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toots
11-15-07, 07:11 AM
I'm gonna have to think on that...

MickeyGee
11-15-07, 08:06 AM
...FWIW, NHL Network HD will launch on 822 sometime today or tomorrow in Boston and Brookline only.
They must be paying Comcast for carriage, since I doubt many people have been asking for this one. Most local Bruins fans will be watching Bruins games on NESN-HD instead.

Mickey

therob006
11-15-07, 08:48 AM
So my question is this - what is so different about Boston, that we can't do that here? It's not like we're some backwater - Neilsen says we have the fourth-highest percentage of homes able to receive HD in the country:

http://www.tvpredictions.com/cityhd103107.htm

If Comcast replicated their Chicago move in their major markets, they could match DirecTV channel-for-channel. Transitions are hard on most people, but in the end they adapt. It's not such a burden when compared with over-the-air broadcast TV, where people are going to have to apply for government coupons to defray part of the purchase of a converter box - now that could get ugly, and it's only 15 months away!

In Boston/Brookline, you must have a cable box for any services above basic. Very easy to transition over from analog to digital for the expanded channels. Comcast and many other cable providers are using the FCC imposed deadline of switching from analog to digital OTA broadcasting to also switch analog channels over to digital (CSPAN 2, Game Show Network). The change will happen, just not as quickly as Chicago. Why? Because of the large number of people who still cling to their cable direct option.

At least 121 cable subscribers in Chicago are unhappy about Comcast’s forcing them to move to a digital-video tier in order to receive about 38 channels they used to get without set-tops.


From my point of view, the number of people complaining to their town hall would be much greater then 121. Most towns still have a high concentration of senior citizens who depend on their cable and prefer not to switch to using cable box. Not sure if they would start weilding hammers but you never know. The towns here are very protective of the citizens and, as everyone here knows, cable companies are looked at as the big bad wolf. Certainly, the people who read this forum are in a different state of mind then those who have cable direct. Forcing them to have a cable box in their home would be a huge PR nightmare on every level. The media and government in Boston are pretty vicious when it comes to cable hikes, imagine how they would react if Comcast started informing them that Disney, Lifetime, ESPN, etc. would require a cable box for every TV. Its tough being the established company over the new entrant into the market. The reality of it is while we want our HD programming, our parents and grandparents could care less and it is the former that is hold up the transition. If only 121 people complained per town, Comcast would make the change tomorrow.

therob006
11-15-07, 10:06 AM
FWIW, NHL Network HD will launch on 822 sometime today or tomorrow in Boston and Brookline only.

822 is showing up this morning in Boston. I still want NBA-HD since I'm not a hockey fan.

philw1776
11-15-07, 01:39 PM
I would suggest a service call because 12:00 on the box means no signal to the box. Try going cable direct as suggested before. But more then likely, this will not be working.

Thanks to all. Yes I had picture and signal on all digital and analog channels. It was the box. Swapped it out.

On another topic the serviceman from Comcast said he was going into TiVo feature training and the rollout of Comcast TiVo was imminent.

eddielives
11-15-07, 01:55 PM
On another topic the serviceman from Comcast said he was going into TiVo feature training.

Great! That means he won't be available for a whole 20 minutes for service calls.:rolleyes:

kcalccal
11-15-07, 04:49 PM
822 is showing up this morning in Boston. I still want NBA-HD since I'm not a hockey fan.

Any word if they are adding NHL HD in Bristol County?

ITForensics
11-15-07, 05:51 PM
822 is WWLP-DT in the Springfield/Holyoke DMA... so the point is moot in Western MA.

Eric89GXL
11-15-07, 07:54 PM
The HDMI cables are ridiculously expensive everywhere except newegg. Found a quality 6' HDMI cable (1080P certified with 100+ perfect reviews and no negative reviews) for under $10 that I'm waiting to be delivered.

www.monoprice.com

Since I found them two years ago, I've only bought cables from them. They work as described, seem to be well-made, and are the cheapest I can find.

chr31ter
11-15-07, 08:36 PM
Any word if they are adding NHL HD in Bristol County?
Not for a while. It got added in Boston and Brookline because that's the only place they could add it without migrating more channels to digital.

travis33
11-16-07, 08:33 AM
Does anyone know who to blame for the lack of HD on Celtics away games? Comcast? Celtics?

I want to blame someone, but I can't figure out who. :mad:

Andrzej
11-16-07, 09:10 AM
Does anyone know who to blame for the lack of HD on Celtics away games? Comcast? Celtics?

I want to blame someone, but I can't figure out who. :mad:

What about blaming all your friends and neighbors who are not interested in HD and still don't have an HD set? :eek:

chrisgeleven
11-16-07, 09:16 AM
Does anyone know who to blame for the lack of HD on Celtics away games? Comcast? Celtics?

I want to blame someone, but I can't figure out who. :mad:

Comcast is to blame. You would think after Garnett and Allen were added to the team that it would be obvious to add Celtics away games in HD. Now with stellar ratings (the last game had the highest ratings for a Celtics game in a decade) and a 7-0 start, Comcast is wasting an obvious marketing opportunity for its new relaunched Comcast SportsNet channel to make all Celtics games available in HD.

I'm guessing the only reason we have Celtics home games in HD is that Comcast SportsNet must borrow some of the HD equipment NESN has installed at the FleetCenter.

bicker1
11-16-07, 09:44 AM
Nope, there is really no blame. Both the Celtics and Comcast are doing what they should be doing.

Lodef
11-16-07, 10:28 AM
Nope, there is really no blame. Both the Celtics and Comcast are doing what they should be doing.

And that is?

bicker1
11-16-07, 12:41 PM
Focusing on what achieves their goals best.

Paul Simoneau
11-16-07, 01:13 PM
And that is?

Why even bother entertaining anything that guy says ? All you're gonna get is more pro-Comcast blather... The ignore list is your friend, trust me.

travis33
11-16-07, 01:42 PM
Why even bother entertaining anything that guy says ? All you're gonna get is more pro-Comcast blather... The ignore list is your friend, trust me.

I was going to respond, but your post lowered my blood pressure a little bit. I think you have the right idea. Thanks.

:cool:

chaz01
11-16-07, 03:11 PM
Where are the home games? I tuned to 881 here in Beverly the other night and got a black screen until the game was over.

chitchatjf
11-16-07, 03:24 PM
Not for a while. It got added in Boston and Brookline because that's the only place they could add it without migrating more channels to digital.

I say within the next few weeks as a few more channels are going to digital.
GSN is going to 257 and I believe the Weather channel may move to limited basic .

MickeyGee
11-16-07, 03:29 PM
Now children, let’s play nice. Here is a different way of explaining the situation. I believe that most Regional Sports Networks around the country are only showing home games in HD for the professional sports they cover (if showing any HD at all). We, in New England, have been a little spoiled by NESN-HD which seems to enjoy being an innovator, producing quality HD broadcasts both home and away, and still making serious coin.

Producing and broadcasting road games in HD costs more, and I’m sure FSNE/CSN-NE does not get the same ratings and ad revenue that NESN enjoys. My guess is that the new owners will put in place budgets for new HD studios and HD road broadcasts at some point in the not too distant future. Just not this season.

Mickey

jwciv
11-16-07, 04:09 PM
[QUOTE=chaz01;12236746]Where are the home games? [QUOTE]

at the fleet center:)

chrisgeleven
11-16-07, 04:17 PM
Well what do you know, Boston Sports Media Watch decided to ask Comcast themselves:

http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/archives/2007/11/the_celtics_road_games_hd_ques.php

The Summary: Comcast SportsNet claims having road games in HD is their #1 priority and they hope to start broadcasting all road games in HD sometime this season. They also confirm that since the other 3 Boston sports teams have practically 100% of their games in HD, it is in their best interest to do the same with Celtics games.

Andrzej
11-16-07, 04:31 PM
[QUOTE=chaz01;12236746]Where are the home games? [QUOTE]

at the fleet center:)

Wrong. They play at the TD Banknorth Garden.

travis33
11-16-07, 04:38 PM
Well what do you know, Boston Sports Media Watch decided to ask Comcast themselves:

http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/archives/2007/11/the_celtics_road_games_hd_ques.php

The Summary: Comcast SportsNet claims having road games in HD is their #1 priority and they hope to start broadcasting all road games in HD sometime this season. They also confirm that since the other 3 Boston sports teams have practically 100% of their games in HD, it is in their best interest to do the same with Celtics games.

I hope they achieve their goal.

ITForensics
11-16-07, 05:42 PM
I hope they achieve their goal.

On the 81st game of the season... ;)

Lodef
11-16-07, 11:49 PM
Focusing on what achieves their goals best.

So by not producing away games in HD some how translates to you as focusing on what achieves their goals best? Hmm, looks like they better hire new people then if that is their logic because they are then failing on what you say they are trying to accomplish.

bicker1
11-17-07, 07:52 AM
Or perhaps they simply disagree with your analysis.

bicker1
11-17-07, 07:56 AM
Why even bother entertaining anything that guy says ? All you're gonna get is more pro-Comcast blather... The ignore list is your friend, trust me.As opposed to the anti-Comcast "blather" that many folks provide in this thread? We all have our own perspectives. What it sounds like you want is an unrebutted soap-box to bash Comcast whenever you're frustrated with the reality of the situation. That's unfair, and, more importantly, is a disservice to the thread. The thread benefits from a balanced presentation -- equal time for both sides of every issue. That happens to be the law of the land for broadcast networks not just for fun but because it is a good idea -- it serves the best interests of the viewers. And, though not required online, that same benefit could be derived from this thread, when both side of each issue is presented -- not just your consumerist perspective.

Lodef
11-17-07, 09:43 AM
As opposed to the anti-Comcast "blather" that many folks provide in this thread? We all have our own perspectives. What it sounds like you want is an unrebutted soap-box to bash Comcast whenever you're frustrated with the reality of the situation. That's unfair, and, more importantly, is a disservice to the thread. The thread benefits from a balanced presentation -- equal time for both sides of every issue. That happens to be the law of the land for broadcast networks not just for fun but because it is a good idea -- it serves the best interests of the viewers. And, though not required online, that same benefit could be derived from this thread, when both side of each issue is presented -- not just your consumerist perspective.

Yes bicker it is fine to take the opposing view but I think he is referring to the many pointless post you make which in turn adds very little value to this thread. To be honest, you seem only to come here looking for conflict most times as well as in other threads I have read that you have posted in. You seem to thrive on the Getting Under Your Skin Factor as many here will attest too. I also do not agree with you that many here are here to just bash Comcast, to the contrary, so don't use that as an excuse to throw in as your rebuttal when your really only trying to provoke the other person into a I'm smarter than you posting match. Try being constructive for once and stop trying to belittle the other person to prove your self perceived superior intelligence and then maybe we can all get along.

Paul Simoneau
11-17-07, 12:59 PM
Yes bicker it is fine to take the opposing view but I think he is referring to the many pointless post you make which in turn adds very little value to this thread. To be honest, you seem only to come here looking for conflict most times as well as in other threads I have read that you have posted in. You seem to thrive on the Getting Under Your Skin Factor as many here will attest too. I also do not agree with you that many here are here to just bash Comcast, to the contrary, so don't use that as an excuse to throw in as your rebuttal when your really only trying to provoke the other person into a I'm smarter than you posting match. Try being constructive for once and stop trying to belittle the other person to prove your self perceived superior intelligence and then maybe we can all get along.

BINGO. The man has BINGO.

His incessant Comcast sycophancy is absolutely mind blowing.

His belief of having to maintain "balance" here is astounding. I wonder if he does the same at the Pol Pot forums -- "no really, he was doing what he thought was best..."

His inflated ego and condescending tone are infuriating.

Thus, he's on my ignore list.

chaz01
11-17-07, 01:12 PM
So by not producing away games in HD some how translates to you as focusing on what achieves their goals best? Hmm, looks like they better hire new people then if that is their logic because they are then failing on what you say they are trying to accomplish.

How many, like myself, won't watch them in SD?

Maybe the goal is to decrease viewers.

Andrzej
11-17-07, 01:33 PM
How many, like myself, won't watch them in SD?

Maybe the goal is to decrease viewers.

Actually, not that many. As I said before, most viewers still don't have HD sets and they don't give a s..t whether the game is in SD or HD.

bicker1
11-17-07, 02:49 PM
Yes bicker it is fine to take the opposing view but I think he is referring to the many pointless post you make which in turn adds very little value to this thread.Someone who disagrees with my perspective is not in a good position to objectively evaluate whether my posts are "pointless" or not. I don't post pointless messages except when we get into this silly meta-discussions about what should and shouldn't be discussed. And that's really the main point: People should stop talking about me. This thread isn't about me. You post your perspective. Let me post my perspective. Don't try to get me to stop posting my perspective.

To be honest, you seem only to come here looking for conflictUnless I preface my message with "Playing devil's advocate..." I have NEVER advocated, and will NEVER advocate, a perspective I don't strongly believe in. So just put that out of your mind. I'm here to participate in the discussion, and that includes both reading the perspectives of others and posting my own perspective.

Try being constructive for onceSometimes I feel like I'm the only one being constructive, since I'm the only one looking at the issue from the perspective of how can the user get the most out of the offering as it is, rather than what you appear to do most often, which is just express your frustration, which, with respect, I find totally non-constructive.

bicker1
11-17-07, 02:49 PM
I wonder if he does the same at the Pol Pot forumsThanks for proving my point... comparing Comcast to Pol Pot really is the epitome of what I'm talking about.


_____

Now let's move on. Let's talk about the topic, not the discussion.

Please?

bicker1
11-17-07, 02:53 PM
Has anyone heard anything indicating that we're getting Sci Fi HD anytime soon? There are a few communities across the country, which have advance notice requirements, which have received advance notice of receiving Sci Fi HD, but we typically get new HD channels pretty-much close to first within the Comcast system, so I'm rather hopeful that we're going to get this channel pretty soon. I'd love to have some reliable confirmation of that, though.

jread23
11-17-07, 02:58 PM
Thanks for proving my point... comparing Comcast to Pol Pot really is the epitome of what I'm talking about.

I went back and read that persons post and don't see how any reasonable and intelligent person can ascertain that they were comparing comcast to pol pot.

bicker1
11-17-07, 03:06 PM
I went back and read that persons post and don't see how any reasonable and intelligent person can ascertain that they were comparing comcast to pol pot.Do you really want to discuss that in this thread? :confused: I mean, I'm willing, if that's what you want. I just don't think it makes sense to derail the thread on yet another tangent here, when the bottom line is simply that you and I disagree about something.

ps2baseball
11-17-07, 04:22 PM
Ch 822 says NHLHD but there isn't anything on.

Could this be a new channel?

chitchatjf
11-17-07, 04:44 PM
The reason why road Celtic games are still only in HD, IMHO is because they do not have a fulltime slot on Comcast systems for Comcast Sportsnet HD,and they don't wan't to have to take too many nights away from Mojo.

JM22681
11-17-07, 05:34 PM
The reason why road Celtic games are still only in HD, IMHO is because they do not have a fulltime slot on Comcast systems for Comcast Sportsnet HD,and they don't wan't to have to take too many nights away from Mojo.

Simple solution...remove UPN!

bicker1
11-17-07, 05:42 PM
UPN is already gone. :)

eddielives
11-17-07, 05:47 PM
Sorry to interrupt the 6th grade slap fight, but I just got off the phone with a CSR who wasn't afraid to shoot the breeze about what's going on. Bear in mind that he could have been talking out of his ass, but he seemed well versed and excited about what was happening (and what was going to happen) regarding the Boston area Comcast subscribers. He stated that the Tivo interface would be available to me on the 26th (I live in the Sterling/Clinton area). He said he lives in Springfield, so it adds a little validity since he's local. He also said that while he didn't have any solid information, TLC and the Science ch. aren't that far off. We'll see.
The reason I called in the first place was that my DHC3416 rebooted on its own @ exactly 5:00pm, and my guide went to "to be announced". Still, I feel like I just hit for a couple hundred on a scratch ticket getting a person like that on the other end. It was a nice change from the norm.

bicker1
11-17-07, 05:51 PM
TLC and Science Channel? ... before Sci Fi HD? Darnit.

Lodef
11-17-07, 06:06 PM
Someone who disagrees with my perspective is not in a good position to objectively evaluate whether my posts are "pointless" or not. I don't post pointless messages except when we get into this silly meta-discussions about what should and shouldn't be discussed. And that's really the main point: People should stop talking about me. This thread isn't about me. You post your perspective. Let me post my perspective. Don't try to get me to stop posting my perspective.

Unless I preface my message with "Playing devil's advocate..." I have NEVER advocated, and will NEVER advocate, a perspective I don't strongly believe in. So just put that out of your mind. I'm here to participate in the discussion, and that includes both reading the perspectives of others and posting my own perspective.

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one being constructive, since I'm the only one looking at the issue from the perspective of how can the user get the most out of the offering as it is, rather than what you appear to do most often, which is just express your frustration, which, with respect, I find totally non-constructive.

Unfortunately Bicker playing devils advocate is your ONLY agenda even when it is not called for. Thats what makes your posting so tiresome. And sorry I do not agree with most of your responses to my above post but I wouldn't have expected anything less from you. So go ahead and claim your First Amendment Rights because thats about the only thing you have going for you. Time to move on!

Lodef
11-17-07, 06:11 PM
How many, like myself, won't watch them in SD?

Maybe the goal is to decrease viewers.

Exactly. I also will not watch if it is just in SD. So only home games it is for me.

mgpt6
11-17-07, 09:54 PM
In Bristol County, CH. 56 is gone. Was EWTN. Box jumps from 55 Spike to 57 Bravo. Guide no longer lists anything for 56.Maybe room soon for 2 more HDs?

chitchatjf
11-18-07, 12:17 AM
Not in Lawrence. I have heard that the Weather channel is moving to limited basic in some Comcast areas. This may be why channel 97 (98 on the box) is now blank.
Alsdo GSN is going to 267 and digital only on December 1st. This would free tWO analog slots for HD channels This still leaves over 40 to go.

chaz01
11-18-07, 01:20 AM
Is Bicker really Rusty Pelican in disguise?

MickeyGee
11-18-07, 07:45 AM
Not in Lawrence. I have heard that the Weather channel is moving to limited basic in some Comcast areas. This may be why channel 97 (98 on the box) is now blank.
Alsdo GSN is going to 267 and digital only on December 1st. This would free tWO analog slots for HD channels This still leaves over 40 to go.
It looks like Comcast is doing a slow bleed getting rid of the analog channels. Too many at once and someone might notice and complain.

And who or what is Rusty Pelican?

Mickey

bicker1
11-18-07, 08:18 AM
Is Bicker really Rusty Pelican in disguise?Rusty, perhaps, but not pelican.

bicker1
11-18-07, 08:20 AM
In Bristol County, CH. 56 is gone.My understanding is that Bristol County is in the Providence DMA, so the local channels provided by default will be those from Providence.

chitchatjf
11-18-07, 12:47 PM
I have done a little research into what frequencies uses which HD channels. This is all based on the lineup in Lawrence using a DCT3416.

History and discovery are on ch 45.
A&E and CNN have channel 48.

most frequencies have two channels using them However I have seen a few occupied by THREE HD channels.

HBO Showtime AND Starz ALL occupy channel 93.
Universal HD, HD theatre,and Cinemax are all on channel 89.

ESPN and ESPN2 are both together on channel 100.

The highest channel currently in use by HD is channel 115 which has MHD and National Geo.

WMUR is alone on channel 75 (maps to 75.86 on my QAM tuner)
Verses/Golf HD is alone on channel 104. There may be SD digital channels on the same frequency or they may be saving it for the day when Verse HD and Golf HD become separate channels.

USa is up on channel 110 sharing space with Mojo

mgpt6
11-18-07, 02:15 PM
Bicker ,cable channel 56 which had EWTN is gone in Bristol County. We still WLVI on Ch.18 and WLVI-DT on 856. WLVI did move from from Cable channel 11 to 18 recently to make room for WNAC Providence at cable channel 11. We did lose WFXT-DT and was replaced with WNAC-DT at 811.

bicker1
11-18-07, 03:16 PM
Yup, that's my understanding.

dashford
11-18-07, 06:22 PM
Nope, there is really no blame. Both the Celtics and Comcast are doing what they should be doing.

And that is?

Focusing on what achieves their goals best.

Wow -- after an exchange like that, this guy has got to be next in line for White House spokesperson.

mgpt6
11-18-07, 06:32 PM
What 3 analog channels do you have now, that you would not get angry would go digital only, so we could have more HD channels.
My three would be Travel Channel, Court TV , and Animal Planet.

chitchatjf
11-18-07, 11:27 PM
I would say ALL of them.
Have former extended basic now digital starter channels available in UNENCRYPTED QAM within the 24-69 area blocked by those limited basic only filters.

bicker1
11-19-07, 06:51 AM
Wow -- after an exchange like that, this guy has got to be next in line for White House spokesperson.I doubt either side would have me. I'm too much of a moderate.

Regardless, the point is that they have a fiduciary responsibility to their owners, which takes precedence over all other considerations except following the letter of the law. It has been that way in this country for at least the last thirty years. There is no sound basis on which to expect them to do otherwise.

I hope that clears it up for you.

MickeyGee
11-19-07, 07:58 AM
What 3 analog channels do you have now, that you would not get angry would go digital only, so we could have more HD channels.
My three would be Travel Channel, Court TV , and Animal Planet.
I agree with your choices. In addition, there are 3 spanish language channels (17, 21 and 95). They should keep one of those on analog and move the other two to digital only.

Mickey

therob006
11-19-07, 08:33 AM
Has anyone heard anything indicating that we're getting Sci Fi HD anytime soon? There are a few communities across the country, which have advance notice requirements, which have received advance notice of receiving Sci Fi HD, but we typically get new HD channels pretty-much close to first within the Comcast system, so I'm rather hopeful that we're going to get this channel pretty soon. I'd love to have some reliable confirmation of that, though.

As of right now, I have not heard of Sci Fi HD being the next on demand channel to be added. If so, it may not come until February.

Ch 822 says NHLHD but there isn't anything on.

Could this be a new channel?

This is a new channel for subscribers in the Boston/Brookline city limits. Everyone else will be waiting. But I still prefer NBA TV HD over NHL but that is just my humble opinion.

Sorry to interrupt the 6th grade slap fight, but I just got off the phone with a CSR who wasn't afraid to shoot the breeze about what's going on. Bear in mind that he could have been talking out of his ass, but he seemed well versed and excited about what was happening (and what was going to happen) regarding the Boston area Comcast subscribers. He stated that the Tivo interface would be available to me on the 26th (I live in the Sterling/Clinton area). He said he lives in Springfield, so it adds a little validity since he's local. He also said that while he didn't have any solid information, TLC and the Science ch. aren't that far off. We'll see.
The reason I called in the first place was that my DHC3416 rebooted on its own @ exactly 5:00pm, and my guide went to "to be announced". Still, I feel like I just hit for a couple hundred on a scratch ticket getting a person like that on the other end. It was a nice change from the norm.

Best thing to do is to sign up on the wait list under comcast.com/tivo and wait for an e-mail saying its ready and please call xxx-xxx-xxxx to sign up. I've heard that people should be contacted soon (I'm on the list) but I'm hoping for a quick and easy install. Not some of the problems I've heard of.

therob006
11-19-07, 09:11 AM
I agree with your choices. In addition, there are 3 spanish language channels (17, 21 and 95). They should keep one of those on analog and move the other two to digital only.

Mickey

Channels 17, 21 and 95 are considered local broadcast channels (one of them is Needham) and they qualify for Must Carry status under FCC law. Great suggestion however, FCC rules America.

chitchatjf
11-19-07, 09:40 AM
I agree with your choices. In addition, there are 3 spanish language channels (17, 21 and 95). They should keep one of those on analog and move the other two to digital only.

Mickey

All broadcast AND MUST CARRY. Not an option.

bicker1
11-19-07, 01:28 PM
Has anyone heard anything indicating that we're getting Sci Fi HD anytime soon? There are a few communities across the country, which have advance notice requirements, which have received advance notice of receiving Sci Fi HD, but we typically get new HD channels pretty-much close to first within the Comcast system, so I'm rather hopeful that we're going to get this channel pretty soon. I'd love to have some reliable confirmation of that, though.As of right now, I have not heard of Sci Fi HD being the next on demand channel to be added.On Demand??? :confused: What do you mean?

bicker1
11-19-07, 01:29 PM
All broadcast AND MUST CARRY. Not an option.I think Boston has the most number of analog channels that qualify for must-carry. I recently counted 16 of them.

chitchatjf
11-19-07, 03:37 PM
I think Boston has the most number of analog channels that qualify for must-carry. I recently counted 16 of them.

Actually channels 2,4,5,7,9,25,38,and 56 are retransmission consent.

channels 11,27(Spanish ch 1),44,46,48,50,60(Spanish channel 2),62,66 (Spanish channel THREE!),and 68 are must carry.

therob006
11-19-07, 04:17 PM
On Demand??? :confused: What do you mean?

Opps. I meant HD. Not enough caffiene this morning. Damn 8:15pm start time.

therob006
11-19-07, 04:31 PM
Actually channels 2,4,5,7,9,25,38,and 56 are retransmission consent.

channels 11,27(Spanish ch 1),44,46,48,50,60(Spanish channel 2),62,66 (Spanish channel THREE!),and 68 are must carry.

Q: Why does my cable system offer several channels with similar programming formats (for instance, religious, Hispanic, shopping) not previously carried?


A: Some stations may have been added to your system because they are considered local for your area and they have requested, and are entitled to, carriage under the must-carry rules. Commercial stations are considered local if they are assigned to the same television market as your cable system. Noncommercial stations are considered local if they are licensed to cities within 50 miles of your cable system or their signals meet certain technical engineering standards at the cable system's reception facility. Other channels with these formats may be cable networks and are carried at the discretion of the cable operator.

All of your TVs belongs to us (http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/cblbdcst.html)

JM22681
11-19-07, 07:47 PM
UPN is already gone. :)

It is? I still have it on 838 in Boston.

ps2baseball
11-19-07, 08:42 PM
when we getting NHL HD?

shadylpete
11-19-07, 08:45 PM
It is? I still have it on 838 in Boston.

Its not called UPN anymore, its TV38 and the only reason its HD counterpart is still around is because it airs Jeopardy & Wheel of Fortune in HD on weeknights.

therob006
11-20-07, 07:59 AM
when we getting NHL HD?

When the moon is full and the wind blows from the east.

Boston/Brookline has it now on channel 822. Everywhere else is TBA. But you really want NHL HD that bad? I have 5 stations on my wish list before that one. But to each their own.

MickeyGee
11-20-07, 08:34 AM
Channels 17, 21 and 95 are considered local broadcast channels (one of them is Needham) and they qualify for Must Carry status under FCC law. Great suggestion however, FCC rules America.
Didn't know that. Thanks for the info. It looked like an obvious fix. Maybe we should bounce that topic and start thinking about switched digital instead.

Mickey

chitchatjf
11-20-07, 08:39 AM
Its not called UPN anymore, its TV38 and the only reason its HD counterpart is still around is because it airs Jeopardy & Wheel of Fortune in HD on weeknights.

It may also have something to do with the retransmission consent Comcast has with WBZ/WSBK. Drop SBK and BZ could go bye bye as well,not to mention what will happen 2-17-09.

bicker1
11-20-07, 09:16 AM
Actually channels 2,4,5,7,9,25,38,and 56 are retransmission consent. Yes... what I said was, "the most number of analog channels that qualify for must-carry"...

channels 11,27(Spanish ch 1),44,46,48,50,60(Spanish channel 2),62,66 (Spanish channel THREE!),and 68 are must carry.Okay, so there are a total of 18 channels, not 16. My mistake.

Does any other city have 18 channels that qualify for must-carry?

EDITED: Hmmm.... seems like DMA #1 (New York) has 38 channels that qualify for must-carry!!!!!!! So all of those channels must be delivered (somehow) in analog through 2012, unless (practically speaking) they agree not to be.

bicker1
11-20-07, 09:17 AM
It is? I still have it on 838 in Boston.It isn't a UPN affiliate anymore -- UPN shut down in September 2006.

therob006
11-20-07, 10:37 AM
Yes... what I said was, "the most number of analog channels that qualify for must-carry"...

Okay, so there are a total of 18 channels, not 16. My mistake.

Does any other city have 18 channels that qualify for must-carry?

EDITED: Hmmm.... seems like DMA #1 (New York) has 38 channels that qualify for must-carry!!!!!!! So all of those channels must be delivered (somehow) in analog through 2012, unless (practically speaking) they agree not to be.


Good thing this is Boston and not New York. However, it can vary from city to city. So if you live near NH, then WMUR qualifies for must carry. If you leave near RI, then you are stuck with the RI locals. It all depends on how far your city is from the antenna transmission tower. Even after 2/2009 comes and goes, cable systems will still need to carry some analog channels so that people who absolutely refuse to get a cable box can receive some service. FCC and Congress is hammering that one out now.

DrDon
11-20-07, 04:21 PM
Bickering posts removed. Keep it civil, please.

ps2baseball
11-20-07, 10:31 PM
When the moon is full and the wind blows from the east.

Boston/Brookline has it now on channel 822. Everywhere else is TBA. But you really want NHL HD that bad? I have 5 stations on my wish list before that one. But to each their own.

I don't care but I am in Boston and not getting it

therob006
11-21-07, 09:51 AM
I don't care but I am in Boston and not getting it

If you are in Boston or Brookline and you are not getting NHL Network (must have HD box and Sports Ent package) then call and ask.

dashford
11-21-07, 09:51 PM
Nope, there is really no blame. Both the Celtics and Comcast are doing what they should be doing.

Comcast begs to differ with you. From ComcastSportsNet.com:

Q: What about away games? Are they in HD too?

A: Not yet. We are working to bring you HD road games as soon as possible. We are committed to utilizing technology to enhance sports fans' viewing experience. Providing HD road game telecasts is our number one priority. Please stay tuned for more news on our HD plans.
Their number one priority is to provide HD road game telecasts, so they are not currently "doing what they should be doing." If they were, they wouldn't be trying to change things.

epie
11-21-07, 10:26 PM
Hello,

I just purchased a Samsung 720p LCD and connected it directly to cable without a box. New to the QAM thing as my other LCD is connected through a STB. I noticed that some stations like WBZ-HD display in full 720p resolution in 16x9 mode however WJAR-HD still appears to be in 4x3 aspect ratio unless I go to "wide screen mode". Both stations are coming in at 1080i. Why the difference? Seems to be random with the HD channels I am picking up. Any thoughts?

Also, how come I don't get (or couldn't find them) Universal HD and ESPN HD as I get them on my other TV that has the STB.

I scanned channels using HRC and I live in Bristol County.

Thanks as always and Hapy Tukey Day all!

Andrzej
11-21-07, 10:55 PM
Comcast begs to differ with you. From ComcastSportsNet.com:

Q: What about away games? Are they in HD too?

A: Not yet. We are working to bring you HD road games as soon as possible. We are committed to utilizing technology to enhance sports fans' viewing experience. Providing HD road game telecasts is our number one priority. Please stay tuned for more news on our HD plans.
Their number one priority is to provide HD road game telecasts, so they are not currently "doing what they should be doing." If they were, they wouldn't be trying to change things.

What makes you think that this is not what they should be doing? :confused:

dashford
11-22-07, 08:22 AM
What are you referring to -- not providing Celtics road games in HD? Comcast thinks they should provide HD, but they're not currently doing it, so they're not currently doing what they should. You'd have to ask them why they feel that way, if it's not clear.

bicker1
11-22-07, 08:26 AM
so they are not currently "doing what they should be doing." If they were, they wouldn't be trying to change things.For example, they could theoretically do what you want them to do NOW, but perhaps are budgeting their resources and will do what you want them to do when it fits with the resources they've allocated.

I hope this helps.

chitchatjf
11-22-07, 09:27 AM
Hello,

I just purchased a Samsung 720p LCD and connected it directly to cable without a box. New to the QAM thing as my other LCD is connected through a STB. I noticed that some stations like WBZ-HD display in full 720p resolution in 16x9 mode however WJAR-HD still appears to be in 4x3 aspect ratio unless I go to "wide screen mode". Both stations are coming in at 1080i. Why the difference? Seems to be random with the HD channels I am picking up. Any thoughts?

Also, how come I don't get (or couldn't find them) Universal HD and ESPN HD as I get them on my other TV that has the STB.

I scanned channels using HRC and I live in Bristol County.

Thanks as always and Hapy Tukey Day all!

QAM as a rule will only get locals in HD.

scooterboy
11-22-07, 09:59 AM
Thanks as always and Hapy Tukey Day all!

Hapy Tukey?

Is that a Hawaiian holiday?


:p

Andrzej
11-22-07, 03:00 PM
What are you referring to -- not providing Celtics road games in HD? Comcast thinks they should provide HD, but they're not currently doing it, so they're not currently doing what they should. You'd have to ask them why they feel that way, if it's not clear.

They are trying to get the road games in HD. That's what they should be doing (i.e., trying and eventually getting them in HD) and that's what they are doing. Getting those games in HD is not as simple as flipping a switch or saying "yes" by their program director (or whoever is responsible). :)

dashford
11-22-07, 10:12 PM
They are trying to get the road games in HD. That's what they should be doing (i.e., trying and eventually getting them in HD) and that's what they are doing. Getting those games in HD is not as simple as flipping a switch or saying "yes" by their program director (or whoever is responsible). :)Yes, that's obvious. But...
NEWS FLASH! -- the season's started. These games count. If Comcast had intended to carry road games in HD this season, then they dropped the ball. If they hadn't and have now changed their mind, then they're fixing their error. Either way, they are not currently doing what they should. By their own admission. Go check their web site.

dashford
11-22-07, 10:19 PM
For example, they could theoretically do what you want them to do NOW, but perhaps are budgeting their resources and will do what you want them to do when it fits with the resources they've allocated.


It has nothing to do what I want, or what you want. One more time: Comcast has said that carrying Celtics road games in HD is its top priority. It's what Comcast wants. You are free to insist that Comcast is doing what they should be doing, but even *they* don't agree with you.

bicker1
11-23-07, 08:13 AM
You choose to believe whatever nefarious things you wish, and this time, at least, you seem to have not read my message: "perhaps [they] are budgeting their resources and will do what you want them to do when it fits with the resources they've allocated." Top priority does not mean that they'll do it immediately. It just means that they'll do it before they do other things. :rolleyes:

dashford
11-23-07, 11:08 AM
*sigh* I don't know where you get "nefarious" from -- I sure didn't make any such accusation. And I don't know where you get the idea I think they can/should do things "immediately". It's tiresome to have to knock down all the straw men you raise in your messages.

To me, it's simple -- Comcast wants to change things, and they're changing them. I just see what's on their web site and take it at face value -- you can speculate about "budgeting resources" or whatever you like. I think this is part of the reason people sometimes think you pretend to know more about what's going on behind the scenes at Comcast than you actually do .

therob006
11-23-07, 02:24 PM
*sigh* I don't know where you get "nefarious" from -- I sure didn't make any such accusation. And I don't know where you get the idea I think they can/should do things "immediately". It's tiresome to have to knock down all the straw men you raise in your messages.

To me, it's simple -- Comcast wants to change things, and they're changing them. I just see what's on their web site and take it at face value -- you can speculate about "budgeting resources" or whatever you like. I think this is part of the reason people sometimes think you pretend to know more about what's going on behind the scenes at Comcast than you actually do .

The new set for the pregame and the post game for Celts were the start of the changes. This is not as simple as writing a check for a new set, a new co-host, new HD cameras to take on the road, to sign the agreements to set-up the HD camera or use the other stadium's HD feed and so on. Comcast bought out Cablevision's 50% stake in the station and switched the name over to Comcast Sportnet which means everything branded FSN is out and new items need to be purchased. I'm sure it is coming. It may not be until next quarter (Jan 1st) but it is in Comcast's best interest to deliver not only HD home and away games but 24/7 Comcast Sports Net channel for New England.

chitchatjf
11-23-07, 04:09 PM
You also have to remember that they have to reserve bandwidth for it on ALL Comcast systems. You are not going to see "Comcast Sportsnet HD" 23 hours ONLY on Direct TV.

therob006
11-23-07, 05:35 PM
You also have to remember that they have to reserve bandwidth for it on ALL Comcast systems. You are not going to see "Comcast Sportsnet HD" 23 hours ONLY on Direct TV.

It would be all Comcast New England systems where Comcast Sportsnet qualifies as a regional sports channel. The former Adelphia areas already has a channel set aside for Comcast Sportsnet NE HD. After the move of GSN from analog to digital only, this would open up bandwidth for the rest of New England to carry the channel full time, not just 23 hours a day :p

rmf
11-23-07, 06:15 PM
They could probably pick up the high def feed from the away team network as the Red Sox did initially. They had some high def away games and some not initially.

chitchatjf
11-23-07, 08:50 PM
It would be all Comcast New England systems where Comcast Sportsnet qualifies as a regional sports channel. The former Adelphia areas already has a channel set aside for Comcast Sportsnet NE HD. After the move of GSN from analog to digital only, this would open up bandwidth for the rest of New England to carry the channel full time, not just 23 hours a day :p

which is only a week away!

bicker1
11-24-07, 07:10 AM
*sigh* I don't know where you get "nefarious" fromIf you don't think you've been ascribing nefarious attributes to Comcast, then we must be speaking different languages! :D

To me, it's simple -- Comcast wants to change things, and they're changing them.Then why didn't you say THAT, instead of what you said earlier? :confused:

dashford
11-24-07, 05:18 PM
If you don't think you've been ascribing nefarious attributes to Comcast, then we must be speaking different languages! :D
I think I know what I've been saying, but you pretty clearly don't (see below). I'm not even sure you know what "nefarious" means, since we all agree that they are working toward carrying Celtics road games in HD. If they were nefarious, they wouldn't be doing that.


To me, it's simple -- Comcast wants to change things, and they're changing them.
Then why didn't you say THAT, instead of what you said earlier? :confused:I *guess* you're confused. Do you think Comcast is changing things because they're currently doing what they're supposed to be doing? They want to change things because they aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing. That's all I've been saying.

chrisgeleven
11-24-07, 10:19 PM
According to the Tivo thread there are several people saying that Monday the 26th is the confirmed launch date for the Tivo upgrade in New England.

mgpt6
11-24-07, 11:31 PM
With GSN going digital on 12/04/07, does that free up Cable Channel 68 for more HD, or will 68 still be an active analog channel? Comcast needs space for NHLTV-HD,MGM-HD, Sci-Fi-HD and more...

chitchatjf
11-25-07, 06:17 AM
According to the Tivo thread there are several people saying that Monday the 26th is the confirmed launch date for the Tivo upgrade in New England.

From what I have heard the upgrade requires a rollout (a visit) It is not just the download,one needs a new remote.

eddielives
11-25-07, 07:31 AM
From what I have heard the upgrade requires a rollout (a visit) It is not just the download,one needs a new remote.

I wonder if they will let me pick up the new remote @ my local branch. I'll only need it for about 15 min. to teach commands to my universal.

bicker1
11-25-07, 07:37 AM
I think I know what I've been saying, but you pretty clearly don't Clearly, we're not speaking the same language. No sense in littering the thread with this stuff. You and I viscerally disagree; we'll leave it at that.

bicker1
11-25-07, 07:38 AM
With GSN going digital on 12/04/07, does that free up Cable Channel 68 for more HD, or will 68 still be an active analog channel? Comcast needs space for NHLTV-HD,MGM-HD, Sci-Fi-HD and more...I thought that Sci Fi HD might have been next, but rumors I've read indicate that Animal Planet HD and TLC HD are coming next. Time will tell...

jonwww
11-25-07, 07:43 AM
From what I have heard the upgrade requires a rollout (a visit) It is not just the download,

Yes it will require a truck roll but it's just to make sure the cable box is 'in specs' or change out if wrong type(see following for types). Just because it worked before doesn't mean it will work after Tivo software, it uses a different modem in the box that is more picky about the signal. Otherwise it's to make sure the download goes smoothly on the 'existing dvr'. The three boxes that shouldn't need to be changed are: dct3412, dct3416 or dch3416(but will still need tech visit). It was not designed for the older dct6412's or Pace boxes & will not work on them.


one needs a new remote.

Tivo remote is supposed to be mailed out to the customer, in the meantime most functions work fine with the silver remote.

bicker1
11-25-07, 07:54 AM
My understanding is that the new remote is not needed -- that the TiVo software will work fine with the existing remote. (Someone checked this for me, specifically, to ensure that we won't have problems with our Harmony universal remote.)

eddielives
11-25-07, 09:04 AM
Well, I hate to be the potential bearer of bad news, but I just got off the phone with Comcast, and was told that the rollout for 11/26 is a "no go":(. She was reading directly from her screen, and did not have much more info. on what caused the delay. I used to work for Tweeter, and I'm pretty sure I still have the Comcast reps phone #. I'll give him a call tomorrow. If he's still the rep, I'll see what I can find out.

kenvt
11-25-07, 09:57 AM
Could someone just give me the bullet points on why I would want to spend more money to have the Tivo software ?

Thanks,

Ken

JDLIVE
11-25-07, 12:47 PM
Could someone just give me the bullet points on why I would want to spend more money to have the Tivo software ?

Assuming it functions the same as the Tivo software on their own hardware, you get a much more user friendly interface, better search capabilities, better handling of automatic and series recording, and "suggestions" recorded for you based on your viewing habits (though I find this one to be of little use). If you watch a LOT of TV, especially prime time stuff, I think it may be useful.

I've found after owning a S2 Tivo for a few years that I really don't watch enough TV to truly need/appreciate the extras it has. I may give it a try out of curiosity, but I doubt I'll keep it unless it becomes the standard.

chitchatjf
11-25-07, 05:05 PM
Yes it will require a truck roll but it's just to make sure the cable box is 'in specs' or change out if wrong type(see following for types). Just because it worked before doesn't mean it will work after Tivo software, it uses a different modem in the box that is more picky about the signal. Otherwise it's to make sure the download goes smoothly on the 'existing dvr'. The three boxes that shouldn't need to be changed are: dct3412, dct3416 or dch3416(but will still need tech visit). It was not designed for the older dct6412's or Pace boxes & will not work on them.
Tivo remote is supposed to be mailed out to the customer, in the meantime most functions work fine with the silver remote.

I have TWO DVRs a DCT and a DCH (both 3416s). Do programming that you currently have get saved along with current season passes?

jonwww
11-25-07, 06:49 PM
I have TWO DVRs a DCT and a DCH (both 3416s). Do programming that you currently have get saved along with current season passes?

Existing programs should be saved through transition (no absolute guarantee), series recordings/season passes will have to be re-setup after Tivo is on box as recordings are set differently then current iGuide settings.

therob006
11-26-07, 08:22 AM
With GSN going digital on 12/04/07, does that free up Cable Channel 68 for more HD, or will 68 still be an active analog channel? Comcast needs space for NHLTV-HD,MGM-HD, Sci-Fi-HD and more...

My money would be on NHL-HD because it had launched in Boston. Now, it needs to be rolled out to the rest of New England.

Yes it will require a truck roll but it's just to make sure the cable box is 'in specs' or change out if wrong type(see following for types). Just because it worked before doesn't mean it will work after Tivo software, it uses a different modem in the box that is more picky about the signal. Otherwise it's to make sure the download goes smoothly on the 'existing dvr'. The three boxes that shouldn't need to be changed are: dct3412, dct3416 or dch3416(but will still need tech visit). It was not designed for the older dct6412's or Pace boxes & will not work on them.

Any idea when people who signed up on-line are going to get e-mails to call and schedule appointments for the "install"?

ps2baseball
11-26-07, 01:59 PM
Could someone just give me the bullet points on why I would want to spend more money to have the Tivo software ?

Thanks,

Ken

WOM

Waste o' money

therob006
11-26-07, 04:48 PM
WOM

Waste o' money

$2.95 per month for a better search feature and thumbs up/down to help the box decide what other show you might enjoy. Plus everyone says its a prettier interface.

Andrzej
11-26-07, 04:53 PM
WOM

Waste o' money

It's your opinion. I suspect that millions of Tivo users in the US and around the world (e.g., England, Mexico, Australia) probably disagree with you.

bicker1
11-27-07, 07:15 AM
I've got one of each. I have a weak preference for the TiVo. It is worth the extra money, to me, to have both. If I really had to choose one, I'd probably choose the TiVo, but it would be close. For anyone who likes, or would like, TiVo more than I do, it is well worth the money (WWTM). For anyone who doesn't, then, and only then, would it be WOM.

chitchatjf
11-27-07, 08:20 AM
Still not available. so when will it be launched? Feb 2009?

JoeBloggz
11-27-07, 09:10 AM
Still not available. so when will it be launched? Feb 2009?

I have not received any notification emails from Comcast either!! :(:(

bicker1
11-27-07, 09:15 AM
Still not available. so when will it be launched? Feb 2009?More likely December 2007 or January 2008. I think that projecting these minor set-backs into 14 month delays is very off-target.

elbig
11-27-07, 10:01 AM
Does the Tivo software solve any of the truly annoying "lag" problems with the Moto boxes or is it the hardware and there is nothing to done about it?

MickeyGee
11-27-07, 10:29 AM
Does the Tivo software solve any of the truly annoying "lag" problems with the Moto boxes or is it the hardware and there is nothing to done about it?
That's a good question. And we probably won't have the answer until the early users have a week or two to play with it. If the Tivo software doesn't lag, then this becomes an added reason to upgrade for many of us.

Mickey

chitchatjf
11-27-07, 10:37 AM
More likely December 2007 or January 2008. I think that projecting these minor set-backs into 14 month delays is very off-target.

I was joking :) Besides something else is supposed to happen in Feb 2009.

mgpt6
11-27-07, 12:33 PM
I am worried that Comcast might reduce bit rates on HD channels to make room for HD Channels. Reduce bitrate= poorer PQ. Has been no new annoucements for more analog moves to digital only.

therob006
11-27-07, 02:31 PM
I was joking :) Besides something else is supposed to happen in Feb 2009.

That would be the rush of cable boxes to people who currently have antenna and then Kevin Martin declaring Comcast has surpassed the 70/70 rule thus siezing the industry's version of martial law.

ps2baseball
11-27-07, 08:12 PM
Does the Tivo software solve any of the truly annoying "lag" problems with the Moto boxes or is it the hardware and there is nothing to done about it?

What do you think? As I type this my box has been freezing all night.

Want Tivo? Buy a Tivo. Tivo is offering an HD tivo with lifetime sub for about the cost of paying Comast for it for 36 months. After 36 months it is free, or at least that is when you breakeven.

Gabatta
11-27-07, 08:21 PM
I am worried that Comcast might reduce bit rates on HD channels to make room for HD Channels. Reduce bitrate= poorer PQ. Has been no new annoucements for more analog moves to digital only.

If they do that, then there goes their main advantage over DirecTV (IMO).

jadziedzic
11-27-07, 08:40 PM
Tivo is offering an HD tivo with lifetime sub for about the cost of paying Comast for it for 36 months. After 36 months it is free, or at least that is when you breakeven.

Can you provide a link? I looked on Tivo's Web site and didn't see any lifetime subscription offers (for new customers).

Tony

therob006
11-28-07, 08:40 AM
If they do that, then there goes their main advantage over DirecTV (IMO).

I thought with the launch of DirecTV's new satillite the bit rate was supposed to be similiar to Comcast.

I have a question about HD broadcast and the Patriots radio broadcast. Does anyone know how to align them up because I'm sick of listening to the national broadcasters. I have a Bose surround sound and HD-DVR box.

MickeyGee
11-28-07, 08:47 AM
I thought with the launch of DirecTV's new satillite the bit rate was supposed to be similiar to Comcast.

I have a question about HD broadcast and the Patriots radio broadcast. Does anyone know how to align them up because I'm sick of listening to the national broadcasters. I have a Bose surround sound and HD-DVR box.
I also love the Patriot's radio guys, but the TV audio/video already lags behind the radio audio, so pausing your DVR only increases the lag. We need a radio pause/cache system to make this work. I have never seen anything that would do that, but it would seem possible.

Mickey

Lodef
11-28-07, 08:47 AM
Anyone know if I add NFLnet for tomorrow nights game if there is an an upgrade or downgrade fee associated with it because if not I will keep it for a month and then cancel.

chitchatjf
11-28-07, 09:03 AM
Anyone know if I add NFLnet for tomorrow nights game if there is an an upgrade or downgrade fee associated with it because if not I will keep it for a month and then cancel.

$1.99 upgrade AND downgrade.

therob006
11-28-07, 10:15 AM
Anyone know if I add NFLnet for tomorrow nights game if there is an an upgrade or downgrade fee associated with it because if not I will keep it for a month and then cancel.

From what I read, this is exactly what Comcast is hoping for. People to add the channel for one night and then remove it. This proves to the NFL that majority of people wants a full time NFL network on their basic cable tier.

So figure it will cost you $4.25 to watch the game for that one night.

Gabatta
11-28-07, 10:18 AM
I thought with the launch of DirecTV's new satillite the bit rate was supposed to be similiar to Comcast.

I had heard the same. I set my folks up with esentially my exact same set up (audio & display), but got them DirecTV, while I still use Comcrap. Both display's have been professionally calibrated. To my eye Comcast still is noticably better in term's of 1080i broadcasts. 720p may be more of a toss up (for now), as I am not in the habit of going into the menu to change out put.

Trust me, once PQ is there I will seriously consider making the jump myself. The intergrated HD-TiVo from DTV can not be beat, and I think their audio throughput is superior to Comcast's. The only other real issues I have DTV is the occasional bad weather drop outs, and inability to have a single provider for (cable, phone, internet). $$ up front for the DVR is not an issue for me (hell, looks like we are going to have to go this way with Comcast anyway to get decent TiVo service).

Mgrmitch
11-28-07, 10:42 AM
I have not been able to get either of these channels for over a month. These are the only two channels that do not come. My box 3412 keeps saying one moment please. Have digital starter and classic. Any help of this would be great!

dashford
11-28-07, 12:43 PM
I have a question about HD broadcast and the Patriots radio broadcast. Does anyone know how to align them up because I'm sick of listening to the national broadcasters. I have a Bose surround sound and HD-DVR box.
Can you pick up Boston HD channels OTA? If so, you can watch that, and your DVR is free to handle the audio (with delay). Use the AUDIO IN jacks to hook up your radio, tune in 'BCN, back your DVR up a few seconds, and you should be able to sync the audio with the picture. Then don't touch anything!

Obviously, this won't work for next Monday's game on ESPN-HD, as you need your DVR tuner for that. However, you might also be able to accomplish the same thing (without using the OTA broadcast) if you have a second piece of equipment that lets you watch/listen to a show while you record it, like a DVD recorder. I'll have to test that out with my Panasonic recorder at home.

JDLIVE
11-28-07, 12:55 PM
Can you provide a link? I looked on Tivo's Web site and didn't see any lifetime subscription offers (for new customers).

Tony

http://www3.tivo.com/tivo-promo/show.do?pg=/buytivo/hdgift.html

ps2baseball
11-28-07, 02:45 PM
http://www3.tivo.com/tivo-promo/show.do?pg=/buytivo/hdgift.html

find someone with a tivo and have them gift you one, then give them the cash

rdilliker
11-28-07, 10:18 PM
From what I read, this is exactly what Comcast is hoping for. People to add the channel for one night and then remove it. This proves to the NFL that majority of people wants a full time NFL network on their basic cable tier.

So figure it will cost you $4.25 to watch the game for that one night.

Hmm, when I added whatever package (sports entertainment I think) I needed to get the tennis channel a few months ago and then cancelled because it took forever for them to activate it, I think I got charged something like $10+ for changing my service. I could be wrong but I thought that's how much I was charged.

therob006
11-29-07, 08:08 AM
Hmm, when I added whatever package (sports entertainment I think) I needed to get the tennis channel a few months ago and then cancelled because it took forever for them to activate it, I think I got charged something like $10+ for changing my service. I could be wrong but I thought that's how much I was charged.

Breaks out like this:

$1.99 to upgrade
$0.265 per day
$1.99 to downgrade

If you were charged $10+ dollars then you had to have had the service for at least a month. You could still call in and dispute the charge.

Lodef
11-29-07, 11:29 AM
From what I read, this is exactly what Comcast is hoping for. People to add the channel for one night and then remove it. This proves to the NFL that majority of people wants a full time NFL network on their basic cable tier.

So figure it will cost you $4.25 to watch the game for that one night.

I did say I would keep it for the month which would equal out to 4 games not just the one. But since there is a fee associated with it I will not be getting it and we will all have to go over chitchatjf house to watch it. I'll bring the Beer! :D

chitchatjf
11-29-07, 04:11 PM
I did say I would keep it for the month which would equal out to 4 games not just the one. But since there is a fee associated with it I will not be getting it and we will all have to go over chitchatjf house to watch it. I'll bring the Beer! :D

Am I the only person around that HAS NFL Network? It's going to be a great game tonight :)

jwciv
11-29-07, 04:24 PM
Am I the only person around that HAS NFL Network? It's going to be a great game tonight :)
those of us with DirecTV have it :)

rdilliker
11-29-07, 06:54 PM
Breaks out like this:

$1.99 to upgrade
$0.265 per day
$1.99 to downgrade

If you were charged $10+ dollars then you had to have had the service for at least a month. You could still call in and dispute the charge.

Cool, I only "had the service" for a few hours but maybe the charge was ~$4 I don't remember. I disputed it successfully anyways since they never told me I would be charged for upgrading or downgrading.

Gabatta
11-29-07, 08:12 PM
Am I the only person around that HAS NFL Network? It's going to be a great game tonight :)

I've got it. I wasn't sure at first (though for the size of my bill, I damn well better). Should be a good game. Bryant Gumball and the NFL Network announcers are purely painful though.

rdilliker
11-29-07, 08:31 PM
I've got it. I wasn't sure at first (though for the size of my bill, I damn well better). Should be a good game. Bryant Gumball and the NFL Network announcers are purely painful though.

Yeah, I just got it a few hours ago and you are right, Gumbel is terrible. I like Collinsworth but they need Al Michaels with him.

therob006
11-30-07, 01:26 PM
I've got it. I wasn't sure at first (though for the size of my bill, I damn well better). Should be a good game. Bryant Gumball and the NFL Network announcers are purely painful though.

I have the NFL Network but I went to see the Celtics destroy the Knicks at the new Gahgen. Must better then HD when Posey took out the Celtics announces Grandy and Max. They should have Michaels and Madden on the side line so we can watch Harrison take them out.

snooz123
11-30-07, 02:37 PM
Anyone else have problems with TNT HD? The PQ gets blotchy and pixelizes. It's the only channel I have problems with.

JoeBloggz
11-30-07, 04:03 PM
Anyone else have problems with TNT HD? The PQ gets blotchy and pixelizes. It's the only channel I have problems with.

That's typical of TNT-HD, especially their basketball coverage. The overall picture is extremely soft, lacks detail and some of the worst pixelation I've seen on HD. Even worse then NBC sports at times. Its too bad they carry so many good NBA games. Their HD basketball production has been pretty bad for some time now.

chaz01
11-30-07, 04:18 PM
That's typical of TNT-HD, especially their basketball coverage. The overall picture is extremely soft, lacks detail and some of the worst pixelation I've seen on HD. Even worse then NBC sports at times. Its too bad they carry so many good NBA games. Their HD basketball production has been pretty bad for some time now.

agreed

therob006
11-30-07, 05:39 PM
That's typical of TNT-HD, especially their basketball coverage. The overall picture is extremely soft, lacks detail and some of the worst pixelation I've seen on HD. Even worse then NBC sports at times. Its too bad they carry so many good NBA games. Their HD basketball production has been pretty bad for some time now.

The TNT-HD broadcast does not look bad but then again, I didn't watch it because I was at the game. It is certainly not as good as the movie channels but I'll take widescreen over stretched picture any day.

Maybe I'm not looking at it right or really paying attention. But I think the best HD is the movie channels or NESN.

Mike_Boulanger
12-01-07, 09:58 AM
Anyone else have problems with TNT HD? The PQ gets blotchy and pixelizes. It's the only channel I have problems with.

I was actually just coming here to post about this! Very blotchy, and intermittent red areas. At first I thought it was my setup, but the other HD channels seem great. ESPN HD's broadcast of the Celtics/Heat game last night was 10x better.

I've noticed this pixelization on TBS as well, which I believe is related to TNT. So that explains it.

Glad it's not just me!

Eric89GXL
12-01-07, 03:38 PM
Anyone else have problems with TNT HD? The PQ gets blotchy and pixelizes. It's the only channel I have problems with.

I've seen this type of problem on every 1080i channel: CBS, NBC, PBS, and TNT in descending order of quality. CBS is the only 1080 channel I watch that does a respectable job with their HD, and their picture quality is still not as good as the 720p channels I watch such as ESPN, ABC, or FOX. TNT does an especially bad job, but I see degraded picture quality on 1080i channels in general compared to 720p channels.

mgpt6
12-01-07, 07:44 PM
I read in the "next channel Comcast " thread that in the City of Boston and Brookline that every channel is digital only accept for broadcast locals up to Ch.23? Is this true?

L Supreme
12-01-07, 10:27 PM
I read in the "next channel Comcast " thread that in the City of Boston and Brookline that every channel is digital only accept for broadcast locals up to Ch.23? Is this true?


Yes this is true. The only analog channels are the basic ones; to get anything above basic a digital box is required.

chitchatjf
12-02-07, 08:37 AM
Yes this is true. The only analog channels are the basic ones; to get anything above basic a digital box is required.

This is the way it should be everywhere However,I would have channels in Digital Starter non encrypted so those with a QAM tuner can get them.

L Supreme
12-02-07, 10:33 AM
This is the way it should be everywhere However,I would have channels in Digital Starter non encrypted so those with a QAM tuner can get them.


I agree, but I doubt the customer that has 5 TVs with standard cable agrees. With the current box prices, that particular customers bill will go up almost $36 for equipment cost.

Nascar#43
12-02-07, 12:59 PM
L Supreme, Are there any plans at Comcast to have just a "HD package" without the pay movies. Having to pay more for 5 HD channels is just not right, isn't pay 52.00 a month enough not counting the HD DVR of 16.00.

mgpt6
12-02-07, 03:56 PM
L Supreme, is Boston/Brookline still dual 450Mhz system(legacy from cablevision) or is it up to 750 Mhz system?

chitchatjf
12-02-07, 06:03 PM
I agree, but I doubt the customer that has 5 TVs with standard cable agrees. With the current box prices, that particular customers bill will go up almost $36 for equipment cost.

This is why digital starter channels would not be encrypted.

rdilliker
12-02-07, 06:03 PM
Does L Supreme work for Comcast?

kenvt
12-02-07, 08:32 PM
so on 12/4 when GSN moves to digital what do you think we will see ? NHL-HD ?

-Ken

hibricc
12-02-07, 09:04 PM
Does L Supreme work for Comcast?

LSupreme has proven to be a reliable source for Comcast-related information on this forum. But I honestly can't imagine any Comcast employee wanting to "self-identify" on here, and subject themselves to the constant harassment that would doubtless follow. And for legal reasons, I also can't imagine that Comcast would want any employee to present themselves as a spokesperson for the company, unless that were their official responsibility.

L Supreme
12-02-07, 09:23 PM
L Supreme, Are there any plans at Comcast to have just a "HD package" without the pay movies. Having to pay more for 5 HD channels is just not right, isn't pay 52.00 a month enough not counting the HD DVR of 16.00.

Not to my knowledge

L Supreme, is Boston/Brookline still dual 450Mhz system(legacy from cablevision) or is it up to 750 Mhz system?

its no longer a dual system

This is why digital starter channels would not be encrypted.

but not all TVs have a qam tuner so the majority of people will still have to pay for boxes.

chitchatjf
12-02-07, 09:38 PM
so on 12/4 when GSN moves to digital what do you think we will see ? NHL-HD ?

-Ken

I would say so. Perhaps one or two others as well. SciFi perhaps?

JM22681
12-02-07, 09:49 PM
I would say so. Perhaps one or two others as well. SciFi perhaps?

DirecTV recently got VH1HD and MTVHD. These would be great additions!

Does anyone know if E! or Comedy Central have HD channels yet?

ps2baseball
12-02-07, 10:16 PM
if I have a QAM tuner do I need a box at all?

kenvt
12-02-07, 10:31 PM
DirecTV recently got VH1HD and MTVHD. These would be great additions!

Does anyone know if E! or Comedy Central have HD channels yet?

If VH1HD and MTVHD are anything like MHD they can keep them.

-Ken

crcraig41us
12-02-07, 10:34 PM
I have a TiVo Series 3 with CableCards, and the TiVo is set to output in native format, so my TV receives 480i, 720p, and 1080i signals and does the necessary conversion. I am pretty sure that WCVB-DT (805) used to be exclusively 720p, but yesterday I noticed that all programming on that channel is being sent as 1080i. Today I double-checked, and even primetime stuff (Desparate Housewives) is in 1080i. I thought ABC was solely 720p? Did they change formats? Or is it possible that a misconfigured CableCard and/or TiVo could do this? (I don't think so, but maybe I don't understand this stuff that well...)

chitchatjf
12-03-07, 06:29 AM
If VH1HD and MTVHD are anything like MHD they can keep them.

-Ken

At least MHD has music.

therob006
12-03-07, 09:27 AM
L Supreme, is Boston/Brookline still dual 450Mhz system(legacy from cablevision) or is it up to 750 Mhz system?

It has been a 750 Mhz system for several years. Since digital was brought into Boston, the "B" side was dropped. Technically, it is still there and would be great if they would use it to deliver more content.

DirecTV recently got VH1HD and MTVHD. These would be great additions!

Does anyone know if E! or Comedy Central have HD channels yet?

I hope we never see VH1HD or MTVHD. The current programming on the SD versions are horrible. At least MHD plays music. It is mostly concerts that were filmed in HD which is so much enjoyable the "I Love New York" in HD.

if I have a QAM tuner do I need a box at all?

Yes, if you want more then just basic channels in HD.

grampy
12-03-07, 10:09 AM
I have a TiVo Series 3 with CableCards, and the TiVo is set to output in native format, so my TV receives 480i, 720p, and 1080i signals and does the necessary conversion. I am pretty sure that WCVB-DT (805) used to be exclusively 720p, but yesterday I noticed that all programming on that channel is being sent as 1080i. Today I double-checked, and even primetime stuff (Desparate Housewives) is in 1080i. I thought ABC was solely 720p? Did they change formats? Or is it possible that a misconfigured CableCard and/or TiVo could do this? (I don't think so, but maybe I don't understand this stuff that well...) I noticed this as well last night when watching the news at 11 through coax (no stb), my TV indicated it was 1080i when in the past it indicated 720P, I don't think its a problem with your cable cards.

Hopstretch
12-03-07, 01:48 PM
Hi all. New here. Finally got Comcast to find me a working cablecard for my TIVO HD. One question, I'm seeing quite a few HD channels listed in the guide that aren't available to me for some reason (grey screen), including NESN HD, which is the only one I particularly care about. Comcast hasn't suddenly gone SDV around here, has it?

therob006
12-03-07, 01:56 PM
Hi all. New here. Finally got Comcast to find me a working cablecard for my TIVO HD. One question, I'm seeing quite a few HD channels listed in the guide that aren't available to me for some reason (grey screen), including NESN HD, which is the only one I particularly care about. Comcast hasn't suddenly gone SDV around here, has it?

Not as of yet but you may want to check your packaging to make sure you have the right level of service. Basic + Digital Classic just doesn't cut it any more. A solid grey screen maybe more of a signal problem then not being authorized for the channel.

Hopstretch
12-03-07, 02:09 PM
Thanks. I have Digital Preferred + HD, so I'm pretty sure they're in my package. I'll run channel setup again tonight when I have time. Would there be other signs of signal weakness? The channels that are there look as they should.

therob006
12-03-07, 03:02 PM
Thanks. I have Digital Preferred + HD, so I'm pretty sure they're in my package. I'll run channel setup again tonight when I have time. Would there be other signs of signal weakness? The channels that are there look as they should.

Basic with digital preferred or digital starter with digital preferred. There is a difference, just do not go by what the web site says.

A good test for signal I found was VOD. Try a few free programs from different categories.

ps2baseball
12-03-07, 04:11 PM
Yes, if you want more then just basic channels in HD.

But will I get SD channel's 1-100 for example with a QAM, or just locals?

cutter44
12-03-07, 04:36 PM
Not sure if this should be in its own thread or if it's okay to ask here, so feel free to move it if you need to.

I have a 42" Olevia HDTV that we just plugged the Comcast coax cable into and let it scan for channels. We do not have a set-top box. We have a quite a few more channels than we had before, but that's probably because the TV has ATSC/NTSC and QAM tuner built in. On the chance that it might make a difference, I just picked up an HD receiver from the local Comcast office and hooked it up via the component inputs/outputs.

To be honest, the HD channels through the new receiver frankly don't look any better than they did just coming through the cable into the TV. We can get about a half dozen more (which we don't watch) via the receiver, but I wonder if it's worth the extra $9/mo., especially since it also means dealing with yet another %$#!^% remote.

Am I crazy or could HD throught the straight cable be the same quality as it is through the new HD receiver?

Thanks for any input.

bicker1
12-03-07, 04:46 PM
But will I get SD channel's 1-100 for example with a QAM, or just locals?Typically just the locals and a few others. Definitely not 100 channels.

bicker1
12-03-07, 04:48 PM
To be honest, the HD channels through the new receiver frankly don't look any better than they did just coming through the cable into the TV. ... Am I crazy or could HD throught the straight cable be the same quality as it is through the new HD receiver?Not suprising, really. Given that we're talking digital, why would you expect a big difference?

Eric89GXL
12-03-07, 05:02 PM
Am I crazy or could HD throught the straight cable be the same quality as it is through the new HD receiver?

I wouldn't be surprised if HD straight though the cable to your TV actually looked /better/ than HD through the box. There are at least four reasons for this.

1) Your TV will likely scale/resample and process video differently from your cable box, which could look subjectively better (especially since the Syntax people presumably engineered the tuner to work ideally with your TV). When I hooked up my signal through my computer and let my computer decode the MPEG2 and (via a newer NVIDIA video card) do the displaying via HDMI, HD looked significantly better than HD over the cable box through HDMI. The colors and contrast looked better, for example.

2) The connection type matters. When you run cable to your TV, that's a digital signal---it won't suffer from the same type of signal degradation as an analog signal. Your TV decodes the MPEG2 stream from the QAM on the cable and displays it, probably keeping the signal digital as long as possible. When you hook up via component, you are using an analog signal which may or may not have lower quality than digital. In my system there was an improvement when I went from component to HDMI (which is digital) cable box hookup.

3) The contrast, brightness, gamma, color, etc. settings may differ between the two TV input modes you used (presumably QAM/cable and component).

4) The output mode of the cable box may not have been set to the optimal format for your TV. You can tell the cable box to output 480p, 720p or 1080i, so your box may not have been putting out your native resolution. This could cause some badness, such as signals being twice resampled.

Long story short, if extra channels didn't matter, I wouldn't use the box.

Eric

cutter44
12-03-07, 05:06 PM
Not suprising, really. Given that we're talking digital, why would you expect a big difference?

That had been my thinking, but when I picked up the box, they said it would be "a big difference" because the box is doing the converting or whatever. I'll probably end up taking it back in a week if I find it really isn't worth it.

mgpt6
12-03-07, 06:56 PM
I am suprised that we never heard many complaints from Boston or Brookline on this thread if the only analog channels are the broadcast OTAs and the PEG channels.If this true, are there any Boston readers to this thread that remember if Comcast sent out literaure when this happened.

geoff2
12-03-07, 07:01 PM
I am suprised that we never heard many complaints from Boston or Brookline on this thread if the only analog channels are the broadcast OTAs and the PEG channels.If this true, are there any Boston readers to this thread that remember if Comcast sent out literaure when this happened.
That is the case -- in Brookline we lost our last few non-OTA/PEG analog channels, including MSNBC, CNBC and Spike a few weeks ago. I don't remember getting any notice in the mail about this, or about any earlier analog shut-offs.

chitchatjf
12-03-07, 07:41 PM
but not all TVs have a qam tuner so the majority of people will still have to pay for boxes.

OK so it is a rerun if the early 80s when they had channels 14-36 and many folks only had VHF/UHF tuners.

My idea would have EVERY Digital starter channel UNencrypted but within the 24-69 area where the limited basic filters trap signals.

For channels like ESPN I would have ONLY the HD signal unencrypted :)

chitchatjf
12-03-07, 07:46 PM
Thanks. I have Digital Preferred + HD, so I'm pretty sure they're in my package. I'll run channel setup again tonight when I have time. Would there be other signs of signal weakness? The channels that are there look as they should.

Without a box or cable card the only digital channels you will get are locals (including HD locals :D), other channels in limited basic,and wild ON Demand feeds.

Hopstretch
12-04-07, 07:52 AM
Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. I have a cable card in my Tivo HD and am receiving most of my channels just fine. But a few HD channels are not coming through at all even though they are included in my programming tier.

chitchatjf
12-04-07, 09:59 AM
GSN has kicked in full time on 267.

HOWEVER 68 is still running informericals. :(

so much for freed bandwidth for NHL and hopefully Sci Fi HD.

noontime has arrived and GSN is sort of still on 68. (The digital 267 is encrypted and is on channel 88 while analog 68 is unencrypted and on 83 along with digital feeds of a number of other SD channels.)

toastyfries
12-04-07, 10:42 AM
Typically just the locals and a few others. Definitely not 100 channels.

Wow, this is depressing. I'm moving to the Boston area in a couple months and only getting the locals without a cable box is not good. This will make me have to seriously consider the satellites as the extra cable boxes they require are the one thing that was holding me back.

bicker1
12-04-07, 01:03 PM
GSN has kicked in full time on 267. HOWEVER 68 is still running informericals. :( so much for freed bandwidth for NHL and hopefully Sci Fi HD.I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. Perhaps they're giving people a few days to make the switch.

Incidentally, I'm showing NHL tonight on Versus HD...

Wow, this is depressing. I'm moving to the Boston area in a couple months and only getting the locals without a cable box is not good. This will make me have to seriously consider the satellites as the extra cable boxes they require are the one thing that was holding me back.Think of it this way: If they didn't require a box or CableCards for the higher levels of service, they'd have no cost-effective way of keeping the folks who don't purchase higher levels of service from tuning into those higher levels of service.

chitchatjf
12-04-07, 04:03 PM
I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. Perhaps they're giving people a few days to make the switch.

Incidentally, I'm showing NHL tonight on Versus HD...


which is part of Versus's regular schedule. As for GSN it is good to have it FULL TIME!


Think of it this way: If they didn't require a box or CableCards for the higher levels of service, they'd have no cost-effective way of keeping the folks who don't purchase higher levels of service from tuning into those higher levels of service.

I still say digital starter channels should run unencrypted within that filter

bicker1
12-04-07, 04:42 PM
What do you mean "within that filter"?

therob006
12-04-07, 04:43 PM
GSN has kicked in full time on 267.

HOWEVER 68 is still running informericals. :(

so much for freed bandwidth for NHL and hopefully Sci Fi HD.

noontime has arrived and GSN is sort of still on 68. (The digital 267 is encrypted and is on channel 88 while analog 68 is unencrypted and on 83 along with digital feeds of a number of other SD channels.)

It is only a matter of time before channel 68 is turned off ad HD stations show up. However, this is a "leased access" channel which means local companies and nonprofit organizations can use this area to broadcast their comercials. FCC actually wants Comcast to carry more of these channels.

Wow, this is depressing. I'm moving to the Boston area in a couple months and only getting the locals without a cable box is not good. This will make me have to seriously consider the satellites as the extra cable boxes they require are the one thing that was holding me back.

Are you refering to either Boston/Brookline or the surrounding towns? Need HD boxes for HD channels anyways if you want anything more then just basic. Back when I lived in Boston (cirea 1993-1999), I had to have an analog box because Boston was a dual cable system (A side and B Side). Due to the high turnover of students, it makes financial sense to leave basic on as opposed to leaving standard cable turned on. Sure you need boxes for every TV in your house but then again you need boxes for every TV in your house for satellite also and they charge more then Comcast does for extra boxes. So how is this depressing?

toastyfries
12-04-07, 06:16 PM
Are you refering to either Boston/Brookline or the surrounding towns? Need HD boxes for HD channels anyways if you want anything more then just basic. Back when I lived in Boston (cirea 1993-1999), I had to have an analog box because Boston was a dual cable system (A side and B Side). Due to the high turnover of students, it makes financial sense to leave basic on as opposed to leaving standard cable turned on. Sure you need boxes for every TV in your house but then again you need boxes for every TV in your house for satellite also and they charge more then Comcast does for extra boxes. So how is this depressing?

Depressing because right now I have a ATSC/QAM/NTSC combination of recorders on my MythTV. If all of expanded cable is encrypted QAM there is no straightforward way to record networks like FX, USA, & CartoonNetwork. In the past I ruled out satalite because that would require setting up setup boxes for the recorder with IR blasters, cable was easier.

But to your first question, I actually won't be in Boston or Brookline, but one of the towns to the north, but still inside 95. I'm just starting to look into the options for when I move and need to go back and read some of the thread history. I'm starting to get the feeling that the features may vary from town to town.

One HD box for the main TV I don't mind paying for, but I really don't want to be paying an extra fee each month for each TV/recorder.

therob006
12-04-07, 07:40 PM
Depressing because right now I have a ATSC/QAM/NTSC combination of recorders on my MythTV. If all of expanded cable is encrypted QAM there is no straightforward way to record networks like FX, USA, & CartoonNetwork. In the past I ruled out satalite because that would require setting up setup boxes for the recorder with IR blasters, cable was easier.

But to your first question, I actually won't be in Boston or Brookline, but one of the towns to the north, but still inside 95. I'm just starting to look into the options for when I move and need to go back and read some of the thread history. I'm starting to get the feeling that the features may vary from town to town.

One HD box for the main TV I don't mind paying for, but I really don't want to be paying an extra fee each month for each TV/recorder.

If you live north of Boston, then you would receive the analog version of those channels. You might be able to get the digital version of those channels. I haven't played with my HDTV without the cable card in a while.

chitchatjf
12-04-07, 11:52 PM
What do you mean "within that filter"?

The filter that blocks analog channels 24-69 (and the encrypted HD signals for Discovery,CNN,History channel and AnE)

Running channels in digital starter unencrypted within that filter locks them out for basic only customers and allows those with QAM tuners to use them (as it seems cable card slots are not on all digital TVs)

OTOH what to do about Disney,Nick East,HGTV,Headline News,Cspan,Weather channel and Food Network?

bicker1
12-05-07, 05:58 AM
Are you talking about a physical filter? Still? Who would use such technology anymore?

IndieRockSteve
12-05-07, 08:34 AM
Depressing because right now I have a ATSC/QAM/NTSC combination of recorders on my MythTV. If all of expanded cable is encrypted QAM there is no straightforward way to record networks like FX, USA, & CartoonNetwork. In the past I ruled out satalite because that would require setting up setup boxes for the recorder with IR blasters, cable was easier.

But to your first question, I actually won't be in Boston or Brookline, but one of the towns to the north, but still inside 95. I'm just starting to look into the options for when I move and need to go back and read some of the thread history. I'm starting to get the feeling that the features may vary from town to town.

One HD box for the main TV I don't mind paying for, but I really don't want to be paying an extra fee each month for each TV/recorder.


I live in Brookline and have MythTV setup. right now I have 3 ATSC/QAM tuners and two Motorola cable boxes connected via firewire. Comcast here has 5C disabled for all but VOD and the Premium Movie channels (HBO, Cine, Show, etc), so I'm able to record everything over firewire from them.

Works quite well and keeps all 4 people I live with happy.

jwciv
12-05-07, 08:36 AM
Are you talking about a physical filter? Still? Who would use such technology anymore?

We used to have physical filters near the point that the RG6 entered the house. With so many people disconnecting them, they have been moved to the telephone poles to discourage would be climbers.

bicker1
12-05-07, 12:28 PM
Regardless of where they're placed, swapping them in or out is exceedingly expensive. They're old technology and I would not be surprised to see cable systems abandon them in favor of STB decryption.

ps2baseball
12-05-07, 02:34 PM
how do I get the new style DCH-3416?

therob006
12-05-07, 02:45 PM
Regardless of where they're placed, swapping them in or out is exceedingly expensive. They're old technology and I would not be surprised to see cable systems abandon them in favor of STB decryption.

Only outside of Boston/Brookline are filters used. If filters were not used, then everyone would need to have cable boxes for every TV in there home. That would cost subscribers more money per month then it would cost Comcast to add or remove a filter during installation. It maybe old technology but it is effective.

how do I get the new style DCH-3416?

Bring your old box into the office if there is any available. I've seen the new ones at my friend's home. The front shows "standby" when its off and the picture resolution when its on. No other difference.

Lodef
12-05-07, 08:41 PM
Anyone else experiencing break ups during the Bruins Game?

kcalccal
12-05-07, 09:40 PM
Anyone else experiencing break ups during the Bruins Game?

I thought it was my set. I'm in Bristol County and I've had a few problems with channels tonight in HD and SD. Bruins kept breaking up the whole game, much like they did after getting a 3-goal lead.

eddielives
12-05-07, 09:50 PM
Both my boxes (DCH3416 and a DCT3416) were breaking up during the game.

My wife said TBSHD was breaking up tonight as well.

I'm in Clinton.

Litning
12-06-07, 07:32 AM
I've been having breakup issues on cnn hd, tnt hd, tbs hd and discovery hd with breakups. It all started a few days ago

hibricc
12-06-07, 09:11 AM
I had breakups on MHD last night, watching Green Day for the umpteenth time.

Lodef
12-06-07, 10:03 AM
This seems to be widespread. Is Comcast tinkering around with the bandwidth to see how much they can get by with if they are going to add more HD channels? If it is, then I am very concerned that our stellar HD PQ will start going downhill. Let me be the first to say the hell with more channels and lets keep the Quality of what we already have at it's highest bitrate!

cooper1010
12-06-07, 10:44 AM
I had breakups on MHD last night, watching Green Day for the umpteenth time.


tbshd, spike, hbohd, and tlc i think were all terrible pq wise last night. and now, on demand isn't working. they must be screwing with something

Litning
12-06-07, 02:44 PM
tbshd, spike, hbohd, and tlc i think were all terrible pq wise last night. and now, on demand isn't working. they must be screwing with something

on demand is working up here, but i am still getting a bit of breakup, but not as bad... right now on BBC america, things are "spot on"

cutter44
12-06-07, 02:46 PM
Just a little update after several days with the HD receiver from Comcast.

While I'll still trying to tell whether any minor improvement I may be seeing via the HD receiver is worth the extra $8/mo., we have noticed one odd tidbit. Not sure if it's a coincidence or not, but we are no longer receiving the TV Guide channel lineup on channel 3. Now it's NECN on Channel 3. I guess I can understand that on the TV with the receiver, as it has its own Guide, but we also lost it on all the other TVs in the house. I didn't upgrade to anything other than the HD extra as far as I know. Also, we've lost MTV totally. It used to be on channel 75, but now there's nothing there.

Any idea what might be going on? I'll probably call Comcast to ask, but figured I'd ask the experts here as well.

Thanks.

MegaPrime33
12-06-07, 03:34 PM
Forgive me if this has been answered or discussed before, but I plan on upgrading my HD box to a HD-DVR and was wondering which one is the better one to get? Also, when I order it, do request that model or would it be selected as a default?

bicker1
12-06-07, 03:35 PM
Generally, you're provided whatever DVR they have available. You don't select which one.

chitchatjf
12-06-07, 07:28 PM
Where is Tivo?

They now have a video up on it on demand and it says it is a matter of just downloading it. :)

skimoney22
12-06-07, 08:00 PM
Just a little update after several days with the HD receiver from Comcast.

While I'll still trying to tell whether any minor improvement I may be seeing via the HD receiver is worth the extra $8/mo., we have noticed one odd tidbit. Not sure if it's a coincidence or not, but we are no longer receiving the TV Guide channel lineup on channel 3. Now it's NECN on Channel 3. I guess I can understand that on the TV with the receiver, as it has its own Guide, but we also lost it on all the other TVs in the house. I didn't upgrade to anything other than the HD extra as far as I know. Also, we've lost MTV totally. It used to be on channel 75, but now there's nothing there.

Any idea what might be going on? I'll probably call Comcast to ask, but figured I'd ask the experts here as well.

Thanks.

I live down on the Cape. We had TV Guide moved, it was replaced by NECN on channel 3. I dont know where they are moving the guide to, but they also moved MTV from 75 to 77.

Comcast sent out a notice in the mail last month, which stated we would be getting HistoryHD on December 4th. We would also be losing 3 analog channels, HBO, Show., Cinemax (there goes my black box). On the 4th we started getting a new HD channel. DiscoveryHD, not HistoryHD.

Much to my surprise, today without any notice, we started receiving HistoryHD, and USAHD.

Also, does anyone get the NBA games on MOJO, or are they blacked out for all Comcast subscribers in Mass?

DaveFi
12-06-07, 08:13 PM
Where is Tivo?

They now have a video up on it on demand and it says it is a matter of just downloading it. :)Gee. I just said to my box, "Download TiVo!" and there it was!;)

I'll call them up tommorow, but I wonder if they'll even be aware of it. Besides, I still need to go down to my office to get the TiVo remote, and try to attempt to get the box with the larger harddrive.

therob006
12-06-07, 08:19 PM
Where is Tivo?

They now have a video up on it on demand and it says it is a matter of just downloading it. :)

where do you see that on demand?

DaveFi
12-06-07, 08:27 PM
where do you see that on demand?Help and Services.

Litning
12-06-07, 09:05 PM
Help and Services.

i try help and i get a "service is unavailable" message... kind of fitting i guess

DaveFi
12-06-07, 09:45 PM
i try help and i get a "service is unavailable" message... kind of fitting i guessIt will probably show up, it just needs time to filter down. I don't know if all regions will get it first too. Here in Natick we're likely to get things first as we have a very high median income, plus Comcast feels the need to compete with Verizon FIOS.

Litning
12-06-07, 09:47 PM
It will probably show up, it just needs time to filter down. I don't know if all regions will get it first too. Here in Natick we're likely to get things first as we have a very high median income, plus Comcast feels the need to compete with Verizon FIOS.

no, i mean the help feature doesnt' work at all... hasn't in over a year from what i can remember

eddielives
12-06-07, 11:47 PM
I was told by a CSR that some areas will be getting it on Monday (we'll see). I hope shes right, and I hope Dave gets it in Natick, cuz she told me I'm SOL here in Clinton. I'm hoping you'll give a review if you get it.
The previews looked pretty good in the "help" section. I have a feeling this will be a heavy learning curve since my wife and I have been using a Replay, and the Comcast HD-DVRs for years (I think they're similar). I'm willing to pony up the few bucks a month to find out. I think, if possible, I'll put it on the DHC3416 in the livingroom, and leave the DCT3416 in the bedroom alone to start.

dtc
12-07-07, 08:15 AM
Also, does anyone get the NBA games on MOJO, or are they blacked out for all Comcast subscribers in Mass?

I get non-celtics NBA games on MOJO in Billerica. The only game that was blacked out was the Celtics at Cleveland game. Was it just the Cleveland game that was blacked out for you or is it all of them?

chitchatjf
12-07-07, 08:16 AM
I have had a Tivo (Series 1) until the HD DVR came out from comcast.

What I'm looking forward to is the search integration with On Demand,the rerurn of thwe Tivo beep,and the up down arrows

therob006
12-07-07, 08:23 AM
I get non-celtics NBA games on MOJO in Billerica. The only game that was blacked out was the Celtics at Cleveland game. Was it just the Cleveland game that was blacked out for you or is it all of them?

All Celtics home games are on HD on channel 881. Comcast interupts the Mojo feed to put on Comcast Sportsnet. Other times, Mojo picks up the NBA TV HD feed to show NBA games. So if NBA TV is carrying a Celtics game, it should get blacked out under regional sports rules.

cooper1010
12-07-07, 01:20 PM
<snip>Comcast sent out a notice in the mail last month, which stated we would be getting HistoryHD on December 4th. We would also be losing 3 analog channels, HBO, Show., Cinemax (there goes my black box). On the 4th we started getting a new HD channel. DiscoveryHD, not HistoryHD.

Much to my surprise, today without any notice, we started receiving HistoryHD, and USAHD.

<snip>

we've been getting these for a couple of weeks now (unless you're an old adelphia customer; maybe that's the difference)

skimoney22
12-07-07, 07:03 PM
I get non-celtics NBA games on MOJO in Billerica. The only game that was blacked out was the Celtics at Cleveland game. Was it just the Cleveland game that was blacked out for you or is it all of them?

I'm in Falmouth, we dont get any of the games at all.
We used to have Adelphia, so I dont know if that might matter?
I used to get the NHL on HDNET, but it sucks Comcast that Comcast dropped it.

macd23
12-08-07, 06:41 PM
Does anyone have any inside knowledge of the lack of road games in HD for the celtics. I understand they are the last major Boston sports team to not have all games in HD...........CSN's website says they are working on it. This article from Boston Sports media watch suggests sometime this season:

http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/archives/2007/11/the_celtics_road_games_hd_ques.php

Anyone have an inside info?

chitchatjf
12-08-07, 08:51 PM
I was told by a CSR that some areas will be getting it on Monday (we'll see). I hope shes right, and I hope Dave gets it in Natick, cuz she told me I'm SOL here in Clinton. I'm hoping you'll give a review if you get it.
The previews looked pretty good in the "help" section. I have a feeling this will be a heavy learning curve since my wife and I have been using a Replay, and the Comcast HD-DVRs for years (I think they're similar). I'm willing to pony up the few bucks a month to find out. I think, if possible, I'll put it on the DHC3416 in the livingroom, and leave the DCT3416 in the bedroom alone to start.

I wouldn't be surprised if they put it off again. At least I will have Thursday and Saturday free if appointments will be needed.

chrisgeleven
12-09-07, 08:03 AM
Does anyone have any inside knowledge of the lack of road games in HD for the celtics. I understand they are the last major Boston sports team to not have all games in HD...........CSN's website says they are working on it. This article from Boston Sports media watch suggests sometime this season:

http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/archives/2007/11/the_celtics_road_games_hd_ques.php

Anyone have an inside info?

That is all the info we know. Supposedly it is Comcast's priority to get Celtics road games in HD and it will happen sometime this season.

Elevatorguy
12-09-07, 10:08 AM
OK here's the deal. I picked up my new Sony 46v3000 last Saturday. Everything was fine until last night. Suddenly, all the 16:9 HD stations shrunk to a size smaller horizontally than the 4:3 SD stations. That is, the height is the same as the 4:3 stations but they are narrower instead of being wider. The black bars on the sides are nearly twice as wide as they are with the 4:3 stations. The "zoom mode" is still set to normal as it always was. The SD stations are still in the normal 4:3 size. I have basic cable through Comcast (with no box, just the coax right into the TV) and am picking up the HD stations through my QAM tuner. The status bar on the TV says 1080i and 16:9 mode, but it is definitely not. My question is this. Is it a problem with the set itself or has Comcast done something to alter the signal and make the TV display the signal this way? Any help will be greatly appreciated. By the way, I also tried to do a master reset on the TV by holding down the up arrow and pushing the power button but it did didn't even power off.

Lodef
12-09-07, 11:00 AM
OK here's the deal. I picked up my new Sony 46v3000 last Saturday. Everything was fine until last night. Suddenly, all the 16:9 HD stations shrunk to a size smaller horizontally than the 4:3 SD stations. That is, the height is the same as the 4:3 stations but they are narrower instead of being wider. The black bars on the sides are nearly twice as wide as they are with the 4:3 stations. The "zoom mode" is still set to normal as it always was. The SD stations are still in the normal 4:3 size. I have basic cable through Comcast (with no box, just the coax right into the TV) and am picking up the HD stations through my QAM tuner. The status bar on the TV says 1080i and 16:9 mode, but it is definitely not. My question is this. Is it a problem with the set itself or has Comcast done something to alter the signal and make the TV display the signal this way? Any help will be greatly appreciated. By the way, I also tried to do a master reset on the TV by holding down the up arrow and pushing the power button but it did didn't even power off.

I believe it has to do with your TV set, I have 2 QAM tuners and they are working just fine so I don't think the problem is with Comcast. Try tinkering with your display settings, If the problem persist, I would let the place you bought it from know about it in case it is a defect in your unit.

grampy
12-09-07, 11:13 AM
OK here's the deal. I picked up my new Sony 46v3000 last Saturday. Everything was fine until last night. Suddenly, all the 16:9 HD stations shrunk to a size smaller horizontally than the 4:3 SD stations. That is, the height is the same as the 4:3 stations but they are narrower instead of being wider. The black bars on the sides are nearly twice as wide as they are with the 4:3 stations. The "zoom mode" is still set to normal as it always was. The SD stations are still in the normal 4:3 size. I have basic cable through Comcast (with no box, just the coax right into the TV) and am picking up the HD stations through my QAM tuner. The status bar on the TV says 1080i and 16:9 mode, but it is definitely not. My question is this. Is it a problem with the set itself or has Comcast done something to alter the signal and make the TV display the signal this way? Any help will be greatly appreciated. By the way, I also tried to do a master reset on the TV by holding down the up arrow and pushing the power button but it did didn't even power off.I don't have this problem with my 46W3000 when viewing locals in hd thru coax. With my tv, the "wide mode" setting should be "Full", not "Normal", when viewing 16:9 on full screen (no bars). Not sure if its the same for the V3000.

Elevatorguy
12-09-07, 12:41 PM
Here are some pics of the situation. The first 2 are the HD version of the station. Notice the 1080i on the status bar as well as the "normal" in the wide mode setting. By the way, even if I set the wide mode to "full" when on the HD stations, the picture stretches out to about where the 4:3 lands on an SD station. Again please look at the pics and notice how narrow the HD picture is.

L Supreme
12-09-07, 12:48 PM
what happens on pbs hd?

Elevatorguy
12-09-07, 12:52 PM
On PBS HD in NORMAL on the width selection, the show appears as roughly the same size as a 4:3 show would. It does NOT take up the whole screen unless I put it onto "FULL". Putting in into "FULL" on the other HD stations only stretches the image to roughly a 4:3 size and doesn't use the whole screen area.

macd23
12-09-07, 12:58 PM
To avoid confusion, leave your tv on "normal" all the time. Forget the other settings (wide zoom, full, zoom -those will all distort the picture).

Also, are you watching over one of the HD video modes (component or hdmi)? What is your source, cable hd box? Make sure its using the proper cables and you are viewing over the HD video mode setting on the TV.

Lastly, if you have a motorola comcast cable box, turn off the power on it. Press 'menu' on the remote to go into the cable box service menu and make sure the output is 720p or 1080i (otherwise the box won't output HD) -sometimes the cable tech forgets this.

And just to overstate the obvious make sure you are watching on the HD version of the channel. Some HD channels don't always show HD, so you will get a 4:3 picture sometimes.

Elevatorguy
12-09-07, 02:15 PM
You are right. I guess that "mode" got switched somehow and I didn't remember setting it to FULL for HD stations. Tried it though and it is right. Still seems odd that NORMAL selection for a 16:9 feed doesn't automatically fill the screen. Thanks for the help with this false alarm.

chitchatjf
12-10-07, 05:14 PM
No Tivo once again. I don't think anybody is going to get it any time soon.

mgpt6
12-10-07, 06:24 PM
On Dec bill Comcast said they are dropping 2 SD Digital channels on 1/31/2008. They are Fine Living and DIY channels.This only opens up for 2 other SD Channels not enough more HD.

jonwww
12-10-07, 06:47 PM
No Tivo once again. I don't think anybody is going to get it any time soon.

Actually there was:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12450192#post12450192

It's in a very limited public launch right now though.

thetman
12-10-07, 07:04 PM
On Dec bill Comcast said they are dropping 2 SD Digital channels on 1/31/2008. They are Fine Living and DIY channels.This only opens up for 2 other SD Channels not enough more HD.
damn- I like the DIY channel-I could think of alot worse stations to dump besides that one!:(
thetman

DaveFi
12-10-07, 07:46 PM
It seems like TiVo is a definite possibility by sometime next month. Amazing how it just keeps getting pushed back, further and further and further and further...

chitchatjf
12-10-07, 09:26 PM
On Dec bill Comcast said they are dropping 2 SD Digital channels on 1/31/2008. They are Fine Living and DIY channels.This only opens up for 2 other SD Channels not enough more HD.

Didn't get any notice like that . Also there is no notice of Noggin/the N splitting with Noggin going 24/7 on 223,the N going 24/7 on 224,and Nick GnS disappearing.

I'm waiting for the notice saying ALL SD extended basic channels are going to digital only in order to make room for umpteen HD channels :)

macd23
12-10-07, 11:27 PM
Someone sell me on why I need Tivo when I have a DVR.

DaveFi
12-10-07, 11:37 PM
Someone sell me on why I need Tivo when I have a DVR.Go watch the videos in the OnDemand Help section. It shows you what features TiVo offers over the normal crappy DVR interface.

bicker1
12-11-07, 07:22 AM
On Dec bill Comcast said they are dropping 2 SD Digital channels on 1/31/2008. They are Fine Living and DIY channels.My bill shows the same thing.

I'm not sure what's wrong in Lawrence that their bills aren't showing the same thing as ours. :D

bicker1
12-11-07, 07:25 AM
Someone sell me on why I need Tivo when I have a DVR.For the same reason some folks need a Harmony remote control when each device in their home entertainment system already comes with a remote.

It really comes down to whether or not a better user-interface is worth the extra money. For some it will be; for others it won't be.

elbig
12-11-07, 07:45 AM
Tivo Questions: Does it have 30 sec skip? And what is skip to tick?

bicker1
12-11-07, 07:46 AM
Skip to tick is a feature whereby while in FF, pressing a single button will bring you to the next 15 minute mark in the program.