complaining about Comcast, I'm in the Boston zone :)

818 looks like MLB HD in Boston; came in around 12:30 last night.

I have 818 MLBHD in Chelmsford as well.

-Ken

I'm not complaining about Comcast, I'm in the Boston zone :)

Yeah but chitchat isn't and that is who I was responding to but thanks anyway for letting us know how you feel.

BTW I'm not complaining either. ;)

Would those Comcast HD Choices on VOD make room for more HD Channels if they ever got deleted for good?

Would those Comcast HD Choices on VOD make room for more HD Channels if they ever got deleted for good?

Comcast is NEVER going to get rid of HD VOD. This is one area of differentiation that they have over satellite. The fact is that VOD does add value, maybe not to you but it does. I watched some Smithsonian HD on demand last night.

-KEn

Comcast is NEVER going to get rid of HD VOD. This is one area of differentiation that they have over satellite. The fact is that VOD does add value, maybe not to you but it does. I watched some Smithsonian HD on demand last night.

-KEn

Smithsonian HD is one of my most watched channels on Fios. Comcast would be wise to add it on systems they are able to.

I have 818 MLBHD in Chelmsford as well.

-Ken

I don't have it here on the South Shore, but it would be nice to get. The only thing to report here regarding the 800s is that WSBE, the Rhode Island PBS station, is now listed as being on 819 but nothing actually appears on that channel but a blank screen.

I don't have it here on the South Shore, but it would be nice to get. The only thing to report here regarding the 800s is that WSBE, the Rhode Island PBS station, is now listed as being on 819 but nothing actually appears on that channel but a blank screen.

Yep Same here just a black screen

I'm not sure how new these channels are, but in Boston we are seeing:

855 - SPIKE HD
856 - CBS Sports Network HD

Competition coming to Chelmsford !

http://www.wickedlocal.com/chelmsford/homepage/x1525912592/Selectmen-grant-Verizon-a-license

I'm not sure how new these channels are, but in Boston we are seeing:

855 - SPIKE HD
856 - CBS Sports Network HD

Where you at?? seeing nothing here in cambridge.

No 818 -MLBHD in Bristol County yet. Have added 819 WSBE-HD RI PBS plus its subchannel on 294.

Where you at?? seeing nothing here in cambridge.

He said he was in Boston!

Competition coming to Chelmsford !

http://www.wickedlocal.com/chelmsford/homepage/x1525912592/Selectmen-grant-Verizon-a-license

Ken maybe by then Comcast will have it's act together and you will not have any need to switch! :D

Just started getting Maine PBS (WMEA HD) in SE N.H. on 812. Why we get Boston (WGBH HD) and Maine PBS HD, but not NH PBS HD is a mystery to me.

Ken maybe by then Comcast will have it's act together and you will not have any need to switch! :D

I need to save money, I will take the fios intro offer especially if its as good as it is now, two years triple play guaranteed for $99 per month.

Just started getting Maine PBS (WMEA HD) in SE N.H. on 812. Why we get Boston (WGBH HD) and Maine PBS HD, but not NH PBS HD is a mystery to me.

Another useless HD channel! Thanks for nothing Comcast. Satellite is looking better and better every day.

Where you at?? seeing nothing here in cambridge.

I don't believe Cambridge is in the Boston zone.

In case we've picked up some new readers lately, let me reiterate that the City of Boston and Brookline have about twice as many HD channels as the rest of the "Boston DMA" due to their requiring boxes for Extended Basic. Comcast is rolling out a little device nationwide (called a DTA) which will also free up that analog bandwidth (analog cable customers will have to install one in order to keep viewing non-Basic channels). This rollout will not finish until sometime in 2010 (hopefully we won't have to wait that long). Do not expect much of anything in the way of new HD channels until the device rolls out in your town - after that, expect a deluge.

Last year when my friend couldn't get any deal with the Comcast people on the phone, I had him email Frank Eliason's group. They were able to put him back into a promotional plan. Give them a try by emailing We_Can_Help@cable.comcast.com . My triple play $129 comes up in June, I hope they can help me then as well.

-Ken

Thanks for your response. Will do as you suggest.

-Mo

in search of The Weather Channel HD again for Bristol co and all of Massachusetts
i talked to 6 different comcast reps (3 online, two in person, and one over the phone) the three online did not know what TWC HD was. the two i met at the local comcast office said totally different things, the first one said they have to get clearance by the weather channel to broadcast it, and the other said it is coming in august. finally the one on the phone said not in 2009. this is my last straw i'm cancelling cable.

in search of The Weather Channel HD again for Bristol co and all of Massachusetts
i talked to 6 different comcast reps (3 online, two in person, and one over the phone) the three online did not know what TWC HD was. the two i met at the local comcast office said totally different things, the first one said they have to get clearance by the weather channel to broadcast it, and the other said it is coming in august. finally the one on the phone said not in 2009. this is my last straw i'm cancelling cable.

OMG <end>

Enjoying TWC-HD on channel 619! :)

Because of the locals on the 8s TWC-SD is the only SD simulcast I have in my favorites.

in search of The Weather Channel HD again for Bristol co and all of Massachusetts
i talked to 6 different comcast reps (3 online, two in person, and one over the phone) the three online did not know what TWC HD was. the two i met at the local comcast office said totally different things, the first one said they have to get clearance by the weather channel to broadcast it, and the other said it is coming in august. finally the one on the phone said not in 2009. this is my last straw i'm cancelling cable.

I don't get it !!!! What is it with Comcast, just tell the people when there area can expect the digital change over. Enough of this BS.

I don't get it !!!! What is it with Comcast, just tell the people when there area can expect the digital change over. Enough of this BS.

Nothing is set in stone. the launch schedule of an area can change. You will know at least 30 days prior to channels being moved. The reps only will know a few days before you.

In case we've picked up some new readers lately, let me reiterate that the City of Boston and Brookline have about twice as many HD channels as the rest of the "Boston DMA" due to their requiring boxes for Extended Basic. Comcast is rolling out a little device nationwide (called a DTA) which will also free up that analog bandwidth (analog cable customers will have to install one in order to keep viewing non-Basic channels). This rollout will not finish until sometime in 2010 (hopefully we won't have to wait that long). Do not expect much of anything in the way of new HD channels until the device rolls out in your town - after that, expect a deluge.

I assume Boston and Brookline pay roughly the same for their channel tiers/HD service that I do here in Medford?

That is my one complaint about Comcast, though I try to not throw up my arms too often. I can't get FiOS in my building, so I have to go with Comcast (and I pay a good deal each month for what I get). Yet someone paying roughly the same I do each month who lives only 2 miles from me gets twice the HD content, if not more.

I can only hope Comcast is on the fast-track to getting the bandwidth freed up in the towns surrounding Boston.

Yet someone paying roughly the same I do each month who lives only 2 miles from me gets twice the HD content, if not more.Which shows the market value of the HD content that you're missing, i.e., practically nothing.

Which shows the market value of the HD content that you're missing, i.e., practically nothing.

That's a good point, bicker. Maybe "nothing" is a little too small a number but not far away from the true value.

Nothing is set in stone. the launch schedule of an area can change. You will know at least 30 days prior to channels being moved. The reps only will know a few days before you.

Comcast should of at least let it's customer's know when a change is coming i did not get any notices since last August (which is another reason i canceled.)

At least keep your remaining customers informed on these DTA rollouts and when a certain change is coming i never got that memo when i was a High paying customer. :mad:

i was paying $330 a month (last bill before i canceled $354 a month) for an HD lineup that only had 2 channels in Full HD that's kind of sad don't you think? plus 4 HD-DVR boxes and 3 HDTV's ready just to watch these bland channels. Alot of math ain't it?

Comcast should of at least let it's customer's know when a change is coming i did not get any notices since last August (which is another reason i canceled.)

At least keep your remaining customers informed on these DTA rollouts and when a certain change is coming i never got that memo when i was a High paying customer. :mad:


Just an FYI, there has only been one area that has begun the DTA rollout & since it wasn't yours customers there were not notified. Notifications will be sent out based on the area that is being launched. This is a big change and there will be numerous notifications since it impacts a large customer base. We want to do it little by little to be able to support the demand for DTAs, digital boxes and the amount of calls coming in.

MLB Network HD (Channel 818 in Cambridge, MA) is showing up as not authorized for me. I have the digital starter package. Is this channel included in digital starter?

MLB Network HD (Channel 818 in Cambridge, MA) is showing up as not authorized for me. I have the digital starter package. Is this channel included in digital starter?

You need Digital Preferred

Just an FYI, there has only been one area that has begun the DTA rollout & since it wasn't yours customers there were not notified. Notifications will be sent out based on the area that is being launched. This is a big change and there will be numerous notifications since it impacts a large customer base. We want to do it little by little to be able to support the demand for DTAs, digital boxes and the amount of calls coming in.

Thanks for the info L Supreme, i'm sorry to take out my anger on this forum it's just i could not wait any longer.

Thanks for the info L Supreme, i'm sorry to take out my anger on this forum it's just i could not wait any longer.

For that amount of money, I would have left a long time ago! :eek:

Comcast should of at least let it's customer's know when a change is coming i did not get any notices since last August (which is another reason i canceled.) At least keep your remaining customers informed on these DTA rollouts and when a certain change is coming i never got that memo when i was a High paying customer. :mad:I think the problem is that way too many mass-market consumers are cry babies, and simply cannot fathom the idea that information provided can be "subject to change". Any time any company tentatively says that something is planned for deployment in (for example) "fourth quarter 2007", you get a ridiculous number of consumers complaining when it isn't deployed in that time-frame. (Heck, you even have some yahoos complaining that it isn't yet deployed at the beginning of the quarter [triple-roll-eyes].) I believe that the utter lack of perspective and maturity (for lack of a better word) on the part of the mass-market, itself, is the reason why so many companies refuse to promises anything in advance anymore, until they're just about ready to flick the switch.

This is not just a service-provider thing either: I think this is one reason why companies like Cisco and Motorola won't offer their DVRs for sale to the general public.

FYI for NESN's Bruins & Red Sox viewers, NESNplus is returning to Comcast on HD channel 817 and SD channel 81. This channel will air each team's game when both are playing at the same time. In the past, one team was bumped to SD-only on the old CN8 channel, so the addition of a 2nd, temporary, HD channel is a big bonus this year.

http://www.nesn.com/content/shows/nesnplus/default.aspx

NESN Programming Note - NESNplus HD
On April 12th, NESN will, for the first time, deliver simultaneous high definition (HD) coverage of the Red Sox and Bruins when both teams play at the same time. The Red Sox (3:30 PM) and Bruins (5:00 PM) are both scheduled to play late afternoon regular season games on April 12th and NESN will deliver coverage of both games in both standard and high definition with the Red Sox – Angels game available on NESN and NESNHD and the Bruins – Islanders game available on NESNplus and NESNplus HD channels.

NESNplus and NESNplus HD are a compilation of channels that distributors provide NESN to carry simultaneous coverage of Red Sox and Bruins games.

In most Comcast communities, the Bruins – Islanders game NESNplus feed will be on channel 81 and the NESNplus HD feed on channel 817. A complete list of NESNplus and NESNplus HD channels can be found at NESN.com.

When the Bruins playoff broadcast schedule is announced, NESN.com will provide updates on a game-by-game basis regarding which game will be available on NESNplus and NESNplus HD channels and on which channels fans can find the game through their local provider.

In case we've picked up some new readers lately, let me reiterate that the City of Boston and Brookline have about twice as many HD channels as the rest of the "Boston DMA" due to their requiring boxes for Extended Basic. Comcast is rolling out a little device nationwide (called a DTA) which will also free up that analog bandwidth (analog cable customers will have to install one in order to keep viewing non-Basic channels). This rollout will not finish until sometime in 2010 (hopefully we won't have to wait that long). Do not expect much of anything in the way of new HD channels until the device rolls out in your town - after that, expect a deluge.

Thanks. I have checking back to this thread periodically and the status appears to be the same. Is there a schedule posted of when the DTA rollout could potentially hit particular towns/areas? Apologies if this was already posted somewhere.

Is there a schedule posted of when the DTA rollout could potentially hit particular towns/areas?My understanding is that the answer is 'no'; plans like that aren't made public until just before they come to fruition.

My understanding is that the answer is 'no'; plans like that aren't made public until just before they come to fruition.

Only for the simple reason to saves subs and nothing else! Keeping the customer guessing if they are next will make them hesitant from switching providers which works in their favor in the long run. However for those that tired of this waiting game such as myself, say screw it and change anyways! :D

FYI for NESN's Bruins & Red Sox viewers, NESNplus is returning to Comcast on HD channel 817 and SD channel 81. This channel will air each team's game when both are playing at the same time. In the past, one team was bumped to SD-only on the old CN8 channel, so the addition of a 2nd, temporary, HD channel is a big bonus this year.

http://www.nesn.com/content/shows/nesnplus/default.aspx

That is great news! They really got an ear full from last years fiasco when they put one of the B's playoff games on an SD channel that many did not get while a very early reg season Sox's game was put on NESN and NESN-HD. So I'm sure they learned their lesson!

MLB Network HD (Channel 818 in Cambridge, MA) is showing up as not authorized for me. I have the digital starter package. Is this channel included in digital starter?

I'm in Somerville and this channel doesn't exist at all for me (as in not in the guide and can't be tuned to). I've been under the assumption Cambridge and Somerville always had the same channel lineup. Can some other people weigh in on where this channel is and is not available?

I'm in Somerville and this channel doesn't exist at all for me (as in not in the guide and can't be tuned to). I've been under the assumption Cambridge and Somerville always had the same channel lineup. Can some other people weigh in on where this channel is and is not available?

It is NOT available in the Cohasset, Hingham, Weymouth area of the South Shore.:(
I believe members from Boston, Chelmsford, and Cambridge have reported receiving MLB HD on 818.:)
ALL of our friends with Fios DO get it.:mad:

It is NOT available in the Cohasset, Hingham, Weymouth area of the South Shore.:(
I believe members from Boston, Chelmsford, and Cambridge have reported receiving MLB HD on 818.:)
ALL of our friends with Fios DO get it.:mad:

You have to remember there are limitations on most Comcast's systems. They may be able to add a channel on some but not on others. I'm sure when they roll out the DTA's in your area you will be able to get them all, the only question is when. FIOS does not have this problem and can add any channel they want, hence why they get MLB and many others!

New channel in Concord NH: 817. Appears to be something hockey related as it says (graphic) Bruins vs Islanders, NESN Plus channels, Sunday April 12th 4:30pm

Channel has audio, but only a static image with the above info.

New channel in Concord NH: 817. Appears to be something hockey related as it says (graphic) Bruins vs Islanders, NESN Plus channels, Sunday April 12th 4:30pm

Channel has audio, but only a static image with the above info.

This is the NESN "over flow" channel from when both the Sox and Bruins are on.

-Ken

That is great news! They really got an ear full from last years fiasco when they put one of the B's playoff games on an SD channel that many did not get while a very early reg season Sox's game was put on NESN and NESN-HD. So I'm sure they learned their lesson!

NESN's website says Verizon customers (among others) will not get NESNplus in HD due to "technical limitations". Surprised that Verizon is trying to be the champ of HD yet can't squeeze in an extra HD channel for a few hours.

Glad to see NESN stepping up and broadcasting the Bruins in HD, even if not every carrier is going to be showing it.

Just an FYI, there has only been one area that has begun the DTA rollout & since it wasn't yours customers there were not notified. Notifications will be sent out based on the area that is being launched. This is a big change and there will be numerous notifications since it impacts a large customer base. We want to do it little by little to be able to support the demand for DTAs, digital boxes and the amount of calls coming in.

I currently don't have an HDTV, nor a cable box. I hope to have a HDTV by the fall though, and will bite the bullet on paying for a box at the same time.

That said, here in NH, I'll note that my local CSR told me to expect the change over "by the end of the year". My question to those in Boston who previously did not have a box, but had extended basic, did Comcast change your pricing (i.e. charging you for the box to receive extended basic on all your outlets)?

Even when we have the HDTV, I don't see us paying for boxes for the other SDTV's in the house... I'll be more than a bit annoyed if I get zinged $6.95 to add a box, that adds no content to my current service on those other TV's!

Pat E

In Boston, it was either get a box on the set or the most you'd get would be Basic. There were promos for boxes for free for a year.

With this change, DTA will either be free or $1.99 per device. Regular digital boxes will be $6.95, but they will have more features & channels than a DTA. Ultimately it depends on the amount of equipment you have. If you want, tell me how many TVs you have & I can give you a ballpark figure of what the equipment costs would be.

New channel in Concord NH: 817. Appears to be something hockey related as it says (graphic) Bruins vs Islanders, NESN Plus channels, Sunday April 12th 4:30pm

Channel has audio, but only a static image with the above info.

Speaking of audio - has anyone else noticed that during live gameplay, the center and rear audio channels from NESN-HD are being cut (so it's just stereo)? However, the NESN-HD+ channel seems to have full surround of the same audio. I noticed this last night with the B's/Habs game, and now again with the Sox. From what i remember of the B's game, the full surround came back after the game in the "overtime" segment (wasn't paying attention between periods). I only noticed it with the Sox tonite after the game started so i'll see what happens after...


EDIT: welp, game over and no change and into the 1st segment of SportsDesk. Also just noticed that the 'lil audio icon in the guide lists NESN as just D (Dolby of course) and NESN+ as D5.1 so oviously there is a difference for some reason. *shrug*

Looks like Newburyport is one of the first to have extended basic migrated to digital only:

http://www.newburyportnews.com/puopinion/local_story_099233913.html

-Ken

NESN's website says Verizon customers (among others) will not get NESNplus in HD due to "technical limitations". Surprised that Verizon is trying to be the champ of HD yet can't squeeze in an extra HD channel for a few hours.

Glad to see NESN stepping up and broadcasting the Bruins in HD, even if not every carrier is going to be showing it.

Whats worst is that they just added the YES network to our system. Find it hard to believe they can't put the NESN-Plus channel in HD but can add that garbage station. Must be a Yankee's Fan or New Yorker running things! :mad:

Anyhow, I'll just watch it on my Comcast TV. :)

Whats worst is that they just added the YES network to our system. Find it hard to believe they can't put the NESN-Plus channel in HD but can add that garbage station. Must be a Yankee's Fan or New Yorker running things! :mad:

Anyhow, I'll just watch it on my Comcast TV. :)

They just added Yes network to comcast in New England ?

-Ken

Must be a Yankee's Fan or New Yorker running things! :mad:



Well, Verizon headquarters are based out of New York.

Well, Verizon headquarters are based out of New York.

Oh, it's Verizon....I was getting excited for a minute there!

Well, Verizon headquarters are based out of New York.

Well, that answers it then!

Looks like Newburyport is one of the first to have extended basic migrated to digital only:

http://www.newburyportnews.com/puopinion/local_story_099233913.html

-Ken


This is good news for Mass. subscribers.

This is good news for Mass. subscribers.

Hopefully it will be from north to south shore in a linear fashion !

-Ken

My NESN+ HD isn't showing up in HD on 817... anyone else receiving an HD signal?

So much for NESN Plus HD.

Comcast and NESN get your head out of your @ss.

Channel 817 is SD. 704x480 (2.8 Mbps - Horrible)

My NESN+ HD isn't showing up in HD on 817... anyone else receiving an HD signal?

Not HD here in Easton either.

I called a buddy w/DirecTV and asked and he said it is HD on there. So it seems like a Comcast issue.

So today is the day the NESN+ channel kicks in for the last Bruins reg.season game and guess what -- 5.1 sound but SD on the HD video slot! Are they splitting one for the other?! What is the point of having an HD plus channel if it's in SD? pointless and annoying... :confused:

so noone else has noticed this? Is it just in my market (Backbay/Boston)? Someone out there must have at least a 5.1 system :)

EDIT: ah, i see i'm not the only one. How about the audio guys?

So much for NESN Plus HD.

Comcast and NESN get your head out of your @ss.

Channel 817 is SD. 704x480 (2.8 Mbps - Horrible)

This channel should be available shortly. That's what i see.

So today is the day the NESN+ channel kicks in for the last Bruins reg.season game and guess what -- 5.1 sound but SD on the HD video slot! Are they splitting one for the other?! What is the point of having an HD plus channel if it's in SD? pointless and annoying... :confused:

so noone else has noticed this? Is it just in my market (Backbay/Boston)? Someone out there must have at least a 5.1 system :)

EDIT: ah, i see i'm not the only one. How about the audio guys?

Bruins road games never have true 5.1 anyway. I'm getting stereo today.

Bruins road games never have true 5.1 anyway. I'm getting stereo today.

Weird... i'm getting 5.1 for the Bruins (or there is audio coming from all speakers at least) and just left and right audio for the Sox... *shrug*

just showed a Bruins highlite on the Sox broadcast. It was in HD. aint that rich...

EDIT: guess they flipped the switch, Bruin's game now in HD... now if the Sox audio were fixed...

The Bruins game just changed to HD mid broadcast on Ch 817. The audio shows 5.1 now but I'm only hearing stereo.

It was posted above, but here's an article saying MLB TV HD is on 818 in Saugus

http://www.wickedlocal.com/saugus/news/business/x1931062407/Comcast-launches-MLB-Network-HD-in-Saugus

It's not in my town... Wonder if they have to wait until the dual Bruins/Red Sox games are over with and they can reclaim 817...?

Can anyone who ordered the MLB EI package tune to the HD channel 635? Its in the guide but the channel won't load, kind of like what happens when a game is blacked out. Cleveland/KC shouldn't be blacked out, though.

EDIT: Called Comcast, after going through all the unplugging and refresh signals they tried to tune to the channel there and realized it doesn't work for them either. Told me it was a broadcast issue and it was being worked on, and to give it 24 hours.

The Bruins game just changed to HD mid broadcast on Ch 817. The audio shows 5.1 now but I'm only hearing stereo.

some was for the video for me, but the audio was surround. Also, sine then it's been

NESN 24/7 HD video and stereo audio
NESN+ 24/7 SD video and stereo audio

Seems that they're swapping ne for the other. no idea why... bandwidth? Truly annoying and i'll be pissed if they haven't fixed the video for the either the Sox or B's game on NESN+ saturday. :mad:

some was for the video for me, but the audio was surround. Also, sine then it's been

NESN 24/7 HD video and stereo audio
NESN+ 24/7 SD video and stereo audio

Seems that they're swapping ne for the other. no idea why... bandwidth? Truly annoying and i'll be pissed if they haven't fixed the video for the either the Sox or B's game on NESN+ saturday. :mad:

NESN+ HD isn't a full time feed on the satellite. Can't find it on lyngsat.com and if its being switched between SD and HD, its likely that NESN isn't providing it to Comcast all the time. So, rather than leaving you with a dead channel when they aren't airing games, they put up the NESN+ SD channel which NESN does seem to air on their sat feed all the time.

Can anyone who ordered the MLB EI package tune to the HD channel 635? Its in the guide but the channel won't load, kind of like what happens when a game is blacked out. Cleveland/KC shouldn't be blacked out, though.

EDIT: Called Comcast, after going through all the unplugging and refresh signals they tried to tune to the channel there and realized it doesn't work for them either. Told me it was a broadcast issue and it was being worked on, and to give it 24 hours.

This unfortunately has been going on for months with the NBA/NHL packages, one will work on a given night and the other will not. It seems very random, they fixed it a few weeks ago but after a week it broke again. When all the baseball was coming thru on Game HD, the NBA games on TEAM HD were missing, tonight that flip flopped, the baseball game was missing and the NBA game came thru OK. Go figure.

The good news is the NBA season is ending soon so the conflicts should be minimum, the HD PPV channel is also involved in this, so unless they fix it the MLB games should work as long as there is no HD PPV event going on lol

NESN+ HD isn't a full time feed on the satellite. Can't find it on lyngsat.com and if its being switched between SD and HD, its likely that NESN isn't providing it to Comcast all the time. So, rather than leaving you with a dead channel when they aren't airing games, they put up the NESN+ SD channel which NESN does seem to air on their sat feed all the time.

You are correct, the NESN+ HD signal on c-band is part time and is only on at game time, the SD one is full time so that is most likely why Comcast pumps that one thru 24/7.

You are correct, the NESN+ HD signal on c-band is part time and is only on at game time, the SD one is full time so that is most likely why Comcast pumps that one thru 24/7.

still doesn't explain the audio (technically, as far as i know after reading those comments)

NESN announced that Saturdays Nights games will have the Bruins on NESN HD and the Sox's on the NESN+ Channels.

Which BTW is the way it should be!

This unfortunately has been going on for months with the NBA/NHL packages, one will work on a given night and the other will not. It seems very random, they fixed it a few weeks ago but after a week it broke again. When all the baseball was coming thru on Game HD, the NBA games on TEAM HD were missing, tonight that flip flopped, the baseball game was missing and the NBA game came thru OK. Go figure.

The good news is the NBA season is ending soon so the conflicts should be minimum, the HD PPV channel is also involved in this, so unless they fix it the MLB games should work as long as there is no HD PPV event going on lol

That's just awesome. Rarely do I give Comcast an earful or attempt to have them credit my account for things, but the only reason I decided to order EI again this year was because they added the HD channel. If these problems continue (especially after the NBA season ends) they will be hearing from me again, and not just by calling 1-800-comcast.

That's just awesome. Rarely do I give Comcast an earful or attempt to have them credit my account for things, but the only reason I decided to order EI again this year was because they added the HD channel. If these problems continue (especially after the NBA season ends) they will be hearing from me again, and not just by calling 1-800-comcast.

+1

I am in the same boat regarding the MLB EI package, finally getting the HD channel clinched it for me (the SD picture quality on most of the MLB EI games is awful-looking if i watch on the PJ). Last Friday night they had a similar issue, but I figured it was the rainout in Cincy. Then yesterday afternoon and again last night...I hope it isn't a regular occurence.

I'm just not sure what Comcast will be able to do if it is.

This whole Game/Team HD issue has been going on since November or December. There was a week or so in March they fixed it but it has been broke since. I have tried calling Comcast before and they just come up with some bogus "blackout" excuse, I really have given up on the issue. The way I understand it is 3 channels (Team HD, Game HD & HD PPV) are sharing bandwidth of 2 channels, so only 2 can be active at once, however when more then 1 is active for some unknown reason 1 gets shut off and turns into a black screen till the next day. So it seems something is not setup right at Comcast's end.

Looks like Newburyport is one of the first to have extended basic migrated to digital only:

http://www.newburyportnews.com/puopinion/local_story_099233913.html

-Ken


I live in Newburyport and subscribe to basic, using an M Series Cable Card for my TiVo HD. It's great getting the local HDs in my $11/month sub.

I know in the article they say the "digital conversion" for expanded basic, yada yada, will not effect me. But I wonder if it will, in a good way. I wonder if by chance my Cable Card will pick up more stations than it is supposed to. I guess it all boils down to how they provision and all that jazz.

Either way, anyone in the area know what the SDV list is for us, if any?

I live in Newburyport and subscribe to basic, using an M Series Cable Card for my TiVo HD. It's great getting the local HDs in my $11/month sub.

I know in the article they say the "digital conversion" for expanded basic, yada yada, will not effect me. But I wonder if it will, in a good way. I wonder if by chance my Cable Card will pick up more stations than it is supposed to. I guess it all boils down to how they provision and all that jazz.

Either way, anyone in the area know what the SDV list is for us, if any?

There is a filter that locks out channels 24-69 on analog. The digital starter unebncrypted channels will be within this filter.

watching the Sox game on NESN... still only stereo audio. still full surround on NESN+. The HD vid was horizontally squashed for a few minutes in the top of the 1st but was fixed shortly after. At the same time i noticed the + feed was SD and letterboxed. after it was fixed it went back to 4:3. Now it's back to just a logo with sound (still surround). It seems they're still "working" on things and hopefully it will be done right by thurs. Bruins game. I'm expecting it not to be of course and in the meantime trying to think of how i can trick or rig my system to be surround. bah.

NESN doesn't produce all Red Sox games with DD5.1 so do not expect surround sound from every game, especially road games. Their HD promos during the game include a blurb about DD5.1 and a logo on the screen if they are produced with such.

NESN doesn't produce all Red Sox games with DD5.1 so do not expect surround sound from every game, especially road games. Their HD promos during the game include a blurb about DD5.1 and a logo on the screen if they are produced with such.

I realise not every broadcast on NESN has true DD5.1 audio. All i'm saying is that since the addition of NESN+, the only audio my system outputs is from reg.NESN is the front left and right speakers (and sub) - nothing from the center and two rears. Every other channel, even NESN+, at least outputs audio from all speakers whether true digital surround or not.

EDIT: well whatayaknow - all channels are pumping out audio for tonights Bruins playoff opener. excellent.

any idea when NHL Network and MLB Network will be HD north of Boston?

any idea when NHL Network and MLB Network will be HD north of Boston?

MLB network is in HD in Chelmsford.

My Friend's Box is saying one moment please on NESN+HD on 817, it's been like that since its been added almost 2 weeks ago. is this a failed box update problem? (He's sad he didn't see the Bruins game in HD because of this and hopes the HD channel works on Saturday for the Red Sox game vs Baltimore.)

Edit i found out why it's due to Technical Limitations?

http://community.nesn.com/forums/thread/3831682.aspx

My Friend's Box is saying one moment please on NESN+HD on 817, it's been like that since its been added almost 2 weeks ago. is this a failed box update problem? (He's sad he didn't see the Bruins game in HD because of this and hopes the HD channel works on Saturday for the Red Sox game vs Baltimore.)

Edit i found out why it's due to Technical Limitations?

http://community.nesn.com/forums/thread/3831682.aspx

If you're referring to last nights Bruins game, it was on regular NESN HD.

If you're referring to last nights Bruins game, it was on regular NESN HD.

I think he was referring to Sunday's game ( vs Islanders).

I think he was referring to Sunday's game ( vs Islanders).

Yep, the Screen stayed on one moment please the whole entire pregame,the game and the postgame.

Hope this doesn't happen during the Sox game

I spoke to a Comcast person (not a phone rep) who told me that the DTA rollout here in massachusetts will start with Newburyport (as we already know) and will continue by adding new towns every few months. The plan is to have the whole state done by the end of the year.

I spoke to a Comcast person (not a phone rep) who told me that the DTA rollout here in massachusetts will start with Newburyport (as we already know) and will continue by adding new towns every few months. The plan is to have the whole state done by the end of the year.

Since you live here too, did you ask anything specific about Chelmsford? :)

Since you live here too, did you ask anything specific about Chelmsford? :)


Dates won't be given out until they are a definate. Sorry:(

Since you live here too, did you ask anything specific about Chelmsford? :)

No nothing specific, when it gets here it gets here I guess. I'm hoping its a linear north to south approach.

-Ken

All my EI channels refuse to work now, not just the HD. What is the deal???

EDIT: Fixed (for now...)

i just lost scifi hd and usa hd

Does anyone have any updates on any New Channels being added in the near future?

i just lost scifi hd and usa hd
Working fine here.

Does anyone have any updates on any New Channels being added in the near future?

lookup the HD channels in 02135. the ones you don't have will be the ones added next, unless things change.

all channel audio for last night Bruins playoff opener (thankfully), and now back to stereo left/right only for tonight's Sox game. bah. My drama continues... noone else is noticing this? My buddy noticed a few days ago in Weymouth. Can't wait to see what happens during tomorrow nights double billing. :confused:

Dates won't be given out until they are a definate. Sorry:(

Understood...I wouldn't expect an actual date until just before it happens. I just wondered if there were any "hints." Comments along the line of: "It's going north to south" or "Middlesex County is the focus" or "The towns where FiOS is a month away are at the top of the list" or "I hear Chelmsford has some tech problems that will delay the start" are always good fodder for conversation...Obviously none of those would be any kind of "official" information, but I didn't know who his source was or how "plugged in" they are.

On a seperate note, does anyone know how the DTA rollout works? Are they free? How many?...I will use my case as an example: I have 3 HDTVs with HD-DVR boxes hooked up to them. The HDTV in the guest/play room is just direct connected to cable using an internal QAM tuner. After the change, what will I get on that tuner? Would they unscramble the standard digital channels so that I get more or will they scramble even more channels so that I get less? Stay the same?...If I hook up via DTA, would there be an increase on my bill and would I still get the locals in HD?...Thanks!

Understood...I wouldn't expect an actual date until just before it happens. I just wondered if there were any "hints." Comments along the line of: "It's going north to south" or "Middlesex County is the focus" or "The towns where FiOS is a month away are at the top of the list" or "I hear Chelmsford has some tech problems that will delay the start" are always good fodder for conversation...Obviously none of those would be any kind of "official" information, but I didn't know who his source was or how "plugged in" they are.

On a seperate note, does anyone know how the DTA rollout works? Are they free? How many?...I will use my case as an example: I have 3 HDTVs with HD-DVR boxes hooked up to them. The HDTV in the guest/play room is just direct connected to cable using an internal QAM tuner. After the change, what will I get on that tuner? Would they unscramble the standard digital channels so that I get more or will they scramble even more channels so that I get less? Stay the same?...If I hook up via DTA, would there be an increase on my bill and would I still get the locals in HD?...Thanks!

The only people that could answer that are ones who have already had the roll out, Oh wait, there aren't any yet!

I'll go on record now to say they will not get the whole state converted by the end of the year. Does anyone else feel that way?

I'll go on record now to say they will not get the whole state converted by the end of the year. Does anyone else feel that way?My bet is that the target is to have the whole state converted by the end of 2010.

Found this article from Cable Digital News (http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=175456&site=cdn&f_src=lightreading_gnews) referenced on the national Comcast thread.

Contains a video with Comcast's CTO.

Relevant quotes:

Comcast Corp. (Nasdaq: CMCSA, CMCSK) has started the "all-digital" process in parts of its Boston- and Atlanta-area systems as the MSO continues to free up space for more HD networks and the speedier Docsis 3.0 cable modem platform.
...
Comcast isn't that far along yet in the Boston area, but it has started the "marination" process in Newburyport. In that early, preparatory phase, the MSO is proactively installing digital boxes and simpler, one-way digital terminal adapters (DTAs) during routine truck rolls before the market is "on the clock" for the analog-to-digital channel migration.

My bet is that the target is to have the whole state converted by the end of 2010.

Comcast and target are two words that should not be used in the same sentence or post. ;)

Well I think there is an important point here:

target n. - A desired goal.

Not: A absolute promise.
Not: A moral imperative.
Not even a plan.

I think one of the reasons why good mass-market suppliers often no longer share their targets and objectives publicly, any more, is because of how often mass-market consumers and the mass-media pervert the intention of such information, either deliberately or inadvertently (I'm not sure which is worse) presenting goals not achieved as failures to fulfill promises, or violations of imperatives.

This is bleeding over into internal operations as well. I won't go into details, but my work gives me insights into how major corporations around the world manage their internal targets and objectives, and from what I've seen, the most critical concerns about those processes involve privacy -- keeping the targets and objectives for a department, and the metrics that track them, secret, not just from the public, but from other departments in the enterprise! We have become a society where people are simply too afraid to let anyone know that we're reaching towards a difficult goal, solely because people react to failing to meet such goals in such a malicious and destructive manner. This has beaten the spirit out of people, so much, that now most people (and companies) only discuss targets for which there is a clear plan already in effect and on-target for successful implementation.

Well I think there is an important point here:

target n. - A desired goal.

Not: A absolute promise.
Not: A moral imperative.
Not even a plan.

I think one of the reasons why good mass-market suppliers often no longer share their targets and objectives publicly, any more, is because of how often mass-market consumers and the mass-media pervert the intention of such information, either deliberately or inadvertently (I'm not sure which is worse) presenting goals not achieved as failures to fulfill promises, or violations of imperatives.

This is bleeding over into internal operations as well. I won't go into details, but my work gives me insights into how major corporations around the world manage their internal targets and objectives, and from what I've seen, the most critical concerns about those processes involve privacy -- keeping the targets and objectives for a department, and the metrics that track them, secret, not just from the public, but from other departments in the enterprise! We have become a society where people are simply too afraid to let anyone know that we're reaching towards a difficult goal, solely because people react to failing to meet such goals in such a malicious and destructive manner. This has beaten the spirit out of people, so much, that now most people (and companies) only discuss targets for which there is a clear plan already in effect and on-target for successful implementation.

Then maybe you should of just used the word "guess" because that is what you were really doing!

A target is a guess. Again, the problem is that some people are unwilling or unable to understand that. Regardless, the point is about getting information about companies' intentions, i.e., their guesses about what they're going to do in the future.

lookup the HD channels in 02135. the ones you don't have will be the ones added next, unless things change.

I hope so, i went to Comcast and asked and they at least told me my area has a 750Mhz system if that helps.

I'm down by Fall River and the Sox on 817 says that the channel "Will be available shortly" and the guide shows the game listed here. I can slum to SD on 81. Am I alone in this?

I'm down by Fall River and the Sox on 817 says that the channel "Will be available shortly" and the guide shows the game listed here. I can slum to SD on 81. Am I alone in this?

WTF Comcast !!!! NO your not I guess there is a change of plans. The girl on the chat said 734 was the on ther channel.

I'm down by Fall River and the Sox on 817 says that the channel "Will be available shortly" and the guide shows the game listed here. I can slum to SD on 81. Am I alone in this?

same here in Back Bay Boston as of 20 min ago... lovely. Least they got full audio output when the Bruins game is live... :confused:

EDIT: signal just came back, but in SD video. guess they're working on it.
EDIT1: aaaaand it's out again. guess this is what i get for staying in on a sat.night. meh. btw, it's both the SD and HD NESN+ channels..

WTF Comcast !!!! NO your not I guess there is a change of plans. The girl on the chat said 734 was the on ther channel.

you both aren't alone, its now 10:35pm and due to this ongoing incident i missed the Sox game in HD! thanks again for your wonderful service Comcast. :mad:

Understood...I wouldn't expect an actual date until just before it happens. I just wondered if there were any "hints." Comments along the line of: "It's going north to south" or "Middlesex County is the focus" or "The towns where FiOS is a month away are at the top of the list" or "I hear Chelmsford has some tech problems that will delay the start" are always good fodder for conversation...Obviously none of those would be any kind of "official" information, but I didn't know who his source was or how "plugged in" they are.

On a seperate note, does anyone know how the DTA rollout works? Are they free? How many?...I will use my case as an example: I have 3 HDTVs with HD-DVR boxes hooked up to them. The HDTV in the guest/play room is just direct connected to cable using an internal QAM tuner. After the change, what will I get on that tuner? Would they unscramble the standard digital channels so that I get more or will they scramble even more channels so that I get less? Stay the same?...If I hook up via DTA, would there be an increase on my bill and would I still get the locals in HD?...Thanks!

The first two DTA's are free, additional cost for more.The DTA only pass thru SDTV, so you will not get an HD signal if you choose to use one of these on the guest room tv. A work around would be to have a splitter in place, but this is cumbersome.

-Ken

The first two DTA's are free, additional cost for more.The DTA only pass thru SDTV, so you will not get an HD signal if you choose to use one of these on the guest room tv. A work around would be to have a splitter in place, but this is cumbersome.

-Ken

So if I have an analog TV hooked directly to cable (no box), will I need a DTA to receive anything on that set once the conversion rolls through here?

And would that enable me to view NESN+ SD on that set - because right now, I can't.

Sorry if this muddies the waters....

So if I have an analog TV hooked directly to cable (no box), will I need a DTA to receive anything on that set once the conversion rolls through here?

And would that enable me to view NESN+ SD on that set - because right now, I can't.

Sorry if this muddies the waters....


The NESN + is on channel 81 I think everywhere (analog). I would do a re-scan of the channels on the TV that would fix it.

So if I have an analog TV hooked directly to cable (no box), will I need a DTA to receive anything on that set once the conversion rolls through here?

And would that enable me to view NESN+ SD on that set - because right now, I can't.

Sorry if this muddies the waters....

After the conversion you will only get the limited basic channels which are generally 2-22. You will need a DTA for extended basic 23-99

-Ken

A target is not a guess. It's a goal that reasonably competent people readily achieve. Comcast?

You're wrong Phil. I posted the definition of "target" above.

The first two DTA's are free, additional cost for more.The DTA only pass thru SDTV, so you will not get an HD signal if you choose to use one of these on the guest room tv. A work around would be to have a splitter in place, but this is cumbersome.

-Ken

I don't mind a splitter too much if the DTA is truly free (not one of those deals where it's technically free, but negates a discount I was getting somewhere else). Will the DTA be able to access all digital channels so that the kids can finally go in there to watch SpongeBob on 224?

I don't mind a splitter too much if the DTA is truly free (not one of those deals where it's technically free, but negates a discount I was getting somewhere else). Will the DTA be able to access all digital channels so that the kids can finally go in there to watch SpongeBob on 224?

Yes the first two DTAs are free. Only the digital starter channels however are available and the unit only has RF output.

See this FAQ:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21523002-

A target is a guess. Again, the problem is that some people are unwilling or unable to understand that. Regardless, the point is about getting information about companies' intentions, i.e., their guesses about what they're going to do in the future.

Regardless of whether it is a target or a guess, they usually don't make it.
They would be better off saying "Sometime in the Future" and then they would always be able to say they are on schedule without having to backtrack when the goal is finally achieved.

I know this would work for you because it covers their @#s and keeps the public in the dark which is what you seem to preach over and over around here that a good business should be doing.

I don't agree but you and I don't agree on much anyway. ;)

Yes the first two DTAs are free. Only the digital starter channels however are available and the unit only has RF output.

See this FAQ:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21523002-

What about the duplication fee they charge for each unit if you already have one of the STB's? That does really not make them free as I understand it.

They would be better off saying "Sometime in the Future"...And the folks complaining would complain about THAT. Actually, that's really the situation that those folks are complaining about NOW! Comcast has said they're going to add HD channels, "sometime in the future", but that's not good enough for some people.

So basically you've helped us come full circle, and have proven that there is nothing that service providers can reasonably be expected to do that these folks will NOT complain about.

What about the duplication fee they charge for each unit if you already have one of the STB's? That does really not make them free as I understand it.

there is no duplication fee because this doesn't include most of the preferred 200 level digital channels, and has no on demand feature.

-Ken

And the folks complaining would complain about THAT. Actually, that's really the situation that those folks are complaining about NOW! Comcast has said they're going to add HD channels, "sometime in the future", but that's not good enough for some people.

So basically you've helped us come full circle, and have proven that there is nothing that service providers can reasonably be expected to do that these folks will NOT complain about.

They are not doing that!

Comcast has already said "By the end of the Year" in 2008 and now in 2009.

So they have locked themselves in with a target date, guess or whatever once again and That is why people complain or will start to complain if their system is not converted within that time period.

Maybe they should start by not putting out those PR statements to begin with or they should hire you to head the dept where you can say "NO Comment" over and over again when asked about it's future plans. ;)

Oh one other thing, don't come cryin to me when by not saying anything creates a backlash of people who get tired of waiting and switch to another provider which is bound to happen and is the real reason they give those unattainble dates in the first place. :)

Is anyone getting the Boston marathon on WBZ in HD today?

i'm not getting it in HD because my area is closer to the providence channel WPRI in which i only get the SD channel of WBZ-TV.

They are not doing that!

Comcast has already said "By the end of the Year" in 2008 and now in 2009.

So they have locked themselves in with a target date, guess or whatever once again and That is why people complain or will start to complain if their system is not converted within that time period.

Maybe they should start by not putting out those PR statements to begin with or they should hire you to head the dept where you can say "NO Comment" over and over again when asked about it's future plans. ;)

Oh one other thing, don't come cryin to me when by not saying anything creates a backlash of people who get tired of waiting and switch to another provider which is bound to happen and is the real reason they give those unattainble dates in the first place. :)

And there are so many subscribers that DONT want anything except for their bill to stay the same or go down. Read the comments on the Newburyport article, i see these same comments almost anytime comcast is doing anything to be newsworthy.

http://www.newburyportnews.com/punews/local_story_107221214.html

And there are so many subscribers that DONT want anything except for their bill to stay the same or go down. Read the comments on the Newburyport article, i see these same comments almost anytime comcast is doing anything to be newsworthy.

http://www.newburyportnews.com/punews/local_story_107221214.html

Yes but those people have no effect unlike the high end digital subs or they would not be doing the conversions at all. ;)

Yes but those people have no effect unlike the high end digital subs or they would not be doing the conversions at all. ;)

Quite the contrary, Comcast wouldn't even provide the DTAs if they weren't interested in trying to keep the analog people happy. Moving slowly with the converison also has to do with the low cost analog subs.

-Ken

Quite the contrary, Comcast wouldn't even provide the DTAs if they weren't interested in trying to keep the analog people happy. Moving slowly with the converison also has to do with the low cost analog subs.

-Ken

It doesn't matter whether the conversion is fast or slow, the outcome is the same!

The fact they want to do the conversion at all speaks for itself or they would have just left it as the status quo!

How many times do I have to say this? Comcast is trying to progress with new technology because that is what most people want, not the other way around. Thats the Bottom line or they would be advertising themselves as the leader in analog providers which btw they don't. Gee I wonder why?

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Comcast is trying to progress with new technology because that is what most people want, not the other way around. Thats the Bottom line or they would be advertising themselves as the leader in analog providers which btw they don't. Gee I wonder why?

Lodef, most (all?) people would also like their bills to be lower. And you know that this is not going to happen no matter how loud we cry. Let's face it, Comcast is interested in new technology only as a way of making more money for shareholders. So, no matter what they say the bottom line is their bottom line. Their bottom line depends on what the competition is doing (thank God) and this is the only reason we have HD etc. I guess I sound like bicker1... :D

It doesn't matter whether the conversion is fast or slow, the outcome is the same!

The fact they want to do the conversion at all speaks for itself or they would have just left it as the status quo!

How many times do I have to say this? Comcast is trying to progress with new technology because that is what most people want, not the other way around. Thats the Bottom line or they would be advertising themselves as the leader in analog providers which btw they don't. Gee I wonder why?

Comcast cannot afford to simply toss either audience away. They know they need to do the conversion to keep HD fans from bolting to Verizon or satellite, but they want to do it in a way that the still-large analog audience is willing to tolerate (not necessarily happy, but not quite mad enough to cancel). Otherwise they would snap their fingers and disappear the channels tomorrow.

If they really have no interest in retaining their analog customers, how do you explain the millions of DTAs that Comcast are purchasing and installing? No company has that kind of money to spend nowadays on something they don't think is important.

Comcast cannot afford to simply toss either audience away. They know they need to do the conversion to keep HD fans from bolting to Verizon or satellite, but they want to do it in a way that the still-large analog audience is willing to tolerate (not necessarily happy, but not quite mad enough to cancel). Otherwise they would snap their fingers and disappear the channels tomorrow.

If they really have no interest in retaining their analog customers, how do you explain the millions of DTAs that Comcast are purchasing and installing? No company has that kind of money to spend nowadays on something they don't think is important.

Bob I never said they do not want to maintain their analog subs. They will come along one way or the other. I'll say it again, there is no analog competitor so there is not that high of a risk of losing many subs. Sure some will leave but the high paying digital subs that would have bolted are likely to stay which more than makes up for those analog ones that leave. And for those that think they don't have the power to lower bills, Think again. it was actually quite easy to do!

Bob I never said they do not want to maintain their analog subs. They will come along one way or the other. I'll say it again, there is no analog competitor so there is not that high of a risk of losing many subs. Sure some will leave but the high paying digital subs that would have bolted are likely to stay which more than makes up for those analog ones that leave. And for those that think they don't have the power to lower bills, Think again. it was actually quite easy to do!

Wouldn't it be nice to have reasonable rates and services from comcast without having to threaten to leave, and call the retention line ? It's a hassle and is stressful and it is tiring.

-Ken

I'd advocate that Comcast would be better off to go back in time, and STOP charging for their standard boxes.

They control the content we receive with the box, but having the box in a house creates an opportunity for them to drive revenue/profit by offering PPV, and showing the channels that folks are missing out on.

I'd switch to a higher tier in a moment, IF I wasn't going to be charged for every STB in my house.

Pat E

full channel audio for today's Sox game, stereo for Bruins playoff game. way to be consistent. :mad:

Did the Golf Channel (channel 69 in my area) get moved to the digital tier? It's now coming up blank.

I'd advocate that Comcast would be better off to go back in time, and STOP charging for their standard boxes.

They control the content we receive with the box, but having the box in a house creates an opportunity for them to drive revenue/profit by offering PPV, and showing the channels that folks are missing out on.

I'd switch to a higher tier in a moment, IF I wasn't going to be charged for every STB in my house.

Pat E

So is comcast just supposed to absorb the cost for all those boxes ? Their profits would plummet and the stock holders would be screaming. Tru2way is coming, it is a few years away and then you wont need a box (hopefully).

-Ken

So is comcast just supposed to absorb the cost for all those boxes ? Their profits would plummet and the stock holders would be screaming. Tru2way is coming, it is a few years away and then you wont need a box (hopefully).

-Ken

Tru2Way I thought was supposed to be here in July... Panasonic already has a Viera LCD that is Tru2Way capable. No box needed.

Tru2Way I thought was supposed to be here in July... Panasonic already has a Viera LCD that is Tru2Way capable. No box needed.

Everything takes time, its only Chicago and Denver right now. And if you want a dvr you will still need a box, at least for now.

http://www.twice.com/index.asp?layout=talkbackCommentsFull&talk_back_header_id=6562067&articleid=CA6605828

I guess I sound like bicker1... :DI'm making headway! http://www.wdwinfo.com/images/smilies/woohoo.gif

If they really have no interest in retaining their analog customers, how do you explain the millions of DTAs that Comcast are purchasing and installing?Political discussion are not permitted here.

So is comcast just supposed to absorb the cost for all those boxes ? Their profits would plummet and the stock holders would be screaming. Tru2way is coming, it is a few years away and then you wont need a box (hopefully).But folks should understand that a responsible company will still work to find a way to capitalize on all the value they provide you. I expect to see mirroring fees once tru2way is available. Again, MSOs aren't charities.

Everybody notice NESN + 817 is on the air ready for tomorrow.

It is here in Burlington.

Does anyone know which analog channel was lost as a result? Or is this MUXed on with something else?

Not sure if this has already been posted, but on my latest bill I see:

"The NFL Network, currently available as part of our Sports Entertainment Package and Business Class Sports Pack, may terminate Comcast's right to carry NFL Network & NFL Network HD on April 30. We are seeking the right to continue carrying these networks, but if we're unsuccessful, they may be removed from channel lineups on or after May 1."